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Speaker 2: Right after that?

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Speaker 3: From Hatchet act from and then I'll say, you're listening right?

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Speaker 4: Sounds good.

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Speaker 3: This is Jesse Rutstein and oh ah, this is why

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I'm the leader. This is Jesse Rutstein and Caleb Dyer

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Speaker 3: This is Jesse Rutstein and Caleb Dyer from Hatchet Axon

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Saw Records. You are listening to Matt Connorton Unleashed on

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ninety five to three w NA. Dude, this is Jesse

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Rutstein and Caleb Dyer from Hatchet Axon Saw Records. You

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Speaker 5: Mattso wakes up in the morning.

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Speaker 6: He gets into the shower and to the top of

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Speaker 2: I do what I want because I can't him.

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Speaker 7: Now. All the best and.

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Speaker 2: Jammy Thanks Jerry, Welcome back everybody. We have entered our

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number two New Marow dose of Matt Connorton Unleashed. We

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you are listening live today is Saturday August two, twenty

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twenty five. In just a moment, Jamie Higgs is going

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to be joining us via WhatsApp all the way from

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the UK, and I'm really looking forward to talking with

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him because I love this song. We did the American

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radio premiere for this recently and we're gonna play it again.

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This is such a great track from Jamie Higgs. This

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is called peace in Your Sound.

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Speaker 5: All this live seems I can song.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes it's loud, caddy, what's going in all?

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Speaker 5: So calm me skinn bad?

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Speaker 1: What p say?

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Speaker 5: You sound the inside so it's like can a joke?

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Were nevis? Men don't beat no strange eyes singing my

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d and see me high up highest men. When he

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sign sign found B sing you sound and round, it's

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like your song.

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Speaker 8: As me high round that high stound.

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Speaker 5: B sing a sound and round it's.

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Speaker 1: Like your song as me.

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Speaker 9: I on the crown ever beside a round the say

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loud b saying you side shin.

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Speaker 10: Shine So do you get it?

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Speaker 5: Stay? It's like a magic out of the high you

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bulling rabbit feel in the sky. He's just so majestic.

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Used to beer sound east side side found be sing

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you sound and round.

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Speaker 11: It's like your song as Me I grown that found

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piecing your sound and round.

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Speaker 5: It's like your song as me eye off the growl

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every time.

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Speaker 9: Around the same loud u p s inside sound shud.

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Speaker 5: Found piecing your soul and you round.

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Speaker 11: It's like your song as Me high off the growling

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up BC.

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Speaker 12: So many round.

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Speaker 6: It's like your song is me high off the crowd

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every time you roll sing loud pc sun.

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Speaker 2: I love that song so much. That is piece in

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your sound. That is Jamie Higgs, and I believe we

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have Jamie Higgs with us via WhatsApp. Jamie, are you there?

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Speaker 4: Hi am indeed tms Hey.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the program. I've been really looking forward to

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talking with you. I do love that song so much.

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The first time I listened to it, it was stuck

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in my head just I could not could not get

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it out of my brain. Jenny Loves it too. What

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a what a great track that is. Congratulations on that.

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Is that your newest single?

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Speaker 4: Well, firstly, thank you very much to really appreciate that feedback. Yeah,

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it was nice to hear. And yet that's our latest release.

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in two years, okay, and it's only asked like my

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personal second ever single and it's our face as a band.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay.

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Speaker 4: It's like a new beginning, right right.

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that song only took twenty minutes to write, like it

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like three chords. It literally just I think I was

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the melody, even they had a lot more complex complex

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line of piecing your sound and.

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and I just had to finish writing this song. And

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lyrics we got in the car, and then I made

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the voice notes singing like the full track as a melody,

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just tack upellade in the car and I was like

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that when when it's when it's easy, right, when it

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then you know you've got something really good because you

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coming up with something like that. No, it's it's really good.

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Speaker 4: And thank you very much.

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terms of the the chords, and you know what they say,

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three chords and the truth. But but what you take

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and then do with that, that's what counts. And I

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us a little bit about the lyrics. It seems like

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it's kind of about finding like sort of finding peace

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in the chaos of life. That's sort of what I

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took from it. Am I am, I on the right.

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Speaker 4: Track, absolutely right. Yeah. So it's so I'm married with

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two kids, which is chaos in itself, and then obviously

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a gig like three or four nights a week, and

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the music scene is very chaotic. Yeah, so I found

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then obviously with your friends and your social life, I

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just found life is very loud and chaotic all the time,

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it seems, yes, and sometimes it can kind of get

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minute to breathe. And then in the moment of writing

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that song, I was like, I love my life even

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though it's very crazy and loud. It's amazing. I'm surrounded

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by amazing people. I loved me job of singing. I

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was like my pieces in the sound because I know

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people who don't have a lot going on for themselves

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actually struggle with depression and everything else. So it's actually

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being busy and having a loud life that's where the

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Speaker 13: So it's kind of based around that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I like that. That really connects with me,

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and I think that's something too that's relatable for a

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lot of people. You know, even if you have you know,

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good things that you have. And you know, and you know,

