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Speaker 1: Welcome to Squatching Holler.

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Speaker 2: In the midst where the trees lean loop, Squatching Hollers

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gotta tell the show. Wisps creep like a creature's faint out.

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Every shadows got a secret to grow?

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Speaker 3: Monsters rise? Where the stories are told?

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Speaker 2: Squatching Holler?

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Speaker 4: Where the legends are born?

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Speaker 2: Are they?

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Speaker 3: Are they gone?

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Speaker 4: Who can say?

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Speaker 3: In the hollow of the true with just slips w.

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Speaker 5: Huge footprints faed where the creek runs than a lantern.

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Speaker 6: Sways, let the search beak in rustling leaves, But there's.

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Speaker 2: No one near? Is it the wind or the beast?

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Speaker 4: You fear?

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Speaker 7: Every goes a question.

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Speaker 8: Every russell's a clue. Squatching Holly's got.

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Speaker 5: Its eye on you monsters or the stories are torn?

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Speaker 8: Swatching How where the legends are born?

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Speaker 7: Are they?

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Speaker 4: Are they gone?

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Speaker 2: Who can see?

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Speaker 3: There?

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Speaker 8: Then and now with your Squatching Holler hosts Roger Williams,

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Amanda Stowers.

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Speaker 2: And Ashley Range.

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Speaker 1: Remember this podcast can be downloaded everywhere great podcasts are found.

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Speaker 7: And now the show.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Amanda, how you doing?

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Speaker 9: I'm good? Roger, how are you today?

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Speaker 3: Good? I saw on your Facebook y'all had a big week.

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I had a big group. Yes, Scott and Sheila Granger

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and a couple of famous people in the Bigfoot world.

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Speaker 10: Yes, Scott and Sheila Granger for those who aren't familiar.

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They run a squatch fitty excuse me, squatch fishing outfizzers

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here in North Georgia, and they had a special expedition

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where doctor Mayer and Russell Acord from the Expedition Bigfoot

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TV show came out and did a expedition with some

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of their crew and other people who signed up to

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do it. Unfortunately I wasn't one of those. I wish

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I could have done it, but life doesn't seem to

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happen that way sometimes. But yeah, they come and visited

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the museum for a little while. David of course is

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there and got to meet him and talk to him.

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I was there helping, you know, kind of keep the

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museum up and running, so I didn't get to talk

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to him as much as I would.

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Speaker 9: Like, but it was still really really cool.

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Speaker 10: You know, see people, you know, we're you know, people

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on the TV with this stuff anyway.

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Speaker 3: Right right, and you know you live in a hotspot

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in North Georgia and we all know that, and our

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tonight's guests are in the West Virginia area.

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Speaker 9: Yes, I've expanded for that.

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Speaker 3: And you know, the more we find out about some

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of these Appalachian states. You know, Danny told us backstage,

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you know, he he got into this, uh not too

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long ago. He's like other people thought these things if

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they existed. We're out west, and then you start finding

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these little neighborhoods and these haulas, and people start telling

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you stories and my goodness, it's it. There's more out

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there than we than I ever realized, you know, growing up.

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And I know the reports you take all the time.

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the map, and I can just imagine what that map

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looks like around y'all.

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Speaker 10: It's pretty populated. We people keep asking all the time,

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like is that a like where you visited from map?

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And I'm like, no, that's a reporting map.

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Speaker 3: Actually, okay, we're going back to whatever. But no, and

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we we folk we when we started doing this, you know,

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we wanted to focus mainly east of the Mississippi, but

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we don't leave out other areas. But I'm tickled to

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have these two guys. We'll just bring them in. Everybody, Uh,

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just let Danny get his hat straighten up.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 3: Uh, we've got mister there, there you go, and mister

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Danny Buckner. Thank y'all for coming on with us. Nice

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to meet you. I met not in person, I don't think, Danny,

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but we've you know, we've talked a lot messenger and stuff,

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and less he's on mute, I think, yeah, yep, yep,

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there you go, and nice to meet you, sir. I've

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heard a lot of great things about you. And it's

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funny you hear you hear different names, and you watch

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shows and and it's it's wild getting to meet people,

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you know, kind of face to face through technology and

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share stories and all. And one thing this reason I

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asked both to I asked Danny originally, and I got

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to thinking about it. He had he had mentioned you,

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and and we have people all the time say how

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do you get into this? You know? And and I

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tell them, first you got a you know, make contact,

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but then you have to earn trust. And that's kind

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of what happens when you guys. Can you tell me

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how y'all y'all got together?

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Speaker 7: Well, I'd been doing it for a few years now

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and and uh, let me see here. Well it all

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started at the uh flat Woods or the the Westerrginian

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Bigfoot Festival flat Woods in Sutton, West Virginia, and Danny

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came up and talk to me and and uh, well

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first first, no, it was uh we were in sh

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Speaker 3: Oh no, he was talking, you know, I was.

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Speaker 2: I was, that's about.

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Speaker 9: As southern as you get right there, like.

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Speaker 3: We're just gonna you don't interrupt the man when he's

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getting bacon off the bar.

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Speaker 7: And and I my wife and I and my son.

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We just we just finished and we were getting ready

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to leave, and and this fellow pops out of the

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men's bathroom and it's wife standing there, and he goes,

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oh my god, Mary, and he yells my name and

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I look over at him. And and then later at

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the festival he comes up and we're talking and he said, hey,

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y'all stop by the camp or later. And I'm like,

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you know, I normally don't like go just you know,

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strange strange people's cameras. But but Danny just I don't know,

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he just seemed like one of those folks that you know,

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he's got a good personality, he's fun to be around,

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just that type of guy. I always joke with him

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and say that Mary told me that, you know, if

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she married him for his personalities, she just couldn't forget one.

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Speaker 3: That's why he fits in perfect with our groups. Then oh, yeah,

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we're yeah, And so I noticed he sent me a

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message and and of course I try to answer people back,

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but y'all, you know, less probably knows, you know, how

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many messages as you get, you know about and you'll

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read it and you'll be busy and you forget to

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go back to it. And he started send him more,

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and we were interacting back and forth, and yeah, I

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got a feeling that he was serious and really wanting

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to get into this and asking good questions. And that's

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that's the thing. If somebody's really wanting to learn it it,

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you feel kind of obligated in a way to share,

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because you know, not just everybody wants to get into this,

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it's it's it's fun to bring people to new places

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and have them hear a scream for the first time

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and them jumping the truck and lock the doors on.

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of keys. People, so that happened to us. But Danny,

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accident one day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I found this one by by accident. And when

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I first started, when in September of twenty three, when

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I posted on Facebook, I found a Facebook a big

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for a Facebook page. I said, has anybody seen or

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heard anything in southern West Virginia. You know, I've just

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I never expected anything out of it, And all of

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a sudden, you know, eleven hits right there, you know,

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people giving me names and podcasts and YouTube to watch.

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Unlessons was one of them. West Virginia case. And I

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started watching it and everything I could find out anything

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that there was a podcaster on Facebook. I just started

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digging into it. I'm like, it's fun still. And when

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I had my experience and I got to talk to

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you know, he'll call me and he'll say, what are

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you doing. I was like, not much. He said, let's

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go out. I was like, okay, and just to you know,

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go out in the woods with somebody like this and

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to experience some of the stuff that he knows. And

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we talked for a little bit about camping and going

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out and I've just had a really good time. And

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whenever you talk about meeting people, I mean, you know,

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people become family, and our group is like a little

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family and my my other little group with the old

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line CRYPTI, guys, that's like another I'm sorry, I meant no.

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Speaker 3: You're no Jerry's are sent me a message. Yeah he did,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know whether unless Mike can answer this,

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he's been doing it longer. I don't know whether the

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people are drawn to each other because some of the

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had terrifying experiences or have seen these things like we

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all have and are just confused, or but when you

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get together and actually meet each other, it's not always

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about bigfoot y'all are right. It feels like, hey, I

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can trust this person because you know, we have information

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and y'all that's that are listening. It's not that you're

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gatekeeping or anything like that. I wouldn't ask less where

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he the exact put a pin on him out where

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you do your research, because you don't. It's you don't

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want anybody going in and messing it up, and so

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when you go in and find tracks and breaks and

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stuff like that, you know they're legit. But Danny, you know,

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is a perfect example. I was Danny Uh and I

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met Greg Howees and then he introduced me to Combo

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and you know, now there's people all over the country. Yeah,

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I always shall could have talked to him, not about Bigfoot.

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I cry laughing all the time with him. But that's

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the thing. I'm drawn to people who are thick skined

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and have a good sense of humor and and when

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you've seen something I'm rambling, But when you've seen something

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like this, you had a experience, you kind of have

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to be that way, you know, so you know in public?

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it some of that? All of that? Or what do

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I think it's a little bit of everything. I mean

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with with Danny and I and and the other folks

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that's in our in our little group. Ah, it's just

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like a family. You know. Tammy, that that's uh has

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been by my side for several years before anybody else.

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Speaker 7: Tammy and I Uh actually met in a dollar tree

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another you know, there you go again, had I had

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a shirt on one time and and it's that would

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if you have seen bigfoot or anything, you know, come

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talk to me. Yeah, she came. She came up and

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talked to me, and we became friends. And she's to me.

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I consider her, uh like a big sister, you know,

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you know, as far as that's concerned, as well as

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a colleague. And what we do, Danny, I don't, I

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don't know, Danny, and I just in the words of

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his wife, what the hell's wrong with you too? I

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love it because because we're we're just you know, it's

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it's one joke after another, and we back and forth

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just and but we we enjoy our time with each other.

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and and the rest of the folks in a group,

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they're just, like I said, just like a big family.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 7: We we all have a little bit of different opinions

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the discussions we will have about what we might find

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we all still get along and we just find that

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I mean, that's that's why I like it. You know,

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as far as connecting with other people, to me, that's

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one of the funnest parts when especially when you were

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talking about getting somebody's trust, I think that's very important.

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You know, when you go out and you look into

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these these encounters or these accounts, sometimes it's hard to

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get these people to come forward and talk to you

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and you sometimes you just need, you know, gain their trust,

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you know, and let them know, hey, you're not here

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to make fun poke poke fun at them. You're not

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here to overrule what they're trying to tell you. You know, like, hey,

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you know that's not what really happened. You had to

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have seen this a lot of times. They just need

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to be heard, And to me, that's a big part

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of it.

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Speaker 3: Well you know this, you know I told you backstage.

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Mine my first one happened in nineteen eighty five, so

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you know, I held stuff in I you know, when

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I would try to say things, sometimes I'll get laughed at,

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So you hold it in. And when you find those

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people you know that you can be yourself around and

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talk about things. It grows into other things, not just

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Bigfoot or Cryptige or whatever. And once you once you

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earn trust with somebody in one aspect of life, then

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you wholeheartedly trust them. So I think that's a big

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part of it.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who wants to talk first, but I

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know y'all have that. Oh, Danny's dying too, he's rocking off.

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Speaker 2: Kids.

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Speaker 3: If y'all see me rocking, I got a bad help.

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Speaker 10: I'm not, you know, drug and my internet's being glitchy

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this evening as well, so I'm going in and out.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm so on the back porch flag.

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Speaker 3: Did Danny, did you have something happen like close to

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your house or somewhere where you were camping.

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Speaker 2: My first experience before I met Less this was in

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July of twenty four. I was at a friends farm

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and I was camping there and that was my first outing.

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My wife was mad as I mean, she could have

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killed me that day when she found out what I

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was doing. That Saturday morning. She said you're doing, what

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you're going, where you're doing with who. I didn't know.

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I didn't know these people, and I didn't know what

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I was doing. I had my tent, my truck, my raincoat,

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and I had some gosaps on my phone. I thought

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I was cool.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know I've been there.

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Speaker 2: I went out, and then that night, about eleven o'clock

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I went sleep in. About two thirty, I woke up

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and this thing was standing there looking at me through

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my tent. And I was just laying there on my cot.

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Didn't have a sleeping bag or nothing, just have a

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raincoat on and all my winters were open. And then

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next thing I know, I'm talking to Lest, like, lest

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what's going on? Well, I never can remember.

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Speaker 7: We had been talking prior to this about what he

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was going to be doing and stuff, and he was

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asking me in some pointers and tips and stuff like that,

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and so he messaged me and he said, hey, this

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was happening, and he told me said I think I

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had a dream. And I was like, what do you mean,

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And he told me, I said, well, I kind of

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woke up, I think, and I looked outside of my tent.

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This thing is standing by the of tent, he said,

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I went, and he said, I pretty much just rolled

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over and went back to sleep. And I told him,

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I said, well, in all the years I've been doing

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this and especially doing the you know this and as

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well as paranorm investigating, that's a common thing. People will

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have these accounts, you know, I think, you know, people

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will think, oh it's traumatic, but for some reason, people

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just will go right back to sleep. So and I

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asked him, I said, are you sure you were dreaming?

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And he got to thinking about it, and he ended

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up going back and found evidence of this thing standing

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in his tent.

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Speaker 2: And that was my tent, my tenth one of the

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It's just a pop up, like a pop up canopy

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ut seven foot tall, seven a half foot tall in

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the center, and this thing was about seven and a

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half a foot tall, and it was kind of like

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cinnamon red color about the color of the doors behind

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left there, and the it had like a blackish face.

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And what was weird was it was foggy, but I

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could see so and everything seemed confusing. When I woke

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up the next morning, I was like, what what happened?

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And that that's why I reached out to the to

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the man here and.

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Speaker 3: Well, Danny, I've had that happen to me. I've took reports.

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I'm sure Amanda's taking reports and less has probably heard it,

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and people like, why didn't you do this? Why do

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you do that? I don't know it. So what people

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don't understand, especially with the first time, people say the

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first thing I noticed was this or that? No, you

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notice everything at the same time. That's one. It's mine

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scrambling and you don't know until you're there how you're

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going to react. I've acted different a few times. You know,

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people laugh at me because I'm a little skittish, but

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when you see how big some of these things are,

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you know, I'm not that fast anymore. I never was

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fast enough.

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Speaker 2: But I understand it that counter during during the day

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at like like a lot of people have, and I mean,

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it's just that sounds weird, but yeah, I would like

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to experience, have the experience during daytime to get a.

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Speaker 3: Right and and uh, have somebody with you and you

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and you're like, hey, what'd you say? I saw? And

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we saw the same thing.

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Speaker 2: So that's I had with somebody too, because you know,

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two of you and whenever we go out in the group.

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We don't. I mean, we usually, you know, stay together

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or we stay in radio contact except for me, except

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for least.

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Speaker 7: I said, I'm going down here, guys, And next thing

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I know, I'm like a half miles a mile away

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from him, Like, hey, where.

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Speaker 3: Are you are? Yeah, pond, Yeah, I know. Missy is

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like that. We were out Coobo's field is after midnight,

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and I kind of did a head count, and I'm like,

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where's Missy And you could see like one hundred and

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fifty yards on the other side in another field you

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can see a phone screen. I'm like, oh my god,

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she's not scared of anything. But y'all, y'all sound just

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like us. I like y'all.

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Speaker 7: But I talked. I talked. You know, we're talking about

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how Danny says he was confused and how people get confused.

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I kind of use the analogy. You know, your your

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brain's trying to process, so it doesn't know what to

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make sense of it. But eventually, you know, it comes

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around and you're it does a reboot and you start

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to think, and then you start to realize what was

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going on, what you might have seen, so you put

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pieces together and you know, eventually you know at some

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point you come to a conclusion. Yeah, this is what

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happened to me, as long as long as you don't

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as long as there's pieces that coming together, aren't something

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that you're trying, you know, that might have been a

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fill in, yeah, fill in yeah, yeah, and then that's

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all good.

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Speaker 2: He's the smart one of the two of us. We're

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like Laurel and Hardy, but the Laurel and Hardy is me,

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and he's the smart one of the bunch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you'd be if y'all everard see any old

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Laurel and Hardy, we're dating ourselves. Where they put him

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out on the hood when he's wiping the winter, you know,

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the winch wipers quit and they had him and.

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Speaker 2: That's me on the hood. That's you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going h this is awesome. Well it's it's

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just like Laurie. I think Laurie's and yeah, LORI lad

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right there in chat a couple of weeks ago when

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I came back, they had seen some stuff and uh

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it was it was light, strange lights inside my tent.

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There's nothing in there, and there was hardly anybody there

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at the time. And she said, man, I'm just I

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just hate. I didn't. I didn't get a picture. I said, no, Lord,

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you did the right thing. You told the other seven

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people to look up, and if you got a picture,

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we couldn't have told anything about it. It was in

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the dark. But those other seven people saw the same

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thing you did. To me, that's better than a picture.

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So so yeah, that's uh. Don't like, don't feel bad, y'all,

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because there are really experienced folks in this field that

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don't react like they think they will. And and so

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you know, I ran up on some tracks one time

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as a bunch of them. I was terrified. I was

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out there by myself, and I got made fun of

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because I didn't cast any of them. I got them

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on video. But I'm like, if i'd have had one

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hundred pounds of casting material, it wasn't gonna happen. Because

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I was trying to document it and get back to

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the truck. I wasn't standing out there because they were fresh.

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But speaking of that, I saw pictures, y'all. Did y'all

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find a trackway? Is that what you were marking off

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in one of the pictures?

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Speaker 2: Last day?

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Speaker 7: We found two of them. I what happened is we

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were we were in Sutton, West Virginia for weren the

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wife and I. We we have a friend that has

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a pretty well known haunted house down there, you know,

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not not the kind you go to get scared of,

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but you know what is considered a haunted house. Yeah,

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And every every year in October we we take them

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to a family trip there and we have dinner and

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we have you know, overnight and the kids love it.

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We do like a little little investigations with the kids

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and stuff. But Dan and I went to the lake

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because I told him, I said, well, time of the year,

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the lakes down, so we'll be able to walk the

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mud flats and find you tracks because hee what we find,

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you know, whether I didn't know what we want to find,

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you know, deer bear and I found all those and

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but I also knew that some people had found tracks

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that they were reporting to, you know, suggesting we're bigfoot tracks.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 7: And one of those there was a couple of them

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that a local uh taxidermists had found. So we went

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to the location. He we actually stopped at his shop.

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We talked to him. I've talked to him before, and

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he told us about what he's experienced there with the

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with the the I guess vocals the houses that he

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called or he said, well, more like a trumpeting, he said.

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I almost like I believe he had described it like

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an elk and an elephant or something like that, wasn't it, Danny.

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Speaker 2: I've heard that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard that. I've heard that description before. And

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the thing is lest they don't know, but they always

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put big animals, big mammals together. They combine it, you know.

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So that's ling right there. I must show some pictures

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while you're telling the story, if you don't mind.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's the that's the first one. That's the

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first trackway we found. We actually went under the mudflat

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and I'm walking down I said hey, Danny, and Danny's

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off to my left at the time, and I said, hey, Danny,

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I found tracks. I found a trackway and we went

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down to and he come over and we're looking and

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there was a set that were larger and a smaller set,

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and that's one of the small ones there. The larger

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set was they were walking parallel with each other, almost

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like a you know, mama walking her her kid or

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something her you know, little kid. I thought they were interesting.

