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<v Speaker 1>Kf I am six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp

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<v Speaker 1>the house Whisper on demand on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>got a cooker of a show going today because I've

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<v Speaker 2>got two very very important guests in studio with me,

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<v Speaker 2>the founding partners of Damage Law, Aria Shack and A

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<v Speaker 2>Dear B.

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<v Speaker 3>They are here.

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<v Speaker 2>We're having a conversation about insurance claims on property damage

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<v Speaker 2>on your home, what to do, how to do it,

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<v Speaker 2>what to expect, sayings that a lot of you have

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<v Speaker 2>just never heard or been told before. So don't go

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere because we are going to dive back into that conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>Very very shortly.

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<v Speaker 2>But right now, you know what, it is the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the hour, which means, as promised, it's time to

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<v Speaker 2>go to the phones. Let's see here. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to Sammy. Hey Sammy, welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>Home, Hey Jan how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning, Good morning, sir. How can we help great I've.

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<v Speaker 4>Seen their billboards and advertising all over on the West side.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to say thank you for what you

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<v Speaker 4>guys been doing. I have a couple of clients who

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<v Speaker 4>have been affected by the fires and they said they've

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<v Speaker 4>reached out to them and you guys help them place

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<v Speaker 4>them in temporary homes. Guys are doing amazing things.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>Question thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>As as a landlord, are you guys working with landlord

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<v Speaker 4>to see if there's any more space available where you

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<v Speaker 4>could place upcoming clients.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, at the end of the day, whenever these

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<v Speaker 7>clients have been affected, we're helping them get into homes

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<v Speaker 7>that are comfortable for the time during the time of rebuild,

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<v Speaker 7>because this could take a couple of months, maybe eight months,

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<v Speaker 7>So it's not right where the insurance companies are putting

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<v Speaker 7>them into hotels when there's a family of four, We're

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<v Speaker 7>getting them into comfortable housing, something comparable to what they

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<v Speaker 7>had before. So if you had a four bedroom house

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<v Speaker 7>with three bats, we're going to help them find that

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<v Speaker 7>four bedroom house, three bats and the same square footage

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<v Speaker 7>so everyone could be comfortable during this time of repair.

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<v Speaker 2>Now when you say two to eight months, we're not

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the fire stuff necessarily out here.

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<v Speaker 7>Just relocation.

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<v Speaker 3>Just the relocating, just that.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, the living expenses of what's associated with living in

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<v Speaker 7>an air or VRBO or a property that you found

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<v Speaker 7>that you want to short term lease for. We're making

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<v Speaker 7>sure the insurance companies are paying for these costs because

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<v Speaker 7>it's not fair for you as ensured to pay out

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<v Speaker 7>of pocket for these.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's I mean, I have personally no client who

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<v Speaker 4>was a mother and a husband with four kids who

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<v Speaker 4>are living in a little small hotel room, and she

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<v Speaker 4>told me you guys were able to place them in

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<v Speaker 4>a house and insurance is actually covering the cost on that.

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<v Speaker 4>I was wondering how others can get started with that.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, it's as simple as reaching out to us

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<v Speaker 7>and making sure that the insurance companies pay for what

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<v Speaker 7>you're entitled to. We had that family. They were displaced

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<v Speaker 7>for a week and I mean a month in the

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<v Speaker 7>shelters and when they contacted us, we called the insurance

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<v Speaker 7>company the same day. We told them open your eyes

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<v Speaker 7>and your ears. This water is contaminated. They cannot live

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<v Speaker 7>at this property. You need to pay for relocation. And

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<v Speaker 7>then they ended up approving four months for them. So

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<v Speaker 7>and Sammy, just heads up, every policy is different. Every

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<v Speaker 7>policy has different provisions as to what the insureds are

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<v Speaker 7>entitled to and where they can go or if they

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<v Speaker 7>can go, and what the limits are on that. So

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<v Speaker 7>just keep that in mind as well, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, sam got it, got it?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Sammy, Hey Bud, thanks for your call.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate all you're doing out there, and thanks for the

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<v Speaker 2>good words and really really good question.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate it. Man, have a great day.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, more of your calls coming up right after.

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<v Speaker 8>You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from

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<v Speaker 8>kf I A M six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>The Froggy House Whisper at your service, my voice, just

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<v Speaker 2>in and out today, in and out, just a little

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<v Speaker 2>rough up on the mountain yesterday having some fun and

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<v Speaker 2>uh ended up this morning. With a little rasp in

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<v Speaker 2>my voice, I apologize for that. We're having a very

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<v Speaker 2>very important program today talking to the founding partners of

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<v Speaker 2>Damage Law about insurance claims and everything that goes into them.

