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Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Raisin
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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back again, Nour number two O t
B here live from the Raising Kine Studio. This is
totally random, and I don't get anything from saying this,
but I'll say real quick, and I don't want anybody
under the bus. But I tried another chicken establishment because
it was all that was in the area that I
was in. I was watching my brother. He came down
and coached in a soccer tournament. And let me just say,
knees is safe. All right, Kanes is gonna be okay
if that's the competition. Like, it's funny. That's the first
thing I said. I was like, Oh, canes is okay.
They do not have to worry. Yeah, just how tell
that it can be around a while? Yeah, they'll be okay.
All right, let's get to the pro football focused grades
for the LSU Tigers.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be all negative here today, so
we'll start with the positive. We'll go to the defensive
side of the football.
Speaker 4: You should have asked the listeners, do you want the
good news of the badness? Which what do you want?
Speaker 2: First?
Speaker 3: Well, sorry, I should have, but we didn't the defense,
how about you. Keem Jackson, Florida transfer, played twenty one
plays but showed up in a big way. He had
two big tackles on the drive for LSU where Western
Kentucky looked like they were going to pick up the
first down, and he made the tackles on both the
plays third and fourth down. So he actually grades out
as your highest graded defensive player. And I thought, for
a guy that hasn't played a lot and so montsiour
Delaine dressed out, went through warmups, didn't play in this game,
you were going to need your fourth corner to step
up and plays your third corner, and I thought he
did so. I thought he played well. Taytay's guy, Shawn Spears,
I thought he played well. He played way more than
I thought he would. Played twenty seven plays in this game.
He came in a couple of different times for to
Marcus Cooley, and he graded out as your second highest
graded player at seventy seven point nine. DJ Pickett who
was our player of the game in the booth. He
grades OUs your third highest at seventy five point one.
He had six tackles, he had a sack of course,
TfL and he had an interception as well.
Speaker 5: I thought DJ Pickett played really, really well.
Speaker 3: He is next in line for your next great dB
here at LSU, he's already pretty much started that process
now is a true freshman. He had Harold Perkins and
Jamari Butler and aj Halsey, Patrick Payton, but nor Good
and all great in the seventies or higher. So defensively,
it's what the you know, it's what the tape showed.
It showed a defense that went out there and made
the plays, had a ton of sacks, had a ton
of TFLs, turned the quarterback over a couple of different times.
Speaker 5: So yeah, that tracks.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, And let's always celebrate the victories, because life's
too short not to celebrate the accomplishments.
Speaker 2: Victories you play well on defense, celebrate it.
Speaker 4: But let's not like get it jump over the moon
about good grades against Western Kentucky.
Speaker 3: See, I'm going to disagree with you there because Western Kentucky,
like it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: You could say whatever you're gonna say next, it doesn't
matter LSU. First, Western Kentucky at home at night, you
should get good grades on defense.
Speaker 2: And you shouldn't.
Speaker 3: But still, Western Kentucky offensively had a top fifteen offense
in the country.
Speaker 5: So you still got to make the plays.
Speaker 3: Look, we played in a game in Tigre Stadium where
we had to beat Troy with two minutes left.
Speaker 2: I got it. Yeah, you're right, got it.
Speaker 3: I mean it's so you still got to make the plays, okay,
because it can be if you don't make the plays.
Speaker 5: You know what it can be.
Speaker 3: It can be on the other side of the football
where you didn't have a player grade in the seventies,
you didn't have one player on offense grade in the seventies.
The highest graded player was Weston Davis at sixty nine percent.
So it can be that and Western Kentucky's defense is
not good. Their offense is. Their offense ranks really high
in the country, first in the conference in like every
category they were top fifteen, and third down conversion the
offense was and you held them to was at four
or fifteen. The defense for Western Kentucky didn't have those stats.
One hundred and eight let me let me go ahead
and let me pull.
Speaker 2: It back up.
Speaker 3: I want to make sure that I get all these
numbers right. For Western Kentucky's defense, all right, they give
up twenty three points per game, which is fifty fourth
in the country, Rushing one hundred and seventy five yards
per game, which is one hundred and eighth in the country.
