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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, and Welcome to Life is a gamble. My

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guest today is known as Cowboy Buzz. But before we

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get into that, I just want to say you can

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always reach me at Life is a gamblepod at gmail

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dot com or find me on Twitter at RWM twenty one.

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I always appreciate hearing feedback or ideas for interesting guests

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and things like that. So our guest today, as I mentioned,

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is Cowboy Buzz, and cowboys are usually thought of as

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being from the Southwest, and Buzz is from the southwest

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side of Chicago. Buzz, Welcome to Life is a gamble.

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Speaker 2: Well, great to be Richard, I really appreciate it. I

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hope I can give you some good life stories here.

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But before I start, just so you know, all the

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stories I'm going to be telling today are true and

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accurate to a fact. I know you have a lot

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of integrity on your podcast. However, my stories are kind

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of in the vein of the legendary whyat irked You

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remember him, the guns in the law man, of course,

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so he spent most of his life telling a story

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about what really happened at the Old K Corral. He

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told it over and over and over millions of times.

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So one day a reporter interviewed him. He said, mister ir,

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how did you deal with having to tell the same

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story over and over and over? He goes, well, Son,

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I just told him the way it was, and then

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I finished with this exact statement and I quote, and

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that's exactly the way it happened. Give or take a

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liar too.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, Well, you have had quite an unusual life,

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which is why I wanted to have you on. But

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let's start with how you got how and when you

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got from Cicero to Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I grew up outside Chicago, Cicero.

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Speaker 1: My father was.

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Speaker 2: Very, very well known. He was one of the largest

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vending machine operators in Chicago. You know, read through the

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lines on that one. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The vending machine business in Chicago was very much like

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the trash hauling business in New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good analogy, I guess.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I was a pretty good athlete in high school.

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I played baseball. Was very fortunate. I was offered a

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scholarship at Southern Illinois and at LSU. But my dad's

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dream was for me to go to the Southwest, where

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we vacation and go to Arizona State and play baseball there.

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So I turned down the two scholarships to walk on

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at Arizona State. This would be in nineteen seventy, and

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I got very fortunate. I got there the first day

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and there were twelve other catchers trying out.

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Speaker 1: Twelve. Wow, I was the.

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Speaker 2: Only one from the Midwest. And I thought to myself, Buzz,

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what did you do? Make a long story short, I

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made the team I started. I played there for two years,

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and after the sophomore year, they were gonna select the

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varsity team, which meant if you got selected for ASU's

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varsity team they had just won the national championship in

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sixty five, sixty seven, sixty nine. Now it's nineteen seventy,

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you're going to sign the pro contract. Well, at the

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end of the sophomore year, they do this evaluation and

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if you're not gonna make the varsity, they offer to

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send you to almost anywhere in the country you want

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to go play baseball, with the exception of their art

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tribal you know, sc in Arizona and Texas Flora Flora.

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You can't go there, but anywhere else. And I made

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the determination. I took a shot. I was really good,

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but I didn't make it. On my freshman team, there

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were twenty three players. Twenty two of the twenty three

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made it to the major leagues.

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Speaker 1: That's how. Yeah, I was the only one who didn't.

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Speaker 2: So I was a little bunned out and I figured, well,

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a new path and I said, you know what, screw

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might really did. My thing here baseball was I'm going

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to transfer to UNLV, get into the hotel administration school,

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and just start over in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Now was part of that because your dad said, hey,

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I know people in Vegas and can get you a

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job when you're there.

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Speaker 2: Or never once said anything until twenty years later, I'm

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going to tell that story. But he never pushed me,

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he never guided me. And here's how it really works.

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So I was a lifeguard and one of the most

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exclusive resorts in Arizona right behind Camelback Mountains called Mountain Shadows,

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and Dell Webb owned it with a bunch of other properties,

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and we had was a lifeguard there for a year

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and a half during my college days, and they had

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this program where you could transfer to any other Dell

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web property and get a job. So I went to

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the guy, and they got me a job as at

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the Mint Hotel, the old Mint, as a casino cage cashier.

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So you know, when I go to move up there,

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I got a job already. Basically I moved up there.

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I was a Sigma chi at Arizona State and they

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had a big Sigma Chai chapter at UNLB, so I

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met a few frattorney brothers. But so now I'm going

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to work at the Mint and learning how to you know,

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cast people out. I got really good with my hands

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with checks, which we'll lead to dealing craps later on.

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But they had all kinds of rules they ever have

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cell phones, you know, one of the rules you can't

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take a personal call unless it's you know, a deathly emergency.

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So I was only there about three months and the

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cage manager, her name was Rusty, just just a pit.

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She comes up to me and she goes, Buss, you

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got a personal phone call? And I go, Russie, what

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is this like a test, because you know I can't

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take personal phone calls. She goes, you'll take this one.

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I go okay. So she hands me the phone and

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there's a guy on the other end and goes, hey,

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buzz yeah, this is Russ Dazio at the Stardust Hotel

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and Casino. I go, great, mister Dashio, what can I

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do for He goes, well, we kind of heard about

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you and we would lock for you to come down

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and work with us here at the start us and

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everybody can hear what's going on, and everyone's like, oh,

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I'm going, uh, well, sure, i'd really like that. I go,

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you know, I'll talk to my manager Rusty here, I'll

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give her my two weeks rest resignation notice, and I'll

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be right down.

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Speaker 1: It'd be great. He goes.

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We need you down here tomorrow at New. He goes,

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you gotta suit right like gray black, something conservative? Right conservative?

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I go, yes, sir, I got all that. He goes

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for your conservative tie on your coat and be down

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here at about five to new and he goes, and

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don't worry about Rusty. She's gonna understand. I'm going, okay,

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So everything's all set to go. I hang up the

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phone and the Caja employees start applotting. They and I'm going, okay,

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because you know, I'm twenty one years old. I don't

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you know that much yet. So Rushy comes up and

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he she goes, wow, who's your juice? And I had

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no clue what she was talking about. I go, juice,

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what do you mean juice? She goes, who's your juice?

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Speaker 1: Who do you know? I go, well, I don't really

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know anybody.

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Speaker 2: I know you. She goes, no, you know somebody, you

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just don't know who it is, and you better find

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out who that is. The starterist hotel doesn't call them

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mint and invite someone to go to work for him

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doesn't have so I'm off to the starter So I

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put my suit on. I walked into the dice pit

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and there's mister Russ Dass you go, oh, boss Buzz,

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come on in, and he goes, just give us a

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couple of minutes. Here, we got something going on. This

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is the shift boss, Bernie Purlow was his name. He goes,

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how are you doing? And he goes, we got some

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stuff going on, and mister Dazio disappears. I didn't see

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him for another two hours. So now I'm standing next

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to who turns out to be the shift boss, and

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he looks at me and goes, okay, I want you

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to stand right there. Keep your face forward, keep your

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mouth shut, don't answer any questions, don't talk to nobody.

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Just stand still. I'll be with you in a few minutes.

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I'm going, okay, now, keep in eyeing. I don't even

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know what the job is. I don't know what I'm

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I pay a heel so anyway, so I'm standing there,

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and luckily for me, being an athlete, I have a

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pretty good periphial vision. So down the pit there's this

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guy walking down, big tall guy, six, beautiful, magnificent suit on,

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and he's saying hi to almost everybody. Dealers, the patrons,

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all the floor men. Every one of them is shaking

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this guy's hand. I'm going, okay, I don't know this

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guy is, but he's somebody. So he comes up to

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the dish and not standing at the main desk, and

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right next to the main desk is a little podium

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that maybe one or two people could stand at. So

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this guy walks up, and the shift boss walks over

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and the guy's going, uh, Bernie, how you doing. I'm

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saying you, well, how's your wife feeling, how's the kids?

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How are the grandkids? And when that's all done, he

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kind of stops from right in the Mill looks at

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me and goes, who's the kid, and he goes, oh, yeah,

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it's his first day. Phil Diogardi brought him in. His

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family's from Cicero. He goes, oh, who's this sponsor. He

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goes Louis Sileerno. He goes, oh, well, Louis from Melrose Park.

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That's right next to cit that'll get along great. He

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turns around, he looks at me and he goes, hey, kid,

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first day.

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Speaker 1: And I said yes, sir.

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Speaker 2: He goes, well, I want you to keep your eyes

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open and your ears open and your mouth shut, and

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I want you to listen to these guys right here.

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You might learn something. And I looked him right in

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the eye and I said, yes, sir, I can do that.

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He gives me this staring look, and all of a

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sudden he breaks into a chuckle and he goes, kid,

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I think you're gonna be okay. And that's the first

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time I met Frank left the Rosen thought.

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Speaker 1: So now he.

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Speaker 2: Goes back to business and he leaves the pit, and

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Bernie Purlow, the shift boss, comes up and stands next

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to me and he goes, kid.

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Speaker 1: You did really good.

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Speaker 2: He goes, but get ready Frank nicknamed you himself. Now

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the whole joint's going to be calling you the kid.

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I was there, I don't think that many people even

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knew my name because they would just call me the

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kid because I was the youngest guy in the pit

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at age twenty one. So that's how it kind of started.

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Speaker 1: I'll get back to what was your job? Your job

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was pit boss?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I had no idea. So so

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finally this Dazzio guy comes back, you know, because the

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shift boss is Busyders, you know, Shrine. So I go okay.

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So mister Dazzer goes, you can call me Russ. Actually

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you can call me the Duke. That's my name, the Duke.

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I go, okay, Duke, What am I going to be doing?

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And he goes, well, you're gonna be in charge of

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credit on the casino.

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Speaker 1: Floor, and I freeze. I don't know any think about credit?

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What are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: You'll say, ah, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Worry about it. We're gonna teach everything.

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Speaker 2: It's not really that hard. You's gotta enter a figure

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here and a figure there, no problem. So really, what

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the job was is when someone wanted a marker, want

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a credit, uh to verify it. They would call from

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the twenty one pitter the bakrock to table and I

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would answer the phone and they say, kid, mister g

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wants two grands. So I'd look them up and everything

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was in pencil in a notebook. There were no computers

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at that time. It's all in a notebook. So you

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marked down two grand. Now he's got eight grand. Company

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had a ten grand line. So that's what I kind

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of did all day long. I was the guy who

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approved the markets.

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Speaker 1: And it seems like.

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Speaker 2: A real simple thing, right, hard to get into a

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jackpot as they would call it, you know, a stress situation.

