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Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning into the show. Welcome to it. My
Speaker 2: name is Eric Lee, and I'm so glad to be
Speaker 2: back with you today. Yes, I've been gone. I've been gone.
Speaker 2: I think I think I'm suffering from fatigue, not physical fatigue,
Speaker 2: but what's happening in this country. I think I'm just Yes,
Speaker 2: you know how I feel. I feel that if I
Speaker 2: wake up, like you know, that this would have all
Speaker 2: been a dream, it was all a dream. A nightmare
Speaker 2: is more like it. But but unfortunately it's not a dream.
Speaker 2: It might it might feel like a dream, but unfortunately
Speaker 2: it is not a dream. I told y'all some weeks
Speaker 2: ago that I just feel like I just like talking
Speaker 2: about it. It exacerbates it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like I just feel And that's why I kind of
Speaker 2: haven't been doing the show because everything is so negative.
Speaker 2: And for those of you who have been fortunate enough
Speaker 2: to know me personally, you know that I am a
Speaker 2: very optimistic person and I'm one of those people that
Speaker 2: I see the glass half full instead of half empty.
Speaker 2: But what's going on in our nation? It never ceases
Speaker 2: to amaze me when I wake up, when the Lord
Speaker 2: wakes me up in the morning, and I pour myself
Speaker 2: that first cup of coffee, and I sit down on
Speaker 2: my sofa and I cut on either MS now because
Speaker 2: it's no longer MSNBC. I'm sure you know that, or CNN.
Speaker 2: All I see is negativity. There might be some little,
Speaker 2: you know, little little little positive things, but it's certainly
Speaker 2: not many. And you know, I feel like, have you
Speaker 2: ever wondered, like why some police officers and people in
Speaker 2: law enforcement are like, you know, like depressed because of
Speaker 2: the stuff that they see every day. Like I've heard
Speaker 2: a lot of police officers, you know, and and and
Speaker 2: spouses of police and law enforcement say that they don't
Speaker 2: even they don't even talk about what they see at
Speaker 2: home because it's it's depressing. They don't even they don't
Speaker 2: even bring it home, you know. I heard one woman
Speaker 2: say that, excuse me, that she knows when her husband
Speaker 2: has seen something pretty grim because when he gets home,
Speaker 2: he's silent. So she has learned to sort of let
Speaker 2: him go off and and and and and process what
Speaker 2: he needs to process. And she doesn't. She doesn't hound him,
Speaker 2: and she doesn't. You know, they've been married long enough
Speaker 2: that she knows that something went wrong at work, that
Speaker 2: he saw something some case that he is working on,
Speaker 2: and it's pretty bad. Do you feel that way? Like
Speaker 2: I feel that way now, you know? I just I
Speaker 2: feel that fatigue, you know, like I don't know, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't have I'm not gonna be with
Speaker 2: you very long today. I don't really even have any
Speaker 2: you know, like topic topics. I just wanted to talk,
Speaker 2: you know. I think I've been gone for three weeks.
Speaker 2: I think the last time we spoke, I think I
Speaker 2: was going to uh whom I don't even remember that.
Speaker 2: I don't even remember the last time we spoke. But
Speaker 2: I first and foremost want to say that at my
Speaker 2: thoughts in prayers go out to the Guthrie family. I
Speaker 2: know that you all have been hearing about this tragedy.
Speaker 2: Nancy Guthrie, who is the mother of Savannah Guthrie. I
Speaker 2: think Savannah is on the Today's Show. I think she's
Speaker 2: one of the Today's Show host or I believe that's it.
Speaker 2: Her mom was abducted several days ago, and I think
Speaker 2: she's eighty four and they still have not found her.
Speaker 2: So someone abducted her from her home in Arizona, and
Speaker 2: they have video of the person who they think did it.
Speaker 2: I think it was it was the night she I
Speaker 2: think it was the night she was abducted. They have
Speaker 2: video of the guy. Now of course he's in a
Speaker 2: ski mask and and you know things like that, dressed
Speaker 2: up in like tactical gear. He had like a weapon,
Speaker 2: and I just cannot imagine what they are going through.
