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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to a special edition of Sunday Night Live with

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<v Speaker 1>Gary Jeff Walker in for Mike Allen Junior. And a

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<v Speaker 1>funny thing happened on the way to this microphone tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>I walked into the studio. Mike Allen Junior was here

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready for his show. I said, wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, are we double booked? And I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>think so, why don't you do the show with me?

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<v Speaker 1>He said, you know what, I got court in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>so you go ahead. So thank you, Mike Allen Junior

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<v Speaker 1>for this platform in this hour and a half we

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<v Speaker 1>will spend together. It was interesting to hear callers at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of extra innings complaining that Austin Elmore was

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<v Speaker 1>not a homer for the Reds as they had another

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<v Speaker 1>loss to the Chicago Cubs, of course, losing the series

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<v Speaker 1>and two words about this number one Cubs good, two

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<v Speaker 1>more words Reds okay, So you just have to get

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<v Speaker 1>over it. I think at a certain point I predicted

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<v Speaker 1>the Reds would go eighty one and eighty one this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are a couple of games behind my predictions,

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<v Speaker 1>so they do need to pick it up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think they're a five hundred team. They were

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<v Speaker 1>always going to be a five hundred team, and so

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<v Speaker 1>there we go. I spent the afternoon with my lovely wife,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris to two point zero after celebrating our eleventh wedding

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<v Speaker 1>anniversary yesterday at Alex Egan's wedding reception, which was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Alex and Shannon got married yesterday, and

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<v Speaker 1>we did that the way we usually spend Sunday afternoons,

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<v Speaker 1>not watching or listening to the Reds, but watching professional golf.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can say, well, it's like watching paint dry

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<v Speaker 1>or watching the grass and the rough grow. Not so

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<v Speaker 1>much at the Memorial Beautiful Golf Course, a very difficult

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<v Speaker 1>golf course in Columbus and Mirfield that Jack Nicholas himself designed,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the goat of all times in professional golf, and

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<v Speaker 1>Scottie Scheffler once again proved why he's the world number

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<v Speaker 1>one player. More on that maybe later, but first and foremost,

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<v Speaker 1>I found out in August of twenty nineteen, in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of having all kinds of health problems, that I

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<v Speaker 1>was a Type two diabetic. I think by a one

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<v Speaker 1>C was nine point two. My blood sugar was off

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<v Speaker 1>the charts and wonder of wonders. It had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to do, I'll bet with thirty five years of, among

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<v Speaker 1>other things, drinking Jack Daniels and Coca Cola on a

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<v Speaker 1>regular basis, having an unavoidable sweet tooth, not worrying about

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<v Speaker 1>the carbs I was consuming, and it goes on and

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<v Speaker 1>on and on. Well, now we have a Director of

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<v Speaker 1>Health and Human Services. You may have heard of him,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy Junior, who has started the

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<v Speaker 1>MAHA movement Make America Healthy Again, and our first guest tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>There are so many people in this country, in the

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<v Speaker 1>world that are either pre diabetic, have type two diabetes

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<v Speaker 1>like I do, or type one, and they are bound

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<v Speaker 1>for ultimate destruction of their kidneys, the loss of limbs,

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<v Speaker 1>the loss of eyesight, and all the rest without medication.

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<v Speaker 1>Some are many are insulin resistant as well. Half of

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<v Speaker 1>the world population could be diabetic or insulin resistant by

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifty. Our guest is a healthcare and lifestyle analyst

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<v Speaker 1>and founder of US Diabetes Care. His name is Tim Keller,

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<v Speaker 1>and he joins us tonight to talk about these issues.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great pleasure to have you on, and this

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<v Speaker 1>information pertains to a whole lot of people listening, I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 1>including most importantly me, because ultimately it's always about me.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tim, Tim right now, I am on Tim, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on met Foreman and GlyP Aside. For my type

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<v Speaker 1>two diabetes, it is under control, as they say, but

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to not be popping pills every day.

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<v Speaker 1>That may have other implications for my ultimate health and

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<v Speaker 1>ultimate goals.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing good, Gary, I'm good, evening. So you

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<v Speaker 2>hit a couple of touching points here. Diabetes is you know.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is is Medicare Medicaid numbers. So there's ninety

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<v Speaker 2>three million pre diabetics and there's thirty nine million diabetics.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are Medicare Medicaid numbers. That's crazy, right You you

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<v Speaker 2>put the number around, you get the same number. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you right now, there's two and a

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<v Speaker 2>half of four Americans, in my opinion, are diabetic. From

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<v Speaker 2>our data analytics and things we've done. The scary part is, Gary,

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<v Speaker 2>we have children of type two diabetes from the alarming

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<v Speaker 2>rate that we've never seen before. Instant resistant, So people go,

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<v Speaker 2>what's instant resistance? So INSI resistance is the precursor to

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<v Speaker 2>TYE two, type three diabetes, cholesterol, high blood pressure, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you want? Whatever? If you have into resistance, you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have one of the disease states. So that's the

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<v Speaker 2>proven fact INSI resistance is. So people go, what is that? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Not type one? Because type one is don't upload anything

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<v Speaker 2>into the muscle because they don't produce any inflin from

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<v Speaker 2>the pancreas to the to the river rout that you

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<v Speaker 2>know makes Kluker gone. But type two, type three innso

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<v Speaker 2>resistance insert that lives in the muscle. And so people,

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<v Speaker 2>what is it? I say, diabies is a muscular disease.

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<v Speaker 2>So the cells live in the muscle. That take the

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<v Speaker 2>goose gun up to the cells, and you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>you can take the including gun up to the cells,

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<v Speaker 2>and if your cells are dysfunction, which is called metabolic disease,

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<v Speaker 2>you can live with insular resistance for ten to fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>years dormant in your body before you become a full

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<v Speaker 2>blown type two type three. Well, now what we're finding

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<v Speaker 2>out is that these kids are into the resistant already

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<v Speaker 2>and they're going into full type two diabetes. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>twelve thirteen, fourteen years old, I think two and a

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<v Speaker 2>half of four Americans are diabetic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's the number. You said. Why do you

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<v Speaker 1>say that exactly? Tim?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because Gary, So let's let's call the so you

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<v Speaker 2>said the pre diabetes earlier. There's no such thing as

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<v Speaker 2>pre diabees. I tell people you're not pre pregnant, either

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<v Speaker 2>your diabetic or not. Big Farmer came up with pre

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<v Speaker 2>diabetes as a symptom to call it. So guess what,

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<v Speaker 2>they can sell more drugs. So let's get you on

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<v Speaker 2>met form them where you're on the glup a side,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get you on the golps, all these drugs that

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<v Speaker 2>they're making a lot of money on. And the pure

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<v Speaker 2>thing is if we get people educated on what infant

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<v Speaker 2>resistance really is, not type two T three writing type

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<v Speaker 2>two or type three diabes. We know that's a symptom

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<v Speaker 2>of instant resistance, which teach people to reverse the infant resistance,

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<v Speaker 2>which reverses all disease states. How do you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>It comes through lifestyle medicine, It comes through understanding what

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<v Speaker 2>diabies really is. It comes to understanding what metabolic person

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<v Speaker 2>you are as a diabetic. You know, God made us

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<v Speaker 2>all different, we all have different I said, we all

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<v Speaker 2>have a different thumbprint, we all have different diabetic protocols.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to educate people so they can learn from lifestyle, medicine, exercise,

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<v Speaker 2>eating right, staying away from processed foods, hydroiz and ize, wheat,

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<v Speaker 2>high food those corn syrup, processed sugar and flour, all

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<v Speaker 2>these things and inter als the floor of the stores

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<v Speaker 2>and also too gary. I mean bad fats, right, bad

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<v Speaker 2>fats are I think bad fats are literally the call okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Please for me define bad fats because I know if

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<v Speaker 1>some fats are important, they're they're vital. What are what

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<v Speaker 1>are bad fats?