Passing they give up two hundred and twenty three yards
per game, which is seventy fifth in the country. They
give up three hundred and ninety nine yards per game,
which is ninety fifth in the country. They're fifty second
and third down conversion rates. Sacks they only had twelve
in the year. That was one hundred and twenty second
in the country. Twelve sacks the entire year. TFLs eighty
second in the country. So and I could go on
and on. I mean, turnover margins one hundredth in the country,
red zone defense ninety seventh in the country. So that
side of the ball for Western Kentucky's really bad. The
offense actually is like top fifteen in a lot of categories. Well,
the defense did what they were supposed to do. They
played well graded high. The offense going against a bad
Conference USA Western Kentucky defense didn't grade out high. You're
starting center, who you know goes down? I get that,
Bradley Moore only plays three plays, so you got to
move DJ Chester into the center position.
Speaker 5: You had Williams goes down.
Speaker 3: He was starting at right tackle, he had moved over
to left tackle. Then he goes down, so you got
to put Weston Davis back in there, and then you
got to put kernback at left tackle.
Speaker 5: I realized there was a lot of.
Speaker 3: Shuffling going on, but you would expect him against that
defense to great higher than sixty nine point six.
Speaker 4: Well me, let me just add this, there's never been
a team to play tackle football. They didn't have to
shuffle lineman every single game, didn't have to shuffle lineman
throughout the season, have to play with eight seven, eight
to nine offensive lineman throughout the season.
Speaker 2: So that's not there's there's no excuse there for that.
You got to play guys in.
Speaker 4: You gotta coach him, You got to they have to
be ready, you have to scheme, you have to play
call around it. That's part of the job of the coaches,
and then it's the job of the player is to
execute it. When they do have to play in different positions.
But there's never been a team that's ever played with
five guys all season. There's hardly every game where there's
not some sort of sixth or seventh a man that
rotates in during the game because equipment malfunction, a small injury,
someone in the concussion protocol. Like, there's different things that happen.
Someone's got to get a new tape on his hand
or his ankle or his knee or whatever it is.
There's rotations that happen all the time, So that cannot
be a fallback excuse for anything that you say in
pass protection or run at the running game block And
that's not an excuse because every team deals with it. Now,
you might have a little bit more than other teams,
I got it. You might have caught some bad breaks
here and there, But this is tackle football at the
highest level of Division one.
Speaker 3: Figured out inside the bouty for Chad one hundred and
eighth and rushing and we have to kick a field
goal from the one yard line.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I.
Speaker 3: My brain's hurting from watching a team on the one
yard line getting shot gun. And the frustrating part about
it is you started the game. You literally the first
play of this game for LSU, you were under center.
Speaker 5: I know you can do it. You did it in
the game.
Speaker 3: If you have a yard to go, why would you
start five yards behind?
Speaker 5: Said one yard? And I know it's not just LSU
that does that, It's a lot of teams college. I
hate it.
Speaker 3: As a running back, I hate it. So I've got
one yard to go. The defense knows I have one
yard to go, and we're gonna get in shotgun me.
As a running back, I'm gonna be coming across the formation.
I'm going towards the sideline while all eleven of the
defenders are coming towards me. They're going north and south.
I'm going east and west, and then at some point
I've got to try to put my foot in the
ground and then go north and south with no momentum
because I was going east and west and I'm gonna
try to score.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: LSU didn't even try to run the ball. I mean
they had multiple plays. They threw the ball, quarterback fumbled it,
quarterback ran it I think one time. So they didn't
even give the opportunity to the running back to go
from east west to north south.
Speaker 5: But don't don't line up and.
Speaker 3: Gone on the one yard line unless it's like fourth
and one and you're like we're gonna throw the football. Sure,
that was such a bad sequence that that sequence of
plays was like indicative of what we've seen all season
long from the LSU off.
