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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little late, but happy Autumn Equinox. We are

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<v Speaker 1>now officially into the Actually we're in autumn, and that

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<v Speaker 1>means that the days are going to start getting shorter,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's also a time for me to do my

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<v Speaker 1>week long fast. I do a I try to do

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<v Speaker 1>five day fast four times a year, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>able to do four or yeah, I did four days

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<v Speaker 1>last for the beginning of summer, and then the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of spring I did. I think I did five days,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's getting easier. You know, it's not easy to

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<v Speaker 1>just drink fluids for especially when you're working for a

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<v Speaker 1>week and you have For those of you who haven't fasted,

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<v Speaker 1>one day is not a problem. When you start getting

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<v Speaker 1>into three and four days, your body's like, okay, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to shut down and we are going to start

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<v Speaker 1>eliminating problem cells and disease processes that are going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and your body actually goes into a healing mode. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've had days where I have a fever because my

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<v Speaker 1>body's heating up and burning things out. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to have for our Biohacking Basic series we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have an authority on fasting for wellness. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>this gentleman has a clinic in Santa Rosa, which is

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<v Speaker 1>north of me. I'm here in the San Francisco Bay area.

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Rosa is about forty five miles north of me,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a healing clinic where they actually take

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<v Speaker 1>people who want to regain their health. Some people want

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<v Speaker 1>to regain their immune system. Some people may be ill,

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<v Speaker 1>and if they have a real hip doctor, they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to a fasting clinic to be supervised for a wellness. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>our ancestors use fasting quite regularly, and the indigenous people

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<v Speaker 1>used it quite regularly when they weren't feeling well, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a form of repair, body repair and a

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<v Speaker 1>way to boost the immunity. And we're going to learn

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<v Speaker 1>all about this, like I said, when we have this

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<v Speaker 1>expert on in October, fasting expert. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned the biohacking basics. We also have a functioning

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<v Speaker 1>medicine allopath and an aging person. And for those of

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<v Speaker 1>you who are not familiar with functioning medicine, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a new brand of allopathy which I hope begins to

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<v Speaker 1>take over the system. Because allopathy is all about dosing

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<v Speaker 1>you with medicine, surgical procedures, and then when they just

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<v Speaker 1>can't figure it out, they're going to irradiate you. All

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<v Speaker 1>very toxic forms of treatment, all very disconnected from the

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<v Speaker 1>healing body itself. And I have to say what I

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<v Speaker 1>hear from those of you who are practicing functional medicine. Yes, Barbara,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about you. Ha ha. My friend Barbara is a

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<v Speaker 1>functional medicine doctor. This is a branch of healing that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really hoping that more establishments HMOs here in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with Kaiser. Kaiser is so disconnected from healing. I

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<v Speaker 1>basically fired my doctor because all they had to do.

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<v Speaker 1>All they could provide me with is medicines. Oh, Cliff,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a cholester, Well we're going to give you

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<v Speaker 1>some statins. Well your blood pressure is a little high,

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<v Speaker 1>Well we're going to give you some blood thinners. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just not a solution, it's a problem. It

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<v Speaker 1>causes problems. I lost the use of my arm in

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico last year because I was on stands and I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to my cardiologists and she's like, well, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we got that's what we got for you. And I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>is there any other solution? Well, no, no, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a solution for it, you know, and they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's people are are are stampeding out of their doctor's

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<v Speaker 1>offices because they're sick of being medicated. This is not healing.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, they just had a survey of the

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<v Speaker 1>industrial nations and the United States fell last number ten

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<v Speaker 1>on the healthcare It's pathetic. The United States healthcare system

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<v Speaker 1>is pathetic. Going off on a tangent anyhow, getting back

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<v Speaker 1>to getting back to fasting. So I'm on my second day,

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<v Speaker 1>really almost the third day, because I started late in Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel fine. First two days are fine. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's the third day and the fourth day where the

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<v Speaker 1>body begins dumping toxins, cells and problems into the bloodstream

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<v Speaker 1>to get rid of it. And this is why you

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<v Speaker 1>need to drink lots of water, lots of fluids and

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<v Speaker 1>stay hydrated. And I tend to get very moody on

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<v Speaker 1>the third and fourth day because the body's getting rid

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<v Speaker 1>of toxes. But I have to say this, and again

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<v Speaker 1>this is not for everybody because you're not eating any food.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can do it. You can really do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and these supervised clinics can help. But you know you

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<v Speaker 1>start off easy. You don't do five days right off

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<v Speaker 1>the bat. If you want to fast, try twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>hours and then breaking the fast. You know you have

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<v Speaker 1>vegetables and so you don't eat a lot of heavy

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<v Speaker 1>proteins or sugar or gluten, and you'd be surprised how

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<v Speaker 1>great you feel. And we do this before you know,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, as each season changes, but also when

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<v Speaker 1>you're not feeling great, and the benefits are just amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I've been fasting for probably thirty plus years. I

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<v Speaker 1>go back to Bernard Jensen, who was a doctor of

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<v Speaker 1>chiropractor who had a sanitarium in Temechila, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>county down in the San Diego region of California. He

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I've mentioned this before, he would take

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<v Speaker 1>people who were extremely ill. They had cancers, they had

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<v Speaker 1>degenerative arthritis, they had multiple sclerosis, other really degenerative types

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<v Speaker 1>of illnesses, and he would take them on long fasts

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<v Speaker 1>and also calonics. Now I don't advocate colonics, but a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people do them. This is where you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>not eating and then you're flushing the large intestine with

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<v Speaker 1>water through colonic irrigation. This is putting a hose up

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<v Speaker 1>the rectum and then you flush the system well. He

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<v Speaker 1>documented people passing tumors and waste products, not feces, but

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<v Speaker 1>problems of the upper and lower colon. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, the medicals establisher just doesn't get this.

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<v Speaker 1>They just don't get it. This is why we're the

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<v Speaker 1>last place of industrial countries for healthcare. We just don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what to do. We're so stupid, and we're dosing

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<v Speaker 1>everybody with medicines. It's just causing more problem. So when

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<v Speaker 1>we have our functional medicine doctor on, she is great.

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<v Speaker 1>I've read her book and we're going to hear all

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<v Speaker 1>about this. And this is something that is being forced

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<v Speaker 1>on allopaths to change their system of wellness, change their

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<v Speaker 1>prescription methods, and to look at alternative nutrition, exercise, meditation,

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<v Speaker 1>and other wellness practices that are much more beneficial to people.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyhow, I'll let you know how my fast ends

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<v Speaker 1>next week. And I'm looking forward to a positive outcome,

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<v Speaker 1>which always happens. It always is a much positive outcome

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm much clearer, i feel better, I'm processing, I'm digesting,

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<v Speaker 1>and just feeling much much better across the board. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's part of the biohacking basics. The program today is

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<v Speaker 1>more for the tools for transformation theme. The title of

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<v Speaker 1>the book is that we're talking about is the fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>minute Method, the surprisingly simple art of getting it done.

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<v Speaker 1>And my guest is Sam Bennett, and I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>this book is wonderful. The interview was very very enlightening

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<v Speaker 1>because we're all bogged down into our nine to five existence,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get ahead of the joneses, trying to survive,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're not taking enough time for ourselves. What do

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<v Speaker 1>we really want individually? What do we really want to accomplish?

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<v Speaker 1>Do we want? I mean? And I like this because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're not thinking about our family, our kids,

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<v Speaker 1>our relatives, our friends. It's about us and you might

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<v Speaker 1>think that's selfish, but it's not. And when you hear

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<v Speaker 1>the techniques that we're going to present today and what's

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<v Speaker 1>featured in this book, it just came out the fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>minute method, you're going to love it. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>not about meditating, it's not about journaling. It's about sitting

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<v Speaker 1>down one day a week and considering yourself. So again.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's program is the fifteen Minute Method and my guest

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<v Speaker 1>is Sam Bennett. I think you're gonna enjoy this show.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably hear about all these amazing locations, these ancient

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<v Speaker 1>sites we visit on Earth, ancient Sand, here on Destiny,

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<v Speaker 1>but I got to tell you there's nothing like being

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<v Speaker 1>there in person. And we have a number of tours

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<v Speaker 1>that we schedule every year, some in far lands like

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<v Speaker 1>Turkey and Egypt, but some are closer to home, like Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have a great tour coming up in November,

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<v Speaker 1>the Sacred Mayan Temples of the Yucatan. It's November eighth

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<v Speaker 1>through the seventeenth of this year, one week of intense exploration.

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<v Speaker 1>This tour is designed for those of you who really

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<v Speaker 1>want to connect with these ancient places, feel an affinity

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<v Speaker 1>to the Maya, and just want to see ye close

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<v Speaker 1>and personal, what a pyramid looks like, what it feels like,

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<v Speaker 1>how you connect with them and the tolleric energy. For

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<v Speaker 1>more information on our upcoming tour, go to Earth Ancients

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<v Speaker 1>dot com, forward slash Tours and look for the banner

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<v Speaker 1>to Mexico. I gotta tell you this is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a good one. We're going to be going to Ushmol, Ticheniza, Lobna,

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<v Speaker 1>Sail and every place we go to. You can connect

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<v Speaker 1>by sitting, by meditating, by connecting with these sacred locations.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's nothing like climbing a Mayan pyramid and sitting

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<v Speaker 1>at the very top and getting bathed in this wonderful energy. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>come out and join us. It's November eight through the

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<v Speaker 1>seventeenth of this year. Go to Earth Ancients dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>forward slash tours and get all the information. How do

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<v Speaker 1>we live our life and be as successful as possible

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<v Speaker 1>without getting stuck. That's a big question I've always wondering about.

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<v Speaker 1>And my author, my guest today, is an author of

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<v Speaker 1>a really an interesting book. Not only is it provocative

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of guidance, and we all need guidance. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not all about meditating and hoping it happens the

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<v Speaker 1>way you are planning. But this is a way too.

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<v Speaker 1>In this new book, this is a a way to

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<v Speaker 1>go beyond the stress, strife, the problems that we all face.

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<v Speaker 1>And would you believe the title of this book is

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<v Speaker 1>the fifteen minute Method, the surprisingly simple art of getting

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<v Speaker 1>it done. And we're going to find out today what

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<v Speaker 1>that means. My guest today is Sam Bennett. She is

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<v Speaker 1>the author of Get It Done, Start right where you

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<v Speaker 1>are in this new book. She's a writer, speaker, actor,

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<v Speaker 1>creativity productivity specialists, and she is the founder of the

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<v Speaker 1>Real Sam Bennett dot Com, a company committed to helping

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelmed creatives and frustrated overachievers get unstuck. And she's coming

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<v Speaker 1>to us today from Connectiquette. Sam, I really like this book,

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<v Speaker 1>and I typically don't have a lot of time because

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<v Speaker 1>I have to go through a lot of different books.

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<v Speaker 1>But were you was this book kind of a next

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<v Speaker 1>step from your last book, or were you seeing people

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<v Speaker 1>and hearing from people that are like Sam, I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't get it. I'm just I'm in the muck, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in the manure, and I can't get out of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about the inception of this book.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, thank you so much, Cliff, thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi everybody, I'm so glad you're here. And yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 2>see if we can't change your life in fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 2>a day, how about that. Yeah. The impetus for this book,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little bit of some some from colum and

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<v Speaker 2>some from columb I was definitely hearing more and more

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<v Speaker 2>from people, I'm so overwhelmed, I'm so stressed out. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm working as hard as I can, as

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<v Speaker 2>much as I can, and I'm still not getting anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>There's too much input, I don't know where to look,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all these versions of I'm so busy, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so overwhelmed. And then my editor over at New World

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would not say I'm actually over long haul COVID.

