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Speaker 1: All start to Yoda presents Off the Bench with Jacob

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Hester and Matt Flynn.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where.

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Speaker 1: The plays get broken down and science gets denied the Bench.

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Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Raisin

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back again, Nour number two O t

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B here live from the Raising Kine Studio. This is

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totally random, and I don't get anything from saying this,

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but I'll say real quick, and I don't want anybody

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under the bus. But I tried another chicken establishment because

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it was all that was in the area that I

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was in. I was watching my brother. He came down

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and coached in a soccer tournament. And let me just say,

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knees is safe. All right, Kanes is gonna be okay

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if that's the competition. Like, it's funny. That's the first

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thing I said. I was like, Oh, canes is okay.

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They do not have to worry. Yeah, just how tell

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that it can be around a while? Yeah, they'll be okay.

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All right, let's get to the pro football focused grades

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for the LSU Tigers.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be all negative here today, so

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we'll start with the positive. We'll go to the defensive

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side of the football.

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Speaker 4: You should have asked the listeners, do you want the

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good news of the badness? Which what do you want?

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Speaker 2: First?

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Speaker 3: Well, sorry, I should have, but we didn't the defense,

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how about you. Keem Jackson, Florida transfer, played twenty one

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plays but showed up in a big way. He had

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two big tackles on the drive for LSU where Western

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Kentucky looked like they were going to pick up the

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first down, and he made the tackles on both the

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plays third and fourth down. So he actually grades out

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as your highest graded defensive player. And I thought, for

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a guy that hasn't played a lot and so montsiour

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Delaine dressed out, went through warmups, didn't play in this game,

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you were going to need your fourth corner to step

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up and plays your third corner, and I thought he

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did so. I thought he played well. Taytay's guy, Shawn Spears,

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I thought he played well. He played way more than

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I thought he would. Played twenty seven plays in this game.

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He came in a couple of different times for to

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Marcus Cooley, and he graded out as your second highest

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graded player at seventy seven point nine. DJ Pickett who

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was our player of the game in the booth. He

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grades OUs your third highest at seventy five point one.

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He had six tackles, he had a sack of course,

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TfL and he had an interception as well.

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Speaker 5: I thought DJ Pickett played really, really well.

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Speaker 3: He is next in line for your next great dB

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here at LSU, he's already pretty much started that process

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now is a true freshman. He had Harold Perkins and

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Jamari Butler and aj Halsey, Patrick Payton, but nor Good

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and all great in the seventies or higher. So defensively,

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it's what the you know, it's what the tape showed.

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It showed a defense that went out there and made

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the plays, had a ton of sacks, had a ton

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of TFLs, turned the quarterback over a couple of different times.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, that tracks.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, And let's always celebrate the victories, because life's

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too short not to celebrate the accomplishments.

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Speaker 2: Victories you play well on defense, celebrate it.

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Speaker 4: But let's not like get it jump over the moon

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about good grades against Western Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: See, I'm going to disagree with you there because Western Kentucky,

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like it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: You could say whatever you're gonna say next, it doesn't

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matter LSU. First, Western Kentucky at home at night, you

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should get good grades on defense.

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Speaker 2: And you shouldn't.

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Speaker 3: But still, Western Kentucky offensively had a top fifteen offense

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in the country.

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Speaker 5: So you still got to make the plays.

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Speaker 3: Look, we played in a game in Tigre Stadium where

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we had to beat Troy with two minutes left.

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Speaker 2: I got it. Yeah, you're right, got it.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's so you still got to make the plays, okay,

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because it can be if you don't make the plays.

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Speaker 5: You know what it can be.

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Speaker 3: It can be on the other side of the football

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where you didn't have a player grade in the seventies,

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you didn't have one player on offense grade in the seventies.

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The highest graded player was Weston Davis at sixty nine percent.

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So it can be that and Western Kentucky's defense is

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not good. Their offense is. Their offense ranks really high

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in the country, first in the conference in like every

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category they were top fifteen, and third down conversion the

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offense was and you held them to was at four

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or fifteen. The defense for Western Kentucky didn't have those stats.

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One hundred and eight let me let me go ahead

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and let me pull.

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Speaker 2: It back up.

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Speaker 3: I want to make sure that I get all these

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numbers right. For Western Kentucky's defense, all right, they give

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up twenty three points per game, which is fifty fourth

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in the country, Rushing one hundred and seventy five yards

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per game, which is one hundred and eighth in the country.

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Passing they give up two hundred and twenty three yards

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per game, which is seventy fifth in the country. They

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give up three hundred and ninety nine yards per game,

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which is ninety fifth in the country. They're fifty second

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and third down conversion rates. Sacks they only had twelve

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in the year. That was one hundred and twenty second

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in the country. Twelve sacks the entire year. TFLs eighty

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second in the country. So and I could go on

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and on. I mean, turnover margins one hundredth in the country,

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red zone defense ninety seventh in the country. So that

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side of the ball for Western Kentucky's really bad. The

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offense actually is like top fifteen in a lot of categories. Well,

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the defense did what they were supposed to do. They

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played well graded high. The offense going against a bad

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Conference USA Western Kentucky defense didn't grade out high. You're

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starting center, who you know goes down? I get that,

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Bradley Moore only plays three plays, so you got to

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move DJ Chester into the center position.

