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Speaker 3: We're gonna get you updated on all the news and

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notes coming out of Brigham and talk bou basketball, obviously

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Boa football. We have some coaching official hires. Now we

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have a new cornerbacks coach. You thought it was tomorrow,

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warnon now, not so fast. I told you cougarnation. There

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could be a situation where a cornerbacks coach comes in

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trains up those corners and Tomrio moves over to the

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safety's room, and that's what was what came about. So

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we have a couple of new coaches that are either

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coming to BYU or there's coaches that we're already at

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BYU that are.

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Speaker 4: Getting elevated internally.

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Speaker 3: They're getting elevated to special teams coordinator, getting elevated to

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outside edge coach. So all that and more, we're gonna

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break it all down what it means for BYU football.

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But we got to talk a lot of hoop today

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coming off a disappointing loss on the road. Look, a

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loss at five Allen is not a bad loss. They

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were not favored. BLA is going to be favored in

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I think nine out of the last ten games, and

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most likely they're gonna win those games. You know, the

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question to me is about seeding, and we'll discuss that.

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But are you nervous? Are you at all concerned about

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this BAU basketball team. It's February second. They have gone

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down by twenty points in four or five of these games.

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Sometimes they roar back and make it, you know, more

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often not they make it respectable. Sometimes they win, more

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often when they go down twenty they lose. Is this

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enough data to tell you there's something amiss, there's something awry?

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Speaker 4: Are you fretting?

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Speaker 3: Are you a little bit concerned about Cougar basketball right now?

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to get us for this beautiful Monday, February second edition

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of Cougar Sports. Let's welcome in Cougar Sports Insider. He's

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taking a producer, our quarterback of the show. Let's welcome

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in the one the Only Ronald, the three man Weaver.

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Speaker 4: What's up, Ronnie?

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Speaker 5: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Ben?

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Speaker 6: I'm just gonna get it out the way now. Not

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a hot take at all. I think everybody, for the

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most part, can agree with it. And this is at

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this moment in time, February second, two oh three pm.

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I don't want people thinking I'm saying this for the Sea.

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This is not an elite A team. This is a

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Sweet sixteen team. That's what it is. They got ten

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games to figure it out. But at this point in time,

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this team is not competing for a Final four with

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what has occurred. And I think we have a lot

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of data points. You say we need three, we have

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more than three. And that's just what it is.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 6: They can change it. I have faith that they can,

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that they'll be able to do it. But as we

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sit today, Ben, That's what it is.

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Speaker 4: It is what it is.

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Speaker 3: Ronald the three man Weaver will be with us throughout

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the beautiful show. Let's also welcome in Brett always bringing

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Speaker 4: What's up, Buddy?

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Speaker 1: I wish I wasn't this fascinated by this story, but

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I started doing some digging on the good old Pooka

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and Nakua story because he's been like the biggest story

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on the internet.

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Speaker 4: Over the weekend. I don't know if you saw this, Ben.

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Speaker 1: Shooting his shot with one of the biggest stars in

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Hollywood right now in Sydney.

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Speaker 4: Sweeney.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did see this, which is funny because is

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like two hours I guess prior. Again, I wish I

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didn't know this, but I looked up Phokaakua and the

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can do whatever he wants. But you know what, shots

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Pookinakua for shooting a shot.

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Speaker 3: Hey, he's really into mountain climbing or hiking.

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Speaker 4: He said, Scott skydive, skydiving. He's an athlete. What is

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it that Sydney Swinney's looking for, By the way, yeah, she.

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Speaker 1: Said she wants an outdoorsman type someone can go hiking,

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do that stuff. And then yeah, he tweeted out love skydiving.

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I don't know about you. I've never been skydiving. I'm

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not sure if I could do it. Pooka's clearly not

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afraid of anything. I don't know about where we're at

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as far as like ESPN, the fan uh, temperature tests, like,

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where's everybody out with skydiving.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I could. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, you know, you know when you're on

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a roller coaster and you get to the very top

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like if we have any listeners who like skydiving. I'm

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curious though, Like, have either one of you guys jumped

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you think like that doesn't scare you at all, right,

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the roller coaster.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, my sister in law has jumped out of a planet.

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Many of my other friends and people for my mission.

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Speaker 4: I like that rush.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a nice want to fill, fill alive, make

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you make you get the all the biochemical responses.

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Speaker 4: I'm like a fight or flight type of mechanism. Yeah,

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getting basic with it. Yeah, what's that like? When that

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Speaker 1: When you've just jumped so many times that it's like

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Speaker 4: You to just jump out of a plane.

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Speaker 3: So what happens a lot of people are always looking

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for the dopamine. It can be addictive and look, I'll

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running out in front of sixty thousand fans, being on

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national television performing in a modern day gladiatorial arena.

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Speaker 4: It's a high, bro, It's a high. Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean you like and especially with this to a

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point where it wasn't a high or like it was

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always no, no, it's a high.

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Speaker 3: But the problem is when you come off the high

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Speaker 4: Do the high. It's depressing. The transition from.

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Speaker 3: Being a even at like even at a high school level.

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Right if you were like a good high school football

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player and you're like popular and your identity is intertwined

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with it and there's validation, and all of a sudden

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you don't play anymore. You're like, all right, now I'm

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going to trade school or now I'm going to the

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university and I'm gonna study advertising and marketing or social

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Speaker 4: Like whatever, Like there's gonna be a drop off. You're like, man,

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I don't get to do that anymore. I don't get

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Speaker 3: But it's a significant drop when you've especially now that

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you're making money. The biggest concern is, like you're making

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a ton of money, You're you're hyper focused on that

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modern day gladiatorial entity that is yourself, right, and like

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you know that platform in the high and then you

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just have this steep drop and you don't have any

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Speaker 4: But that's just so everybody knows.

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Speaker 3: That's been an issue forever for college football players because

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the amount of time you're spending in football was still

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the same as it is now. You just weren't getting paid,

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you were just getting a scholarship. Everyone's like, well, it's

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ruining the sport. I'm like no, and it's gonna ruin

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these players. I'm like, look, it's always been that way because,

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like my name, I used to tell my teachers this

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all the time, like, hey, I need to turn this

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project late because I have this big game.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be on ESPN.

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Speaker 3: I would rather take a C plus on this paper

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and turn in it late and get a deduction of

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twenty points than not allocate the time necessary. That he

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is associated with my name, No one's gonna remember what

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my grade was there in psych one oh one. Everyone's

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gonna remember if I was able to d up the

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wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: Everyone's gonna know in Cougarnation and on ESPN that's true.

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Speaker 3: So like when Bronco Menenhall when we was all said

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and done and he like a bunch of former players

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came back and he was introducing all these players to

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the current team. And it came to me and he said,

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this is Ben Krittle, former Boa defensive back. He never

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got beat and always made the tackle.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean. So to me, if.

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Speaker 3: That that was more important than getting a C plus,

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and when you really think of it that way, it's like,

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oh wow, Like yeah, that's a lot of freaking pressure.

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Your legacy is intertwined with how you play. Does that

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 3: And and so there's a you know, going back to

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like preparation and like the anxiety leading up to it,

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and then you have the high you play well, you

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win your top twenty five, eleven and two both your's

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top ten in defense. It's like, you know, I I

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remember when the drop happened. I'm like, now I gotta

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go work the dm E world and sell durable medical equipment.

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Speaker 4: I'm like this sucks, you know now I love it

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right right? I love it now. But like it's like

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Speaker 3: So anyway, it started off with skydiving Sydney Sweeney and

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Puka Nakua. Pooka akup is at an all time high.

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Now he's about to get his contract renewed. He can

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date anybody he wants. He's dynamics and Pooka has always

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Speaker 4: And but the rest of the world didn't know, and

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it was just us that knew it, just us. It

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Speaker 3: Now it's BYU fans that new And then now the

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world knows, Yeah, Pooka, and he's he's willing to shoot

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Speaker 4: He's always been willing to shoot his shot.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it's pretty incredible when you can, like

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when you get to like I call it like Oprah

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Speaker 4: He doesn't go Nobody calls him Pooka Nakula. It's just Pooka.

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Speaker 1: And I would be curious, like, I don't know how

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Speaker 4: I'd be curious where.

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Speaker 1: Pooka ranks on that list, because my guess is he

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Speaker 3: He's mister popular that he wants to be popular. All right, guys,

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Speaker 3: All right, So before we get to the sound and

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break this game down, BYU basketball fell to the Mighty

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Speaker 4: Fog Allen Arena.

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Speaker 3: It was disappointing right BYU is the it seems like

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BYU from a like a.

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Speaker 4: You know from a.

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Speaker 3: Conference affiliation standpoint, the elite college basketball conferences, they're the

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worst first half team in that tier, your upper tier

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basketball teams. Okay, across all of your power conferences. In

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basketball BYU last week was like seventieth in the first half,

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and they're probably right around there or worse than that.

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Speaker 4: They're the number one.

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Speaker 3: Team as far as efficiency metrics are concerned in college

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basketball in the second half, and they showcased that once again.

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That is what I've been complaining about since the beginning

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of the season. I'm like, we are so bad in

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the first half. Why are we bad in the first half? Obviously,

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we want to highlight the good rather than just start

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off with the ugly. Obviously, Saunders was remarkable. Todd King

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was fantastic, as Kay Why said, and we'll listen to it.

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He was the best player on the court.

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Speaker 4: In his opinion.

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Speaker 3: Now, we didn't see Darren Peterson in the second half, right,

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get a taste of the glory. We know what probably

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would have happened. Darren Peterson was doing whatever he wanted.

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or not he actually Ike's basketball, whether or not his

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agent is telling him don't play this much, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: They have so weird.

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Speaker 3: They have no idea what's going on in Lawrence with

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Darren Peterson. They'd like to see him more than eighteen

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minutes a game, but they're only seeing him eighteen minutes game,

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and they're only seeing half of that half of the

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games with eighteen minutes. Anyway, Saunders that Todd King had

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a career high thirty three points.