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I still to this day, don't know if I would

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say they're bigfoot, but there was pretty interest in the

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time of the year we found them. You see the

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whole trackway right there.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 7: But the interesting thing was when we were leaving, there

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was a guy went by. He said, hey, what are

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you all folks doing? And he's and we were like,

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you know, we're just looking at it, you know, here

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looking at tracks, just you know, animal tracks. And we

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went on up the road and his buddy that was

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following him had stopped before we had left up the road,

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and we we he stopped us. He said, what are

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y'all doing back here? And I said, we said, we're

474
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,079
just looking for animal tracks. Yeah, he goes, well, he said,

475
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,400
I just want to let you know, he said, I

476
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,799
found bigfoot tracks last year, about this time of year,

477
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,720
he said, on down at Wolf Creek. Well, Danny and

478
00:26:30,759 --> 00:26:32,599
I had already been to Wolf Creek that day and I.

479
00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 2: Looked at each other and grinned and okay.

480
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,599
Speaker 7: And he's like, he said, it was pretty interesting. We're like, yeah,

481
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,079
he said, well, there was a little skiff of snow

482
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,640
on the ground. He said, it was almost like a

483
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,200
mama walking her little baby. He said, yeah, he said,

484
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,559
I've seen a set of tracks and a bigger set

485
00:26:48,599 --> 00:26:50,920
and then a smaller set going out, you know, out

486
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,079
this mud flat and around the bend, and I it's

487
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,880
a place that I go all the time, but I haven't,

488
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,400
I haven't had never found anything. But it was pretty

489
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,839
interesting that, you know, he described exactly what we found.

490
00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:05,680
You know, it hadn't seen what we were doing. Uh,

491
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,240
like I said, and I told Danis, I don't really know.

492
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,000
You know, they look like they could be you know,

493
00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:14,039
they do to have a human shape, but the time

494
00:27:14,079 --> 00:27:16,799
of year and stuff, you know, you know who knows.

495
00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:19,640
So we cast them. We pulled what to the big ones,

496
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,680
to the small ones.

497
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:23,839
Speaker 2: Two little ones and two big ones, and picture that

498
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,599
where I was pooring. You could see our footprints, our

499
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,279
boot tracks right there through the little round dots. That's

500
00:27:31,319 --> 00:27:31,640
our bit.

501
00:27:32,079 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: So you're not sinking up at all.

502
00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:37,559
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, definitely not seeking anything like the other ones.

503
00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: For sure, see them over here. Yeah.

504
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,079
Speaker 7: But I also, you know, I usually using my skeptical

505
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,200
side a little bit, I can also explain that possibly

506
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,359
a little bit. Uh the tracks when we went back,

507
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,559
well it was two weeks, two weeks with Ron, which.

508
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,839
Speaker 2: Was let's see, two weeks later we went back.

509
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean but when we went back that location

510
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,720
there with Ron, which is how long after that, when

511
00:28:00,759 --> 00:28:05,400
we so months later, several months later, you could still

512
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,799
see where we had poured the cast and pulled them.

513
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 3: M hm.

514
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,559
Speaker 7: So you know, the explanation I come up with, you know,

515
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,559
just to give the Devil's advocate here is the tracks

516
00:28:16,599 --> 00:28:19,720
that we found. The reason they're deeper is because that's

517
00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:23,279
right when right after the water had receded, So the

518
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,680
mud was a lot softer. So something with a even

519
00:28:26,759 --> 00:28:29,799
with a less more of a lighter weight, you know,

520
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,759
less mass, would would leave tracks probably deeper than what

521
00:28:32,759 --> 00:28:36,160
we did. So so again I just want to document

522
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,880
that with Danny and you know, you know, make sure

523
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,599
you look at stuff like that. But then we went

524
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,000
back two weeks later, you know, in November, actually took

525
00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:49,440
two kayaks and paddled, oh three quarters a mile to

526
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,240
a mile up the lake and come upon come upon

527
00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:55,000
another mudflat. There's several mudflashs, but this one was easy

528
00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:56,720
to get to. Where the banks weren't very high. We

529
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,039
would able, you know, just nose up on them and

530
00:28:59,039 --> 00:28:59,599
get out.

531
00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:03,519
Speaker 2: Track that you showed a picture of that that one

532
00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:05,000
we poured that day.

533
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:10,079
Speaker 7: Yeah, the one with the sticks. Yeah, yeah, that that

534
00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:10,519
one there.

535
00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:11,319
Speaker 3: Okay.

536
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,839
Speaker 7: Uh, we got out of the boat. Danny's looking up

537
00:29:13,839 --> 00:29:16,319
in the woods and walking along and I'm walking straight

538
00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:18,920
ahead and ss hey, Danny, I found another trackway and

539
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,599
they came we. I couldn't exactly tell which way they

540
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,000
come from. They either looked like they come from the

541
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,240
water and went towards the woods or come from the

542
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,720
woods and went to the water and made it like

543
00:29:28,759 --> 00:29:33,559
a loop. And you know, but there was I think

544
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:39,400
Danny counted eighty some eighty some tracks but there. But

545
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:44,319
this these were not the mom and child tracks. This

546
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,079
was just a little bit bigger and they were a

547
00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:53,240
single trackway. There was only one how far? Uh somewhere

548
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,519
around four foot? Yeah.

549
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can't do that. You have to be you

550
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,319
have to be running at a full you know. So

551
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:06,920
I didn't get the load. The one with the measuring tape.

552
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,960
How how big was the biggest one?

553
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 7: Uh? The two where we found the two trackways. The

554
00:30:13,759 --> 00:30:16,279
biggest ones were like thirteen inches and the small ones

555
00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:16,920
like eight and a half.

556
00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 3: Okay, and y'all, if you're listening, whether it's on Spotify,

557
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:28,160
later or whatever. Listen to what they're saying. The best

558
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,880
time if you have lakes around you, and we have

559
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,079
them around here and in Alabama, when the water's down

560
00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:39,319
in the winter, it's the best time to find tracks

561
00:30:39,359 --> 00:30:41,359
because if there are big foot in the area or

562
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,359
anything raccoons, they have to walk through that mud to

563
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,319
get to the water to get whatever they're getting a

564
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:51,759
drink or food. So I've stumbled by accident on that.

565
00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:52,839
That's when I found those.

566
00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:55,799
Speaker 10: Soft mud makes really goodtunities.

567
00:30:56,359 --> 00:30:58,319
Speaker 9: Oh here you I got the picture.

568
00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: Roger's and that's the big ones.

569
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 7: Yeah.

570
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,599
Speaker 3: And let me ask you, so, did the did the

571
00:31:08,599 --> 00:31:11,319
little ones stay beside the big tracks or did it ever?

572
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:15,119
Speaker 7: Like Chris, they stayed. They stayed right along beside him.

573
00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 2: It was like they were holding hands, you know, kid,

574
00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:22,599
a little little child will hold hands. That they were.

575
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,039
They were close, real close.

576
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 3: That's and that's pretty.

577
00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: Is There's a guy somewhere here in the neighboring couple

578
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:38,559
counties from here that got pictures of two in this area.

579
00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:41,079
But I can't find the guy.

580
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 3: And that picture right there, I don't see an art.

581
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 7: So you know that, you know, if you had seen

582
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,759
the small ones not necessarily the end step arts, but

583
00:31:54,119 --> 00:31:57,319
or the end step. But if you held them side

584
00:31:57,319 --> 00:32:02,079
by like this way, like like length like horzonally, you

585
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:06,079
could actually see even though the small ones are even more. Yeah,

586
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,519
the hill part was inch and half thick, the ball

587
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,240
was an inch and a half thick, and the middle

588
00:32:11,319 --> 00:32:12,640
was like three quarters of an It's like.

589
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 9: That foot went like this, that nice curve.

590
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, those is that way and I can't remember which

591
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:20,559
one it is.

592
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,359
Speaker 3: That that's that's that's impressive. I mean, and y'all, I

593
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:30,599
don't care how seasoned you are. Tracks are so rare.

594
00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:34,119
I'm sure you were giddy when you're like, hey, man,

595
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:35,319
get over here, check this.

596
00:32:36,359 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: Hey, I found a track away and I was like,

597
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:43,000
and I was, I was excited as I'll get out.

598
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,759
And that's the first time i'd ever, you know, got

599
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:47,680
to pour anything. And he was like, he's like, okay,

600
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,200
I'm gonna show you how to do this, and I'm like,

601
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,039
and how to do it? And and then we covered

602
00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:54,279
them up and I.

603
00:32:54,319 --> 00:32:55,359
Speaker 7: Left him every night and so.

604
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: And then that one that we found when we were kayaking.

605
00:32:59,119 --> 00:33:03,839
The wind was blowing so hard that day that that's

606
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,480
that one set up in like an hour and it's

607
00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:08,480
just regular plaster.

608
00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, dried it out quick, and it's drying the

609
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,160
ground out too. Yeah, that's what you know. So that's

610
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,799
what I always looked for.

611
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: I had those flags. I had. I carry about ten

612
00:33:20,279 --> 00:33:21,400
or twelve flags with men.

613
00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:22,519
Speaker 3: That's a good idea.

614
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one I lost count about forty or fifty.

615
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,759
There were so many between the deer tracks and there

616
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:33,200
was some turkey tracks and then uh that other one

617
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,920
we found a bear track since we got out of

618
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,559
the kayaks. And that's what I was looking for. I mean,

619
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,279
I wanted to make sure I didn't see no uh

620
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,400
uh black four legged critter you know, coming out. Oh yeah.

621
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 3: I had somebody ask me about the area today actually,

622
00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:54,240
and and they're coming from another state, and I said, listen,

623
00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:58,440
there's other things out there. We've seen this, this, this, this,

624
00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:01,799
and this, and they all will eat you, so just

625
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,200
be careful. And that's the that's my that's my worst

626
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,839
fear of somebody going. I don't recommend anything, but if

627
00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:10,320
they ask me, I'll kind of, you know, tell them

628
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,400
an area, but I won't give locations usually. Yeah, but

629
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,559
so it looks like you'll go out in all kind

630
00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:18,559
of weather, which you know, snow is a good a

631
00:34:18,559 --> 00:34:21,960
good uh good time to find tracks.

632
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 7: Also, yeah, that that that day there was a little

633
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,079
Oh that was a crazy day right there.

634
00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 2: Now that started out having a lot about almost a

635
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,000
foot of snow and ended up with like three inches.

636
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 7: Well we again, that's where we're talking about. We started

637
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,039
as a group. There was three of us there that day.

638
00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:46,559
There was Danny, myself and a friend of ours West

639
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,039
and we were all and we decided going this hike.

640
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,679
So we're we're going back towards the backwaters of this

641
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,400
lake again because of them. You know, the water's down,

642
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,760
so we're gonna go look, uh decent snowfall. So we're

643
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,639
looking for tracks for that. Well, Danny and West we

644
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,639
come to this crossroads and I say, hey, you guys

645
00:35:06,679 --> 00:35:08,599
go that way, they could take you up. I'm going

646
00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:12,199
to go down. Well I started, I went down. I

647
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,519
get to the bottom. We're on the radio and I say, hey,

648
00:35:14,519 --> 00:35:15,840
where you all at? We're all at and they're like,

649
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,519
we're right here. And I'm like, okay, I'm gonna head

650
00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:21,239
straight up the mountain to come to you. Come towards you. Well,

651
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,360
we had about, like you said, about a foot of

652
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,000
snow and parts of it. Well, that foot of snow

653
00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:29,840
had covered over brier patches that were three and four

654
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:30,599
foot thick or.

655
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:32,679
Speaker 2: So.

656
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 7: I'm walking and I'm falling. I fall through it like

657
00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:37,880
several times, trying to get up to them.

658
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: By the time I got we're not far apart. We're

659
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:41,920
not very far apart.

660
00:35:42,199 --> 00:35:43,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can't get to them.

661
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: Well, I got.

662
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,639
Speaker 7: I finally got to them. I finally got there. By

663
00:35:47,639 --> 00:35:49,679
the time I got there, you swear to God, mountain

664
00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:50,559
lion had tore me up.

665
00:35:50,639 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm picturing it.

666
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 10: In my.

667
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: About. We're standing there waiting on him, you know, and

668
00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:01,000
we we're waiting for come up over the hill in

669
00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:04,440
front of us, and I hear something. Look, and here

670
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,079
comes west down the road.

671
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:10,199
Speaker 7: I said, the way I could get to you, I

672
00:36:10,199 --> 00:36:11,159
couldn't get through it.

673
00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: I made it.

674
00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 7: I made it, went up the hill and come around

675
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,079
another another another road. But we ended up getting all

676
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:20,360
the way back to the back backwaters where we wanted.

677
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:22,840
As you can see in that picture. Uh, we didn't

678
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,519
really find anything. We found it, yo, A couple of

679
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:30,159
tree things, which I'm not great. I'm not real big

680
00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:34,960
on the tree breaks and stuff. We found that a

681
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,280
couple of interesting things, but all said and done, we'd

682
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,079
put in like somewhere between six and eight miles in

683
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,119
a foot and a half of snow and it was just,

684
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,519
I don't know, it was rough. It had a rough

685
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:49,159
day and we had a we had a blast though.

686
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 3: That's dedication, medication and it makes for a good story.

687
00:36:54,480 --> 00:37:00,360
I mean, yeah, and y'all, there's so like this here.

688
00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:05,519
I've seen things like this on Facebook and all, let

689
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:07,679
me leave it up here a second. And when I

690
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:13,280
first started getting into this, I'm like, well, it's possible.

691
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,760
So what I joined a primitive camping page on Facebook

692
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,480
just to watch what they did. Some of that that

693
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,679
that if they have a tarp folded up with them,

694
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,280
they might take something like that.

695
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:25,559
Speaker 2: You know.

696
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying it is or it's not, but

697
00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:31,920
if you're investigating, you have to look at all angles

698
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:37,199
so and you so you can rule out things like

699
00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:39,440
like a lot of people they'll they'll see the little

700
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,760
yeah in the hut looking things and that. You know,

701
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,039
we had an X up here on some land, uh

702
00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:49,000
after we had a rock thrown at us the year

703
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:52,880
before and I come around the corner and there's nobody there,

704
00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:57,000
it's so far back nobody. It's rough, it's it's botock

705
00:37:57,119 --> 00:37:59,800
thorns and it's grown up. You have to be careful.

706
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:02,280
And I come around the edge of that field and

707
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,719
there's a big entrance. It's a it's a game trail,

708
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,440
but it's just happened to be no trees there for

709
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:12,079
like seven or eight feet wide. There was the biggest

710
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,079
x made out of dead cedars, and I was like,

711
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,280
no way, no way. But then I went over there

712
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,880
and the root balls one of the one of the

713
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,760
trees had grown there and had been pushed over to

714
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,400
limb the other one's rootball. It didn't come from there,

715
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:33,559
So something or somebody, and there's nobody around here that

716
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:35,320
even leaves in big floot, right.

717
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 2: So the root balls on the tree, mm hmm. You

718
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,840
know if something is pulled up out of the ground,

719
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,599
you know, and it's upside down and the roots up here,

720
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,840
then you know it was moved, something done that.

721
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, So go ahead if you go.

722
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,039
Speaker 7: Back to that picture. That's my friend Tammy. The reason

723
00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:58,039
we documented that picture. Like I tell everybody, when you

724
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:01,719
find stuff like this, the document it, you know, take

725
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,360
pictures of it compared to other stuff. Do I believe

726
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,280
this was bigfoot, not necessarily, but the one thing that

727
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:12,239
really caught my eye it is that is that cross beam, yes,

728
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,280
floating the floating bean. That's why we documented this one.

729
00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:18,039
I also it was in an area that I had

730
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:22,920
been by myself and had some experiences, uh, which was

731
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,480
one of the experiences you talk about in X. I

732
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:29,280
had went in this area because there have been people

733
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,360
tell me they have heard vocals there, they have found

734
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,239
footprints there. I've got some pictures of prints in the

735
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,079
mud in certain areas. So I stayed there one night

736
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,039
and then the next one day, and I found too

737
00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:44,599
partial what I call partial prints. I can't say they're

738
00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:50,119
great prints. They were in that real decaying soft you know, substrate,

739
00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:54,199
you know, the or the the leafy black stuff, you

740
00:39:54,199 --> 00:39:55,000
know what I mean, or how we.

741
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,039
Speaker 3: Want to say it right.

742
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,639
Speaker 7: Uh. The only reason I I cast him because there's

743
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:03,559
really no no toe marks or you know, any case

744
00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:07,239
of toes. The hill was very wide, you know, not

745
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,519
something the areas, it's fairly wide hill. They weren't super long. Again,

746
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:13,679
because there wasn't any toes, you couldn't see the toes.

747
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:19,000
So I casted those two and went while they they cured,

748
00:40:19,039 --> 00:40:21,079
I went on up into the valley. I'd follow this

749
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:24,039
creek way up into the valley and I go up

750
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:27,559
so far and I would cut off a little bit

751
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,960
come back down, and that's how I did my grid

752
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,840
pattern in this area. So I was doing that, that that,

753
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,679
doing this that day, and I found a couple of

754
00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:37,039
those areas that had the same substrate and I'm looking

755
00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:40,920
at it trying to find something. Never found anything. But

756
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,079
as I'm standing at the second one, I found, uh,

757
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,960
it's like a flat near creek. And then you have

758
00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:48,079
like this bank that's got rocks and there's a lot

759
00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:51,159
of a lot of a lot of pine and and stuff.

760
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,559
And it goes up and there's rocks on the top,

761
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,440
but there's a bunch of Laurel bushes. I hear something

762
00:40:57,519 --> 00:41:00,599
moving in the Laurel bushes, so I turned, thinking, you know,

763
00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:02,840
I'm gonna I'm gonna see a deer up there, maybe

764
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,960
a bear. But when I turned, whatever was there took

765
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,639
off in the opposite direction just ran, I mean, just

766
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,920
as as fast as it can run it. So I'm like, okay,

767
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,360
that's pretty cool. So I definitely documented like that, and

768
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,039
I was like, I want to go back here again.

769
00:41:18,559 --> 00:41:22,199
So I went back, pulled the tracks left for that weekend,

770
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,119
decided I was going to go back for the next weekend,

771
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,880
and where the tracks were at, I was going to

772
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,719
the cree. I went to the creek and had gotten

773
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,199
water in my pan and was stipping, you know, mixing

774
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,639
the plaster, and then when I was done and mints

775
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,800
the pan out in the same area. And when I

776
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,719
got back the next weekend where I was doing that,

777
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,119
there was two trees that had been completely stripped of

778
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:46,800
their branches. You know, there's tall you know, earlings or

779
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,480
more than eurine. Not earlings, but saplings, but they were

780
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,079
the base of them are probably about I don't know

781
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,559
the size of one of those. You know, there's little

782
00:41:55,559 --> 00:41:58,280
mini coke cans, you know, the small type cans. They

783
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,719
were started about that size and when up and petered

784
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:07,679
out at probably fifteen feet tall to an air They

785
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:10,000
had been put in in an x between the two

786
00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:13,679
trees where I was getting the water, and I I

787
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:16,599
thought that was really cool. So I was like, man,

788
00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:18,199
I need to go back. So I've been going back

789
00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:20,679
to that place quite a bit over the past few years.

