Speaker 1: Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's a little late, but happy Autumn Equinox. We are
Speaker 1: now officially into the Actually we're in autumn, and that
Speaker 1: means that the days are going to start getting shorter,
Speaker 1: and it's also a time for me to do my
Speaker 1: week long fast. I do a I try to do
Speaker 1: five day fast four times a year, and I was
Speaker 1: able to do four or yeah, I did four days
Speaker 1: last for the beginning of summer, and then the beginning
Speaker 1: of spring I did. I think I did five days,
Speaker 1: So it's getting easier. You know, it's not easy to
Speaker 1: just drink fluids for especially when you're working for a
Speaker 1: week and you have For those of you who haven't fasted,
Speaker 1: one day is not a problem. When you start getting
Speaker 1: into three and four days, your body's like, okay, we're
Speaker 1: going to shut down and we are going to start
Speaker 1: eliminating problem cells and disease processes that are going on,
Speaker 1: and your body actually goes into a healing mode. And
Speaker 1: I've had days where I have a fever because my
Speaker 1: body's heating up and burning things out. And you know,
Speaker 1: we're going to have for our Biohacking Basic series we're
Speaker 1: going to have an authority on fasting for wellness. In fact,
Speaker 1: this gentleman has a clinic in Santa Rosa, which is
Speaker 1: north of me. I'm here in the San Francisco Bay area.
Speaker 1: Santa Rosa is about forty five miles north of me,
Speaker 1: and this is a healing clinic where they actually take
Speaker 1: people who want to regain their health. Some people want
Speaker 1: to regain their immune system. Some people may be ill,
Speaker 1: and if they have a real hip doctor, they're going
Speaker 1: to a fasting clinic to be supervised for a wellness. Now,
Speaker 1: our ancestors use fasting quite regularly, and the indigenous people
Speaker 1: used it quite regularly when they weren't feeling well, and
Speaker 1: it was a form of repair, body repair and a
Speaker 1: way to boost the immunity. And we're going to learn
Speaker 1: all about this, like I said, when we have this
Speaker 1: expert on in October, fasting expert. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I mentioned the biohacking basics. We also have a functioning
Speaker 1: medicine allopath and an aging person. And for those of
Speaker 1: you who are not familiar with functioning medicine, this is
Speaker 1: a new brand of allopathy which I hope begins to
Speaker 1: take over the system. Because allopathy is all about dosing
Speaker 1: you with medicine, surgical procedures, and then when they just
Speaker 1: can't figure it out, they're going to irradiate you. All
Speaker 1: very toxic forms of treatment, all very disconnected from the
Speaker 1: healing body itself. And I have to say what I
Speaker 1: hear from those of you who are practicing functional medicine. Yes, Barbara,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about you. Ha ha. My friend Barbara is a
Speaker 1: functional medicine doctor. This is a branch of healing that
Speaker 1: I'm really hoping that more establishments HMOs here in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: I'm with Kaiser. Kaiser is so disconnected from healing. I
Speaker 1: basically fired my doctor because all they had to do.
Speaker 1: All they could provide me with is medicines. Oh, Cliff,
Speaker 1: you have a cholester, Well we're going to give you
Speaker 1: some statins. Well your blood pressure is a little high,
Speaker 1: Well we're going to give you some blood thinners. You know,
Speaker 1: and it's just not a solution, it's a problem. It
Speaker 1: causes problems. I lost the use of my arm in
Speaker 1: Mexico last year because I was on stands and I
Speaker 1: talked to my cardiologists and she's like, well, that's what
Speaker 1: we got that's what we got for you. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: is there any other solution? Well, no, no, we don't
Speaker 1: have a solution for it, you know, and they don't.
Speaker 1: It's people are are are stampeding out of their doctor's
Speaker 1: offices because they're sick of being medicated. This is not healing.
Speaker 1: By the way, they just had a survey of the
Speaker 1: industrial nations and the United States fell last number ten
Speaker 1: on the healthcare It's pathetic. The United States healthcare system
Speaker 1: is pathetic. Going off on a tangent anyhow, getting back
Speaker 1: to getting back to fasting. So I'm on my second day,
Speaker 1: really almost the third day, because I started late in Sunday,
Speaker 1: and I feel fine. First two days are fine. Now
Speaker 1: it's the third day and the fourth day where the
Speaker 1: body begins dumping toxins, cells and problems into the bloodstream
Speaker 1: to get rid of it. And this is why you
Speaker 1: need to drink lots of water, lots of fluids and
Speaker 1: stay hydrated. And I tend to get very moody on
Speaker 1: the third and fourth day because the body's getting rid
Speaker 1: of toxes. But I have to say this, and again
Speaker 1: this is not for everybody because you're not eating any food.
Speaker 1: But you can do it. You can really do it,
Speaker 1: and these supervised clinics can help. But you know you
Speaker 1: start off easy. You don't do five days right off
Speaker 1: the bat. If you want to fast, try twenty four
Speaker 1: hours and then breaking the fast. You know you have
Speaker 1: vegetables and so you don't eat a lot of heavy
Speaker 1: proteins or sugar or gluten, and you'd be surprised how
Speaker 1: great you feel. And we do this before you know,
Speaker 1: first of all, as each season changes, but also when
Speaker 1: you're not feeling great, and the benefits are just amazing.
Speaker 1: Now I've been fasting for probably thirty plus years. I
Speaker 1: go back to Bernard Jensen, who was a doctor of
Speaker 1: chiropractor who had a sanitarium in Temechila, which is a
Speaker 1: county down in the San Diego region of California. He
Speaker 1: and I think I've mentioned this before, he would take
Speaker 1: people who were extremely ill. They had cancers, they had
Speaker 1: degenerative arthritis, they had multiple sclerosis, other really degenerative types
Speaker 1: of illnesses, and he would take them on long fasts
Speaker 1: and also calonics. Now I don't advocate colonics, but a
Speaker 1: lot of people do them. This is where you're you're
Speaker 1: not eating and then you're flushing the large intestine with
Speaker 1: water through colonic irrigation. This is putting a hose up
Speaker 1: the rectum and then you flush the system well. He
Speaker 1: documented people passing tumors and waste products, not feces, but
Speaker 1: problems of the upper and lower colon. And you know,
Speaker 1: and you know, the medicals establisher just doesn't get this.
Speaker 1: They just don't get it. This is why we're the
Speaker 1: last place of industrial countries for healthcare. We just don't
Speaker 1: know what to do. We're so stupid, and we're dosing
Speaker 1: everybody with medicines. It's just causing more problem. So when
Speaker 1: we have our functional medicine doctor on, she is great.
Speaker 1: I've read her book and we're going to hear all
Speaker 1: about this. And this is something that is being forced
Speaker 1: on allopaths to change their system of wellness, change their
Speaker 1: prescription methods, and to look at alternative nutrition, exercise, meditation,
Speaker 1: and other wellness practices that are much more beneficial to people.
Speaker 1: So anyhow, I'll let you know how my fast ends
Speaker 1: next week. And I'm looking forward to a positive outcome,
Speaker 1: which always happens. It always is a much positive outcome
Speaker 1: because I'm much clearer, i feel better, I'm processing, I'm digesting,
Speaker 1: and just feeling much much better across the board. So
Speaker 1: that's part of the biohacking basics. The program today is
Speaker 1: more for the tools for transformation theme. The title of
Speaker 1: the book is that we're talking about is the fifteen
Speaker 1: minute Method, the surprisingly simple art of getting it done.
Speaker 1: And my guest is Sam Bennett, and I'll tell you
Speaker 1: this book is wonderful. The interview was very very enlightening
Speaker 1: because we're all bogged down into our nine to five existence,
Speaker 1: trying to get ahead of the joneses, trying to survive,
Speaker 1: and we're not taking enough time for ourselves. What do
Speaker 1: we really want individually? What do we really want to accomplish?
Speaker 1: Do we want? I mean? And I like this because
Speaker 1: you know, we're not thinking about our family, our kids,
Speaker 1: our relatives, our friends. It's about us and you might
Speaker 1: think that's selfish, but it's not. And when you hear
Speaker 1: the techniques that we're going to present today and what's
Speaker 1: featured in this book, it just came out the fifteen
Speaker 1: minute method, you're going to love it. And this is
Speaker 1: not about meditating, it's not about journaling. It's about sitting
Speaker 1: down one day a week and considering yourself. So again.
Speaker 1: Today's program is the fifteen Minute Method and my guest
Speaker 1: is Sam Bennett. I think you're gonna enjoy this show.
Speaker 1: You probably hear about all these amazing locations, these ancient
Speaker 1: sites we visit on Earth, ancient Sand, here on Destiny,
Speaker 1: but I got to tell you there's nothing like being
Speaker 1: there in person. And we have a number of tours
Speaker 1: that we schedule every year, some in far lands like
Speaker 1: Turkey and Egypt, but some are closer to home, like Mexico.
Speaker 1: And we have a great tour coming up in November,
Speaker 1: the Sacred Mayan Temples of the Yucatan. It's November eighth
Speaker 1: through the seventeenth of this year, one week of intense exploration.
Speaker 1: This tour is designed for those of you who really
Speaker 1: want to connect with these ancient places, feel an affinity
Speaker 1: to the Maya, and just want to see ye close
Speaker 1: and personal, what a pyramid looks like, what it feels like,
Speaker 1: how you connect with them and the tolleric energy. For
Speaker 1: more information on our upcoming tour, go to Earth Ancients
Speaker 1: dot com, forward slash Tours and look for the banner
Speaker 1: to Mexico. I gotta tell you this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a good one. We're going to be going to Ushmol, Ticheniza, Lobna,
Speaker 1: Sail and every place we go to. You can connect
Speaker 1: by sitting, by meditating, by connecting with these sacred locations.