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<v Speaker 2>So so bad fats to me? Are you know all

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<v Speaker 2>your seed oils, Crisco vegetable oil, all the seed oils

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<v Speaker 2>that are out there, those are bad fats. They're they're

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<v Speaker 2>horrible for you. They're in all the processed foods and

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<v Speaker 2>and uh you know, so basically when we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>processed foods, anything that's in in inner aisles. If you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the ingredients on the inter ol products that

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<v Speaker 2>are all in the inner house, the source, it's all

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<v Speaker 2>got the bad fats of it.

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<v Speaker 1>What about what about tim what about canola oil? For example,

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<v Speaker 1>can oil is horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a vegetable oil. So it's so we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>good fats or avocado olive oil. You know outside of that,

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<v Speaker 2>there's not a lot of grain.

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<v Speaker 1>That's more expensive to buy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it is a little more expensive, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know what when you know, let's talk about that too.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, meat consumption, right, so everybody's eating meat breakfast, lunch,

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<v Speaker 2>and dinner. It's inflammatory. People aren't getting good meats. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not back like the old days, Gary, where you've got

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<v Speaker 2>your meat from your farmer, you split a cow or

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<v Speaker 2>a pig with a neighbor of yours. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people are going to blockbuster stores buying all this process

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<v Speaker 2>big egg meat that's all full of antibiotics and steroids

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<v Speaker 2>and everything else that you can make who knows what

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<v Speaker 2>it is. Then you're throw it on a grill. You

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<v Speaker 2>got the carcinogens. It's it's horrible to put meat in

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<v Speaker 2>your body three times a day. We don't need meat

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<v Speaker 2>consumption that much. It's inflammatory and guess what it causes?

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<v Speaker 2>An inter CELLULLPROD fat in yourself causes in resistance, which

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<v Speaker 2>causes diabetes. Now, I you know, trust me, we live

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<v Speaker 2>you know, our first center was an East Tennessee. You

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<v Speaker 2>tell East Tennessee, uh, you know that they're not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>ever meet eat meat again. They're like, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to walk out right now. I'll never come back

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<v Speaker 2>and see you.

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<v Speaker 1>That would that would be me, Jim. I would be

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<v Speaker 1>walking out right right now if I said I could

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<v Speaker 1>never eat meat again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And and and we say, look, we're not telling

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<v Speaker 2>you don't eat meat, but eat meat from a source.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you're you're where you're getting it from. Get

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<v Speaker 2>your fat sources, from good fat sources. Because I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>tell you right now. Mexican, you look at the Mexican

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<v Speaker 2>population of black population, right they're riddle of diabetes. And

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<v Speaker 2>people go, why is that? Why are those two populations

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<v Speaker 2>riddle of diabetes? Because they have they cook with the

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<v Speaker 2>most unhealthiest fats. Their food tastes great. Don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>I love I love a good Mexican mill or soul

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<v Speaker 2>food meal. But they're cooking with the most unhealthy fats,

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<v Speaker 2>which is causing in resists in their body, which causes

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<v Speaker 2>their diabetes. And and this is the problem. Gary. No

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<v Speaker 2>one has been you know, no one's being educated. And

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<v Speaker 2>even with the Maha movie you took. I love our junior,

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<v Speaker 2>love what he's trying to do. But the last thing

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<v Speaker 2>he just says, like, hey, what's hey, let's do some

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<v Speaker 2>cooking classes. And I'm like, okay, I mean that's great,

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<v Speaker 2>but cooking classes is like one of the keys of

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<v Speaker 2>a piano of eighty eight keys, right, there's there's eighty

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<v Speaker 2>there's eighty seven more keys on a piano. We got

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<v Speaker 2>to do so much more than just talking about cooking classes.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if we can teach you lot to cook

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<v Speaker 2>healthy are great, but we got to make better choices

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<v Speaker 2>of what we're cooking. And it really comes down the

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<v Speaker 2>airy is functional education of what diabetes really is.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, So I knew that I had a problem

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<v Speaker 1>a long time ago, but I was one of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys who just never went to the doctor. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I had an incidence with my hypertension, which I also suffered,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am on medication for UH, and thought I

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<v Speaker 1>was having a heart attack and went to the emergency

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<v Speaker 1>room and that's when I find out that I've got

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<v Speaker 1>this skyrocketing a one. See that my blood sugar is

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<v Speaker 1>out of control, and no wonder, UH, are there any

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<v Speaker 1>good sugars.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Gary, So let's talk about what happened to you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you know why you have eye blood pressure

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<v Speaker 2>because you have instant resistance. You know why you have

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<v Speaker 2>diabetes because you have instant resistance. You know why you

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<v Speaker 2>and and and and talk about sugars. What are good

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<v Speaker 2>bad sugars? So you know processed sugar. Okay, So the

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<v Speaker 2>granulized white sugar that everybody loves that's in everything, by

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<v Speaker 2>so much. If you took if you take the original sugar, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Took I took a stock of sugar cane, yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>and raw sugar and consume that that wouldn't hurt me necessarily,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean everything. Yeah, okay, yeah, you out.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing is, Gary, that the sugar cane is

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<v Speaker 2>a fibrous, chewy, hard stock. Right. But then they take

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<v Speaker 2>we've got processed sugar. It's more addicting than cocaine. It's

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<v Speaker 2>scientifically more addicted than cocaine. It's in everything. And I

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<v Speaker 2>heard your segment before we came on about the rum

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<v Speaker 2>and cokes. There's nothing worse that you could have been

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, Jack Daniels and coke.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you about this. What about all of

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<v Speaker 1>these zero sugar products that have been introduced in the

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<v Speaker 2>You might as well be drinking the regular coke. Really, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's worse because the thing is is that now you

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<v Speaker 2>trick your body into something that you think is healthy,

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<v Speaker 2>but guess what, it breaks it down the same way

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<v Speaker 2>as still breaks down the sugar that your body. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Timothy recognized, the sugar gets broken back down into sugar.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're you know, we're tricking ourselves thinking we're doing

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we you know, we deal with this all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. Gary hydrate, hydrate, hydrate, water water water And

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<v Speaker 2>that's not that's not water. Well sweet tea has water

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<v Speaker 2>give you the magic wand right, so we do a

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<v Speaker 2>DIVEES education, right, So we're we're DIVINGES focused. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred ounces of water a day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, and half your body weighting ounces of water

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<v Speaker 2>a day is a recommended dose. Fiber. No one eats fiber.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what fiber day you suggest, Tim?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, all fiber comes from natural fruits and vegetables. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you eat a lot of fruits and vegetables, you're

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<v Speaker 1>And the sugars in those natural fruits and vegetables are

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's the that's the that's the biggest lie in

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<v Speaker 2>the difference between fruit toolts and sugar fruit tailts that

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<v Speaker 2>a healthy way. It actually regulates over time in a

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<v Speaker 2>have carbs and them they're healthy carves, they're fast acting carbs.

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<v Speaker 2>They're they're not dense carves that we're eating from anything

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<v Speaker 2>from carved from that are dense carbs that we're eating.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's terrible for your health. We don't. We don't.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of bread is good for you?