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Speaker 4: Twenty four of those.

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Speaker 3: Came in the second half BYU, once again trailing by

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twenty at halftime, BYU ended up out scoring Kansas forty

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nine to thirty seven in the second half, led by Saunders.

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Speaker 4: Obviously.

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Speaker 3: The senior went seven to eleven for the field, including

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five to three pointers in the second half. Saunders earned

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his fourth career double double with his career high thirty

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three points and ten rebounds. He had to assist two

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steals and one block right right at the third and

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AJ Devonsa finished with eighteen and seventeen respectively. The duo

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each made two shots from three and right the third

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also quarter six rebounds. De Bonsa had seventeen points and

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it marked the third longest street to to start a

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career in Big twelve history.

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Speaker 4: Shout up to him.

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Speaker 3: Kebecata posts a nine rebounds or nine points, seven rebounds,

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two blocks, and one steal. Uh, and that that was

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pretty much it. I think we had three points coming

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off the bench. We don't have a bench like we

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just don't have any scores on the bench. No one

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has any sort of proficiency off the bench. Cannard Davis

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Junior went cold. Uh, and uh, you know you're missing

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issue as well. So the defensive scheme versus elite talent

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right now is uh is porous. It is not good enough.

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half closing out on shooters.

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Speaker 4: And and and and and.

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Speaker 3: Switching maybe rather than maybe fighting through your perimeter pimeter screens.

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And so they got to figure out something. The defensive

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coordinator right now for BYU is going to continue to

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see some scrutiny with his his schematics employed. That's the

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issue right now for BYU basketball. So let's get into it.

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How about we get into a few sound bites and

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read between the lines here on your Utah ESPN Radio

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Network postgame commentary. Coach, can you put a finger on

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your first half struggles?

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Speaker 7: Most of our struggles in the first half it have

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been execution related.

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Speaker 8: I didn't think that was the case tonight. You know,

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they were.

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Speaker 7: It's hard to overcome nine to twelve from three. You know,

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you have to get Bryson a lot of credit. I

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think he hadn't made too many threes on the year,

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and you know, we were going to make him prove it,

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which he.

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Speaker 8: Did and we adjusted. Excuse me, but it wasn't just him.

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I mean, like I said, as a team.

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Speaker 7: They go nine to twelve from three, so and we

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were we were what were we like?

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Speaker 8: Four sixteen? I think so.

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Speaker 7: I mean I've examined it eight different ways to the

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moon and back.

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Speaker 8: And at the end of the day, is shot making.

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Speaker 7: We were shooting a three at a much higher clip

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in the second half than we are the first, and.

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Speaker 8: That's something that you really can't necessarily fix.

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Speaker 7: It's more about just trying to make sure you're executing,

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which I thought tonight we did for the most part

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in the first that but like I said, the shot

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making out of them was remarkable, So.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, buy in or selling the rhetoric that he just

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dropped on you. Look, you said that it's been execution based.

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The issues up to this point have been execution based.

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Agreer disagree with that assessment. Brett I was bringing the hammer,

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Ronald the three man weaver, you give up, you go

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second here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's very similar to what he said.

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I think media availability last week, he's like, the truth

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is we're just not executing in the first half. He's

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that we're making too many mistakes early in games and

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that's why we go down early.

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Speaker 4: I do buy it. I just think it almost feels

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like I don't know if this.

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Speaker 1: Is true or not, but I remember in high school

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saying a lot that I felt like I just worked

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on assignments better when they were due the next night.

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Speaker 4: And again I don't know if that's true or not.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was just because I was a big procrastinator,

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but like, I think a lot of us grew up

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that way. Again, especially if you played sports and you

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were busy, like I'll just do it the night before.

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I kind of think that's how this bou basketball team

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operates where like they don't have the firepower, they don't

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have help from other guys. And so I think when

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you play at Kansas or Utah, whoever, you play like

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their defensive game plan is just effective in the first half.

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blitzing AJ every time. So if you want to let

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Rob and Richie score, that's fine, but we're gonna blitz

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AJ in that first half.

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Speaker 4: So then they get down and then I think.

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Speaker 1: What happens is and you've seen this now against Kansas

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and against Arizona, it's like, all right, shoot, well, I

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guess we just got to start shooting the lights out

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in the second half and just play like our lives

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depend on it and just go full adrenaline mode in

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order to get.

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Speaker 4: Back in the game. And that's how they operate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I don't part of me is like, well,

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can you find a way to find that adrenaline in

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the first half.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean to me, day or night. What it comes

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down to is you don't have any help. There were

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three points that you mentioned scored off the bench, and

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you know how that three points came. It was from

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us finding out that Hadem Boop could apparently hit a

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three point shot, which was not on my twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: Six Big Old can hit that wide open. I mean,

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I'm not gonna lie. It didn't look bad.

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Speaker 3: I like rebound, and I like his perimeter defense, and

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he can actually his post defense is really strong too.

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So he's a guy that can he can essentially cover

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you know, two through four right right, like he can

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cover two through four, which you like on some of

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that switch ball screen action.

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Speaker 4: His shot was not ugly.

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Speaker 1: My guess is if he could shoot it at a

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higher clip, we would see him shooting it at a

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higher clip. But the point being exactly, but the point being,

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you had three points off the bench, and it was

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a haidem Boop three pointer.

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Speaker 4: It was it was over.

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Speaker 1: Four, I think from three for Kinnard, and I just think,

476
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,880
I don't know, You're You're putting a J. Robin Ritchie

477
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,160
in a really tight spot because I don't feel like

478
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,000
they have any help to go.

479
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 4: To on any of these possessions.

480
00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 3: Ronald the three man we were buying or selling the

481
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,960
rhetoric post game and even you know the issues that

482
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,240
we've experienced in the first half over the season.

483
00:22:38,319 --> 00:22:40,759
Speaker 6: Well, you have to buy it obviously because been I mean,

484
00:22:40,839 --> 00:22:43,519
it's it's plagued him and there's facts.

485
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 5: And his data.

486
00:22:44,279 --> 00:22:46,799
Speaker 6: But what I'm not buying is the last part. What

487
00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:49,279
do you mean you can't fix it? What are you

488
00:22:49,319 --> 00:22:49,799
talking about?

489
00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:50,079
Speaker 5: Coach?

490
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 6: Like you fixed it last year when he went on

491
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,599
a nine game winnister like that. That's the comment that

492
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,240
I'm looking concerned of. What don't tell me you can't.

493
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,319
Speaker 4: He's saying that, He's said, we're just.

494
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,039
Speaker 5: It's like, well, and I mean, I'm gonna pull it back.

495
00:23:04,319 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put I'm gonna because I don't think he's

496
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,279
said we can't fix it right.

497
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 6: Well, when he's talking about execution and just how it's

498
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,359
going to him threes, he's saying, oh, you know you

499
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,680
can't you know, not specifically the team can't fix the struggles,

500
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,279
but the shots not falling, And I disagree. I disagree

501
00:23:21,279 --> 00:23:23,759
with the execution of how it's yes, you can, like

502
00:23:23,799 --> 00:23:26,720
you know how it can? Did you everybody watched the

503
00:23:26,759 --> 00:23:29,720
second half? Did we see number fifteen in blue or

504
00:23:29,759 --> 00:23:31,519
you know or dark Navy or whatever is go for

505
00:23:31,559 --> 00:23:34,319
twenty four points seven of eleven five and nine from three,

506
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,839
Like did you see that? Did you see him go

507
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,880
lay up? Did you see him go rebound?

508
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 5: Block? And one three?

509
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 6: So don't no, no, no, Like, I don't know what it takes, honestly,

510
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,039
but this is something has to get connected, Ben, But

511
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:53,200
I feel that they can because there's and Kevin is

512
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,920
gonna tease it of the second half numbers. I just

513
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,400
believe the guys plan aren't doing it. I just believe

514
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,200
that's what it comes down to it. And it's the

515
00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:02,119
three headed you know, dragon that you have to give

516
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,240
them the most accountability to because they're taking the shots.

517
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,960
But something's not right between Aj, Rob and Richie. I

518
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,759
think for that part, you know, guys coming in. We

519
00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:12,359
can't put this on Canard. Yeah, he misses the shot

520
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,119
he takes. But for the most part, what's going on

521
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,000
with the three bit, with the with the brick three,

522
00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:19,319
they're not getting it done. And those are the guys

523
00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:21,640
like Richie's a plus twelve in efficiency in the first

524
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,119
half and a plus twenty five, so you need better playing.

525
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,680
Richie didn't play bad in the first halve. He is

526
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,200
four of eight, one to five from three. But this

527
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,400
is where I say, okay, Aj didn't play the way

528
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,960
he should have in the first half. I think accountability

529
00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:35,680
has to start coming towards the players because I feel

530
00:24:35,759 --> 00:24:38,759
Kevin and staff is doing a good job. But when

531
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,359
Kevin's not out there playing Ben the defense, that's bad.

532
00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:43,960
Cannar picking up two quick fouls is that on Kevin.

533
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,000
I'm pretty sure Kevin them are saying, don't get in

534
00:24:46,039 --> 00:24:48,440
foul trouble. So what do you do at that point?

535
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,400
When he gets in foul trouble? You have to bench him,

536
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,440
you have to bring in a different body. So I mean,

537
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,880
I don't know what you need to do at that point.

538
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,599
We talked about maybe bringing Canard in as a six

539
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:57,640
man last week when.

540
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 5: You were out. I don't think they're going to do that.