Speaker 1: And there's nothing like climbing a Mayan pyramid and sitting
Speaker 1: at the very top and getting bathed in this wonderful energy. Again,
Speaker 1: come out and join us. It's November eight through the
Speaker 1: seventeenth of this year. Go to Earth Ancients dot com,
Speaker 1: forward slash tours and get all the information. How do
Speaker 1: we live our life and be as successful as possible
Speaker 1: without getting stuck. That's a big question I've always wondering about.
Speaker 1: And my author, my guest today, is an author of
Speaker 1: a really an interesting book. Not only is it provocative
Speaker 1: in terms of guidance, and we all need guidance. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not all about meditating and hoping it happens the
Speaker 1: way you are planning. But this is a way too.
Speaker 1: In this new book, this is a a way to
Speaker 1: go beyond the stress, strife, the problems that we all face.
Speaker 1: And would you believe the title of this book is
Speaker 1: the fifteen minute Method, the surprisingly simple art of getting
Speaker 1: it done. And we're going to find out today what
Speaker 1: that means. My guest today is Sam Bennett. She is
Speaker 1: the author of Get It Done, Start right where you
Speaker 1: are in this new book. She's a writer, speaker, actor,
Speaker 1: creativity productivity specialists, and she is the founder of the
Speaker 1: Real Sam Bennett dot Com, a company committed to helping
Speaker 1: overwhelmed creatives and frustrated overachievers get unstuck. And she's coming
Speaker 1: to us today from Connectiquette. Sam, I really like this book,
Speaker 1: and I typically don't have a lot of time because
Speaker 1: I have to go through a lot of different books.
Speaker 1: But were you was this book kind of a next
Speaker 1: step from your last book, or were you seeing people
Speaker 1: and hearing from people that are like Sam, I just
Speaker 1: don't get it. I'm just I'm in the muck, I'm
Speaker 1: in the manure, and I can't get out of this.
Speaker 1: Talk about the inception of this book.
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you so much, Cliff, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: Hi everybody, I'm so glad you're here. And yeah, let's
Speaker 2: see if we can't change your life in fifteen minutes
Speaker 2: a day, how about that. Yeah. The impetus for this book,
Speaker 2: it's a little bit of some some from colum and
Speaker 2: some from columb I was definitely hearing more and more
Speaker 2: from people, I'm so overwhelmed, I'm so stressed out. I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm working as hard as I can, as
Speaker 2: much as I can, and I'm still not getting anywhere.
Speaker 2: There's too much input, I don't know where to look,
Speaker 2: you know, all these versions of I'm so busy, I'm
Speaker 2: so overwhelmed. And then my editor over at New World
Speaker 2: Library actually asked me if I would consider writing a
Speaker 2: book on overwhelmed, and I immediately said yes, because again
Speaker 2: that's the word that I kept hearing over and over
Speaker 2: and over again, and I knew I had a really simple,
Speaker 2: like almost subversively simple key to help people get over.
Speaker 1: This amazing I want to mention real quickly, and I'd
Speaker 1: like you to just talk about this. You've gotten over
Speaker 1: long COVID, and I have friends and I never really
Speaker 1: had a problem with COVID, but when you have long COVID,
Speaker 1: you're fatigued for much of the day. Talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about applying your own techniques into that, because you
Speaker 1: must have to kind of lay your day out in
Speaker 1: such a way where Okay, I wake up, I feel great,
Speaker 1: but what do I want to achieve today? And then
Speaker 1: as you're working, you'll probably have a drop in energy,
Speaker 1: and then it'll go up and down, up and down.
Speaker 1: Talk a bit about that because a lot of people
Speaker 1: are still dealing with that.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I would not say I'm actually over long haul COVID.
Speaker 2: I am infinitely better than I was. Okay, But I
Speaker 2: want to shout out to all my brothers and sisters
Speaker 2: out there living with long haul and any other long term, debilitating,
Speaker 2: essentially untreatable disease. These invisible illnesses are so hard, so
Speaker 2: hard to live with, so hard for you, so hard
Speaker 2: for your families, so hard for everyone. So I just
Speaker 2: big hug to everybody, because man, it's hard. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: with long all you do not wake up feeling great
Speaker 2: you wake up, I mean it's yeah. The main symptom
Speaker 2: is exhaustion, when I started referred to as clinical fatigue,
Speaker 2: because if you just say fatigue, it sounds like, well,
Speaker 2: you're tired, take a nap. But no, this is different.
Speaker 2: This is like your body's made out of concrete and
Speaker 2: someone is holding you down. Like, not only did getting
Speaker 2: out of bed many times seem impossible, but rolling over
Speaker 2: in bed seemed really ambitious, you know, like when you
Speaker 2: are so fatigue you cannot watch TV.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't imagine that, I know.
Speaker 2: And for me it was reading like I could read anywhere, anytime, anything,
Speaker 2: all the time, and all of a sudden I couldn't
Speaker 2: really read.
Speaker 1: Because you just can't take any data in. You're just
Speaker 1: your body is just like, leave me alone. I want
Speaker 1: to rest.
Speaker 2: You got to imagine like the worst jet lag you've
Speaker 2: ever had combined with the worst flu you've ever had, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: your body's just like no, no, nothing, thank you. Nothing
Speaker 2: is what we want. So yes, So a great deal
Speaker 2: of this book was in fact written in fifteen minute
Speaker 2: increments and edited in fifteen minute increments because that would
Speaker 2: be all I could do.
Speaker 1: Wow, talk about the reason for this book and how
Speaker 1: people can get fifteen minute increments into their day. And
Speaker 1: then at the end of that, I'm going to give
Speaker 1: you a three part why it's such a great benefit
Speaker 1: to have the satisfaction that you are achieving something that
Speaker 1: is for you.
Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, So let's lay it out. So here's the
Speaker 2: fifteen minute method. If you everybody wants to know, here
Speaker 2: it is, pens clicked, let's go. Fifteen minute method. Is
Speaker 2: I want you to spend fifteen minutes a day, every
Speaker 2: single day, on something that matters to you. To Nah,
Speaker 2: that's it, that's the whole thing. I turned that into
Speaker 2: a whole book. But here's the kicker. I mean, here's
Speaker 2: what I noticed is that most of us, most of you,
Speaker 2: are running around all day getting everything for everybody, and
Speaker 2: the stuff that really matters to you, that would really
Speaker 2: make a difference to you, your heart, your body, your
Speaker 2: family doesn't even make it onto the list, right. So,
Speaker 2: and you know we psych ourselves out of things sometimes
Speaker 2: we think, you know, well, I mean, Sam, I really
Speaker 2: what I really want is to write a book. But
Speaker 2: you know I need two months in promise. You know,
Speaker 2: I need a whole summer. I need all this time,
Speaker 2: and I am all for two months in provoms. Please
Speaker 2: call me, we'll go together. But I noticed that that
Speaker 2: time is not always immediately available. However, everyone has fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: I don't care how busy you are or how unwell
Speaker 2: you are. Really, I mean, there are certain degrees of unwell,
Speaker 2: but you know what I'm saying, For the vast majority
Speaker 2: of us, we can find fifteen minutes a day. And
Speaker 2: if you take writing a book for an example, in
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, you can write two hundred and fifty words,
Speaker 2: and in two hundred days that's fifty thousand words. That's
Speaker 2: a book.
Speaker 1: You know. I was looking at the fifteen minutes and going,
Speaker 1: I can't do shit in fifteen minutes because I'm all
Speaker 1: over the place. But you're right if you focus down
Speaker 1: and you think of it as this is my creative time,
Speaker 1: this is my juicy time, this is my personal time.
Speaker 1: If you have kids, if you have obligations, it's almost
Speaker 1: like it's magic, isn't it.
Speaker 2: It is one hundred percent magic, and it's actually sort
Speaker 2: of three tiered magic because first of all, there is
Speaker 2: the magic of how much you can get done in
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes. It's shocking. Everyone is shocked. I am often shocked.
Speaker 2: I mean I do it in almost every one of
Speaker 2: my workshops where I say, okay, I'm going to set
Speaker 2: their timer for fifteen minutes. You all put your pens
Speaker 2: on paper and do XYZ for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: So great, and almost.
Speaker 2: Every time they are like amazing, Like I know. The
Speaker 2: second part of the magic is every day, when you
Speaker 2: are touching your project, every day, when you are making
Speaker 2: incremental progress every day, you start to see exponential effects,
Speaker 2: and we sort of get that logically. Like, you know,
Speaker 2: if I practice my ukulele for fifteen minutes a day
Speaker 2: and not very long of a time, I would be
Speaker 2: a better ukulele player. Right, Does the world need a
Speaker 2: better ukulele player? I don't know. But in the course
Speaker 2: of a week or a month, or a year or
Speaker 2: six years or sixty six years, the thing I do
Speaker 2: every day, not only am I going to get good at,
Speaker 2: but it's sort of let see angels know I'm serious.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: The brain is really good at finding what it's looking for.
Speaker 2: So if you are putting a project right in front
Speaker 2: of it every single day for fifteen minutes, whether that's
Speaker 2: writing a book or playing ukulele or learning a language,
Speaker 2: or decluttering your closet or you know, growing your business
Speaker 2: or paying attention to your finances, whatever it is that's
Speaker 2: up for you, there's a real magic to that, that
Speaker 2: everyday commitment. And then finally there's this fabulous spillover effect, right,
Speaker 2: And the same way that when you are grumpy and
Speaker 2: stressed out and then you just get sort of increasingly
Speaker 2: grumpy and stressed out when you start out with fifteen
Speaker 2: minutes of giving you the gift of something that matters
Speaker 2: to you. Oh my gosh, we love that version of you.
