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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app. RAMS so impressive in that victory

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<v Speaker 1>that meant so much, had just a kind of heaviness

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<v Speaker 1>about it, an emotion about it because of everything that

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<v Speaker 1>this community has been through and continues to brace for.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a really remarkable ramp up to the start

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<v Speaker 1>of the game, I thought, with a moment of silence

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<v Speaker 1>and the way in which they made that stadium feel

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<v Speaker 1>almost like Los Angeles it was. I found it powerful,

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<v Speaker 1>I found it emotional, and then of course the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>went on to victory. Meantime, here if you missed it,

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<v Speaker 1>there's slightly better news in this next wind event. It

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<v Speaker 1>was already not going to be quite as bad as

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<v Speaker 1>last week, which was unprecedented, and really, you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>eighty to one hundred mile an hour winds in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>while we were expecting something that wasn't going to be

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<v Speaker 1>quite as bad, now the National Weather Service is saying

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it'll be even slightly less intense than originally forecast.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's not to say it won't be very intense,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not to say that This isn't a wind

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<v Speaker 1>event around which there should be a lot of precaution

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<v Speaker 1>and preparedness, But what they were saying and what they

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<v Speaker 1>are saying shows signs that we might optimistically be able

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid another huge conflagration of the sort that we

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<v Speaker 1>saw in the Palisades and Altadena. By the way, in

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<v Speaker 1>the Altadena fire, there are already lawsuits filed, four of them.

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<v Speaker 1>They accused Southern California Edison of starting this eaton fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Lawyers for homeowners in the Altadena area announcing these lawsuits

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<v Speaker 1>just yesterday. They say their clients either had to evacuate

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<v Speaker 1>their homes or lost their homes entirely in the Eaten fire.

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<v Speaker 1>In each of the suits blames Son California Edison. They

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<v Speaker 1>say the fire started under a Southern California Edison transmission tower,

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<v Speaker 1>and while there hasn't been a final determination as to

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<v Speaker 1>the cause for the fire, there does appear to be

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of a constellation of evidence, and like the

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<v Speaker 1>as it All Comes together video, I'm sure you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>it viral video, there have been anecdotal accounts of what

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<v Speaker 1>happened there, and the attorneys are saying, this is a quote,

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<v Speaker 1>we believe that the Eaton fire was ignited because of

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<v Speaker 1>see's failure to de energize its overhead wires which traverse

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<v Speaker 1>Eaton Canyon. The three other suits that were filed yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>one represents a FedEx worker who lost their Altadena home,

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<v Speaker 1>a second represents a homeowner who rented his property out

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<v Speaker 1>in Altadena, and a third represents multiple homeowners who are

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<v Speaker 1>essentially echoing the same claims that we've heard, in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>that Southern California Edison is responsible for this. So the

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<v Speaker 1>lawsuit is well, this collection of lawsuits, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>just the beginning, right. One of the attorneys representing several

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<v Speaker 1>Altadena residents accused the company of not cutting power to

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<v Speaker 1>transmission lines as wins whipped through the area. The quote is,

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<v Speaker 1>during the life threatening fire conditions predicted by the National

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<v Speaker 1>Weather Service, SEE did not de energize as power lines

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<v Speaker 1>in the area where the fire started. And so you

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<v Speaker 1>turn to the utility. What did they say? They say,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll review the complaint when it's received. This is a quote.

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<v Speaker 1>The cause of the fire continues to be under investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>They say, our hearts remain with our communities. During the

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<v Speaker 1>devastating fires in southern California, and we remain committed to

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<v Speaker 1>supporting them through this difficult time. You know, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I hear, and there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of viral videos and a lot of podcasters are going

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<v Speaker 1>off about this as well, is you know, how come

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<v Speaker 1>I think Corolla.

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<v Speaker 2>Did something on this.

