Speaker 1: Welcome to a special edition of Sunday Night Live with
Speaker 1: Gary Jeff Walker in for Mike Allen Junior. And a
Speaker 1: funny thing happened on the way to this microphone tonight.
Speaker 1: I walked into the studio. Mike Allen Junior was here
Speaker 1: getting ready for his show. I said, wait a minute.
Speaker 1: He goes, are we double booked? And I said, I
Speaker 1: think so, why don't you do the show with me?
Speaker 1: He said, you know what, I got court in the morning,
Speaker 1: so you go ahead. So thank you, Mike Allen Junior
Speaker 1: for this platform in this hour and a half we
Speaker 1: will spend together. It was interesting to hear callers at
Speaker 1: the end of extra innings complaining that Austin Elmore was
Speaker 1: not a homer for the Reds as they had another
Speaker 1: loss to the Chicago Cubs, of course, losing the series
Speaker 1: and two words about this number one Cubs good, two
Speaker 1: more words Reds okay, So you just have to get
Speaker 1: over it. I think at a certain point I predicted
Speaker 1: the Reds would go eighty one and eighty one this year,
Speaker 1: and there are a couple of games behind my predictions,
Speaker 1: so they do need to pick it up a little bit.
Speaker 1: But I think they're a five hundred team. They were
Speaker 1: always going to be a five hundred team, and so
Speaker 1: there we go. I spent the afternoon with my lovely wife,
Speaker 1: Chris to two point zero after celebrating our eleventh wedding
Speaker 1: anniversary yesterday at Alex Egan's wedding reception, which was fantastic.
Speaker 1: By the way, Alex and Shannon got married yesterday, and
Speaker 1: we did that the way we usually spend Sunday afternoons,
Speaker 1: not watching or listening to the Reds, but watching professional golf.
Speaker 1: And you can say, well, it's like watching paint dry
Speaker 1: or watching the grass and the rough grow. Not so
Speaker 1: much at the Memorial Beautiful Golf Course, a very difficult
Speaker 1: golf course in Columbus and Mirfield that Jack Nicholas himself designed,
Speaker 1: maybe the goat of all times in professional golf, and
Speaker 1: Scottie Scheffler once again proved why he's the world number
Speaker 1: one player. More on that maybe later, but first and foremost,
Speaker 1: I found out in August of twenty nineteen, in the
Speaker 1: middle of having all kinds of health problems, that I
Speaker 1: was a Type two diabetic. I think by a one
Speaker 1: C was nine point two. My blood sugar was off
Speaker 1: the charts and wonder of wonders. It had a lot
Speaker 1: to do, I'll bet with thirty five years of, among
Speaker 1: other things, drinking Jack Daniels and Coca Cola on a
Speaker 1: regular basis, having an unavoidable sweet tooth, not worrying about
Speaker 1: the carbs I was consuming, and it goes on and
Speaker 1: on and on. Well, now we have a Director of
Speaker 1: Health and Human Services. You may have heard of him,
Speaker 1: Robert Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy Junior, who has started the
Speaker 1: MAHA movement Make America Healthy Again, and our first guest tonight.
Speaker 1: There are so many people in this country, in the
Speaker 1: world that are either pre diabetic, have type two diabetes
Speaker 1: like I do, or type one, and they are bound
Speaker 1: for ultimate destruction of their kidneys, the loss of limbs,
Speaker 1: the loss of eyesight, and all the rest without medication.
Speaker 1: Some are many are insulin resistant as well. Half of
Speaker 1: the world population could be diabetic or insulin resistant by
Speaker 1: twenty fifty. Our guest is a healthcare and lifestyle analyst
Speaker 1: and founder of US Diabetes Care. His name is Tim Keller,
Speaker 1: and he joins us tonight to talk about these issues.
Speaker 1: It's a great pleasure to have you on, and this
Speaker 1: information pertains to a whole lot of people listening, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: including most importantly me, because ultimately it's always about me.
Speaker 1: So Tim, Tim right now, I am on Tim, right now,
Speaker 1: I'm on met Foreman and GlyP Aside. For my type
Speaker 1: two diabetes, it is under control, as they say, but
Speaker 1: I would love to not be popping pills every day.
Speaker 1: That may have other implications for my ultimate health and
Speaker 1: ultimate goals.
Speaker 2: How you doing good, Gary, I'm good, evening. So you
Speaker 2: hit a couple of touching points here. Diabetes is you know.
Speaker 2: The problem is is Medicare Medicaid numbers. So there's ninety
Speaker 2: three million pre diabetics and there's thirty nine million diabetics.
Speaker 2: Those are Medicare Medicaid numbers. That's crazy, right You you
Speaker 2: put the number around, you get the same number. But
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you right now, there's two and a
Speaker 2: half of four Americans, in my opinion, are diabetic. From
Speaker 2: our data analytics and things we've done. The scary part is, Gary,
Speaker 2: we have children of type two diabetes from the alarming
Speaker 2: rate that we've never seen before. Instant resistant, So people go,
Speaker 2: what's instant resistance? So INSI resistance is the precursor to
Speaker 2: TYE two, type three diabetes, cholesterol, high blood pressure, what
Speaker 2: do you want? Whatever? If you have into resistance, you're
Speaker 2: gonna have one of the disease states. So that's the
Speaker 2: proven fact INSI resistance is. So people go, what is that? Now?
Speaker 2: Not type one? Because type one is don't upload anything
Speaker 2: into the muscle because they don't produce any inflin from
Speaker 2: the pancreas to the to the river rout that you
Speaker 2: know makes Kluker gone. But type two, type three innso
Speaker 2: resistance insert that lives in the muscle. And so people,
Speaker 2: what is it? I say, diabies is a muscular disease.
Speaker 2: So the cells live in the muscle. That take the
Speaker 2: goose gun up to the cells, and you know what,
Speaker 2: you can take the including gun up to the cells,
Speaker 2: and if your cells are dysfunction, which is called metabolic disease,
Speaker 2: you can live with insular resistance for ten to fifteen
Speaker 2: years dormant in your body before you become a full
Speaker 2: blown type two type three. Well, now what we're finding
Speaker 2: out is that these kids are into the resistant already
Speaker 2: and they're going into full type two diabetes. You know,
Speaker 2: twelve thirteen, fourteen years old, I think two and a
Speaker 2: half of four Americans are diabetic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the number. You said. Why do you
Speaker 1: say that exactly? Tim?
Speaker 2: Well, because Gary, So let's let's call the so you
Speaker 2: said the pre diabetes earlier. There's no such thing as
Speaker 2: pre diabees. I tell people you're not pre pregnant, either
Speaker 2: your diabetic or not. Big Farmer came up with pre
Speaker 2: diabetes as a symptom to call it. So guess what,
Speaker 2: they can sell more drugs. So let's get you on
Speaker 2: met form them where you're on the glup a side,
Speaker 2: Let's get you on the golps, all these drugs that
Speaker 2: they're making a lot of money on. And the pure
Speaker 2: thing is if we get people educated on what infant
Speaker 2: resistance really is, not type two T three writing type
Speaker 2: two or type three diabes. We know that's a symptom
Speaker 2: of instant resistance, which teach people to reverse the infant resistance,
Speaker 2: which reverses all disease states. How do you do that?
