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Speaker 1: And I just turned around and I call ass out

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Speaker 2: I was done. I wasn't dealing with that.

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Speaker 3: The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things

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that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my

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head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And

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one of the things I remember the most, where the

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eyes were going red.

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Speaker 2: I see an orb of light. It is just circling.

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Speaker 1: These steps like it is waiting for me.

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Speaker 3: And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO.

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Speaker 2: They're basically like, what are you talking about.

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Speaker 1: That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,

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and that's where I saw the top of.

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Speaker 2: The muzzle, nose and the eyes.

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Speaker 1: As soon as I made eye contact with this thing,

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I don't like death. Welcome back to ten Foil Tals.

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I'm your host Brandon Tonight, I'm joining about with my

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guest Will Will. Thanks for coming here and talking.

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Speaker 2: To me, Thanks for having me appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Would you like to let the audience know a little

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bit about yourself before we dive into it.

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Speaker 3: Sure, I am an author, a public speaker. I'm a

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food critic and also the world's foremost authority on the

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window Man state. And I guess the reason I'm the

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foremost authority on that is because I'm the only one

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that I know does it.

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Speaker 1: Before we get into the window man aspects, I had

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a couple of questions, like, leading up to this, is

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this something that how did you figure this out? Like

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it without explaining everything right off the bat. Was this

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something that just kind of happened or was it something

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that like per gressed into it?

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Speaker 3: Well, certainly it was a progression, but there were these

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precursors and things that led me along the way to

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finding this. And like I've said multiple times in other

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things that I am or have never been normal. From

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the time I was born, things were different. I potty

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trained myself at eighteen months. At two years old, I

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could hold a conversation with you at the level of

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a twelve year old. By three years old, I began

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to see things before they would happen. It was an

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extra sensory perception esp people call it, and I lost

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a connection to that as I went further along. But

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then there were other things that came and so I

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recognize that now as a precursor.

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Speaker 1: I guess, was there we'll get into durers we was

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there like a catalyst kind of got the whole thing

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for you, like some sort of event without like describing

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the whole thing before, but like, was there something that

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just set it off?

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Speaker 3: Sure, when I was nine years old. When I was

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nine years old, there was an event in the classroom.

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We'll get into that, and that that is where everything began.

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Speaker 2: That was where it started for sure.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, if you're good to go, I will turn

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it over to you and we can get into and

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if I got any questions, I'll ask as we go along.

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Speaker 3: Sure, why don't we just start with that event right there?

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When I was nine years old, I'm sitting in the classroom,

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and I'm not the guy that I am today. I was,

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you know, obviously today you know, speak in public and

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do all of these things.

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Speaker 2: But I was a really timid kid.

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Speaker 3: And so I'm sitting in the classroom and I have

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to pee, and I have to pee like nobody's business.

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Speaker 3: And I didn't want to raise my hand because I

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felt like if I raised my hand, then I'm gonna

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get ridiculed by the other students. And unfortunately that backfired

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in a really, really horrific way. About ten minutes later

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after I should have raised my hand, I'm sitting there

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and I just got pissed running down my leg. And

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now the teacher. There's a million things the teacher could

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have done, but she didn't try to disguise it in

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any way, so she just exposes it to the class.

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Speaker 2: And now there's this huge, like glorious.

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which I found to be a little bit ridiculous that

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she would be laughing, you know, at a student, but

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she was. And I should have probably went home that day.

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Speaker 2: I didn't. I decided to stay at school.

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Speaker 3: I went to the locker room and I took a shower,

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changed out, and you know, got my gym clothes on,

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and came back and continued to be picked on for

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the rest of the day. And I'm talking about punched

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and kicked and you know, you name it.

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Speaker 2: It was. It was happening to me.

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Speaker 3: People were calling me all kinds of names that you could,

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you know, possibly imagine a third grade kid would call

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another kid who would just pissed his pants in front.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, I go home that day and I don't

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even know what to do.

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Speaker 2: With myself. I go to my room and I just start.

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Speaker 3: Crying my eyes out because I'm thinking, I don't know

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what am I going to do with my life now.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is like everything feels wrecked at this point.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sitting there and I should have probably or

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Speaker 3: Let me explain it like this. I didn't feel like

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I was crying myself asleep. That's not what happened. I

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of a sudden, just like a snap, just like that,

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I'm out and I don't know why that happened. And

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at the time, I obviously was like, why did this happen?

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was the morning, and I felt fully rested. And this

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was the first time that I experienced what I call

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the window man stage, because when I opened my eyes up,

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I was viewing the world through a different lens. I

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wasn't viewing it like you or I would view it now.

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out through a window and I'm in no control of anything.

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it's doing everything for me. And all of a sudden,

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I hear my mother's voice call from the other room,

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and all of a sudden, you start getting dressed really fast.

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see her and I just grab her and I just

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throw my arms around her, and I just start bawling.

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the car with her. I'm sure she was a little

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a word, and I get out of the car. I

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look at her and I say this. I say, don't worry,

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I'll be back, which is a really weird thing for

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a kid to say, you know, but that was what

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Speaker 3: I see this kid that I called my tormentor in

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the book, and he's sitting at the back of the class,

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just cracking up.

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that's not happening to me at all. It feels like

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it's happening in a different place to somebody else. And

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my body starts moving toward his desk, and another kid

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that was giving me a hard time he steps in

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the way and just pushing to the ground, and I

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walk to his desk. I grab him by the back

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of the head and I slam him face down into

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the desk and now there's blood everywhere. He didn't break

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his nose, but there was a lot of blood. And

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so I go to the principal's office and he immediately

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really fast. And I think the reason he started yelling

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at me like he did was because he felt comfortable

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doing so. Because I'm this timid kid that, you know,

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isn't I'm not a fighter, I'm not, you know, anything

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like this. I'm not going to argue with him. And

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and I paused for a second, and then this voice

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rises out of me, and I'm telling you, it had

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authority to it. And the voice rose out of me

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and it said, Hey, what kind of man allows a

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child to be kicked, punched, beaten and tormented on the

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daily basis then has the audacity to give this kid

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a hard time when he only tempts to defend himself.

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steps back, he takes a deep breath and his face

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was something going on there, because this wasn't, you know,

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the normal child he was used to hearing from. And

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he looks at me and he says, what would you

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have me do? There's a day that the principal of

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a school asked a nine year old kid, what would

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you have me do? And I looked at him and

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I said, here's what you do. If the parents squeal

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about what happened, you tell them all about their son,

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and you tell them that they could be dragged into

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the very same lawsuit that all drag this school into.

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heard about it again. And the reason that my mother

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in that scene had happened that morning and that was

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first time that my forty eight year old consciousness had

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stepped in for my nine year old self. So this

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was my forty eight year old self speaking to the teacher.

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reason that the scene had happened with my mother was

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because to my forty eight year old consciousness, my mother

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had been dead for over a year, and so now

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this is me seeing her for the first time after

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so many it's so long when I hadn't seen her,

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and now I'm seeing her in her thirty year old body,

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and it was mind blowing. If you could imagine what

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Speaker 1: My door just opened up by itself. So I kind

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of weirded me out a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We I probably didn't shut it all the way over,

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Speaker 2: But it's whatever.

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Speaker 1: So now, when you were nine years old and you

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so basically forty year difference. Did that consciousness stick with

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you from that point on?

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Speaker 3: Or what do you mean by stick with me from

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, like it basically like your consciousness took over

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like if it's kind of just stayed with you since then,

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like you still had that idea from your older.

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Speaker 3: So no, no, that it stepped in and left, okay.

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what it was that stepped in in certain places.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, no, that wasn't it didn't stay with me.

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Speaker 1: No, when it when it first happened for you, like

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did your did you feel different, like did your body

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feel different or did you feel anything different when this

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how you can see everything that goes on outside, but

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like whatever's going on out the birds are moving, whatever's happening.

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I couldn't control anything, not function, not speech, nothing.

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and everything, how much longer until you kind of came

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Speaker 3: State that that went away as soon as I stepped out,

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and you find out how I how I stepped out

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later if you read in the book, you'll you'll find

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that I have to connect multiple senses to events because essentially,

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here's the way that it is. We are the microcosm

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of the macro casm. So there's a version of me

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that has never started talking to you yet there's a

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version of me that is already finished with this interview

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see it. So there's multiple versions, and there's split seconds off.

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And since there's split seconds off, it's like, if you

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can connect yourself to a moment, then you can essentially

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commandeer the vehicle. You can take over that vehicle. So

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what I'm saying is, have you ever heard a song

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and that song kind of took you back and you

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were like WHOA, Like I almost feel like I'm in

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that moment that's a baby step through the door. And

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because I have this window man state, this thing that

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I can do, I'm able to step through the door,

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and many people would not be able to step through

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the door.

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Speaker 2: It's it's a supernatural.

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Speaker 3: Gifting and each of us have them, but most people

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don't know how to access them.

