WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.839 AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:07.240 on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:09.279 That one, yeah, oh, you got to do it yourself. 5 00:00:09.359 --> 00:00:12.119 I sure, sorry, but we don't have union people here 6 00:00:12.119 --> 00:00:12.839 to turn the mics on. 7 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:13.039 Four. 8 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:15.839 Is this thing on? I can't even hear. I don't know. 9 00:00:15.960 --> 00:00:18.079 Turn it up on the little the follow the court. No, 10 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:19.960 not that one down there. I got it. I got it. 11 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:22.359 There's a chord. Can you hear it now yet? How 12 00:00:22.399 --> 00:00:22.879 about now? 13 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:23.559 No? 14 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:24.679 No, no, we'll. 15 00:00:24.519 --> 00:00:26.079 Figure it out during the next commercial break. 16 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:29.440 Christina Pascucci is here for sanon today. 17 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:31.359 I feel like it's the first day of school. I'm 18 00:00:31.399 --> 00:00:32.799 so excited to be in your. 19 00:00:32.719 --> 00:00:36.000 Midst You completely overdressed for one thing, I know, but 20 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:36.640 I made up for. 21 00:00:36.679 --> 00:00:38.880 It because I have slippers on on the bottom, professional 22 00:00:38.920 --> 00:00:39.880 on top, slippers on the. 23 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:41.719 Bottom because it is going to get cold in here. 24 00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:43.119 And I have my blanket too. 25 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:46.159 That's very smart. Those are very wise choices for you. 26 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:48.600 There were some breaking news to tell you about. Just 27 00:00:48.640 --> 00:00:51.759 before the show started. Amy mentioned that Ethel Kennedy has 28 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:56.119 died at the age of ninety six. This is rfk's widow, 29 00:00:57.240 --> 00:01:00.320 Kennedy family matriarch, had suffered a stroke in her sleep 30 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:02.640 last week. They just announced that. I think it was 31 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:05.640 yesterday that they announced that part of it. They said 32 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:09.239 that she died this morning in a hospital in Massachusetts, 33 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:11.120 obviously surrounded by family. 34 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:13.879 She is a well known human rights advocate, and she 35 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:15.840 had a long life, ninety six years old. 36 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:19.480 Ninety six is extra innings and she that seems to 37 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:23.760 be pretty common outside of Kennedy's who have their lives 38 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:27.280 taken from them. I mean, Kennedys tend to live pretty long. 39 00:01:28.239 --> 00:01:30.840 Consumer prices up two point four percent from a year 40 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:33.640 earlier in September, according to new numbers that came out 41 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:36.400 of the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Higher than expected actually, 42 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:39.760 which was two point four but it has gone down 43 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:42.879 a little bit. Diddy is back in court this afternoon. 44 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:45.519 The expectation he's going to demand that he's released on 45 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:46.879 bail when he goes to court today. 46 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:48.359 I bet he will. 47 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:51.200 The audacity of asking for that now that I mean, 48 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:53.799 now that he's been indicted, and now that we've seen 49 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:56.760 one hundred and twenty more lawsuits that will be filed 50 00:01:56.760 --> 00:01:59.680 against him, And I don't know, if you heard Tony Busby, 51 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:01.879 this is the tourney out of Houston, who's been taken 52 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:05.840 all these calls. He said that he fielded three thousand 53 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:09.400 calls originally and then came up with one hundred and 54 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:13.919 twenty lawsuits and then announced a ditty hotline. I mean, 55 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:16.960 this is where we are nowadays, but that they will 56 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:20.680 also have probably hundreds more come out of the calls 57 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:21.639 that he's received. 58 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:24.960 As them no doubt, and as egregious as it already is, 59 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:27.159 I think we've barely skimmed the surface of what we're 60 00:02:27.159 --> 00:02:29.919 going to find out, including some of the other big 61 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.680 names that may have been involved, and it will be 62 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:34.080 very interesting to see. 63 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:35.400 This thing is just cracking open. 64 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:38.039 Not to mention the fact that while the other big 65 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:42.280 names not is it big names that were potentially victimized? 66 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:44.879 Was it big names that are just witnesses or is 67 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:50.400 it big names that were also allowing this to happen 68 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:54.039 and having some hand in creating these situations for these people? 69 00:02:54.199 --> 00:02:55.560 All of the above. 