Speaker 4: And I'll say this, the taking a snap from under
center and short yardage and goal line situations is five
times more challenging and then like a regular down a
distant situation because everything's so much tighter. There's usually a
nose guard over the helmet of the center. The center
has to get lower, like there's like taking a snap
at that point is harder, and it has to be
repped and repped and repped and practiced to feel like
comfortable with it. The quarterback has to ride the center
a little bit more. Usually he's usually shooting out to
try to get low pad level. It is different, so,
especially with the rotation that they've had at center, Like
if you're not one hundred percent quarter like comfortable that
you're gonna be able to do the most basic a thing,
which is the center quarterback exchange, then you have to
get gun.
Speaker 2: So that'll be my only.
Speaker 4: Excuse, and I only like try to try to make
sense of it because we know from what came out
during the Brian Kerry Kelly era, like we didn't do
a lot of live goal line situations, live short yarded situations,
so those the quarterbacks never had like a real chance
to practice. Now, Like I remember they going into like
nine on sevens or like inside run periods in practice
or goal line periods in practice, and like dreading it
because I knew that there was a potential for a
fumbled snap always, because like it's running game and they
know defense knows you're gonna run it. They pretty much
know what play you're going to run. So like the
center is always just like carrying the ball with them basically,
and you know, if you fumble the snap, actually it's
like a backup or a third string quarterback whatever, Like
it's going to look really dumb on you. So I'm
just bring that up just to say, like that's the
excuse I believe it has to be that they're not
one hundred percent comfortable with the s Q exchange, well
at least I hope, especially with offensive line is shifting around.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's you know, like Herm Edwards said, do
your job. Do your job. It's part of your job,
for your job to get snapped.
Speaker 3: For your job as a center to snap into the
Quarterback's part of your job as a quarterback to get
the snap from the center. It's part of your job
as a running back to the shore that you get
the ball from the quarterback.
Speaker 5: Either way, that's part of it.
Speaker 2: You're on the one yard, Like, get a yard. I
don't care.
Speaker 4: If you're a shotgun. You can run out a punt formation.
Get a yard. Oh that'd be I'd be sick fifteen
yards back there. I've always heard that, like, yeah, okay,
you're gonna snap it five yards away from the ball. Well,
like if you take a snap from under center, you're
running away from the line of scrimmage with the ball.
Speaker 3: But I'm talking more about the running back portion of it.
Speaker 5: Fine, unless we're unless we're in pistol.
Speaker 3: It's one yard, get it. Yes, if it's your job,
run yeah, exactly. So if it's one yard, go north
and south, not east and west. Before you go north
and south, it's bad football. It's bad planning. It's a
bad scheme. Hey, let me go this way, to go
that way while defense is going that way.
Speaker 2: Clap count.
Speaker 5: What would you have done?
Speaker 3: What would you have done in two thousand and seven
if we were on the two yard line trying to
score against Florida Unless or Gary Croton, whoever it was,
would have called in a shotgun run, you know, change
the formation said no, we're not doing that.
Speaker 5: That's dumb. I would have, yes, but it wouldn't have been.
Speaker 4: He got scored in the on the goal line against
Virginia Tech on a shotgun quarterback.
Speaker 2: I think as like a quarterback hornboss.
Speaker 5: There's no way you scored, no doubt, no.
Speaker 2: Little juke right a cut.
Speaker 5: We will find that, believe you.
Speaker 4: I can't wait to see this duke that you talked about.
Great cut, finding a lane, great vision, I mean Harlean
barry S vision. Mhm, it was it was in the
first half because it was before my spring wrinkle.
Speaker 5: Ankle boy.
Speaker 2: Well yeah. Moral of the story is we stink offense
right now?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: That stinks?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that it does.
Speaker 3: Shout out to p F Tiger seven says the Manny
Tigers just won the fifth and sixth grade super Bowl
in the NISE Texas League in the Power Eye attempted
one past this season.
Speaker 2: Let's go low man wins. Let's go why don't you
throw a pass?
Speaker 5: Must have just tried.
Speaker 2: To keep on their two's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it changed it up a little bit. No passes needed,
not when you're in the power eye.
