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Speaker 1: What is up, Fellows, It goes, I am damn Valley

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coming at you with the one the only, my certified

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Fantabular's co host, mister Grant Hughes, more playoffs to talk

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about and more sad.

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Speaker 2: News to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, with Jason Tatum, will probably dig into that first

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before we belly flop into it all though, brand how

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm a little taken aback at like how many

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big news things happened all in one day or like

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one thirty six hour stretch. So we got a lot

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of get lots to get through. So it's not about me,

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It's about the pod Today.

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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum fourth quarter injury against the Knicks goes after

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a loose ball like off a Jalen Brown turnover. On

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the replay, it looked like in Achilles. His reaction was

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gut wrenching. That's we're recording this. We do not have

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any confirmation as to what the injury actually is, but

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I felt like his reaction actually said it all. And

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I don't know how to feel. I know that these

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are players that are in the public eye, but when

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you see sort of the the trauma content of him

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in a wheelchair with his hands in his face, maybe crying.

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It resonates, for sure, but it also feels like intrusive

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upon which would be a really intimate personal moment, and

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now it's just going around for everyone to see. It's

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you hope for the best, but like this seems like

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a worst case scenario that's going to have ramifications on

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the Celtics well beyond this series against the next.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot to unpack. I mean, I I

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texted you, what did I say, like broken foot question

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or something like that, because the I hadn't seen the

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like I hadn't seen the angle. That made it fairly,

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I mean not fairly, made it very clear the Achilles

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was involved. I'd seen the above, like the bird's eye

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angle when I texted you, and it looked you could

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just see like the foot tweak. And it turns out

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that's probably because the Achilles kind of let go and

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that's why the foot like looked like it. And then

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I found myself hoping, like, oh, I hope it's a

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broken foot, you know, But I thought his reaction was

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because because that's part of the reason I didn't think

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Achilles right away, because his reaction was was more pronounced

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than usual, because usually the reaction involves like confusion, because

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that you always hear guys felt like they got kicked

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or something and they look behind them and and it's

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it's not like you think of like Lillard or you

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think of Kobe, or you think of all these other

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guys that have had it had the Achilles injury, and

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they're not they don't react the way Tatum did. But

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I think it's because he knew, and I think it

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was more of an emotion, like it hit him pretty quickly.

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This is a big one and like all the costs

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that we're going to talk about, I think hit him

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at once, and the you know, it's really hard to

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to we're not far enough away from it, but I do.

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My My feeling right now is his reaction was endearing

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in a way because it's like he doesn't react that

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way if he doesn't care, and like no one's ever

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said like, oh Tatum doesn't care, like quite the opposite.

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But it does drive home the point like how how

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important all this, Like this is like playing professional basketball

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and winning a championship and trying to hold this team

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together and like that's like that's everything and you saw

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that all come out, and so it was a very

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human moment. Having said that, the like camera in the

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tunnel on him in the wheelchair, I could have done without, Yeah,

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because that crossed over from it's it's endearing and you're

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like with him to this feels like an intrusion and

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this feels like a moment we shouldn't be seeing, like

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we get it, like he's devastated. I don't need I

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don't I didn't need to see the like let's follow

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him further down this like grieving process, I guess is

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what he's in. You know. So that was tough. But

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so that stuff aside, like I think unless you have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just in the moment, it's it's these injuries are

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never good, but this is someone who was in the

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the stakes are just so high. But also just seeing

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the reaction from the Knicks themselves where it's if you

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go back and watch it, you just see Karl Anthony

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was nothing to celebrate, and a lot of people were

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just kind of interpreting that as jobs not done, which

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just felt like it sucked the air out of all

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that because they understand what it is. And look, in

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Tatum's case, he has a shit ton of money. It's

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good for him that he signed his contract when he

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did and that's going to be guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: And he got a title too, by the way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he got a title as he didn't win

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finals MVP. But no one's ever questioned whether he's I

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have a real conversation has ever questioned that he's the

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best player, right. And look, he's young enough to where

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you hope that he can come back in a similar

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vein to Kevin Durant was older and like Kevin Durant

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came back and was still very close to Kevin Durant.

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it doesn't He's not overly reliant on explosive movements. But

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like his on ball like shimmys and directionality and like

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getting to that side step three pointer. Then just also

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of all the things that he could do. No, you

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don't necessarily want him checking the primary guy and the

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other team. Does that get impacted at all? You just

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the recovery time is the recovery time next year is

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probably gone. But when you come back, like is this

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more of an you know, like ACL's were at one

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point considering like career ending, if not altering, and maybe

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that you could see this or at least hope that

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he comes back still a star and doesn't have to

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deal with reaggravation. It just and the other thing I'm

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is you you have to think about like the long

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term implications of this, which feels so inhumane.

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Speaker 1: Way, because it's just like but there's a series to

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talked a lot about probably all the like the real

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changes won't come until twenty twenty six, and now you're

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into this stuff, but like among the ripple effects you

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this injury. I struggle to think of one that felt

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as like as big of a deal because of all

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what this means for Boston, what this means for the

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rest of the league, because like, this takes a team

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that now, granted I think the Knicks, we're gonna win

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that game anyway, and I think the Knicks we're gonna

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win the series anyway. But this, this kneecaps a first

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tier contender certainly for next year, and and to what

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urgency anyway, if Tatum had stayed healthy and the Celtics

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had lost this game and then go on to lose

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the series, and those conversations would have been about do

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we trade Drew Holliday, Can we move Jalen Brown? What

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about Porzingis there's all these, you know, financial considerations to

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make for a team that just got too expensive, and

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expense under the current collective bargaining agreement. So I mean,

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someone from the Celtics top six guys or seven or

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however deep you want to go, will will change teams

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this summer. Isn't that so much more likely now because

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next year is a last year as far as Boston

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being a like a top flight title contender, you just

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can't view them that way.

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Speaker 1: No, you can't. And I think you could have even

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virtue being a free agent. So now you get into

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the concept is it going to be two?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Because how do you even it'd be interesting to look

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at it? If you don't do anything, if you run

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it back, you're gonna be good enough to maybe even

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be a top four seed in the EY.

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Speaker 2: Just fifty games is totally doable for a tatumless Celtics

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the line from that Derek White trade. So it's just like,

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just because he's so expensive and he'd be so desirable

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on the trade market that Okay, no, you're not going

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to trade him off rip or just for anything. But

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materially change the makeup of our team and somehow you

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need to be more of like a totally equitable partnership

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in so far as it wasn't already. But it does

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make it difficult to time, like because the idea of

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a gap it actually might be somewhat intriguing. But how

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think the thing I feel pretty confident about is that

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when Tatum is back and you know, close to full powers,

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whatever that looks like, the Boston team around him, I

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think is going to be pretty different. Like I like,

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may have retired, but you know by then, because we're

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that he'll be because we assume he misses all of

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as we know them, Like this group is not gonna

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and two a piece or two will be gone and

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then the following year, who knows. Like it just that's

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years of a contender and maybe is the end of

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this version of the team and then you can even

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expand out from there. It's like, well, what's this dude

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to the East hierarchy because Cleveland doesn't look super powerful?

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Is like are the Pacers going to be the best

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team in the East for a couple of years now?

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Like there's just all these all these variables and then

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that's to say nothing of like wealth the Celtics do

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trade Jalen Brown or whatever or holiday or like where

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do they where those guys go? And what does that

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do to the hierarchy and the conference? Like or do

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they leave the conference entirely and the East gets even weaker?

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like every every possible reason, you know what I mean,

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like personally, team wide, league wise, Like it's it's all

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just it's all factoring in.

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Speaker 1: And the final thing for me because like we can

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talk about what the Celtics might do over the offseason

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once it actually is their off season, Like they're still

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in a playoff series and they're still a good team,

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and like the Knicks are they've been they feel like

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the team of destiny right now. But like we've seen

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enough of New York across the entire year, Like we

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had these concerns, those concerns still exist. If yeah, it

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wouldn't shock me if there's a Game seven in this year.

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They don't know how I'm going to predict it, but

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that I don't want to get too much in the offseason.

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to this, The thing that I keep coming back to

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is this reinforces what I think both you and I

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have been preaching for years. At this point, windows in

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the NBA are just so f leading, and that's why

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it's paramount to operate with sensible urgency. It's not you

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know what the Pelicans did around those Anthony Davis days

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and even some of the Zion Williams and stuff. No,

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you don't want to replicate that. You don't want to

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go all in too fast. But I think looking at

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someone like a team like the Spurs, or let's even

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more so, say the Rockets, who haven't kind of made

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that big trade yet. This is why. Yeah, some of

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it's just it's the easy thing to talk about, but

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it's also everyone who has followed this league, has covered

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this league, understands that even when you think something is

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built to last, right, it's not. It's a free agency decision,

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a trade demand, an injury, a luxury tax bill away

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from just going up in flames. And I don't think

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this is going to be the last we hear of

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the Tatum headline Celtics, the Celtics as we know them,

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team is going to look materially different by the time

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that Tatum plays again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a dividing line. I think in this era

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of Celtics basketball, like it, you know, and really like

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the before period on on the one side of that

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line was like pretty long. Because this goes back this

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sort of I include like the Kyrie era Celtics and

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the first go around Horford cel and like the you know,

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the Jalen Brown is a rookie in the playoffs, like

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that kind of we go back up. That's a long

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time ago, really in like NBA terms, and then you

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get the title last year and this happens. I mean,

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look they made the finals twenty two. Also, like this

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has been a long run by NBA standards of like

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major success, they consistent success too, like built mostly from

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within if you just think of the Brown and Tatum.

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Speaker 1: Duo, right like courtesy of Brooklyn, a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Curtesy of Brooklyn. But and now it's asked too, we're

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starting the after phase, so it's like, what what is that?

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How many holdovers will there be? Like will they ever

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approach the level of success they have? Probably not. I

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don't think Tatum wins another title in Boston. If he does,

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it will mean that they got somebody as good as

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him or bet right, like we're in that phase of it.

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Speaker 1: Probably the thing I had thought this would be the

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cold callous way of looking at it, and I just

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don't want to get to but like, is there would

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you trade this offseason Jaalen Brown for Cooper flag?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Dallas calls and says, we want. I think everyone expects

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that Dallas to make that pick. But like something I.

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Speaker 2: Would, I would, wouldn't you would? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think I think I probably would too. And what

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people forget is the idea of giving up a number

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one pick for Jalen Brown seems like a lot, I think,

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But like Cooper Flag is very much a theory by

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NBA standards right now, I have I will say, I've

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had someone. This is not like I don't want to

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be like super source here, someone I very much trust

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said that Cooper Flag is the best NBA prospect they've

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seen since Lebron. James and I followed up and they said,

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I am aware that Luka Dancicic and Victor woman Yama

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exist and I just so, but it's still very much

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a theory because what you know, like Zion Williamson was

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the best prospect since Lebron, and he's kind of lived

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up to the hype of the durability, isn't there right?

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That would be interesting from Boston's perspective because it's you

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are punting on certainty, but you're adding a level of

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cost control to your future as well as someone who

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theoretically could be as good, if not better than a

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Jay said, I don't look at too, but I'm just like, yeah,

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that the lens that this team all of a sudden

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has to evaluate itself against of we might need to

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endure not just near term pain, but like longer term

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growing pains to set ourselves up for a version of

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the Boston Celtics that can contend maybe with Jason Tatum,

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but where Jason Tatum is not your best player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean that's and that's a hard because,

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like I think one of them, I don't know if

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it's a knock, but like nobody ever, Tatum is never

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seriously contended for an MVP, right, So he was always

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you know, he's been first.

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Speaker 1: Three top five finishes now right though, or it will.

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Speaker 2: Be right, but never, but he was never like I

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think you know who actually should win it as tATu.

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It was never. That was never the argument. And now

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it's like, well what level can we expect him to

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get to? And the answer is probably like maybe all NBA,

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but like further down, like I would be shocked if

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he didn't make a bunch of more All Star Games

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once he's back, just because the floor is he's just

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I mean, he's great.

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Speaker 1: He's and he's so plug and play for a star.

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Speaker 2: Right Yeah, And maybe there's a version of him, like

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the post recovery version of him is like, no, he

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really just just he's more of a four now and

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he just beats up you know, other wings and like

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his game changes a little bit, or like I think

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everybody would be fine and see value in him, maybe

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not at like a max salary, as like just a

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deadly six' ten spot up shooter that, like you, know

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he's gonna have a ton of. Value BUT i think

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what we're both kind of circling around is like he's

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not gonna be the best player on a championship winning. Team,

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AGAIN i. DON'T i don't think that's a realistic.

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Speaker 1: Expectation, NO i think and that's the best way to

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frame it IS i will root for it because that'd

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be really cool to, see of, course of, course but

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like history just tells us that's not going to be the.

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Case and the one thing that maybe he has going for,

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him and this would normally be WHERE i in sort

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of a nineteen year old, joke but this isn't really like laughing.

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Matters is he really he is super? Young, yeah maybe

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that benefits him and is recovery and whatever comes. Next

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so nothing but the best to. Him but this is

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just you said it in our. Discord go join our.

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Discord this is league altering injury type, stuff and it's

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a big. One there is still basketball to talk, about,

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though between The celtics and The, knicks which you did mention.

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IT i think what Makes game four special is that

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The knicks were gonna win that before The Jason tatum.

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Injury you could just sense it when they were, like

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and this was the game they did fall behind, by

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like they have to fall behind by double digits because

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that's what they. DO i don't, know.

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Speaker 2: It's like the same script every, time it feels, like.

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Speaker 1: But this game was was special, because, like The celtics

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were hitting their threes by and, large and then The knicks,

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offense which has been a sore spot for the entire,

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playoffs takes off in the second. Half Michael bridges is

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apparently all of a sudden like the best closer. ALIVE

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i think there's been a Lot there's a lot of

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different things to talk. About my biggest takeaway from that

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game from The knicks perspective is, though, like has it

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maybe this should mean more to me, specifically but do

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you has it ever resonated with you That Jalen brunson

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has probably for the first time Since Patrick, ewing which

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is a long time, ago. Folks given The knicks a

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best player who can actually be the best player on

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a title contender like that was just sort of. Mine,

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Like boston's defense is. Good they were super aggressive with.

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Him he's still getting like you look at the shots

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he was, hitting like through the first three quarters of that.

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Game like just his ability as a small guard. Too

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it doesn't, honestly it doesn't make any, sense, Right.