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Speaker 2: And so that's what that's actually what.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing now with I'm on school and I'm actually

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teaching people how to access their their supernatural gifting because

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it's there, you just have to understand how to get there.

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And there's a lot of things that bind you from

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ever getting there. There's these things I call frequency binders,

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and they keep you from ever being able to move

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to that state.

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Speaker 1: Doors moving again, this happens with me. Do you think

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that the way this sounds is almost like trying to

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think almost like not so much multiverses, but kind of

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in a sense like different versions of reality, different versions

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of time, like a different time and space between when

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you and I have already talked another time where we

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haven't talked. Is there a way for you to communicate

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with yourself from a different time frame?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Actually, I should probably explain this before we even

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go into that and how deep that actually goes, because

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that's a very deep rabbit hole that we would be

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looking at there. But I want to say that this

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will probably blow some minds out there. But Elon Musk

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had said that there was only like a one in

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a billion chance that we were living in anything but

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a simulation. And I'm going to go ahead and take

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it a step further and say we one hundred percent

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live in a simulation. And what I do exploits a glitch.

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And this glitch allows me to move through not only

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my own timeline, but multiple timelines.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And because there are there are all these different coded

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versions of the matrix, and I have moved through many

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of them. And there's something called an empty timeline where

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nothing exists on the empty timeline, no birds, no squirrels, nothing,

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nothing except plant life. And in that place, I'm actually

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able to commune with other versions of myself who have

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the same gifting, and we are able to devise plans

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and all sorts of things to.

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Speaker 2: Further this gift.

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Speaker 1: I will ask the question that I know everyone's thinking,

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how come you have not won the lottery?

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 3: That is a beautiful question, and I will tell you

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why when people read window Man, they will understand that

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Time tends to attack and it acts as an entity,

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so it attacks you. And I've learned later that there's

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something called the Darker Force, and that's what Windowman two

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is about. It's called the Darker Force, and the darker

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Force has the ability to suppress the abilities and also

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Time itself, acting as an entity, looks at me as

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a parasite and it wants to flush me out. So

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if I use the gifting in any way to do

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anything that profits me, I'm attacked viciously. In fact, it

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talks about it in the book where I had compound

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fractured my leg immediately after winning on DraftKings, that I

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had won one hundred thousand dollars on DraftKings and my

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leg was compound fractured within thirty seconds. So there is

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something that stops me from ever trying to use it

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for profit.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I know the listeners out there when people

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hear this before, because I've had someone say they've traveled

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time and everything, and everyone says the same thing, like

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with psychics, if all this is real, how come they

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haven't won the lottery? If they know that what the

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future holds how comes someone hasn't rich, and like it

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is one of those questions that it has to be asked,

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because again, that's the way everyone thinks.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And if you think that that wasn't

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something that crossed my mind. In the book, it talks about, Hey,

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I could go back and I could find this stock

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that exploded. You know, I could go and you know

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bet On, you know Mike Tyson versus Buster Douglas, you

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know all of these things. And yeah, I definitely that

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it comes in and there's this this greed that makes

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you want to do that. But I found out in

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the most vicious way possible that you don't want.

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Speaker 2: To do that.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned something about time like as an entity, as

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an actual physical or type of a thing, because we

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don't see time as that, Like, we don't see time

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as anything other than just time. So if this is

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something that has like an actual control to it, like

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a mindset, would that be considered part of the programming?

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Like it's almost like a coded protector for the timeline.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I actually think that that's that's almost a

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given in the book when you look at it, because

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the fact is is that it it tries to attack,

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and it tries to kill you, but there are all

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these rules that seem to be in place. One of

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the rules is that until you reach a certain point,

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it's not allowed to attack you directly, that it will

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only attack it will only attack those around you. But

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at some point it starts to look at you as

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being on par with itself, and when that happens, it

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starts to try and kill you. And it took quite

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a long time before it actually started trying to kill me,

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but it did and on multiple occasions.

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Speaker 1: M Yeah, Now, because we've talked, we've kind of went

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down a rabbit hole of simulation theory. So what happens

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if you were to die but there's other versions of you?

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Is just this version the only one that would die?

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Or with all of them died too, or do you

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have no idea?

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Speaker 3: No, this version is the only one, and there are

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multiple versions of you dying every day.

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Speaker 2: You know, we are all on.

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Speaker 3: This stream and if you just look at it, like

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you know, there's a cliff at the end, and slowly

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but surely versions of you are going over the cliff.

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That's how That's how it is. So we've all died

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multiple times, and we I'll even tell you this, that

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we do come back. This is what happens. We come

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back into the stream every single time, over and over

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and over again. So it's so the the idea of reincarnation,

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all of that is is factual. And when I and

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I'll also say this, I think it's important and imperative

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that I say it that you know, there's a lot

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of believers out there, people who believe in you know,

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God and all of these things. And I will tell

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you that nothing that I'm saying is mutually exclusive with

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you know, the word there. All of it's true that

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to be absent of the body, be present with the Lord,

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how long before you go back?

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Speaker 2: You know? And that's you know, like I said.

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Speaker 3: If you ever have any questions like that that you

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want to ask them, more than happy to answer those two.

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Speaker 1: I had a couple of notes that's kind of what

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I'm reading through. And one of the things I was

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curious about when you mentioned, like when I originally went

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through this, when it comes to like your consciousness jumping

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through time. We've kind of already alluded to some of this,

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but it doesn't cause like a paradox type of a

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weird time shift or something between the fact that you

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know that you're communicating with yourself from a different timeframe

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that doesn't have any sort of negative effects or anything

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on you.

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Speaker 3: Time works very different than people believe it does. And

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we believe in, you know, the butterfly effect, and that

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if you do something here that it moves forward, right,

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And that's not really the case.

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Speaker 2: One way that I would explain it would.

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Speaker 3: Be like this, if I cut off the blood flow

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to my leg, right, is it only my leg and

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my foot that are affected?

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Speaker 2: The answer is no, that's going to put a strain

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on my heart.

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Speaker 3: It could cause me to have a heart attack, and

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it could cause me to have a stroke.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: These things happen in the heart and in the brain.

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So what I'm saying is that when you affect time,

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you affect it both forward and backward. Is a retro causality.

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It's something completely different than what people believe to actually

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be reality. As far as time goes, time is much

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much different, and time now is in flux. And in

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being in flux, you may believe that you've lived this

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life and it's been what you've had from the very beginning,

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but it can change at any point and when it does,

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you will believe that it hasn't changed. So yeah, so

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it's because you'll still have all of the memories of

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what you believe has been your life, but it has

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shifted multiple times because time has been affected, and it's

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affected in both directions, and it's constantly in flux.

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Speaker 2: And you hear about this in the book as well.

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Speaker 1: How did you come to understand all of this? I

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know we've kind of haven't really got further past your

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first experience, but how long did it take for you

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to kind of understand what was going on?

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Speaker 2: Oh? This was so many years in the making, you know.

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Speaker 3: One of the ways that I've explained it on a

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few occasions is to say, you know, you start getting

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in shape, and then you go, oh, you know what,

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I could probably box, And then you start boxing, and

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then you're like, hey, I can start kickboxing, you know,

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And next thing you know, you're doing jiu jitsu and

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wrestling and all these other things, and now you're a

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complete mixed martial artist. So what I'm saying is that

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this was a development over years and years and years,

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and when I'm inside in that window man state, I

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have been able to map the brain and do many,

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many things that people don't actually understand. Things go on

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inside that you can never explain out here. I ended

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up being inside one time for six months, and it

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felt like this, because six months six minutes relatively the

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same inside if you're not actually looking through the window,

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which is why I had to learn to look through

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the window, because if I wasn't constantly in the window,

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then time would just go and it would go so fast.

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And so I learned to slice off this little piece

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of my consciousness that could continue mapping the brain. And

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like I said in the book, I don't ask me

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to explain that there's things that happen that go on

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inside that you can't explain out here.

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Speaker 2: It's a totally different world inside.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you would like to continue on after the

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first time you experienced it, I'd like to hear more

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about how you've come to learn about the ability.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can explain the first time I had really

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tried to go through and step through into the you know,

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out of this time, I didn't use the window. Man,

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I tried, and I had connected my senses together from

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something that if you've read in the book, you learn

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that it was this thing that I was led to do,

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and it taught me how to how to connect the

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senses together in order to do this, and it didn't.

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It didn't work the first time. It was like pushing

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against a very strong wind, and I just felt like

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there was nothing I could do. And I remember twenty

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six minutes of trying to push through and tell my

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brain hurts so bad that I needed to stop, that

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I couldn't, that I couldn't go through anymore. And one day,

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on my way to the liquor store, of all things,

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something just just dawned on me, and it said, step

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into the window. And so I'm going in my car

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and I'm listening to Jelly Rolls Son of a Sinner,

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and I'm drinking on a Pepsi cola, and I'm ripping

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the steering wheel, and I look at the gas gauge

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because I knowed myself that if I look at the odometer,

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00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,000
then it may change before I get home, and I

480
00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:09,839
don't want to have anything visually off.

