Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray on w Busy Radio.
Speaker 2: Nicole. I'm just not ready for basketball or hockey. I
Speaker 2: feel like, let's get the baseball season over with, Let's
Speaker 2: get the football season goaling, and then we'll do basketball
Speaker 2: and hockey. I don't know. Things are just different seasons
Speaker 2: for different sports. It can be confusing. Good evening, everybody,
Speaker 2: and welcome on in. My name is Dan Ray. Basketball.
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Speaker 2: of that. We have lots to talk about what happened
Speaker 2: last night, when it happened James Taylor didn't make the stage.
Speaker 2: Come on, how can you pass up James Taylor. Well,
Speaker 2: we'll deal with that beginning at nine o'clock. We're going
Speaker 2: to start off tonight talking about an actress, a young
Speaker 2: actress who has just revealed she's the star of a
Speaker 2: program called boy Meece World. Her name is Danielle Fischel,
Speaker 2: and she reveals a breast cancer diagnosis. And joining us
Speaker 2: now from the Massachusetts General Hospital is doctor Matthew Strickland
Speaker 2: to talk about this and our young women, particularly, are
Speaker 2: they being diagnosed with breast cancer earlier than they have
Speaker 2: been in the past. And doctor Strickland, welcome to Night's Out.
Speaker 2: How are you tonight?
Speaker 3: I'm doing great, Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. I assume you're an oncologist or a cancer surgeon.
Speaker 2: I just I'm not familiar with your background, and I
Speaker 2: want to make sure I don't assume anything. Tell us
Speaker 2: a little bit about your particular area of practice of
Speaker 2: practice at mass General.
Speaker 3: Yes, of course, So I'm a medical oncologist, which means
Speaker 3: that I give patients medications or therapies through an IV
Speaker 3: to help fight their cancer. And I work closely with
Speaker 3: surgeons or radiation oncologists. But my focus is giving medicine
Speaker 3: to treat cancer.
Speaker 2: So my understanding is that in this particular actress, who I,
Speaker 2: frankly I'm unaware of. I'm told it's a very popular program,
Speaker 2: Boy Meets World, but I'm only five nights a week,
Speaker 2: Monday through Friday, so there's a lot of things that
Speaker 2: I don't see. I understand she's forty three years old.
Speaker 2: Is this a trend we're seeing that young women, younger
Speaker 2: women are getting diagnosed earlier with this this horrific form
Speaker 2: of cancer.
Speaker 3: Yes, actually that is the truth, and that is true
Speaker 3: not only for breast cancer, but for other types of cancer.
Speaker 3: We're seeing an alarming increase in what we call young
Speaker 3: adult onset, and broadly that's defined as ages between eighteen
Speaker 3: forty nine years old. And so there's a lot of
Speaker 3: research effort or way to try to figure out what's
Speaker 3: driving this. We're far from concrete answers, but we do
Speaker 3: have some ideas about what could be going on.
Speaker 2: Is this a worldwide phenomenon or is this a phenomenon
Speaker 2: that maybe an American phenomenon and may be more related
Speaker 2: to our diet and our environment.
Speaker 3: That's a really great question, and there's data that supports
Speaker 3: both sides of that argument, namely that a Western diet
Speaker 3: or something about the developed West could be driving this,
Speaker 3: but it's not one hundred percent of the answer, because
Speaker 3: we do see increases in incidents in other developing countries
Speaker 3: that are divergent our Western culture and diet, et cetera.
Speaker 2: The particular forms of cancer, and I assume when you
Speaker 2: say young adult, we're talking about men and women equally.
Speaker 2: Are there certain forms of cancers that seem to be
Speaker 2: appearing earlier in people's life cycles recently?
Speaker 3: Yes, definitely, so beyond breast cancer, which is certainly true
Speaker 3: for predominantly women, but breast cancer can happen in men
Speaker 3: as well. The broadly as a group, gaser intestinal cancers
Speaker 3: are one of the most concerning cancer types that fits
Speaker 3: this rising incidence.
Speaker 2: What can what can folks do about it? I mean, obviously,
Speaker 2: I guess I think I read something recently that they
Speaker 2: have reduced the recommended age for women to begin having
Speaker 2: regular mimographies. Is that correct?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right. And while it's not true for
Speaker 3: all cancer types, breast can answer generally is a cancer
Speaker 3: type where screening efforts will lead to earlier diagnoses and
Speaker 3: translate into better outcomes and basically saves lives. And so
Speaker 3: the ages for beginning thermography and other forms of screening
Speaker 3: have been lowered in recent years. I think that this
Speaker 3: is where Danielle Fischer is really an excellent role model.