790
00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:23,800
I've taken Danny in the group Bear and we've we've

791
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:28,559
had some other stuff happen. Uh, other little tracks. We

792
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:34,119
found it possibly at Prince again we found some different

793
00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:37,159
little I don't know if you want to call structures,

794
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:39,480
but you know, just different little things that my venture.

795
00:42:40,119 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 2: Uh.

796
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,199
Speaker 3: And then let's less is being careful, y'all go ahead.

797
00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:48,280
It's okay, but it but look, I get it less

798
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,480
unless unless I see the bigfoot. Make it right, right,

799
00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:54,119
I get I get where you're coming from.

800
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,679
Speaker 7: But then, uh, we were all daring our hike. Well,

801
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,079
this was on the second, the second camp out that

802
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:05,679
we were there. We went back, we were on our hike,

803
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,960
and it was they David had went on his way

804
00:43:11,079 --> 00:43:14,239
one way, Brody and Owen had went on their way

805
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,039
a different way. Chris, Dandy and Tammy were kind of together.

806
00:43:18,119 --> 00:43:20,480
And again I'm off on my own. I cut off

807
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:23,880
the path and went I'm down at the because I

808
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,639
had I heard, I knew there was beaver ponds, you know,

809
00:43:26,679 --> 00:43:28,599
old beaver ponds. I was like, well, there's beaver ponds,

810
00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:30,320
there's mud. I want to get down here. So I

811
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,920
went down to them. But eventually we all come back

812
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,199
together and we're walking down to the logging road and

813
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,320
I out of the corner of my eye, I see something

814
00:43:39,679 --> 00:43:44,840
go between trees, like moving between trees. And I told him,

815
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,239
I said, I said, you guys see that, And they're

816
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,840
like and Danny's like, no, I didn't see see anything.

817
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,480
Tammy's like, no, I didn'tee anything. So I started walking

818
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:54,679
down to where it was at where I said, where

819
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,559
whatever it was moved. And I get down there.

820
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,599
Speaker 2: Huh, I'm forty feet off road something like that.

821
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:05,119
Speaker 12: Was It was probably forty yards often. I get down

822
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:09,679
to where where it was at and we I find

823
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,360
I don't know, sticks about a foot half to two

824
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,599
feet tall, stuck in the ground, spaced about two to

825
00:44:16,639 --> 00:44:17,960
three feet apart, all in a row.

826
00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 7: So I I yeah. So I yell up at him

827
00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:25,000
or on the radio, and they come down A fair

828
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,559
of youe West Virginia. You just right over the hill

829
00:44:26,559 --> 00:44:30,639
from me. I saw you on the radio. Danny comes down,

830
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,000
Chris comes down, taming him stay up on the road

831
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,639
to keep tracks. So we did just like I guess,

832
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:37,519
the search and rescue grid type thing, you know, so

833
00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:40,159
far apart, we walked see what we can find. All

834
00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:42,239
of a sudden, I here Danny say, hey, Chris, did

835
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,679
you is that you and Chris. No, I'm what do

836
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,119
you mean? He said? Where are you at? He's in

837
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,039
Chris tells him Danny seemed the same thing in front

838
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:51,599
of him, or was it was in front of her?

839
00:44:51,639 --> 00:44:52,079
To your right?

840
00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:54,199
Speaker 2: It was? It was to my right up the hill,

841
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,000
closer to the road.

842
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 10: And.

843
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,039
Speaker 2: It was just like like that between two trees, and

844
00:45:03,079 --> 00:45:05,800
these trees were probably about five or six feet apart.

845
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,840
It was a black blur. And I asked everybody where

846
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,280
they were at, and Brody and Owen were up on

847
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,880
the road, and I said, where y'all at? And they

848
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,079
all of a sudden they walked by where I had

849
00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:21,719
seen that, and you could see the color of their shirts.

850
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:26,719
They were wearing jeans. I was like, and I was confused,

851
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,519
and I yelled at him and he was like below me,

852
00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:31,760
Less was below me, and then Chris was above me,

853
00:45:32,639 --> 00:45:37,079
and then the road and within how how many minutes

854
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,920
was that that we saw? That I saw that?

855
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,559
Speaker 7: I don't know from time when I seen had my

856
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,440
whatever I seen to you, probably five or six minutes

857
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:47,960
at the most.

858
00:45:48,199 --> 00:45:50,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was weird. It was the weirdest thing.

859
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,039
I mean, it's just just a just a black blur.

860
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:55,079
Speaker 7: Yeah.

861
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: So let me let me ask this. I might have

862
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,599
missed it so less when you saw what JU saw

863
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:05,760
and then Danny, same thing. Was it elevated position from you?

864
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 7: No, it was downhill, down down hill my siding or

865
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,800
my from my vantage point sighting, I get, whatever you

866
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,960
wanna call. It was downhill. Once we started doing our

867
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,400
grid pattern, it would have been slightly uphill for Danny,

868
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:27,760
but more like more up to the to the right.

869
00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:30,800
Like if we were just say we were walking, uh

870
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,760
from south to north, so and I would have seen

871
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,440
what I seen in the west when Danny we started

872
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,599
doing a good pattern, Danny would probably seen something like

873
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,679
toward the northeast. So it had moved in a whole

874
00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:48,800
different direction without us, without us seeing.

875
00:46:48,519 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 2: It out anybody. And we were walking around in the

876
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,760
woods like I mean, you know, checking things out. And

877
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,239
when Left told me or told us about the sticks,

878
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,039
he said, come here. I went. I went down and

879
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,639
there they were. I mean, it was just in a row.

880
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,079
And I got pictures of it. I didn't send him

881
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:11,280
because you can't tell. And they was, what about four

882
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,199
foot party is?

883
00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 7: Yeah? Three to four foot apart?

884
00:47:14,159 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they were all.

885
00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:20,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, by eighteen inch two foot tal that's wild. Yeah.

886
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,559
So again we we decided, hey, this is going to

887
00:47:24,559 --> 00:47:26,280
be a place we started to come back to, you know,

888
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,679
because I'd already been there multiple times. I like, I

889
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,480
go a good bit by myself. So I go there

890
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,199
a lot, and like I said, do this grid search

891
00:47:34,199 --> 00:47:37,800
and everything or like a So Danny and I called

892
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,559
Danny said, hey, you want to go camping? You know?

893
00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:41,559
He said where. I said, Let's go to the area,

894
00:47:41,559 --> 00:47:45,360
you know. He said yeah, So and Danny's like, where

895
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,119
we're going to camp? I said, we're going to backpack in.

896
00:47:47,199 --> 00:47:50,480
And Danny's like, I've never backpack into nowhere in camp before.

897
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 2: And I was a boy scout so and my son

898
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,320
was a boy scout and I hain't never backpacked anywhere.

899
00:47:57,639 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 3: Wow.

900
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,599
Speaker 2: And he goes, let's go, and I say, man, let's

901
00:48:00,639 --> 00:48:00,960
do it.

902
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,039
Speaker 7: He shows he shows up. He shows up and he

903
00:48:05,079 --> 00:48:11,079
pulls his pack out and I say, that's pretty big, Danny,

904
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,480
so he's got yeah, he's got her on. We're back

905
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:17,519
going back through there, and we're walking through you know that.

906
00:48:18,199 --> 00:48:20,599
I can't remember what months it was it was.

907
00:48:21,159 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 2: I didn't forgot it.

908
00:48:23,679 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, it wasn't. It should have been warm but it's

909
00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:30,360
actually nice. Yeah, And we're walking through and we're walking

910
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,800
through ferns about about waste deep nothing.

911
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:35,519
Speaker 2: But it's beautiful. It's it's just like a big field.

912
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:38,239
It's like we're going through this pine ticket and all

913
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,159
of a sudden it opens up. It's like a field

914
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,679
almost of ferns and they're waist high and you're just

915
00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:47,960
trying to walk through it. And left turners are like,

916
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,480
I hope we don't see any snakes.

917
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:57,159
Speaker 9: Jurassic Park with the raptors the rest.

918
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,159
Speaker 2: That's what it looks like.

919
00:48:59,159 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 7: I told him before we got there, you know what

920
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,840
I told everybody before when we went you know, hiking

921
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,519
and camping there or hiking there. You know, it's an

922
00:49:07,519 --> 00:49:11,639
area where there's supposedly a lot of rattlesnakes and stuff.

923
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,320
So we're walking through this field and I'm like bebopping along.

924
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,159
Danny's and behind me and I step on something slip,

925
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,880
you know, And I looked back at him. I said, Danny,

926
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,719
I sure hope to god that was a stick I

927
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:25,320
just stepped on.

928
00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 2: And I'm like, uh, yeah, I hope it was a stick.

929
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 7: To So we get to we get yeah, we get

930
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,159
to our Yeah, I was hoping it was stick. I

931
00:49:38,199 --> 00:49:41,760
really was. We get to our We get to our site.

932
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,639
We found a camp ray Long Creek set up camp.

933
00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:48,280
Danny's got his little trekking polltent. I'm in a hammock

934
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,480
with a tart and stuff, and we're, you know, having

935
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:57,119
a good time. We kind of snooze through today, yeah,

936
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,920
you know, kind of. I look over. Danny's like, lean

937
00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:02,960
back in my chair, passed out, and he's like, but

938
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,400
you know, got during the gout the end of the nighttime,

939
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,599
and I hear. I'm laying in my hammock and I

940
00:50:10,599 --> 00:50:12,800
I could hear this chainsaw just going nuts over in

941
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:13,119
the tent.

942
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,159
Speaker 3: Sound like a track to pull over.

943
00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 13: So I'm laying there and I'm listening, and I'm listening

944
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:28,840
to cayves start to go crazy.

945
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 7: And then behind my hammock on the other side of

946
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:38,159
my tarp, I hear I'm thinking, you know, maybe it's

947
00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:42,000
a bear. I don't know. I'm still listening. And then

948
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,840
the creek. There was a law great there by the creek.

949
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,960
I didn't hear anything go into creek. But you know

950
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,239
how you you hear the water fall over something, it

951
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,639
has that sound and if it's doesn't change, or if

952
00:50:54,679 --> 00:50:57,920
something doesn't move in there, that water sound just doesn't change. Well,

953
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,360
the water changed, the sound changed, can completely something moved

954
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,960
in that water. So immediately I grabbed my radio because

955
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,639
I got it with me, and I'm like, Danny, Danny, nothing.

956
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 9: Danny.

957
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 7: Thirty five to forty minutes later, that's trying to get

958
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,440
him up, to get him moving, I had to literally

959
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,239
scream Dandy. He's like, what you know? I said, man,

960
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,000
I think there's something out here. So he comes scooting

961
00:51:28,039 --> 00:51:30,559
out of his tent and I'm like, you have your

962
00:51:30,599 --> 00:51:33,360
boots you sleep with your boots on. He's like yeah,

963
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,440
And I jump out of my hammock. I just got

964
00:51:35,519 --> 00:51:39,400
my socks on and everything. And so we're we're looking around.

965
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,880
We got thermals out and everything. We didn't find anything.

966
00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:45,599
So I'm walking around. Danny's got his thermal and I'm

967
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:47,360
over in this one area looking to see if I

968
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,039
can see anything with my night visiting a thermal.

969
00:51:49,039 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 3: One.

970
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 7: All of a sudden, here I'm thinking something is you know,

971
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:55,800
he has found something. You know, I'm thinking he, you know,

972
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:00,519
with the enthusiasm he has, he has found something. He's

973
00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:04,079
seeing something. He's like less less, I'm like, what, man,

974
00:52:04,159 --> 00:52:05,719
He said, are you paying?

975
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:17,039
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, but somebody is.

976
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:17,599
Speaker 9: Somebody or something.

977
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: I make a pattern around, you know, a walk around

978
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,000
our camp and I've got my thermal, and all of

979
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,559
a sudden, I see this hot image, you know, ahead

980
00:52:26,599 --> 00:52:29,239
of me. And I didn't realize where I was the

981
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,079
way I was standing, it was the way he was standing.

982
00:52:33,159 --> 00:52:35,000
I was like, what are you doing? Are you paying?

983
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:40,119
Speaker 3: He said, no, So did you did you see something

984
00:52:40,159 --> 00:52:40,840
standing up?

985
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:48,559
Speaker 7: No? Okay he did, but that would.

986
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 3: Be that would be scary too, Like you don't want

987
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,000
to interrupt a booger while they're you know, relieving himself.

988
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, we didn't have any experience or we didn't see anything.

989
00:52:57,599 --> 00:53:01,800
But the next day we got up and and I'm like, Danny,

990
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,719
I said, did you see that? And he's like what?

991
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 3: I was like?

992
00:53:05,079 --> 00:53:08,199
Speaker 7: Down there, you know, right on that little flat by

993
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,519
the creek where we were getting water yesterday because it

994
00:53:11,559 --> 00:53:12,440
was a good place to get water.

995
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 2: We got water. It was perfect where you could kind

996
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:17,880
of scrutch down and pull water out.

997
00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:23,679
Speaker 7: And I see this triangle rock about two inches thick

998
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,400
and about three maybe two and a half three inches tall,

999
00:53:27,039 --> 00:53:30,800
standing on its edge, pointing straight up and it wasn't

1000
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,440
there the day before because we were getting water from there.

1001
00:53:34,199 --> 00:53:35,440
So we go down and look at it, and you

1002
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,760
could literally see where this rock had been pulled out

1003
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,880
of the moss, because it had the moss on top

1004
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,800
of it on the one side of the rock. The

1005
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,199
bottom side was completely bare with a little bit of

1006
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,480
with dirt and mud on the floor. It been pulled

1007
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,239
out of the ground and had been stood up. And

1008
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,679
right there where we were getting water, and this isn't

1009
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,000
this isn't it within half a mile where I had

1010
00:53:57,039 --> 00:53:59,360
been where the X was put between the two trees.

1011
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,679
Speaker 2: And what was funny too, When I was walking around

1012
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:08,199
that night, I walked into this tree that I thought

1013
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,239
was a tree. And the next morning I'm standing there

1014
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,679
and I turned around and right behind where Lissa had

1015
00:54:12,679 --> 00:54:14,039
his tent was an X.

1016
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh, there was a yeah. I forgot about that.

1017
00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:20,599
There where I heard had heard the behind my tarp

1018
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,280
there was there There was another X between two little trees.

1019
00:54:24,519 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 2: It was It was weird how all this happened. And

1020
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,800
but then again, I could sleep through a tornado.

1021
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:37,679
Speaker 3: Need a shot collar less.

1022
00:54:38,199 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 7: I don't blame I mean the hours he was working

1023
00:54:41,039 --> 00:54:43,280
at that time I wouldn't. I don't blame for going

1024
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:44,760
to sleep, be honest with you.

1025
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 2: And it, but it was. And I drove a lot

1026
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,679
longer than he did because from where I lived up

1027
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:56,880
there is about four hours. And what funny is we

1028
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,079
were supposed to the meeting spought that we were supposed

1029
00:54:59,079 --> 00:55:02,360
to meet that morning. We decided we'd meet at this

1030
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:07,599
lake about ten o'clock and twelve o'clock that night. I

1031
00:55:07,639 --> 00:55:10,719
woke up and I didn't realize what time it was,

1032
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,079
and I thought it was earlier in the morning, and

1033
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:16,599
I was like, well, you know, I thought it was

1034
00:55:16,639 --> 00:55:18,679
two or three o'clock. And I think, you know, I'll

1035
00:55:18,679 --> 00:55:23,519
just go ahead and get ready. I'll leave. I'm twenty

1036
00:55:23,559 --> 00:55:25,480
miles from the house and I look at the clock

1037
00:55:25,519 --> 00:55:28,800
and I'm like, wait a minute, I'm four and a

1038
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,559
half hours before I'm supposed to wake up.

1039
00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:37,119
Speaker 7: We were supposed to meet at ten, so I'm like

1040
00:55:37,159 --> 00:55:38,920
two and a half hours away. So I get up

1041
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,840
seven o'clock and I call no, no answer, no answer

1042
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,639
to dance man. I hope he's all right. Oh he

1043
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,239
wakes up, he'll meet me there. All the way up,

1044
00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:50,239
I call no answer. The whole two and a half hours.

1045
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,679
I'm driving wherever I had phone service. I'm calling Danny

1046
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,920
and I'm thinking, either he overslept, he can't make it.

1047
00:55:57,639 --> 00:55:59,719
I'm hoping something didn't go wrong, or I said, that's

1048
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,239
simpletle bastard drove all night and he's up or sitting.

1049
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 3: He said, waiting on you.

1050
00:56:05,119 --> 00:56:05,559
Speaker 10: I did.

1051
00:56:06,159 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: I left home and got to this there. I can't

1052
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,559
remember the name of this little town, and there was

1053
00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:17,159
a post office, and I realized I was like, well,

1054
00:56:17,559 --> 00:56:19,440
I needed to get gas. And I was right down

1055
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,320
the street from this little gas station. And there was

1056
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,519
a little little country, little country town, and the gas

1057
00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:31,559
station was kind of like Floyd's gas station from Maybury.

1058
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,679
And I thought, well, right, here's the post office. I'll

1059
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,960
just back up against the po the mailbox here at

1060
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,760
the post office and take me up a bout an

1061
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,519
hour sleep here, I am. I have the doors off

1062
00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:44,599
my truck and the top and I cover up with

1063
00:56:44,599 --> 00:56:46,719
a blanket. And I thought, well, you know what if

1064
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,880
somebody comes by and thinks I'm trying to break in

1065
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,519
the post office, right, and I just sleep for by

1066
00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:54,280
an aro and go down, get some gas and go

1067
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,599
up road. And then I realized I was like, wait,

1068
00:56:57,599 --> 00:57:01,079
a minute. Again, I was like, I'm way way early.

1069
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:06,920
I was even two hours before we were thinking be there.

1070
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,000
But it was funny because it was two seventeen when

1071
00:57:11,039 --> 00:57:12,159
I left home.

1072
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:15,199
Speaker 3: That's what happens.

1073
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 2: Least.

1074
00:57:15,679 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 3: He was excited. He couldn't wait to get there. And

1075
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,079
then yeah, so.

1076
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 9: She's driving while you had that adrenaline running.

1077
00:57:23,159 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so less. I mean, you've been doing this

1078
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,119
for a while. I know you have people contact you

1079
00:57:29,239 --> 00:57:32,360
have you ever got phone calls? And went investigated a

1080
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,039
hot area for people that's having issues.

1081
00:57:35,719 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 7: Yeah. I started out mainly just posting on Facebook. You know.