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Speaker 2: YEAH i MEAN i remember talking about this last. Postseason

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it's a version of it where it struck me how

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awesome it was that The knicks were relevant and that

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The garden crowd was like losing its mind because it

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could feel collectively, like, oh and it was different because

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last year's team was MORE i don't, Know brunson was

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was basically as good last year, too but it was more,

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like isn't this team like scrapping hard and isn't it

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fun to watch the offensive rebounding and to see, guys you,

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Know Josh heart playing forty whatever minutes and all. That

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there was all that stuff there this. Year though to your,

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point it's just, like so just to use Game game

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four as the, example you AND i mentioned the script

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thing you. COULD i had the thought like early third

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quarter of like it's happening, again you, know the just

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this IT'S i feel, it like it's that's the BEST

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i ALMOST i, think LIKE i didn't audibly say, that

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but that was verbatim the thought in my. Head as

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The celtics continue to like just kind of look for

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one kind of shot for the most. Part you, Know

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tatum did go bang around inside a little bit, more

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but like and And brunson just is finding ways to

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score from. Everywhere AND i had the thought, of, LIKE

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i think that might Be brunson's like real like defining

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skill is there's not really a spot on the floor

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that you can direct him to where he's not. Dangerous

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and it's like there's not really a particular shot that he's,

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hunting like he'll take the step back three and just

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somehow the one he hit one, OVER i think he

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hit one Over tatum from the right. Wing it might

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have even been. PORSONING i think it Was. Tatum and

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it's just like that's a six' ten guy closing out

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on what's bruntson realistically six,' to, One six' two like

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it just that he can hit that and that he

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can get into the mid range and just pivot and

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figure it out go over either shoulder that he can

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somehow finish inside despite like not any kind of. Real

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SIZE or length like i think that's, what makes him

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special is like you know he's going to try to

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score and you don't know, where it's coming from and

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he doesn't care. Where it comes from like he's that

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well rounded. As an offensive player that and in a

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playoff series where, like everything is about let's take away

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the thing the guy. Wants to Do most HE'S, LIKE

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brunson's OPTIONS bc d and e are just like THEY'RE

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indistinguishable from. Option A for him and i think that

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as we see more, and more of him just continue

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to do, This in playoff series i'm kind of landing

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on like that's that's a lot of. What it is

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is it's just like there's nowhere you can send. HIM

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that he's, uncomfortable i don't, know it's it's amazing this Is,

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what he's just yeah he's the best player in the

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series and the series Until the end Of Game. Four

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involved jason tatum like that's that's a, big thing to say.

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Speaker 1: And IT just to appreciate i won't do like the

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super cherry pick stuff. With the stat thing so he finished,

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with thirty nine points twelve, assists in one turnover which

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is that's is that, a typo Territory right especially against

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boston he has.

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Speaker 2: The, Ball so much too like? How is that Possible.

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Speaker 1: Here's every player grant who, has games of it like

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00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,480
more than thirty five. Points IN ten asists so i

476
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,240
feel like those are fair benchmarks with no more than

477
00:22:37,279 --> 00:22:40,079
a single turnover. In a playoff game. Lebron's Done it

478
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,440
twice michael jordan did. It In, ninety two clyde drexler

479
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,799
who just always shows. Up in these things, klaidejuxch was

480
00:22:45,839 --> 00:22:49,119
so underrated also did. It In ninety two nicola jokicch

481
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,839
did it last, year because of Course And now there's

482
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,519
jalen bruns, and that's just it and it's just it.

483
00:22:53,559 --> 00:22:55,920
Was A special performance but i think what's also Been special.

484
00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,240
From The nix's perspective tom Thibodau Is out coached joe.

485
00:23:00,319 --> 00:23:04,039
Mozoula in this series WHEN you look at i think

486
00:23:04,039 --> 00:23:06,279
that you can still Be frustrated with, the KNICKS'S offensive

487
00:23:06,279 --> 00:23:09,759
PROCESS and i honestly i felt different than you because.

488
00:23:09,799 --> 00:23:11,599
THERE was the play i think it was? That the

489
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,200
third quarter was? It the fourth quarter everything's blurwing together

490
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,720
After That night where josh, hart Forces A Turnover then

491
00:23:17,759 --> 00:23:20,599
carl anthony towns immediately turns it back over and then

492
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,279
like it Winds Up in a derek, white wide open

493
00:23:22,319 --> 00:23:24,279
three and he just felt like it sucked the Air out,

494
00:23:24,279 --> 00:23:26,359
of THE knicks momentum and, i was, just like all

495
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:27,960
right like it's gonna, be two to two this is. How.

496
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,559
It's gonna go Ye, credit, TO the knicks though i

497
00:23:30,599 --> 00:23:33,039
Think You can fault tom thibodeau for them not finding sort.

498
00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:36,640
Of their scrappiness earlier but they have, found it at

499
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,240
all and it's been a lot of the buttons. That

500
00:23:38,279 --> 00:23:41,319
he's been pushing their. Defense has been different they're like

501
00:23:41,319 --> 00:23:44,119
they've switched way more yeah this series than at Any

502
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,559
Point under. The tom thibodeau era You Have to like

503
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,880
karnthy towns has, some really good moments like when he's

504
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,480
caught on an island with GUYS still just not i just.

505
00:23:51,519 --> 00:23:53,400
Don't trust that dude it was The. Same story in,

506
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,079
MINNESOTA it WAS like i Just I Don't. Trust karl

507
00:23:57,079 --> 00:23:59,039
anthony towns he's been great at points and when he's

508
00:23:59,039 --> 00:24:00,880
AN aggressivecore, of the nixt better but there's too much

509
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,759
up and DOWN the thing that i thought was bold

510
00:24:04,039 --> 00:24:05,559
and if you would, HAVE asked me this i would

511
00:24:05,599 --> 00:24:07,039
have told you there's no way in. Hell it's gonna

512
00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:10,839
Work you're putting McHale bridges in the fourth quarter basically

513
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,160
by himself Is, the Like no towns no brunson is

514
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,759
the primary scorer so that you can try and capitalize

515
00:24:15,759 --> 00:24:18,240
Off of like the. Cornett, or presingis Minutes yeah and

516
00:24:18,319 --> 00:24:20,519
mchal bridges just is not. Missing from mid range it

517
00:24:20,559 --> 00:24:23,559
still MAKES me uneasy because i feel like he's perpetually going,

518
00:24:23,599 --> 00:24:26,640
away from the, basket like the shots. Even his set

519
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,480
shots it feels, like there's a lean but he's getting

520
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,079
it done, in the fourth quarter and, if You include

521
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,720
overtime og ananobi is just. TO me very clearly i

522
00:24:34,759 --> 00:24:36,519
don't know if you. FEEL the same way i don't even.

523
00:24:36,519 --> 00:24:39,160
Find a debate anymore is the second most important player

524
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,200
on this team because of, what he does defensively and

525
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,599
just like he has leveled up his offense where the

526
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,240
escape dribble threes can do a little bit. More things on,

527
00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:49,000
drives not. A Playmaker but all anthony towns isn't a,

528
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,640
live dribble Playmaker Either, neither is Michel bridges but like TIB's,

529
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,200
kind of empowering him and they shifted a lot, of

530
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,480
the excuse me and this is A this is. A

531
00:24:57,519 --> 00:25:00,200
TIBs Thing too when jalen brunson was out, with that

532
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,599
Spraining ankle that's when ognnobe. Kind of really popped tibbs

533
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,960
kind Of Shifted more of michal bridges's Usage on offense

534
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,480
to ognnobi after. BRUNTS and came back i think, that

535
00:25:09,599 --> 00:25:11,680
was really smart and now he's also kind of figuring

536
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,839
out how to balance. It all With that like McHale,

537
00:25:13,839 --> 00:25:16,920
Bridge's Fourth quarter stuff josh hart is just he, should

538
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,279
be a liability but it's that dude Is. SUCH a

539
00:25:20,279 --> 00:25:22,960
bell Weather I love, watching josh hart play even when

540
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,119
like the three point stuff is, going to Be Frustrating

541
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,279
going To Mitchell robinson and karlthy towns to Gather More

542
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,960
or even mitchell. Robinson more in general he logged twenty

543
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,640
Five plus, minutes in game four his second most, minutes

544
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,079
OF the season and i know he hasn't played, a ton,

545
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,480
this season but like this is someone who's not known as,

546
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,599
a high minutes guy especially Now that you have towns and.

547
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,039
With the injury stuff there's just been a Lot of

548
00:25:42,079 --> 00:25:45,640
things that TIBBS has, done THAT i like and i all,

549
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,799
The same concerns remain and if you're worried, about title

550
00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:51,319
windows expiring the fact that he leans on his, TOP

551
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,079
guy so much i do find myself thinking now when

552
00:25:54,079 --> 00:25:56,359
you look at The state of The, celtics of the

553
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,680
east like this Just might be the knicks's best and

554
00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:02,200
old chance to win a. Title WITH this group and

555
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,519
i think you can, sit here and say if you

556
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:09,000
believe that, a more inventive, approach especially on offense is

557
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,079
the difference between this team being what it is now

558
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,000
and an even. More championship heavy favorite the outcome of

559
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,559
this series is almost bad News For you because tom,

560
00:26:16,599 --> 00:26:19,119
thibeau isn't going anywhere maybe if they blow a. Three

561
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,759
To one lead but i've just Found. It fascinating where

562
00:26:21,799 --> 00:26:24,000
tibbs i've always been Up. AND down on tibbs i

563
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,240
would Never call, myself a tibbs defender but, like he's

564
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,240
he's coached At Least, RELATIVE to joe mossoula i think

565
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,799
he's done a really good, job in this.

566
00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 2: Year you've ignowed, in fairness to You you've acknowledged when

567
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,319
thibodeau does stuff, that like makes, sense AND you've acknowledged

568
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,759
like i. Think we both are we both pointed to

569
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,519
he has a lot of strengths, as a, head COACH

570
00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:44,480
and like now, i THINK you're. Right like i don't

571
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:47,359
it doesn't matter what happens from now unless, they BLOW

572
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,160
this lead which i just don't, Think is gonna happen

573
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,680
like he's gonna. BE back next year i WANTED to

574
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,799
ask because. I had the thought i forget, which one

575
00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:55,880
it was but it was, one, of those bridges, like

576
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,079
oh my, god they, need this you know twelve footer

577
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,039
in the, middle of the lane fading back and he

578
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,920
hits it towards the end, OF the, shot CLOCK i

579
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,599
think AND i HAD that i was I was already

580
00:27:05,599 --> 00:27:07,480
Like i know What, I'm, gonna, ask dan so like

581
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,519
is are all those picks? Being? Traded, for bridges okay

582
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:15,759
now like what needs? To, happen for that well, like

583
00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:18,400
here's the thing because. WE talk about windows i, think

584
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,759
YOU'RE probably right but i just it's just like it

585
00:27:20,839 --> 00:27:27,640
made me reconsider like the In conjunction, with the tatum injury, this,

586
00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:30,079
idea that like yeah you'd love to, have ALL those

587
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,920
picks and i think, probably you, still would but like

588
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,079
isn't the whole point of this to just fucking go

589
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,599
for it, When you're pretty Close and like the. Knicks

590
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,039
definitely have done they really went For it with the

591
00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:42,359
cat Trade and with the Bridge's trade and the og

592
00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:45,000
trade and the bringing him back for the Money they

593
00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:48,240
like trading devincenzo as part of, that, deal, was like

594
00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:50,119
ah man that felt like that was, like kind of

595
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,079
cold but like they felt, like they were close and

596
00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:56,400
they felt like a couple moves, would GET them closer,

597
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,799
And i so. Far like that's right like they They.

598
00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:02,319
Were gonna beat boston they were going, up Three to

599
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,599
one whether tatum. Got HURT or not and i think

600
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,160
you have to at least think about or, consider, the,

601
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,119
fact that like yeah the process of paying all those

602
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,400
picks For a player of bridges caliber is probably not

603
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,279
the one you want to embrace. Most of the time

604
00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:20,240
but the results are gonna. Be what they are and

605
00:28:20,279 --> 00:28:23,079
if they make the conference finals And they give, probably

606
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,920
INDIANA a run, like i don't know that's. Kind of

607
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,960
the point the point is to get as close as

608
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,119
you can when, you got a shot and they've. THEY'VE

609
00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:35,240
gone that route. I don't know it go ahead your thoughts.

610
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: If you make it what's the saying? If you win

611
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,279
it you never have to apologize if. YOU win a

612
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:42,319
title i, think in this case they haven't made the conference.

613
00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:44,799
Finals since two thousand THEY haven't made the nba, finals

614
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:47,279
since ninety nine which is just when, you say ninety

615
00:28:47,359 --> 00:28:50,119
nine that was over, a quarter century AGO and it

616
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,319
doesn't i DON'T realize THAT until i, until I say

617
00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:55,119
it LIKE i was just i was a, young BUCK

618
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,759
back then LIKE i WAS just i bet i remember

619
00:28:57,759 --> 00:28:59,640
watching that, finals as a kid. Just being very emotional

620
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,839
expect them To win AGAINST the spurs because i HAVE

621
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,680
no idea what. I was ROOTING for but so. I

622
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,119
think it's defensible but like, there, are, two things Like

623
00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:11,759
look if mchal bridges signs, the EXTENSION this summer which

624
00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:13,279
i think is like four years and, one to fifty

625
00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:15,799
six he could probably get more if he went. On

626
00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:18,880
the open. Market, that lends itself okay that's part. Of

627
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,400
Why You overpay got jalen brunson. To, sign His extension

628
00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:23,920
yeah McHale bridges to sign. A, BLOW market extension also

629
00:29:24,319 --> 00:29:26,480
i will go back to that they sent out no real,

630
00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:28,799
players in that deal and so like you had to

631
00:29:28,839 --> 00:29:33,119
compensate the next. Somehow nick nets somehow but on the

632
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:35,240
FLIP side is like i know they had Waited Long

633
00:29:35,319 --> 00:29:36,920
enough and jalen brunson kind of put them in a

634
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,599
position where they couldn't wait much longer because he. Was

635
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,400
just So good. The whole gyiannis stuff, that's why you

636
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,880
wait because that's the star that you expend. That, much

637
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,400
picks on now maybe it Doesn't matter because the bucks

638
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,960
don't have their Own picks and the knicks don't have

639
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,519
all these youngsters to, throw into those trades but like.

640
00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:55,359
That's why you wait so, as of now though, Like

641
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,799
in this moment, i've, seen people Say oh that mchal bridges.

642
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,960
Trade was a steal it was. Absolutely, not a steal

643
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,200
well they. Overpaid to get them if it results in a,

644
00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:07,240
conference finals like TITLE Getting, TO the nba finals i

645
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,079
don't think, You need to apologize and like you kind,

646
00:30:09,079 --> 00:30:12,319
of understand the vision but it has it has. Me,

647
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,720
capped you moving yeah you've extended all your best if

648
00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:17,680
you're looking, to improve This team which the, Knicks are

649
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,160
still flawed like this. Is a great Moment i'm. Excited

650
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,920
for knicks fans, i'm excited for myself but like we

651
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,599
CAN'T lose sight of i don't do you THINK they'll

652
00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:28,519
go into i shouldn't say will they, go INTO it

653
00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:30,680
favored because i Feel like the big apple juice will

654
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,480
make them the betting favorite re Farlest of Whether. It's

655
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,359
cleveland or indy but what are you picking them to

656
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,680
beat either one of those teams if? The? Series, STARTED

657
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,079
today well.

658
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: Yeah i mean it's so If you're like the cavs

659
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,759
magically all get healthy and they, somehow WIN that series Then,

660
00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:46,519
i MIGHT pick cleveland but i just don't. THINK that's

661
00:30:46,519 --> 00:30:51,440
gonna happen I would probably go i Would. PROBABLY pick

662
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,079
THE knicks i think I, would Over the pacers and

663
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,319
i've just been kind of Too low on the pacers,

664
00:30:56,359 --> 00:30:58,960
for the entire season and so that's kind of staying,

665
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,640
on brand for me WHICH is Weird because i. Love

666
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,680
HALIBURTON so, much, BUT i THINK yeah i think I.