Speaker 2: You're calmer, you're less reactive, You've got a little light
Speaker 2: in your eyes, you're a better listener. Like it's the
Speaker 2: same sort of I don't know, I wish there was
Speaker 2: a word for like positive smugness, like the positive smugness
Speaker 2: that you get when you, you know, hit the gym first
Speaker 2: thing in the morning, or you have sex first thing
Speaker 2: in the morning and you've been all day being like
Speaker 2: that's right, I'm awesome. How are you?
Speaker 1: But you're when you're you're we're feeding ourselves with those
Speaker 1: where magic. Where the magic is is what you're telling
Speaker 1: us in this book is that you need this to
Speaker 1: be your best self.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and stop expecting some magical day you know
Speaker 2: when you're going to wake up with all the confidence
Speaker 2: and free time and extra money in the world, Like
Speaker 2: it's not happening, and this constant pushing out of your
Speaker 2: goals and dreams to like, well, I'll do it, you
Speaker 2: know after the holidays, I'll do it when I get
Speaker 2: that promotion. I'll do it when the kids X Y Z.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, today, the future is not guaranteed to
Speaker 2: any of us do it today, And even stuff that
Speaker 2: people really I think sometimes struggle with, like you're getting enough,
Speaker 2: you know, exercise and movement. Every single health and medical
Speaker 2: professional in the universe will tell you that fifteen minutes
Speaker 2: of you moving your body in any way, shape or
Speaker 2: form is going to have an exponentially positive effect on
Speaker 2: your health and well being.
Speaker 1: Yeah. What if someone's listening and they go, Sam, I
Speaker 1: don't know what I need to do for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: How do I reach out and grab that one thing
Speaker 1: that's going to make me feel good about my nine
Speaker 1: to five existence and screaming kids and I don't have
Speaker 1: enough time for myself existence.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that question because it reminds me of
Speaker 2: times in my life when I've really been neglecting my
Speaker 2: own self, Like when I can't even answer the question
Speaker 2: what do I want? It's like, what do I want?
Speaker 2: I don't know? What do you want? What do you
Speaker 2: want for me? What can I do for you? Let's
Speaker 2: talk about that, all right? So that tells me there
Speaker 2: is a lot of room for you to discover. And
Speaker 2: that's what I would invite you into, is I would
Speaker 2: go ahead and make a list of a bunch of
Speaker 2: fifteen minute tasks that you just think, Well, I could doodle,
Speaker 2: I could you know, plan a trip to Paris. I
Speaker 2: could take a look at that stock investment. I could
Speaker 2: research the work of Eleanor Duza, I could you know,
Speaker 2: Like whatever it is that bubbles up for you, go
Speaker 2: ahead and write it down, and then maybe you pick
Speaker 2: a different one every day. Maybe you find one that
Speaker 2: you really like and you stick with it for a while.
Speaker 2: It's really meant to It's really an infinitely flexible thing.
Speaker 2: There is there's no right or wrong way to do it.
Speaker 2: I am not your mom. This is not school. You're
Speaker 2: not getting graded like it's really the object of the
Speaker 2: game is just the doing of it. And I'll tell
Speaker 2: you for me. My fifteen minutes I do before I
Speaker 2: even open my eyes. Almost in the morning, I do
Speaker 2: it right away, well, even while I'm still sort of
Speaker 2: half asleep. And I have this little sort of prayer, meditation,
Speaker 2: breathing journaling process that I invented for myself over time,
Speaker 2: and it's so lovely, you know. Sort of in the morning,
Speaker 2: I write a letter to God, or God writes a
Speaker 2: letter to me, depending on who needs to say what
Speaker 2: to whom, and it doesn't take very much time. And
Speaker 2: yet I notice that when I don't do it, things
Speaker 2: go off the rails so vast, and when I do
Speaker 2: do it again, I'm more in touch with myself. So
Speaker 2: it may be if you don't know where to start,
Speaker 2: that you want to make a list and try a
Speaker 2: bunch of different things. It may be that you just
Speaker 2: want to start with that inquiry, you know, start with
Speaker 2: a blank piece of paper and the question what do
Speaker 2: I want? And maybe let your non dominant hand answer.
Speaker 2: You know, it'll look like kindergarten serial killer handwriting, but
Speaker 2: that's okay. You know, do a little self and quiry,
Speaker 2: Do whatever prayer, meditation, visualization work you like to do,
Speaker 2: if that appeals.
Speaker 1: To you, you know.
Speaker 2: Otherwise, do what's in front of you, you know, but
Speaker 2: don't don't make your damist appointment, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to be something that's more what a
Speaker 1: desire or an accomplishment. You don't really fine tune what
Speaker 1: that item can be, but it has to be a
Speaker 1: creative outlet. Let's talk about a point that you have
Speaker 1: in your book. What time of day to do these
Speaker 1: kinds of things. Some of us, like I get up
Speaker 1: in the morning and when I mean, I get up
Speaker 1: at seven thirty to start my day and that's my
Speaker 1: highest creativity where I do writing and things like that.
Speaker 1: But other people may have other times of the day
Speaker 1: where they do that. Talk a little bit about the
Speaker 1: importance of having that creative muse as what we use
Speaker 1: the term, use that guidance when should people be doing
Speaker 1: this work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to underline one thing that you said.
Speaker 2: You talked about using this time for creative work. And
Speaker 2: I don't want people to turn off and go, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm not creative, which is what a lot of people
Speaker 2: will say. Because there's there's a little vocabulary problem in
Speaker 2: our country. We have conflated the words creative and artistic, right,
Speaker 2: and those are two different things. Not everyone is artistic
Speaker 2: and that's fine, but everyone is creative. Creativity has to
Speaker 2: do with innovative problem solving. It has to do with
Speaker 2: you know, if you've ever solved a problem differently than
Speaker 2: anybody else has ever solved the problem, Congratulations, you are
Speaker 2: a creative genius. And so for some people that's tying flies,
Speaker 2: for some people it's coding. For some people, it's knowing
Speaker 2: what compliment to give, you know, making other people feel
Speaker 2: great about themselves. So wherever you know. Sometimes I'll talk
Speaker 2: about people having a zone of creative genius or multiple
Speaker 2: zones of creative genius, and at tip to Kay Hendrix
Speaker 2: and to Katie Hendrix for their work on zones of genius.
Speaker 2: But your zone of creative genius is like that thing
Speaker 2: that you've always been good at, You've always had sort
Speaker 2: of a natural knack for. Maybe nobody else in your
Speaker 2: family or your community is interested in it, but you are.
Speaker 2: It's the thing that if somebody woke you up at
Speaker 2: three in the morning and said, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Cliff,
Speaker 2: we're gonna go do X y Z you want to go,
Speaker 2: and you'd be like, yeah, oh for sure, where's my shoes? Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm coming, I'm coming right Whatever that is that start there,
Speaker 2: start there? Okay, So I got off a little tangent
Speaker 2: about creativity and about your zone of creative genius. What
Speaker 2: time of day again, Yeah, it's really infinitely flexible. I
Speaker 2: like you, I'm better in the morning. And also I
Speaker 2: find if I put stuff off to where in the
Speaker 2: middle or the end of the day, it's easy for
Speaker 2: it to fall off. Yeah, in between the cyber cracks
Speaker 2: right once I check email kind of it's all over,
Speaker 2: So I like to do it first thing. But do
Speaker 2: it when it works for.
Speaker 1: You, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean some people like to do it during their
Speaker 2: lunch break. Some people like to do it in mid afternoon,
Speaker 2: you know, take a fifteen minute walk or just go
Speaker 2: outside for fifteen minutes to counteract that mid afternoon slump.
Speaker 2: Some people can't do it till after the kids are
Speaker 2: in bed. Some people love to get up, you know,
Speaker 2: be up at three in the morning. So really, you
Speaker 2: do what works for you and be prepared to be flexible.
Speaker 2: I mean that sometimes there's stuff that like, oh, this
Speaker 2: works so perfectly for my schedule right now, but then
Speaker 2: something will change all of a sudden, They're not going
Speaker 2: to middle schoo anymore. They're in high school now, their
Speaker 2: schedule is different, and now you can't do it at
Speaker 2: the same time. So don't you know, don't get too
Speaker 2: precious about it, but yeah, figure out something that works
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 1: Is it important to do it every day? Can we
Speaker 1: skip a day, skip a week? Talk about the locking
Speaker 1: it in and why and we don't want to get
Speaker 1: into psychology and physiology, but why it's probably a healing benefit.
Speaker 1: To do it every day and to accumulate the positivity
Speaker 1: or use some language in this area, because I think
Speaker 1: this is a big one for some people who might go, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm going to do this wow, and the next day
Speaker 1: I'm tired. I don't want to bother right.
Speaker 2: Well again, I really want to get people away from
Speaker 2: this world of self punishment. You know that oh I
Speaker 2: did it wrong, or oh I messed it up, or
Speaker 2: only I did I only did three days last week,
Speaker 2: So what that's three days more than you did the
Speaker 2: week before. Feel good about it? Do? I think there's
Speaker 2: magic to doing it every day? Absolutely absolutely. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I think when you touch something every day, when you
Speaker 2: touch a project or an idea or a goal or
Speaker 2: a commitment every day, you know, it keeps it top
Speaker 2: of mind for you. You're always sort of spinning on it.