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and yeah, you know, but it but it really is important,

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and you know, and to be able to find piece

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in the chaos. And no, I love that song. It's

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very very catchy too, are you. I'm curious about your

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influences because obviously, like I think a little bit about Oasis,

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when I hear that song, that sounds like something that

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might have been might have fit well on definitely maybe

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for example, I'm a big Oasis fan. But I'm curious

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to know more about your influences. I assume you've taken

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something from the Gallagher brothers, but but probably a lot

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more than that too, So I'm curious about your influences.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think as a guitarist ever and as

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similar sort of influencers. So when you think like singer songwriter,

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so you've got like your sor you Bob Dylan's and

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your Bruce Springsteen's and even like more modern times with

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considered a lot more pop. But if you played guitar

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in the last decade, you've took inspiration from Edgi and yes, sure.

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not sure how big David Gray is in America, but

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he's done an album called The White lad Album.

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big British band. Then you've got obviously your Oasist and

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Beatles and everyone else. And I think I've tried to

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lyrics but put it with like a sort of indie

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pop music that's right, and try and made them too.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense.

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Speaker 4: I think I have to give like, for this song,

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we have to give big credit to my guitarist, Eddie Ponting,

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because I loved what I wrote and I loved the song,

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but because of the simplicity of it, I couldn't seem to.

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Speaker 13: Fall in love with it, if that makes sense.

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he just does not riff that down down.

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Speaker 13: And when he done that, it was like love. A

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Speaker 4: As soon as he'd done that, I was like, that's

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what makes the song. That's what gives it like the

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full feel. That's what's going to help sell it. So

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that was a big part of the inspiration for the song.

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Speaker 2: Is I was also reading that you you started guitar

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playing kind of lay you know, in contrast with most people,

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I mean, there is no right age to Obviously, the

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younger you are, the more you know. In terms of research,

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they say that the brain can absorb information quicker when

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you're younger. So if you start an instrument, just like

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learning a language. The younger you start, the better in theory,

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I like you, Matt, You've done you like this?

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Speaker 2: Oh I try, I try.

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Speaker 13: You know it's good though, I like it.

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Speaker 2: What was it that made you start at nineteen? What

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was it that inspired you to to start learning guitar?

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Speaker 4: I'd met a couple of new friends at like eighteen,

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I got me faced job, I was wearing the suits.

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into different genres of music and just different things in

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life in general. And we would at a house party

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that that line again of the face sight. When I

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sounds amazing. So then I just kind of saw His

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name was Michael Hilton. He always moans that I don't

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mention him, Okay, so give him his little showers.

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Speaker 13: Hell, but yeah, just something about it.

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Speaker 4: I'd never really grew up around that type of music,

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so I always joke saying I grew up in like

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a ghetto, so it was like I didn't see a

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lot of it, and then once a kind of discovered it,

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I just loved it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I assume, because it sounds like you were pretty motivated,

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like once you started, once you started learning, did you

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learn quickly?

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Speaker 4: Did it did it come with it become like an addiction?

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Speaker 13: It become like I just I love doing it. I

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don't even know why.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe maybe it was escapism.

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Speaker 13: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It was just something to bury into. And I'm not

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I'm not an overly emotional person, okay, but with the guitar,

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with the with the guitar, and we right, and it's

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like that's my way of getting it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely, because I think a lot of creative people.

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I think you know, and obviously we talk to creative

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people all the time on the show, and I think

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that we tend to When I say we, I mean

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we who are are creative in some way. I think

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that's that is how we tend to express ourselves and

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and maybe some of us, maybe not, might not be

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so good at expressing or emoting you know, emotions and

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feelings just in our everyday lives in terms of dealing

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with people interpersonally. But it comes out through our art.

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That's that's where we tend to channel it, channel it through.

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So that makes a lot of sense. And you know,

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I use the word therapy, I mean music, you know,

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creating anything, whether it's music or visual art or whatever

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it is that you're creating. I think that is the

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best therapy because that's a way to kind of work

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things out and express things and and you know, kind

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of show everyone what you're feeling and what you're thinking.

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Speaker 4: And and then yeah, that's the beauty of art, isn't

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it matter? Like you just hit the nail on the

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head as you say, It's an expression, isn't it? And

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the beauty of art is I can express someone and

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say a song form and people are listening to it

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and they'll tee they don'twn expression out of it.

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Speaker 13: Yes, It's like that's what kind of makes art cool. Yeah,

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So I definitely love that side, and.

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Speaker 4: It's something when I face come into I never really

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considered that. I've just done it sort of naturally, and

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then over the years you just kind of learn these

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things that you learn about yourself through your song writing,

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because I always say, when you start writing the song,

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you might have an idea or an emotional or something,

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but you have no idea what's about to come out, right,

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You don't have no idea what you're about to write.

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And then like with Piecing Sound, I come out of

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no Ways twenty minute Lays some Saturday with this song

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that went on to become what I sort of classes

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are face Release. Yes, you just you have no idea

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that that's where it's going. And that's what I love

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about it. It's creating something out and nothing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of an adventure. You don't know how

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it's going to end up. And when you bring when

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you bring other people to into the process, like your

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guitar player, who who came up with that that riff

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that is so that is so central to that song,

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and then it's like, wow, Okay, I didn't I wasn't

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expecting that, but it's it's amazing and that that you know,

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that really helps.

