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<v Speaker 1>Weird way.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, everybody to HP hates me. Now listen, full

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<v Speaker 2>confession here, everybody. We started this show and the idea

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<v Speaker 2>behind it. As you know, so far, it's HP picking

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<v Speaker 2>television or movies that were going to make me angry

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<v Speaker 2>or make my brain shatter into pieces. And so far

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<v Speaker 2>he's done a really good job. This time he did

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<v Speaker 2>too fucking good a job. And I'm not even talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the movie we're talking about today. I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the movie he presented initially, which was The Apple. Now, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>have you seen The Apple nineteen eighty I have? Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I know you have, and you know I have. Now, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have not seen The Apple, why don't you

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<v Speaker 2>take this moment to go to YouTube and type into

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<v Speaker 2>the Apple trailer, watch the trailer, and then come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Now here's the thing, Welcome back. Here, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But you think that movie looks awesome, like you can't

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<v Speaker 2>believe it, you can't believe that it exists. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>what like ninety minutes to two hours of it. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, it's going to be fantastic. It's not. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a nightmare. It's a slog. I thought it was camp

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<v Speaker 2>being fun when I saw the trailer too, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I watched the movie and I went, yeah, that is

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<v Speaker 2>really bad. And then I watched it again, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I showed it to friends because this is a movie

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<v Speaker 2>that you pass around. You can't believe this movie. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>likes this movie. So HB was trying to make me

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<v Speaker 2>watch this movie again, and I put my foot down

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<v Speaker 2>and instead, And I feel guilty actually about it, but

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<v Speaker 2>I could not spend another two hours watching bim time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you've got mister tops.

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<v Speaker 3>You really did put your foot down, and it surprised

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<v Speaker 3>me how forceful that you rejected this first choice. And

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<v Speaker 3>maybe we'll get back to it at some other later date.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably not, but I.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate it so much. I joke every episode like, yeah, yep,

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<v Speaker 2>this is HB hates me, all right, ha ha ha. No,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he actually does. You would have, actually, if you

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<v Speaker 2>had made me watch that movie.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not for everybody. I'll give you that.

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<v Speaker 3>I like it for a variety of reasons, maybe not

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<v Speaker 3>specifically because.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all irony. You like everything about it ironically. Come on, man,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the problem with our generation Gen xers. You

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<v Speaker 2>understand what I'm saying. We just we don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>marinate in the irony all the time. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>can just enjoy something as it is, or we can

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<v Speaker 2>say that's garbage, don't watch that.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, there's many reasons why I can't consider myself a

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<v Speaker 3>fan of the Apple. But we don't have to go

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<v Speaker 3>into that year. What we do have to go into

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<v Speaker 3>is the ultimate choice of movie that I picked, that

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<v Speaker 3>you agreed to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, indeed, what is the movie. It's the Father Malone

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<v Speaker 2>movie FM.

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<v Speaker 5>It's that time again, Dugan. In three minutes, I'm gone

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<v Speaker 5>and this place belongs to you, so move it, baby.

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<v Speaker 6>It started with the Crystal age, it moved to the

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<v Speaker 6>Golden Age.

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<v Speaker 7>And now welcome to the solid platinum age. Good morning,

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<v Speaker 7>Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 8>It's great to be a winner, and aren't we all?

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<v Speaker 7>And this is f M the motion picture that takes

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<v Speaker 7>you inside your radio.

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<v Speaker 3>His mother on ju Ski FM, Los Angeles, Eric Eric Swan.

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<v Speaker 6>What it is is this with the.

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<v Speaker 7>Number two station and the second largest market in the

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<v Speaker 7>United States, and we're not making any money for those

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<v Speaker 7>of you who never knew, for those of you who've

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<v Speaker 7>never forgotten, for those of you really don't give it.

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<v Speaker 6>The competition might be putting on the Ronstick concert, but

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<v Speaker 6>Kiskuy is gonna steal it and Eric live.

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<v Speaker 1>On FM f M.

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<v Speaker 7>Even if the story isn't completely true, it's only because

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<v Speaker 7>you wouldn't believe what really happens.

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<v Speaker 6>We got the best dance station there is.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not the point.

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<v Speaker 2>What do they care about our audience?

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<v Speaker 7>What do they care about music?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, they care about money. The entire staff of q

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<v Speaker 5>SKY Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>They're now going on.

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<v Speaker 7>FM featuring the music of America's hottest rock stars, with

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<v Speaker 7>special concert appearances by Linda Ronstatt and Jimmy Buffett.

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<v Speaker 6>Are you listening to c Sky my Little Darleans?

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<v Speaker 8>FM coming at you soon at the speed of sound.

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<v Speaker 2>I see FM on the dial. Now I think follow

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<v Speaker 2>them alone?

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<v Speaker 3>So FM Father Alone for your edification listeners. It is

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<v Speaker 3>from nineteen seventy eight. It was directed by John A.

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<v Speaker 2>Alonso, fantastic cinematographer, a fucking beast of a cinematographer.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It was written by Ezra Sex and it's excellent writer.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually excellent writer. Later on wrote two of my other

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<v Speaker 2>favorite movies. If there was a version of Father Malone

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<v Speaker 2>Hates You, I would make you watch his second feature,

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<v Speaker 2>A Small Circle of friends.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, that's not the one with Mini Driver, is it. No,

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<v Speaker 4>that's came later.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's the movie with young Shelley Long.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm looking at the cast list, Karen Allen. Isn't it, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>Shelley Loan, I know that's not the same Davis, Brad Davis, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>from Night Whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a sixties college campus drama where they take everything

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<v Speaker 2>way too seriously, and then Brad Davis's character eventually joined.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't join the Weather Underground, but there's a version

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<v Speaker 2>of the Weather Underground where he tries to go talk

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<v Speaker 2>somebody out of it and gets bombed.

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<v Speaker 3>Among the stars of this picture Michael Brandon, Aileen Brennan.

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<v Speaker 4>We love Eileen Brennan.

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<v Speaker 2>My fast so wonderful.

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<v Speaker 3>She's fantastic and she's really brilliant in this. Martin mull

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<v Speaker 3>a precursor to them doing Clue together.

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<v Speaker 2>In a few years, as he did, he not look

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<v Speaker 2>his best in this movie.

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<v Speaker 4>He is.

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<v Speaker 3>He's so impossibly young in this. I think I did

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<v Speaker 3>the math. I think he's like thirty five.

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<v Speaker 2>The way he's manecured, the way he's tailored, the way

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<v Speaker 2>he's styled, he's this is the most attractive i've ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen Martin maull. I thought he was a good looking

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<v Speaker 2>dude in this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes sense because his character, which we'll talk about,

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<v Speaker 3>is supposed to be a really really smooth talking, kind

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<v Speaker 3>of new agey honk of a DJ and I think

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<v Speaker 3>he fills that role really well.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the ladies man in this one.

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<v Speaker 4>He's the ladies man.

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<v Speaker 5>Sign up.

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<v Speaker 3>We also have Alex Carris, who most people might know

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<v Speaker 3>from Webster from.

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<v Speaker 2>The Sporting World. He's a sportsperson.

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<v Speaker 3>He was the defensive tackle for the Lions from nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>fifty eight to nineteen seventy one. Father Malone, and oddly enough,

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<v Speaker 3>in this movie he's in. Honestly, he's only in this

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<v Speaker 3>movie for maybe six minutes. He has third billing. He's

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<v Speaker 3>third build.

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<v Speaker 4>On this movie, ahead of Eileen Brennan and Clevonne Libbel.

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<v Speaker 4>Father Malone. Isn't that crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>How did that happen?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was crazy too till I did the math.

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<v Speaker 3>He actually, by this point he had actually done quite

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<v Speaker 3>a number of TV shows and movies. He had done

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<v Speaker 3>Blazing Saddles, Gone Little, he was into the odd couple

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<v Speaker 3>few episodes he was in Mash So it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 3>he was just this jock fresh off the football field.

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<v Speaker 3>He had some experience under his belt, so I'll give

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<v Speaker 3>him a pass there.

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<v Speaker 4>Who else is in this? Norman Lloyd is in this?

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<v Speaker 3>James Keach, Stacy Keach's brother, who I think isn't James

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<v Speaker 3>Keach the one who's in Wildcats?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I love him in Wildcats, also written by Ezra Sachs.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I brought it up. So this movie again

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<v Speaker 3>from nineteen seventy eight. It concerns a radio station in

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<v Speaker 3>La called q sky FM.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a movie.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a radio station that can only exist in the movies.

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<v Speaker 3>It's populated by a lot of really interesting and quirky

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<v Speaker 3>and fun DJs among the Martin.

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<v Speaker 2>Mall based on a real station in La though KMAT.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fair, that's fair. It's there's a lot of versimilitude

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<v Speaker 3>to this movie. We'll talk about, which I really one

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<v Speaker 3>of the big selling points of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But what the name of the guy? The guy who

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<v Speaker 2>ran km E T, who is the basis for the

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<v Speaker 2>lead character in this is also the basis for the

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<v Speaker 2>lead character on WKRP in Cincinnati. They're both based on KMET.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you mentioned w krap because one one of

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<v Speaker 3>the things that has been a legend about this ever

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<v Speaker 3>since this movie and WKRP is a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>believe WKRP was made based off of this, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Days After American Graffiti.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, But the fact is the pilot for WKRP was

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<v Speaker 3>already well underway. This movie in no way inspired WKRP

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<v Speaker 3>in Cincinnati, even though that was what I thought coming

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<v Speaker 3>into it initially. It's just another movie about a wacky

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<v Speaker 4>That's what we have here.

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<v Speaker 3>So q SKYFM is the new number one radio station

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<v Speaker 3>in LA. The corporation that owns q sky build the

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<v Speaker 3>Billings Corporation. They send a sales manager oute to effectively

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<v Speaker 3>sell more commercial time on the radio station, and this

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<v Speaker 3>becomes a bit of a conflict between the station manager,

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<v Speaker 3>this guy Jeff Dugan in the movie, and the forces

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<v Speaker 3>of commerce because he wants this sound to be pure

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<v Speaker 3>and he doesn't want it to be watered down by

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<v Speaker 3>all these ads. The Army is wanting to put all

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<v Speaker 3>these ads on the radio station. So part of the movie,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's a lot of moving pieces to this picture,

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<v Speaker 3>probably more than there should be, but effectively, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the main sort of plot threads of this movie is

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<v Speaker 3>how are they going to balance the purity of the

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<v Speaker 3>radio station and the music with the commerce that the

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<v Speaker 3>corporation wants to bring to this radio station. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the characters says, what good is a popular

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<v Speaker 3>radio station if you can't sell it? So that's, in

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<v Speaker 3>a nutshell, that's the plot of this movie. But there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of other things we'll get into.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the snobs versus the slobs.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's those movies have been around for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this actually is would probably be one of

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<v Speaker 3>the earliest. The earliest one I can think of in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of slobs versus snobs is Meatballs, and this came

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<v Speaker 3>before Meatballs, so maybe this lays claim to being one.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the first.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing of it is, though the radio station itself,

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<v Speaker 3>these aren't slobs per se. This isn't a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>na'er do well DJs and other people working for the

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<v Speaker 3>radio station. These they make it very clear that all

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<v Speaker 3>of these people that work for the radio station, including

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<v Speaker 3>the technician and the assistance and everything, they're all at

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<v Speaker 3>the top of their game. These DJs are the best

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<v Speaker 3>of the best. They don't get any better or smoother

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<v Speaker 3>she's very She's got the velvety, smooth voice. She's the DJ,

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<v Speaker 3>she's very smoky. She's the DJ at night, so she's always.

