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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, Dan Walkins, thank you very much. We are

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<v Speaker 1>going to change topics. And there was a news conference yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>UH in Washington, which I want to catch you up

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<v Speaker 1>on because I think it's really important. Eight artificial dies

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<v Speaker 1>that are that have been used in our foods, in

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<v Speaker 1>candy and ice cream and soft drinks in jams are

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<v Speaker 1>by the end of next year, will be eliminated, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>from not only food supply but also medications. These artificial

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<v Speaker 1>dies were being in Europe, I guess, many many years ago. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>And the statistics that Robert F. Kennedy Junior sites, and

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<v Speaker 1>I assume they're accurate, shows that there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>diseases that we're particularly young kids, are dealing with here

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<v Speaker 1>in America that either don't exist or exist in the

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<v Speaker 1>smallest amounts in Europe. Even though obviously our diet is

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<v Speaker 1>fairly close to what the you know, diet of most

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<v Speaker 1>European countries are. This news conference was yesterday, and these

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<v Speaker 1>dyes have no value other than I guess, providing coloration

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<v Speaker 1>to foods that we eat. Now. Look, I love fruits

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<v Speaker 1>and vegetables like all of you do. And I assume

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<v Speaker 1>that fruits and vegetables that we eat have natural color.

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<v Speaker 1>Apples tend to be red depending upon the type. Obviously oranges.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, no one's painting the peel of an orange.

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<v Speaker 1>I had an orange today. Lovely bananas. They their natural

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<v Speaker 1>color is yellow. We're not talking about that, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about are these dyes and they head like these.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess FD plus C stands for food dye plus

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<v Speaker 1>color blue number one and two. There's a green number three,

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<v Speaker 1>a red four, D red forty excuse me, a yellow

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<v Speaker 1>five and six. And in the coming months, the process

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<v Speaker 1>will begin to reduce authorization of orange B citrus red

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<v Speaker 1>number two. So this is used by these companies when

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<v Speaker 1>they want to make food. And I guess that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of them are in cereals. Okay, and we've been

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<v Speaker 1>eating this junk for years, for years. We have some

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<v Speaker 1>sound here. This is FDA Commissioner doctor Marty mcmaccuarie, McCurry McCarey.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, he's been a guest on this show. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a transplant surgeon, actually the head of the transplant

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<v Speaker 1>surgeon team at Johns Hopkins. So we're talking about some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty legitimate people. This was his comment. Yes, these are

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<v Speaker 1>called synthetic petroleum based food dies cut twenty seven. Please Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>This is doctor mckein.

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<v Speaker 2>Today, the FDA is taking the following steps. Number one,

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<v Speaker 2>establishing a national standard and timeline for the food industry

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<v Speaker 2>to transition from petroleum based food dyes to natural alternatives.

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<v Speaker 2>Number two, initiating a process to revoke authorization of synthetic

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<v Speaker 2>food colorings, including those not in production, namely citrus red

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<v Speaker 2>number two and orange B within the coming weeks. Number three,

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<v Speaker 2>taking steps to eliminate the remaining six synthetic dies on

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<v Speaker 2>the market from the US food supply, specifically red dye

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<v Speaker 2>number forty, yellow dye number five, Yellow dye number six,

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<v Speaker 2>Blue die number one, Blue die number two, and Green

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<v Speaker 2>dye number three by the end of next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor mccairy went on to talk about this as a

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<v Speaker 1>political issue. It's not a Republican or a Democratic or

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<v Speaker 1>an independent issue. Moms across America have been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this for a long time, and ironically, ironically, finally it

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<v Speaker 1>is the Health and Human Secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Junior

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<v Speaker 1>in the administration of Donald Trump who is taking this

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<v Speaker 1>action against these companies. This is cut number thirty. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is a very important point that McCarry makes.

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<v Speaker 2>If we can get beyond the tribalism in our society

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<v Speaker 2>rampant in our culture, we will realize that we all

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<v Speaker 2>want the same things. Republican, Democrat and independent moms showed

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<v Speaker 2>up in high numbers to vote for President Trump on

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<v Speaker 2>this very issue that Secretary Kennedy has championed. Moms across

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<v Speaker 2>America have spoken and they want more honesty and humility

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<v Speaker 2>from our nation's healthcare leaders.

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<v Speaker 1>I think of all these people who have been in

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<v Speaker 1>these positions, Republicans and Democrats for years. Look, it's too

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<v Speaker 1>late for people like me. I grew up eating this junk.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you're over the age of thirty five,

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<v Speaker 1>you grew up eating this junk. But thank God, finally

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<v Speaker 1>this junk is going to be taken away from the

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<v Speaker 1>diet of our children and our grandchildren.

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<v Speaker 3>This is.

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<v Speaker 1>Health and Human Services Secretary Kennedy. Let me just again,

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<v Speaker 1>he gets a lot, he gets I think all the

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<v Speaker 1>credit of this. Let's play cut twenty six, please, Rob.