541
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 6: But if if it's not working, then when do you

542
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,920
start having You know, like when Cannon wasn't playing well

543
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,039
last year, you made a switch. They have guys injured

544
00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:09,920
that they didn't have last year. They had available guys,

545
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,240
and they're really missing with what mag and trevn Nill

546
00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:14,480
and those type of guys and Trey Stewart's But where's

547
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,200
the accountability portion with the player's been Because at this point,

548
00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:19,160
I'm not looking at the coaches. I'm looking at the

549
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,400
players like, you guys, aren't the ones getting done because

550
00:25:21,559 --> 00:25:23,359
the coaches, I feel like are telling you this. I

551
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,880
feel like they're just not getting it done.

552
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 4: Now, let's continue down. Did you want to chime in?

553
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ron and I had this conversation this morning and like,

554
00:25:32,039 --> 00:25:35,799
we agree, but we also disagree because it's just hard.

555
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,279
I do agree there needs to be accountability, but I

556
00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:40,519
don't think the Big three are the ones who are

557
00:25:40,519 --> 00:25:43,359
owed accountability. I think the ones who we need accountability

558
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,519
from are guys like me, Hilo, our guys like Alexi,

559
00:25:46,599 --> 00:25:50,680
our guys like Kennard, are guys like literally anyone else

560
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,599
on this team who could score a basket, and they're

561
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,240
not because I realized it's not a beautiful performance.

562
00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:56,279
Speaker 4: It's not a forty piece.

563
00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:59,079
Speaker 1: But Richie had thirty three, aj I had seventeen, and

564
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,160
Robert I had eighteen, all of which are very good

565
00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:06,640
in college basketball. And I do think, like I heard

566
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,400
a lot of fans this week like what we need

567
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,279
more ball movement, we need no more distributing, and and

568
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,039
my pushback is, who's he distributing? Who's Rob Wright gonna

569
00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:16,599
pass the ball to? I know a lot of people

570
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,720
don't like Rob Wright doing this bullyball. I'm just gonna

571
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,119
try and get to the rack. And we saw him

572
00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:24,559
get up, get an offensive foul and yet swatted a

573
00:26:24,599 --> 00:26:27,160
couple of times. I get that that's not pretty. Who's

574
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,839
he passing to? Canard goes zero for four from three?

575
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,400
Alexi can't hit the broadside of a barn either. It's like,

576
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,200
I don't know that it's Canar. I don't know that

577
00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:38,240
it's Rob Ritchie or AJ's fault, because I don't feel

578
00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:40,039
like they have a whole lot of options other than

579
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,359
just say, all right, well, I guess somebody's got to

580
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,279
go for forty tonight in order for us to win

581
00:26:44,279 --> 00:26:44,759
this game.

582
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 3: Let me chime in on a couple of things here.

583
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,799
I'm gonna give you. I'll give you a few multifactorial things.

584
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,000
What you're seeing right now as we've transitioned to the

585
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,279
Big twelve. The Big twelve reps do not give the

586
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,200
equivalency of calls to AJ that he was getting in

587
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:58,720
non conference.

588
00:26:58,759 --> 00:27:00,799
Speaker 4: Therefore, he's not getting to the free throw line as much.

589
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 3: And furthermore, he's not a he's a sixty. He's like

590
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,680
a sixty five percent free throw shooter, so like he's

591
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,319
not getting as many calls and he's just not and

592
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,319
he's not getting the hipchecks. He's not getting, you know,

593
00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:16,880
when he gets in to the lane or he's on

594
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,799
the kind of the extended block when he's driving, he's

595
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,160
he these are fouls. They'll be fouls in the NCAA tournament,

596
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,680
just so everybody know. I think they're gonna be fouls,

597
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:31,039
especially early on in the tournament, before you get to

598
00:27:31,079 --> 00:27:34,640
the sweet sixteen. I guarantee you that he's gonna get

599
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,160
to the line. So I look at that and like AJ,

600
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,440
a lot of these guys, I remember Jim Or getting

601
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,440
into a groove through getting to.

602
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 4: The free throw line.

603
00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 3: I saw Steve Nash do it growing up all the

604
00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:48,559
time in Phoenix, where he'd get fouled, he get to

605
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:50,640
the free throw line and then he just goes off

606
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,200
after he finds his stroke in rhythm and game. So anyways,

607
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,000
I had that thought in this game, and I'm like AJ,

608
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,559
when he goes off, he's typically getting to the free

609
00:28:01,559 --> 00:28:03,759
throw line early and finding his stroke and then you'll

610
00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:05,440
see him hit from outside.

611
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 4: Anyway, that's a side my guy Keith paying me on this.

612
00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:14,319
Speaker 3: It seems to me that in every second half we

613
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,200
make the adjustments at halftime. The problem might be the

614
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,720
game planning coming in. They're trying to do too many

615
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:22,319
cute things instead of just playing basketball. I do think

616
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,279
there's an element of self stick scout right now with BYU.

617
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,200
I think not only they're scouting and self scout. So

618
00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:33,279
it's a combo of both. What is it that others

619
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:36,839
are seeing about us and what are we seeing with them?

620
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,000
What are they going to do in the first half?

621
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,279
And we seem to be a little bit off kilter there,

622
00:28:43,319 --> 00:28:47,400
and some people will lean on the coaches because of

623
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,279
that scout, and some people just say, look, the players

624
00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:55,119
just don't they're not invested in that first half. There's

625
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,680
a conversation there as well.

626
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 4: They don't seem like they're closing out. They don't.

627
00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:00,119
Speaker 3: There's not as much of a sense of urgent and

628
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,519
see And you know, I don't know when you ask

629
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,880
me this, are you worried?

630
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 4: Ben? I'm not as worried.

631
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 3: As the rest of Kugarnation right now because I think, Kate,

632
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,599
this is the same thing that happened last year. It

633
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,319
was a bit of a rope adope for me. I'm

634
00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:18,079
like dude, I am concerned about X, Y, and Z.

635
00:29:18,319 --> 00:29:21,039
I'm concerned about Yegor not being able to hit. I'm

636
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,799
worried about his supporting cast not hitting. Because even Trevin

637
00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:27,480
had like a lull you know with his you know,

638
00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:31,160
his catch and shoot, and there were other guys like

639
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,039
like there were times where mag was good and sometimes

640
00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:36,480
he wasn't and you were looking for a role, We're like, hey,

641
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,559
who's going to be that guy? Remember what trended in

642
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,799
January into getting more pt because what who was the

643
00:29:43,839 --> 00:29:48,400
guy who was the dude, the supremely talented young man

644
00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:53,519
that is now at Uhia in the sect at Georgia

645
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,480
Cannon Ketchens. Remember it was Cannon that was the guy,

646
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,440
and then Mo what overtook him? So I don't know

647
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,880
if we're gonna have a similar situation like that where

648
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,039
someone's gonna figure it out. I don't know if AdeM's

649
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:07,880
gonna figure it out, you know what I mean, all

650
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,799
of a sudden, he's that three and D guy.

651
00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:11,119
Speaker 4: His mechanics are off.

652
00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:14,839
Speaker 3: Maybe not, But all I'm saying is I feel like

653
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:21,720
this coaching staff knows something that we don't. They know

654
00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:24,000
load management. That's all they've been doing for all their

655
00:30:24,039 --> 00:30:27,039
lives is load management and to know how to peak late.

656
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,799
Speaker 4: The story of BAU basketball.

657
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: Many times over the years has been BYU has great

658
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,720
offseasons because they have great culture and guys put in

659
00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:40,240
the work, and so they win early.

660
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 4: They win often.

661
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,599
Speaker 3: You get into March and when everybody else is trending

662
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,440
and you're you've plateaued. This was the like, that was

663
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,200
one of the first years that I've ever seen in

664
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,160
BA basketball history, minus the Elite eight, because that Elite

665
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,440
eight team with Danny Age and Greg Kaid and Roberts, Like,

666
00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:00,240
they weren't a great regular season team. They're okay, they

667
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,440
got a good seed. They got solity because they were talented.

668
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:02,799
Speaker 4: They were good.

669
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:04,559
Speaker 3: They had some good wins, but it's not like they

670
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:08,720
were like four lost team going in and a three seed.

671
00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:10,839
Speaker 4: No, they like they won some games.

672
00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 3: They beat Notre Dame like they I mean, look, I

673
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,319
wasn't at those games, but I have box scores, I

674
00:31:16,319 --> 00:31:17,039
have highlights.

675
00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:19,039
Speaker 4: I could see like what they did and how they

676
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:19,359
did it.

677
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: They were trending in the right direction late February and

678
00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:25,079
early March.

679
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,319
Speaker 4: I'm not as worried.

680
00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 3: As everybody else right now because I think that this

681
00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:33,920
coaching staff's going to figure out how to trend, how

682
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:39,440
to crescendo into the latter end of this season, this schedule.

683
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,279
Speaker 4: That's where I'm at. We'll continue to discussion.

684
00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:44,599
Speaker 3: Let's go to break, guys, we'll get back to the

685
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,720
sound AJ Richie Saunders, Kevin Young postgame commentary by you

686
00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:50,839
made it respectable?

687
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,799
Speaker 4: They got within four ninety to eighty two.

688
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: Is the loss on the road versus Kansas half perspective.

689
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,079
Speaker 4: They were dogs here.

690
00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: They were dogs versus I think Tech, they were dogs

691
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,200
versus Yukon they were dogs versus u of A.

692
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 4: They're favored. Ken Pom's pretty good, he's pretty studway.

693
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll get Ken palm On on the line this

694
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,759
week to give us a little bit of positivity. But

695
00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:16,920
I think Bau's favorite in not out of the last

696
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,400
ten games, So I think we're gonna be okay.

697
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 4: It would it be nice to be a three seed? Yes?

698
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:23,240
Will you get a three seed?

699
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: Maybe not if you if you lose one more game,

700
00:32:26,279 --> 00:32:28,039
we'll see you how it lays out. But if you,

701
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,720
if you trend in the right direction with that momentum,

702
00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:34,599
Remember that momentum, along with the resume, could also determine

703
00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:35,200
a better.