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<v Speaker 3>Nowadays who listens to radio, like actual terrestrial radio. But

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<v Speaker 3>this was King back then, and DJs weren't just jocks

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<v Speaker 3>who would just put play on a record and then

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<v Speaker 3>but this was really you. A lot of people listened

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<v Speaker 3>they love the music that they would play, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>what we're dealing with here. There's Mother, Eileen Brennan. Clevond

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<v Speaker 2>Whose Prince over Darkness.

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<v Speaker 3>The Prince of Darkness, who's also very smooth and sexy

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<v Speaker 3>and really very very smooth DJ.

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<v Speaker 4>They're all smooth.

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<v Speaker 3>Martin maull As I already said, is Eric Swan, who's

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody think about the character named Swan that you don't like.

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<v Speaker 3>No, actually, if we're talking about Phantom of the Paradise,

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<v Speaker 3>certainly not or the Warriors or the Warriors Swan Michael Beck,

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<v Speaker 3>there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, we forgot to mention on our fucking

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<v Speaker 2>Predator podcast and the Predator podcast, the fact that there's

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking high school. The school is Lawrence Gordon Public School,

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<v Speaker 2>home of the Warriors. Lawrence Gordon produced the original Predator

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<v Speaker 2>and the Warriors.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, folks who are all here to listen to us

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's great stuff. I wish we had thought of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Alex Carris rounds it out. He's not in it much.

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<v Speaker 3>He's he plays the country Djay DJ dot Holiday, who

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<v Speaker 3>is effectively he's not getting the ratings that the other

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they fire him pretty unceremoniously.

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<v Speaker 4>They do.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's actually I think it's meant to give a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of shading to the Jeff Dougan character because

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<v Speaker 3>for the most part he's he leads the.

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<v Speaker 2>Radio station and guy in the fucking world HP is.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you know that? He fucking rolls out of bed,

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<v Speaker 2>He fucking smokes a joint, fucking housles his hair, He

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<v Speaker 2>calls the station, what I gotta be there in three minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>No problem. I will drive so fucking dangerously down Sunset

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<v Speaker 2>Boulevard that it will make people viewing the movie fifty

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<v Speaker 2>fucking years later terrifyed.

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<v Speaker 3>And he has the look of a young Michael McDonald.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got this bitch and beard, he's got the hair.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody loves him all He's got a lot of women

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<v Speaker 3>mooning over him too. But he's so charismatic. Everybody in

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<v Speaker 3>the movie loves this guy. They love working for him.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll do anything for Jeff Dugan.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Culty, like I said before, but it works. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>vibe of this really coming into it is. I guess

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<v Speaker 3>it could be a hit or miss thing, But for me,

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<v Speaker 3>I love this idea that there's this disparate family of

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<v Speaker 3>characters that work at this radio station, and they all

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<v Speaker 3>are very they're all very good at what they do,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're all have this common goal of making the

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<v Speaker 3>radio station number.

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<v Speaker 4>One, and they all have.

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<v Speaker 3>Their quirks and their little their own personal plot threads

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<v Speaker 3>that you follow. But overall, this is, hey, let's put

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<v Speaker 3>on a show, let's do this, let's it's really the

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<v Speaker 3>vibe of it, I think is what really captured me

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<v Speaker 3>first when I watch this. But then you have the

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<v Speaker 3>music is Awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>List before we get there. Yeah, let's talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>vibe in the station. Everyone hates their job and they

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<v Speaker 2>all want to.

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<v Speaker 4>Leave at the radio station.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you talking about? Everyone doesn't want to be there.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's just they all seem like at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>their rope. Mother in particular, they all just seem fuck

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<v Speaker 2>this place.

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<v Speaker 4>You're wrong, You're wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Mother is the only one who is actively and they

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<v Speaker 3>really play it up. She Aleen Brennan is awesome. We

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<v Speaker 3>know this her thing. She even says that she's been

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<v Speaker 3>doing this for a long time. She's at the top

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<v Speaker 3>of her game, but she still feels like she's missing something.

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<v Speaker 3>She wants to quit while she still has the ability

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<v Speaker 3>to try and figure out if there's something else in

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<v Speaker 3>life that she wants. She's the only one who is

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<v Speaker 3>it has we about being a DJ, and she's getting

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<v Speaker 3>like these these kind of Masher calls if I can

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<v Speaker 3>say people calling who are obsessed with her heavy breathing

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<v Speaker 3>calls things like that, she just can't take it anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Eric Swan is looking to make his next big career move,

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<v Speaker 3>and he in fact auditions for a game show host gig.

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<v Speaker 3>He it's not as if he doesn't enjoy being a DJ.

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<v Speaker 3>He just he wants the glitz and the glamour of Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 2>He wants to be elsewhere. He doesn't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>there anymore. He wants to be at a higher plane

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<v Speaker 2>of entertainment existence.

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<v Speaker 4>He's looking for a stepping stone.

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<v Speaker 2>That's two of our several people, what three four DJs

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<v Speaker 2>who want to leave. Doc Holliday will be leaving Forcibly.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he doesn't count.

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<v Speaker 2>So what we're left with is the where or left

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<v Speaker 2>is this prince of darkness who seems perfectly at ease

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<v Speaker 2>where he is. He's totally cool. Yeah, he's got a

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<v Speaker 2>great he's got a great lot. He complains about working

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<v Speaker 2>that twelve to six shift, but that's the best shift,

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<v Speaker 2>come on. And so we're left with him, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>left with the fucking in the tech who wants to

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<v Speaker 2>be on the air.

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<v Speaker 4>No, hey, when you listen to my tape. Here's my tape,

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<v Speaker 4>Oh everybody?

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<v Speaker 3>But what I love about that? That that sort of

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<v Speaker 3>arc for that Number one. He is painted as the

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<v Speaker 3>best technician there is because at one point the cart

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<v Speaker 3>machine goes bluey and he says, look, Dugan, if you

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<v Speaker 3>just let me make my own tip tape decks, they'd

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<v Speaker 3>be better than any of this kaka you could find.

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<v Speaker 4>So he is the best at what he does.

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<v Speaker 3>Weirdly, though, he has an assistant who's like Harpo Marx.

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<v Speaker 3>She I don't know if she's just mute or what,

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<v Speaker 3>but she can't. She doesn't speak through the whole movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you find that a little peculiar?

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<v Speaker 4>Sound?

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<v Speaker 2>Everything movie peculiar about it?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 3>No, So this engineer Bobby, he's good at what he does,

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<v Speaker 3>but he really wants to be a DJ. That's his dream.

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<v Speaker 3>This is an aspirational thing. So he's always practicing in

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<v Speaker 3>the bathroom and he's he'll pull Dugan aside and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>listen to this, and Hugan, to his credit, Number one,

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<v Speaker 3>takes time to listen to this whack job deliver his piece,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's always encouraging him. He's, look, don't be so flashy,

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<v Speaker 3>just be honest. But guess what, don't stop. I like

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<v Speaker 3>where you're going with this. Don't stop, keep coming. And

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<v Speaker 3>eventually Jeff sees all the hard work this guy's putting

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<v Speaker 3>in and promotes him to newsreader. So good for him,

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<v Speaker 3>good for Bobby, good for Dugan. Another another cab, another

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<v Speaker 3>feather in his cap.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, this doing guy, he could do, no prom.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know that he lives in this awesome bitch

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<v Speaker 3>and pad in Laurel Canyon, right because he crawls out

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<v Speaker 3>of bed at in the morning and it's all trees

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<v Speaker 3>and beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me correct you. He lives in the hills.

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<v Speaker 2>He lives in the Hollywood Hills.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, he lives in the hills. Okay, I figured Laurel

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<v Speaker 3>Canyon for the vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because he would not be getting to his station

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunset Boulevard from Laurel Canyon in five minutes. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care how fast his little Porsche goes.

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<v Speaker 4>No, for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>But let's talk about I want to start off here

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<v Speaker 3>by we can get into the plot points and some

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<v Speaker 3>of the other finer points of this, But what I

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<v Speaker 3>want to try to get into first is maybe try

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<v Speaker 3>to pull out some of the things you maybe liked

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<v Speaker 3>about this, or that some of the things that people

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<v Speaker 3>coming into this who aren't predisposed of enjoying it might

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<v Speaker 3>like the footage father alone of late seventies LA is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to admit that.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, you know me, I love Los Angeles. I

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<v Speaker 2>love every decade of Los Angeles, this in particular, this

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<v Speaker 2>weirdo version of LA where it hasn't really fallen to

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<v Speaker 2>the ruin of the eighties, but it's still it ain't well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say, and I love seeing early morning footage of

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<v Speaker 2>all of the places that I eventually haunted and that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know this just there were

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<v Speaker 2>so many films being made at that time in and

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<v Speaker 2>around those areas that it's just I don't know. It

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<v Speaker 2>always feels like home for some reason to see it,

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<v Speaker 2>let me put it that way. Yes, definitely, That's very

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<v Speaker 2>high on my list of things that I liked about

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<v Speaker 2>the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a look about it, like you said, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of early morning footage of the sun coming

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<v Speaker 3>up over the city. You get to see a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of cool like it felt. Man, I would have loved

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<v Speaker 3>to have lived there at that time, in that place,

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<v Speaker 3>because you see things like the DJs go to a

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<v Speaker 3>record signing for Rio Speedwagon. They go to Tower Records, which

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<v Speaker 3>isn't even really around anymore, but it just looks so

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<v Speaker 3>fucking cool.

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<v Speaker 4>They're all in. They're actually in.

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<v Speaker 3>The real Tower Records. The real band is there signing records.

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<v Speaker 4>And what have you.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks like it's late night. It's got that great

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<v Speaker 3>nighttime texture to it. Man, that looks not that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a big Rio Speedwagon fan, but man, to be hanging

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<v Speaker 3>out in Tower Records late at night, like with the

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<v Speaker 3>band listening to cool records, and it was records, not CDs,

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<v Speaker 3>not cassettes, records, platters.

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<v Speaker 2>I bought a cassette tape in that Tower Records.

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<v Speaker 4>You've been I was gonna say, I bet you've been

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<v Speaker 4>to that Tower Records.