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<v Speaker 4>There's shockingly few studies even on food dies and on

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<v Speaker 4>all these other industries, all these other ingredients as well,

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<v Speaker 4>and Jay Bodichara, who is here and who was running

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<v Speaker 4>on the director of Niage, is now narrowly targeting He's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of food out added EBS or scientific study. One

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<v Speaker 4>by one, we can start eliminating with them where they can,

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<v Speaker 4>where we can't. There's things that will never be able

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<v Speaker 4>to eliminate, like sugar, and sugar is poison and Americans

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<v Speaker 4>need to know that it is poisoning us.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just think, I'm I'm very happy, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care if this was done by the Biden administration

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<v Speaker 1>or Trump forty five or Obama or Bush or whomever.

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<v Speaker 1>It should have been done years ago. So I say

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<v Speaker 1>hats off to RFK Junior, and hats off to doctor

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<v Speaker 1>McCarey uh and and hats off to Donald Trump on this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that a lot of companies, big companies, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the serial manufacturers, the candy makers. Look, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>if if that food, if that, why would you put

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<v Speaker 1>anything to change the color of something? We ingest if

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<v Speaker 1>it has no value other than to change the color,

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<v Speaker 1>they do it so they sell the product. We'll take

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<v Speaker 1>a break six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six one seven nine three one ten thirty This is

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<v Speaker 1>one issue that Republicans, Democrats, independence, liberals and conservatives, progressives

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<v Speaker 1>and libertarians should be able to come together on. If

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<v Speaker 1>we can't come together on this issue, then we're hopeless

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<v Speaker 1>as a nation. Let's come together and let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to identify what part of the political

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<v Speaker 1>spectrum of you're on. But this is one that should

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<v Speaker 1>be celebrated by everyone. This junk never should have been

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<v Speaker 1>introduced to our foods in the first place. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was introduced, and the regulators stayed asleep, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were only been woken up in the last few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>by Bobby Kennedy, Junior, doctor McCarey and Yes, President Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump coming back on Nightside. If you're on Night Side

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<v Speaker 1>with Dan Ray on wz Boston's news radio. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's keep rolling here, going to go to Sheldon in Sharon, Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 1>Sheldon gonna start us off talking about red dyes. Go ahead, Sheldon,

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<v Speaker 1>I have.

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<v Speaker 5>Some ancient information for you from the nineteen seventies when

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<v Speaker 5>I worked at Cheeseboro Ponds, I was told that red

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<v Speaker 5>GUYE number six was only acceptable for use on Maraschino cherries.

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<v Speaker 6>My thoughts on that was it?

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<v Speaker 5>Probably people don't eat very much Marischino cherries, so it

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<v Speaker 5>was okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So why would they have to put a cherry is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be read naturally correct?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>So why would they have to or want to put?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know?

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<v Speaker 1>And what was the company you.

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<v Speaker 6>Were working for, Cheeseborow Ponds?

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<v Speaker 1>What did they make? Are they still in business? Are

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<v Speaker 1>they a cheese company or something? Or what are they?

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<v Speaker 6>No? No, Cheeseborow is somebody's last name, the chemist's last name?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, they still I've never heard of them, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they still in business?

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<v Speaker 6>You heard of Q tips?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Q Tips baby Gays was there since they made uh tender?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? So so okay, so so help help me out here.

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<v Speaker 1>I've just never heard of them. Where they located? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just curious, Sheldon.

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<v Speaker 6>They were in Trouble, Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, I know trouble. Yeah, okay, okay, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're they no longer. They've been absorbed by one of

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<v Speaker 1>the bigger companies, Eli Lilly, Okay, I got it, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much. I wish I knew everything that every

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<v Speaker 1>caller knows, but I'm always, i mean incessantly curious when

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<v Speaker 1>someone mentions to me something like that. But so they

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<v Speaker 1>were dealing with cherries, and they were adding a red

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<v Speaker 1>dye to a cherry to make it more appealing.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't get that some.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, but and well, look, apples come off of trees,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of them are are perfectly shaped red apples.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them are a little arc differently shaped. What

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<v Speaker 1>are we supposed to do? Pound these apples and make

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<v Speaker 1>them all the same color? You know, this, this whole

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<v Speaker 1>idea of this, this whole idea just bothers me. That's all. Well, Sheldon,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that you welcome this as much as I do. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that laugh, but that's okay. He

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<v Speaker 1>beg you, Sheldon. Appreciate you taking the time to call.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a great one, good night.

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<v Speaker 6>I have some questions for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Laugh by call anytime. Thanks, Sheldon. Let me go to

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<v Speaker 1>Lola down over across the country in San Diego. Lola,

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<v Speaker 1>I suspect that I suspect this is something you've been

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about, knowing you a little bit for a long time.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, So it's not just the red dye in the

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<v Speaker 7>food and in the cereal, I meat Okay, so let

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<v Speaker 7>me start off saying, allegedly, and in my opinion, the

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<v Speaker 7>meat has dye in it, the red meat, the ground beeft,

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<v Speaker 7>there's red dye in there. What about your toothpaste crest?