Speaker 3: She when you look at the comments that she's made
Speaker 3: in the media, she's speaking loudly and proudly about checking
Speaker 3: in with your doctor, not ignoring routine screening and tests,
Speaker 3: and basically stayin, plugged in so that if something does
Speaker 3: come down the road, that you're equipped to deal with
Speaker 3: it and you're in the best position possible to deal
Speaker 3: with it. So I really applaud her and how she's
Speaker 3: speaking about this diagnosis with a lot of courage.
Speaker 2: The mind standing is that her diagnosis was called DCIS,
Speaker 2: which stands so docto mom in situ little Latin there
Speaker 2: as far I think figuring that one out, that is
Speaker 2: an early onset. She's in pretty good shape here as
Speaker 2: I understand it, because of how quickly it's been diagnosed correct.
Speaker 3: That's certainly the hope, and that you know, there's a
Speaker 3: very high chance that that's the case. Cancer is really
Speaker 3: a complex disease, and it exists on a continuum where
Speaker 3: if we can detect cancer in its earliest forms sometimes
Speaker 3: what we call a pre cancer, or a much better
Speaker 3: position to eradicate that and really put it in the
Speaker 3: rear view mirror for that patient. Now on the other
Speaker 3: side of the continuum, unfortunately, we do discover cancer at
Speaker 3: a very late stage where the disease has acquired the
Speaker 3: capacity to behave very aggressively, and it's in those contexts
Speaker 3: that it's much harder and often impossible to completely eradicate
Speaker 3: it for a patient. And so that's part of the
Speaker 3: complexity is when a patient comes to the clinic, we
Speaker 3: have to define exactly where their diagnosis is on that continuum,
Speaker 3: and then we have to respond in kind with a
Speaker 3: personalized treatment plan.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I have a friend of mine in South Dakota
Speaker 2: who about six months ago is diagnosed with a stage
Speaker 2: four sophageyield cancer. He had been a smoker, and he
Speaker 2: was They treated it aggressively and again he was at
Speaker 2: a hospital in South Dakota and he was pronounced yesterday
Speaker 2: cancer free, which to me is miraculous what doctors are
Speaker 2: able to do, whether it's here at the Mass General
Speaker 2: which you know, obviously is one of the great hospitals
Speaker 2: of the world, or the hospital that he was at
Speaker 2: in South Dakota. So I think I think a lot
Speaker 2: of it is also, and I'd be interested in your
Speaker 2: reaction to this, particularly in terms of what you do
Speaker 2: that a lot of it is the attitude of the patient,
Speaker 2: and if the patient says I'm going to beat this,
Speaker 2: that gives the patient an advantage. I believe in that.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are no studies that support that, but
Speaker 2: from your observations, I'm sure that cancer diagnosis has to
Speaker 2: be incredibly difficult for anyone to hear. How important is
Speaker 2: the attitude for a patient once they have been diagnosed,
Speaker 2: whether it's early or late stage cancer.
Speaker 3: I completely agree with that sentiment. I do think that
Speaker 3: the attitude on the patient is paramount. I think that
Speaker 3: the family and the loved ones that surround the patient
Speaker 3: is a critically important component. And then as that patient
Speaker 3: and family meets their provider and usually what becomes quite
Speaker 3: a large multidisciplinary team, I think the therapeutic alliance that
Speaker 3: is formed between patient, family and those providers is critical
Speaker 3: and does lead to better outcomes. I think one of
Speaker 3: the biggest messages I would want folks to hear is
Speaker 3: that no matter what kind of call you get, whether
Speaker 3: it's an early stage or even a late stage cancer,
Speaker 3: there's an army of providers, doctors, nurses, etc. That are
Speaker 3: ready to help you. And it really can be as
Speaker 3: simple as picking up the phone for the closest comprehensive
Speaker 3: cancer care center and then getting plugged in and from
Speaker 3: that point on it should be fairly quick before a
Speaker 3: patient gets a personalized treatment plan that's right for them.
Speaker 2: Doctor Strickland, thank you so much for the work that
Speaker 2: you and your colleagues do at the Mass General and
Speaker 2: also the other doctors anywhere within the sound of a voice.
Speaker 2: It's amazing what you do and what you've dedicated your
Speaker 2: life to doing. So just on behalf of everyone, thank
Speaker 2: you for what you happen to do and the work
Speaker 2: that you've chosen as a as light as your life work.
Speaker 2: So again, I appreciate your answers tonight and your clarity,
Speaker 2: and I so much appreciate your dedication. Thank you so much,
Speaker 2: my friend.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. I really enjoyed
Speaker 3: speaking with you, Doctor.
