Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but I would say that a
Speaker 1: little bit over a year ago, when Pat Kelsey was
Speaker 1: in the mix for this job that he now has
Speaker 1: and is off to obviously a great start, I doubt
Speaker 1: that at that time there was a whole lot of
Speaker 1: thinking about pros and cons. I would imagine that, even
Speaker 1: though I'm sure he was really happy at Charleston, having
Speaker 1: success Charleston, South Carolina, it's apparently a beautiful place to live,
Speaker 1: I just I would have I just assumed that if
Speaker 1: he knew he was going to get the offer it
Speaker 1: was done, he was going to leave Charleston and come
Speaker 1: to Louisville, because clearly it's a much better job, and
Speaker 1: really it's a different level. So I bring all that
Speaker 1: up to say I don't think he was doing a
Speaker 1: whole lot of comparing. Well, you know, at Charleston, I've
Speaker 1: got a beach here, and at Louisville, you know they've
Speaker 1: got you know, Churchill downs in the Kentucky Derby. But
Speaker 1: if he did consider those two things, I'm curious if
Speaker 1: he also considered the thought of him ever being you know,
Speaker 1: of a horse race, a thoroughbred being named after him,
Speaker 1: and now he has that, and it seems as if
Speaker 1: he actually, you know, he's not just appreciative. I think
Speaker 1: he thinks it's pretty cool, which it is cool. It's
Speaker 1: cool as hell. I would love to have a have
Speaker 1: a you know, a Derby winning trainer name a horse
Speaker 1: after me, And that's what Kenny McPeak did. So he
Speaker 1: has a two year old that is the son of
Speaker 1: Blame and it's named kels k e l Z and
Speaker 1: it's in his barn in Florida, and it is owned
Speaker 1: by Louisvillion Craig mackin and named after Louisville hoops coach
Speaker 1: Pat Kelsey, which is pretty cool. So I did not
Speaker 1: I knew Kenny McPeak was a big time Kentucky fan,
Speaker 1: but I did not know that he has a house divided,
Speaker 1: meaning his his his wife is a big Louisville fan
Speaker 1: and she obviously I mean, if you're a Lotle fan,
Speaker 1: you don't love Pat Kelsey, I think you need to
Speaker 1: reevaluate some things. But anyways, Pat Kelsey earlier this week
Speaker 1: was out at the at the track taken in the
Speaker 1: backside atmosphere, and that came up meaning how he has
Speaker 1: a horse named after him, and let me see if
Speaker 1: I can pull it up here. Let me get the
Speaker 1: sound for you guys. This is here we go. This
Speaker 1: is Pat Kelsey from Churchill Downs.
Speaker 2: Just this whole ecosystem back here amazes me. We were
Speaker 2: invited by Kenny McPeak, who is training a horse that
Speaker 2: was named after me, which I think was like one
Speaker 2: of the coolest things in my professional career. He said,
Speaker 2: it's it's a one year old, so he's still evaluating.
Speaker 2: So we're hoping it hits and I can root for
Speaker 2: Kel's next year. His wife's a huge u of l fan.
Speaker 2: I got to meet Cherry and and so we brought
Speaker 2: a you know, you always got to bring a gear
Speaker 2: package because guys love gear. So I brought a big
Speaker 2: backpack with a bunch of stuff. So we brought half
Speaker 2: of it for Kenny, half of it for Sherry. So
Speaker 2: we'll get him wearing a little red. I think we
Speaker 2: can always turn him around. You never know. All this
Speaker 2: is just absolutely amazing. Torpedo Anna, which was last year's
Speaker 2: Horse of the Year, just being in its presence is crazy.
Speaker 2: You know, you could just tell that that there's something
Speaker 2: special about it when you're in its presence, but just
Speaker 2: all of it. The Kentucky Derby in general is one
Speaker 2: of the greatest spectacles in American sports and to be
Speaker 2: a part of it, especially here in the backside, it's
Speaker 2: really really cool.
Speaker 1: So you know, you could tell he thinks that's a
Speaker 1: pretty cool gesture, and he did try. He tried his
Speaker 1: best to get to get the whole McPeek family rock
Speaker 1: and U of l gear, but not gonna happen. Katie
Speaker 1: McPeak is a big time Kentucky fan and I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure you don't even really have to follow horse racing
Speaker 1: to know that name, but also know that you know,
Speaker 1: thank he's from Lexington, so makes total sense. But yeah,
Speaker 1: after just a season at Louisville, clearly off to a
Speaker 1: good start. Pat Kelsey is there's now a horse named
Speaker 1: after him, and who knows, maybe maybe one day that'll
Speaker 1: be a horse that's in the derby. All right, it's
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Speaker 1: dot com. So One of the things that has come
Speaker 1: up quite a bit really over the last couple of
Speaker 1: years is lawsuits being filed against the NC double A,
Speaker 1: everyone seemingly challenging the NC double A and seeing if
Speaker 1: you know, the courts judges will in fact let the
Speaker 1: NC double A still continue to operate things the way
Speaker 1: they have for forever. And the NC double A has
Speaker 1: had a whole lot of losses when it comes to
Speaker 1: these battles in court, so much so that they really
Speaker 1: kind of stopped fighting. I mean, just to give you
Speaker 1: an example, the blanket waiver that everybody who played Juco
Speaker 1: got was because they just knew that, hey, anybody who
Speaker 1: fights this just liked Diego Pavia, the Vanderbook quarterback, like
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna lose, meaning INT will lose.