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Speaker 5: You had Williams goes down.

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Speaker 3: He was starting at right tackle, he had moved over

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to left tackle. Then he goes down, so you got

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to put Weston Davis back in there, and then you

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got to put kernback at left tackle.

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Speaker 5: I realized there was a lot of.

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Speaker 3: Shuffling going on, but you would expect him against that

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defense to great higher than sixty nine point six.

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Speaker 4: Well me, let me just add this, there's never been

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a team to play tackle football. They didn't have to

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shuffle lineman every single game, didn't have to shuffle lineman

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throughout the season, have to play with eight seven, eight

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to nine offensive lineman throughout the season.

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Speaker 2: So that's not there's there's no excuse there for that.

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Speaker 4: You gotta coach him, You got to they have to

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be ready, you have to scheme, you have to play

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call around it. That's part of the job of the coaches,

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and then it's the job of the player is to

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execute it. When they do have to play in different positions.

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But there's never been a team that's ever played with

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five guys all season. There's hardly every game where there's

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not some sort of sixth or seventh a man that

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rotates in during the game because equipment malfunction, a small injury,

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someone in the concussion protocol. Like, there's different things that happen.

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or his ankle or his knee or whatever it is.

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There's rotations that happen all the time, So that cannot

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be a fallback excuse for anything that you say in

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pass protection or run at the running game block And

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that's not an excuse because every team deals with it. Now,

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you might have a little bit more than other teams,

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I got it. You might have caught some bad breaks

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here and there, But this is tackle football at the

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highest level of Division one.

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Speaker 3: Figured out inside the bouty for Chad one hundred and

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eighth and rushing and we have to kick a field

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goal from the one yard line.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I.

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Speaker 3: My brain's hurting from watching a team on the one

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yard line getting shot gun. And the frustrating part about

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it is you started the game. You literally the first

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play of this game for LSU, you were under center.

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Speaker 5: I know you can do it. You did it in

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the game.

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Speaker 3: If you have a yard to go, why would you

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start five yards behind?

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Speaker 5: Said one yard? And I know it's not just LSU

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that does that, It's a lot of teams college. I

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hate it.

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Speaker 3: As a running back, I hate it. So I've got

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one yard to go. The defense knows I have one

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yard to go, and we're gonna get in shotgun me.

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As a running back, I'm gonna be coming across the formation.

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I'm going towards the sideline while all eleven of the

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defenders are coming towards me. They're going north and south.

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I'm going east and west, and then at some point

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I've got to try to put my foot in the

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ground and then go north and south with no momentum

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because I was going east and west and I'm gonna

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try to score.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: LSU didn't even try to run the ball. I mean

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they had multiple plays. They threw the ball, quarterback fumbled it,

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quarterback ran it I think one time. So they didn't

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even give the opportunity to the running back to go

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from east west to north south.

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Speaker 5: But don't don't line up and.

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Speaker 3: Gone on the one yard line unless it's like fourth

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and one and you're like we're gonna throw the football. Sure,

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that was such a bad sequence that that sequence of

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plays was like indicative of what we've seen all season

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long from the LSU off.

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Speaker 4: And I'll say this, the taking a snap from under

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center and short yardage and goal line situations is five

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times more challenging and then like a regular down a

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distant situation because everything's so much tighter. There's usually a

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nose guard over the helmet of the center. The center

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has to get lower, like there's like taking a snap

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at that point is harder, and it has to be

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repped and repped and repped and practiced to feel like

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comfortable with it. The quarterback has to ride the center

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a little bit more. Usually he's usually shooting out to

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try to get low pad level. It is different, so,

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especially with the rotation that they've had at center, Like

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if you're not one hundred percent quarter like comfortable that

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you're gonna be able to do the most basic a thing,

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which is the center quarterback exchange, then you have to

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get gun.

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Speaker 2: So that'll be my only.

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Speaker 4: Excuse, and I only like try to try to make

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sense of it because we know from what came out

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during the Brian Kerry Kelly era, like we didn't do

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a lot of live goal line situations, live short yarded situations,

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so those the quarterbacks never had like a real chance

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to practice. Now, Like I remember they going into like

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nine on sevens or like inside run periods in practice

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or goal line periods in practice, and like dreading it

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because I knew that there was a potential for a

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fumbled snap always, because like it's running game and they

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know defense knows you're gonna run it. They pretty much

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know what play you're going to run. So like the

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center is always just like carrying the ball with them basically,

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and you know, if you fumble the snap, actually it's

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like a backup or a third string quarterback whatever, Like

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it's going to look really dumb on you. So I'm

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just bring that up just to say, like that's the

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excuse I believe it has to be that they're not

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one hundred percent comfortable with the s Q exchange, well

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at least I hope, especially with offensive line is shifting around.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's you know, like Herm Edwards said, do

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your job. Do your job. It's part of your job,

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for your job to get snapped.

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Speaker 3: For your job as a center to snap into the

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the snap from the center. It's part of your job

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as a running back to the shore that you get

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the ball from the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Either way, that's part of it.

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Speaker 2: You're on the one yard, Like, get a yard. I

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don't care.