481
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: The gas meter is.

482
00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 3: Not going to change before I get home. So I

483
00:27:14,759 --> 00:27:17,839
get home and I put my beer in the fridge.

484
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:20,960
At all of this, and I come back out and

485
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,000
I get in the car. I start the car up,

486
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,960
and I don't want to actually drive the car because

487
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,400
if I drive the car, I'm afraid in my mind

488
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,960
that I'm leaving an unmanned vehicle if this works. So

489
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,400
I put on the Jelly roll song a bluetooth that threw.

490
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,720
I'm drinking on the Pepsi cola. I'm gripping the steering wall,

491
00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:44,200
I'm looking at the gas gauge and I awaken driving

492
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,720
the vehicle. And I'm driving the vehicle and I almost

493
00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:51,799
get hit by this blue Ford Explorer that goes right

494
00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:54,839
through the through the light and I slam on the

495
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,559
brakes just after. Mind you, this is when I just

496
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,720
kind of like came to because my body was seizing.

497
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,559
That was the first time like I was, I was

498
00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:09,519
seizing like this, and so that was a really scary

499
00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:11,400
thing because I could have I could have died in

500
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,000
that situation. But I go back to the house. I'm

501
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,519
super excited. I don't even like go to the liquor store.

502
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,039
I go back to the house. I run straight through

503
00:28:20,039 --> 00:28:22,839
the door. I go in, I open the refrigerator door,

504
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,559
and there's no beer in the refrigerator. I look in

505
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,599
my wallet and the money that I had used to

506
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,079
purchase that beer is back in my wallet, and this

507
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,599
is the first time I realized that I'd actually stepped

508
00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:35,119
out of time.

509
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:42,119
Speaker 1: Okay, so that was within the last five to ten years.

510
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was when I was forty eight years old,

511
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:48,519
when I'm fifty now, so yeah, it was. That was

512
00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:51,400
the first time that I stepped through that doorway. And

513
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,359
then later, obviously I stepped through the doorway again when

514
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,599
I went back into my nine year old That was

515
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,160
something that was such a vivid memory to me that

516
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:04,720
I just.

517
00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: I said, I have to go do this.

518
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: This is something I have to try, and just like that,

519
00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:14,119
I was back in that body and I and it

520
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,720
details it in the book.

521
00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: Is this something that you would think is more trauma

522
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,559
based of how you learned to get to this ability,

523
00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:23,720
because it seems like it's something traumatic that happened to

524
00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:24,720
trigger the whole thing.

525
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: Oh, you're one hundred percent correct. That's a great question.

526
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,839
The trauma is what started it, and it wasn't just then.

527
00:29:35,559 --> 00:29:39,240
It didn't happen again until I was in my early

528
00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:43,039
to mid twenties. Right there, I was in a bad

529
00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:49,319
relationship and I felt it going south, and I kind

530
00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:52,119
of did the same thing except I wasn't crying this time,

531
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,880
and in the book it says I kind of felt

532
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,000
like I was past that, you know, and I just

533
00:29:56,039 --> 00:29:57,759
went into the room and I laid on the bed,

534
00:29:58,599 --> 00:30:01,880
and I just felt this heat come over my eyes.

535
00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:03,759
And when the heat came over my eyes, all of

536
00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:07,359
a sudden, everything went dark. And when I opened my

537
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,599
eyes again, I was in that same window man state

538
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,279
that I was in when I was nine years old.

539
00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:15,960
And so, yes, the trauma is what opened the door originally,

540
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:22,279
but in doing it, it allowed me to access it

541
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,640
at any time. I just I became so capable of

542
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,039
doing it at any time based on just the fact

543
00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:32,079
that I had done it before.

544
00:30:32,519 --> 00:30:34,599
Speaker 2: You know, It's like, like I explained it like this.

545
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:35,759
You know, if.

546
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,839
Speaker 3: John Jones goes out and gets drunk, right, he can

547
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,000
still basically whip a bunch of people's ass. It's second

548
00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:48,200
nature to him. That's what happened here. It became second

549
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,880
nature to me where I could just step in and out.

550
00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a time where you've tried to

551
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,680
step in to alter what had happened?

552
00:30:56,759 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: Mm hm, oh absolutely, There's been multiple times where I

553
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,599
try to step in and alter what had happened.

554
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: One time. I was talking to a coworker.

555
00:31:08,599 --> 00:31:13,279
Speaker 3: And I brought him out to the Madison Bear Garden

556
00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:15,279
in Chico with me to go ahead and have some

557
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,200
lunch and we'll just talk because I needed to get

558
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,440
this thing off my chest. I was like, I need

559
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,519
to get this off my chest. And he was a

560
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:25,480
good friend of mine, you know. So we started talking

561
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:28,599
and I told him everything. Now I'm not really sure

562
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,960
whether he truly believed it or he didn't believe it,

563
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,519
But we left that place and.

564
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,359
Speaker 2: We go through the red light or not the red light.

565
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,039
Speaker 3: We were parked at at the red light, and then

566
00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:46,799
we went through when it turned green and a red

567
00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:51,160
Honda Civic comes through and blindsides him and I have

568
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,160
him right here on my lap, covered in blood.

569
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: I watched him die. That was our natural timeline.

570
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:03,319
Speaker 3: I went back and fixed that, And this is one

571
00:32:03,319 --> 00:32:06,079
of the very rare times where I've been able to

572
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:12,720
go back and actually change something like that. On multiple occasions,

573
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:16,519
it hasn't worked that way. And in the end, I'll

574
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:18,759
tell you something else that I tried to fix that

575
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,599
didn't work.

576
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: And it's a really crazy story.

577
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,519
Speaker 1: I don't know the way that they would be able

578
00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:30,079
to do something like this to actually check it out.

579
00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:33,759
But like if you ever had anyone like be around

580
00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:35,759
when you've went into this state to where they can

581
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,160
monitor like how it happens for you or anything like that.

582
00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:44,599
Speaker 3: No, no, hey, I have never done anything like that.

583
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:48,279
And it's funny because I believe it was the butterfly

584
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:52,759
effect three they have there's a situation where she monitors

585
00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:54,880
him as he goes in and does this. I've never

586
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,599
had anyone monitor me going through this gateway.

587
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: And I don't know that I want anyone to.

588
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit worried about what that would you know,

589
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,880
what that would entail or what that would bring I

590
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,319
but no, I can honestly say that I've never had

591
00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:13,799
anybody do that.

592
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: Part of it.

593
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,359
Speaker 1: I just I hate doing it, but I have to

594
00:33:17,359 --> 00:33:20,160
get MRIs on my head for my brain stuff. And

595
00:33:20,279 --> 00:33:23,440
like I didn't know if like they would be if

596
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,119
you were able to do something like that, if you

597
00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:26,839
were like in an MRI machine, I wonder what it

598
00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:28,440
would actually pick up or show if they I don't

599
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,640
even know how that that would even work. I just

600
00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:32,039
kind of wondering.

601
00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:37,319
Speaker 3: That's very interesting because I have been looking into doing

602
00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:41,759
a brain scan, because there are these things that happened

603
00:33:41,799 --> 00:33:46,519
to me when I go out, specifically, like the time

604
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:50,200
I did with the six months, I come back, and

605
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,599
when I come back and I wasn't in the window,

606
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:56,039
there were certain things that I didn't remember, okay, And

607
00:33:56,119 --> 00:34:00,039
so all of these things need to come back, and

608
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:03,839
they do, and they come back viciously. And this is

609
00:34:03,839 --> 00:34:08,039
something that I call the flood. So the flood is

610
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,119
all of these memories rushing back all at once. And

611
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,840
if you understand, like the hippocampus is responsible for your

612
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,639
memory creation and it is buried deep within the temporal lobe. Now,

613
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:25,440
the temporal lobe is connected to both hemispheres, and both

614
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,480
hemispheres are connected to the occipital lobe. So when all

615
00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:32,079
of these come flooding back, what they do is they

616
00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:36,559
set your brain on fire. And so for a few hours,

617
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,440
it feels like somebody hits you over the head with

618
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,920
a sledgehammer, and is absolutely one of the most vicious feelings.

619
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:49,960
It could kill people, it's that strong, and you feel

620
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,000
the after effects for days.

621
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: I was wondering too, like when you just mentioned that,

622
00:34:56,559 --> 00:34:59,280
I would be curious to know, like if by going

623
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,159
in there, whatever, if it's actually causing some sort of

624
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,039
health issues. Because I know you mentioned the Butterfly I

625
00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:07,440
remember the first one. I ever seen any of the

626
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,480
other ones, but I remember seeing something before, like where

627
00:35:11,519 --> 00:35:15,480
someone was able to like I don't know the movie.