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<v Speaker 2>If any so they ezekiel bread or sprouted bread is

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<v Speaker 2>the bread people should be eating if they want to

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<v Speaker 2>eat bread, and you know what, it tastes great gary.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me an example give me an example of sprouted

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you get you know, any whole food store,

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<v Speaker 2>any grocer store has it there most time in the freezer,

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<v Speaker 2>all because you know, guess whe they don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>preservices and the bread that you know, they actually got

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<v Speaker 2>to freeze. And it's there's all kinds of brands out there,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're sprout of bread. Basically. It takes the sprout

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<v Speaker 2>of the wheat and they make the bread from there.

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<v Speaker 2>Not the hyperis and ied wheat, which is a double

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<v Speaker 2>and you know what I mean, once you get used

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<v Speaker 2>from the breadt take. I love raisin bread, right, so

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<v Speaker 2>I get a zekio bread from the store called it

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<v Speaker 2>sprout of the zeco bread right from the frozen section,

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any kind of pasta that you can eat?

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<v Speaker 2>So any any pasta right like brown like rice? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so brown rice, you know, metabolizes a lot slower. It

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<v Speaker 2>is a great rice for you. Bread uh are pasta

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<v Speaker 2>same thing. Your wheat pastas are are your plant based

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<v Speaker 2>pastas that are made from you know, any kind of

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<v Speaker 2>plant based origin. There's a lot of them out there now.

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<v Speaker 2>Once again tastes great. They don't taste any different than

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<v Speaker 2>than apasta you're eating, uh, couliflower pasta. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many, so many brands out there now that are

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<v Speaker 2>a healthy option. But the enriched white pasta made from

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<v Speaker 1>What about say you? I know alcohol is never good

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<v Speaker 1>for you in large amounts especially, and they're all.

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<v Speaker 2>Very very here because I love alcohol.

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<v Speaker 1>But all right, so, uh what about wine as an

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<v Speaker 1>alternative to say, uh, distilled spirits or beer?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so wine has a lot of sugar, so we

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<v Speaker 2>tell people there want to drink it's anything clear. So

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<v Speaker 2>Vodker tequila is a good source wine? Weld it was

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<v Speaker 2>sugar gary.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Well I'm not a whino, so, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I tend to be more on the sour mass side.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do enjoy a good vodka from time to time.

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<v Speaker 1>And you say I mock in tequila. I think is

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to drinking, to drink all right? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>well listen, where can people find out more?

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<v Speaker 2>You got a website ten Yeah, so usdiabetescare dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Again usdibescare dot com. We have a learn more tab

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<v Speaker 2>on there. You can get the app from the website,

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<v Speaker 2>which is an educational app for diabetes. We also are

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<v Speaker 2>on Apple and Android the App Store US diabyes Care Education.

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<v Speaker 2>You can download the app from there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim, very informative. I appreciate it. I hope I can

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<v Speaker 1>follow at least some of your advice so I can

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<v Speaker 1>be healthier. The one thing I have in my favor

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<v Speaker 1>is that I'm not obese. I'm not overweight, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big problem too. All of these things contribute to obesity.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, well, there's a lot of OBC factors that contribute

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<v Speaker 2>to diabetes. But you know, but you know what, Gary,

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<v Speaker 2>we've scientifically have foun out in the last you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen years of obese. This isn't the only cause. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we got even children out there that aren't opees that

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<v Speaker 2>It's a it's a systematic of what you're putting into

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<v Speaker 2>your body. All right, so well, but but but but

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<v Speaker 2>trust me, you're right, you know obesit does play a factor.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Tim Keller, thank you so much. This is

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<v Speaker 1>great information for me and I hope somebody else listening

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<v Speaker 1>got something from this conversation. It is a Sunday Night

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<v Speaker 1>Live with Gary Jeff Walker in for Mike Allen Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>And up next thing in Rosenbaum on the explosion of

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<v Speaker 1>anti Semitism not just on campuses, but seemingly everywhere. It

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<v Speaker 1>is Sunday Night Live, Garry Jeff Walker in for Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Allen Junior. This Sunday evening went a pleasure to be

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<v Speaker 1>with You. Didn't know if we were actually gonna get here, Hm.

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<v Speaker 1>But just today you may have heard in the news

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI investigating a targeted terror attack after several people

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<v Speaker 1>were injured Sunday today when a suspect threw an explosive

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<v Speaker 1>device at a pro Israel rally in Boulder, Colorado. Witnesses

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<v Speaker 1>described a Molotov cocktail like object striking protesters demanding Gaza

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<v Speaker 1>hostage releases. Several injured, and again the FBI cash Hotel

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<v Speaker 1>calling this a targeted terror attack. We are aware of

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<v Speaker 1>and fully investigating a targeted terror attack in Boulder, Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Cash Betel, on x local media signed eyewitnesses

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<v Speaker 1>describing a man throwing something resembling a homemade Molotov cocktail

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<v Speaker 1>of a group calling for the release of Israeli hostages

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<v Speaker 1>held in Gaza. It's just another one of those stories

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<v Speaker 1>that are becoming more and more prevalent, sadly in this

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<v Speaker 1>The bad guys are not Jews, They're not Israelis, They're Hamas.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the ones that committed the atrocity and the bloodbath.

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<v Speaker 1>On October seventh, going on how many months are we

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish museum in Washington, DC. Anti Semitism is a real

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<v Speaker 1>threat not just to Jews, but to the Western way

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<v Speaker 1>of life. And I say to all Americans to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this is a CBS News legal analyst who has

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<v Speaker 1>studied anti Semitism and what's going on in their college campuses.

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<v Speaker 1>The global Intifada that has been declared and is being

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<v Speaker 1>espoused by these many varied groups who want it basically

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<v Speaker 1>not only cause and call for the destruction of Israel

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<v Speaker 1>the death of all Jews and ultimately the destruction of

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<v Speaker 1>Western culture. His name is Thane Rosenbaum, and he joins

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<v Speaker 1>us now. Thank good evening, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Gerry, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you say that the rhetoric on college campuses we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen run rampid over the last couple of years, Columbia

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<v Speaker 1>at Harvard and many, many other of these college campuses

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<v Speaker 1>is responsible for the murders of the two young beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>people in Washington, d C. A couple of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me why you say that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Gary, it's really only in support of Palestinian rights

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<v Speaker 3>that you see violence all around the world. This is

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<v Speaker 3>new to the United States. But if we lived in

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<v Speaker 3>London or Paris, or Madrid or Stockholm or any of

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<v Speaker 3>the other major capitals throughout Europe where you've had in

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<v Speaker 3>the Islamisation of the continent, you'd see you know, remember

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<v Speaker 3>the cartoonists in Denmark and in France that were murdered.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember, you know that this is this is not new.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, in France they've lost are fifty thousand Jews

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<v Speaker 3>have moved to Israel because it's become unbearable. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>This is not new. It's only with respect to Islam.

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<v Speaker 3>To phrases like death to America, there's no there's no

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<v Speaker 3>other people on earth that screamed death to America, death

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<v Speaker 3>to the Pope, death to British. You know, Danish cartoonists,

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<v Speaker 3>death to French cartoonists. There's only one group of people

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<v Speaker 3>that's screamed. You get forty thousand people to scream, and

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<v Speaker 3>now we see it on campuses. You have people who

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<v Speaker 3>come from Arab and Middle East and Islamic societies that

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<v Speaker 3>have imported their level of violence, not just to places

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<v Speaker 3>like Dearborn, Michigan, where there's a large percentage of the Islamists,

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<v Speaker 3>but all throughout the campuses that have been indoctrinated. So

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<v Speaker 3>if you if you scream Gary genocide all the time

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<v Speaker 3>in campus is if you scream globalizing into pada, global

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<v Speaker 3>lies into Pada, says well, the antapada means the killing

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<v Speaker 3>of Jews in Israel. Oh I see, So if you

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<v Speaker 3>globalize it, you can kill them outside of a museum

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<v Speaker 3>in Washington, d C. Or Or you could kill them

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<v Speaker 3>at a rally inside and Boulder globalizing into fada. So

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<v Speaker 3>you know these are not just slogans they're marching orders,

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<v Speaker 3>they're you know, terror requests, and we're seeing it being

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<v Speaker 3>acted upon.