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<v Speaker 2>Very very significant information today, So.

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<v Speaker 3>You hang tight.

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<v Speaker 2>But right now I'm taking calls and I want to

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<v Speaker 2>go back to the board. Here, let's talk to and

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<v Speaker 2>Hey and welcome.

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<v Speaker 5>Home, Hijane, Thank you for taking my call. I have

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<v Speaker 5>a flat roof that is leaking and I need to

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<v Speaker 5>replace it. I've contacted different companies and they've suggested to

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<v Speaker 5>do like an old fashioned hot mop or a peel

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<v Speaker 5>and stick with like a couple layers or tar paper

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<v Speaker 5>with a double torch. And they're all offering twenty years

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<v Speaker 5>like warranty for manufacturers. But I wanted to ask you

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<v Speaker 5>which one you think it's the best or if you

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<v Speaker 5>know a better method, and then the manufacturer and the

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<v Speaker 5>aim of the materials that I could use that would

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<v Speaker 5>last longer than twenty years if possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you've taken how many how many quotes have

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<v Speaker 5>I've contented like ten different companies.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, so you've got a whole slew of quotes.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, but they're all saying different things, and then they're

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<v Speaker 5>contradicting each other. Some say the other method's better, and

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<v Speaker 5>then when I ask them this method better, they say no, no,

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<v Speaker 5>it's it's not. And so I don't know which is

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<v Speaker 5>the best way to go that would last the long astay.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, well, okay, so here's the stitch I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to give you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to point you in the right direction, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I can do today is point you in

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<v Speaker 2>what I think is the right direction, and I can.

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<v Speaker 2>All I'm going to tell you is how I handle

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<v Speaker 2>a flat roof When we need a flat roof, and

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<v Speaker 2>we need a lot of flat roofs these days because

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing more and more custom and contemporary design. I

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<v Speaker 2>do a lot of work on on mid century modern

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<v Speaker 2>houses that have relatively flat roofs. And so here is

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<v Speaker 2>the thing, and this, by the way, applies to everybody's roof.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm about to say, okay, not just the flat ones.

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<v Speaker 2>On a flat roof, the underlayment protection is the essentially

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<v Speaker 2>the whole roof, as it is that those layers of

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<v Speaker 2>waterproofing are the whole roof on a pitched roof that

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<v Speaker 2>has shingles or tiles on it, The same material that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about here can be applied as an underlayment

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<v Speaker 2>underneath the shingles and the tiles. Okay, my preference, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is my preference as an estate builder. In other words,

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff that we do on the high end. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean high end as in, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 2>the platinum version that is going to cost you ten

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<v Speaker 2>times as much, not at all. I'm just saying this

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<v Speaker 2>is the way it's done correctly, okay. And there are

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of materials out there, okay, so please forgive

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<v Speaker 2>me for not specifying one, like I don't point you

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<v Speaker 2>to an RW grace material versus this or that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is the thing I believe on any roofing system

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<v Speaker 2>that what you want is a flexible, stretchable, multi mill

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<v Speaker 2>thick roofing layer.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, that can be achieved, and different roofers are going

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<v Speaker 2>to have different opinions about how it can be achieved.

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<v Speaker 3>It can be a.

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<v Speaker 2>Bitamous material which is kind of like a rubberized material

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<v Speaker 2>that then overlaps a good four to six inches on

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<v Speaker 2>the seams as you roll out the material and then

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<v Speaker 2>those are torched, that seam is torched and it literally

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<v Speaker 2>melts one into the other and becomes one solid membrane.

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<v Speaker 2>Or these can be lighter weight roll materials that are

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<v Speaker 2>kind of rubberized on the backside and self ceiling so

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<v Speaker 2>that if anything, even the nails that attach them, they

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<v Speaker 2>seal around those nails. Or they can be rolled on

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<v Speaker 2>poor in place PVC vinyl layered roofs. But the key

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<v Speaker 2>here is that it's thick, that it's thick enough, and

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<v Speaker 2>that it's flexible. And so when I say that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>ruling out one of the roof styles that you were

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<v Speaker 2>that you mentioned that you were described to, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is anything involving just built up layers of roofing paper,

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<v Speaker 2>of asphalt embedded roofing paper. That is old school. It

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<v Speaker 2>is old old school and roofing paper build up and

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<v Speaker 2>hot mopping, even though you know, you got some old

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<v Speaker 2>guys out there who are like, I've been doing this

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<v Speaker 2>for fifty years and I've never had it's all great.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Hot mopping is tar being applied to built up layers

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<v Speaker 2>of asphalt embedded roofing paper.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is not that it makes that it doesn't make a

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<v Speaker 2>great seal, now, no problem whatsoever. The problem with it

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<v Speaker 2>is asphalt embedded roofing paper systems. They are not flexible.