704
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,559
Speaker 4: Seed, especially with the Big twelve tournament too.

705
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,039
Speaker 3: If you if you go deep, you get to the

706
00:32:40,119 --> 00:32:43,799
championship game, you could be sitting pretty in that three

707
00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:46,880
seed as well. So not all is lost. Don't don't worry,

708
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,640
be happy. Let's go to break. That's your nitty gritty

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gonna get back to the soundbites. B YU basketball fell to.

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Speaker 4: Kansas's ninety to eighty two.

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Speaker 3: It was unfortunate, uh but uh Villa continues to prove

755
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that they are the best second half team at college basketball.

756
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:19,920
Like if you're gonna talk silver linings, like, look, they

757
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,320
are freaking amazing in the second half. They always bounce back,

758
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,960
they always find a way, and and you know, if

759
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you're gonna retort that, you're saying, well, Darren Peterson didn't play.

760
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,320
I get it one hundred percent that they were still

761
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getting buckets. Darren's a good defender. But I wouldn't think, like,

762
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you know what I mean, like they were. They scored

763
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at a high rate, forty nine points to the second half. Okay,

764
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so they gave it fifty three.

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Speaker 4: Though in the first they couldn't They couldn't guard anything,

766
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,559
and Kansas was hitting shots and there were some contested

767
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:51,719
shots there that they were hitting it. But they're at

768
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their home court. They shot field. That's what I'm saying.

769
00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:57,519
It's like so like it wasn't like they just bent over.

770
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Speaker 1: They had three guys scoring double figures in the sound half,

771
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,800
none of whom were Darren Peterson.

772
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Speaker 5: Pretty nine to twelve from three in the first half

773
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is nuts, though.

774
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty nuts, pretty nuts. K Why let's

775
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,199
get into this. How do you feel? How did you

776
00:36:10,199 --> 00:36:12,400
feel that aj played in this game with all the

777
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,440
outside noise leading up to it.

778
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Speaker 7: I thought he was okay, you know, I thought he

779
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,159
thought he was holding the ball a little too much

780
00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:21,039
in the first half.

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Speaker 8: I thought it was a little bit better in the

782
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:23,559
second half.

783
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:25,639
Speaker 7: He was driving, getting into his spots either for some

784
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:27,320
of those turnarounds or I thought he did a good

785
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:32,320
job of kicking the basketball out. But you know, and

786
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,159
I'm not I'm not crying over spilled milk, but I mean,

787
00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:37,960
the guy leads the country pretty much in foul's drone. Yeah,

788
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got to the line four times, and I thought it

789
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,960
thought there was plenty of times where he could have been.

790
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Speaker 8: Fouled that they missed and that's life. You gotta keep playing.

791
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,519
But you know, all in all, it was it was,

792
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it was, it.

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Speaker 7: Was I thought a game for him that he handled

794
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:56,280
well relative to like all the outside noise.

795
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: Pe okay, I I feel like narratively connoitatively, it's like

796
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,880
man Aj didn't have a good game, but like if

797
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,400
you look at the stat sheet, he had seventeen points,

798
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,679
he shot fifty percent from the field, He went two

799
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,719
for four from three, like he again he had one rebound,

800
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,760
one assist. So in that department he wasn't necessarily great

801
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,480
on the extra spots on the floor. But like when

802
00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:25,800
it came to him getting his job done and his

803
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,280
getting his points on the board, he did it and

804
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,800
he did it efficiently. It's just tough that he Again

805
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,960
we talked about slow starts. I think his first shot

806
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,440
attempt was I want to say, seven minutes into the game.

807
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So that's probably where it hurts you. I don't know

808
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,199
if it was because Kennar got in foul trouble early

809
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and so then he had to be on Darren and

810
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,639
instead of trying to get his own he was focused

811
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on Peterson. I don't know what the issue was, but

812
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I think it was a slow start that made it

813
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look worse than it really was.

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Speaker 4: Rodnie, your thought you were com Terry.

815
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

816
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Speaker 6: Look, I've looked at this this tape and I've gone

817
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,440
back and Canar got the two quick foulsy at three

818
00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:11,239
in the first half, and look, been Kevin Young is

819
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,159
the foundation is NBA? Go watch the NBA now until

820
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:16,440
you get the playoff basketball.

821
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Speaker 5: Pretty much you don't.

822
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Speaker 6: Really want to put your best player on the other

823
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,760
player because of foul trouble. And with the struggles they're

824
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,159
having in the first half of AJ gets in foul trip,

825
00:38:24,159 --> 00:38:25,800
maybe that's why he was a little bit more slower

826
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with his defense.

827
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Speaker 5: Don't know what the reason was.

828
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:29,639
Speaker 6: Sometimes I felt like the body language he wasn't engaged

829
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,360
in the first half, and it's like, I'm not buying

830
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into this narrative of one versus two.

831
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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna play ball.

832
00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:36,039
Speaker 6: But anyway, the point that I'm bringing up is when

833
00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:38,840
Canar got in foul trouble, that's when AJ had to

834
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guard Darren because they had Richie, you know, on counsel

835
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and white like so that that that that's where it made.

836
00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:46,360
It's tough, and they hide Rob in the corner. I'm

837
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,400
getting to some schematic things, but I want to point

838
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,679
this out for people, for people to see that that

839
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,719
doesn't happen. If Canard's in foul trouble, maybe Garran still cooks,

840
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,519
you know, regardless of who it is, I still think

841
00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:57,719
he would have scored if it was Aj or Canar.

842
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,159
But that's why AJ had to do that to guard,

843
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,000
you know, Darren that situation. Cannard put himself on the

844
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,760
bench and look, Cannard's gonna have to not get handsy

845
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,239
Ben or Brope, move his feet or not him check

846
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,119
because when you're on the road and you get in

847
00:39:11,159 --> 00:39:13,719
foul trouble, that's gonna limit your your rotation. That's gonna

848
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,239
put AJ after guard the best guy.

849
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:18,599
Speaker 1: I do want us to be completely accurate here, though, Ron,

850
00:39:18,639 --> 00:39:23,280
because I'm going through the first couple Kansas possessions and

851
00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:26,519
on these I've got through the first four possessions so far,

852
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:29,679
and those first four to start the game right from

853
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:34,960
jump ball, AJ Devonsa is chasing Darren Peterson everywhere, so

854
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,920
they whether it was switches again, I'm not watching the

855
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,079
entire whatever it was but they found a way to

856
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,400
get Darren on or to get AJ on Darren before

857
00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:49,039
Canard got into foul trouble, even though that did play

858
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:51,519
factor later in the game, Like they found a way

859
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:54,480
to get AJ on Darren Peterson and a lot of

860
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,800
these like he's following Darren early. It's not simply Cannard

861
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,599
switched and Darren just ended up on AJ, like AJ

862
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,920
was following Darren on a lot of these possessions early.

863
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,119
I wonder if there is just a little bit of

864
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:13,320
like there's just a rivalry here. And and I do

865
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,880
applaud AJ for saying, hey, I'm not ducking the smoke now.

866
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,840
Whether or not he needed to as a whole separate conversation,

867
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,800
I don't know that he needed to, but I do

868
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,000
applaud him for saying, hey, I'm going best on best

869
00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:29,159
because I'm not afraid of you. Unfortunately, Darren Peterson is

870
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,920
that good and was able to score on just about anybody.

871
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,480
It was in an indictment on AJ. Darren Peterson just

872
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,079
is that good.

873
00:40:38,199 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 3: Well, Darren is uh, you know, he's got quad cramping

874
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,960
issues and thank goodness for it.

875
00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 4: Well that's what they say, Yeah, that's what they're saying.

876
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:50,639
Speaker 5: I mean, I was gonna say this.

877
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: Look this associate AD may have said something else to

878
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,880
him because apparently he's not on the athletic director down

879
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,079
there on the sideline of the game.

880
00:40:57,119 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 5: I don't care about no AD has been out of this.

881
00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:59,760
I care about the experts.

882
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,079
Speaker 6: When the experts who do this, the draft analysts, the

883
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:04,760
guys that are respected are because normally Ben, you know

884
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,440
how it is when a guy gets injured. I mean, look,

885
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,360
I'm gonna go Jake Cutler bears back in the day

886
00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:10,280
when he had a little growing thing. What did he

887
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,119
get on He got on the bike right, he was

888
00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:14,360
trying to ride it, figured it out. You didn't see

889
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,480
this man hydrate. You didn't see this man get on

890
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:21,480
the bike. He don't care, you know why. And this

891
00:41:21,559 --> 00:41:23,280
is what I'm gonna say. And I would tell Darren

892
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,320
this to his face and his agents. Load managing college

893
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,639
basketball is embarrassing and it's pathetic, you know what.

894
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 4: That's how they got there.

895
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 5: But exactly.

896
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 3: Yes to Kansas, yep, off load management pitches and they're

897
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,400
gonna make a run in the n C Double A Tournament.

898
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,079
Don't get a twisted They're gonna be one of the

899
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:44,280
Big twelve tournament.

900
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 4: But like they're gonna load manage that dude.

901
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 3: And it's funny, Like some people are like there's a

902
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,800
there's a quote from uh in a meme that that

903
00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:00,719
that people have been circulating about this, but moneyball, it's

904
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,920
a Moneyball reference Billy and Bill Bean, if you guys

905
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:05,280
watched it.

906
00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 4: Billy, this is Darren Peterson.

907
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 3: He's six y five, two hundred pound pier score and

908
00:42:11,199 --> 00:42:15,639
is a matchup nightmare. Only problem is he hates playing basketball.

909
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,760
But he's talking about a baseball player and in the

910
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:24,480
Bill Beans story, right, and Uh, anyway, it's Moneyball.

911
00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 4: Great great great book, great film, et cetera. But uh,

912
00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:31,960
it's just like you wonder if he if he likes basketball.