Speaker 4: I'm assuming they went over one.
Speaker 5: Maybe it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: They won the championship, So shout out to them. One
shotgun in the one that whole sequence of plays they
shotgun in. Okay, it's not good. Everybody that does it
is bad.
Speaker 2: Are you trying to say if we went under center,
we would have scored.
Speaker 5: I'm not talking crazy here.
Speaker 2: Let's not get wild.
Speaker 5: Can you pull out the D side that play pulled up?
Speaker 6: I have Matt Flynn's touchdown?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: God, how grainy?
Speaker 2: Watch this? Watch this vision?
Speaker 4: Oh see that little shuffle, Kam Chancellor, see you ankles snatched?
Speaker 5: Seriously though, is this what it looked like on TV?
Speaker 4: Like when you it's much more clear. It's the download.
Go back to that real quick, Yeah, go back. Let's
see thet'll see the end zone copy.
Speaker 2: I don't think they have they have from behind.
Speaker 6: Alright here we get.
Speaker 2: Watch this Watch this guy h uh uh uh.
Speaker 5: Got Helm's pulled way too wide.
Speaker 6: There was a little bit of a juke.
Speaker 3: I think Helms was supposed to kick out and I
was supposed to go in and be the lead blocker.
He turned in and so I had to kick out.
I remember that play down there talking about it. I
got a stinger on that play that was That was
before the little high ankle took away the dual threat.
Speaker 2: Slash. It's a slasher.
Speaker 5: It was a juke.
Speaker 4: It was a jew telling him they got a view
from behind st even better. You're welcome for even more impressive.
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Speaker 3: I did get a text from someone who said air
quotes dual threat Matt Flynn versus Virginia Tech. Seven carries
for twelve yards one touchdown A big deal. That's almost
two yards of carry, double digits. I wonder what my
PFF grade would have been ninety Let's see how far
back PFF goes back to.
Speaker 5: Two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2: Lucky. I would love to go break down actual game
film with us Luck and like.
Speaker 6: Get a QBR of ninety five point two.
Speaker 5: That game, How You're Lucky two thousand and seven.
Speaker 4: Wasn't I wasn't the cleanest quarterback in the game. That
game breaks off them though. H yeah, they like they
like to use me as a dual threat. But it
was really more of like we're just gonna run our
starting quarterback and the quarterback power up the middle, get
two yards in a cloud of dust situation. It wasn't
a lot of like let me get him out of
the edge, get him open space, suit has got It
was more it.
Speaker 5: Saw those ankles and says, you know, I didn't really
say get on.
Speaker 3: The edge, like this was more grinding in between the hashes, you.
Speaker 2: Know, clap count situation.
Speaker 4: This is like, uh, two thousand and seven, l sue,
We're gonna average two point eight yards to carry.
Speaker 5: It worked all the way to a national championship.
Speaker 2: M be nice to see. Maybe that a good We
will buddy.
Speaker 5: Who's gonna be the coach though, at some point we
will have will coaching search.
Speaker 3: We'll have some tape to show people what they want.
Speaker 2: Jake, I want you to shout, Lane, I want you to.
Speaker 3: Show that clip of that play that they thought was
a legal formation.
Speaker 2: Do you have that it upstairs? Question? I hope not too. Yeah,
I gotta care.
Speaker 4: I gotta gotta find the wires, so you can't just
throw that at me. What they don't have the wires?
Speaker 2: Can? I ask why it's not connected at all times?
Speaker 5: Are you afraid of what you're searching over there and
Taylor's going to see it?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, of course no.
Speaker 4: Because when I connect, so you know, I use these
dual screens here, so when I connect it, it makes
everything go smaller, and then it takes away my dual
screens and it's just like the mirror image of the
same screen. I don't enjoy that only Taylor all up
in my business. What you have issues? Mo, bro give
the people what they want.
Speaker 5: The what oh, someone'm talking about Lane. It's the same.
It's the same as last time we left her own.
Speaker 2: Friday, the same Lane.