1082
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,199
That's how I when I give a little short summary

1083
00:57:46,159 --> 00:57:51,079
how it got started, I've I've done paradorm investigating for

1084
00:57:51,079 --> 00:57:54,320
a long time. I have that stem from an experience

1085
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,760
I had as a kid. My oldest son got into

1086
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,920
it with me years later when he was in his teen.

1087
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:07,000
We investigated multiple places, you know, homes, you know, businesses, properties,

1088
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,280
and then he told God, he talked to me one

1089
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:11,599
day and he's like, hey, he said, what do you

1090
00:58:11,599 --> 00:58:13,280
think about Bigfoot? And I'm like, yeah, I know. You

1091
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,039
know it's a cool subject. You know, I know the

1092
00:58:17,039 --> 00:58:18,800
parish of given film, I know this and that you know,

1093
00:58:19,079 --> 00:58:21,400
I've looked into a little bit, but not a bunch.

1094
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:28,719
So we discussed about starting a Facebook page on about

1095
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,599
for West Virginia about people, for people to share anything

1096
00:58:31,639 --> 00:58:34,280
they have seen, you know, all kinds of stuff, just anything.

1097
00:58:34,719 --> 00:58:37,079
It was West Virginia, cryptis and strange encounters, so it

1098
00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:44,199
just covered everything. Well. After a certain post I had

1099
00:58:44,199 --> 00:58:47,320
put on there, people started contacting me about seeing bigfoot

1100
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:53,559
in West Virginia. And it started out me messaging, you know,

1101
00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:56,000
answering messages and talk to people that way then and

1102
00:58:56,079 --> 00:58:57,960
then it got into where I would talk to people

1103
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,320
on the phone. I mean I'd set for hours and

1104
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,960
hours and hours talking to different people, and then they

1105
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,400
would start to say, hey, can you come out and

1106
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,280
check this out? And I would go out to certain

1107
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:14,559
locations and look at things and try to the best

1108
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:18,239
I could help them with what they might be seeing

1109
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,039
or what they might not be seeing, what they might

1110
00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:23,239
not experience, you know, to give them that you know, hey,

1111
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,440
you know, my first thing is try to debunk what's

1112
00:59:27,519 --> 00:59:29,400
going on, you know, look for something that might have

1113
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,960
an explanation. And then it started to think there's some

1114
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,079
of these times, these things there's not an explanation. It's

1115
00:59:36,119 --> 00:59:38,559
got to be what they're seeing, so.

1116
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 3: Narrow it down right and what's left.

1117
00:59:44,719 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 7: Ahead and one of those for in case. The point

1118
00:59:50,079 --> 00:59:54,119
is I think it's been. It was two thousand and eighteen.

1119
00:59:54,199 --> 00:59:57,760
I believe it was. This gentleman. He gets a hold

1120
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,079
of me on Facebook, he asked, he said, hey, and

1121
01:00:00,159 --> 01:00:03,599
I call you. I'm like, yeah, absolutely, and we sit

1122
01:00:03,639 --> 01:00:06,159
and talk and he's like, he said, I'm sixty three

1123
01:00:06,199 --> 01:00:09,320
years old. He said, I'm basically a mountain man, you know,

1124
01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:12,800
as you can in terms I guess you say. He said,

1125
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,559
a hundred fish done everything you imagine here in West Virginia,

1126
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,440
he said, I've been in the woods all my life.

1127
01:00:19,679 --> 01:00:23,320
He said, you couldn't tell me Bigfoot exists anywhere in

1128
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,559
the world, let alone in West Virginia. He said. But

1129
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,639
after this date in twenty eighteen, he said, you can't

1130
01:00:30,679 --> 01:00:34,440
prove to me it doesn't. So I started talking to him,

1131
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:40,000
and this is literally what probably I don't know, half

1132
01:00:40,039 --> 01:00:44,559
hour from where Danny's hometown is. So I'm talking to him,

1133
01:00:44,559 --> 01:00:46,880
and I'm talking to his wife because they both had

1134
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,800
a sighting, you know, at the same time. And there

1135
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,440
was one thing that kept telling me that that got me,

1136
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,039
just piqued my interest, and I had to go meet

1137
01:00:58,039 --> 01:01:01,199
these folks, even though it had been months later. And

1138
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:03,840
the thing that they would tell me is every time

1139
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,800
I talk to them and we talked about the description,

1140
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,440
they kept saying, we don't remember seeing the feet, and

1141
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,519
it was just weird, you know, we don't remember seeing

1142
01:01:11,519 --> 01:01:14,760
the feet. And they would describe as to how lords

1143
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,199
what it looked like, how had this you know, bear

1144
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,000
chested or more the chests were more bear than the

1145
01:01:21,039 --> 01:01:23,960
rest of it, you know. And what had happened is

1146
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,559
they're driving along and they're coming down this route, this

1147
01:01:27,679 --> 01:01:29,719
road I think it's that thing. It's called Route thirty nine,

1148
01:01:30,639 --> 01:01:33,440
and around this turn three hundred and seventy five feet

1149
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,480
in front of them, because I've done all the measurements

1150
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,599
by their you know, by their description, there's a there's

1151
01:01:38,599 --> 01:01:41,639
a gravel lot. They see what they think is a

1152
01:01:41,639 --> 01:01:45,000
bear coming out on this gravel from this gravel lot

1153
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:48,840
onto the road, so on all fours comes out, gets

1154
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,599
in the middle of the road. They had already from

1155
01:01:50,639 --> 01:01:53,719
what three hundred seventy five feet to I don't know

1156
01:01:53,719 --> 01:01:56,320
how how close, you know, they had been at that point,

1157
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,079
and it stands up right in the middle, right in

1158
01:01:59,159 --> 01:02:01,840
their lane, and and faces and that's when they he

1159
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,440
quickly slows down and he said, we're looking at it,

1160
01:02:05,519 --> 01:02:08,760
and he describes it, and he says, it was, you know,

1161
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,280
darkened collar, looks like it was wet.

1162
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:10,519
Speaker 2: Well.

1163
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 7: Right off that gravel lot, there was a creek, so

1164
01:02:13,519 --> 01:02:16,559
this thing must have came through the creek. He says.

1165
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:18,840
It turns looks at him as it's it's turned. It's

1166
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,679
turned toward him. It's looking at him, and then it

1167
01:02:20,679 --> 01:02:23,039
turns away, goes across the road. Once it gets across

1168
01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:25,079
the road, on the other side, there's a ditch and

1169
01:02:25,199 --> 01:02:27,320
a bank. When he hits that bank, it's on all

1170
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,199
fours again, crawlsing all fours up the steep bank over

1171
01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:34,480
a rocket like kind of rock ledge. And again I'm

1172
01:02:35,639 --> 01:02:38,800
as we're talking, you know, I, my son and I

1173
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,320
were there. And when the when there's more than one witness,

1174
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,800
I always want to interview him separately because there's always

1175
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,559
a different perspective there always, I don't care you're sitting

1176
01:02:48,599 --> 01:02:51,480
side beside, there's a different perspective. So and one of

1177
01:02:51,519 --> 01:02:53,760
the other things I like to do is if if

1178
01:02:54,039 --> 01:02:56,119
one of the if a witness, or all the witnesses,

1179
01:02:56,159 --> 01:02:59,360
or at least one of the witnesses, can sketch something,

1180
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,760
you know that they're what they what they have seen.

1181
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,960
I have them do that. I also carry these little

1182
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,920
four by four pictures that are faces, that are artists

1183
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:13,639
renderings of what people claim have seen to have seen.

1184
01:03:14,199 --> 01:03:16,440
So I carry like twenty or twenty five others with me,

1185
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,760
And I asked the gentleman to, you know, walk with

1186
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,000
me and pick a face. And the lady's like, I

1187
01:03:22,039 --> 01:03:24,079
don't want to walk, you know. She said, I'm not

1188
01:03:24,119 --> 01:03:25,800
going out there, you know, I know what you know,

1189
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,320
you know. So I said, well, do you mind sketching

1190
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:33,119
sketching for me? And she did and got back down

1191
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,159
toward the car. She comes out, gives me the sketch.

1192
01:03:36,199 --> 01:03:38,639
He's already picked out his picture. And if you see,

1193
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,760
you see these two things side beside the face and

1194
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,159
the picture that she sketched, the faces on him are

1195
01:03:45,159 --> 01:03:46,320
almost identical.

1196
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,239
Speaker 9: Wow, that's cool.

1197
01:03:48,719 --> 01:03:51,639
Speaker 7: But the next thing I noticed is on the sketch

1198
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,559
she had drawn the legs all the way to the

1199
01:03:53,559 --> 01:03:57,480
battle in the paper with no feet. So I'm still intrigued.

1200
01:03:57,679 --> 01:04:01,320
Why are they saying there's no feet and then it

1201
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,360
dawns on me. So I asked the gentlemen, I said,

1202
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,360
can you take my son and.

1203
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 2: Like in this.

1204
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,599
Speaker 7: Gravel lot, not in the road, but put him where

1205
01:04:10,639 --> 01:04:12,920
you believe this thing was at, you know, based on it,

1206
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,760
you know, from the road. He said, yeah, he tells

1207
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,360
my son to stand here. And I said, now I'm

1208
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,159
going to back up. You stopped me in my car

1209
01:04:21,239 --> 01:04:24,880
where you believe you were at, and he did. I

1210
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,880
immediately take my phone, hold an eye level, take a picture,

1211
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,800
get out and show him. And you could see his face.

1212
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,320
You could see the collar drained from his face because

1213
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,679
at that moment he realized why they couldn't see their.

1214
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:38,679
Speaker 3: Feet too close?

1215
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 7: They're too close. They were literally within six feet of

1216
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,039
its bump, you know, it was six feet or so

1217
01:04:44,239 --> 01:04:46,599
of its bumper, because you couldn't see my son's feet

1218
01:04:46,639 --> 01:04:49,599
from just a few inches below the knees and down. Oh,

1219
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,920
and I and to me, that's one of the coolest

1220
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,440
things that I've come across, you know, And it just

1221
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,239
why would it if if that's they were trying to

1222
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,360
hoax me, why would they say? You know, so that's

1223
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,079
why you know, well that what.

1224
01:05:04,119 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 2: He's talking about, and where we were at at the

1225
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:12,920
lake when it was snowing was about twelve miles apart.

1226
01:05:13,559 --> 01:05:16,239
And that place at the lake from the house that

1227
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:22,039
I grew up in was about a mile. And at

1228
01:05:22,039 --> 01:05:23,880
the same place where where we was at with the

1229
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,519
snow about a quarter of a mile from my house

1230
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:30,400
three quarters of a mile from where we were at

1231
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,440
that day, a gentleman called me and told me he

1232
01:05:33,519 --> 01:05:36,280
had seen footprints, or had he took a couple of

1233
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,480
pictures of some footprints at another part of the lake.

1234
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:44,079
And I happened to just stop there one day, and

1235
01:05:44,199 --> 01:05:46,000
there was some footprints and they were about three and

1236
01:05:46,039 --> 01:05:50,880
a half foot apart, and I sent him some pictures

1237
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,559
of it. And I got to looking where I was standing,

1238
01:05:54,119 --> 01:05:56,559
and you could almost see my mom and dad's house

1239
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,119
right a quarter of a mile away, And I'm thinking,

1240
01:05:59,519 --> 01:06:01,760
you know here, I didn't even you know, I didn't

1241
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,039
know this growing up.

1242
01:06:04,199 --> 01:06:08,079
Speaker 3: Did any any of your family ever mention anything like that?

1243
01:06:09,159 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 2: Now now, I remember being a kid and mom and

1244
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:17,280
dad talking about ghosts, UFOs and bigfoot, and I was scared.

1245
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,800
I was terrified. I was literally I was one of

1246
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,320
those little kids that was terrified. I mean at night,

1247
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,960
I wouldn't go outside, and so I had a flashlight

1248
01:06:27,039 --> 01:06:28,920
and I would Dad would say, hey, can you go

1249
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,519
get this for me out of my truck or Mom's car.

1250
01:06:32,199 --> 01:06:36,239
I would literally run fifteen feet to get to the

1251
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:40,559
car and run back. I was terrified. And now I'm

1252
01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:43,519
going out in the woods hunting bigfoot. I'm going into

1253
01:06:43,639 --> 01:06:46,519
haunt houses a lot of most of the business with him.

1254
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,679
Speaker 3: Well, when you did Danny freeze up on y'all's in.

1255
01:06:51,079 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, he throws up. His audio is still there,

1256
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:54,079
but yeahs up.

1257
01:06:54,119 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 3: We are you making a heck of a face, Danny. Well, well,

1258
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,559
the thing is, Danny, I'll say this. Uh, the more

1259
01:07:02,719 --> 01:07:06,559
you learn, yep, and the more you educate yourself, you

1260
01:07:06,719 --> 01:07:10,639
will react different to things. I you know, this doesn't

1261
01:07:10,679 --> 01:07:13,039
have anything to do a bigfoot, but like less, I

1262
01:07:13,039 --> 01:07:15,400
had things happen when I was a kid, paranormal stuff,

1263
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:21,239
and I was terrified of movies. Anything, a story you could,

1264
01:07:21,639 --> 01:07:23,800
y'all could tell a story. I just leave the room. Now,

1265
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:24,519
I'm lessing that.

1266
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,639
Speaker 2: So one day, the Chicken of the Family, right when

1267
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:32,039
Jaws came out fifteen minutes into the movie Jaws, when

1268
01:07:32,039 --> 01:07:35,159
it first came out in the seventies. I was gone.

1269
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:36,519
I was like, I'm out.

1270
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,679
Speaker 3: Well at we were at a drive in Danny. I

1271
01:07:40,719 --> 01:07:43,239
saw that first five minute when those drums started. I

1272
01:07:43,639 --> 01:07:45,920
tried to crawl up under the dash of that old Chevy.

1273
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,039
And for fifteen years I thought drums were killing people.

1274
01:07:49,079 --> 01:07:50,519
I didn't know there's a shark in the movie.

1275
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,039
Speaker 2: Well the girl got attacked. I was. I went to

1276
01:07:54,079 --> 01:07:56,280
my uncle and I said, I want to go home,

1277
01:07:56,519 --> 01:07:58,880
and I think I remember was going over to the

1278
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,079
concession stand using the phone, call my mom and Dad's

1279
01:08:02,159 --> 01:08:04,039
stay in there, crying my eyes out.

1280
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:08,639
Speaker 3: All right, come give me. Well, so you know what

1281
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,679
I did. I was an adult. I was home by

1282
01:08:11,719 --> 01:08:15,800
myself and Ghost Adventure Zone. I'm like, you gotta get

1283
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,439
over this. It's a TV show. I was. It was

1284
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,560
a marathon that day. I forced myself after about three

1285
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,000
of them. I'm like, okay, So kind of with Bigfoot

1286
01:08:26,079 --> 01:08:28,760
or anything else you have, you kind of face your

1287
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,119
fears or you learn more, educate yourself.

1288
01:08:31,159 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 2: It helps the shows I used to watch, and whenever

1289
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:41,800
I first started getting into Ghost something and and and Bigfoot.

1290
01:08:42,039 --> 01:08:45,560
When I met my wife, now she was watching the

1291
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,600
same show as I was, and we started watching them together,

1292
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,279
and I told her, I said, whenever we take the

1293
01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:52,760
jeep out and go on a trail, riders and you know,

1294
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:54,640
who knows what we might see. We might see a

1295
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,039
big foot someday, you know, just just kidding around and

1296
01:08:57,079 --> 01:09:00,199
so far having done it. But we've seen bears and

1297
01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:04,880
coyotes and turkey, you know, the typical stuff. And well,

1298
01:09:05,199 --> 01:09:07,520
where we go is kind of squaking.

1299
01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:14,359
Speaker 3: Well, look, you know how many people would kill to

1300
01:09:14,399 --> 01:09:17,279
find a trackway and you you and Less, I mean,

1301
01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:22,600
don't the sightings are so rare, and you know, you

1302
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:27,960
keep doing what you're doing, it might happen. But finding

1303
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:32,920
the evidence is great. That's I applaud you for doing that.

1304
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,439
And especially I kind of know what you're talking about,

1305
01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:38,640
especially being scared of stuff like that. It takes it

1306
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,479
takes a lot to get out there. I mean, you're

1307
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,399
doing something that I don't do. I don't get out

1308
01:09:44,039 --> 01:09:45,720
like if Less that, hey come out and camp and

1309
01:09:46,159 --> 01:09:47,680
for two nights way out in the middle of nowhere,

1310
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,680
I'm like, no, thank you.

1311
01:09:51,239 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 2: Greg. Greg closed, He asked off, what's the you know,

1312
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:58,159
the most exciting and uh and the scared So far,

1313
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,920
I've really not been aired. I mean I've been out

1314
01:10:02,039 --> 01:10:05,960
several times with different people and and with less and

1315
01:10:06,039 --> 01:10:08,079
I've even done it a couple of times by myself.

1316
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,159
And I'm not really been scared. I've not been uneasy.

1317
01:10:11,199 --> 01:10:15,279
I've not felt that yet. And the most exciting is

1318
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,640
any of them, especially with this man are here. I mean,

1319
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,840
because I've learned things from him and other people that

1320
01:10:23,319 --> 01:10:27,720
you know, watching the podcasts or reading the books, you know,

1321
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:31,159
finding things out on Facebook. You know that if you

1322
01:10:31,239 --> 01:10:34,479
learn something from this person and learn something from this

1323
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,880
person and you put them together, you know you're learning more.

1324
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:40,560
You know you're learning as much as you can.

1325
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 3: Well, Danny, did you grow up hunting?

1326
01:10:43,159 --> 01:10:43,319
Speaker 2: Oh?

1327
01:10:43,359 --> 01:10:46,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, and fishing, so you're very comfortable in the woods

1328
01:10:46,279 --> 01:10:47,239
like a lot of us are.

1329
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've been flipping the woods.

1330
01:10:49,039 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 3: You know, on purpose. I fell asleep, he.

1331
01:10:56,279 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 2: With Thanksgiving Day, right after dinner. It was seventy something year.

1332
01:11:00,159 --> 01:11:01,760
The sun was getting me just right.

1333
01:11:02,359 --> 01:11:04,520
Speaker 3: I got a picture I'm looking at here. I have

1334
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,039
seen this before, but it was in a hackberry tree

1335
01:11:08,199 --> 01:11:10,199
and I'll show it, but I'll just set this up.

1336
01:11:12,199 --> 01:11:14,319
I didn't see it at first, and I kind of

1337
01:11:14,359 --> 01:11:18,520
glanced up. It was wintertime, something out of core my eye. Now,

1338
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,640
there's no not gonna mean snakes out at the temperature

1339
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,680
it was, but the first thing I thought was snake.

1340
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:24,800
I jumped away from it.

1341
01:11:26,079 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 2: Tell me about this, Well, we went on our spring

1342
01:11:30,399 --> 01:11:35,479
camp out last April, and we've been doing our camp outs.