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As time went on, they started grooming you and teaching

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you all the different things. Well, here's what the job

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really morphed to. Not only were you handling the credit,

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but here's what would happen, maybe not on a daily basis,

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but every other day, sometimes twice a day. So they

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recalled buys mister gez here and I go, okay, he's

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got a fifteen thousand dollars line and he wants fourth out,

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Go ahead and give.

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Speaker 1: It to him. He's good night.

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Speaker 2: You know, tell him you just got here. Don't let

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him speak, you know, I mean, play too fast too early.

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A couple hours later, mister G wants another four k.

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He can can't he can have it, and I was

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at half his limit. You know, he's only been here

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two hours. Okay, Now I calls back and I go, man,

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you got to stop this guy from speeding.

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Speaker 1: You know he's obsessed. You know it's mister G.

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Speaker 2: You know, mister G is. Maybe I did, maybe I didn't,

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didn't matter. I can only give him what I could

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give him. So now I get to his limit and

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here comes to call. Mister G wants another four grand,

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which would make it nineteen grand, and he has a

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fifteen thousand dollars line. So I got to tell him, no, no,

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he can't have it. He's at his limit. That that's

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all we're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Do right now today.

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Speaker 2: And he goes, you do know this is mister G. Right,

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I go, yeah, it doesn't really matter who it is.

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I can't give him money that that isn't there to give.

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He goes, okay, get ready. So about thirty seconds later,

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here's some guy screaming down in the twenty one pit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know what.

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Speaker 2: Sure, Now if here comes mister G. Like I said,

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this would happen all the time, every week, not with

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one guy, but a lot of different guys. So here

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he comes storming down the pit to the dice pit,

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which is the headquarters for the cause. And he's not

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looking for me. He's looking for the oldest looking guy

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in charge, the shift boss.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: So he finds them and it's not quite upset yet,

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and so he starts to talk to the shift boss

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about his credit line and bitcher, they love this, they

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look forward to this. To the shift boss, this look

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like entertainment to that because he would stop him dead.

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And they're trying to go whoa, whoa, whoa, Wait a minute,

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I'm a shift boss, I run all the game. I

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got nothing to do with credit. You got to go

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over there. You gotta go over there and talk to

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the kid. And he's pointing at me twenty one years old,

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that that kid, I gotta talk to him. So here

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comes mister G. You little amm ab, who do you

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think you I'm And you're not thinking I'm good for them,

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And they would just rant and ran. So part of

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the job was letting him rant. And then then finally

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it stop him. Now, keep in mind, as he's ranting

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at me, he's also looking over my shoulder just a

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little bit, because standing about six seven paces behind me

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is buster Buster is about six' four six foot, five

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one of the largest cut black Men i've ever seen

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in my life in a start as security uniform. Packet

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he's standing behind. Me so it's never really gonna get

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out of. Control but sooner or LATER i hadn't, said,

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look mister G i know you're a little upset right.

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Now but here's the. Thing you, know we told you

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not to, speed you kind of did.

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Speaker 1: It.

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Speaker 2: Anyway we're not going to give any more money here.

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Tonight but if you want to go see the, Show

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i'll put you in the front. Row you want dinner

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At Moby, dick stay, whatever you want to go see

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the lounge show, Over i'll put you up for. You

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you want to BROAD i can help you out with.

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That but we're not gonna give you any more money.

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Tonight so what the job really became was part of

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the job was cooling down the people that were at

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their limit who wanted more money because they didn't want

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to deal with all that because there's nothing you can

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either do it or.

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Speaker 1: NOT i, mean you know WHAT i.

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Speaker 2: Mean and if you couldn't do, it you couldn't do.

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It but they appreciated you handling that. Heat so there

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was no scene in the casino that they had to

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be part. Of and that was kind of one of

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the real challenging parts of. It AND i got to

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tell you my whole experience.

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Speaker 1: There these.

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Speaker 2: Guys you've heard a lot about these guys and the

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mob and all that, stuff but literally they were. Geniuses

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they really. Were they were so good at taking care

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of people because back then room, food boot, booze it

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was all. Cocked wanted you at the, table, period, cigarette,

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cigar whatever you. Want you gotta put your time in

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at the, table.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, actually now that you say, THAT i remember they

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used to have cigarettes on the table in some.

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Speaker 3: Place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you just ask them for a pack of whatever

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you smoked and they would just give you. Back. Yeah,

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Yeah SO i GOTTA i gotta tell you a brief.

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Story SO i moved To vegas in seventy seven AND

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i got a job breaking in, blackjack dealing blackjacket the golden,

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Nugget and you, KNOW i learned like you people were

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LIKE i would, say, man how do you get to

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a job on the, Strip and they would, say you

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got to have? Juice and like, YOU i was, like what's?

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Juice you? Know and uh and and you learn right

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that it's your connections and all. That and and one

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DAY i Was i'd been dealing about eight nine, months

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AND i had this regular older woman who would come

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in and play with me all the. Time and she

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says to, me how come you're not dealing on the,

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Strip AND i, SAID i don't have. Juice you. Know

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everybody tells me you got to have, juice AND i

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don't have. Any and she looks at me Like i'm an,

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idiot and she, goes your father's a lawyer In, chicago

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and you think you don't have any? Juice and like

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the thought had never occurred to. Me AND i called

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my dad AND i was, like, hey you, know would

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you talk to your friends and see if any of

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them know anybody that can get me a job on the.

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Strip he calls me back the next day and he, goes,

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yeah go see this Guy Frank rosenthal at the. Startest

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AND i had been in, town you, know eight nine.

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Months by that POINT i KNEW i did not want

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to go work at the Startest SO i, said you know,

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What i'll. Pass i'll work on finding my own. Job so,

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YEAH i didn't, go AND i kind of WISH i,

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had just Because i'm sure the stories would have been

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amazing about, this because you, know that was like nineteen seventy.

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EIGHT i remember when his car blew. Up but, now

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what years were? You how long did you stay there

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at The?

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Speaker 2: Stardust, okay SO i was there from nineteen seventy three

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to nineteen eighty, one but intermittently because And i'll get

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to the, story because they sent me to The Sundown

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west to breaking in twenty ein. Blackjack then they sent

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me to The fremont to break into. CRAFTS i actually

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dealt baccarat at The, starts so they were Sending SO

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i wasn't at The start the whole, time but pretty

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much if three years in a row and then maybe

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every other, YEAR i came back to deal crafts way later.

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On that's a different. Story but back to their. Genius oh, yeah, yeah,

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yeah let me tell you how they built their gambling.

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Speaker 1: Database it was.

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Speaker 2: Genius So i'll take mister g fifteen thousand dollars line

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and he's over by three grand or. Whatever so before he,

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leaves you, know we have a little set down with.

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Him it was actually a stand up in the dice.

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Bit but, okay mister, JAY i see your three thousand

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over your. Limit don't worry about. Nothing just pay off the.

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Markers we'll send another plane back and we'll do it

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all over. Again i'll tell you. What you know that

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extra three, granules don't worry about. That we're not gonna collect.

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That just just just pass the fifteen. Thousand that'll be.

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Good just you, know are kind of good wishes to, you,

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right and the guy, goes of, course he, goes, yeah well,

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THANKS i really appreciate. That and they, go oh, yeah

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one other. Thing so let me send the plane out for.

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Speaker 1: You next.

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Speaker 2: Time you got to bring a friend with. You he's

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got to have your same credit your same credit. LINE

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i don't care if it's your, brother brother in law and,

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neighbor it doesn't. Matter but you got to bring somebody with. You,

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sure and we'll comp. Everything so now that guy comes back,

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in mister G now he is shilling off to his

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brother in. Law, right come, Up, oh you got to

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meet the. Kid you got to meet the, kid you got,

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oh you can get you whatever you.

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Speaker 3: Want.

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Speaker 2: Yeah so same thing happens To, bobby and we Bring bobby. Aside,

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okay but we're gonna forgive this twenty five. Hundreds, uh

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but next time you, come you got to come to

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someone else and someone different than mister. G you all

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can come, together but you gotta have somebody With and

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that's how they built their. Database not only did that

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assure good credit and, collection but they were also targeting,

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uh specific areas Like, Chicago Kansas city where the people

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that were coming from those places they were not a

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risk of any, kind you know What i'm. Saying and

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they had, money they were most of them were business. Owners,

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yeah that's how they built their. Database you imagine how

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that multiplies over. Time they, were they, were they were.

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Speaker 3: Geniuses and now the other thing, is so those years

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that you were there for everybody who's seen the Movie,

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casino those were also the years Of Tony, spilatro who

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was getting his fingers into the stardust and causing some.

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Speaker 1: Problems so did you have any run ins with?

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Speaker 2: HIM i know this is maybe hard to, believe BUT

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i never saw, HIM i never met. HIM i cannot remember.

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Him being in the casino WHEN i was there, anyway

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AND i worked really SO i worked all three shifts

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throughout the. Week now there were, rumors they were probably,

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true that he used to go back in the poker

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room and he had a poker gang and they, would you,

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know rip off the. Tourists you, know they ain't going

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to be that. Game so there was, That but actually

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have a conversation or seeing, THEM i ONLY i take it.

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BACK i saw him one time at a social, function

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but it was from forty yards. Away yeah you know

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WHAT i. Mean but so my recollection from WHAT i

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in the, movie they had him running everything and, YEAH i.

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DIDN'T i didn't see that. Happening ye, left he was

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running everything every day Period and what kind of guy was?

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HE i, mean did you spend much time talking to

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him or interacting with? Him and what kind of guy was?

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He after a, WHILE i guess he kind of liked

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me because one day he might have Been yeah it

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Was Bernie pearlov. Again on day. Shift he, Goes, Bernie

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i'm going to take the kid with me for a

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couple hours and he, Goes, OKAY i didn't know what that.

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Meant so what that really meant WAS i would walk

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behind him about five paces and we'd walk through the

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casino and all, day law not all, day for the

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two or three hours a. Day SOMETIMES i would do.

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This he would, say, kid go get me that, kid

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go get me that. Report, kid let me know What

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tommy up on phone number four said about The creton.

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Speaker 1: Game that's SO i was like his gopher.

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Speaker 2: Then SO i got to know him pretty. Good he

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was a. Genius he. Was it's so smart it was.

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Unbelievable and compared to the, MOVIE i would say he

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was way more in control of his. Emotions he could get,

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emotional no doubt about, it but not like most of

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the rest of the pit, bosses who could go off

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any second for any reason for, hours like, Huh frank wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Like that's exactly WHY i didn't want to go work,

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there because they had that.