70 00:02:56.120 --> 00:02:58.879 Yeah, And I don't even think, I mean, we're so 71 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:03.759 desensitized today because we see it all, it seems and 72 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:07.520 with this, I don't know, it sounds like just what 73 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:08.719 horror films are made of. 74 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:10.159 And I saw this story. 75 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:13.719 Denzel Washington ran out yelling it diddy from a party 76 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:16.759 years ago. And so even people who didn't partake, I 77 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:19.680 think knew something was going on. And what's the implications 78 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:22.319 for those people. I mean, all of it is very 79 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:23.680 interesting to consider. 80 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:27.319 The big news, of course, is Hurricane Milton has made 81 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:29.759 its way across the state of Florida. It's now out 82 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:33.080 off of Cape Canaveral. Some of the incredible images that 83 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:36.479 we have seen, for example, the roof being ripped off 84 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:39.639 the Tampa Bay Rays Stadium. I didn't realize that that 85 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:44.479 thing was all cloth. Now it's all gone. Governor Rohn 86 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:47.599 de Santis is about to give a response or an update, 87 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:49.759 an update, I should say, on the hurricane response. So 88 00:03:50.159 --> 00:03:52.879 we'll keep an eye on updates like that throughout the morning. 89 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:54.360 But he did say this earlier today. 90 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:59.280 Storm did bring much destruction and damage. Tornadoes ravage parts 91 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:01.639 of the East coast so the state. Flooding occurred on 92 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:05.159 the west and east coast, and strong winds lashed the state, 93 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:10.400 especially in Penelas, Hillsboro, Manatee and Sarasota counties. 94 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:13.439 One of the odd things that happened. Was we warned. 95 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:16.920 Obviously, we everybody was warned about the storm surgeon In 96 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:20.079 some places it was, you know, twelve to fifteen feet high, 97 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:24.759 like they were expecting. But there were portions of Tampa 98 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:27.560 Bay specifically where they saw what they referred to as 99 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:29.040 a negative storm Sirch. 100 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:31.319 A lot of places where the water count pulled out 101 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:34.040 towards sea, and it was just very eerie because that 102 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:37.199 area is usually inundated with water and they saw the 103 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:43.000 bottom of the seafloor. And I didn't realize tornadoes were 104 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:45.439 such a big part of hurricanes. It doesn't seem like 105 00:04:45.480 --> 00:04:47.680 it's been as significant in the past. 106 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:49.279 As it was during this storm. Or is it just 107 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:50.879 that I didn't hear about it as much. 108 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:54.639 I've seen tornado warnings go up with hurricane warnings and watches, 109 00:04:54.680 --> 00:04:58.560 but I've never seen them materialize in the numbers that 110 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:01.879 we saw yesterday, which was one hundred plus different tornadoes. 111 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:04.720 Perhaps that touch potato warnings. Yeah, and then I think 112 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:05.879 at least twenty hit. 113 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:09.079 Yeah, there were a couple in Fort Myers. Some of 114 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:12.519 the damage. And again, when you think of hurricanes, you 115 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:14.519 think of the wind speed, because that's how we gauge 116 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:17.279 how strong the hurricane is, what category it is. 117 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:17.600 Ye. 118 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:20.040 But it's not even necessarily the winds that cause the 119 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:22.600 most damage. I mean, the most spectacular damage may be 120 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:25.560 in tearing the roof off of a baseball stadium. But 121 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:28.480 it's the flooding, it's the storm surge. It's the power 122 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:30.759 outages that are going to exist for the next several 123 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:31.920 days for some people. 124 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:34.600 And yeah, millions of people without power, including my in 125 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:37.079 laws who were in Orlando and they had a bat 126 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:38.360 They thought they. 127 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:39.040 Were over prepared. 128 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:41.959 They've been through a million hurricanes and they kind of thought, 129 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:44.879 you know, we're good. We have a generator, and then 130 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:47.120 it turns out their power goes out and the generator 131 00:05:47.160 --> 00:05:47.800 doesn't turn on. 132 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:49.120 Yikes. 133 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:50.480 Yeah, not good. 134 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:52.560 So right now they were going to talk to us 135 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:54.759 later today and they said, we've got to figure out 136 00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:57.399 this generator situation. They have no cell service at their house. 