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Speaker 1: Okay, so have you ever heard about like giants roaming America? Giants? Yeah,

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not just like mythical figures, but actual junkeant skeletons found

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across the country.

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Speaker 2: It is captivating how tales of giants appear in cultures globally,

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you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What we'll be exploring is whether these stories are purely

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mythical or if there's any like tangible evidence to support

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them exactly.

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Speaker 1: We'll be examining like reports and controversies and the possible

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suppression of evidence related to giant skeletons found in America. Okay,

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I think eight foot skeletons in Ohio, a possible twelve

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foot sarcophagus in California, and a Nevada cave brimming with

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artifacts seemingly too large for average sized humans.

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Speaker 2: The Lovelock Cave in Nevada is a great starting point.

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It's intertwined with the Payute tribe's legend of the cytikaw

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rare hair giants, who, according to their stories, terrorize the region.

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Speaker 1: So are these legends just imaginative tales or could they

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point to a hidden chapter in human history.

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Speaker 2: What's fascinating is that the Pioute accounts to pick these

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Citi Ka as cannibalistic giants, incredibly strong and difficult to defeat.

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They waged war against the Payut and neighboring tribes.

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Speaker 1: Wow, and these aren't just campfire stories. Right. In the

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early nineteen hundreds, excavations at Lovelock Cave uncovered some startling findings. Right.

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They found thousands of artifacts, including a giant handprint on

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the cave wall. It makes you wonder how big were

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these hands.

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Speaker 2: They even found a size twenty nine sandal. Wo imagine

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trying to find shoes that size today. Yeah, and there

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were reports of mummified remains of giants with red hair,

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just like in the Paiutee legends.

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Speaker 1: It's so interesting you see. The Lovelock Cave findings, alongside

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similar global legends, raised a crucial question. Are these stories

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purely mythical or do they hint at an alternative history

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we haven't fully grasped.

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Speaker 2: That's the core of the mystery. Yeah, and it becomes

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even more intriguing when we consider them numerous reports of

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giant skeletons found across the US, spanning from Ohio to California.

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Speaker 1: Take for instance, the eighteen seventy two report in Noble County, Ohio,

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describing three skeletons over eight feet tall, each with double

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rows of teeth. Double rows of teeth. That's a detail

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that sticks with you, isn't it. And in eighteen ninety one,

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anthropologist Frederick Ward Putnam unearthed large skeletons in the same region,

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measuring seven feet or taller, with skulls twice as thick

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as a human's almost like a different species.

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Speaker 2: These discoveries, each with its unique details, add to the intrigue.

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Then there's the Miamisburg Mound in Ohio, where a skeleton

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over eight feet tall was supposedly found but later vanished

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from a local museum. The vanishing skeletons are a recurring

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element in these accounts, making verification difficult exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's like pieces of a puzzle are deliberately being removed.

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We see a similar pattern with the Cressat Mound in

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West Virginia, where in nineteen fifty nine a seven foot

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two inch skeleton was unearthed during an excavation. So many reports,

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yet the evidence seems to disappear. It makes you wonder

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where these skeletons ended up.

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Speaker 2: So you're seeing a pattern here, right numerous reports of

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giant skeletons, all vanishing without a trace. It begs the

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question is there a Dula liberate effort to suppress this

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evidence or are we simply chasing shadows. Some researchers point

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fingers at the Smithsonian Institution.

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Speaker 1: This is where things get really interesting. There are numerous

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reports suggesting that the Smithsonian received many of these giant

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skeletons over the years.

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Speaker 2: It's like a whisper running through these accounts. The Smithsonian

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received the skeletons, but they're nowhere to.

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Speaker 1: Be found now and when researchers request information about specific artifacts,

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they often hit a wall vague answers, claims of missing

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items or inaccessible storage locations. It's almost like they're being

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deliberately evasive.

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Speaker 2: For example, in nineteen fifty, researcher Frederick J. Poe inquired

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about ancient wooden coffins from Crump's Cave, Alabama, sent to

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the Smithsonian. The institution couldn't locate them, despite records showing

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they had been received, and.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety two researcher David Barron faced a similar situation.

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He was told the coffins were wooden troughs and inaccessible

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due to as best as contamination. Oh wow, missing files

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inaccessible warehouses vague responses. It definitely raises eyebrows, wouldn't you say?

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Speaker 2: It does make you wonder? To understand the Smithsonian stance,

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we need to rewind a bit and look at how

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their perspective on archaeology shifted in the late nineteenth century.

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Speaker 1: They initially supported the idea of diffusionism, the notion that

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ancient civilizations interacted and shared cultural ideas. Okay, but then

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their stance shifted towards isolationism, rejecting the idea that Native

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American cultures could have interacted with those across the oceans.

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Speaker 2: I understand the Smithsonian's initial openness to diffusionism, but their

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shift to isolationism seems quite abrupt. What factors could have

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contributed to such a dramatic change in their perspective.

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Speaker 1: That's a great question and one that deserves further exploration.

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Could it be that certain discoveries challenged the prevailing narrative

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of human history so much that they were deemed too

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disruptive to acknowledge. Perhaps the idea of a more interconnected

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ancient world, one where giants might have roamed was simply

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too radical for the time.