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Speaker 15: You so.

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Speaker 4: Helps massively, not just in the same terms of like,

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so the creation of the song then becomes big, bigger

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and better because there's more influence. But also from a

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personal point of view, when it comes to performing the

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song or talking about the song, I don't have as

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much ego because I know it's not all me. Sure

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in the past, when you talk about your music, you

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always feel a bit egotistical talking about your art because oh,

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it's it's all me and look how good I am

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and all that.

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Speaker 13: It just comes across the bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, it just comes across a bit ego. But

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because all the band have helped and shape the song,

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I feel like I can perform it and talk about

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it with less weight. It's like it's more freeom That

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makes sense. Yeah, And I enjoy that side of it.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense. It sounds like collaboration is very important

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to you.

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Speaker 13: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, am I am I right about that? Is it?

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Is it really important? Because you know some artists. To

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some artists it's kind of the opposite. Some don't want

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to let anybody in, you know what I mean, And

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and that that's fine too. You know somebody who just

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says a solo acoustic thing, for example, and maybe they

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don't want to work with other people. Maybe they just

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want to write their songs and play their songs and

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that's it. But it sounds like to you collaboration is

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really important.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a balance. For me, I think, well

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that's where it. Obviously life changes constantly and so does

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your mindset. But for me at the minute, it's a balance.

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So I love having the final say. I I'd admit

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that I like being the one who says that works,

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that doesn't.

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Speaker 13: I do like having that sort of control.

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Speaker 4: If you will.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: But I also love saying to the lads, I don't

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want to tell you what to play.

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Speaker 4: Just feel the music, feel emotion. And they'll be playing

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something and I'll say no, to be honest, they don't

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like that, or you'll do something to go, wow, play

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that again, can you maybe change it a little bit?

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Or and it's collaborating, like you say, it's working together yeah,

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or I do like to try and have the last

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say what I think is the best sound or.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: It's a balance balance on act.

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Speaker 2: So I'm curious about the band dynamic because you you know,

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online you basically you know, you sort of prevent present

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I should say as a as a solo artist. But

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but you have a band that that records with you

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and and uh and plays live shows with you. I assume, right,

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And I assume it's the same people in the studio

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who also play with you live.

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Speaker 4: Yes and no, So we do. We do have a

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set band, but it's already changed twice. Oh and we've

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only been We've only been going like three months. So

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part of the reason sticking with the Jamie Higgs is

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my name in Liverpool was doing well at the time.

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I think Me and Me Instagram was getting like nearly

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half a million views a month, So it didn't make

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sense to change the name at the time, right right,

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because you'd lose lose that momentum.

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Speaker 13: And then I think over the last.

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Speaker 4: Few months it kind of seems like a good decision

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because we've been changing band members and stuff. I really

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want a band name. I just wanted to be a

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step band. So we're everyone's invested in it. Where at

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the minute it's a it's a little bit up than that.

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Speaker 13: But we're doing good.

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Speaker 4: But we're all great players.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's just everyone's very busy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we're just I think the idea is to

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get like seven band members, and there'll always be someone

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who can't can't make it until we get until we

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get to a point where people don't want to miss out.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: I always hate talking about this side. It was the

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side of the music and people don't really expose. But

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once you've made it, everyone obviously wants to be involved

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climbing up that climbing up that ladder. It's it's obviously

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harder to get people to commit two nights a week

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and traveling to places where you're not going to make

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much money, probably going to cost more money to go

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and play the gig dinner is to make. So it's

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trying to find that level of quality players and commitment.

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I think that's the hardest bit of the bond industry.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know that pain. I don't play anymore,

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but I've played in a lot of bands and over

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the years, and yeah, the hardest part to me is

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exactly what you described. It's like, you know, if you're

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in a band with three other people or four other people,

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and it's you know, everybody's got a different level. You know,

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hopefully the levels are close, but everyone has their own

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level of commitment that they're able to bring or willing

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to bring, and maybe different goals and aspirations you might have.

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You know, you might have someone in the band who says,

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I want to take this as far as it can

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possibly go, and you might have someone else in the

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band who feels more like, no, this is a hobby

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for me. I know, I know this isn't going anywhere.

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I'm just doing this for fun. You know, there's all

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kinds of dynamics that can play there, and that can

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be really challenging trying to navigate that, especially when not

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everyone's moving in the same direction, and there's also drama

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that can happen too. But what I think a lot

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of people don't realize is, you know, for it not

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to work out, it doesn't have to be about drama.

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It's not always about drama. Sometimes it's just a matter

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of different people have different priorities, and yeah, that can

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be really hard.

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Speaker 4: No, absolutely, like you sum that up very well there,

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And just as an example, so we had a bit

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of a band meeting and a rehearsal on Wednesday, and

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we address the issues then and there's absolutely zero bad

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feeling in the band. Everyone understands what I was saying. Yeah,

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I love every I love everyone except some of them.