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<v Speaker 1>Adam did a big thing about these fires, and how

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<v Speaker 1>come the these utility lines aren't underground? And of course

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<v Speaker 1>putting them underground would be terrific. I mean, putting them

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<v Speaker 1>underground is definitely the safest move. What's the problem with that?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the issue with putting the utility lines underground? Why

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't they do it? Because of money? It's incredibly expensive

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<v Speaker 1>to put them underground. I mean, I don't know, it

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<v Speaker 1>might be by a factor of ten. It's insanely expensive

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<v Speaker 1>to put these transmission lines underground. And that's why they

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<v Speaker 1>are not underground. It's that simple. And so you see

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<v Speaker 1>through out California, in northern California where they've had any

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<v Speaker 1>number of issues, through Sonoma County, the Paradise Fire, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>They have shutdowns there that regularly leave people without power

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<v Speaker 1>for thirty six forty eight hours. That's PG and e

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<v Speaker 1>UP there and in southern California, we're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to implement strategies.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>These strategies are to they're coming, and they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>involve AI and they're going to involve all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>new tech that will address an incoming meteorological scenario and narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>As it meets the existing.

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<v Speaker 1>Narrative and scenario with electric power being supplied to various

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<v Speaker 1>areas that have these power lines above the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>So prepare for that. It's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course, if these communities can pay, and many

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<v Speaker 1>do you know, many communities will collect residents.

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<v Speaker 2>This happened. I know because in.

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<v Speaker 1>My area I was approached by a homeowner and they said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting everybody in the area to chip in, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're all going to pay for the power lines to

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<v Speaker 1>be buried and to be put underground. And if we

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<v Speaker 1>all pay for it, we can get the city to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. But it's not cheap, even with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of homeowner's pigeon in it's it's not cheap. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>really very few communities that could band together and do that.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, that.

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<v Speaker 1>Takes care of one issue, but that's not the only

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<v Speaker 1>way fires start. And so when it comes to how

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<v Speaker 1>the fires start, I mean, look at what's happened to

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<v Speaker 1>the Palisades in Malibu, decimated by fire, it's very likely

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<v Speaker 1>that power lines had nothing to do with it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot when it comes to these fires that

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<v Speaker 1>has to do with their origins. I just told you

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<v Speaker 1>about the lawsuit that's emerging in Altadena and the Southern

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<v Speaker 1>California Edison retort. Even as they are involved in the

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth with attorneys. There'll be more of that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure with Southern California Edison. And when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the Palisage fire, it's a bit more complicated. They

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<v Speaker 1>have ATF there on the scene and those are really

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<v Speaker 1>high end investigators. But there's a lot of investigative reporting,

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<v Speaker 1>and there is a lot of surveillance video, there's satellite video, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all emerging in c C Woods is an investigative

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<v Speaker 1>reporter at the Current Report and also editor in chief

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<v Speaker 1>in Malibu Global Media, and she's joining us now with

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<v Speaker 1>emerging evidence of arson in the Palisades fire. Good morning, Cec,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning? Thank you for having.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, of course, So what have you found out and

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<v Speaker 1>how is it all playing out in the way you

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<v Speaker 1>see this Palisage fire and the genesis of it all.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, right now, what I'm hearing and what I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 3>is I don't know if you could necessarily call it

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<v Speaker 3>arson definitively, because they are talking about the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>there were fireworks, which are illegal, that were set off

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<v Speaker 3>on New Year's Eve, and that that could be the

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<v Speaker 3>fire could have started from embers that were smoldering underneath.

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<v Speaker 3>And you and I talked about this yesterday. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily think that that is plausible like in this scenario,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm not an expert. So there are eyewitness accounts

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<v Speaker 3>of hikers that were running away from the fire. I

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<v Speaker 3>did receive phone calls and dms from their parents actually,

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<v Speaker 3>of these teenagers, and they are claiming that they were

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<v Speaker 3>not involved. They saw flames and they started running and

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<v Speaker 3>they were begging me not to post any content, and

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<v Speaker 3>I hadn't, so I was, you know, I assured them, look,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to put them in harm's way, and

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<v Speaker 3>just seeing I'm sure with all the satellite imagery that

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<v Speaker 3>it will be able to be determined.