Speaker 2: You'll see more opportunities around it. It'll become more of
Speaker 2: the fabric of your life. It'll also get you used
Speaker 2: to springing into action and being decisive and moving forward.
Speaker 2: You know, money many loves decisions, and money loves speed,
Speaker 2: and creativity loves decisions and creativity loves speed. So to
Speaker 2: get out of that, well, it's not perfect. Well, I'm
Speaker 2: still thinking about it. Well, I'm not sure to just
Speaker 2: into like, no, I'm just doing it. It's fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: How perfect is it going to be? I'm going to
Speaker 2: do it on tomorrow anyway, So I'm just you know,
Speaker 2: I have a friend who taught herself art. She taught
Speaker 2: herself to be an artist because she wanted to, and
Speaker 2: so she bought a pack of watercolors because she heard
Speaker 2: those were the easiest to start with, and she started
Speaker 2: watching YouTube videos and for fifteen minutes a day, every
Speaker 2: single day, she started painting. And it's true when she started,
Speaker 2: they were not great, yeah, but she was really loving
Speaker 2: learning about it and really loving the experience.
Speaker 1: And that's the key is that you're picking something not
Speaker 1: that somebody else wants in your life. It's something that
Speaker 1: you have a desire for, right, So, maybe, like you're saying,
Speaker 1: somebody who wanted to become an artist, she started doing
Speaker 1: a fifteen minute practice and all of a sudden, I
Speaker 1: don't know how many years she practiced, but she's competent
Speaker 1: on some level. Or maybe it's satisfaction, right.
Speaker 2: Exactly a couple of years later, she has a beautiful
Speaker 2: studio in her house. She does art all the time,
Speaker 2: and she started designing patterns like fabrics and amazing designs
Speaker 2: like she's a beautiful colorist. She's a beautiful artist, and
Speaker 2: more than that, it lights her up. Right, And we've
Speaker 2: all heard over and over again those reports from hospice, right,
Speaker 2: the number one regrets of the dying are I wish
Speaker 2: I had spent more time on the things that mattered
Speaker 2: to me and less time on the things that I
Speaker 2: thought mattered to other people.
Speaker 1: That's kind of a downer, Sam.
Speaker 2: Jesus, I'm telling you this. I hate to say it,
Speaker 2: but it's really one of the things that drives my
Speaker 2: entire business. I hardly ever talk about it, but I
Speaker 2: am slightly obsessed with the fact that we die. We
Speaker 2: are all here with a unique voice and a unique gift,
Speaker 2: and a unique experience of the world, and unique talents
Speaker 2: and skills. And we don't know how long we're here for, right.
Speaker 2: We know that it's a one way ticket, but we
Speaker 2: don't know for how long. We're all old enough to
Speaker 2: have lost friends, right. We all have people who aren't
Speaker 2: here anymore to do their work. And I am so
Speaker 2: grateful to my friends who did do their work. You know,
Speaker 2: where they may not be here, but their book is here,
Speaker 2: or their drawings are here, or the card that they
Speaker 2: wrote to me is here, Like that makes an impact
Speaker 2: on the world. I've got my great grandmother's recipes because
Speaker 2: she took the time to write them down and save
Speaker 2: them for us.
Speaker 1: We're going to take a short commercial break to allow
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Speaker 1: with my guest today, Sam Bennett, discussing her brand new book,
Speaker 1: The fifteen Minute Method. We'll be right back. My guest
Speaker 1: today is author Sam Bennett, who has written a new
Speaker 1: book called The fifteen Minute Method, The Surprisingly Simple Art
Speaker 1: of Getting It Done, and we're discussing the various techniques
Speaker 1: creatively affecting your life. Would you also say that your
Speaker 1: book The fifteen Minute Method is also about finding your
Speaker 1: passion because you talk about people who are It doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be creative in terms of painting or writing.
Speaker 1: It could be somebody who wants to figure out a
Speaker 1: new financial plan for retirement, who may be in the
Speaker 1: numbers and maybe want to try something new, how to
Speaker 1: invest or somebody. Talk about the different aspects of that
Speaker 1: fifteen minute Method and where because it disguise the limit right.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I'll tell you I have a fantasy. You
Speaker 2: want to hear my fantasy. Here's my fantasy. My fantasy
Speaker 2: is that this will that. First of all, Okay, so
Speaker 2: I keep reading about how seventy seven percent of employees
Speaker 2: are disengaged, oh from their job. Yeah, seventy seven percent.
Speaker 2: That's a lot. Like if you lost seventy seven percent
Speaker 2: of your money, you would notice if seventy seven percent
Speaker 2: of your friends went away, you would notice, Like, that's
Speaker 2: a huge percentage. So this is a very expensive problem,
Speaker 2: it seems to me, for corporate America. And while I
Speaker 2: have had Lord knows every job under the sun. I
Speaker 2: was a Whitewater river guide, I was a briist, I
Speaker 2: produced radio dramas, I cocktail waitress, I did the scarffying
Speaker 2: demonstrations and Lord and Taylor like, I've done everything, but
Speaker 2: I've never had a job in corporate America. So you
Speaker 2: all can tell me how real this is. But I
Speaker 2: feel like it would be a beautiful thing for a
Speaker 2: company to say, hey, you know what, people, we recognize
Speaker 2: that you are a person with a life outside of
Speaker 2: this office, and so we want to give you between
Speaker 2: eight and eight fifteen every morning, or between four and
Speaker 2: four to fifteen every afternoon, or between twelve thirty and
Speaker 2: twelve forty five every day, and that's just you time. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: Don't check your email, don't schedule meetings, just do your
Speaker 2: thing for fifteen minutes. End of star.
Speaker 1: I loved that idea. I was in Corporated America and
Speaker 1: you're like a number. Of course, literally the higher ups
Speaker 1: don't even know you exist for the most part.
Speaker 2: Exactly right. So it seems to me a very cheap,
Speaker 2: simple thing to just say, like, hey, you do you
Speaker 2: for fifteen minutes?
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: But here's where I think it's really going to work
Speaker 2: is so now we all go into the meeting, and
Speaker 2: you know, I would introduce my myself saying, oh, hi,
Speaker 2: I'm Sam from Sales and Marketing, but maybe I say Hi,
Speaker 2: I'm Sam from Sales and Marketing. And I spent my
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes today working on a needle point that I
Speaker 2: was making for my goddaughter when she was born, and
Speaker 2: now she's about to graduate from high school, so I'm
Speaker 2: super excited to get it done. Yeah, And there are
Speaker 2: studies that show that when you allow people to do
Speaker 2: that to comment, First of all, get everybody's voices into
Speaker 2: the room right away with a meeting, right, so everybody's
Speaker 2: engaged and share something about themselves as a person. They'll
Speaker 2: do better in the meeting because they've reminded themselves of
Speaker 2: the fullness of their experience. Right, They're not just coming
Speaker 2: with their sales and marketing hat on. They've reminded themselves.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, I'm a person with family and friends
Speaker 2: and needlework and commitments and things. And then here's the
Speaker 2: rest of my fantasy. Down at the end of the
Speaker 2: table is Debbie from accounting, with whom I have never
Speaker 2: gotten along. And Debbie says, Hi, I'm w from accounting
Speaker 2: and I spent my fifteen minutes today doing count across stitch.
Speaker 2: Oh what well, No, we're needlework buddies. Now we can
Speaker 2: talk embroidery flaws. And of course she does count across
Speaker 2: stitch because she's an account of course. Right now we've
Speaker 2: got something in common, and you know what, we call
Speaker 2: that engagement.
Speaker 1: And that's really important because most of these corporate worlds
Speaker 1: are sterile and they're there. You're just another number. You come,
Speaker 1: you do your job, and you leave, and it's really sad.
Speaker 1: People aren't engaged. You're right, it's right, and.
Speaker 2: We all know that people. You people do way more
Speaker 2: for other people than they will for any job.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: If you know the times when you've really made an
Speaker 2: extraordinary effort, it's because you cared about the person, You
Speaker 2: cared about that manager, you cared about that project, you
Speaker 2: cared about that you know that team.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah. Helping people engage with themselves and their own
Speaker 2: creativity and engage with each other and with each other's creativity,
Speaker 2: I think would be kind of.
Speaker 1: I want to remind and suggest to the reader that
Speaker 1: they get this listener, that they get this book because
Speaker 1: it's written in very short, exacting chapters and I like
Speaker 1: it because I don't have a lot of time to read.
Speaker 1: But if you have ADHD or your minds all over
Speaker 1: the place, it's a great book because you can get
Speaker 1: into a third of the book without really thinking too
Speaker 1: much and just passing through. I want you to talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about something that I found was wonderful
Speaker 1: and actually very important in your book, which is getting
Speaker 1: enough rest. And if you're burnt out and you'd have
Speaker 1: no energy, you're not going to be creative. You're not
Speaker 1: going to call on the muse talk about creating a
Speaker 1: rest diary.
Speaker 3: This was really a great idea because if you're coming home,
Speaker 3: or if you wake up and you're already tired because
Speaker 3: you've been exhausted all through the week, you need to
Speaker 3: look at your your energy levels.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, talk about creating this diary and why it's
Speaker 1: so critical to get this fifteen minute method ongoing and
Speaker 1: really running.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, well, true productivity is not about getting more done.