137 00:05:57.439 --> 00:05:59.680 They have to drive out to try to get cell service. 138 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:02.800 And another person who I know who lives in Saint Pete, 139 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:06.319 a little bit closer where the storm hit initially, and 140 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:08.959 she said she's been a Florida in her entire life. 141 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:11.360 She's never seen a storm quite like this. 142 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:16.120 One of the things that happens in the aftermath of 143 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:20.720 destruction like this, whether it's man made or nature made, 144 00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:23.839 this is an opportunity for people to step up and 145 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:26.920 find a way to help out. Even if you can't 146 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:30.959 go to places like Florida or Georgia, North Carolina who've 147 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:32.639 been ravaged in the last couple of weeks, you can 148 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:35.519 definitely give to people who are doing it. 149 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:37.800 And we're going to talk to one of those people 150 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:41.040 who's doing that right now, Franklin Graham, he's president of Smardan's. 151 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:44.720 Percy joins us, Franklin, are you here with us with you? 152 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:47.519 Yes, thank you so much for taking the time. I mean, 153 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:49.839 we know there are thousands of people on the ground 154 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:53.600 doing the incredible work responding to not only Milton but 155 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:57.680 also Helene like your organization has been. Can you tell 156 00:06:57.759 --> 00:06:59.639 us what you've been seeing on the ground. 157 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:05.720 Well, with the storm overnight in Florida, Milton, We've got 158 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:10.279 we were working in Tampa and in Perry, Florida. We 159 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:12.879 pulled those teams back up into Georgia into a safe zone. 160 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:17.519 The team to Perry is already back to one in Tampa, 161 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:21.040 should be in in this afternoon and we'll be set 162 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:25.360 up in those locations continuing to help the people from 163 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:29.879 the previous hurricane. Now we have another third team that 164 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:32.120 will be going and we'll wait this afternoon to decide 165 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:35.199 where we assess at. We've already had people on the 166 00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:39.480 ground up around Saint Petersburg. Not as much flooding as 167 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:42.079 we thought of there, but a lot of tree damage 168 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:47.079 in these retirement centers and retirement villages, so a lot 169 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:49.079 of people out they're gonna need help. These are people 170 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:51.480 who are fixed income, people don't have a lot of money, 171 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:56.720 but trees have damaged their homes. So we're going to 172 00:07:56.759 --> 00:08:00.279 cut those trees up and help them repair their to 173 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:03.040 keep them from leaking. Then down put the Gordas to 174 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:07.959 the south and the Fort Myers area a lot more flooding. 175 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:10.360 I think we had a quite a bit more. Uh 176 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:13.959 maybe the tide search there was a much higher. So 177 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:19.519 we're looking at going in there. Uh probably maybe late 178 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:22.319 this afternoon and maybe in the morning. But you have 179 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:24.639 to let the roads clear, you have to let uh, 180 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:29.120 you know, the local authorities get the power lines off 181 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:30.879 the roads and the trees off the roads and those 182 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:33.480 sort of sort of things. So things are moving a 183 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:37.679 little bit slow right now, but by this afternoon it'd 184 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:42.120 be a lot better. And then of course, uh, Hurricane Helene. 185 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:44.679 We just uh, we're still dealing with that here in 186 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:46.960 the Carolinas, where you have hundreds of people that are 187 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:47.600 still missing. 