Speaker 1: But they did get a win today, and it feels
Speaker 1: like this is a first time in a long time
Speaker 1: that that the NCAA can say they were challenged in
Speaker 1: court and they won. I mean, I suppose there could
Speaker 1: be victories out there for them, and I just you know,
Speaker 1: maybe that's just not as highly highly publicized. But if
Speaker 1: you remember former Kansas guard Mario Chalmers, along with a
Speaker 1: bunch of other former college athletes. They filed a k
Speaker 1: They filed a lawsuit against the NCAA basically claiming that
Speaker 1: that that for some reason I've yet to really understand why,
Speaker 1: but twenty sixteen on, if you played college basketball or
Speaker 1: played college sports, you can opt into this settlement because
Speaker 1: from twenty sixteen on, you know, and you didn't get
Speaker 1: a chance to play in the nil era, you can.
Speaker 1: You can join in on the commun There's a settlement
Speaker 1: that that's going to pay out an insane amount of
Speaker 1: money and I don't know how much is going to
Speaker 1: be given to each each person that joins in on
Speaker 1: the lawsuit. But Mario Chalmers, of course played in the
Speaker 1: NAA long before twenty sixteen, and again he along with others,
Speaker 1: decided to sue the NCAA, saying why should we not
Speaker 1: also be cut in on this settlement? And without knowing
Speaker 1: the real specifics of it, I just know that the
Speaker 1: NC DOUBLEA ruled in favor. I'm sorry that that the
Speaker 1: courts ruled in favor of the NC DOUBLEA. Yeah, Front
Speaker 1: Office Sports had a little update on it earlier, and
Speaker 1: let me just make sure I gueah so says he
Speaker 1: this is from This is from Front Office Sports. They
Speaker 1: mentioned a federal judge dismissed the Chalmers versus nc DOUBLEA
Speaker 1: case and it's Chalmers along with fifteen former football and
Speaker 1: men's basketball players, and they argued that former college athletes
Speaker 1: from the nineteen nineties in early two thousands deserved damages
Speaker 1: for not being able to capitalize on aniol. So again,
Speaker 1: I don't know what because I've always asked that same question,
Speaker 1: like why why would you be entitled twenty sixteen on
Speaker 1: but not prior to that? It doesn't make any sense
Speaker 1: to me. What is different about players that were not
Speaker 1: able to make money off their name, image, and likeness
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen compared to nineteen ninety eight. So I
Speaker 1: just expected the NCAA to lose here, and if they did,
Speaker 1: I would have assumed that that meant like their existence
Speaker 1: is really in danger, because if they won this case,
Speaker 1: it would mean everybody is going to be lining up
Speaker 1: to get paid, and I mean everybody. And I don't
Speaker 1: even know if they would have the I mean, could
Speaker 1: they even pay, Like think about this, and again it's
Speaker 1: not happening, it seems like but if this was success, again,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's In fact, I know that there's a
Speaker 1: lot to it that I'm unaware of, but I've yet
Speaker 1: to hear any specific reason as to why the federal
Speaker 1: judge said, you know, the case was dismissed, because again,
Speaker 1: as I just mentioned, I don't understand why you'd be
Speaker 1: entitled to damages in twenty eighteen but not you know,
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight in previous But that'd be there'd
Speaker 1: be everybody who ever played college athletics would be lining
Speaker 1: up and joining in on this, and there's just not
Speaker 1: is there enough money in the world to pay out
Speaker 1: these these athletes if that was, if that, you know,
Speaker 1: if the lawsuit was successful. So anyways, just thought that
Speaker 1: was worthy of an update. A rare w, a rare
Speaker 1: win here for the NCAA. All right, let's go to
Speaker 1: the text line five oh two four three eight ninety
Speaker 1: seventy three. Again, five O two four three eight ninety
Speaker 1: seventy three is the number if you guys would like
Speaker 1: to text in. This text comes in from Kenny, who says, Nick,
Speaker 1: just curious which transfer for Louisville this year? Do you
Speaker 1: think will be the most important piece meeting? Who has
Speaker 1: to be really good for this team to be a
Speaker 1: second weekend type team. Well, I don't think you have
Speaker 1: to have like an elite player to be like a
Speaker 1: second weekend kind of team. But let's just say. You know,
Speaker 1: because right now, if you look at the early rankings
Speaker 1: for next season in college basketball, and there's many of
Speaker 1: them out there, and some of them do vary, they're
Speaker 1: not all super consistent, but Louisville is viewed from anywhere
Speaker 1: like top five to top fifteen, and maybe you'll find some
Speaker 1: that have like I think John Rosstein has them like
Speaker 1: twenty something. So I would say if they're gonna be
Speaker 1: a team that you feel like, okay, in year two
Speaker 1: of Pat Kelcey, you feel pretty good about being able
Speaker 1: to get a really good seed despite the ACC maybe
Speaker 1: not being loaded, and you know, if you feel like
Speaker 1: you're a team that could get to a final four
Speaker 1: if some things fall your way and you're looking at
Speaker 1: maybe like a top four to five seed in the
Speaker 1: NCAA tournament. As far as the player that is like
Speaker 1: most important, well, I guess i'll answer your question. You
Speaker 1: ask which transfer. So as of right now, there's just
Speaker 1: three of them, and I'm sure they'll add they'll add others.
Speaker 1: I don't know when that'll happen or if they're going
Speaker 1: to be big names. But I would say it's tough,
Speaker 1: and I hate to give you like a cop out
Speaker 1: answer because you know, like I, this is something I
Speaker 1: hadn't really thought about, and here I am on the
Speaker 1: spot and I can't really I mean, I think the
Speaker 1: guys that you added specifically from the transfer portal, you know,
Speaker 1: I it's not necessarily one guy that you're sitting here thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: this guy is just he's going to be able to
Speaker 1: take us to a different level. He's different, He's got,
Speaker 1: you know, uber talent compared to the rest of the roster.