Speaker 2: It's about getting more of what matters done. And as
Speaker 2: they say, what gets measured matters. So you know, if
Speaker 2: you're on a weight loss or fitness journey, you're going
Speaker 2: to measure your calories and your pounds and your inches
Speaker 2: and your weights in your reps. Right, if you're and
Speaker 2: if you're on a journey to get better rest, then
Speaker 2: you need to track your rest. And the first thing
Speaker 2: I want you to look at is what are you
Speaker 2: doing that is genuinely RESTful, Because I'm here to tell
Speaker 2: you that revenge doom scrolling you're doing at night in
Speaker 2: bed that is not RESTful. That binge watching. I mean,
Speaker 2: I love TV, don't get me wrong, but we all
Speaker 2: do that thing sometimes where we just sort of vegetate
Speaker 2: and let it wash over us. And you know, occasionally
Speaker 2: I'm all for it, But every night that is not
Speaker 2: restoring your soul, that is not lighting you up, that
Speaker 2: is not giving you energy. Right, things are RESTful when
Speaker 2: they restore your energy.
Speaker 1: So you need to turn all the social media off.
Speaker 1: Like I watch TikTok in bed just before I go
Speaker 1: to sleep. It's like me too. I think it's because
Speaker 1: I'm so addicted to it.
Speaker 2: It's just so addicted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know it's probably really not good for
Speaker 1: my psyche and also my my brain.
Speaker 2: It's not good for your psyche, it's not good for
Speaker 2: your brain. The blue light is not good for your sleep,
Speaker 2: like make and this is where we get to be
Speaker 2: really good parents to ourself, right, you know, because the
Speaker 2: little kid inside of us is like I want to treat,
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk, I don't want to go
Speaker 2: to bed, and the grown up in us has to say,
Speaker 2: I know, sweetheart, I know, but we're gonna we'll watch
Speaker 2: TikTok pretend, you know, for fifteen minutes in the morning.
Speaker 2: That can be your prize. We're going to sleep right now,
Speaker 2: right or whatever it is. Again. Sometimes people I know
Speaker 2: spend their fifteen minutes, stretching or laying down, you know,
Speaker 2: with their legs up against the wall, or using a
Speaker 2: thera gun. H one of those massagers sitting out just
Speaker 2: you know, sitting out in the sunshine, hugging a tree,
Speaker 2: you know, attending to their houseplants. Like, what are the
Speaker 2: things that can correct some of that imbalance around too
Speaker 2: much input and not enough output, not enough neutral time
Speaker 2: and not enough output, right because right now we're so
Speaker 2: busy consuming every last little thing, reading every last article,
Speaker 2: watching every last video, watching every stream, that we exhaust
Speaker 2: ourselves and you need to reset to neutral and then
Speaker 2: you need output as well. We need a balance of
Speaker 2: these things in order to feel well rested.
Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about your own journey, Sam, because
Speaker 1: you were saying when you started doing this that not
Speaker 1: only did you get more satisfaction in life, but you
Speaker 1: accomplish things like you able to write more books, You're
Speaker 1: able to do some of the things that you know,
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly what they were, but when you
Speaker 1: begin to work in this fifteen minute model, it actually
Speaker 1: is satisfactory on unconscious levels.
Speaker 2: Well, that's right, I mean, I think we dismissed the
Speaker 2: cognitive load, the psychological load of that which is undone.
Speaker 2: You know, when we're carrying around like, oh I really
Speaker 2: wanted to do this, cuasi, Oh I really wish I
Speaker 2: could get to that. Oh I really want to do that,
Speaker 2: but I'm not doing any of it. That's exhausting mentally. Yeah,
Speaker 2: moving forward, even just a little bit is such a
Speaker 2: relief and so energizing. Sometimes. I give the example of
Speaker 2: sometimes people are like, well, see, I'm you know, I
Speaker 2: need to clean out my garage, right. It's really weighing
Speaker 2: on me. It's a big problem. I've got to do it,
Speaker 2: and I need two free weekends. I mean, I can't
Speaker 2: do that in fifteen minutes. And again I'm gonna say,
Speaker 2: first of all, show me those two free weekends, because
Speaker 2: I don't have them, and I don't think you do either,
Speaker 2: And if you did, I don't think you want to
Speaker 2: spend them in the garage. But to my point, what
Speaker 2: I might suggest is make yourself a mug of something
Speaker 2: and go out into the garage for fifteen minutes and
Speaker 2: just be with the garage.
Speaker 1: Just take it all in, Just observe the.
Speaker 2: Garage, take it in, see what the garage has to
Speaker 2: say to you. Don't touch anything, just check it out
Speaker 2: with no agenda other than being there. And it may
Speaker 2: be that, like minute twelve, you go, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: those seven boxes belong to my brother Jeffrey. Jeffrey, can
Speaker 2: I get your boxes? Well, now you clean out a
Speaker 2: whole corner you didn't if you do anything. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: maybe the next day you go in again of something
Speaker 2: you'd look in one of the rubber Maid boxes, you go, oh,
Speaker 2: that has holiday stuff in it. So then you put
Speaker 2: a big label on it says holiday, and you shove
Speaker 2: it to the back because you only need that stuff
Speaker 2: once a year. And maybe the next day you roll
Speaker 2: that broken bicycle out to the curb and put a
Speaker 2: sign on it that says free broken bicycle. And in
Speaker 2: this way, in this fashion, you can in fact clear
Speaker 2: out your garage in fifteen minutes a day. And more
Speaker 2: than that, the joy of moving forward, the joy of
Speaker 2: making decisions, of knowing that you've moved even a tiny bit,
Speaker 2: you know. Tony she wrote a terrific book God Bless
Speaker 2: Tony Shay called Delivering Happiness, and one of he was
Speaker 2: the founder of Zappos, and one of the things he
Speaker 2: denoted as a condition of happiness is progress or perceived progress,
Speaker 2: which is how they do like the lines at Disneyland,
Speaker 2: you know, like where you just like go through a
Speaker 2: bunch of different environments as you're in the line to
Speaker 2: sort of make you feel like you're closer, even though
Speaker 2: the line is like a million miles.
Speaker 1: Part of the line is an experience.
Speaker 2: Right exactly. So the fact that there's perceived progress, like okay,
Speaker 2: we're moving forward, that's that people's happiness or an element
Speaker 2: of happiness.
Speaker 1: Okay. You have another area that I think is really good.
Speaker 1: I used to do it to myself or for myself,
Speaker 1: is when you're working on something and you give yourself
Speaker 1: a little rewards, you know, which I was really happy
Speaker 1: to read that in your book because you know, stopping
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, I'm going to have a bit of
Speaker 1: a chocolate bar or which you're not supposed to eat
Speaker 1: or something if you're on a weird diet. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but just little acknowledgments which are the rewards of your
Speaker 1: work is in critical is a really critical part of
Speaker 1: this program. Talk a bit about that.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. You would never expect a child or
Speaker 2: a dog or a team member to put in hard,
Speaker 2: consistent work on something and not get an at a girl,
Speaker 2: you know, not get a treat. Ye so, and yet
Speaker 2: we expect ourselves to work ourselves into the ground, and
Speaker 2: then all we do is beraate ourselves for not doing more.
Speaker 2: So I want to say, stop, acknowledge how far you've come.
Speaker 2: Give yourself a present and it can be whatever you want.
Speaker 2: I mean again, Sometimes I promise myself that if I
Speaker 2: do a thing, I can call my friend Margaret in Chicago,
Speaker 2: because I'm always happy to talk to Margaret and we
Speaker 2: never have enough time to talk. Sometimes I'll, you know,
Speaker 2: make a cup of the fancy tea that I got
Speaker 2: in England. You know, sometimes it'll be a little square
Speaker 2: of chocolate. And you know, if you're on a diet
Speaker 2: that doesn't allow you to have even a little square
Speaker 2: of chocolate, I.
Speaker 1: That would be huge.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I hope you have something that you like,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, buy the good olives at the
Speaker 2: grocery store, like whatever it is that you go, Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm cool, I'm special. I get a little treat like absolutely, boy,
Speaker 2: buoy yourself up that way. I have a friend who,
Speaker 2: in their daily journaling process, they write down three things
Speaker 2: that they're proud of themselves for doing that day. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm proud of myself for not losing my temper. I'm
Speaker 2: proud of myself for only having one square of chocolate.
Speaker 2: I'm proud of myself for putting that broken bike out
Speaker 2: on the curb, like really taking the time. Because you know,
Speaker 2: many of us did not exactly grow up in the
Speaker 2: happy childhood club. Oh boy, and right yeah, and sometimes
Speaker 2: not only were our mistakes not met with grace, but
Speaker 2: our accomplishments were not met with grace. So we're grown
Speaker 2: ups now again. We get to reparent ourselves. We get
Speaker 2: to say, honey, I am so proud of you. Look
Speaker 2: how great you're doing. You wrote two hundred words today.
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
Speaker 1: What's the reward and the outcome of doing this practice,
Speaker 1: this work is it to fill a more complete sense
Speaker 1: of being on the planet and fulfilling a not a
Speaker 1: requirement that's the wrong word, but a purpose. I have
Speaker 1: purpose in why I'm here. That's what it feels like
Speaker 1: to me while you wrote this book, is you're seeing
Speaker 1: people that seem kind of out of sorts, out of
Speaker 1: they're not connected. They might have a nice facade where
Speaker 1: they're smiling, and they have their makeup on, but behind
Speaker 1: that facade, they're crying. They're miserable, and what the hell
Speaker 1: am I doing here?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that's definitely a lot of it. I mean,
Speaker 2: and I've lived with depression and anxiety my whole life,
Speaker 2: and sometimes it's just the wallpaper of every room I'm in,
Speaker 2: and sometimes it really eats my launch and uh, you
Speaker 2: know again invisible diseases, right, And I think that being
Speaker 2: able to combat whether it's just sort of operational on
Speaker 2: WEI or the middle aged blas or of a sandwich
Speaker 2: generation pressure, or however you want, you know, the mid
Speaker 2: the quarter life crisis, however you want to describe it.