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<v Speaker 2>More yeah, definitively, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, more more definitively yeah, but Arson, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if I could really say this is on Arsen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, just let me just double back on this New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's Eve thing, because I'm seeing that. And yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>talked a CECI on my my show on YouTube yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>and we talked it at link of that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>showed actually some of the satellite pictures. If people want

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<v Speaker 1>to see it, you can find it there on YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>at Mark Thompson Show. But I really want to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to that idea that somehow there were New Year's

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<v Speaker 1>Eve of fireworks and then somehow though smoldering embers re

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<v Speaker 1>emerged days later. Is that that really seems like a

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<v Speaker 1>stretch to me.

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<v Speaker 3>A major stretch. You and I talked about that yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>and then when I posted about being on your show

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday and people went back and watched the YouTube, they

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<v Speaker 3>put a link to a Washington Post article where these

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<v Speaker 3>scientists are saying they can smolder up to ten days

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<v Speaker 3>and blah blah blah. And it still seems like a big,

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<v Speaker 3>big stretch to me, especially with how dry everything is

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<v Speaker 3>over there and we had no rain. We have no rain,

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<v Speaker 3>and so so that definitely seems like a stretch to me. However,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we had the the arsen incident at Leo, Korea,

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<v Speaker 3>which was the day after the Palisades fire started. Then

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<v Speaker 3>I reported on an incident where there was a fire

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<v Speaker 3>that started in Corral Canyon. Neighbors noticed what was going on.

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<v Speaker 3>They called their local little engine that they they started

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<v Speaker 3>it after Wolsey and oh no, it was before Wolsey

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seven to one, and they have that right up

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<v Speaker 3>there in the bowl in Corral and they got on

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<v Speaker 3>it right away. They noticed the suspicious truck and they

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<v Speaker 3>apprehended a young male who had firefighter gear that they

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<v Speaker 3>are suspecting that it is stolen firefighter gear. He had lighters,

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<v Speaker 3>so they ended up taking him down to the roadblock

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<v Speaker 3>and lost station ended up taking him into custody. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know where that's at right now, but this morning

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<v Speaker 3>to Penga emergencies, it's like a certain site for Topenga residents.

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<v Speaker 3>They're saying now that they're scared that embers are going

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<v Speaker 3>to flare up again. Makes a lot of sense because

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<v Speaker 3>you know everything is still fresh.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, I mean these are that seems far more

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<v Speaker 1>credible that you could have these embers. There's just so

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<v Speaker 1>many of them as a result of Policaige fire is

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<v Speaker 1>still ongoing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, my god, yeah, but you are very tied in.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the reasons I want to talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>is you're very tied in with the Malibu officials, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have very good sources. What are your

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<v Speaker 1>sources telling you? I mean, are they they saying anything

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't know if you I'm not asking you

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<v Speaker 1>to quote anybody, but on background, are they giving you anything?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we talked about this yesterday as well. There are

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<v Speaker 3>city officials that I talked to and support and confer

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<v Speaker 3>with regularly, and we were discussing during the Palistates fire

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<v Speaker 3>when it was just raging. I was talking with this

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<v Speaker 3>one official and he told me that we were talking

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<v Speaker 3>about Franklin fire, which was exactly a month almost to

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<v Speaker 3>the day before, in December, December ninth, and he told

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<v Speaker 3>me they are ninety nine point nine percent certain that

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<v Speaker 3>the origin was from a human starting a fire. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>whether that the arts in or not, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>They found evidence of like a homeless what looked like

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<v Speaker 3>potentially a homeless person was in that area, and so

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<v Speaker 3>that we know was started by a human. So the

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<v Speaker 3>But now we're looking at the trail, so there's a