Speaker 1: He can do things that nobody else can. I just
Speaker 1: don't think that's that that that's that's the scenario here
Speaker 1: with these three guys. So Ryan Conwell from Xavier, a
Speaker 1: good shooter, veteran, played a lot of college basketball, combo guard,
Speaker 1: more more of a two guard. I mean, he's gonna
Speaker 1: play off the ball. Isaac McNeely, I mean he's more
Speaker 1: of just a flat out shooter, a guy that was
Speaker 1: right behind Rain Smith when it comes to three point
Speaker 1: shooting in the ACC. In fact, I think he shot
Speaker 1: a better percentage, but he made I mean, he was
Speaker 1: second in three point field goals made in the ACC
Speaker 1: outside of rain Smith, so good company there. And then
Speaker 1: with Adrian Woolley, you know, he was a superstar freshman
Speaker 1: at a low level of Division one at Knnessas State,
Speaker 1: but he put up huge numbers and was you know,
Speaker 1: really really special and clearly he proved right out of
Speaker 1: the gate he was a lot better than the level
Speaker 1: he was playing at. So I mean, I think of
Speaker 1: all three of those guys bring really the same, Like, like,
Speaker 1: there's no way Woolley averages the same amount of points
Speaker 1: that he did at Kennesaw State here at Louisville. I
Speaker 1: guess it's possible. But like, these three guys, like they're
Speaker 1: not even going to need to be doing as much
Speaker 1: here at Louisville as they did at their previous school
Speaker 1: because I think all of them are now joining a
Speaker 1: better situation. So of the three transfers, all are going
Speaker 1: to be important. But I'm on the spot here, and
Speaker 1: yes I'm spinning my wheels because I don't really know.
Speaker 1: I mean, and also, if if you'd that's the question
Speaker 1: and we were in the previous world and it was
Speaker 1: based mostly off of freshman that's a little bit easier
Speaker 1: to answer. But like these guys, I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: there's a scenario that they don't really translate. But like
Speaker 1: Isaac McNeely, he played in the ACC, so he can
Speaker 1: do what he was able to do at Virginia, put
Speaker 1: up big numbers playing against you know, a good schedule.
Speaker 1: I have no reason to think that like, he won't
Speaker 1: be able to do that here. In fact, I think
Speaker 1: he's going to be in a system that fits him
Speaker 1: even better to where he might really have a I mean,
Speaker 1: think about this. He put up the numbers he did
Speaker 1: in Virginia playing Virginia style basketball in a system that
Speaker 1: Pat Kelsey has. This guy, I mean, he's going to
Speaker 1: get a lot of great looks and if he continues
Speaker 1: to be the really good shooter he's been his entire
Speaker 1: college career, that's going to be a good recipe for Louisville.
Speaker 1: So with conwell, you know, at Xavier, I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about will his production from the Big East carry over
Speaker 1: to the ACC. I mean, he was an All ACC performan.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry he was an All Big East performer and lasted.
Speaker 1: I mean, Big East is a better league than the ACC.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I think of these guys, I mean,
Speaker 1: with your question being a little bit, you know, who's
Speaker 1: most important When you ask it that way, I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: all right, who do we really need to make sure
Speaker 1: they bring what they what they produced at their previous school.
Speaker 1: But I just don't really think that's much of a question.
Speaker 1: Like if if Ryan Conwell and Isaac McNeely are unable
Speaker 1: to really kind of you know, fond footing and do
Speaker 1: the same kind of things they were doing at their
Speaker 1: previous school, I'd be highly surprised because I actually think
Speaker 1: they're going to be in a system now that better
Speaker 1: suits what they can do, meaning play fast, get good
Speaker 1: looks and transition and you know, make three shoot threes.
Speaker 1: I mean that's what that's what pack Kelsey wants to do.
Speaker 1: So I guess, woolly, I feel like if he does
Speaker 1: have a little bit of an adjustment, right, instead of
Speaker 1: averaging nineteen a game, let's say he's only averaging seven
Speaker 1: or eight. Like, I don't think that'd be the the world,
Speaker 1: because he's not going to be needed to score as
Speaker 1: many points he's did at Kennessas State. But I will say,
Speaker 1: you know, if he does, if he's if he's a
Speaker 1: guy that adjusts nicely, and you know, you get to
Speaker 1: mid January and he's like your second leading scorer, averaging
Speaker 1: like thirteen or fourteen games something like that. I would
Speaker 1: say that that's huge, meaning you know, you didn't just
Speaker 1: bring up a guy who was pretty pretty damn good
Speaker 1: at that level. You brought up a guy that is
Speaker 1: you know, still able to you know, score at a
Speaker 1: pretty high level. So I guess I would say woolly
Speaker 1: just because there's more of an unknown there, Like I
Speaker 1: expect him to be solid, but you know, but there's
Speaker 1: also a chance that he could really thrive by playing
Speaker 1: around better players. Now this isn't the question that you asked,
Speaker 1: but I think the guy who really is the potential
Speaker 1: difference maker for Louisville is case In Pryor, just because
Speaker 1: you know, last year in four or five games, however, man,
Speaker 1: it was that he played like you could see that
Speaker 1: he's got he's got something that Louisville was able to
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, live without because they still had
Speaker 1: a good season. But there's plays that Cason made that
Speaker 1: really there's nobody else on the team that was capable
Speaker 1: of making those plays. Maybe CANi Russ just because of
Speaker 1: the similar build and athleticism. But if Cason's fully healthy,
Speaker 1: and you know, you've got a good three point shooting
Speaker 1: team like you you know, seemingly have, He's just going
Speaker 1: to have a lot of opportunity to slash and maybe knocked.
Speaker 1: I mean, he shot a lot of threes last year.