Speaker 2: Matthew Strickland of Massive General. Host When we get back
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about another problem, one that's probably
Speaker 2: not as serious, and that is the New England Patriots
Speaker 2: their upcoming season. I talked with Ben Volan the Boston
Speaker 2: Globe who wrote a very interesting article about the Patriots
Speaker 2: executive vice president of play a personnel, Elliott Wolf. Will
Speaker 2: dive deep into this one, Ben. Right after this break
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Speaker 2: Well, the football season is right around the corner. So
Speaker 2: when I picked up my Globe today and read Ben
Speaker 2: Volin's piece on Boston Globe writer, it's hard to be
Speaker 2: confident in the Patriots when Elliot Wolf doesn't project it.
Speaker 2: That is that that is not a harbinger of good
Speaker 2: things to come. Ben, Welcome to night Side.
Speaker 4: How are you doing great? Thanks for having me today,
Speaker 4: And you know what I think, even without me writing
Speaker 4: that column, I don't know if Patriots fans are going
Speaker 4: to be feeling too good about the team this season.
Speaker 5: It's it's going to be.
Speaker 4: A rebuilding year and maybe rebuilding a couple of years
Speaker 4: down in Foxborough.
Speaker 2: As the Red Sox would say, it's a bridge. It's
Speaker 2: a bridge to better times. So Elliott Wolf and people
Speaker 2: probably don't know Elliott Wolf too much. He's not the
Speaker 2: general manager. He's an executive VP of player personnel. But
Speaker 2: he comes from pretty good lines. His dad was Ron Wolf,
Speaker 2: who was a packer general manager for many years. So
Speaker 2: you said you pictured him and I read this the
Speaker 2: other day. I read this today rather at a news
Speaker 2: conference feeling a little shaky. Now. I've covered a few
Speaker 2: news conferences in my time, politicians and a few sports figures.
Speaker 2: It can be a little intimidating. Does he exist question?
Speaker 2: It's in one on one conversations. Privately, was that was
Speaker 2: it like the glare of the lights and the intensity
Speaker 2: of the question is to throw him off? Or what
Speaker 2: do you think?
Speaker 5: I mean?
Speaker 4: I think Elliott Wolf and you're right. He does come
Speaker 4: from impressive an impressive family. His dad, Ron Wolfe, is
Speaker 4: in the NFL Hall of Fame. He was the general
Speaker 4: manager of the Green Bay Packers for a long time
Speaker 4: and helped them horse racing.
Speaker 2: We call that, we'd call that good bloodlines, right.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, exactly. So Elliott's been around NFL front offices
Speaker 4: since he was ten years old. He's now in his forties.
Speaker 4: He's a sharp guy. I've talked, I've talked to him before.
Speaker 4: He's everyone and everyone he talked to around the league
Speaker 4: says he's, you know, close to brilliant. They talk about
Speaker 4: how he has a like a photographic memory about football prospects.
Speaker 4: Just can you know, recount high weight speed, you know,
Speaker 4: and you know a fact about the guy like you
Speaker 4: know any name you pull up from over the years.
Speaker 4: So he's a very smart guy. And I think he
Speaker 4: was just nervous yesterday because or when he spoke on
Speaker 4: Tuesday on Sunday, excuse me, he was nervous because he
Speaker 4: knows that the team isn't in a good spot right now.
Speaker 4: This this is a team where yes, they potentially found
Speaker 4: a franchise quarterback in Drake May with the number three pick.
Speaker 4: But they you know, it was a very untraditional offseason.
Speaker 4: They didn't really go out and find a left tackle,
Speaker 4: they didn't do a ton at receiver. They did draft,
Speaker 4: you know, a couple of guys, but they still have
Speaker 4: a lot of holes on the roster. And then on
Speaker 4: top of it, you trade Matthew jun On last week
Speaker 4: for a draft pick. So now people start wondering are
Speaker 4: the Patriots tanking for this year. I didn't even care
Speaker 4: about their one boss record for twenty twenty four, So
Speaker 4: I think, you know, Elliott, who you know, hasn't spoken
Speaker 4: in press conferences too much. I think this was only
Speaker 4: his third or fourth since becoming Patriots general manager or
Speaker 4: the equivalent of it, and I just think he was afraid.
Speaker 4: He was just a little nervous about taking the questions
Speaker 4: because he knows that the team isn't in a great
Speaker 4: spot right now as it enters the twenty twenty four season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you said, I think I assume it was. Stacy
Speaker 2: James wrapped the news conference, which was an obligatory news
Speaker 2: conference by NFL rules. Although he's not the general manager,
Speaker 2: he's kind of in that position. The news conference only
Speaker 2: lasted about eight minutes, right.
Speaker 4: He was under eight minutes and you know, longer.
Speaker 2: Than Kamala Harris's news conferences. We got to give it,
Speaker 2: got to give him that credit.
Speaker 4: At least well, But Kamala Harris isn't required by you know,
Speaker 4: by the rules to do a press conference either Elliott
Speaker 4: Wolf is. And that's that's been kind of disappointing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: Elliott Wolf, like I said, is a sharp guy, and
Speaker 4: he's a friendly guy, and I think he do well
Speaker 4: if he spoke more regularly to the media instead of
Speaker 4: doing just the minimum required. And I don't know if
Speaker 4: that's his decision or if that's the organization's decision, but
Speaker 4: a little disappointing that it was supposed to be a
Speaker 4: media friendlier Patriots and really between Girodmeo and how they
Speaker 4: do media and Elliot Wolf, they're really just doing the
Speaker 4: minimum requirements. So, yeah, it was under eight minutes. They
Speaker 4: gave him the quick hook. There are a lot more
Speaker 4: questions we could have asked him or you know, followed
Speaker 4: up on some topics. You know, I don't expect a
Speaker 4: general manager, a head coach to be you know, completely
Speaker 4: transparent and truthful and revealing about everything that's going on.
Speaker 3: With his team.
Speaker 4: But I just thought that Elliott Wolf instead of just
Speaker 4: you know, kind of denying everything and acting like all
Speaker 4: as well, maybe if you were a little more realistic,
Speaker 4: it would have actually made him sound more confident in
Speaker 4: the direction of the team.
Speaker 2: So I'm concerned about the left tackle thing. I believe that,
Speaker 2: other than a quarterback, that's the most important position on
Speaker 2: the football team. Maybe I'm right, maybe i'm but that's
Speaker 2: the blindside position for a quarterback. Why did they not
Speaker 2: find someone? Is there's nothing out there that they can
Speaker 2: step up with a better left tackle and wasn't nothing
Speaker 2: available in the draft?
Speaker 4: Well, I will say that free agency wasn't great this year.
Speaker 4: That really in the NFL now, the players that get
Speaker 4: to free agency by and large are guys that their
Speaker 4: teams don't want anymore. So a lot of times you
Speaker 4: get you know, B and C level players who are
Speaker 4: looking for a level prices. So I don't necessarily blame
Speaker 4: them for not you know, signing some big left tackle
Speaker 4: and free agency, because I don't know if that person
Speaker 4: necessarily was available, But certainly in the draft they could
Speaker 4: have done more to look for a left tackle and
Speaker 4: just the plan overall, they signed a guy in free agency,
Speaker 4: and they drafted a kid in the third round, neither
Speaker 4: of whom have ever played left tackle. That's the issue,
Speaker 4: is that their career right tackle, and the Patriots plan
Speaker 4: apparently is just to take these guys and flip them
Speaker 4: over to the left side. I didn't assume that everything's
Speaker 4: going to be fine. You know, we'll see. I've talked
Speaker 4: to some coaches who think that the switch from right
Speaker 4: to left is you know, it can be overrated, that
Speaker 4: it's not that hard, that a good athlete and a
Speaker 4: good football player can do it. We've certainly seen guys,
Speaker 4: you know, even around here. I mean Trent Brown who's
Speaker 4: now gone. He played the left and the right side
Speaker 4: pretty well. But it's just, you know, you're you're drafting
Speaker 4: a quarterback at number three, and you're not surrounding him
Speaker 4: with the best pieces here. He doesn't have a level receivers,
Speaker 4: and he has a couple of fish out of water
Speaker 4: trying to figure out left tackle.
Speaker 5: So that's to me, that's.
Speaker 4: Probably why Drake May is going to start the season
Speaker 4: on the bench behind Jacoba Grissette. The Patriots needed to
Speaker 4: use the first few games, several games, maybe even the
Speaker 4: whole season to figure out exactly what they have on
Speaker 4: the roster, and you know, maybe by mid season the
Speaker 4: offensive line has settled down and one of these guys
Speaker 4: has stepped up and playing left tackle pretty well, then
Speaker 4: I think you can feel more confidence in putting Drake
Speaker 4: May in the game. But right now, with where the
Speaker 4: teams at, I'd be hesitant to throw Drake May to
Speaker 4: the Wolves right now because he's just they don't have
Speaker 4: a whole lot of pieces around him.
Speaker 2: I saw that mac Jones had a good, a good
Speaker 2: game with the Jaguars this past weekend, No second thoughts
Speaker 2: on that, right.
Speaker 4: You know, the preseason is important for something he's like
Speaker 4: with a young quarterback with Drake May, you want to
Speaker 4: see him get in and out of the huddle, run
Speaker 4: the offense, not have any pre snat penalties or delay
Speaker 4: of game penalties for a veteran like mac Jones coming in,
Speaker 4: and you know, tearing up the other team's second and
Speaker 4: third string defense doesn't mean a whole lot. So you know,
Speaker 4: I think, if anything, mac Jones probably just locked up
Speaker 4: the backup spot behind Trevor Lawrence. But you know, mac
Speaker 4: Jones was a good kid and his career started out well,
Speaker 4: But he's just too physically limited. He's not big, fast,
Speaker 4: doesn't have a big arm. You know, Drake May has
Speaker 4: all those things. Uh, he just looks like a bigger,
Speaker 4: more athletic version of Mac Jone. So even though Mac
Speaker 4: is putting up some numbers in these preseason games, I
Speaker 4: don't think the Patriots should have any second thoughts about Well.
Speaker 2: I was only I was only joking. I will always
Speaker 2: remember that last interception that he threw in in Germany
Speaker 2: in that game, the worst interception I think I've ever
Speaker 2: seen an NFL quarterback throw. Yeah, I think you know
Speaker 2: the play I'm talking about. Ben enjoyed the conversation. Love
Speaker 2: to have you back. As the season goes on, Can
Speaker 2: they win eight games this year in your opinion? Or no?
Speaker 6: Boy?
Speaker 4: Eight games feels like kind of a best case scenario. Injuries,
Speaker 4: you know, fall in their favor, and the offensive line
Speaker 4: figures itself out and the defense jels together, then yeah,
Speaker 4: maybe they could be eight and nine, But I think
Speaker 4: we're looking more at a four or five win team,
Speaker 4: and if injuries go the wrong way, this could be
Speaker 4: even uglier than that.
Speaker 2: Just remember remember this, Leon Gray and John Hannah walking
Speaker 2: through that.
Speaker 6: Door exactly exactly, so it could be a long season,
Speaker 6: but you know, hopefully you guys have your Fantasy football
Speaker 6: and Red Zone channel and there'll be plenty of entertaining
Speaker 6: football to watch.
Speaker 2: Sounds great, Ben, I enjoy the writing. The Globe is
Speaker 2: my favorite sports page. It's my go to section every morning,
Speaker 2: well before the front page, well before Metro, well before business.
Speaker 2: I'm in the sports page in large part because of
Speaker 2: you and Shaughnessy and DuPont and the whole gang there.
Speaker 2: So thanks so much for what you do. Appreciate it, Ben.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you very much. Appreciate you having me.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll have you back. We come back when
Speaker 2: we talk about a favorite here in New England, and
Speaker 2: that is King Richard's Fair. The New England Renaissance Festival
Speaker 2: opens this season August thirty. First. I remember going to
Speaker 2: that with my kids when they were young. We had
Speaker 2: a ball. It's a great take. We'll be talked with
Speaker 2: Ryan Roy of King Richard's Fair right after the news
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 2: King Richards is a staple of entertainment here in New England.
Speaker 2: Always late in the summer and into September with us
Speaker 2: is Ryan Roy. He's the production director office manager of
Speaker 2: King Richards Fair in Carver, Massachusetts, the New England Renaissance Festival.
Speaker 2: How long you guys been doing this? Ryan? Hey?
Speaker 7: There, we are going into our forty third season this year.
Speaker 7: We're so excited to be bringing back this wonderful, live
Speaker 7: outdoor entertainment here in Carver, mass You.
Speaker 2: Know, I've been to King Richard's Fair, particularly when my
Speaker 2: kids were young, and so we're talking probably thirty years ago.
Speaker 2: Does King Richards Fear move to other parts of the country.
Speaker 2: I never got a straight answer to that. Or as
Speaker 2: it just here as it's always been in Carver, Massachusetts
Speaker 2: and opens and closes and puts everything away for the
Speaker 2: rest of the year.
Speaker 7: You know, for us, is it is just in Massachusetts.
Speaker 7: For many of the performers and our artisans, they travel
Speaker 7: the country, they in fact travel the globe throughout the year,
Speaker 7: and then during the late late summer and early fall
Speaker 7: they get to come to Massachusetts and hang out with
Speaker 7: us and really put on a great show for everybody
Speaker 7: who comes to see them.
Speaker 2: I'm familiar with it, but why don't you describe some
Speaker 2: of the highlights. I love the jousting and the and
Speaker 2: the costumes and the people who just remain in character.