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<v Speaker 1>You did not see the the IDF or a group

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<v Speaker 1>of Jews going into the Gaza strip and cutting off

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<v Speaker 1>the heads of innocent civilians. You did not see them

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<v Speaker 1>kidnapping them and holding them hostage. You do not hear

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<v Speaker 1>Jews anywhere in the world calling for the death of

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<v Speaker 1>people who call themselves Palestinians. And now I have a

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<v Speaker 1>really really hard time with even the term Palestinian. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a it's kind of a made up construct

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<v Speaker 1>as far as I understand.

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<v Speaker 3>Historically, well, Garrett, there's never been a Palestinian nation. No,

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<v Speaker 3>there's never been. There's never been, for five minutes, a

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<v Speaker 3>country with a government, with a currency, with a flag

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<v Speaker 3>that has been a Palestinian homeland with uge talk about

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<v Speaker 3>with a language. Yes, when you talk about stealing land,

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<v Speaker 3>what land? Uh, The land has always it started out

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<v Speaker 3>as the king Kingdom of Judah Judea under King David

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<v Speaker 3>and King Solomon. We know that from the Old Testament

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<v Speaker 3>and hid it and and by the time the Greeks

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<v Speaker 3>and the Romans at that point, that part of the

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<v Speaker 3>world had always been occupied. Guess what until Israel reclaimed it.

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<v Speaker 3>So it went from the Jews the ancestral homeland of

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<v Speaker 3>the Jews until the return of the ancestral homeland of

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<v Speaker 3>the Jewy.

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<v Speaker 1>And they talk about that. They talk talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>settlements in the West as being occupied by Jews. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always been occupied by Jews. And I will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you I think that the Israeli government and the Jewish people

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<v Speaker 1>have been very welcoming of the Arabs who were sent

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<v Speaker 1>there as refugees back in the nineteen sixties by the

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<v Speaker 1>other Arab countries who did not want them in their country, Jordan, Syria.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a complete rewriting of history that has made

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<v Speaker 1>up this false narrative that there is a Palestinian homeland

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<v Speaker 1>in Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first of all, let's talk about Gaza. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I have a new book out Beyond Proportionality, Israel's Just

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<v Speaker 3>War and Gozo, which debunks all of the talk of

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<v Speaker 3>genocide and Palestinian statehood and the five rejected offers of

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<v Speaker 3>a homeland to the Palestinians. They keep rejecting it because

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<v Speaker 3>they really don't want to share the land with Jews.

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<v Speaker 3>They want what their charter says, Both Hamas and the

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<v Speaker 3>PLO dead Jews. They're interested. That's what's from the river

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<v Speaker 3>to the sea means yep, Palestine will be flee. It

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<v Speaker 3>means they'll be without Jews. So you know Israel, twenty

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<v Speaker 3>percent of Israel is made up of Arabs, and they

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<v Speaker 3>have full civil and political rights. They serve on the

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<v Speaker 3>Supreme Court, they serve in the legislature. They are entitled

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<v Speaker 3>to all the rights and privileges of Israelis. But the

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<v Speaker 3>Palestinians have said if they ever have a homeland, not

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<v Speaker 3>a single Jew could live there. So you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 3>as you pointed out, people who six thousand people invaded

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<v Speaker 3>Israel on October seventh. People. Forget four thousand were Hamas,

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand were civilians. So that means civilians were involved

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<v Speaker 3>in gang raping teenagers who were just at a rock concert.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the part that's so demented.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary.

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<v Speaker 1>They were involved in They were involved in raping women,

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<v Speaker 1>then beheading those, cutting babies out of women's stomachs. These

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<v Speaker 1>atrocities are unmatched in modern history.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing and the Nazis didn't do anything like this. The

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<v Speaker 3>Nazis would be would be horrified. You would you were

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<v Speaker 3>cutting off the breasts of women who only a barbarian

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<v Speaker 3>does that. That's the Nazis would blanche and say, we

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<v Speaker 3>who does stuff like this? But besides which, Gary, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you this is how twisted things are and how

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<v Speaker 3>anti semitic this issue is, because why would students on

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<v Speaker 3>campus be cheering for terrorists who invaded a rock concert

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<v Speaker 3>with kids that had nose rings and tattoos. These were

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<v Speaker 3>not religious Jews. They weren't religious. They were on a Saturday,

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<v Speaker 3>were at a rock concert, so you would think the

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<v Speaker 3>opposite would happen. You gang raped girls in front of

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<v Speaker 3>their boyfriends. You beheaded people, you you torched babies, You

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00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:01.359
<v Speaker 3>put babies into ovens, And when you're cheering that on,

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<v Speaker 3>you should have been saying, these were people just like us.

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<v Speaker 3>They went to a rock concert, and look how things

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00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.279
<v Speaker 3>ended up. We should all fly down to North Egypt,

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<v Speaker 3>go up to the border with Gaza and demand the

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<v Speaker 3>return of the hostages. Instead, everything got twisted, and the

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<v Speaker 3>posters of babies and children and people who were kidnapped

508
00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:22.960
<v Speaker 3>got torn down, and on October eighth, all of a

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<v Speaker 3>sudden it became Israel's fault.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's have some clarity here too, thing because many of

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<v Speaker 1>the anti jew protesters, the anti Semitic protesters, are claiming

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<v Speaker 1>that they're protests on American campuses, that vandalism and violence

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<v Speaker 1>and the intimidation of Jewish students on campuus is a

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<v Speaker 1>protected First Amendment right. There is nothing constitutionally protected. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not constitutionally constitutionally protected freedom of speech.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, as you know, I'm leading analysts by trade,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm also a law professor, and and I've written a

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<v Speaker 3>book on the First Amendment on top of that, right,

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<v Speaker 3>let me let so on. So you're actually talking to

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<v Speaker 3>someone who actually knows what he's saying. So this is

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<v Speaker 3>what's so crazy that even law professors are afraid to

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<v Speaker 3>speak because they know that if I went on campus

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<v Speaker 3>and said I'm opposed to racial preferences, I'm opposed to

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<v Speaker 3>any and I'm not, but I'm saying, let's say I was,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm opposed to any policy that prefers people of color.

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<v Speaker 3>And the way I choose to express the view is

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<v Speaker 3>to scream lynch blacks, lynch blacks, lynch blacks. I would

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<v Speaker 3>be shot in ten minutes. I should be suspended from school,

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<v Speaker 3>I should be you know, any you.

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<v Speaker 1>Should be under you should be under investigation by the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Lynch Lynch Blacks, Lynch Block. Could you imagine that's exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what you're telling people. Now you're saying no, no, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't mean that. They just say globalized into fada

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<v Speaker 3>because they want to support Palestinians and they're objecting to

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<v Speaker 3>Israeli's policies. And I said, are you kidding me? You

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<v Speaker 3>mean I could say Lynch blacks and pretend that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>actually interested in something else, because this is something that

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<v Speaker 3>I latch onto a slogan from the river to the sea.