628
00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:17,800
I can't trying to think, but like every time he

629
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,760
went back and did something, it was like taking a

630
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,199
little bit of peace from him and up eventually it

631
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,639
was going to kill him if he kept doing it.

632
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,320
I can't remember what the movie that was.

633
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think myself, but I don't know.

634
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 3: I do know that there was that in the Butterfly

635
00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:35,199
effect though the first one he did experience something very

636
00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:37,559
similar to the flood when you I don't remember if

637
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:39,840
you remember him grabbing his head and holding his head

638
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,119
and it, you know, through all the memories and blood

639
00:35:42,199 --> 00:35:44,599
running out of his nose, it was he was having

640
00:35:44,639 --> 00:35:47,559
a you know, he was having that happen too, which

641
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:51,519
is really interesting. And that's honestly what led me to

642
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,400
find the things that I found was because I in

643
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,960
the beginning, I started looking through all sorts of movies

644
00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:03,159
and different things, believing that there had to be some

645
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:08,119
connection between you know, fiction and what is real. You know,

646
00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:13,079
and so I started looking through them, and when I

647
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:18,159
saw that there was a flood, you know, I saw

648
00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:20,239
all these things that it made sense to me, and

649
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,679
so I started to piece things together. And that's the

650
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,639
reason his use of a journal was something that kind

651
00:36:27,679 --> 00:36:30,599
of guided me. I knew a journal wouldn't work. It

652
00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:33,880
seemed too simple to me, but connecting all of my

653
00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:37,719
senses together made sense. And that's what and that's where

654
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,079
that came from, was learning from what I had seen

655
00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:46,320
so oddly. You know, fiction in real life can have

656
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,760
a crossing point.

657
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,039
Speaker 1: I think most fiction is influenced from something real in

658
00:36:51,039 --> 00:36:53,360
the first place. Someone has that idea, and if what

659
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,199
you're talking about is an actual capability that you're able

660
00:36:56,199 --> 00:36:58,119
to do, I'm sure there's probably been others that have

661
00:36:58,199 --> 00:36:59,800
done it at some point too, and it has somehow

662
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,280
been influence throughout time.

663
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: M absolutely, one hundred percent I agree with that statement.

664
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,559
And I will say that, like I said, each of

665
00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:15,360
us have a supernatural gifting. I know this, it's just

666
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:20,360
about accessing it, and people don't understand that. You know,

667
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,880
the thirty three vertebrae is called the Sacred Ladder, and

668
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,320
some people call Jacob's Ladder or whatever. But at the

669
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,119
top there's this this Atlas vertebrae. When you get to

670
00:37:31,159 --> 00:37:33,880
the Atlas vertebrate, when you push the energy, the kundalina

671
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,719
energy through there to the Atlas vertebrae, it can actually

672
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,960
pump into the pineal gland and when it does, it

673
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,320
decalcifies it. And when it decalcifies it, it allows you

674
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,239
to access things that you're not capable of accessing in

675
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,719
your natural form.

676
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: A lot of people have talked about stuff similar because

677
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,239
they think that what do they say, we only use

678
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,920
like a small percentage of our brain and the penial

679
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,719
grunt land or whatever is basically when it's calcified. They

680
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,320
think that's by design to keep us from actually achieving

681
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,559
those abilities that we've always had. So this is something

682
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:10,840
that's kind of been a reoccurring topic when on the show,

683
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,679
as people have talked about how to actually get in

684
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,119
touch with that and get in tune. It's almost like,

685
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,320
and I'm not trying to say it in the sense

686
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,760
of what you're doing is the same, but it's almost

687
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,239
similar to how people claim they travel the astral plane

688
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,360
or they get into the ability to like when they're

689
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,880
in a meditative state like they're leaving their body and

690
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,960
they're traveling through time and everything else to a different

691
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,639
plane of existence. And most of the people believe that

692
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:37,199
again like this is all kind of a simulation because

693
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,320
they're able to channel and do all that. Like, we're

694
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,800
just in this version of our world, but there's other

695
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,880
ones out there too that we're able to tap into

696
00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:47,039
once our mind's able to, like our consciouness is able

697
00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:49,360
to open up and move from the states that we're in.

698
00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely, and n astral projections a very real thing.

699
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,199
Speaker 3: I've had some people in my family that have been

700
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:57,920
able to do that.

701
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 2: That's not my gifting.

702
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: But but this, however, is my gifting. And so each

703
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,920
of us have, you know, different ones, and I'm not

704
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:09,519
entirely sure what they are, Like, I don't know what

705
00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:12,920
other people can do, because to be realistic, I don't

706
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,679
think a lot of people access this. It's a very

707
00:39:18,639 --> 00:39:21,599
it's a very unusual thing for somebody to reach that

708
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:22,880
level where they can do that.

709
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 2: You know. It's it's basically called like that.

710
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,159
Speaker 3: They call it a christ consciousness, you know, and you

711
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,400
get to that point where you can actually manipulate things.

712
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,679
Speaker 1: I've always thought about stuff like that, but I would

713
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,480
be too afraid to ever try. And I talked to

714
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:41,400
someone before the talk about how you can leave your

715
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,320
body in this It's like what happens if you leave

716
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,320
your body but you can't make it back to your

717
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,719
body When you're in that state now with you, you're

718
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,719
not necessarily leaving your body. But do you ever get

719
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,559
concerned that you're going to get trapped at while you're

720
00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:56,760
in the window situating? You said you've been in there

721
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,119
for like six months before. Has there ever been a

722
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,840
point to where you're afraid that you won't ever may

723
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,039
be able to get out of there?

724
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:04,159
Speaker 2: You know?

725
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,039
Speaker 3: It's the that's that's a great question, because it's it's

726
00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:07,800
the weirdest thing.

727
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 2: Uh.

728
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,599
Speaker 3: Like I said before, when when my eyes went dark

729
00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:14,360
and you know, I just felt like everything was.

730
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,679
Speaker 2: Going out around me.

731
00:40:16,159 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 3: And when I awaken into this like state where I'm

732
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,440
peering out to a lot of people, I think that

733
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,440
would sound terrifying, you know. And the funny thing is

734
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,519
is you're not. There's there's zero fear in this case,

735
00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:36,400
so you just I don't know why, but well, actually

736
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,239
I guess I do know why. The window man state

737
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:46,480
is emotionless. There's there's zero emotion connected to it, so

738
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:53,239
there's no excitement and certainly no fear. You you fear

739
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,760
nothing from the window man state. Now on the outside. Sure,

740
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,760
I mean I could say, well, I could worry if

741
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,679
I went in and something happened, But inside, zero fear,

742
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,880
zero fear, zero excitement, zero sadness everything.

743
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: Is this something that you enjoy or is it something

744
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,159
that you kind of regret? I know that's kind of

745
00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:22,760
a lopside of question, but like, is this something like

746
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,000
you wish that you could didn't figure out or is

747
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,960
this something that you enjoy now that you were able

748
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,760
to do this, Because I feel like it could be

749
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:33,880
a burden on either end.

750
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 3: I see that I look at it from this perspective.

751
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,119
I was guided all along the path for whatever reason.

752
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,800
And why I was guided, I have to say that

753
00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:52,679
the entire thing seemed like a puzzle. And if it

754
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,599
seemed like a puzzle, then that means that there was

755
00:41:55,599 --> 00:42:01,840
a creator of that puzzle, and so I was meant

756
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,480
to do this for whatever reason. I can't explain why

757
00:42:06,679 --> 00:42:08,239
I was meant to do this, and I don't know

758
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:13,159
exactly how far this goes Even now. Traversing time is

759
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:17,440
a small portion of what I do. You can read

760
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,159
about it in the book that there's many more things

761
00:42:20,159 --> 00:42:26,320
that I'm actually capable of on the inside. So I

762
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,880
don't know. I believe that I was one hundred percent

763
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:33,719
made to do this. And while it does suck sometimes

764
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,719
and I have had moments where I felt like I

765
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,440
don't want to do this anymore, I feel like I'm

766
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,199
pushed to do it.

767
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: It's almost like something's calling you to do this for

768
00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:45,679
whatever reason, You've been given this gift, and you fill

769
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,719
the need that you have to do it absolutely.

770
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 3: Because it's there are moments where it's burdensome. You know,

771
00:42:54,960 --> 00:43:00,239
there were times where I've had my face completely split open,

772
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:02,760
and I've been kicked in the nuts by a horse.

773
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:07,719
I had some very crazy things happen. They get attacked

774
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:13,639
over and over and over again, and it's it sucks

775
00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:16,119
on a lot of levels. But at the same time,

776
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,360
I know it's for a purpose.

777
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:19,119
Speaker 2: I do.

778
00:43:19,199 --> 00:43:21,119
Speaker 3: I know there has to be some purpose in it.