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Speaker 2: REPUTATION i mean one of the bosses' nickname was Little.

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HITLER i, mean come. On so then one DAY i

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only did this one about three different, times but he,

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said he, said can't. Coming we're going on. Tour so

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what that meant was we all into all these. Properties

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we had the, startist we had The. HACIENDA i think

468
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,440
we had a secret interest in The tropicana because we

469
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,920
would go. There then you had the Old sundance In.

470
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,599
FITZGERALD'S i think that's the d.

471
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 3: Now, yeah the D, YEAH i Mean sundance In fitzgerald's

472
00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:15,240
was the same.

473
00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: Place they just changed. Names.

474
00:26:17,519 --> 00:26:23,519
Speaker 2: Now The Sundance west was the old carousel across the

475
00:26:23,559 --> 00:26:28,799
street from The fremont. There, anyway it was very small

476
00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:32,079
casino used to be called The, carousel and right next

477
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,799
to the carousel what they call the jam. AUCTIONS i

478
00:26:34,839 --> 00:26:38,759
don't know if you remember. Them, No, yeah that's a

479
00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:41,160
whole different. Story, anyway we would go and do the

480
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,119
same THING i was doing for him at The, starts

481
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,079
but at The. Hacienda SO i got to know like

482
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,039
pretty much everybody in the, family being his. Gopher and

483
00:26:50,079 --> 00:26:52,119
then at one point in time he, said you, know

484
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,440
you got to learn how to. Deal he, goes you

485
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,319
ain't going to go. Nowhere you got to deal all the.

486
00:26:56,319 --> 00:27:00,279
Games so then they sent me to The, sundance send

487
00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:04,200
me The fremont to learn all the. Games and that

488
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,799
was my road kind of into being a boss, basically so.

489
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:10,799
Speaker 1: To kind of.

490
00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: Continue that because that came on En i'll get there in.

491
00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:17,599
Second AFTER i learned the, DEAL i came back to

492
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,799
the Start us And dell craps because if they knew

493
00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:23,839
IF i could handle the game at The startus because big.

494
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,599
CRAP i, mean you had to be. Good if you

495
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,160
could handle the game, there you're good.

496
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: To, go.

497
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 2: Basically and then SO i was actually dealing craps and my,

498
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,359
Sponsor Luis, lerno he, goes kids are lucky. Day we're

499
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,920
gonna take you out of. Here we're gonna send you

500
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,160
down to a place Called Foxy's.

501
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: Firehouse oh, yeah cross from The.

502
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: Sahara, yeah So i'm twenty four years old now, RIGHT i, go, okay,

503
00:27:54,839 --> 00:27:56,279
yeah what do you want me to do? There he,

504
00:27:56,319 --> 00:27:58,039
Goes you're going to be graveyard shift?

505
00:27:58,079 --> 00:27:58,759
Speaker 1: Boss?

506
00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:01,599
Speaker 2: Was he, goes?

507
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: Yeah did they even have table games at that?

508
00:28:04,279 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 2: Time at that time they had nine blackjack, tables one crap.

509
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,960
Table they had a poker room with one. Table they

510
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:21,960
had keno in probably four or five hundred, slots so

511
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:27,000
they had pretty much all all the. Games and so

512
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,759
the other partners they probably had major interests were two

513
00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:35,599
guys Named Earl wilson And Mel. Wolzina sure you heard those?

514
00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:39,559
Names Earl wilson's name is on top of the stadium AT.

515
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,359
Unlv they Owned United Coin company back when you had

516
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,119
to use tokens for the, machine And Noel wolsinger became

517
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,119
the majority stockholder at The Golden. Nugget so that's WHO

518
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,960
i was working. FOR i, mean you talked about connected

519
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,480
and they were all, great and, really you, know you

520
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:03,839
hear about all the emotions of all the bosses and all.

521
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,240
That in, reality the vast majority of these guys were

522
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,599
pretty good. Guys they were classy, guys well, dressed well.

523
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:18,079
Spoken they weren't the the. BRUNOS i, mean they really

524
00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:21,400
weren't like. That they were. Classy you.

525
00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:26,759
Speaker 1: Know you, know, now were you when you first started

526
00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:32,039
at the? Starters was this still the era when they

527
00:29:32,079 --> 00:29:35,319
would whack people? Out in other, words bring in a

528
00:29:35,359 --> 00:29:37,599
dealer to cheap players that were winning too?

529
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: Much okay to my knowledge, now they they would change.

530
00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:45,200
Dealers you, Know, NO i don't. KNOW i.

531
00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:46,599
Speaker 1: WASN'T i wasn't one of those.

532
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:51,599
Speaker 2: Dealers, yeah SO i don't really recall. That they could

533
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,720
have been probably did do, that and you wouldn't, know

534
00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:57,480
it's just another dealer coming. In but they weren't talking about,

535
00:29:57,519 --> 00:30:01,359
it especially to. Me you, know the youngest kid in the,

536
00:30:01,359 --> 00:30:03,799
pit and what does the kid you even know about?

537
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:07,200
That you, Know, yeah WELL i didn't really see, that

538
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,720
AND i DIDN'T i didn't know about them taking anybody

539
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,759
in the back room and breaking their. Knuckles it could have.

540
00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:18,000
HAPPENED i personally didn't see any of. That and they

541
00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:21,359
didn't really talk about. That there was no pride in.

542
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,960
That if they did it to these, guys they just

543
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:25,640
didn't talk about.

544
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: It and none of.

545
00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:29,839
Speaker 2: That you, know you learn first thing about what you

546
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,359
want to know and what you want to don't. Know, Right, no,

547
00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:35,279
seriously you have to be. Careful you, know you say

548
00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:37,440
the wrong thing to the wrong person at the wrong,

549
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,160
time in the wrong, situation you might lose more than

550
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:40,519
just your.

551
00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:40,799
Speaker 1: Job.

552
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: Dude, yes so you got very smart at reading, people

553
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,400
so you didn't find yourself and what they called the.

554
00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:53,720
Jackpot so there's a, great great learning experience and they

555
00:30:53,799 --> 00:30:57,920
and they knew you were young and they were bringing you. Along,

556
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,640
well Here i'll give you this is a good. Story in,

557
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,079
FACT i got the way out on my bedroom. Wall

558
00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:07,799
So i'm gonna charge of. Credit and we have this

559
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,920
guy From, Texas Dallas. Texas name Is Bob. McLean never

560
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,000
forget him any one hundred thousand dollars credit. Line, okay

561
00:31:16,039 --> 00:31:18,400
so we're at that's as big as you get at that.

562
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: Time that was just like the seventy.

563
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:27,319
Speaker 2: To, me it's seventy three or early seventy. Four wow, yeah, Wow.

564
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,839
Okay so, anyway this guy starts playing crabs and he's

565
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:37,359
down NINETY. K i thought he was actually down one

566
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,240
HUNDRED k BECAUSE i forgot to make an. Entry so

567
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:46,279
he's at his, limit, Right, Yeah So foeman comes, over

568
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:48,839
he goes he wants another ten, thousand SO i thought

569
00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:51,400
he was at, ninety SO i, go, yeah.

570
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: Give it to, Him.

571
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:58,039
Speaker 2: Richard this guy takes the ten grand and rolls it

572
00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:05,680
up to a little over nine nine hundred. Thousand you

573
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:11,640
are a statistical mathematical. Genius at the, time you could

574
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,920
only bet five hundred dollars a, number five hundred on the,

575
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,839
line one thousand on the. Back now they let him

576
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:21,480
go five thousand on the back five, times not like

577
00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:24,279
today would go ten or. Twenty but just think of

578
00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:27,279
those increments and how to get ten thousand to a. Million,

579
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,039
yeah he was at the table for thirty one. Hours

580
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,799
they kept bringing him food and. Everything SO i go.

581
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,400
Home BEFORE i go, Home frank shows up and they're

582
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,960
talking to, him AND i hear him say from the little.

583
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,519
Podium he, goes, well who gave him the? Money and

584
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:48,839
this Ship westler's right at. Me he goes the kid And,

585
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,960
frank And frank turns and looks at me and gives

586
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,480
me this look and just starts shaking his head back and.

587
00:32:54,519 --> 00:32:58,319
Forth but he didn't say a. Word very. Unusual you.

588
00:32:58,359 --> 00:33:01,359
Know they were, GOING i watch, This he's gonna but

589
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,279
he didn't say a. Word SO i go. HOME i

590
00:33:04,319 --> 00:33:06,680
didn't sleep all. NIGHT i got to double back to

591
00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:08,839
do the day shift BECAUSE i left at four in the.

592
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,480
Morning this is at the end of the. Swing, shit

593
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:14,079
So i'm coming back at. Noon so NOW i didn't

594
00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:16,240
sleep at. All i'm, Wondering, okay what's gonna? Happen SO

595
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:17,880
i walk in the end of the twenty one AND

596
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,480
i can see that the guy still rolling. Dice, Man

597
00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:23,920
i'm going, on he probably owns the joint right. Now

598
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,680
so coming by me was one of the old. DUDES

599
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,319
i think it was from The Purple. Game you can

600
00:33:31,359 --> 00:33:35,400
look him. Up his name Is Milton. Jaffey probably was

601
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,559
part owners some, way somehow out OF i believe it Was.

602
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,279
Detroit an old, guy he's probably eighty years. Old they

603
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:46,279
called him The magician because he could do all these

604
00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:46,799
things with his.

605
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:47,319
Speaker 1: Hand he was a.

606
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: Crow so, anyway he comes up and Dream he, goes, hey,

607
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,880
kid how'd you. GOING i haven't seen you a. WHILE i, go,

608
00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:57,039
well Mister, jeffy, Honestly i'm not doing so. GOOD i

609
00:33:57,039 --> 00:33:59,680
didn't sleep all. Night you, go, oh, OKAY i, go,

610
00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:03,359
WELL i see MISTER g is still over there rolling.

611
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,480
Dice you, know he had me for almost a million

612
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:09,079
dollars last. Night and he looks over there and, goes

613
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:12,199
you mean that. GUY i, go, yeah MISTER. G he, goes,

614
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,679
oh that. Guy we got the million back and he's

615
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,360
into us for two hundred thousand. Now AND i was

616
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,719
so relieved, because you, KNOW i, said you know they're firing.

617
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,199
You you, know they just forgot last. Night, anyway so

618
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,360
he looks at me and he, goes so what did

619
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,039
you learn here?