Speaker 2: It's it's a great experience, particularly for families in my opinion,
Speaker 2: but it's also a great experience for anyone. Tell people
Speaker 2: set the stage a little bit for folks.
Speaker 7: You know we are we are set in an eighty
Speaker 7: acre wooded site, so when you come to the fair itself,
Speaker 7: you're literally walking into a portal to the past. We
Speaker 7: love to create a fantasy world. This reality that is
Speaker 7: ours is amazing. It's great for families, like you said,
Speaker 7: it's great for the friends that just want to go
Speaker 7: out and have a good time, laugh at some shows,
Speaker 7: maybe have some incredible food and drink. One of the
Speaker 7: best things about King Richard's Fair is our two pound
Speaker 7: spit roasted turkey leg. When you think of the Renaissance,
Speaker 7: you think of a king holding a turkey leg, and
Speaker 7: it's available to you here at King Richard's Fair. Like
Speaker 7: when you come here you can feel like royalty. You
Speaker 7: get to walk around, sit at one of our eight
Speaker 7: stages throughout the fair and catch an incredible, incredible show,
Speaker 7: and when you're ready you can go and shop the
Speaker 7: artists and marketplace, and like I said, we have artisans
Speaker 7: from around the globe that come and showcase their wares here.
Speaker 7: It ranges anywhere from clothe eaters to pottery to taro
Speaker 7: and psychic readings, face painting of course for the children,
Speaker 7: and just really unique hanmade wares.
Speaker 2: Tell us about if you can the history take us
Speaker 2: back forty three years. Who came up with the idea
Speaker 2: to do that here? I'm sure, I'm sure that you
Speaker 2: were not there at the inception of King Richard's Fear,
Speaker 2: But I'm just curious what is the legend of how
Speaker 2: it started here in New England.
Speaker 7: It is a wonderful story. Actually, it goes back to
Speaker 7: our current producer, who is Bonnie Harris Shapiro. Both she
Speaker 7: and her husband, the late Richard Shapiro, who this fair
Speaker 7: is named after King Richard's Fair. He was the original
Speaker 7: King Richard.
Speaker 3: They came up with.
Speaker 7: An idea to build this Renaissance festival and to create
Speaker 7: joy for so many that get to come through the gates.
Speaker 7: It is still run by Bonnie and her daughter Amy,
Speaker 7: so it is a family run business. They've put their
Speaker 7: heart into it and it carries on to this day
Speaker 7: in his memory and I think one of the biggest
Speaker 7: things is his memory is joy and happiness for the
Speaker 7: people that come. That was always important to him. It's
Speaker 7: important to them, and it definitely shines through through the acts,
Speaker 7: through the artisans, through the food. Like when you think
Speaker 7: of good things, sometimes food is that thing, and it
Speaker 7: we have warm turkey stew that will warm your belly
Speaker 7: and warm your heart. And that was one of those
Speaker 7: things that they just really wanted.
Speaker 3: To give the people.
Speaker 7: And they're able to still do that, which is wonderful.
Speaker 2: So how late I know you start on August thirty first?
Speaker 2: Is that a Saturday? Correct? If I'm not mistaken or
Speaker 2: am I wrong on that?
Speaker 3: Correct?
Speaker 7: The fair runs weekends. We open on Saturday, August thirty first,
Speaker 7: and we run through Sunday, October twentieth, twenty twenty four
Speaker 7: this season. And we are also open on the Monday
Speaker 7: holidays of September two and I'llctober fourteenth.
Speaker 2: So this seven good weekends in there. And you know, again,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you even disclosed this, but I
Speaker 2: mean it's.
Speaker 4: I will actually correct you, it's it's eighth good week Well.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. That's right. You know, my math
Speaker 2: is a little off recently. Oh no, so over the
Speaker 2: course of of of a year, when they say your season,
Speaker 2: how many New England you know, I don't know if
Speaker 2: this is confidential information, it has to be thousands upon
Speaker 2: thousands of people that come there because it's pretty close
Speaker 2: off of Rout three and carverr I mean, the directions
Speaker 2: get pretty easy to get there.
Speaker 4: Correct.
Speaker 7: It's it's about forty five minutes to an hour south
Speaker 7: of Boston. It's about an hour east of Providence. So
Speaker 7: we get a great crowd coming from both of those areas.
Speaker 7: I would say over over the span of forty three years,
Speaker 7: hundreds of thousands, in fact, millions have probably come through
Speaker 7: the gate. And one of the other wonderful things is
Speaker 7: people come back a year after year. They love to
Speaker 7: join in on a fun King Richard and his friends
Speaker 7: produce a musical each year, so there's always some high
Speaker 7: jinks that happened. It's a wonderful musical comedy up on
Speaker 7: the King stage and it follows, it follows King Richard
Speaker 7: and his friends throughout the years.