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<v Speaker 2>I bought Hell's Ditch by the Pogues in that Tower record.

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<v Speaker 3>Did it still kind of look the same as it

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<v Speaker 3>did in this movie?

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<v Speaker 2>Looked exactly the same as it looked in this movie. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was the one that was the one unchanging thing,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the unchanging things. Now it is a transitory town,

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<v Speaker 2>but there are certain landmarks that just seemed to always

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<v Speaker 2>be there, so hopefully will continue to.

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<v Speaker 3>So not to cut to the chase of all of

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<v Speaker 3>the best stuff in this movie, but I think another

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<v Speaker 3>thing that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Linda Ronstadt. Let me just interrupt. Look when you

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<v Speaker 2>said we're gonna watch FM, I thought, haha, joke's on you.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that movie Linda Ronstats. In that movie. Here

429
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<v Speaker 2>was something I discovered only within the past five years

430
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<v Speaker 2>about myself. Evidently I'm a fucking enormous Linda Ronstadt fan.

431
00:22:39.799 --> 00:22:41.920
<v Speaker 2>If I could look at my final collection right now,

432
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<v Speaker 2>he's no. Here's how I figured it out. I was

433
00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:45.799
<v Speaker 2>at a I was at it. I was at Amba

434
00:22:46.279 --> 00:22:50.079
<v Speaker 2>in Los Angeles, and a Linda Ronstadt song came on

435
00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:51.519
<v Speaker 2>and I thought, oh, let me go look at the

436
00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Linda Ronstadt records. And as I'm flipping through her entire

437
00:22:54.880 --> 00:22:58.240
<v Speaker 2>fucking catalog, I realized I had every single one of them.

438
00:22:58.400 --> 00:23:00.759
<v Speaker 2>So I've been collecting them slowly over the years, having

439
00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:04.960
<v Speaker 2>no idea. So the prospect of watching Linda Ronstat in

440
00:23:05.079 --> 00:23:08.920
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy eight singing two or three of my favorite

441
00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:14.000
<v Speaker 2>fucking numbers of hers, Yes, yes, please, and not disappointed

442
00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:17.559
<v Speaker 2>at all. That voice, Man, I can't get over it.

443
00:23:17.559 --> 00:23:21.680
<v Speaker 2>It's the perfect fucking rock and roll voice.

444
00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:25.640
<v Speaker 3>She's amazing. This movie actually, if I'm being truthful, made

445
00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:28.440
<v Speaker 3>me a Linda Ronstadt fan because I grew up like

446
00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:31.680
<v Speaker 3>you did. Linda Ronstadt was on the radio You'd hear

447
00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:35.559
<v Speaker 3>Blue by You. She had that Nelson Riddle record, which

448
00:23:35.599 --> 00:23:37.960
<v Speaker 3>she got pilloried for at the time because.

449
00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:39.759
<v Speaker 2>Of the album. I liked that album a lot.

450
00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:42.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, she was ahead of her time period.

451
00:23:43.279 --> 00:23:47.680
<v Speaker 3>But and I probably first saw FM, if I'm being honest,

452
00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:50.480
<v Speaker 3>maybe it was I think it was. Maybe I don't

453
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<v Speaker 3>know if it was on cable or maybe it was

454
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<v Speaker 3>when it was first released on video because Anchor Bay,

455
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<v Speaker 3>I think this was an Anchor Bay released. Anchor Bay,

456
00:23:57.599 --> 00:23:59.960
<v Speaker 3>for those who don't know, was a was a boutique

457
00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:04.880
<v Speaker 3>producer of DVDs and VHS tapes back in the early

458
00:24:05.519 --> 00:24:07.799
<v Speaker 3>to mid nineties, and on.

459
00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:10.240
<v Speaker 2>I Stay with twenty one Jump Street collection.

460
00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:14.200
<v Speaker 3>They would put out like interesting odd off the wall,

461
00:24:14.519 --> 00:24:20.119
<v Speaker 3>not necessarily Criterion collection level of prestige, but interesting choices,

462
00:24:20.160 --> 00:24:22.920
<v Speaker 3>and this was one of them. And when I when

463
00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:25.640
<v Speaker 3>they got to this, it's effectively in the middle of

464
00:24:25.640 --> 00:24:28.359
<v Speaker 3>the movie. The plot point that we're supposed to follow

465
00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:31.680
<v Speaker 3>is Jeff Dugan is such a crafty motherfucker. There's a

466
00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:35.880
<v Speaker 3>rival station that is sponsoring a Linda Ronstadt concert, and

467
00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:41.119
<v Speaker 3>Jeff Dugan hatches a plot to basically simulcast the whole

468
00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:45.240
<v Speaker 3>concert on his radio station without this guy even being

469
00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:47.279
<v Speaker 3>able to do anything about it. So there's a lot

470
00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:51.119
<v Speaker 3>of hijinks involved there, But for us the viewer, what

471
00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:54.119
<v Speaker 3>the payoff is. We effectively get to see a mini

472
00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:58.119
<v Speaker 3>Linda Ronstadt set, and this is an actual live set.

473
00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:01.359
<v Speaker 3>This isn't her lip syncing, this is her and her

474
00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:05.079
<v Speaker 3>band performing with Before I even go any further, I

475
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<v Speaker 3>have to speak the virtues or extole the virtues of

476
00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:14.039
<v Speaker 3>one of my favorites of all time, mister Watti Wachtell

477
00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:17.559
<v Speaker 3>on guitar and backing vocals. He's the guy that you see.

478
00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:21.000
<v Speaker 3>He's He's been on PROB, no doubt. He's probably been

479
00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:23.160
<v Speaker 3>on many of your favorite songs or co written them.

480
00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:27.799
<v Speaker 3>He the iconic driving guitar riff on Stevie Nix's Edge

481
00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:30.920
<v Speaker 3>of seventeen Dog Dog Dog, Dog Dogada, that's.

482
00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:31.480
<v Speaker 4>Watti wak Tell.

483
00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:34.839
<v Speaker 3>He co wrote were Wolves of London with Warren Zevon.

484
00:25:35.799 --> 00:25:39.880
<v Speaker 3>He's played on albums by James Taylor, Carol King, Jackson Brown,

485
00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:44.279
<v Speaker 3>Randy Newman, Bonnie Rait, Brian Ferry. The man is a legend.

486
00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:48.960
<v Speaker 3>He is effectively her He does all the backing vocals

487
00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:51.119
<v Speaker 3>and the guitar, and it looks to me like he's

488
00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:53.759
<v Speaker 3>a bit of a music director for the band because

489
00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:56.839
<v Speaker 3>you can see during this concert footage that they're all taking.

490
00:25:56.599 --> 00:25:59.839
<v Speaker 4>Cues from him. He is so good and so dan.

491
00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:03.440
<v Speaker 3>I had the pleasure of seeing him with Stevie Nicks

492
00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:06.680
<v Speaker 3>two years ago they came to They came here to

493
00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:10.599
<v Speaker 3>Gillette Stadium and it was I couldn't believe it. The

494
00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:14.319
<v Speaker 3>guy's fantastic. Having said that, we're all here to see

495
00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:18.519
<v Speaker 3>Linda Ronstad and I know I am, and she performs.

496
00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:21.240
<v Speaker 3>She kicks things off with cover of Tumbling Dice by

497
00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:26.319
<v Speaker 3>Baring Stones, which is incredible. And this is a band,

498
00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:29.640
<v Speaker 3>like I know, it's easy for someone that of our

499
00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:30.799
<v Speaker 3>vintage to say.

500
00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:32.279
<v Speaker 4>Ah music nowadays.

501
00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:35.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you music at back then, and this was

502
00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:39.480
<v Speaker 3>probably even slightly before my time. This was a band.

503
00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:41.640
<v Speaker 3>They are listening to each other, they are locked in.

504
00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:46.480
<v Speaker 3>They are all pro musicians, including the one, the titular head,

505
00:26:46.759 --> 00:26:47.640
<v Speaker 3>Linda Ronstadt.

506
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:48.359
<v Speaker 4>It's magic.

507
00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:50.799
<v Speaker 3>So they do tumbling dice, which is awesome.

508
00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:52.880
<v Speaker 2>This is a time when you didn't have to be

509
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:56.000
<v Speaker 2>pretty to be a musician. She just she's having no, no, no,

510
00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:57.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking about Linda ron Set. I'm talking about

511
00:26:57.759 --> 00:26:59.599
<v Speaker 2>the back Linda ni Oh, yeah.

512
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<v Speaker 4>Gorgeous, that's true. These are the crazy, but these are

513
00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:06.200
<v Speaker 4>not the best looking.

514
00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:07.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, way do you walk tell for all of

515
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:09.680
<v Speaker 3>his virtues is kind of a nebush.

516
00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:13.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking about Linda Ronstein right there you.

517
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:16.079
<v Speaker 3>Go, But this is but you can see, you can

518
00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:19.079
<v Speaker 3>tell that they are lists there enjoying each other as

519
00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:20.000
<v Speaker 3>they play this song.

520
00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:22.160
<v Speaker 4>It's it's magical to behold.

521
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:26.200
<v Speaker 3>So they do tumbling dice, followed by poor, poor pitiful meat,

522
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:27.160
<v Speaker 3>which is my favorite.

523
00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:28.079
<v Speaker 5>God.

524
00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of Warren, and I think you and I have

525
00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:34.000
<v Speaker 2>spoken about this off there. It's better than Warren Zevon's.

526
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:37.200
<v Speaker 2>That might be sacrilege to Warren zevun fans, but the

527
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:40.839
<v Speaker 2>fact is Linda Ronstet was known by musicians as like

528
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.000
<v Speaker 2>the best and worst thing to happen to them, because

529
00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:47.119
<v Speaker 2>she would shine a huge spotlight on them if she

530
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:49.920
<v Speaker 2>covered one of their songs. But it was accepted that

531
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:52.240
<v Speaker 2>once she did that, it was kind of her song

532
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:55.559
<v Speaker 2>there's a theory that it's the singer not the song, right,

533
00:27:55.680 --> 00:28:00.400
<v Speaker 2>which I flat out disagree with, except in the case

534
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:04.640
<v Speaker 2>of Linda Ronstat like ninety nine percent of her music

535
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:07.599
<v Speaker 2>are all covers of other people's stuff, and for some

536
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:11.920
<v Speaker 2>reason that she does make it her own. That's all.

537
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:13.240
<v Speaker 4>She's wonderful.

538
00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:17.279
<v Speaker 3>Her version of poor, poor pitiful me is I'd said

539
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:20.519
<v Speaker 3>this to you off the air, is, in my opinion, definitive.

540
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:23.000
<v Speaker 3>When I think of that song, I don't think of

541
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:27.400
<v Speaker 3>nothing against warren Zevon, he's just I just prefer her

542
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:30.960
<v Speaker 3>interpretation of it. There's something about the lyrics and having

543
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:34.240
<v Speaker 3>them sung through a female perspective I think works better

544
00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:37.039
<v Speaker 3>for the song. No offense to warren Zevon rest in peace.