667
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,759
Would pick the, knicks AND even, IF like i guess,

668
00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:10,720
I would just say i think you're right that like

669
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,200
go committing what they did, to build this team, which

670
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,200
like on paper just shouldn't be and is not like,

671
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,319
A top four team they're gonna be one of the,

672
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,480
last four teams standing and, so like you know like

673
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,039
in a, normal year or whatever like whatever whatever that

674
00:31:28,359 --> 00:31:30,640
whatever that EVEN, means in the nba like a normal

675
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,359
year where they four best teams during the regular season actually,

676
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,000
Make the conference finals like that. Doesn't seem, TO happen but,

677
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,680
LIKE i don't know i, keep, coming, BACK to like

678
00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:42,160
yeah i think if you're close and you can, make

679
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,440
like a reckless seemingly reckless move to, GET a little

680
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,680
closer i think, my takeaway is like. You JUST do

681
00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:49,680
IT and i was i was Wrong, about like, the

682
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,359
warriors for example trying to pull off a big, trade

683
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:53,680
DURING the year, because, i was like. Oh they're not

684
00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:56,319
close there's no one who gets, them to that level

685
00:31:56,599 --> 00:31:59,079
and who knows where they'd be. If they were healthy

686
00:31:59,319 --> 00:32:01,519
like that would be kind of a, similar, thing of

687
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:03,839
like yeah. You just do it it, may not seem

688
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,880
perfect but if you're close and, get a little closer

689
00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:08,680
it's worth it's worth it to take. A shot at it.

690
00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:11,519
Speaker 1: I think that's why it's important to, also APPRECIATE the

691
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:14,200
moment because i can get when when you, cover the

692
00:32:14,359 --> 00:32:16,839
entire league like we do you do get caught up

693
00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:18,839
in the. Macro of at all and so it's if

694
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:20,319
You don't think the knicks are going, to win a

695
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:22,000
title like you're Just not like The thunder and the,

696
00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:24,720
Nuggets exist as well so you're just not gonna predict them.

697
00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:27,400
To win the championship and let, if you believe it.

698
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,680
More power to you i'll be rooting, For it, spoiler

699
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,599
alert but like you don't want to get too caught

700
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,720
up in like they're still flawed and if they got

701
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,720
to the finals and got, trucked in five games there's

702
00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:38,039
going to be you'll have to have the where do?

703
00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:38,119
Speaker 2: You?

704
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: Go from here element but, as of right now it's

705
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,359
this team is flawed and yet they're Good enough, to

706
00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:46,200
get and look this will be rewritten at, some, point

707
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,000
as Like well If The celtics had, jason tatum and,

708
00:32:48,039 --> 00:32:49,680
yeah maybe they come they would still be in the

709
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,319
three to One Series hole if jayson. Tatum, WAS was

710
00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:56,279
healthy so i what are you expect the? Rest of

711
00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:58,160
this series what are you? Kind of looking for there's

712
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,720
always Like the knickx of we've probably seem like the

713
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,920
full Breadth of what the, knicks have? To, offer Is

714
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,079
It well can michal bridges maybe get going a little

715
00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:07,400
bit earlier if you want. To get into That, but

716
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,119
For the celtics it's i'm just very curiously what their

717
00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:12,599
offense is. Going TO look like and i think the

718
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,400
easy thing is do you kind, Of need to spam

719
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,240
LIKE can you get i know he's, dealing with the

720
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:19,680
anemia like the illness, or whatever it is but can

721
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,480
you get even More? Minutes out of porzingis and, is

722
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:25,119
this just spamming like go find like towns and brunts

723
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,480
and and like you need to spam like porzingis picking. Pops,

724
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:28,400
AT this point.

725
00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah i mean in a lot of ways that the

726
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:33,440
dem or the sort of the game plan doesn't. Change

727
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,200
a ton offensively it's just like now It Does not Involve.

728
00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:40,359
Jason TATUM for BOSTON so i mean i thought they

729
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:45,319
were hunting, the brunts, and towns you know options a

730
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:48,480
little more with a little, more commitment as this like,

731
00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:51,519
certainly IN game four and i think, THAT not doing,

732
00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:55,079
THAT I don't know. I i get it you want to.

733
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:57,680
Just run YOUR stuff that's one, u sixty whatever games

734
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,160
and like deviating in a series maybe feels. Like you're

735
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,359
OVERTHINKING it but. LIKE i don't know i think that

736
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,119
has been the move and should be the move going

737
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,199
forward is just pick. On bruntson in Towns maybe you get.

738
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,400
Towns in foul trouble that means You Have, to play

739
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,679
mitchell robinson which means he gets, fouled off The floor

740
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,280
And then precious, the chew is involved and like that

741
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,360
that's A. WAY forward, for boston i mean they're gonna Need.

742
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,039
Way more From Brown they're gonna needa holiday. Has Not

743
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:26,440
Looked good like derek white's gonna have to up the

744
00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:30,239
volume and make every quarter look like The first quarter

745
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,320
of game four when. He just COULDN'T miss but Like

746
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,360
i do think boston is good enough. To win another

747
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,559
game like, Stranger things have happened but, to win three

748
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:42,480
straight even with two of, them being at home that's

749
00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:45,400
that's a pretty tall order, to say nothing of just

750
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,440
like the Deflating effect. Of the tatum injury just like

751
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,440
You could forgive the celtics for kind of letting go

752
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,639
of the, rope a little bit, just, because they know

753
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,239
like even, if we win this. He's not, coming back

754
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,159
you know professional athletes ARE mentally. Tougher than i am

755
00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:01,960
but like that WOULD affect me if i knew our

756
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:05,639
best guy was. Just it was done you know that

757
00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:07,320
that has. TO play A role i think.

758
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: I'm also wondering too like The Big. Thing is drew

759
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,320
holliday you mentioned He's like given the Knicks Somewhere, to

760
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,800
stash jalen brunton which is something they. Were Always gonna

761
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,079
do the celtics are averaging as a team under A

762
00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:21,480
point Possession when jalen bruns in like Registers As, defender

763
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:24,840
and Drew holliday can the celtics like it's probably gonna

764
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,760
take more like more, actions during their, offensive something, they

765
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,119
want but like can They get him a brunton off? Of, That,

766
00:35:31,159 --> 00:35:33,079
matchup to now okay we have two players who are

767
00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:35,760
maybe going to be more active and that's gonna Make

768
00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:38,000
for tougher. For BRUNTON to defend and i Don't know

769
00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:39,960
if the celtics has gotten figured out A way to

770
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,639
Get brunton off of drew or like capitalize. On that

771
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,760
nearly enough and that, either, comes Down To well can

772
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,519
drew holliday hit, to play better button to play more

773
00:35:48,519 --> 00:35:51,159
aggressive button however you, want to frame it or do

774
00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:54,079
you need to just go through more layers to like

775
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,880
poke and Prod and get put brunton in more uncomfortable

776
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,000
situations or.

777
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,519
Speaker 2: Is it just like We Got to play pritchard moore

778
00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:02,239
because he's just a tougher cover that's gonna shoot it

779
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,280
more readily and just move more and, faster and you

780
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,599
know over tax not even maybe you put brunts in

781
00:36:08,639 --> 00:36:10,800
someplace Else if You're the knicks and, pritchard is, the,

782
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,480
cover but like Yeah the bust and i'm Honestly Like not,

783
00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:17,199
Having sam houser matters like just not having another guy

784
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,400
to just make shots when that's been an issue in

785
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,360
most of the, games in this. Series, is, A, FACTOR

786
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,400
yeah Yeah again i think Boston could, Definitely win game

787
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,679
five like that's that's. Totally on the table THEY'LL just

788
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,039
have TO i guess what i, would Say is Like if,

789
00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:36,159
boston wins game five it'll probably have more To do

790
00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:39,599
with the knicks not not just continuing, to play this

791
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,960
well then, it, Will with like oh, boston's figured. Something,

792
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,400
Out you know right let's move on, to The Next

793
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,800
Series which.

794
00:36:48,199 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: Golden state warriors in a three to One Hole. Against

795
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,559
the minnesota timberwolves where do you? Want, To start here,

796
00:36:53,639 --> 00:36:55,679
Gran i'll let you i'll let you grab THE talking stick, and.

797
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,199
Speaker 2: I, don't, know like Well rhetorically like with steph going,

798
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,159
down in game one what else should? The expectation, have

799
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,039
BEEN YOU know like i Think, with A healthy steph

800
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,880
this i DON'T know what the i can't remember, what

801
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,800
the ODDS were but just i don't know how much

802
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,119
there is to really say when the team that can

803
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:17,159
at least afford to lose its best player. Loses its

804
00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:19,960
best player and the way the, series has played out

805
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,440
everything from like the scoring struggles to just the role

806
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,239
guys looking worse, for The Most, part except jonathan minga

807
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,360
which maybe. We should talk about uh that's Like all.

808
00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:33,280
Very fran, Is, back oh boy yeah you should. See

809
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,039
some text threats there have been Some things said about.

810
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:35,800
Kamina IN this.

811
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,679
Speaker 1: Series so i want To focus on the steph outment

812
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,360
really quickly before we kind of dive into like maybe

813
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,880
what we've seen or. What's, going to happen yeah it's

814
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,599
frustrating for me from watching because like we've seen Them. Hold,

815
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:48,480
leads without steph now like they Went into halftime of

816
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,159
game four and had the lead and then just you

817
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,119
kind of let your. FOOT off The gas i. Think

818
00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:54,760
draymond was it Draymond Or was it jimmy butler afterwards

819
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,400
said If We, don't have steph curry we can't give up.

820
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,159
One hundred and more was it. Seventeen, points or Whatever

821
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,760
yeah it was draymond, to win that game which. Is

822
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,679
just spot on and so like when you see that

823
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,280
kind of a failure of THEIR defense and then i.

824
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,719
Know It was it jimmy butler was sick in addition

825
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,360
to dealing. With the glute stuff, it JUST sucks because

826
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,800
like i thought this was going to be a really,

827
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,679
fun and Confusing, series and without steph it's sort, of

828
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,800
boiled it down like this is, what's SUPPOSED to happen

829
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,599
and i really hope and it, feels counterintuitive to say

830
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:24,360
like they need to prioritize the future when they're as.

831
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,719
OLD as they are i Don't Want to See steph.

832
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,519
Curry play game five that's Because if they win game five, and,

833
00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:31,079
FORCE of games like i just don't want To see

834
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:34,559
him risk and But maybe this is i'm Like Traumatized

835
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:37,320
from the jason tatum injury now to just like, Let's

836
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,800
not risk it, like if they lose let him have the.

837
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,079
Offseason then, come back but like isn't kind of already

838
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:46,199
pushing it to come back from that Grade one strain

839
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,960
in game five and it's you're, Down, three to one

840
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:53,239
like let's Start displaying urgency with Steph's timeline when the

841
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,039
warriors proved that they, could win a game, and then

842
00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:56,960
it's oh coming back. From three to one you, still

843
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,119
wouldn't predict it but like you can get Two Consecutive

844
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:00,880
wins With steph, Aint this timberwolves.

845
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: TEAM YEAH you can i i was thinking THIS morning

846
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,679
about like i kind OF think. HE'S gonna i bet i,

847
00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:12,440
haven't READ anything today but i bet he's going To try,

848
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,440
to PLAY game five and. I, WOULD also him yeah i, would, also,

849
00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:19,639
BET that like well I don't know what i would

850
00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:21,719
bet because you don't want to, put anything past him

851
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,440
but like a re injury really feels likely or like, feels,

852
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,920
like frighteningly probable uh given how like how quickly this

853
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,880
would be for a. TURNAROUND for a hamstring, I guess

854
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,960
for me i LEAN more towards like i think you

855
00:39:38,159 --> 00:39:40,280
just do it because you're never you're not promised that

856
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,079
next year is going to give you any better, shot

857
00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:44,320
than this year as long as the odds are now,

858
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,159
Down THREE to one like i just can you really

859
00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:50,760
expect this core to get through another full season? Without,

860
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,639
SOME injury, too, like i think look the evidence of

861
00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:56,440
how good The Team is with jimmy butler post trade. Deadline, Is,

862
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,280
pretty persuasive like okay they're a top four Team probably

863
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,360
in the west if they could hold. Hold up that

864
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,760
way but everybody. Is a year older you may, or may,

865
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,480
not have you know as good of a supporting cast

866
00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:10,760
considering some of The Free, agents like peyton looney the.

867
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,960
Guys that actually Play who knows where kaming is gonna

868
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,840
be or what his role would, Be IF he's, BACK

869
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,480
like i think i think you Play him IF he's

870
00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:21,559
if he i think, HE decides to play i think

871
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:25,400
they PROBABLY let him and i, it's A complicated decision

872
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,559
BUT i FEEL like i would, I wouldn't be like

873
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,039
i wouldn't view it as like malpractice or anything if

874
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:33,280
they if, they let him go if. They let HIM

875
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,440
try but it's i DON'T know what the i. DON'T

876
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,440
have high expectations, I would say that.

877
00:40:39,199 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: Uh so you want to talk about THE kaminga stuff

878
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,199
which i think actually bleeds into part of the. Issues

879
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:46,119
with this team when you're Trying to get the, warriors team.

880
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:47,840
SCALING ahead moving forward i want to Talk about what,

881
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,519
the Wolves Are, doing particularly julius randall who's just a

882
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,480
big playoff killer now apparently Who Knew.

883
00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:57,599
Speaker 2: Boy was mia colpa i've several times this season, HAVE

884
00:40:57,679 --> 00:40:59,360
just said like i don't think he's, someone you win

885
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,360
with and he's a big. Reason they are, winning.

886
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 1: AND you know so i haven't made a, couple OF there.

887
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,039
TOO because i can't. I what is time i don't

888
00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:09,280
even remember what our Initial Reactions to the, karlatat towns

889
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,360
trade were but like we pretty much were not Aboard,

890
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,480
it with the timberwolves and so it's might, work out for,

891
00:41:14,519 --> 00:41:16,400
Them MAYBE it doesn't, but i will say What's Really

892
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,559
fun about? Julius randall doing this and he's and what

893
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:21,480
do you? Have that groin injury ever, since he's come

894
00:41:21,519 --> 00:41:24,960
back like it feels like he's playing Within the confines

895
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,639
the wolves, need him to be which is physical but

896
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,199
also being more. Of, A setup guy yep and that's just,

897
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,599
worked for their offense especially in what feels like this

898
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:33,800
series where it's like and is only going to get

899
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,519
it going for what like the final third of a,

900
00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:40,079
Game Or something Apparently So i'm happy julius rannold's doing

901
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:43,360
this because now he makes it so difficult for the,

902
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,440
Team to cheap out because now if it's are You

903
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,480
gonna let nas reed walk because You Want, to keep,

904
00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:50,679
julius randall it's like or are you Gonna Get just

905
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,719
let julius randa walk for Nothing because you want, if

906
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,599
they do that there'll Be, a mutiny in minnesota. As

907
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:59,079
there should Be, But with The warriors john the communists.

908
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:01,880
Play has been fascinating so my. Question here is, twofold

909
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:04,480
Would you agree and i'm gonna, ask both at once

910
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,280
would You agree, that this warriors team even just when,

911
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,880
they're hitting their threes there's just not enough spacing and

912
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,519
they really need to open up the floor so that

913
00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:14,920
they can capitalize on Make life easier on. Steph when

914
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,960
he's healthy but Like The crux of, JIMMY butler's game

915
00:42:18,039 --> 00:42:22,800
requires i, would say Positive, spacing which The, warriors certainly without.

916
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,239
Steph do not, have but then two how does that

917
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,599
impact How You view what jonathan kaminga? Is doing right

918
00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:31,559
now because even The best version of kaminga is not

919
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:34,280
going to be considered a floor, spacer because by definition

920
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,199
it needs to be someone that defenses want to guard

921
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:39,599
from Beyond The arch and jonathan aminica just, still isn't

922
00:42:39,679 --> 00:42:41,920
quite that and so it was easier for. Me To

923
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,360
Sit here. Before jonathan kmeninga returned the Rotation was that

924
00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:46,039
the warriors just, need to figure out like how to

925
00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:48,760
get more. Shooting around This Core but now jonathan kminga's

926
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,119
popping and. It makes it Hard HOW do we and

927
00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:53,800
i guess the one if we were to tie both

928
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,800
questions together Is how do the warriors make? This work

929
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,960
moving forward when you're weighing what they still, clearly need

930
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:03,519
versus Oh Have they failed jonathan kaminga at any po

931
00:43:03,639 --> 00:43:05,199
or is it just is there more To Plumb. There

932
00:43:05,199 --> 00:43:06,559
with jonathan. Kaminga it's so.