Speaker 7: What more can we say?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the same, doesn't matter, say the same things.
Speaker 5: Hey, but hey, I'm just saying it is the same.
It is the same.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're all hearing the same things. It's all
at the same point that it was when we left
your on Friday.
Speaker 5: Isn't and we talked about it a lot more.
Speaker 3: If we're not going to know anything into what what information?
Speaker 7: I guess? I guess the numbers came out over the weekend.
Like thought their offering.
Speaker 5: Him was that before after show. I don't even that
was after the.
Speaker 7: Show, because I think it came out Saturday morning or
Friday night. Friday night, yeah, okay, Friday late at night.
It came out the with the offer.
Speaker 5: That's about what we thought it would have to be.
Speaker 3: You weren't going to pay him less than whole miss
was paying him, and he was already one of the
top ten highest paid coaches in the country. That was
always going to have to be the number you were
always going to have to get to a number that
was close to what is being reported. Yeah, that part
of it I didn't even think about or really even
care about, because you knew that's what.
Speaker 2: It was going to be.
Speaker 7: It is interesting, though, that the governor made a big
stink of big contracts just for him to be like
I blessed this one.
Speaker 2: I like, really, just contract is governor approved?
Speaker 7: Okay, thanks, I'm glad the governor approved of this.
Speaker 4: Uh So when we left here so Friday night into
Saturday morning, like I was like, I don't really hear
from people because I don't seek breaking news. It's not
something like I don't try to take advantage of like
connections or people that I know or whatever try to
get information. It's just like why I don't care about that.
I don't want to break news. But I had people
reaching out to me telling me like, oh, it's done deal.
Speaker 2: I got a guy. I got a guy. Everybody's got
a guy, got a guy on the inside.
Speaker 4: This guy knows he's got insider knowledge, he's a money guy,
he's a this or that, and like if you're from
one person like so like we told like when the
Brian Kelly situation. I had one person reach out to me,
and I knew he was a trustworthy person, and.
Speaker 2: You were the first person.
Speaker 3: For me at least that as soon as you like
what you said early in that day that nobody else.
Speaker 4: Had it was true. Yeah, so like that, that's that's fine.
But like Friday and Saturday, people reach out to me
with five or six. I got a guy, guy in
the ol field.
Speaker 3: I got a guy, but he's a money guy.
Speaker 5: He's the owner of the old field.
Speaker 4: He's in the field the field. I got this guy.
I got this guy. I got this guy. There, it's
a done deal signed, Like I don't believe you, Well,
maybe I do believe you, but like there's so many
people with insider knowledge. It's like I tweeted the South
Saturday morning. I was like, either l s U, the
powers that beat LSU are the worst at keeping secrets
in the history of secrets. Or that's a little bit
of look over here, a little bit of in a
rabbit out of the hat situation.
Speaker 3: But you look over there, you also got to look
over here, master puppeteer and Jimmy Sexon, I don't know he.
Speaker 6: Did me with a D. Keith Carter on Friday.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and when Carter released his statement, half of its
crap where he's like, we're focused on the egg Bowl,
nobody cares. He said, you know, well, we had conversations
regarding his future. An announcement on Kiffin's future is expected Saturday,
following the Egg Bowl. On Friday's announcement, I get it,
But if you want to be if you want to
be eternal optimist, you could say, well, if Kifvin was staying,
why wouldn't they just announce that now?
Speaker 2: Sure, because he probably doesn't know. He probably doesn't exactly.
Speaker 6: He has Saturday till Saturday to make up his mind,
is what I read.
Speaker 4: Maybe it is a done deal in the fact that
he handshake agreement and said yeah, I'll come. Maybe he's
even like signed a letter of intent. I don't even know,
like whatever. Obviously, if he signed a letter of attendants
a breach of contract, and if you blink, Kefvin breaches
this contract and don't miss. I think he has a
miss four million dollars, which I'm assuming LSU would agree
to pay the top of the night million blah blah blah, whatever.
Speaker 2: What's four million? It's just money is a thing.