913
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:32,719
I think he does.

914
00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 3: I think this is an agent conversation. That's why you

915
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,960
had the associate ad down there.

916
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,039
Speaker 4: That's why. Yeah, it's an odd thing.

917
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,199
Speaker 3: To see your associated out there during a time out

918
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,039
talking with him because that spells to me, it's like

919
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:54,519
that's an agent, uh relationship. That's that's being communicated, Like

920
00:42:54,679 --> 00:42:56,400
I taught you agent, you know what I mean that

921
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,119
And that's where we're getting at.

922
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,119
Speaker 4: I guess in this game, it's really unique.

923
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the weirdest part is that usually when

924
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,280
you see guys cramping, like they're making some kind of

925
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,800
effort to get back on the court, and it just

926
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,920
maybe we didn't see it when it was worth the game,

927
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,119
but no one who was at the game had anything

928
00:43:18,119 --> 00:43:20,800
to dispute it, Like it never really felt like Darren

929
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,480
was like doing things to try and get back on

930
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,639
the court. He looked like basically he was street closed

931
00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:29,679
away from just sitting out of the game, Like he

932
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,679
didn't really even even when they got up for timeouts,

933
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,679
like he was not the first guy up there high

934
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,760
five and everybody, he didn't really look that engaged. And

935
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,519
look when again heavy is the head who wears the crown, Like,

936
00:43:40,519 --> 00:43:42,760
when you're that good, you can get away with do

937
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,199
what you want when you pop into the words of

938
00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:44,639
the future.

939
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 4: But it's definitely a bad look. But can I just

940
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,360
say something though about Darren Peterson.

941
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 3: I'm like that man yamed on our two best shop

942
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,840
blockers at the same time when he went up, I

943
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,679
was like, this is a bad choice. I don't know

944
00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:02,679
why he's doing this. And it was an and one.

945
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:07,400
He got Mahilo's like tricep into his fame, but he

946
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,239
got like an arm pit like right into his mouth.

947
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,599
He probably you know what I mean, And I Kemba

948
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,679
like I don't know if Darren was just like going

949
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,400
so fast downhill that Keba, you don't see Keba like

950
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:28,280
miss you know, project like the launch point right the

951
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:36,360
high point, like you don't see Camba. What I'm saying

952
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,519
is though, like he's got pretty good ball awareness, He's

953
00:44:40,519 --> 00:44:45,039
got pretty good peripheral vision. Darren was coming down fast hard,

954
00:44:45,159 --> 00:44:47,760
and he like he came to the side.

955
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 4: Of the rim.

956
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 3: It wasn't a yam at an angle because if it

957
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,159
would have been a yam at An angle, you know

958
00:44:52,159 --> 00:44:55,280
what I mean by that, Yeah, like abrupt angle where

959
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,199
he's coming straight at He went to the side and

960
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,519
was like floating, you know, all like and like almost

961
00:45:01,519 --> 00:45:05,039
like the matrix and then yammed it around around him

962
00:45:05,039 --> 00:45:09,079
with that seven foot like that seven foot like wingspan

963
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,599
is he got like he got go go gadget arms,

964
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:13,119
you guys know, inspector gadget.

965
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,039
Speaker 4: I wonder, I wonder.

966
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,679
Speaker 1: If Keba like in his head was like there's no

967
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,719
way this dude's coming to dunk over here. He's not

968
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,719
He's not gonna do it, and so when he did,

969
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,079
he's like, oh, shoot this guy for that.

970
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 4: I don't know if Kevin's ever been yammed on like that.

971
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,880
I don't know Many.

972
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,079
Speaker 5: Twelve. Yeah, not at by U.

973
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,519
Speaker 4: Not at Brigham, not at Brigham. It hasn't happened. I

974
00:45:36,519 --> 00:45:38,199
can't believe he had the balls to do that.

975
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: Man, I cannot believe He's like, yeah, I got no

976
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:41,719
problem trying.

977
00:45:41,559 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 4: To do this.

978
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 6: I mean AJ trying to do in a Utah game.

979
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,760
He just got stuffed at the rim, I mean exact. So,

980
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,880
I mean I'm not surprised. I mean when you got

981
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,400
a poster, I mean when you ask these kids who

982
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,239
would you rather have, they all say baptism, Like I

983
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,280
can't remember and you have to recall it bread. But

984
00:45:55,639 --> 00:45:57,840
if if AJ told us that at the you know,

985
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,159
the Redmen's farms. But these kids don't want a step

986
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:03,920
back break ankle. They want a poster like you remember

987
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,039
that for the rest of your life. Yeah, like that

988
00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:09,360
that image, Ben, Like that picture, Like you don't have

989
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,000
a step back cross over picture. Ben, No one has,

990
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,920
you know, the NBA, but you know what you have

991
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,719
that dunk where Adidas can put on end debate like

992
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,320
that a picture like that, the only child's picture like that, Ben,

993
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,920
that speaks a thousand words. That's in the halls of

994
00:46:23,199 --> 00:46:25,760
BYU athletics, Like that's that dunk is gonna be in

995
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,719
the halls of Kansas Jayhawks athletics forever.

996
00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:30,119
Speaker 5: That dunk in that picture.

997
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:33,679
Speaker 6: So yeah, that post in college basketball, it was AJ's

998
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:34,239
until that point.

999
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, that's dunk of the year. When you baptize

1000
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:36,960
two people like that.

1001
00:46:37,039 --> 00:46:40,519
Speaker 6: And look, AJ got caught on the other screen, you know,

1002
00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:43,920
in game, and then Mihilo doesn't rotate fast enough, k

1003
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,159
doesn't drop them. Different guy tries to step up, and

1004
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,440
Darren again smart play reads it very fast, Ben and

1005
00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:52,400
just just slams it. And look, I'm going back right

1006
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,960
now watching the full game. I gotta give Bill self credit.

1007
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:55,519
Speaker 4: Ben.

1008
00:46:55,559 --> 00:46:58,599
Speaker 6: When AJ was guarding Darren in the beginning, they did

1009
00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:01,519
a very good job of moving the ball and then

1010
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:03,920
started Man and I don't want to pick on him,

1011
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,639
but like they target Rob and transition very well, and

1012
00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:09,800
they got Rob and Canardo on that. And then when

1013
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,360
Darren is doing that man and moving that fast and

1014
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,559
he gets underneath the free throw line, if you're a

1015
00:47:14,559 --> 00:47:16,599
step behind her, get caught on the screen, it's over

1016
00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:18,599
for you. And if you're not, I don't even want

1017
00:47:18,599 --> 00:47:20,039
to say six to ten. I can't even say that

1018
00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:23,159
that much because it's over at that point, you know,

1019
00:47:23,199 --> 00:47:25,079
because he can elevate or he can go to the rim,

1020
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,639
and if he can't block, I mean, he's just gonna

1021
00:47:27,639 --> 00:47:29,760
shoot right over you. So, I mean, Bill selfa did

1022
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,920
a really good job with this with this scout of

1023
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,880
like how they moved it. But the perimeter defense, it's

1024
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,880
it's a struggle right now. If you go back and

1025
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,840
watch this game, like laden rotations and they're knocking down

1026
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:39,559
threes all day.

1027
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 3: Honestly, everyone's kind of been doing like player comps with

1028
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:48,039
with Darren Peterson, between the talent that he has in

1029
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:53,559
the load management that he constantly delves into and engages in.

1030
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,280
To me, he's caught Kawhi Leonard, Like he's.

1031
00:47:56,079 --> 00:47:59,199
Speaker 1: What I think, he's kaw Leonard and with the little manager, Yeah,

1032
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:00,199
and with a little man.

1033
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 3: He is he is Kawhi Leonard. That's who he is.

1034
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,519
That's Darren Peterson. Like the best comfort for him.

1035
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:08,599
Speaker 5: His hands size too.

1036
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,119
Speaker 4: As I was saying, he's got go go gadget arms.

1037
00:48:11,159 --> 00:48:13,159
Speaker 3: He's got the biggest he's probably some of the biggest

1038
00:48:13,159 --> 00:48:15,719
ants coming in the NBAH raft. You can tell, like

1039
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,039
the way that he handles, the way that he scores too.

1040
00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:21,480
I mean, he he looks like he's running at seventy

1041
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,239
five percent. I mean, he just looks just so much

1042
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,239
better than everybody, and it's impressive to watch, there's no doubt.

1043
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,559
Let's get back to the sound b y us felt

1044
00:48:29,559 --> 00:48:31,599
to the Jayhawks. We're reading between the lines with k

1045
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,000
y Aj and Richie Saunders to Kalk and Kevin, what

1046
00:48:35,079 --> 00:48:37,880
was the message at halftime that you gave to your

1047
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:43,159
guys more offensively?

1048
00:48:43,199 --> 00:48:45,039
Speaker 8: I thought we were holding the ball way too much,

1049
00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:45,400
you know.

1050
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,519
Speaker 7: I thought Rob did a great job in the second

1051
00:48:47,559 --> 00:48:51,000
half of you know, driving, kicking.

1052
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 8: Opening things up for Richie.

1053
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 7: And so that's the blueprint, right, I mean, if I

1054
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,400
you know, if I see one more analytics about how

1055
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,719
we're the best offensive second half team in the country,

1056
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,480
I'm gonna throw up.

1057
00:49:03,519 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 8: So it's like, we got to make sure that.

1058
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 7: We're doing everything in our power individually and collectively to

1059
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,079
you know, generate offensive second half team in the country.

1060
00:49:12,119 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 8: I'm gonna throw up.

1061
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 7: So it's like, we got to make sure that we're

1062
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:19,000
doing everything in our power individually and collectively to you know,

1063
00:49:19,079 --> 00:49:21,559
generate good offense and first halves the ball games.

1064
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,039
Speaker 8: It's just hard to dig yourself a hole.