Speaker 2: It comes through lifestyle medicine, It comes through understanding what
Speaker 2: diabies really is. It comes to understanding what metabolic person
Speaker 2: you are as a diabetic. You know, God made us
Speaker 2: all different, we all have different I said, we all
Speaker 2: have a different thumbprint, we all have different diabetic protocols.
Speaker 2: We have to educate people so they can learn from lifestyle, medicine, exercise,
Speaker 2: eating right, staying away from processed foods, hydroiz and ize, wheat,
Speaker 2: high food those corn syrup, processed sugar and flour, all
Speaker 2: these things and inter als the floor of the stores
Speaker 2: and also too gary. I mean bad fats, right, bad
Speaker 2: fats are I think bad fats are literally the call okay.
Speaker 1: Please for me define bad fats because I know if
Speaker 1: some fats are important, they're they're vital. What are what
Speaker 1: are bad fats?
Speaker 2: So so bad fats to me? Are you know all
Speaker 2: your seed oils, Crisco vegetable oil, all the seed oils
Speaker 2: that are out there, those are bad fats. They're they're
Speaker 2: horrible for you. They're in all the processed foods and
Speaker 2: and uh you know, so basically when we talk about
Speaker 2: processed foods, anything that's in in inner aisles. If you
Speaker 2: look at the ingredients on the inter ol products that
Speaker 2: are all in the inner house, the source, it's all
Speaker 2: got the bad fats of it.
Speaker 1: What about what about tim what about canola oil? For example,
Speaker 1: can oil is horrible.
Speaker 2: It's a vegetable oil. So it's so we're talking about
Speaker 2: good fats or avocado olive oil. You know outside of that,
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of grain.
Speaker 1: That's more expensive to buy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it is a little more expensive, but you
Speaker 2: know what when you know, let's talk about that too.
Speaker 2: You know, meat consumption, right, so everybody's eating meat breakfast, lunch,
Speaker 2: and dinner. It's inflammatory. People aren't getting good meats. It's
Speaker 2: not back like the old days, Gary, where you've got
Speaker 2: your meat from your farmer, you split a cow or
Speaker 2: a pig with a neighbor of yours. And you know,
Speaker 2: people are going to blockbuster stores buying all this process
Speaker 2: big egg meat that's all full of antibiotics and steroids
Speaker 2: and everything else that you can make who knows what
Speaker 2: it is. Then you're throw it on a grill. You
Speaker 2: got the carcinogens. It's it's horrible to put meat in
Speaker 2: your body three times a day. We don't need meat
Speaker 2: consumption that much. It's inflammatory and guess what it causes?
Speaker 2: An inter CELLULLPROD fat in yourself causes in resistance, which
Speaker 2: causes diabetes. Now, I you know, trust me, we live
Speaker 2: you know, our first center was an East Tennessee. You
Speaker 2: tell East Tennessee, uh, you know that they're not gonna
Speaker 2: ever meet eat meat again. They're like, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: going to walk out right now. I'll never come back
Speaker 2: and see you.
Speaker 1: That would that would be me, Jim. I would be
Speaker 1: walking out right right now if I said I could
Speaker 1: never eat meat again.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And and and we say, look, we're not telling
Speaker 2: you don't eat meat, but eat meat from a source.
Speaker 2: You know, you're you're where you're getting it from. Get
Speaker 2: your fat sources, from good fat sources. Because I'm gonna
Speaker 2: tell you right now. Mexican, you look at the Mexican
Speaker 2: population of black population, right they're riddle of diabetes. And
Speaker 2: people go, why is that? Why are those two populations
Speaker 2: riddle of diabetes? Because they have they cook with the
Speaker 2: most unhealthiest fats. Their food tastes great. Don't get me wrong,
Speaker 2: I love I love a good Mexican mill or soul
Speaker 2: food meal. But they're cooking with the most unhealthy fats,
Speaker 2: which is causing in resists in their body, which causes
Speaker 2: their diabetes. And and this is the problem. Gary. No
Speaker 2: one has been you know, no one's being educated. And
Speaker 2: even with the Maha movie you took. I love our junior,
Speaker 2: love what he's trying to do. But the last thing
Speaker 2: he just says, like, hey, what's hey, let's do some
Speaker 2: cooking classes. And I'm like, okay, I mean that's great,
Speaker 2: but cooking classes is like one of the keys of
Speaker 2: a piano of eighty eight keys, right, there's there's eighty
Speaker 2: there's eighty seven more keys on a piano. We got
Speaker 2: to do so much more than just talking about cooking classes.
Speaker 2: I mean, if we can teach you lot to cook
Speaker 2: healthy are great, but we got to make better choices
Speaker 2: of what we're cooking. And it really comes down the
Speaker 2: airy is functional education of what diabetes really is.
Speaker 1: All Right, So I knew that I had a problem
Speaker 1: a long time ago, but I was one of those
Speaker 1: guys who just never went to the doctor. And then
Speaker 1: I had an incidence with my hypertension, which I also suffered,
Speaker 1: and I am on medication for UH, and thought I
Speaker 1: was having a heart attack and went to the emergency
Speaker 1: room and that's when I find out that I've got
Speaker 1: this skyrocketing a one. See that my blood sugar is
Speaker 1: out of control, and no wonder, UH, are there any
Speaker 1: good sugars.
Speaker 2: You know, Gary, So let's talk about what happened to you.
Speaker 2: You know, you know why you have eye blood pressure
Speaker 2: because you have instant resistance. You know why you have
Speaker 2: diabetes because you have instant resistance. You know why you
Speaker 2: have cholesterol imfloor resistance. It's all in through resistance. You
Speaker 2: have to learn and educate yourself on what insto resistance is,
Speaker 2: and and and and talk about sugars. What are good
Speaker 2: bad sugars? So you know processed sugar. Okay, So the
Speaker 2: granulized white sugar that everybody loves that's in everything, by
Speaker 2: the way, is let's call it chemical poison. It's refined
Speaker 2: so much. If you took if you take the original sugar, right,
Speaker 2: and if I.
Speaker 1: Took I took a stock of sugar cane, yes, and
Speaker 1: and raw sugar and consume that that wouldn't hurt me necessarily,
Speaker 1: I mean everything. Yeah, okay, yeah, you out.
Speaker 2: But the thing is, Gary, that the sugar cane is
Speaker 2: a fibrous, chewy, hard stock. Right. But then they take
Speaker 2: that and they refine it down and refine it down
Speaker 2: or find it down or find it out, and now
Speaker 2: we've got processed sugar. It's more addicting than cocaine. It's
Speaker 2: scientifically more addicted than cocaine. It's in everything. And I
Speaker 2: heard your segment before we came on about the rum
Speaker 2: and cokes. There's nothing worse that you could have been
Speaker 2: drinking in your life.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, Jack Daniels and coke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what's yeah, same thing.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you about this. What about all of
Speaker 1: these zero sugar products that have been introduced in the
Speaker 1: sun date to Mott, They're worse, worse.
Speaker 2: You might as well be drinking the regular coke. Really, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's worse because the thing is is that now you
Speaker 2: trick your body into something that you think is healthy,
Speaker 2: but guess what, it breaks it down the same way
Speaker 2: as still breaks down the sugar that your body. You know,
Speaker 2: Timothy recognized, the sugar gets broken back down into sugar.