620
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: Today?

621
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: Kid because they loved and TEACH i. FROZE i didn't

622
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,119
know what to. SAY i said something, dumb like you

623
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:41,000
just got to keep a positive, attitude and he, goes,

624
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:44,599
no that's not what you learn here? Today here's what

625
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:48,000
you learned, today and he sticks his finger right in

626
00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:53,280
my face and, goes don't sweat the, money just keep

627
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:53,639
me at the.

628
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 3: Table wow, wow because, there you, know the reputation was

629
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,199
that they sweated the money like crazy there at.

630
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: Least but he told me and then he finished because

631
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,760
this happened too many a lot with the chuckle, GOING

632
00:35:11,199 --> 00:35:15,599
i think you're gonna be, okay, Kid, WOW i got

633
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:19,119
Another milton Jeff daphne story like this one. Unrelated but

634
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,639
so he comes up to me in the pit and

635
00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:27,440
he's got this string in his hand about a foot.

636
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,639
Long then he takes with his right, hand he takes

637
00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:32,559
a string and he puts a knot in it with one.

638
00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:35,800
Hand then he puts the rope into the little string

639
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,119
into his left, hand and he ties another knot in

640
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:40,519
it with one, hand and then he puts a third

641
00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:40,880
one in.

642
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:41,079
Speaker 3: It.

643
00:35:41,679 --> 00:35:44,639
Speaker 2: Right so he does all this stuff with his hands

644
00:35:44,639 --> 00:35:49,519
in proof that baby is. Gone you, know no, Clue he,

645
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:53,119
goes so where do you think it? WENT i, have Mister,

646
00:35:53,199 --> 00:35:56,079
JEFFY i had no. Idea he, goes, well what did

647
00:35:56,119 --> 00:36:00,480
you learn here? Today AND i, GO i guess that

648
00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:04,159
the eye the hand is quicker than the.

649
00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:06,559
Speaker 1: Eye he, goes, good he, goes what else did you?

650
00:36:06,639 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: Learn AND i go he, goes here's what else you.

651
00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:15,280
Learned don't let people get too close to. YOU i

652
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,800
didn't know what that. Meant he, goes reach into your

653
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,760
right hand suit.

654
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: Pocket SO i did guess what was in?

655
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 2: There the? Stream, yeah he, goes someone nudges, you bumps.

656
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,559
You you immediately go to your pockets for your. Cash

657
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,199
immediately he goes that, Way you're not gonna ever get.

658
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,280
Ticked don't let people get that closed. On we don't

659
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:45,239
do the hugging. Thing so you're teaching me how to not.

660
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:51,280
Pickpocket so that's How that's how these guys really. Were

661
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:58,039
SO i just had the the greatest experience with those

662
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:01,280
guys and the way it, is it was a pretty good.

663
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,880
Story so my father was in the restaurant. Business BENDING

664
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:09,280
i had the dream of having An italian restaurant In Las.

665
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: Vegas of all Police so, wait, Wait i'm, sorry your

666
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,559
father had An italian restaurant In Las.

667
00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: Vegas he had, restaurants cafeterias inside of these big industrial

668
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:24,239
complexes mostly that made stuff for the, military bombs and all,

669
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,679
That and he would have restaurants inside those, places. Cafeterias,

670
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,199
yeah he. Had he Made italian, sausage he had his

671
00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:35,679
own sausage company's Own Jarden air, Company. Pepper's, yeah he

672
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:36,159
had a lot of.

673
00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: Stuff but did you say he had a restaurant In? Vegas?

674
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,679
NO i wanted, To oh you want, okay.

675
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,039
Speaker 2: OKAY i wanted to follow his swit. Set so anyway that.

676
00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:49,360
HAPPENED i hooked up with a couple fraternity brothers and

677
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,119
we're gonna put this thing together called The Untouchable Sound.

678
00:37:53,159 --> 00:37:55,800
Shop and keep the. Brief it was a salmon shop

679
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,920
and each sandus was the name of the, game The Frank,

680
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:04,519
Nady italian sat Al, Capone italian Beach, Leg's diamond cornbe you.

681
00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:08,280
Know and then we delivered all Those So i'm at

682
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:14,840
the start us back and this is after A. FOXES

683
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,000
i went back AND i actually Deult crafts for a little,

684
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,000
bit and they promised me we have something else, coming

685
00:38:21,159 --> 00:38:24,719
meaning in the, stardust you know WHAT i. Mean so

686
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,840
Now i'm gonna quit to open up the. Restaurant, well

687
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,760
you just don't. Quit you got to go to the

688
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,559
casino manager about who at the time Was Bobby stella

689
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,239
the same timeframe as what was the comedian who played

690
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:38,679
him in the.

691
00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: Movie Don.

692
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: Rickles. Yeah so SO i went to Mister stella AND

693
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,800
i explained the situation and he starts taking it and he, goes.

694
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,000
Chit he, goes, Wow i'm really kind of. Surprised he,

695
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,599
goes you, know we invested a lot of time and

696
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:55,239
money in, you and now you're telling us you want

697
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,039
to go do the restaurant. THING i know your dad's

698
00:38:59,039 --> 00:39:02,880
in the. RESTAURANT i get. It he, Goes if you

699
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,039
really have your heart set on, that go ahead and do.

700
00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:08,639
It you have our Blessed you don't have to, worry

701
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,440
feel guilty or. Nothing something goes. Wrong you, know it's

702
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,519
a tough business. Restaurant you can always come back here

703
00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:17,719
and work for, us but you can't be a boss.

704
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,559
AGAIN i go. Okay he, goes oh, yeah and one other.

705
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:26,639
Thing we're gonna support. You but the cops money is no.

706
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,880
Good And i'm looking at what. Huh, yeah the cops

707
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,880
money is no. Good so when they come, in you.

708
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,639
Come that's how we do. It so that's the only

709
00:39:35,679 --> 00:39:37,639
FAVOR i. Wanted you don't worry about. It we'll set

710
00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:39,639
all kinds of people down. There so NOW i got

711
00:39:39,639 --> 00:39:41,239
to go back to my partners that, go we get

712
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:44,679
we're caving the cops, boys and't it anyway to make

713
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,320
a long story short on that when it is the

714
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,119
best thing that ever. Happened we were open twenty four,

715
00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:56,159
hours high density. Thing where was the Shot it was

716
00:39:56,199 --> 00:40:00,239
on just one block Off Maryland parkway on twin and

717
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:05,039
right behind it were something crazy like twenty thousand. Apartments

718
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,639
yeah that's right WHERE i. Lived, yeah, yeah that's. So you,

719
00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:14,840
know they would call in and order and we would. Deliver,

720
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,599
now the delivery boys.

721
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,199
Speaker 1: Had a hat what do you call? It fedora?

722
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: Hat and they had a real, lightweight short trench coat

723
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,679
on and they carried a violin case and inside the

724
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:28,719
violin case were the.

725
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,039
Speaker 1: Sandwiches that's.

726
00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: Funny so when they went up to the, door they'd. Open,

727
00:40:32,519 --> 00:40:35,360
now you, know the biggest PROBLEM i had was getting

728
00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:40,280
the delivery boys back because they were all getting it

729
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,920
down with the. Girls i'm telling you it was hard

730
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,440
to get him. Back but they made a. Fortune, yeah

731
00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:47,360
and they. Did they came. In we had a cop

732
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,199
card a lot at all. Times we never because it

733
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,760
got out real. Fast oh, yeah the cops worked there

734
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,280
and the Start us owned, it so nobody messed with. Us,

735
00:40:57,559 --> 00:41:00,559
yeah you, know it's kind of, like you know at

736
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:02,880
that time to Start ust, opinions you just didn't get

737
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,800
out all, night right he. Did in, fact this is

738
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,159
a little, Gruesome But i'll tell you a quick story

739
00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:12,039
because EARLIER i SAID i didn't see anybody getting beat

740
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:15,119
up or. Anything but so When I'm i'm breaking in

741
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,559
crafts at The Fremont, graveyard get off at, noon and

742
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:21,599
every DAY i would go right across the street To

743
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,000
Bidion's horseshoe because they had the main bar and it

744
00:41:25,079 --> 00:41:27,440
was fifty cent. Drains they had no slots on the

745
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,519
bars back, then you. Know so you, KNOW i was

746
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:32,239
there for a little over a. YEAR i got to

747
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,400
know the, Bartender, luise who wound up staying there forty

748
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,320
two years or.

749
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 1: Something got to know him real.

750
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: Well and it's right ACROSS i mean it's eight feet

751
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,039
from the, crab it's from the dice, pit And louis

752
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,559
points over at the you, know something's going, down AND

753
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:48,800
i look over. There you Got Jack, binyon a guy

754
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,760
who's probably the shift boss and probably the casino, manager

755
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,599
and they're hawking this. Game SO i kind of stood

756
00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:59,440
up to look at the, game and it ain't that

757
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,480
big a. Deal it's, like what are you looking?

758
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:01,599
Speaker 3: At?

759
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,039
Speaker 1: Man you know WHAT i?

760
00:42:03,039 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: Mean it's, like, huh.

761
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,559
Speaker 1: Not a lot of money on the.

762
00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 2: Table, YEAH i, know there's standard. Stuff and there's these

763
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,239
three high powered, guys Including Jack benyon, himself watching the.

764
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,079
Game all of a, Sudden benyon himself puts his hand

765
00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:20,440
out over the, table stops the, game takes his hand

766
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:26,599
and reaches it down inside of the boxman's suit gilt

767
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,039
and pulls out a handful of green.

768
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:29,559
Speaker 1: Checks.

769
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 2: Wow now this boxman used to be a boxman at The.

770
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,239
STARDUST i actually knew the, guy not very, well BUT

771
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,320
i MEAN i knew he was you get him. Up

772
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,639
and at that, time you heard all kind of stories

773
00:42:44,639 --> 00:42:47,119
about you do something At benyons and they take it

774
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,920
down the, stairs and you heard all that, stuff, RIGHT.

775
00:42:51,039 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: I and two friends that they did that, too actually

776
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:54,920
beat them half to.

777
00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:02,119
Speaker 2: Death, okay SO i Guess i'm verifying. It the bathroom

778
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:04,519
at The freemont is right across the street from the

779
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,239
entrance To, benyons on the side of the the first

780
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,960
street or whatever it. Is so BEFORE i go up

781
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,480
to my. Car AFTER i, LEFT i go into the

782
00:43:13,519 --> 00:43:17,280
bathroom at The fremont AND i walk in and in

783
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,079
one of the bathrooms stall you can see a guy's

784
00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:23,760
laying down his feet are like out, Right i'm going On.