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Speaker 2: And it seems the shift and perspective might have influenced

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how the Smithsonian handled evidence that challenge their newly adopted narrative.

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Perfect example of this is the controversy surrounding the A.

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Speaker 1: Now, speaking of challenging conventional narratives, let's look at these A.

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Cambero artifacts. Over thirty three thousand ceramic and stone figurines

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depicting dinosaurs alongside humans. There are depictions of various ethnic groups, mermaids,

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human animal hybrids, and even a bigfoot like creature.

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Speaker 2: Imagine that the imagery is truly striking. It's almost as

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if these artifacts are trying to tell us a different

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story of human history, a more diverse and fantastical one

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than what we've been traditionally taught.

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Speaker 1: And to add to the mystery, laboratory dating suggested an

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age of six five hundred years for these artifacts, but

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the Smithsonian dismissed them as a hoax, claiming they were

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only thirty years old.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting how quickly they dismissed such a large collection

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of artifacts, especially when you consider the dating.

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Speaker 1: Evidence and it gets even more intriguing. John Tierney, who

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authenticated the artifacts file at a freedom of information request for

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the Smithsonians files on the Acambero find and guess what

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the files were missing?

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Speaker 2: Missing files inaccessible warehouses, vague responses. It's a pattern that

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keeps repeating itself.

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Speaker 1: It certainly raises questions about transparency and potential suppression of evidence,

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especially considering the Smithsonian's exemption from the Native American Graves

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Protection and Repatriation Act of nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 2: This act mandates the return of Native American cultural items

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and remains to tribes. However, the Smithsonian isn't obligated to comply.

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It raises concerns about accountability and control over artifacts with

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immense cultural and historical value. It's almost as if knowledge

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is being guarded instead of shared.

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Speaker 1: Makes you wonder what else might be hidden away in

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the Smithsonian's vast collections, doesn't it. But let's shift gears

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for a moment and examine this from a scientific perspective.

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Is it even possible for giant humans to have existed?

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Speaker 2: That's where the square cube law comes in. It states

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that as an object increases in size, its volume grows

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faster than its surface area.

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Speaker 1: Think about it this way. If you were to double

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a human's height, their weight would increase eightfold. Wow, their

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bones simply wouldn't be able to support that. So from

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a purely biomechanical standpoint, giant humans seem improbable exactly.

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Speaker 2: However, some reports describe the bones of giant skeletons as

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thicker and denser than those of modern humans, suggesting a

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possible adaptation to support their massive size. Of course, we

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need to be cautious with these accounts, as many could

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be exaggerated or fabricated.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, we can't take every report at face value. There

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have been documented hoaxes, like the stage discovery of a

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giant skeleton near Cincinnati in eighteen eighty two.

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Speaker 2: Hoaxes certainly muddy the waters, making it even more challenging

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to separate fact from fiction. And when we delve into

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alternative theories, we often encounter resistance.

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Speaker 1: It's like there's a playbook for suppressing information. The challenge

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is conventional thinking. It starts with criticizing opposing views, labeling

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them as preposterous, dangerous, or even racist. Then comes marginalization,

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dismissing those who entertain these ideas as conspiracy theorists, and

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if that doesn't work, they resort to attacking individuals, accusing

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them of promoting harmful ideologies without evidence. Finally, we reach

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the stage of censorship, suppressing discussion and preventing the dissemination

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of alternative perspectives.

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Speaker 2: We have seen this play out recently with documentaries presenting

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theories about lost civilizations. Despite thoughtful arguments, they often face

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backlash from mainstream media and some scientists. It's a reminder

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that challenging long held beliefs, even with evidence, can be

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met with resistance.

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Speaker 1: It seems some would rather cling to familiar narratives than

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explore new possibilities, even if those possibilities might hold the

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key to a more accurate understanding of our past. It

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highlights the importance of critical thinking, questioning assumptions, and being

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open to alternative perspectives. But sometimes even something as seemingly

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unrelated as a sweet potato can challenge long held beliefs.

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Speaker 2: A sweet potato, how does that fit into the Giant's

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skeleton mystery?

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Speaker 1: Well, it perfectly illustrates how new evidence is challenging the

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Smithsonian's long held belief in isolationism. Ancient sweet potatoes found

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in the Cook Islands pre date Columbus, suggesting trans Pacific

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travel by Native Americans or Polynesians.

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Speaker 2: That's fascinating. It suggests a more interconnected ancient world than

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Speaker 1: Exactly, and there's more linguistic similarities between Polynesian and South

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American words for sweet potato. Further support this possibility of

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pre Columbian contact, and the most compelling evidence comes from

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DNA analysis. Polynesian chickens were found in Chile and South

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Speaker 2: That's pretty conclusive evidence of pre Colombian contact. It seems

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the humble sweet potato has become a symbol of a

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more interconnected ancient world, one that directly challenges the isolationist narrative.

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And if we were wrong about that, what else might

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Speaker 1: That's the question that keeps lingering, isn't it? And it

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brings us back to the giants. If the isolationist narrative

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is crumbling, could the possibility of giants be re examined

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with a fresh perspective. We'll delve deeper into this and

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other intriguing aspects of the Giant's skeleton. Myistry in part

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two of our Deep Dive