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<v Speaker 3>So no, the Supreme Court presidents are very clear, language

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<v Speaker 3>that constitutes a true threat under Virginia versus Black is

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<v Speaker 3>not protected speech. Language that incites imminent lawlessness in mobs

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<v Speaker 3>and crowds. That's Brandon Burg versus the United States, Brandon

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<v Speaker 3>versus Fio. That's not protected speech. And words that are

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<v Speaker 3>designed to get you to fight back, fighting words in

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<v Speaker 3>New hamps Chepunsky versus Just Hampshire. These are all three

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<v Speaker 3>Supreme Court cases. They're all valid law. Supreme Court President

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<v Speaker 3>in which it's very clear that there is no First

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<v Speaker 3>Amendment safeguards for people that engage in intimidating threats, fighting words,

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<v Speaker 3>or incitement and imminent lawlessness. And yet you have people

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<v Speaker 3>with a straight face on campus saying you can't stop

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<v Speaker 3>me because I have a First Amendment right to say

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<v Speaker 3>whatever I want.

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<v Speaker 1>How many people in the Queers for Palestine movement would

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<v Speaker 1>be welcome in an Islamist country? And how long do

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<v Speaker 1>you think they would last? Thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just again, what is this?

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<v Speaker 1>Gary?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this pure anti Semitism or pure ignorance?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Because you're Queers for Palestine? Do they not know that

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<v Speaker 3>homosexuals are either strung up on cranes or thrown off

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<v Speaker 3>of ruths? Do they not know that women are beheaded

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<v Speaker 3>or dismembered if their husbands accuse them of jet of infidelity.

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<v Speaker 3>All they have to do is be accused of it.

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<v Speaker 3>In some of these countries, the beheadings are automatic under

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<v Speaker 3>Sharia law if there's a If there's infidelity, women are

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<v Speaker 3>las for sitting in a car with a man. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>this is where feminists are really where the American feminists

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<v Speaker 3>are latching on to Hamas in Israel, homosexuals, women they

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<v Speaker 3>all go to rock concerts, right, they all? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>can sit together. There is no apart height. Men and

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<v Speaker 3>women hold hands, Women and women hold hands. The only

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<v Speaker 3>place throughout the Middle East that is both a democracy

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<v Speaker 3>and exercises. You know, pluralism is Israel. And yet you

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<v Speaker 3>hear people chanting in support of barbarians again given the crimes.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I've always said, and I say this in

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<v Speaker 3>this book, beyond proportionality Israel, just war in Gaza. The

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<v Speaker 3>minute you heard the word beheadings, Gary, it should have

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<v Speaker 3>been ballgames, right, she does? What?

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<v Speaker 2>What did you just say?

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<v Speaker 3>This is the twenty first century? Who's beheading beever?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 3>You're throwing babies into ovens? What? What are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think, sane? What do you think about

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<v Speaker 1>the moves by the Trump administration to remove these foreign

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<v Speaker 1>student students on foreign visas that are foamating this hate,

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<v Speaker 1>that are preaching this violence and exacting this violence in

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<v Speaker 1>our country, that actually don't want to assimilate or enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the freedoms of this country, but want to subjugate other

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<v Speaker 1>people and want to again import their hate onto American soil.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I just hope that these universities are listening

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<v Speaker 1>loud and that President trumpet and the and the DOJ

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<v Speaker 1>has got their attention now and they will understand as

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<v Speaker 1>these court fights continue how wrong minded they have been

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<v Speaker 1>and misrepresenting this as freedom of speech.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. Also, Gary, you know, I think Marco Route, the

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<v Speaker 3>Secutary of States, has his points is and when he says,

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<v Speaker 3>why are you here? Are you here to study or

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<v Speaker 3>to agitate antagonism to break down civil discourse and social

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<v Speaker 3>cohesion in the United States, spread anti semitism, mess with

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<v Speaker 3>everyone's head. Are you here to study or are you're

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<v Speaker 3>here to protest?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you're here to.

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<v Speaker 3>Protest, why are you here? You've just taken away a

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<v Speaker 3>spot from an American student. We let you in largely

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<v Speaker 3>for diversity reasons and because you're willing to pay the

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<v Speaker 3>full ride, and we don't normally ask Americans to pay

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00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.840
<v Speaker 3>the full ride, so we gave you this privilege. And

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<v Speaker 3>instead of studying during form finals exams, you are setting

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<v Speaker 3>up encampments and spreading anti Semitism and spreading lies about

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<v Speaker 3>Israel and the United States. You are taking the kethia

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<v Speaker 3>and the Palestinian flag, whatever that means, and draping it

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<v Speaker 3>over a statue of George Washington George Washington University. When

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<v Speaker 3>that happened. I thought, isn't that ballgame? Americans are okay

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<v Speaker 3>with this. They're painting on the face of George Washington

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<v Speaker 3>and putting a kafia around him in a Palestinian flag. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>you're burning flags in Dearborn, Michigan. This is this what

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<v Speaker 3>we're seeing now in the United States, certainly on campus,

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<v Speaker 3>but even in some cities. Patterson, New Jersey and Dearborn,

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<v Speaker 3>Michigan is very familiar to Europeans. From two thousand and

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<v Speaker 3>five on. There's an enormous around of buyer's remorse because

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<v Speaker 3>there is no interest in assimilation. There's no interest in

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<v Speaker 3>buying into liberal democracy. The interest is spreading the Caliphate.

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you, Sane Rosenbaum, that I have hope.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that in cash Bettel, in Christy, Nome, and

627
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<v Speaker 1>in Pambondy, and in President Trump, there's a new sheriff

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<v Speaker 1>in town. And I think you're right, Eric, they are

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention, Sane Rosenbaum. What's the name of the book again, Sane?

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<v Speaker 3>Beyond proportionality, Israel's just war in Gaza. If you have

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<v Speaker 3>a cousin or a student or a friend who has

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<v Speaker 3>very stupid, simplistic view of what's going on in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a book for you. It explains everything. It

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<v Speaker 3>even talks about culture, movies, history, anecdotes about World War Two.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody said that the dropping of two atomic bombs in

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<v Speaker 3>Japan was genocide. Not one student was marching in favor

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<v Speaker 3>of that. We see self defense all the time, Gary,

638
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<v Speaker 3>and it's never been genocided. If this is genocide, then

639
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<v Speaker 3>genocide is COVID. Genocide is anytime anyone dies for any reason.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what they're really saying. Do you kill people it's

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<v Speaker 3>a genocide, and that it's a lie, it's a distortion,

642
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<v Speaker 3>and guess what, it's an insult to people who did

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<v Speaker 3>suffer genocide.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed, thank you so much for your time, Thane, Thank you, Gary.

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<v Speaker 1>You bet we will switch gears lighting up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>My friend Greg Jones is scheduled to join us in studio.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Jones is a Nashville songwriter. He's a friend of mine,

648
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<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk about the music business a little bit

649
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<v Speaker 1>and anything else that comes to mind. And take your

650
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<v Speaker 1>calls if you're feeling frisky. It's Sunday Night Live, Gary

651
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<v Speaker 1>Jeff and for Mike Allen Junior tonight on seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a special edition of Sunday Night Live. Gary Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Walker in for Mike Allen Jr. And joining me in

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<v Speaker 1>this half hour is another JJ, Greg Jones, a buddy

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<v Speaker 1>that I met. He was he We ought to tell

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<v Speaker 1>the story of how we first met Greg. Let's do so.

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<v Speaker 2>Greg.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg is part time in Smyrna, Tennessee, Middle Tennessee, Nashville area,

659
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<v Speaker 1>and part of the time here with his girlfriend Victoria,

660
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<v Speaker 1>and he was in town. Came into Huddles where I'm bartending,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, hey, man, mate, what's your name, Greg Jones?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do? He said, well, I mean, among

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<v Speaker 1>other things, I'm a Nashville songwriter. I said, oh cool.