545
00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:41.079
<v Speaker 2>So it's much more of a torture that a female

546
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:44.119
<v Speaker 2>is saying, where warren Zevons saying it's like jokey, all

547
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:46.519
<v Speaker 2>these things are happening to me, But for her it's

548
00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:49.359
<v Speaker 2>like motherfucker, another.

549
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:49.440
<v Speaker 7>One of you.

550
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 4>That's the thing he's singing it. It's a bit of

551
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:55.160
<v Speaker 4>a braggadocio. Oh all these women, what am I gonna

552
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:57.200
<v Speaker 4>do with myself? Poor me?

553
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:00.160
<v Speaker 3>But with her it's just it's got that twist, and

554
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:03.880
<v Speaker 3>she's she's so fucking talented that I can't say enough

555
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:08.200
<v Speaker 3>good things. The final song that she sings is a

556
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:11.519
<v Speaker 3>cover of Love Me Tender by obviously by Elvis Presley,

557
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.720
<v Speaker 3>and it's actually it matches with a sequence with Mother

558
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:19.680
<v Speaker 3>is doing her show as she's singing the song, and

559
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:23.839
<v Speaker 3>it's a wonderful match of the song's vibe with this

560
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:28.839
<v Speaker 3>late night DJ in this quiet, darkened studio.

561
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:30.720
<v Speaker 4>It's just it, man.

562
00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:33.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to sit here and pretend that FM

563
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:37.359
<v Speaker 3>is an important movie, that it is a movie that

564
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:42.319
<v Speaker 3>belongs in the Criterion collection. But when it hits, man,

565
00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:46.519
<v Speaker 3>it hits fucking hard, and it hits hard with this.

566
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:49.319
<v Speaker 3>It really hits an apex with this Linda ronstat bit.

567
00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:52.599
<v Speaker 3>Despite itself, I think the vibe is great, and plus

568
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:55.480
<v Speaker 3>it looks so fucking awesome to be going to a

569
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:59.400
<v Speaker 3>rock show in nineteen seventy eight. It just it looks

570
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:02.920
<v Speaker 3>like everybody these dream of living like fun and free

571
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:04.680
<v Speaker 3>and easy in LA And that's one of the things

572
00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:06.000
<v Speaker 3>I love about this movie.

573
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:08.319
<v Speaker 2>It was the pinnacle for rock and roll right there.

574
00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:11.519
<v Speaker 2>It was all downhill from there because rock and roll,

575
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:13.960
<v Speaker 2>rock and roll splintered so fucking hard at that point,

576
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:16.920
<v Speaker 2>like after seventy eight, seventy nine, it was gonna be

577
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:18.680
<v Speaker 2>hip hop, it was gonna be new wave, it was

578
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:20.680
<v Speaker 2>going to be punk, it was going to be all

579
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:22.640
<v Speaker 2>the tributaries speaking of rock and roll.

580
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:24.119
<v Speaker 4>Let's talk about the soundtrack a little bit.

581
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:28.599
<v Speaker 3>The soundtrack, the IRV special it was, and he in fact,

582
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:31.160
<v Speaker 3>he actually I think I read somewhere that he asked

583
00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:33.079
<v Speaker 3>to have his name taken off of this because he

584
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:35.720
<v Speaker 3>didn't want it to be seen as his project.

585
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:38.160
<v Speaker 2>But in fact, he said he took it off because

586
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:40.680
<v Speaker 2>he didn't agree with the treatment of the music industry.

587
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:43.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I think that's what are you talking about.

588
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:45.240
<v Speaker 2>Everyone comes off like gold.

589
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the musicians are treated like they're basically shown as

590
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:52.799
<v Speaker 3>like this incredible exponent of la rock music at that time.

591
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:54.960
<v Speaker 3>But let's talk about the soundtrack a little bit. So

592
00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:58.160
<v Speaker 3>these this is, as you said, this is probably as

593
00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:01.559
<v Speaker 3>good as it got at this moment in time, because

594
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:05.200
<v Speaker 3>you have FM, the actual song FM, written and performed

595
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:07.400
<v Speaker 3>by Steely Dan, one of my big favorites.

596
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.680
<v Speaker 4>You've got them. It was big.

597
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:13.359
<v Speaker 3>I think this actually it won and I want a

598
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:17.119
<v Speaker 3>Grammy for Best engineered song or some weird I want

599
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:18.759
<v Speaker 3>a Grammy. It wasn't like you were on best song,

600
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:20.359
<v Speaker 3>but it was more for the engineering.

601
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:23.920
<v Speaker 2>But it's one of my at Irving is all of

602
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:27.480
<v Speaker 2>these artist manager by the manager put that in context.

603
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:29.400
<v Speaker 2>We don't do that enough. I don't think.

604
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:31.079
<v Speaker 4>Should have made that clear. Sorry.

605
00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:34.640
<v Speaker 3>Steve Miller Band is on this foreigner Tom Petty. Tom

606
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:37.519
<v Speaker 3>Petty makes a little appearance and as an interviewer and

607
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:39.440
<v Speaker 3>if ue at the radio station.

608
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:42.279
<v Speaker 4>But he's Tom Petty. Let's see the Eagles.

609
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:48.079
<v Speaker 3>Of course, bos Skaggs early yacht rock for you Boston

610
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:49.640
<v Speaker 3>is on this soundtrack.

611
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:52.440
<v Speaker 2>This is seventies rock right here. You know what the

612
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Irving asoff. Shouldn't have had any guilt at all. He

613
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:56.799
<v Speaker 2>should have said, what do you want? This is fucking

614
00:31:57.039 --> 00:31:58.839
<v Speaker 2>this is I am the music scene.

615
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:00.839
<v Speaker 4>It's wall to all music.

616
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:03.440
<v Speaker 3>Dan Fogelberg, who you no one ever thinks about now?

617
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:04.720
<v Speaker 4>Dan so great.

618
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.000
<v Speaker 3>His song There's a Place in the World for a

619
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:13.200
<v Speaker 3>Gambler is soundtracking basically Mother quitting, finally quitting, just and

620
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:16.759
<v Speaker 3>it's just again. It is emotional because the mood of

621
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:20.400
<v Speaker 3>the song is so sad and slow moving and you

622
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:24.039
<v Speaker 3>really feel it, Billy Joel's on this, Doobie Brothers, of course,

623
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:25.599
<v Speaker 3>James Taylor, Queen.

624
00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:27.960
<v Speaker 4>This was the did you know Father Malone?

625
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:31.319
<v Speaker 3>This was the first instance of Queen appearing on a

626
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:33.200
<v Speaker 3>movie soundtrack.

627
00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:35.359
<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't be their last.

628
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:36.319
<v Speaker 4>It would not be.

629
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Their last, but I think that's worthy of calling out

630
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:43.359
<v Speaker 3>because they I think they've gone on to to offer

631
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:46.880
<v Speaker 3>their music something like fifty three movies since this, but

632
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:49.839
<v Speaker 3>this was the very first. We Will Rock You, So yeah,

633
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:53.480
<v Speaker 3>this the soundtrack is pretty bananas and much more successful

634
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:56.799
<v Speaker 3>than the movie could ever hope to be.

635
00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:00.519
<v Speaker 4>But it's I don't know, man, the mood of the movie.

636
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:01.160
<v Speaker 4>I love it.

637
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:04.759
<v Speaker 3>I love the radio station itself. Look, I was a

638
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:07.119
<v Speaker 3>I think I've spoken about this on Noise Junkies. I

639
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:12.119
<v Speaker 3>was a college DJ and music director, and while I

640
00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:14.759
<v Speaker 3>would never claim that our radio station looked anything like

641
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:18.400
<v Speaker 3>this one, the vibe I thought was just so fucking cool.

642
00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:21.799
<v Speaker 3>It's like there's texture for days in this radio station.

643
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:26.599
<v Speaker 3>It's wall to wall promo posters and pictures like you

644
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:30.279
<v Speaker 3>would get from the from the record labels. There's albums

645
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:34.799
<v Speaker 3>everywhere you look. His Dugan's office has like a full bar.

646
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:38.440
<v Speaker 3>It's all like nicely wood and polished everything.

647
00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:43.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The movie's production designer is Lawrence G. Paul. Yeah,

648
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:45.720
<v Speaker 2>also the production designer on Blade Runner.

649
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:50.759
<v Speaker 3>Then that explains why it's so dense with detail and really.

650
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:53.519
<v Speaker 2>And because John Alonso is a director of photography most

651
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:55.960
<v Speaker 2>of the time, the movie looks fucking great.

652
00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:56.680
<v Speaker 4>It does.

653
00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:58.839
<v Speaker 3>That's These are the things, like I said that I

654
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:00.960
<v Speaker 3>think you and I I can agree with. I know

655
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:03.279
<v Speaker 3>this isn't one of your favorite movies, not even close.

656
00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:06.519
<v Speaker 2>But oh it's a fucking terrible movie.

657
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:10.199
<v Speaker 3>This movie has its charms, though I'm a sucker for it. Man,

658
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:12.159
<v Speaker 3>it feels cozy to me father alone.

659
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Here's the problem with the movie, HP. This movie wants

660
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:21.039
<v Speaker 2>to be the snobs versus the slobs, or the snobs

661
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.320
<v Speaker 2>versus the slobs. It wants to be an underdog story

662
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:28.039
<v Speaker 2>about the most successful people in Los Angeles. They're the

663
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:31.119
<v Speaker 2>number one station, all of their DJs are the number

664
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:35.000
<v Speaker 2>one at everything, and then they go and steal a

665
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:38.960
<v Speaker 2>lesser radio stations broadcast of a thing like I was

666
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:41.559
<v Speaker 2>just like, this isn't like hijinks this if they had

667
00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:44.960
<v Speaker 2>been the least the last rated station in Los Angeles,

668
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:47.679
<v Speaker 2>if this was this, like underground. Yeah, we're gonna stick

669
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:50.159
<v Speaker 2>it to the man thing. Then everything they'd engage in

670
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:52.559
<v Speaker 2>from without would make sense. It would also make sense

671
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:55.519
<v Speaker 2>to that fighting the army. Here's the thing. The central

672
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:58.880
<v Speaker 2>plot in the movie is that the corporate is putting

673
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:02.320
<v Speaker 2>more advertising on it. More specifically, it's if they want

674
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:05.519
<v Speaker 2>to advertise the army, which it's nineteen seventy eight, that's

675
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:08.880
<v Speaker 2>the uncoolest thing in the world. Man, can't do that

676
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:11.960
<v Speaker 2>right now whatever, I don't care, like whatever your politics

677
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:16.519
<v Speaker 2>are like anyway, point being the conflict is this group

678
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:20.480
<v Speaker 2>of misfits and don't want military advertising on their station.