Speaker 4: Apparently in Louisiana we got a lot of it. But
he could also sign a letter of intent and then
not sign a contract. He can change his mind, right,
even if his mind is made up, if we're convinsed
that his mind is made up, which is what people
were trying to tell me.
Speaker 7: Literally, anything can happen from here to Saturday.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it can change too.
Speaker 3: Again, like Marcus Freeman was gonna come be the defensive coordinator,
like he was going to do it, and then eleventh
hours like I'm not doing it. That happens not all
the time, but in these coaching searches, you'd be surprised
how many times that does happen.
Speaker 2: Like we're gonna do it, let's agree.
Speaker 3: Okay, cool, cool, cool, and then it comes time to
actually get on a plane and come down and do it.
And it's like, actually, I mean, we've seen Billy Donovan
when he was coaching, like he goes and does like
a magic press conference. He's gonna be the magic coach
and he's like, ah, actually, let's don't do this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So we've seen coaches.
Speaker 3: Yes, softball situation here years ago, same situation.
Speaker 6: Was the name Murphy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you're you're pressed like you're going to be
the coach, and it's like, actually, oh my gosh, it's
like Ricky Bobby's dad when things start getting a little
too comfortable, I gotta get out of here. So like
that happens for sure, So it could change. But uh,
the fact of the matter is like one of these
rumors is going to be true. One of them is
gonna be true. He's gonna be somewhere. He's not gonna
not coach next year. So if it's LSU great, I
love the coach. I hate the circumstance, but all this
is happening, love the coach. I'd be super stoked to
have him as a hell after watching that offensive performance
on Saturday. Yeah, yes, that would be stoked to have
link iff In calling plays.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just hate the circumstance and all of it. We
can get more into that a little bit later. But
it's uh if, and he might be the head guys,
he might have agreed or whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, if you wanted to stay put
and get the most money you could, I think the
best rumor that could get out is that you've agreed
with another school for a lot of money. That's the
best kind of rumor to get out if you wanted
to stay at your current school and make the most
money possible. Yeah, the best thing to happen is for
them to think you are going somewhere else, even if
it screws up your current team that's trying to win
a national championship, playing in a big rivealry game to
a team that's pretty dangerous.
Speaker 3: You want to know, like the room real part that
I actually have heard from people that you know I do,
I do think have great information.
Speaker 5: Is the coach O part of it? Like that, I
think that does have some legs.
Speaker 3: If Lena has come back, there would be an opportunity
for coach for what position I think defensive line.
Speaker 5: To talk about I don't know, I don't know, or
maybe or maybe you know, maybe.
Speaker 3: It's you're going to be the lead recruiting assistant to
the head coach and I don't know, I don't know
what it's gonna be.
Speaker 5: But like I think enough people have.
Speaker 3: Mentioned that that are that are pretty locked in that
that does have legs. I prefer I think Kyle's done
an incredible with what he's been given and guys that
were here five years before he got here, in the
level of play that they're playing at, Like Guillory's playing
his best football, not even close. And this is his
sixth year, right, this six year guy, Well, what's the
reason for that.
Speaker 5: It's Kyle Williams.
Speaker 6: So this is gonna sound like a shot at coach. Oh,
and it is not.
Speaker 8: I don't know why a head coach would want to
have it or you're on on his l s U staff.
I mean, he was a guy that was a head
coach at this program that won a national championship. To me,
I wouldn't do that. You just have that kind of
breathing down your neck the whole time.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't do it. And it's not it's not coach,
it's f It just kind of is what it is.
Speaker 3: It's a unique situation. Now, you know, obviously they have
a great relationship. Like advance Joseph right now is the defense
coordinator for the Broncos. He was the head coach for
one year, got fired and they got the best defense
in the NFL. So we've seen that happen before. Yeah,
I mean Patrino is a.
Speaker 5: Bad example because Patrino's now the inter head.
Speaker 4: Coach advance didn't wasn't the head coach of the greatest NFL. Yeah,
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like we've seen examples of guys being
a head coach, being fired and coming back.