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Speaker 13: At the time.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate everyone's time and effort up to this point,

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I was like, oh, I kind of need more.

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Speaker 13: And that's not a knock on anyone, even from yourself.

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Speaker 4: You've got a demand more from yourself and everyone around you.

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Speaker 13: That's the only way to keep pushing up.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: And I said to the lads, what I'm going to

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do is, because I didn't want to do it behind

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anyone's back, is I'm going to get a few new

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band members into trials. Because it doesn't mean anyone's going

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to be pushed out as I but it's kind of

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my way. I'm putting a bit of pressure on your

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toes to see how you react. And if someone else

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comes in who was willing to push more, then that's

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when it might be thanks for your time, but someone

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else is willing to do more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And it's just it sounds like a brutal side of it,

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but again, there was no bad feelings. Everyone understood. Everyone

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was still happy, and that's good it was. It was

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just a conversation that needs to be hard because I

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love where we've got to for now. But obviously I'm pushing.

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I mean, I'd love to be number one in the

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world at some point. I'm not saying I'll ever be there,

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but if you don't push for that, then you're never

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going to get as high as you can.

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Speaker 2: Right, Right exactly? Did you have anxiety going into that?

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Because that would be that that's the kind of thing

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that would would make me nerve, like, because I'm the

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kind of person, whether it's personally or professionally, I dread

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having to risk hurting anyone's feelings. I I and and

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you know, obviously you go into it not with the

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idea that it's a confrontation but just a very mature

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You're going to express this in a mature, professional manner

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and with positivity. But you did. There's that little thing

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there where you don't know how everyone's going to necessarily react. Right,

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I would be anxious doing that? Were you anxious doing that?

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Speaker 4: I suppose I understand what you're saying. And it wasn't

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like a conversation I was looking forward to. It wasn't

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something that I was excited excited about doing well. I wasn't.

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I wasn't dreading it because I thought it was a

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conversation that needed to be had. So it was like,

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like I've always played football or soccer, as you might say,

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I've always played that in my whole life. So I

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use it as a conference, a confidence, I use it

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as a constant reference point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So playing football, I was the captain for my team

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for like ten years, So there's loads of times when

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00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:12,279
we had to have serious conversations, and there's times when

478
00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:15,720
you have to question people's commitment levels.

479
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 13: And output levels. And it's not a slight at anyone.

480
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 4: It's not trying to put anyone down. It's demand them more.

481
00:25:24,079 --> 00:25:27,960
And I unfortunately, like music is a business and it's

482
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,920
something that you want to achieve it and be successful

483
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,200
as much as it's fun and we enjoy it and

484
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,559
we love it. I want to play to the biggest

485
00:25:35,559 --> 00:25:39,359
crowds and to the biggest radio stations in the world

486
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,440
if we can, right, And the only way to sort

487
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,160
of have that ambition in his eyes, is to demand

488
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,920
more of myself and everyone else around me. So it

489
00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:49,240
was just one of them conversations I felt needed to

490
00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:52,799
be had. I've done it in the best way I could,

491
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,599
for sure, calm and as pleasurable as you can make it.

492
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,559
And I think the lads took it well. Everyone was

493
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,640
understood what I was saying, and yeah, everyone was happy.

494
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:09,160
We still then jammed and enjoyed our session. And yeah

495
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,680
we'll just I said to them, in two weeks time,

496
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,079
it could still be all us and everyone's just leveled

497
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,000
up and so what I've said on board, but we

498
00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:19,920
could have a different druma or a different guitar.

499
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 13: I don't know, but it was just something that needed

500
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:23,640
to happen.

501
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like your background too as a team

502
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,200
captain really uh really helps you out there. You know.

503
00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:33,039
It's it's funny too because it's not something that someone

504
00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:38,480
would necessarily expect would translate, but you know that having

505
00:26:38,519 --> 00:26:41,119
that skill set. But but but it clearly does and

506
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,519
that's that's great. But it makes sense too because this

507
00:26:44,599 --> 00:26:47,000
is a very you know, the music industry is very competitive.

508
00:26:47,079 --> 00:26:49,160
You know, sports is competitive and the music industry is

509
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,000
very competitive.

510
00:26:50,079 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 4: And you know, not one hundred percent agree with you.

511
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,759
I actually had this little conversation to myself, like going

512
00:26:56,759 --> 00:26:59,160
into Wednesday night, so I was like, I never thought

513
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,440
like the football stuff with translations to the music stuff

514
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,000
as much because in my head, I keep saying I'm

515
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,680
trying to build a team of like photographers videographers. So

516
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,200
we've got like the Piece and Love project with a

517
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,640
project based on the purely do loads of videography and

518
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,400
photography for artists, and we have them helping us outloads.

519
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,559
And we've got Liam Gerrards and Louis Neighbor who's helping

520
00:27:23,599 --> 00:27:25,319
like manage and promoters at the minute.

521
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,599
Speaker 13: And then there's.

522
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 4: People he knows like Shell and Lee and stuff like that,

523
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,680
and then Gary from the PR team who's probably organized this.