933
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 2: Awkward YEAH it is and I Mean that was steve

934
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:15,119
kerr's justification for the most Recent benching stint of Kaminga,

935
00:43:15,199 --> 00:43:17,840
is like with butler. It just doesn't work we, don't

936
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,039
have the spacing and like, That's just objectively true like

937
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,320
you just don't If and If, it's butler And draymond

938
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,039
like and steph the other two guys in, that five

939
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:30,639
man unit just like they got to. Be able To

940
00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:33,119
shoot that's, why buddy, Healed Like holy, Shit buddy, HEALED

941
00:43:33,199 --> 00:43:36,639
matters like forget i just don't know where this like competent.

942
00:43:36,679 --> 00:43:39,320
Defense has Come From but like buddy heald. Is kind

943
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,320
Of indispensable quentin post got played off the, floor in

944
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,920
this series like he's the other piece where if you,

945
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,760
have a shooting five maybe that. Gives you some options

946
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,840
but he's just not a good enough all around player

947
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,320
yet to be in a second round playoff series just.

948
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,480
Because he, can shoot you know the other. Stuff matters

949
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,480
too much so how do? YOU make it. WORK i

950
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,519
don't know i think they've struggled. With that all season

951
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:04,400
it would probably be Slightly easier Solve if pajemski and

952
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,480
moody could both make a shot and neither of, them

953
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,000
can right now because then you can mix and match,

954
00:44:10,039 --> 00:44:12,920
and like you, Know maybe you know, draymond's off the

955
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,320
Floor so you've got butler and, three Or four shooters or,

956
00:44:16,639 --> 00:44:19,039
butler's off The floor You have steph and draymond and,

957
00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:21,679
Two or three, shooters like you Know there's ways to

958
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:24,559
maybe that's another reason that the rotation has been, so

959
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,000
deep all season and they played like thirteen guys, in

960
00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:29,480
the first, quarter and you know they're just kind of

961
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,000
searching for guys that can give them. The Things they need,

962
00:44:32,639 --> 00:44:37,920
THE kaminga thing like i will concede that certain more

963
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,960
so in game what three when he had like thirty or,

964
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,000
whatever it was like and Definitely for, parts of game

965
00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:51,280
four like if if you watch what he, did and you,

966
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,719
say oh my god they have. Just buried this guy,

967
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,639
look What he's Doing, Like steve against steve kurt doesn't?

968
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,000
Is lost his mind how do? You not play him

969
00:45:02,039 --> 00:45:04,719
look at the. Boost he's giving him if if that's the,

970
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,320
extent OF your reaction what i will say to you

971
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,920
is you did not watch enough of this season because

972
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,280
those are the highs and you are Ignoring the lows.

973
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,840
Where kaminga will play and you saw, some dumb mistakes,

974
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,039
Too even last night like the guy. CAN'T navigate a

975
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:25,239
screen i don't know how it's possible he's. THAT bad

976
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,599
at It i think the wolves learned pretty quickly That

977
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,239
if you involve kminga in an action, that involves a

978
00:45:31,519 --> 00:45:35,800
screen b trailing someone off the ball or see, one

979
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,320
to two passes that he has to like, Judge where

980
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,119
to go like you've broken him and he's not going to.

981
00:45:41,159 --> 00:45:43,679
Make a good play so. Like EVEN with it so,

982
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,800
i would just say like all the lows don't get

983
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,920
erased from, his like effort perspective from, his attention to

984
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,800
detail from, all this other stuff because he showed you

985
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,159
the highs and this is. The whole cominga experience we're

986
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,400
just watching a micro like we're watching a, little micro

987
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,599
caushm it because he will show you this stuff and

988
00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:05,960
it makes. You forget, everything else and like, at The

989
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,239
same time the warriors going to his restrictive, free agency,

990
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,880
This summer it's like i'm no closer to knowing right

991
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,480
what that, guy's market value is whether it makes sense to.

992
00:46:17,559 --> 00:46:21,800
Keep HIM at all like i just it's been it's

993
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,800
been one long saga of just like ebbs and flows

994
00:46:25,039 --> 00:46:28,679
of the long term. Outlook FOR this guy and i

995
00:46:28,679 --> 00:46:30,480
think the way he's played the last game and a

996
00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:34,239
half just makes it. That much more complicated and to

997
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,360
say nothing of the your what your, question was is

998
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,159
like how do you integrate him Into, A Core of

999
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,400
Steph jimmy butler and draymond if he's not gonna because

1000
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,719
he's not a guy that is best utilized at all, as,

1001
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,880
like oh well okay maybe he becomes a thirty Eight

1002
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,159
percent three point you want him just? Standing on the

1003
00:46:51,159 --> 00:46:53,679
perimeter is? That what you? Want jonathan, comminget it you

1004
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,800
know like it's even if he becomes a, GOOD three

1005
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,199
point shooter i don't know if that makes it all

1006
00:46:58,199 --> 00:47:00,760
that much. Easier to integrate him almost feels.

1007
00:47:00,519 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: Like if you were, going to integrate him it would

1008
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:04,400
have to be just off the bench as kind of the,

1009
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,440
sixth man microwave score which is just we don't see

1010
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,119
that role from someone, his, size really Right right.

1011
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,079
Speaker 2: Or or butler, or draymond is gone like, then then

1012
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,719
then okay but then how good is the team in,

1013
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,280
that In that Hypothetic.

1014
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:21,559
Speaker 1: Maybe kevin DURANT on here uh i do it probably does,

1015
00:47:21,639 --> 00:47:25,039
help his market, value which in theory would make It

1016
00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:27,239
easier for the warriors to find a sign and trade

1017
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,880
partner that maybe is sending them someone or stuff back

1018
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,559
that they can use to. Go check other boxes but

1019
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,239
it's they're gonna be in the dilemma of you want

1020
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,760
to preserve the. Asset of the player but as you

1021
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,679
mentioned with, the ebbs and flows there is a chance

1022
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,280
that whatever you sign, him for this offseason you can't

1023
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,280
guarantee that that doesn't end up, being, a bad deal

1024
00:47:48,639 --> 00:47:51,199
right and that that's just the. Trouble that they're facing?

1025
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,719
Is there anything else just sort of like what are

1026
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,639
you what are you looking for in Game aside from is?

1027
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,519
Steph going To play, but like game five, for this

1028
00:47:57,559 --> 00:48:00,639
team specifically what do we need to be, LIKE looking.

1029
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 2: Towards well i think if you want to keep it

1030
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,719
Really brass tacks like butler just has to look Like

1031
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,039
he did in game Three as opposed to game four

1032
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,360
from an AGGRESSIVE like he really i think one of

1033
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,760
his best qualities is he really doesn't force, a lot

1034
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,159
of shots like he will be, Patient to a fault

1035
00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:21,920
and part of that, is because like athletically he just

1036
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,840
doesn't beat guys, like he used to and he has

1037
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:29,840
to be a two foot plant guy and he it foul,

1038
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,960
grifts like you know is. A master at it but

1039
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,039
part of that's by necessity because he's just not going

1040
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:36,960
to blow by and finish like a one foot lay.

1041
00:48:37,039 --> 00:48:40,280
Up on anybody anymore he has to just figure out

1042
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,880
ways to get you thirty plus efficiently and then drawn

1043
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,000
up defense to, get guys good shots and then the

1044
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,519
pods and the everybody else's of the world. Have to

1045
00:48:49,519 --> 00:48:52,480
make them it just Is it's. Just like game Three it's.

1046
00:48:52,519 --> 00:48:55,480
It's a jimmy game he has to be Great and

1047
00:48:55,519 --> 00:48:58,079
then the warriors guys who haven't made shots. Have to,

1048
00:48:58,119 --> 00:49:01,960
make them but like really none of, that Matters if they,

1049
00:49:02,159 --> 00:49:06,079
like draymond alluded to if they, don't defend like this

1050
00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:09,199
this has to, be a, game one you know with

1051
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,360
one team being. HELD under one hundred i think probably

1052
00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:14,480
it's A Lot like the rocket, series in that, way

1053
00:49:14,679 --> 00:49:18,239
where it's like this isn't gonna Be a game the warriors,

1054
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,360
win because you know They've got Thirty from butler and kaminga.

1055
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,679
Gives you thirty more like this is just not it's

1056
00:49:24,679 --> 00:49:26,679
not gonna be a one to twenty. Five one eighteen

1057
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,000
win that's just. Not in the card so it's, got

1058
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,400
to be slow it's got. To be a mess It's

1059
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,360
got to Be butler, out playing edwards probably which is like,

1060
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,360
a pretty you, know IT could. HAPPEN but i don't

1061
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,159
i don't, think, we need, to like you know try

1062
00:49:40,199 --> 00:49:42,519
to make this more. Interesting Than it is if, steph

1063
00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:46,320
doesn't play like everything's got to break right that that's

1064
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:47,400
just all that's that's all.

1065
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: THERE is TO it i THINK i agree with, i

1066
00:49:49,519 --> 00:49:51,760
think you said and the one like the lower hanging, fruit,

1067
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,480
Is Just like yeah jimmy butler. Can't take nine shots

1068
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:55,760
but the other thing is that, if You Tell me

1069
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,360
if buddy healed goes two of, six From three again

1070
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,360
like i'm just gonna think, that they got destroyed.

1071
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,599
Speaker 2: He needs to be like seven of twelve. Or something

1072
00:50:02,639 --> 00:50:03,880
like that and he might even need To do that.

1073
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: If. Steph, is playing.

1074
00:50:05,039 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 2: Right Yeah. THAT'S true the wolves.

1075
00:50:08,199 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: I kind of, wanted to start here how Did how

1076
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,519
do the wars go about like they don't Have, anybody

1077
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:16,960
aside from draymond but like they Everybody That then defend

1078
00:50:17,039 --> 00:50:19,159
julius randalls that like Kind of a weird you can

1079
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,079
say The same, thing about, edwards too which, is by

1080
00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:22,960
the way that's part of The reason why the cominga,

1081
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,400
stuff is So fascinating because the warriors at once seem

1082
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,719
like they need more shooting and someone who can check

1083
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,000
the other team's best perimeter player because You Don't necessarily

1084
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,039
want jimmy butler, doing that These days and like kaminga. Checks,

1085
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:36,920
not those boxes.

1086
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 2: Well the thing is like he Was pretty effective on

1087
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,480
Edwards for stretches of game three And then some, of

1088
00:50:43,519 --> 00:50:47,320
game four even but that's just kaminga can really only

1089
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,159
be a highly effective defender if you're not throwing. Anything

1090
00:50:51,199 --> 00:50:52,800
else at him, And he's just like i'm guarding, this

1091
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,199
guy in isolation like he's as athletic as anyone in

1092
00:50:56,199 --> 00:50:58,000
the league and can. Sort OF do that And i

1093
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,719
think the wolves did a better job Of like punishing

1094
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,000
the warriors for thinking they could continue to get Away.

1095
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,199
With him, on edwards, but yeah YOU'RE right there's just

1096
00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:09,800
i guess maybe the makeup of the, team, is, such

1097
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,440
that well okay We need to play peyton as, an

1098
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,639
on ball defender or We got to have looney in

1099
00:51:14,679 --> 00:51:17,239
there to give us a. Chance on the boards and

1100
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,280
you're just like you're just peeling away strengths in other

1101
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:21,960
areas when you, play guys like, that, or it's Like

1102
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,199
oh Let's play Buddy. And moody and pods do we

1103
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,480
get some spacing or post and. You're sacrificing Other stuff

1104
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,559
and the wolves are just they've Got guys that like,

1105
00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:33,400
randall being an example he's defended. Well in the playoffs

1106
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,719
he's playmaking really well in the play like you're, not

1107
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,000
taking anything away.

1108
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,679
Speaker 1: Are shooting At The. Rim against. Julius randall this.

1109
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:42,079
Speaker 2: Year oh it's is it. In the single digits.

1110
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 1: It's WHICH is higher than i, thought it would be to,

1111
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:46,599
be honest with.

1112
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:49,079
Speaker 2: You but that's not good at the rim like.

1113
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:51,079
Speaker 1: That that you need THAT'S my point is i thought

1114
00:51:51,079 --> 00:51:52,639
it was going to, Be even, worse, THOUGH.

1115
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,679
Speaker 2: BUT yeah NO i I, think i think minnesota like

1116
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,400
we Don't even. Talked about jade McDaniels he that guy's

1117
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,559
just gonna be. ON winning teams forever i think IT

1118
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:04,360
was a thought. I had.

1119
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: Last night is it it's kind of like the it's

1120
00:52:08,159 --> 00:52:11,119
We Call and like andrew Nemhart Has the playoff jimmy

1121
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:14,360
butler switch is. The analog for everything jade McDaniels on

1122
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,199
offense Just Has the. Playoff jimmy, butler, Switch it's like yeah.

1123
00:52:17,199 --> 00:52:19,280
I'll call. Have threes why not i'm not gonna do

1124
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:19,679
it all the time.

1125
00:52:19,679 --> 00:52:22,199
Speaker 2: In the regular season but and he like that's the

1126
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,039
other thing is a lot of. What, made it so

1127
00:52:24,519 --> 00:52:26,559
yeah maybe he was sick and he's, got the Glute

1128
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:30,639
injury but Like butler, isolating against jade McDaniels. Like that

1129
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,719
cannot be that's not A favorable situation. For butler at

1130
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,280
all like McDaniels is brutally, tough to score on especially

1131
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,840
if you're someone that like is, not blowing by anybody

1132
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,719
and you need to like score over Or around. Length

1133
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,599
like butler does like that's just like McDaniels has been,

1134
00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:51,440
a huge and again don't underrate like how important he's

1135
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,320
gonna be in A game five that butler has to

1136
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,280
score A ton for the warriors, To have a chance

1137
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,840
like McDaniels will, have that as assignment and like he's

1138
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,000
just he's just really. Hard to score On and even

1139
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,679
if butler, does get a bunch he's gonna have. To

1140
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,119
work for IT and then And i just think. Daniels

1141
00:53:07,159 --> 00:53:11,559
has been. Awesome Randall's been fantastic the Warriors Haven't. Picked

1142
00:53:11,559 --> 00:53:13,719
on mike conley Part Of that's because mike conley's been.

1143
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:18,000
Like pretty Good defensively and then edwards hasn't really for

1144
00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:21,880
an entire game unless my, memory is really gone just

1145
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,280
dominated he's done it for a half or he's done. It,

1146
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,840
For a quarter yeah like there's Still the possibility that

1147
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,079
edwards is just like there's, blood in the water this

1148
00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:31,920
is over and, He gives you forty like that's.