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Speaker 4: If you're a shotgun. You can run out a punt formation.

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Get a yard. Oh that'd be I'd be sick fifteen

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yards back there. I've always heard that, like, yeah, okay,

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you're gonna snap it five yards away from the ball. Well,

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like if you take a snap from under center, you're

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running away from the line of scrimmage with the ball.

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Speaker 3: But I'm talking more about the running back portion of it.

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Speaker 5: Fine, unless we're unless we're in pistol.

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Speaker 3: It's one yard, get it. Yes, if it's your job,

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run yeah, exactly. So if it's one yard, go north

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and south, not east and west. Before you go north

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and south, it's bad football. It's bad planning. It's a

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bad scheme. Hey, let me go this way, to go

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that way while defense is going that way.

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Speaker 2: Clap count.

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Speaker 5: What would you have done?

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Speaker 3: What would you have done in two thousand and seven

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if we were on the two yard line trying to

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score against Florida Unless or Gary Croton, whoever it was,

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would have called in a shotgun run, you know, change

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the formation said no, we're not doing that.

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Speaker 5: That's dumb. I would have, yes, but it wouldn't have been.

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Speaker 4: He got scored in the on the goal line against

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Virginia Tech on a shotgun quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I think as like a quarterback hornboss.

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Speaker 5: There's no way you scored, no doubt, no.

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Speaker 2: Little juke right a cut.

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Speaker 5: We will find that, believe you.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to see this duke that you talked about.

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Great cut, finding a lane, great vision, I mean Harlean

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barry S vision. Mhm, it was it was in the

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first half because it was before my spring wrinkle.

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Speaker 5: Ankle boy.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah. Moral of the story is we stink offense

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right now?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: That stinks?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that it does.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to p F Tiger seven says the Manny

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Tigers just won the fifth and sixth grade super Bowl

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in the NISE Texas League in the Power Eye attempted

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one past this season.

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Speaker 2: Let's go low man wins. Let's go why don't you

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throw a pass?

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Speaker 5: Must have just tried.

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Speaker 2: To keep on their two's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it changed it up a little bit. No passes needed,

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not when you're in the power eye.

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Speaker 4: I'm assuming they went over one.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: They won the championship, So shout out to them. One

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shotgun in the one that whole sequence of plays they

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shotgun in. Okay, it's not good. Everybody that does it

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is bad.

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Speaker 2: Are you trying to say if we went under center,

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we would have scored.

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Speaker 5: I'm not talking crazy here.

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Speaker 2: Let's not get wild.

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Speaker 5: Can you pull out the D side that play pulled up?

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Speaker 6: I have Matt Flynn's touchdown?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: God, how grainy?

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Speaker 2: Watch this? Watch this vision?

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Speaker 4: Oh see that little shuffle, Kam Chancellor, see you ankles snatched?

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Speaker 5: Seriously though, is this what it looked like on TV?

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Speaker 4: Like when you it's much more clear. It's the download.

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Go back to that real quick, Yeah, go back. Let's

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see thet'll see the end zone copy.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they have they have from behind.

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Speaker 6: Alright here we get.

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Speaker 2: Watch this Watch this guy h uh uh uh.

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Speaker 5: Got Helm's pulled way too wide.

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Speaker 6: There was a little bit of a juke.

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Speaker 3: I think Helms was supposed to kick out and I

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was supposed to go in and be the lead blocker.

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He turned in and so I had to kick out.

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I remember that play down there talking about it. I

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got a stinger on that play that was That was

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before the little high ankle took away the dual threat.

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Speaker 2: Slash. It's a slasher.

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Speaker 5: It was a juke.

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Speaker 4: It was a jew telling him they got a view

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from behind st even better. You're welcome for even more impressive.

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a big deal if you're kind of Also, what I'm

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Speaker 2: Jake, peptides. Yep, heard a lot about peptides.

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Speaker 5: You've been talking about that for a lit while and.

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Speaker 4: Hearing about it for a long time, but I just

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never really you know, had that source to go get them.

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Speaker 2: Well right here that and.

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Speaker 4: Just get those peptides do a lot of different things,

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and I'm excited about seeing it. So I'll keep you

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updated on the whole peptide situation.

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Speaker 2: But go check them out.

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Speaker 3: I did get a text from someone who said air

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quotes dual threat Matt Flynn versus Virginia Tech. Seven carries

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for twelve yards one touchdown A big deal. That's almost

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two yards of carry, double digits. I wonder what my

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PFF grade would have been ninety Let's see how far

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back PFF goes back to.

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Speaker 5: Two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 2: Lucky. I would love to go break down actual game

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film with us Luck and like.

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Speaker 6: Get a QBR of ninety five point two.

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Speaker 5: That game, How You're Lucky two thousand and seven.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't I wasn't the cleanest quarterback in the game. That

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game breaks off them though. H yeah, they like they

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like to use me as a dual threat. But it

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was really more of like we're just gonna run our

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starting quarterback and the quarterback power up the middle, get

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two yards in a cloud of dust situation. It wasn't

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a lot of like let me get him out of

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the edge, get him open space, suit has got It

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was more it.

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Speaker 5: Saw those ankles and says, you know, I didn't really

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say get on.