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<v Speaker 2>Age causes them to become brittle. If the roof shifts,

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<v Speaker 2>if the house shifts, if an earthquake, rat you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of shakes things a little bit. The constant

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<v Speaker 2>oppression of UV, sunlight and heat up on top of

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<v Speaker 2>the roof, all of that makes asphalt and the hot

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<v Speaker 2>mop materials become brittle. Brittle is the enemy of a

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<v Speaker 2>flat roof, okay, because as soon as something becomes brittle,

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<v Speaker 2>it cracks, and when it cracks, it leaks.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So whatever the material is that you are hearing from

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<v Speaker 2>these various roofers, what I want from you is to

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<v Speaker 2>prioritize the ones that are handing you flexible kind of rubberized,

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<v Speaker 2>stretchable material of significant thickness. And then on top of that,

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<v Speaker 2>the last thing that I'm going to share with you

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<v Speaker 2>is very, very simply the coating that is going to

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<v Speaker 2>go on top of the flat roof. Now, your flat roof,

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<v Speaker 2>totally flat roof. We don't see it, or do we

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<v Speaker 2>see it?

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<v Speaker 5>Not completely flat. It's slightly slightly pitched.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but slightly pitched. But do I see it? Do

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<v Speaker 2>I see it from the street?

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<v Speaker 9>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>So the coating then on top of that, okay, is

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<v Speaker 2>is really critical because there's the roofing material itself, and

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<v Speaker 2>then there's what we're going to coat the top with,

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<v Speaker 2>which is going to be a thick roll on or

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<v Speaker 2>spray on layer of bright white alumaflex coating. And that

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<v Speaker 2>Water is the negative effect, you know in the end,

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<v Speaker 2>of things that a lot of roofing companies are like, yeah, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>until you've got a handful, like a top three roofers

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<v Speaker 2>here who are essentially offering you the same kind of equality.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, there are roofs out there that you can

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<v Speaker 5>a cool roof for the role on LA Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sometimes it's called the cool roof. Yeah, yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool roofs are not I mean it also applies to

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<v Speaker 2>other roofing materials, even like darkrofing materials that go on

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<v Speaker 2>of UV penetration. But yeah, it's a cool roof and

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<v Speaker 2>yes it is a critical critical component of your flat

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<v Speaker 2>roofing bid because that's the thing that's going to protect

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Anne, does that help?

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<v Speaker 5>How thick should the reberized material be the first player

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<v Speaker 2>And again I'm not a professional roofer, that's not my specialty. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>but you want to be looking for you ask the

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<v Speaker 2>So if you end up with something mainline like like

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<v Speaker 2>Much, Thanks and thanks for the call as always, really

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<v Speaker 2>that specifically are questions for you, guys. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're just joining us, we are talking about insurance

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<v Speaker 2>claims and for property damage after something has gone wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Aria Shack and the dearb and these guys are just

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<v Speaker 2>before we get back into our kind of free, willing conversation, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>le's see if we can answer a couple of these questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk to Sean. Hey, Sean, welcome home.

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<v Speaker 3>Bud Hi.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, a lot of us have been let down by

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<v Speaker 9>utilities for lack of maintenance, and that's really my situation.

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<v Speaker 9>I had utility contractor working at my house and they

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<v Speaker 9>accidentally cut what turned out to be a shallow water

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<v Speaker 9>line and they immediately went to turn off the water valve,

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<v Speaker 9>but it didn't work, and that ludding did a lot

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<v Speaker 9>of damage to the house, including, by the way, to

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<v Speaker 9>our filtered water system from your advertiser, which we love,

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<v Speaker 9>by the way, But my question is, I really don't

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<v Speaker 9>want to approach my insurance company on this. But if

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<v Speaker 9>I try to take the utility to court, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>it's probably a small claims action ten thousand, a little

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<v Speaker 9>bit under ten thousand. I mean, what is that is

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<v Speaker 9>that feasible against kind of the goliath utility or what

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<v Speaker 9>should be in my approach on that?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let me let me just jump in. I just

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<v Speaker 2>want clarification on this story. Before these there, I can

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<v Speaker 2>see them leaning forward in their chairs. They're ready to

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<v Speaker 2>let you know what they want to tell you. But

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<v Speaker 2>so this was like, so a big utility company doing

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<v Speaker 9>It was it was foundational work. And they're cutting into

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<v Speaker 9>various places along the front of the house in order

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<v Speaker 9>to put deeper footings, and one of these places happened

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<v Speaker 9>to be where a shallow PVC water line the mainline

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<v Speaker 9>really and it cut and they they immediately noticed water

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<v Speaker 9>flooding event began going into the house and you know,

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<v Speaker 9>they have utility keys, they know how to do this,

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<v Speaker 9>but the valve from the water company was frozen. We

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<v Speaker 9>couldn't turn it off. Oh, it brought in a lot

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<v Speaker 9>of the excess sand into the filtration system, which is

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<v Speaker 9>you know, it's not designed to handle that kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 9>and then water.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what happened.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, guys, what do you think when it comes

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<v Speaker 7>down to this, You definitely don't want to go through

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<v Speaker 7>either being canceled or non renewed or even your premium

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<v Speaker 7>is being increased. So you definitely want to go out

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<v Speaker 7>after the at fault party. And because it's the city

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<v Speaker 7>or a county, you have like limitations on when.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to utility.

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<v Speaker 9>It's a it's a it's a public utility.

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<v Speaker 7>Public Yeah, yeah, I would definitely go and hold them accountable,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, make a report to their company, get their

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<v Speaker 9>Because they denied me.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, so what was the reason for denial.

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<v Speaker 9>Just because they give me about.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, they needed to support their denial with with exactly

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<v Speaker 7>why they're denying you for So, if they're telling you

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<v Speaker 7>that I don't believe that were the cause, and you

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<v Speaker 7>find you need to find an expert that can show

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<v Speaker 7>have that report, then you have enough ammunition to move

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<v Speaker 3>How long ago did this happen? A little over a year, okay?

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<v Speaker 7>And what part of your home was damaged? Was it

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<v Speaker 7>the kitchen area.

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<v Speaker 9>That's a part of the garage, and then that filtration

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<v Speaker 9>system that's completely okay.

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<v Speaker 7>It's really important that you also mitigate because part of

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<v Speaker 7>the insurance policies, even on both sides, you have a

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<v Speaker 7>duty to prevent further damage. So if necessary, which I'm

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<v Speaker 7>sure it is, I would get a restoration company out

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<v Speaker 9>So both contractors attested that they took immediate action.

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<v Speaker 2>So it sounds to me like this is something This

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<v Speaker 2>is a conversation you guys probably need to have a

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<v Speaker 2>little little longer length with Sean because it sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>there's some some tricky things in there. Hey, Sean, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to be giving you giving out the contact information

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<v Speaker 2>for these guys. And am I overstepping to say you

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<v Speaker 2>should get a hold of you and figure it out.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, reach out and we'll guide you through it and

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<v Speaker 6>talk it out.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Bud, I've got to I really appreciate I

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<v Speaker 3>got to run. Sean.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for the call, man, Thanks very very much, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the other question was where, oh contact

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, let's just do it. Contact information for

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, where do they find you?

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<v Speaker 7>Damage law dot com or they can find us on

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<v Speaker 7>Instagram on damage underscore law or outer number eight sixty

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, eight sixty six Damage Law or damage law dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Very very simple, very very simple to get a hold

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<v Speaker 2>of you guys. All right, we're going to dive back

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<v Speaker 2>into this conversation. When we come back, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you guys. Let's identify all the players on

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<v Speaker 2>the field, like who, what are the names?