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<v Speaker 2>out there living with long haul and any other long term, debilitating,

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<v Speaker 2>with long all you do not wake up feeling great

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<v Speaker 2>you wake up, I mean it's yeah. The main symptom

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<v Speaker 2>because if you just say fatigue, it sounds like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you're tired, take a nap. But no, this is different.

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<v Speaker 2>in bed seemed really ambitious, you know, like when you

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I can't imagine that, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>And for me it was reading like I could read anywhere, anytime, anything,

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, and all of a sudden I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>Because you just can't take any data in. You're just

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<v Speaker 1>your body is just like, leave me alone. I want

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<v Speaker 2>You got to imagine like the worst jet lag you've

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<v Speaker 2>your body's just like no, no, nothing, thank you. Nothing

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<v Speaker 2>is what we want. So yes, So a great deal

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<v Speaker 2>of this book was in fact written in fifteen minute

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<v Speaker 2>increments and edited in fifteen minute increments because that would

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, talk about the reason for this book and how

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<v Speaker 1>people can get fifteen minute increments into their day. And

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<v Speaker 1>then at the end of that, I'm going to give

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<v Speaker 1>you a three part why it's such a great benefit

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<v Speaker 1>to have the satisfaction that you are achieving something that

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. Yeah, So let's lay it out. So here's the

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen minute method. If you everybody wants to know, here

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<v Speaker 2>it is, pens clicked, let's go. Fifteen minute method. Is

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to spend fifteen minutes a day, every

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<v Speaker 2>single day, on something that matters to you. To Nah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's it, that's the whole thing. I turned that into

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<v Speaker 2>a whole book. But here's the kicker. I mean, here's

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<v Speaker 2>what I noticed is that most of us, most of you,

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<v Speaker 2>are running around all day getting everything for everybody, and

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff that really matters to you, that would really

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<v Speaker 2>make a difference to you, your heart, your body, your

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<v Speaker 2>family doesn't even make it onto the list, right. So,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know we psych ourselves out of things sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>we think, you know, well, I mean, Sam, I really

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<v Speaker 2>what I really want is to write a book. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know I need two months in promise. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I need a whole summer. I need all this time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I am all for two months in provoms. Please

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<v Speaker 2>call me, we'll go together. But I noticed that that

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<v Speaker 2>time is not always immediately available. However, everyone has fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care how busy you are or how unwell

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<v Speaker 2>you are. Really, I mean, there are certain degrees of unwell,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know what I'm saying, For the vast majority

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<v Speaker 2>of us, we can find fifteen minutes a day. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you take writing a book for an example, in

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen minutes, you can write two hundred and fifty words,

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<v Speaker 2>and in two hundred days that's fifty thousand words. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a book.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I was looking at the fifteen minutes and going,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do shit in fifteen minutes because I'm all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place. But you're right if you focus down

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<v Speaker 1>and you think of it as this is my creative time,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my juicy time, this is my personal time.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have kids, if you have obligations, it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like it's magic, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>It is one hundred percent magic, and it's actually sort

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<v Speaker 2>of three tiered magic because first of all, there is

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<v Speaker 2>the magic of how much you can get done in

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen minutes. It's shocking. Everyone is shocked. I am often shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I do it in almost every one of

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<v Speaker 2>my workshops where I say, okay, I'm going to set

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<v Speaker 2>their timer for fifteen minutes. You all put your pens

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<v Speaker 2>on paper and do XYZ for fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>So great, and almost.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time they are like amazing, Like I know. The

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<v Speaker 2>second part of the magic is every day, when you

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<v Speaker 2>are touching your project, every day, when you are making

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<v Speaker 2>incremental progress every day, you start to see exponential effects,

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<v Speaker 2>and we sort of get that logically. Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if I practice my ukulele for fifteen minutes a day

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<v Speaker 2>and not very long of a time, I would be

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<v Speaker 2>a better ukulele player. Right, Does the world need a

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<v Speaker 2>better ukulele player? I don't know. But in the course

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<v Speaker 2>of a week or a month, or a year or

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<v Speaker 2>six years or sixty six years, the thing I do

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<v Speaker 2>every day, not only am I going to get good at,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's sort of let see angels know I'm serious.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>The brain is really good at finding what it's looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you are putting a project right in front

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<v Speaker 2>of it every single day for fifteen minutes, whether that's

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<v Speaker 2>writing a book or playing ukulele or learning a language,

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<v Speaker 2>or decluttering your closet or you know, growing your business

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<v Speaker 2>or paying attention to your finances, whatever it is that's

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<v Speaker 2>up for you, there's a real magic to that, that

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<v Speaker 2>everyday commitment. And then finally there's this fabulous spillover effect, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And the same way that when you are grumpy and

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<v Speaker 2>minutes of giving you the gift of something that matters

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<v Speaker 2>to you. Oh my gosh, we love that version of you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're calmer, you're less reactive, You've got a little light

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<v Speaker 2>in your eyes, you're a better listener. Like it's the

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<v Speaker 2>same sort of I don't know, I wish there was

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<v Speaker 2>a word for like positive smugness, like the positive smugness

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<v Speaker 2>that you get when you, you know, hit the gym first

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<v Speaker 2>thing in the morning, or you have sex first thing

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning and you've been all day being like

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<v Speaker 2>that's right, I'm awesome. How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>But you're when you're you're we're feeding ourselves with those

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<v Speaker 1>where magic. Where the magic is is what you're telling

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<v Speaker 1>us in this book is that you need this to

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<v Speaker 1>be your best self.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, and stop expecting some magical day you know

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<v Speaker 2>when you're going to wake up with all the confidence

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<v Speaker 2>and free time and extra money in the world, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's not happening, and this constant pushing out of your

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<v Speaker 2>goals and dreams to like, well, I'll do it, you

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<v Speaker 2>know after the holidays, I'll do it when I get

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<v Speaker 2>that promotion. I'll do it when the kids X Y Z.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, today, the future is not guaranteed to

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<v Speaker 2>any of us do it today, And even stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>people really I think sometimes struggle with, like you're getting enough,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, exercise and movement. Every single health and medical

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<v Speaker 2>professional in the universe will tell you that fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 2>of you moving your body in any way, shape or

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<v Speaker 2>form is going to have an exponentially positive effect on

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. What if someone's listening and they go, Sam, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what I need to do for fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>How do I reach out and grab that one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to make me feel good about my nine

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<v Speaker 1>to five existence and screaming kids and I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>enough time for myself existence.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I love that question because it reminds me of

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<v Speaker 2>times in my life when I've really been neglecting my

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<v Speaker 2>own self, Like when I can't even answer the question

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<v Speaker 2>what do I want? It's like, what do I want?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know? What do you want? What do you

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<v Speaker 2>want for me? What can I do for you? Let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that, all right? So that tells me there

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<v Speaker 2>is a lot of room for you to discover. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I would invite you into, is I would

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead and make a list of a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen minute tasks that you just think, Well, I could doodle,

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<v Speaker 2>research the work of Eleanor Duza, I could you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Like whatever it is that bubbles up for you, go

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<v Speaker 2>ahead and write it down, and then maybe you pick

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<v Speaker 2>a different one every day. Maybe you find one that

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<v Speaker 2>It's really meant to It's really an infinitely flexible thing.

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<v Speaker 2>There is there's no right or wrong way to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not your mom. This is not school. You're

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<v Speaker 2>not getting graded like it's really the object of the

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<v Speaker 2>game is just the doing of it. And I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you for me. My fifteen minutes I do before I

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<v Speaker 2>even open my eyes. Almost in the morning, I do

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<v Speaker 2>it right away, well, even while I'm still sort of

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<v Speaker 2>half asleep. And I have this little sort of prayer, meditation,

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<v Speaker 2>breathing journaling process that I invented for myself over time,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's so lovely, you know. Sort of in the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>letter to me, depending on who needs to say what

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<v Speaker 2>to whom, and it doesn't take very much time. And

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<v Speaker 2>yet I notice that when I don't do it, things

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<v Speaker 2>go off the rails so vast, and when I do

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<v Speaker 2>do it again, I'm more in touch with myself. So

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<v Speaker 2>it may be if you don't know where to start,

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of different things. It may be that you just

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<v Speaker 2>want to start with that inquiry, you know, start with

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<v Speaker 2>a blank piece of paper and the question what do

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it'll look like kindergarten serial killer handwriting, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's okay. You know, do a little self and quiry,

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<v Speaker 2>Do whatever prayer, meditation, visualization work you like to do,

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<v Speaker 2>if that appeals.

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<v Speaker 2>Otherwise, do what's in front of you, you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>don't don't make your damist appointment, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it has to be something that's more what a

417
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<v Speaker 1>desire or an accomplishment. You don't really fine tune what

418
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<v Speaker 1>that item can be, but it has to be a

419
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<v Speaker 1>creative outlet. Let's talk about a point that you have

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<v Speaker 1>in your book. What time of day to do these

421
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<v Speaker 1>kinds of things. Some of us, like I get up

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning and when I mean, I get up

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<v Speaker 1>at seven thirty to start my day and that's my

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<v Speaker 1>highest creativity where I do writing and things like that.

425
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<v Speaker 1>But other people may have other times of the day

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<v Speaker 1>where they do that. Talk a little bit about the

427
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<v Speaker 1>importance of having that creative muse as what we use

428
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<v Speaker 1>the term, use that guidance when should people be doing

429
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<v Speaker 1>this work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to underline one thing that you said.

431
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<v Speaker 2>You talked about using this time for creative work. And

432
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<v Speaker 2>I don't want people to turn off and go, oh,

433
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not creative, which is what a lot of people

434
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<v Speaker 2>will say. Because there's there's a little vocabulary problem in

435
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<v Speaker 2>our country. We have conflated the words creative and artistic, right,

436
00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>and those are two different things. Not everyone is artistic

437
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<v Speaker 2>and that's fine, but everyone is creative. Creativity has to

438
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<v Speaker 2>do with innovative problem solving. It has to do with

439
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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you've ever solved a problem differently than

440
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<v Speaker 2>anybody else has ever solved the problem, Congratulations, you are

441
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<v Speaker 2>a creative genius. And so for some people that's tying flies,

442
00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:45.559
<v Speaker 2>for some people it's coding. For some people, it's knowing

443
00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:48.480
<v Speaker 2>what compliment to give, you know, making other people feel

444
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<v Speaker 2>great about themselves. So wherever you know. Sometimes I'll talk

445
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<v Speaker 2>about people having a zone of creative genius or multiple

446
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<v Speaker 2>zones of creative genius, and at tip to Kay Hendrix

447
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<v Speaker 2>and to Katie Hendrix for their work on zones of genius.

448
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<v Speaker 2>But your zone of creative genius is like that thing

449
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<v Speaker 2>that you've always been good at, You've always had sort

450
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<v Speaker 2>of a natural knack for. Maybe nobody else in your

451
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<v Speaker 2>family or your community is interested in it, but you are.

