Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely you Can't
Be Serious Podcast. We are here for part two of
our user Illusion one album coverage. We're going to start
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Speaker 2: Once we started talking about this d we realize pretty
quickly that we need like an intro episode and then
a track by track on Usual Allusion one, and then
a track by track on Usual Allusion two.
Speaker 1: And there's just too much stuff to talk about, and
then a drink.
Speaker 3: Do the bar.
Speaker 2: There is an amazing amount of stories behind in these songs.
Speaker 1: Okay, before we get rolling, I just wanted to share something.
Last week we had Brad Moore come on on our
Shirly showcase and tell us what he thought about ten
versus never Mind. He communicates with us on Facebook all
of the time and he has a great story about
when black and usuer Illusion came out. He said that
when Black came out, he was not a big fan
because it was such a departure from Master Puppets and
Justice for All, but he was still a big Guns
n' Roses fan. He had been working in a movie
theater and he remembers, you know, when the end credits
came on for Terminator two, the you could be Mine
came on, he said, in this theater speakers, it sounded incredible,
he said. On the flip side, He's got mixed feelings
about these albums, he said, I had just seen them
in Dallas with skid Row openings, so I had already
heard November Rain, Locomotive, and Live and Let Die because
they had played them live before the albums were released.
My apprehension came from the fact that GNR mostly Axel
were lousy in that show. Two and a half hours
had elapsed before they hit the stage. Following skid Row,
people started fighting. When they finally came out, Axel sounded
awful and someone threw a bottle at him, and he
lectured the crowd and threatened to stop the show, and
they pulled it together some and were better as the
show went on. But it was obvious that they were
starting to unravel.
Speaker 4: That's interesting.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about all those songs and all
that unraveling here in just a few minutes.
Speaker 1: All right, So you're ready to jump in track by track.
Speaker 4: Let's go track by track. Use your illusion.
Speaker 1: One Before we get going, I just want to point
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Speaker 2: First song out of the gate is a song called
right next Door to Hell.
Speaker 1: Okay, you come in with this awesome bass and then
the scratch slide of the pick down the stringers of
the guitar, and I'm already like, yep, they're kicking, but
right out of the gate, super excited about it. Everything
else comes in drum seems solid. They are different. I
can tell the difference between Matt Sorum and Steven Adler,
but they're still solid. And then Axel starts singing, and
I'm like, what is like choppy?
Speaker 2: Can't really understand what he's saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't understand what he's saying. There's not a
melody to it. I love the music, but when Axel
comes in, I immediately like, Okay, hopefully this will get better.
Hopefully it gets better, And eventually I'm like, Okay, I'm
moving on to the next song.
Speaker 2: This is a great live song. I'm sure you know
you're pumping your fist. Hey, what's he saying? I don't care.
I'm just rocking out at the concert, having a great time. Sure,
this song's got an amazing story behind it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's the best part of this day. The story.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, the stories behind these songs are incredible.
So in October of nineteen ninety, Axel has a neighbor
named Gabriella Cantor who he called an over enthusiastic fan
and apparently she was bugging him to hang out or whatever.
So she calls the cops one night their next door neighbors,
and she says that he hit her with a wine bottle. Right,
He said she was a fanatic, she was a stalker,
and she tried to drunkenly attack him.
Speaker 1: His I think his wife or girlfriend.
Speaker 2: Aaron Everley, had just had a miscarriage. She was in
the back room asleep. This crazy girl comes banging on
his door, and when he told her to go home
and sleep it off, she tried to like wedge her
way in the door, and she threw her keys at yep, okay,
And so when he finally locked her out, he took
her keys and like just chucked him as far as goes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's on the twelfth floor. Yeah, even if
he has a really bad arm, it's gonna be hard
to find those teeth, that's right. So he had taken
the wine bottle from her, dumped it out, and then
he actually called the police. He called the sheriff's apartment.
They just didn't seem interested. Yeah, are you inside now, Okay,
I guess no threat then, right bye?
Speaker 2: I love that he just chucked her keys as far
as he could from twelfth story.
Speaker 1: So they weren't interested whenever he called the police. But
then she goes downstairs and has the front desk called
the police and she says, he hit me in the
head with the wine bottle, and that's enough to get
the police over there. And soon Axel is walking in
handcuffs to a patrol car and spends the next four
hours in jail until he bonds out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, when asked for a comment, what happened to
Axel give us a comment, He's like, yeah, I live
next door to a psycho.
Speaker 1: What's interesting is I watched the MTV news clip on
this one and the lead into this story was David
Bowie and Queen suing Vanilla Ice first step saw under pressure.
Speaker 2: Wow, that dates it a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: MTV had a contest called evict Axel where they gave
away this condo.
Speaker 1: Beautiful sunset strip property does everything a rock and roll
could ever want. Axl Rose has to move a bar.
Speaker 2: A barbecue, and a pool within throwing distance.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it hasn't been used, it just hasn't.
Speaker 1: Been slept away. From the noise of angry neighbors.
Speaker 6: This wall has only been smashed once some guy's head,
but it's been repaired.
Speaker 1: It's like you now faked. Taxel rose the possession of
his condo.
Speaker 5: He's furniture, he's stereo eighties four.
Speaker 1: You can have the pad.
Speaker 7: I'm keeping my arms.
Speaker 2: MTV ran this is a vict Axle contest, which is
super funny, and when you look at the pool, you're like, oh, Lee,
I don't know though, they'll never find those keys. A
Ohio college student won the condo from MTV. So this
song was written by Axel is He Stratlin, who we
talked about quit the band Yep, and a guy named
Timo Caltillo. Yeah, who is a finished guitarist from Finland.
He's from He didn't finish things. He finished this song.
Hey wait, I've got a crazy game.
Speaker 1: What a coincidence. Let's write a song. Yeah. He and
Izzy had put it together first, had kind of got
the bones of it going, and then Axel has this
experience and rounds out the rest of the song.
Speaker 2: All right, we're done with that one.
Speaker 1: Yep, all right.
Speaker 2: Next song on the album is called Dust and Bonus.
Speaker 8: Today he left.
Speaker 3: It out back on the.
Speaker 4: Sixty five.
Speaker 1: Shitay, okay, so you heard that back on the Highway
I sixty five. That is the highway that went through Lafayette, Indiana,
where Izzy and Axel grew up together. And according to Axel,
this is about some dude getting run over on no way.
That's how he lost his mind.
Speaker 2: This is a bluesy, western saloon feeling song.
Speaker 1: Totally different than what we got on Appetite, And that's
true for so many of these songs. You've got punk rock,
you've got classic rock, and you've got a whole lot
of blues. Like this is so much more blues based
than what.
Speaker 7: We got on Appetite.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because Axel kind of wanted to move
towards progressive rock, more Nine Inch Nails type of stuff. Yeah,
and Slash was very much no, We're sticking with the blues.
Is he Straggling sings lead vocals on this song.
Speaker 1: This song to me is Aerosmith all over the place.
I'm like, I can hear Steven Tyler and as I'm
getting through it, he literally does it. And if you'll
remember from our Aerosmith episode, Slash was the one who
ended up with Joe Perry's guitar that he had recorded
Walked This Way and all those other icons with So
I think that probably Aerosmith had to be a huge
influence on this whole album, but definitely this song. I
would love to hear Aerosmith cover Dustin Bones.
Speaker 2: Slash plays the voice box on this song. Yeah, we've
covered the Richie Samboras and the we talked about Peter Frampton.
Speaker 1: Peter frampt to Come Alive, Yeah, and he and we
Actually that story came up when we covered Appetite because
there's one song in there that has the.
Speaker 2: Thing goes on popbox. Yeah, that's right. Actual stopped a
show in Denver because there was a fan yelling and
flipping him off while he played Dustino.
Speaker 3: Song hold It, Hold It, hold It.
Speaker 2: That dude right there, get him out of here.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then later on different concert, but also stops
because there's a guy in the front row who's got
a T shirt on that has the name of the
radio station that played in Lafayette, and he stops and
starts talking with the guy. He's like, what's his name?
Still the DJ over?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that station saved my life, you know, it's like
that was my music that's cool, very cool. Okay. So
to go along with that blues bass that we are
now hearing, you are also hearing for the first time
piano on the Guns and Roses song Tristan Bones. This
is the first song that you've got Dizzy Reid playing.
That's a whole new thing.
Speaker 7: To the ears of gn R fans.
Speaker 2: Not a lot of piano on Appetite for Destruction, No any,
I don't think any. I don't think any I don't
think any all right. Moving on song number three, Living
Let Dye and.
Speaker 1: I kind of want to watch the James Bond like
trailer with this version instead of the Paul McCartney version.
Speaker 7: I love the Paul McCartney version.
Speaker 1: It's great. I mean it was. It was a kicking
butt song back then. Yeah, but yeah you you take
it up to Slash's guitar and the hard and distorted
sound that it gets it.
Speaker 7: I loved it. I loved the song when it came out.
Speaker 2: This was the second single released December third of ninety one,
got all the way to number thirty three on the
Hot one hundred and just in case there's somebody out
there who doesn't realize it, this was the theme song
for a Roger Moore James Bond movie called Live and
Let Die. Actually said he felt like this was a
sequel to Welcome to the Jungle.
Speaker 1: I could see that. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: He and Slash were on the phone one night and
they would talk back and forth about songs they wanted
to cover, and this was one that came up that
they both loved and that they felt like seems like
a hard rock song even though it's not hard rock, right,
and so they gave it that g n R edge.
The middle part when there's a breakdown, and it's the
partway says what does it matter to you? When you've
got a job to do, You've got to do it
well and you've got to give the other fella hell.
But he leans on it. You get that great axle
vocal right there that part. I think it's golden love it.
Matthew mccagan, who is Duff's brother, is one of the
guys who plays horn on this track.
Speaker 1: And this one you get background vocals by Shannon Hoon,
who was the lead singer of Lion Mellen. You say.
Speaker 2: It's brilliant lain.
Speaker 4: Watch in the bottle of gud.
Speaker 1: He joined them on multiple shows and he was in Yeah, yeah,
it was in a couple of videos.
Speaker 2: He's from Lafayette, Indiana. Oh there you go, the hometown boy.
Here's this funny story for this one. Okay, Sir Paul
McCartney that when his kids were at school, kids would
be like, yeah, it's a great song. You guys heard
that song with Guns and Roses. Wait a minute, that's
our dad and they're like, no, no, no, that's Guns
and Roses. Paul McCartney's kids were like, our dad wrote
that song.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 2: So the music video for Living Let Die right, that's
the last appearance as a member of Guns of Roses
Frizzy Straggling.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, by.
Speaker 2: The way, if you haven't seen that video in a
long time, I was a great shot at the very beginning.
It's a little bitty kid, red hair, got little toy guns,
pulds them out and it starts the whole video off.
That's baby Axel.
Speaker 7: Oh okay.
Speaker 2: This song was featured in the movie Gross point blank.
Remember that movie from the nineties. I do.
Speaker 1: Is that the nineties ten Minutes again? Oh yeah, that
was John. That was John Cusack's comeback movie.
Speaker 7: They did a fantastic job with the song.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, song number four, don't Cry.
Speaker 1: So to this song.
Speaker 4: Is something.
Speaker 1: Okay, So this song predates everything, Axel says. This is the.
Speaker 7: First song they wrote together.
Speaker 2: This is the first Guns n' Roses song that's nuts,
is't then crazy?
Speaker 1: Like eighty five?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: They played this at their first concert as Guns N' Roses.
Speaker 1: Oh man.
Speaker 2: This was written by Izzie and Axel. They played it
for the first time as Hollywood Rose in nineteen eighty five.
It predates Guns and Roses' Sorry, but it was also
on the set list for the first Guns and Roses
concert June sixth of nineteen eighty five. This was really
September seventeenth. This's your first Usual Illusion one single reached
number ten in the US. There's a really cool part
in the middle of this song. It's kind of subtle,
says give me a whisper, give me a sigh.
Speaker 5: I thought that was pretty cool. You know what this
song is about?
Speaker 1: No, I'm telling me. Okay.
Speaker 2: So, Izzy Straddling had been dating this girl. Her name
is Monique Lewis. She had been seeing Izzy and they
were kind of parting ways, and Axel kind of realized that, Hey,
I think I really liked this girl and I'm going
to go for it. And she was moving on to
other things and couldn't take the rock and roll lifestyle anymore.
And so she said, no, I can't see you either,
and so he started to cry and she said, don't cry, Bill,
this is pretty Axel. So it was a song about
a girl breaking Axle's heart. Her face is tattooed on
his bicep.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's where I had heard that name before. I
was just looking it up. I was just like, I'm
pretty sure I remember from our Appetite episode that girl.
Speaker 7: That's the name of the girl tattooed on.
Speaker 2: His right bicet. Yeah, you know why they didn't put
this on Appetite Instruction.
Speaker 1: No, here's the reason.
Speaker 2: Axel has said, we wanted to keep this as an
ace in the hole because we didn't know if Appetite
for Destruction would sell two copies or ten copies or
two hundred copies.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: We didn't want to use every single song that we
had in our arsenal, and we felt like this was
a good song maybe to hang on to album number two.
Speaker 1: Right, good call. Plenty of people bought this album because
of that song. Yeah, this is my favorite song on
the album. Okay, favorite song on the ALP.
Speaker 2: You know. One of the things I want to talk
about at the end is what's the best song on
the album? Yeah, what's maybe a song that should have
been trimmed yep, and then maybe an undiscovered gem for
people who are not familiar with his album.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Shannon Hoone sings background vocals on this song as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they actually credit him as vocals. Like the the
credit for vocals is Axel Shannon background vocals. Isy, So
he had enough of an impact that they said, we're
giving you credit for the vocals on this one.
Speaker 2: So I think this song is beautiful. It's sad. Let's
talk about the music video for just a second. Okay, right, So,
epic music video directed by Andy Morahan. You have Stephanie Seymour,
who is a Victoria's Secret model, yes, and Axel's girlfriend.
Speaker 1: The Victoria's Secret Model if you will.
Speaker 2: She was so hot majors, my gosh. So she's dating
Axel at this time. During the video, they actually wrestle
over a gun.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: His character in the video is going to shoot himself
and she's trying to prevent him from doing that, and
he finally just gives it to her. That event actually
happened with Aaron Everley in real life. Yeah, Axel was
going to blow his brains out. Aaron Everley kept him
from doing that.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you go and recreate an experience
like that for a music video, but hey, and just
so that we touch on it, apparently in this relationship
between the two, Axel was the more stable one.
Speaker 2: When Stephanie Seymour is the less stable one. You got
to know she's the back half. Crazy. Yeah, hot and crazy.
That's the deadliest combination one.
Speaker 1: Well, there's that whole continuum you know the graph.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where she's ye on that graph. Yeah, So Izy
Straddlin's not in the music video. You actually see a
sign in this music video where it says where's Izzy guys?
This the one where Axel wors the Nirvana hack?
Speaker 1: Oh right right? I think this is the video that
he wore the Nirvana hack and he ultimately later on
ends up burning it on stage. Yeah, the love hate
relationship that he had with that.
Speaker 2: I've got a great story about this music video. Okay,
So the director Andy Moorehn He tells a story about
how they finally wrapped the video. I'm done with this
crazy rock and roll band and his psycho girlfriend and
all these nutsoe people. So he's like, I'm out of here.
So he gets on the freight elevator to go down
finally by himself, finally done, and he sees a hand
reach in to stop the freight elevator from closing, and
it's none other than Axel Rose getting on the elevator
and Stephanie Seymour with him.
Speaker 5: Okay, on the way down the elevator.
Speaker 2: Keep in mind, this is just just down the elevator.
Andy Moore hen says, I'm not going to say they
were dry humping, but they were dry humping, and Axel
had no care in the world there was another human
being in the elevator with them. They were basically getting
it on in the elevator while this guy is like
cowering in the corner.
Speaker 1: He gus me, I just need to push floor three.
Speaker 2: So he said he was having a rock star moment
and that that was that. Doug Goldstein, who is the
manager of Guns N' Roses, when he met Stephanie Seymour,
he goes to knock on Axel's door. When the door opens,
there's Stephanie Seymour Victoria's Secret Model, completely nude, totally naked.
Guy's like, uh hi, and she's like you.
Speaker 1: Just come on in.
Speaker 2: He's like, no, thanks, gotta go rock and roll craziness.
Speaker 1: What would you say, dear listener? In that scenario, you
open the door and the Victoria's Secret Model is standing
there naked is chamber but naked.
Speaker 2: Come on in. Okay, I think I'll sit over here.
Speaker 5: I'll have a coke.
Speaker 2: One more thing I wanted to mention. In the music video,
Axel is being comforted by a therapist that's his real
life therapist.
Speaker 1: What yes, the fashion model like bazoom mega hot? Oh
my therapist, actual therapist.
Speaker 5: What do you think you chose her?
Speaker 1: She's a good doctor.
Speaker 2: Very gifted.
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's really epic. The part of the song I can't
stand though.
Speaker 1: You know I'm going this, Oh, I absolutely do.
Speaker 2: It's the last note of the song.
Speaker 1: It's the oh shut up for like just let it
in thirty seconds ah and you can hear Slash come
back in with ding dunk dunk, yeah, dunk dunk dunk,
Like could just stop.
Speaker 2: That's the part I don't like. Other than that, it's beautiful, yes,
perfect song other than that end. Okay, are we done
with Don't Cry?
Speaker 7: It's a shame, but I think so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Okay, We're done.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: The next song on the album's song called perfect Crime.
Speaker 1: Okay, so if this one again is very much like
right next Door to Hell, where you're kicking butt right
out of the gate, you know a band, and it's
a van good riffy. I like it, but again, the
vocals fall short for me. I'm with you, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: It's too choppy. It needs he needs to like spread
out in his vocals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's I don't know what is what do we
call this rapping? It's kind of led zeppeliny the way
he's doing it, but he's not doing it right this Fortunately,
this one in an album full of really long songs, right,
it's nice and short at two minutes and eighteen seconds
twenty yeah, yeah, and we just looked at it and
just figured it out. Right at the point that there's
a minute and nine seconds left, you can hear Axel
say T minus one oh nine and counting.
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: It is pretty cool and yes, I was ready for
it to be over at that point.
Speaker 2: This song was almost included on Appetite for Destruction. Okay,
once again, another song that predates Appetite for Destruction.
Speaker 1: Because that's the thing, Like, they didn't come to the
table with a whole bunch, Like they didn't get together
as a band and write a whole bunch of new
songs for this. This is almost all stuff that they
had done before, which is good because they didn't like
each other after the Appetite tour, right, they didn't care.
They were done, They didn't associate with each other. They
got together to record their music and do their live
shows and that was it slashed As there was one
time in all of this that they got together at
his house and it was the whole band together, and
he said, it felt like the old days where we're
actually writing music together. But up until that point, the
albums had been disjointed, the music had been just joined,
and it was just that one night that they finally
kind of glued it all together to make it what
we have today.
Speaker 2: Wow. Perfect Crime was first performed in nineteen eighty six
at Ackerman Hall at UCLA. Okay, it was like a
frat party.
Speaker 4: Baa baa.
Speaker 2: It's crazy to think that Guns n' Roses was playing
the University circuit at one time. Yeah, that was on
Halloween nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 1: Nice Halloween nineteen eighty six. I'm pretty sure I dressed
up as Martin McFly. Nice.
Speaker 2: Got anything more to say about perfect crime?
Speaker 1: Nope?
Speaker 2: Moving on to a song called You Ain't the First?
Speaker 1: One two three one two May two three, Whoam and
shot song?
Speaker 2: Just kid?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: One two three one two three. This is in three
four time, and this is an acoustic This is very
wise kind of sound.
Speaker 2: This song belongs on g n our Lives.
Speaker 1: It does, and it's three four time, which is unusual
for you know rock band. Well I'm not that unusual,
but it's unusual for Kins and Roses. Little waltz, little
bluesy kind of waltz.
Speaker 7: Going on.
Speaker 2: You Ain't the first? This is another f you song.
This is an few song to all the girlfriends that
we used to have. You ain't the first and this
girl ain't gonna be the last.
Speaker 1: Not surprisingly, this bluesy one was written by Izzy Stradlin
as well.
Speaker 2: In ninety three, it was rumored that Axel would dedicate
this song to Stephanie Seymour from the stage, Crazy Stephanie Seymour,
Crazy Hot Yeah, sung by Izzy Axel and shannonhon Again.
You got anything else on this? No?
Speaker 1: Well, the the guitar that's being played is a dough
Bro style of guitar, which has that unique.
Speaker 7: Sound, and it's you play it with the slide.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Slash you're playing it on his lap,
but generally when you see the big metal in the middle,
that's going to tell you it's a dough Bro and
it's got this kind of unique sound.
Speaker 2: I read that and I had no idea what that meant.
I like the part at the very end of the
song when they're wrapping it up and they're like, all right,
that's the take to the bar.
Speaker 1: You're done, You're done done with this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's move on to the Barlet's take moving on
to a song called bad Obsession.
Speaker 5: There's a harmonica.
Speaker 2: Hello, O harmon, Oh cow bell?
Speaker 1: I got a feva only prescription is more cow bell.
Speaker 2: This is very honkey talk.
Speaker 5: Its huge honckey talk.
Speaker 1: So the guy who is playing the harmonic, who also
plays the saxophone on this one, is a guy named
Mike Monroe. He was the vocalist for the glam punk
band Hanoi Rocks, which you've probably heard of.
Speaker 2: Yes, Hanoi Rocks had the drummer that was killed by
Vince Neil remember that. And yes, yes, the song was
written by Izzy and West our Kin. We talked about him.
He was a friend of the band, kind of a
neighbor friendly thing. If West ended up losing his life
to drugs, the song is about drugs, Schucker, there were
drugs around the band. No, yes, Wow. I heard Axel
talk about how this song actually predates but acts as
a sequel to mister Brownstone, right, a prequel if you will.
It's kind of a prequel.
Speaker 1: I mean, and this is such a standard kind of
honky tonk song. This is Once Bitten by Great White,
This is keep your Hands to Yourself by George Satellites,
this is honky Tonk Women by Rolling Stones, this is
Jealous Again by the Black Crows.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's all that same kind of rhythm that
is a whole mess of songs that we need to
podcast about.
Speaker 5: Right, this is a good song.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 5: It's fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not really guns n' roses.
Speaker 1: It's not hard rock. No, this I mean, and that's
what we talked about before. If you bought into Guns
n' Roses because they were a hard rock this album
is throwing you for a loop. There's a lot more
stuff going on.
Speaker 8: Next song is a song called back Off Bitch, another
great intro.
Speaker 2: This is pure guns and Roses to me, right. Yeah,
it's not a great song, but it has all the
elements of guns and Roses.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: This is another song written prior to Appetite for Destruction.
Axel says this song was written in nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 1: That's like back in Indiana.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that he's like eighteen, Yeah, something like that.
The dates and times don't really add up, right, because
he also said that this was written about his girlfriend,
Gina Piler, who moved with him to Los Angeles in
nineteen eighty two. She eventually kicked him out because shocker,
he has anger issues.
Speaker 1: I'm snake, will you taking me up? So?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is an old song. A guy named Chris Webber,
who was a member of Hollywood Rose, sued Axel because
he said that he wrote this song. Okay, but by
the time he got around to suing him, the statue
of limitations had ran out. Is he plays the guitar
solo on this one. Okay, this is one of the
ten songs played that first night when all five original
members of Guns N' Roses played on that June sixth,
nineteen eighty five day.
Speaker 7: This is no case song for me, but nothing that
I'm gonna keep listening to you over.
Speaker 2: And over and fancy. Okay, I do want to point
out something. A guy named Paul Hugy. Yeah, he gets
writing credit on this. Yes, this is the guy who
eventually took Slash's job.
Speaker 1: So he is a point of.
Speaker 2: Contention with the band members, right. Axel was friends with
him in Indiana. He brought him around in the mid
nineties and said, Hey, I've got this guy I want
to bring in. Duff and Slash were like nope, and
he's like, well, just just play with him and just
see what you think. So they're like, okay, fine, we'll
play with him. They play with him, and they're like nope.
So the song Sympathy for the Devil, the one that
came out for the interview with the Vampire soundtrack, Yeah,
Slash wrote that solo and when he had left, this
guy named Paul came right behind him, copied it, but
did it himself, and that was like the straw that
broke Camel's backslashes out, moving on, moving on, Moving on.
Next song is called double Talking Give.
Speaker 1: Okay, So this one starts off a lot like you
could be Mine like that, but then it comes in
with George Thurgut here right. So once again they're taking
a very standard type of sound, the jive sound, and
making their own song out of it, except that they've
got lyrics about finding a head in an arm inside
of a trash can and.
Speaker 4: God can.
Speaker 1: And then they've got lyrics and I'm wondering if this
is it's got to be a reference to Patients, the.
Speaker 2: Song and the Lies, Yeah, the album right, no.
Speaker 1: More.
Speaker 2: I think that's clearly a reference to Lies and the
song Patients.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you did what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I dig what you're saying.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: Here's the funny part about this song, Okay. Axel would
dedicate this song to whoever was pissiting him off at
the moment, right, So he has dedicated this to Izzy.
In ninety three, he dedicated this to Lars Ulrich from
the stage.
Speaker 1: Get this.
Speaker 2: He dedicated this in June of ninety two to Warren Batty.
Oh yeah, because he had like hit on Aaron Evianley,
he had hit on Stephanie Siemows. He also dedicated this
song to George Bush and Bill Clinton that said the time.
Speaker 1: For you a bit. Yeah. I guess he was a
Russ Parough fan.
Speaker 2: Whoever was bugging him at the time goes normal patience.
So you may mention that the head and the arm
found in the garbage can, right, So that was rumored
that those were body parts of a porn actor slash
director guy named Billy London.
Speaker 7: That's fascinating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So William Ernold Newton had died just the
October before. October nineteen ninety. He was murdered shortly after
completing what would be obviously his last film, The Rip
of Fashion. Newton's dismembered body was discovered by a transient
and a dumpster near Santa Monica Boulevard. His murder remains unsolved.
Speaker 2: This was right outside the studio. I don't know if
you know this or not, but Matt Soorm went on
Celebrity ghost Stories, went back to this studio and they
did that whole paranormal thing. Apparently Matt Sorum's pretty scooped
out by it. Yeah, double talking jive, no more patience,
no more lies. All right, let's move on to one
of the pillars of the album one.
Speaker 1: Of This is the pillar of the album. All right,
This is the This is the tenth pole of all
tent poles of all albums.
Speaker 7: November eight.
Speaker 2: This song is amazing. This song was released February eighteenth
of nineteen ninety two. It reached number three in the
US and is the longest song to ever be in
the top ten. At eight minutes and fifty seven seconds long,
It's the second longest song on the album. Estrange is longer, right,
but it's the longest song to ever reach the top
ten for the Billboard Hot one hundred.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to spoil it for you, guys. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry to do this. But Acxuel had been working
on the song since before he joined Guns N' Roses,
right right before he put it together. This was the
song that when he showed back up to do his
part on this album, they had thirty three songs in
the camp like the band had done thirty three songs
ready to go, and Axel could not have cared less
about any of them. All he wanted to do was
work on this song and work it out. And even
when they first started with it, he didn't have it
completely the way that he wanted it. And so there's
this moment where he and Matt Zoram are sitting in
the studio after recording. They're just sitting there and they're
listening to Elton John. So I'm about to ruin this
song for all of the non drummers out there, the drummers,
you probably realize what was going on, and it's probably
a distraction for you. Until I heard this story, it
was not a distraction at all. And now I cannot
hear the song without being focused on this. It's like
hearing the fluorescent lights on. So Matt, Sorum and Axel
are sitting in the studio after a day of recording.
They're eating takeout, they're drinking a glass of wine, and
they're listening to Elton John. And the Elton John song
Don't let the Sun Go Down on Me comes on,
and there's a couple of times that this little drum
fill comes in on the song and this is this
is what it sounds like. And let me so they're
commenting on that little drum fill and Axel says, this
is what we need for November Rain. That's the drum
fill I want. And Matt's like, okay, where and ax
was like, no, that's what I want In every single
spot that there's a drum fill it needs to be that.
It's so epic, it's so awesome. We didn't have that.
So literally that drum pills played twenty three time, twenty
three times.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, right, we're not look into ya, I can
see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I can't remember who the drummer was that
tried to call Matt Sorum out on it, and the
fact that he played the exact same drum pill twenty
three times in the same song, but his response was basically,
twenty two million albums sold, how about that? I was like, okay, sorry,
you're right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll shut up. It's the same drum fill twenty
three times, exact same yes, wow, Okay. The interesting thing
to me on November Rain is that rumor is that
Slash and Duff really didn't like this song very much.
They didn't want the symphony right. They weren't true believers
on this one, like Axel was.
Speaker 1: Right, and it wasn't even really a symphony. It was
a synthesizer, which probably was even worse for them. Right.
Speaker 2: The interesting thing to me also, Acxuel had been kicking
this around since nineteen eighty three. Tracy Gunns had worked
on it with him for La Guns. Right, it means
pre dating Guns and Roses. Let's talk about the music
video for a second. Okay, the music video has everyone
has the whole, every girlfriend, every crew member. Stephanie Seymour
and Axel get married, and then later he's at her funeral.
Slash's in charge of the ring at the wedding, and
then he goes outside. It's funny because obviously they're inside
a big church which was shot in Los Angeles. When
he goes out the back door. Then he's at this
tiny church in New Mexico.
Speaker 1: Little inconsistency there.
Speaker 2: In July of twenty eighteen, this is the first music
video to surpass one billion views on YouTube. The first
one when was that July of twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: Okay, because we mentioned that Inner Sandman was it understandment it.
Speaker 2: Was nothing else matters, Okay, just just hit like this month, yeah,
like August.
Speaker 1: This song is a part of a trilogy. You've Got
November Rain, You've Got Don't Cry, which you've already listened to,
and then Estranged, which is on the next album, right,
it's on part two.
Speaker 5: No, god, no, I mean this song's long.
Speaker 1: The song is almost nine minutes long. I can remember
like being at home in this video coming on and
thinking I really want to watch this, but I don't
think I have the time.
Speaker 5: Let me just at least get to slash his guitar
sol a little and then I.
Speaker 2: Can go yeah, yeah, awesome guitar song. Yeah, beautiful sweeping song.
This music video costs over one point five million dollars
to make, making it one of the most expensive music
videos of all time.
Speaker 7: Okay, so at the end of.
Speaker 1: The video, it says inspired by, or based on, or
something like that, the short Story Without You by Dell James. Interesting, Okay,
and so I think if you want to know why
she dies, since that's not answered in the video, you have.
Speaker 7: To read that story.
Speaker 2: I've never read it.
Speaker 1: No, we neither.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've got some great stuff I want to talk about.
Speaker 1: Okay. One of the.
Speaker 2: Things that inspired him time wise. I'm not sure how
this line's up, but when he saw what Tommy Lee
had done on Home Sweet Home. He knew he wanted
to incorporate piano into and make this grand song. Right,
so Home Sweet Home impacts this song a little bit.
I think that's a really cool story.
Speaker 4: Yes, this song to me is very Layla.
Speaker 1: You get the pianos in there, and then you've got
that break in the middle where you're like, oh, Raide's over, No,
it's not.
Speaker 9: And Laila is very.
Speaker 1: Much the same way, like after the guitar sologos into
kind of a different sounding song.
Speaker 2: It's like three songs in one. Yep, Harry Underwood plays
this live, which I think that'd be cool to Underwood
does she does Home Sweet Home too.
Speaker 1: I know, right, all right.
Speaker 6: I mentioned this before, but this song was number one
in Colombia for sixty weeks. That's not that's over a
year in the number one spot.
Speaker 2: And I told you that Axel was playing November Rain
in Colombia and it started to reign and he thought,
and this is super appropriate to have this wonderful, majestic song,
the super cool prince like purple rain Moment's pretty cool.
Speaker 3: That is cool.
Speaker 2: Andy Moorehan directed the music video. This is the same
guy that Axel was dry humping next to in the
freight elevator. Andy Moorehan directed Faith and Father Figure by
George Michael's Flashback to Our I knew, I ain't heard
that guys name it Flashback to Our George Michael episode
Versus in Excess. We mentioned that church in New Mexico,
that church that slash comes out of, that small church
in New Mexico. Yeah, it was in the movie Silverado.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the big church that they're in. The guy who
is acting as priest for the wedding, yes, actual priest.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think he was practicing anymore, but he had
been before.
Speaker 2: Love this song, love it, It's to me. It's one
of the big ten Toll songs of the nineties.
Speaker 7: It is this album Usual Allusion one is November one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I love, Don't Cry, Live and Let
Die is a cover. This is the album.
Speaker 2: Well we talked, you and I talked. We're gonna give
you our favorite song from the album, ye, our least
favorite song from the album and maybe an undiscovered gem
to me. It's November eight. It's this is the best
song on Usual Usion one. We've done with this one. Yeah,
sometimes you need some time on your own. Now we're
moving on. This song is called the Garden.
Speaker 4: No No, No, your brand.
Speaker 3: And buy Wow Ease you I the God.
Speaker 2: So to me, this is the undiscovered gem. This is
my undiscovered gem on this Alum, I think this is
a great song. Another song written prior to Appetite for Destruction.
This song has Alice Cooper rapping. What is not to
like about this song? The interesting thing to me is
when they were making this song, Axel was singing the
vocals and Slashed made the comment, you sound like Alice
Cooper right right, And so they had done a song
like a cover of an Alice Cooper song, and so
they thought, well, let's just see if Alice Cooper wants
to do it. So they call him up and say, hey, Alice,
we've got this song. We want you to work on
a crazy Man Topia give no one could show.
Speaker 1: You was glad?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, Alice Cooper knew.
Speaker 2: Axel's reputation as a perfectionist, uh huh, and Guns N'
Roses reputation is being very slow movers. And he said, okay, guys,
I will come and I will sing on this song
for you. Okay, But I've Got a Tea Time in
an hour, literally an album that took four years to make.
Alice Cooper did his part in one hour nice. I
don't know if you've seen the music video on this
one didn't get played on MTV very much because it's
all about strippers. This song was written by Axl Rose,
Del James and West dar King. You know West Raking,
their buddy who died of a drug overdose. The guitar
that he used to help write some of these songs, yeah,
was stolen by druggies when he overdosed and they were
cleaning him out for all of his work. So also
little known fact, Alice Cooper was given a platinum record
for User Lesion one due to this song, but that
platinum record was stolen when this House was broken into
this song, The Undiscovered Gem Garden.
Speaker 1: Moving on all right.
Speaker 2: The next song, not to be confused with the Garden,
is called Garden of Eden.
Speaker 5: It's skills.
Speaker 4: Massive guys, they.
Speaker 5: Sell to you.
Speaker 3: No no no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1: It's just spitting out a bunch of lyrics again on
actual I don't like the song. I don't either. I
don't either this.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people who think this is
a great song. It's fast, it's repetitious, it's annoying, punk,
it's annoying. It's yeah, it's not good. This was released
as a single September seventeenth, ninety two. It had a
music video that actually had a bouncing ball going over
the lyrics. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, that's a fast moving ball on this song.
Speaker 2: If you really want some good commentary on it, beave
us some. But heead covered this song.
