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your support. Still have a lot to get to on

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this election day. Seven four five, seven eleven ten. Email

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ispt at the Petecalnarshow dot com. I have a message

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from Dave who said your WBT news cast said Steven

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Mooreris supported Josh Stein. This is for the Concord mayor's race.

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I'm voting later today. Can you tell me how he

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supported Josh Stein. I'm trying to figure out if tax

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evasion is worse than supporting Stein's.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Hm, So I'm assuming that this was in the good

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notorial race. I don't remember the specifics, but it probably

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had to do with Mark Robinson being the Republican nominee

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and all of the scandal around Mark Robinson, and so

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maybe the mayor endorsed Josh Stein, I assure that's my

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that would be my guess, and that angered Republicans I

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would assume, okay. So one of the things I like

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to do whenever prepping for the the election day coverage

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and such, which, by the way, WBT will be uh

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covering the election results tonight at seven o'clock, Bo and

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Beth are going to be back in studio, and I

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think at some point I'll join them. I think all

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of the hosts will join at some point. So, but

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one of the things so in prepping, usually the weekend

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before the election, you know, and Christy knows this, that

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I block out the whole weekend and I do all

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I you know, I take all of the stuff that

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I've been compiling for the year, and you know, I

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put them all together. I make my you know, my

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prep sheets and stuff for the various races. Now, admittedly

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this year it's a little easier because there aren't a

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lot of races on the ballot, especially where I live.

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I'm in unincorporated Mecklenburg County, so I get to vote

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for a school board member, and I get to vote

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for or against the sales tax increase. And people have

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asked me. My view on the sales tax increase came

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up at the News and Bruis event. And I'm not

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telling anybody how to vote, Okay. I have been told

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how to vote by people for the better part of

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fifteen years, and I don't like I don't listen to

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people telling me how to vote. I will make my

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own mind up on that stuff. So I'm not trying

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to tell you how to vote, but I I will

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tell you I'm going to be voting against that sales

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tax increase. That's me. And so one of the things

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I like to do in making the prep sheets for

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the election is I go to sites of all sorts

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and I look at who they like.

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Speaker 2: Like.

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Speaker 1: For example, you can go to the Charlotte Observer. They

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have their list of endorsements and I will usually just

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pick the opposite of whoever there, or you know, you

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go to the local party website, go to the Democrat

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party website, go to the Republican party website, and they

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usually have a thing called the palm cards, which are

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what they hand out at the polling places, you know,

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for people to look at. And so I can take

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a palm card and then if it's the Democrats that

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are giving it to me. Chances are like, I'm voting

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against every one of your candidates. Thank you for the

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palm card. I appreciate that. But I only have two races,

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two things that I get to vote in, so I'm

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gonna be voting in like two seconds today. But one

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of the things I like to do is go to

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different publications that may be of a different political bent,

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let's say, and see how they are handicapping the races,

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how they are describing the candidates and such. And so

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I found myself at Queen City Nerve. And this is

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a leftist publication here in Charlotte. I believe it was

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the It was the remnants of Creative Loafing, that weekly

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newspaper that used to mainly be filled with like ads

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for like depraved behavior and such. So the I'm just

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kidding it. Well, I mean they did have a lot

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of ads in the back of the in the back

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of the paper, very weird things. But anyway, they remember,

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they shut down Creative Loafing and then a bunch of

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their employees started Queen City Nerve, and so they had

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a big election guide, very lengthy guide, and so real

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quick running through their guide. I'm not going to go

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over all of the stuff that they say, and they

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do not make endorsements explicit endorsements, but you can kind

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of tell who they like and who they don't by

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the way they describe some of the candidates. So, of course,

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in the mayor's race, we covered this last hour, you

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got Yliles running for her fifth term. And now I

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don't know this for sure, but I suspect that you

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get up to the fifth term, it's going to be

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pretty attractive enticing for if she were to win a

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fifth term. I think she's going to try to go

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and beat Pat McCrory's seven terms, you know, like when

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you rack up five in a row like she has

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or she made today. I think she may go for seven.