452
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<v Speaker 2>It's the thing that if somebody woke you up at

453
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<v Speaker 2>three in the morning and said, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Cliff,

454
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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna go do X y Z you want to go,

455
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<v Speaker 2>and you'd be like, yeah, oh for sure, where's my shoes? Okay,

456
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<v Speaker 2>I'm coming, I'm coming right Whatever that is that start there,

457
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<v Speaker 2>start there? Okay, So I got off a little tangent

458
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<v Speaker 2>about creativity and about your zone of creative genius. What

459
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<v Speaker 2>time of day again, Yeah, it's really infinitely flexible. I

460
00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:45.279
<v Speaker 2>like you, I'm better in the morning. And also I

461
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<v Speaker 2>find if I put stuff off to where in the

462
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<v Speaker 2>middle or the end of the day, it's easy for

463
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<v Speaker 2>it to fall off. Yeah, in between the cyber cracks

464
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<v Speaker 2>right once I check email kind of it's all over,

465
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<v Speaker 2>So I like to do it first thing. But do

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<v Speaker 2>it when it works for.

467
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<v Speaker 1>You, you know.

468
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<v Speaker 2>I mean some people like to do it during their

469
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<v Speaker 2>lunch break. Some people like to do it in mid afternoon,

470
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<v Speaker 2>you know, take a fifteen minute walk or just go

471
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<v Speaker 2>outside for fifteen minutes to counteract that mid afternoon slump.

472
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<v Speaker 2>Some people can't do it till after the kids are

473
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<v Speaker 2>in bed. Some people love to get up, you know,

474
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<v Speaker 2>be up at three in the morning. So really, you

475
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<v Speaker 2>do what works for you and be prepared to be flexible.

476
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<v Speaker 2>I mean that sometimes there's stuff that like, oh, this

477
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<v Speaker 2>works so perfectly for my schedule right now, but then

478
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<v Speaker 2>something will change all of a sudden, They're not going

479
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<v Speaker 2>to middle schoo anymore. They're in high school now, their

480
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<v Speaker 2>schedule is different, and now you can't do it at

481
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<v Speaker 2>the same time. So don't you know, don't get too

482
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<v Speaker 2>precious about it, but yeah, figure out something that works

483
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<v Speaker 2>for you.

484
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<v Speaker 1>Is it important to do it every day? Can we

485
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<v Speaker 1>skip a day, skip a week? Talk about the locking

486
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<v Speaker 1>it in and why and we don't want to get

487
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<v Speaker 1>into psychology and physiology, but why it's probably a healing benefit.

488
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<v Speaker 1>To do it every day and to accumulate the positivity

489
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<v Speaker 1>or use some language in this area, because I think

490
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<v Speaker 1>this is a big one for some people who might go, oh,

491
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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do this wow, and the next day

492
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<v Speaker 1>I'm tired. I don't want to bother right.

493
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<v Speaker 2>Well again, I really want to get people away from

494
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<v Speaker 2>this world of self punishment. You know that oh I

495
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<v Speaker 2>did it wrong, or oh I messed it up, or

496
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<v Speaker 2>only I did I only did three days last week,

497
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<v Speaker 2>So what that's three days more than you did the

498
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<v Speaker 2>week before. Feel good about it? Do? I think there's

499
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<v Speaker 2>magic to doing it every day? Absolutely absolutely. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I think when you touch something every day, when you

501
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<v Speaker 2>touch a project or an idea or a goal or

502
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<v Speaker 2>a commitment every day, you know, it keeps it top

503
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<v Speaker 2>of mind for you. You're always sort of spinning on it.

504
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<v Speaker 2>You'll see more opportunities around it. It'll become more of

505
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<v Speaker 2>the fabric of your life. It'll also get you used

506
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<v Speaker 2>to springing into action and being decisive and moving forward.

507
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<v Speaker 2>You know, money many loves decisions, and money loves speed,

508
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<v Speaker 2>and creativity loves decisions and creativity loves speed. So to

509
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<v Speaker 2>get out of that, well, it's not perfect. Well, I'm

510
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:11.519
<v Speaker 2>still thinking about it. Well, I'm not sure to just

511
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<v Speaker 2>into like, no, I'm just doing it. It's fifteen minutes.

512
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<v Speaker 2>How perfect is it going to be? I'm going to

513
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<v Speaker 2>do it on tomorrow anyway, So I'm just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a friend who taught herself art. She taught

515
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<v Speaker 2>herself to be an artist because she wanted to, and

516
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<v Speaker 2>so she bought a pack of watercolors because she heard

517
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<v Speaker 2>those were the easiest to start with, and she started

518
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<v Speaker 2>watching YouTube videos and for fifteen minutes a day, every

519
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:35.400
<v Speaker 2>single day, she started painting. And it's true when she started,

520
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.960
<v Speaker 2>they were not great, yeah, but she was really loving

521
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<v Speaker 2>learning about it and really loving the experience.

522
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<v Speaker 1>And that's the key is that you're picking something not

523
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<v Speaker 1>that somebody else wants in your life. It's something that

524
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<v Speaker 1>you have a desire for, right, So, maybe, like you're saying,

525
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<v Speaker 1>somebody who wanted to become an artist, she started doing

526
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<v Speaker 1>a fifteen minute practice and all of a sudden, I

527
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<v Speaker 1>don't know how many years she practiced, but she's competent

528
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<v Speaker 1>on some level. Or maybe it's satisfaction, right.

529
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<v Speaker 2>Exactly a couple of years later, she has a beautiful

530
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<v Speaker 2>studio in her house. She does art all the time,

531
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<v Speaker 2>and she started designing patterns like fabrics and amazing designs

532
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:15.720
<v Speaker 2>like she's a beautiful colorist. She's a beautiful artist, and

533
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<v Speaker 2>more than that, it lights her up. Right, And we've

534
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<v Speaker 2>all heard over and over again those reports from hospice, right,

535
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<v Speaker 2>the number one regrets of the dying are I wish

536
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<v Speaker 2>I had spent more time on the things that mattered

537
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<v Speaker 2>to me and less time on the things that I

538
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<v Speaker 2>thought mattered to other people.

539
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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of a downer, Sam.

540
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<v Speaker 2>Jesus, I'm telling you this. I hate to say it,

541
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:39.319
<v Speaker 2>but it's really one of the things that drives my

542
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<v Speaker 2>entire business. I hardly ever talk about it, but I

543
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:45.599
<v Speaker 2>am slightly obsessed with the fact that we die. We

544
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<v Speaker 2>are all here with a unique voice and a unique gift,

545
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.480
<v Speaker 2>and a unique experience of the world, and unique talents

546
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:55.960
<v Speaker 2>and skills. And we don't know how long we're here for, right.

547
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<v Speaker 2>We know that it's a one way ticket, but we

548
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<v Speaker 2>don't know for how long. We're all old enough to

549
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:03.680
<v Speaker 2>have lost friends, right. We all have people who aren't

550
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<v Speaker 2>here anymore to do their work. And I am so

551
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<v Speaker 2>grateful to my friends who did do their work. You know,

552
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:12.839
<v Speaker 2>where they may not be here, but their book is here,

553
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<v Speaker 2>or their drawings are here, or the card that they

554
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:19.519
<v Speaker 2>wrote to me is here, Like that makes an impact

555
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<v Speaker 2>on the world. I've got my great grandmother's recipes because

556
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<v Speaker 2>she took the time to write them down and save

557
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<v Speaker 2>them for us.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a short commercial break to allow

559
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<v Speaker 1>our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly

560
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<v Speaker 1>with my guest today, Sam Bennett, discussing her brand new book,

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<v Speaker 1>The fifteen Minute Method. We'll be right back. My guest

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<v Speaker 1>today is author Sam Bennett, who has written a new

563
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<v Speaker 1>book called The fifteen Minute Method, The Surprisingly Simple Art

564
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<v Speaker 1>of Getting It Done, and we're discussing the various techniques

565
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<v Speaker 1>creatively affecting your life. Would you also say that your

566
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<v Speaker 1>book The fifteen Minute Method is also about finding your

567
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<v Speaker 1>passion because you talk about people who are It doesn't

568
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<v Speaker 1>have to be creative in terms of painting or writing.

569
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<v Speaker 1>It could be somebody who wants to figure out a

570
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<v Speaker 1>new financial plan for retirement, who may be in the

571
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<v Speaker 1>numbers and maybe want to try something new, how to

572
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<v Speaker 1>invest or somebody. Talk about the different aspects of that

573
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<v Speaker 1>fifteen minute Method and where because it disguise the limit right.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And I'll tell you I have a fantasy. You

575
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<v Speaker 2>want to hear my fantasy. Here's my fantasy. My fantasy

576
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<v Speaker 2>is that this will that. First of all, Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>I keep reading about how seventy seven percent of employees

578
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<v Speaker 2>are disengaged, oh from their job. Yeah, seventy seven percent.

579
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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot. Like if you lost seventy seven percent

580
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<v Speaker 2>of your money, you would notice if seventy seven percent

581
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<v Speaker 2>of your friends went away, you would notice, Like, that's

582
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<v Speaker 2>a huge percentage. So this is a very expensive problem,

583
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<v Speaker 2>it seems to me, for corporate America. And while I

584
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<v Speaker 2>have had Lord knows every job under the sun. I

585
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:00.760
<v Speaker 2>was a Whitewater river guide, I was a briist, I

586
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:04.840
<v Speaker 2>produced radio dramas, I cocktail waitress, I did the scarffying

587
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:08.480
<v Speaker 2>demonstrations and Lord and Taylor like, I've done everything, but

588
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I've never had a job in corporate America. So you

589
00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:13.079
<v Speaker 2>all can tell me how real this is. But I

590
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<v Speaker 2>feel like it would be a beautiful thing for a

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<v Speaker 2>company to say, hey, you know what, people, we recognize

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<v Speaker 2>that you are a person with a life outside of

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<v Speaker 2>this office, and so we want to give you between

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<v Speaker 2>eight and eight fifteen every morning, or between four and

595
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<v Speaker 2>four to fifteen every afternoon, or between twelve thirty and

596
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<v Speaker 2>twelve forty five every day, and that's just you time. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Don't check your email, don't schedule meetings, just do your

598
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<v Speaker 2>thing for fifteen minutes. End of star.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved that idea. I was in Corporated America and

600
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<v Speaker 1>you're like a number. Of course, literally the higher ups

601
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<v Speaker 1>don't even know you exist for the most part.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly right. So it seems to me a very cheap,

603
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<v Speaker 2>simple thing to just say, like, hey, you do you

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<v Speaker 2>for fifteen minutes?

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

606
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<v Speaker 2>But here's where I think it's really going to work

607
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<v Speaker 2>is so now we all go into the meeting, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I would introduce my myself saying, oh, hi,

609
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<v Speaker 2>I'm Sam from Sales and Marketing, but maybe I say Hi,

610
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<v Speaker 2>I'm Sam from Sales and Marketing. And I spent my

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen minutes today working on a needle point that I

612
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<v Speaker 2>was making for my goddaughter when she was born, and

613
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<v Speaker 2>now she's about to graduate from high school, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>super excited to get it done. Yeah, And there are

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<v Speaker 2>studies that show that when you allow people to do

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<v Speaker 2>that to comment, First of all, get everybody's voices into

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<v Speaker 2>the room right away with a meeting, right, so everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>engaged and share something about themselves as a person. They'll

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<v Speaker 2>do better in the meeting because they've reminded themselves of

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<v Speaker 2>the fullness of their experience. Right, They're not just coming

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<v Speaker 2>with their sales and marketing hat on. They've reminded themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's right, I'm a person with family and friends

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<v Speaker 2>and needlework and commitments and things. And then here's the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of my fantasy. Down at the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>table is Debbie from accounting, with whom I have never

626
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<v Speaker 2>gotten along. And Debbie says, Hi, I'm w from accounting

627
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<v Speaker 2>and I spent my fifteen minutes today doing count across stitch.