1149
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: Doesn't he seem like maybe all, stars are like this

1150
00:53:34,039 --> 00:53:36,320
but it feels more pronounced with him because it goes

1151
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,159
from like this valley to this peak where it's just

1152
00:53:38,199 --> 00:53:40,920
like he needs to see like two quarters of basketball

1153
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,000
to understand how teams are gonna defend him and then

1154
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,400
adjust his. Decision, making from there yeah very much feels

1155
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,079
like that's what it's. Been IN this series but i

1156
00:53:48,159 --> 00:53:51,119
just wanted To harp on. Your Jade McDaniel's point the

1157
00:53:51,159 --> 00:53:54,280
warriors When He is carding jimmy butler this series are

1158
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,679
averaging point sixty. Five points per Possession that checks out

1159
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,519
you're what You're saying. TOO about game five i do

1160
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:03,840
feel like a lot Of the, value with jade McDaniels

1161
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,559
like throughout the season and maybe why he's not and

1162
00:54:06,679 --> 00:54:09,760
we could be, guilty of this too where he didn't

1163
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,840
feel like as much of a mainstay in all. DEFENSE

1164
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,079
discussions this year i don't think he began the season

1165
00:54:14,159 --> 00:54:16,639
as well, as he normally does but like he's the

1166
00:54:16,679 --> 00:54:19,880
type of defender where if, you, have the ball well

1167
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:22,159
either you won't get the ball or, once you get

1168
00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:23,800
it like you're trying to. Get, rid of It Yeah

1169
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,239
it's like jimmy butler having to be in a mindset

1170
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,320
where he's not someone, who forces shots specifically and now

1171
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,199
it feels like he's either, not getting the ball but, it's,

1172
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,440
more so like oh he's just not really. Taking as

1173
00:54:33,519 --> 00:54:36,039
many shots jay McDaniel's a. Huge part of that and

1174
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:39,079
so the mindset shift, that you're talking about That's. An

1175
00:54:39,079 --> 00:54:41,280
adjustment for jimmy and then you have To, do it,

1176
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,039
knowing Oh like no it's jaye McDaniels for specialized in

1177
00:54:44,119 --> 00:54:46,440
getting people to not have the ball or to get.

1178
00:54:46,519 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 2: Rid, of the ball yeah And How EFFECTIVELY can golden

1179
00:54:49,559 --> 00:54:52,920
state i Guess, you would use pajemski who maybe Is,

1180
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,519
getting guarded by conley to set screens So you Can,

1181
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,360
have butler target conley but like He's just gonna post conley.

1182
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,559
Up and back down That's gonna give the wolves plenty

1183
00:55:01,559 --> 00:55:04,119
of time to load to one side or to send

1184
00:55:04,119 --> 00:55:06,519
a second guy, if you need to Because chances are

1185
00:55:06,519 --> 00:55:08,599
the Warriors, are gonna have like does this just create

1186
00:55:08,639 --> 00:55:11,360
A bunch? Of open Draymond threes which the wolves, Will,

1187
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,079
be like great like you? Can't win this Way take?

1188
00:55:14,119 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: Six In game four the wolves do that? As an,

1189
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:16,599
absolute win.

1190
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah and like it's an absolute win for them, and,

1191
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,960
it's also like yeah he kind of needs to shoot

1192
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,000
those because they're. Just, Not getting better shit it's like

1193
00:55:23,519 --> 00:55:26,480
it's a maybe that's like that's a pretty good summation

1194
00:55:26,599 --> 00:55:29,480
of where we. Are in This series is those draymond

1195
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,360
shots are both kind of like the right shots quote

1196
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,280
unquote for the circumstances with no steph like you can't

1197
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,239
be sure. You're getting anything better and there Are also shots, that,

1198
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,639
minnesota is like well that defensive possession. Was a huge

1199
00:55:40,639 --> 00:55:43,199
success if we Give up, an open draymon Three like

1200
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,760
that's that that's that's like? A you're are you is

1201
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,000
that like the definition of drawing Dead if you're? The

1202
00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:52,199
warriors like that in that little in that particular, Thing,

1203
00:55:52,199 --> 00:55:54,239
we're talking about yeah it.

1204
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: Has to be right and do you? Remember what was

1205
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,239
it there was that the twenty fifteen twenty sixteen season

1206
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,079
where he shot like thirty seven percent or whatever or

1207
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,280
three really might BE a top ten nba player now because.

1208
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 2: You can HIT threes i'm sure i made that argument

1209
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:06,320
at some point.

1210
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: Anything else On just, LIKE the wolves front i mean

1211
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,039
To Be here like dante DiVincenzo hasn't really hit. A,

1212
00:56:12,039 --> 00:56:14,119
ton of, SHOTS yeah this series i do, find, it

1213
00:56:14,159 --> 00:56:16,880
funny that like remember and we. Were probably among them

1214
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,960
he might have even alluded to this at the top kind,

1215
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,039
Of calling like, well nasreez should start and it's just

1216
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:25,079
like you still played twenty Seven plus, minutes in game, four,

1217
00:56:25,199 --> 00:56:27,320
but it's, Like Oh you know julius rendolds kind of neutered.

1218
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,760
That Part Of it even rudy gobert has held up

1219
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,960
really well, defensively in this series which was. Never really

1220
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,400
a question it's, always about the offense and he's kind

1221
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,639
of done enough there to Where it's like the warriors, Haven't, made,

1222
00:56:37,679 --> 00:56:40,280
them pay, Like Like you know rudy gobert's got good

1223
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,320
enough on offense To where the tim wolves hadn't, have

1224
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,840
to think about oh do we need to lower his

1225
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,840
minutes a ton at any point.

1226
00:56:46,199 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 2: As, you look at It let's assume. The wolves win

1227
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,639
it we'll do our full look ahead at some, Point or,

1228
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:55,239
series preview but like do You think broadly the wolves

1229
00:56:55,320 --> 00:57:00,320
have been tested enough or in ways in this series

1230
00:57:01,039 --> 00:57:04,920
that tells you anything about how they Might fare Against,

1231
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,360
the thunder or nuggets or do you think they're still

1232
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,400
like they shouldn't be favored against, either of those teams

1233
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,559
or like do you still have because some of them, You,

1234
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:16,079
CAN'T really say Like i guess the randall piece of,

1235
00:57:16,119 --> 00:57:18,639
It HAS been encouraging but i don't know that you

1236
00:57:18,679 --> 00:57:22,960
can take away anything super Meaningful about like the wolves

1237
00:57:23,079 --> 00:57:25,800
overall quality From A series where steph curry plays like

1238
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,199
less than. Half, OF one game well i.

1239
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,039
Speaker 1: Think, the other thing too is so look at the

1240
00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:32,159
two teams that they face to this point that just

1241
00:57:32,239 --> 00:57:35,000
tilt so far towards the smaller. End of the spectrum

1242
00:57:35,199 --> 00:57:37,719
whatever team awaits in the next round is going, to

1243
00:57:37,719 --> 00:57:41,079
be appreciably larger right the Chet holmganna say a HEARTENSTEIN

1244
00:57:41,159 --> 00:57:43,199
Front and like o case he, does Downsize of points.

1245
00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:45,639
BUT denver Is Huge I know michael porter, junior is

1246
00:57:45,639 --> 00:57:48,840
Not Healthy but Him, Aaron Gordon to kolokic christian, brown's

1247
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:49,960
like really, strong has good.

1248
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,079
Speaker 2: Size he plays bigger. Than a, Two Guard yeah yeah.

1249
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: Peyton watson's what is he six? Or eight OR whatever

1250
00:57:54,039 --> 00:57:57,239
so like. I will be. FAIR i don't know i

1251
00:57:57,239 --> 00:58:00,239
wouldn't expect, them to be FAVORED but. IT would i

1252
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,280
don't i haven't seen. Enough to be LIKE and the

1253
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,719
thing i Don't, trust about the wolves which might run

1254
00:58:04,719 --> 00:58:07,400
counterintuitive to what. We've seen this series. IT is their

1255
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,679
offense i know some people have kind, of harped the defense.

1256
00:58:09,679 --> 00:58:11,840
But it's their offense i've just seen too many low

1257
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,480
lows for sum until it's, Like, in this series okay

1258
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,639
but yeah when, The, threes, go in like yeah look

1259
00:58:16,639 --> 00:58:18,239
at how versatile they, are on the Offensive And look what.

1260
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,960
Julius randall can do like we're not Far removed from

1261
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,880
that lakers series where they have like two of the worst.

1262
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,719
Three point shooting performances like there's just there's just those

1263
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,360
like turbulent swings from, them on The Offense and like

1264
00:58:29,639 --> 00:58:32,360
anthony edwards in some ways is kind of, the like

1265
00:58:32,519 --> 00:58:35,119
typifies that and He typified, it in game four like

1266
00:58:35,159 --> 00:58:36,840
what he was like kind of through what two and a,

1267
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,639
half quarters or whatever versus what he. Is AT the

1268
00:58:38,719 --> 00:58:42,960
end SO i would be i Wouldn't be, pessimistic About

1269
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,159
minnesota's chances but i'll. FRAME it this way i wouldn't

1270
00:58:45,159 --> 00:58:47,360
have a great feel for how what they've done so

1271
00:58:47,559 --> 00:58:50,480
far translates to. Either of those matchups.

1272
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,119
Speaker 2: That's MY sense too and i Can hear all, the,

1273
00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:55,800
wolves fans saying like welcome to the twenty Four to.

1274
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,639
Twenty five wolves experience because that's Just kind of been

1275
00:58:59,559 --> 00:59:02,000
it's kind that's pretty close to what the whole, season

1276
00:59:02,039 --> 00:59:04,360
has felt like where it's like the highs have been

1277
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,639
incredible and the lows are just like this team's, never

1278
00:59:06,719 --> 00:59:09,480
gonna beat anybody and it's all the same guys just

1279
00:59:09,519 --> 00:59:12,760
playing differently like that on night to night or. Like

1280
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,360
week to week do.

1281
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,559
Speaker 1: You, think it helps though that they've already beaten kind

1282
00:59:16,599 --> 00:59:18,360
of This. Version, of the nuggets.

1283
00:59:18,199 --> 00:59:20,039
Speaker 2: WELL that's the other, i, was gonna say like they'll

1284
00:59:20,039 --> 00:59:22,480
Be confident if it's, denver that They Get.

1285
00:59:23,079 --> 00:59:25,239
Speaker 1: Especially if nikola joki is still playing.

1286
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,639
Speaker 2: The, way, That, he was especially yeah he's gonna make

1287
00:59:26,679 --> 00:59:28,599
thirty percent of his shots or whatever it is, A,

1288
00:59:28,599 --> 00:59:31,239
three game Stretch yeah that's. The Nuggets are beatable if, Yoka,

1289
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:36,239
shoots thirty percent. Yeah THEY'LL BE confident but i i

1290
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,960
would still just, LOOKING at it now i Think. I'D

1291
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,840
probably favor denver i Would Definitely, favor the thunder like

1292
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,000
even though both of those teams, will look pretty flawed

1293
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,159
but part of that's because who they're, playing against each

1294
00:59:47,159 --> 00:59:48,880
other and, they're both really good so they can make

1295
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:50,920
each other. Look pretty bad sometimes.

1296
00:59:50,599 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: My Final, question, on THE wolves though because, i did

1297
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,360
just say. Don't trust their offense do you think that

1298
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,079
the pinnacle of their offense Is More dynamic with julius

1299
00:59:57,119 --> 00:59:58,639
randall Than It Was. With karl anthony?

1300
00:59:58,679 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 2: Towns, more More dynamic yeah because randal just does more With. The,

1301
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,679
ball THAN kat ever did i think.

1302
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,599
Speaker 1: Five dribble just play, making out of drives Which is

1303
01:00:08,639 --> 01:00:10,519
just something, Cat's never really done like he needs to

1304
01:00:10,519 --> 01:00:11,039
be a stand.

1305
01:00:11,119 --> 01:00:12,719
Speaker 2: Still to do it and you See it, with The

1306
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,519
knicks too where kat like, he took four threes like what? Like?

1307
01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:18,559
Speaker 1: How you know not that's like who do? YOU blame

1308
01:00:18,599 --> 01:00:19,920
that on i don't want to Make this, about the

1309
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,400
knicks Again but it's because towns just like it feels

1310
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,239
like he's only taking threes when he doesn't want to

1311
01:00:25,239 --> 01:00:26,760
get all the. Way up the floor he's like trailing

1312
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,599
in transition and did to pop? Them from Long range,

1313
01:00:28,599 --> 01:00:30,679
and then i'm Like is that on towns Or is

1314
01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:34,599
This on TIBs because towns is three point volume has Been. An, Issue, BEFORE.

1315
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,239
Speaker 2: Tibbs right, yeah i don't, know maybe it's HIM maybe

1316
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,239
HE just i don't i don't, know what it, IS

1317
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,239
but but Yeah i think with randal there's. Just a

1318
01:00:43,239 --> 01:00:47,639
playmaking dimension that's that that That, isn't there with towns Or,

1319
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,960
Wasn't THERE with towns Like. I don't, THINK randall i

1320
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,960
mean i don't, Know at the moment like it's pretty

1321
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,719
close call who's actually? A BETTER player today BUT i

1322
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,639
Mean rand i think towns. Is a better player Uh

1323
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,639
but right now randall Is playing better and Randall is

1324
01:01:02,679 --> 01:01:06,719
giving the wolves a stuff they wouldn't Have gotten FROM town.

1325
01:01:06,519 --> 01:01:08,159
Speaker 1: He took i don't know, if you saw this. He

1326
01:01:08,199 --> 01:01:10,639
kind of took he took shots. To the knicks too

1327
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,840
where he was he when HE gave an Interview I,

1328
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,639
think was john krasinski the. Athletic and his piece, randall

1329
01:01:15,679 --> 01:01:18,719
Mentioned like yeah like i'm, not standing around now And

1330
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,360
It was. Like tom, tibodau, listening it's.

1331
01:01:22,239 --> 01:01:24,239
Speaker 2: Like man he's Really Mad about. THOSE new orleans, years,

1332
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:25,679
i guess yeah right.

1333
01:01:26,079 --> 01:01:30,639
Speaker 1: It is guess a player time. Falling into the gap let's.

1334
01:01:30,679 --> 01:01:32,559
Not waste any time always we. Fall, into the GAP

1335
01:01:32,599 --> 01:01:35,280
grant how about i begin with. Some fos for you

1336
01:01:36,119 --> 01:01:40,559
This One comes from. AUSTIN clue number one i am

1337
01:01:40,639 --> 01:01:43,760
one of only eight players To Have, won THE Triple,

1338
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,320
crown AN Ncaa, championship AN nba championship which I Won,

1339
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,599
with the Boston celtics and. AN olympic gold medal i

1340
01:01:50,679 --> 01:01:55,159
also won two high school basketball state championships and A bronze. Medal, in,

1341
01:01:55,239 --> 01:01:56,880
fiba basketball.

1342
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 2: Geez Okay. Well this is Austin you say, The celtics

1343
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:09,360
championship though UH and, you said, nba title collegiate. Title,

1344
01:02:09,679 --> 01:02:13,199
AND gold Medal yes i mean tatum's got. TWO of

1345
01:02:13,239 --> 01:02:17,320
the three i don't think that. DUKE team won It

1346
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,280
i mean the celtics. Have so many championships do?

1347
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,719
Speaker 1: High? School, basketball championships not like is there like a

1348
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,199
quad one like what's considered LIKE the four.

1349
01:02:26,639 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 2: THE i don't know i feel like there's so many

1350
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,920
like divisions in high school THERE'S Like the five, a

1351
01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:34,480
states or. WHATEVER and the four i don't understand high school.

1352
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:38,440
Sports is the Takeaway It. CAN'T be jason Tatum I

1353
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:43,480
will say bill russell just. Because that is incorrect we

1354
01:02:43,519 --> 01:02:43,800
move on.