Speaker 1: In fact, he shot more than I would have wanted
Speaker 1: to see him shoot. But and he didn't shoot a
Speaker 1: great percentage. But I mean he could benefit from the
Speaker 1: opposing teams just having to worry so much about Louisville's perimeter,
Speaker 1: and you know, he could he could really take advantage
Speaker 1: of that. So like, if Cason is I guess the
Speaker 1: guy that we hoped he would be last year prior
Speaker 1: to the injury, just an athletic, versatile guy that can rim,
Speaker 1: you can rimp protect for, you can play above the rim. Also,
Speaker 1: you know, if you've got a big guy guarding him,
Speaker 1: I mean that's a mismatch because yeah, Casein's I guess
Speaker 1: considered a front court player. But he's got a good handle,
Speaker 1: he's pretty quick. So to me, Prior, like you know,
Speaker 1: Louis could still be really good. If Prior's just you know,
Speaker 1: like Louisvill could have a really put it. Let me
Speaker 1: put it this way, louisvill could have a really good
Speaker 1: team that looks like they have a chance to you know,
Speaker 1: get a good seat and make a Final four if
Speaker 1: their strength is more so based off of a collection
Speaker 1: of good players than maybe one or two guys that
Speaker 1: are just you know different, like last year, especially when
Speaker 1: the injuries took place to Cason and de Koran Johnson,
Speaker 1: I mean, Chucky Hepburn became an All American and you
Speaker 1: needed that. Without Chucky being you know, as great as
Speaker 1: he was, you know, Louisville still would have won plenty
Speaker 1: of games, but obviously he was he was special. Rain
Speaker 1: Smith at times was special just because he could get
Speaker 1: hot and change the game in a big way. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't that's one of the benefits of
Speaker 1: really bringing back some good pieces like Hadley pryor can
Speaker 1: I You've got Khalifa and Rogers that are that are
Speaker 1: going to be healthy and ready to go, Mickel Brown,
Speaker 1: the freshman All American, and then Sonny Frew, who's kind
Speaker 1: of not really a mystery, but you know he's somebody
Speaker 1: none of us had ever heard of until he committed.
Speaker 1: And you look at what he's doing over there in
Speaker 1: his pro league, and you know, you've got to be excited.
Speaker 1: So I think this could be a team where depth
Speaker 1: and really just having you know, a lot of good
Speaker 1: players could really benefit you and that could be your strength.
Speaker 1: But who knows, maybe you have that, But there's a
Speaker 1: couple of guys that really are I guess, you know,
Speaker 1: difference makers, Guys that the opposing team knows it's going
Speaker 1: to be a long night for them because they don't
Speaker 1: really have somebody to totally, you know, match what you
Speaker 1: have with a case in pryor so that that's more
Speaker 1: so what I mean when it comes to that. But
Speaker 1: good question, because clearly you got me stumped. I'm probably
Speaker 1: talking in circles here, but I would say Woolley is
Speaker 1: is a guy that I think if he is close
Speaker 1: to what he was doing last year Atkennesesau, that could
Speaker 1: really be a big, big I mean, it could be
Speaker 1: a special thing for Louisville. But I don't really think
Speaker 1: there's like a lot of pressure. I think you got
Speaker 1: good pieces to where there's not any newcomer coming in
Speaker 1: where you're like, man, this guy doesn't give us XYZ,
Speaker 1: We're in trouble and honestly, when the injuries took place
Speaker 1: last year, that's what you were worried about, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: you knew that Hadley had to become what he became
Speaker 1: if you were going to have a chance of being
Speaker 1: a good team. He did that. You knew that Terrence
Speaker 1: Edwards really had to step up because he wasn't playing well.
Speaker 1: And now Korn Johnson's not coming back at all. Chucky
Speaker 1: had to really kind of, you know, take on the
Speaker 1: role of Hey, I got to at times maybe put
Speaker 1: this team on my back, and I've got to be
Speaker 1: one of the best defensive players in the country. But also,
Speaker 1: you know this tribute and score sixteen seventeen a game.
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Speaker 1: right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. You know, there
Speaker 1: are a lot of things in life that we just
Speaker 1: never see coming. And I think Bill Belichick's current situation
Speaker 1: is one that I think you'd have a hard time
Speaker 1: finding anybody that would tell you that, Yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: that surprising that you know, at his age he's dating
Speaker 1: somebody that he's young enough to be his granddaughter and
Speaker 1: it's not that surprising. I always thought he would come
Speaker 1: back and coach in college at North Carolina. I mean again,
Speaker 1: I think everybody is well aware that you know, nobody
Speaker 1: saw this coming. Imagine telling somebody even two years ago
Speaker 1: that Bill Belichick would be in the situation that he's
Speaker 1: in right now. But this one is an extreme level
Speaker 1: of like, no, I'm just just stop for a moment
Speaker 1: and think about what you would have said to somebody
Speaker 1: two years ago that would that would have told you
Speaker 1: that Belichick would be where he is right now. You
Speaker 1: would not believe it. You wouldn't see a scenario where
Speaker 1: it was possible. But it's real. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: things in life, and you know, as really in the
Speaker 1: life really since the pandemic, I feel like since twenty sixteen, really,
Speaker 1: I guess more than anything, there's just like is this real?