Speaker 2: You guys know that things with mothers get me because
Speaker 2: I lost mine so very early on. I was five
Speaker 2: years old when my mother died. And I don't think
Speaker 2: that there is a day that goes by that I
Speaker 2: don't wish I could just pick up the phone and
Speaker 2: call my mother. She would be seventy six years old
Speaker 2: this year. Had she had she lived. And so I
Speaker 2: get I'm very you know, I get I get very
Speaker 2: you know my mother's you know, people, I just want
Speaker 2: to say love on your mother's. I know sometimes mothers
Speaker 2: can be a bit and you know, I've I've seen
Speaker 2: other people's mothers, you know, in in in action, and
Speaker 2: so I just just just love on on your your
Speaker 2: your mother you are so blessed if you still have
Speaker 2: your mother, you're blessed. Cherish that, Cherish that. And my
Speaker 2: father is still alive, and so I am forging. You know,
Speaker 2: I have a great relationship with him. But as you
Speaker 2: guys know it, it wasn't always this way. You know.
Speaker 2: My father and I, you know, we had to we
Speaker 2: had to work at our at at our relationship. Now
Speaker 2: we really did. My father, uh was not in a
Speaker 2: in a place where he could have taken care of
Speaker 2: me and my siblings back when when our mother died,
Speaker 2: and so and I could hold grudges, but I choose
Speaker 2: not to. I choose to move forward. He is a
Speaker 2: different man than he was back then. He had some
Speaker 2: challenges back then, but he is a completely different person.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, we're gonna get together tomorrow
Speaker 2: and yeah, but but I just can't imagine what the
Speaker 2: Guthrie family just And I know you guys saw saw
Speaker 2: that that that video message from Savannah and her brother
Speaker 2: and sister, and it's just it just broke my heart
Speaker 2: to know that your mother is out there and to
Speaker 2: not know whether or not she's okay. Apparently she's on medication.
Speaker 2: And Savannah said that she needs that medication to or vibe.
Speaker 2: I just saw on CNN that they found DNA at
Speaker 2: the house that does not belong to her. It does
Speaker 2: not belong to Nancy Guthrie. And so they are analyzing that.
Speaker 2: They found some gloves about ten miles away. Now I
Speaker 2: don't know if you know any of that stuff belongs to,
Speaker 2: you know, the perpetrator, you know, because not he's not
Speaker 2: the only one who wears gloves, you know. And I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure that there have been people that have come
Speaker 2: to see Missus Guthrie in her house. So you know,
Speaker 2: they're analyzing it to see, you know, to see if
Speaker 2: they can get any any leads from it. They they're
Speaker 2: saying that who they believe that whoever this is is
Speaker 2: an amateur because of the way number one on the
Speaker 2: video from from uh Missus Guthrie's ring cam, he was acting.
Speaker 2: They're saying that the way he's acting and how sloppy
Speaker 2: he was leads them to believe that he is not
Speaker 2: a professional, that he did not really kind of plan this,
Speaker 2: uh properly, if you can plan for kidnapping properly. But
Speaker 2: I understand what they're saying, that he's he was acting,
Speaker 2: uh sort of erratically, you know. So I just I
Speaker 2: I just pray and and and and I want And
Speaker 2: I don't know Savannah Guthrie, and I don't know her mother,
Speaker 2: Nancy Guthrie, but I know that she's a human being.
Speaker 2: And I would want someone to pray for my mom
Speaker 2: if that had happened to us. So please keep the
Speaker 2: Guthries in your prayers, and I pray to the Lord above,
Speaker 2: the sovereign God of the universe, that that woman is
Speaker 2: found alive. So the ice invasion of Minnesota apparently is over.
Speaker 2: Tom Holman says that he's pulling the Ice people out
Speaker 2: of Minnesota. So apparently Minnesota, from what I understand, was
Speaker 2: supposed to be a sanctuary city, and so that's why
Speaker 2: they sent all of those Ice agents in there to
Speaker 2: you know, get rid of, you know, the immigrants, those
Speaker 2: bad immigrants. Two American citizens have been killed. Now, first,
Speaker 2: I'm drinking my coffee. You might hear a slurp or two,
Speaker 2: but it's eight It's eighty eleven here in the great
Speaker 2: state of North Carolina. And so I'm having my morning
Speaker 2: coffee and I am doing this show. Y'all know how
Speaker 2: I love to do that. But anyway, two American citizens
Speaker 2: have been killed. Now, first they told us that they
Speaker 2: were gonna go after the worst of the worst. But see,
Speaker 2: I told y'all, how do you go after the worst
Speaker 2: of the worst illegal immigrants to two American citizens being killed? See,
Speaker 2: they told us we're gonna go after the worst of
Speaker 2: the worst. Will Apparently there there wasn't a whole lot
Speaker 2: of worst of the worst, because I told y'all that
Speaker 2: American citizens were gonna get swept up in this. I
Speaker 2: told y'all, I knew it. See, we're only we're only
Speaker 2: going after undocumented immigrants. Was how how they allowed how
Speaker 2: you know, how we allow them to do it? Well,
Speaker 2: let's just tell them that we're only going after illegal immigrants.