524
00:27:34,839 --> 00:27:38,039
Like we've had loads of people helping us, and that's

525
00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:40,680
what I love. And like, maybe you're right when you're

526
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,039
saying earlier about the collaboration stuff. I know for a

527
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,079
fact I couldn't achieve it on my own. Yeah, there's no,

528
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,119
There's absolutely zero way. So I'm trying to build a

529
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,440
big team and a good team who all want to

530
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,680
achieve something.

531
00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah exactly.

532
00:27:57,319 --> 00:27:59,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd say it's just funny how to translate through

533
00:27:59,839 --> 00:28:01,559
the fotball Beau. Obviously you want to win your league,

534
00:28:01,599 --> 00:28:04,319
you want to win the cup or if it all

535
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,799
comes in with the drive and yeah the winner mentality.

536
00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah exactly. Uh no, no, So what's kind of

537
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,160
the future, So speaking of that. So what's what's the

538
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,319
future uh trajectory here? What's what's your plan? Because you

539
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:22,039
obviously you approach this uh seriously and and I assume

540
00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:25,519
that you've got strategies and so forth in terms of

541
00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:27,960
how you're proceeding. You're you're you're clearly not someone who

542
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,079
just throws it all against the wall and sees what sticks,

543
00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:32,240
which is what a lot of musicians do, which is

544
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,279
which is fine. But but I sense that you've probably

545
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,440
got a pretty clear strategy going forward.

546
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I do, But I get I think it's

547
00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:44,599
a balance you think sometimes because it is art at

548
00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:45,920
the end of the day, you never want to lose

549
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,799
that side of it. So you do need to just

550
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,119
throw some stuff at the wall and see what sticks.

551
00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:54,680
But at the same time, it's being sort of savvy

552
00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:59,279
enough to understand what is sticking, Like there's no butt

553
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:00,880
in just keep on throwing and stuff. You kind of

554
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,720
see what sticks and like work with some of that

555
00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:07,640
stuff as well as adding to it and having a direction.

556
00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:12,599
So we in my edit's like a two year plan. Yeah,

557
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,839
which again I understand because they are and this is

558
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:21,079
very easy going and sort of creative freedom, which I love.

559
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,240
I still like the side of it. But because I

560
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,839
do have the ambition of I want to achieve something,

561
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,160
I've set myself like a two year plan to go

562
00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:32,400
with the creative side of it, and I'm hoping that's

563
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,240
what helps us. So I know what we've got come

564
00:29:35,319 --> 00:29:37,240
up in a couple of months, I know what a

565
00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:42,359
one plan for next year, and I know what where

566
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,400
I want to be in two years time. Whether all

567
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,240
that comes together, whether it changes on the way, which

568
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,359
I imagine at all will I'm expecting for that.

569
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,319
Speaker 13: We have an old saying.

570
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,799
Speaker 4: Prepare for the worst, hope for the best, and like

571
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,240
that's kind of ware me mentality is, oh yeah.

572
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's important to plan, but it's also important

573
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:05,599
to be flexible and be able to adapt and and

574
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,680
and you know, to kind of be limber with that.

575
00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:09,799
Is it hard, by the way, balancing that you mentioned

576
00:30:09,839 --> 00:30:12,359
you have you have two kids, right, yeah? Is it

577
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,440
hard balancing all of that, which I mean we talked

578
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:15,839
a little bit about it earlier, And that's kind of

579
00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:17,440
where a piece in your sound comes from. Right, But

580
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,160
I mean, like, are your kids, I don't know how

581
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,119
old they are, do like do they understand what you do?

582
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,359
And that you create music, and and and why uh,

583
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,759
why it's important to you and all that, and and

584
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,599
I'm curious too, while we're at it, do they have

585
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,200
any musical Do you see any musical inclinations from them?

586
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,200
You know, do they do they show any interest in

587
00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:39,279
maybe picking up an instrument. I assume they're very young,

588
00:30:39,319 --> 00:30:41,960
because you're a young guy. But but I'm curious about

589
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:42,559
that dynamic.

590
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:48,039
Speaker 4: Well, obviously i'll be lying of us. And it was easy. Yeah, Yeah,

591
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,279
anyone who's got a family will tell you that's hard

592
00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:55,759
in itself. It's a it's a constant battle kids. Just

593
00:30:57,119 --> 00:31:00,079
one of those, he's told. But that's I love them. Then,

594
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:04,119
the absolute inspiration in my life. Good me little boy, kay,

595
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,799
And he's four, and I've got a little girl, Rosabella

596
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,440
who's six months Okay, oh wow, so she's still very young.

597
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:13,559
But me little boy loves it. He loves the music,

598
00:31:13,599 --> 00:31:15,000
he loves piecing your sound good.

599
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 13: He's got a little guitar and he's.

600
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 4: A stand in the living room like piece yourself. He

601
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:23,880
loves it.

602
00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 13: Yeah, And obviously there's not a more half. And I

603
00:31:28,039 --> 00:31:28,839
was made than seeing that.