Speaker 1: Is this is this life? This can't be real? And
Speaker 1: the Belichick situation is certainly one of those. It's coffee
Speaker 1: and company. Where feel about Thorton's here on Sports Talk
Speaker 1: seven ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with us. So the
Speaker 1: interview that Belichick did over the weekend, I don't know
Speaker 1: when the interview actually took place, but it was aired
Speaker 1: on CBS on Sunday, and I mean, yeah, it was
Speaker 1: CBS Mornings, and I mean it was beyond weird. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure by now a lot of you have heard
Speaker 1: about how awkward it was, and I mean it was
Speaker 1: so cringe and uncomfortable, Like I couldn't listen to it
Speaker 1: in its entirety. But for those who you know, don't
Speaker 1: know the overall, you know, the overall story. Here Belichick
Speaker 1: did an interview and I guess it was just to
Speaker 1: you know, promote his book, talk about his life now,
Speaker 1: and when asked about his situation with his girlfriend, Jordan Hudson,
Speaker 1: who is twenty four years old, you know, it just
Speaker 1: seemed to me, I'll just give you my thoughts. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that this is, you know, what I believe,
Speaker 1: because I don't know how the hell this whole thing
Speaker 1: came together. But I don't I don't believe it's real.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that like they're not together. I
Speaker 1: think that this is like an arrangement where she's benefiting
Speaker 1: from this and he is too, But like, are they
Speaker 1: actually an item? You know, the heart wants what the
Speaker 1: heart wants, but I just I don't believe that they're
Speaker 1: a thing romantically or maybe you know, I just maybe
Speaker 1: it's just something I don't want to believe because it's
Speaker 1: kind of gross, and there's nothing wrong with saying that,
Speaker 1: is there. I mean, Bill Belichick is how old? I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean he's at least yeah, I was gonna say's
Speaker 1: at least seventy. He's seventy three years old, and she
Speaker 1: he's twenty four. I mean, live your life, do what
Speaker 1: you want. I would say no judgment, but I think
Speaker 1: i'd be lying because, like I think, if you're a
Speaker 1: seventy three year old man, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: where I'm going to be at seventy three, but like,
Speaker 1: I just would feel insanely uncomfortable with somebody that much
Speaker 1: younger than me, at least I think I would. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe at Bill's age, I'll be thinking differently,
Speaker 1: but I mean him coaching in college is even a
Speaker 1: odd thing that I just don't know why Carolina decided
Speaker 1: to do that. But the girlfriend thing has become an
Speaker 1: issue to where like, maybe he's not coaching Carolina because
Speaker 1: TMZ is reporting that they're kind of I don't know
Speaker 1: if they're weirded out by it or what. But I
Speaker 1: mean the reports that TMZ had claimed that they're starting
Speaker 1: to grow concerned as far as like her involvement because
Speaker 1: I don't think she's actually on the staff, but like
Speaker 1: if you've seen some of some of the footage from
Speaker 1: the SPOR practices and I'm not sure if it was
Speaker 1: a spring game or what it was, but you know,
Speaker 1: like she's out there almost like running the show and
Speaker 1: I don't know where she would be qualified to do that,
Speaker 1: and like it just it seems really weird. But where
Speaker 1: it got real weird in the interview was that it's
Speaker 1: almost as if the guy that was asking the questions
Speaker 1: maybe he had a hunch that the story that she
Speaker 1: had shared long ago when it first became a story
Speaker 1: that they were an item. She said they met on
Speaker 1: a plane, And when when asked again, how did you
Speaker 1: guys meet, I mean again, I feel like it was
Speaker 1: almost kind of like a setup because it's well docted,
Speaker 1: because that's the first question everybody asked, how the hell
Speaker 1: this happen? How did these two become an item? And
Speaker 1: the story that she had shared long ago was that
Speaker 1: they met on a plane and they just started, you know,
Speaker 1: small talk, and you know, then they became I guess
Speaker 1: romantically involved, and one thing led to another, and now
Speaker 1: they're dating boyfriend and girlfriend. I mean imagine bringing Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring my boyfriend home. But I just want
Speaker 1: you guys to know he's a little bit older than me.
Speaker 1: And then she rolls in with Bill Belichick, who's again old.
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is probably old enough to be her parents' parents, right,
Speaker 1: I mean seventy three and twenty four. So anyways, when
Speaker 1: asked on the interview about where they met, that's why
Speaker 1: I feel like it seemed like a setup, because that
Speaker 1: guy in that situation doing that interview, I wish I
Speaker 1: knew his name, but I don't he would know, like
Speaker 1: he would know how they met, because that's that's pretty
Speaker 1: well documented. And if you're gonna interview Bill Belichick and
Speaker 1: you know clearly one of the things you're gonna ask
Speaker 1: about is his girlfriend, you're you know, you're gonna know that.
Speaker 1: But he, you know, he presented it as if he
Speaker 1: didn't know that, or maybe it wasn't true, but he said,
Speaker 1: how did you guys meet? And then instantly she said,
Speaker 1: we're not going to talk about that. We're not we're
Speaker 1: not going there. And then now TMZ reports that the
Speaker 1: interview was actually way worse and you know, just uncomfortable
Speaker 1: than what was shown on television because they had to
Speaker 1: take a break because she stormed out and she you know,
Speaker 1: was expecting him to follow her out, and I guess
Speaker 1: ask what was going like why she was upset he
Speaker 1: didn't do that, I mean, and then when they were
Speaker 1: asking him questions about his they're asking him questions about
Speaker 1: his his social media stuff that he's involved in, like
Speaker 1: where he's got pictures doing yoga with her. I mean,
Speaker 1: either he's a really good I mean Belichick again, a
Speaker 1: lot of things that just make no sense at all,
Speaker 1: and you just think there's no way that's true. More
Speaker 1: often than not, it's not true. Do you all think
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's out here posting photos of him doing yoga
Speaker 1: poses with his twenty four year old girlfriend like that?
Speaker 1: That just doesn't compute. So I think what's happening here?