785
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,920
NO i opened the, door take in and it's the

786
00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:33,400
box man and he's bleeding from. Everywhere it's all. OVER

787
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,320
i freaked, out SO i went out AND i got you,

788
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,480
know he had house. PHONES i got the. HOUSEHOLD i,

789
00:43:38,519 --> 00:43:45,159
called not THINKING i call Stick charity to save the.

790
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,639
Guy but THEN i, figured, well it's Not bingon, security It's.

791
00:43:48,679 --> 00:43:50,840
Freemont they probably don't, know and you can't let the

792
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,400
guy just lay. There and THEN i got out of

793
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,159
there as fast AS i. COULD i never said a.

794
00:43:55,199 --> 00:43:57,559
WORD i don't know what. Happened he was in bad.

795
00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:01,519
Speaker 1: Shape. Wow. Yeah you know what's funny is WHEN i

796
00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:08,239
was a, dealer maybe three or four people got caught

797
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:14,000
stealing from joints and you, know and got, fired and

798
00:44:14,199 --> 00:44:16,639
every single one of. Them the next TIME i saw,

799
00:44:16,679 --> 00:44:20,400
them they were dealing at The horseshoe AND i asked

800
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,239
a boss THAT i worked, with kind of an old timer,

801
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,360
guy AND i was, like all these guys got caught

802
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,320
stealing and the next TIME i see, him they're dealing

803
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,960
at The horseshoe and and he, says, yeah they'll hire

804
00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:34,840
him because they figure like nobody's going to have the

805
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,559
balls to try to steal from. Them.

806
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,599
Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean, well you, know there were some real ironclad.

807
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:46,599
Rules first of, all all these old they used to

808
00:44:46,679 --> 00:44:50,840
call the mustache. Pets, yeah their work ethic was beyond.

809
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,679
Believe these guys are. Old they never ever missed the

810
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:00,639
day of. Work they were never late. Ever it was.

811
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,519
UNBELIEVABLE i mean they had to be going to the

812
00:45:03,559 --> 00:45:05,719
hospital before they would miss the day at. Work all

813
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,719
these old, guys it was. Unbelievable so you couldn't this.

814
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,840
Work you had to be on time because the whole

815
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,679
casino ran on on the.

816
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: Clock you.

817
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: Know you, know you couldn't steal, obviously but we would

818
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,800
never even think of. That it never even crossed my

819
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,519
mind once working for at The, stardos you, know you

820
00:45:27,519 --> 00:45:31,800
know What i'm, saying Yuh And and what was the other. Thing,

821
00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:34,440
yeah the other thing was you couldn't wear white, belts white,

822
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,440
shoes and you couldn't have any facial.

823
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: HAIR i remember, that no facial, Hair BUT I i

824
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,960
never heard the white belt or. WHITE i, mean we

825
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,039
always had to wear black shoes and black pants and you,

826
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:46,559
know so.

827
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: And then, yeah they had another weird one at the

828
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,280
start us no peanuts in the pit because they were

829
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,159
so superstitious about, everything is.

830
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: It, yeah you, KNOW I i worked with a lot of,

831
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,000
those not a, lot but some of those old Must

832
00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:02,639
Stash pete. Guys and my big regret is THAT i

833
00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:06,760
didn't spend more time talking to those. Guys guys who

834
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,800
worked in illegal joints In, Newport, kentucky Or Hot, Springs,

835
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,360
arkansas and you, know really came Into vegas like in

836
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,360
the fifties and, sixties.

837
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah and and most of those, GUYS i DON'T

838
00:46:20,119 --> 00:46:21,480
i don't. KNOW i don't know IF i was smart

839
00:46:21,559 --> 00:46:23,400
enough at the time or IF i just did. It

840
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:28,280
but they liked talking to younger. People you, know they

841
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,800
don't got nothing to, do they're in charge of. It,

842
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,239
yeah they loved talking to young people and kind of teaching.

843
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,519
Them as long as you kind of proved to them

844
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:41,159
that you were actually listening and you had you know

845
00:46:41,199 --> 00:46:43,159
WHAT i, mean that you weren't some wise guy trying

846
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:45,960
to be funny all the. Time they would pick you

847
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,000
out just on THAT i gotta go back to my.

848
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:55,840
JUICE i gotta finish that. Story oh, yeah so about

849
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,760
twenty or twenty five, years twenty years after the, starters

850
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,199
so we're talking about Late i'm gonna say maybe ninety,

851
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,199
five ninety four somewhere in. There, anyway so we're at

852
00:47:09,199 --> 00:47:13,039
the table and my father's tired down In, arizona and

853
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:15,360
we're at the table talking about the old days In,

854
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,360
vegas and you, know, so you, know how'd you get

855
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,320
to the stardust came up AND i, said, well you,

856
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,519
KNOW i GUESS i must have done pretty good because

857
00:47:25,039 --> 00:47:27,719
these guys just discovered me out of. Nowhere, MAN i,

858
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,760
MEAN i THINK i was Really. Sully to my dad's

859
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,239
looking at, me he, goes what he, goes, yeah THAT i,

860
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,519
mean you, KNOW i think they found me and discovered,

861
00:47:39,559 --> 00:47:40,559
me and you, KNOW i was.

862
00:47:40,639 --> 00:47:44,039
Speaker 1: Lucky he, goes that's not what, happened and he.

863
00:47:44,119 --> 00:47:48,519
Speaker 2: GOES i Called Phil, diogardi who was the twenty one

864
00:47:48,559 --> 00:47:51,320
BOSS i think for forty two years at THE.

865
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,599
Speaker 1: Startus he was a.

866
00:47:52,679 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 2: LEGEND i Called phil Dio. GUARDIAN i, told, look my

867
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,960
son's in. Town could you give him a job and

868
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:00,960
kind of look after. Him so it doesn't get in.

869
00:48:01,039 --> 00:48:04,679
TROUBLE i don't want any. Problems And phil hired you.

870
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,559
Again he, Said phil Dear gott he brought. UP i

871
00:48:08,559 --> 00:48:10,639
didn't know Who phil Dear gott he was until. Later

872
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,800
and then the same With Luis, CLENA i didn't know

873
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,239
who he, was you. Know so twenty years LATER i

874
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,559
actually found out who my juice. Was and my father

875
00:48:19,639 --> 00:48:22,880
never said anything those whole twenty. Years it was pretty.

876
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,360
Amazing but so.

877
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:28,519
Speaker 1: What happened after the sandwich? Shop you you opened the sandwich?

878
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:32,559
Speaker 2: Shop, yeah that's a bad. Story by, TIME i just

879
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:34,920
blew it with my, partners lost my, share AND i

880
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,199
went back to, dealing and then from, DEALING i got

881
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,599
into the telemarketing. BUSINESS i became a really big telemarketer in.

882
00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:45,199
Town that's a story for a different time, Maybe BUT

883
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,199
i got one other STORE i think your folks will.

884
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,039
Like it's about my, Sponsor Louis celenna From Milrose. Park

885
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,480
so he's the graveyard shiftwa wash and we really hit it.

886
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,880
Off he really liked, me and he was. Interesting and

887
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,679
as all these guys, were they Were sharper's tax they really.

888
00:49:06,679 --> 00:49:09,360
Were they could read people like no One i've ever

889
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,360
seen since ofs so. Anyway out of the. Blue one

890
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,639
Day louis, goes, so, KID i think it was there

891
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,719
three or four months, maybe and he, GOES, o, kid

892
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,800
where are you? Living AND i told, him, Well i'm

893
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,760
living off on the other side of The tropicana Country

894
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,559
club there. OFF i can't remember the name of the.

895
00:49:27,559 --> 00:49:29,800
Street i'll think of it the. Second but he had

896
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,519
these apartments on one, side and he had the golf

897
00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:34,840
course with the condos on the other, side right past

898
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,679
The maxim what's the name of that street right behind

899
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:43,519
where the, yes thank You Coo cobo. Lane SO i

900
00:49:43,559 --> 00:49:46,920
told him. That he, goes you're staying in those? PLACES i, go,

901
00:49:47,039 --> 00:49:51,159
yeah it's. Okay so it's a studio type of. THING i,

902
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:55,400
go that is an. SHOLE i, go, no it's, Okay.

903
00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:57,440
LOUIS i Mean i'm here six days a.

904
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:58,119
Speaker 1: Week you.

905
00:49:58,199 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 2: Know he Goes, No he, GOES i will not have.

906
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,119
It he will not be standing. There and he goes

907
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,559
tomorrow after the, ship twelve, THIRTY i want you to

908
00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:10,400
Meet bruno across the street at those. Comps you're gonna

909
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,400
know Who bruno. Is trust, me twelve thirty you be, there, yes,

910
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,440
SIR i mean and say no the shift, boss you,

911
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:22,639
know so get off work twelve. Thirty sure, enough there's

912
00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:25,800
this giant dude with all the gold chains on Named.

913
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,440
Bruno oh you must be the. Kid, yeah let me

914
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,599
shut me coming. Down so, yeah let me show you

915
00:50:31,679 --> 00:50:33,920
in the. Pad so he opens up the door and

916
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,039
it's a totally tricked out two. Bedroom what DO i

917
00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:41,400
need two bedrooms for two? Bedroom sweet on the golf.

918
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,519
Course i'll never forget walking in the bathroom and they

919
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,480
had one of those brass lion heads where the water

920
00:50:48,599 --> 00:50:49,119
came out the.

921
00:50:49,159 --> 00:50:51,679
Speaker 1: MOUTH i was, like that was it for, me you.

922
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 2: Know so the guy comes. Back he, says come, on

923
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,599
let's go look at your. Backyard so he opens up the,

924
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:02,920
curtains opens up the door and it's just grass all

925
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:09,840
the way to the eleventh eighth hole of The Tropicana Golf.

926
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,840
Course there's no. FENCES i mean you just walk out

927
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,079
by twenty feet twenty thirty.

928
00:51:13,079 --> 00:51:13,519
Speaker 1: Feet it was.