1343
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,079
We tried to get one in the spring and wanted

1344
01:11:37,079 --> 01:11:40,479
to fall. And last spring, me and one of the

1345
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,960
guys was going toward where we were going to set

1346
01:11:43,039 --> 01:11:46,600
up camp and I said, wait a minute, did you

1347
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,279
just see that, dear lad? And we backed up and

1348
01:11:49,319 --> 01:11:53,920
we stopped. And another picture I've got. I'm standing beside it,

1349
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,039
and the knuckle that's up at the highest point of

1350
01:11:57,039 --> 01:12:01,000
the leg there is about six feet in the air.

1351
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,800
And if you if you can focus in on that,

1352
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,800
it's not cut. It's broke.

1353
01:12:07,399 --> 01:12:10,159
Speaker 3: Well that's I did. I can't do it here. But

1354
01:12:10,359 --> 01:12:12,720
I examined it a little bit and it looked like

1355
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,920
it was snouted. And I didn't see any cut marks.

1356
01:12:16,359 --> 01:12:18,439
I might have seen a toothmark on the bone, but

1357
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:19,039
I'm not sure.

1358
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,319
Speaker 2: I don't know. I couldn't see. I didn't even I

1359
01:12:22,319 --> 01:12:24,800
didn't even take it out of the tree. There's no

1360
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,319
other body parts, there's no other legs. There's no hair

1361
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,880
except for one little tiny piece about the size of

1362
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,920
a dime laying on the ground. We looked around in

1363
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:38,479
the in the woods there a little bit.

1364
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 3: I couldn't see the rest of the deer or anything.

1365
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,600
Speaker 2: It's like, and we got things like, well it would

1366
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:48,560
a hunter throw it out? Well, it's possible, but if

1367
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,720
somebody's hunting, you know, they're going to take an axe

1368
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:53,039
or a saw and cut it.

1369
01:12:54,079 --> 01:12:56,319
Speaker 3: Are you talking about like driving by and throwing it out?

1370
01:12:57,079 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1371
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,119
Speaker 3: Man, you talking about Look at so are you? Is

1372
01:13:01,119 --> 01:13:03,039
the is the road behind you when you're.

1373
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 2: Taking the road, but it's behind me?

1374
01:13:06,199 --> 01:13:09,039
Speaker 3: That's an almost impossible shot. It would have been arcd in.

1375
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 7: Well, this is the road that this is off of.

1376
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,359
Is a road that leads way back into this uh

1377
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:17,800
dispersed camping area.

1378
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 2: Uh.

1379
01:13:19,039 --> 01:13:22,039
Speaker 7: It's like a little tiny, narrow gravel road. Uh. It's

1380
01:13:22,079 --> 01:13:24,239
a place that I've been. I go quite a bit

1381
01:13:24,279 --> 01:13:26,199
as well, and decided to have a camp out with

1382
01:13:26,239 --> 01:13:31,279
the folks. All the folks there that year. We we've

1383
01:13:31,319 --> 01:13:32,920
had you know, when I was there with my son

1384
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,039
at one time, we had some really cool things happen.

1385
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:39,720
Found some interesting rockstaff that I took took all those

1386
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,800
guys as the group to see. That was what we say, Danny,

1387
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:48,560
probably half a mile or so over where we would camp.

1388
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, about a half a mile we camp.

1389
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,079
Speaker 7: And you've got to go through this pine forest and

1390
01:13:54,119 --> 01:13:56,439
then you go through what we it's a ball we

1391
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,079
called a blister swamp. I mean it's pete moss, probably

1392
01:13:59,079 --> 01:14:02,439
two three feet fet two to three feet thick, and

1393
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:04,960
you had to get across it, go across this little

1394
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:10,520
stream into peatbog again, very thick laurel bushes up into

1395
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,760
a heart little small, kind of a small hardwood section

1396
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,279
around in this peatbog. And you get over in there

1397
01:14:17,279 --> 01:14:20,199
and there is a rock stack. That's not the little

1398
01:14:20,199 --> 01:14:23,239
ones you see that people do along the creeks. This

1399
01:14:23,319 --> 01:14:27,239
is over on this I call island in the middle

1400
01:14:27,239 --> 01:14:30,159
of this peat bog, half a mile from from the

1401
01:14:30,199 --> 01:14:33,279
nearest little road. And then the biggest rock at the

1402
01:14:33,279 --> 01:14:36,159
bottom is probably almost three feet across and probably almost

1403
01:14:36,159 --> 01:14:36,800
a foot thick.

1404
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:42,039
Speaker 2: Two or three people on the bottom rock. I mean,

1405
01:14:42,079 --> 01:14:45,159
it's kind of it's very odd, and none of the

1406
01:14:45,239 --> 01:14:48,399
rocks of that type are in that area.

1407
01:14:49,199 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 3: I have a picture of a rock stack.

1408
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 7: Is that the rock stack that's it. Yeah, that's it.

1409
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's in the middle of nowhere.

1410
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:03,359
Speaker 3: So we're where did the material come from? Is it

1411
01:15:03,399 --> 01:15:05,960
a long ways off or is the rocks laying around

1412
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:06,479
like that?

1413
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 7: Those would have had to be pulled out of the

1414
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:12,760
ground right there. Okay, they're somewhat buried. If you do

1415
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:17,399
find those ones, they're somewhat buried. There's bigger boulders that's

1416
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:21,000
set within this little you know, ford like forested area,

1417
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,000
but those would have to be pulled from the ground

1418
01:15:24,119 --> 01:15:25,479
and carried to that location.

1419
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 2: And that is.

1420
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 3: Something I noticed something right away at the top of it.

1421
01:15:31,039 --> 01:15:37,359
Is that triangle yeah looking rock yeah started well yeah, yeah, yeah.

1422
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:42,560
Speaker 7: And as the crow flies, that's what Danny down two

1423
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:46,920
about ten miles ten miles from where we went camping

1424
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,920
in the little triangle rock, you know, at the camping Yeah,

1425
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:51,439
about ten miles, about ten.

1426
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 2: Miles, and then the deer leg was probably about what half.

1427
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 7: A mile half a mile up the road from at Yeah.

1428
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,800
But the really cool thing that the reason I go

1429
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:05,800
back there. I see Dave's in there, Danny. I just

1430
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:10,560
now seen Dave in there. Dave, our buddy, David's in

1431
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,680
our group. He's in there. Three Forks Creek Outdoors. That's

1432
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,840
des our buddy Dave, but him and Danny had found

1433
01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:18,960
we're walking around this area. We split up in groups

1434
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:22,640
of it was me and my son masonare Tammy. Tony

1435
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:27,800
went off went one direction, Danny, Dave and West went

1436
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,359
off one direction. And they radio and they said, that's

1437
01:16:30,399 --> 01:16:33,520
what we think. We found tracks. And it was coming

1438
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:38,359
down from where we were at probably probably fifty to

1439
01:16:38,399 --> 01:16:42,039
seventy five feet from that. Those rocks you could see

1440
01:16:42,079 --> 01:16:47,520
where something had pushed down in like the not moss,

1441
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,640
it's just real soft substry, but it's got moss on top.

1442
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,760
Had pushed down and left Prince going back down out

1443
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,359
through the Laurel bush out in the bullet into the

1444
01:16:55,359 --> 01:16:59,439
Blister swamp. And they were probably somewhere between three or

1445
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:03,119
so feet part four feet apart. Maybe they were about

1446
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,279
fourteen fifteen inches long, and they were probably sunk in

1447
01:17:06,319 --> 01:17:09,039
the ground at least three or four inches. I mean,

1448
01:17:09,039 --> 01:17:11,920
it wasn't there's no definition, but you could see these

1449
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:13,079
prints going down.

1450
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 2: Through there like it was just a big print, no

1451
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,039
toes or nothing, just right a step and then the

1452
01:17:20,199 --> 01:17:22,399
very almost the center of.

1453
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,640
Speaker 7: It looked like it turned around it looked like it

1454
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:29,479
stepped in like around, spun around, planted his foot again

1455
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:31,880
like it was looking behind it, and then turned back

1456
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:32,800
around and walked on.

1457
01:17:34,319 --> 01:17:35,560
Speaker 2: It was so weird.

1458
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,239
Speaker 3: I got a question, all right, So that that big

1459
01:17:39,359 --> 01:17:42,760
rock that's facing us, that's leaning up against it, is

1460
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:44,600
that a limb placed under it?

1461
01:17:45,159 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 7: Yes?

1462
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:47,079
Speaker 2: Yes?

1463
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 3: What what's to what's to the left of you over here?

1464
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 7: Like?

1465
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,119
Speaker 3: Is there water or no?

1466
01:17:53,199 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 7: It's it's kind of like a land of like an

1467
01:17:57,279 --> 01:18:00,520
a little okay, yeah, there's no water. There's just this

1468
01:18:01,039 --> 01:18:04,439
there's a blister swamp that surrounds it on all sides,

1469
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:08,720
and you have one little stream that's probably most of

1470
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,720
the time it's no more than three to four feet wide,

1471
01:18:12,159 --> 01:18:15,600
but it's it ranges probably anywhere from six feet or

1472
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:17,960
six inches probably to two feet deep.

1473
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 11: Uh.

1474
01:18:19,319 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 7: They call it the black water area because all that

1475
01:18:22,039 --> 01:18:24,800
peat bog and the tannins from the trees turn that

1476
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:29,680
water like it's dark brown. Right, So it's it's it's

1477
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,720
it's kind of eerie to see this little stream running

1478
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,600
through there, but that's the only water nearby other than

1479
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,119
the water that's into peat bogs.

1480
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 3: I have another question. So this this spot right here

1481
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,840
is that normal to see nothing growing in a spot

1482
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,279
that big or is it just did you just is

1483
01:18:45,319 --> 01:18:48,119
it like when you come into it it opens up?

1484
01:18:48,319 --> 01:18:49,159
Speaker 2: Is it? You see?

1485
01:18:49,199 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You say, it looks kind

1486
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,479
of dead all around it.

1487
01:18:53,079 --> 01:18:54,319
Speaker 7: The lot of that, A lot of that right, there

1488
01:18:54,399 --> 01:18:56,960
is a lot of undergrowth. There's no a bunch of

1489
01:18:57,039 --> 01:19:00,560
undergrowth nowhere in that area. Really. I think it's just

1490
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:04,359
because it's higher elevation, because we're probably at I think

1491
01:19:04,359 --> 01:19:07,479
it's what thirty eight hundred feet thirty eight thirty nine

1492
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,920
hundred feet, so there's not a whole lot of undergrowth now.

1493
01:19:11,279 --> 01:19:13,800
But there's a lot of laurel bush arounds in the

1494
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,239
backside of that. Yeah, I see was.

1495
01:19:16,159 --> 01:19:17,560
Speaker 3: That laurel on the back right?

1496
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:18,119
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1497
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1498
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 2: Okay, now that that looks like a lot of mountain laurel,

1499
01:19:22,159 --> 01:19:25,520
the size of it. Right down from this where we

1500
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,119
were at and we found that trackway there's this one.

1501
01:19:28,199 --> 01:19:31,800
Less said, look for the soccer ball. Yeah, And I said,

1502
01:19:32,119 --> 01:19:33,960
what are you talking about? Looking for the soccer ball?

1503
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,000
I was thinking soccer ball? You know, somebody plays the

1504
01:19:37,039 --> 01:19:37,920
soccer ball out there.

1505
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 3: He's giving you a treasure mount is what you doing?

1506
01:19:41,039 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 2: And this. It was just a boulder and right at

1507
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,680
the edge of it, if you would have stepped off

1508
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,319
of it, it was about six or seven feet down

1509
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:53,800
and it was a couple of feet to get up

1510
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:57,359
on it. Here sets this rock, it's almost round, like

1511
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,399
a like a soccer ball, and it's about the size

1512
01:20:00,399 --> 01:20:02,600
of that that bigger one. And he said, look for

1513
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,000
the soccer ball. And then I'm centered and I'm like, hey,

1514
01:20:05,319 --> 01:20:07,199
that's what he's talking about, soccer ball. And then you

1515
01:20:07,239 --> 01:20:10,279
get to looking at it's like, how did that get there? Right?

1516
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:11,520
Speaker 3: Where did it come from?

1517
01:20:12,079 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 7: And and I found I had found these, like I

1518
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:19,399
think at that time it was four years prior, and

1519
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,880
so those are four years old, and they had they

1520
01:20:22,119 --> 01:20:23,920
had been there for a while when I found him.

1521
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:29,279
And then and how I found those is there was me,

1522
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:35,279
our friend, Daniel Boone Smith. I went in one one

1523
01:20:35,399 --> 01:20:40,159
day in front of everybody and stayed. Daniel come in,

1524
01:20:40,319 --> 01:20:42,840
who was there early the next morning. My son and

1525
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,960
his friend were coming in later that afternoon. As they're

1526
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:52,640
coming in, Justin's like, uh, seeing this wood piled along

1527
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:54,800
the road and an old cabin way back down where

1528
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,479
they was clearing, and there's been a dead pine tree

1529
01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:59,239
that fell over and they cut the wood up, put

1530
01:20:59,279 --> 01:21:01,359
it out by the road, said free firewood. So he

1531
01:21:01,359 --> 01:21:05,520
picks this firewood up, brings it. Yeah, yes, Griff, Blackwaterfalls,

1532
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:09,319
Canane Valley. Yeah, that's where it's at. We uh. He

1533
01:21:09,359 --> 01:21:12,159
picks his firewood up and there, and there's already been

1534
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,199
historical I guess you'd say, with sightings in that area

1535
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,199
dating back to the sixties, seventies and you know, somewhere there.

1536
01:21:20,079 --> 01:21:23,880
So he's he brings that firewood and he's trying to

1537
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,199
split this firewood with with with an axe. I don't

1538
01:21:26,199 --> 01:21:28,439
think he'd actually split butter with but he beat on

1539
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:33,439
that firewood forever. Finally splits all of it, and we're

1540
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:37,119
just hanging out. We're sitting around to fire and all

1541
01:21:37,119 --> 01:21:41,039
of a sudden, this we heard this howl that I've

1542
01:21:41,159 --> 01:21:45,840
never heard in my life. You know, the typical what

1543
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,439
you would find about the Ohio, how you know, and

1544
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,000
stuff like that. It is a little bit different. It's

1545
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:57,279
a little more gravelly, you know, kind of whatever is

1546
01:21:57,319 --> 01:21:59,520
it wasn't you know? You you tell that it was

1547
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:00,760
a little bit of review. I don't know how to

1548
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:01,279
explain it.

1549
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 2: Well, it just was.

1550
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:08,520
Speaker 7: It raspy, well kind of not, but it was long duration,

1551
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,159
but it had a little bit different pitch. It was

1552
01:22:10,199 --> 01:22:12,520
a little deeper, a little more raspy, and it went

1553
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,600
off and then when it went off, coyotes everywhere went off,

1554
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:19,560
just went nuts. So Daniel jumps up, he grabs this

1555
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:22,760
parabolic mic. If we didn't think to have anything setting out,

1556
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:24,920
you know, any reportings or anything, because we were just

1557
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:25,479
hanging out.

1558
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,600
Speaker 2: You know, that's that's that's a different Yeah, it's.

1559
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 7: A different that's another that's a different one. Yeah, that's different,

1560
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:34,920
Daniel different, Danny.

1561
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 3: Too, Well, yeah, that's a nice mic.

1562
01:22:39,119 --> 01:22:42,119
Speaker 7: Yeah. So Daniel has this really i mean really nice

1563
01:22:42,119 --> 01:22:45,000
parabolic and he jumps up. We're looking around. Nothing never

1564
01:22:45,039 --> 01:22:50,319
happens again. Next morning Daniel leaves. I tell my son.

1565
01:22:50,399 --> 01:22:51,640
I was like, hey, I want to go over where

1566
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,000
we heard. I want to walk in that direction wherever

1567
01:22:54,079 --> 01:22:56,119
wherever that how comes you know, the direction of the

1568
01:22:56,119 --> 01:22:59,239
how come from. And he said, well, okay, I'll get ready,

1569
01:22:59,279 --> 01:23:01,840
we'll go with you said, I stay here, I'll go over.

1570
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:04,279
Service is not great, but you'll be able to follow

1571
01:23:04,279 --> 01:23:07,039
me on GPS and if I if something happens, you know,

1572
01:23:07,199 --> 01:23:09,279
I got I got my pepew, I'll shoot in the

1573
01:23:09,279 --> 01:23:10,840
air a couple of times, and you know, you know

1574
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:14,680
it's you know, come come looking. So we go over

1575
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,159
and I get through the bliss blister swamp cover up

1576
01:23:17,159 --> 01:23:19,119
in there, and that's when I find that rock stack.

1577
01:23:19,159 --> 01:23:20,760
And then I walk off to the side and that's

1578
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,479
when I find the soccer ball. It's but you know,

1579
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:24,800
it looks like it had been picked up and bashed

1580
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,760
on his boulder and and I'm like, now, this is

1581
01:23:28,399 --> 01:23:30,800
this is a cool area. You know. I've got historical

1582
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:33,760
or I guess you say, stories that I've talked to

1583
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:37,960
people about. There's one that's well known, uh that I

1584
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:39,640
don't know if y'all know who John Kell is, but

1585
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,560
John Kell, you know, was part of the Mothman stuff.

1586
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,279
He wrote another book and he talks about just what

1587
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:47,880
they you know, this sighting in that area, and it's

1588
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:51,119
become known as the Canyon Monster. So you got all that.

1589
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:53,920
I've taken reports from the area. We have a friend

1590
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:57,199
that just down the area or down the road. Uh

1591
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:00,560
trying to remember what year it was. It was years

1592
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,279
a couple of years before we were there, but I

1593
01:24:03,319 --> 01:24:06,520
can't remember your Uh. He was camping with some other guys.

1594
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,119
He was uh with some other folks. He was part

1595
01:24:08,119 --> 01:24:09,640
of the b f R O and they were doing

1596
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,479
like a small camp out. Uh. He's in his tent.

1597
01:24:13,119 --> 01:24:15,239
Other people were in other tents. He hears something to

1598
01:24:15,279 --> 01:24:18,479
come across the creek. Here's something out messing around with

1599
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,159
the cooler. He thinks of bear. So he just didn't

1600
01:24:20,159 --> 01:24:21,720
get out of tent. And then all of a sudden,

1601
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,039
his hand pushes down on top of his tent, right

1602
01:24:24,039 --> 01:24:26,960
down on top of his face. So we're in that.

1603
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:27,920
That's the area we're in.

1604
01:24:28,319 --> 01:24:32,399
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's a it's a heavily travel A lot

1605
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,199
of people travel it it cause it's a it's a

1606
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:39,000
called camping. Uh, it's the first camping. But it's also

1607
01:24:39,079 --> 01:24:42,159
an off road trail. Plus it's an awesome place to

1608
01:24:42,239 --> 01:24:45,439
hike and got hiking trails out there. But like he said,

1609
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:48,880
there's there's stuff out there that that you can hear

1610
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,560
and it's a super super nice area.

1611
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,319
Speaker 3: I got a question for you all this when we

1612
01:24:57,319 --> 01:25:02,840
were talking about looking around h in the past two months.