1355
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: To clude number two known, FOR my defensive prowess i

1356
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:49,239
WAS Named To the Nba all defense. Second, team four.

1357
01:02:49,039 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 2: Times Hmmm That's. Definitely not bill? Russell, better than that.

1358
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:59,719
UH all good defender i guess All we know is,

1359
01:02:59,719 --> 01:03:08,880
boss just, HIGHLY decorated uh, Man I, don't know. Tommy heinsen,

1360
01:03:09,559 --> 01:03:11,119
NO good guess though.

1361
01:03:12,119 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: I think this would BE a clue that i think you.

1362
01:03:14,039 --> 01:03:16,400
Could get it. ON clue number three i had a,

1363
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,559
short LIVED coaching career as i was Head Coach of

1364
01:03:18,559 --> 01:03:21,639
the dallas, mavericks for one season posting a brutal thirteen. And,

1365
01:03:21,679 --> 01:03:24,039
sixty nine record oh.

1366
01:03:23,559 --> 01:03:26,599
Speaker 2: Who was in charge Of? The really bad MAVs although

1367
01:03:26,599 --> 01:03:28,239
there were a lot Of Really bad mass.

1368
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:29,239
Speaker 1: Nico harrison?

1369
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:35,039
Speaker 2: Is, not, they're fine now well can you read?

1370
01:03:35,039 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: THAT one more time i had a, short LIVED coaching

1371
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,800
career as i was Head Coach of the dallas, mavericks

1372
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,559
for one season boasting a brutal thirteen. AND sixty nine, Record.

1373
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:50,239
Speaker 2: I Don't Know, I'll, say dick mauta no Did? HE

1374
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:54,280
coach the, MAVs i Think though, that's incredible.

1375
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: Clue Four while Rocking my cream and crimson threads and

1376
01:04:00,199 --> 01:04:03,519
boasting an impressive thirty, seven game win Streak Sweeping the

1377
01:04:03,679 --> 01:04:05,719
entire big ten by an average of twenty two point.

1378
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,280
Eight points per game, now this is, like THIS is

1379
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:10,719
college so i would, Have gotten It?

1380
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 2: Here cream and Crimson? IS that JUST indiana, i guess

1381
01:04:15,519 --> 01:04:18,360
i mean that's. Just, Red and white though i'm going.

1382
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,480
To need. ANOTHER clue clue.

1383
01:04:20,159 --> 01:04:23,039
Speaker 1: Five i played both basketball And, Football for the, hoosiers

1384
01:04:23,239 --> 01:04:26,239
so There Go earning all big ten honors in football

1385
01:04:26,239 --> 01:04:29,400
as a freshman before. FOCUSING solely on basketball.

1386
01:04:29,519 --> 01:04:31,559
Speaker 2: I have no idea how many? More clues are there?

1387
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: There are five?

1388
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 2: More oh, my god all. Right let's.

1389
01:04:35,079 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: KEEP going clue six i was SELECTED to both The

1390
01:04:38,519 --> 01:04:41,679
Nba by the MILWAUKEE bucks And the nfl the washington

1391
01:04:42,199 --> 01:04:44,280
Now Known. As, THE washington COMMANDERS.

1392
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:48,199
Speaker 2: Well i demonstrated i did not know who played Basketball,

1393
01:04:48,239 --> 01:04:50,119
and football in indiana. So, that doesn't help.

1394
01:04:50,519 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: Next please clue seven my First, name is actually william

1395
01:04:54,239 --> 01:04:56,360
but everyone calls me, by my middle. Name, WHICH is

1396
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:00,039
blank okay i.

1397
01:05:00,159 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 2: Don't. Know what's next.

1398
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: Eight some notable former Teammates Of, Mine Include, Sidney Montcreef,

1399
01:05:07,519 --> 01:05:11,800
Larry Bird, Rick Carlyle, Danny ainge, robert Parrish Kevin. McHale

1400
01:05:12,119 --> 01:05:15,000
and tiny archibald so this gives you. Like, a an era.

1401
01:05:15,239 --> 01:05:22,159
Speaker 2: Yeah So We're. Seventies eighties sidney montcreef so that Does.

1402
01:05:22,199 --> 01:05:24,559
A lot Of celtics but isn't montcreef as Like a?

1403
01:05:25,159 --> 01:05:27,400
Mostly a bucks guy maybe.

1404
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: What? Are Those, Names Again, Sidney Montcreef, Larry Bird, Rick Carlisle,

1405
01:05:34,039 --> 01:05:36,840
Danny Ainge, robert Parrish Kevin. McHale, and tiny.

1406
01:05:36,639 --> 01:05:42,039
Speaker 2: Archibald, okay SO that's archibald. Though, i don't know WAIT

1407
01:05:42,079 --> 01:05:44,880
how many? Do i? Have left one more just give.

1408
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,519
Me THE, LAST one post nba.

1409
01:05:47,519 --> 01:05:50,159
Speaker 1: I tested out a new career in broadcasting and am

1410
01:05:50,199 --> 01:05:53,000
now the color COMMENTATOR for the team i finished my

1411
01:05:53,039 --> 01:05:53,760
playing career.

1412
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:57,119
Speaker 2: On, and we're Talking, well it's just Austin. So we

1413
01:05:57,599 --> 01:06:01,599
say pacers Oh who was? The, Pacers Color, Cope Yeah,

1414
01:06:02,639 --> 01:06:09,440
Quinn buckner dan correct let's go that, college Clue was

1415
01:06:09,639 --> 01:06:12,079
nasty while Rocky my.

1416
01:06:12,159 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: Cream and crimson threads. Nice, job by, YOU.

1417
01:06:16,119 --> 01:06:21,679
Speaker 2: Okay let's see i will offer You. One from be

1418
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:26,960
rich here we. Go clue number one after playing for

1419
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,440
a College Team, ON the east coast i was drafted

1420
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,199
in the lottery and was on the all rookie team

1421
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:36,119
only only ONE Time, in my nba careerly?

1422
01:06:36,159 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: What all rookie appearance that's rough when we're there's, no

1423
01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:41,519
year there.

1424
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,719
Speaker 2: Uh No college team east coast draft in the lottery

1425
01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:47,760
was all? Rookie uh just once so.

1426
01:06:48,199 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: Someone who Was Drafted from an east coast college made.

1427
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,480
AN all rookie team I don't know what i was supposed.

1428
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,159
To do with, that LET me see can i name

1429
01:06:56,199 --> 01:06:57,559
anyone who is like kind of on? The?

1430
01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:58,119
Speaker 2: Jail? And?

1431
01:06:58,239 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: Rose?

1432
01:06:59,559 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 2: No good guess? Uh clude number two my team Finished,

1433
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,320
sixth in the west So. We're in the west my

1434
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,639
rookie year before getting gentlemen swept In Five, Games By,

1435
01:07:09,679 --> 01:07:12,079
sam CASSELL. Latrell sprewell and Kg.

1436
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 1: So that's the timberwolves they swept. In the first, ROUND

1437
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,039
this player's team i don't remember. What team that was

1438
01:07:22,159 --> 01:07:22,679
at least you Know.

1439
01:07:22,719 --> 01:07:23,719
Speaker 2: You're in the west.

1440
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,599
Speaker 1: Who would be a? ROOKIE in that era i don't

1441
01:07:28,599 --> 01:07:30,280
think you might have to give me? The, Next clue here.

1442
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: Okay clotoumber three my top three most Similar Players, According

1443
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,840
to basketball reference so be prepared to be misled because.

1444
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,440
These Are Always, Ridiculous Are rashid Wallace Ac? Green and

1445
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:41,760
paul millsap.

1446
01:07:43,599 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: What in the hell that second clue should be the

1447
01:07:49,079 --> 01:07:51,440
one that, HELPS me so far I can't remember who,

1448
01:07:51,519 --> 01:07:55,000
minnesota SWEPT that year which i wonder if that's the

1449
01:07:55,079 --> 01:07:57,199
year that they made it. To, the conference finals.

1450
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,159
Speaker 2: Well it's a gentleman's sweep, to be, for one you

1451
01:08:00,159 --> 01:08:05,199
know so in case you're, only thinking, OF sweeps adjuster thoughts,

1452
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:11,000
i still have, nothing but, all right next clue this will.

1453
01:08:11,079 --> 01:08:14,800
This will probably help my career stats are twenty, three

1454
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,720
point four points, six point five boards and two point.

1455
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,800
EIGHT assists per game i Made SECOND or third all

1456
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,840
nba teams a total of seven, times in my career but.

1457
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,359
Never a first, TEAM. TO. Be clear A c green

1458
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,159
and i were not similar players in any way other

1459
01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:33,800
than maybe hanging around a. Few, Too Many Years.

1460
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: Okay west western conference, rookie around that Time TURNED into.

1461
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:47,279
An all nba player oh this. IS this is Tough

1462
01:08:47,319 --> 01:08:49,840
i feel like i'm gonna hear the name. And then get, frustrated,

1463
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,239
you've got one.

1464
01:08:52,239 --> 01:08:54,520
Speaker 2: Two three, more clues oh shit.

1465
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:55,119
Speaker 1: Give me.

1466
01:08:55,159 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 2: Another clue NEXT clue six times i averaged more than

1467
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,199
two twenty five points per. GAME in the playoffs i

1468
01:09:02,239 --> 01:09:05,720
made a conference finals only one. Time in thirteen tries

1469
01:09:07,399 --> 01:09:08,199
trying to think when that?

1470
01:09:08,239 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 1: Conference final Thirteen? Tries is that carmelo?

1471
01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:13,039
Speaker 2: Oh you Got?

1472
01:09:13,119 --> 01:09:13,319
Speaker 1: It?

1473
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:16,399
Speaker 2: It is carmel yeah oh what what? Did it for you?

1474
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,279
Speaker 1: JUST the playoff successful i thought his name didn't COME

1475
01:09:20,279 --> 01:09:22,640
to mind BECAUSE i really thought i was like he

1476
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:26,000
was AROUND for Like. The kg era timberwolves well that.

1477
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 2: Would have been oh that would, have, been, four five

1478
01:09:30,039 --> 01:09:34,319
right yeah so That probably Was, THE conference. Final, wolves i, think,

1479
01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:35,640
yeah it's like.

1480
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: Wow so go me.

1481
01:09:38,279 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 2: Mellow's conference finals Appearance Was. With, the, denver nuggets, okay?

1482
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:43,439
Yea all right?

1483
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 1: Gotcha they that year was? It twenty Twelve. Thirteen with

1484
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,279
the knicks it looked like they were the Second. Best

1485
01:09:48,279 --> 01:09:50,399
team they east it looked Like they just got They

1486
01:09:50,399 --> 01:09:53,399
went to that pacers series and. It was just Disaster That's.

1487
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:57,199
Speaker 2: Like the mike, woodson As The Coach Like jason kidd tyson.

1488
01:09:57,279 --> 01:09:58,840
Chandler's team, big man.

1489
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: All right. Your turn let's go so, First Time, SUBMITTER,

1490
01:10:04,039 --> 01:10:08,479
here grant, okay bjp all? Right are you ready don't? Know,

1491
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,760
what to expect uh you can expect three clues Because. That's,

1492
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:16,640
All you wow. OKAY clue number one i am one

1493
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,199
of the worst contracts in the league and cost my. Team, a,

1494
01:10:19,199 --> 01:10:20,239
BETTER player.

1495
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:25,359
Speaker 2: Hmm well i guess we're. Talking about right now worst

1496
01:10:25,359 --> 01:10:27,720
contracts in the league cost my. Team a better, Player

1497
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:32,079
so what hmm you're not, gonna get, THIS one, You,

1498
01:10:32,079 --> 01:10:33,600
Know i think well i'm just trying, to think in

1499
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:40,319
discord like what's he complain? About, Most contract wise, Uh I'll, just, say,

1500
01:10:40,359 --> 01:10:41,439
paul george.

1501
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:45,520
Speaker 1: No incorrect and You're you're, AROUND the you're like i

1502
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,119
think you're on. The, right mindset track, okay CLUE number

1503
01:10:48,159 --> 01:10:50,039
two and i want to Reiterate This. IS not paul

1504
01:10:50,039 --> 01:10:53,880
george i am terrible at my. Quote, unquote side, Hustle.

1505
01:10:55,960 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 2: Okay all right uh lost my, team a, better player

1506
01:11:02,399 --> 01:11:07,000
terrible contract terrible, at his side hustle which like sort of.

1507
01:11:07,079 --> 01:11:15,680
HAS to be, podcasting, i would think hmm worst. Contracts

1508
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:19,119
in the league who else has got a? PODCAST that's doing.

1509
01:11:19,159 --> 01:11:25,239
It i, Don't Know i'll say jimmy butler? Has a

1510
01:11:25,279 --> 01:11:27,880
side hustle? DID he cost them i can't Say. He

1511
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:33,279
Costs the warriors kevin durant? His contracts not great who's?

1512
01:11:33,319 --> 01:11:35,079
GOT a terrible CONTRACT.

1513
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 1: I think, THAT i will say i believe this is

1514
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:41,239
overstating how. Bad, The, contract.

1515
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 2: Currently okay uh that the costing is team that feels

1516
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,560
like it should be a way into this because like

1517
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:48,800
who was when was this and where where is like

1518
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,640
this either or. DECISION at some point.

1519
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,039
Speaker 1: I have two Bonus, clues already for okay.

1520
01:11:55,399 --> 01:11:57,399
Speaker 2: We'll get you there i'll. Take, the third clue then

1521
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:58,159
please CLUE.

1522
01:11:58,239 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: NUMBER three From bjp i BEAT duke. In the ncaa tournament.

1523
01:12:02,399 --> 01:12:06,279
Speaker 2: That's. NOT gonna help uh i don't Remember the last

1524
01:12:06,279 --> 01:12:08,520
time duke was in, the in the. Final, probably pretty

1525
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:12,359
recently oh it's, just in the TOURNAMENT so that. Doesn't i,

1526
01:12:12,399 --> 01:12:15,640
don't know all right? What's my bonus clue i'm trying.

1527
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 1: TO think of what i don't think this will. Be

1528
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,840
a dead giveaway so the players that were traded, to,

1529
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:26,359
acquire This Player Okay, Were Nikhil, Alexander Walker, josh Hart Dedi.

1530
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,680
Losada And, thomas SATARANSKI.

1531
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 2: All right so i guess? This player IS on. Is

1532
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:35,680
this CJ McCollum.

1533
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 1: This is cj McCollum who.

1534
01:12:39,199 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 2: Is this side hustle being the players rep or whatever

1535
01:12:42,119 --> 01:12:43,600
the whatever his ROLE is, WITH.

1536
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 1: The i mean i really don't think that he HELPED out,

1537
01:12:47,079 --> 01:12:49,880
the the cba negotiations if he was in charge in.

1538
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:51,640
ANY way of that i don't think The players, MADE.

1539
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 2: Up YEAH yeah i mean i can't imagine he Actually

1540
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:55,880
had any real.

1541
01:12:56,119 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 1: The deal, is like not great but it's. About to

1542
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,560
be expiring. So, THAT felt overstated.

1543
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,199
Speaker 2: Yeah i mean. It's a, Bad, contract all. RIGHT okay

1544
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:09,520
let's see, i Will go ahead and I'M not gonna

1545
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:13,359
do bjp next because you need to have YOUR brain cleansed.

1546
01:13:13,359 --> 01:13:15,359
Before i could see one of the clues. Is like,

1547
01:13:15,399 --> 01:13:20,600
pretty similar all Right. THIS is from mike i don't.