929
00:51:13,559 --> 00:51:18,039
Speaker 2: Incredible So louie told, me he, goes when you're done

930
00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:21,719
With bruno at one, THIRTY i want you to go

931
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,599
and check out the. POOL i, go, sure, okay, yeah

932
00:51:25,639 --> 00:51:30,880
one thirty. Okay Well bruno was pretty efficient and we

933
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,639
were done at like, Wan, so, oh, YEAH i got

934
00:51:34,639 --> 00:51:36,119
to check out the. Pool SO i go down to

935
00:51:36,119 --> 00:51:39,519
the pool and look at the, pool and it's a.

936
00:51:39,559 --> 00:51:42,559
Pool you, know it's really, nice very, clean all the chase,

937
00:51:42,639 --> 00:51:45,639
lounges you, know but it's a, pool you, know.

938
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: Beautiful.

939
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 2: Okay SO i get to work the next day and, goes,

940
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,320
SO i, mean even go, bro it's all. Great and he,

941
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,199
goes how did you like the? POOL i, go it was.

942
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,840
Beautiful crystal cleare. Clean they really have good in, maintenance you.

943
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,039
Know he, goes, yeah but how did you like the?

944
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:02,639
Pool LIKE i was supposed to be in it or,

945
00:52:02,679 --> 00:52:06,639
something you, KNOW i didn't. NOTICE i, go, yeah it's a.

946
00:52:06,679 --> 00:52:09,280
Pool it's, like it's really nice AND i appreciate. It he,

947
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,000
goes when did you go down? THERE i, GO i don't.

948
00:52:12,039 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 1: Know we were down to like five to.

949
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,159
Speaker 2: ONE i probably one. O'clock he, GOES i told you one,

950
00:52:16,199 --> 00:52:18,039
thirty DIDN'T. I i told you to go down there

951
00:52:18,039 --> 00:52:19,920
at one. THIRTY i didn't say one. O'CLOCK i said one.

952
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:24,159
Thirty he's, like at, It i'm going, okay. Okay he, goes,

953
00:52:24,199 --> 00:52:26,679
TOMORROW i want you there at one, thirty not one twenty,

954
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,519
nine not one thirty one one. THIRTY i, go, yes.

955
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:34,719
Sir next day rolls. Around i'm looking at my, watch

956
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,360
it's one twenty, nine almost one. Thirty i'm off to the,

957
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,519
pool and right in front of the gate is the

958
00:52:42,639 --> 00:52:46,559
same guy from the pit buster is his knee six,

959
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:54,039
five three hundred pounds hut packing with a startist security uniform.

960
00:52:54,119 --> 00:52:57,960
ON i, mean just a huge. Dude AND i walk

961
00:52:58,159 --> 00:53:01,800
up seeing this guy and he, goes, yeah Kid louise

962
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,599
said to be coming. Today he, goes have a good

963
00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:07,920
time in. There And i'm looking at this guy like,

964
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:14,840
okay AND i opened the gate and my jaw drops

965
00:53:15,559 --> 00:53:18,159
AND i freeze BECAUSE i don't.

966
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: Know what to.

967
00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 2: Do there are five of the most beautiful women you

968
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,159
have ever seen in.

969
00:53:27,199 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: Your, life and all five of them are.

970
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:37,559
Speaker 2: Naked fuck, naked nothing there walking around or in the

971
00:53:37,639 --> 00:53:41,920
chaise lounge. CHAIRS i didn't know what to. Do so

972
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:44,960
one of them comes, up never forget name Of. Sherry she, goes,

973
00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:46,760
oh you must be the Kid louis said you were

974
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,320
gonna come. Down and she, goes, yeah don't worry about all.

975
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,960
This she, goes you're gonna get used to. This you,

976
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,000
know we're dancers in The lido and we can't get.

977
00:53:56,559 --> 00:53:59,199
Tamline so we come out here a couple of days

978
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,079
at you, know we don't got to worry about anything

979
00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:06,639
because we Got buster, here you, Know and SO i

980
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:13,719
met the. Girls here's what here's what What buster's role really.

981
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,159
Was it was. INSANE i used to watch us all the.

982
00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:20,320
Time so we're on the. Fifth uh, no, yeah, athol

983
00:54:20,679 --> 00:54:23,800
it's a par, Five so they're tee off and then

984
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:29,559
these jokers would intentionally duck hook their second shot by

985
00:54:29,639 --> 00:54:33,760
the pool so they can walk by and see the,

986
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,920
girls right because they knew they Were, well guess you're

987
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,519
standing out there on the edge of.

988
00:54:38,519 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: The, fairway Old, buster.

989
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 2: Did you see a ball come? By? Here he goes see.

990
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:49,480
It it's way out of, bounce lost. Ball you, Know,

991
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,960
well can we come in and that ball's? Gone now

992
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,559
the green's only one hundred and twenty yards from. Me

993
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:57,800
you can drop one right.

994
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:58,119
Speaker 1: Here.

995
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah but he was there to keep the riff raff

996
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:04,000
away from the.

997
00:55:04,039 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: Girls but, Yeah, so now were they paying for this

998
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,400
new apartment or?

999
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:12,039
Speaker 2: No, no, no, NO i paid for. It because that's another

1000
00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:15,039
shock to. ME i, go, ah you don't worry about.

1001
00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:16,760
It you're making good. Money you'll be able to afford.

1002
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:17,440
It don't worry about.

1003
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: Nothing and he was.

1004
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: Right it was totally. Affordable SO i don't know about

1005
00:55:21,559 --> 00:55:24,280
the because the girls looked there, too AND i. Didn't

1006
00:55:25,079 --> 00:55:27,159
they were down a little bit for, me AND i

1007
00:55:27,159 --> 00:55:30,360
don't know what their situation, was because once, again you

1008
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,000
know something you don't want to, know don't need to,

1009
00:55:33,039 --> 00:55:35,400
know just LIKE i never went out with any of

1010
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,880
them because you didn't do. That you didn't mess with

1011
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,559
anything at the casino, property you know WHAT i?

1012
00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:44,079
Speaker 1: Mean, yeah, yeah, sure just.

1013
00:55:44,119 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 2: Not there were so many babes you didn't need to do,

1014
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:47,239
that you.

1015
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: Know. You, well, listen we've been going for about an hour,

1016
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,559
here but there are a couple of THINGS i still

1017
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:54,719
have to ask you before we, Go and the first

1018
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:59,519
one is how did An italian kid From cicero turn Into?

1019
00:55:59,679 --> 00:56:04,239
Ay how did? That because every Time i've seen, you

1020
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:09,119
including right, now you're wearing a cowboy hat and we're

1021
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:14,119
always in western, garb and so how did that transformation?

1022
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:21,159
Speaker 2: Happen, Okay So i'll go back in, time so get To,

1023
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,360
vegas AND i guess it really started on one of

1024
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:32,239
the tours With. Frank he didn't, know but we wound

1025
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:38,199
up going to the hacienda and the guy running the

1026
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,840
twenty one kid was this tall six' to. Three guy

1027
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:43,159
he looked like a.

1028
00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: Movie star he looked Like A robert redford.

1029
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: Kind of but he had a really expensive but a

1030
00:56:49,559 --> 00:56:56,119
cowboy yolk, cut jacket, you know and he had boots on. Exotic,

1031
00:56:56,199 --> 00:56:59,400
boots now he was the ONLY one i saw in

1032
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,480
any of our properties wear. Cowboy, boots ever you just didn't.

1033
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:08,440
Wear them he didn't. Do it, so anyway after about the,

1034
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:13,039
second tour and his Name WAS. Big d they so

1035
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:18,559
about two or three months after, That tour i'm Off,

1036
00:57:18,599 --> 00:57:21,719
ON monday i go across the Street On Convention. Center

1037
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,400
drive there can. SILVER something i can't remember what, it

1038
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,480
was but it was a cowboy, place actually, You know

1039
00:57:27,559 --> 00:57:31,079
AND so i kind of started, liking it and all

1040
00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:33,719
of a sudden in comes. This guy ed, the toe

1041
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,000
got the, hat on, the boots, the buckle the, whole

1042
00:57:36,039 --> 00:57:40,800
deal And IT'S. Big d now the guy's about thirty

1043
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,880
years older than he maybe more maybe. Thirty, five well

1044
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,559
we became friends and we. Started partying when this guy,

1045
00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:50,159
walked in every head in the bar looked at.

1046
00:57:50,159 --> 00:57:51,039
Speaker 1: This guy that's.

1047
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,239
Speaker 2: Kind of the persona, he had being. The cowboy so

1048
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:55,239
that's kind of where.

1049
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 3: It.

1050
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 2: Started uh and to finish, that story check. This OUT

1051
00:58:00,199 --> 00:58:03,519
when i got into one of my, telemarketing businesses there's

1052
00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:06,760
a girl about fifteen years younger, than me and she

1053
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,000
used to Joke, About sonday i'm going to. Marry you.

1054
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: Yeah joke not.

1055
00:58:11,559 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 2: Happy anyway to make a long, story short ten, YEARS

1056
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,480
later i did.

1057
00:58:17,559 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: Marry her.

1058
00:58:20,519 --> 00:58:23,519
Speaker 2: So she came from a family where the father was

1059
00:58:23,559 --> 00:58:25,639
here and the mother was there and they're all over,

1060
00:58:25,679 --> 00:58:29,239
the place totally dysfunctional kind of at. That TIME but i,

1061
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,800
didn't know, you KNOW so i.

1062
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: Figure out, you know we got to do the.

1063
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,239
Speaker 2: PROPER thing i got to introduce myself to your father

1064
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:39,760
wherever he is and get. His permission and, she, Goes

1065
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,679
okay so she writes down this address and it's In

1066
00:58:42,719 --> 00:58:46,800
the winterwood Area Of, las vegas by the. Golf course

1067
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,079
AND so i got. To THINK so i get out of,

1068
00:58:50,079 --> 00:58:53,599
the car, walk up a knock on the door Looking for. Kathy's,

1069
00:58:53,639 --> 00:58:59,679
father right guy opens the door And it's big D and, i, go,

1070
00:58:59,679 --> 00:59:02,840
okay dude, he, goes kid where have? YOU been i

1071
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,599
haven't seen it for? Ten years how YOU doing, I

1072
00:59:05,639 --> 00:59:08,039
go i'm. Doing great, he goes what? BRINGS you, i,

1073
00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:11,719
GO well I think i got the wrong. Address here

1074
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:16,679
i'm looking for some Guy Named. Don, galuska yeah that's

1075
00:59:16,719 --> 00:59:21,039
ME and i once again my, jaw Dropped and, i'm

1076
00:59:21,079 --> 00:59:24,199
going this is the guy he used to party. Hard

1077
00:59:25,159 --> 00:59:29,480
with and he gives me one of those looks like

1078
00:59:29,559 --> 00:59:32,320
he's gonna, kill me and then he. Starts laughing, he

1079
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:33,000
goes you must be.