1613
01:25:03,239 --> 01:25:08,479
Now I know where both places are, but independently a

1614
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:11,279
mom and a son, there's a place where there's some

1615
01:25:11,319 --> 01:25:14,520
Bfroro reports about fifteen miles as the crow flies here.

1616
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:16,560
And I'm sure you've heard the flint of a monster

1617
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:20,520
before and all that. That's not too far away. It's

1618
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:25,159
east of here, southeast and then this place, and then

1619
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:30,399
I can't mention where. But then I was with a

1620
01:25:30,399 --> 01:25:34,000
group and I was told something. I'm like, wait a minute,

1621
01:25:34,079 --> 01:25:36,239
it kind of matched up with what she had told me.

1622
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:39,640
Have you, guys, I know, here and you get up

1623
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:42,760
in the mountains some of the old homestead homes that

1624
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:46,399
haven't been nobody's lived in since the twenties, thirties and forties.

1625
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:50,119
Have you ever gone inside any of those and scene

1626
01:25:50,159 --> 01:25:51,640
where it looked like something might be betting?

1627
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 7: I mean, I've been into locations like that and you'll

1628
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:03,439
find you'll find like a leaf piles. Whether that's a

1629
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,840
betting or whether it's just something that's blown in. I

1630
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:08,760
can't really say. I've never really found anything that's really,

1631
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:13,079
like I said, defendively, has mashed it down and left

1632
01:26:13,119 --> 01:26:15,399
any kind of sign, like whether it's hair scat other

1633
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:19,359
things like raccoons and stuff like that. But I saw

1634
01:26:19,359 --> 01:26:22,239
I guess the answer is no, not really Okay, you

1635
01:26:22,279 --> 01:26:22,960
know the.

1636
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:26,119
Speaker 2: Only thing i've found is like the one of the

1637
01:26:26,199 --> 01:26:32,520
cheapy shape. It was real matted down inside, and it

1638
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,159
was like you know how a deer will lay down

1639
01:26:35,199 --> 01:26:38,560
and you get beer beds. Yeah, that's what it was like.

1640
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:39,920
That's about the only thing I've seen.

1641
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,520
Speaker 3: I just I thought, since y'all were in West Virginia,

1642
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:47,000
it's probably like places here where you'll run up on

1643
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:50,640
the old homestead. And I didn't think much of it.

1644
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:54,680
The lady or her son, I know where the roads at.

1645
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:56,880
I've been through there and I know exactly which there's

1646
01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:00,920
only like two houses on the whole road. And she

1647
01:27:01,079 --> 01:27:05,319
said they heard something so like laughing and giggling, and

1648
01:27:05,359 --> 01:27:08,640
then something big come running out. She wasn't right around

1649
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:12,000
back yet there's the doors off, and it jumped off

1650
01:27:12,039 --> 01:27:16,600
the porch and landed heavy on two feet. Now, she's

1651
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,199
when she was nine she saw two big foot in

1652
01:27:19,239 --> 01:27:23,279
the area, so she's always known they were real. But

1653
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,479
of course local people you call me or text me

1654
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:30,960
or whatever email, and I'm like, okay, I didn't you

1655
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:32,960
know that might be a one off thing, right, But

1656
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,600
then I heard it again. I'm like, well, maybe we

1657
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,640
need to start checking out some of these easy shelters,

1658
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:42,359
you know, way back, yeah, way back off the beaten path.

1659
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,079
That's just my I'm sorry y'all took away.

1660
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 2: From That's that's fine. I mean, you never know. I mean,

1661
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:55,760
it's possible anything could live in one of those. That's

1662
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,600
why you gotta be careful. You don't know if it's

1663
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:58,479
gonna be a bob kat.

1664
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, are our means gone?

1665
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,199
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what we're we have to watch right now.

1666
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:08,800
The area that Tammy and I go to quite a

1667
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,640
bit of here in our area because like I don't

1668
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:13,720
know if Danny told you, Danny and I are probably

1669
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:15,000
what three and a half hours apart.

1670
01:28:15,239 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 2: He lives in the northern part of the state. I

1671
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,920
live in the southern part of the state, and we've

1672
01:28:20,039 --> 01:28:23,399
kind of got both areas covered. He'll call me and

1673
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,439
he'll say, hey, you know, can you check this out

1674
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,840
or what do you think about this? And it's like

1675
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:35,920
I asked him about one a friend of ours was

1676
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:40,840
talking about an area just south of here, and he said, well,

1677
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:43,880
he said, he said, I know what you're talking about.

1678
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:46,800
I know that area, and he already knew about it.

1679
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 7: Yeah. I talked to a lot of people. People contact

1680
01:28:50,079 --> 01:28:53,600
me and and I have a couple of people here

1681
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,960
and there that I talked to. They don't like to

1682
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:59,560
be out and they don't like to be well known

1683
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:02,520
or known about it. So I talked to him, they're

1684
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:06,159
like kind of my liaisons in those certain areas and

1685
01:29:06,319 --> 01:29:08,159
the area he was talking about us, like, yeah, I

1686
01:29:08,199 --> 01:29:10,039
know guy there, So okay, that guy a call and

1687
01:29:10,079 --> 01:29:12,399
he's like, yeah, I got a guy that right now

1688
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:15,640
says having experiences on his property. He says, as long

1689
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:21,840
as we promise that we don't disclose location and stuff

1690
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:23,840
like that, and he wants to meet us in advance

1691
01:29:24,079 --> 01:29:27,439
and discusting you talk to us that he was more

1692
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:31,439
happy to show us around. But yeah, it's just cool,

1693
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:34,239
like I said. But just to go back on, we're

1694
01:29:34,279 --> 01:29:36,760
Tammy and I are right now. It's spring and it

1695
01:29:37,319 --> 01:29:39,840
you know, with spring being on, we have to worry

1696
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,920
about the bears waking up. So where we go there's

1697
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,560
a lot of a lot of rock and stuff like that,

1698
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,399
and these bears, you know, hibernate in these rocks. So

1699
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:50,760
some of the research area that that we go to

1700
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,680
is usually winter time. We usually don't hit it much

1701
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:57,359
in spring because because the bear and the rattlesnake issues

1702
01:29:57,399 --> 01:29:59,960
because we have to. I don't know if Danny's show

1703
01:30:00,199 --> 01:30:03,560
any of the pictures where did you send them any

1704
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:05,279
pictures where I took you up there and we're them

1705
01:30:05,319 --> 01:30:08,640
sloughts and he's crawling through the winlats.

1706
01:30:10,239 --> 01:30:13,119
Speaker 2: He took you up to the up near where he lives,

1707
01:30:14,159 --> 01:30:18,199
and he said, you're gonna like this, take you to

1708
01:30:18,239 --> 01:30:22,640
the caves. And I'm like, okay, I mean I wasn't

1709
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:25,720
you know. I didn't know. I just knew partially what

1710
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:29,399
I was getting into. And we go up to this

1711
01:30:30,359 --> 01:30:34,640
massive rock structure that I mean, it's like a it's

1712
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:38,880
like a skyscraper, and it's trees all over and everything.

1713
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:41,640
And you go to this one little area and it's

1714
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:46,159
literally twelve inches wide that you know, between these two

1715
01:30:46,239 --> 01:30:50,159
rocks and it starts out about two foot wide and

1716
01:30:50,199 --> 01:30:52,159
goes like yes, he said, won't you go through there?

1717
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:54,399
And I get up through there, but having I say,

1718
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:59,199
I can't get through that around and he says, come on,

1719
01:30:59,279 --> 01:31:01,239
let's go down in the here. Took me down to

1720
01:31:01,319 --> 01:31:04,039
this little, this little hole that him and Tammy had

1721
01:31:04,079 --> 01:31:08,159
found it like a cave, and we sat there and

1722
01:31:08,239 --> 01:31:11,840
they had some some some firewood stashed in a hole.

1723
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:16,000
We built a little fire and had a little lunch,

1724
01:31:16,039 --> 01:31:18,920
and then we got out and we left our stuff

1725
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:25,279
and started walking around and we found some indentations, some

1726
01:31:25,399 --> 01:31:29,520
dugouts in the ground, and it was almost like and

1727
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:32,319
there was little mounds. There was a mount and a

1728
01:31:32,399 --> 01:31:36,000
dug a dugout, and we found how many of them,

1729
01:31:36,039 --> 01:31:36,840
like twenty.

1730
01:31:37,159 --> 01:31:40,520
Speaker 7: Oh, there's a bunch of I don't know what they are.

1731
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:43,439
I really can't. You know this this you know, those

1732
01:31:44,279 --> 01:31:46,920
this explanation of there's a way to beyond Bigfoot.

1733
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:49,359
Speaker 2: Probably this is something that's kind of weird that we

1734
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:54,439
found and and Tammy stepped down in it, and it

1735
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:56,000
was about three foot.

1736
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 7: Together, like it looks like they took the ground, dug

1737
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:01,239
it out and made these mounds. And some of them

1738
01:32:01,279 --> 01:32:04,399
have rocks stand at the end of them. So I'm

1739
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:06,920
talking to Tammy about this. You know, hey, what could

1740
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,239
these things? You know, could he's be Native American mounds

1741
01:32:09,319 --> 01:32:11,680
or something like that. We're just you know, because Tammy's

1742
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:14,880
you know, she's part Native American, and we're talking back

1743
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:18,760
and forth. I turn around. Here's Danny with his walking

1744
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:23,439
sticks stand on the top of one. I'm poking, poking

1745
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,680
down in this thing, and I'm like, man, you're gonna

1746
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:28,319
bring bad juji on all those seeming to.

1747
01:32:28,359 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 9: Wake up something you don't want. For sure.

1748
01:32:32,319 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 2: I'm there holding it, you know.

1749
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 6: He said.

1750
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:36,239
Speaker 7: They're rubbing this cross now and like and.

1751
01:32:36,199 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 2: Then I turn around, you know, and and they go

1752
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,159
over to this other area. And I've been down and

1753
01:32:41,199 --> 01:32:44,439
I pick up this rock and it was just a

1754
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:46,399
flat rock and it was stuck down in the ground

1755
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:49,640
like this, and listen, what are you doing? He said?

1756
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:54,600
Speaker 3: That could be a headstone, right, Danny.

1757
01:32:55,039 --> 01:32:58,640
Speaker 7: But but the area, the area that it's in, I mean,

1758
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:00,680
I'm sure if you're into all the kind of strange stuff,

1759
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:03,159
you've probably heard of the Chestnut Ridge area that runs

1760
01:33:03,199 --> 01:33:05,880
through Pennsylvania and stuff like that. Well, where we're at

1761
01:33:06,039 --> 01:33:09,159
is that is the very southern tip of the Chestnut Ridge.

1762
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,680
So there have been different sightings, you know, bigfoot sightings.

1763
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:18,760
There's been you know, old other stories of of I

1764
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:20,680
don' won't say lake monster, but there was a river

1765
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:24,079
monsters supposedly they called it. They called it the Blue Holes.

1766
01:33:24,159 --> 01:33:25,600
Speaker 2: That what the heck? What's it called?

1767
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:29,199
Speaker 7: The Cheat Lake monster or Cheat River Monster? UFO sidings

1768
01:33:29,239 --> 01:33:32,840
is all supposed to happen this but there's been multiple

1769
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:40,600
bigfoot sightings in this area, and it's it's it's weird

1770
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:44,720
that there is because it not too far from it,

1771
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:48,920
it's relatively densely populated. I mean, it's Cheat Lake is

1772
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:53,159
like a sub division part of Morgantown where the WU

1773
01:33:53,279 --> 01:33:56,640
University and all that stuff is that. But for some reason,

1774
01:33:56,680 --> 01:34:01,720
there's the reason I think there is is because this

1775
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:03,640
property that's on top of this hill where we go

1776
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:08,479
is all WU properties. So it's technically public, but it's

1777
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,680
also private, I guess you'd say, because there's no development

1778
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:14,800
on it. It backs up to the Coopers Rock State Forest.

1779
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:19,920
It also that backs up to a very large stone quarry,

1780
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:22,640
a couple of them actually, that one in West Virginia,

1781
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:26,560
one in Pennsylvania that owned thousands of acres. It also

1782
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,279
then it backs up to just on the other side

1783
01:34:29,319 --> 01:34:32,000
of that is Forbes State Forest in Pennsylvania, which is

1784
01:34:32,079 --> 01:34:34,520
thousands of acres, which is kind of one of the

1785
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:38,079
hot spots for the Effayette County area of Pennsylvania. So

1786
01:34:38,159 --> 01:34:40,680
it's all like in this straight line. Also on that

1787
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:46,760
southern tip of the region, and there's a right of

1788
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:49,000
ways that come through there. There's rivers that come through.

1789
01:34:49,239 --> 01:34:52,479
So it's absolutely a wonderful place for one of these

1790
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:55,840
things to be. You know, there's travel, there's food, there's shelter,

1791
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:59,359
there's everything in this one area within like a fifteen

1792
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:02,560
so square or a mile area, and and and it's just,

1793
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,880
you know, an absolutely gorgeous place to be in a

1794
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:08,439
fun place to be, except certain times years when you

1795
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:10,119
got to worry about the bears and snakes.

1796
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 2: He just mentioned something that that one of the first

1797
01:35:14,039 --> 01:35:16,720
few things he said, whenever you go into an area,

1798
01:35:17,279 --> 01:35:22,079
look for food, any type of food. So its not

1799
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:24,319
a lot of people think, you know, deer is the

1800
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:32,960
number one. It could be anything. It could be deer, fish, snakes, ground, squirrels, berries, different.

1801
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 14: Grubs, grubs, yeahs, lizards, crawled ads, different kinds of of greens.

1802
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 1: Uh.

1803
01:35:45,199 --> 01:35:47,119
Speaker 2: He I didn't know this. And he told me about

1804
01:35:47,199 --> 01:35:51,760
skunk cabbage. Yea, and up there were camping. There's a

1805
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:58,520
skunk cabbage forest all well, so.

1806
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 3: I was talking. We were talking to Marie Dumont down

1807
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:07,000
in Florida last week and they they I forgot what

1808
01:36:07,039 --> 01:36:10,399
the plant they had, but she had a picture of

1809
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:12,560
it tied up and hung in this tree, and it

1810
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:15,359
reminded me of like when we secure tobacco and stuff

1811
01:36:15,399 --> 01:36:18,239
like that, and you know, saving it and keeping it

1812
01:36:18,319 --> 01:36:22,119
up away from whatever, and so a lot of this

1813
01:36:22,159 --> 01:36:25,920
stuff you're mentioned and has nutritional value and a lot

1814
01:36:26,159 --> 01:36:29,800
you know, and we probably, I guarantee, we could survive

1815
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:31,439
off of it if we had to, if we knew

1816
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:35,159
what it was. But that's that's that's the thing where

1817
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:40,359
you know, when I first started talking to people, I'm guilty, y'all.

1818
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:43,960
I'm telling on myself. I'm like the one I saw,

1819
01:36:44,079 --> 01:36:47,159
people like, how big was it? I'm putting an estimate

1820
01:36:47,199 --> 01:36:50,640
on it somewhere between seven and nine hundred two thousand

1821
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:52,800
pounds because I don't know what. I've never seen no

1822
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:54,600
bigfoot weight. I know what a hog looks like, and

1823
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:57,000
I can tell you proximately for a bear or something

1824
01:36:57,079 --> 01:37:00,119
like that, something like that that you've seen and you've

1825
01:37:00,119 --> 01:37:03,640
seen them made right. So I was one of the people,

1826
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:07,319
I'm thinking, how do they are there enough deer and

1827
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:10,760
squirrels and stuff. I wasn't even thinking about her before,

1828
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:14,800
you know, uh, it just yeah. But I had a

1829
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:17,880
guy that I knew was taught well, he saw one digging,

1830
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:20,920
sitting down and digging, and it was he said, I

1831
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:25,079
don't know what it was, grubs or something and y'all.

1832
01:37:25,079 --> 01:37:28,760
This so this got me to thinking, like sometimes you

1833
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:32,439
hear a thud, you know, a slap or whatever, and

1834
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:36,239
uh so this thinking outside the box or spit botting

1835
01:37:36,319 --> 01:37:39,279
up against the wall. I'm thinking, Okay, I've kind of

1836
01:37:39,319 --> 01:37:43,079
heard that thud before, and some people say it's wood

1837
01:37:43,079 --> 01:37:44,880
on wood or whatever, and I'm like, what if it's

1838
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:49,239
What if it's one slapping a tree to see if

1839
01:37:49,279 --> 01:37:52,880
it's hollow, maybe there's raccoons inside or it knows there

1840
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:56,600
might be or insects, right, yeah, right.

1841
01:37:56,760 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 2: Like well on trees, some people think, you know they

1842
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:04,039
beck on trees to make a hole to live. Oh,

1843
01:38:04,199 --> 01:38:05,720
they dig get insects out of the.

1844
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:07,319
Speaker 3: Dirty digging it out right, well.

1845
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:09,319
Speaker 2: And you never digging, I mean it could have been

1846
01:38:09,399 --> 01:38:10,479
digging for roots.

1847
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:11,239
Speaker 3: M h.

1848
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:14,319
Speaker 7: There was an encounter on Sasrus Chronicles where a guy

1849
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:19,840
had he witnessed when I'm slapping a tree and and yeah,

1850
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:23,159
and if I remember right, he slaps the tree and

1851
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:26,119
a coon or apostle comes out and grabs a coon.

1852
01:38:26,199 --> 01:38:28,399
If I remember, I don't remember what episode. Oh wow,

1853
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:31,680
But I've always said like like you said, there's you know,

1854
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:34,840
if they slap the tree. I don't believe they do

1855
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:38,560
the wooden knocks like what people think they do. I

1856
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:41,920
don't think that is, at least not in our area.

1857
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:44,479
I think that maybe if they do anything, it's more

1858
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:47,760
maybe a rock clack. But as far as the noise

1859
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:51,000
you hear, I think it's something they do physically somehow

1860
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:53,880
with their body. Whether it's whether it's a mouthpop or

1861
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:55,960
whether it's the thing that I don't know if you've

1862
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:58,520
ever seen anybody do it like you know, and it

1863
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:00,880
makes that noise, but it can do it, and it

1864
01:39:01,239 --> 01:39:03,800
sounds like it would like and it echoes everywhere.

1865
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 2: I mean.

1866
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 7: The reason I say that, the reason I say that

1867
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:12,439
is because if I say, Roger, okay, I'm gonna send

1868
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:14,319
you into the woods. I want you to walk until

1869
01:39:14,359 --> 01:39:17,079
you hear me blow this whistle. When you hear me

1870
01:39:17,079 --> 01:39:19,079
blow that whistle, I want you to pick up a

1871
01:39:19,079 --> 01:39:22,119
stick off the ground, hit a tree and make that noise.

1872
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:25,119
There's ninety nine point nine percent there's no way you're

1873
01:39:25,159 --> 01:39:27,520
gonna do it because whatever you find on the ground

1874
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:29,000
is gonna be a punky piece of wood, and what

1875
01:39:29,039 --> 01:39:31,159
are you're gonna hit on you the tree you're gonna.