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Speaker 3: The edge, like this was more grinding in between the hashes, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, clap count situation.

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Speaker 4: This is like, uh, two thousand and seven, l sue,

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We're gonna average two point eight yards to carry.

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Speaker 5: It worked all the way to a national championship.

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Speaker 2: M be nice to see. Maybe that a good We

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will buddy.

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Speaker 5: Who's gonna be the coach though, at some point we

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will have will coaching search.

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Speaker 3: We'll have some tape to show people what they want.

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Speaker 2: Jake, I want you to shout, Lane, I want you to.

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Speaker 3: Show that clip of that play that they thought was

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a legal formation.

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Speaker 2: Do you have that it upstairs? Question? I hope not too. Yeah,

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I gotta care.

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Speaker 4: I gotta gotta find the wires, so you can't just

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throw that at me. What they don't have the wires?

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Speaker 2: Can? I ask why it's not connected at all times?

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Speaker 5: Are you afraid of what you're searching over there and

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Taylor's going to see it?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, of course no.

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Speaker 4: Because when I connect, so you know, I use these

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dual screens here, so when I connect it, it makes

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everything go smaller, and then it takes away my dual

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screens and it's just like the mirror image of the

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same screen. I don't enjoy that only Taylor all up

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in my business. What you have issues? Mo, bro give

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the people what they want.

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Speaker 5: The what oh, someone'm talking about Lane. It's the same.

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It's the same as last time we left her own.

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Speaker 2: Friday, the same Lane.

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Speaker 7: What more can we say?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the same, doesn't matter, say the same things.

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Speaker 5: Hey, but hey, I'm just saying it is the same.

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It is the same.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're all hearing the same things. It's all

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at the same point that it was when we left

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your on Friday.

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Speaker 5: Isn't and we talked about it a lot more.

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Speaker 3: If we're not going to know anything into what what information?

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Speaker 7: I guess? I guess the numbers came out over the weekend.

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Like thought their offering.

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Speaker 5: Him was that before after show. I don't even that

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was after the.

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Speaker 7: Show, because I think it came out Saturday morning or

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Friday night. Friday night, yeah, okay, Friday late at night.

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It came out the with the offer.

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Speaker 5: That's about what we thought it would have to be.

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Speaker 3: You weren't going to pay him less than whole miss

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was paying him, and he was already one of the

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top ten highest paid coaches in the country. That was

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always going to have to be the number you were

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always going to have to get to a number that

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was close to what is being reported. Yeah, that part

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of it I didn't even think about or really even

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care about, because you knew that's what.

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Speaker 2: It was going to be.

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Speaker 7: It is interesting, though, that the governor made a big

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stink of big contracts just for him to be like

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I blessed this one.

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Speaker 2: I like, really, just contract is governor approved?

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Speaker 7: Okay, thanks, I'm glad the governor approved of this.

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Speaker 4: Uh So when we left here so Friday night into

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Saturday morning, like I was like, I don't really hear

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from people because I don't seek breaking news. It's not

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something like I don't try to take advantage of like

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connections or people that I know or whatever try to

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get information. It's just like why I don't care about that.

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I don't want to break news. But I had people

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reaching out to me telling me like, oh, it's done deal.

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Speaker 2: I got a guy. I got a guy. Everybody's got

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a guy, got a guy on the inside.

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Speaker 4: This guy knows he's got insider knowledge, he's a money guy,

476
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he's a this or that, and like if you're from

477
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one person like so like we told like when the

478
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,640
Brian Kelly situation. I had one person reach out to me,

479
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and I knew he was a trustworthy person, and.

480
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Speaker 2: You were the first person.

481
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Speaker 3: For me at least that as soon as you like

482
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what you said early in that day that nobody else.

483
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 4: Had it was true. Yeah, so like that, that's that's fine.

484
00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:08,720
But like Friday and Saturday, people reach out to me

485
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with five or six. I got a guy, guy in

486
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the ol field.

487
00:24:15,839 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 3: I got a guy, but he's a money guy.

488
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Speaker 5: He's the owner of the old field.

489
00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:23,759
Speaker 4: He's in the field the field. I got this guy.

490
00:24:23,799 --> 00:24:26,000
I got this guy. I got this guy. There, it's

491
00:24:26,039 --> 00:24:31,880
a done deal signed, Like I don't believe you, Well,

492
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,279
maybe I do believe you, but like there's so many

493
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,319
people with insider knowledge. It's like I tweeted the South

494
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Saturday morning. I was like, either l s U, the

495
00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:44,039
powers that beat LSU are the worst at keeping secrets

496
00:24:44,039 --> 00:24:48,960
in the history of secrets. Or that's a little bit

497
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,160
of look over here, a little bit of in a

498
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,480
rabbit out of the hat situation.

499
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Speaker 3: But you look over there, you also got to look

500
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over here, master puppeteer and Jimmy Sexon, I don't know he.

501
00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:04,079
Speaker 6: Did me with a D. Keith Carter on Friday.