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's crest, it's red, white, and green. Where

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<v Speaker 7>are colors coming from?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? That's all great points.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, yes, yes, okay. And then then I just read

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<v Speaker 7>that the dyes that are used in tattoos they are

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<v Speaker 7>not approved by the FDA and they could possibly potentially

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<v Speaker 7>have lead in them. Yeah, and what about the hair

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<v Speaker 7>dyes that people are putting red hair? You know, you

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<v Speaker 7>got to bleach your hair out if you have doc here,

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<v Speaker 7>and then these dyes, these colors go in here, blue, purple,

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<v Speaker 7>It goes on and on and on. We shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 7>eating any food that has any coloring of any kind

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<v Speaker 7>unless it comes from beats. Beats a red. So you know,

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<v Speaker 7>if you eat a beat and drop it on your shirt,

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<v Speaker 7>your shirt turns red.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and I love beets, by the way, they want,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, Raspberries are another thing that will stay so natural

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<v Speaker 7>colors coming from food, that's the way to go. But

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<v Speaker 7>you know, call me crazy. But you know, I'm I

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<v Speaker 7>live in California now and I'm you know, the land

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<v Speaker 7>of fruits and nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're crazy at all. I think you've

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<v Speaker 1>been on top of this stuff for a long time

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<v Speaker 1>as always.

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<v Speaker 3>Lol.

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<v Speaker 1>I so appreciate you your loyalty to this program. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much, Thank you for taking my Thanks very much.

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<v Speaker 1>So we go next to Robin and Wellesley. Robert, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna maybe end the hour. We'll get to Jennifer right

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the eleven o'clock news.

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<v Speaker 8>Go ahead, Robert, Okay, thanks for bringing up this this topic.

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<v Speaker 8>And I suspect that the food coloring has been cheap,

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<v Speaker 8>cheaper than natural coloring is convenience for the manufacturer, and

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<v Speaker 8>I certainly think it should be removed and replaced by

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<v Speaker 8>natural alternatives, and such as the ones that your previous

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<v Speaker 8>color suggested. It's they're not they're not worth the risk.

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<v Speaker 8>And my gut feeling is they're not worth the risk.

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<v Speaker 8>And red meat does have coloring, but it's sodium nitrite.

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<v Speaker 8>You may have heard of it, which he is a

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<v Speaker 8>which isn't a an a fender that's been used for

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<v Speaker 8>years to keep to give meat a red color, and

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<v Speaker 8>it reacts with the the stomach acid to form nitrosa means,

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<v Speaker 8>which are percentogens.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's what you're for.

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<v Speaker 1>But let me just make a comment here if I can,

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<v Speaker 1>And again I'm not trying to interrupt you, but look,

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<v Speaker 1>we've learned that a lot of meat in our diet

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<v Speaker 1>is not a good thing. Now again, you and I

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<v Speaker 1>are both on the wrong side of fifty. So at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, whatever we've ingested and digested over our lifetimes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's done damage or whatever it's done to all of

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<v Speaker 1>our internals. Okay, but for young people, if the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of the red dye that was ejected into the meat

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<v Speaker 1>was to make the meat more attractive or palatable, that's

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<v Speaker 1>wrong for two reasons. If they're making something more attractive

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<v Speaker 1>or palatable to eat, and it's at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's much better to eat chicken and fish

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<v Speaker 1>than it is to eat meat. So not only are

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<v Speaker 1>they deceiving us about the real color of the product,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're also inducing us to eat more of a

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<v Speaker 1>and the events gonna come back and hurt you. Am

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<v Speaker 1>I right on that or wrong in your opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>You're saying, but don't give up on adults and the elderly,

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<v Speaker 3>because there's hope for us too, and especially in the

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<v Speaker 3>case of nitrustle meanings, because I first can have a

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<v Speaker 3>failure media effect. So it's good to get those out

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<v Speaker 3>and hopefully you'll be on the agenda at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, It's like, look, if I have a

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<v Speaker 1>friend of mine who's ninety years old and says they

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<v Speaker 1>want to start to exercise a little bit to get

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<v Speaker 1>some muscle tone, of course you do that, but realistically,

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<v Speaker 1>you get to a certain age and whatever damage has

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<v Speaker 1>been done. I'm thinking about my children and my grandchild

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<v Speaker 1>Grood children, That's what I'm thinking about, and keep that

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<v Speaker 1>lap out of there, out of their diets, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they won't deal with a lot of these issues that

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<v Speaker 1>we seem to have come up with in recent years. Robert,

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<v Speaker 1>I got you in before the news, so I got

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<v Speaker 1>to let you go. But as all always appreciate your

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<v Speaker 1>loyalty to Night's side. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, we are going to continue on this. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to celebrate this, I really do, and let's give

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<v Speaker 1>credit where credit is due all the politicians who have

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<v Speaker 1>been there forever. Okay uh, it took our FK Junior,

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<v Speaker 1>a doctor named Marty McCarey, and Donald Trump in his

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<v Speaker 1>second administration to accomplish this. You have the numbers, give

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<v Speaker 1>us a call. We'll be right back after eleven o'clock news.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about this because this is really important,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly if you have kids or grandkids coming back on

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside