WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.399 --> 00:00:06.360 It's night Side with Dan Ray on w Busy Radio. 2 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:10.599 Nicole. I'm just not ready for basketball or hockey. I 3 00:00:10.640 --> 00:00:13.839 feel like, let's get the baseball season over with, Let's 4 00:00:13.839 --> 00:00:17.239 get the football season goaling, and then we'll do basketball 5 00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:20.920 and hockey. I don't know. Things are just different seasons 6 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:24.239 for different sports. It can be confusing. Good evening, everybody, 7 00:00:24.280 --> 00:00:27.079 and welcome on in. My name is Dan Ray. Basketball. 8 00:00:27.079 --> 00:00:31.800 I'm like, who's playing at the garden tonight? All right, Well, yeah, 9 00:00:31.879 --> 00:00:34.079 it's a busy night out there. We got a busy 10 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:35.799 show lined up for you. My name is Dan Ray 11 00:00:35.799 --> 00:00:37.920 and the host of night Side, Rob Brooks back at 12 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:42.399 his familiar position back at Broadcast Central, all set to 13 00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:45.520 get your phone call started. After nine o'clock, we'll be 14 00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:49.439 talking with John Zogby, an extraordinary polster, along with Dave 15 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:53.840 Palo Logus and Spencer Kimball to three polsters that we 16 00:00:53.960 --> 00:00:57.280 really rely upon. And we'll have an interesting conversation with 17 00:00:57.359 --> 00:00:59.960 John Zogby on this the second night of the Dinner 18 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:03.000 Crotic National Convention in Chicago. So we'll get to all 19 00:01:03.039 --> 00:01:05.159 of that. We have lots to talk about what happened 20 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:09.239 last night, when it happened James Taylor didn't make the stage. 21 00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:12.799 Come on, how can you pass up James Taylor. Well, 22 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:15.400 we'll deal with that beginning at nine o'clock. We're going 23 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:20.040 to start off tonight talking about an actress, a young 24 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:24.239 actress who has just revealed she's the star of a 25 00:01:24.280 --> 00:01:30.480 program called boy Meece World. Her name is Danielle Fischel, 26 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:34.400 and she reveals a breast cancer diagnosis. And joining us 27 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:38.719 now from the Massachusetts General Hospital is doctor Matthew Strickland 28 00:01:39.120 --> 00:01:44.519 to talk about this and our young women, particularly, are 29 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:50.079 they being diagnosed with breast cancer earlier than they have 30 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:52.719 been in the past. And doctor Strickland, welcome to Night's Out. 31 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:53.439 How are you tonight? 32 00:01:54.560 --> 00:01:56.400 I'm doing great, Thanks so much for having me. 33 00:01:56.760 --> 00:02:03.159 You're welcome. I assume you're an oncologist or a cancer surgeon. 34 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:06.640 I just I'm not familiar with your background, and I 35 00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:08.439 want to make sure I don't assume anything. Tell us 36 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:12.240 a little bit about your particular area of practice of 37 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:13.439 practice at mass General. 38 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:17.360 Yes, of course, So I'm a medical oncologist, which means 39 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:23.840 that I give patients medications or therapies through an IV 40 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:26.800 to help fight their cancer. And I work closely with 41 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:32.039 surgeons or radiation oncologists. But my focus is giving medicine 42 00:02:32.039 --> 00:02:32.840 to treat cancer. 43 00:02:33.199 --> 00:02:36.599 So my understanding is that in this particular actress, who I, 44 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:41.199 frankly I'm unaware of. I'm told it's a very popular program, 45 00:02:41.240 --> 00:02:43.879 Boy Meets World, but I'm only five nights a week, 46 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:45.520 Monday through Friday, so there's a lot of things that 47 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:48.639 I don't see. I understand she's forty three years old. 48 00:02:48.680 --> 00:02:52.240 Is this a trend we're seeing that young women, younger 49 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:57.199 women are getting diagnosed earlier with this this horrific form 50 00:02:57.240 --> 00:02:57.759 of cancer. 51 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:02.599 Yes, actually that is the truth, and that is true 52 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:07.000 not only for breast cancer, but for other types of cancer. 53 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:11.400 We're seeing an alarming increase in what we call young 54 00:03:11.439 --> 00:03:15.240 adult onset, and broadly that's defined as ages between eighteen 55 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:19.000 forty nine years old. And so there's a lot of 56 00:03:19.039 --> 00:03:22.199 research effort or way to try to figure out what's 57 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:25.240 driving this. We're far from concrete answers, but we do 58 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:27.599 have some ideas about what could be going on. 59 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:31.759 Is this a worldwide phenomenon or is this a phenomenon 60 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:36.159 that maybe an American phenomenon and may be more related 61 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:37.879 to our diet and our environment. 62 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:42.680 That's a really great question, and there's data that supports 63 00:03:42.759 --> 00:03:46.879 both sides of that argument, namely that a Western diet 64 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:50.439 or something about the developed West could be driving this, 65 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:53.680 but it's not one hundred percent of the answer, because 66 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:58.080 we do see increases in incidents in other developing countries 67 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:03.560 that are divergent our Western culture and diet, et cetera. 68 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:06.879 The particular forms of cancer, and I assume when you 69 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:10.000 say young adult, we're talking about men and women equally. 70 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:14.039 Are there certain forms of cancers that seem to be 71 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:17.720 appearing earlier in people's life cycles recently? 72 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:22.600 Yes, definitely, so beyond breast cancer, which is certainly true 73 00:04:22.680 --> 00:04:26.279 for predominantly women, but breast cancer can happen in men 74 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:31.959 as well. The broadly as a group, gaser intestinal cancers 75 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:37.079 are one of the most concerning cancer types that fits 76 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:38.560 this rising incidence. 77 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:43.680 What can what can folks do about it? I mean, obviously, 78 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:46.879 I guess I think I read something recently that they 79 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:51.639 have reduced the recommended age for women to begin having 80 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:54.800 regular mimographies. Is that correct? 81 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:58.600 Yeah, that's exactly right. And while it's not true for 82 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:02.079 all cancer types, breast can answer generally is a cancer 83 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:07.319 type where screening efforts will lead to earlier diagnoses and 84 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:12.360 translate into better outcomes and basically saves lives. And so 85 00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:18.879 the ages for beginning thermography and other forms of screening 86 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:22.720 have been lowered in recent years. I think that this 87 00:05:22.920 --> 00:05:26.519 is where Danielle Fischer is really an excellent role model. 88 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:28.920 She when you look at the comments that she's made 89 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:33.519 in the media, she's speaking loudly and proudly about checking 90 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:38.079 in with your doctor, not ignoring routine screening and tests, 91 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:42.319 and basically stayin, plugged in so that if something does 92 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:45.360 come down the road, that you're equipped to deal with 93 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:48.319 it and you're in the best position possible to deal 94 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:50.399 with it. So I really applaud her and how she's 95 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:55.000 speaking about this diagnosis with a lot of courage. 96 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:58.720 The mind standing is that her diagnosis was called DCIS, 97 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:02.480 which stands so docto mom in situ little Latin there 98 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:07.079 as far I think figuring that one out, that is 99 00:06:07.639 --> 00:06:12.040 an early onset. She's in pretty good shape here as 100 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:15.360 I understand it, because of how quickly it's been diagnosed correct. 101 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:19.959 That's certainly the hope, and that you know, there's a 102 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:23.360 very high chance that that's the case. Cancer is really 103 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:27.319 a complex disease, and it exists on a continuum where 104 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:32.279 if we can detect cancer in its earliest forms sometimes 105 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:34.959 what we call a pre cancer, or a much better 106 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:38.199 position to eradicate that and really put it in the 107 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:40.879 rear view mirror for that patient. Now on the other 108 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:44.959 side of the continuum, unfortunately, we do discover cancer at 109 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:48.560 a very late stage where the disease has acquired the 110 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:53.000 capacity to behave very aggressively, and it's in those contexts 111 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:57.360 that it's much harder and often impossible to completely eradicate 112 00:06:57.399 --> 00:07:00.160 it for a patient. And so that's part of the 113 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:02.959 complexity is when a patient comes to the clinic, we 114 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:07.560 have to define exactly where their diagnosis is on that continuum, 115 00:07:07.639 --> 00:07:10.199 and then we have to respond in kind with a 116 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:11.439 personalized treatment plan. 117 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:14.120 Yeah. I have a friend of mine in South Dakota 118 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:16.879 who about six months ago is diagnosed with a stage 119 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:22.480 four sophageyield cancer. He had been a smoker, and he 120 00:07:22.279 --> 00:07:25.600 was They treated it aggressively and again he was at 121 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:30.040 a hospital in South Dakota and he was pronounced yesterday 122 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:34.759 cancer free, which to me is miraculous what doctors are 123 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:37.000 able to do, whether it's here at the Mass General 124 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:39.480 which you know, obviously is one of the great hospitals 125 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:41.720 of the world, or the hospital that he was at 126 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:44.199 in South Dakota. So I think I think a lot 127 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:46.360 of it is also, and I'd be interested in your 128 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:48.519 reaction to this, particularly in terms of what you do 129 00:07:48.839 --> 00:07:52.480 that a lot of it is the attitude of the patient, 130 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:54.920 and if the patient says I'm going to beat this, 131 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:59.439 that gives the patient an advantage. I believe in that. 132 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:02.319 I'm sure there are no studies that support that, but 133 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:08.160 from your observations, I'm sure that cancer diagnosis has to 134 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:13.560 be incredibly difficult for anyone to hear. How important is 135 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:17.120 the attitude for a patient once they have been diagnosed, 136 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:19.279 whether it's early or late stage cancer. 137 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:23.480 I completely agree with that sentiment. I do think that 138 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:27.000 the attitude on the patient is paramount. I think that 139 00:08:27.040 --> 00:08:29.480 the family and the loved ones that surround the patient 140 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:34.279 is a critically important component. And then as that patient 141 00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:38.320 and family meets their provider and usually what becomes quite 142 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:43.000 a large multidisciplinary team, I think the therapeutic alliance that 143 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:48.440 is formed between patient, family and those providers is critical 144 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:51.399 and does lead to better outcomes. I think one of 145 00:08:51.440 --> 00:08:54.639 the biggest messages I would want folks to hear is 146 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:57.399 that no matter what kind of call you get, whether 147 00:08:57.480 --> 00:09:00.399 it's an early stage or even a late stage cancer, 148 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:05.799 there's an army of providers, doctors, nurses, etc. That are 149 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:07.639 ready to help you. And it really can be as 150 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:11.360 simple as picking up the phone for the closest comprehensive 151 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:16.679 cancer care center and then getting plugged in and from 152 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:19.639 that point on it should be fairly quick before a 153 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:23.399 patient gets a personalized treatment plan that's right for them. 154 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:26.200 Doctor Strickland, thank you so much for the work that 155 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:29.000 you and your colleagues do at the Mass General and 156 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:33.360 also the other doctors anywhere within the sound of a voice. 157 00:09:34.159 --> 00:09:37.720 It's amazing what you do and what you've dedicated your 158 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:41.080 life to doing. So just on behalf of everyone, thank 159 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:44.320 you for what you happen to do and the work 160 00:09:44.360 --> 00:09:47.360 that you've chosen as a as light as your life work. 161 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:52.200 So again, I appreciate your answers tonight and your clarity, 162 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:55.639 and I so much appreciate your dedication. Thank you so much, 163 00:09:55.679 --> 00:09:56.399 my friend. 164 00:09:57.080 --> 00:09:58.879 Thank you so much for having me. I really enjoyed 165 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:00.480 speaking with you, Doctor. 166 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:03.440 Matthew Strickland of Massive General. Host When we get back 167 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:06.039 We're going to talk about another problem, one that's probably 168 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:08.600 not as serious, and that is the New England Patriots 169 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:11.360 their upcoming season. I talked with Ben Volan the Boston 170 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:15.159 Globe who wrote a very interesting article about the Patriots 171 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:18.720 executive vice president of play a personnel, Elliott Wolf. Will 172 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:21.159 dive deep into this one, Ben. Right after this break 173 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:24.399 on Nightside, my name's Dan Ray. You're listening WBZ ten thirty. 174 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:26.399 If you can't get us in the radio, you can 175 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:30.159 always download the iHeartRadio app and pick us up anytime 176 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:32.480 during the day. We're twenty four to seven. Been around 177 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:35.240 doing this, well, not me, but the station has been 178 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:39.000 around since nineteen twenty one. So we are now in 179 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:42.440 what our one hundred and fourth year of broadcasting, first 180 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:45.000 radio station to go on the year in New England. 181 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:48.879 Now back to Dan Ray line from the Window World 182 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:52.159 night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. 183 00:10:53.240 --> 00:10:56.120 Well, the football season is right around the corner. So 184 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:58.039 when I picked up my Globe today and read Ben 185 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:01.600 Volin's piece on Boston Globe writer, it's hard to be 186 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:04.960 confident in the Patriots when Elliot Wolf doesn't project it. 187 00:11:06.399 --> 00:11:09.919 That is that that is not a harbinger of good 188 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:11.639 things to come. Ben, Welcome to night Side. 189 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:15.080 How are you doing great? Thanks for having me today, 190 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:19.039 And you know what I think, even without me writing 191 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:21.080 that column, I don't know if Patriots fans are going 192 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:23.240 to be feeling too good about the team this season. 193 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:25.799 It's it's going to be. 194 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:28.360 A rebuilding year and maybe rebuilding a couple of years 195 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:29.200 down in Foxborough. 196 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:32.000 As the Red Sox would say, it's a bridge. It's 197 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:35.799 a bridge to better times. So Elliott Wolf and people 198 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:38.879 probably don't know Elliott Wolf too much. He's not the 199 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:42.440 general manager. He's an executive VP of player personnel. But 200 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:46.360 he comes from pretty good lines. His dad was Ron Wolf, 201 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:49.320 who was a packer general manager for many years. So 202 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:53.600 you said you pictured him and I read this the 203 00:11:53.639 --> 00:11:56.559 other day. I read this today rather at a news 204 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:01.879 conference feeling a little shaky. Now. I've covered a few 205 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:05.240 news conferences in my time, politicians and a few sports figures. 206 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:09.559 It can be a little intimidating. Does he exist question? 207 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:12.600 It's in one on one conversations. Privately, was that was 208 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:15.600 it like the glare of the lights and the intensity 209 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:17.039 of the question is to throw him off? Or what 210 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:17.519 do you think? 211 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:18.840 I mean? 212 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:21.720 I think Elliott Wolf and you're right. He does come 213 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:26.080 from impressive an impressive family. His dad, Ron Wolfe, is 214 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:28.679 in the NFL Hall of Fame. He was the general 215 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:31.039 manager of the Green Bay Packers for a long time 216 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:32.879 and helped them horse racing. 217 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:35.399 We call that, we'd call that good bloodlines, right. 218 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:40.320 Yes, yes, exactly. So Elliott's been around NFL front offices 219 00:12:40.360 --> 00:12:43.120 since he was ten years old. He's now in his forties. 220 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:46.159 He's a sharp guy. I've talked, I've talked to him before. 221 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:49.279 He's everyone and everyone he talked to around the league 222 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:52.440 says he's, you know, close to brilliant. They talk about 223 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:56.799 how he has a like a photographic memory about football prospects. 224 00:12:56.879 --> 00:13:01.679 Just can you know, recount high weight speed, you know, 225 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:04.759 and you know a fact about the guy like you 226 00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:06.679 know any name you pull up from over the years. 227 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:09.279 So he's a very smart guy. And I think he 228 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:13.120 was just nervous yesterday because or when he spoke on 229 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:17.240 Tuesday on Sunday, excuse me, he was nervous because he 230 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:19.240 knows that the team isn't in a good spot right now. 231 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:23.639 This this is a team where yes, they potentially found 232 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:26.320 a franchise quarterback in Drake May with the number three pick. 233 00:13:27.039 --> 00:13:31.679 But they you know, it was a very untraditional offseason. 234 00:13:32.159 --> 00:13:34.159 They didn't really go out and find a left tackle, 235 00:13:34.279 --> 00:13:37.000 they didn't do a ton at receiver. They did draft, 236 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:39.720 you know, a couple of guys, but they still have 237 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:42.399 a lot of holes on the roster. And then on 238 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:44.519 top of it, you trade Matthew jun On last week 239 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:48.080 for a draft pick. So now people start wondering are 240 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:50.519 the Patriots tanking for this year. I didn't even care 241 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:52.799 about their one boss record for twenty twenty four, So 242 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:57.200 I think, you know, Elliott, who you know, hasn't spoken 243 00:13:57.399 --> 00:13:59.399 in press conferences too much. I think this was only 244 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:03.279 his third or fourth since becoming Patriots general manager or 245 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:07.759 the equivalent of it, and I just think he was afraid. 246 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:09.799 He was just a little nervous about taking the questions 247 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:12.840 because he knows that the team isn't in a great 248 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:15.200 spot right now as it enters the twenty twenty four season. 249 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:17.639 Yeah, you said, I think I assume it was. Stacy 250 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:21.240 James wrapped the news conference, which was an obligatory news 251 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:24.799 conference by NFL rules. Although he's not the general manager, 252 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:27.759 he's kind of in that position. The news conference only 253 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:29.559 lasted about eight minutes, right. 254 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:34.200 He was under eight minutes and you know, longer. 255 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:36.399 Than Kamala Harris's news conferences. We got to give it, 256 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:38.000 got to give him that credit. 257 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:41.600 At least well, But Kamala Harris isn't required by you know, 258 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:44.960 by the rules to do a press conference either Elliott 259 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:47.759 Wolf is. And that's that's been kind of disappointing. 260 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:48.080 You know. 261 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:50.320 Elliott Wolf, like I said, is a sharp guy, and 262 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:52.440 he's a friendly guy, and I think he do well 263 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:55.799 if he spoke more regularly to the media instead of 264 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:59.039 doing just the minimum required. And I don't know if 265 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:01.840 that's his decision or if that's the organization's decision, but 266 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:05.200 a little disappointing that it was supposed to be a 267 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:09.720 media friendlier Patriots and really between Girodmeo and how they 268 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:12.039 do media and Elliot Wolf, they're really just doing the 269 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:15.960 minimum requirements. So, yeah, it was under eight minutes. They 270 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:17.960 gave him the quick hook. There are a lot more 271 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:21.120 questions we could have asked him or you know, followed 272 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:26.600 up on some topics. You know, I don't expect a 273 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:29.200 general manager, a head coach to be you know, completely 274 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:33.879 transparent and truthful and revealing about everything that's going on. 275 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:34.440 With his team. 276 00:15:34.559 --> 00:15:39.600 But I just thought that Elliott Wolf instead of just 277 00:15:40.360 --> 00:15:43.960 you know, kind of denying everything and acting like all 278 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:46.799 as well, maybe if you were a little more realistic, 279 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:49.440 it would have actually made him sound more confident in 280 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:50.639 the direction of the team. 281 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:54.120 So I'm concerned about the left tackle thing. I believe that, 282 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:57.279 other than a quarterback, that's the most important position on 283 00:15:57.279 --> 00:16:00.519 the football team. Maybe I'm right, maybe i'm but that's 284 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:04.639 the blindside position for a quarterback. Why did they not 285 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:08.360 find someone? Is there's nothing out there that they can 286 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:10.960 step up with a better left tackle and wasn't nothing 287 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:12.320 available in the draft? 288 00:16:13.320 --> 00:16:17.120 Well, I will say that free agency wasn't great this year. 289 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:21.080 That really in the NFL now, the players that get 290 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:23.720 to free agency by and large are guys that their 291 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:26.240 teams don't want anymore. So a lot of times you 292 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:29.360 get you know, B and C level players who are 293 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:33.159 looking for a level prices. So I don't necessarily blame 294 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:36.000 them for not you know, signing some big left tackle 295 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:37.759 and free agency, because I don't know if that person 296 00:16:37.879 --> 00:16:41.720 necessarily was available, But certainly in the draft they could 297 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:44.679 have done more to look for a left tackle and 298 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:47.840 just the plan overall, they signed a guy in free agency, 299 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:50.639 and they drafted a kid in the third round, neither 300 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:53.000 of whom have ever played left tackle. That's the issue, 301 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:56.559 is that their career right tackle, and the Patriots plan 302 00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:59.360 apparently is just to take these guys and flip them 303 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:01.240 over to the left side. I didn't assume that everything's 304 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:04.359 going to be fine. You know, we'll see. I've talked 305 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:06.480 to some coaches who think that the switch from right 306 00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:08.720 to left is you know, it can be overrated, that 307 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:11.119 it's not that hard, that a good athlete and a 308 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:14.319 good football player can do it. We've certainly seen guys, 309 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:17.039 you know, even around here. I mean Trent Brown who's 310 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:19.079 now gone. He played the left and the right side 311 00:17:19.079 --> 00:17:23.680 pretty well. But it's just, you know, you're you're drafting 312 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:26.759 a quarterback at number three, and you're not surrounding him 313 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:29.920 with the best pieces here. He doesn't have a level receivers, 314 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:32.519 and he has a couple of fish out of water 315 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:34.160 trying to figure out left tackle. 316 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:35.880 So that's to me, that's. 317 00:17:35.720 --> 00:17:37.720 Probably why Drake May is going to start the season 318 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:41.559 on the bench behind Jacoba Grissette. The Patriots needed to 319 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:44.720 use the first few games, several games, maybe even the 320 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:46.920 whole season to figure out exactly what they have on 321 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:51.079 the roster, and you know, maybe by mid season the 322 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:53.720 offensive line has settled down and one of these guys 323 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:55.799 has stepped up and playing left tackle pretty well, then 324 00:17:55.799 --> 00:17:58.400 I think you can feel more confidence in putting Drake 325 00:17:58.440 --> 00:18:00.039 May in the game. But right now, with where the 326 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:03.319 teams at, I'd be hesitant to throw Drake May to 327 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:05.720 the Wolves right now because he's just they don't have 328 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:07.079 a whole lot of pieces around him. 329 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:10.319 I saw that mac Jones had a good, a good 330 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:14.000 game with the Jaguars this past weekend, No second thoughts 331 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:14.680 on that, right. 332 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:21.640 You know, the preseason is important for something he's like 333 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:24.359 with a young quarterback with Drake May, you want to 334 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:26.480 see him get in and out of the huddle, run 335 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:29.440 the offense, not have any pre snat penalties or delay 336 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:32.519 of game penalties for a veteran like mac Jones coming in, 337 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:35.559 and you know, tearing up the other team's second and 338 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:39.119 third string defense doesn't mean a whole lot. So you know, 339 00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:41.400 I think, if anything, mac Jones probably just locked up 340 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:45.839 the backup spot behind Trevor Lawrence. But you know, mac 341 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:48.319 Jones was a good kid and his career started out well, 342 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:52.759 But he's just too physically limited. He's not big, fast, 343 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:55.880 doesn't have a big arm. You know, Drake May has 344 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:58.480 all those things. Uh, he just looks like a bigger, 345 00:18:58.559 --> 00:19:00.880 more athletic version of Mac Jone. So even though Mac 346 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:03.640 is putting up some numbers in these preseason games, I 347 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:06.200 don't think the Patriots should have any second thoughts about Well. 348 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:08.079 I was only I was only joking. I will always 349 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:11.720 remember that last interception that he threw in in Germany 350 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:15.920 in that game, the worst interception I think I've ever 351 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:19.759 seen an NFL quarterback throw. Yeah, I think you know 352 00:19:19.799 --> 00:19:22.440 the play I'm talking about. Ben enjoyed the conversation. Love 353 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:24.799 to have you back. As the season goes on, Can 354 00:19:24.839 --> 00:19:26.759 they win eight games this year in your opinion? Or no? 355 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:28.039 Boy? 356 00:19:28.119 --> 00:19:33.079 Eight games feels like kind of a best case scenario. Injuries, 357 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:36.039 you know, fall in their favor, and the offensive line 358 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:41.079 figures itself out and the defense jels together, then yeah, 359 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:43.759 maybe they could be eight and nine, But I think 360 00:19:43.799 --> 00:19:46.079 we're looking more at a four or five win team, 361 00:19:46.359 --> 00:19:49.240 and if injuries go the wrong way, this could be 362 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:50.359 even uglier than that. 363 00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:55.000 Just remember remember this, Leon Gray and John Hannah walking 364 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:55.400 through that. 365 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:59.599 Door exactly exactly, so it could be a long season, 366 00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:02.799 but you know, hopefully you guys have your Fantasy football 367 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:05.680 and Red Zone channel and there'll be plenty of entertaining 368 00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:06.440 football to watch. 369 00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:09.160 Sounds great, Ben, I enjoy the writing. The Globe is 370 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:13.839 my favorite sports page. It's my go to section every morning, 371 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:17.359 well before the front page, well before Metro, well before business. 372 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:19.759 I'm in the sports page in large part because of 373 00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:22.359 you and Shaughnessy and DuPont and the whole gang there. 374 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:24.680 So thanks so much for what you do. Appreciate it, Ben. 375 00:20:25.079 --> 00:20:27.039 Well, thank you very much. Appreciate you having me. 376 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:29.400 All right, we'll have you back. We come back when 377 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:32.160 we talk about a favorite here in New England, and 378 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:36.960 that is King Richard's Fair. The New England Renaissance Festival 379 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:41.119 opens this season August thirty. First. I remember going to 380 00:20:41.160 --> 00:20:44.160 that with my kids when they were young. We had 381 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:46.559 a ball. It's a great take. We'll be talked with 382 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:50.720 Ryan Roy of King Richard's Fair right after the news 383 00:20:50.720 --> 00:20:51.720 at the bottom of the hour. 384 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:57.160 You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's 385 00:20:57.240 --> 00:20:57.839 news radio. 386 00:20:58.799 --> 00:21:03.759 King Richards is a staple of entertainment here in New England. 387 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:07.200 Always late in the summer and into September with us 388 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:11.160 is Ryan Roy. He's the production director office manager of 389 00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:16.240 King Richards Fair in Carver, Massachusetts, the New England Renaissance Festival. 390 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:20.359 How long you guys been doing this? Ryan? Hey? 391 00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:24.920 There, we are going into our forty third season this year. 392 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:29.880 We're so excited to be bringing back this wonderful, live 393 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:33.160 outdoor entertainment here in Carver, mass You. 394 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:36.640 Know, I've been to King Richard's Fair, particularly when my 395 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:40.200 kids were young, and so we're talking probably thirty years ago. 396 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:45.960 Does King Richards Fear move to other parts of the country. 397 00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:48.160 I never got a straight answer to that. Or as 398 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:52.279 it just here as it's always been in Carver, Massachusetts 399 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:55.759 and opens and closes and puts everything away for the 400 00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:57.000 rest of the year. 401 00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:01.839