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I mean, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Does appear that, just in our last minut or so,

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<v Speaker 1>it does appear that the trail that you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>that that Tamescal trail, is that it that Tomescal aage trail. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that appears to be supported anyway by satellite imagery and

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<v Speaker 1>by anecdotal evidence, and that really is the focus for

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<v Speaker 2>Would that be fair to say?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, And I can't imagine that the FEDS are not

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<v Speaker 1>That it was you know, sure, it's hard to imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>although maybe it's not given the velocity of the winds

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<v Speaker 3>But well, I'm hoping that the winds. We have a

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<v Speaker 3>that this doesn't flare up again because we have enough

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<v Speaker 3>problems with arsenists and looters getting through barricades. We do

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<v Speaker 3>not have the resources. You know, the Los Angeles County

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<v Speaker 3>the barricades that service these residents, and residents are really

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the looting situation is real, and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>even yeah, the potential from ours.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and they're they're directing up as firefighters and cal

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<v Speaker 3>fire and they are getting through these barricades. That's why

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<v Speaker 3>having the additional security is so important, because our resources

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is one of the things I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>against these things like looting and aditional arson. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much, CC Woods again at the current report, and

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<v Speaker 1>the editor in chief at Malibu Global Media. Yeah, appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>your good work, and we'll talk again again. The Polisades

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<v Speaker 1>fire close to twenty four thousand acres, only seventeen percent containment,

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<v Speaker 1>and eight people have lost their lives in all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And you hear how it's an ongoing situation. You could

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<v Speaker 1>about what may happen. So this next wind event, which

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the very latest discussing.

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<v Speaker 1>As you might imagine the fires their origins, this next

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<v Speaker 1>wind event that will re emerge late this afternoon and

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<v Speaker 1>It still looks as though it will have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of complications for all of us, so do stay tuned

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<v Speaker 1>to KFI.

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<v Speaker 2>There'll be additional programming.

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<v Speaker 1>We've really built out a lot of the support structure

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<v Speaker 1>here at KFI to make sure that you get the

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<v Speaker 1>very latest. Is anybody else addicted to this Watch Duty app?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, my god, Deborah, it's wild man.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, And I'm constantly getting notifications and as soon as

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<v Speaker 5>I do, I'm checking it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The watch Duty app was created by a guy in

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<v Speaker 1>Sonoma County I think was a you know, had their

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<v Speaker 1>own experiences, you know, Sonoma burnt so horribly very recently,

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<v Speaker 1>and he created this app and it's staffed by volunteers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a nonprofit and I've never felt better about upgrading

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<v Speaker 1>with the t twenty five dollars. It's twenty five dollars

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<v Speaker 1>or the years I've paid twenty five dollars a month

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<v Speaker 1>for this thing. It's so good. All of the latest

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<v Speaker 1>advisories are there. In addition to that, you have overlays

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<v Speaker 1>and layers that will show you wind velocities and directions

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<v Speaker 1>and air quality. It's really super impressive.

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<v Speaker 5>And it also shows you your evacuation zones.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great, it's quite special.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, we've built out a lot of support structure

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<v Speaker 1>here at kfive, But in addition, all of us have

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<v Speaker 1>sort of as individuals, built out our own area of

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, it's also cool. I don't know about

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<v Speaker 5>your neighborhood, but I live up in the hills and

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<v Speaker 5>it's pretty scary, and we have a group chat with neighbors.

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<v Speaker 5>There's about forty of us and we call ourselves the

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<v Speaker 5>Evacuation Squad, and so everybody is posting about the win

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<v Speaker 5>and about the evacuation warnings and just everything, making sure

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<v Speaker 5>everybody has watch duty. And it's really it's great because,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, one of the positive things that is coming

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<v Speaker 5>out of this is just communities rallying. And also I'd

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<v Speaker 5>like to say that I hope that when all of

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<v Speaker 5>can all do for our firefighters and first responders. Man,

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<v Speaker 5>those people are the true heroes.