679
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:23.960
<v Speaker 2>The corporation has ten stations and they're going to force

680
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:27.480
<v Speaker 2>the ads on all ten stations. As the number one station,

681
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:30.280
<v Speaker 2>they could just say, fuck you, we're not doing it.

682
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:33.920
<v Speaker 2>We're number one, and whatever the army is going to

683
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:36.320
<v Speaker 2>pay you, I bet I can get the same amount,

684
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.519
<v Speaker 2>if not more advertising right now because we're the number

685
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:41.840
<v Speaker 2>one station. If we can do that, we don't want

686
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:43.280
<v Speaker 2>your advertising. End of that.

687
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:46.400
<v Speaker 3>So a couple of things in response to that. First

688
00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:49.039
<v Speaker 3>of all, you're absolutely right that in a funny way,

689
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:51.760
<v Speaker 3>this is a reverse of slop. This is really snobs

690
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:56.280
<v Speaker 3>versus slobs, because it's almost like you're seeing the usual

691
00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:58.480
<v Speaker 3>slobs versus snobs from the other side.

692
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is like watching the Fuck fraternity and animal

693
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:04.960
<v Speaker 2>houses like nied A Meyer and his boys plotting to

694
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:06.320
<v Speaker 2>go fuck with the Deltas.

695
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:08.360
<v Speaker 4>And that's fine.

696
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:10.320
<v Speaker 3>At least you get the sense that this was a

697
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:14.639
<v Speaker 3>hard won victory and these are the best DJs in town.

698
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:16.559
<v Speaker 3>But you really get the sense that they had to

699
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:20.400
<v Speaker 3>work to get to where they were. And I'm okay

700
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:23.159
<v Speaker 3>with that. But where maybe it's not quite as accurate

701
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:26.519
<v Speaker 3>is that at one point they actually Dugan actually agrees

702
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:29.840
<v Speaker 3>to the deal with the army. The problem is it

703
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:31.760
<v Speaker 3>problem isn't that it's the army that wants to do

704
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:35.639
<v Speaker 3>the advertising. The problem is they want to advertise so

705
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:40.159
<v Speaker 3>frequently on the radio station that Indugan's estimation, it would

706
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:43.119
<v Speaker 3>just water down everything, like it would make them sound

707
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:45.159
<v Speaker 3>like they were owned by the army if they put

708
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:47.920
<v Speaker 3>on three ads an hour, seven days a week.

709
00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:48.519
<v Speaker 4>Whatever it is.

710
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:53.239
<v Speaker 3>So Gugen's idea is, let's, first of all, let's have

711
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:56.480
<v Speaker 3>the DJs themselves record their own spots for the army.

712
00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:57.599
<v Speaker 4>And he does this great.

713
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:01.360
<v Speaker 3>He does an imitation of Eileen Brennan Clevonne Little doing

714
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:04.079
<v Speaker 3>their DJ pitches, which I actually thought was really funny.

715
00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, he does impressions of them. I don't know that

716
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:07.239
<v Speaker 2>I would say they were great.

717
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:09.760
<v Speaker 3>I thought they were the one of Aileen Brennan I

718
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:10.719
<v Speaker 3>thought was fantastic.

719
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:13.199
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, did I say the main problem with this

720
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:16.760
<v Speaker 2>movie is that it's that it's the actual not underdogs.

721
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:18.320
<v Speaker 2>It's not the main problem with the movie is the

722
00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:20.280
<v Speaker 2>lead character. Anyway, go ahead, the lead act.

723
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:22.280
<v Speaker 4>Well, okay, what we can get into him in a minute.

724
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:25.159
<v Speaker 3>But my point is he tells the sales manager, look,

725
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:27.880
<v Speaker 3>this can work. Let's let the let's let the jocks

726
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:30.400
<v Speaker 3>through their own ads and we're good. And the sales

727
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:33.000
<v Speaker 3>managers yeah, that's great, so we can agree. He said, yeah,

728
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:34.880
<v Speaker 3>but I can't do it if we're going to have

729
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:38.480
<v Speaker 3>to do it three three ads an hour X amount

730
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:41.880
<v Speaker 3>of days a week. And the sales manager says, yeah,

731
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:43.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't think the army is going to go for that,

732
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:45.880
<v Speaker 3>and then Dugan says, then I guess they're going to

733
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:48.679
<v Speaker 3>have to go somewhere else. The problem then becomes the

734
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:52.360
<v Speaker 3>sales manager doesn't take no for an answer, and he says, look, I'll.

735
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.159
<v Speaker 4>Take this all the way to the top if i have.

736
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:56.320
<v Speaker 3>To, but we're not going to lose this deal, and

737
00:37:56.360 --> 00:38:00.559
<v Speaker 3>effectively forces Dugan not to go again to his own

738
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:05.719
<v Speaker 3>morals and he quits in protest. So it's not just

739
00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:08.159
<v Speaker 3>a minor correction. It's not that it's the army wanting

740
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:10.280
<v Speaker 3>to do the advertising. That's a little part of it.

741
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:12.679
<v Speaker 3>But it's that they were relentless in the number of

742
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:14.679
<v Speaker 3>ads they wanted to put on the radio station.

743
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:17.519
<v Speaker 2>And that's a number one station. You say, whatever revenue

744
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:19.079
<v Speaker 2>that they're going to pull in, I can pull it

745
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:21.000
<v Speaker 2>in further. I can do it right now. We can

746
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:23.159
<v Speaker 2>make two calls and we'll get that. We'll get the

747
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:26.960
<v Speaker 2>exact same amount with a number one station in Los Angeles, California.

748
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:29.840
<v Speaker 2>The end, Sorry, we're gonna have to come up with

749
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:32.800
<v Speaker 2>a different fucking sitcom plot. We're not going to save

750
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:34.000
<v Speaker 2>the rec center this time.

751
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:38.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, they do, in fact, because what happens is after

752
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:40.039
<v Speaker 3>Dugan RESI, I'm.

753
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Not going to go with them to save the rec center.

754
00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:44.760
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying. I reject their saving of the

755
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:46.719
<v Speaker 2>fucking rec center this time. The kids are going to

756
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:50.599
<v Speaker 2>have to find another place to play Zaxon, this is Zaxon.

757
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:57.239
<v Speaker 2>What else suppls we pull out of that defender? Of course.

758
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:07.199
<v Speaker 3>Galax In maybe some elevator action one of my favorites anyway,

759
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:09.760
<v Speaker 3>So what where it goes off the rails plot wise

760
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:13.039
<v Speaker 3>for me at least, is after Dugan resigns the rest

761
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:13.679
<v Speaker 3>of the DJs.

762
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.880
<v Speaker 2>That's where it goes off. Goes off the rails in

763
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:19.519
<v Speaker 2>the fucking opening scene.

764
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:23.199
<v Speaker 3>So he resigns, the rest of the DJ's decided that

765
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:25.800
<v Speaker 3>this is not good, so they effectively go on strike

766
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:29.960
<v Speaker 3>and they take over the radio station. And it gets

767
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:33.760
<v Speaker 3>a little it's strains credulity at this point because they

768
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:38.320
<v Speaker 3>literally barricade themselves inside of this radio station. The cops

769
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:40.800
<v Speaker 3>are there with no I guess they have some thought

770
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:43.559
<v Speaker 3>as to maybe losing their jobs and or their careers,

771
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:46.079
<v Speaker 3>but everything comes out at the end. Because Norman Lloyd

772
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:48.679
<v Speaker 3>is the head of the corporation that owns the station,

773
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:53.199
<v Speaker 3>he eventually is disturbed by this kerfuffle. He flies out

774
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:58.559
<v Speaker 3>from Texas and he admires Dugan's moxie and the fact

775
00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:01.159
<v Speaker 3>that all of his employ he's love him so much

776
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:05.519
<v Speaker 3>that he fires the sales manager who wanted to foist

777
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:08.599
<v Speaker 3>these ads upon him and to the strains of the

778
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:10.480
<v Speaker 3>FM reprise by Steely.

779
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:13.079
<v Speaker 4>Dan all as well with the world Baby.

780
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:17.920
<v Speaker 2>As you frown, listen, It's terrible. This is a terrible movie.

781
00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:21.480
<v Speaker 2>The characters are terrible, the dialogue is terrible. Everything's terrible.

782
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I enjoy it as a snapshot of a time and

783
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:26.159
<v Speaker 2>a place, and I enjoy some of the musical performances.

784
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:29.239
<v Speaker 2>And yes, I enjoy watching Martin mull and Eileen Brennan

785
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:30.400
<v Speaker 2>and Clevond Little.

786
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:31.519
<v Speaker 1>That is all.

787
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:35.119
<v Speaker 2>The lead guy is so unappealing.

788
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:35.760
<v Speaker 4>Michael Brandon.

789
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:37.800
<v Speaker 2>You didn't like him. I did not like him, and

790
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.719
<v Speaker 2>I do not like his character for some reason. It's

791
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:43.760
<v Speaker 2>you know what it is like watching Niedemeyer. It's just

792
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:45.760
<v Speaker 2>just because he has long hair and he listens to

793
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:48.400
<v Speaker 2>fucking Steely Dan. Like I'm supposed to think he's cool.

794
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:50.000
<v Speaker 2>He's not. He just seems like a dick.

795
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Did you know that Michael Brandon was in Captain America

796
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:55.000
<v Speaker 3>The First Avenger?

797
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:57.280
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I didn't know that.

798
00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:59.800
<v Speaker 2>I did my due diligence. I know he's a working actor.

799
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.920
<v Speaker 2>If he's a Johnyman, he's been fucking humping it ever since.

800
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:05.480
<v Speaker 2>God bless him. I just don't like him as the

801
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:08.480
<v Speaker 2>character who should have as this character, the character who

802
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:11.320
<v Speaker 2>should have been played by Bill Murray now, but he.

803
00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:13.440
<v Speaker 4>Bill Murray would have had too much of a.

804
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:18.880
<v Speaker 2>A Bill Murray type, someone who's loose and fun. This

805
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:21.199
<v Speaker 2>guy just seems like a prick to me. I don't

806
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:23.000
<v Speaker 2>know how else to say it. I know I should

807
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:25.880
<v Speaker 2>be more descriptive as a man on the radio, but

808
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:28.000
<v Speaker 2>let me tell you, there's just something I don't like

809
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:31.239
<v Speaker 2>about him. Like all, it just seemed so hipstery. It

810
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:33.519
<v Speaker 2>seems like, you know who. It seems like. It seems

811
00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:35.440
<v Speaker 2>like the guy who shows up at the punk show

812
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:37.039
<v Speaker 2>to sign the punks and he's like, what's going on

813
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:38.920
<v Speaker 2>down here? That's who he seemed like to me.

814
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:44.119
<v Speaker 4>Wow, you really didn't like him.

815
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Not at all. And I don't think i've realized the dip.

