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in all the Nickson Granny's all the news and notes

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coming out of the college football world. Also discussing the

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Holy War. Just how good? Where does this rivalry game

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rank out amongst the best rivalry games in college football?

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I love the fact that Big Newton kickoff is coming

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to Provo so that they get to know this rivalry

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game a little bit better and uh, I think it'll

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be an educational experience for the nation as they get

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to know this game.

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topics with Jared Bledsoe right now on the line.

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Speaker 1: Jared, how thatck are you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I'm doing great, man. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Always a pleasure man. Former BAU wide receiver. What do

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you remember about the rivalry game? What made it so special?

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Growing up and then playing in this game?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it goes way back for me.

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Speaker 4: I have memories of the BYU Utah rival recent time.

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Speaker 3: I was a kid, I.

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Speaker 4: In fact, nineteen eighty five, it was a year, it

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was a snowy day. We got a call from a

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neighbor of ours that had I think they had eight tickets.

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So I called all my little sixth grade buddies and

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had our parents drop us off at the stadium.

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Speaker 3: We ended up sneaking down.

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Speaker 4: We were on the front row as la Haye Louly

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ran a they was like a sixty yard touchdown and

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we ended up all on the camera standing up in

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the in the crowd.

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Speaker 3: So great memory as a kid. I mean, I think

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every time I.

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Speaker 4: Played a game it was BYU versus Utah and everything.

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And so fast forward from there to be at BYU

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in ninety eight. And you know that Lavelle Edwards at

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that time was a roll around of the golf cart coach.

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You know, he had his coordinators that did everything for him,

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and so he'd make his appearances in practice and roll around.

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Will come to the game of the Utah game that week.

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He had us all huddle up around and we had

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a big red tackling Demi And this is a year

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before he retired. He threw that thing on the ground

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and started kicking it to get us all hyped up.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 4: It was probably one of the greatest things I ever

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seen Coach Edwards do. And and then that year we

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went on on to we played it at in Salt

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Lake City at Rice Cycles and we ended up. Let's see,

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they had the best kicker in the nation, one of

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the top kickers in the nation, and we brought him

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down to the very end of the game where he

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had a chance for I think it was like a

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thirty eight yard field goal, just at gimme field goal,

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and he hit the goalpost and.

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Speaker 3: Everyone stormed around the field.

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Speaker 4: And then as much as you know Derek, Derek Stevens

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in our middle linebacker, his dad was in the in

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the stands on the front row and a Utah fan

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was getting in a fight with him, and Derek jumped

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into the stands to join the fight as Derek's dad

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laid out the the Utah fan and gave up bloody nose.

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And yes, great memories. It's such a great rivalry. And

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I feel like I'm really excited that we're going to

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have the big the group out there on the Saturday morning, UH,

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to really really highlight what this rivalry is.

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Speaker 1: Great stories.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look everybody, I think has a story or

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two about this rivalry game as a fan, as a

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as a media member, as a football player, and so

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because of all those anecdotes, because of all those unique experiences,

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you know, we love this rivalry game. And what's crazy

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is how competitive it's been over the years, right, It

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really has been extremely competitive.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit lopsided in the modern era.

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Speaker 2: I think Kyle Winningham's twelve and two all time against

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the Cougar Sins taking over in two thousand and five,

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but he's on a two game losing streak right now.

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Speaker 1: It's on a two game yeah, right now.

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Speaker 5: You know, last year, as we start to renew the

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rivalry and you get a lot of guys like I

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had Qwan come come over to the shop last year,

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and I just started feeding these guys what this rivalry

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really is, to try to get them to understand how

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big it is.

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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what. You know, if you talked

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to Qan today about it, you.

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Speaker 4: Know that that one of the biggest rivalry games ever

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played in you know. And and that's the same with

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Trey Alexander and and I mean these guys just dancing

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around the inZone last year after the game, and but

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really felt the energy of the rivalry and it's going

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to be super excited.

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Speaker 3: It's great to have two ranked teams.

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Speaker 4: I wanted us to be undefeated and I wanted Utah

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to be undefeated to make it even a bigger game.

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Speaker 3: But I'm excited for the game.

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Speaker 4: I think that we we got to minimize some of

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the mistakes that we made against Arizona. We got to

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really lock things down a little bit. And I think

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we'll have some of our some of our go to

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guys back with Jack Kelly and and uh, you know,

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I haven't heard on Raider Demuney.

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Speaker 3: I'm hoping Raiders raiders back.

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Speaker 4: When he took that hard hit to the ribs, you

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know that that looked painful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I gotta correct myself. I was doing my

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Mathew Gricley. Kyle Whittingham's eleven and five all time against

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the bau Cougars since two thousand and five as the

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head coach.