Speaker 5: Audio shut Up.
Speaker 2: This was one of the only songs that they wrote
while they were in Chicago in eighty nine. Slash Duff
Steven go out to Chicago axles like, hey, let's meet
to Chicago and work on new stuff. They go out there,
he doesn't show up for two weeks. This is one
of the songs they completed during that time. This is
one of those songs that he didn't want to hear
when he came and started working on November ring right.
This video was shot the same day that they shot
the Yesterday's video. They were sitting around They're like, we
got all the cameras here, we're all here, might as
well might as well.
Speaker 1: They did this video on.
Speaker 2: One take and it was one of those like fish
eye camera lenses. When you look at it there, it's
all right up in their face. They're all jumping around
right into it. They did one take. They knocked out
two videos, Yesterday's and Garden of Eden same day done
with this one, very done. The next song is song
called Don't Damn Me, Yeah, no damn Me? Want to
thinking of me a Mia side and says in golden way,
I'm old.
Speaker 4: It's see I'm.
Speaker 1: On a band to a baby speaking of beat us.
Speaker 2: I hate it's like bugs bunny sound effect right there.
Speaker 1: This was actually okay, of these songs that are not,
you know, well known, this is one of the want to.
Speaker 7: Talk like a little bit.
Speaker 2: This was on the list of hidden gems for me.
I love the song. Slash has come out and said
that this is one of his favorites from Usuallysion one. Yeah,
it's got that great guitar, super fun, it's it's high energy,
it's it's good. They don't sing the song live because
the vocals are too hard and I want to dry.
It's I'm gonna get sometimes I get it up, which
is crazy because Garden of Eden seems like a way
harder song to sing. This song was written in response
to the critics over the song one in a million. Oh, okay, okay,
that's enough of don't damn Me? Good song? Not a single, right,
it's pretty good. I like it. There's a lot of
songs on these albums, yes, all right. Next song is
called bad Apples?
Speaker 4: All right, So what do you think about Bad Apples?
Speaker 1: Another very bluesy one. I actually kind of dig it,
strong blues influence. Again, do you like apples? I get
a number?
Speaker 2: How do you.
Speaker 1: Just kidding? So what did you think?
Speaker 4: I mean, it's kind of a skipper for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not as bad as some of the others
for me. I can listen to that one before. Some
of the others were Actuals just spitting out the lyrics.
This one at least has a melody to it, and
it's I will say this about the songs on this
album is that the music is good on every single song.
I mean, not like what Actual has done with the
lyrics and how he and melodies on some of them,
but the band is on point on every single song.
Speaker 2: More saloon rock, more hockey tonk, more piano yep. The
next song is called Dead Horse.
Speaker 1: Sick of it's life. Not that you can. I'm not
the only.
Speaker 2: One with these feeling that's him.
Speaker 1: Nobody ununderstands.
Speaker 2: Why why why? He? All right, So this song sounds
like Nirvana.
Speaker 4: Like the very beginning of this.
Speaker 1: It's very Nirvana unplugged, but then it changes your matter
and then it kicks into roses. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, okay, so just a couple of tidbits on Dead Horse.
I know that our buddy John Reid of the thirty
something movie podcast and the podcast Full of Cryptonite. Yes,
go subscribe, Go subscribe right now. Ass, he's a big
fan of this song dead Horse.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's all right, not my verite.
Speaker 2: Even though this was never released as a single, there
was a music video made on this one in ninety three. Okay,
this song was written by Axel. And then also at
the very end of the song you get the audio
of a fast forwarding sound, which I think is totally
appropriate on this one. Moving on, all right, and finally
we get to the song called Coma.
Speaker 4: All right, Dee, tell me how you feel about Komba?
Speaker 1: Okay, So, Koma is one of those ones that I
was not familiar with before we started doing this. I
didn't own Use Your Illusion one whenever it came out.
I think I actually did own Use Your Illusion to
but Cooma, it's kind of epic. It's one of those
throwback to the seventies, like full On. You've got a
long drawn out socket, kumy and a koma. I think
I wanna.
Speaker 2: Emma Kima? What kind of that I get in a coma?
Speaker 1: There's no chorus. I think it like, you know, repeats
a verse, maybe a little bit here and there in
a ten minute long song. That's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: It's darker, it's got some anger to it, throws out
a couple of cuss words, which was appealing when you're
fifteen or fourteen or whatever.
Speaker 1: Right, Like Slash had written the music for this thing,
this giant mammoth of a song that they have, and
actual felt a bit overwhelmed at having to write the
lyrics for this thing, but he threw it back to
an overdose like he had tried to take a bottle
of pills. That was the inspiration for this song. So
that's pretty tough in and of itself. But the amazing
thing that I did not know they did this song
in one take. Oh wait, played it together one take
and that was it. What I did not know that, Yes, Glad,
it got to blow your mind on that one, because
it blew my mind when I heard it. Ten minute
long song. One of the fans' favorites off of this album,
and they just captured Lightning in a bottle man.
Speaker 2: It's definitely one that you hear as a quiet masterpiece.
Speaker 4: People love this song. Yeah, it took some growing for
me to appreciate it, but it's different.
Speaker 1: There's a great interview that Kurt Loader had with Axel.
Kurt Loader's kind of like, well, you know you worried
about any of these songs. He's like, oh, well, yeah,
one of them. There's one that's like eleven minutes and
forty five seconds long and has my chorus.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 2: We talked about how this was written to and slashes
heroin days. Axel mentions his overdose. We've already talked about
how Steven Adler's had twenty eight overdoses so far.
Speaker 4: You like this one, then, huh? Masterpiece?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I don't know that I would.
Speaker 4: I mean, definitely a lot of the people think it's masterpiece.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would call it a masterpiece,
but it is it's definitely worthy. Like it is. You know,
what I thought of is this to me is like
a next chapter for Welcome to the Jungle. Like it's
got that same type of sound, same type of feel
going from you Gonna die to You're in a coma. Well,
I mean, hey, maybe so maybe that's maybe part two.