Speaker 2: Well that's great, So how can folks get tickets? What's
Speaker 2: the easiest way is it? Is it walking up or
Speaker 2: do you got to get them in advance.
Speaker 7: The best thing to do is to check out our
Speaker 7: website that is King Richard's Fair dot net and fairest
Speaker 7: spelt with an E, so that's King Richard's Fair with
Speaker 7: any dot net. On that page, you can click on
Speaker 7: a button that says purchased eye tickets and then you
Speaker 7: just go from there. We do have date specific tickets,
Speaker 7: so for those folks that want to plan ahead, it's
Speaker 7: very easy to do.
Speaker 2: And by the way, King Richard's Fear all one were
Speaker 2: I F A, I R E dot net no apostrophe,
Speaker 2: I assume on King Richards.
Speaker 3: You are correct, all right.
Speaker 2: Appreciate it very much, Ryan, You're a great presenter of
Speaker 2: what an exciting and great event this is. I really
Speaker 2: loved it with my kids, and maybe I'll get my
Speaker 2: gri grandson back there at some point in the next
Speaker 2: few years. He's only two, but I think once he
Speaker 2: gets to about four or five, we're going to be there.
Speaker 7: Thank you so much, well, thank you so much for
Speaker 7: having me, and we look forward to seeing so many
Speaker 7: of you this season. Once again, we're open from August
Speaker 7: thirty first all the way to October twentieth, and we're
Speaker 7: looking forward to a wonderful year with all of you.
Speaker 2: Sounds great, Ryan, once again, thank you so much, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: When we get back, we're going to talk about conquering
Speaker 2: self sabotage by overcoming five hazardous attitudes. We're going to
Speaker 2: talk about an author, speaker coach who is also formerly
Speaker 2: a commercial airline pilot. If you have some bad attitudes,
Speaker 2: we're going to identify them and help you get rid
Speaker 2: of them. Right after this break on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, so, our final guest during this eight o'clock hour,
Speaker 2: this Nightside News Update hour is Ricky Brown. He's an author, speaker,
Speaker 2: coach of former commercial I assume airline pilot, and he's
Speaker 2: going to talk about five hazardous attitudes ways to win
Speaker 2: the war within. Welcome Ricky Brown to Nightside. How are you?
Speaker 5: I'm great, sir, Thanks for having.
Speaker 2: Me so one of these five hazardous attitudes? Do we
Speaker 2: all have the potential for these five hazardous attitudes? Or
Speaker 2: do we have one or more of them? Give us
Speaker 2: an explanation of that.
Speaker 5: Well, the good news here, I've only met one person
Speaker 5: in my entire life that had all five, Well, that
Speaker 5: should put everyone at rish. Okay. Five hazardous attitudes were
Speaker 5: originally developed by the FAA and they are still required
Speaker 5: today for every single pilot before they can get licensed.
Speaker 5: They found that almost eighty percent of plane crashes have
Speaker 5: involved at least one or more of these five hazards attitudes.
Speaker 5: So that's why they are important, because if an attitude
Speaker 5: can crash an airplane, then they can crash a business,
Speaker 5: a marriage, or relationship, or a career. And so I
Speaker 5: just wanted to make a tool there was previously only
Speaker 5: available to pilots available to everyone so that we can
Speaker 5: learn how to overcome them.
Speaker 2: Okay, so what are the hazardous attitudes?
Speaker 5: So macho is one. It's an over inflated sense of sufferability,
Speaker 5: and it causes people to take unnecessary risks.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's a good one. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, you don't want, you know, you never want to
Speaker 5: hear your pilot say hey, watch right.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, we're going to do a little
Speaker 2: loop de loop here about seven forty seven No no
Speaker 2: no no, no.
Speaker 5: Right, right, So you've got invulnerability which says consequence has happened,
Speaker 5: but they won't happen to me.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's kind of close to the manco thing actually,
Speaker 2: but go ahead? What else? What else?
Speaker 5: We got impulsivity? It causes people to act before.
Speaker 2: They think, yeah, that's not a good thing.
Speaker 5: Okay, then you've got anti authority, which says you can't
Speaker 5: tell me what to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you on that. I definitely hear you
Speaker 2: on that. And to some times, you know, let it
Speaker 2: be positive if someone in your in a position of
Speaker 2: authority over you is telling you to do something that
Speaker 2: you shouldn't do. But I'm by that little too. Go ahead.