502
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, and when Carter released his statement, half of its

503
00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:09,039
crap where he's like, we're focused on the egg Bowl,

504
00:25:09,079 --> 00:25:12,480
nobody cares. He said, you know, well, we had conversations

505
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,440
regarding his future. An announcement on Kiffin's future is expected Saturday,

506
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,319
following the Egg Bowl. On Friday's announcement, I get it,

507
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,279
But if you want to be if you want to

508
00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:29,920
be eternal optimist, you could say, well, if Kifvin was staying,

509
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,440
why wouldn't they just announce that now?

510
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 2: Sure, because he probably doesn't know. He probably doesn't exactly.

511
00:25:38,839 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 6: He has Saturday till Saturday to make up his mind,

512
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is what I read.

513
00:25:41,319 --> 00:25:43,079
Speaker 4: Maybe it is a done deal in the fact that

514
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,799
he handshake agreement and said yeah, I'll come. Maybe he's

515
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,440
even like signed a letter of intent. I don't even know,

516
00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:51,559
like whatever. Obviously, if he signed a letter of attendants

517
00:25:51,599 --> 00:25:54,200
a breach of contract, and if you blink, Kefvin breaches

518
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,759
this contract and don't miss. I think he has a

519
00:25:55,839 --> 00:25:58,880
miss four million dollars, which I'm assuming LSU would agree

520
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,240
to pay the top of the night million blah blah blah, whatever.

521
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 2: What's four million? It's just money is a thing.

522
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:08,039
Speaker 4: Apparently in Louisiana we got a lot of it. But

523
00:26:09,279 --> 00:26:11,400
he could also sign a letter of intent and then

524
00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:15,480
not sign a contract. He can change his mind, right,

525
00:26:15,759 --> 00:26:17,839
even if his mind is made up, if we're convinsed

526
00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:20,440
that his mind is made up, which is what people

527
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,240
were trying to tell me.

528
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,079
Speaker 7: Literally, anything can happen from here to Saturday.

529
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it can change too.

530
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 3: Again, like Marcus Freeman was gonna come be the defensive coordinator,

531
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:33,519
like he was going to do it, and then eleventh

532
00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:36,799
hours like I'm not doing it. That happens not all

533
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,400
the time, but in these coaching searches, you'd be surprised

534
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,640
how many times that does happen.

535
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 2: Like we're gonna do it, let's agree.

536
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 3: Okay, cool, cool, cool, and then it comes time to

537
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,440
actually get on a plane and come down and do it.

538
00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:51,519
And it's like, actually, I mean, we've seen Billy Donovan

539
00:26:51,599 --> 00:26:53,240
when he was coaching, like he goes and does like

540
00:26:53,559 --> 00:26:56,200
a magic press conference. He's gonna be the magic coach

541
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,920
and he's like, ah, actually, let's don't do this.

542
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So we've seen coaches.

543
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,279
Speaker 3: Yes, softball situation here years ago, same situation.

544
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:06,039
Speaker 6: Was the name Murphy.

545
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you're you're pressed like you're going to be

546
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,960
the coach, and it's like, actually, oh my gosh, it's

547
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,920
like Ricky Bobby's dad when things start getting a little

548
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,519
too comfortable, I gotta get out of here. So like

549
00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:20,119
that happens for sure, So it could change. But uh,

550
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,720
the fact of the matter is like one of these

551
00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:24,160
rumors is going to be true. One of them is

552
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,319
gonna be true. He's gonna be somewhere. He's not gonna

553
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,480
not coach next year. So if it's LSU great, I

554
00:27:31,559 --> 00:27:35,079
love the coach. I hate the circumstance, but all this

555
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,400
is happening, love the coach. I'd be super stoked to

556
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,000
have him as a hell after watching that offensive performance

557
00:27:40,039 --> 00:27:43,039
on Saturday. Yeah, yes, that would be stoked to have

558
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,279
link iff In calling plays.

559
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

560
00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 4: I just hate the circumstance and all of it. We

561
00:27:46,759 --> 00:27:49,519
can get more into that a little bit later. But

562
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,720
it's uh if, and he might be the head guys,

563
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:56,680
he might have agreed or whatever.

564
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:57,039
Speaker 2: I don't know.

565
00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:00,319
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, if you wanted to stay put

566
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,160
and get the most money you could, I think the

567
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,720
best rumor that could get out is that you've agreed

568
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,680
with another school for a lot of money. That's the

569
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,559
best kind of rumor to get out if you wanted

570
00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:12,240
to stay at your current school and make the most

571
00:28:12,279 --> 00:28:16,440
money possible. Yeah, the best thing to happen is for

572
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:21,359
them to think you are going somewhere else, even if

573
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,160
it screws up your current team that's trying to win

574
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,839
a national championship, playing in a big rivealry game to

575
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,200
a team that's pretty dangerous.

576
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 3: You want to know, like the room real part that

577
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,279
I actually have heard from people that you know I do,

578
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,400
I do think have great information.

579
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,799
Speaker 5: Is the coach O part of it? Like that, I

580
00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:44,119
think that does have some legs.

581
00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:48,559
Speaker 3: If Lena has come back, there would be an opportunity

582
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,240
for coach for what position I think defensive line.

583
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,559
Speaker 5: To talk about I don't know, I don't know, or

584
00:28:56,559 --> 00:28:59,480
maybe or maybe you know, maybe.

585
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 3: It's you're going to be the lead recruiting assistant to

586
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,000
the head coach and I don't know, I don't know

587
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:06,599
what it's gonna be.