604
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, But the juggle of family life and the music

605
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:38,119
life is it's it's my biggest challenge in life. Definitely.

606
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,920
The way I'm kind of fortunate is because I do

607
00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:45,039
sing him for the living, so I gig in the

608
00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:51,079
bars around Liverpool City Center. So music is my lifestyle,

609
00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:55,799
which kind of makes it that bit easier because if

610
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:59,920
you're waken a regular Monday to Friday or regular job

611
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,200
to then find time to do music, I think will

612
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,000
be harder.

613
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 13: Because I'm already so I'm going to be out gigging

614
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:08,839
in a.

615
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 4: Few hours, so excellent, So I'm classing this is a

616
00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:16,400
way time. So I've come to the studio because we

617
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,839
have a rehearsal room, so I've come here to do

618
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,920
if it's like you have an office, and that helps

619
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,480
me real be balanced. And then my wife Tasha, she

620
00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:31,799
obviously she's very supportive and that has to deal with

621
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,920
a lot of late lights and sure me and the

622
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:37,559
lad are going to practice tonight, so the kids to

623
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,319
bed on your own.

624
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, but you have a supportive partner and

625
00:32:42,519 --> 00:32:46,079
that's that that helps tremendously with anything.

626
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,599
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, God bless you.

627
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: She puts up with a love absolutely well, very good

628
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:54,039
in a moment. Well, we'll let you go in a moment, Jamie,

629
00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:56,480
You've been very generous with your time, but I also

630
00:32:56,559 --> 00:32:58,799
want to play at the end of our conversation, I

631
00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:01,279
want to play the song. I can additional and this

632
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,400
actually came out now, this came out a couple of

633
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,200
years ago, right, yeah, this is this is another great song.

634
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:09,599
Jenny and I both love this. Is there anything you

635
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,519
can tell us about this about this song?

636
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 4: Absolutely I can yet. So this was I think it's

637
00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:21,079
probably the most emotional song I'll ever write, because it

638
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:25,440
just the family were going through such a difficult time

639
00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:31,599
and we had just lost my granddad, which that wasn't

640
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,160
like a big deal. He was getting on so we

641
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:36,279
kind of it wasn't out of Norway type of thing.

642
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:41,039
But me uncle had kind of stopped speaking to his

643
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:46,039
dad and when he passed away to break down because

644
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,119
instant regrets or not like making making up when he

645
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,000
had the chance, and it had just felt a bit

646
00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:54,000
of a ripple effect through the family. And then there

647
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:56,319
was a lot of other emotional things going on in

648
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,599
the family at the time.

649
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 13: Which I won't go into too much.

650
00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:04,559
Speaker 4: I just can't remember the time thinking, wow, everyone falls

651
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:08,159
out with people that you love. But at the end

652
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,000
of the day when the crunch comes to it, once

653
00:34:10,039 --> 00:34:13,719
they're gone, and you realize that love was always still late.

654
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 13: It never went.

655
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 4: You might stop talking, or you might push away and

656
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,360
whatever else, but whether you like to admit it or not,

657
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:26,840
you'll always love the people that you've loved. For your family, right,

658
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,920
that the big one for me, his family. I used

659
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,519
to always joke saying about there's someone and new who

660
00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:34,480
was like the coaxes persions and them was the dog.

661
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,320
But if they absolutely loved the dog, and it was

662
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,719
like that unconditional lovely no matter what happens, if you

663
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,039
can't realize that love is unconditional, and once you kind

664
00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:49,599
of experience it, it's like an ex partner. You could

665
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:51,960
break up with your ex partner, but there'll always be

666
00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:53,679
a part of you that I'll have love for that

667
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,920
ex panner, for the time that you spend together, on

668
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,840
what you went through of course, if it was real

669
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:04,039
love obviously. And Yeah, it just comes from so many

670
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:09,320
different emotions into one song. And again it was another

671
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,719
one of them where I had had the code progression

672
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,559
for years years. I had wrote like two or three

673
00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:17,159
different songs to it and never liked any of them. Yeah,

674
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,079
and then this one just kind of come out of

675
00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:23,400
nowhere in like a sort of heartfled like way. And

676
00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:26,039
then yeah, it was kind of people around me who

677
00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:27,840
wanted me to release that more than myself.

678
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 2: Wow.

679
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:31,679
Speaker 4: So I think it's one of them where my family

680
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,559
all love it and it'll always be something to them.

681
00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, no, it's it's it's it's a beautiful song,

682
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,199
beautiful thank you.

683
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 4: I appreciate that absolutely.

684
00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 2: And before we do that, Jamie, and before we let

685
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,880
you go, where should people go online? Where's the best

686
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,079
place for people to go online to keep up with

687
00:35:48,199 --> 00:35:49,800
everything that Jamie Higgs is doing.

688
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,639
Speaker 4: Instagram's meet soors of main use for social media, that's

689
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:55,599
what I kind of use.

690
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 13: I try and go on that daily.

691
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,119
Speaker 4: I'm trying to build me TikTok because everyone says TikTok's

692
00:36:02,119 --> 00:36:02,599
the way to go.