1065
00:49:27,079 --> 00:49:29,599
Speaker 3: Apparently everyone's been telling them we're the best second half

1066
00:49:29,679 --> 00:49:30,920
team in college basketball.

1067
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,599
Speaker 1: Don't worry coach your second half team. It's like, I

1068
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:35,639
don't care give a rip of being a second half team.

1069
00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:37,960
How would we be a first half team? How about

1070
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,880
we show up when the when the jump ball goes.

1071
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 4: How about we just start playing basketball? Then?

1072
00:49:43,639 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what would really help this be all

1073
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,519
your basketball team if they all got Royal Army puffer coats.

1074
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,840
Just stay warm. They need to warm up in the

1075
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,760
puffer coat. Wouldn't that be good? Like, I mean, just

1076
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,079
really stay warm in the puffer coat prior to tip off,

1077
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:02,079
you know.

1078
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 4: Sweat out all the bad juju. Yes, right, Energy cleanse,

1079
00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:08,800
Energy cleanse, I like it. I like it.

1080
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,639
Speaker 3: Go to Royal Army dot com, by the way, and

1081
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,159
purchase that new puffer coach.

1082
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,159
Speaker 1: The lining on that thing is so nice on the inside,

1083
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:16,960
Like you don't you don't necessarily see it when you

1084
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,159
look at the outside, but like, go scroll through the

1085
00:50:19,159 --> 00:50:22,039
pictures online because the lining on the inside of that thing.

1086
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 4: Is so sweet? Yeah, what is it? Is it very nice?

1087
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 6: Nice?

1088
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:28,639
Speaker 4: Yes?

1089
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,519
Speaker 3: Indeed, let's get back to the sound, which what say you,

1090
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:36,119
How concerned are you about missing opportunities to get a

1091
00:50:36,159 --> 00:50:37,079
signature win? K?

1092
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 8: Why not worried?

1093
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 7: I mean that's the beauty, the big the blessing and

1094
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,280
the curse of being in this league. You know, it

1095
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,079
feels like every night, for the most part of the night,

1096
00:50:46,119 --> 00:50:47,639
where you have an opportunity to get a.

1097
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 8: Big win, you know, and look.

1098
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 7: And we just try to focus on what's in front

1099
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,679
of us. That's kind of been my message to the

1100
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,000
guys ever gotten here.

1101
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 8: But we're a battle test group.

1102
00:51:00,679 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 7: You know, we're a couple of shots away, you know,

1103
00:51:04,039 --> 00:51:06,800
from being able to have some of those, And for me,

1104
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,280
that just gets more more fire in the belly to

1105
00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:10,280
get it right.

1106
00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:14,679
Speaker 3: Near the fire and the belly the blessing of the

1107
00:51:14,679 --> 00:51:16,519
curse of being in the Big twelve, being in the

1108
00:51:16,639 --> 00:51:24,159
true Gauntlet basketball conferences, there's signature wins wherever you roam.

1109
00:51:24,199 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: It just sucks because you've now had your four biggest

1110
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,679
games of the season that you're oh for four and

1111
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:35,079
I guess you do have opportunities to get other signature wins. However,

1112
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,199
when you're zero for four in your other ones, it

1113
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,599
makes it hard for me to like have faith that

1114
00:51:40,639 --> 00:51:43,440
you're gonna You've had enough opportunities to at least put

1115
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,519
one on the board. I'm not necessarily feeling good to

1116
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:48,880
just say, hey, there's more opportunities. It's like, yeah, but

1117
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,880
what did you do with the opportunities that you already had?

1118
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:55,639
Speaker 4: So I don't know. Also, college game Day has just

1119
00:51:55,679 --> 00:51:57,039
not been good to b YU this year.

1120
00:51:57,079 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: I think BOU should just decline invitations to college game

1121
00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:03,280
Day going forward because it's just it's not been good

1122
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:03,679
to us.

1123
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 5: It is, yeah, yeah, can you decline it going on

1124
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:07,440
the game day.

1125
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,119
Speaker 3: There's been Betty bad to me, Betty Betty bad good.

1126
00:52:11,159 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 6: So they need a college game day at home being

1127
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,880
I know that the stats are bad that, but they

1128
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,800
just they got to stop getting pinned on the road.

1129
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,840
These college game days on the road are just not it.

1130
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 4: We'll do Big Noon, We'll do Big Noon.

1131
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: You just won't do I know this is not big

1132
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,360
new for basketball. I know, but we'll do big nude

1133
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,639
because we're good at Big Noon. We're just not doing

1134
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:27,559
college game ben.

1135
00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 6: I'm not buying that though, and here's why. Look, and

1136
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,960
again I know I'm being very critical, but at February second,

1137
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,559
at two fifty five, here's why. At this point in time,

1138
00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:38,320
with this roster and with everything that went into the

1139
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,000
offseason and what they did and the robust coaching staff

1140
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,719
and resources, you would think that they would have one win. Okay,

1141
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,920
you lose the Yukon, no problem, Okay, use theres On,

1142
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:46,519
no problem.

1143
00:52:46,519 --> 00:52:48,039
Speaker 5: But Texas Tech Kansas.

1144
00:52:48,039 --> 00:52:50,039
Speaker 6: You're looking like if they would have one win out

1145
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:52,039
of the four, I don't think people be like, look

1146
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:54,679
at that, but you've come back in all of those games,

1147
00:52:55,079 --> 00:52:57,159
you know, except for Texas Tech. You were there, and

1148
00:52:57,199 --> 00:52:59,599
then you don't have any signature win. Like, yes, they

1149
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:01,719
have ten games left, they have an opportunity to have

1150
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,159
in a nine qua one games. I buy into that,

1151
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,519
but the before, up until that moment, you haven't done it.

1152
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:09,519
I do believe they'll beat Oklahoma State on Wednesday. There's

1153
00:53:09,519 --> 00:53:11,400
no way they lose it. In if they do, there's

1154
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,639
a bunch of stuff wrong. But we gotta have some accountability, Like, dude,

1155
00:53:15,679 --> 00:53:18,840
this this team was we we said Elite eight. You

1156
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,559
haven't been any of the Elite eight teams that we

1157
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:21,199
think will be there.

1158
00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:21,599
Speaker 4: You haven't.

1159
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 6: You're oning four. So to me, I gotta I gotta

1160
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,079
poke you. I gotta poke the bear and say no,

1161
00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:29,360
uh you know, no make Goosta.

1162
00:53:29,159 --> 00:53:31,559
Speaker 4: Right now, No, make gooster.

1163
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,639
Speaker 3: He says a couple of last things here before we

1164
00:53:33,679 --> 00:53:36,039
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1165
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1166
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1167
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1168
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1169
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,679
environment at home helped prepare you to play uh in

1170
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,840
Allen Fieldhouse on Saturday?

1171
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:55,639
Speaker 8: It does?

1172
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, and this is awesome, like great environment, fans,

1173
00:54:00,159 --> 00:54:03,280
credit and the community and so forth. My first time

1174
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,840
being here, did you did you blow here last year?

1175
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,440
Richie played here last year, so he's experienced it. But

1176
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,920
it does actually give me a lot of just confidence

1177
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:13,719
for our guys.

1178
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 8: You know, it's like it's the first time they've played

1179
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,920
in a loud arena and uh.

1180
00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 7: You know, I'd put ours venue and their venue up

1181
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,719
there with any any venues in the country.

1182
00:54:25,679 --> 00:54:30,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I mean playing at home is

1183
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,239
uh is a blessing for BYU and.

1184
00:54:33,159 --> 00:54:34,159
Speaker 4: It's unfortunate to me.

1185
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,079
Speaker 3: Like I think, if you're going to look at the

1186
00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:39,559
missed opportunity, even though UVa's is the number one team

1187
00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:42,559
in the country, b YU could have beaten the U

1188
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:45,760
of A Wildcats at home, Like you want to maximize

1189
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:50,679
your your winning ways at home. I mean you of

1190
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:52,960
A was they were in Fuego. I mean you look

1191
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,559
at the best teams that you has played this year.

1192
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,400
Would you say U of A is the best team

1193
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:58,840
that they've played, or as Yukon.

1194
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 4: Or you know what I mean, Like I'd say you have.

1195
00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:02,840
It was tough.

1196
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,679
Speaker 3: It was a tall task, right, it was difficult. But

1197
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,400
if you could have got one, like a really crowning

1198
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,119
jewel of those opportunities, it would have been awesome to

1199
00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:16,800
see bi play their best ball versus U of A

1200
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,599
at home under your lights, because that's what you saw

1201
00:55:19,639 --> 00:55:23,880
from Kansas. You saw Kansas play their best ball on

1202
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,960
their home court versus a very talented Bleau basketball team.

1203
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,639
And I don't think Billy played its best ball versus UFA.

1204
00:55:30,639 --> 00:55:33,400
I just don't think they did a couple last things here, Kevin,

1205
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,400
how do you feel aj and Darren Peterson handled being

1206
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,639
on the floor together on Saturday.

1207
00:55:39,639 --> 00:55:41,639
Speaker 8: Well number one. I thought Richie Sonders was the best

1208
00:55:41,679 --> 00:55:42,440
player on the floor.

1209
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,639
Speaker 7: If someone can find a tougher competitor in the country,

1210
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:48,559
I'm all ears.

1211
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 8: I thought he played unbelievable.

1212
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 7: Now as it relates to those two players, very talented,

1213
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:55,639
both of them.

1214
00:55:55,679 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 8: You know, you know, Darren is a.

1215
00:56:00,519 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 7: When it comes off his hand, you think it's going

1216
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,599
in every time, which is obviously.

1217
00:56:05,199 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 8: A great you know, I think that's what makes him great.

1218
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,719
And then obviously the athleticism and so forth. And they're

1219
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:13,360
different players.