1080
00:59:33,119 --> 00:59:34,079
Speaker 1: The Kid that's.

1081
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 2: Mary and my youngest daughter come. On it and we became.

1082
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,440
Best FRIENDS but i didn't Know THAT big d was

1083
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:39,800
gonna be.

1084
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: My father. That's Funny small so where were we going?

1085
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:45,719
Speaker 2: Before that what did you ask?

1086
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: Me about how does how the? Cowboy? Transition, oh, yeah

1087
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:50,920
okay so that's where. It.

1088
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: Started then, you know Me And max rubin had the

1089
00:59:56,719 --> 01:00:00,719
band and it was predominantly custom country, western music so

1090
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:05,559
that kind of contributed to it and, the rodeos, you

1091
01:00:05,559 --> 01:00:08,079
KNOW so i just kind of got. INTO it i

1092
01:00:08,079 --> 01:00:13,239
really wasn't a, real Cowboy although i'm, getting THERE but

1093
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,840
i was used to wear a country western stuff. On stage.

1094
01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:18,079
You know for the twenty five years we played all

1095
01:00:18,119 --> 01:00:20,599
the lounges and all the bars and.

1096
01:00:20,559 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: All that but where it really.

1097
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:28,599
Speaker 2: Kind of proliferated is At The black jab because everybody Had,

1098
01:00:28,639 --> 01:00:32,079
a monica everybody, had Nickname and max Called Me. Cowboy

1099
01:00:32,119 --> 01:00:34,800
boss so that's how it really got kind. Of entrenched

1100
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,280
but when it really took effect WAS when i moved

1101
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:42,639
and retired Here to FLORIDA because i got this job

1102
01:00:43,199 --> 01:00:46,519
running a. PARKING lot i so. Parking, ATTENDANT no i

1103
01:00:46,519 --> 01:00:48,440
don't get in the car and. DRIVE it i move

1104
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,400
a cone and. Parking there it turns out to be

1105
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,960
one of the most lucrative jobs on the. Whole, ISLAND

1106
01:00:53,639 --> 01:00:55,639
anyway i would wear the cowboy HAT and i would

1107
01:00:55,679 --> 01:00:58,800
wear this and the belt buckle and my bat my

1108
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,480
thing would say cow. Boy bus so on a, Daily

1109
01:01:02,519 --> 01:01:05,159
basis i'm still, WORKING there i will meet and greet

1110
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:09,360
anywhere from about seven hundred to eight hundred people. A

1111
01:01:09,519 --> 01:01:12,039
day that's howbody walk, by me because you got to

1112
01:01:12,079 --> 01:01:14,159
walk by me to get To The bridge street into.

1113
01:01:14,199 --> 01:01:18,960
The beach so set. Cowboy BUS so i turned the

1114
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,519
whole deal Into a vegas lounge. Show, act oh first

1115
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:24,960
time Here On. Bridge, street okay let me tell you

1116
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,199
how they get the most out. Of, it okay when

1117
01:01:27,199 --> 01:01:29,239
you get out there On. The street whenever you. Get

1118
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,280
there it doesn't matter where. You go when you, get

1119
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:35,280
there you just tell them cowboy bus set you and

1120
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,519
they'll take care, of you or they'll charge.

1121
01:01:38,559 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: You double.

1122
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,719
Speaker 2: So what these people, would do these twuris would go

1123
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,920
whatever shop, they're in they would go in and, they say,

1124
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,119
cowboy bus, send me and it kind of. Caught on

1125
01:01:49,199 --> 01:01:53,920
so then the whole island started calling me. Cowboy bus to,

1126
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,079
THIS day, I think, I again i'm not trying, to

1127
01:01:57,199 --> 01:02:00,400
ARROGANT but i was written up last year one of

1128
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,599
the top, five personalities but nobody knows.

1129
01:02:02,639 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: My name, right now you perform? Still right you played guitar,

1130
01:02:08,119 --> 01:02:08,920
and SING and.

1131
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:13,599
Speaker 2: I performed twice a week at the world famous one

1132
01:02:13,679 --> 01:02:18,599
hundred year old, drift in which is the it's kind

1133
01:02:18,599 --> 01:02:22,360
of like the World Famous jimmy buffett style bar on

1134
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,960
the beach Here On Ana. Maria island really really, good

1135
01:02:26,039 --> 01:02:28,639
musicians and so they let me get up. And sing

1136
01:02:28,639 --> 01:02:30,880
AND now i sing twice. A week He's on, Friday afternoon,

1137
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:37,400
saturday afternoon but it's it's one hundred five star. Dive,

1138
01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:40,280
Bar again i'm the only one with they. Had on but.

1139
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,559
Speaker 1: So there's one LAST thing i just want to ask

1140
01:02:44,599 --> 01:02:48,760
you about that IS so i met You Through max

1141
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,440
Rubin And, anthony curtis who you guys were on a

1142
01:02:52,639 --> 01:02:58,159
rugby team together for a. Long Time and max tells

1143
01:02:58,199 --> 01:03:00,239
me that you are still. Play.

1144
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 2: Rugby Yees so, i'm saying how old? Are you i'm

1145
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:09,880
seventy three And this, december twelfth which is what about

1146
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:14,519
ten days? Or, WHATEVER yeah i will start my fifty

1147
01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:19,480
third consecutive. Rugby season NOW sometimes i only play two games,

1148
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,360
a year, but SO and i. Don't know my wife

1149
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,360
is trying to get me to retire after. This one

1150
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,000
it's Down In fort lauderdale At The rugger fist.

1151
01:03:27,079 --> 01:03:30,519
Speaker 1: Down there i'm? WHAT about, i mean how old are

1152
01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:31,199
the people you're?

1153
01:03:31,239 --> 01:03:36,159
Speaker 2: Playing With so i'll play one game over fifties and

1154
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:40,280
one game. Over, Sixties wow now the fifties game is.

1155
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,880
A CHALLENGE i m not only pay ten or fifteen minutes. In,

1156
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:47,119
that yeah maybe, we'll See but i'll go a good

1157
01:03:47,199 --> 01:03:50,760
half the in the over sixties OR until i can't.

1158
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:55,480
Go see because the way you, do it, you know you, Would,

1159
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,679
Think okay i'm gonna save MYSELF so i don't. Get hurt,

1160
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,159
you Know just. E's, Out, no no.

1161
01:04:01,679 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: You will get hurt.

1162
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:06,639
Speaker 2: For sure that way we have balls out from the

1163
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,800
very get go until you can't, go anymore and then

1164
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,679
you don't. Play them then you, come out and that

1165
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,480
way time and. Come out.

1166
01:04:13,519 --> 01:04:16,239
Speaker 1: You, know yeah that way they're more afraid of them

1167
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,039
getting hurt. By you so, you, uh.

1168
01:04:19,079 --> 01:04:22,639
Speaker 2: Oh if you, go halfway you just. Get, hurt yeah

1169
01:04:22,679 --> 01:04:24,920
you're just gonna. Get hurt, you know we got no.

1170
01:04:25,039 --> 01:04:28,000
Pads on you can only hit somebody so hard with

1171
01:04:28,079 --> 01:04:32,320
no pads on before you. Hurt yourself so, you know

1172
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,760
you just gotta go all out or you will. Get

1173
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,599
hurt plus then like, for me the deal's over in.

1174
01:04:37,639 --> 01:04:42,679
Eighteen minutes so what. It's great we're gonna tell you

1175
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,679
the last one if you. Got, time yep this is a.

1176
01:04:45,719 --> 01:04:49,360
Good one this IS how I MET max rubi check this,

1177
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:54,280
out now kind of bring you through rugby and the

1178
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:58,039
band and the. Whole Thing SO i'm i got the

1179
01:04:58,159 --> 01:05:00,800
job at the at. THE minute i got a fraternity

1180
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:05,199
brother who Lives In, las vegas and He knows max

1181
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:10,119
because they're OLDER than i am in. The FRATERNITY so i, say,

1182
01:05:10,159 --> 01:05:12,639
Him yeah i'm Going, to Vegas but i'm gonna go

1183
01:05:12,719 --> 01:05:15,960
Check Out lake. Tahoe too i'm all Set. In vegas, he,

1184
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,639
goes well if you're going, up there here's this guy's name,

1185
01:05:19,679 --> 01:05:21,280
and number give him. A call you need to meet.

1186
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,760
This guy he's, a brother, older guy and It Was.

1187
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:30,320
Matt TRUMAN so i drive up to the lake going

1188
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:37,679
To The Old scotties Castle and max is dealing blackjack

1189
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,840
and the. Game's DEAD so i. Introduced myself, he goes,

1190
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,760
oh yeah and, he, GOES so i got another three.

1191
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,639
Hours here why don't you take my car and drive

1192
01:05:48,639 --> 01:05:50,360
all the way around. The lake this way you get to.

1193
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,639
See EVERYTHING and, I go i got, A car. I'm good, he, goes,

1194
01:05:53,679 --> 01:05:56,199
no no take, my car and he wipes his hands like,

1195
01:05:56,239 --> 01:05:59,480
a dealer looks at. The, floor men those are, his

1196
01:05:59,559 --> 01:06:02,960
pocket out, his keys and throws him. At me, i'm, going,

1197
01:06:03,519 --> 01:06:08,000
Okay OKAY well i. Didn't KNOW so i go out

1198
01:06:08,039 --> 01:06:11,000
to parking lot number fifty four and it's a. Light

1199
01:06:11,239 --> 01:06:20,119
convertible poor never driven a portion in, My LIFE so

1200
01:06:20,199 --> 01:06:23,039
i drive all the way around. The Lake couldn't THAT'S

1201
01:06:23,039 --> 01:06:23,519
how i first.

1202
01:06:23,599 --> 01:06:26,039
Speaker 1: Met, HIM so, i mean that's pretty amazing to just

1203
01:06:26,199 --> 01:06:28,599
hand his portions to a guy he's never.

1204
01:06:28,519 --> 01:06:32,599
Speaker 2: Met BEFORE don't i Don't think i'd spent a minim with.

1205
01:06:32,639 --> 01:06:33,559
Speaker 1: Him yet it was.

1206
01:06:33,599 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 2: That past, so anyway so then he winds up moving

1207
01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:43,079
back down To to vegas and he was dealing blackjacket.