1548
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:24,520
Think we've done. This. This is okay. COOL clue number

1549
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:28,000
one i went undrafted in two thousand And. Nine out

1550
01:13:28,039 --> 01:13:31,800
of MARQUETTE it's a.

1551
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,399
Speaker 1: Player i should. Know that's the.

1552
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 2: Idea you you. Are aware of this you know? Who this?

1553
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,119
Player is all Right.

1554
01:13:42,319 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 1: Who went to marquette I'M gonna pretend like i would

1555
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:50,079
Know Who Went? TO marquette Austin krozer i do? Where

1556
01:13:50,079 --> 01:13:52,600
did he go that was definitely not? Two, thousand and.

1557
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 2: Nine no all. RIGHT clue number two i signed a

1558
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,920
one Year Deal with a western conference team my rookie

1559
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,319
year and eventually rose to the team Starting Shooting guard

1560
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,920
after ronnie brewer was traded at. The twenty ten Deadline.

1561
01:14:08,039 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: That was. A, western conference team yeah?

1562
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 2: Who do We Do you associate Ronnie? Brewer, with the

1563
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:16,279
BULLS yes that's.

1564
01:14:16,279 --> 01:14:21,119
Speaker 1: Why i, was curious me too was a starter as

1565
01:14:21,119 --> 01:14:25,079
a Rookie undrafted out of marquette. Two thousand and nine

1566
01:14:26,119 --> 01:14:31,760
so That's like around when steph. Comes, INTO the league well,

1567
01:14:32,279 --> 01:14:32,640
i got?

1568
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 2: No?

1569
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: Idea next, clue.

1570
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,359
Speaker 2: Please all right this will give you a sense of

1571
01:14:35,399 --> 01:14:38,199
like kind of what what player. Type we're dealing with,

1572
01:14:38,239 --> 01:14:40,279
after MY rookie year where i played all eighty two

1573
01:14:40,359 --> 01:14:44,039
games despite having, JUST gone gone undrafted i averaged, nine

1574
01:14:44,079 --> 01:14:47,079
points a game shooting thirty eight percent from three in

1575
01:14:47,119 --> 01:14:50,079
a career high forty. PERCENT from the field, i can't be.

1576
01:14:50,119 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 1: Right career high forty. Percent from The field you're sure

1577
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,119
i'm supposed to know? Who, this player.

1578
01:14:54,159 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 2: Is yeah you do let. Me look that.

1579
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,199
Speaker 1: Up that's let's see.

1580
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 2: Don't listen to the keystrokes of me typing and try

1581
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,119
to guess how. Long, the name, is.

1582
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,159
Speaker 1: Yeah hold on everyone be everyone BE really quiet so i.

1583
01:15:07,159 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 2: Can listen to it.

1584
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,039
Speaker 1: Two, thousand and nine.

1585
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,560
Speaker 2: Oh AND THEN It's sorry i i and then he

1586
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:19,880
after that rookie year where, he was previously undrafted shot thirty,

1587
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,720
eight percent from three career high, forty from the field. He, hits,

1588
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:23,920
free agency.

1589
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: Well yeah on a one year. Deal As a, rookie,

1590
01:15:29,159 --> 01:15:30,439
Gilbert arenez.

1591
01:15:31,039 --> 01:15:35,319
Speaker 2: No okay so the career high wasn't was not forty.

1592
01:15:35,359 --> 01:15:38,520
Percent from the field that that rookie year he shot

1593
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,000
forty eight, percent from the field which. Was a, career

1594
01:15:41,039 --> 01:15:41,800
high so.

1595
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,520
Speaker 1: WELL this. Changes, everything i guess well just like that

1596
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,680
would be a weird player that only ever shot forty,

1597
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,560
percent from The field and then i'm supposed to. Know, who,

1598
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:53,039
they are yeah, yeah mar, all right next clue.

1599
01:15:53,039 --> 01:15:56,319
Speaker 2: Please clue number. FOUR here you Go i signed with

1600
01:15:56,399 --> 01:15:59,199
portland for five years, and THIRTY four million where i

1601
01:15:59,239 --> 01:16:02,119
would be, a full time starter averaging around fifteen a game.

1602
01:16:02,119 --> 01:16:03,560
For my entire Tenure There.

1603
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: Is that Wesley Matthews.

1604
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 2: THAT is wesley matthews i, WAS about to say i

1605
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,640
think you're, gonna get. IT here good job i did

1606
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:13,399
not Know. HE went to marquette i didn't. Know HE

1607
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:16,520
went UNDRAFTED oh i think. I had IT back I,

1608
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,439
think i knew marquetta not. That he was undrafted That,

1609
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,279
rookie year was, utah by the way WHICH like kind. Of,

1610
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,039
I vaguely remember Now.

1611
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,319
Speaker 1: I don't remember Ronnie. Brewer on the JAZZ i'm.

1612
01:16:26,319 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 2: NOT gonna i, do I do now but i'm not

1613
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,640
SURE if that's something i actually remember or now that

1614
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:32,840
IT'S like a Fact I can picture ronnie brewer.

1615
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,399
Speaker 1: In a jazz jersey are you ready to get into the? Mindset?

1616
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:40,600
Of a sociopath yes clue Number, ONE from be rich

1617
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:42,640
i was taken in the first round of the twenty

1618
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:49,159
Fourteen Draft by. A western Conference team.

1619
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 2: We've established i'm not good at.

1620
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,239
Speaker 1: This kind of theory if you were to like kind

1621
01:16:52,279 --> 01:16:55,319
of mathematic you could narrow down to like fifteen players

1622
01:16:55,319 --> 01:16:57,399
if you think that all of the teams had. Each

1623
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,279
had a fund that's find. Of how, it worked.

1624
01:16:59,319 --> 01:17:02,119
Speaker 2: BUT well let's see i Was Going, to say andrew

1625
01:17:02,159 --> 01:17:04,600
wiggins but he was Actually. Drafted By the calves and

1626
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:09,720
i'm also not sure, That THAT'S twenty fourteen so i got. A,

1627
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:14,840
few Issues, There, uh enis kanter.

1628
01:17:15,319 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 1: No, that's, a good. Guess though is, IT clue number

1629
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,119
two i went To, high school in paris even though

1630
01:17:24,119 --> 01:17:28,439
you do not recognize. International, schooling as proper.

1631
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,520
Speaker 2: WELL that should help, i went twenty fourteen went To,

1632
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:42,399
high school in paris First rounder in the west but.

1633
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:43,920
Toom is too.

1634
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,520
Speaker 1: Old this is a really. Good guess. A player.

1635
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:53,399
Speaker 2: I'm glad i'm. Glad, you like it hmmm? Who is

1636
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:57,399
twenty fourteen why is that such a dead period in

1637
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,720
like my remembering drafts.

1638
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 1: The Year after. The anthony bennett, draft, if that.

1639
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:06,239
Speaker 2: Helps well So it, is the, WIGGANS draft THEN right

1640
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:12,800
i think i. Think WE'LL check that but i also

1641
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,760
can't remember who else. WAS in that draft i don't

1642
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,319
really know how that's, going to help, you to be honest.

1643
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:20,319
Speaker 1: But, It was that yes wiggins was Drafted. In twenty.

1644
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:24,399
Speaker 2: Fourteen, Paris, THAT'S interesting. UH no i don't i don't

1645
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,359
have any how? Many CLUES are there do i need? To?

1646
01:18:26,359 --> 01:18:26,960
Start panicking?

1647
01:18:27,039 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: YET no you have i think you. Got, four more.

1648
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,199
Speaker 2: Left Okay let's let's continue.

1649
01:18:33,279 --> 01:18:35,520
Speaker 1: Clue three and, My eleven year career i've. Played for

1650
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:39,079
two teams i've attempted six threes total for my entire

1651
01:18:39,119 --> 01:18:42,079
career and. Made none, of, them oh nice.

1652
01:18:42,159 --> 01:18:46,319
Speaker 2: Okay uh two teams first One, was in the west

1653
01:18:47,159 --> 01:18:53,199
not shooting. A lot. Of threes french guy oh Uh Is? This? Just,

1654
01:18:53,319 --> 01:18:56,680
rudy gobert no oh he? Was the second, ROUNDER.

1655
01:18:58,079 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 1: Wasn't even.

1656
01:19:00,199 --> 01:19:03,039
Speaker 2: Now i don't remember it? Wasn't like Doesn't well and

1657
01:19:03,079 --> 01:19:05,760
the nuggets Drafted wasn't? He a nuggets pick? And they

1658
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,479
TRADED him just so i can, LIKE say some things

1659
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,720
i actually do know TO COVER up what? I? I

1660
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:12,399
don't Know.

1661
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,279
Speaker 1: Uh did shiel bert was drafted in two thousand and

1662
01:19:16,319 --> 01:19:19,520
you were one year twenty seventh? Overall? In, twenty thirteen.

1663
01:19:19,279 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 2: Okay oh so wow he. Was, a first rounder. Yeah.

1664
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,319
Speaker 1: He was traded uh The Traded him for Eric green

1665
01:19:28,399 --> 01:19:31,239
and cash wo Worked. Out for the jazz.

1666
01:19:32,399 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 2: Could He? Have played, with jokic probably not although they

1667
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,399
Were more worried about. Nurkic At The time.

1668
01:19:36,239 --> 01:19:39,079
Speaker 1: Could Donovan mitchell And jamal murray. AND jokic played together.

1669
01:19:39,359 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 2: I think they would. HAVE found a way i think they, would, have,

1670
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:46,680
BEEN alright ummm. YEAH i don't. Know i don't. Know

1671
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:48,520
LET'S let's continue.

1672
01:19:48,279 --> 01:19:51,279
Speaker 1: Oh i thought you? Were gonna? Get? It really yeah.

1673
01:19:51,039 --> 01:19:53,640
Uh code number four i've led the league in rebounding

1674
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,640
once during the twenty twenty twenty twenty one season and

1675
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,680
top ten and rebounds PER game. For current nba players

1676
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,399
i've also led the league and field goal percentage. Once.

1677
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 2: For, my career wow okay who's just? Getting Tons? Of,

1678
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,079
rebounds andre drummond.

1679
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 1: No Did you think audrey drummond went To? High school in? Paris.

1680
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 2: You, never know man also he was Not drafted by,

1681
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,399
a western conference team just just trying to. Think of.

1682
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:24,760
REBOUNDERS here, LET'S see i mean i don't have no

1683
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,600
reason to believe he Went, to School In Paris. BUT

1684
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:29,640
steven adams no i.

1685
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 1: Like that one though.

1686
01:20:33,399 --> 01:20:34,560
Speaker 2: LET me see if i can think of one More

1687
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:38,600
rebounder IN the west that. I should have got i,

1688
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,319
should get it right like HOW many different guys i.

1689
01:20:40,359 --> 01:20:42,279
Speaker 1: Think you should? Have gotten in now but based off

1690
01:20:42,319 --> 01:20:45,159
your previous, LIKE your initial guests i thought you were.

1691
01:20:45,119 --> 01:20:49,359
Speaker 2: About to get it Based Off of. My rudy gobert,

1692
01:20:49,399 --> 01:20:54,119
GUESS oh all right i feel like that's you're, trying

1693
01:20:54,119 --> 01:20:59,960
TO help me. And i appreciate it? God DAMN who else.

1694
01:21:00,119 --> 01:21:02,159
Even i don't know. I'll take another.

1695
01:21:02,199 --> 01:21:06,520
Speaker 1: Clue clue number five dan hates my name because my first.

1696
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,319
Name is one syllable my. Full name is alliterative that

1697
01:21:09,359 --> 01:21:11,960
doesn't that's, NOT true. AT all, i don't i mean

1698
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,239
the one syllable, First NAME is whatever. But i love alliteration?

1699
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:16,920
Where's this coming from with.

1700
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 2: The, one syllable first? Name but it's alliterative.

1701
01:21:20,199 --> 01:21:23,159
Speaker 1: But the first and last? Name? Is an alliteration AH

1702
01:21:24,239 --> 01:21:25,800
but did have i ever? COME on the podcast i

1703
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,079
don't know what you have agation talking.

1704
01:21:28,119 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 2: About against al agensa that's. That's his friend's calling His.

1705
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,159
Speaker 1: NAME is, also, alexis.

1706
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 2: I know well if you, know him pretty well. You

1707
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:44,279
call him out let's see who it's.

1708
01:21:44,279 --> 01:21:45,359
Speaker 1: Just, golfing, with with.

1709
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,199
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah also probably never led. THE league in REBOUNDING

1710
01:21:49,279 --> 01:21:50,640
i would guess i will want to.

1711
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,159
Speaker 1: Give you Another Clue it's, not alex sabrinis, either if,

1712
01:21:53,199 --> 01:21:55,840
you okay uh.

1713
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 2: Yeah the the whole alliterative thing that could REBOUND should

1714
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:00,960
really just i should have.

1715
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 1: Had it by now the final. GET the final clue

1716
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:04,520
i believe.

1717
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,520
Speaker 2: You, will get IT well you thought i was Gonna Get.

1718
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,279
IT on rudy gobert i didn't think.

1719
01:22:09,159 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 1: That clue you. WERE gonna GET it i think i

1720
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,640
Thought Because you guessed rudy gobert that you.

1721
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,079
Speaker 2: Were, gonna GET it oh Because i picked a french guy, That.

1722
01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 1: You haven't, mentioned FRANK neelackina.

1723
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 2: Yet, which i, Am, yeah you, KNOW uh let's see

1724
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,279
i guess see was he in the league in twenty

1725
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:28,960
what the only year, we have is well twenty. Fourteen

1726
01:22:29,079 --> 01:22:31,279
to twenty twenty what? Year was his? Draft do, you

1727
01:22:31,319 --> 01:22:32,520
remember i'm like of course?

1728
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,600
Speaker 1: You Remember Whose. Draft neil kena.

1729
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 2: Milikena uh he was the two thousand and.

1730
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 1: Fifty was? It? Twenty seventeen draft, damn with a look

1731
01:22:43,039 --> 01:22:46,479
now he's been in the. LEAGUE for a minute i

1732
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:48,159
wanted do you want to know what My Comp? Was?

1733
01:22:48,199 --> 01:22:49,520
For frank, neilakina.

1734
01:22:49,279 --> 01:22:53,159
Speaker 2: Oh oh wait it. Can't be, this guy and no

1735
01:22:53,239 --> 01:22:55,359
because his first. Name has two Syllables i'm trying to i'm.

1736
01:22:55,399 --> 01:22:59,560
Going The Alliterative, route so. BISMACK biambo not him i.

1737
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 1: Was Right about the franki okina.

1738
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 2: Draft, by twenty? Seventeen yeah? What? Pick? Was he like?

1739
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 1: Eight he was eight you. Were right about that do

1740
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:06,920
you WANT to know who? I? COMPARED him to.

1741
01:23:08,239 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: Oh i don't know it's probably not ANY more. Ridiculous

1742
01:23:10,039 --> 01:23:12,720
Than i thought emmanuel moudier was going to be incredible.

1743
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:16,399
Speaker 1: Better shooting and Better Passing. VERSION of avery bradley.

1744
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 2: I mean most most are.

1745
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 1: Better passing, version maybe.

1746
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 2: But yeah didn't turn out. The shooting part didn't. Didn't

1747
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,600
help you there, so in my brain just, For a,

1748
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,840
little window i'm going, like through the alphabet which is,

1749
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:34,680
always fraught for us just trying to think of alliterative

1750
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:35,279
guys like What?

1751
01:23:35,399 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: Comes after, l, u.