Speaker 4: I think that I think they have probably have a
really good relationship. So I think that I think that
relationship would work out fine.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: It's about to find them in the right position, don't. Yeah,
it's just assistant head coach. Yes, yeah, head of pregame speeches, and.
Speaker 3: You're going to be in the defensive meetings, and you're
going to be you know, a recruiting and get everybody
ready to go and talking to the media. Can you
imagine like head of recruiting, he wouldn't have to worry
about even coaching, just head of recruiting.
Speaker 2: Right. So, like.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you this defensive staff man, I want to
I want to try to keep as many of those
guys in place as you can. Even the running quarterback
stuff that a lot of people point out. If you
kind of read between some of the tweets out there,
there was some things I think that we're being told, Hey,
you got to do this defensively that once they've kind
of been freed up. Think about what the defenses look
like in those situations. Like even last week you played
like Western Kentucky's guy had run for a lot of yards.
Green To run for a lot of yards at Arkansas.
Even Ty Simpson and had some big runs at Alabama.
So even that's been cleaned up since you make a
coaching change. So anyhow, you got a lot of guys.
You've got a lot of guys on that side of
the ball that you got to try to retain bring back.
I tell you create a great defense staff. And then
on the other side, I think it's you know, it's
gonna be a it's gonna be a reset, certainly when
you're bringing in an offensive minded head coach.
Speaker 4: What I want to ask you about, and let's do
this after the break, is what Jacob Hester would do
in Lane Kiffin's shoes. Right now when I have to
make a decision on leaving a team, See what you
think on that?
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Speaker 4: So Jacob Hester, you're the head coach of ole Miss,
butt your team in a historic run for Ole Miss.
You've been the head coach there for a good handful
of years. I've really built that program up to a
place where it's nationally relevant. Actually playing for a national
championship this year, with the opportunity to go and beat
your rival this week, I'm still not getting to it. Yeah,
let's still got a chance to get in a playoff.
You actually have a chance, Jake, to host a playoff game.
Speaker 2: In Oxford.
Speaker 4: But there's this, there's this it you've been wanting to
scratch for a long time. That's the l s U job.
But it means that you got to leave your team
high and dry. You got to leave those young men
that you've been developing and molding and recruited and then
spent time with their families. You know their parents' names,
you know their brothers and sisters' names. Got a great
relationship to it. So what are you going to do?
Are you going to leave them to take your dream job?
Even though the current place is offered to match. They
said they wouldn't be outdid so they would match, all
the money, all the moneys are are you staying?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 3: So the meathead in me, which is like ninety percent
of me, it's saying, stay, I'm going to coach that team.
It's unfortunate the timing. I do want to go to
my dream job. Uh So, yeah, that portion of it.
And yeah, look you probably knew the answer. I think
that's why Matt asked the question. He wanted to hear
me say it, like I would coach that team for sure,
just what I would do. I've never been a coach
obviously anywhere close to this level, so I don't know
the dream job eight.
Speaker 5: Tenu, sir, I don't know.
Speaker 2: We're getting up there in years.
Speaker 3: So like that portion of it, So like it's hard
for me to answer it, Like again, what I would
do at Stay, y'all know me, but I'm not there
every day, so I don't know if like okay, Like
in his mind he's like, dude, we're doing everything we
possibly can and we're still not getting even to Atlanta.
Still got a chance to win a championship. I don't
think they do, but they have a chance. And so
but they've still never been to Atlanta. They've still never
gone to an SEC chair. The team that you say
is not in the SEC, Missouri has gone to two
and they've been in the conference for thirteen years. Texas
one year in and they went, so like, there's that
portion of it too in his mind that I'm sure
he's thinking, man, they went to an SEC championship game
under Brian Kelly and they you know, and they moved
on from the guy.
Speaker 5: So I don't know what.
Speaker 3: In his mind if he sees like the path for
success and how tapped out he thinks they are there,
Maybe they're not.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Again, they still have a chance this year.