588
00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:08,599
Speaker 5: But like I think enough people have.

589
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: Mentioned that that are that are pretty locked in that

590
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,279
that does have legs. I prefer I think Kyle's done

591
00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:21,960
an incredible with what he's been given and guys that

592
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,039
were here five years before he got here, in the

593
00:29:25,119 --> 00:29:28,119
level of play that they're playing at, Like Guillory's playing

594
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,960
his best football, not even close. And this is his

595
00:29:31,079 --> 00:29:34,640
sixth year, right, this six year guy, Well, what's the

596
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:35,359
reason for that.

597
00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:36,559
Speaker 5: It's Kyle Williams.

598
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 6: So this is gonna sound like a shot at coach. Oh,

599
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:40,960
and it is not.

600
00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 8: I don't know why a head coach would want to

601
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:48,359
have it or you're on on his l s U staff.

602
00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:50,000
I mean, he was a guy that was a head

603
00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:53,799
coach at this program that won a national championship. To me,

604
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,480
I wouldn't do that. You just have that kind of

605
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:56,839
breathing down your neck the whole time.

606
00:29:57,039 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: I wouldn't.

607
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 6: I wouldn't do it. And it's not it's not coach,

608
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,759
it's f It just kind of is what it is.

609
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: It's a unique situation. Now, you know, obviously they have

610
00:30:05,839 --> 00:30:08,759
a great relationship. Like advance Joseph right now is the defense

611
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:11,000
coordinator for the Broncos. He was the head coach for

612
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:13,799
one year, got fired and they got the best defense

613
00:30:13,839 --> 00:30:18,880
in the NFL. So we've seen that happen before. Yeah,

614
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:19,920
I mean Patrino is a.

615
00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:22,119
Speaker 5: Bad example because Patrino's now the inter head.

616
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,519
Speaker 4: Coach advance didn't wasn't the head coach of the greatest NFL. Yeah,

617
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,599
I'm not saying that.

618
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,599
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like we've seen examples of guys being

619
00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:31,720
a head coach, being fired and coming back.

620
00:30:31,839 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 4: I think that I think they have probably have a

621
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,200
really good relationship. So I think that I think that

622
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,400
relationship would work out fine.

623
00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: I don't.

624
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,279
Speaker 4: It's about to find them in the right position, don't. Yeah,

625
00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:49,799
it's just assistant head coach. Yes, yeah, head of pregame speeches, and.

626
00:30:49,759 --> 00:30:51,599
Speaker 3: You're going to be in the defensive meetings, and you're

627
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,039
going to be you know, a recruiting and get everybody

628
00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:56,640
ready to go and talking to the media. Can you

629
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,000
imagine like head of recruiting, he wouldn't have to worry

630
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,119
about even coaching, just head of recruiting.

631
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: Right. So, like.

632
00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:09,079
Speaker 3: I'm telling you this defensive staff man, I want to

633
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,279
I want to try to keep as many of those

634
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:14,599
guys in place as you can. Even the running quarterback

635
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,079
stuff that a lot of people point out. If you

636
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,200
kind of read between some of the tweets out there,

637
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:21,839
there was some things I think that we're being told, Hey,

638
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,079
you got to do this defensively that once they've kind

639
00:31:25,079 --> 00:31:28,400
of been freed up. Think about what the defenses look

640
00:31:28,519 --> 00:31:31,440
like in those situations. Like even last week you played

641
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,640
like Western Kentucky's guy had run for a lot of yards.

642
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,799
Green To run for a lot of yards at Arkansas.

643
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,200
Even Ty Simpson and had some big runs at Alabama.

644
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,079
So even that's been cleaned up since you make a

645
00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:48,440
coaching change. So anyhow, you got a lot of guys.

646
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,599
You've got a lot of guys on that side of

647
00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:53,160
the ball that you got to try to retain bring back.

648
00:31:54,119 --> 00:31:56,000
I tell you create a great defense staff. And then

649
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:58,599
on the other side, I think it's you know, it's

650
00:31:58,599 --> 00:32:01,160
gonna be a it's gonna be a reset, certainly when

651
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,160
you're bringing in an offensive minded head coach.

652
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,759
Speaker 4: What I want to ask you about, and let's do

653
00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:09,839
this after the break, is what Jacob Hester would do

654
00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:13,880
in Lane Kiffin's shoes. Right now when I have to

655
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,079
make a decision on leaving a team, See what you

656
00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:18,559
think on that?

657
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:20,319
Speaker 5: All right, are you gonna give yours too?

658
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Speaker 2: Yeah? For sure.

659
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Speaker 5: The laundry you're gonna give yours.

660
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Speaker 2: And the repercussions, the fallout of them.

661
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Speaker 5: Oh, dude, if you want me to they tell you

662
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and give yours too.

663
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664
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Speaker 2: I forgot No, no, no, no, all right.

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Speaker 4: So Jacob Hester, you're the head coach of ole Miss,

711
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:22,559
butt your team in a historic run for Ole Miss.