Speaker 1: And he kind of said it without saying it, that
Speaker 1: he's always about doing what's the best for him and
Speaker 1: his you know, his career, his situation, and I think
Speaker 1: having a twenty four year old girlfriend at the age
Speaker 1: of seventy four or twenty three or seventy three is
Speaker 1: like him showing people that despite being old, he's still
Speaker 1: with it. He's still he's actually young at heart, because
Speaker 1: here he is out here, you know, posting stuff on
Speaker 1: the Gram like twenty year olds do. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know just if you're getting Bill Belichick in your
Speaker 1: North Carolina, I feel like you you know, you this
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, this guy who's you know, letting seemingly a
Speaker 1: twenty four year old kind of run the program, do everything,
Speaker 1: but you know, actually coach the x's and o's. That's
Speaker 1: that's what she's allegedly doing. Like you're not getting You're
Speaker 1: not getting the guy that would be worth hiring if
Speaker 1: that's the Bill Belichick you're getting. Also, I think things
Speaker 1: that you really really need to be able to do
Speaker 1: as a college coach right now that have become really
Speaker 1: important in this new world of nil on the transfer portal,
Speaker 1: I feel like Belichick is the least compatible coach. He's
Speaker 1: not relatable. I mean people were selling like, well, hey,
Speaker 1: he's actually it's now pro football because you know, you
Speaker 1: got transfers like free agents, and you know you got
Speaker 1: to pay players, so you know, it's actually perfect. No.
Speaker 1: I mean, you think college kids are gonna be able
Speaker 1: to relate to Bill Belichick. You think they're going to
Speaker 1: be able to be able to pick up the phone
Speaker 1: and call him and talk about like something going on
Speaker 1: in their life or like make a connection. Like Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick seems like the least approachable person ever. Even guys
Speaker 1: who played for him that probably loved him because they
Speaker 1: had a lot of success together, they probably feel like
Speaker 1: they've never had a real conversation with the guy. He's
Speaker 1: like a robot, a football robot. So, like, everything about
Speaker 1: this made no sense to me. Again, on the surface,
Speaker 1: you're thinking, well, you got a chance to go hire
Speaker 1: a dude who won a bunch of Super Bowls. Why
Speaker 1: the hell would you not do it? From that aspect
Speaker 1: only it makes sense. But think about how much everything
Speaker 1: has changed in college sports, and if the NFL doesn't
Speaker 1: think Belichick can relate to players and build a staff
Speaker 1: and succeed in the you know, in the current time,
Speaker 1: what makes you think he's going to be able to
Speaker 1: do it in college like he might? You know, maybe
Speaker 1: he is the guy that just has so much respect
Speaker 1: as a football coach that he will still be able
Speaker 1: to run things the way that old coaches used to
Speaker 1: run it whenever guys would never leave because they couldn't transfer.
Speaker 1: I mean, it seemed like even Bill Belichick ran his pro,
Speaker 1: ran his franchise in the NFL much more like a
Speaker 1: you know, like a like a dictator. Then then, you
Speaker 1: know a lot of guys are players coaches now, right,
Speaker 1: Like you got to be able to relate these NFL players.
Speaker 1: They know they're making millions of dollars, they're making more
Speaker 1: than you. They know that they are more valuable to
Speaker 1: the franchise than you are as a coach. So therefore,
Speaker 1: like you got to be able to relate, the players
Speaker 1: got to be able to respect you. Belichick, you know,
Speaker 1: he did it the old school way and it worked
Speaker 1: for a really long time until it didn't. So I've
Speaker 1: always felt like it just none of this makes sense
Speaker 1: when you really consider how much has changed for both
Speaker 1: Belichick and you know, football, college football specifically. But now
Speaker 1: you throw in this weird element of this girlfriend, who
Speaker 1: is you know, I guess already worrying North Carolina about
Speaker 1: her involvement and it being a little much. I mean,
Speaker 1: I doubt they'd make a move and fire him, because
Speaker 1: that would be you know, that would make him look really,
Speaker 1: really bad. But yeah, TMZ is now reporting that the
Speaker 1: disastrous CBS interview was even worse than what we saw
Speaker 1: because they had to cut thirty minutes from it and
Speaker 1: she'd stormed out in the middle of it and expected
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick to follow her, and I guess he didn't.
Speaker 1: Then he realized he probably should have. And yeah, just
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, like why would they even connect,
Speaker 1: why even do the interview? And I guess it's to
Speaker 1: promote a book. And I'm sure that like he probably
Speaker 1: you know, as far as whoever's publishing this book that
Speaker 1: he's talking about, Like, I'm sure there's an agreement that
Speaker 1: if you're if we're going to do this, and we're
Speaker 1: going to be the publisher for your book, and you've
Speaker 1: got to be a part of the promotion because we
Speaker 1: need to sell books. But like having her off to
Speaker 1: the side in the shot, like she probably didn't know
Speaker 1: she was in it, but she's standing off to the
Speaker 1: side or sitting, I should say. And you know, they
Speaker 1: do some wide angle to where you can actually see
Speaker 1: some behind the scenes production equipment, like you know, the
Speaker 1: full setup of the interview, and it's because they realize
Speaker 1: we may have something here, like we're supposed to be
Speaker 1: talking about to Belichick about his book, but like this, this,
Speaker 1: this is spicy. Let's let's get her in the shot
Speaker 1: too and see what happens. And didn't take long for
Speaker 1: her to yell, we're not talking about that, which now
Speaker 1: makes everybody assume that the story about how they met
Speaker 1: was a lie. And you know, she didn't even want
Speaker 1: to go down that path because then she would be
Speaker 1: caught in her lie. Here's here's what I think we'll
Speaker 1: find out more before it's all said and done, as
Speaker 1: far as like this whole situation, how it came about
Speaker 1: what the real like, what the real benefit is for
Speaker 1: Belichick here, and what the real benefit is for her?