Speaker 3: They will make the CAST Football Playoff unless crazy things happen.
I get what you're saying, But that's the only thing
I can think is he's thinking, man, we've done all
of this, We've done all this great work.
Speaker 5: We keep getting praise for all.
Speaker 3: The things we've done here, and we still haven't even
played for the conference title.
Speaker 4: If you think, well, okay, so you're saying you would stay.
Speaker 3: Just based off coaching the team and them having a chance, Yeah,
I think I would.
Speaker 5: But again I do want to point out I don't
know what.
Speaker 3: It's like to have a top tier dangling right there
for you. Like, as a player, I'm trying to think,
like what that compared to be.
Speaker 4: It would bother me that I would have to that
I'm gonna leave, leave to go play, to go take
the job of a school that I got to play
every single year. That part would bother me, certainly. There's yeah,
there's zero percent chance that I would that I would
leave in like in a comparable situation. Of course, if
it was LSU and it was me Ould, I would
leave for anybody to go coach at LSU.
Speaker 5: But anybody where home is for Lane Kiffen.
Speaker 2: State.
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's would he would he played. So there's
Billy Bullock's back up.
Speaker 4: You have to sit there and look those men in
the eye and say I'm leaving you before the playoffs start.
That enough alone, in itself would be enough to not
make me take a job somewhere else. Maybe not because
I like what exactly I want, but how hard it
would be to leave a situation like that, especially at
this time now if they had three or four losses, yeah,
that's a completely different situation. And I mean I loved
what Nick Saban said on game day this past Weekend
about he did say that it wasn't Alane Kiffen conundrum.
Speaker 2: I think was the word. It's a college football issue.
Speaker 4: The timing of everything early signing day for high school
kids is dumb. It makes everybody have to rush and
make these decisions. It makes coaches have to make these
awful impossible decisions of leaving a team to take another job.
They shouldn't have to do that. Lane Kiffton should not
have to decide right now. Saban compared the NFL to
the college. In the NFL, you cannot leave a coaching
job until your team season is over. It should be
the same thing in college football, and it's not. And
I know it's impossible to do that because of all
the schedules. Change the schedule. Somebody step up to the
plate and make college football makes sense. It is in
such a foo bar state right now that a coach
that's coaching for a national championship with a group group
of young men eighteen to twenty three years old, he's
got to tell them by in the middle of their chase,
in the middle of what they built, because he's taken
a better opportunity. No one can blame him for taking
a better opportunity, but the circumstance in which he has
to do it is crappy. It's awful, and it's college
football's fault. And yeah, you can blame him and say, well, coach,
you know Lane Kiffin can't ever talk about loyalty again
if he if he decides to leave, you can't. You
can't say, oh, you got to be loyal to the team, player, X,
y Z, whatever it is. Well, the state of the
fou bar state of college football has forced.
Speaker 2: Him to make this decision and it sucks.
Speaker 4: Like I said, I would be ecstatic if he was
a coach at LSU, I would be upset at the situation.
Speaker 2: I love the coach, I hate the circumstance. Yeah, that
part of it is completely fair.
Speaker 3: Same situations, looking at what the opportunity is and you
have to you got to ask the tough question.
Speaker 5: Do I go to a place that I think.
Speaker 3: My career and the players can can thrive potentially like
nothing's guaranteed by any means, or do we you know,
you stay here and like what is the ceiling?
Speaker 5: Like what truly is is this the ceiling? Does he
feel like.
Speaker 3: He has squeezed every ounce of juice that he possibly can.
Speaker 2: Who's the state you're playing for, destin?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I think that's a loser mentality if
you do. We're not there every day though, I mean,
I agree with you, I agree. I'm saying we're not
there day in and day out.
Speaker 4: We haven't been there for We can't look at the
history of oh Miss because this isn't the same. College
football is a different that era of college football. Look
at what they've done since he's been there. Say well,
we're gonna keep doing that. I'm doing this with a
quarterback that I got from what Paras State?
Speaker 2: Fairris State? Doing all this with a Fair State quarterback?
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