712
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,079
You've been the head coach there for a good handful

713
00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:29,239
of years. I've really built that program up to a

714
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,519
place where it's nationally relevant. Actually playing for a national

715
00:35:33,559 --> 00:35:35,559
championship this year, with the opportunity to go and beat

716
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:39,280
your rival this week, I'm still not getting to it. Yeah,

717
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,320
let's still got a chance to get in a playoff.

718
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,639
You actually have a chance, Jake, to host a playoff game.

719
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Speaker 2: In Oxford.

720
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Speaker 4: But there's this, there's this it you've been wanting to

721
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,119
scratch for a long time. That's the l s U job.

722
00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:55,159
But it means that you got to leave your team

723
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,800
high and dry. You got to leave those young men

724
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,239
that you've been developing and molding and recruited and then

725
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,880
spent time with their families. You know their parents' names,

726
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,960
you know their brothers and sisters' names. Got a great

727
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,559
relationship to it. So what are you going to do?

728
00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:12,519
Are you going to leave them to take your dream job?

729
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,639
Even though the current place is offered to match. They

730
00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:21,119
said they wouldn't be outdid so they would match, all

731
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:24,480
the money, all the moneys are are you staying?

732
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Speaker 5: All right?

733
00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 3: So the meathead in me, which is like ninety percent

734
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,039
of me, it's saying, stay, I'm going to coach that team.

735
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,800
It's unfortunate the timing. I do want to go to

736
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,280
my dream job. Uh So, yeah, that portion of it.

737
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,880
And yeah, look you probably knew the answer. I think

738
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,480
that's why Matt asked the question. He wanted to hear

739
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,199
me say it, like I would coach that team for sure,

740
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:55,039
just what I would do. I've never been a coach

741
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,639
obviously anywhere close to this level, so I don't know

742
00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:00,639
the dream job eight.

743
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,119
Speaker 5: Tenu, sir, I don't know.

744
00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: We're getting up there in years.

745
00:37:06,559 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 3: So like that portion of it, So like it's hard

746
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,880
for me to answer it, Like again, what I would

747
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,599
do at Stay, y'all know me, but I'm not there

748
00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:17,920
every day, so I don't know if like okay, Like

749
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,480
in his mind he's like, dude, we're doing everything we

750
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:23,800
possibly can and we're still not getting even to Atlanta.

751
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:25,639
Still got a chance to win a championship. I don't

752
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:27,280
think they do, but they have a chance. And so

753
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,480
but they've still never been to Atlanta. They've still never

754
00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:33,960
gone to an SEC chair. The team that you say

755
00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:36,280
is not in the SEC, Missouri has gone to two

756
00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:40,320
and they've been in the conference for thirteen years. Texas

757
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:44,079
one year in and they went, so like, there's that

758
00:37:44,159 --> 00:37:47,039
portion of it too in his mind that I'm sure

759
00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:50,719
he's thinking, man, they went to an SEC championship game

760
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,440
under Brian Kelly and they you know, and they moved

761
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,800
on from the guy.

762
00:37:55,559 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 5: So I don't know what.

763
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 3: In his mind if he sees like the path for

764
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,679
success and how tapped out he thinks they are there,

765
00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:02,239
Maybe they're not.

766
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: I don't know.

767
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 5: Again, they still have a chance this year.

768
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,079
Speaker 3: They will make the CAST Football Playoff unless crazy things happen.

769
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:10,239
I get what you're saying, But that's the only thing

770
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,679
I can think is he's thinking, man, we've done all

771
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,199
of this, We've done all this great work.

772
00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:15,679
Speaker 5: We keep getting praise for all.

773
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 3: The things we've done here, and we still haven't even

774
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,079
played for the conference title.

775
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:33,639
Speaker 4: If you think, well, okay, so you're saying you would stay.

776
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 3: Just based off coaching the team and them having a chance, Yeah,

777
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,239
I think I would.

778
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 5: But again I do want to point out I don't

779
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,199
know what.

780
00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:43,079
Speaker 3: It's like to have a top tier dangling right there

781
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,400
for you. Like, as a player, I'm trying to think,

782
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,559
like what that compared to be.

783
00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 4: It would bother me that I would have to that

784
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:54,199
I'm gonna leave, leave to go play, to go take

785
00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:56,320
the job of a school that I got to play

786
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:05,599
every single year. That part would bother me, certainly. There's yeah,

787
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:08,480
there's zero percent chance that I would that I would

788
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:11,480
leave in like in a comparable situation. Of course, if

789
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:13,039
it was LSU and it was me Ould, I would

790
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:15,400
leave for anybody to go coach at LSU.

791
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 5: But anybody where home is for Lane Kiffen.

792
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 2: State.

793
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,039
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's would he would he played. So there's

794
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:27,039
Billy Bullock's back up.

795
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 4: You have to sit there and look those men in

796
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,800
the eye and say I'm leaving you before the playoffs start.

797
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,840
That enough alone, in itself would be enough to not

798
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,639
make me take a job somewhere else. Maybe not because

799
00:39:39,639 --> 00:39:41,480
I like what exactly I want, but how hard it

800
00:39:41,519 --> 00:39:45,519
would be to leave a situation like that, especially at

801
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:47,480
this time now if they had three or four losses, yeah,

802
00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:52,559
that's a completely different situation. And I mean I loved

803
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,360
what Nick Saban said on game day this past Weekend

804
00:39:55,559 --> 00:40:01,400
about he did say that it wasn't Alane Kiffen conundrum.