Speaker 1: I guess for her it's relevance money, and for Bill
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean, I'm sure guys in the seventies,
Speaker 1: in their seventies wouldn't mind having a twenty year old
Speaker 1: attractive woman twenty something year old. She's twenty four, so
Speaker 1: she's not twenty, but twenty something year old to come
Speaker 1: home to and spend some time with. Like it's probably
Speaker 1: a dream to certain guys. But like a real relationship boyfriend, girlfriend,
Speaker 1: Like it's just, you know, it doesn't make sense. And
Speaker 1: usually when things don't make sense to this level of
Speaker 1: not making sense, there's way more to it, and I
Speaker 1: think eventually we're gonna find out more. Also, there's some
Speaker 1: that claim that this could be like elder abuse, to
Speaker 1: where she's just taking advantage of an old guy with
Speaker 1: a bunch of money who's trying to just you know,
Speaker 1: like Belichick probably doesn't have any social I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: there's something we don't see on TV. But like I mean,
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick to me was an absolute robot that had
Speaker 1: no emotion, no, I mean no life to him. And
Speaker 1: I don't say that to insult him. That's probably a
Speaker 1: pretty mean thing to say, you have no life to you,
Speaker 1: But like think about it, think about you know, what
Speaker 1: we saw from Bill Belichick and what we got out
Speaker 1: of Bill Belichick for twenty plus years. Now. I know
Speaker 1: there's always the well, we don't really know these people.
Speaker 1: We don't know what's going on behind the scenes in
Speaker 1: their life. We just see them on TV coaching, of course,
Speaker 1: But I'm willing to bet that Belichick, what you see
Speaker 1: is what you get. Like, I don't think there's some
Speaker 1: some wildcat that's just you know, lively and full of
Speaker 1: energy and always running around with twenty something year old women.
Speaker 1: It's just very odd, very weird at least, you know,
Speaker 1: that's my opinion. Maybe there's some guys in their seventies
Speaker 1: right now thinking, hey, why don't you shut the hell up?
Speaker 2: Nick?
Speaker 1: Bill's living the dream. And I guess if that's the case,
Speaker 1: then you know, that's the way you see it. That's
Speaker 1: the way you see it, all right, It's Coffee and Company.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to believe that sports gambling here
Speaker 1: in Kentucky has only been legal for roughly two years, right,
Speaker 1: it was two years ago whenever they got it done
Speaker 1: as far as you know, in Frankfurt. But actually, you know,
Speaker 1: us being able to go and make a wager, that
Speaker 1: was it actually hasn't even been two years, I think
Speaker 1: because of the explosion that we've had with sports betting
Speaker 1: not only being you know, a big talking point you
Speaker 1: got to keep in mind. For a long time, it
Speaker 1: wasn't you know, not only it wasn't legal, but like
Speaker 1: mentioning spreads or talking of sports gambling in national sports conversation,
Speaker 1: meaning like college basketball, NFL, NBA, like it was just
Speaker 1: unheard of. It was looked at as dirty and sly
Speaker 1: me and now you can't watch any sports without seeing
Speaker 1: that these professional leagues are you know, clearly in bed
Speaker 1: with with these sports books and everybody's making a lot
Speaker 1: of money. So I've been a big fan of sports
Speaker 1: gambling for a long time, meaning I just I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess, can you be a fan of it? I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess you can, But like what I mean more
Speaker 1: so than just I'm a fan, like go sports betting.
Speaker 1: I just enjoy it. I've advocated for it. I think
Speaker 1: it is and I think we're seeing the proof that
Speaker 1: it gives an added level of entertainment to watching sports
Speaker 1: that wasn't there. And I mean I think those who think,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just a waste of a bunch of
Speaker 1: money and that it becomes a big problem and people
Speaker 1: become gambling addicts and they gamble, gamble their life away.
Speaker 1: I mean that I'm sure there are some people that
Speaker 1: have done that. In fact, I know that there are
Speaker 1: that there are people that have done that, But like
Speaker 1: if they're going to do it regardless right. I mean,
Speaker 1: so I'm glad that sports gambling is now legal. I
Speaker 1: think it's it's really helped the industry that I'm in
Speaker 1: because when it comes to you know, content like this
Speaker 1: sports content that's on the radio, that's on a podcast,
Speaker 1: that's on television, you know, regardless of rooting interest, if
Speaker 1: people are interested in sports betting and you're talking about
Speaker 1: the action, you're talking about picks and analyzing games and whatnot, like,
Speaker 1: that's just that's inner that that's content that can you know,
Speaker 1: people are going to be interested in, which you know,
Speaker 1: let's go check. That's a big part of what all
Speaker 1: this is. So I say all that to say that
Speaker 1: if in fact, there is a change made here at
Speaker 1: the college level with player prop bets, I totally understand it,
Speaker 1: totally get it. And you know, I'm not out here
Speaker 1: advocating that they make a change, but if they did,
Speaker 1: it really should be something that we should not be
Speaker 1: surprised by. So the NUAA has recently renewed and expanded
Speaker 1: their partnership with a company called Genius Sports. They are
Speaker 1: a data provider and in this in this renewed partnership,
Speaker 1: they want to and by the way, what this company
Speaker 1: does is they provide real time statistics to sports books,
Speaker 1: and you know, just think about levels and layers of
Speaker 1: statistics that you probably didn't even know existed. But in
Speaker 1: this new deal where the n s DOUABA again is
Speaker 1: going to give business to Genia Sports, they want them
Speaker 1: to have these sports books agree to ban player based
Speaker 1: props in college sports only. So this is what the
Speaker 1: n SAA is doing to try to eliminate, you know,
Speaker 1: prop bets based on individual individual performances because of obvious
Speaker 1: things that have happened. I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 1: we've had full on like charges to college basketball players,
Speaker 1: but obviously the Javante Porter situation in the NBA, I
Speaker 1: mean that whole gambling ring. You know, they had their
Speaker 1: they had their hands on a lot of stuff, including
Speaker 1: college basketball players that were in on helping their team
Speaker 1: either cover or not cover or you know, maybe making
Speaker 1: sure that they didn't get over the rebound number total
Speaker 1: that was set out there. So under this new agreement,
Speaker 1: sports books must also share data with the NCUBLEA meaning
Speaker 1: like the geolocation and device records, so they'll have a
Speaker 1: better ability to track if their college athletes are in
Speaker 1: fact gambling, which you know, they're not allowed to do
Speaker 1: so if you really think about it, player props in college,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I guess to say that
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be allowed. I don't mean, who am I
Speaker 1: to say? But I just think you really run a
Speaker 1: risk of college athletes doing this more so than pro athletes.