693
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:03,599
Speaker 2: Now that's right.

694
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 13: I'm trying to use that more.

695
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 4: I think TikTok's a little bit more cringey, and that's

696
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,840
what It just takes a bit of get used to that.

697
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know, you know here in America too,

698
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,000
there's always politicians threatening to take it away from us.

699
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:18,920
They haven't done it yet.

700
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it's just it's a weird one of TikTok

701
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,400
because the whole China, this whole China connection and everyone

702
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,719
else to the sort of yeah, yeah, yeah, the opinions

703
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,239
on that. But we won't open that though.

704
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 2: No, no, that's a big door to open. But but yeah,

705
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,280
so so Instagram is.

706
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 4: The main the main place I would say, so yeah,

707
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:42,760
so yeah, okay, all right.

708
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: Very good Jamie. Listen, it's been wonderful speaking with you,

709
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,760
and we'll definitely do this again in the future as

710
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,400
you're releasing new music. Well, we'll have you back. Certainly,

711
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,599
love what you're doing. And uh and you said you've

712
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:54,599
got a show tonight, right.

713
00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got three tonight and then I'm doing all

714
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,320
guest appearing is a studio oh tonight.

715
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got a busy night ahead of you.

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Speaker 4: That's great, absolutely off mart Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good.

718
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Speaker 4: But I'd also like to say things I've really enjoyed.

719
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This has probably been the best one I've done, so

720
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oh absolutely absolutely credit means have enjoyed this.

721
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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, Jamie. I appreciate that. I appreciate that

722
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,239
very very much. We love to hear that. All right, well,

723
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,159
we will let you go, my friend. I'm gonna hit

724
00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:24,519
that track Unconditional, and then I'm probably gonna sneak in

725
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piece in your sound one more time too for people

726
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,840
who are just joining us. Sometimes I cheat it. Sometimes

727
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,440
I cheat a little bit. If I really love a song,

728
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I'll sneak it in a second time in the hour,

729
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because why not. But uh, thank you, thank you again

730
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Jamie so much, and we will talk to you soon.

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I'm sure.

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Speaker 4: Absolute pleasure. Thanks, Steve and Jenny appreciate it.

733
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Speaker 2: You got it all right.

734
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Speaker 4: Take care byeye much love may take care. Thank you,

735
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you got it all right.

736
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Speaker 2: Wonderful. That was the great Jamie Higgs really enjoyed our conversation.

737
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And let's play this song again. This is called Unconditional.

738
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This is such a beautiful song. Jenny and I both

739
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love this. And then we're also gonna play a piece

740
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in your sound again too. Another just such a great track.

741
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So and look forward to watching his career as it

742
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continues to evolve. But he's doing great stuff. But here

743
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it does. This is Unconditional by Jamie Higgs.

744
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Speaker 16: When My Hide Gli starts fall, broke the Sky, the side.

745
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Speaker 17: Of pieasy Lgifi Bend, The Long Time in the Dog

746
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is a bravy light singing it all here when it.

747
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Speaker 7: Needs you to row.

748
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Speaker 5: Have we see it all?

749
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Speaker 7: It's like you to.

750
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Speaker 5: Speak, you know, trust me when I'm blowing a loud.

751
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Speaker 1: I we always love you.

752
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Speaker 5: He Lord, you slaid by way, you're so on condition,

753
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No take away? May you always love me?

754
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Speaker 7: Lord?

755
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Speaker 5: I push you away your loves.

756
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Speaker 18: Compdition, No take away man, take away, take away you

757
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pay yours.

758
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Speaker 5: Had you ash riding on the wave. I get the

759
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sky you see pa.

760
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Speaker 16: Walk to long for crime you com bob myself if

761
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your dad, I wen't always love you, he's love your

762
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snap by wagg you're so compition.

763
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Speaker 5: Now take away pain you in it? Always love me?

764
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Speaker 18: Nor I push your wagg you'll loves completition, No tink

765
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away pain take away, take away your passage, take away

766
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your past, take away your passage, take.

767
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Speaker 5: Away you pay it. I we it always love you

768
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love you said.

769
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Speaker 6: By ways you're so arm condition.

770
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Speaker 5: No no take away pain you in it? Always loved me? Ah,

771
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I pushed away your long time condition.

772
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Speaker 18: No no take away pain take away you pay, take

773
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away you pay.

774
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Speaker 5: All its slide. It seems like a song.

775
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Speaker 6: Sometimes it's loud, Caddy, what's going also can't be skinned

776
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what be saying you sound then side.

777
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Speaker 5: So it's like an a joke. We never g men

778
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don't beat les rangeant singing my end and sing me

779
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high up High's command when you sign sign wound B

780
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sing your sound where you rod, It's like your song.

781
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Speaker 7: As me how round that stound me sing you sound

782
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where you round.

783
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Speaker 5: It's like your song as Me I of the Crown

784
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:36,199
at beside a round the sing loud B saying in

785
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side shine shine, so do you get it? I'll in

786
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,360
love it. You stay. It's like a magic out of

787
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:04,400
the high you bulling rabbit feeling the sky. He's just

788
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so majestic. Pace of beery sound east side side found

789
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p s sounding crown.