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<v Speaker 2>Couldn't agree more.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, and there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>definitely check them out. We did a thing on my

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube show yesterday where we we ram down a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of them and I put hot links under the video

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<v Speaker 1>to all of these things and you can click right through.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Mark Thompson Show on YouTube. If you can

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<v Speaker 1>find yesterday's show, it's all right there. And they're also

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<v Speaker 1>you know, animal rescuers, and there are.

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<v Speaker 2>Those who are providing food.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Jose Andreas is probably the highest profile example.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's just such a great effort and as I

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<v Speaker 1>And I know it almost sounds so cliche to say,

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<v Speaker 1>well it brings out the best in us to these

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of challenges, but it really is true. In the heartbreak,

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<v Speaker 1>there is so much in the way of uplifting stories

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<v Speaker 1>and so many who are ready to make a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a story yesterday about people who had lost

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<v Speaker 1>their home and they were volunteering to help others who

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<v Speaker 1>providing food and shelter. So there is so much good

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<v Speaker 1>out there. And as Deborah says, you know, the heroic

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<v Speaker 1>work of these first responders and these firefighters, it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>incalculably critical and it's so very impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're an animal lever like I am.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it was Angel Martinez that sent me this

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<v Speaker 5>a dog that wouldn't leave its burning house. I think

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<v Speaker 5>it was in the Palisades. So you see this dog

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<v Speaker 5>was you know, barking and scared but would not leave,

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<v Speaker 5>and it was right next to a firefighter and the

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<v Speaker 5>firefighter is you know, holding onto the dog, touching the dog,

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<v Speaker 5>and an animal I think it was an animal trainer

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<v Speaker 5>came and tried at first to rescue the dog, and

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<v Speaker 5>the dog didn't want to go because it was so scared.

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<v Speaker 5>But finally they got the dog into a car, and

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<v Speaker 5>then that animal trainer slash rescuer, was able to track

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<v Speaker 5>down the owners. But here's a firefighter that's hosing down

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<v Speaker 5>a fire in the Palisades and is consoling this this

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<v Speaker 1>There are some images of the firefighters holding there's one

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<v Speaker 2>I saw that. Oh my god, it that just made

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<v Speaker 2>me weep. I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 1>I've you know, I've cried more than I did as

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<v Speaker 1>an eleven year old kid watching Born Free or one

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<v Speaker 1>of those movies that you know, some tear jerker film.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying before the moment of silence that all

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<v Speaker 1>of the NFL games did. They all did a moment

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<v Speaker 1>of silence, and as the announcer, the PA announcers saying,

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<v Speaker 1>for our friends in southern California who I'm choking up

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<v Speaker 1>during that. I mean, it's it's very emotional, it's so powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>We are all super charged that way. And look, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that informs all of that is that

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<v Speaker 1>many of us haven't slept for like six days, which

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<v Speaker 1>will do it. I mean, I didn't sleep at all

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<v Speaker 5>Are you going to sleep tonight? You're not going to

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<v Speaker 5>sleep tonight because we know that the wins are gonna

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<v Speaker 5>they're supposed to pick up later today through the night. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I see, I've been up like everybody just on alert,

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<v Speaker 1>The best we can do is offer you information, which

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<v Speaker 1>will continue to do and just you know, speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>the animal thing, we are going to get into that

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<v Speaker 1>in the next hour with someone who has a global

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<v Speaker 1>meaning complete sense of what's happening with the animal rescuers.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a problem in La County and there's a problem

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<v Speaker 1>in La City, and that is that many certified rescuers

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<v Speaker 1>are not able to get past the evacuation zones to

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<v Speaker 1>rescue animals that they know are there. They're hearing from

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<v Speaker 1>owners we left our cat behind, we left our dog behind,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're reaching out to these groups again certified rescuers.