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<v Speaker 2>What are the roles of these people? What is a

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<v Speaker 2>public insurance adjuster? The adjuster from my insurance company contractors

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<v Speaker 2>that are on the approved list of the insur I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>who are all these players and what are they all about?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's a it's a mix of stuff, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty, Heyfi Dean Sharp, the house whisper, Welcome home, Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>and a pleasure I have sitting in front of me

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<v Speaker 2>two fantastic guys, the founding partners of Damage Law, a

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<v Speaker 2>property damage, both commercial. You guys do commercial stuff too, right,

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<v Speaker 2>commercial and residential. So that's where it applies to us

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<v Speaker 2>here about your home. And we're talking about the sticky wicket,

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<v Speaker 2>the web of craziness that is insurance claims after something

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<v Speaker 2>just scratching the surface here, and yet we're handing out

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<v Speaker 2>the players on the field. Okay, So we've got the

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<v Speaker 2>so the claim is made, and now we've got an

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<v Speaker 2>Then there are things out there called public things, people

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<v Speaker 2>And then there are contractors who are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>And then among the contractors there are you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>their house. And then there are these these contractors that

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<v Speaker 2>are on the insurance company approved list. So let's figure

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<v Speaker 2>out who's who and what everybody is after. So Aria

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<v Speaker 2>the the insurance adjuster. Yeah, who is this person?

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<v Speaker 7>So when you file that claim, you have a claim adjuster,

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<v Speaker 7>which is the one that is going to be taking

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<v Speaker 7>you through the process of getting things approved or denied

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<v Speaker 7>and then there is the independent adjuster from the insurance

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<v Speaker 7>side who they send out to come out on the

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<v Speaker 7>field to actually inspect the site. Typically, you would want

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<v Speaker 7>your claim adjuster to be there so they can actually

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<v Speaker 7>see what's going on here. Rather than seeing photos and images,

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<v Speaker 7>they could inspect the property and see how significant the

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<v Speaker 7>damage really is. These independent adjusters, at times, they're not

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<v Speaker 7>even in basein California. They come from Texas or Colorado,

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<v Speaker 7>and they don't know what the cost of material or construction.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>The independent adjust this is still somebody coming from the

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<v Speaker 2>insurance but not your claim adjuster. This is the insurance

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<v Speaker 2>company is farming out and hiring out adjusters to handle

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<v Speaker 2>things like this.

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<v Speaker 3>They may not even be from the state exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>So if they're from Texas, they had no idea what

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<v Speaker 2>things in California cost exactly Okay, all right, gotcha? All right,

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<v Speaker 2>So your claim adjuster and the independent adjust that's coming

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<v Speaker 2>from the insurance company, Okay, what about a public adjuster.

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<v Speaker 6>A public adjuster is an individual that a homeowner can

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<v Speaker 6>hire to come and assess and evaluate and value the

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<v Speaker 6>damage that's been done to your robbery and they work

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<v Speaker 6>on your behalf and they advocate on your behalf through

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<v Speaker 6>the claim process with the insurance carrier.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're a step in the right direction, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>Far as they work for you. Their job is to

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<v Speaker 2>serve your payout interests property owner.

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<v Speaker 6>They're there to value your claim and push to get

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<v Speaker 6>you what you're owed and to bring you back to

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<v Speaker 6>your pre loss condition.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I contract with a public insurance adjuster, then

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<v Speaker 2>my insurance company has to listen to them and deal

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<v Speaker 2>with them. Yes, I mean well, when I say listen

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<v Speaker 2>to them, they don't have to agree with them. But

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<v Speaker 2>in other words, they are a legal entity representing me

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<v Speaker 2>at that point with the In other words, the insurance

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<v Speaker 2>company can't say, I don't know who this guy is

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<v Speaker 2>that you hired, but we deal with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a letter of representation that is signed, I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 6>between the public adjuster and the homeowner that allows the

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<v Speaker 6>public adjuster to speak to the insurance carrier and the

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<v Speaker 6>adjuster on the homeowner's behalf.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's safe to say I feel like I've got

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<v Speaker 2>you on the witness stand. Is it safe to say

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<v Speaker 2>that a public insurance adjuster is playing more hardball with

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<v Speaker 2>an insurance company than the homeowner themselves is able to.

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<v Speaker 7>They have a level of education and licensing that allows

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<v Speaker 7>them to know what their insurance codes are from the

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<v Speaker 7>Department of Insurance, and they're making sure that the insurance

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<v Speaker 7>companies is following those regulations from the DOI.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, all right, And not only that, public adjusters are

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<v Speaker 6>typically using what the insurance carriers want or what they

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<v Speaker 6>use in order to value the claim. And it's called

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<v Speaker 6>an exactimate estimate, so they're they use the same system. Correct,

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<v Speaker 6>Therefore it translates better for their act.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But a public even a public adjuster, can only go

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<v Speaker 2>so far if the insurance company is pushing back correct and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then we have you guys.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so you know, a public adjuster is limited in

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<v Speaker 6>terms of being able to actually file a lawsuit against