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don't know that. I'm not making that prediction. I'm just

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saying like that, it seems like that would be a

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bit of a pull, you know. Then you've got Rob

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Yates the libertarian and Terry Donovan. I've interviewed both of

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them on the program. You can go back to the

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podcast and listen to that interview with each of them.

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The Charlotte City Council at large. So this is everybody

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in the city gets to vote for the four at

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large seats dimple Edgemeira four term incumbent James Smudgie Mitchell.

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He's been on the council first as a District Rep

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and then an at large Rep. And he's been on

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there since, I mean twenty years. Lawana Slack Mayfield, she

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was District three for four terms, then was off the

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council for three years and then ran at large in

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twenty twenty two Victoria and so she's running at large

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reelection and then Victoria Watlington and also at large. She

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was a District three Rep as well. She won her

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seat two years ago at large. So those are the Democrats.

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Then you've got Misson Kim. Born and raised in South Korea,

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immigrated to America in nineteen ninety one. Small business owner

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proud supporter of Donald Trump, has spoken against allowing transgender

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folks to work as teachers or public service providers, criticized

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DEI initiatives, and appeers to oppose vaccines. She has recently

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shared the uplifting story of her son, who previously identified

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as gay. But wait, you don't wait a minute, You

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identify as a male or female. I don't think you

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get to identify as gay, do you. I thought that

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you're born that way. To quote the expert Lady Gaga, right,

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you just born that way. But he apparently underwent a

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significant transformation and disnow engaged to a woman. Then there's

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Edwin Peacock. I mentioned him last hour. He raised the

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most amount of money. He's a former city council member.

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He ran for mayor at one point, I believe, and

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he's been sitting in the District sixth seat filling the

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unexpired term of Tark Bokari. He's now running at large.

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Republicans have fielded only two candidates. You can vote for four,

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and the top four votainers of the six they will

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get seated on City Council Okay District three. Joy Mayo, Democrat,

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community advocate, former middle school math teacher who founded and

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serves as board chair for the Transforming Nations Forward, a

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community development nonprofit that advocates for the nation's Ford Arrowood

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Road corridor. Running against Robin Emmons, unaffiliated. She actually got

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the necessary signatures about fourteen hundred in order to get

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onto the ballot as an independent or unaffiliated and then

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the Republican James Bowers and captain in the Young Men

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of Valor Boys organizations, serve five years on the County

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Motor Vehicle Review Board. He's been a minister since nineteen

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ninety seven. Then Charlotte City Council District six. Kimberly Owens

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practiced law. Advocates for causes she believes in through Mom's

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Demand Action, the Gungraby Group, as well as Planned Parenthood,

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Rotary Youth Exchange and Lillian's List Action Fund. So very

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much for the abortions, okay, and the grabbing of the guns.

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Christo Baccari, Republican, running for the seat that her husband

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Tark Bakari held for a very long time. So that's

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on the city council. You have the sales tax referendum.

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Current sales tax in Mecklinberg County is seven and a

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quarter percent. They want to raise it to eight and

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a quarter percent. I've done shows on this before. You

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can pull them up on the Peak podcast Board of

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ED Now this one is interesting. The Charlotte Mecklenburg School

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Board has three at large members. They are not up

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for reelection. The six district members are okay, and so

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in District one, you've got Melissa Easley, Bill Fountain, and

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Charlita Hatch, three people running for that seat. And this

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It is a strategy. It basically gives a little bit

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like one point one percent, Like if a vote is one,

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it's like one point one. It gives a little bit

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of an edge to your preferred candidate by single shotting

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or shooting I guess, or double shot. If there are

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two Republicans and you only want Republicans, just give them

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your votes. Don't add to the vote totals of the Democrats.