Speaker 2: So we're you know, we're tricking ourselves thinking we're doing
Speaker 2: something healthy. It's not like we tell people die coo,
Speaker 2: you know, we you know, we deal with this all
Speaker 2: the time. Gary hydrate, hydrate, hydrate, water water water And
Speaker 2: they're like, well, I drink Mountain doing sweet tea. Well
Speaker 2: that's not that's not water. Well sweet tea has water
Speaker 2: in it. Well, guess what you know you also have
Speaker 2: two cups of sugar and gall and sweet tea. This
Speaker 2: is this is affecting and resistance. We we we have
Speaker 2: this argument all the time with patients, you know, and
Speaker 2: that's the thing. So you know, Gary, if I can
Speaker 2: give you the magic wand right, so we do a
Speaker 2: DIVEES education, right, So we're we're DIVINGES focused. But there's
Speaker 2: four things that every diabet should do. They should stay
Speaker 2: away from processed foods. Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. And when I
Speaker 2: say hydrate, I'm talking if you're a two hundred pound
Speaker 2: man or woman or woman, you should drink one hundred
Speaker 2: ounces of water a day.
Speaker 1: One hundred ounces of water a day.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and half your body weighting ounces of water
Speaker 2: a day is a recommended dose. Fiber. No one eats fiber.
Speaker 2: You you should be eating close to five five to
Speaker 2: ten grams of fiber a day.
Speaker 1: Well, what fiber day you suggest, Tim?
Speaker 2: Well, all fiber comes from natural fruits and vegetables. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you eat a lot of fruits and vegetables, you're
Speaker 2: gonna get your natural fiber now.
Speaker 1: And the sugars in those natural fruits and vegetables are
Speaker 1: okay for you.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's the that's the that's the biggest lie in
Speaker 2: the planet. That carbs and fruit and vegetables are carbs. No,
Speaker 2: they're not. They're good carbs. So you got you got
Speaker 2: the difference between fruit toolts and sugar fruit tailts that
Speaker 2: comes from the fruit is recognized by your body in
Speaker 2: a healthy way. It actually regulates over time in a
Speaker 2: healthy way. And and same playing with vegetables, vegetables that
Speaker 2: have carbs and them they're healthy carves, they're fast acting carbs.
Speaker 2: They're they're not dense carves that we're eating from anything
Speaker 2: white process flour, processed sugar, right, and all those things
Speaker 2: from carved from that are dense carbs that we're eating.
Speaker 2: It's it's terrible for your health. We don't. We don't.
Speaker 2: Our body does not metabolize it well and it clogs
Speaker 2: up the cells. Like I said, with inter cellu lipid fat,
Speaker 2: which is where the source of infant resistance comes from.
Speaker 1: What kind of bread is good for you?
Speaker 2: If any so they ezekiel bread or sprouted bread is
Speaker 2: the bread people should be eating if they want to
Speaker 2: eat bread, and you know what, it tastes great gary.
Speaker 1: Give me an example give me an example of sprouted
Speaker 1: bread or a zecyl bread.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you get you know, any whole food store,
Speaker 2: any grocer store has it there most time in the freezer,
Speaker 2: all because you know, guess whe they don't have the
Speaker 2: preservices and the bread that you know, they actually got
Speaker 2: to freeze. And it's there's all kinds of brands out there,
Speaker 2: but they're sprout of bread. Basically. It takes the sprout
Speaker 2: of the wheat and they make the bread from there.
Speaker 2: Not the hyperis and ied wheat, which is a double
Speaker 2: eel of the wheat, and it's it's very low and
Speaker 2: carb it's very it's less dense, and so it's it's
Speaker 2: and you know what I mean, once you get used
Speaker 2: from the breadt take. I love raisin bread, right, so
Speaker 2: I get a zekio bread from the store called it
Speaker 2: sprout of the zeco bread right from the frozen section,
Speaker 2: and it's it's great.
Speaker 1: Is there any kind of pasta that you can eat?
Speaker 2: So any any pasta right like brown like rice? Okay,
Speaker 2: so brown rice, you know, metabolizes a lot slower. It
Speaker 2: is a great rice for you. Bread uh are pasta
Speaker 2: same thing. Your wheat pastas are are your plant based
Speaker 2: pastas that are made from you know, any kind of
Speaker 2: plant based origin. There's a lot of them out there now.
Speaker 2: Once again tastes great. They don't taste any different than
Speaker 2: than apasta you're eating, uh, couliflower pasta. You know, there's
Speaker 2: so many, so many brands out there now that are
Speaker 2: a healthy option. But the enriched white pasta made from
Speaker 2: you know, uh process flour terrible?
Speaker 1: What about say you? I know alcohol is never good
Speaker 1: for you in large amounts especially, and they're all.
Speaker 2: Very very here because I love alcohol.
Speaker 1: But all right, so, uh what about wine as an
Speaker 1: alternative to say, uh, distilled spirits or beer?
Speaker 2: Okay, so wine has a lot of sugar, so we
Speaker 2: tell people there want to drink it's anything clear. So
Speaker 2: Vodker tequila is a good source wine? Weld it was
Speaker 2: sugar gary.
Speaker 1: Okay. Well I'm not a whino, so, like I said,
Speaker 1: I tend to be more on the sour mass side.
Speaker 1: But I do enjoy a good vodka from time to time.
Speaker 1: And you say I mock in tequila. I think is
Speaker 1: if you're going to drinking, to drink all right? All right,
Speaker 1: well listen, where can people find out more?
Speaker 2: You got a website ten Yeah, so usdiabetescare dot com.
Speaker 2: Again usdibescare dot com. We have a learn more tab
Speaker 2: on there. You can get the app from the website,
Speaker 2: which is an educational app for diabetes. We also are
Speaker 2: on Apple and Android the App Store US diabyes Care Education.
Speaker 2: You can download the app from there as well.
Speaker 1: Jim, very informative. I appreciate it. I hope I can
Speaker 1: follow at least some of your advice so I can
Speaker 1: be healthier. The one thing I have in my favor
Speaker 1: is that I'm not obese. I'm not overweight, and that's
Speaker 1: a big problem too. All of these things contribute to obesity.
Speaker 2: Correct, well, there's a lot of OBC factors that contribute
Speaker 2: to diabetes. But you know, but you know what, Gary,
Speaker 2: we've scientifically have foun out in the last you know,
Speaker 2: fifteen years of obese. This isn't the only cause. I mean,
Speaker 2: we got even children out there that aren't opees that
Speaker 2: are diabetic. His resistance isn't a weight isn't a weight issue.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a systematic of what you're putting into
Speaker 2: your body. All right, so well, but but but but
Speaker 2: trust me, you're right, you know obesit does play a factor.
Speaker 1: All right, Tim Keller, thank you so much. This is
Speaker 1: great information for me and I hope somebody else listening
Speaker 1: got something from this conversation. It is a Sunday Night
Speaker 1: Live with Gary Jeff Walker in for Mike Allen Jr.
Speaker 1: And up next thing in Rosenbaum on the explosion of
Speaker 1: anti Semitism not just on campuses, but seemingly everywhere. It
Speaker 1: is Sunday Night Live, Garry Jeff Walker in for Mike
Speaker 1: Allen Junior. This Sunday evening went a pleasure to be
Speaker 1: with You. Didn't know if we were actually gonna get here, Hm.