779
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,760
And whether that purpose is for me to change something,

780
00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:28,760
or whether that purpose is just to teach people that

781
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,760
there's something in you that you can do, then maybe

782
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:34,199
that's it.

783
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,079
Speaker 2: Maybe I just.

784
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 3: Unlocked this just in order to show others that there's

785
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,119
something that they can do and wake others up.

786
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: How has it been for you talking about this with

787
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:47,400
other people? Like obviously on my show, like this is

788
00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:50,440
what we talk about stuff like this, but like to

789
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,840
the average person that's not into stuff like this, how

790
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,760
do the people react to that? Because I know, like

791
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,119
if someone usually just thrown out sid they've seen a

792
00:43:58,159 --> 00:44:00,320
big foot, people don't believe them half the time. So

793
00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:03,480
how does it work for you when you talked about it?

794
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 3: You know, that's that's interesting because I find that it

795
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,679
is the people closest to me that seem.

796
00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 2: To have the hardest time.

797
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 3: When I when I talk to other people that aren't

798
00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:26,079
as close, they're fascinated and they they say, can you

799
00:44:26,159 --> 00:44:26,800
show me how?

800
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,519
Speaker 2: How how do you do these things? Please tell me?

801
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 3: You know, And the people closest to me have the

802
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,239
hardest time because, as we say, you're never a prophet

803
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:37,960
in your hometown.

804
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: You know that's the case.

805
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:47,679
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm not a prophet to to my own hometown.

806
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: The people closest around you are typically the ones that

807
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,360
are the hardest to convince of anything. So you mentioned

808
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:58,920
you talked to a friend about it, you didn't didn't

809
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,840
think he believed it? Is that like something you really is?

810
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,800
It kind of like a struggle for you that the

811
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,960
people closest to you don't necessarily go along way or

812
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,199
you don't worry about it anymore.

813
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,199
Speaker 3: I you know, for me, it's like I one, I'm

814
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,119
done caring what you know people think as far as like,

815
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,800
you know, whether you believe me or you don't believe me,

816
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,800
that doesn't matter to me much. The guy that I

817
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,920
told from from work, the friend, uh, it was kind

818
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,679
of up in the air. I wasn't sure how he

819
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,400
felt about it. It was hard to.

820
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,599
Speaker 2: Read, you know, it wasn't sure whether he believed it

821
00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:33,199
or he didn't.

822
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,119
Speaker 3: My own dad struggles, you know, with it, and he

823
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:42,559
was there for esp He was there for multiple things

824
00:45:42,639 --> 00:45:43,719
that happened along the way.

825
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:47,199
Speaker 2: You know. He remembers a specific time when.

826
00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: I was a kid, and uh, a tiny little kid,

827
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,960
I mean a tiny kid, and I walked past a

828
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,079
puddle and I knelt down and he looked at me

829
00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:58,199
and he says, what are you doing?

830
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 2: And I looked at up at.

831
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 3: Him and I said, I'm looking for microscopic pond life.

832
00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: And that blew him away.

833
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 3: You know it's he knows he's been seeing this kind

834
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,840
of stuff from me from the very beginning, and yet

835
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:20,559
it still boggles the mind. So I think, no matter what,

836
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,480
the people around you are always going to have the

837
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,639
hardest time. Others they tend to see it easier for

838
00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:27,320
whatever reason.

839
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for someone that's not close to this person,

840
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,280
it doesn't affect them in a sense that once they

841
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,760
walk away from you, they go on about their business.

842
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:42,360
It's the people that are close to you because I

843
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,400
deal all that with the stuff that I do with

844
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,480
this show and everything else, Like I am known around

845
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,400
my area is probably as a town crazy person at

846
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,519
this point because of just the stuff that I talk

847
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:54,639
about and oh he has a podcast. Oh yeah, Like

848
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,320
so at this point, because I live in a small town,

849
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,159
a lot of people know about what I do, and

850
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,920
it's got a stigma. Topics that we talk about like

851
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,079
this always have a stigma to it where the average

852
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:10,199
person doesn't necessarily always go along with it. So when

853
00:47:10,199 --> 00:47:13,119
you talk about weird topics, people automatically associate you with

854
00:47:13,199 --> 00:47:16,079
being a weirdo because you talk about the weird stuff.

855
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,880
But I think talking about these type of things are

856
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,119
important because if you didn't talk about it and just go

857
00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:23,320
along with everything that goes out there in the mainstream

858
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:28,679
life's pretty mundane and boring. Yeah, so it's the fascinating

859
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,719
stuff of the unknown that's always been what's drawn me

860
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:32,079
to it.

861
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: Oh, that's I'm happy to hear that.

862
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,519
Speaker 3: Like people actually look at this and say, hey, you

863
00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:42,320
know what, there's all kinds of other things out there

864
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,159
that we don't understand, and I want to understand it.

865
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:48,400
And that's great. I think it's great that you do this.

866
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,519
It's it's fantastic because there are so many things that

867
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:57,320
people don't understand. Yeah, and yeah, a multitude of things

868
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:58,239
on every level.

869
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,039
Speaker 1: So we've kind of went around everything. So for the basically,

870
00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:06,440
for the listeners out there, what are some of the

871
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,960
things that you've done without like spoiling your book or anything,

872
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,519
but what are some of the things that you've actually

873
00:48:11,559 --> 00:48:13,360
done when you're in the window state or something you'd

874
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,360
want to talk about to try and give them an

875
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,440
idea of some of the other things you've done besides

876
00:48:17,519 --> 00:48:18,840
just the time aspect to it.

877
00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: Oh, well, okay, I'm this is a this is a

878
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:24,920
huge one right here. And I knew that we were

879
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:25,719
going to talk about this.

880
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 3: So I'll throw this out there, and this is something

881
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,000
that if you haven't looked into, go ahead and look

882
00:48:33,039 --> 00:48:35,559
into it, and you're going to find out that everything

883
00:48:35,559 --> 00:48:41,039
I'm saying is one hundred percent truth. So at the

884
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,679
end of Window Man, I had decided that I wasn't

885
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,000
sure that I wanted to actually do this anymore. You know,

886
00:48:48,039 --> 00:48:50,440
at the end of the book, I decided I wasn't sure,

887
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,519
but I left it open in saying, in the words

888
00:48:53,519 --> 00:48:57,280
of Rocky Balboa, id to hear Nobell one more round,

889
00:48:57,519 --> 00:49:02,440
like maybe I might actually do it. And so something

890
00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:07,360
happened that forced me back into this situation.

891
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 2: There was a very very public execution.

892
00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:18,199
Speaker 3: And with this very public execution, I believed that I

893
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:23,119
could stop it, and so I tried. I stepped into

894
00:49:23,159 --> 00:49:25,719
the situation, and this was the first time that I

895
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:31,119
had ever put myself in the public forum doing something

896
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:35,000
like this. This was I'm on the world stage, and

897
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:38,239
so I stepped in. And this is where I met

898
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,760
the Darker Force, which is the reason that I called

899
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:46,280
the second book the Darker Force. So it suspended everything

900
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,840
that I could do. There was and I'm talking about

901
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:55,159
not just in like the supernatural I'm talking about physically

902
00:49:55,639 --> 00:49:59,239
and everything. There were times I couldn't even move. Phone

903
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,920
calls that were that I tried to make were shut down.

904
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,239
Everything that I tried to do. There was nothing I

905
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:11,280
could do to save this person. So being an author

906
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,400
is a gifting that I have. I said, you know what,

907
00:50:14,519 --> 00:50:17,199
all right, I'm I'm just going to write a book,

908
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:23,599
and if the book releases before this happens, then this

909
00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:28,039
person will know. And so I wrote the book, published

910
00:50:28,039 --> 00:50:32,320
it through a small publishing company, and it released one

911
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:37,920
day before the murder. And that was the best I could.

912
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,960
We pushed so hard to get it through. I pushed

913
00:50:41,039 --> 00:50:46,039
so hard to get it through, and later on they

914
00:50:46,079 --> 00:50:48,880
tried to say that it was published two days after.

915
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,719
None of it makes sense anyway, because I have my

916
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,719
book Window Man right here that I wrote and it

917
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,400
took me five days get.

918
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 2: It approved through Amazon.

919
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,039
Speaker 3: And we're talking about a finished product, right, We're not

920
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:09,639
talking about something that just got written and then got

921
00:51:09,679 --> 00:51:10,679
pushed through Amazon.

922
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 2: It doesn't happen like that.

923
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 3: You don't get a publisher for something that you just did,

924
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,639
you know afterwards, and and all of a sudden, it's

925
00:51:18,679 --> 00:51:20,280
two days later, it's it's out there.

926
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,519
Speaker 2: It's impossible. It's a one impossibility. Okay.