816
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:48.159
<v Speaker 2>I you know what, that's not true. I knew from

817
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:50.760
<v Speaker 2>even before the rewatch that I did not like him,

818
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:52.760
<v Speaker 2>and I was not going to enjoy his character. So

819
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:55.159
<v Speaker 2>I was going to try to luxuriate in all of

820
00:41:55.199 --> 00:41:57.440
<v Speaker 2>the other aspects of it. But this fucking movie is

821
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:00.800
<v Speaker 2>wall to wall of this fucking guy in Beard, and

822
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:01.840
<v Speaker 2>I just couldn't take.

823
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:03.719
<v Speaker 4>It him in a stupid beard.

824
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:06.159
<v Speaker 2>It's stupid. He looks dumb.

825
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.079
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what to tell you. This is This

826
00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:11.360
<v Speaker 4>is a movie that I just it's.

827
00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:14.800
<v Speaker 2>All about with this weirdo thing where Martin Moule's character,

828
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:19.440
<v Speaker 2>this new artist shows up and basically fucks him on air,

829
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:22.599
<v Speaker 2>and he accidentally leaves the microphone on, so the record

830
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:24.960
<v Speaker 2>is playing and you're hearing them having sex. So the

831
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:27.679
<v Speaker 2>big joke is that when they come in that he's,

832
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:29.440
<v Speaker 2>oh no, it was a new thing. I was doing

833
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:32.719
<v Speaker 2>this sound effects record of love making And that actually

834
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:35.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of makes sense because people were doing shit like that. Yeah,

835
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:38.920
<v Speaker 2>but that's not my point. My point is everyone rushes

836
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:41.880
<v Speaker 2>to get to the room to get him off the air,

837
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:45.239
<v Speaker 2>and the door is locked. Who's got the keys? The

838
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:48.280
<v Speaker 2>guy from the fucking corporation who just walked in, who

839
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:51.559
<v Speaker 2>gave him the keys to the fucking what is happening?

840
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:52.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

841
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:55.920
<v Speaker 3>See the thing of it is, ultimately one of the things.

842
00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:58.000
<v Speaker 2>About was that a long story for a quibble.

843
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:01.000
<v Speaker 3>That was a little bit, but you reminded me of

844
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:03.000
<v Speaker 3>something I wanted to bring up, actually, so thank you

845
00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:07.039
<v Speaker 3>for that. One of the things I find charming about

846
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:11.119
<v Speaker 3>this movie is that it is rather episodic. There is

847
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:15.480
<v Speaker 3>a basic through line of this commerce versus art thing

848
00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:19.719
<v Speaker 3>that's happening, but really things just happen here and I'm

849
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:21.960
<v Speaker 3>along for the ride. Like I said, there's at one

850
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:25.639
<v Speaker 3>point there's a Save the Whales concert that c Sky

851
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:29.039
<v Speaker 3>is sponsoring featuring Jimmy Buffett, actually Jimmy Buffett, and he

852
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:30.639
<v Speaker 3>sings living in Saturday Night.

853
00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:36.679
<v Speaker 2>That happens at one point. Can all be great performances everybody.

854
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:37.719
<v Speaker 4>At one I don't.

855
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:41.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm no fan of Jimmy Buffett, but I dig the

856
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:43.599
<v Speaker 3>fact that it's a little bit of a time capsule

857
00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:46.320
<v Speaker 3>of the kind of artist that he was at that time.

858
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:48.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying I liked the song. I'm not saying

859
00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:50.840
<v Speaker 3>I like him, but it was pretty cool because the

860
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:53.880
<v Speaker 3>concert stuff is we've already said is the best part

861
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:56.599
<v Speaker 3>of this movie, and this is just another example of that.

862
00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Blew out my flip flapp guard.

863
00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:07.840
<v Speaker 3>And at one point Swan has a crisis where he

864
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:11.880
<v Speaker 3>loses the game show hosting gig. His agent drops him

865
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:15.280
<v Speaker 3>and actually takes his girlfriend as a client. So there's

866
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:19.280
<v Speaker 3>a whole sequence where he his ego takes such a

867
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:22.559
<v Speaker 3>massive blow that he barricades himself in the air studio

868
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:24.199
<v Speaker 3>and they got to try to get him out, and

869
00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:27.760
<v Speaker 3>all of these women that are swooning over him come

870
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:29.639
<v Speaker 3>to the station to.

871
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:31.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and he lays it all out on the air,

872
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:35.480
<v Speaker 2>right like, oh, man, can't why can't I just find somebody?

873
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:37.639
<v Speaker 2>So why can't I be loved? And all the women

874
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:40.440
<v Speaker 2>are like, yeah, sensitive man, because it's the late nineteen

875
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:42.199
<v Speaker 2>seventies and allan all, there's a sex symbol.

876
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:45.280
<v Speaker 3>But as you said, Martin mul is really handsome in

877
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:46.199
<v Speaker 3>this fucking.

878
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:48.280
<v Speaker 4>He just he.

879
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:52.440
<v Speaker 3>If nothing else, not if nothing else. But you can

880
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:56.239
<v Speaker 3>also agree that this movie is maybe with the exception

881
00:44:56.360 --> 00:45:00.400
<v Speaker 3>in your case of Jeff Dugan, Michael Brandon's pretty we cast.

882
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:01.840
<v Speaker 4>There's some real heavy hitters here.

883
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:03.880
<v Speaker 3>You can fuck with the Aileen Brenn and Martin Maull,

884
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:07.400
<v Speaker 3>Clevan Little, all these people are really really good and

885
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:10.719
<v Speaker 3>they bring a lot to their performances. But I was

886
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:13.199
<v Speaker 3>just it's cozy to me. This is a movie I

887
00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:15.639
<v Speaker 3>can just put on and the music, even if not

888
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:20.480
<v Speaker 3>paying attention to it really specifically, the music's cool and

889
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:22.000
<v Speaker 3>I can check in and out of it and then

890
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:23.719
<v Speaker 3>I just go with it.

891
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:24.320
<v Speaker 4>It's fun.

892
00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:27.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, background noise is what you just said,

893
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:30.199
<v Speaker 2>Just put the fucking soundtrack on. No, but I'd love

894
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:32.519
<v Speaker 2>the put the soundtrack on. I'll send you a viewmaster

895
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:35.159
<v Speaker 2>of Los Angeles in the late nineteen seventies and you

896
00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:38.679
<v Speaker 2>can like listen to boz skags and go click aty click,

897
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:41.480
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, sunset over clickity click. Well, the Hollywood

898
00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:43.199
<v Speaker 2>Sign looks in disrepair.

899
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:47.599
<v Speaker 3>I love seeing, like I said, tower records. I don't

900
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:49.880
<v Speaker 3>know where they performed. I did try to figure out

901
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:54.320
<v Speaker 3>where Linda Ronstadt recorded her concert bits could not do that,

902
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:55.320
<v Speaker 3>but I imagine it's.

903
00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Just the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium. That's where everything seemed

904
00:45:57.960 --> 00:45:58.559
<v Speaker 2>to be recorded.

905
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:01.559
<v Speaker 3>It could have been, wasn't Maybe the forum, I don't know.

906
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:04.360
<v Speaker 3>It was one of those places, obviously, But it's so

907
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:06.480
<v Speaker 3>beautifully shot, those sequences.

908
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:08.079
<v Speaker 4>LA looks awesome.

909
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:10.760
<v Speaker 3>This is why, like I said, it's not just a

910
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:12.800
<v Speaker 3>matter of putting the soundtrack on, because I like to

911
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:16.000
<v Speaker 3>see LA in nineteen seventy eight. It makes me happy,

912
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:18.559
<v Speaker 3>even though I've only ever been to LA once, and

913
00:46:18.599 --> 00:46:20.840
<v Speaker 3>that was frankly, it was just a few months ago.

914
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Never been to La before that, But I'm in a

915
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:26.679
<v Speaker 3>way it's almost being homesick for a place that you've

916
00:46:26.679 --> 00:46:27.199
<v Speaker 3>never been to.

917
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:27.920
<v Speaker 5>Right.

918
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:31.039
<v Speaker 3>I would have loved to have been in that La

919
00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:34.199
<v Speaker 3>environment back in nineteen seventy eight as an adult.

920
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that's fun for me. So much of

921
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:41.840
<v Speaker 2>our entertainment around this time was television shows. Hundreds of

922
00:46:41.840 --> 00:46:45.119
<v Speaker 2>television shows and movies and stuff, all being filmed in

923
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:48.840
<v Speaker 2>and around what thirty mile radius in Los Angeles. Yeah,

924
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:51.920
<v Speaker 2>no doubt that. It all feels like home. It's an

925
00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:54.559
<v Speaker 2>odd experience to go somewhere you've been looking at your

926
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:56.480
<v Speaker 2>whole life and you just go, I know where everything is.

927
00:46:56.599 --> 00:46:58.639
<v Speaker 2>First time I went to Chicago, it was like, take

928
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:01.440
<v Speaker 2>me to Daily Plaza, I must see the Picasso they

929
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:05.039
<v Speaker 2>got there, you know, like rounding a corner, Yep, I

930
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:06.199
<v Speaker 2>know where this is? Okay?

931
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:06.840
<v Speaker 6>That? Yeah?

932
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:07.679
<v Speaker 2>There is that.

933
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:11.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Chicago's one of the best places, just because The

934
00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:14.639
<v Speaker 3>Blues Brothers, The Fugitive, these movies, a lot of them,

935
00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:17.199
<v Speaker 3>are the fabric of our childhood.

936
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:19.760
<v Speaker 2>And so now it's Gotham City for an entire generation.

937
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:22.559
<v Speaker 4>Is that right? They filmed Gotham there.

938
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:26.000
<v Speaker 2>No, they filmed The Christopher Nolan films were all filmed

939
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:26.599
<v Speaker 2>in Chicago.

940
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:29.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh oh, I'm sorry, you're right. I thought you meant

941
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:31.000
<v Speaker 3>the television show Gotham.

942
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:33.840
<v Speaker 2>No, they filmed that in New York. They actually filmed

943
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:37.079
<v Speaker 2>New York for Gotham. For Gotham, that was crazy. What

944
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:37.599
<v Speaker 2>an idea?

945
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:41.800
<v Speaker 4>I know what an idea exactly, but I don't know.

946
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:46.199
<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you one last question, not specifically about FM,

947
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:51.920
<v Speaker 3>but this notion of cozy comfort food movies that maybe

948
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:55.920
<v Speaker 3>aren't the most well made movie, just something that hits

949
00:47:55.960 --> 00:47:59.239
<v Speaker 3>those buttons for you. What's your comfort food movie if

950
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:00.960
<v Speaker 3>you had to pick one up out on the spot.

951
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Fallen Alone Fails from the Crypt from nineteen seventy one,

952
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:09.280
<v Speaker 2>the Emicus production with Joan Collins and Peter Cushing and

953
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Freddy Francis. That is a movie, or you know what,

954
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:16.559
<v Speaker 2>I take that back, because that's a decent movie that

955
00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I could recommend out of hand. Somebody said an anthology movie,

956
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.480
<v Speaker 2>I would recommend that one. One I would not recommend

957
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:25.320
<v Speaker 2>out of hand, but does exactly what this movie does

958
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:29.280
<v Speaker 2>for you. Is The Monster Club from nineteen eighty, which

959
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:31.519
<v Speaker 2>is the end of Amicus Films. In fact, Amicus has

960
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:35.360
<v Speaker 2>already done it's not technically that that movie is fucking terrible,

961
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:37.000
<v Speaker 2>but I love every frame of it.

962
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:39.480
<v Speaker 4>And what is it about that movie that hits you

963
00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:40.079
<v Speaker 4>just right?

964
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:43.639
<v Speaker 2>I saw it young enough and it was formative enough

965
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:47.880
<v Speaker 2>for me that even though the stories being told are

966
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:52.679
<v Speaker 2>really super simple, they were complex to me and my

967
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:57.519
<v Speaker 2>young brain. So there, I guess it's based on nostalgia

968
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:02.000
<v Speaker 2>in some way, but I still appreciate those stories the

969
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:03.639
<v Speaker 2>way I did when I was a kid, even though

970
00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:05.519
<v Speaker 2>I can recognize as an adult. If I were to

971
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:08.519
<v Speaker 2>see this today, I would go, this is a mediocre

972
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:11.039
<v Speaker 2>effort by a bunch of people who don't care. But

973
00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:14.320
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that then. And it's got a it's

974
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:18.079
<v Speaker 2>a fucking nightclub with monsters dancing for whole portions of it.

975
00:49:18.159 --> 00:49:20.360
<v Speaker 2>And it's got some really good songs in it, And

976
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:23.440
<v Speaker 2>which is what I'm saying, is the relation here to

977
00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:27.079
<v Speaker 2>FM those songs. I do have the soundtrack album and

978
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:29.199
<v Speaker 2>I can listen to them, but I want to see

979
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:32.559
<v Speaker 2>them dancing in the club with monsters, Like that's it

980
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:34.440
<v Speaker 2>does it for? The visual is part of it, So

981
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:35.119
<v Speaker 2>I get that.

982
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:38.199
<v Speaker 3>And that's a great comparison for me. The unique thing

983
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:40.599
<v Speaker 3>for me about this is that I didn't see this

984
00:49:41.400 --> 00:49:43.760
<v Speaker 3>in my youth, so I can't lean on the fact

985
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:47.400
<v Speaker 3>of like youthful nostalgia for me, A movie like you

986
00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:50.559
<v Speaker 3>describe is more like Heavy Metal, right, the animated movie,

987
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:54.320
<v Speaker 3>because that's one that I've tried watching that in with

988
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:57.159
<v Speaker 3>people who never saw it as a kid, that it's

989
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.280
<v Speaker 3>a new effectively a new movie to them, and I've

990
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:03.840
<v Speaker 3>been embarrassed because with modern eyes when you try to

991
00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:07.320
<v Speaker 3>watch Heavy Metal, it's not necessarily the cool movie that

992
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:10.920
<v Speaker 3>I remember from my youth. But it will never not

993
00:50:11.079 --> 00:50:12.880
<v Speaker 3>be that for me because I saw it when I

994
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:14.960
<v Speaker 3>was eight, nine, ten years old or whatever, so it's

995
00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:18.280
<v Speaker 3>always got that cachet. And the soundtrack is awesome. I

996
00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:20.119
<v Speaker 3>can listen to the soundtrack and it takes me back

997
00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:23.239
<v Speaker 3>to the movie. But the odd thing about FM is

998
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:27.719
<v Speaker 3>I can't lean on that youthful nostalgia to take me

999
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:30.000
<v Speaker 3>through it. I saw this when I was effectively already

1000
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.960
<v Speaker 3>an adult, so it just grabbed a hold of me

1001
00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:36.239
<v Speaker 3>in it for whatever reason, it never let go. It's weird.

1002
00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:37.679
<v Speaker 3>I can't quite explain it, but.

1003
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:42.519
<v Speaker 2>It's look, it is a trifling entertainment. I'm being really

1004
00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:45.800
<v Speaker 2>hard on it because I fucking hate that guy. And

1005
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:48.679
<v Speaker 2>there's so much about it that I like that I

1006
00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:51.239
<v Speaker 2>want it to just be. I want it to be

1007
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:53.079
<v Speaker 2>the movie it wants to be, which is just a

1008
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:55.920
<v Speaker 2>hangout movie where we spend two hours with these characters.

1009
00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:58.920
<v Speaker 2>This movie wants to be car washed for white people,

1010
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:02.280
<v Speaker 2>but it's not. They have to tack this fucking stupid

1011
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:05.320
<v Speaker 2>we got to save the rec Center subplot going on,

1012
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:10.280
<v Speaker 2>and it's so lopside, like every little plot thread is dumb,

1013
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:13.800
<v Speaker 2>and there's so much of them that I fucking hate it.

1014
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:16.119
<v Speaker 2>And I just want them to be on the air

1015
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:19.760
<v Speaker 2>and have radio station problems and then go do a

1016
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:21.960
<v Speaker 2>concert and hang out, man.

1017
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.880
<v Speaker 3>And that's exactly it. I was gonna use that term,

1018
00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:27.760
<v Speaker 3>but I didn't. There's almost too much plot for it

1019
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:30.599
<v Speaker 3>to be considered a hangout movie. To me, a hangout

1020
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:33.599
<v Speaker 3>movie is something like Dazed and Confused, where you're just

1021
00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:36.920
<v Speaker 3>there for the experience. The plot is somehow secondary to

1022
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:39.639
<v Speaker 3>just hanging out with these kids in the last day

1023
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:42.880
<v Speaker 3>of school nineteen seventy eight or whatever it was seventy nine.

1024
00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:46.800
<v Speaker 2>But or American Graffiti, what's the plot in American Graffiti?

1025
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:49.320
<v Speaker 2>There is no fucking plot. It's everyone just hanging out

1026
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:51.000
<v Speaker 2>for one night. Some people are going to be leaving

1027
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:52.119
<v Speaker 2>the next day. That's it.

1028
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:55.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want to spend time with mother and prints

1029
00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:58.800
<v Speaker 3>and hang out at this radio station. You are absolutely

1030
00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:01.119
<v Speaker 3>right there. And maybe that's why I like rewatching it

1031
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:03.119
<v Speaker 3>so much, is I feel like I'm back there with

1032
00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:04.719
<v Speaker 3>them somehow.

1033
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:07.199
<v Speaker 2>And you can totally do that, and I can see

1034
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:09.559
<v Speaker 2>that the movie can be experienced that way. It's just

1035
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:14.760
<v Speaker 2>that it's so plotty, too plotty. Keep your goddamn plot

1036
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:17.599
<v Speaker 2>mister Sachs. That's all I have to say about that.

1037
00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:21.320
<v Speaker 4>I think we've talked it out. I think we can agree.

1038
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this was not worse than Corey Ham.

1039
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:27.920
<v Speaker 3>No, that might be the low water mark for this

1040
00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:29.800
<v Speaker 3>whole series, I have to admit.

1041
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:34.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but that's unfair, because that's it's that's a

1042
00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:38.800
<v Speaker 2>real special case. As far as somebody sat down and

1043
00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:41.760
<v Speaker 2>wrote words for other people to speak in front of

1044
00:52:41.800 --> 00:52:47.199
<v Speaker 2>a camera, this is still better than Billy Crystal. Don't

1045
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:50.519
<v Speaker 2>get me started. This is technically the high point so

1046
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:53.880
<v Speaker 2>far FM because look, man, it has Linda Ronstadt in it, and

1047
00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say it's a terible movie. Don't watch

1048
00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:57.519
<v Speaker 2>it if you like Linda Ronstadt. Why haven't you watched

1049
00:52:57.519 --> 00:52:59.760
<v Speaker 2>it already? Go watch it immediately. In fact, if you

1050
00:52:59.800 --> 00:53:02.559
<v Speaker 2>have seen Linda Ronstat the documentary they made about her,

1051
00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:05.840
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, watch that documentary. I'm telling you she's

1052
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:08.440
<v Speaker 2>the best. She's just awesome. She lived her life the

1053
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:10.840
<v Speaker 2>way she fucking wanted to, and now she's at a

1054
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:14.119
<v Speaker 2>point where she can't really sing because she also has ms.

1055
00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:18.480
<v Speaker 2>We were talking off air about David Lander, but in

1056
00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:20.000
<v Speaker 2>the documentary she's like, no, I don't want to sing

1057
00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:22.519
<v Speaker 2>anymore because I can't sing like I do. But she

1058
00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:25.800
<v Speaker 2>does sing in it, like with her family, like at

1059
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:28.559
<v Speaker 2>some sort of Sunday get together or something, and what

1060
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:32.239
<v Speaker 2>she considers to be a wretched version of her voice

1061
00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:34.840
<v Speaker 2>is still better than ninety percent of people out there.

1062
00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:36.000
<v Speaker 4>She's fantastic.

1063
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:41.679
<v Speaker 3>But to see her in her absolute prime, like I said,

1064
00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:45.840
<v Speaker 3>enjoying herself, grooving to the music, listening to the band

1065
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:49.480
<v Speaker 3>as she's performing, and really just there's just such a

1066
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:53.079
<v Speaker 3>such fun to be had, and watching Linda Ronstad do

1067
00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:55.920
<v Speaker 3>her thing, it almost makes me. It doesn't almost it

1068
00:53:55.960 --> 00:53:59.320
<v Speaker 3>makes me hope or wish that they had an actual

1069
00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:03.039
<v Speaker 3>Linda Ronstad Live DVD that we could get of just

1070
00:54:03.320 --> 00:54:06.199
<v Speaker 3>her doing songs at the LA Forum or wherever it was,

1071
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:09.039
<v Speaker 3>because it's just that good. It sounds great. The musicians

1072
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:09.880
<v Speaker 3>are a top.

1073
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Notch man's great. I haven't checked out the Blu ray

1074
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:16.119
<v Speaker 2>or anything. We don't do that. We're not so techy

1075
00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:20.320
<v Speaker 2>nerdy here. But is there? Does extra footage exist?

1076
00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:20.920
<v Speaker 5>No?

1077
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:21.800
<v Speaker 4>I had.

1078
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:25.519
<v Speaker 3>I eventually upgraded to the DVD. I don't think they

1079
00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:27.159
<v Speaker 3>ever put it out on Blu Ray. I could be

1080
00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:29.880
<v Speaker 3>wrong about that. Maybe I bought it and forgot about it,

1081
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:30.760
<v Speaker 3>because that's happened.

1082
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:32.280
<v Speaker 4>But the DVD.