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Speaker 11: It's like like your song as Me I Crown that

791
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hot foul pacing your sound rock.

792
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Speaker 5: It's like your song as Me Eye off the growl

793
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ever beside and around the same.

794
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Speaker 7: Line p s your side shide shide.

795
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Speaker 11: Found piecing your song Oh wait you round, it's like

796
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your song as We high off the growl.

797
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Speaker 5: And found BC sound and round it's like your song

798
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gusly high off the growl. Every time you're row the

799
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sing loud BC sound sound sound.

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Speaker 2: And now, for the first time on American radio, a

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Matt Connerton unleashed w m n H ninety five point

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three FM exclusive the new single from Naked Without It,

803
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I'm not pretty.

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Speaker 5: You are listening to Wuminah.

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Speaker 4: World premiere.

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Speaker 7: I'm not pretty, but I'm prettier than you.

807
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Speaker 5: I do the world I'm gone to.

808
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 9: From the corner of my eye, well I can see

809
00:46:37,519 --> 00:46:38,920
that I'm looking fly.

810
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Speaker 19: I'm not pretty, but I'm pretty with you. I'm not pretty,

811
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but I'm not gone to change. My kids said it's

812
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from the kids.

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Speaker 20: When I got cue, she's.

814
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Speaker 1: Having stuff in my words to you late to real rage.

815
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I'm not pretty, but I'm not gonna shoo. I'm not

816
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,039
pretty good. I'm not gonna stop.

817
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep monkey food on and said, I drop.

818
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Speaker 19: This life ain't gonna in when I pramise you, my friend,

819
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I'm not pretty much.

820
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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna stop. I'm not pretty, but I'm pretty

821
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:46,880
at you.

822
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,639
Speaker 1: I don't know the word I'm gonna to.

823
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 19: From the corner of my eye, well, I can see

824
00:48:01,039 --> 00:48:02,400
that I'm looking fly.

825
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Speaker 5: I'm not pretty good. I'm pretty good than you. I'm

826
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not pretty good.

827
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 1: They can't keep fit down.

828
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Speaker 5: I'm going to rise to the job breaking.

829
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Speaker 12: Can theyme my crown.

830
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Speaker 5: Ain't gonna stop me getting half a new month? Don't

831
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me that strive.

832
00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 19: I'm not pretty good that you can't keep fit down,

833
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:38,599
mister Kennedy.

834
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Speaker 1: I'm not pretty good. I know my place, I know

835
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the set of God's glue.

836
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Speaker 5: You made me be the vote to see. But do

837
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:30,400
you commit to me. I'm not really but I know

838
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:36,239
my place. I'm not pretty good.

839
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Speaker 7: I'm pretty, hear you.

840
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Speaker 5: I don't know where I'm Garnity.

841
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:52,039
Speaker 19: Because from the corner of my eye, well, I could

842
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see that I'm looking matily.

843
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Speaker 21: I'm not grad but I'm pretty early you. I'm not pretty,

844
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:10,800
but i'm pretty ear than you. I'm not pretty, but

845
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i'm pretty earth in you.

846
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Speaker 1: I'm not pretty boo, I'm pretty than you.

847
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Speaker 5: Not said wait, I'm begging for my baby.

848
00:50:48,119 --> 00:50:51,039
Speaker 8: Don't wait over up your hut.

849
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Speaker 16: Not said wait, oh wait.

850
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Speaker 7: Wait.

851
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Speaker 22: It was Sunday evening, and all my roads were clear

852
00:51:09,679 --> 00:51:13,280
and my eyes were dry to spy my fear.

853
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 5: But I was flying too close to the sun.

854
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,519
Speaker 22: When I got your whole cold half the radio long,

855
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,599
I began to star wait oh, begging for my baby.

856
00:51:24,679 --> 00:51:32,519
Speaker 12: No wait, or your hot not sad ways.

857
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 5: Wait, oh wait. Sometimes I'm lonely. Sometimes I want to

858
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:50,239
be alone. Sometimes I'm freezing. Sometimes I need that cold.

859
00:51:51,199 --> 00:51:54,760
Sometimes you shine, it's overhead. I'm staring at the sun.

860
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 12: You want to spend the night with you with the

861
00:51:58,159 --> 00:52:01,719
light on? Wait, begging for my baby? Don't wait, you

862
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,000
don't know, burn up.

863
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:08,199
Speaker 5: Your heart, not save?

864
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Speaker 7: Wait?

865
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:17,559
Speaker 5: Wait, oh wait, I.

866
00:52:19,199 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 22: I want, I want, I want you, lease, wait, beg

867
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,800
him for my baby to wait, open up your heart.

868
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 8: Not save wait, begging for my baby to wait or

869
00:52:39,079 --> 00:52:39,599
burn up.

870
00:52:44,519 --> 00:52:55,519
Speaker 12: So I beg you for my baby to leave, beg

871
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you for my baby to.

872
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 8: You wait, Thank you for my baby to wait.

873
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Speaker 7: All that.

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