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I've seen studies over the years about the effectiveness of

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these types of campaigns. They can work, but it has

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to be like a widespread, concerted effort, you know. But yeah,

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that is a that is a strategy. It's called single shot,

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all right. So the Board of Education District one race

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from WFAE, their report by James Ferrell. This from October

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twenty third. Melissa Easily says she's the incumbent, by the way, Democrat,

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but you're not going to see ds and rs next

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to their names because they're non partisan. Easily says she

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was hurt that the Mecklenberg County Democrats chose to endorse

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her opponent. One of the opponents, Charlita Hatch, Easily says

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she's been told that the decision stemmed from concerns about

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her fundraising. She acknowledges recently that she stirred controversy with

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the post about the murdered conservative activist Charlie Kirk that

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drew national attention. We discussed that as well when she

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said I'm not going to mourn his loss because he

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was a terrible person, and then she gave some examples

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of things that he never said, and I dissected her

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dumassary at the time. She also has a track record,

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though of voting in the minority against the board consensus,

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like when she voted against last year's budget because she

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felt the board needed to ask for more money from

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Mecklemburg County. Charlia Hatch has had no problem raising funds.

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Campaign finance records show that she has raised nearly forty

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five thousand dollars compared to Easley's Measley seventeen hundred. The

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Republican back candidate Bill Fountain, he is self financing, basically

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put twenty grand of his own money into the race,

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and he thinks that if you got two Democrats, they

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could split that vote and then he may be able

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to get in. And he points out that twenty percent

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of CMS grads have less than a two point zero GPA.

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Like we're we're not actually educating the kids. Hatch is

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the City of Charlotte's chief data and analytics officer. She

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is also the founder of a nonprofit and the author

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of three children's books. Now, what makes this race interesting

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is that last spring, Easily was one of three board

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members who voted against a contract with a consulting firm

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called syd k Imyl, which is a terrible name. Sid Kimmel,

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I guess is the acronym. She questioned the firm's efficacy

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and its connections to Racky McGregor or Rocky Raki. Racky McGregor,

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who was a close advisor to the superintendent and was

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getting this contract. Sid Kimmel is owned by Racky's wife,

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Kimberly McGregor. The mcgregors and cms have defended Sid Kimmel,

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their contractor or their company that's getting the contracts by

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pointing to recent academic gains across ten of the twelve

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schools where they worked, but racky McGregor went on to

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publicly support Charlietta Hatch, which then prompted questions of whether

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he was c making political payback. McGregor has denied this. Hatch,

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for her part, takes exception to any notion that McGregor

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played a role in her decision to run. And so

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when people started saying this, Easily started saying this, the

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McGregor's confirmed that they sent a cease and desist letter

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to both Easily and another school board candidate in a

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different district, District six, named Tony mhl m Hel m

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e m e E m e h e l Emma

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m Hel. That's just a very difficult last name. And

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I say that as one with the last name Calender,

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Okay mhl. So they both got cease and desist letters

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regarding what they saw the McGregor saw as false in

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defamatory statements about them and their companies on the campaign trail.

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They say the actions were taken to protect them and

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their business's long standing reputations. So there appears to be

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some politicking afoot, and there are these accusations that the

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superintendent is trying to oust board members that don't fall

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in line with what she wants done. So that's District one.

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the local elections, You'll never guess how they describe the

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Republican running in that district, Bill Fountain. If you guessed

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homophobic and transphobic, then yes, that's in their write up.

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When describing the Board of Education, can that it's District one.

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Bill Fountain, Republican, a former combat fighter pilot teacher committed

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to upholding quote the American principles that make opportunity possible.

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I guess I should probably do this. No how dare

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you right? Okay, So they go on to say that

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Fountain supports the homophobic and transphobic organization Protect North Carolina Kids.

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He held a sign that read stop Mutilating Miners in

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a protest against trans healthcare for youth patients and posted

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it to his Facebook page and his website. So that's

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what makes you homophobic and transphobic is that you don't

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believe in transing the miners. Okay, that's again, it's it's

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Queen City nerve. And then there's Charlie the Hatch, CMS

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graduate mother, children's book author, tech executive works for the

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city apparently. So that's the District one race District two

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for the Board of ed je Rique Hall or one Hall.