1083
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:34.440
<v Speaker 3>I think that this is one of those DVDs where

1084
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:36.519
<v Speaker 3>just the fact that it was released at all is

1085
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:39.559
<v Speaker 3>an achievement in and of itself. The only extra you

1086
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:42.440
<v Speaker 3>get on those kinds of movies are maybe the trailer,

1087
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:45.039
<v Speaker 3>and I think that maybe it might have been the

1088
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:49.599
<v Speaker 3>only extra. No commentary, just widescreen and a trailer.

1089
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:51.840
<v Speaker 2>I do love a trailer, but come on, there's so

1090
00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:54.079
<v Speaker 2>many people involved in this, then you got to figure

1091
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:56.000
<v Speaker 2>somebody wants to talk about it. I'd like to. I

1092
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:59.320
<v Speaker 2>would enjoy hearing a commentary by anyone involved with this movie.

1093
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:02.320
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, sure I would too, because there's got to be

1094
00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:05.360
<v Speaker 3>stories that came out of this because they were immersed

1095
00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:10.000
<v Speaker 3>in that culture of radio stations. At that time, terrestrial

1096
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:15.280
<v Speaker 3>radio was everything. It's impossible for quote unquote kids nowadays

1097
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:21.039
<v Speaker 3>to understand that that's how you consumed music. Most often,

1098
00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:23.800
<v Speaker 3>you went to the record store, you got records, actual

1099
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:27.280
<v Speaker 3>records before they were a hipster thing. Or you listened

1100
00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:30.280
<v Speaker 3>to the radio in your car. When's the last time

1101
00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:32.480
<v Speaker 3>you listened to the radio in your car? I actually

1102
00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:35.800
<v Speaker 3>put a radio station on father belone listen to music.

1103
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:38.360
<v Speaker 2>I drive a bike, so I don't really have a car.

1104
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:40.159
<v Speaker 2>But when was the last time I just listened to

1105
00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:41.280
<v Speaker 2>music for music sank?

1106
00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just pop on the radio to some FM radio

1107
00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:45.519
<v Speaker 3>station and.

1108
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Listen yesterday and the day before that. But that was

1109
00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:49.360
<v Speaker 2>not my choice.

1110
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:51.800
<v Speaker 4>It was at work to listen to podcasts at work.

1111
00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:54.679
<v Speaker 2>I listened to podcasts at work. If people I don't know,

1112
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:56.559
<v Speaker 2>if you know I work in the cannabis industry, I

1113
00:55:57.280 --> 00:56:01.880
<v Speaker 2>work in cultivation. So there are many stages of marijuana cultivation.

1114
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:04.559
<v Speaker 2>One of them is a harvest, and when we're harvesting,

1115
00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:08.440
<v Speaker 2>it isn't as intensely individual. We do it as a group.

1116
00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:10.800
<v Speaker 2>During that time, we usually just have a radio on,

1117
00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:13.480
<v Speaker 2>so we're listening to whatever station, in this case a

1118
00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:17.800
<v Speaker 2>station that plays nothing but nineties classics that everyone seems

1119
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:20.800
<v Speaker 2>to like love, and I'm just like, this was terrible.

1120
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:22.920
<v Speaker 2>I hated this whole era of music. But they're all

1121
00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:25.079
<v Speaker 2>so young that they think it's really good.

1122
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:27.159
<v Speaker 4>That's classic rock to them.

1123
00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:28.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

1124
00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:30.039
<v Speaker 4>At some point someone.

1125
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Told me that we were talking about Weezer, the band Weezer.

1126
00:56:33.800 --> 00:56:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't hate Weezer, let me just put that out there.

1127
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:39.679
<v Speaker 3>I don't hate them, but my point was that they

1128
00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:45.199
<v Speaker 3>said Weezer is classic rock for the next generation after us,

1129
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:47.440
<v Speaker 3>and it blew me away because they're one of those

1130
00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:50.320
<v Speaker 3>bands that to me now they still feel like a

1131
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:53.400
<v Speaker 3>new band even though they've been around for twenty five years,

1132
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:54.440
<v Speaker 3>thirty years.

1133
00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:55.800
<v Speaker 4>Or something like that. Ridiculous.

1134
00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:59.400
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, so but I more than thirty.

1135
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:01.159
<v Speaker 4>It's insane.

1136
00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:05.760
<v Speaker 3>But I guess my point is to me, listening to

1137
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:10.320
<v Speaker 3>terrestrial radio that isn't some talk show or like something

1138
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:14.119
<v Speaker 3>like that is a last resort for me, because it's

1139
00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:16.039
<v Speaker 3>not fun to listen to the radio now, even if

1140
00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:18.360
<v Speaker 3>it's a station with music that I would normally like,

1141
00:57:18.920 --> 00:57:24.119
<v Speaker 3>it's just so sterile. And pre programmed and a regimented

1142
00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:28.000
<v Speaker 3>It's part of the fun of FM is seeing this

1143
00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:32.719
<v Speaker 3>era of free form DJs with real personality and real

1144
00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:35.559
<v Speaker 3>autonomy as far as what songs that were going to

1145
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:40.159
<v Speaker 3>play and how to conduct their show that moment. Not

1146
00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:43.760
<v Speaker 3>only is it gone, it's been gone for decades, so

1147
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:45.719
<v Speaker 3>this might be the only way that somebody can really

1148
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:46.480
<v Speaker 3>get a taste of.

1149
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:48.719
<v Speaker 2>That you missed Charles Lockwooderra don't you.

1150
00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:52.199
<v Speaker 4>Maddie in the Morning?

1151
00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Maddie in the Morning. These are regional DJs of the

1152
00:57:57.559 --> 00:58:02.719
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventies in the Boston area. Folks Dale Dale Dorman.

1153
00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Uncle Dale, Uncle Dale. It should be

1154
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:08.719
<v Speaker 2>pointed out the local DJ, Uncle Dale Dorman or Uncle

1155
00:58:08.760 --> 00:58:11.639
<v Speaker 2>Dale as we knew him, because he also in addition

1156
00:58:11.719 --> 00:58:15.840
<v Speaker 2>to the morning DJ where he'd play disco. Basically he

1157
00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:18.280
<v Speaker 2>was on Kiss so that was a fucking disco station, right,

1158
00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:21.039
<v Speaker 2>So he was the disco DJ. By the way, the

1159
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:23.440
<v Speaker 2>better version of this movie is Thank God It's Friday.

1160
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:26.920
<v Speaker 2>That's a movie that is a hangout movie about this

1161
00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:29.840
<v Speaker 2>time period in Los Angeles, except it's about disco and

1162
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:32.719
<v Speaker 2>it accomplishes what this movie fails at anyway. In addition

1163
00:58:32.840 --> 00:58:36.639
<v Speaker 2>to being a DJ, also was the voiceover guy for

1164
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:41.960
<v Speaker 2>TV channel fifty six, and on fifty six on Sundays

1165
00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:45.159
<v Speaker 2>was Creature Double Feature. So Dale Dorman was the announcer

1166
00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:47.960
<v Speaker 2>for Creature Double Feature, which is where I used to

1167
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:51.599
<v Speaker 2>watch The Monster Club. In fact, I remember listening. I

1168
00:58:51.679 --> 00:58:54.760
<v Speaker 2>was riding in a van, we were going back home,

1169
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:58.400
<v Speaker 2>and on the radio, Dale Dorman announced that today The

1170
00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Monster Club was going to be on Creature Feature, and

1171
00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:03.119
<v Speaker 2>I could not make them make the van go fast

1172
00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:03.880
<v Speaker 2>enough to get home.

1173
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:09.719
<v Speaker 3>Because this was before DVRs, before VCRs. You missed that movie.

1174
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:13.199
<v Speaker 2>You missed it for a whole year, yep, and there

1175
00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:14.960
<v Speaker 2>was no guarantee it was coming back.

1176
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:17.639
<v Speaker 4>Yep, yep. Good times.

1177
00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:20.480
<v Speaker 2>All right, listen, I don't know what is planned next

1178
00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:22.840
<v Speaker 2>this he springs these things on me, and clearly I've

1179
00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:27.280
<v Speaker 2>already burned through my veto. But until next time, HP,

1180
00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Where can people find you when they're looking for you?

1181
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:32.920
<v Speaker 3>All right, you can find me. I co host the

1182
00:59:33.079 --> 00:59:37.119
<v Speaker 3>Night Mister Walters Taxi podcast with my esteem colleague here,

1183
00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:38.719
<v Speaker 3>my man father Malone.

1184
00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm on that show. You should go check that

1185
00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:42.000
<v Speaker 2>show out if you haven't listened to it. The Night

1186
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:44.280
<v Speaker 2>mister Walker. Even if you don't like Taxi, we're funny.

1187
00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:45.840
<v Speaker 4>It's good stuff.

1188
00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:50.079
<v Speaker 3>We I also host the Noise Junkies music podcast when

1189
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:53.119
<v Speaker 3>the mood strikes. I am an occasional guest also on

1190
00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:57.239
<v Speaker 3>the Culture Cast with Christashu and I have a band

1191
00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:00.000
<v Speaker 3>camp site HP music Place dot band camp.

1192
01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:04.039
<v Speaker 2>As for me, you're listening to it here, folks, patrons,

1193
01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:06.679
<v Speaker 2>you're listening to it wave before anybody else. So thank

1194
01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:10.440
<v Speaker 2>you very much for your patronage. It is more than appreciated.

1195
01:00:10.639 --> 01:00:14.400
<v Speaker 2>We've got fests going on everybody. We're still working through

1196
01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:18.000
<v Speaker 2>our Predator Fest, our Yahoucha Fest as it were. Another

1197
01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:20.440
<v Speaker 2>one should be up on the Patreon channel as well

1198
01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:24.000
<v Speaker 2>right now. And we're starting a Moranus Fest, starting a

1199
01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Books of Blood Fest. We've got a lot of fests

1200
01:00:26.360 --> 01:00:29.079
<v Speaker 2>coming up, folks, in addition to the Weekly round Up,

1201
01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:31.119
<v Speaker 2>which is on every Monday. Thank you everybody for tuning

1202
01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:34.360
<v Speaker 2>into Weekly round Up and keep your letters coming, and

1203
01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:36.199
<v Speaker 2>I hope to hear from you again soon. And I

1204
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:38.519
<v Speaker 2>guess we're gonna leave with a Oh, We're gonna leave

1205
01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:44.039
<v Speaker 2>with something really fucking cool from FM, or we might

1206
01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:45.440
<v Speaker 2>just put some Lindaranstadt on here.

1207
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:45.719
<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

1208
01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:46.599
<v Speaker 2>I haven't decided yet.

1209
01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:48.239
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

1210
01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:50.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to copyright Striker now, I don't know.

1211
01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:50.679
<v Speaker 4>Here we go.

1212
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:54.760
<v Speaker 1>No, isn't that just so so hot? Yeah?

1213
01:00:54.800 --> 01:00:57.840
<v Speaker 6>This is mother telling you if you find it, oh

1214
01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:00.199
<v Speaker 6>you got it, then you just better keep that.

1215
01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Now, what you think about that?