1752
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:46,600
Speaker 2: Probably not oh. There's not, an alliterative oh guy probably

1753
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:53,399
not a. Que, YOU'D remember that. Yeah i don't know i'll,

1754
01:23:53,399 --> 01:23:55,880
take the last. Clue the final.

1755
01:23:55,560 --> 01:24:02,359
Speaker 1: Clue My, Nickname Is. Swiss bank swiss bank if, you

1756
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:04,119
all right now if, you don't get this you are

1757
01:24:04,159 --> 01:24:05,319
probably gonna. Hate, Yourself As.

1758
01:24:05,399 --> 01:24:11,119
Speaker 2: Much okay swiss bank that's have you? Heard? That nickname

1759
01:24:11,159 --> 01:24:12,119
before yes?

1760
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 1: What?

1761
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 2: Some of you. Yes and it's alliterative well.

1762
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 1: His name not? The not the.

1763
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,039
Speaker 2: Nickname yeah yeah, yeah well it's like So is? This?

1764
01:24:23,079 --> 01:24:25,720
A swiss PERSON why why can't I think? Of? Any swiss,

1765
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:35,600
players hmmm twenty. Fourteen, LOTS of Rebounds yeah i hate bill's,

1766
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:39,359
Really got my number like. IT'S pretty clear now i

1767
01:24:39,399 --> 01:24:41,399
don't know what if he's LIKE picking people that i

1768
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,720
just like, have mental blocks for Or is it like

1769
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:48,159
i'm being beaten by knowing the? Clue is. From, HIM

1770
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:50,880
let's see. Yeah i don't know you're gonna have, to

1771
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,359
edit around me just like. Sitting, HERE thinking quietly.

1772
01:24:54,399 --> 01:24:56,239
Speaker 1: Well i can try you, want some bonus clues you

1773
01:24:56,279 --> 01:24:58,239
just want me to tell you who? It who it is.

1774
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 2: I'll take a bonus i'll. Take a bonus clue.

1775
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 1: When he entered when this. Player entered the league he

1776
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,359
on the team that he played like drafted him And

1777
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:12,039
he played for he was Behind In the Rotation dwight Howard.

1778
01:25:12,119 --> 01:25:19,159
And donatis maty, unis he was also if you, want

1779
01:25:19,199 --> 01:25:22,319
To Be technical behind francisco. Garcia as well.

1780
01:25:23,079 --> 01:25:27,319
Speaker 2: Well was he playing. Behind forwards and centers so he's

1781
01:25:27,359 --> 01:25:33,079
all The. ROCKETS man many unis I feel like many

1782
01:25:33,159 --> 01:25:34,960
unis has come up like three times, in guests a

1783
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,159
player and not because he's ever. Been Guest the player

1784
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,199
terrence JOHNSON was the guy i was trying to. Think

1785
01:25:39,239 --> 01:25:42,000
of last time we're thinking of guys that got in

1786
01:25:42,039 --> 01:25:44,079
trouble or something or like had a. BAD off court

1787
01:25:44,239 --> 01:25:46,760
thing i think. That's Who.

1788
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: That Was, Terrence, jones terrence.

1789
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,319
Speaker 2: Jones yeah. THAT'S that you're right I Can't. EVEN remember

1790
01:25:51,399 --> 01:25:57,840
terrence jones i. REALLY good, rebounder behind i Mean it's

1791
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:03,119
like omar ashik Is not Literative or FRENCH or swiss

1792
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,479
or i just name a bunch of, players and then

1793
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:13,720
say but they're not. Any, OF the clues. Yeah i.

1794
01:26:14,039 --> 01:26:16,720
Don't know i'm SURE i'm sure it's i should have.

1795
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:18,239
Guessed it by now he.

1796
01:26:18,359 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 1: Was traded in A fourteen deal in february Twenty Twenty.

1797
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,199
To The Atlanta, hawks.

1798
01:26:26,079 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 2: Oh jesus christ. So, i've Never Heard yeah. It's clincipella Swiss.

1799
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,399
Bank yeah He's swiss? Did? The french that? Yeah The

1800
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,359
high school the paris? Thing, throws you off. Yeah throws

1801
01:26:37,399 --> 01:26:41,880
me off that. They, really GOT me yeah now. I,

1802
01:26:42,199 --> 01:26:46,239
EVEN even knowing. YEAH i should have i should have

1803
01:26:46,319 --> 01:26:49,680
got it on the alliterative. And, THE rebounding thing look

1804
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:50,279
i don't, want.

1805
01:26:50,199 --> 01:26:53,159
Speaker 1: To sound hyperbolic but you've brought shame upon yourself. And

1806
01:26:53,199 --> 01:26:54,439
your entire family.

1807
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,359
Speaker 2: Feels. A, little like that okay LET'S see. What do

1808
01:26:58,399 --> 01:27:03,479
I have LET'S each. I think I used i think

1809
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:07,319
i Gotta. Go, to the, MIKE well oh NO i.

1810
01:27:07,319 --> 01:27:11,600
Got a, Bjp, one all right dan you.

1811
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 1: Also have after after the one he gave you one.

1812
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:18,279
Speaker 2: Clue you have three it, fills up one, line so.

1813
01:27:18,359 --> 01:27:23,880
They're short all right some of these. Clues may sound,

1814
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,680
familiar clue number one he has one of the worst.

1815
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:28,039
Contracts in, the league.

1816
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:36,319
Speaker 1: All right who Is He? Complained, about paul GEORGE correct that's.

1817
01:27:36,319 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 2: Why I went that so i didn't look at, who

1818
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,880
THE player Was And i guess paul george for the worst.

1819
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,720
Contract in. The league good job clue number two was

1820
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,119
he is a terrible, at his side hustle and and

1821
01:27:47,159 --> 01:27:49,119
Then You said not paul george. On the last, one

1822
01:27:49,239 --> 01:27:51,039
clue number three he plays in one of the worst.

1823
01:27:51,039 --> 01:27:55,399
Cities in the league. JUST Shots, Being, fired O god well.

1824
01:27:55,359 --> 01:27:57,279
Speaker 1: B jp, is a celtics fan so we'll. Give him,

1825
01:27:57,279 --> 01:27:58,600
a pastor it's difficult.

1826
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 2: Tough times, TO times right now.

1827
01:28:01,199 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 1: I have one. From mike, for you all right you.

1828
01:28:06,039 --> 01:28:11,039
Got thirteen clues. HERE clue number one i was selected

1829
01:28:11,039 --> 01:28:13,319
in the top ten. In nineteen ninety eight you, got

1830
01:28:13,319 --> 01:28:14,560
a year here. That's big.

1831
01:28:16,079 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 2: Ninety Eight. We, ALREADY antoine jamison no i don't think, that's,

1832
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:30,960
The Right. Year, exactly, vince carter. Okay sorry go.

1833
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 1: AHEAD clue number two i played in all fifty games

1834
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in my, lockout shortened rookie year only. Starting, ONE of.

1835
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:40,600
Speaker 2: Them okay i forgot that, was the lockout here so

1836
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that's definitely not what.

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01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 1: Also happened That year what's that nicks? Went? To the finals.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm top, ten in ninety eight, played in all. Fifty,

1839
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only started one okay? What's the, NEXT clue clue.

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Speaker 1: Three i started five out of fifty games in year

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two with the, team that draft me but my scoring

1842
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totals remained exactly the same ten points per. GAME in

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01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:06,079
both seasons i did raise my three point percentage, to

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01:29:06,119 --> 01:29:08,720
TWENTY two percent though i was Traded Mid season to

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01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:12,520
golden state As Part of. The tony kukoach, TRADE oh

1846
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:14,039
my god I Forgot.

1847
01:29:14,079 --> 01:29:17,520
Speaker 2: They had tony okay So get to the warriors as

1848
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:22,319
a third year player coming, off ten a game top ten, Pick, in,

1849
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:26,239
ninety eight yes sir So he's on the, warriors in

1850
01:29:26,239 --> 01:29:32,840
two thousand top ten. Pick in, ninety eight oh man

1851
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:36,079
the three point. SHOOTING thing IS.

1852
01:29:36,039 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 1: Weird i think i forgot how many teams. This player

1853
01:29:39,239 --> 01:29:42,399
played for. There's, your, ponies clu.

1854
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 2: Yeah man they've cycled that's A rough stretch of. Warriors

1855
01:29:48,319 --> 01:29:53,279
history right there there's a lot of. Different, ninety, eight though,

1856
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:57,039
uh okay next clue.

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01:29:57,039 --> 01:29:59,520
Speaker 1: Please clue number four and if one of us was

1858
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:00,720
going to get, it on this clue.

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01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 2: It.

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Speaker 1: WOULD be you okay i was in the. Two, thousand

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01:30:04,199 --> 01:30:06,000
dunk contest.

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01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:11,039
Speaker 2: Oh, two thousand dunk, contests top ten pick Ends up

1863
01:30:11,079 --> 01:30:15,319
on the. Warriors, around, TWO thousand THAT yeah i should. I,

1864
01:30:15,319 --> 01:30:21,319
should get this well this presumes that He was on

1865
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:25,399
the warriors in two thousand and. IS in that dunk

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01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:27,159
i don't Think there was a warrior in because that

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01:30:27,239 --> 01:30:29,239
the TWO thousand is the I Think is. THE vince

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01:30:29,279 --> 01:30:35,159
CARTER contest i think, i.

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01:30:35,199 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 1: Believe.

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01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 2: You're correct, sir yeah uh so let's see did They Ever.

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Speaker 1: Have pick fred.

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01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:51,760
Speaker 2: Jones i'll Just Start, Naming Guys, fred jones. Desmond mason

1873
01:30:52,319 --> 01:30:55,000
uh correct none of Those. Guys WERE ever warriors so

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01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,479
I don't know. Why i'm saying that i'm.

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Speaker 1: Not quitting post either if if you want to get out, In.

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01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 2: Front, of, that bob, surah No oh man that's, These,

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01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,560
ARE good clues. Okay i don't Know in.

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01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,359
Speaker 1: The back clue five in the back half of the

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two Thousand, SEASON with the warriors i averaged twenty. Two

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Points per, Game.

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01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 2: Larry hughes correct okay let's run he.

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Speaker 1: Had so many clues let's run through. A. COUPLE of

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them six i spent two Additional, seasons in the bay with.

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01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:28,319
Diminishing returns. EACH year clue seven i bottomed out for

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01:31:28,399 --> 01:31:30,640
a Year or two in washington before exploding for twenty

1886
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,399
two points a night again in a contract year and

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01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:35,960
four to, Two thousand. And five clue eight that Offensive

1888
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:37,840
explosion convinced the cavs to sign me, to a five

1889
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year seventy million dollars, deal IN the offseason and. I was.

1890
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Ellipsis fine clue nine they Then traded me to chicago

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01:31:45,079 --> 01:31:46,600
in two Thousand And eight For Ben. Wallace and joe

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01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:50,399
smith Traded With me Where Drew Gooden and. Shannon brown clue,

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01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:52,119
ten the next, YEAR at the deadline i Was traded

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To The knicks For Tim Thomas and. Jerome james clue,

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ELEVEN the next deadline i Was traded to the kings

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and The t. Mac deal clue, twelve by the WAY

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the last Season i played in cleveland WAS the final

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01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:04,000
time i shot over forty. Percent from the field that

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01:32:04,079 --> 01:32:05,800
was in two thousand and six, Two thousand. AND seven

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clue thirteen i, retired in twenty eleven twenty twelve after

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01:32:09,399 --> 01:32:12,000
a Nine game STINT with orlando where i shot twenty three.

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PERCENT from the floor i.

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Speaker 2: Did not remember he was a top ten pick or

1904
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that he was. In A dunk contest that's.

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01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna get. IT on the, Dunk

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01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:22,560
i was like grant's gonna have the knowledge? WHO was.

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01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 2: In there I don't yeah that i, have like no

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01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:26,840
memory so he must have been in that was just

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01:32:27,039 --> 01:32:29,119
did he just get eliminated in the first? ROUND or,

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01:32:29,159 --> 01:32:31,439
SOMETHING like. I don't i don't i don't. Remember That,

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at all all right.

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Speaker 1: Let's Go To who is? Bill, walton talking about okay

1913
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you ready? For Some Of these who's? Bill walton talking

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01:32:39,199 --> 01:32:43,239
About He's, the Anti KWAMITI. Brown but steven a blank

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01:32:43,279 --> 01:32:48,159
has NEVER played? A meaningful nba game is He talking About,

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01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:53,199
Ron Our Test, Iron Nubi pau GASOL Maurice. Evans or

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01:32:53,279 --> 01:32:54,600
dj mabenga.

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Speaker 2: What is the stephen? A part of. This i don't know.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of SAYING it looks like i just Always Like.

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Speaker 2: Talking, To steven A yea so.

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Speaker 1: It's i'm just reading it BASED off the punctuation. I

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01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,960
should read It He's, the Anti Kwame brown but stephen

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a he's never played a meaningful game IN.

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01:33:09,319 --> 01:33:12,159
Speaker 2: The, in the nba okay now try It. LIKE you're

1925
01:33:12,239 --> 01:33:19,399
sad brown i WOULD like To say dj dj benga

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01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,000
because that's a. Fun name to. Say that Is?

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Speaker 1: Incorrect, It, was gasol Okay Grant who is? Bill? Walton

1928
01:33:26,399 --> 01:33:29,319
talking about blank is treating this game LIKE A buffet,

1929
01:33:29,399 --> 01:33:35,439
line A Shaquille, o'neo B eddie Curry, C Sean may D.

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01:33:36,119 --> 01:33:40,439
Robert Trailer. Or, e, raymond felton wow.

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Speaker 2: Real real through, line for those. Guys especially late Career I'm,

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gonna say raymond.

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01:33:46,119 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 1: Felton that Is Incorrect It, was robert?

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Speaker 2: Tractor trailer got?

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Speaker 1: It final One Grant who is? Bill walton talking about

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why have they not yet figured? Out that he is

1937
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,239
he is left handed and will likely continue to be

1938
01:34:00,399 --> 01:34:07,319
for the. Duration Of, This Game, Lamar Odom, Morris Peterson

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01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:14,760
zion Williamson Dylan. Brooks, Or manu. GINOBILI hmm i'm dying.

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01:34:16,319 --> 01:34:19,279
Speaker 2: I was really hoping for like only right handed players to,

1941
01:34:19,359 --> 01:34:21,479
be on the list just just. To, MAKE it better

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01:34:22,159 --> 01:34:24,119
uh I, will say lamar.

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01:34:24,199 --> 01:34:28,720
Speaker 1: ODOM that is correct I Did not know mo. Peterson

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Was left handed.

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01:34:31,079 --> 01:34:34,039
Speaker 2: Lamar odem was very as as, lefties off and are

1946
01:34:34,199 --> 01:34:37,399
he was very left handed and. He stayed that way

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you say.

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Speaker 1: For the entire?

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Speaker 2: Game? The whole time.

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01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 1: Incredible do you have anything else? You want to add

1951
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,840
are you ready to exit gap and take. Us into the.

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01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,279
Speaker 2: Future let's fall. Out of the gap, thanks everybody, for

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01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:50,880
listening for watching, for submitting grate review.

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01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:55,199
Speaker 1: Subscribe the damn It if you want gap so, bad

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01:34:55,239 --> 01:34:57,960
that he started you'll pump in the content. For us

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01:34:58,000 --> 01:34:58,960
promoting you.

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01:34:59,159 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 2: We will know questions asked to any gaps that are

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01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:07,000
submitted by people that get one hundred subscribers. AND something even.

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01:35:07,039 --> 01:35:08,720
Fifties i, don't know uh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Shouts Franknoo KING. Apologies jared allen m