628
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<v Speaker 2>Oh what well, No, we're needlework buddies. Now we can

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<v Speaker 2>talk embroidery flaws. And of course she does count across

630
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<v Speaker 2>stitch because she's an account of course. Right now we've

631
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<v Speaker 2>got something in common, and you know what, we call

632
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<v Speaker 2>that engagement.

633
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<v Speaker 1>And that's really important because most of these corporate worlds

634
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<v Speaker 1>are sterile and they're there. You're just another number. You come,

635
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<v Speaker 1>you do your job, and you leave, and it's really sad.

636
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<v Speaker 1>People aren't engaged. You're right, it's right, and.

637
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<v Speaker 2>We all know that people. You people do way more

638
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<v Speaker 2>for other people than they will for any job.

639
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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you know the times when you've really made an

641
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<v Speaker 2>extraordinary effort, it's because you cared about the person, You

642
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<v Speaker 2>cared about that manager, you cared about that project, you

643
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<v Speaker 2>cared about that you know that team.

644
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah. Helping people engage with themselves and their own

646
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<v Speaker 2>creativity and engage with each other and with each other's creativity,

647
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<v Speaker 2>I think would be kind of.

648
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<v Speaker 1>I want to remind and suggest to the reader that

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<v Speaker 1>they get this listener, that they get this book because

650
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<v Speaker 1>it's written in very short, exacting chapters and I like

651
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<v Speaker 1>it because I don't have a lot of time to read.

652
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<v Speaker 1>But if you have ADHD or your minds all over

653
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<v Speaker 1>the place, it's a great book because you can get

654
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<v Speaker 1>into a third of the book without really thinking too

655
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<v Speaker 1>much and just passing through. I want you to talk

656
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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about something that I found was wonderful

657
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<v Speaker 1>and actually very important in your book, which is getting

658
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<v Speaker 1>enough rest. And if you're burnt out and you'd have

659
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<v Speaker 1>no energy, you're not going to be creative. You're not

660
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<v Speaker 1>going to call on the muse talk about creating a

661
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<v Speaker 1>rest diary.

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<v Speaker 3>This was really a great idea because if you're coming home,

663
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<v Speaker 3>or if you wake up and you're already tired because

664
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<v Speaker 3>you've been exhausted all through the week, you need to

665
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<v Speaker 3>look at your your energy levels.

666
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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, talk about creating this diary and why it's

667
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<v Speaker 1>so critical to get this fifteen minute method ongoing and

668
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<v Speaker 1>really running.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, well, true productivity is not about getting more done.

670
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<v Speaker 2>It's about getting more of what matters done. And as

671
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<v Speaker 2>they say, what gets measured matters. So you know, if

672
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<v Speaker 2>you're on a weight loss or fitness journey, you're going

673
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<v Speaker 2>to measure your calories and your pounds and your inches

674
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<v Speaker 2>and your weights in your reps. Right, if you're and

675
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<v Speaker 2>if you're on a journey to get better rest, then

676
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<v Speaker 2>you need to track your rest. And the first thing

677
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:50.519
<v Speaker 2>I want you to look at is what are you

678
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<v Speaker 2>doing that is genuinely RESTful, Because I'm here to tell

679
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<v Speaker 2>you that revenge doom scrolling you're doing at night in

680
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<v Speaker 2>bed that is not RESTful. That binge watching. I mean,

681
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<v Speaker 2>I love TV, don't get me wrong, but we all

682
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:10.559
<v Speaker 2>do that thing sometimes where we just sort of vegetate

683
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<v Speaker 2>and let it wash over us. And you know, occasionally

684
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<v Speaker 2>I'm all for it, But every night that is not

685
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:18.519
<v Speaker 2>restoring your soul, that is not lighting you up, that

686
00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:21.159
<v Speaker 2>is not giving you energy. Right, things are RESTful when

687
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:22.679
<v Speaker 2>they restore your energy.

688
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:25.559
<v Speaker 1>So you need to turn all the social media off.

689
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Like I watch TikTok in bed just before I go

690
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:30.960
<v Speaker 1>to sleep. It's like me too. I think it's because

691
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm so addicted to it.

692
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<v Speaker 2>It's just so addicted.

693
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know it's probably really not good for

694
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<v Speaker 1>my psyche and also my my brain.

695
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<v Speaker 2>It's not good for your psyche, it's not good for

696
00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:44.400
<v Speaker 2>your brain. The blue light is not good for your sleep,

697
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:47.519
<v Speaker 2>like make and this is where we get to be

698
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<v Speaker 2>really good parents to ourself, right, you know, because the

699
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<v Speaker 2>little kid inside of us is like I want to treat,

700
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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to talk, I don't want to go

701
00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:57.480
<v Speaker 2>to bed, and the grown up in us has to say,

702
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<v Speaker 2>I know, sweetheart, I know, but we're gonna we'll watch

703
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<v Speaker 2>TikTok pretend, you know, for fifteen minutes in the morning.

704
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:05.360
<v Speaker 2>That can be your prize. We're going to sleep right now,

705
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:11.119
<v Speaker 2>right or whatever it is. Again. Sometimes people I know

706
00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:14.679
<v Speaker 2>spend their fifteen minutes, stretching or laying down, you know,

707
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:18.079
<v Speaker 2>with their legs up against the wall, or using a

708
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<v Speaker 2>thera gun. H one of those massagers sitting out just

709
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<v Speaker 2>you know, sitting out in the sunshine, hugging a tree,

710
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:33.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, attending to their houseplants. Like, what are the

711
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:40.920
<v Speaker 2>things that can correct some of that imbalance around too

712
00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:45.199
<v Speaker 2>much input and not enough output, not enough neutral time

713
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.880
<v Speaker 2>and not enough output, right because right now we're so

714
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:52.400
<v Speaker 2>busy consuming every last little thing, reading every last article,

715
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:56.960
<v Speaker 2>watching every last video, watching every stream, that we exhaust

716
00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:00.239
<v Speaker 2>ourselves and you need to reset to neutral and then

717
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:02.599
<v Speaker 2>you need output as well. We need a balance of

718
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:05.039
<v Speaker 2>these things in order to feel well rested.

719
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<v Speaker 1>Talk a little bit about your own journey, Sam, because

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<v Speaker 1>you were saying when you started doing this that not

721
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<v Speaker 1>only did you get more satisfaction in life, but you

722
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:18.639
<v Speaker 1>accomplish things like you able to write more books, You're

723
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:20.760
<v Speaker 1>able to do some of the things that you know,

724
00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:23.559
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember exactly what they were, but when you

725
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:30.639
<v Speaker 1>begin to work in this fifteen minute model, it actually

726
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:34.559
<v Speaker 1>is satisfactory on unconscious levels.

727
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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's right, I mean, I think we dismissed the

728
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<v Speaker 2>cognitive load, the psychological load of that which is undone.

729
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:46.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, when we're carrying around like, oh I really

730
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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do this, cuasi, Oh I really wish I

731
00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:49.599
<v Speaker 2>could get to that. Oh I really want to do that,

732
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:54.199
<v Speaker 2>but I'm not doing any of it. That's exhausting mentally. Yeah,

733
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:56.679
<v Speaker 2>moving forward, even just a little bit is such a

734
00:43:56.760 --> 00:43:59.679
<v Speaker 2>relief and so energizing. Sometimes. I give the example of

735
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<v Speaker 2>sometimes people are like, well, see, I'm you know, I

736
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<v Speaker 2>need to clean out my garage, right. It's really weighing

737
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<v Speaker 2>on me. It's a big problem. I've got to do it,

738
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:08.440
<v Speaker 2>and I need two free weekends. I mean, I can't

739
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:10.920
<v Speaker 2>do that in fifteen minutes. And again I'm gonna say,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, show me those two free weekends, because

741
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:14.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't have them, and I don't think you do either,

742
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:16.199
<v Speaker 2>And if you did, I don't think you want to

743
00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:20.760
<v Speaker 2>spend them in the garage. But to my point, what

744
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<v Speaker 2>I might suggest is make yourself a mug of something

745
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:28.079
<v Speaker 2>and go out into the garage for fifteen minutes and

746
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:30.239
<v Speaker 2>just be with the garage.

747
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Just take it all in, Just observe the.

748
00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Garage, take it in, see what the garage has to

749
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:40.760
<v Speaker 2>say to you. Don't touch anything, just check it out

750
00:44:41.519 --> 00:44:45.320
<v Speaker 2>with no agenda other than being there. And it may

751
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:49.000
<v Speaker 2>be that, like minute twelve, you go, wait a minute,

752
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:54.039
<v Speaker 2>those seven boxes belong to my brother Jeffrey. Jeffrey, can

753
00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:55.679
<v Speaker 2>I get your boxes? Well, now you clean out a

754
00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:58.000
<v Speaker 2>whole corner you didn't if you do anything. Yeah, And

755
00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:00.599
<v Speaker 2>maybe the next day you go in again of something

756
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:02.840
<v Speaker 2>you'd look in one of the rubber Maid boxes, you go, oh,

757
00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:05.719
<v Speaker 2>that has holiday stuff in it. So then you put

758
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:07.800
<v Speaker 2>a big label on it says holiday, and you shove

759
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:09.119
<v Speaker 2>it to the back because you only need that stuff

760
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:12.559
<v Speaker 2>once a year. And maybe the next day you roll

761
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:14.679
<v Speaker 2>that broken bicycle out to the curb and put a

762
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:18.199
<v Speaker 2>sign on it that says free broken bicycle. And in

763
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:21.360
<v Speaker 2>this way, in this fashion, you can in fact clear

764
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:24.079
<v Speaker 2>out your garage in fifteen minutes a day. And more

765
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<v Speaker 2>than that, the joy of moving forward, the joy of

766
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<v Speaker 2>making decisions, of knowing that you've moved even a tiny bit,

767
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:36.159
<v Speaker 2>you know. Tony she wrote a terrific book God Bless

768
00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:41.199
<v Speaker 2>Tony Shay called Delivering Happiness, and one of he was

769
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<v Speaker 2>the founder of Zappos, and one of the things he

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<v Speaker 2>denoted as a condition of happiness is progress or perceived progress,

771
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<v Speaker 2>which is how they do like the lines at Disneyland,

772
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:56.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, like where you just like go through a

773
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<v Speaker 2>bunch of different environments as you're in the line to

774
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:01.880
<v Speaker 2>sort of make you feel like you're closer, even though

775
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:03.159
<v Speaker 2>the line is like a million miles.

776
00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Part of the line is an experience.

777
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:08.559
<v Speaker 2>Right exactly. So the fact that there's perceived progress, like okay,

778
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:12.920
<v Speaker 2>we're moving forward, that's that people's happiness or an element

779
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<v Speaker 2>of happiness.