927
00:51:25,079 --> 00:51:28,199
Speaker 3: Now, then they go ahead and they dismissed the book

928
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:33,039
as AI slop and they say, yeah, it's no good,

929
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,400
it's slopped, and they just obliterate it from the internet. Now,

930
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,440
if you're going to obliterate this from the internet when

931
00:51:41,519 --> 00:51:45,519
it has an opportunity to make money, why, I mean,

932
00:51:45,639 --> 00:51:49,599
AI slot can make money, right, there's a reason that

933
00:51:49,639 --> 00:51:52,840
they don't want you to see it. Later on, I

934
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,119
actually found a digital copy of the book and they

935
00:51:56,159 --> 00:52:01,880
had changed multitudes of things, like there was a situation

936
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,840
where they said that in this murder situation, and I

937
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,159
will go into this and I won't just leave everybody hanging,

938
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,199
but that they ran up and put pressure on the wound,

939
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,639
and that they ran ivs and all of these things

940
00:52:14,679 --> 00:52:17,960
which we know were not true, that that's not what

941
00:52:18,119 --> 00:52:21,000
actually happened at the event, but they do that in

942
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:24,199
order to make it seem like it's not real. These

943
00:52:24,199 --> 00:52:27,719
were things that they changed. And I'm just going to

944
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,880
go ahead and throw this out here right now. What

945
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,880
I am talking about is the murder of Charlie Kirk,

946
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,280
and I am talking about a book called The Shooting

947
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,280
of Charlie Kirk, and it was written by someone called

948
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,360
Anastasia J.

949
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:42,039
Speaker 2: Casey.

950
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,559
Speaker 3: And what I'm telling you is that I'm the author

951
00:52:44,679 --> 00:52:49,280
of that book, and I actually have some things where

952
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,199
I've encoded it so that people would know. I didn't

953
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,719
wasn't that I wanted everyone to know, but I wanted

954
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,119
my family at least to know that this was never

955
00:52:57,199 --> 00:52:59,480
going to come out. I never wanted this to come out,

956
00:52:59,559 --> 00:53:01,639
but at the time same time, I'm kind of pissed

957
00:53:01,679 --> 00:53:04,159
off in the way that they handled it, you know.

958
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:10,800
So my firstborn son, his name is Antonio. First two

959
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,440
letters of his name are an. My second born son,

960
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,559
his name is Carmine in the first two letters of

961
00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:20,559
his name are C A, as well as my last name,

962
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:23,119
which is c A, which are also the first two

963
00:53:23,199 --> 00:53:25,480
letters of Anastasia and Casey.

964
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:33,599
Speaker 1: I remember that again, this was six months ago, but

965
00:53:33,639 --> 00:53:36,800
I remember someone on social media posting about the book

966
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,239
and they showed that the date on it was the

967
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,360
day before. And then I remember the whole AI thing,

968
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,199
and I remember it was completely taking off the internet

969
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,760
us all. I remember all of that. I saw some

970
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,760
of that stuff because I go down the rabbit Hole

971
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,199
conspiracy group pages and on Breddit and everything else, and

972
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,719
there was post on there about that. So that is

973
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:56,559
interesting to me.

974
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,159
Speaker 3: I mean, especially since I'm telling everyone that I am

975
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:06,320
quite literally moving through time and people have asked so

976
00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:10,000
often about that book online. There's multiple, you know, pages

977
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,519
where people are talking about that thing.

978
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 2: And I am saying, now that that question is answered,

979
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:15,599
that I'm answering.

980
00:54:15,199 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: It didn't you. Is there a reason why you use

981
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,760
the pseudonym Sweden m whatever the how to pronounce.

982
00:54:24,519 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: For that name, because originally I didn't. I didn't want

983
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,159
anyone to know. This was never going to be something

984
00:54:31,159 --> 00:54:34,239
that was going to get put out there. Also, it

985
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,400
was paid in cash from a small publishing company and

986
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:41,039
I didn't and the actual author copy is burned. It

987
00:54:41,079 --> 00:54:43,679
was never going to be anything that I wanted. Because

988
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,679
one I talked about this earlier, when you asked me

989
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:52,719
about profiting, you can't profit. If you attempt to profit,

990
00:54:53,039 --> 00:54:56,360
it attacks you. Therefore, I could not profit off the

991
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,719
book anyway, and I didn't want it to be traced

992
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,119
back to me in any way.

993
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:05,159
Speaker 2: So that's the reason why if there's questions about that,

994
00:55:05,159 --> 00:55:05,639
that's why.

995
00:55:06,599 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because I just remember when I saw that it

996
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,239
was literally like a day or two after the whole

997
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,000
thing had happened, someone had been posting that book and

998
00:55:16,039 --> 00:55:19,920
there's a big old rabbit hole about the book and

999
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,119
there was no information about the author. People were saying

1000
00:55:24,159 --> 00:55:26,719
the author wasn't a real person, and that's when the

1001
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,920
whole AI thing came about. But I was thinking, even

1002
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,519
if it was AI, someone still has to program the

1003
00:55:33,559 --> 00:55:36,679
AI to create a book. They had to put it

1004
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,280
up on Amazon, it has to go through an approval process.

1005
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,159
It's not just something that they could have done instantaneously,

1006
00:55:43,199 --> 00:55:45,559
because I've released stuff through Amazon too, and it does

1007
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:48,079
take several days far to go through the processing. So

1008
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,519
for me, I was like, it's awful convenient that it

1009
00:55:51,559 --> 00:55:55,559
comes out the original date was the day before and

1010
00:55:55,599 --> 00:55:57,559
then then the show and is like two days afterwards.

1011
00:55:57,559 --> 00:55:59,320
I was like, someone would have had to literally have

1012
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:05,679
written a book in a day with AI got everything

1013
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,119
that like, it just the timeframe didn't match up. It

1014
00:56:08,119 --> 00:56:09,440
didn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

1015
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,519
Speaker 2: No, I mean it one hundred percent makes no sense.

1016
00:56:14,039 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 3: Uh, there's no way it could have went through that fast,

1017
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,880
and there's and why did they even change the date?

1018
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,800
Nobody changes the date on when it's released. But they

1019
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:23,199
did hear.

1020
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:24,079
Speaker 2: Uh.

1021
00:56:24,159 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 3: They don't scrub things from the internet. Generally speaking. They

1022
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:32,000
might say this book is, you know, not available anymore

1023
00:56:32,039 --> 00:56:35,840
or whatever for whatever reason. But but to completely scrub it,

1024
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,400
that's that's a little suspicious, right, that's, as we say,

1025
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,119
a little suss.

1026
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is very very suss because I have noticed too,

1027
00:56:45,519 --> 00:56:48,840
like if I order copies of the books that I've made,

1028
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,320
the date on them of when they've were printed does change,

1029
00:56:53,639 --> 00:56:56,400
but the actual date that it was uploaded should have

1030
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:57,119
never changed.

1031
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:03,559
Speaker 3: No, yeah, breathing, So this is exactly what I'm talking about.

1032
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,719
There are things that they attempt to hide, and they

1033
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,800
do for a reason, and there's a bunch of them

1034
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:14,119
that I'm sure you're very familiar with. For example, are

1035
00:57:14,119 --> 00:57:18,320
you familiar with Danny Gohler and his experiment where he

1036
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,840
was showing that there is a code that there literally is,

1037
00:57:22,119 --> 00:57:26,840
and they were looking at it through red NM sixty

1038
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,079
five diffracted laser and what they did is they put

1039
00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:33,159
the people on DMT. Now I understand the DMT is

1040
00:57:33,199 --> 00:57:35,880
a hallucinogenic drug. We've talked about that before. But the

1041
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,519
fact is is that when people have hallucinogenic drugs.

1042
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 2: They see different things.

1043
00:57:42,679 --> 00:57:46,239
Speaker 3: You don't all see the same thing, right, but everybody

1044
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:50,599
seem to see the same thing. And so what I'm

1045
00:57:50,599 --> 00:57:52,679
saying is, all of a sudden they come out and

1046
00:57:52,719 --> 00:57:55,039
they debunk this and they say this guy's a nut.

1047
00:57:55,079 --> 00:57:59,239
This isn't true, and they make him sound like a crazy.

1048
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,400
It's not the case. He was seeing the code. And

1049
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,239
they did the same thing with Max Laughlin. If you've

1050
00:58:06,239 --> 00:58:09,480
ever looked into him's thirteen year old kids, saying that

1051
00:58:09,519 --> 00:58:13,639
there was these different dimensions and different realities and he

1052
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,840
ended up creating some a way to create free energy.

1053
00:58:18,119 --> 00:58:20,239
And what they did is they they shut him up.

1054
00:58:20,559 --> 00:58:23,440
All of a sudden, he's not talking anymore. They were

1055
00:58:23,519 --> 00:58:25,719
that he was supposed to go to these big conferences

1056
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,679
and say things and just no more. Because that's that's

1057
00:58:29,679 --> 00:58:33,039
how they do. They say you're crazy. When they can't

1058
00:58:33,079 --> 00:58:37,679
prove that you're crazy, then they threaten you. When they

1059
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,519
threaten you, if that doesn't work, then they finish you.