Speaker 1: Now again, there have been pro athletes that have you know,
Speaker 1: a weekly because there's there's there's the example of Javonte Porter,
Speaker 1: who was already you know, he's in the NBA, but
Speaker 1: he's not a big time god that's got you know,
Speaker 1: a crazy contract with so much money guaranteed. But still
Speaker 1: you know, he's making an NBA an NBA salary. Therefore
Speaker 1: he's making a lot more more money than the average person,
Speaker 1: and he just got greedy and he was stupid. But
Speaker 1: there's also guys that do it not because they want
Speaker 1: to make money. They actually just enjoy it and then
Speaker 1: they realize, yeah, we'll make an example out of you.
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley was just gambling for fun like you and
Speaker 1: I do on the NFL, but you know he wasn't
Speaker 1: supposed to do it, so he got suspended for an
Speaker 1: entire season. So you know, like there's there's all kinds
Speaker 1: of examples of guy's doing it just because they're they're
Speaker 1: being stupid and they're in they're just you know, not realizing, hey,
Speaker 1: I know you probably want to bet, but you can
Speaker 1: because you know you're actually in the NFL. And then
Speaker 1: there's guys like Javonte Porter who didn't need the money,
Speaker 1: but just you know, probably tried to get greedy, realizing hey,
Speaker 1: I could probably get involved here and and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe end up taking more money from the sports books
Speaker 1: than the NBA paying me. So at the college level,
Speaker 1: you do have guys now that are making millions because
Speaker 1: of nil. But when I saw the list of schools
Speaker 1: that were believed to be involved, meaning there's connections, meaning
Speaker 1: the those those gambling on the Javante Porter stuff, they
Speaker 1: that those same those same people that got caught, they
Speaker 1: were also gambling large amounts of money on random college
Speaker 1: basketball games from places like you and C A and
Speaker 1: T or not. Yeah, North Carolina A and T, Florida
Speaker 1: A and M. And those are probably the most vulnerable
Speaker 1: types of student athletes that would that would maybe more
Speaker 1: so now than ever, feel like they'll risk it because
Speaker 1: they're they're not making money like guys are at the
Speaker 1: high level, and if nobody was making money, then maybe
Speaker 1: they would say, yeah, that's stupid, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: do that. But when they know that, like you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of conferences up there, there's guys making full
Speaker 1: time salaries that are you know, six figures, and they're
Speaker 1: and they're making probably very little because again they're playing
Speaker 1: at the lowest level of D one, there could be
Speaker 1: some envy and that might make them say, you know,
Speaker 1: what the hell with it, Yeah I will, I will
Speaker 1: shave some points, I will cook the books if you will,
Speaker 1: and make sure that my my props, you know, they
Speaker 1: don't go over or under, so we can we can
Speaker 1: you know, cash in big time. And they're not the
Speaker 1: ones who was actually I mean, I don't think they
Speaker 1: were the ones actually making the bets, but they were
Speaker 1: clearly doing it and letting you know, the the gambling
Speaker 1: ring connected to Javonte Porter in that group, they were
Speaker 1: letting these athletes know, hey, make sure you don't get
Speaker 1: eight rebounds or make sure you lose, or make sure
Speaker 1: you win you don't win by too much. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure they were getting a cut of that in some
Speaker 1: former fashion. So you know, there's always going to be
Speaker 1: when you have gambling legal, even if it's not legal.
Speaker 1: I mean, keep in mind, before gambling was legal in
Speaker 1: as many states as it is right now. As far
Speaker 1: as sports gambling, you still have stories of college players
Speaker 1: getting involved with bookies and doing things for you know,
Speaker 1: cause it's sports books out in Vegas. Like it's there's
Speaker 1: always going to be a threat of it happening, regardless
Speaker 1: if it was legalized the way it is now or not.
Speaker 1: But I think as long as you continue to make
Speaker 1: examples out of everybody, then that's the best chance. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the best chance of keeping people from realizing, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could ruin my life by making this really dumb
Speaker 1: in the moment decision just to make some money. And again,
Speaker 1: money's powerful thing. Money makes people do things that you
Speaker 1: know they probably would never do. But man, a big
Speaker 1: payday is enticing to people. So this is one that
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not saying, hey, you need to get
Speaker 1: rid of it, but if they do, I think it
Speaker 1: would make sense to a lot of us, because that,
Speaker 1: I think is where you really see some vulnerability with
Speaker 1: players realizing, Okay, I'm not getting paid like these guys
Speaker 1: are in the acc I need to cash in now
Speaker 1: because you know, when I leave, I won't be walking
Speaker 1: away with a bunch of money in the bank like
Speaker 1: players at the college level that are playing at the
Speaker 1: highest level. All right, stick around, We've got plenty more
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