Speaker 1: But just today you may have heard in the news
Speaker 1: the FBI investigating a targeted terror attack after several people
Speaker 1: were injured Sunday today when a suspect threw an explosive
Speaker 1: device at a pro Israel rally in Boulder, Colorado. Witnesses
Speaker 1: described a Molotov cocktail like object striking protesters demanding Gaza
Speaker 1: hostage releases. Several injured, and again the FBI cash Hotel
Speaker 1: calling this a targeted terror attack. We are aware of
Speaker 1: and fully investigating a targeted terror attack in Boulder, Colorado.
Speaker 1: According to Cash Betel, on x local media signed eyewitnesses
Speaker 1: describing a man throwing something resembling a homemade Molotov cocktail
Speaker 1: of a group calling for the release of Israeli hostages
Speaker 1: held in Gaza. It's just another one of those stories
Speaker 1: that are becoming more and more prevalent, sadly in this
Speaker 1: country where people don't understand who the bad guys actually are.
Speaker 1: The bad guys are not Jews, They're not Israelis, They're Hamas.
Speaker 1: They're the ones that committed the atrocity and the bloodbath.
Speaker 1: On October seventh, going on how many months are we
Speaker 1: into this now? And took all these hostages Americans included
Speaker 1: among them. We had two people murdered outside of a
Speaker 1: Jewish museum in Washington, DC. Anti Semitism is a real
Speaker 1: threat not just to Jews, but to the Western way
Speaker 1: of life. And I say to all Americans to talk
Speaker 1: about this is a CBS News legal analyst who has
Speaker 1: studied anti Semitism and what's going on in their college campuses.
Speaker 1: The global Intifada that has been declared and is being
Speaker 1: espoused by these many varied groups who want it basically
Speaker 1: not only cause and call for the destruction of Israel
Speaker 1: the death of all Jews and ultimately the destruction of
Speaker 1: Western culture. His name is Thane Rosenbaum, and he joins
Speaker 1: us now. Thank good evening, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Thanks Gerry, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: So you say that the rhetoric on college campuses we've
Speaker 1: seen run rampid over the last couple of years, Columbia
Speaker 1: at Harvard and many, many other of these college campuses
Speaker 1: is responsible for the murders of the two young beautiful
Speaker 1: people in Washington, d C. A couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Tell me why you say that's true.
Speaker 3: Well, Gary, it's really only in support of Palestinian rights
Speaker 3: that you see violence all around the world. This is
Speaker 3: new to the United States. But if we lived in
Speaker 3: London or Paris, or Madrid or Stockholm or any of
Speaker 3: the other major capitals throughout Europe where you've had in
Speaker 3: the Islamisation of the continent, you'd see you know, remember
Speaker 3: the cartoonists in Denmark and in France that were murdered.
Speaker 3: I remember, you know that this is this is not new.
Speaker 3: You know, in France they've lost are fifty thousand Jews
Speaker 3: have moved to Israel because it's become unbearable. So you know,
Speaker 3: This is not new. It's only with respect to Islam.
Speaker 3: To phrases like death to America, there's no there's no
Speaker 3: other people on earth that screamed death to America, death
Speaker 3: to the Pope, death to British. You know, Danish cartoonists,
Speaker 3: death to French cartoonists. There's only one group of people
Speaker 3: that's screamed. You get forty thousand people to scream, and
Speaker 3: now we see it on campuses. You have people who
Speaker 3: come from Arab and Middle East and Islamic societies that
Speaker 3: have imported their level of violence, not just to places
Speaker 3: like Dearborn, Michigan, where there's a large percentage of the Islamists,
Speaker 3: but all throughout the campuses that have been indoctrinated. So
Speaker 3: if you if you scream Gary genocide all the time
Speaker 3: in campus is if you scream globalizing into pada, global
Speaker 3: lies into Pada, says well, the antapada means the killing
Speaker 3: of Jews in Israel. Oh I see, So if you
Speaker 3: globalize it, you can kill them outside of a museum
Speaker 3: in Washington, d C. Or Or you could kill them
Speaker 3: at a rally inside and Boulder globalizing into fada. So
Speaker 3: you know these are not just slogans they're marching orders,
Speaker 3: they're you know, terror requests, and we're seeing it being
Speaker 3: acted upon.
Speaker 1: You did not see the the IDF or a group
Speaker 1: of Jews going into the Gaza strip and cutting off
Speaker 1: the heads of innocent civilians. You did not see them
Speaker 1: kidnapping them and holding them hostage. You do not hear
Speaker 1: Jews anywhere in the world calling for the death of
Speaker 1: people who call themselves Palestinians. And now I have a
Speaker 1: really really hard time with even the term Palestinian. It's
Speaker 1: kind of a it's kind of a made up construct
Speaker 1: as far as I understand.
Speaker 3: Historically, well, Garrett, there's never been a Palestinian nation. No,
Speaker 3: there's never been. There's never been, for five minutes, a
Speaker 3: country with a government, with a currency, with a flag
Speaker 3: that has been a Palestinian homeland with uge talk about
Speaker 3: with a language. Yes, when you talk about stealing land,
Speaker 3: what land? Uh, The land has always it started out
Speaker 3: as the king Kingdom of Judah Judea under King David
Speaker 3: and King Solomon. We know that from the Old Testament
Speaker 3: and hid it and and by the time the Greeks
Speaker 3: and the Romans at that point, that part of the
Speaker 3: world had always been occupied. Guess what until Israel reclaimed it.
Speaker 3: So it went from the Jews the ancestral homeland of
Speaker 3: the Jews until the return of the ancestral homeland of
Speaker 3: the Jewy.
Speaker 1: And they talk about that. They talk talk about the
Speaker 1: settlements in the West as being occupied by Jews. Well,
Speaker 1: it's always been occupied by Jews. And I will tell
Speaker 1: you I think that the Israeli government and the Jewish people
Speaker 1: have been very welcoming of the Arabs who were sent
Speaker 1: there as refugees back in the nineteen sixties by the
Speaker 1: other Arab countries who did not want them in their country, Jordan, Syria.
Speaker 1: It's been a complete rewriting of history that has made
Speaker 1: up this false narrative that there is a Palestinian homeland
Speaker 1: in Israel.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, let's talk about Gaza. And you know,
Speaker 3: I have a new book out Beyond Proportionality, Israel's Just
Speaker 3: War and Gozo, which debunks all of the talk of
Speaker 3: genocide and Palestinian statehood and the five rejected offers of
Speaker 3: a homeland to the Palestinians. They keep rejecting it because
Speaker 3: they really don't want to share the land with Jews.
Speaker 3: They want what their charter says, Both Hamas and the
Speaker 3: PLO dead Jews. They're interested. That's what's from the river
Speaker 3: to the sea means yep, Palestine will be flee. It
Speaker 3: means they'll be without Jews. So you know Israel, twenty
Speaker 3: percent of Israel is made up of Arabs, and they
Speaker 3: have full civil and political rights. They serve on the
Speaker 3: Supreme Court, they serve in the legislature. They are entitled
Speaker 3: to all the rights and privileges of Israelis. But the
Speaker 3: Palestinians have said if they ever have a homeland, not
Speaker 3: a single Jew could live there. So you're talking about,
Speaker 3: as you pointed out, people who six thousand people invaded
Speaker 3: Israel on October seventh. People. Forget four thousand were Hamas,
Speaker 3: two thousand were civilians. So that means civilians were involved
Speaker 3: in gang raping teenagers who were just at a rock concert.