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<v Speaker 1>You where you live? He said, well, I go back

665
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<v Speaker 1>and forth between here and I got a home in Smyrna, Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Smyrna, Tennessee. I got a brother who works

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<v Speaker 1>at a bar as a cook and a bartender and Smyrna,

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee at a place called Chappies. He goes Chappies, that's

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<v Speaker 1>my bar. And I said, do you know Johnny? He said,

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny's your brother. I said, yeah, Johnny's my brother. And

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<v Speaker 1>we'd never met, never laid eyes on each other until

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<v Speaker 1>that day. Serendipitous. Yeah yeah, I think. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a god thing. But anyway, brought us together and we've

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<v Speaker 1>been buddies ever since. And I said, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to come in. I'm doing this show on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday night. Let's talk a little bit about the music

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<v Speaker 1>business in your career and what you've been into. And

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<v Speaker 1>uh so, here we are. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm certainly into what you're doing. I'd love your show.

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<v Speaker 4>You're a talk radio fanatic.

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely am.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a junkie maybe a little too much, but I

683
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<v Speaker 4>love my talk radio.

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<v Speaker 1>He came into the bar the other day and was

685
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<v Speaker 1>doing his Clay Travis impression from Clay Travis and the

686
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<v Speaker 1>Buck Sexton Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Buck, Buck, listen, Buck, correct me if I'm wrong,

688
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:32.159
<v Speaker 4>you would know better than Ibuck. However, however, funny having

689
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<v Speaker 4>said that, he just feels a love.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you a fan of Rush Limbaugh?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Huge, Yeah. Rush Limbaugh is the reason that I wanted

693
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<v Speaker 1>to get into talk radio. I was doing music radio

694
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<v Speaker 1>was about seven eight years in a nineteen eighty seven

695
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<v Speaker 1>or so, and I went out for lunch one day.

696
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<v Speaker 1>I was at the station, went out for lunch, turned

697
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<v Speaker 1>out and I had a car that only had an

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<v Speaker 1>AM radio. I'm on an FM radio station, but I've

699
00:42:56.519 --> 00:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>got a car that's only got AM and I'm tuning

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<v Speaker 1>in the local station there in Nashville, and I hear

701
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<v Speaker 1>Rush Limbaugh for the first time. I said, you know what,

702
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<v Speaker 1>that's really what I want to do. The music thing

703
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:12.519
<v Speaker 1>kind of bores me, and so that gave me kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a template. Rush was my inspiration to eventually do

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<v Speaker 1>talk radio, and I was lucky and blessed enough to

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<v Speaker 1>get to do it when I started here at seven

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00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:26.360
<v Speaker 1>hundred WLW ten years later in nineteen ninety seven. Today

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<v Speaker 1>is special for me, Greg because today is officially my

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<v Speaker 1>forty fifth anniversary in doing professional radio. I started June first,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty at a little station in Gallatin, Tennessee. They're

711
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:47.760
<v Speaker 1>in Middle Tennessee area. We both lived there, and so

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<v Speaker 1>either it's and you say forty five years, one of

713
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:56.679
<v Speaker 1>three things comes to mind, Well, you're really old. That's

714
00:43:56.800 --> 00:44:01.920
<v Speaker 1>probably close to the truth. They haven't figured out that

715
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<v Speaker 1>you have no talent yet, or you are a glutton

716
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:09.400
<v Speaker 1>for punishment. And I think all three things could be true.

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<v Speaker 4>I can tell you, Yeah, bridging that gap with music

718
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:17.519
<v Speaker 4>and talk radio, all of it, you know, just loving radio.

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<v Speaker 4>Rush lim Ball taking me back to a kid. He

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<v Speaker 4>was our announcer for the Royals. I'm a baseball finactic too.

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<v Speaker 4>You lived in Kansas City and the city from the first,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, twelve years of life. And then we moved

723
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<v Speaker 4>to Cincinnati in the Milford area and I graduated Milford

724
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:34.800
<v Speaker 4>High School. But Rush lim Ball was our sports announcer

725
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<v Speaker 4>prior to eighty seven at the Royals. Royals absolutely so

726
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<v Speaker 4>every night. You know, before he was the national EIB.

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting Excellence and I still in broadcasting in the golden microphone. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And his voice, you know, he just had the voice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>And so he's real big in those parts. Obviously he

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<v Speaker 4>started having gotten his start, I guess, so to speak

731
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<v Speaker 4>there and like kind of like you're from from Gollaton, Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think that stace is probably still on.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh w h I n is still there. I wasn't

734
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<v Speaker 1>able to kill it myself with my lack of talent.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't drive listeners away and droves like maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'm maybe I'm doing it tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about songs all the time. Sometimes we do.

739
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<v Speaker 1>You have written some hit country songs and you're still

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<v Speaker 1>working on it and you're doing it. I Danny, Danny

741
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:33.960
<v Speaker 1>has uh, our producer Danny Gleeson has a song that

742
00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>you wrote or co wrote that's on on an album

743
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:42.679
<v Speaker 1>by Cody Jenks. It was a single release. Maybe it

744
00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:45.480
<v Speaker 1>may be Goalie Gold at some point, you know, fingers

745
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:47.320
<v Speaker 1>are crossing the toes to it's uh.

746
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<v Speaker 4>He's he's getting a lot of gold records and platinum records.

747
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:52.880
<v Speaker 4>He's he's had a phenomenal, phenomenal career and he's still

748
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<v Speaker 4>going strong, getting stronger.

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<v Speaker 1>The song we have is the same kind of crazy

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<v Speaker 1>as me. And in the the show Landman too that

751
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:04.679
<v Speaker 1>people may be familiar with, what's that called shure did Man?

752
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:07.480
<v Speaker 4>It's called another Bad Apple And I wrote that with

753
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:12.639
<v Speaker 4>Ward Davis and Clinton Park and man Lucky Enough. Taylor

754
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:17.000
<v Speaker 4>shared in The Wonderful Talented Producer Yellowstone that was his

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00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:19.960
<v Speaker 4>new baby and rememor has it that he's a War

756
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:22.159
<v Speaker 4>Davis fan and Cody Jeans fan and those what those

757
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:24.440
<v Speaker 4>guys are doing, and just kind of kind of was

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<v Speaker 4>a fan first sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, tell me what it's like traveling around the country

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<v Speaker 1>with a major artist or a signed artist. Man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like anything else.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's it's really cool to see this country in

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<v Speaker 4>the way that we were able to do that coast

764
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<v Speaker 4>to coast and border to border and see this great country.

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<v Speaker 1>It's beautiful. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>It's got its pitfalls and stuff too, but in stains.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's a really beautiful country. And I couldn't ever

768
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<v Speaker 4>have a chance to do it in six or seven

769
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<v Speaker 4>years of touring. And we toured a lot, but I've

770
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:57.239
<v Speaker 4>been to every major city four or five times and

771
00:46:57.920 --> 00:46:58.599
<v Speaker 4>been to the border.

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00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:02.079
<v Speaker 1>And in fact, that's where that songe was cut out,

773
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<v Speaker 1>the border at the Mexican border.

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00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:09.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Adobe Sessions where Cody cuts all his records.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, cool, So tell me what the songwriting business is like.

776
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:16.119
<v Speaker 1>How much has it changed since you've been involved with it.

777
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:18.039
<v Speaker 1>How did you get involved in the first place.