Speaker 2: Life is challenging, but finding joy doesn't have to be hard,
Speaker 2: and it doesn't require you to necessarily leave your marriage
Speaker 2: or quit your job, or you know, move to another state.
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's little things you can do that
Speaker 2: will vastly improve your experience of every day. And I
Speaker 2: noticed this maybe you do too. People tend to spend
Speaker 2: a lot of time talking about all the things they
Speaker 2: cannot control, and not nearly enough time controlling the things
Speaker 2: over which they have one hundred percent control.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that you have a number of different
Speaker 1: states that you describe in your book, and one of
Speaker 1: them is called zone of creative genius? Does everybody have that?
Speaker 1: Is that something that you begin to realize once you're
Speaker 1: doing this work that there's while you're doing it. Maybe
Speaker 1: it opens an awareness of your project on a different level,
Speaker 1: or something to talk about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we talked about a little bit earlier. That
Speaker 2: thing that you know, if somebody woke you up at
Speaker 2: three am, that's whatever that thing is, you know, the
Speaker 2: thing that your family and friends are oh right, might
Speaker 2: say to you. You know, like wait a minute, you're
Speaker 2: driving how far to go to a conference on what?
Speaker 2: And you're like, no, no, I'm super excited. I can't wait.
Speaker 2: So that's a great place to start. And one of
Speaker 2: the ways one of the things I talk about in
Speaker 2: the book is I know that everybody has his own
Speaker 2: of creative genius because every office I've ever worked in,
Speaker 2: like I said, I've never had a corporate job, but
Speaker 2: I've had plenty of office jobs. There is a birthday
Speaker 2: person in every office. There is somebody who takes it
Speaker 2: upon themselves to say, Okay, today's Cliff's birthday, and they
Speaker 2: hand around the card and they bring in the cupcakes
Speaker 2: and they put up a little sign and you know whatever.
Speaker 2: And I find that mysterious and delightful because frankly, I
Speaker 2: don't care about birthdays. I don't care about I don't
Speaker 2: care about my birthday. I don't care about your birthday.
Speaker 2: I don't care about any of its birthday. I'm not
Speaker 2: a birthday person. I know those people are like, it's
Speaker 2: my birthday, was celebrate all month long. I'm like, that's
Speaker 2: bad for you. That is not my scene. So I
Speaker 2: think it's delightful that somebody would take that on. And
Speaker 2: if you ask them about it, if you say, hey,
Speaker 2: don't you mind you know, doing this every couple of weeks,
Speaker 2: and they say, no, I love it. I'm so happy
Speaker 2: to do it. I really I love doing it. Well,
Speaker 2: that's that person's zone of creative genius. And if they
Speaker 2: were to maybe start their own business, maybe it would
Speaker 2: be in events or hospitality, but maybe it would just
Speaker 2: maybe it would be in hr and in how to
Speaker 2: recognize people and help people feel valued. Maybe it would
Speaker 2: be in in a therapeutic modality, you know, helping people
Speaker 2: blossom into their best selves. You know, whatever they're whatever's
Speaker 2: motivating that that birthday behavior is their zone of creative genius.
Speaker 1: Talk about the progression in this practice, the fifteen minute method,
Speaker 1: where maybe you start out and you give some examples
Speaker 1: in your book which I think are great, But I
Speaker 1: got to clean up my garage and you're writing this down,
Speaker 1: you're going out as you say, you're kind of sitting
Speaker 1: there and looking there at the garage and going God.
Speaker 1: And then you start working on it slowly. When that's
Speaker 1: done and achieved, I would imagine there's a level of satisfaction.
Speaker 1: But how does that help you progress to the next item?
Speaker 2: Again, it totally depends on who you are and what
Speaker 2: your circumstances, and there isn't a right way. I do
Speaker 2: have a client who several years ago moved from California
Speaker 2: to South Carolina to be with her mother in her
Speaker 2: mother's dying years. Eventually her mother did in fact I
Speaker 2: and now here she is in this house filled with
Speaker 2: her mother's stuff. Now she's dealing with her grief and
Speaker 2: she has to deal with clearing out all this stuff.
Speaker 2: So and her own stuff, which is still half of
Speaker 2: in boxes from California. So she decides to start with
Speaker 2: her mother's office and she's like, Okay, fifteen minutes a day,
Speaker 2: I'm just going to start going through her papers and
Speaker 2: we'll just chip away at it. And so she does,
Speaker 2: and sure enough, fifteen minutes a day she starts to
Speaker 2: make some real progress on what seemed like a mountain
Speaker 2: of paper. But again, every day you chip away at
Speaker 2: it makes progress. Then she realizes that her mother's record
Speaker 2: player is in the office, and so she starts to
Speaker 2: play albums while she's working, because that's something she and
Speaker 2: her mom shared was the real love of music. And
Speaker 2: you know, albums are about a side of an album's
Speaker 2: about twenty two minutes, so you know, she could put
Speaker 2: that on do her fifteen twenty minutes of clearing. And
Speaker 2: then while she was clearing, she found some of her
Speaker 2: mom's old stationary, as the beautiful heavyweight cotton stationary that
Speaker 2: they you know, they don't even make it anymore, you
Speaker 2: can't buy it. And so she started to write notes
Speaker 2: and letters back to her friends in California, back to
Speaker 2: her new friends. She just made that note sending a
Speaker 2: part of her day. Well, and now she's got to
Speaker 2: walk the notes down to the mailbox, which means she's
Speaker 2: getting to know the neighbors and their dogs. And their
Speaker 2: gardens and the mail carrier. And in this way she
Speaker 2: starts to sort of habit stack. Right, James Clearer talked
Speaker 2: about atomic habits and habit stacking. You know, the fifteen
Speaker 2: minutes of clearing leads to music, leads to letter writing,
Speaker 2: leads to be taking a walk and being out in
Speaker 2: the world every day. Like in these little incremental movements
Speaker 2: we can see quantum leaps.
Speaker 1: So keep at it. And it is on some level
Speaker 1: the soul, the higher self or whatever is helping you
Speaker 1: along with this special time, which is your time, this
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes a day to get really what you want.
Speaker 1: So you can be a child, you can be an adult,
Speaker 1: you can be whatever, but you're satisfying these levels of
Speaker 1: your soul.
Speaker 2: Right, that's right. And honestly, you know, for some of
Speaker 2: you you may just want to set a timer. And
Speaker 2: even if you end up staring at a blank piece
Speaker 2: of paper for fifteen minutes, well, fifteen minutes of enforced
Speaker 2: boredom never hurt a person. And when was the last
Speaker 2: time you spent fifteen minutes staring at paper and not
Speaker 2: reaching for your phone.
Speaker 1: We're going to take another commercial break to allow our
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Speaker 1: my guests today, Sam Bennett, discussing her new book The
Speaker 1: Fifteen Minute Method. We'll get right back to you, we promise.
Speaker 1: My guest today is author Sam Bennett, who's written a
Speaker 1: new book called The Fifteen Minute Method, The Surprisingly Simple
Speaker 1: Art of Getting It Done. And this is a new
Speaker 1: way to look at creativity, satisfaction and not the nine
Speaker 1: to five existence that most of us have to deal with.
Speaker 1: I love what you just said, enforced boredom.
Speaker 2: I am a big stand of enforced member. All those
Speaker 2: hours and hours and hours in the way back of
Speaker 2: the car, like on finally car trips. We used to
Speaker 2: drive from Chicago up to Door County, Wisconsin, which.
Speaker 1: Is yeah, we took car to as a kid, right,
Speaker 1: and we're.
Speaker 2: Going camping and Kettle Moraine or wherever it was, and
Speaker 2: we'd make a fort in the way back of the Volvo.
Speaker 2: I know kids can't do that anymore, but it was fun.
Speaker 2: And there were just hours of just staring out the window.
Speaker 2: There's no iPad, there was no nothing. There was just staring.
Speaker 2: And I think it was really good for a person. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think it's beneficial to be entertained
Speaker 2: every moment of every day.
Speaker 1: Well, that could be a form of meditation too, quiet
Speaker 1: zoning where you're sitting there looking at blank paper and
Speaker 1: going I don't know what I want. I don't know,
Speaker 1: And maybe that's that's kind of clearing the dust out
Speaker 1: of the machinery.
Speaker 2: Absolutely and just be in the not knowing. Get curious. Right.
Speaker 2: You also mentioned add and ADHD and all the neurospicies
Speaker 2: of it all. And I have to say this time
Speaker 2: blocking effect of saying Okay, I'm just going to do
Speaker 2: this for fifteen minutes is really RESTful and focusing for
Speaker 2: the neurospicy mind.
Speaker 1: And it's actually why it just shut it.
Speaker 2: It just allows you to focus and not feel like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm going to fall down the rabbit
Speaker 2: hole and wake up six hours later, you know, or
Speaker 2: come to come back six hours later. I'll say you.
Speaker 2: I offer a thing for sale. It's called the Daily
Speaker 2: Practicum and you can see it on my website on
Speaker 2: the realsam Bennett dot com and it's a subscription thing.
Speaker 3: It's and.
Speaker 2: Every day, every weekday, I should say, every weekday, for
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes between twelve and twelve fifteen Eastern we get
Speaker 2: on zoom. We wave at each other. We set the
Speaker 2: timer for fifteen minutes. Fifteen minutes later, it goes off,
Speaker 2: and I'm here to tell you a gallery full of
Speaker 2: like glowing almost post orgasmic faces look up at me,
Speaker 2: you know, and they say, Sam, Sam, I did it.