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00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:18.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay. You have another area that I think is really good.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to do it to myself or for myself,

782
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:24.840
<v Speaker 1>is when you're working on something and you give yourself

783
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:30.360
<v Speaker 1>a little rewards, you know, which I was really happy

784
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:33.639
<v Speaker 1>to read that in your book because you know, stopping

785
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:36.119
<v Speaker 1>and saying, hey, I'm going to have a bit of

786
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:39.639
<v Speaker 1>a chocolate bar or which you're not supposed to eat

787
00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:43.880
<v Speaker 1>or something if you're on a weird diet. I don't know,

788
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:51.719
<v Speaker 1>but just little acknowledgments which are the rewards of your

789
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:54.320
<v Speaker 1>work is in critical is a really critical part of

790
00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:56.920
<v Speaker 1>this program. Talk a bit about that.

791
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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right. You would never expect a child or

792
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:05.039
<v Speaker 2>a dog or a team member to put in hard,

793
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:07.480
<v Speaker 2>consistent work on something and not get an at a girl,

794
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<v Speaker 2>you know, not get a treat. Ye so, and yet

795
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:15.159
<v Speaker 2>we expect ourselves to work ourselves into the ground, and

796
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:17.280
<v Speaker 2>then all we do is beraate ourselves for not doing more.

797
00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:22.079
<v Speaker 2>So I want to say, stop, acknowledge how far you've come.

798
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Give yourself a present and it can be whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean again, Sometimes I promise myself that if I

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00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:30.519
<v Speaker 2>do a thing, I can call my friend Margaret in Chicago,

801
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<v Speaker 2>because I'm always happy to talk to Margaret and we

802
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:35.239
<v Speaker 2>never have enough time to talk. Sometimes I'll, you know,

803
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<v Speaker 2>make a cup of the fancy tea that I got

804
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:40.559
<v Speaker 2>in England. You know, sometimes it'll be a little square

805
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<v Speaker 2>of chocolate. And you know, if you're on a diet

806
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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't allow you to have even a little square

807
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<v Speaker 2>of chocolate, I.

808
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<v Speaker 1>That would be huge.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry. I hope you have something that you like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, buy the good olives at the

811
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:56.159
<v Speaker 2>grocery store, like whatever it is that you go, Oh yeah, okay,

812
00:47:56.960 --> 00:48:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm cool, I'm special. I get a little treat like absolutely, boy,

813
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:05.079
<v Speaker 2>buoy yourself up that way. I have a friend who,

814
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:08.920
<v Speaker 2>in their daily journaling process, they write down three things

815
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:12.320
<v Speaker 2>that they're proud of themselves for doing that day. You know,

816
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:14.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm proud of myself for not losing my temper. I'm

817
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:16.840
<v Speaker 2>proud of myself for only having one square of chocolate.

818
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm proud of myself for putting that broken bike out

819
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:23.880
<v Speaker 2>on the curb, like really taking the time. Because you know,

820
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:27.840
<v Speaker 2>many of us did not exactly grow up in the

821
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:32.920
<v Speaker 2>happy childhood club. Oh boy, and right yeah, and sometimes

822
00:48:33.239 --> 00:48:36.519
<v Speaker 2>not only were our mistakes not met with grace, but

823
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:42.400
<v Speaker 2>our accomplishments were not met with grace. So we're grown

824
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:45.039
<v Speaker 2>ups now again. We get to reparent ourselves. We get

825
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:47.639
<v Speaker 2>to say, honey, I am so proud of you. Look

826
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:50.519
<v Speaker 2>how great you're doing. You wrote two hundred words today.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the reward and the outcome of doing this practice,

829
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<v Speaker 1>this work is it to fill a more complete sense

830
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<v Speaker 1>of being on the planet and fulfilling a not a

831
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:13.599
<v Speaker 1>requirement that's the wrong word, but a purpose. I have

832
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<v Speaker 1>purpose in why I'm here. That's what it feels like

833
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<v Speaker 1>to me while you wrote this book, is you're seeing

834
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<v Speaker 1>people that seem kind of out of sorts, out of

835
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<v Speaker 1>they're not connected. They might have a nice facade where

836
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<v Speaker 1>they're smiling, and they have their makeup on, but behind

837
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:34.000
<v Speaker 1>that facade, they're crying. They're miserable, and what the hell

838
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<v Speaker 1>am I doing here?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, that's definitely a lot of it. I mean,

840
00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:43.159
<v Speaker 2>and I've lived with depression and anxiety my whole life,

841
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:46.039
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes it's just the wallpaper of every room I'm in,

842
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:51.639
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes it really eats my launch and uh, you

843
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:59.840
<v Speaker 2>know again invisible diseases, right, And I think that being

844
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<v Speaker 2>able to combat whether it's just sort of operational on

845
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<v Speaker 2>WEI or the middle aged blas or of a sandwich

846
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<v Speaker 2>generation pressure, or however you want, you know, the mid

847
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<v Speaker 2>the quarter life crisis, however you want to describe it.

848
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<v Speaker 2>Life is challenging, but finding joy doesn't have to be hard,

849
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:27.920
<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't require you to necessarily leave your marriage

850
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<v Speaker 2>or quit your job, or you know, move to another state.

851
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:36.559
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's there's little things you can do that

852
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<v Speaker 2>will vastly improve your experience of every day. And I

853
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<v Speaker 2>noticed this maybe you do too. People tend to spend

854
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of time talking about all the things they

855
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<v Speaker 2>cannot control, and not nearly enough time controlling the things

856
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<v Speaker 2>over which they have one hundred percent control.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I like that you have a number of different

858
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<v Speaker 1>states that you describe in your book, and one of

859
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<v Speaker 1>them is called zone of creative genius? Does everybody have that?

860
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<v Speaker 1>Is that something that you begin to realize once you're

861
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<v Speaker 1>doing this work that there's while you're doing it. Maybe

862
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:23.760
<v Speaker 1>it opens an awareness of your project on a different level,

863
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:24.679
<v Speaker 1>or something to talk about that.

864
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we talked about a little bit earlier. That

865
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<v Speaker 2>thing that you know, if somebody woke you up at

866
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<v Speaker 2>three am, that's whatever that thing is, you know, the

867
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<v Speaker 2>thing that your family and friends are oh right, might

868
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<v Speaker 2>say to you. You know, like wait a minute, you're

869
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<v Speaker 2>driving how far to go to a conference on what?

870
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<v Speaker 2>And you're like, no, no, I'm super excited. I can't wait.

871
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<v Speaker 2>So that's a great place to start. And one of

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<v Speaker 2>the ways one of the things I talk about in

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<v Speaker 2>the book is I know that everybody has his own

874
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:54.400
<v Speaker 2>of creative genius because every office I've ever worked in,

875
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:55.960
<v Speaker 2>like I said, I've never had a corporate job, but

876
00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I've had plenty of office jobs. There is a birthday

877
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:02.920
<v Speaker 2>person in every office. There is somebody who takes it

878
00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:06.119
<v Speaker 2>upon themselves to say, Okay, today's Cliff's birthday, and they

879
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:08.039
<v Speaker 2>hand around the card and they bring in the cupcakes

880
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:11.360
<v Speaker 2>and they put up a little sign and you know whatever.

881
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:18.119
<v Speaker 2>And I find that mysterious and delightful because frankly, I

882
00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:21.239
<v Speaker 2>don't care about birthdays. I don't care about I don't

883
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:23.440
<v Speaker 2>care about my birthday. I don't care about your birthday.

884
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't care about any of its birthday. I'm not

885
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:26.599
<v Speaker 2>a birthday person. I know those people are like, it's

886
00:52:26.599 --> 00:52:28.440
<v Speaker 2>my birthday, was celebrate all month long. I'm like, that's

887
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:30.920
<v Speaker 2>bad for you. That is not my scene. So I

888
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:33.519
<v Speaker 2>think it's delightful that somebody would take that on. And

889
00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:35.760
<v Speaker 2>if you ask them about it, if you say, hey,

890
00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:38.639
<v Speaker 2>don't you mind you know, doing this every couple of weeks,

891
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:40.719
<v Speaker 2>and they say, no, I love it. I'm so happy

892
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:43.639
<v Speaker 2>to do it. I really I love doing it. Well,

893
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:46.800
<v Speaker 2>that's that person's zone of creative genius. And if they

894
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:49.400
<v Speaker 2>were to maybe start their own business, maybe it would

895
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:53.239
<v Speaker 2>be in events or hospitality, but maybe it would just

896
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:55.039
<v Speaker 2>maybe it would be in hr and in how to

897
00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:58.719
<v Speaker 2>recognize people and help people feel valued. Maybe it would

898
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:02.760
<v Speaker 2>be in in a therapeutic modality, you know, helping people

899
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:08.039
<v Speaker 2>blossom into their best selves. You know, whatever they're whatever's

900
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:12.440
<v Speaker 2>motivating that that birthday behavior is their zone of creative genius.

901
00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Talk about the progression in this practice, the fifteen minute method,

902
00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:20.800
<v Speaker 1>where maybe you start out and you give some examples

903
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:23.159
<v Speaker 1>in your book which I think are great, But I

904
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:26.000
<v Speaker 1>got to clean up my garage and you're writing this down,

905
00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:27.679
<v Speaker 1>you're going out as you say, you're kind of sitting

906
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:30.280
<v Speaker 1>there and looking there at the garage and going God.

907
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:34.480
<v Speaker 1>And then you start working on it slowly. When that's

908
00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:39.199
<v Speaker 1>done and achieved, I would imagine there's a level of satisfaction.

909
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:44.239
<v Speaker 1>But how does that help you progress to the next item?

910
00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:47.679
<v Speaker 2>Again, it totally depends on who you are and what

911
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:50.400
<v Speaker 2>your circumstances, and there isn't a right way. I do

912
00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:54.639
<v Speaker 2>have a client who several years ago moved from California

913
00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:57.239
<v Speaker 2>to South Carolina to be with her mother in her

914
00:53:57.280 --> 00:54:00.719
<v Speaker 2>mother's dying years. Eventually her mother did in fact I

915
00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:04.360
<v Speaker 2>and now here she is in this house filled with

916
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:09.239
<v Speaker 2>her mother's stuff. Now she's dealing with her grief and

917
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:10.760
<v Speaker 2>she has to deal with clearing out all this stuff.