1220
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 7: I thought Aj you demonstrated things that he could do

1221
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,800
as well at a high level. But you know, it's

1222
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,400
kind of a flavor type deal.

1223
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:24,159
Speaker 8: Which one do you want?

1224
00:56:24,199 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 7: You want chocolate ice cream or do you want cookies

1225
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:26,800
and cream?

1226
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 8: You know, I think that when it's all said and done,

1227
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,800
that's kind of where it will net out. But both

1228
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,559
fantastic players.

1229
00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:37,079
Speaker 3: It was pretty obviously Darren looked to be the best

1230
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:40,320
player on the court, but Richie in the second half

1231
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,719
took over the top. King was the best shooter on

1232
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,480
the FLOORID scene. I mean, he was impressed. If there's

1233
00:56:46,519 --> 00:56:50,320
no doubt AJ didn't have his best game. I think

1234
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,039
everyone came away from that game though extremely impressed with

1235
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,679
the potential NBA talent that he's Richie Saunders, but everybody

1236
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:01,559
knows Darren Peterson is the most talent, maybe the most entitled,

1237
00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:05,599
loadvantaged Kawhi Leonard ash player in college basketball.

1238
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, you did see.

1239
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,519
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of social media about Richie Saunders

1240
00:57:10,519 --> 00:57:12,639
on a lot of videos being made about like who's

1241
00:57:13,119 --> 00:57:16,000
who's this screbby white guy at BYU, like you might

1242
00:57:16,039 --> 00:57:16,719
get drafted?

1243
00:57:17,039 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 4: So it was cool.

1244
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: It was very cool for Richie Saunders to put the

1245
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,199
nation on notice like that and shout out to Kevin

1246
00:57:23,239 --> 00:57:25,719
Young because he said, Hey, I know you asked me this.

1247
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,199
I'm gonna answer this question that I want to answer

1248
00:57:28,239 --> 00:57:30,360
instead of the one that you asked, which is which

1249
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,239
is great media training for any coach. But yeah, Richie

1250
00:57:33,239 --> 00:57:37,360
Sunders is not gonna get talked enough about because the

1251
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,159
hype coming into this game was number one on number one,

1252
00:57:40,719 --> 00:57:45,039
and for reasons on both ends, we didn't really get

1253
00:57:45,039 --> 00:57:49,960
the story that was promised to us. However, we did

1254
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,039
get some pretty good icing on the cake with Richie

1255
00:57:53,039 --> 00:57:55,599
Saunders popping off for twenty four points in the second half,

1256
00:57:55,639 --> 00:57:59,039
shooting seven of eleven and just I mean shooting from

1257
00:57:59,159 --> 00:58:01,239
jim range on a couple of those just hand in

1258
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:01,639
his face.

1259
00:58:01,639 --> 00:58:03,239
Speaker 4: He said, I'll hit it anyway, and he did.

1260
00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:06,639
Speaker 6: Ben As a basketball a fan, though, I'm disappointed though,

1261
00:58:06,639 --> 00:58:07,679
and I think Brett you could.

1262
00:58:07,519 --> 00:58:08,639
Speaker 4: Speak to that you like.

1263
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,199
Speaker 6: And this is where I'm gonna get pushed back and

1264
00:58:10,239 --> 00:58:12,239
disagree with both of you. If you go this route,

1265
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,440
you could say Darren is the best player, but he

1266
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,480
did not play the best because he did not play

1267
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,880
in the second half, Like we have to start having accountabillion.

1268
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 3: Year was the best player on that court, like and

1269
00:58:23,519 --> 00:58:24,639
it was.

1270
00:58:24,679 --> 00:58:25,559
Speaker 4: It was not close.

1271
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,639
Speaker 5: And so like I'm not I'm not agree with that.

1272
00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 6: You have to play like the game and you can't

1273
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,679
just sit out the like the whole thing, like like

1274
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:33,880
Richie Saunder's.

1275
00:58:33,519 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: Played speculating a little bit, like we don't know how

1276
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,159
injured he was or wasn't.

1277
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,039
Speaker 6: My opinion is I still think you know he's Look,

1278
00:58:45,079 --> 00:58:47,519
this is what this is what Jonathan Gravoni and some

1279
00:58:47,559 --> 00:58:50,440
other people said. We're gonna know what the combine. We're

1280
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,880
gonna know when he goes through these physios and when

1281
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,880
he does those things. We're gonna find out if it

1282
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,840
really is something, and if it is, then I really

1283
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:58,840
feel bad for the kid.

1284
00:58:58,719 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 5: Of not being able to play and to do that.

1285
00:59:01,239 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 6: You just think with everything going on, you would see

1286
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:04,840
something to try to get back in the game. And

1287
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:10,199
competitors like like AJ got shoulder thumbs up, fine, sick playing.

1288
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,639
You see it from other people, and you don't necessarily

1289
00:59:12,719 --> 00:59:14,760
see that from him, and he's okay with it. And

1290
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,880
That's what I'm concerned about as a as a fan

1291
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,280
and competitor of the game. It's like people still pay

1292
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,199
hard money to come watch you play, even in college,

1293
00:59:22,199 --> 00:59:24,559
because these tickets are not cheap their NBA level price,

1294
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,679
like play level, and then you're not playing and it's

1295
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,639
like okay, well, it's like you don't see him trying

1296
00:59:29,679 --> 00:59:31,880
it all and anything. And I'm just I'm worried that,

1297
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,679
Like I don't want the kids career to be affected

1298
00:59:34,719 --> 00:59:37,159
because people saying, ohloh, manager should be the number one pick.

1299
00:59:37,199 --> 00:59:39,320
Because when you get to the next level, everybody's a

1300
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,199
number one pick. Everybody's good, everybody's great, and in the

1301
00:59:42,239 --> 00:59:43,239
big league's ben you see it.

1302
00:59:43,239 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 5: They'll give you paychecks and tell you to leave and

1303
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:45,440
don't come back.

1304
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 6: And I don't want to see that happen to who

1305
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,800
I think could be a great player leading USA Basketball

1306
00:59:50,039 --> 00:59:52,800
with AJ with Wagger, with you know, Kenston Flame and

1307
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,760
Cooper Flags, the guys at that league, Like I am

1308
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,880
truly concerned of what is going on, and they're not

1309
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,159
gonna tell us in college and we'll find out in April.

1310
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 5: But I'm just we're getting robbed.

1311
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 6: I feel like even his fans of basketball, like he

1312
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,320
plays tonight against TeX's Tech, is he just not gonna

1313
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,800
play the second half? Like I know, I'm getting passionate

1314
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,760
about that, but like if you're in a close ball

1315
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,159
game and you're like, oh, I'm gonna low managed or

1316
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,400
like he does put it out like that's concerning, like

1317
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,559
as just a fan and it's just as a person

1318
01:00:16,599 --> 01:00:18,679
of what is going on with Darren Peterson and none

1319
01:00:18,719 --> 01:00:20,800
of us know, but we're gonna find out in April.

1320
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 5: That's for sure.

1321
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,239
Speaker 6: He won't be able run from that. And I really

1322
01:00:24,239 --> 01:00:25,960
want to know because I want it to be a

1323
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,760
diagnosed so we all could be like, Okay, he's hurt,

1324
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,840
or to be like, Okay, you're low managing like Kawhi

1325
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,880
and I don't appreciate that, and I think that I

1326
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:33,639
think that can hurt you and people can look at

1327
01:00:33,639 --> 01:00:35,880
your character differently. But I hope that's not I really

1328
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,280
hope he's just hurt in sitting out because he can't play.

1329
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 4: I definitely think it's a bad attitude.

1330
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,639
Speaker 1: But I also think we have to be unbiased here

1331
01:00:43,679 --> 01:00:46,679
and understand he is the better player. Like he he

1332
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,360
is unreal when it comes to scoring the basketball. Now,

1333
01:00:51,199 --> 01:00:53,800
is it a bad attitude? Is it bad behavior if

1334
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:58,679
he's deciding just to not play? But let me ask you, guys, this,

1335
01:00:58,679 --> 01:01:01,239
this is a this is a good question. What drops

1336
01:01:01,239 --> 01:01:02,079
your stock.

1337
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:06,679
Speaker 4: More in the NBA? Your injury rate?

1338
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 3: Like how soft you are with oh your soft soft

1339
01:01:10,519 --> 01:01:16,320
tissue hammy uh, calf strain, uh rolled the ankle? Or

1340
01:01:16,519 --> 01:01:19,880
is it kind of the entitlement not being a team

1341
01:01:20,039 --> 01:01:24,079
player saying I'm gonna load manage until it really matters

1342
01:01:24,119 --> 01:01:26,559
like Robert or style where you're only going to show

1343
01:01:26,639 --> 01:01:30,599
up in the playoffs type of deal, Kawhi Leonard only

1344
01:01:30,639 --> 01:01:33,159
going to show up when in a big game when

1345
01:01:33,199 --> 01:01:36,119
it matters and then all play twenty eight minutes?

1346
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 4: Like what drops your stock more in the NBA?

1347
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,239
Speaker 3: Because I think the NBA doesn't give a rip, Like

1348
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,400
I just think, like I don't know if they do.

1349
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,159
Speaker 4: I think I don't think they care about attitude.

1350
01:01:46,239 --> 01:01:48,119
Speaker 3: I don't get it obviously don't care.

1351
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,199
Speaker 5: I think they care more about injuries. I think that's.

1352
01:01:51,559 --> 01:01:53,519
Speaker 4: So that would drop. So I don't even that it's

1353
01:01:53,559 --> 01:01:54,280
actually injured.

1354
01:01:54,519 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 3: Like I don't know if all this stuff is actually

1355
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,639
injury later or if it's just like his agent, his family,

1356
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,000
he his power brokers are like, we don't want you

1357
01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:07,480
to like have anything you know wrong with you going

1358
01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:09,920
into this. You're gonna be so healthy, so strong, and

1359
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,079
you're you're gonna peek and crescendo in the biggest game.