Speaker 2: I made that phone call. I've been putting off that
Speaker 2: phone call for weeks and I made that phone call.
Speaker 2: Or Sam, Sem, I did it. I wrote a card
Speaker 2: to my coworker just lost her husband, and I wanted
Speaker 2: to say somebody. I don't know what to say, but
Speaker 2: I just I just did it. I just wrote it,
Speaker 2: and it's done, you know. Or again, I just sat
Speaker 2: in the garden for fifteen minutes with the sun.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Yeah, it's amazing. It's also giving permission, isn't it.
Speaker 2: It's permission giving. It's also a thing called parallel play
Speaker 2: or body doubling. You know, as humans were very influenced
Speaker 2: by the group, by the room we're in. Emotions are contagious.
Speaker 2: There's all kinds of studies that you know, if you
Speaker 2: sit next to a high performer, your performance will go up.
Speaker 2: So to know that like, okay, I am in this room,
Speaker 2: this virtual room, this space with all these other people
Speaker 2: who are also putting their heads down and working for
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes. The sort of collective energy of that. And
Speaker 2: it's funny because I've got people who show up every
Speaker 2: day for it. I've got people who show up occasionally,
Speaker 2: and then I've got people who never show up in person,
Speaker 2: but the fact that they've paid for it and it's
Speaker 2: on their calendar every day means that they do it
Speaker 2: just at a different time.
Speaker 1: That's a really interesting practice to have people show up
Speaker 1: on your on zoom and to be going this is
Speaker 1: what happened with me. Do you go through everybody or
Speaker 1: is it like only those who want to share?
Speaker 2: Just people want to share? They do. I mean, we
Speaker 2: really don't chitch out very much. It's really just a
Speaker 2: high great job, see you tomorrow, you know.
Speaker 1: I think it would be kind of fun. Is just
Speaker 1: sit there quiet for five minutes and little blocks of
Speaker 1: quiet time. I think it's great. Let's talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about some of the challenges. And when I say
Speaker 1: challenges procrastination. You have a chapter called What Your Excuses
Speaker 1: Really Mean and that's a big one. Talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about that chapter because people, I mean people are
Speaker 1: listening going, look, I just don't have time.
Speaker 2: For this right, right, And if you're living a life
Speaker 2: in which you cannot claim fifteen minutes for yourself, I
Speaker 2: think you have a large issue that needs looking at, right,
Speaker 2: that you deserve to look at. Procrastination is a big
Speaker 2: word that covers a lot of territory, and I hear
Speaker 2: from people all the time like, oh, I'm such a procrastinator.
Speaker 2: I never get anything done to the last minute, and
Speaker 2: I always want to say, no, one gets anything done
Speaker 2: to the last minute. That's how we know that it's
Speaker 2: time to get something done is because it's the last minute. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: what the last minute is for different people. My sister
Speaker 2: is one of those people who does all her Christmas
Speaker 2: shopping in August. But for her, yeah, but for her,
Speaker 2: August is the last minute, you know, like her internal
Speaker 2: ometer says now is the moment. Other people have different
Speaker 2: internal ometers and that whole like, Oh, I haven't you
Speaker 2: know I've got a presentation on Monday. I haven't worked
Speaker 2: done it at all. That's probably not true. You've probably
Speaker 2: been spinning on it and thinking about it, and by
Speaker 2: the time you actually sit down to make your slides
Speaker 2: or whatever, you pretty much know what you're gonna do, right.
Speaker 2: So sometimes what we call procrastination is actually fomentation. What
Speaker 2: we call procrastination is I just don't care about that
Speaker 2: right now. But there are other things that we tell
Speaker 2: ourselves over and over again that I really wanted to
Speaker 2: sort of pry the lid off of a little bit
Speaker 2: like this, Like when I hear from people, well, I
Speaker 2: don't know, you know, I just don't know. I wanted
Speaker 2: to I think I maybe, but I just I don't know,
Speaker 2: And I always want to say all right. That tells
Speaker 2: me that either you are unwilling to trust your inner
Speaker 2: knowing and or are unwilling to ask someone smarter than you.
Speaker 2: So which of those two do you want? Do you
Speaker 2: want to just say, okay, you know what, I think
Speaker 2: I do know, or I think I know enough to
Speaker 2: make a guess, or I think I know enough to
Speaker 2: start for fifteen minutes. Or do you want to find
Speaker 2: somebody with greater authority and ask them what to do?
Speaker 2: But either way, get out of this. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, I don't know, because
Speaker 2: that's not getting you anywhere.
Speaker 1: Would you say that this practice is like creative therapy
Speaker 1: without without using psychotherapy as a as a bridge or
Speaker 1: even a definition. It's I see it as a way
Speaker 1: for you to regain your awareness of who you are.
Speaker 1: And that's a real big problem in America because it's
Speaker 1: like nine to five. I gotta be like the Jones is,
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta buy what he's got. We got
Speaker 1: to have a bigger house, we gotta have a bigger car.
Speaker 1: And that's just crap. Yes, but our society is still
Speaker 1: functioning on that level.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, we get to make choices and we
Speaker 2: get to you know, we can't control much of what's
Speaker 2: going on out there, but we can control at least
Speaker 2: some of our own time. We can control our own attention.
Speaker 2: We can reclaim our own peace and our own curiosity.
Speaker 2: You know, I can't tell you that this is gonna,
Speaker 2: you know, magically cure you. But I do get a
Speaker 2: lot of emails. I had one guy who wrote to me.
Speaker 2: It was so great. He said he got his my
Speaker 2: book on audible. He got the audiobook version for free
Speaker 2: somewhere I don't know where, but you got it for free.
Speaker 2: And I do the narration of the book. So if
Speaker 2: you like audiobooks, yeah, oh it's super fun. You know,
Speaker 2: I was an actor, so it's you.
Speaker 1: Know, it makes sense. Yeah, yeah, inflection and laugh and
Speaker 1: stuff like that.
Speaker 2: That's right. I wouldn't to let somebody else be my voice.
Speaker 2: So and I love doing voice work, I really do. So.
Speaker 2: So he got it on the audio version and he said,
Speaker 2: he's from Philadelphia, so he's a natural born hater. I'm
Speaker 2: sure enough. You listened to the first part of it,
Speaker 2: and he was like, yeah, I don't care for this,
Speaker 2: this isn't for me. But then he said something sort
Speaker 2: of kept tapping him on the shoulder about it. So
Speaker 2: he went back and listened to it, and now he's
Speaker 2: just finished listening to it for the third time through
Speaker 2: straight and he started making some very small changes in
Speaker 2: his own life and seeing some results from those changes,
Speaker 2: seeing some results from his fifteen minutes's and finally he
Speaker 2: found himself with the courage to quit the job that
Speaker 2: he had been trying to quit for nine years. He said,
Speaker 2: he walked into his boss's office. Oh, ps, his boss
Speaker 2: is also his dad, which is one of the reasons
Speaker 2: why it was hard to quit, because it's the family business.
Speaker 2: So he walks into his dad's office. They're discussing the
Speaker 2: summer vacation schedule. And the guy says he just took
Speaker 2: a deep breath and said, right, and then after this
Speaker 2: date and you know, August, I won't be back. And
Speaker 2: his dad said, okay, m this thing that works in
Speaker 2: putting off been dreading thought was going to be a
Speaker 2: super drama. It was almost a non event. And he's
Speaker 2: so happy. He's got his next gig lined up, like
Speaker 2: he's trying new things. He's like, I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's going to work or not. But ten years of
Speaker 2: chains fell off of his body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably a completely new person after one year.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear what happens next.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing. Who is this book for? Is this
Speaker 1: book for people who are in crisis? Creative crisis? Are they?
Speaker 1: Is this for somebody who is like I need to
Speaker 1: I realized I just had this birthday. Of course, we
Speaker 1: hate our birthdays. You just talked about that. I just
Speaker 1: had a birthday and I just am not in a
Speaker 1: space I want to be talk about where this book?
Speaker 1: Who this is for?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean it's as you say, it's an easy read.
Speaker 2: It's short chapters, it's very conversational. Yeah, there's parts of
Speaker 2: it that I think are quite funny. There's parts of
Speaker 2: it that are pretty amusing. There's little exercises and thoughts.
Speaker 2: But it's not very wu right, It's not like super spiritual.
Speaker 2: It doesn't ask you to believe anything or take any
Speaker 2: big leaps of faith. It's a very practical book. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So I like to think that that widens its appeal.
Speaker 2: So I think this book is for you. If you
Speaker 2: have things that you know you want to do that
Speaker 2: you are not getting to. I think that would be
Speaker 2: the first thing. If you are tired of talking about
Speaker 2: how busy and overwhelmed you are, yes, and you would
Speaker 2: like to replace that vocabulary with something more like rested
Speaker 2: and fulfilled instead of busy and overwhelmed. I think if
Speaker 2: you're just curious about yourself, I think this little fifteen
Speaker 2: minute tool is an incredible key that opens a big
Speaker 2: door to the infinite uniqueness of you. You each of
Speaker 2: you are incredibly fascinating, and you've doubled yourself a bit.
Speaker 2: You know, you've you've let yourself stop noticing how amazing
Speaker 2: you are. And I think shining that fifteen minute light
Speaker 2: back on yourself, I think it does have a real
Speaker 2: therapeutic effect. Sometimes. I think one of the great effects
Speaker 2: of therapy is just claiming that time, saying that's right,
Speaker 2: this hour a week is for me, pot on me.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about me and my issues about me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that just that gesture is really powerful. And I
Speaker 2: think the same thing. I think taking fifteen minutes to
Speaker 2: day and saying, you know what this time is for me?