918
00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:13.280
<v Speaker 2>So and her own stuff, which is still half of

919
00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:16.599
<v Speaker 2>in boxes from California. So she decides to start with

920
00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:19.519
<v Speaker 2>her mother's office and she's like, Okay, fifteen minutes a day,

921
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:21.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to start going through her papers and

922
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:26.320
<v Speaker 2>we'll just chip away at it. And so she does,

923
00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:28.400
<v Speaker 2>and sure enough, fifteen minutes a day she starts to

924
00:54:28.440 --> 00:54:31.159
<v Speaker 2>make some real progress on what seemed like a mountain

925
00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:34.199
<v Speaker 2>of paper. But again, every day you chip away at

926
00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:38.320
<v Speaker 2>it makes progress. Then she realizes that her mother's record

927
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:41.000
<v Speaker 2>player is in the office, and so she starts to

928
00:54:41.039 --> 00:54:44.039
<v Speaker 2>play albums while she's working, because that's something she and

929
00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:45.760
<v Speaker 2>her mom shared was the real love of music. And

930
00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:47.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, albums are about a side of an album's

931
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:50.440
<v Speaker 2>about twenty two minutes, so you know, she could put

932
00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:54.239
<v Speaker 2>that on do her fifteen twenty minutes of clearing. And

933
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:57.559
<v Speaker 2>then while she was clearing, she found some of her

934
00:54:57.639 --> 00:55:02.599
<v Speaker 2>mom's old stationary, as the beautiful heavyweight cotton stationary that

935
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:04.280
<v Speaker 2>they you know, they don't even make it anymore, you

936
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:08.679
<v Speaker 2>can't buy it. And so she started to write notes

937
00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:11.719
<v Speaker 2>and letters back to her friends in California, back to

938
00:55:11.800 --> 00:55:15.920
<v Speaker 2>her new friends. She just made that note sending a

939
00:55:16.039 --> 00:55:19.480
<v Speaker 2>part of her day. Well, and now she's got to

940
00:55:19.960 --> 00:55:22.239
<v Speaker 2>walk the notes down to the mailbox, which means she's

941
00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:24.599
<v Speaker 2>getting to know the neighbors and their dogs. And their

942
00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:28.519
<v Speaker 2>gardens and the mail carrier. And in this way she

943
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:31.519
<v Speaker 2>starts to sort of habit stack. Right, James Clearer talked

944
00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:35.920
<v Speaker 2>about atomic habits and habit stacking. You know, the fifteen

945
00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:38.840
<v Speaker 2>minutes of clearing leads to music, leads to letter writing,

946
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:40.920
<v Speaker 2>leads to be taking a walk and being out in

947
00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:44.760
<v Speaker 2>the world every day. Like in these little incremental movements

948
00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:47.480
<v Speaker 2>we can see quantum leaps.

949
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<v Speaker 1>So keep at it. And it is on some level

950
00:55:54.639 --> 00:55:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the soul, the higher self or whatever is helping you

951
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:02.960
<v Speaker 1>along with this special time, which is your time, this

952
00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:07.920
<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes a day to get really what you want.

953
00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:11.400
<v Speaker 1>So you can be a child, you can be an adult,

954
00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:16.039
<v Speaker 1>you can be whatever, but you're satisfying these levels of

955
00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:17.920
<v Speaker 1>your soul.

956
00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Right, that's right. And honestly, you know, for some of

957
00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:25.079
<v Speaker 2>you you may just want to set a timer. And

958
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:26.800
<v Speaker 2>even if you end up staring at a blank piece

959
00:56:26.800 --> 00:56:30.880
<v Speaker 2>of paper for fifteen minutes, well, fifteen minutes of enforced

960
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:36.039
<v Speaker 2>boredom never hurt a person. And when was the last

961
00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:38.239
<v Speaker 2>time you spent fifteen minutes staring at paper and not

962
00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:39.280
<v Speaker 2>reaching for your phone.

963
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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take another commercial break to allow our

964
00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:49.480
<v Speaker 1>sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly with

965
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:53.519
<v Speaker 1>my guests today, Sam Bennett, discussing her new book The

966
00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Fifteen Minute Method. We'll get right back to you, we promise.

967
00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:36.360
<v Speaker 1>My guest today is author Sam Bennett, who's written a

968
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:40.719
<v Speaker 1>new book called The Fifteen Minute Method, The Surprisingly Simple

969
00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Art of Getting It Done. And this is a new

970
00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:48.880
<v Speaker 1>way to look at creativity, satisfaction and not the nine

971
00:57:48.920 --> 00:57:51.119
<v Speaker 1>to five existence that most of us have to deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>I love what you just said, enforced boredom.

973
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<v Speaker 2>I am a big stand of enforced member. All those

974
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:01.880
<v Speaker 2>hours and hours and hours in the way back of

975
00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:04.639
<v Speaker 2>the car, like on finally car trips. We used to

976
00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:06.920
<v Speaker 2>drive from Chicago up to Door County, Wisconsin, which.

977
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Is yeah, we took car to as a kid, right,

978
00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:10.039
<v Speaker 1>and we're.

979
00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Going camping and Kettle Moraine or wherever it was, and

980
00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:15.039
<v Speaker 2>we'd make a fort in the way back of the Volvo.

981
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:17.360
<v Speaker 2>I know kids can't do that anymore, but it was fun.

982
00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:20.920
<v Speaker 2>And there were just hours of just staring out the window.

983
00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:25.400
<v Speaker 2>There's no iPad, there was no nothing. There was just staring.

984
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:29.679
<v Speaker 2>And I think it was really good for a person. Yeah,

985
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:33.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't think it's beneficial to be entertained

986
00:58:33.239 --> 00:58:34.400
<v Speaker 2>every moment of every day.

987
00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, that could be a form of meditation too, quiet

988
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:39.960
<v Speaker 1>zoning where you're sitting there looking at blank paper and

989
00:58:40.039 --> 00:58:44.079
<v Speaker 1>going I don't know what I want. I don't know,

990
00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:47.800
<v Speaker 1>And maybe that's that's kind of clearing the dust out

991
00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:50.440
<v Speaker 1>of the machinery.

992
00:58:50.639 --> 00:58:55.639
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely and just be in the not knowing. Get curious. Right.

993
00:58:56.159 --> 00:58:59.679
<v Speaker 2>You also mentioned add and ADHD and all the neurospicies

994
00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:02.079
<v Speaker 2>of it all. And I have to say this time

995
00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:04.519
<v Speaker 2>blocking effect of saying Okay, I'm just going to do

996
00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:09.840
<v Speaker 2>this for fifteen minutes is really RESTful and focusing for

997
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:11.639
<v Speaker 2>the neurospicy mind.

998
00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:15.079
<v Speaker 1>And it's actually why it just shut it.

999
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:17.000
<v Speaker 2>It just allows you to focus and not feel like,

1000
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:18.360
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I'm going to fall down the rabbit

1001
00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:21.159
<v Speaker 2>hole and wake up six hours later, you know, or

1002
00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:25.119
<v Speaker 2>come to come back six hours later. I'll say you.

1003
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<v Speaker 2>I offer a thing for sale. It's called the Daily

1004
00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Practicum and you can see it on my website on

1005
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:32.400
<v Speaker 2>the realsam Bennett dot com and it's a subscription thing.

1006
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:33.079
<v Speaker 3>It's and.

1007
00:59:34.639 --> 00:59:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Every day, every weekday, I should say, every weekday, for

1008
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:41.199
<v Speaker 2>fifteen minutes between twelve and twelve fifteen Eastern we get

1009
00:59:41.239 --> 00:59:43.519
<v Speaker 2>on zoom. We wave at each other. We set the

1010
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:46.119
<v Speaker 2>timer for fifteen minutes. Fifteen minutes later, it goes off,

1011
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:48.920
<v Speaker 2>and I'm here to tell you a gallery full of

1012
00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:53.400
<v Speaker 2>like glowing almost post orgasmic faces look up at me,

1013
00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:56.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, and they say, Sam, Sam, I did it.

1014
00:59:56.960 --> 00:59:59.079
<v Speaker 2>I made that phone call. I've been putting off that

1015
00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:01.639
<v Speaker 2>phone call for weeks and I made that phone call.

1016
01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:05.079
<v Speaker 2>Or Sam, Sem, I did it. I wrote a card

1017
01:00:05.159 --> 01:00:08.519
<v Speaker 2>to my coworker just lost her husband, and I wanted

1018
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:09.840
<v Speaker 2>to say somebody. I don't know what to say, but

1019
01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:11.960
<v Speaker 2>I just I just did it. I just wrote it,

1020
01:00:12.039 --> 01:00:15.239
<v Speaker 2>and it's done, you know. Or again, I just sat

1021
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:17.760
<v Speaker 2>in the garden for fifteen minutes with the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. Yeah, it's amazing. It's also giving permission, isn't it.

1023
01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:26.079
<v Speaker 2>It's permission giving. It's also a thing called parallel play

1024
01:00:26.239 --> 01:00:29.599
<v Speaker 2>or body doubling. You know, as humans were very influenced

1025
01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:31.960
<v Speaker 2>by the group, by the room we're in. Emotions are contagious.

1026
01:00:32.440 --> 01:00:33.920
<v Speaker 2>There's all kinds of studies that you know, if you

1027
01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:36.639
<v Speaker 2>sit next to a high performer, your performance will go up.

1028
01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:41.559
<v Speaker 2>So to know that like, okay, I am in this room,

1029
01:00:41.679 --> 01:00:44.480
<v Speaker 2>this virtual room, this space with all these other people

1030
01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:46.679
<v Speaker 2>who are also putting their heads down and working for

1031
01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:51.039
<v Speaker 2>fifteen minutes. The sort of collective energy of that. And

1032
01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:52.920
<v Speaker 2>it's funny because I've got people who show up every

1033
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:55.360
<v Speaker 2>day for it. I've got people who show up occasionally,

1034
01:00:55.719 --> 01:00:57.679
<v Speaker 2>and then I've got people who never show up in person,

1035
01:00:58.039 --> 01:00:59.840
<v Speaker 2>but the fact that they've paid for it and it's

1036
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:03.079
<v Speaker 2>on their calendar every day means that they do it

1037
01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:04.039
<v Speaker 2>just at a different time.

1038
01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:07.880
<v Speaker 1>That's a really interesting practice to have people show up

1039
01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:11.480
<v Speaker 1>on your on zoom and to be going this is

1040
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<v Speaker 1>what happened with me. Do you go through everybody or

1041
01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:16.159
<v Speaker 1>is it like only those who want to share?

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<v Speaker 2>Just people want to share? They do. I mean, we

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01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:20.840
<v Speaker 2>really don't chitch out very much. It's really just a

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<v Speaker 2>high great job, see you tomorrow, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would be kind of fun. Is just

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<v Speaker 1>sit there quiet for five minutes and little blocks of

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<v Speaker 1>quiet time. I think it's great. Let's talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about some of the challenges. And when I say

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01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:43.920
<v Speaker 1>challenges procrastination. You have a chapter called What Your Excuses

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01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:47.639
<v Speaker 1>Really Mean and that's a big one. Talk a little

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01:01:47.639 --> 01:01:50.480
<v Speaker 1>bit about that chapter because people, I mean people are

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01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:52.440
<v Speaker 1>listening going, look, I just don't have time.

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<v Speaker 2>For this right, right, And if you're living a life

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01:01:55.880 --> 01:01:58.719
<v Speaker 2>in which you cannot claim fifteen minutes for yourself, I

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01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:03.000
<v Speaker 2>think you have a large issue that needs looking at, right,

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01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:07.679
<v Speaker 2>that you deserve to look at. Procrastination is a big

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01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:12.519
<v Speaker 2>word that covers a lot of territory, and I hear

1058
01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:14.480
<v Speaker 2>from people all the time like, oh, I'm such a procrastinator.