805
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,159
Speaker 2: I think was the word. It's a college football issue.

806
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 4: The timing of everything early signing day for high school

807
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,599
kids is dumb. It makes everybody have to rush and

808
00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:15,119
make these decisions. It makes coaches have to make these

809
00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:18,639
awful impossible decisions of leaving a team to take another job.

810
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,639
They shouldn't have to do that. Lane Kiffton should not

811
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,960
have to decide right now. Saban compared the NFL to

812
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,559
the college. In the NFL, you cannot leave a coaching

813
00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:31,719
job until your team season is over. It should be

814
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,239
the same thing in college football, and it's not. And

815
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,360
I know it's impossible to do that because of all

816
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,639
the schedules. Change the schedule. Somebody step up to the

817
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:43,480
plate and make college football makes sense. It is in

818
00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:48,119
such a foo bar state right now that a coach

819
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,960
that's coaching for a national championship with a group group

820
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,360
of young men eighteen to twenty three years old, he's

821
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,280
got to tell them by in the middle of their chase,

822
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,199
in the middle of what they built, because he's taken

823
00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:01,559
a better opportunity. No one can blame him for taking

824
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:05,400
a better opportunity, but the circumstance in which he has

825
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,440
to do it is crappy. It's awful, and it's college

826
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,880
football's fault. And yeah, you can blame him and say, well, coach,

827
00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:15,199
you know Lane Kiffin can't ever talk about loyalty again

828
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,920
if he if he decides to leave, you can't. You

829
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,400
can't say, oh, you got to be loyal to the team, player, X,

830
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,679
y Z, whatever it is. Well, the state of the

831
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,480
fou bar state of college football has forced.

832
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: Him to make this decision and it sucks.

833
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 4: Like I said, I would be ecstatic if he was

834
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,920
a coach at LSU, I would be upset at the situation.

835
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: I love the coach, I hate the circumstance. Yeah, that

836
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,360
part of it is completely fair.

837
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:53,519
Speaker 3: Same situations, looking at what the opportunity is and you

838
00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:56,360
have to you got to ask the tough question.

839
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 5: Do I go to a place that I think.

840
00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 3: My career and the players can can thrive potentially like

841
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,079
nothing's guaranteed by any means, or do we you know,

842
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:13,159
you stay here and like what is the ceiling?

843
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,599
Speaker 5: Like what truly is is this the ceiling? Does he

844
00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:17,119
feel like.

845
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 3: He has squeezed every ounce of juice that he possibly can.

846
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,119
Speaker 2: Who's the state you're playing for, destin?

847
00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:22,599
Speaker 5: I don't know.

848
00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:25,599
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I think that's a loser mentality if

849
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:29,000
you do. We're not there every day though, I mean,

850
00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:30,880
I agree with you, I agree. I'm saying we're not

851
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,000
there day in and day out.

852
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,039
Speaker 4: We haven't been there for We can't look at the

853
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:36,639
history of oh Miss because this isn't the same. College

854
00:42:36,639 --> 00:42:38,880
football is a different that era of college football. Look

855
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,960
at what they've done since he's been there. Say well,

856
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,840
we're gonna keep doing that. I'm doing this with a

857
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,079
quarterback that I got from what Paras State?

858
00:42:47,199 --> 00:42:50,039
Speaker 2: Fairris State? Doing all this with a Fair State quarterback?

859
00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:52,880
All right?

860
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 5: We gotta break more OTV when we come.

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Speaker 1: Back off the bench, all right.

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Speaker 1: Locked in on LSU Football twenty four to seven, you're

886
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listening to off the bench.

887
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Speaker 3: Sometimes, all right, welcome back in OTV hour number two.

888
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We're gonna certainly talk about the New Orleans Saints losing

889
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,440
to the Atlanta Falcons inside the Superdome.

890
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: Lucky game by them.

891
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 3: You got Devin snow Aka holding Mayo joining us at

892
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nine point fifteen as well. I gotta imagine Dev's gonna

893
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,320
have a lot to say about the game. Actually, so

894
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most of our two would be Saints falcons. We'll have

895
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weekend winners when we come back right at the top

896
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of the hour.

897
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Speaker 5: Goh, search long and far for some weekend winners.

898
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: No, you can find them, not locally. Not locally.

899
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:55,079
Speaker 7: I have one.

900
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Speaker 5: You gotta go, Okay, go one in mine? Okay, okay?

901
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, look forward to it.

902
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Speaker 5: Get some weekend losers.

903
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Speaker 7: I can't wait for Taylor's weekend loser.

904
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Speaker 5: Oh, Taylor's got a weekend loser.

905
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Speaker 7: I can't wait.

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, Leah, who ze got panthers? Forty nine ers?

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Speaker 7: What did you just what did you just do? Me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Ahead? What is Jim Carrey's.

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Speaker 7: Been very sometimes since I've seen those movies.

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Speaker 4: That Detective Match Lander was it was that the first

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one or the second one?

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Speaker 5: First watch Chikaka? What's the second One's white devil? White devil?

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Speaker 2: Ankle is einhorn horn is plunder to the face.

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