1060
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: Kind of like what they did to Nicola Tesslo years ago.

1061
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 2: Yes, Nikola Tesla. Yeah.

1062
00:58:50,159 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 3: And one of the greatest things that I loved about

1063
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,000
what he said was that if we understood the power

1064
00:58:56,079 --> 00:58:59,559
of three six nine that we would conceivably run the universe, right,

1065
00:59:00,679 --> 00:59:04,400
So there there is so much in those numbers, and

1066
00:59:04,519 --> 00:59:07,480
that that's actually part of you know, the things that

1067
00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:09,840
I'll be teaching, you know, in my in my school program,

1068
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,920
when I'm helping people to learn who they truly are.

1069
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit more about the schooling stuff

1070
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:21,960
before he finishes. Is this something you just started doing

1071
00:59:22,039 --> 00:59:23,000
recently or.

1072
00:59:23,559 --> 00:59:26,039
Speaker 3: Yes, this is a gist. I haven't even released the

1073
00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:29,920
first one yet. Okay, so so we we we just

1074
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,400
got on there and I'm really looking forward to that

1075
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:37,079
should be next week when we release the first teachings.

1076
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: Okay, Now, is that something you're offering for free or

1077
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:42,320
is it something that.

1078
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,239
Speaker 2: You're that one.

1079
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,079
Speaker 3: No, we're we're not, but we're not very high priced realistically.

1080
00:59:49,039 --> 00:59:51,960
It's uh, there's people on there that are, you know,

1081
00:59:52,599 --> 00:59:54,840
one hundred and something dollars a month. We're talking twenty

1082
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,719
three dollars a month. It's just for my time to actually,

1083
00:59:57,719 --> 01:00:01,679
you know, create spend my time doing it. But I

1084
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,320
just really want people to have a chance to find

1085
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,559
out who they are. And it's more about that than

1086
01:00:07,599 --> 01:00:09,519
it is about the money. But we all have to

1087
01:00:09,519 --> 01:00:10,920
make a living and do the things that we.

1088
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 2: Have to do.

1089
01:00:11,679 --> 01:00:15,119
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I get it. I've said that too. It's

1090
01:00:15,159 --> 01:00:21,519
like I do this podcast and there's commercials that get

1091
01:00:21,559 --> 01:00:24,360
put in here for when people listen, or there's advertisements.

1092
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,800
I don't have any control over what advertisements are placed

1093
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,480
or whatever, but it's like it's kind of like selling

1094
01:00:28,519 --> 01:00:30,920
out at that point because you have to make money

1095
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,599
to cover the overhead cost of doing something like this.

1096
01:00:33,679 --> 01:00:38,239
Because people like to complain, but I put a lot

1097
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,719
of time, money, and energy into doing stuff like this,

1098
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,920
so I can't just keep doing it at a loss.

1099
01:00:45,239 --> 01:00:50,000
Even though I'm still at a loss, it's not it's

1100
01:00:50,039 --> 01:00:52,440
not as deep of a loss as it has been,

1101
01:00:53,159 --> 01:00:53,719
not as deep.

1102
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, we all have to, you know, we got

1103
01:00:58,719 --> 01:01:00,679
to make a living somehow and do and what we do.

1104
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,960
So right, I understand that one hundred percent.

1105
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:08,119
Speaker 1: Where can anyone find information about the classes that you're

1106
01:01:08,119 --> 01:01:08,840
going to be offering?

1107
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,559
Speaker 3: Uh, you can go on school the app itself and

1108
01:01:15,079 --> 01:01:19,000
just look up your supernatural too or will Cameron and

1109
01:01:19,039 --> 01:01:21,280
it should and it should show up on there and

1110
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,639
they can read about it on the actual app itself.

1111
01:01:25,119 --> 01:01:28,320
I haven't been advertising, you know, outside of the app yet. Well,

1112
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:32,000
probably will do that in the future, but but for now,

1113
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,159
You're Supernatural too, is what it's called.

1114
01:01:34,239 --> 01:01:36,159
Speaker 2: And even just go on the school app and find it.

1115
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,639
Speaker 1: And so by the time this episode airs, it will

1116
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,679
probably already be available at that point, because I'm usually

1117
01:01:42,119 --> 01:01:45,400
several weeks ahead of recording schedules, so before it gets

1118
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,280
released before.

1119
01:01:47,039 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 3: Okay, so everybody out there, it's it's already out Thereah.

1120
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,559
Speaker 1: It should already be out there before we kind of

1121
01:01:52,559 --> 01:01:54,360
wrap things up. There's a couple of things I actually

1122
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,320
wanted to ask, like, when you're doing the window Man

1123
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,400
and everything, is this something that you would want to

1124
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,000
share with other people have had to maybe figure something

1125
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,159
out like that, or you think there's too much ramifications

1126
01:02:06,199 --> 01:02:09,719
for going and giving that possible abilities to other people.

1127
01:02:11,159 --> 01:02:17,559
Speaker 3: Well, first, I don't believe that everyone as the window

1128
01:02:17,639 --> 01:02:22,559
Man or as or that's their gift. I believe everyone's

1129
01:02:22,679 --> 01:02:27,840
is unique, So I don't know what their gifting would

1130
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,559
look like. I just want to help people step into it.

1131
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:35,280
And I do think that they're all for use. They're

1132
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,719
all They weren't given for no reason, and not even

1133
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,519
this one was given for no reason. This was there

1134
01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:45,239
even with the ramifications and all of the things that

1135
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,280
I've seen, you know, where it's tried to kill me,

1136
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:52,559
where it's tried to do multiple things. There's a reason

1137
01:02:52,599 --> 01:02:55,960
behind it. And so there's a reason behind everyone's gifts.

1138
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,400
So yes, I want to help them unlock their gifts,

1139
01:02:58,599 --> 01:03:02,280
believing that, uh, that's how we bring about the end.

1140
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 2: At the end of the simulation.

1141
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:11,239
Speaker 1: What is after the simulation? Have any any England any

1142
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:16,239
idea of what could possibly be after the simulation, like

1143
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,480
if we were at all to wake up from the simulation, like,

1144
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:19,199
what would it be?

1145
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 2: Okay?

1146
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I have my my beliefs on that,

1147
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,559
and I believe that the that the darker force, I

1148
01:03:27,639 --> 01:03:32,679
believe are the fallen ones. I believe that present when

1149
01:03:32,679 --> 01:03:36,039
the code was written, and that when we wake up,

1150
01:03:36,599 --> 01:03:42,280
that we we transcend this thing and and see who

1151
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,639
we really are and where we really came from, you know,

1152
01:03:45,719 --> 01:03:48,079
and stare into the face of the Creator. I believe

1153
01:03:48,159 --> 01:03:51,960
that one hundred percent that this is uh, this is

1154
01:03:52,119 --> 01:03:56,559
just us being locked in something a prison for our

1155
01:03:56,559 --> 01:04:00,000
minds until we actually awaken and we we find out

1156
01:04:00,039 --> 01:04:02,159
who we truly are. And I can say this that

1157
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,320
I believe that of the two hundred that are falling

1158
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:11,280
that and that's how many that they couldn't stand against

1159
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:15,960
one fully awakened. It's a that's how powerful we truly are,

1160
01:04:16,119 --> 01:04:17,519
and people just don't understand that.

1161
01:04:18,119 --> 01:04:20,239
Speaker 2: And this is what that's the thing that.

1162
01:04:20,119 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 3: We need to step into our giftings in order to

1163
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,320
to exit this thing.

1164
01:04:26,639 --> 01:04:28,199
Speaker 2: And when we do, we're going to find out that

1165
01:04:28,239 --> 01:04:30,280
we were far more powerful than we ever imagined.

1166
01:04:31,239 --> 01:04:33,159
Speaker 1: You said there was two hundred fall on a zero

1167
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,719
reason that you know that there's two hundred.

1168
01:04:36,719 --> 01:04:46,519
Speaker 2: Yes, there are two hundred craters. Okay, yeah, in the

1169
01:04:46,639 --> 01:04:47,239
in the earth.

1170
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,119
Speaker 3: This is where it's one's still on fire actually, which

1171
01:04:50,159 --> 01:04:51,920
is kind of which is kind of interesting. There are

1172
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,840
two hundred creators. This is where they came through. Okay,

1173
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,360
that's that's exactly what happened there.

1174
01:04:57,519 --> 01:05:01,199
Speaker 1: I actually saw I saw things. Someone sent it to

1175
01:05:01,239 --> 01:05:03,719
me about a month and a half, two months ago.