Speaker 3: This is the part that's so demented.
Speaker 2: Gary.
Speaker 1: They were involved in They were involved in raping women,
Speaker 1: then beheading those, cutting babies out of women's stomachs. These
Speaker 1: atrocities are unmatched in modern history.
Speaker 3: Thing and the Nazis didn't do anything like this. The
Speaker 3: Nazis would be would be horrified. You would you were
Speaker 3: cutting off the breasts of women who only a barbarian
Speaker 3: does that. That's the Nazis would blanche and say, we
Speaker 3: who does stuff like this? But besides which, Gary, you know,
Speaker 3: if you this is how twisted things are and how
Speaker 3: anti semitic this issue is, because why would students on
Speaker 3: campus be cheering for terrorists who invaded a rock concert
Speaker 3: with kids that had nose rings and tattoos. These were
Speaker 3: not religious Jews. They weren't religious. They were on a Saturday,
Speaker 3: were at a rock concert, so you would think the
Speaker 3: opposite would happen. You gang raped girls in front of
Speaker 3: their boyfriends. You beheaded people, you you torched babies, You
Speaker 3: put babies into ovens, And when you're cheering that on,
Speaker 3: you should have been saying, these were people just like us.
Speaker 3: They went to a rock concert, and look how things
Speaker 3: ended up. We should all fly down to North Egypt,
Speaker 3: go up to the border with Gaza and demand the
Speaker 3: return of the hostages. Instead, everything got twisted, and the
Speaker 3: posters of babies and children and people who were kidnapped
Speaker 3: got torn down, and on October eighth, all of a
Speaker 3: sudden it became Israel's fault.
Speaker 1: Let's have some clarity here too, thing because many of
Speaker 1: the anti jew protesters, the anti Semitic protesters, are claiming
Speaker 1: that they're protests on American campuses, that vandalism and violence
Speaker 1: and the intimidation of Jewish students on campuus is a
Speaker 1: protected First Amendment right. There is nothing constitutionally protected. This
Speaker 1: is not constitutionally constitutionally protected freedom of speech.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, as you know, I'm leading analysts by trade,
Speaker 3: I'm also a law professor, and and I've written a
Speaker 3: book on the First Amendment on top of that, right,
Speaker 3: let me let so on. So you're actually talking to
Speaker 3: someone who actually knows what he's saying. So this is
Speaker 3: what's so crazy that even law professors are afraid to
Speaker 3: speak because they know that if I went on campus
Speaker 3: and said I'm opposed to racial preferences, I'm opposed to
Speaker 3: any and I'm not, but I'm saying, let's say I was,
Speaker 3: I'm opposed to any policy that prefers people of color.
Speaker 3: And the way I choose to express the view is
Speaker 3: to scream lynch blacks, lynch blacks, lynch blacks. I would
Speaker 3: be shot in ten minutes. I should be suspended from school,
Speaker 3: I should be you know, any you.
Speaker 1: Should be under you should be under investigation by the
Speaker 1: FBI and the.
Speaker 3: Lynch Lynch Blacks, Lynch Block. Could you imagine that's exactly
Speaker 3: what you're telling people. Now you're saying no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: They don't mean that. They just say globalized into fada
Speaker 3: because they want to support Palestinians and they're objecting to
Speaker 3: Israeli's policies. And I said, are you kidding me? You
Speaker 3: mean I could say Lynch blacks and pretend that I'm
Speaker 3: actually interested in something else, because this is something that
Speaker 3: I latch onto a slogan from the river to the sea.
Speaker 3: So no, the Supreme Court presidents are very clear, language
Speaker 3: that constitutes a true threat under Virginia versus Black is
Speaker 3: not protected speech. Language that incites imminent lawlessness in mobs
Speaker 3: and crowds. That's Brandon Burg versus the United States, Brandon
Speaker 3: versus Fio. That's not protected speech. And words that are
Speaker 3: designed to get you to fight back, fighting words in
Speaker 3: New hamps Chepunsky versus Just Hampshire. These are all three
Speaker 3: Supreme Court cases. They're all valid law. Supreme Court President
Speaker 3: in which it's very clear that there is no First
Speaker 3: Amendment safeguards for people that engage in intimidating threats, fighting words,
Speaker 3: or incitement and imminent lawlessness. And yet you have people
Speaker 3: with a straight face on campus saying you can't stop
Speaker 3: me because I have a First Amendment right to say
Speaker 3: whatever I want.
Speaker 1: How many people in the Queers for Palestine movement would
Speaker 1: be welcome in an Islamist country? And how long do
Speaker 1: you think they would last? Thing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just again, what is this?
Speaker 1: Gary?
Speaker 3: Is this pure anti Semitism or pure ignorance?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Because you're Queers for Palestine? Do they not know that
Speaker 3: homosexuals are either strung up on cranes or thrown off
Speaker 3: of ruths? Do they not know that women are beheaded
Speaker 3: or dismembered if their husbands accuse them of jet of infidelity.
Speaker 3: All they have to do is be accused of it.
Speaker 3: In some of these countries, the beheadings are automatic under
Speaker 3: Sharia law if there's a If there's infidelity, women are
Speaker 3: las for sitting in a car with a man. Right,
Speaker 3: this is where feminists are really where the American feminists
Speaker 3: are latching on to Hamas in Israel, homosexuals, women they
Speaker 3: all go to rock concerts, right, they all? You know,
Speaker 3: can sit together. There is no apart height. Men and
Speaker 3: women hold hands, Women and women hold hands. The only
Speaker 3: place throughout the Middle East that is both a democracy
Speaker 3: and exercises. You know, pluralism is Israel. And yet you
Speaker 3: hear people chanting in support of barbarians again given the crimes.
Speaker 3: You know, I've always said, and I say this in
Speaker 3: this book, beyond proportionality Israel, just war in Gaza. The
Speaker 3: minute you heard the word beheadings, Gary, it should have
Speaker 3: been ballgames, right, she does? What?
Speaker 2: What did you just say?
Speaker 3: This is the twenty first century? Who's beheading beever?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: You're throwing babies into ovens? What? What are you kidding?
Speaker 1: What do you think, sane? What do you think about
Speaker 1: the moves by the Trump administration to remove these foreign
Speaker 1: student students on foreign visas that are foamating this hate,
Speaker 1: that are preaching this violence and exacting this violence in
Speaker 1: our country, that actually don't want to assimilate or enjoy
Speaker 1: the freedoms of this country, but want to subjugate other
Speaker 1: people and want to again import their hate onto American soil.
Speaker 1: You know, I just hope that these universities are listening
Speaker 1: loud and that President trumpet and the and the DOJ
Speaker 1: has got their attention now and they will understand as
Speaker 1: these court fights continue how wrong minded they have been
Speaker 1: and misrepresenting this as freedom of speech.