Speaker 2: But I told y'all that American citizens were going to
Speaker 2: start getting swept up in this stuff. And that is
Speaker 2: exactly what happened. People came out and protested. People saw
Speaker 2: what was going on. People getting pulled and drug out
Speaker 2: of their cars, people getting taken snatched off the street.
Speaker 2: I saw one I've saw not just one video, but
Speaker 2: another video where ICE agents went into people's houses and
Speaker 2: they say, where's your warrant? And we don't need a warrant.
Speaker 2: When did law enforcement not need a warrant? They were
Speaker 2: just able to just run rampant in Minnesota, and not
Speaker 2: just Minnesota but elsewhere too, But this Minnesota thing. And
Speaker 2: then did y'all hear what Governor Walls said that the
Speaker 2: the d o J said to him, give us your
Speaker 2: voter information and we'll leave. So right there, you see
Speaker 2: what it was really about. Give us your voter registration
Speaker 2: and we will leave. Two people, two American citizens, American citizens.
Speaker 2: I saw on the news the other day. Two American
Speaker 2: citizens dead. But you're supposed to be going after illegal
Speaker 2: immigrants and the worst of the worst. If you're committing
Speaker 2: crimes and doing bad things, we're gonna get you out
Speaker 2: of here. Yes, yes, if they are in this country
Speaker 2: illegally and committing crimes, yes, get them out of here.
Speaker 2: But what have we seen that most people that have
Speaker 2: been swept up in this don't even have have had
Speaker 2: no run ins with the law, no run ins with
Speaker 2: the law. I just saw that a judge did not
Speaker 2: allow them to deport a man who raised two US
Speaker 2: Marines that are currently right now serving in the United
Speaker 2: States Marine Corps. They try to deport their father and
Speaker 2: the judge said, Nope, you're not. I'm not gonna let
Speaker 2: you do that because they're not going after the worst
Speaker 2: of the worst. So I don't know, guys, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Senators are being targeted. Mark Kelly along
Speaker 2: with some other senators did a press conference and said
Speaker 2: to the military members, you don't have to obey illegal,
Speaker 2: illegal orders. And do you know that they try to
Speaker 2: prosecute them for seeing that that is the law. People.
Speaker 2: Those senators, I believe it was seven of them, said
Speaker 2: you do not have to obey illegal orders, and they
Speaker 2: went after them for stating the law. That is a law.
Speaker 2: By the way, you guys do know that, right, See,
Speaker 2: all of this is really about let us do what
Speaker 2: we want to do and you shut up about it.
Speaker 2: Let us do and say whatever it is we want
Speaker 2: to do and say, and you shut up, don't say
Speaker 2: anything about what we're doing. Well, they couldn't. They took
Speaker 2: it to a grand jury, and the grand jury said,
Speaker 2: get out of here, get out of here. Nope, grand
Speaker 2: jury said, we are not indicting these seven senators, indicting
Speaker 2: them for telling people to obey the law. And I
Speaker 2: know y'all saw the Attorney General of the United States
Speaker 2: before Congress. That you talk about a shame, talk about
Speaker 2: a hot, bubbling mess. She sat up there. I mean,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I because you know Epstein is still
Speaker 2: front and center. Oh how they wish, Oh how they
Speaker 2: wish that this Epstein thing would go away and they
Speaker 2: can stand up there all they want to. We should
Speaker 2: put this Epstein thing to bed. Where the American people
Speaker 2: ain't putting it to bed, not going to dorrit, not
Speaker 2: going to Dorri, not gonna dorret. They released all these
Speaker 2: files still redacted. Whatever happened to naming the people? Whatever
Speaker 2: happened to Pam Bondi when she said she got a
Speaker 2: list of names on her desk and would be releasing them.
Speaker 2: What happened to that? It was a disgrace. How she
Speaker 2: sat there as Attorney General of the United States, defiant,
Speaker 2: wouldn't even answer questions, wouldn't even look at the victims.
Speaker 2: Thomas Massey and it might be a few others, but
Speaker 2: Thomas Massey is is beating on the Republican side. He's
Speaker 2: standing up for righteousness. I might not agree with his politics.
Speaker 2: I might not agree with him on where we should
Speaker 2: spend money, and you know, you know the normal stuff
Speaker 2: that you know, we kind of you know, disagree on
Speaker 2: Democrat versus you know, Republican. But I believe that he's
Speaker 2: standing up for righteousness because at this point it should
Speaker 2: not be a Republican versus Democrat thing. It really shouldn't.
Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green, but she's gone, you know, I think
Speaker 2: January fifth was her last day in Congress. She near
Speaker 2: the end woke up, and I truly pray that a
Speaker 2: lot more Republicans wake up. See they all know, but
Speaker 2: they're scared. But I truly believe now Trump's approval ratings
Speaker 2: I just saw it was thirty is at thirty six percent,
Speaker 2: which is probably Alla Maga people, his supporters. I believe
Speaker 2: that if Republicans stood up right now, I don't believe
Speaker 2: they would lose primaries and elections. A year ago maybe,
Speaker 2: but today I don't think so. And I think that
Speaker 2: the Republican Party is going to pay a price at
Speaker 2: the polls for this. I really do. Don Lemon. They
Speaker 2: are trying to prosecute Don Lemon. If you remember, some
Speaker 2: protesters showed up at the church of one of ICE agents.
Speaker 2: Of the ICE agents, he's a pastor at a church,
Speaker 2: and they showed up to the church to protest. Now,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't believe that
Speaker 2: you should have walked in a church and protested people worshiping.
Speaker 2: And the thing about it is probably not everybody that
Speaker 2: was in that church agrees with what Ice is doing.
Speaker 2: First of all, you know, is it illegal? I don't know,
Speaker 2: you know, because we have seen other people walk up
Speaker 2: in people's churches and protests, but nothing happened to them
Speaker 2: because they walked up in what's called progressive churches. So
Speaker 2: conservatives can walk up in a progressive church disrupt service,
Speaker 2: but people can't walk up in a conservative church and
Speaker 2: disrupt services. They are trying to go after Don Lemon.
Speaker 2: And Don Lemon was there to report on the protest,
Speaker 2: which is what journalists do. They show they show up
Speaker 2: to protests and they report what's going on at you know,
Speaker 2: at the protests. We see it all the time. They're
Speaker 2: not necessarily part of the protest, but it's news, and
Speaker 2: so they show up. And so Don says that that's
Speaker 2: why he was there. He wasn't there to, you know,
Speaker 2: necessarily to protest along with the people. He was there
Speaker 2: to report on it. And so now he's up in
Speaker 2: court because see the name of the game is shut
Speaker 2: your mouth and let us do what we want to do,
Speaker 2: and don't challenge me. Don't don't don't challenge us. See
Speaker 2: that's why the other two, the two Americans were killed
Speaker 2: because they were they protested when we saw the videos.
Speaker 2: Then they lied and the video is as clear as day.
Speaker 2: But they're gonna lie and and try to you know,
Speaker 2: you know, and then they and then they blame the victims.
Speaker 2: I just I know we all are tired. I know
Speaker 2: we are. I know you are also. I and sometimes
Speaker 2: you know, I said to myself, Eric, you know, do
Speaker 2: a show. But then I just would say, oh God,
Speaker 2: then I would have to think about it. I'd have
Speaker 2: to keep, you know, devoting time and and and and
Speaker 2: and energy to what's going on. Don Lemon said he's
Speaker 2: gonna fight it because they're trying to shut them up.
Speaker 2: Nicki Minaj has completely gone over to you know, the magasi,
Speaker 2: which is Nicki Minad's Minaj's right. But a lot of
Speaker 2: her fans, She's lost a lot of fans because of it.
Speaker 2: But Nicki Minaj has a right to believe what she
Speaker 2: wants to believe, and you have a right to withdraw
Speaker 2: your support if you choose to do that. So I
Speaker 2: I let's let's let's continue to pray for our nation, I,
Speaker 2: you know, because I don't. I don't know what else
Speaker 2: to do. You know. I think that the midterms are
Speaker 2: going to We're going to see the Democrats take over
Speaker 2: the House, back over the House, and back over the Senate.
Speaker 2: I hope, and so this administration won't be able to do,
Speaker 2: you know, the things that they are being allowed to
Speaker 2: do because the Republicans have the majority in the House,
Speaker 2: in the Senate, and they're just letting them do whatever,
Speaker 2: you know, with except with exception of you know, Thomas Massey.
Speaker 2: I really don't hear any other Republican standing up, you
Speaker 2: know and say no. But I I really think that
Speaker 2: come November, this is this is going to turn around. Lord,
Speaker 2: I hope and pray. We got to get out and
Speaker 2: vote people. The President is not up for re election
Speaker 2: in November, but the House, in the House of Representatives
Speaker 2: and the Senators are. So let's make our voice heard,
Speaker 2: get out to the polls and vote. Well, that's all
Speaker 2: I have for today. I thank you guys for tuning in.
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