1876
01:39:31,039 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 3: Hit, most of it's gonna break noise, and it's it.

1877
01:39:35,399 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 7: Most like you're not going to hit a dead tree.

1878
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:38,319
You're gonna hear a hit a live tree. It's not

1879
01:39:38,319 --> 01:39:41,479
gonna give us out. So I believe that they do

1880
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:43,840
something else to cause that.

1881
01:39:44,239 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 3: Well, I have heard this, and like Danny, I got

1882
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:48,760
in with a you know, a group of people of

1883
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:51,560
people's been doing this for decades, and I was told

1884
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:53,600
to watch out for it or how to tell the difference.

1885
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:59,920
And one Heather and I were at their hot spot

1886
01:40:00,119 --> 01:40:04,600
put it that way, and one day I heard what

1887
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:09,399
sounded like a tree knock. But as soon as I

1888
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:11,800
heard it, I'm like, wait a minute, that's a mouthpop

1889
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:15,479
because I heard the resonance in the sinus cavity. And

1890
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:17,800
for it to have that, for me to hear that,

1891
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:20,800
it had to be a pretty big throat and sinus cavity.

1892
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:25,079
So yeah, that that. I exited pretty quickly on that one.

1893
01:40:25,159 --> 01:40:26,720
And I said, and hang around.

1894
01:40:27,319 --> 01:40:30,399
Speaker 2: But I have a night stick in my backpack, and

1895
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:32,880
he makes fun of me, but I do it. You know,

1896
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:36,520
we just do it too mess around and then also

1897
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:37,279
for protection.

1898
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:41,840
Speaker 3: But that but Danny, that shows you, and that's probably

1899
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:45,159
how less learned it. You You you have to find

1900
01:40:45,199 --> 01:40:48,439
the perfect tree to make it sound right. You can't

1901
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:50,319
just pick any tree and do it. If it's got

1902
01:40:50,399 --> 01:40:52,960
dick bark on it, and you know, it's just gone thud.

1903
01:40:53,359 --> 01:40:56,279
Speaker 2: We tried it one day. We tried picking up sticks

1904
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:59,199
and hitting trees, you know, to try to get a sound,

1905
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:02,039
and we never could find anything right.

1906
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:05,159
Speaker 3: It almost would have to be a like a hackberry

1907
01:41:05,239 --> 01:41:10,720
thin bark something, because we heard one two weeks ago

1908
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,359
at the 'l BL and I looked at Heather and

1909
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:16,880
hardly anybody was there. But it was too perfect. Yeah,

1910
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:21,680
it sounded like a baseball bat on a skint piece

1911
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:23,399
of oak, you know what I mean. It was almost

1912
01:41:23,399 --> 01:41:26,079
too perfect. It didn't sound like a mouthpop, it didn't

1913
01:41:26,119 --> 01:41:30,680
sound like it sounded like legit hardwood on hardwood. And

1914
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:34,520
so I was skeptical of it because it sounded too perfect.

1915
01:41:35,279 --> 01:41:39,560
Speaker 7: Well, and then that leads into if they are doing

1916
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:44,439
wood knocks like that, you know, if they do know

1917
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:48,199
how to do it, that puts them in a different

1918
01:41:48,199 --> 01:41:52,840
realm with some people think they're just a stupid eight.

1919
01:41:53,319 --> 01:41:55,079
You know, they have to have some kind of intelligence.

1920
01:41:55,119 --> 01:41:57,239
They know what would to pick up, they know what

1921
01:41:57,319 --> 01:41:59,560
tree to hit, you know, in order to do that.

1922
01:42:00,159 --> 01:42:02,600
So that's another reason why I kind of like back

1923
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:04,600
away from the woodknock stuff, and I think it's more

1924
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:06,399
of a physical thing that they do.

1925
01:42:07,119 --> 01:42:09,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I tell you what I did here. I tell

1926
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:11,800
what I did here. One time, my son can back

1927
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,439
me up. I had an audio going. You can hear

1928
01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:17,640
a little bit of it. I didn't know what I

1929
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:22,399
was hearing it first, but I actually heard we had

1930
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,640
one throwing a fit, a small one over here, yelling

1931
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:31,000
something behind us, and what I heard sounded like it

1932
01:42:31,079 --> 01:42:35,119
picked up a dead log, drug it to it and

1933
01:42:35,159 --> 01:42:38,199
got the balance, hit a tree and we heard the

1934
01:42:38,319 --> 01:42:41,800
end break and helicopter through the limbs and bounce. So

1935
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:47,119
that was a that was a kind of like a

1936
01:42:47,159 --> 01:42:49,079
bluff charge and a fit, you know what I mean

1937
01:42:49,159 --> 01:42:51,520
that it was mumbling and walking in the circle. So

1938
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:56,079
I've heard stuff like that, but I'm gonna be honest

1939
01:42:56,119 --> 01:42:57,920
with you. I've heard the rock clacks. I've heard the

1940
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:00,560
mouth pops.

1941
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1942
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 3: Well we heard a whistle one night and my son,

1943
01:43:04,079 --> 01:43:06,760
he's my sound guy, and I'm like, that ain't what

1944
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:08,720
I think it is, is it? He said, no, it's worse.

1945
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:11,199
It's a mama mountain lion calling for young We need

1946
01:43:11,199 --> 01:43:11,960
to get to the truck.

1947
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:15,600
Speaker 2: But that you put you put up there with me

1948
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:16,840
in a parabolic mic.

1949
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 7: Yeaheah.

1950
01:43:18,319 --> 01:43:23,520
Speaker 2: That same weekend last April, that one wait, let's took

1951
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:27,479
us to this one area that it was a piece

1952
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:29,479
of problem. You can see how steep the hill is.

1953
01:43:30,159 --> 01:43:33,039
Speaker 7: Yeah, right, that doesn't even give it to justice. Or

1954
01:43:35,479 --> 01:43:38,520
he found a little little flat spot on the logging road.

1955
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:44,119
Speaker 2: And I was where I was sitting, and probably you were,

1956
01:43:44,159 --> 01:43:45,960
what about twenty five yards from me?

1957
01:43:46,399 --> 01:43:46,840
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1958
01:43:47,119 --> 01:43:50,199
Speaker 2: Uh? And then West was about twenty five yards up

1959
01:43:50,239 --> 01:43:53,760
from him, and you can see how you know, the

1960
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:57,079
lighting is right there. It's it's getting kind of close

1961
01:43:57,159 --> 01:44:03,239
to dark. And I'm sitting there listening, and all of

1962
01:44:03,319 --> 01:44:07,600
a sudden we heard a whistle and we're all looking

1963
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:10,399
at each other and doing the two fingers in the

1964
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:13,760
mouth and just looking at each other and like, what's

1965
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,199
going on? I keyed the mic. As soon as I

1966
01:44:16,279 --> 01:44:20,439
keyed that mic, it was like it did it again,

1967
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:22,600
and it was like it was standing in front of me.

1968
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:26,720
But we never did see anything. But Wes said he

1969
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:31,359
saw something kind of black Yeah, a shadow about twenty

1970
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:33,560
twenty five yards in front of him.

1971
01:44:34,359 --> 01:44:37,199
Speaker 3: How was the hearing it with your ears? How was

1972
01:44:37,239 --> 01:44:38,960
the volume on that? Was it?

1973
01:44:39,039 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 7: I could? I could, My son and I were setting

1974
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:44,920
in one spot and Wes Wes probably heard it better

1975
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:48,119
than anybody because it came from his direction up above

1976
01:44:48,199 --> 01:44:51,239
it or like below him, so he heard it better anybody.

1977
01:44:51,279 --> 01:44:54,359
But it was And I'm pretty hard hearing, hard of

1978
01:44:54,399 --> 01:44:57,319
hearing when it comes to higher pitch noises. I was

1979
01:44:57,359 --> 01:44:59,359
able to hear, and my son heard it. Danny heard

1980
01:44:59,359 --> 01:45:01,880
it and then did it again like he then he say,

1981
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:04,199
you said he keyed to mic and he we all

1982
01:45:04,239 --> 01:45:06,039
heard it again, and he just looks at me like

1983
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:08,720
but we we didn't see anything. We couldn't see anything,

1984
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:11,199
but it did. It did drop down quite a bit

1985
01:45:11,239 --> 01:45:14,960
into a valley. H it got it got a little

1986
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:18,239
thicker down in that area. But to this day we

1987
01:45:18,319 --> 01:45:22,000
still don't know. Yeah, I mean it means, yeah, it

1988
01:45:22,039 --> 01:45:23,880
could be something else, but it was pretty neat that

1989
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:25,720
we heard this whistle in the woods.

1990
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you did you catch that on the audio?

1991
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:34,439
Speaker 2: Danny? I didn't have. I didn't have except for record.

1992
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:38,439
Speaker 3: Oh and yeah, when it happens yeah, and I.

1993
01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 2: Just sat there. As soon as I keyed the mic

1994
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:44,520
to listen for, you know, any kind of movement in

1995
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:48,840
and to leave it whistled the whistle sound again wherever

1996
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:52,319
I mean it was, and it was from where West

1997
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:55,640
was with. Like I said, left was about twenty twenty

1998
01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:57,720
five yards away from me, and he was about twenty

1999
01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:01,359
twenty five yards up and it was down below him,

2000
01:46:02,359 --> 01:46:06,880
and I mean we just it didn't scare us. We

2001
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:08,920
just centered and it was just really cool to hear

2002
01:46:09,359 --> 01:46:12,720
something like we didn't know what it was or even

2003
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:15,880
fully the direction. I mean, you couldn't tell, but it

2004
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:16,520
was really.

2005
01:46:16,279 --> 01:46:20,039
Speaker 7: Neat well, I mean I wasn't I wasn't really expecting

2006
01:46:20,079 --> 01:46:22,039
to hear sound because we could see so far. We

2007
01:46:22,039 --> 01:46:23,039
didn't couldn't see anything.

2008
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:25,359
Speaker 2: It was an awesome deer stand.

2009
01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:28,079
Speaker 7: Yeah, We're just sitting there and listening and listening, and

2010
01:46:28,359 --> 01:46:31,560
all of a sudden we hear this whistling noise and

2011
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:32,319
it was pretty cool.

2012
01:46:32,399 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 2: It was cool.

2013
01:46:33,159 --> 01:46:38,479
Speaker 3: One's that's that's what me and my daddy used call

2014
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:41,359
our wood a wood sign language make it up right

2015
01:46:41,359 --> 01:46:44,960
there like what what what he said? Free my lip?

2016
01:46:45,119 --> 01:46:49,479
But anyway, uh, yeah, the terrain like right there. If

2017
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:52,239
you take that terrain that you have with all that

2018
01:46:52,399 --> 01:46:55,560
rocks and that cover, that's kind of what we have

2019
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:58,279
on the north end of this county, but flatter, Uh,

2020
01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:01,439
the south end has the big hills and all. It's

2021
01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:03,239
a really weird county.

2022
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 2: That was kind of the road. It was like an

2023
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:10,359
old log road that went downs like this down the

2024
01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:14,359
hill and we went down to the bottom and found

2025
01:47:14,359 --> 01:47:18,199
a spring and started looking around the spring and around

2026
01:47:18,239 --> 01:47:20,079
the edges of the spring, you know, trying to find

2027
01:47:20,079 --> 01:47:21,960
some footprints.

2028
01:47:22,279 --> 01:47:25,359
Speaker 7: And that's where we found the other little rockstack. By

2029
01:47:25,359 --> 01:47:28,119
the spring. There was another one like it was marking

2030
01:47:28,199 --> 01:47:30,840
the water source right right at the right at the bottom,

2031
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,520
like where this road come down, which the road had been.

2032
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:37,039
I mean it was probably one hundred years old old log.

2033
01:47:37,039 --> 01:47:39,680
It road have been hundred years old, but you can

2034
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:41,920
still follow it through there. And it got down and

2035
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:44,439
it cut down around the turn and there's a spring

2036
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:46,880
right out of the hill and you see this little rockstack,

2037
01:47:47,119 --> 01:47:49,199
you know, like right next to the spring, like it

2038
01:47:49,279 --> 01:47:54,119
was something that was there marking it. But where the

2039
01:47:55,239 --> 01:47:59,079
elevation right there again it is pretty high. That's we

2040
01:47:59,079 --> 01:48:02,159
were right next to the second highest elevation or point

2041
01:48:02,199 --> 01:48:06,680
in West Virginia. So we were close to I thinks no, no,

2042
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:12,079
is it Port Mount, Crown Mount whatever it is, four thousand,

2043
01:48:12,199 --> 01:48:14,319
seven hundred feet. We were probably at forty five to

2044
01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:17,039
forty six hundred feet where we were at, So.

2045
01:48:17,199 --> 01:48:18,800
Speaker 2: That was the one that was across the hill.

2046
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:20,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, right over on the other side.

2047
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:27,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well it Danny and leask. Do y'all tell

2048
01:48:27,239 --> 01:48:29,479
people where they can find you or get in touch

2049
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:30,800
with you if you want to do that. If you

2050
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:34,560
have a website or a Facebook page or anything that

2051
01:48:35,239 --> 01:48:38,840
you're welcome to pitch it on here if you want to,

2052
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:42,000
because we appreciate y'all coming on and talking to us

2053
01:48:42,359 --> 01:48:43,920
well on Facebook.

2054
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:47,199
Speaker 2: I don't have anything major, just and you can see

2055
01:48:47,239 --> 01:48:50,840
me on old Line Cryptis on Tuesday nights.

2056
01:48:51,159 --> 01:48:53,600
Speaker 3: Yep, you was on their last Tuesday, wasn't you? I

2057
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:56,800
think was that you? Yeah? I watched any shows. I

2058
01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:58,479
try to support everybody. I can't remember.

2059
01:48:59,079 --> 01:49:04,439
Speaker 2: I'm almost uh and Jeff and Uh. That's that's about.

2060
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:05,560
That's about the thing I got.

2061
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 7: Well, if you've had any any sightys in West Virginia,

2062
01:49:09,039 --> 01:49:11,600
you can reach out to me on the face on

2063
01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:16,439
my Facebook West Virginia cripton strange encounters, but it's probably

2064
01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:18,880
easier to email me at w V Case three or

2065
01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:23,319
four at Yahoo dot com because for some reason, I

2066
01:49:23,319 --> 01:49:26,359
don't know if anybody's ever into that. On Facebook, you

2067
01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:28,800
have to have a whole separate app, like it's I

2068
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:31,000
don't know what it's called now, but to actually see

2069
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:38,079
your messages anymore when you have a bigger page.

2070
01:49:36,159 --> 01:49:37,560
Speaker 9: The business suite or whatever.

2071
01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:42,039
Speaker 7: Yeah, the business suite. Yeah, it's a pain that to

2072
01:49:42,159 --> 01:49:43,359
us too. Yeah.

2073
01:49:43,399 --> 01:49:45,520
Speaker 3: I had I had a Yahoo account one time and

2074
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:49,119
had it rocking and rolling. It just disappeared. I don't

2075
01:49:49,119 --> 01:49:51,399
know what happened to it. And I had all my business,

2076
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:53,640
you know, comingto that. I'm like, I don't know. I

2077
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:56,760
had was in real estate and it just disappeared on me.

2078
01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:59,960
I don't know, I don't know. It's crazy. Technology is great,

2079
01:50:00,039 --> 01:50:02,560
but when when it don't work, it's aggravating.

2080
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a problem with some of the some of

2081
01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:05,640
the stuff right now.

2082
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:09,079
Speaker 7: Myself Facebook, I don't know what happened with Facebook a

2083
01:50:09,119 --> 01:50:11,600
few years ago. Like I had my personal page and

2084
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:14,119
I had my West Virginia case page and they were

2085
01:50:14,119 --> 01:50:17,600
both just like personal pages. All of a sudden, Facebook

2086
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:20,039
decided to take the larger page of the West Virginia

2087
01:50:20,119 --> 01:50:23,000
case page and turn it into like a business page.

2088
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:25,239
I guess they called it. So when they did that,

2089
01:50:25,399 --> 01:50:28,720
you can't receive messages through it. You have to go

2090
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:32,079
through a business suit, sweet suit, whatever it's called, to

2091
01:50:32,119 --> 01:50:34,560
see messages and everything else. So a lot of times

2092
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:39,439
I don't get I don't get any up or not

2093
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:43,720
updates announcements that I've gotten messages. So it's easier just

2094
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:48,399
to go through WV just the WV case c as

2095
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:50,920
three or four at yah dot com. That's usually where

2096
01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:51,840
a lot of people email me.

2097
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 2: Now yeah, I just have people hit me up on Facebook,

2098
01:50:55,079 --> 01:50:57,680
or I'll be at work it's broken here in town

2099
01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:03,479
and start talking to people or and or wearing a

2100
01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:04,640
shirt or something.

2101
01:51:05,199 --> 01:51:07,000
Speaker 3: And that's what I say. We talked about that early,

2102
01:51:07,079 --> 01:51:09,439
and it amazing. You can wear a shirt and people come.

2103
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:11,720
Some people will look at you kind of side eye,

2104
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:14,159
but then the others like, oh man, you believe in bigfoot?

2105
01:51:14,199 --> 01:51:15,119
I said, well, I have no.

2106
01:51:15,159 --> 01:51:19,680
Speaker 2: Choice, look at me in and say are you sure?

2107
01:51:21,239 --> 01:51:23,159
Speaker 7: The one The ones I like are the ones that

2108
01:51:23,239 --> 01:51:24,960
look at you side eyed and you're like, you know,

2109
01:51:25,079 --> 01:51:26,680
and they'll come up and talk to you. You really believe

2110
01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:28,880
in that stuff, and you'll talk to him and you'll

2111
01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:30,760
get to listen to you for a little bit and

2112
01:51:30,760 --> 01:51:33,079
they get comfortable with you, and all of a sudden

2113
01:51:33,159 --> 01:51:36,039
they'll go, you know there was that one time, and

2114
01:51:36,039 --> 01:51:38,560
they'll start telling you their story or somebody else that

2115
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:40,119
or you know, they know their story.

2116
01:51:40,399 --> 01:51:44,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, So so how many people less have you talked

2117
01:51:44,199 --> 01:51:47,399
to her? Danny Like, I've said this before many times,

2118
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:50,399
but oh, you believe in big Bigfoot? And what I

2119
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:53,000
always come up with, I'm like, well, yes, well have

2120
01:51:53,079 --> 01:51:55,600
you ever had any ghost stories or anything happen to you?

2121
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:57,880
And then they'll tell you they can't believe in something

2122
01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:01,399
bigfoot flesh and blood. But Grandma that's been dead for

2123
01:52:01,399 --> 01:52:03,800
fifteen years, they saw her cooking breakfast one morning, you

2124
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:06,720
know what I mean, don't just they'll let loose for

2125
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:07,560
those stories.

2126
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 9: So, yeah, we UFOs or anything else.