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<v Speaker 4>Involved in the first place just living here in the

779
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<v Speaker 4>Cincinnati area. What a rock and roll town, and you know,

780
00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:27.559
<v Speaker 4>being in bands and around school and stuff. And I

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00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:30.199
<v Speaker 4>knew that I I uh, pretty quickly. I wanted to

782
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<v Speaker 4>get to Nashville, and the only way to do that

783
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:34.440
<v Speaker 4>was kind of get my grades up and uh, get

784
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<v Speaker 4>down there and go to college.

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00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Get your grades up.

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00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:39.639
<v Speaker 4>Well, I wash'd where'd you go to the school?

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00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:42.679
<v Speaker 1>High school? You slid through it? What Milford? Hilford High School?

788
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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:44.360
<v Speaker 1>The Eagles? Eagles?

790
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:44.800
<v Speaker 2>All right?

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00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:47.039
<v Speaker 4>So then you went to college here I did. I

792
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:49.000
<v Speaker 4>had to get my grades good enough to get into Bellmont.

793
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<v Speaker 4>Went to n KU one year, then transferred to Belmont

794
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:54.599
<v Speaker 4>the next year and met probably some of the best

795
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<v Speaker 4>people that I've still working with today.

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00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:57.679
<v Speaker 1>Lucky enough, a.

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00:47:57.320 --> 00:48:01.039
<v Speaker 4>Very talented place, ended up staying around, raising a family

798
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:03.079
<v Speaker 4>and all that, bought a house there been there ever

799
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<v Speaker 4>since then.

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<v Speaker 1>Nashville's a tough town, very tough. There are still people

801
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:13.719
<v Speaker 1>that have aspirations to go to Nashville. Is it too

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00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:17.760
<v Speaker 1>late to maybe is it easier to find your way

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00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:21.159
<v Speaker 1>in the music business in Cincinnati and then getting asked

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00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:23.480
<v Speaker 1>to come to Nashville or should people just go to

805
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:26.599
<v Speaker 1>Nashville and try? And I think it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of both.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's something healthy and getting down there among them.

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00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:32.719
<v Speaker 4>Getting a normal job at Chili's or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>You can find something to do that you can work

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<v Speaker 4>into the writing rooms and write with these better people.

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00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:42.800
<v Speaker 4>I always believe writing up and writing down meaning no disrespect,

814
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:45.119
<v Speaker 4>but right with people that are getting started to because

815
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:47.920
<v Speaker 4>you're getting started. And so a lot of years of

816
00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:50.440
<v Speaker 4>writing with artists that were willing to give me a shot,

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00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:56.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, all right, So still kind of doing that

818
00:48:56.719 --> 00:48:59.320
<v Speaker 4>formula today. I've never had a publishing deal. I've always

819
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:01.159
<v Speaker 4>kept my own bull just right.

820
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Like you're driving door dash during the day.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Hey, you know how you get a songwriter off

822
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:09.559
<v Speaker 4>the porch, pay him for the food for the pizza.

823
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<v Speaker 4>So I hear so you still every time I've gotten

824
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<v Speaker 4>a cut, and I got three cuts. Yesterday I found

825
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<v Speaker 4>out good news with Ward Davis on his new album.

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<v Speaker 4>He's coming to the south Gate House next month, War Davis,

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<v Speaker 4>So uh, I've got a lot of cuts with him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's my main songwriter. That is a very cool place,

829
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<v Speaker 1>the south Gatehouse Revival.

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<v Speaker 4>Marella Morella is our girl and she might be listening.

831
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<v Speaker 4>We saw each other at breakfast as this is the

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<v Speaker 4>other morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh mom, we got we got somebody who says

834
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:43.199
<v Speaker 1>his nephew went to school with you. Should should we

835
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<v Speaker 1>take the call? Are you afraid? No, not at all?

836
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<v Speaker 1>Don Hello, don are you there?

837
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir?

838
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:53.320
<v Speaker 1>So you're on the air with me? And with Greg.

839
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:56.480
<v Speaker 1>You say your nephew went to school with.

840
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<v Speaker 3>Greg, Yes, over at Milford. Uh, his name was, uh,

841
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<v Speaker 3>Scott Green.

842
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<v Speaker 1>Oh hey, yeah, well that's Victoria. I just Scot.

843
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<v Speaker 2>And I have a lot of respect from Nashville.

844
00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:13.679
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, Scooters, Scooters.

845
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<v Speaker 2>My name.

846
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Is Greg Jones, a reputable character. I want to know

847
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<v Speaker 1>advanced too late to ask this question since I've already

848
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:23.480
<v Speaker 1>got him in the studio. Is is this is a

849
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:25.719
<v Speaker 1>good thing that I've got him in the studio done?

850
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:26.559
<v Speaker 1>That's what I want to know.

851
00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:31.679
<v Speaker 3>Well, my nephew passed away last year.

852
00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we heard he was a great man, and I

853
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:37.119
<v Speaker 2>met him a few times and it kind of breaks

854
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:37.480
<v Speaker 2>my heart.

855
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:40.480
<v Speaker 4>Buddy, I wouldn't be sitting here. I can tell you

856
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:41.639
<v Speaker 4>that without Scott Green.

857
00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:42.159
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

858
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:44.559
<v Speaker 4>When I met him, it was Rodney, and then it

859
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:47.159
<v Speaker 4>became Scott and then just Scooter, which is awesome. And

860
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:50.800
<v Speaker 4>uh he was my personal manager. I had an agent

861
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:54.119
<v Speaker 4>back then who managed like Ikey Woods and football players,

862
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:56.360
<v Speaker 4>and uh, when I was running around these parts playing

863
00:50:56.400 --> 00:51:00.880
<v Speaker 4>clubs and casinos, and uh, he was my personal manager

864
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:03.039
<v Speaker 4>and best friends. It's seventh grade or so, one of

865
00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:04.639
<v Speaker 4>my best friends. I've got a lot of them. We

866
00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:06.800
<v Speaker 4>live in a good town and I'm sure miss him, man,

867
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:09.360
<v Speaker 4>I miss him every day, in fact his birthdays.

868
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:14.519
<v Speaker 1>His birthday's coming up this Tuesday. And so well, John,

869
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:21.440
<v Speaker 1>don take care, brother, take care, and thanks for calling.

870
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.519
<v Speaker 4>In love you guys. They're like family to meet. The

871
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:28.639
<v Speaker 4>Greens love all y'all. So when you played here in town?

872
00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:30.679
<v Speaker 4>What kind of place do you play? The usual places?

873
00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:34.159
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's been a rock town to me trying

874
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:36.719
<v Speaker 4>to be the country guy. You know, Garth Brooks was

875
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:40.440
<v Speaker 4>everything to me. I like his songwriters. I'm still got

876
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:43.079
<v Speaker 4>to be to know actually a couple of his songwriters,

877
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:46.480
<v Speaker 4>and I was just so enthralled in that. And so

878
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:48.960
<v Speaker 4>I put a country band together. We played the finish line,

879
00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:50.920
<v Speaker 4>and we played the boulevard. I was a house bend

880
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:53.559
<v Speaker 4>there for a year or two, and all the you

881
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:55.639
<v Speaker 4>know west side of town, JJ. Some of these places

882
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:59.440
<v Speaker 4>aren't there anymore. They're called something else. But we did

883
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:03.239
<v Speaker 4>it all. And Casino as a place like that. You

884
00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:06.079
<v Speaker 4>said you met Garth Brooks. You told me that you

885
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:08.280
<v Speaker 4>met Garth a couple of times. Certainly did, and you

886
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:11.480
<v Speaker 4>said it was a great experience. Both times that I

887
00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:14.960
<v Speaker 4>that I met him were very memorable. I was interning

888
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:17.760
<v Speaker 4>when I was at my university at the Capitol Records,

889
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:21.199
<v Speaker 4>and so I was invited to some parties and stuff

890
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:24.679
<v Speaker 4>and got to meet him, and Scott actually came Scott Green.