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After twelve years, the Board of Education's longest serving member,

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Thelma Buyers Bailey, is not running for reelection, so District

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two is going to have a new rep. Juan Rique

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Hall is a former West Charlotte High School football coach

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and community advocate who works to mentor young people on

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violence prevention, joining the city's first Alternatives to Violence program

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in twenty twenty one. His mission is to combat illiteracy,

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restore discipline, and rebuild trust. In public schools. Okay. Hall

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is also known to partner with Moms for Liberty. No

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QC Nerve describes Moms for Liberty as quote an extremist

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group that lobbies against any school curricula that mentions lgb

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t Q plus rights, race, or diversity. And that is

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not true. That's actually not true. They don't want you

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promoting any of this sexually inappropriate content at any age.

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That's you too young. Whether it's gay or straight, it

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doesn't matter. They don't want you teaching to second graders

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this inappropriate material age appropriate standards. We used to as

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a society, we used to all understand that there are

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things that are not age appropriate. And if you don't

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understand that, then you should not be in public schools.

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You should not have anything to do with public schools,

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public education. You shouldn't be in the education field at all,

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in my opinion, if you don't understand that concept that

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there are age appropriate things and there are age inappropriate things. Okay,

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so Wan Hall running against Chemey Shame. Chammee Chamee Haines

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a CMS mother advocate and community organizer with a deep

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commitment to cultivating equity, opportunity, and belonging in Charlotte Mecklenburg Schools.

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She served as a board member of the Black Political Caucus,

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League of Women Voters, and the Charlotte Alliance of Black Accountants.

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So if you're with the BPC, I'm assuming the Black

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Political Caucus, I know your politics there. She's the Democrat

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over in District four. Robert Edwards uh more than twenty

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years of experience in K twelve education, higher education, and

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behavioral health. He began teaching music and mentoring at risk

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youth when he was twenty two. He joined the CMS

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residency program in twenty twenty three, focusing on special ed

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and currently serves as a teacher for Exceptional Children in CMS,

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as well as a compliance facilitator at Cochrane Collegiate Academy.

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He is running against Jillian King, a former teacher current homemaker.

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She is endorsed by the Democratic Municipal Officials as well

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as Mom's Demand Action Gun Control Group. The incumbent in

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District four is Stephanie Snead. She is the CMS board

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chair and she is running for reelection. She was first

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elected in twenty twenty two. CMS parent a trial attorney

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practicing in the areas of labor and employment law, and

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she has served on the Black Political Caucus Education Committee Democrat. Okay,

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Then there's District five Lisa Kline. She is the incumbent.

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She is a Republican as I understand it, and she

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is running for reelection thirty nine years of education experience,

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twenty nine of those being at CMS before retiring in

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twenty nineteen. Her opponent, Cynthia Stone, born and raised in Charlotte,

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began a career in education in two thousand and five

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at Chantilly Montessori School until her retirement in twenty twenty

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three from Park Road Montessori District six. Tony emmahl or mhl. Sorry,

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I do not know how to pronounce this last. I'm trying.

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I really am CMS grad parent and volunteer. Twenty years

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of experience with CMS as a school and team leader, parent, teacher,

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organization board officer, tutor, booster, club board officer. Endorsed by

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the Democrat Mecklenberg County Commissioner Vilma Leak, as well as

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Republican former Governor Pat McCrory. Running against two people, Anna London,

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who is president and CEO of Charlotte Works, the state's

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largest single county Workforce Board and Justin Sheeley, an attorney

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and parent who has grown increasingly concerned about the issues

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CMS faces, including declining safety, politics, taking precedence over academics,

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and a lack of transparency. Okay, so those are your

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CMS candidates. These are the district races. The at large

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races not on the ballot. There are other races though,

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that we will not be voting on here in Charlotte

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or in Mecklenburg. Obviously, there were races all over the area,

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all over the state. These were all municipal races. I mean,

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you've got Cornelius mayor Border commissioners, Davidson mayor border commissioners,

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Huntersville mayor commissioners, So you've got these are all municipal races, right,

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Mayor of Matthews, mint Hill, Pineville Stallings. Also, I was

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a moderator for a debate last weekend. I want to

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say last weekend. I think it was last weekend, an

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Indian trail dealing with all sorts of you know, pressures

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due to growth and how to manage the growth and

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all of that. So municipal races all over the place,

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and in low turnout races, your vote matters even more

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because it is a low turnout election. Generally, these off

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year municipal races generally don't attract more than about ten

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percent turnout, which means you have more power to actually

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influence and that's what decides elections and the course of

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your local government. It's you turning out to vote, all right.