Speaker 1: And when I ask you a question, you brought up
Speaker 1: something at the very beginning. I'm in the middle of writing.
Speaker 1: I have two books I'm supposed to be writing, and
Speaker 1: if I was to do fifteen minutes, that would be
Speaker 1: nearly enough. But once you get going, is it is
Speaker 1: it okay to keep going after the fifteen minutes is
Speaker 1: over and get into an hour or more or.
Speaker 2: Oh of course, right, Mihaim chummy heyes, always talked about flow, right,
Speaker 2: and when we get into that flow state, that's like
Speaker 2: the highest best possible state to be in, when we're
Speaker 2: just when it's just flowing and it's just happening. And
Speaker 2: absolutely you said sometimes you sit down for fifteen minutes
Speaker 2: and get up four hours later. It's amazing. We love
Speaker 2: it when that happens. If you have the time freedom
Speaker 2: to do that, obviously.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Other times, you know, it's a slog. You're sitting there
Speaker 2: for fifteen minutes and the you know, fourteen minutes and
Speaker 2: fifty nine seconds, you're like and we're not like, You're like,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you I wrote my whole first book. This
Speaker 2: way I get it done. My first book, I I
Speaker 2: couldn't decide goes this is it right? I needed it
Speaker 2: to be perfect inside of my mind before I even started.
Speaker 2: So I was trying to figure out, like, well, should
Speaker 2: it be a work book, should it be like one
Speaker 2: person's journey through this material? Should it be an allegory?
Speaker 2: Like how should I do it? And finally I thought, Samantha,
Speaker 2: let the book tell you right, Let the garage tell you.
Speaker 2: Let the book tell you right. I have a conversation.
Speaker 2: So I started carry around index cards, and anytime I
Speaker 2: thought of something that I thought should be on the book,
Speaker 2: I would write it down on an index card.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then I had a Manila envelope on my desk
Speaker 2: labeled genius. That's at the end of the day, I
Speaker 2: would just drop the index cards in there, and after
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, I'd dump them all out onto
Speaker 2: the big dining room table. And just started to clump
Speaker 2: them up. I was like, Oh, here's all the stuff
Speaker 2: on perfectionism, and here's all the stuff on procrastination, and
Speaker 2: here's the stuff on marketing when you're a sensitive, creative person.
Speaker 2: And here like, oh wow, I wrote this twice, apparently
Speaker 2: I really think that maybe this should like maybe I
Speaker 2: should start with this because I think this is really important, right,
Speaker 2: and I just and then when I was writing, oftentimes
Speaker 2: I would just reach my hand into the thing, pull
Speaker 2: it in the index card and be like, Okay, that's
Speaker 2: what I'm writing today.
Speaker 3: Ha ha.
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say, I pull out
Speaker 1: a card and it was like, this is a chapter,
Speaker 1: you know, this is the Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes it was the source of a chapter. Sometimes
Speaker 2: it was just a couple of lines. Sometimes it was
Speaker 2: a story that I wanted to make sure I included somewhere.
Speaker 2: But it, you know, it allowed a little I don't know,
Speaker 2: fortune telling, magic eight ball experience to it, and again
Speaker 2: allowed me to chunk it out. Because the quickest way
Speaker 2: to do nothing is to get overwhelmed and quit.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's going to and that's also going to
Speaker 1: lead to procrastination.
Speaker 2: So and you know, people keep asking me like, Sam,
Speaker 2: can I really change my life in fifteen minutes a day.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you already are.
Speaker 1: But the people that are unaware, that's the problem, Sam,
Speaker 1: is people are not aware. And I think when they
Speaker 1: see the accomplishments and perhaps maybe a subtle satisfaction like hey, wow,
Speaker 1: I just did that, Yeah, that's probably the beginning, right.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I've got people who've won grants. I've got people
Speaker 2: who've I've got three books published at least, I mean,
Speaker 2: not mine, people in my community who just you know,
Speaker 2: because the other thing that happens, of course, is the
Speaker 2: body is a pleasure seeking mechanism. So once you start
Speaker 2: doing this and you start seeing results and it starts
Speaker 2: feeling really good, you don't need to be motivated to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 1: You'll want to do it. You know, you can't wait
Speaker 1: to endorphins.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the endorphins, whether it's you know, singing or dancing
Speaker 2: in the kitchen, or playing an instrument or picking up
Speaker 2: something that you used to do that you loved. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's so many ways for you to bring more joy
Speaker 2: and light into your life without spending a fortune. Again,
Speaker 2: without you may end up having a divorce your spouse,
Speaker 2: You may end up having to move to an upstate.
Speaker 2: I can't tell you where your life is leading, but
Speaker 2: I can tell you that these little micro movements, like
Speaker 2: my friend Sark says, micro movements have a profound and
Speaker 2: exponential effect and again make you more the person that
Speaker 2: we already love.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, and I use this term lightly, but
Speaker 1: being your authentic self, yeah, is what you're aspiring you.
Speaker 1: What are your readers to accomplish? She's like, don't be
Speaker 1: somebody else, discover yourself.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wonderful, wonderful. The book is the fifteen minute method,
Speaker 1: the surprisingly simple art of getting it done. And my
Speaker 1: guest today has been Sam Bennett. Sam, this has been
Speaker 1: really fun. How can people get a hold of you?
Speaker 1: What's your website?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can find me at the real Sam Bennett
Speaker 2: dot com. Okay, the real saying. You know, my team
Speaker 2: keeps threatening to make the fake Sam Bennett dot which,
Speaker 2: of course would be me just being like, you know,
Speaker 2: there was scotch and cigarette. Don't do it, nobody cares.
Speaker 2: Don't do anything. Nobody cares. But no, find me at
Speaker 2: the real Sam Bennet dot com. I'm also on all
Speaker 2: the socials as the real Sam Bennett dot com.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Facebook, Instagram, she's on Twitter, she's on TikTok.
Speaker 2: Really love TikTok.
Speaker 1: That's fun. Wow. YouTube and LinkedIn So you give lectures.
Speaker 1: I guess read someplace on LinkedIn they have what is
Speaker 1: that is that LinkedIn's old lecture series.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a program called LinkedIn Learning. It started
Speaker 2: out as Linda dot com. You might remember Linda dot
Speaker 2: com from They were one of the first online learning platforms,
Speaker 2: and then they got bought by LinkedIn, and then LinkedIn
Speaker 2: got bought by Microsoft. So now LinkedIn Learning is a
Speaker 2: massive online learning platform and I have over a million
Speaker 2: course participants on LinkedIn, people from all over the world.
Speaker 2: That's my trainings and send me emails. It's wonderful. So
Speaker 2: y'all go over to the realsambannet dot com and hop
Speaker 2: in on whatever the opt in is, the little freebie,
Speaker 2: and then you'll be on my email list, which is
Speaker 2: really how I sort of communicate because I am on
Speaker 2: all these socials, but I don't always remember to say
Speaker 2: what I'm doing or that I'm selling something or that
Speaker 2: something's for sale or whatever. But also you can write
Speaker 2: to me and tell me about your fifteen minute experience
Speaker 2: and your projects, and we can be pen pals and
Speaker 2: best friends. It'll be great.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think your next book should be the results
Speaker 1: of using the fifteen minute method. Oh that's a great
Speaker 1: adaptors in chapters and chapters anyhow, Yes, Sam Bennett, it's
Speaker 1: been a pleasure, wonderful book and much success. This just
Speaker 1: came out. For those of you listening. She actually has
Speaker 1: an audible and you know what I say about audible.
Speaker 1: If you don't have time to read, listen, it's fantastic
Speaker 1: the fifteen minute method. Hey, much success.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Cliff, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: Thanks for being here, everybody.
Speaker 1: It's great to have Sam on the program. I really
Speaker 1: want to emphasize that this type of fifteen minute method
Speaker 1: is really downsizing the old school way of having to
Speaker 1: journal and meditate and process. You are not getting what
Speaker 1: you want. And this is what's so nice about these
Speaker 1: new authors who are distilling these decades of repetitious practice, meditation, journaling,
Speaker 1: not knowing what's going on. Fifteen minutes a day means
Speaker 1: that you sit down with a piece of paper or
Speaker 1: you perhaps have a notepad, and you're just processing. You're
Speaker 1: either writing, you are taking time to meditate whatever. And
Speaker 1: I really like the process in this book, so and
Speaker 1: it's wonderful. Sam did the narration for the audible version,
Speaker 1: a fifteen minute method. The book just came out. It's
Speaker 1: only been out for about a month, so Audible or
Speaker 1: go to Amazon or wherever you get your books to
Speaker 1: see if you can find it. I think I just
Speaker 1: saw it on Yeah, it's on Amazon right now, so
Speaker 1: you can get it right now. The surprisingly simple art
Speaker 1: of getting it done wow. Really fun. Hey, if you're
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Speaker 1: All right, that's it for this program. I want to
Speaker 1: thank my guest today, Sam Bennett, coming to us from
Speaker 1: Connecticut and her new book, The Fifteen Minute Method. As always,
Speaker 1: the team of Gail tor Mark Foster and everyone who
Speaker 1: makes this thing happen. I really appreciate it. All right,
Speaker 1: take care, be well, and we will talk to you
Speaker 1: next time.
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Speaker 1: And its calorous shellings.
Speaker 2: I have had piclorasion. I had it.
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