1059
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I never get anything done to the last minute, and

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01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:20.039
<v Speaker 2>I always want to say, no, one gets anything done

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<v Speaker 2>to the last minute. That's how we know that it's

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01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:25.960
<v Speaker 2>time to get something done is because it's the last minute. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>what the last minute is for different people. My sister

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01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:29.440
<v Speaker 2>is one of those people who does all her Christmas

1065
01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:32.599
<v Speaker 2>shopping in August. But for her, yeah, but for her,

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01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:36.599
<v Speaker 2>August is the last minute, you know, like her internal

1067
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:40.400
<v Speaker 2>ometer says now is the moment. Other people have different

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01:02:40.559 --> 01:02:43.639
<v Speaker 2>internal ometers and that whole like, Oh, I haven't you

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01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:45.199
<v Speaker 2>know I've got a presentation on Monday. I haven't worked

1070
01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:48.599
<v Speaker 2>done it at all. That's probably not true. You've probably

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01:02:48.639 --> 01:02:50.360
<v Speaker 2>been spinning on it and thinking about it, and by

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01:02:50.400 --> 01:02:52.519
<v Speaker 2>the time you actually sit down to make your slides

1073
01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:55.280
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, you pretty much know what you're gonna do, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So sometimes what we call procrastination is actually fomentation. What

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01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:02.400
<v Speaker 2>we call procrastination is I just don't care about that

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01:03:02.559 --> 01:03:05.400
<v Speaker 2>right now. But there are other things that we tell

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01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:07.440
<v Speaker 2>ourselves over and over again that I really wanted to

1078
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:09.440
<v Speaker 2>sort of pry the lid off of a little bit

1079
01:03:10.320 --> 01:03:13.039
<v Speaker 2>like this, Like when I hear from people, well, I

1080
01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:15.480
<v Speaker 2>don't know, you know, I just don't know. I wanted

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01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:17.719
<v Speaker 2>to I think I maybe, but I just I don't know,

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01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:21.480
<v Speaker 2>And I always want to say all right. That tells

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01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:25.920
<v Speaker 2>me that either you are unwilling to trust your inner

1084
01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:31.360
<v Speaker 2>knowing and or are unwilling to ask someone smarter than you.

1085
01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:38.400
<v Speaker 2>So which of those two do you want? Do you

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01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:39.960
<v Speaker 2>want to just say, okay, you know what, I think

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01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:42.079
<v Speaker 2>I do know, or I think I know enough to

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01:03:42.119 --> 01:03:43.960
<v Speaker 2>make a guess, or I think I know enough to

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01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:48.599
<v Speaker 2>start for fifteen minutes. Or do you want to find

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01:03:48.639 --> 01:03:50.800
<v Speaker 2>somebody with greater authority and ask them what to do?

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01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:53.159
<v Speaker 2>But either way, get out of this. I don't know,

1092
01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know, I don't know, because

1093
01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:56.039
<v Speaker 2>that's not getting you anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you say that this practice is like creative therapy

1095
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:07.840
<v Speaker 1>without without using psychotherapy as a as a bridge or

1096
01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:12.679
<v Speaker 1>even a definition. It's I see it as a way

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01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:20.679
<v Speaker 1>for you to regain your awareness of who you are.

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01:04:21.159 --> 01:04:23.360
<v Speaker 1>And that's a real big problem in America because it's

1099
01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:25.079
<v Speaker 1>like nine to five. I gotta be like the Jones is,

1100
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I gotta I gotta buy what he's got. We got

1101
01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:29.239
<v Speaker 1>to have a bigger house, we gotta have a bigger car.

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01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:35.159
<v Speaker 1>And that's just crap. Yes, but our society is still

1103
01:04:35.239 --> 01:04:36.440
<v Speaker 1>functioning on that level.

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01:04:38.199 --> 01:04:42.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but again, we get to make choices and we

1105
01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:45.679
<v Speaker 2>get to you know, we can't control much of what's

1106
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:50.960
<v Speaker 2>going on out there, but we can control at least

1107
01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:54.519
<v Speaker 2>some of our own time. We can control our own attention.

1108
01:04:55.039 --> 01:04:59.920
<v Speaker 2>We can reclaim our own peace and our own curiosity.

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01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:03.559
<v Speaker 2>You know, I can't tell you that this is gonna,

1110
01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:08.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, magically cure you. But I do get a

1111
01:05:08.519 --> 01:05:12.639
<v Speaker 2>lot of emails. I had one guy who wrote to me.

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01:05:13.639 --> 01:05:16.880
<v Speaker 2>It was so great. He said he got his my

1113
01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:21.079
<v Speaker 2>book on audible. He got the audiobook version for free

1114
01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:22.800
<v Speaker 2>somewhere I don't know where, but you got it for free.

1115
01:05:23.559 --> 01:05:25.159
<v Speaker 2>And I do the narration of the book. So if

1116
01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:27.880
<v Speaker 2>you like audiobooks, yeah, oh it's super fun. You know,

1117
01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:29.239
<v Speaker 2>I was an actor, so it's you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, it makes sense. Yeah, yeah, inflection and laugh and

1119
01:05:33.159 --> 01:05:33.639
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. I wouldn't to let somebody else be my voice.

1121
01:05:36.519 --> 01:05:39.800
<v Speaker 2>So and I love doing voice work, I really do. So.

1122
01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:43.960
<v Speaker 2>So he got it on the audio version and he said,

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01:05:44.039 --> 01:05:48.079
<v Speaker 2>he's from Philadelphia, so he's a natural born hater. I'm

1124
01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:50.000
<v Speaker 2>sure enough. You listened to the first part of it,

1125
01:05:50.039 --> 01:05:51.039
<v Speaker 2>and he was like, yeah, I don't care for this,

1126
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:54.840
<v Speaker 2>this isn't for me. But then he said something sort

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01:05:54.880 --> 01:05:56.440
<v Speaker 2>of kept tapping him on the shoulder about it. So

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01:05:56.519 --> 01:05:58.800
<v Speaker 2>he went back and listened to it, and now he's

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01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:00.599
<v Speaker 2>just finished listening to it for the third time through

1130
01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:06.559
<v Speaker 2>straight and he started making some very small changes in

1131
01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:10.760
<v Speaker 2>his own life and seeing some results from those changes,

1132
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:17.199
<v Speaker 2>seeing some results from his fifteen minutes's and finally he

1133
01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:20.280
<v Speaker 2>found himself with the courage to quit the job that

1134
01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:26.320
<v Speaker 2>he had been trying to quit for nine years. He said,

1135
01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:30.079
<v Speaker 2>he walked into his boss's office. Oh, ps, his boss

1136
01:06:30.199 --> 01:06:33.159
<v Speaker 2>is also his dad, which is one of the reasons

1137
01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:35.440
<v Speaker 2>why it was hard to quit, because it's the family business.

1138
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:38.159
<v Speaker 2>So he walks into his dad's office. They're discussing the

1139
01:06:38.519 --> 01:06:43.519
<v Speaker 2>summer vacation schedule. And the guy says he just took

1140
01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:46.639
<v Speaker 2>a deep breath and said, right, and then after this

1141
01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:52.000
<v Speaker 2>date and you know, August, I won't be back. And

1142
01:06:52.159 --> 01:06:58.800
<v Speaker 2>his dad said, okay, m this thing that works in

1143
01:06:58.960 --> 01:07:01.960
<v Speaker 2>putting off been dreading thought was going to be a

1144
01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:08.920
<v Speaker 2>super drama. It was almost a non event. And he's

1145
01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:12.079
<v Speaker 2>so happy. He's got his next gig lined up, like

1146
01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:13.920
<v Speaker 2>he's trying new things. He's like, I don't know if

1147
01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:18.320
<v Speaker 2>it's going to work or not. But ten years of

1148
01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:21.679
<v Speaker 2>chains fell off of his body.

1149
01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:30.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's probably a completely new person after one year.

1150
01:07:31.079 --> 01:07:32.840
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to hear what happens next.

1151
01:07:33.199 --> 01:07:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's amazing. Who is this book for? Is this

1152
01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:45.360
<v Speaker 1>book for people who are in crisis? Creative crisis? Are they?

1153
01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Is this for somebody who is like I need to

1154
01:07:49.719 --> 01:07:51.760
<v Speaker 1>I realized I just had this birthday. Of course, we

1155
01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:54.960
<v Speaker 1>hate our birthdays. You just talked about that. I just

1156
01:07:55.039 --> 01:07:59.519
<v Speaker 1>had a birthday and I just am not in a

1157
01:07:59.559 --> 01:08:03.800
<v Speaker 1>space I want to be talk about where this book?

1158
01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Who this is for?

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01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:10.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean it's as you say, it's an easy read.

1160
01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:14.039
<v Speaker 2>It's short chapters, it's very conversational. Yeah, there's parts of

1161
01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:17.840
<v Speaker 2>it that I think are quite funny. There's parts of

1162
01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:20.960
<v Speaker 2>it that are pretty amusing. There's little exercises and thoughts.

1163
01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:24.239
<v Speaker 2>But it's not very wu right, It's not like super spiritual.

1164
01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:26.880
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't ask you to believe anything or take any

1165
01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:29.760
<v Speaker 2>big leaps of faith. It's a very practical book. Yeah,

1166
01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:31.960
<v Speaker 2>So I like to think that that widens its appeal.

1167
01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:35.800
<v Speaker 2>So I think this book is for you. If you

1168
01:08:36.720 --> 01:08:38.800
<v Speaker 2>have things that you know you want to do that

1169
01:08:38.920 --> 01:08:41.159
<v Speaker 2>you are not getting to. I think that would be

1170
01:08:41.239 --> 01:08:45.079
<v Speaker 2>the first thing. If you are tired of talking about

1171
01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:48.239
<v Speaker 2>how busy and overwhelmed you are, yes, and you would

1172
01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:51.199
<v Speaker 2>like to replace that vocabulary with something more like rested

1173
01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:57.359
<v Speaker 2>and fulfilled instead of busy and overwhelmed. I think if

1174
01:08:57.439 --> 01:09:00.800
<v Speaker 2>you're just curious about yourself, I think this little fifteen

1175
01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:05.600
<v Speaker 2>minute tool is an incredible key that opens a big

1176
01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:12.359
<v Speaker 2>door to the infinite uniqueness of you. You each of

1177
01:09:12.439 --> 01:09:16.880
<v Speaker 2>you are incredibly fascinating, and you've doubled yourself a bit.

1178
01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:21.399
<v Speaker 2>You know, you've you've let yourself stop noticing how amazing

1179
01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:26.520
<v Speaker 2>you are. And I think shining that fifteen minute light

1180
01:09:26.640 --> 01:09:31.880
<v Speaker 2>back on yourself, I think it does have a real

1181
01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:35.640
<v Speaker 2>therapeutic effect. Sometimes. I think one of the great effects

1182
01:09:35.680 --> 01:09:38.279
<v Speaker 2>of therapy is just claiming that time, saying that's right,

1183
01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:40.640
<v Speaker 2>this hour a week is for me, pot on me.

1184
01:09:41.079 --> 01:09:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about me and my issues about me. Yeah,

1185
01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:48.000
<v Speaker 2>and that just that gesture is really powerful. And I

1186
01:09:48.079 --> 01:09:49.840
<v Speaker 2>think the same thing. I think taking fifteen minutes to

1187
01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:51.840
<v Speaker 2>day and saying, you know what this time is for me?

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01:09:52.920 --> 01:09:54.600
<v Speaker 1>And when I ask you a question, you brought up

1189
01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:57.680
<v Speaker 1>something at the very beginning. I'm in the middle of writing.

1190
01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:00.399
<v Speaker 1>I have two books I'm supposed to be writing, and

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01:10:00.560 --> 01:10:02.720
<v Speaker 1>if I was to do fifteen minutes, that would be

1192
01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:07.560
<v Speaker 1>nearly enough. But once you get going, is it is

1193
01:10:07.640 --> 01:10:11.439
<v Speaker 1>it okay to keep going after the fifteen minutes is

1194
01:10:11.479 --> 01:10:13.359
<v Speaker 1>over and get into an hour or more or.