2127
01:52:11,079 --> 01:52:15,399
Speaker 2: But for one of the reason is just too got

2128
01:52:15,439 --> 01:52:21,000
a relative that has kind of like, nah, you're at

2129
01:52:21,039 --> 01:52:26,079
a at my birthday party last year. This person that's

2130
01:52:26,199 --> 01:52:30,399
very very close to me said in the sixties me

2131
01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:33,319
and I'm will say, Bobby, I don't remember what the

2132
01:52:33,359 --> 01:52:37,279
guy's name worked getting ready to climb on a dozer.

2133
01:52:37,359 --> 01:52:40,279
They was working at a high on a highway in Virginia

2134
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:42,840
and said, hey, come over here and look what I

2135
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:45,640
look check this out. And he said he went over

2136
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:49,359
and looked. There was this massive footprint. And they got

2137
01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:52,399
looking and there was several of them that whatever this

2138
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:57,640
was that had a massive footprint was climbing around on

2139
01:52:57,680 --> 01:53:02,159
this dozer piece of equipment that that they had sitting there. Yeah,

2140
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:05,439
this person doesn't say anything else about it, but you know,

2141
01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:06,920
I'll stuff around it.

2142
01:53:07,359 --> 01:53:09,640
Speaker 3: There's no telling how many stories like that. I want

2143
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:11,600
to say something that quick Jerry with the old line

2144
01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:16,560
cryptis it's a prayers to anyone in or near Enny, Oklahoma.

2145
01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:19,600
Apparently there's there's bad weather and tornadoes and we want

2146
01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:21,600
to send out prayers to everybody that's in the path

2147
01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:24,119
of that because that's one thing that I am really

2148
01:53:24,239 --> 01:53:24,960
terrified fight.

2149
01:53:25,159 --> 01:53:25,520
Speaker 2: H is.

2150
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:28,960
Speaker 3: One of my first memories was the tornado. So yeah,

2151
01:53:29,159 --> 01:53:30,680
we I hope everybody's okay.

2152
01:53:31,239 --> 01:53:37,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're talking about everybody talking about you know, what

2153
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:39,399
we're into and stuff like that, and they come up

2154
01:53:39,399 --> 01:53:42,920
to you. I got a very supportive work team and

2155
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:46,079
this is what the seriously, this is what they made

2156
01:53:46,119 --> 01:53:49,720
for me? Uh I think it was last year somewhere

2157
01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:53,960
around my birthday.

2158
01:53:55,239 --> 01:53:58,159
Speaker 3: That is cool, that's what does it say on the

2159
01:53:58,279 --> 01:54:01,119
what did that other things say there on the back?

2160
01:54:02,279 --> 01:54:02,840
Or is that.

2161
01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:07,880
Speaker 10: Just a scrap at West Virginia and uh yeah, big.

2162
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:12,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah. I'm the office manager for a pretty good

2163
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:16,960
size all the recycling and scrap business.

2164
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:21,399
Speaker 3: So see, you you've got them comfortable enough to get

2165
01:54:21,439 --> 01:54:23,960
you a shirt, So maybe you're kind of uh changing

2166
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:24,880
their views.

2167
01:54:25,199 --> 01:54:28,920
Speaker 2: I know, like my store manager and and some of

2168
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:33,319
the people I work with, and now they like understand

2169
01:54:33,359 --> 01:54:36,520
they they're kind of excited that it's like it's like, hey,

2170
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:38,319
you know, it's kind of cool that you do this,

2171
01:54:39,479 --> 01:54:42,479
and they're not. I mean, it's like they're on the fence,

2172
01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:46,239
most of them, and then some of them are on

2173
01:54:46,279 --> 01:54:47,800
the side of the fence, like nah.

2174
01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 3: That ain't But but I think there's more people on

2175
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:53,399
the fence now than there were, you know, they were

2176
01:54:53,399 --> 01:54:57,079
nomally whatever. Because and people ask all the time, I'm

2177
01:54:57,079 --> 01:55:00,119
sure y'all get it, where's all the proof, where's all

2178
01:55:00,159 --> 01:55:04,640
the proves? I just dropped my head and like, uh yeah,

2179
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:06,439
put it in the work, like we all did you

2180
01:55:06,439 --> 01:55:08,840
know what I mean, Danny put it into work, met Mett.

2181
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:11,119
Last he goes out.

2182
01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:14,319
Speaker 10: The magical things that we carry in our hands.

2183
01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 2: For you, right. Yeah. The first thing is like do

2184
01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:19,319
you have any pictures? It's like, no, I mean I've

2185
01:55:19,399 --> 01:55:22,720
I've got pictures of stuff that I've seen and stuff,

2186
01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:25,600
but you know that I've witnessed. Wait, but I don't

2187
01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:27,760
have any pictures. You know, one come up to me

2188
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:29,600
and say, hey, let's do a selfish.

2189
01:55:29,479 --> 01:55:32,399
Speaker 3: That's right, it's yeah, we had any had that.

2190
01:55:32,479 --> 01:55:34,399
Speaker 9: They look at you and be like, oh, that's fake.

2191
01:55:34,479 --> 01:55:36,319
You photoshop that it no matter what.

2192
01:55:36,439 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2193
01:55:37,479 --> 01:55:40,159
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well when somebody says that do you have any pictures?

2194
01:55:40,159 --> 01:55:41,720
Most of the time like because they were like, there

2195
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:43,279
you have a cell phone with you at all times?

2196
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:46,159
And I'm like, yeah, yeah I do. I don't have

2197
01:55:46,199 --> 01:55:48,560
it on or don't have it like ready to go

2198
01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:51,319
at all times. So I'll challenge them. And I do

2199
01:55:51,399 --> 01:55:53,119
this when I speak to people, you know, when I

2200
01:55:53,159 --> 01:55:56,199
do like the Library talks and in the presentation, I'll

2201
01:55:56,199 --> 01:55:58,199
put Harry into Henderson's face right in the middle of

2202
01:55:58,239 --> 01:56:00,760
that presentation and I'll tell of them and said, hey,

2203
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:03,079
when you see bigfoot in this presentation, I want you

2204
01:56:03,119 --> 01:56:05,760
to get your phone out, take a picture, to take

2205
01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:07,479
a picture, and the first one to give me the

2206
01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:09,279
picture you know, I'll give you. I'll give you a

2207
01:56:09,279 --> 01:56:12,039
book that's awesome. I've had one person do it, and

2208
01:56:12,039 --> 01:56:15,600
I swear she cheated, I really do uh. And the

2209
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:17,359
reason I do that? And I asked him, I said,

2210
01:56:17,359 --> 01:56:19,079
why why do you think I've done do that in

2211
01:56:19,079 --> 01:56:22,159
this presentation? And they'll usually look at me like deer

2212
01:56:22,159 --> 01:56:24,399
in the headlights. I said, because the average sighting lasts

2213
01:56:24,399 --> 01:56:27,880
anywhere for three to five seconds. I said, that video

2214
01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:29,960
was right there or that picture levels up there for

2215
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:32,800
five seconds. So I've challenged you to get your phone out,

2216
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:35,079
open your app, take a picture within that five seconds.

2217
01:56:35,319 --> 01:56:37,960
And I said, only one person has done it. And

2218
01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:40,279
then and then a lot of people just like understand,

2219
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:43,079
you know what where we're coming from. Why we don't

2220
01:56:43,119 --> 01:56:45,640
have pictures all the time? Or these people with you know,

2221
01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:49,039
claim they have sightings don't have pictures because one, it

2222
01:56:49,119 --> 01:56:53,439
takes that long. Two, your your mind goes into your

2223
01:56:53,439 --> 01:56:56,279
brain just goes into like shut down mode or whatever.

2224
01:56:56,319 --> 01:56:58,359
You're trying to make sense of what's going on. So

2225
01:56:58,439 --> 01:57:00,159
it takes a while for you to reboot and and

2226
01:57:00,439 --> 01:57:03,920
and get back your conscious system. But you know, you

2227
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:06,399
know what I mean to understand, Hey, I need to

2228
01:57:06,399 --> 01:57:08,960
take a picture. Very seldom does that happen.

2229
01:57:09,359 --> 01:57:13,319
Speaker 3: Right, It's it's just even even with a and you

2230
01:57:13,399 --> 01:57:16,359
think about this, If it's a twenty second one up close,

2231
01:57:16,399 --> 01:57:17,600
you're fearing for your life.

2232
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, because you don't know what's gonna happen. My light.

2233
01:57:22,199 --> 01:57:26,000
Speaker 3: My light just went up, y'all. I'm sorry. That's about

2234
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:27,880
blinded me. Is like the lightning went off.

2235
01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:30,560
Speaker 9: I say, you get struck by lightning there for a.

2236
01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:34,199
Speaker 3: Second, y'all. It's it's been fun. We're coming up on

2237
01:57:34,199 --> 01:57:37,960
a few hours. And thank y'all so much. Danny, thank you, Les,

2238
01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:39,039
thank you, nice to meet you.

2239
01:57:39,119 --> 01:57:39,560
Speaker 7: Thank you.

2240
01:57:41,319 --> 01:57:44,680
Speaker 3: Everybody in chat. Thank y'all. I was showing pictures. You

2241
01:57:44,720 --> 01:57:46,600
justly want to show pictures. I can't. I can't see

2242
01:57:46,600 --> 01:57:50,199
the comment. So thank everybody for being here. Now here's

2243
01:57:50,199 --> 01:57:51,880
what we're gonna do. We're gonna do what we did

2244
01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:56,640
last week. I'm gonna show a play a song that

2245
01:57:56,680 --> 01:58:01,279
Doug and I did. I wrote it, he produced it.

2246
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:05,840
And this one here I'm very proud of because the

2247
01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:09,960
way he put it together just blew me away. So anyway,

2248
01:58:10,119 --> 01:58:13,800
everybody's listening on Spotify, it's Eli Colter and you can

2249
01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:18,119
find it free on YouTube, Spotify, iTunes, Amazon, It's like

2250
01:58:18,199 --> 01:58:20,479
forty different ones, but we do have it to be

2251
01:58:20,760 --> 01:58:24,479
available for free on YouTube. So I'm gonna play this

2252
01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:27,159
and the people that want to hang in can hang in.

2253
01:58:27,239 --> 01:58:30,840
People that don't won't hurt my feelings. But if you're

2254
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:33,279
in a car listening to this later, turn this one

2255
01:58:33,359 --> 01:58:35,840
up and then when I get done, we'll play the

2256
01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:39,239
outro and we'll we'll head on out here. But everybody

2257
01:58:39,279 --> 01:58:44,439
have a great weekend. Be safe. We'll keep on the storms. Yes, right, y'all,

2258
01:58:44,479 --> 01:58:46,439
stay in touch. I know Danny is stay in touch.

2259
01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 7: I just want to say too that there's two people

2260
01:58:49,600 --> 01:58:51,119
in the chat that I knew, Dave and Donnie. I

2261
01:58:51,199 --> 01:58:52,920
want to say, hey, guys, thanks for coming and supporting

2262
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:53,560
me and Danny.

2263
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:56,039
Speaker 3: Yep, thank you for coming in. We appreciate it too.

2264
01:58:57,479 --> 01:58:59,760
Speaker 2: I want to thank this man right here because he's

2265
01:58:59,800 --> 01:59:03,359
t me a lot and I appreciate him helping me.

2266
01:59:04,039 --> 01:59:08,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm proud. I'm I'm proud when somebody gets

2267
01:59:08,039 --> 01:59:10,800
into it and finds their people, because that's that seems

2268
01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:15,399
like what's happened. I'm not gonna let this slide. I did, say, Jerry,

2269
01:59:15,439 --> 01:59:17,680
see Jerry and Blackie making fun of me and Danny

2270
01:59:17,640 --> 01:59:20,359
and say we lot like twins. So I'm sorry Danny

2271
01:59:21,319 --> 01:59:29,159
that they pull it down there. All right, y'all have

2272
01:59:29,199 --> 01:59:32,840
a good night. All right, bye bye.

2273
01:59:46,479 --> 01:59:51,279
Speaker 5: What if I'm chasing something, I won't come.

2274
01:59:53,479 --> 01:59:57,159
Speaker 2: Eating, won't be in.

2275
02:00:00,439 --> 02:00:08,640
Speaker 5: I can't jove the dorfe scared, but I don't walked on.

2276
02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:17,520
That's where it all began. I held my eyebreath cross

2277
02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:18,680
the line.

2278
02:00:20,399 --> 02:00:22,960
Speaker 3: Scared, but I did it anyway.

2279
02:00:27,199 --> 02:00:37,319
Speaker 5: Scared, but I did it anyway. I wanted fat heat

2280
02:00:37,399 --> 02:00:41,319
in the show selfishness trow me, hadn't let it go.

2281
02:00:42,119 --> 02:00:44,039
Speaker 3: It wasn't stage.

2282
02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:45,159
Speaker 2: That stopped my facts.

2283
02:00:45,399 --> 02:00:50,359
Speaker 5: It was what I saw, staring back, fighting, no sin.

2284
02:00:51,079 --> 02:00:54,039
Speaker 3: I felt the wind, never looked bad.

2285
02:00:55,279 --> 02:00:57,720
Speaker 8: Scared, but I did it anyway.

2286
02:01:17,359 --> 02:01:22,520
Speaker 5: It's been years now, five folks changed.

2287
02:01:24,079 --> 02:01:25,800
Speaker 4: Called the fast.

2288
02:01:27,119 --> 02:01:28,680
Speaker 2: Now I don't know my name.

2289
02:01:30,960 --> 02:01:32,319
Speaker 6: They put me through.

2290
02:01:34,039 --> 02:01:42,600
Speaker 2: When it's their faces that moved these saws.

2291
02:01:45,239 --> 02:01:49,880
Speaker 3: I wanted fame. He did the show selfishness throw me?

2292
02:01:50,039 --> 02:01:51,199
Speaker 4: How to let it go?

2293
02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:55,039
Speaker 3: It wasn't the stage. That's not my tracks.

2294
02:01:55,239 --> 02:02:00,279
Speaker 5: It was what I saw staring back five most man,

2295
02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:03,920
I fell the wind, never looked bad.

2296
02:02:05,119 --> 02:02:06,039
Speaker 6: Scared, but I.

2297
02:02:06,159 --> 02:02:13,399
Speaker 5: Did it anyway, made in mine.

2298
02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:28,760
Speaker 11: Alason scared, but I did it anyway.

2299
02:02:47,399 --> 02:02:52,479
Speaker 3: All right, that is awesome, So thank you, Hey, Doug.

2300
02:02:52,640 --> 02:02:56,560
Doug is amazing, y'all. Y'all just don't know. But anyway,

2301
02:02:57,159 --> 02:02:59,960
y'all have a good weekend, Stay safe, be good bye.

2302
02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:16,920
Speaker 6: Down in the pines, where the water runs black, where

2303
02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:20,359
the moss sangs low and the night leans back. The

2304
02:03:20,399 --> 02:03:24,479
stores whisper about a shadow, tall, big feet moving where

2305
02:03:24,520 --> 02:03:25,680
the moon that fall.

2306
02:03:26,159 --> 02:03:28,840
Speaker 8: Some say it be some saved ghosts in the trees.

2307
02:03:29,239 --> 02:03:31,079
Some say it trouble blowing.

2308
02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:32,000
Speaker 2: In where the breeze.

2309
02:03:32,399 --> 02:03:35,000
Speaker 4: But around here, man, we know the call, or we

2310
02:03:35,199 --> 02:03:41,039
just call him friends. The squatching holler, So lie that

2311
02:03:42,520 --> 02:03:44,399
and the cat tell sick in.

2312
02:03:44,279 --> 02:03:49,840
Speaker 6: The nine birth time copperheads feeding here yorg the fall

2313
02:03:50,359 --> 02:03:52,479
that ain't on, and it ain't no.

2314
02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:56,239
Speaker 8: Dog when the creek gross cold and the shadows get taller.

2315
02:03:56,399 --> 02:03:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you grousing in the squatting all the whell.

2316
02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:03,199
Speaker 2: Legend wong getting a brain in fuddles. But I mind

2317
02:04:03,239 --> 02:04:05,199
your staffing and squatching.

2318
02:04:06,439 --> 02:04:26,520
Speaker 8: Where Boody tell me stories about the thing. Ain't saut

2319
02:04:26,600 --> 02:04:27,359
to ten.

2320
02:04:27,279 --> 02:04:31,039
Speaker 4: Foot high with a tomb, but y'all red eyes burning

2321
02:04:31,199 --> 02:04:33,520
like a summer's coat, least.

2322
02:04:33,399 --> 02:04:35,520
Speaker 2: Tracks big enough to swallow your soul.

2323
02:04:35,680 --> 02:04:39,279
Speaker 8: Of the old folks laugh saying, don't you fear could

2324
02:04:39,319 --> 02:04:42,479
have been living here for hundreds of years. Treat them

2325
02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:43,520
with respect.

2326
02:04:43,239 --> 02:04:46,199
Speaker 6: When the moon gets smaller, and they'll let you live

2327
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in squatching.

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02:04:47,319 --> 02:04:50,039
Speaker 2: Holler sold that fire.

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02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:52,239
Speaker 5: Let the swarm from roll.

2330
02:04:52,399 --> 02:04:55,279
Speaker 2: You can hear that beas right down in your soul.

2331
02:04:55,439 --> 02:04:58,560
Speaker 6: If you hear those drum from the river call it

2332
02:04:58,720 --> 02:05:01,520
ain't no boat fro balking the long.

2333
02:05:01,439 --> 02:05:05,239
Speaker 2: Little swam steal and the crickets get salt to y'all.

2334
02:05:05,159 --> 02:05:09,039
Speaker 5: Lid alone, and it spotting the weather break day ties

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02:05:09,119 --> 02:05:09,840
into fools.

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02:05:09,920 --> 02:05:45,560
Speaker 3: Some coble give me watching the spotting. Some say, gods

2337
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:47,039
it old pine ridge.

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02:05:47,239 --> 02:05:50,760
Speaker 6: Something said he walks from bridge to bridge, the warm

2339
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:55,399
things show when the night comes down, something big still calls,

2340
02:05:55,520 --> 02:05:56,439
it's grown.

2341
02:05:58,600 --> 02:06:00,560
Speaker 3: So bank that hell.

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02:06:00,720 --> 02:06:03,880
Speaker 4: Let the night get teep at the willows, whisper o.

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02:06:03,960 --> 02:06:05,279
Speaker 2: The coots creeps.

2344
02:06:05,359 --> 02:06:07,199
Speaker 8: Did you catch us glimpse.

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02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:07,800
Speaker 2: Through the midnight?

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Speaker 3: Holler, just now your head don't scream.

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02:06:10,640 --> 02:06:13,119
Speaker 6: And hollered the father wild, I'm on spring, and the

2348
02:06:13,279 --> 02:06:14,920
legends getting taller, how.

2349
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:15,920
Speaker 2: Where it runs.

2350
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Speaker 3: In watching Holly, we

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02:06:18,039 --> 02:06:22,000
Speaker 5: Ain't scared, but we sure staying cautious down in the knockout,

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that squatching holler,