Speaker 3: Well. Also, Gary, you know, I think Marco Route, the
Speaker 3: Secutary of States, has his points is and when he says,
Speaker 3: why are you here? Are you here to study or
Speaker 3: to agitate antagonism to break down civil discourse and social
Speaker 3: cohesion in the United States, spread anti semitism, mess with
Speaker 3: everyone's head. Are you here to study or are you're
Speaker 3: here to protest?
Speaker 2: Because you're here to.
Speaker 3: Protest, why are you here? You've just taken away a
Speaker 3: spot from an American student. We let you in largely
Speaker 3: for diversity reasons and because you're willing to pay the
Speaker 3: full ride, and we don't normally ask Americans to pay
Speaker 3: the full ride, so we gave you this privilege. And
Speaker 3: instead of studying during form finals exams, you are setting
Speaker 3: up encampments and spreading anti Semitism and spreading lies about
Speaker 3: Israel and the United States. You are taking the kethia
Speaker 3: and the Palestinian flag, whatever that means, and draping it
Speaker 3: over a statue of George Washington George Washington University. When
Speaker 3: that happened. I thought, isn't that ballgame? Americans are okay
Speaker 3: with this. They're painting on the face of George Washington
Speaker 3: and putting a kafia around him in a Palestinian flag. Right,
Speaker 3: you're burning flags in Dearborn, Michigan. This is this what
Speaker 3: we're seeing now in the United States, certainly on campus,
Speaker 3: but even in some cities. Patterson, New Jersey and Dearborn,
Speaker 3: Michigan is very familiar to Europeans. From two thousand and
Speaker 3: five on. There's an enormous around of buyer's remorse because
Speaker 3: there is no interest in assimilation. There's no interest in
Speaker 3: buying into liberal democracy. The interest is spreading the Caliphate.
Speaker 1: I will tell you, Sane Rosenbaum, that I have hope.
Speaker 1: I believe that in cash Bettel, in Christy, Nome, and
Speaker 1: in Pambondy, and in President Trump, there's a new sheriff
Speaker 1: in town. And I think you're right, Eric, they are
Speaker 1: paying attention, Sane Rosenbaum. What's the name of the book again, Sane?
Speaker 3: Beyond proportionality, Israel's just war in Gaza. If you have
Speaker 3: a cousin or a student or a friend who has
Speaker 3: very stupid, simplistic view of what's going on in Gaza.
Speaker 3: This is a book for you. It explains everything. It
Speaker 3: even talks about culture, movies, history, anecdotes about World War Two.
Speaker 3: Nobody said that the dropping of two atomic bombs in
Speaker 3: Japan was genocide. Not one student was marching in favor
Speaker 3: of that. We see self defense all the time, Gary,
Speaker 3: and it's never been genocided. If this is genocide, then
Speaker 3: genocide is COVID. Genocide is anytime anyone dies for any reason.
Speaker 3: That's what they're really saying. Do you kill people it's
Speaker 3: a genocide, and that it's a lie, it's a distortion,
Speaker 3: and guess what, it's an insult to people who did
Speaker 3: suffer genocide.
Speaker 1: Indeed, thank you so much for your time, Thane, Thank you, Gary.
Speaker 1: You bet we will switch gears lighting up a little bit.
Speaker 1: My friend Greg Jones is scheduled to join us in studio.
Speaker 1: Greg Jones is a Nashville songwriter. He's a friend of mine,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about the music business a little bit
Speaker 1: and anything else that comes to mind. And take your
Speaker 1: calls if you're feeling frisky. It's Sunday Night Live, Gary
Speaker 1: Jeff and for Mike Allen Junior tonight on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: It's a special edition of Sunday Night Live. Gary Jeff
Speaker 1: Walker in for Mike Allen Jr. And joining me in
Speaker 1: this half hour is another JJ, Greg Jones, a buddy
Speaker 1: that I met. He was he We ought to tell
Speaker 1: the story of how we first met Greg. Let's do so.
Speaker 2: Greg.
Speaker 1: Greg is part time in Smyrna, Tennessee, Middle Tennessee, Nashville area,
Speaker 1: and part of the time here with his girlfriend Victoria,
Speaker 1: and he was in town. Came into Huddles where I'm bartending,
Speaker 1: and I said, hey, man, mate, what's your name, Greg Jones?
Speaker 1: What do you do? He said, well, I mean, among
Speaker 1: other things, I'm a Nashville songwriter. I said, oh cool.
Speaker 1: You where you live? He said, well, I go back
Speaker 1: and forth between here and I got a home in Smyrna, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: I said, Smyrna, Tennessee. I got a brother who works
Speaker 1: at a bar as a cook and a bartender and Smyrna,
Speaker 1: Tennessee at a place called Chappies. He goes Chappies, that's
Speaker 1: my bar. And I said, do you know Johnny? He said,
Speaker 1: Johnny's your brother. I said, yeah, Johnny's my brother. And
Speaker 1: we'd never met, never laid eyes on each other until
Speaker 1: that day. Serendipitous. Yeah yeah, I think. I think it's
Speaker 1: a god thing. But anyway, brought us together and we've
Speaker 1: been buddies ever since. And I said, you know what
Speaker 1: you want to come in. I'm doing this show on
Speaker 1: Sunday night. Let's talk a little bit about the music
Speaker 1: business in your career and what you've been into. And
Speaker 1: uh so, here we are. Thank you.
Speaker 4: I'm certainly into what you're doing. I'd love your show.
Speaker 4: You're a talk radio fanatic.
Speaker 1: I absolutely am.
Speaker 4: I'm a junkie maybe a little too much, but I
Speaker 4: love my talk radio.
Speaker 1: He came into the bar the other day and was
Speaker 1: doing his Clay Travis impression from Clay Travis and the
Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 4: Well, Buck, Buck, listen, Buck, correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 4: you would know better than Ibuck. However, however, funny having
Speaker 4: said that, he just feels a love.
Speaker 1: Were you a fan of Rush Limbaugh?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Huge, Yeah. Rush Limbaugh is the reason that I wanted
Speaker 1: to get into talk radio. I was doing music radio
Speaker 1: was about seven eight years in a nineteen eighty seven
Speaker 1: or so, and I went out for lunch one day.
Speaker 1: I was at the station, went out for lunch, turned
Speaker 1: out and I had a car that only had an
Speaker 1: AM radio. I'm on an FM radio station, but I've
Speaker 1: got a car that's only got AM and I'm tuning
Speaker 1: in the local station there in Nashville, and I hear
Speaker 1: Rush Limbaugh for the first time. I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: that's really what I want to do. The music thing
Speaker 1: kind of bores me, and so that gave me kind
Speaker 1: of a template. Rush was my inspiration to eventually do
Speaker 1: talk radio, and I was lucky and blessed enough to
Speaker 1: get to do it when I started here at seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW ten years later in nineteen ninety seven. Today
Speaker 1: is special for me, Greg because today is officially my
Speaker 1: forty fifth anniversary in doing professional radio. I started June first,
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty at a little station in Gallatin, Tennessee. They're
Speaker 1: in Middle Tennessee area. We both lived there, and so
Speaker 1: either it's and you say forty five years, one of
Speaker 1: three things comes to mind, Well, you're really old. That's
Speaker 1: probably close to the truth. They haven't figured out that
Speaker 1: you have no talent yet, or you are a glutton
Speaker 1: for punishment. And I think all three things could be true.