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<v Speaker 6>the carrier for bad faith conduct. And in every in

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<v Speaker 6>almost every single contract and the policies your contract in California,

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<v Speaker 6>there's the implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing,

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<v Speaker 6>and the public adjuster isn't able to make that a

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<v Speaker 6>cause of action because they can't file suit. So when

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<v Speaker 6>we file suit on behalf of the property owner, we're

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<v Speaker 6>filing it for the breach of contract, which is the

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<v Speaker 6>breach of the benefits of the policy that they're not

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<v Speaker 6>laying out to the insured. And we're also putting in

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<v Speaker 6>the implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing, and

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<v Speaker 6>how the insurance care breached that in order to get

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<v Speaker 6>the bad faith damages.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotcha.

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<v Speaker 2>And now when you guys, and I know you guys

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<v Speaker 2>evaluate claims for free, yes, okay, you evaluate policy in

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<v Speaker 2>the nature of the claim for free, and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>take all those cases because sometimes they don't need you

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<v Speaker 2>at your level. Correct, But what we're recommending here today

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<v Speaker 2>is the idea of, like, if you're going to start

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<v Speaker 2>this process, why not step to the most qualified, the

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<v Speaker 2>most specialized, and the people who have the most power

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<v Speaker 2>and influence of the best maybe ten thousand foot view

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<v Speaker 2>of the entire situation and find out, especially if it's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to cost you anything, find out where exactly

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<v Speaker 2>you stand from from your perspective. And so what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>making that strong recommendation that if somebody's in that situation,

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<v Speaker 2>they should call it.

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<v Speaker 3>They should just call you first.

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<v Speaker 2>Think they should call you first and find out do

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<v Speaker 2>they need you or should you recommend a public adjuster

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<v Speaker 2>to them? In their situation, or should they just deal

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<v Speaker 2>work with their insurance adjuster because as far from where

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<v Speaker 2>you're standing, things are proceeding properly and they don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to take further steps.

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<v Speaker 7>So when a claim adjuster sees that there's an attorney

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<v Speaker 7>representing the file, they take it very seriously because now

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<v Speaker 7>they know they're under the microscope. They can't just unreasonable

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<v Speaker 7>to deny or delay the process. And what happens is

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<v Speaker 7>the public adjusters get to a certain point where the

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<v Speaker 7>insurance carrier is either denying coverage for certain situations or

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<v Speaker 7>they're minimizing what they're entitled to, and they can just

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<v Speaker 7>tell them no. So we work with public adjusters where

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<v Speaker 7>we help them push the claim to the finish line

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<v Speaker 7>for these clients that have not got coverage or weren't

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<v Speaker 7>able to get enough money. And these insurance carries, at

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<v Speaker 7>the end of the day, when they see that we're

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<v Speaker 7>signed to claim, they use a different claim adjuster because

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<v Speaker 7>now they have to use someone who knows how to

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<v Speaker 7>deal with attorneys right right public adjustment.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not that a public adjuster isn't doing their jobs,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the fact that they can't sue an insurance company,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that's why they take notice when you guys

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<v Speaker 2>get involved along the way.

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<v Speaker 6>And to your point, Deing, we we're very honest with

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<v Speaker 6>anybody who calls in. If we don't feel like our

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<v Speaker 6>services are necessary at this time, we are more than

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<v Speaker 6>happy to tell them, Hey, you know, you can deal

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<v Speaker 6>with a public adjuster at this phase, or you can

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<v Speaker 6>try it by yourself. We're not here to contract with

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<v Speaker 6>every single person we want. We want to outlay advice,

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<v Speaker 6>we want to add provide as much value as we

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<v Speaker 6>can without actually contracting with us. But yes, I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>if they get to a certain situation where they have

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<v Speaker 6>reached an impasse, yeah, they should give us a call

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<v Speaker 6>and see if we can evalue it and help them.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, sounds good?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, when we come back, let's talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>The crime scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, let's talk about what should a homeowner do and

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<v Speaker 2>not do? And so maybe this delicate balance between not

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<v Speaker 2>polluting the crime scene but at the same time doing

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<v Speaker 2>mitigation and what that means. Yes, so that they limit

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<v Speaker 2>their exposure. And if that doesn't instantly resonate with you,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to keep listening and we'll get to it

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<v Speaker 2>right after. Eileen Gonzalez gives us the news.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been Home with Dean Sharp, the House Whisper.

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