1176
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,519
It was actually a link to a page I did

1177
01:05:06,559 --> 01:05:09,440
an article about that that the craters were actually where

1178
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:15,239
the fallen it came from. So interesting, Again, we say,

1179
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:19,719
I don't believe in coincidences, So it's you just brought

1180
01:05:19,719 --> 01:05:21,239
something up to someone else that just said to me

1181
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,360
not long ago. So when I see things like that,

1182
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,519
it's just like, oh, okay, it's one of those things

1183
01:05:26,519 --> 01:05:29,239
like it's not de jeu vous, but it's like this

1184
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:30,480
was something that was meant to.

1185
01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:32,599
Speaker 2: Confirmation.

1186
01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it confirms some stuff for me. But well, we've

1187
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,480
been going on for a little over an hour. I

1188
01:05:39,519 --> 01:05:41,440
try and keep these right about at an hour. So

1189
01:05:41,519 --> 01:05:44,039
is there anything else you would like to discuss before

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we wrap these this up?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I could talk about you know, the

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frequency binders if you if you'd like to hear about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever you want to talk about, I'm good with that.

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Speaker 2: And this one.

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Speaker 3: And first of all, let me let me preface this

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by saying that the first two that I'm going to

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give you, and this isn't all of them, but the

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first two that I'm going to give you are going

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to be things that are easy to understand. The third

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one is something that will actually probably bring a whole

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bunch of comments and it probably permeate the comments section

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more than anything we've talked about, which is kind of crazy,

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but because we've said some ridiculous things. But the first

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thing is your your job, you know, working a forty

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hour week job, where you're basically focused on only your

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evenings and your weekends.

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Speaker 2: It you bound in.

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Speaker 3: A in a lower frequency where your in frustration and

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all of these different things, and so you don't actually

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look inward because you're you're too focused on these moments.

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Speaker 2: That you have that are your your peace time.

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Speaker 3: So so obviously I think a lot of people look

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at that and go, yeah, that's that's true. The second

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is your screens, you know, I mean your television, your computer,

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your phone, all all of these things they keep you bound.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're.

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Speaker 3: Scrolling, just doom scrolling, looking through you know, different things,

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and you know, taking a hit of dopamine that we

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get whenever we you know, see somebody likes our post,

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and that keeps you bound as well.

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Speaker 2: So these things are things that need to be limited.

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Speaker 3: And I understand that, like a forty hour week job

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for some people is just something you can't get around.

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Speaker 2: It's a very tough thing.

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Speaker 3: But if we could get ourselves into a place where

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we were making our own hours and we were doing

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something we loved versus something that we hate and working

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for somebody else, then that helps you to elevate your frequency.

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But the third one, the one that is most I

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guess it pisses most people off. And I don't really

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care because the truth of the matter is, it's like

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I'm here to tell truth, and if truth offends people,

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then it offends people. But animals are huge frequency binders

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and uh and chief amongst those animals are dogs. And

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the reason being that dogs are such frequency binders. And

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like I said, I won't just say it, I will

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explain it. A dog's bark, let's off a frequency that

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lowers your own, okay, and anytime that you have more

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than one dog, you're compounding all these effects. Like so

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it's it's it's way worse. Number two, A dog has

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a smell. Now your old factory is picking that up.

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Regardless of whether you go nose blind to it or not,

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it's still being picked up and it's lowering your frequency.

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You set on your couch, you get hair on your clothes.

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Now you got this hair on your clothes, and now

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you're pissed, right, So it's lowering your frequency. When you're

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trying to go out. You got to take a lint

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roller to yourself. This is not this is not something

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you want to do. You step outside, you step in

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01:08:57,079 --> 01:09:01,039
a landmine. Okay, now you're frustrated. Some people say, man,

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I'm good at cleaning it all up. So you're spending

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your life, you know, picking up crap, which is also

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not something that is helpful to your frequency. You want

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to go somewhere, and you can't go anywhere because nobody

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01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,239
wants to take care of the dog or the multiple

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dogs in a lot of cases. So now it's like

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you have a couple of choices. One choice is I

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don't go. Second choice is I pay somebody, and now

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that comes out of my trip fund, and now I

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don't get to do all the things that I wanted

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to do. And then you've got your third choice, which

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is I take them with me, and now they're lowering

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my frequency and a time it should be raising. And

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so you know, like I said, I don't like to

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spend too much time on that, and I do want

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to give a disclaimer and say that I also understand

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for people out there that you know, there are seeing

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eye dogs that do some really good things. They are

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bloodhounds that have found you know, the dead bodies and

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things like that. There are or tracked people down there

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is the canines who work for the police, department and

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defend you know, police life officer lives things like that.

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And some heroic dogs have done some stuff. Heck, a

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dog saved my own dad's life, drug him in from

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out in the water when he was cramping up. There

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are heroic acts that happened, but they just weren't simply

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meant to be in every single house across them.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything like you talk about dogs, but is

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there anything other than like other animal type aspects to

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it that have similarities to that or is it just h.

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Speaker 3: You mean other animals that do the same things. Yeah,

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oh absolutely, a cat's they do the same thing.

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Speaker 2: I've got a cat. I didn't have a cat.

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Speaker 3: My ex wife had a cat and it was her

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01:10:47,239 --> 01:10:49,159
daughter's and it would come over and it would stick

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its hand underneath the little space in the door at night,

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01:10:52,079 --> 01:10:54,720
and it would smack the door, you know, or when

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you're trying to sleep, it would run and it would

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just jump into the blinds, you know, in the window.

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It just it did ridiculous things. And so cats are

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only a little bit better than dogs. And I say

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that because you can generally kind of leave a cat alone, right,

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01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,960
you know, whereas you can't really leave a dog alone.

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01:11:15,359 --> 01:11:20,039
So a cat gets just that little notch being slightly

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better than the dog as far as that goes.

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Speaker 2: And then they don't bark.

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Speaker 3: They do do their meowing and all that kind of stuff,

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but it's it's not as bad, but still they're they're close.

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A lot of animals do bind the frequency, and it's

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I know it's hard for people to understand, but it's

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it's the truth.

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Speaker 1: Is it better off to not have a pet.

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Speaker 3: For all the people out there, yes, yes, it is

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one hundred percent better off not to have a pet.

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You know, I've said this multiple times before, but I

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think that a dog or an animal is really just

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especially a dog, is just looking for something that you want,

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and you're making it the dog. For example, you want

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home protection, you want something to alert you, right, It's like,

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01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,399
well an alarm would do that. You want protection, a

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01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:23,640
gun would do that. Do you want companionship? A partner

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01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:27,359
would do that? You know. So it's just it's not

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necessary in every case to have a dog, and we've

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made it this very normal thing for everybody to have

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dogs in multiple in a lot of cases.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have two dogs, two cats, and two goats.

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Speaker 2: Goats, I would imagine the goats probably give you the

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least hard time. Huh.

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Speaker 1: The goats are about the easiest to maintain because they

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live out back and eat the grass and rarely do

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I have to go and do anything with them. But

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01:12:54,199 --> 01:12:55,840
if they see me, they still go out there and

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scream that they want me to feed them, even though

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they've got acres of grass to go eat.

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Speaker 2: If given the choice, I would take the goats.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the goats. They can be pretty funny. They're goofy,

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01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:16,960
but they're also dumb but also smart. They're the smartest

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01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:18,119
dumb animal I've ever.

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Speaker 2: Seen, the smartest dumb man.

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Speaker 1: Why of that, they get their heads stuck in the fence,

1332
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,279
but they will figure out ways to escape that you

1333
01:13:24,319 --> 01:13:30,560
wouldn't think they'd figure out. So it's just kind of crazy. Well, well,

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you can probably wrap this one up, but before we do,

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for anyone that's curious and interested, is there a way

1336
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,720
for them to reach out to you they'd like to

1337
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:39,720
talk with you or something?

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01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 2: Sure?

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01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I have a TikTok at Papa Will's Reviews.

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01:13:47,039 --> 01:13:49,399
Speaker 2: And I do food.

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01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:53,520
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a food critic, so food reviews on there,

1342
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and yeah, if somebody'd like to d m me. Go

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go right ahead. You can message me on school as well.

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01:14:00,319 --> 01:14:02,439
If that's something you'd like to do. You can look

1345
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,720
me up on Facebook. I have a page just under

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01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:11,079
Will Cameron, so Instagram all kinds of different places where

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01:14:11,119 --> 01:14:13,600
people could could go ahead and message me and d

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01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:17,159
m me. I'm more than happy to get back to everybody.

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Speaker 1: Awesome. I will try it and remember to put that

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in the show notes, or if you send it to

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me in an email, I'll just copy it and put

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it in there.

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Speaker 2: All right, you got it?

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01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,359
Speaker 1: Well, Will, It has been a pleasure talking to you.

1355
01:14:28,399 --> 01:14:32,000
It's very interesting, very informative, and gives you a lot

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01:14:32,119 --> 01:14:33,239
to think about.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome. It was a pleasure. I enjoyed it very much.

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Speaker 1: Well, you have a good night, all right, you do.

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