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01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:17.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh of course, right, Mihaim chummy heyes, always talked about flow, right,

1196
01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:19.319
<v Speaker 2>and when we get into that flow state, that's like

1197
01:10:19.479 --> 01:10:22.760
<v Speaker 2>the highest best possible state to be in, when we're

1198
01:10:22.880 --> 01:10:25.399
<v Speaker 2>just when it's just flowing and it's just happening. And

1199
01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:27.880
<v Speaker 2>absolutely you said sometimes you sit down for fifteen minutes

1200
01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:30.239
<v Speaker 2>and get up four hours later. It's amazing. We love

1201
01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:32.319
<v Speaker 2>it when that happens. If you have the time freedom

1202
01:10:32.359 --> 01:10:33.199
<v Speaker 2>to do that, obviously.

1203
01:10:33.479 --> 01:10:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1204
01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Other times, you know, it's a slog. You're sitting there

1205
01:10:36.760 --> 01:10:39.840
<v Speaker 2>for fifteen minutes and the you know, fourteen minutes and

1206
01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:43.399
<v Speaker 2>fifty nine seconds, you're like and we're not like, You're like,

1207
01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:46.239
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you I wrote my whole first book. This

1208
01:10:46.359 --> 01:10:51.159
<v Speaker 2>way I get it done. My first book, I I

1209
01:10:51.239 --> 01:10:53.159
<v Speaker 2>couldn't decide goes this is it right? I needed it

1210
01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:55.319
<v Speaker 2>to be perfect inside of my mind before I even started.

1211
01:10:55.880 --> 01:10:58.600
<v Speaker 2>So I was trying to figure out, like, well, should

1212
01:10:58.600 --> 01:10:59.920
<v Speaker 2>it be a work book, should it be like one

1213
01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:03.039
<v Speaker 2>person's journey through this material? Should it be an allegory?

1214
01:11:03.239 --> 01:11:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Like how should I do it? And finally I thought, Samantha,

1215
01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:09.800
<v Speaker 2>let the book tell you right, Let the garage tell you.

1216
01:11:10.159 --> 01:11:12.119
<v Speaker 2>Let the book tell you right. I have a conversation.

1217
01:11:12.600 --> 01:11:14.840
<v Speaker 2>So I started carry around index cards, and anytime I

1218
01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:16.600
<v Speaker 2>thought of something that I thought should be on the book,

1219
01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:18.039
<v Speaker 2>I would write it down on an index card.

1220
01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1221
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:20.399
<v Speaker 2>And then I had a Manila envelope on my desk

1222
01:11:20.520 --> 01:11:22.560
<v Speaker 2>labeled genius. That's at the end of the day, I

1223
01:11:22.560 --> 01:11:25.079
<v Speaker 2>would just drop the index cards in there, and after

1224
01:11:25.119 --> 01:11:26.960
<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks, I'd dump them all out onto

1225
01:11:27.039 --> 01:11:29.199
<v Speaker 2>the big dining room table. And just started to clump

1226
01:11:29.239 --> 01:11:30.840
<v Speaker 2>them up. I was like, Oh, here's all the stuff

1227
01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:33.479
<v Speaker 2>on perfectionism, and here's all the stuff on procrastination, and

1228
01:11:33.560 --> 01:11:37.600
<v Speaker 2>here's the stuff on marketing when you're a sensitive, creative person.

1229
01:11:37.680 --> 01:11:39.840
<v Speaker 2>And here like, oh wow, I wrote this twice, apparently

1230
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:41.199
<v Speaker 2>I really think that maybe this should like maybe I

1231
01:11:41.199 --> 01:11:44.039
<v Speaker 2>should start with this because I think this is really important, right,

1232
01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:46.720
<v Speaker 2>and I just and then when I was writing, oftentimes

1233
01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:49.439
<v Speaker 2>I would just reach my hand into the thing, pull

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01:11:49.479 --> 01:11:51.000
<v Speaker 2>it in the index card and be like, Okay, that's

1235
01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:51.760
<v Speaker 2>what I'm writing today.

1236
01:11:53.039 --> 01:11:53.399
<v Speaker 3>Ha ha.

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01:11:54.359 --> 01:11:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were going to say, I pull out

1238
01:11:56.359 --> 01:11:59.000
<v Speaker 1>a card and it was like, this is a chapter,

1239
01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:01.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is the Yeah.

1240
01:12:01.399 --> 01:12:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes sometimes it was the source of a chapter. Sometimes

1241
01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:06.079
<v Speaker 2>it was just a couple of lines. Sometimes it was

1242
01:12:06.119 --> 01:12:08.039
<v Speaker 2>a story that I wanted to make sure I included somewhere.

1243
01:12:09.239 --> 01:12:14.600
<v Speaker 2>But it, you know, it allowed a little I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>fortune telling, magic eight ball experience to it, and again

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<v Speaker 2>allowed me to chunk it out. Because the quickest way

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<v Speaker 2>to do nothing is to get overwhelmed and quit.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's going to and that's also going to

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<v Speaker 1>lead to procrastination.

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<v Speaker 2>So and you know, people keep asking me like, Sam,

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<v Speaker 2>can I really change my life in fifteen minutes a day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you already are.

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<v Speaker 1>But the people that are unaware, that's the problem, Sam,

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<v Speaker 1>is people are not aware. And I think when they

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<v Speaker 1>see the accomplishments and perhaps maybe a subtle satisfaction like hey, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I just did that, Yeah, that's probably the beginning, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. I've got people who've won grants. I've got people

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<v Speaker 2>who've I've got three books published at least, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>not mine, people in my community who just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because the other thing that happens, of course, is the

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<v Speaker 2>body is a pleasure seeking mechanism. So once you start

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<v Speaker 2>doing this and you start seeing results and it starts

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<v Speaker 2>feeling really good, you don't need to be motivated to

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<v Speaker 2>do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll want to do it. You know, you can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to endorphins.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the endorphins, whether it's you know, singing or dancing

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<v Speaker 2>in the kitchen, or playing an instrument or picking up

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<v Speaker 2>something that you used to do that you loved. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many ways for you to bring more joy

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<v Speaker 2>and light into your life without spending a fortune. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>without you may end up having a divorce your spouse,

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<v Speaker 2>You may end up having to move to an upstate.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you where your life is leading, but

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you that these little micro movements, like

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<v Speaker 2>my friend Sark says, micro movements have a profound and

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<v Speaker 2>exponential effect and again make you more the person that

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<v Speaker 2>we already love.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, and I use this term lightly, but

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<v Speaker 1>being your authentic self, yeah, is what you're aspiring you.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your readers to accomplish? She's like, don't be

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else, discover yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's wonderful, wonderful. The book is the fifteen minute method,

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<v Speaker 1>the surprisingly simple art of getting it done. And my

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<v Speaker 1>guest today has been Sam Bennett. Sam, this has been

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<v Speaker 1>really fun. How can people get a hold of you?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your website?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can find me at the real Sam Bennett

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. Okay, the real saying. You know, my team

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<v Speaker 2>keeps threatening to make the fake Sam Bennett dot which,

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<v Speaker 2>of course would be me just being like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there was scotch and cigarette. Don't do it, nobody cares.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do anything. Nobody cares. But no, find me at

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<v Speaker 2>the real Sam Bennet dot com. I'm also on all

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<v Speaker 2>the socials as the real Sam Bennett dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Facebook, Instagram, she's on Twitter, she's on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>Really love TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fun. Wow. YouTube and LinkedIn So you give lectures.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess read someplace on LinkedIn they have what is

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<v Speaker 1>that is that LinkedIn's old lecture series.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have a program called LinkedIn Learning. It started

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<v Speaker 2>out as Linda dot com. You might remember Linda dot

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<v Speaker 2>com from They were one of the first online learning platforms,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they got bought by LinkedIn, and then LinkedIn

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<v Speaker 2>got bought by Microsoft. So now LinkedIn Learning is a

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<v Speaker 2>massive online learning platform and I have over a million

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<v Speaker 2>course participants on LinkedIn, people from all over the world.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my trainings and send me emails. It's wonderful. So

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<v Speaker 2>y'all go over to the realsambannet dot com and hop

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<v Speaker 2>in on whatever the opt in is, the little freebie,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you'll be on my email list, which is

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<v Speaker 2>really how I sort of communicate because I am on

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<v Speaker 2>all these socials, but I don't always remember to say

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm doing or that I'm selling something or that

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01:15:58.680 --> 01:16:01.199
<v Speaker 2>something's for sale or whatever. But also you can write

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<v Speaker 2>to me and tell me about your fifteen minute experience

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01:16:03.520 --> 01:16:05.760
<v Speaker 2>and your projects, and we can be pen pals and

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<v Speaker 2>best friends. It'll be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think your next book should be the results

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<v Speaker 1>of using the fifteen minute method. Oh that's a great

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<v Speaker 1>adaptors in chapters and chapters anyhow, Yes, Sam Bennett, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a pleasure, wonderful book and much success. This just

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<v Speaker 1>came out. For those of you listening. She actually has

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<v Speaker 1>an audible and you know what I say about audible.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't have time to read, listen, it's fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>the fifteen minute method. Hey, much success.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Cliff, thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for being here, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great to have Sam on the program. I really

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<v Speaker 1>want to emphasize that this type of fifteen minute method

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<v Speaker 1>is really downsizing the old school way of having to

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<v Speaker 1>journal and meditate and process. You are not getting what

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<v Speaker 1>you want. And this is what's so nice about these

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<v Speaker 1>new authors who are distilling these decades of repetitious practice, meditation, journaling,

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<v Speaker 1>not knowing what's going on. Fifteen minutes a day means

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<v Speaker 1>that you sit down with a piece of paper or

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<v Speaker 1>you perhaps have a notepad, and you're just processing. You're

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<v Speaker 1>either writing, you are taking time to meditate whatever. And

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<v Speaker 1>I really like the process in this book, so and

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<v Speaker 1>it's wonderful. Sam did the narration for the audible version,

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<v Speaker 1>a fifteen minute method. The book just came out. It's

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<v Speaker 1>only been out for about a month, so Audible or

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01:17:48.159 --> 01:17:51.399
<v Speaker 1>go to Amazon or wherever you get your books to

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<v Speaker 1>see if you can find it. I think I just

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<v Speaker 1>saw it on Yeah, it's on Amazon right now, so

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01:17:56.800 --> 01:18:00.760
<v Speaker 1>you can get it right now. The surprisingly simple art

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01:18:00.840 --> 01:18:06.199
<v Speaker 1>of getting it done wow. Really fun. Hey, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that's it for this program. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>thank my guest today, Sam Bennett, coming to us from

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<v Speaker 1>Connecticut and her new book, The Fifteen Minute Method. As always,

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<v Speaker 1>the team of Gail tor Mark Foster and everyone who

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<v Speaker 1>makes this thing happen. I really appreciate it. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>take care, be well, and we will talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>next time.

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<v Speaker 3>Shelling and piclors shellings I have had it, had shellings.

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<v Speaker 1>And its calorous shellings.

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<v Speaker 2>I have had piclorasion. I had it.

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<v Speaker 3>Sells in Methodical Lasion a