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Speaker 3: But do you think he came back to I.

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Speaker 2: Do I think his legacy? My theory is this, My

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thesis is this. I guess I should pose the question first,

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is Kyle Whittingham's legacy as the greatest coach in Utah

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football history, based more so off of his dominance versus

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BYU okay or his double digit win seasons and shared

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conference championships in the Pac twelve and really never truly

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getting over the hump into that elite status, right, like

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you know which one is it? More so based off

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of and I tend to lean more towards the rivalry

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game than what he's done outside of the rivalry game.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts, I think.

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Speaker 4: It depends on who you ask, right and uh and

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and after Saturday, I.

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Speaker 3: Think some people's opinions might change. You know.

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Speaker 4: I think Utah fans going into this game, it's a

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it's a huge one for his legacy, you know, whether

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or not it ends up being that, you know, I

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don't necessarily think so. I think he has been a

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great coach. He's been great for the state of Utah.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: He he's a players coach, just like Colonia is. And

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and I know that that his players love to play

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for him. He's done a lot for the university. And

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you know, let's be real, he's a he's a BYU alumni.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you know, the greatness comes from the fount of

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of b Yu right.

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Speaker 1: The Provo. It does the Provo pipeline.

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Speaker 2: If you will look at all the coaches in the

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NFL in college foot ball, you know they came out

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of BYU.

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Speaker 1: It was a good one.

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Speaker 2: There's a great pipeline coming out of Provo right now, there.

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Speaker 3: Is how do well? And for me, you know, I

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look at this game.

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Speaker 4: You know I never wanted Utah to win it, and

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then all of a sudden, my teammates were coaching at Utah.

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You know, I had I had Klate and a Rod

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and then Jay Hill from Rix was coaching there. So

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everything kind of changed at one point where it's like,

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you know, I wanted Utah to win their games, except

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I want them to always to lose to Beway.

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Speaker 3: You every year.

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Speaker 2: Totally get it. So how do you see this game

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playing out? You know, they're from an objective metrics standpoint,

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what they've been able to produce on the football field

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Speaker 1: They mirror each other to a degree. I mean they

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really do.

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Speaker 2: Sure they mirror each other, and they're more alike than

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they are dissimilar. And they Utah is a slight favorite

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heading into Lavelle Edwards Stadium, So I like that.

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Speaker 1: What do you what do you make of his Well,

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Speaker 4: That that that that we're the underdog at home with

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a with a better ranking and a better record, because

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that's going to drive some fuel into the players and

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the coaches, uh.

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Speaker 3: You know there.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I watched you know, a number of

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plays of the Utah name this past week against Arizona State,

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and you know, I felt like they were they were

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kind of one dimensional, you know, and in their attack.

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Now now they didn't have to do much more because

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they were pretty much rolling over Arizona State.

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Speaker 3: But they are real similar, real similar. And that we've

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got quarterbacks that can run the ball.

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Speaker 4: We've got two offensive lines that are amazing, you know,

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super strong, able to move the pile. That and I

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think that in the end, the team that wins this game,

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it's going to be down to that that the offensive

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and defensive lines and who is able to control that

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line and and that's really going to determine it. I

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do think special team is going to play a big

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role this week. These rivalry games bring out, in my opinion,

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these the special teams extraordinaries. You know, with Keeland last

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year on the kick return man, Parker's just just feels

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like he's just close to breaking the punt.

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Speaker 3: You know, so, I think the Special Team is gonna

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Speaker 4: But man, I'm just excited this is that that week.

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It's probably the only week that I post on my

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Instagram stories every day about the rivalry.

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Speaker 3: You know, just just a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Started out with Max Hall of course, one of his

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with his favorite interviews of all time. And you know,

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so it's gonna be a lot of fun. It's gonna

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be interesting to kind of see who gets out and

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who gets in front. These games are are momentum based games.

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You know, we get whoever has that momentum is at

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the end of the game that last five six minutes

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of the game.

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Speaker 3: The momentum is is typically who wins that game. So

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it's it's going to be interesting to see who can

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hold old more momentum throughout the entire game than the

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other team. And I feel like that'll be the winner.

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Speaker 3: So we're happy to give it.

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Speaker 4: We'd love to hear that you guys are listening to

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Ben and supporting Ben and and yeah, we wonder you

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think we can to support Ben and BYU football and yeah,

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let's go go.

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Speaker 1: Koog's love it man.

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Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate you always joining us. A couple lest

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things before we let you go. What was your reaction

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when you saw James Franklin being fired from Penn State after,

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you know, being a top ten coach in college football

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over the last decade. I mean, like he was in

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the colleg football Playoff in the semi finals last year

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and all of a sudden, he's five hundred through what

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six games or so, and the donor base, the fan base,

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the athletic department is kicking him to the curb and

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paying him almost fifty million while doing it. They they

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are hoping that somehow, who's the who's the most beautiful

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woman right now in.