1208
01:06:43,079 --> 01:06:46,280
The frontier and because we were, for training brothers who

1209
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,000
got to know each other and this, And that and

1210
01:06:49,039 --> 01:06:53,639
it TURNS out i got the band Started and max

1211
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,880
could actually. PLAY harmonica i mean you.

1212
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: Actually.

1213
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,519
Speaker 2: Could yeah now he will tell you he's a. GREAT

1214
01:07:00,559 --> 01:07:06,639
singer i would put him as a. Great entertainer we

1215
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,079
do actual or playing. The harmonica so we put it

1216
01:07:10,119 --> 01:07:13,840
in the band, and wow we played sharows together for twenty,

1217
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,000
five years everywhere you can think Of. In vegas along,

1218
01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:17,480
with that.

1219
01:07:20,159 --> 01:07:22,159
Speaker 1: He was just a.

1220
01:07:22,199 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 2: Stud man he, was fit and turns out he was.

1221
01:07:26,199 --> 01:07:30,880
Lightning fast the boy, could run this little.

1222
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: White, boy.

1223
01:07:31,639 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah BABY so i invited him to play rugby football

1224
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,599
because we had just we we started the team in nineteen,

1225
01:07:41,639 --> 01:07:44,639
SEVENTY five i think, it WAS and I think max

1226
01:07:44,679 --> 01:07:47,159
got there in seventy six, or seven something.

1227
01:07:47,239 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: Like that and he.

1228
01:07:49,599 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 2: Was good he was. Really good, in fact he played the,

1229
01:07:52,519 --> 01:07:55,039
outside winger which means the kind of the goals get

1230
01:07:55,079 --> 01:07:59,159
the ball out, to him so you can move and

1231
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,320
shake because one on one tackling a guy that isn't.

1232
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,559
Gonna happen, so anyway he wound up scoring a lot.

1233
01:08:05,599 --> 01:08:11,639
Of points he's. Really good and then Along Came, anthony

1234
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:17,000
curtis some this wrestler guy FROM somewhere i, can't Remember,

1235
01:08:17,119 --> 01:08:22,439
zash yeah some. Were, Famous yeah and this guy, was

1236
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:30,039
fast like Faster Than. Max megalong story. Short Again anthony

1237
01:08:30,079 --> 01:08:36,039
curtis went on to break every single scoring Record For

1238
01:08:36,119 --> 01:08:38,960
las vegas rugby until another guy by the Name Of

1239
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,760
mike rude. Came Along But anthony curtis was as good

1240
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,720
as rugby player as you're. Gonna, see seriously he was.

1241
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:51,600
That Good so I'm at max there and we did the.

1242
01:08:53,159 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: What do you?

1243
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 2: Call it, the band and we did. RUGBY together i

1244
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,159
could tell so many, rugby stories but we're run out

1245
01:08:59,159 --> 01:08:59,720
of time a little.

1246
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 1: Bit here and OF course i was at the very

1247
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,439
first blackjack ball in.

1248
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 2: THE basement. I was i was ACTUALLY the mc reading.

1249
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: THE questions i didn't REMEMBER that i was, there TOO

1250
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,159
but i didn't remember you were the one reading.

1251
01:09:13,199 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 2: The, questions well they were asking such they were so over.

1252
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,199
MY head, I mean i learned so much about blackjack

1253
01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:21,560
you know from you guys, And Others but i'm not in.

1254
01:09:21,199 --> 01:09:24,079
Your league i'm not one, of you, YOU know, i

1255
01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:28,079
KNOW but i remember like. THE question i didn't even understand.

1256
01:09:28,079 --> 01:09:30,279
The QUESTION little i know how to. Answer it it

1257
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:33,239
was something like on a six deck Using a miraj's

1258
01:09:33,239 --> 01:09:35,960
show for fifty two percent of the way through the

1259
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:39,279
deck counted plus four USING a calli betting system to

1260
01:09:39,319 --> 01:09:41,920
win fifteen hundred dollars in? An hour what's the? Proper

1261
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,079
bet and all you guys set seventy five dollars. Or

1262
01:09:45,119 --> 01:09:48,239
whatever it was, no, computer no not that, it's like

1263
01:09:48,399 --> 01:09:54,159
who are? These? Guys oh but there's so?

1264
01:09:54,279 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 1: Much fun, All, right, well, buzz look this has. BEEN

1265
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,000
great i just love hearing these stories from the old

1266
01:10:03,079 --> 01:10:06,359
Days in, vegas ESPECIALLY and i just want to thank

1267
01:10:06,399 --> 01:10:08,479
you again for. Doing, this well.

1268
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,039
Speaker 2: Thank you it was, a treat, YOU know i really appreciate,

1269
01:10:11,039 --> 01:10:13,439
it because believe it, OR not i don't get to

1270
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,920
tell these stories too often for. Two reasons, number one

1271
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,760
a lot of people won't, understand them and you have

1272
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,399
to explain. Too much, number two they're not going to,

1273
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,439
believe this that all this stuff could happen to. ONE guy,

1274
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,960
I mean i was a clown Diver At. Caesar's palace

1275
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:35,279
what a? CLOWN diver i used to do clown dives

1276
01:10:35,399 --> 01:10:39,279
during The high roller parties in the summer at the

1277
01:10:39,319 --> 01:10:42,880
season's palace pool with what was, his name the guy

1278
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:47,239
original guy Who, Played Tarzan. Johnny, wisemulo, yeah wait what

1279
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,600
is a? Clown, diver okay so here's THE thing i

1280
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,640
hired me. To do another. Another story SO when i Got,

1281
01:10:55,279 --> 01:10:59,680
to VEGAS number i was a Lifeguard. In, arizona yeah

1282
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,199
and our off times we would go To the they

1283
01:11:02,199 --> 01:11:04,960
still had three, meter boards the, big hygeboard and we

1284
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,720
would practice what we call, hog dives and they were

1285
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,880
these really weird looking dives that nobody, could do and

1286
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:14,359
you would land like you had a severe, belly flop

1287
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,119
only we developed a way to land to make it

1288
01:11:17,159 --> 01:11:19,199
look like a, belly flop but you weren't. Getting hurt

1289
01:11:19,319 --> 01:11:21,560
there was a, talent. Too ANYWAY so i would go

1290
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:26,920
To the sahara pool sneak, in there zoot the guys,

1291
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,319
tip THEM and i would practice my. Hog diys, one

1292
01:11:30,399 --> 01:11:34,520
day the guy who owns, the concession who owned about

1293
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,960
five other concessions at, other, hotels says, YOU know i

1294
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,359
got something for you Here At. Caesar's palace you should

1295
01:11:41,359 --> 01:11:44,039
go over there in audition and do your dives for

1296
01:11:44,119 --> 01:11:47,079
The big iroller Party At. Caesar's palace it's an all.

1297
01:11:47,159 --> 01:11:50,680
Water shill so he set me UP and i went.

1298
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 1: Down here so here was.

1299
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:57,039
Speaker 2: My role they had a bunch of different things, going

1300
01:11:57,079 --> 01:12:00,960
on but they had these three precise Precision divers i'll

1301
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,199
never forget From the University, of oregon and they would

1302
01:12:04,199 --> 01:12:08,640
go on the three boards simultaneously doing the. SAME dives,

1303
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,479
i mean they were, very skillful. You, Know yeah and

1304
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,720
they would go through. Their routine so, after that they

1305
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:18,159
would put me on a chair right next to the

1306
01:12:18,159 --> 01:12:21,039
pool with A big panama hat one of those fake

1307
01:12:21,119 --> 01:12:24,560
cigars that's about a, foot long With A CAESARS palace,

1308
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:31,119
t SHIRT and i had these special chef pants with suspenders,

1309
01:12:31,159 --> 01:12:34,039
on THEM and i would ACT like i, was, drunk,

1310
01:12:34,159 --> 01:12:37,800
like oh anybody can? Do that YOU got i, watched

1311
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,119
THIS and i would walk Up and i'd fall through

1312
01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:43,680
the Ladder because i'd practice all, this before get back

1313
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,600
on get on There and i'd do it dive and

1314
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:51,359
just LOOK like i absolutely. Killed MYSELF then i dip

1315
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,720
backed out Right and i'd do. Another stumba one of

1316
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:56,960
my best TRICKS is i would jump from the high

1317
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:01,199
dive to the low dive them do a dumber a

1318
01:13:01,239 --> 01:13:04,439
double summersaw with a cannonball right next to, the edge

1319
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,880
so it got everybody on that. Edge wet but the,

1320
01:13:08,079 --> 01:13:11,880
last stunt this is, the greatest and it was one of,

1321
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:15,600
the girls one of the, naked girls gave. Me that

1322
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:21,960
she gave me a silver. Sequin, jockstrap like WHAT am

1323
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,359
i gonna do? With THAT so i did it. With

1324
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,000
IT so i put that ON and i had these

1325
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:31,720
chef pants with. The suspenders well halfway through, the show

1326
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:33,880
OF course i was rid of, the hat, the cigar.

1327
01:13:34,039 --> 01:13:37,560
This shirt SO now i just got the pants and the. Suspenders,

1328
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,920
on well the LAST time, I did i would jump

1329
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,640
on the high dive about seven, eight times and on

1330
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,840
the EIGHTH time i, REACHED down i would flip, the

1331
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,520
suspenders the pants would come, straight off stay on, the

1332
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,279
BOARD and i would do a swan dive in the

1333
01:13:52,319 --> 01:14:01,600
big spotlight in the silver. Sequin JOCKEY when i did

1334
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,960
that show for, two summers it was but THE point

1335
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,760
i was trying. To make and again, nothing IMPRESSION but

1336
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,279
i just did so many different. Things there it was

1337
01:14:10,359 --> 01:14:14,079
just like, you know people won't believe it IS where i.

1338
01:14:14,159 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: Was going, You know vegas was so much more fun.

1339
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 2: Back then it was, IT was, i mean it was,

1340
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,399
the GREAT but i got so many other show and

1341
01:14:23,399 --> 01:14:25,119
they will do. It again i'll see if they. CAN

1342
01:14:25,279 --> 01:14:28,800
recollect i hope they. Enjoyed this AND like, i said

1343
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:33,880
and just remember why it are and that's exactly the way.

1344
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,640
It happened you ever take a liar, to y'ell.

1345
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 1: That's the perfect place. To end, thanks, again buzz have a.

1346
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:57,039
Speaker 2: Great day