Speaker 4: Maybe, So that's that's interesting.
Speaker 2: It is Guns and Rose's longest song to date, at
over ten minutes long. Axel actually described this song on MTV.
He was talking about how this song was Slash his baby,
but when he wrote the lyrics, he talked about when
he overdosed. In his words, he said, I just grabbed
a bottle of pills in an argument and gulped them down.
I ended up in the hospital, but.
Speaker 1: I liked that.
Speaker 2: I wasn't in a fight anymore. My first real thoughts were,
you haven't toured enough, the record's going to be forgotten.
You've got work to do. Get out of this. So
I woke myself up and got out of that coma
and got back to work. Slash then says I wrote
coma in my heroin delirium. But that's a song that
I'm still proud of, all right, So that is it
for gun Zero's usual illusion one. We kind of alluded
to this, I want you to give me, give me
your best song, give me your song that you would cut,
and give me like a one off the Beaten track
that you like.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I don't know, it's not really off the
Beaten track, but Dustin Bones is one that I really
enjoyed that I hadn't been super familiar with before. Best
one is definitely Don't Cry for Me, and so then
that leaves me with the one that I get rid of,
which is probably the first song on the album I like.
I still like I said, I like the music, but
I think he just destroys it with his lyrics and delivery.
Speaker 2: Okay, So for me, my best song is November Rain
Well and closely by Dunk Cry. I think they're both
epically beautiful, awesome ballads off the Beaten track. For me,
I would definitely say the Garden I agree with you,
Dustin Bones, and then also Don't Damn Me, and then
the one that I would cut, honestly, it's going to
be Gardener Eden.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So we reached out to Russ at the Infectious Grooves
podcast and asked for his opinion on these two usual
illusion albums and Metallica's Black Album. Here's what he had
to say.
Speaker 9: Hey everybody, this is Russ from the Infectious Groove podcast
from over in Detroit, Michigan, and I was reached out
to by Jason Indeed ask for my quick thoughts overall
on the Black album and Use Your Illusion one and
Use Your Illusion two. I will tell you that I
think the Black Album got hated on by a lot
of Metallica fans just because the sound was so different.
But I never really bought into that when the album
came out, because, in my opinion, the band had just
finished making some of the best thrash metal records of
all time in a row. They were already on top
of the mountain, like there really was a anywhere else
to go in a different direction. So I was very
happy that they were trying to do something different at
the time. And not only were they trying to do
something different, but they did it very very well. Now,
Use Your Illusion definitely gets dogged a lot, and the
terms you always hear come up as people always say,
oh it's too long or oh it's way too bloated.
I couldn't disagree more instead of a term like bloated.
The term I always used to describe Us Your Illusion
wanted To is ambitious. I mean, sure, there's some bad
songs on Usual Illusion wanted To, like Shotgun Blues, Get
in the Ring. There's actually a hit that a lot
of people like that I don't. Garden of Eden was
a fairly big hit that a lot of people like,
and I'm not a huge fan of that. But then
there's incredibly underrated songs on Usual Illusion one to two,
like Locomotive, Bad Apples, coma fourteen years breakdown, And that's
in addition to some fantastic covers, their version of Live
and Let Die, and they finally committed to a studio
version of Knocking on Heaven's Door. That's great as well.
So with everything going on around the band and the
egos and and everything that was going on around Guns
and Roses at the time, to me, it's a miracle
that Us Your Illusion was even released, let alone to
have as many incredible songs as it does on it. So,
you know, again, while some people want to say, oh
that's you know, it's too bloated. For me, it's definitely
just ambitious, which is great. So for my ranking of
the three albums in number three, I would put the
Black Album number two. I would put User Illusion one,
and then of the three, the one that comes in
is the best for me is Use Your Illusion Too.
I don't have anything against the Black Album at all,
but I just think the User Illusion records are better
overall because of their ambitious nature and the diversity of
the tracks involved. For me, the biggest argument for User
Illusion one comes from November Rain and then the rest
of the record with tracks like Bad Apples, Don't Damn
Me Coma, which is amazing. Some of the best lyrics
Acxle ever wrote are on the complete outro to the
song Coma. But User Illusion two has a lot of
greatness spread throughout the album, rate from the first track
on with Locomotive into Strange enough honestly to carry the
victory for me of User Allusion to over Use Your
Illusion one. Then you have stuff like fourteen years and
Breakdown that just pad the lead in my opinion. And
then on top of that, honestly, the alternate lyrics of
Don't Cry that are found Unusual Allusion to are way
better than the lyrics to Don't Cry Unusual Illusion one.
So again, thanks for asking my opinion on the topic.
This is Russ and the Effectouscrew podcast, and that's how
I feel about the Black album and User Illusion one
and two.
Speaker 1: Not to take away from anybody else who's contributed, but
what a great analysis that was, right. But I mean, hey,
the guy's got his own music podcasts. Of course it's
going to be a great analysis. I loved it. I
loved what he had to say.
Speaker 2: I mean, he nails it right. I mean, he's got
several songs that he thinks were underrated, a couple of
bloated ones, a couple of ones that need to go.
Speaker 1: I don't like you and I.
Speaker 2: You know, Russ nailed to right on the head.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean ambitious is the right word to use.
I think he's so like he's hit the nail on
the head. It is ambitious. I mean, not only do
we have two full albums released at the same time,
but both of those albums have nearly an average of
fifteen songs each. Right, So that's impressive in and of itself.
So it'll be interesting to see where you and I
fall on Use Your Illusion one versus Use your Illusion
to versus Black. But he's definitely given us some food
for thought.
Speaker 2: Russ, thank you very much. That's Russ at the Infectious
Crews podcast. They have a great show over there. If
you like music, they're a great place to go.
Speaker 1: Check them out. Yeah, do that, Go subscribe to those guests.
All right, that does it for our user Illusion one episode.
Come back next week we will dive into use your
Illusion Part two.
Speaker 2: Only fourteen songs on that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whosh.
Speaker 7: This is an undertaking.
Speaker 2: That's what's tough.
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Speaker 3: Yeah,