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<v Speaker 1>There has to be some kind of memorandum of understanding

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<v Speaker 1>such that all of these various law enforcement officials who

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<v Speaker 1>are doing such great work, you have to hold those

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<v Speaker 1>can't just let anybody in. But there has to be

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<v Speaker 1>that are desperately.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, we're going to get into that next hour. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll mention the longtime mayor of Santa watching developments, of

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<v Speaker 1>course around the fires and around the meteorological narratives, the

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<v Speaker 1>and he was hopeful, and so I'm hopeful based on

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<v Speaker 1>to getting Feds to step up and give us the

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<v Speaker 1>billions of dollars in federal relief that we need. The

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<v Speaker 1>lead congressional Republicans saying that they want to place conditions

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<v Speaker 1>I well, Mike Johnson, who's from Louisiana, which is itself

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<v Speaker 1>is rich because they got tons of money in Louisiana

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<v Speaker 1>following Katrina, as they deserved to get I mean, as

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<v Speaker 1>you needed to provide, and yet that money was misspent.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a bunch of corruption, I mean, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>rich that the congress person from Louisiana is making these

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<v Speaker 1>statements about California.

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<v Speaker 6>So speaking to reporters Monday, Republican Speaker of the House

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<v Speaker 6>Mike Johnson saying he thinks there should be conditions on

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<v Speaker 6>any federal aid money sent to victims of the catastrophic

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<v Speaker 6>Los Angeles wildfires.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously there has been.

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<v Speaker 6>Water resource mis management for his management mistakes, all sorts

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<v Speaker 6>of problems, and it does come down to leadership. Johnson

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<v Speaker 6>went on to say there had been discussions among Congressional

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<v Speaker 6>Republicans about tying any money sent to California to raising

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<v Speaker 6>the nation's debt limit. The Speaker also saying he believes

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<v Speaker 6>both state and local LA leaders had been derelict in

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<v Speaker 6>their duty. Johnson's proposal drawing both support and criticism Monday,

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's appropriate. Bill Jackson is the chair of

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<v Speaker 6>the San Francisco Republican Party. He says, well, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>support tying federal aid to national issues like the debt ceiling.

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<v Speaker 6>He does think it's appropriate to have the federal government

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<v Speaker 6>require California to make certain changes in order to receive

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<v Speaker 6>disaster relief money.

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<v Speaker 4>We need to not write endless blank checks for large

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<v Speaker 4>disasters when simultaneously state and local leaders are not making

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<v Speaker 4>the preparations and not allowing not demanding that local governments

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<v Speaker 4>do their part to mitigate these disasters as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, great, but just breaking news.

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<v Speaker 1>Those checks are written to Oklahoma, Nebraska, Texas, Missouri, Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina, Georgia. They are written generally without any strings attached.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times are they rebuilt in Florida from the

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<v Speaker 1>hurricanes they've got hurricanes? You know, the ocean super cooked

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<v Speaker 1>like it is, is serving up hurricanes to far to

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<v Speaker 1>like a short order chef, and we're sending them relief

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<v Speaker 1>money regularly, and that money does not have any strings attached.

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<v Speaker 1>But now, in this highly partisan environment, Washington is playing

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<v Speaker 1>a red blue game. Certainly Johnson is Look, both parties

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<v Speaker 1>are not monoliths, right, Neither party is completely one note.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have members of the Republican Party who seem as

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<v Speaker 1>though they're trying to attack this situation more reasonably than

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<v Speaker 1>those who are extreme partisans who just want to make

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<v Speaker 1>Californian suffer. Similarly, they're Democrats to say, hey, we really

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<v Speaker 1>want to look into reforms, and we want to look

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<v Speaker 1>into responsible changes and strategies moving forward. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>have those who say, you know, just give us the money.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is a massive, profound tragedy, desperately in

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<v Speaker 1>need of resources from the federal government that include financial resources.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, we contribute way more money than

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<v Speaker 1>any of these other states from which these congressmen come,

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<v Speaker 1>Louisiana among them. Dude, check, Louisiana gets money from California.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned Louisiana because Mike Johnson. But there's an outrageous

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<v Speaker 1>quality to this, given the fact that California, this robust

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<v Speaker 1>financial engine for America, is having to beg these representatives

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<v Speaker 1>from states that take from California for some of that

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<v Speaker 1>money back for some of that return on investment.