1360
01:02:13,559 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 4: I guess what I'm saying is we're gonna see.

1361
01:02:15,199 --> 01:02:18,079
Speaker 3: Who he is, Yeah, in March madness, and he could go,

1362
01:02:18,519 --> 01:02:20,920
he could there five minutes to just be killing it

1363
01:02:21,239 --> 01:02:25,079
and be the best player in college basketball in March.

1364
01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 6: It's just a bad look for you because in college

1365
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,000
it doesn't happen in the NBA with that many games

1366
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,360
and those things. That's where like I do still think

1367
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,320
it's a bad look and it can look different to people.

1368
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,880
And yet the NBA doesn't care about the necessarily but

1369
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,960
I mean you start to get in and look, they're

1370
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,440
gonna put up with the attitude band for seven eight

1371
01:02:41,519 --> 01:02:43,920
years of organization is because you're a great player. But

1372
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,039
for the future, this is what I mean, they're gonna

1373
01:02:46,039 --> 01:02:48,639
come up off you. I feel like eventually because guys

1374
01:02:48,639 --> 01:02:51,199
that do have bad attitudes, that do want to low manage,

1375
01:02:51,639 --> 01:02:53,159
they just I mean, you'll get traded for a lot

1376
01:02:53,159 --> 01:02:54,159
of money and again, but.

1377
01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:56,159
Speaker 4: Those guys are still doing it at the highest level

1378
01:02:56,159 --> 01:02:56,800
though Ron.

1379
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they don't care and they don't but the

1380
01:02:59,039 --> 01:02:59,559
quote we're not.

1381
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 6: But to me, it's like it's not about at the

1382
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,800
highest levels about being the best, right you know, and

1383
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,320
to be the best, you have to play like Kawhi Leonard,

1384
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,679
like he's in a category. But do we value Kawhi

1385
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,079
better than he's I don't because, yeah, you know, you

1386
01:03:11,119 --> 01:03:13,119
haven't played it. You take days off, like you get

1387
01:03:13,159 --> 01:03:15,960
put in those conversations. But we're talking about Darren like

1388
01:03:16,039 --> 01:03:17,840
is he gonna be better than Caleb Wilson in the future.

1389
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,639
And I'm getting into a different long, long, you know, debate,

1390
01:03:20,679 --> 01:03:22,079
but like, is he gonna be better than the Wagler?

1391
01:03:22,079 --> 01:03:24,280
Because if you're only playing forty games, and those guys

1392
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,800
are playing more. You're not gonna qualify four awards. Therefore

1393
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,239
you're not gonna qualify for all nbas. So you can't

1394
01:03:29,239 --> 01:03:31,320
be the best player in that, you know, And that's

1395
01:03:31,719 --> 01:03:32,760
so that's what I'm saying.

1396
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: I think in a vacuum, you are one hundred percent correct.

1397
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,400
The problem is that I don't think that reflects reality.

1398
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,159
I think it should reflect reality, but it doesn't because again,

1399
01:03:43,599 --> 01:03:47,400
at the next level, guess what Kawhi Leonard plays once

1400
01:03:47,559 --> 01:03:51,159
every two years. Kawhi Leonard still commands a contract, and

1401
01:03:51,199 --> 01:03:53,519
he still commands respect in the NBA. I agree with you.

1402
01:03:53,599 --> 01:03:56,800
I think it's bad behavior. I think it's really just

1403
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:01,159
bad ethics. I think it's disrespectful to watch and lovers.

1404
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 4: Of the game.

1405
01:04:02,239 --> 01:04:05,719
Speaker 1: But I do think I think it'll be really interesting

1406
01:04:05,719 --> 01:04:08,360
to your point when we find out when he gets

1407
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,559
to the combine and he can't run from it, because honestly, Ron,

1408
01:04:11,639 --> 01:04:15,039
like I do want to give context, Like, let's also

1409
01:04:15,159 --> 01:04:18,840
remember that Paolo Bancaro was also missing games, and I

1410
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,480
was also having issues and had a ton of injuries,

1411
01:04:21,519 --> 01:04:23,760
and then we came to find out, oh, yeah, this

1412
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,960
dude can't hold water because he's literally losing like he's

1413
01:04:27,039 --> 01:04:30,480
drinking water during the game, and he's losing weight by

1414
01:04:30,519 --> 01:04:32,519
the end of the game because he just has a

1415
01:04:32,639 --> 01:04:35,679
medical condition. He can't hold anything down. He's a heavy sweater.

1416
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,599
Yeah know what the issue is with Darren. I hope

1417
01:04:39,639 --> 01:04:42,079
it's that he's injured. I hope it's not that he

1418
01:04:42,119 --> 01:04:47,400
hates basketball or that he just has a bad attitude.

1419
01:04:47,559 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 6: Look, because here's the thing, you know what, I'm really upset.

1420
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,559
I wanted to see him go for fifty.

1421
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 4: Because we.

1422
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: Were robbed of a great game. It is like we

1423
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,480
were robbed of the that we were problem. You scored

1424
01:05:01,519 --> 01:05:04,039
eighteen points in twenty minutes. You were twenty two efficient

1425
01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:05,880
from the field. And this is no disrespect to Richard.

1426
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:07,360
I don't want them to get mad at me. But

1427
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,280
you let the Tod King, who's a good player, but

1428
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:10,559
and he raises draft stocks, so.

1429
01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 5: It was good, let me finish.

1430
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,639
Speaker 6: But you let this kid from Riverton who is a

1431
01:05:16,679 --> 01:05:19,920
second round pick. No, you know, you let him take

1432
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:21,679
over in the second half, and I wanted to see

1433
01:05:21,679 --> 01:05:24,199
you take over. I wanted to see Darren Peter. I'm like,

1434
01:05:24,239 --> 01:05:26,039
this might go for fifty. I was gonna wait to

1435
01:05:26,039 --> 01:05:27,920
see if he could get twenty five. And then he

1436
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,840
didn't play the second half, and I said, come on now,

1437
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,239
like I want to see you, like, like I need

1438
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,519
you to settle this, right, you already baptize somebody. You

1439
01:05:35,599 --> 01:05:38,760
dropped eighteen, Go for thirty, go for forty, and just

1440
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,559
put it to bed, like that's what I like players

1441
01:05:40,599 --> 01:05:42,320
to do, Ben, and then just walk off with a

1442
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:43,920
smirk and be like, yeah, I just did that. And

1443
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,440
that's why I was upset of like as a basketball

1444
01:05:46,519 --> 01:05:48,639
fan of I didn't get a chance to see him

1445
01:05:48,639 --> 01:05:50,840
do that and like close it out because the game

1446
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,679
got too close. And we all can agree with this,

1447
01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:54,840
it got too close because he didn't play. If he's

1448
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,119
in the game, they don't. I don't even think they

1449
01:05:56,159 --> 01:05:58,440
get close to this even with Richie's performance. If I'm

1450
01:05:58,440 --> 01:05:59,960
gonna be honest.

1451
01:05:59,639 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and who knows what would have happened, right, what

1452
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,599
had justin s would have been made? Could you stymy

1453
01:06:04,679 --> 01:06:06,400
Darren Peterson starting to know?

1454
01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 8: Right?

1455
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 3: He looked unstoppable though in the first half, and Richie

1456
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,280
looked like he could hit it from anywhere in the

1457
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,599
second half, you know, even when.

1458
01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:15,639
Speaker 4: He had a hand in his face.

1459
01:06:15,679 --> 01:06:20,159
Speaker 3: So I do love like the mechanics of Richie Saunders

1460
01:06:20,199 --> 01:06:23,519
and that quick release. It's you know, Ray Allen has

1461
01:06:23,559 --> 01:06:26,440
the most pure shot that I've ever witnessed, and he's

1462
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,679
one of the best, if not the best, three point shooter.

1463
01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:31,800
And I loved just how he would elevate, how crisp

1464
01:06:32,679 --> 01:06:35,880
his release was, how quick it was. Richie has a

1465
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,800
little bit more of like Johnny from Karate Kid with

1466
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,159
the headband and the floppy hair going on. He's a

1467
01:06:41,199 --> 01:06:43,800
little bit more Cobra Ka, yeah, cobra Kai. Actually he's

1468
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,000
kind of gangly. He kind of has like this this

1469
01:06:46,159 --> 01:06:49,159
uh blippy kind of feels to him those that that

1470
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:53,079
you watch blippy, you know, kind of doing this like

1471
01:06:53,199 --> 01:06:55,719
gumby thing going anyway, it kind of gets a little

1472
01:06:55,719 --> 01:06:58,320
bit wild, if you will, kind of like Cody Hagen's

1473
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,960
running style when he's kind of throwing the arm out anyway.

1474
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:06,559
But like, you know, when he elevates and releases, it

1475
01:07:06,719 --> 01:07:11,679
is pure, like unto Ray, Like he's what I'm saying,

1476
01:07:11,719 --> 01:07:14,519
watch Ray Allen mechanics.

1477
01:07:14,519 --> 01:07:18,559
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, just pure pure and.

1478
01:07:18,519 --> 01:07:21,519
Speaker 3: Richie has He's not Ray, right, I'm just saying, but

1479
01:07:21,639 --> 01:07:24,840
like and he elevates, he gets to that peak and

1480
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,480
he releases, man, it is silky smooth. Anyway, let's go

1481
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,920
to break. We're gonna get to Richie sound and Rob

1482
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:33,000
right the third sound coming up next, h don't miss it.

1483
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,960
Also get jam All Nashburn's thoughts on how by you

1484
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,760
did a disservice putting aj on Darren in the first half.

1485
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,719
We'll discuss that as well coming up next.

1486
01:07:42,719 --> 01:07:43,039
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01:07:43,039 --> 01:07:45,920
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