891
00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:26.480
<v Speaker 4>He made it to Nationale in about three and a

892
00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:30.599
<v Speaker 4>half hours that day. So anyway, yes, it was a

893
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:33.280
<v Speaker 4>humbling experience. And then when you meet him again, he

894
00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:35.559
<v Speaker 4>has this uncanny ability to remember you.

895
00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:39.000
<v Speaker 1>And really not he knew your name. It's not fake

896
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:44.320
<v Speaker 1>at all. Remembered you know, the conversation and without circumstance. Yeah,

897
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:46.679
<v Speaker 1>it's very cool, and I've heard that from more than one.

898
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Did you always want to do music? Yes? Yes, since

899
00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:53.119
<v Speaker 1>four or five years old. Elvis was everything.

900
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:55.280
<v Speaker 4>And then yeah, Elvis was I used to make my

901
00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:58.360
<v Speaker 4>aunt would flicker the lights and alextrobe lights and I'd

902
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:01.800
<v Speaker 4>do Elvis impersonations years old, you know, five six. So

903
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:03.559
<v Speaker 4>you say, you you just found out you got three

904
00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:06.400
<v Speaker 4>cuts today? Yesterday I found out, Yes, and what a

905
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:09.280
<v Speaker 4>what a great day. That doesn't happen very often, but uh,

906
00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:11.559
<v Speaker 4>one of my great friends, Ward Davis, great artists. He

907
00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:14.599
<v Speaker 4>sold out the rhym and you know, I mean he's

908
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:18.159
<v Speaker 4>Red Rocks and I was just tour manager for longtime friend,

909
00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:20.440
<v Speaker 4>longtime co writer. We have probably a couple of hundred

910
00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:22.679
<v Speaker 4>songs together. But he just put out a new project

911
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:25.280
<v Speaker 4>and he uh, he's included three on there.

912
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:28.000
<v Speaker 1>So I'm very excited about. That's something very for and you,

913
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:30.239
<v Speaker 1>you and I are gonna maybe write some song. We

914
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:32.280
<v Speaker 1>already got a couple that were working on. We know

915
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:33.079
<v Speaker 1>that for sure.

916
00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:35.119
<v Speaker 4>And I like what you do. I like your songs,

917
00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:37.679
<v Speaker 4>so I can't wait to hear more your. I haven't

918
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:40.559
<v Speaker 4>found a way to monetize mine yet. You've you've got,

919
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:43.400
<v Speaker 4>I tell you you've got. You've got royalty checks coming

920
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:45.960
<v Speaker 4>in every quarter making music and the money does bud.

921
00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:48.719
<v Speaker 1>That's uh.

922
00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:52.920
<v Speaker 4>I think I've still got these young artists that that

923
00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:54.880
<v Speaker 4>are cool enough to write when they give me a chance.

924
00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Man.

925
00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:58.440
<v Speaker 4>And uh, some local guys that I respect a lot

926
00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:01.519
<v Speaker 4>of Dallas Moore, you know, good friend Dallas is an

927
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:04.559
<v Speaker 4>incredible term of artist. There's another young artist here in town,

928
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:07.679
<v Speaker 4>lives in the Middletown area, west Ship. Uh, Huh, you're

929
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:09.440
<v Speaker 4>gonna hear a lot from him. He's gonna be playing

930
00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:10.079
<v Speaker 4>at Southgate.

931
00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:11.159
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

932
00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:15.760
<v Speaker 4>Sunny Sweeney, who's in radio. She's out of Texas. Sonny Sweeney,

933
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:20.400
<v Speaker 4>she's great, she's she's coming to south Gate House as well.

934
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:24.360
<v Speaker 4>So kind of a cool crew of touring artists that

935
00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:26.519
<v Speaker 4>have they've kind of kind of hit the brays together.

936
00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:29.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Marilla and the folks at south Gatehouse where if

937
00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:34.239
<v Speaker 1>I will do fantastic stuff and it's a very unique destination,

938
00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:39.239
<v Speaker 1>a great platform all kinds of artists. Six years when we.

939
00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:41.119
<v Speaker 4>Finally sold it out. You know, it's a big thing,

940
00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:43.679
<v Speaker 4>like a trophy or something that's cool. It's a it's

941
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:46.239
<v Speaker 4>an out of boy, it's everything that place.

942
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:50.599
<v Speaker 1>It's it's incredible that you could come up and spend

943
00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:52.840
<v Speaker 1>a few minutes with me. I appreciate it. It's always

944
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:54.440
<v Speaker 1>great to see you. Well, thank you man.

945
00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:56.800
<v Speaker 4>We'll see at the bar and then we'll definitely see

946
00:54:56.840 --> 00:54:59.519
<v Speaker 4>each other in huddles and we'll solve the world's problems together.

947
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:03.079
<v Speaker 1>We do that. Well, I don't know if we've actually

948
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:06.239
<v Speaker 1>done that, no, but we've talked about it anyway, and

949
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:08.400
<v Speaker 1>well we haven't been able to tell you Aboudy. It all begins,

950
00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:10.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, the left home was well, it all begins

951
00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:14.039
<v Speaker 1>with a conversation. We need to have a conversation. We

952
00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:19.239
<v Speaker 1>need to start a conversation. Greg dannyg Gleasa just said,

953
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:23.719
<v Speaker 1>with yuck in my ear, it's true, you know. But

954
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:28.840
<v Speaker 1>so anyway, it's a blessing to know you. And it's

955
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:31.079
<v Speaker 1>weird the way we came together, and you knew my

956
00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:33.760
<v Speaker 1>little brother, and I've been hearing about you for a

957
00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:34.599
<v Speaker 1>few years, you know.

958
00:55:34.599 --> 00:55:36.440
<v Speaker 4>We he and I sheet pooled together, and that's my

959
00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:38.239
<v Speaker 4>die bar there, and I got my dive bar here.

960
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:39.000
<v Speaker 1>So it worked out.

961
00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:39.239
<v Speaker 2>Man.

962
00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:42.679
<v Speaker 4>It's just like I thought, it was fate, destiny, God

963
00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:45.920
<v Speaker 4>work sending me to you, buddy, because I needed somebody

964
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:50.360
<v Speaker 4>here at the time that I was tracing my buddys footsteps.

965
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:53.239
<v Speaker 4>We talked about he got to come up in the conversation,

966
00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:54.320
<v Speaker 4>so that's pretty cool.

967
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Don.

968
00:55:55.159 --> 00:55:58.119
<v Speaker 1>Don brought up Scooter tonight. Oh yeah, you got a

969
00:55:58.199 --> 00:56:02.039
<v Speaker 1>chance to kind of relive that final memory. And I

970
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:04.840
<v Speaker 1>got to tell you as we close tonight, this has

971
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:08.519
<v Speaker 1>been a wonderful, wonderful experience being with you on a

972
00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Sunday night. I'll be back tomorrow morning at nine with

973
00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Scott Sloane out and among other things, Corey Bowman, who's

974
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:19.679
<v Speaker 1>running from mayor of Cincinnati, will join us on the phone.

975
00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Teddy Pierce, David Scarlett, John Lott from the Crime Research

976
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Prevention Center, Todd Sheets, and the great Dave Hatter of

977
00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:37.000
<v Speaker 1>cybersecurity fame, all between nine and noon tomorrow. Talk to

978
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:39.559
<v Speaker 1>you then. Until then, Bye bye,