Speaker 4: I can tell you, Yeah, bridging that gap with music
Speaker 4: and talk radio, all of it, you know, just loving radio.
Speaker 4: Rush lim Ball taking me back to a kid. He
Speaker 4: was our announcer for the Royals. I'm a baseball finactic too.
Speaker 4: You lived in Kansas City and the city from the first,
Speaker 4: you know, twelve years of life. And then we moved
Speaker 4: to Cincinnati in the Milford area and I graduated Milford
Speaker 4: High School. But Rush lim Ball was our sports announcer
Speaker 4: prior to eighty seven at the Royals. Royals absolutely so
Speaker 4: every night. You know, before he was the national EIB.
Speaker 1: Broadcasting Excellence and I still in broadcasting in the golden microphone. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And his voice, you know, he just had the voice. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And so he's real big in those parts. Obviously he
Speaker 4: started having gotten his start, I guess, so to speak
Speaker 4: there and like kind of like you're from from Gollaton, Tennessee,
Speaker 4: and I think that stace is probably still on.
Speaker 1: Oh w h I n is still there. I wasn't
Speaker 1: able to kill it myself with my lack of talent.
Speaker 1: I didn't drive listeners away and droves like maybe maybe
Speaker 1: I'm maybe I'm doing it tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We talk about songs all the time. Sometimes we do.
Speaker 1: You have written some hit country songs and you're still
Speaker 1: working on it and you're doing it. I Danny, Danny
Speaker 1: has uh, our producer Danny Gleeson has a song that
Speaker 1: you wrote or co wrote that's on on an album
Speaker 1: by Cody Jenks. It was a single release. Maybe it
Speaker 1: may be Goalie Gold at some point, you know, fingers
Speaker 1: are crossing the toes to it's uh.
Speaker 4: He's he's getting a lot of gold records and platinum records.
Speaker 4: He's he's had a phenomenal, phenomenal career and he's still
Speaker 4: going strong, getting stronger.
Speaker 1: The song we have is the same kind of crazy
Speaker 1: as me. And in the the show Landman too that
Speaker 1: people may be familiar with, what's that called shure did Man?
Speaker 4: It's called another Bad Apple And I wrote that with
Speaker 4: Ward Davis and Clinton Park and man Lucky Enough. Taylor
Speaker 4: shared in The Wonderful Talented Producer Yellowstone that was his
Speaker 4: new baby and rememor has it that he's a War
Speaker 4: Davis fan and Cody Jeans fan and those what those
Speaker 4: guys are doing, and just kind of kind of was
Speaker 4: a fan first sometimes.
Speaker 1: Again, tell me what it's like traveling around the country
Speaker 1: with a major artist or a signed artist. Man, it's
Speaker 1: like anything else.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's really cool to see this country in
Speaker 4: the way that we were able to do that coast
Speaker 4: to coast and border to border and see this great country.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. Man.
Speaker 4: It's got its pitfalls and stuff too, but in stains.
Speaker 4: But it's a really beautiful country. And I couldn't ever
Speaker 4: have a chance to do it in six or seven
Speaker 4: years of touring. And we toured a lot, but I've
Speaker 4: been to every major city four or five times and
Speaker 4: been to the border.
Speaker 1: And in fact, that's where that songe was cut out,
Speaker 1: the border at the Mexican border.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Adobe Sessions where Cody cuts all his records.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, So tell me what the songwriting business is like.
Speaker 1: How much has it changed since you've been involved with it.
Speaker 1: How did you get involved in the first place.
Speaker 4: Involved in the first place just living here in the
Speaker 4: Cincinnati area. What a rock and roll town, and you know,
Speaker 4: being in bands and around school and stuff. And I
Speaker 4: knew that I I uh, pretty quickly. I wanted to
Speaker 4: get to Nashville, and the only way to do that
Speaker 4: was kind of get my grades up and uh, get
Speaker 4: down there and go to college.
Speaker 1: Get your grades up.
Speaker 4: Well, I wash'd where'd you go to the school?
Speaker 1: High school? You slid through it? What Milford? Hilford High School?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: The Eagles? Eagles?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 4: So then you went to college here I did. I
Speaker 4: had to get my grades good enough to get into Bellmont.
Speaker 4: Went to n KU one year, then transferred to Belmont
Speaker 4: the next year and met probably some of the best
Speaker 4: people that I've still working with today.
Speaker 1: Lucky enough, a.
Speaker 4: Very talented place, ended up staying around, raising a family
Speaker 4: and all that, bought a house there been there ever
Speaker 4: since then.
Speaker 1: Nashville's a tough town, very tough. There are still people
Speaker 1: that have aspirations to go to Nashville. Is it too
Speaker 1: late to maybe is it easier to find your way
Speaker 1: in the music business in Cincinnati and then getting asked
Speaker 1: to come to Nashville or should people just go to
Speaker 1: Nashville and try? And I think it's a little bit
Speaker 1: of both.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: I think there's something healthy and getting down there among them.
Speaker 4: Getting a normal job at Chili's or whatever.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 4: You can find something to do that you can work
Speaker 4: into the writing rooms and write with these better people.
Speaker 4: I always believe writing up and writing down meaning no disrespect,
Speaker 4: but right with people that are getting started to because
Speaker 4: you're getting started. And so a lot of years of
Speaker 4: writing with artists that were willing to give me a shot,
Speaker 4: you know, all right, So still kind of doing that
Speaker 4: formula today. I've never had a publishing deal. I've always
Speaker 4: kept my own bull just right.
Speaker 1: Like you're driving door dash during the day.
Speaker 4: Right, Hey, you know how you get a songwriter off
Speaker 4: the porch, pay him for the food for the pizza.
Speaker 4: So I hear so you still every time I've gotten
Speaker 4: a cut, and I got three cuts. Yesterday I found
Speaker 4: out good news with Ward Davis on his new album.
Speaker 4: He's coming to the south Gate House next month, War Davis,
Speaker 4: So uh, I've got a lot of cuts with him.
Speaker 1: He's my main songwriter. That is a very cool place,
Speaker 1: the south Gatehouse Revival.
Speaker 4: Marella Morella is our girl and she might be listening.
Speaker 4: We saw each other at breakfast as this is the
Speaker 4: other morning.
Speaker 1: Oh oh mom, we got we got somebody who says
Speaker 1: his nephew went to school with you. Should should we
Speaker 1: take the call? Are you afraid? No, not at all?
Speaker 1: Don Hello, don are you there?
Speaker 2: Yes, sir?
Speaker 1: So you're on the air with me? And with Greg.
Speaker 1: You say your nephew went to school with.
Speaker 3: Greg, Yes, over at Milford. Uh, his name was, uh,
Speaker 3: Scott Green.
Speaker 1: Oh hey, yeah, well that's Victoria. I just Scot.
Speaker 2: And I have a lot of respect from Nashville.
Speaker 1: And yeah, Scooters, Scooters.
Speaker 2: My name.
Speaker 1: Is Greg Jones, a reputable character. I want to know
Speaker 1: advanced too late to ask this question since I've already
Speaker 1: got him in the studio. Is is this is a
Speaker 1: good thing that I've got him in the studio done?
Speaker 1: That's what I want to know.