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<v Speaker 6>The notion of conditions on federal aid is not popular

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<v Speaker 6>among money politicians that include some Republicans as well as

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<v Speaker 6>a majority of Democrats, including Senator Adam Schiff.

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<v Speaker 7>I am concerned about it, but I'm hoping that they

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<v Speaker 7>will take the approach, frankly, that I've taken over my

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<v Speaker 7>years in Congress, and that is, we've seen disasters in

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<v Speaker 7>every part of the country of different kinds, earthquakes and

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<v Speaker 7>floods and fire and hurricanes. I have never once asked

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<v Speaker 7>or even considered is this a blue state or red.

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<v Speaker 6>State of California. State Senator Scott Wiener believes, if enacted,

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<v Speaker 6>Johnson's proposal could create a dangerous new precedent. Wiener says,

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<v Speaker 6>despite the uncertainty, the state government will be there to

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<v Speaker 6>support the LA area, but he acknowledges without federal help

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<v Speaker 6>that could be more challenging.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the state government is not going to be enough.

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<v Speaker 1>You are going to need the Fed. This is an unprecedented,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean gargantuan financial hit to the state of California, but.

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<v Speaker 6>We as a state are going to be there for LA,

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<v Speaker 6>just like we were there for northern California and other

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<v Speaker 6>areas during wildfires. Speaker Johnson says that while his personal

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<v Speaker 6>view is that there should be conditions on any aid

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<v Speaker 6>sent here to California, he wants to see what the

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<v Speaker 6>consensus is among House Republicans before possibly moving forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're trying to attack this from a various

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<v Speaker 1>political perspectives, but I don't know how to handicap this.

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<v Speaker 2>In the end.

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<v Speaker 1>We will discuss this more all this week because this

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<v Speaker 1>is an unfolding situation that will require some buy in

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<v Speaker 1>from Washington, and I think we will get some buy

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<v Speaker 1>in from Washington. But there is a deplorable aspect of this,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just sort of like, well, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a blue state, let them burn. It really

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<v Speaker 1>is a a time during which you don't want those

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<v Speaker 1>questions asked. I mean, does that occur to you when

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<v Speaker 1>these you see these areas of destruction in Tornado Alley

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<v Speaker 1>and all those places I mentioned, you know in Oklahoma, Kansas,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't go, well, you know, tough spot.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, let's face it, they're a red state.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're if you're a Democrat, never heard

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<v Speaker 1>any any Demo or Democratic politicians say well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they really have to think about maybe you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, changing.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Construction restrictions there and regulations. I mean, I would suggest

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<v Speaker 1>that after all of this, and we'll be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this this week, because this is what's being talked about

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<v Speaker 1>and needs to be talked about the changes that we

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<v Speaker 1>do need to make in building back. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that is a conversation that we're already having. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to have our you know, our feet held to

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<v Speaker 1>these big fires to learn that we need to change

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<v Speaker 1>the way we build these homes and businesses. Construction materials

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<v Speaker 1>need to change, but we don't need to make these

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<v Speaker 1>changes at gunpoint. From Washington, i'd respectfully suggest that anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Thompson sitting in for Gary and Shannon. When we

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<v Speaker 1>come back, the longtime mayor of Santa Monica join, Phil Brock,

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<v Speaker 1>will get a State of the State there, and Judy

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<v Speaker 1>Mancuso as well, the founder CEO of Social Compassion in legislation.

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<v Speaker 1>She will give us a sense of what's happening with

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<v Speaker 1>animal rescue and the way in which the state and

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<v Speaker 1>city can help in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Regard as well.

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