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If you're listening to this show, you know I try

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jump over here and get Carol onto the program. Hello, Carol, welcome.

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Speaker 2: Hello, good afternoon. Hey. I live an Indian trail and

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you know what, there's been no canvassing that I haven't

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even seen any signs up, so like, I don't know

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who to vote for, but I want to vote, but

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I don't even know what's like who's running or anything.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well there's only so you have seven candidates

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an Indian trail and two seats available I believe, so

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the top two votainers will will win the seats. There's

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one incumbent that's Tom Ambergee. He was not at the

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candidate forum that I moderated the other day, so I

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don't know. I know he's a local attorney practices law.

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I've seen his name pop up in stories over the years.

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And then there was another candidate, Jerrell Sengandhi, and he

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was not there either, so I don't know anything about

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him either. So is there anybody like, are you satisfied

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with the direction of your town?

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Speaker 2: Well, heck no, Indian Trail. I've been here twenty one years.

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I've lived in five different houses in Indian Trail, but

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never left Indian Trail. And it's just it's just absurd

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of what's going on and the traffic. They're they're not

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building things the way. It's like they just built these

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huge apartments by my house and they should have put

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a roundabout in before. So there's and some several accidents.

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They finally put a four way stop and there was

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an accident there yesterday. There's just too much traffic there

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and it's like they don't know how to build a town.

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I don't know. I don't know. It was a small

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town when I moved here, that's why we think that.

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And now it's just it's just a crazy town. So

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I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and from what I heard and from what

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I heard in the candidate forum is a big problem

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is union County commissioners and the capacity issues with like

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the water treatment and that sort of stuff. There's this

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fight going on, but I mean, and there's also I

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mean the town is limited in what it can do

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because it doesn't control the the wastewater hookups and stuff, right,

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the water system. But also people want to keep the

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taxes low and they don't want there to be any

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more development. But it's a heavily residential tax base, right,

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so like these are.

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Speaker 2: The property taxes were ridiculous when we got when we.

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Speaker 1: Got our revent out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my gosh. I mean my house is you know,

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I wish my house is worth it, but it's not.

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It's not some big, gigantic house. You know. It's about

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seventeen hundred square feet. You know, it's just a nice

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size house. And I'm just like, well, if I had

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the place to move to, yeah, I would sell it

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and try and get some of that. But you know,

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there's nowhere to go. You can sell, but there's nowhere

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really to go.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean unless you want to go more rural, right,

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But if you if your job allows you that, then

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then you have more options. But I mean that's one

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of the problems I ran into with my wife when

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we were moving back here, Like I don't want to

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spend an hour and a half in the car each way,

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you know, on a commute. Uh, and in order to

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afford cheaper housing, you got to go farther out and

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that's and then you're yeah, then you're trading chunks of

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your life for you know, on the commute. So yeah,

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I mean it's all trade offs. I know there are

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a couple of young guys that are running Raven Farity,

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Sean Madison. They were there in their early twenties, so yeah, yeah,

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I don't know. Marcus McIntyre. He apparently was a former

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board member, town council member who was off the council

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and now is coming back on. He seemed pretty impressive.

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But I mean, I can't make any endorsement for you

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because I don't know like what your major issues are

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and how well of the candidates line up. But you can,

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I mean, you still have time. You can go to

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their websites and read what they are writing. But I

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mean that the challenges that you've got in Indian Trails

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sound a lot like every small town that I've ever

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covered dealing with growth. They're the same issues.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, and you know what it would be

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one these houses, but they're just building these massive, massive

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apartment complexes. I live right in basically the center of

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it where in the Atrail Fairby wrote an independence. You know,

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I'm a mile from the post office and they have

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just old so many apartments. I'm like, why can't read

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just do houses. I know they want to growth, but

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you're literally talking about now thousands of people. Yeah, and

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they don't have the roads for it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I hear you, Carol. I appreciate the call.

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I wish I could be more helpful. I've got to

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run though. Good luck on your research. All right, that'll

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