Speaker 3: Well, my nephew passed away last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we heard he was a great man, and I
Speaker 2: met him a few times and it kind of breaks
Speaker 2: my heart.
Speaker 4: Buddy, I wouldn't be sitting here. I can tell you
Speaker 4: that without Scott Green.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: When I met him, it was Rodney, and then it
Speaker 4: became Scott and then just Scooter, which is awesome. And
Speaker 4: uh he was my personal manager. I had an agent
Speaker 4: back then who managed like Ikey Woods and football players,
Speaker 4: and uh, when I was running around these parts playing
Speaker 4: clubs and casinos, and uh, he was my personal manager
Speaker 4: and best friends. It's seventh grade or so, one of
Speaker 4: my best friends. I've got a lot of them. We
Speaker 4: live in a good town and I'm sure miss him, man,
Speaker 4: I miss him every day, in fact his birthdays.
Speaker 1: His birthday's coming up this Tuesday. And so well, John,
Speaker 1: don take care, brother, take care, and thanks for calling.
Speaker 4: In love you guys. They're like family to meet. The
Speaker 4: Greens love all y'all. So when you played here in town?
Speaker 4: What kind of place do you play? The usual places?
Speaker 4: You know, it's been a rock town to me trying
Speaker 4: to be the country guy. You know, Garth Brooks was
Speaker 4: everything to me. I like his songwriters. I'm still got
Speaker 4: to be to know actually a couple of his songwriters,
Speaker 4: and I was just so enthralled in that. And so
Speaker 4: I put a country band together. We played the finish line,
Speaker 4: and we played the boulevard. I was a house bend
Speaker 4: there for a year or two, and all the you
Speaker 4: know west side of town, JJ. Some of these places
Speaker 4: aren't there anymore. They're called something else. But we did
Speaker 4: it all. And Casino as a place like that. You
Speaker 4: said you met Garth Brooks. You told me that you
Speaker 4: met Garth a couple of times. Certainly did, and you
Speaker 4: said it was a great experience. Both times that I
Speaker 4: that I met him were very memorable. I was interning
Speaker 4: when I was at my university at the Capitol Records,
Speaker 4: and so I was invited to some parties and stuff
Speaker 4: and got to meet him, and Scott actually came Scott Green.
Speaker 4: He made it to Nationale in about three and a
Speaker 4: half hours that day. So anyway, yes, it was a
Speaker 4: humbling experience. And then when you meet him again, he
Speaker 4: has this uncanny ability to remember you.
Speaker 1: And really not he knew your name. It's not fake
Speaker 1: at all. Remembered you know, the conversation and without circumstance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very cool, and I've heard that from more than one.
Speaker 1: Did you always want to do music? Yes? Yes, since
Speaker 1: four or five years old. Elvis was everything.
Speaker 4: And then yeah, Elvis was I used to make my
Speaker 4: aunt would flicker the lights and alextrobe lights and I'd
Speaker 4: do Elvis impersonations years old, you know, five six. So
Speaker 4: you say, you you just found out you got three
Speaker 4: cuts today? Yesterday I found out, Yes, and what a
Speaker 4: what a great day. That doesn't happen very often, but uh,
Speaker 4: one of my great friends, Ward Davis, great artists. He
Speaker 4: sold out the rhym and you know, I mean he's
Speaker 4: Red Rocks and I was just tour manager for longtime friend,
Speaker 4: longtime co writer. We have probably a couple of hundred
Speaker 4: songs together. But he just put out a new project
Speaker 4: and he uh, he's included three on there.
Speaker 1: So I'm very excited about. That's something very for and you,
Speaker 1: you and I are gonna maybe write some song. We
Speaker 1: already got a couple that were working on. We know
Speaker 1: that for sure.
Speaker 4: And I like what you do. I like your songs,
Speaker 4: so I can't wait to hear more your. I haven't
Speaker 4: found a way to monetize mine yet. You've you've got,
Speaker 4: I tell you you've got. You've got royalty checks coming
Speaker 4: in every quarter making music and the money does bud.
Speaker 1: That's uh.
Speaker 4: I think I've still got these young artists that that
Speaker 4: are cool enough to write when they give me a chance.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: And uh, some local guys that I respect a lot
Speaker 4: of Dallas Moore, you know, good friend Dallas is an
Speaker 4: incredible term of artist. There's another young artist here in town,
Speaker 4: lives in the Middletown area, west Ship. Uh, Huh, you're
Speaker 4: gonna hear a lot from him. He's gonna be playing
Speaker 4: at Southgate.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Sunny Sweeney, who's in radio. She's out of Texas. Sonny Sweeney,
Speaker 4: she's great, she's she's coming to south Gate House as well.
Speaker 4: So kind of a cool crew of touring artists that
Speaker 4: have they've kind of kind of hit the brays together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Marilla and the folks at south Gatehouse where if
Speaker 1: I will do fantastic stuff and it's a very unique destination,
Speaker 1: a great platform all kinds of artists. Six years when we.
Speaker 4: Finally sold it out. You know, it's a big thing,
Speaker 4: like a trophy or something that's cool. It's a it's
Speaker 4: an out of boy, it's everything that place.
Speaker 1: It's it's incredible that you could come up and spend
Speaker 1: a few minutes with me. I appreciate it. It's always
Speaker 1: great to see you. Well, thank you man.
Speaker 4: We'll see at the bar and then we'll definitely see
Speaker 4: each other in huddles and we'll solve the world's problems together.
Speaker 1: We do that. Well, I don't know if we've actually
Speaker 1: done that, no, but we've talked about it anyway, and
Speaker 1: well we haven't been able to tell you Aboudy. It all begins,
Speaker 1: you know, the left home was well, it all begins
Speaker 1: with a conversation. We need to have a conversation. We
Speaker 1: need to start a conversation. Greg dannyg Gleasa just said,
Speaker 1: with yuck in my ear, it's true, you know. But
Speaker 1: so anyway, it's a blessing to know you. And it's
Speaker 1: weird the way we came together, and you knew my
Speaker 1: little brother, and I've been hearing about you for a
Speaker 1: few years, you know.
Speaker 4: We he and I sheet pooled together, and that's my
Speaker 4: die bar there, and I got my dive bar here.
Speaker 1: So it worked out.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: It's just like I thought, it was fate, destiny, God
Speaker 4: work sending me to you, buddy, because I needed somebody
Speaker 4: here at the time that I was tracing my buddys footsteps.
Speaker 4: We talked about he got to come up in the conversation,
Speaker 4: so that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Don.
Speaker 1: Don brought up Scooter tonight. Oh yeah, you got a
Speaker 1: chance to kind of relive that final memory. And I
Speaker 1: got to tell you as we close tonight, this has
Speaker 1: been a wonderful, wonderful experience being with you on a
Speaker 1: Sunday night. I'll be back tomorrow morning at nine with
Speaker 1: Scott Sloane out and among other things, Corey Bowman, who's
Speaker 1: running from mayor of Cincinnati, will join us on the phone.
Speaker 1: Teddy Pierce, David Scarlett, John Lott from the Crime Research
Speaker 1: Prevention Center, Todd Sheets, and the great Dave Hatter of
Speaker 1: cybersecurity fame, all between nine and noon tomorrow. Talk to
Speaker 1: you then. Until then, Bye bye,