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Speaker 1: The in the world is it?

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Speaker 2: They're they're dumping their wife of ten years, twelve years,

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hoping that somehow, some way, what like Sidney Sweeney's gonna

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answer their call, answer their text, answer their DMA.

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Speaker 1: Jalos still up there, but you know, jos Man, Hey, hey,

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Jalo's getting old.

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Speaker 2: He's just an like they are hoping like, Hey, I

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hope they answered. I hope Sidney Swinny answers might call,

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you know, hopefully fingers crossed.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, we got a lot to offer here at Penn State.

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We have a lot to offer.

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Speaker 4: So my feeling initially when I heard it, I was

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kind of embarrassed for the program all together, for the

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athletic department. I felt like, I'm not a Penn State fan,

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but I felt let down that they could let basically

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the expectations are excellent or you're out.

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Speaker 3: That's it. That's it.

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Speaker 4: You can't have a bad season, according to the Penn

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State administration. And yeah, that's kind of the real feeling

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that I had. I was just embarrassed by how they

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handled that. You you you're not going to have an

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exceptional season every single year.

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Speaker 3: There's so many factors that play into that. So and

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and in the end, let's say they go.

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Speaker 4: And get the higher that they want, right or they

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get the the dream candidate that they they always thought

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they wanted and the guy comes in and and and

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half the half the players transfer out right and he

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starts over and has a bad season next year? Are

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you going to fire him now? Or are you going

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to give him a chance to have a bad season?

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You know, so they've set a precedence that is it's

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it's gonna be hard to hold every single guy to

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that same standard, or you're going to be driving through

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coaches year after year and uh it, and and the

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grass isn't always greener. I think that he absolutely should

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have given him through the end of this year to

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see if he could turn that thing around. And let's

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look at some of the teams they play, like U C.

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L A Is coming coming out to be a pretty

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darn good team now, right.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I I don't think that it was

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the right move.

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Speaker 4: I think that that the administration is allowing the donors

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to do and have too much of a say in

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the program itself. And uh to say that I I

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hope it backfire as I don't because I don't hope

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that for the players, But sometimes I hope it for

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the administration because I don't think that they're looking at

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it with the in the right perspective.

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Speaker 2: What it shows me it's kind of the disconnect. Even

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like if I take a study, an individual study the

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PAC twelve for instance, and what led the PAC twelve

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to die a slow and painful death.

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Speaker 1: The administrators, the.

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Speaker 2: Decision makers were so disconnected from the reality of the

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college football situation, the game of the game, right, They

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had no idea what was changing, They had no idea

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what was going on. And do that humorous their pompous nature,

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their entitlement, they fell prey to the pride cycle, right

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and overvaluating themselves, overvalued themselves, etcetera. Like what's been happening

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over the last five years with the transfer portal and

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with the free market, capitalistic college football landscape that we're

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living in now, is that you're becoming more like an

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NFL league, which means the Kansas City Chiefs can beat

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a team that I mean, what have they got to

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five hundred now? Kansas City is right now at five hundred. Yeah, right,

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Like you could be a five hundred team and still

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make it into the playoffs because you're the best team

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at the end of the year, but you're a three four,

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five loss team, but you're the best team in the playoffs, right,

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Because it's about trending in.

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Speaker 1: The right doors. At the end of the year, you're

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gonna see more parody.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna see two and three loss teams eventually getting

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into the college football playoff. That's what you're gonna see.

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And there's way more parody. There's a reason why Nick

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Saban's out of the business now. He saw the riding

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on the wall. He knew he could not happen a

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monopoly anymore. He knew it well.

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Speaker 4: And the amount of money that's coming in from outside

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sources that might not have been a fill with athletics

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prior to nil and prior to these opportunities to make

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money within the NCAA football industry.

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Speaker 3: There's now there's so many more hands involved in each team.

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Speaker 4: There's so much more money, millions and millions of dollars

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that's coming in with expectations placed on that like these

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guys aren't putting that money in without expectations, and so

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I think there's just too much going on around some

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of these teams where there's too many, too many hands donating,

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too many hands that are saying, my money's here, and

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I expect this out of my money. And if I'm

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not getting this return or I'm not getting X, Y

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and Z, then something has to change. And then the

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pressure that they put on the administration's got to be

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a mess.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the incompetence is seeing new levels in my opinion,

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in this modern era from a leadership standpoint, you're seeing

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it everywhere. Jared, we got to run, but it's always

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Speaker 3: Thanks man, appreciate you guys.

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