Speaker 5: And then finally, resignation if the hasard's attitude. That causes
Speaker 5: people that feel they can't make a difference when they can't.
Speaker 5: So it says what's the youth?
Speaker 2: So like giving up? Is what? That sounds to me?
Speaker 2: Like giving up?
Speaker 5: Absolutely? So the issue with resignation is it causes us
Speaker 5: to prematurely end. What would otherwives have been successful?
Speaker 2: Did you learn about these rick? You were I assume
Speaker 2: a commercial airline pilot.
Speaker 5: Correct, So I was a commercial pilot, but I was
Speaker 5: on the private side, so I flew a private yet.
Speaker 2: Okay, absolutely, Well, that's that's a lot of responsibility. And
Speaker 2: did you learn about these in your in your time.
Speaker 2: Maybe you're still a pilot for all I know. Are
Speaker 2: you still a pilot or have you, you know, gone
Speaker 2: to to become a speaker and a writer exclusively.
Speaker 5: Speaker and writer full time.
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 5: But yes, they required us to know that these before
Speaker 5: we could get licensed. And then I was also a
Speaker 5: flight instructor, and so hey, here's why this is so important.
Speaker 5: For a flight instructor. You're going to take someone up
Speaker 5: in an airplane that does not know how to fly
Speaker 5: and hand them the controls, and your life is on board.
Speaker 5: And so these hazardous attitudes tend to arise in the
Speaker 5: flight environment. But here's the good news. Each of these
Speaker 5: hazardous attitudes also has a corresponding and to become the
Speaker 5: hazardous statitudes, And so these are applicable in business and
Speaker 5: education and ministry. I have just recently begun a series
Speaker 5: of talks at Tyler Perry Studios here in Atlanta for
Speaker 5: their mid level and executive level managers, because politan't the
Speaker 5: only people who sometimes crash, and so oftentimes when a
Speaker 5: person has a hazardous attitude, they are the last one
Speaker 5: to know. So this book is really all about self
Speaker 5: awareness and each of the hazardous attitudes are illustrated with
Speaker 5: a fable so that we can learn a costly lessons
Speaker 5: from the characters without having to pay for it ourselves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. Most people, when you speak to them,
Speaker 2: are most people who are are impacted by one of
Speaker 2: these hazardous attitudes? Are they open minded enough to say,
Speaker 2: maybe this guy's got something? Or do you got to
Speaker 2: kind of break through a facade that they have surrounded
Speaker 2: themselves with.
Speaker 5: Wonderful question if you have to break through for thought?
Speaker 5: And I will say they're not ready to go on
Speaker 5: this self awareness journey. But I think that the people
Speaker 5: who purchase this book are people who have a loved one,
Speaker 5: a family member, or someone that are supervising at their
Speaker 5: company because companies are buying this book for their employees,
Speaker 5: or they are someone who's had a crash in life.
Speaker 5: You know, sometimes getting fired the best thing that could
Speaker 5: ever happen to a person because it causes them to
Speaker 5: sober up mentally and to take a good inventory and
Speaker 5: stop and say, Okay, what did I have to do
Speaker 5: with this? Where was I wrong? Where did I miss
Speaker 5: the mark? And so Yeah, for a person who has
Speaker 5: experienced the end of something that they wanted to still
Speaker 5: be there and they're ready to go on this software
Speaker 5: and this process, then it's absolutely the books for them.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm assuming the book is available. Most folks
Speaker 2: who we talk to always it's on Amazon at good bookstores.
Speaker 2: Give us the name of the book one more time
Speaker 2: and how they can most easily get it.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's the five to subtitles Ways to Win the
Speaker 5: War Within. It's a Amazon and Bons and numbers and
Speaker 5: everywhere books. So it's also on audible if you like
Speaker 5: an audiobook, and you can find out more at architect.
Speaker 5: You're at dot com.
Speaker 2: Architect your attitude all one word dot com in the
Speaker 2: book again is the five Hazardous Attitudes colon Ways to
Speaker 2: Win the War Within. It's almost poetic. Ricky Brown, I
Speaker 2: enjoyed it very much. Thank you, Thank you, sir. We'll
Speaker 2: talk again.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much for honor with that.
Speaker 2: Catch you right back at you, and we get back.
Speaker 2: Going to talk with John Zogby, one of the three
Speaker 2: extraordinary posters that are kind enough to join us on Nightside,
Speaker 2: and we'll talk about uh figuring out through polling this election,
Speaker 2: which I think is going to be a really tough
Speaker 2: election to figure and we'll see what John Zogby, the Expert,
Speaker 2: has to say.