188 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:48.240 Uh. 189 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:52.360 This was a storm that uh, you know, we talk 190 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:55.360 about a thousand year event. I don't know, but we've 191 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:58.759 never seen anything like it. Little tiny streams became raging rivers, 192 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:04.200 and it just the slides, the infrastructured damage, power lines 193 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:08.279 down the roads, not not just a section rope, but 194 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:12.679 some cases miles of road are gone, and the bridges 195 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:16.320 of the mud slides. So their whole sections of the 196 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:18.720 of the western part of the state that are that 197 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:22.440 are just cut off. People can't can't go left, they 198 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:24.799 can't go right, and they're just stuck in it. Now 199 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:29.279 they can walk out, and we've talked to people as 200 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:31.919 take you know, ten hours to walk out, so that 201 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:34.799 for an elderly person that that's just not possible. So 202 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:36.639 you've got to fly in. So we've we've been we've 203 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:40.240 been using helicopters. We will by the end of today, 204 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:42.120 we'll have over one hundred and sixty flights that we 205 00:09:42.159 --> 00:09:46.399 have made. We have the US military helping US National Guards, 206 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:53.360 helping US businesses, people like Joe Gibbs Racing U his 207 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:55.960 corporate helicopter. You know, he's he's loaned that in his 208 00:09:56.080 --> 00:10:00.720 pilots to help Rick Hendrick, same thing, Rick Hendrick Racing. Uh, 209 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:03.360 They've they've loaned their helicopters. So we're just grateful for 210 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:06.559 the businesses that have come beside us, the military that 211 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:11.200 come beside us. We're holding out generators fuel. Elon Musk 212 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:16.399 has provided starlinks. We've got those set up, and but 213 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:18.799 the things with the starlinks, we have to send a technician. 214 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:22.200 You just you know, it's a little overwhelming to hand 215 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:24.360 somebody something like that. They don't know quite what to do, 216 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:26.799 so you have to have an it person help them 217 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:28.840 just plug it in and get it going. And so 218 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:31.279 we send those guys out too in the helicopters. But 219 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:33.639 it's it's been it's been tough. It's but we're just 220 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:37.279 thankful for the people that have that have helped and 221 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:40.879 these volunteers, and it's just so many neighbors are helping 222 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:43.399 neighbors and it just puts a lot of faith back 223 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:44.960 in the American people. 224 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:48.960 That's true, and from what I understand, you guys actually 225 00:10:49.279 --> 00:10:52.879 have volunteers who lost their own homes and helen. 226 00:10:53.039 --> 00:10:57.799 Yes, yes we do, and we've got you know, it's 227 00:10:57.919 --> 00:11:01.240 just it's just the spirit of of the people that 228 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:06.799 just get you excited. Christ. They're just people that are 229 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:11.039 willing to come and work at their own expense volunteer, 230 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:15.159 and yet they also have problems and they've had loss. 231 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:19.000 But we're just excited to be able to respond. We 232 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:21.519 always want to respond in Jesus' name, you say, I 233 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:24.159 want people to know that God loves them. Sometimes people 234 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:26.799 come to the storm like this they think, well, you know, 235 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:30.279 maybe God's mad at me. No, God loves us. This 236 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:34.240 wasn't his plan when when sin came into the world. 237 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:36.840 We live in a fallen world. And and I want 238 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:39.360 people to know that God loves us. He cares for us, 239 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:41.559 and he sent his son from heaven to this earth 240 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:43.960 to take our sins. And he died and shed his 241 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:46.399 blood for our sins. And he was buried and God 242 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:48.600 raised him to life. And if we put a faith 243 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:50.840 in trust in him, God will forgive us of our sins. 244 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:53.360 And this is this is a message we want everyone 245 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:56.559 to know. And but we help we help everyone regardless. 246 00:11:57.159 --> 00:11:59.879 And uh, but when we finish helping them and cleaning 247 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:02.600 up their their yard or cutting the trees off, what 248 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:04.639 we do is we all the volunteers will get a 249 00:12:04.639 --> 00:12:07.480 big circle and we present them with a Bible and 250 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:09.799 all the volunteers will sign the Bible and give it 251 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:14.600 to them. And every homeowner is so appreciative because they 252 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:16.759 they've got something that's a that they will keep in 253 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:19.799 their family. All the names of those volunteers that came 254 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:22.320 to help them. Uh, you know, we had one lady 255 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:25.120 that they Christian I gave one of my chaplains gave 256 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:27.720 her two gallons of water. Okay, just two gallons of water. 257 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:34.200 She cried. She cried over two gallons of water. And 258 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:39.159 uh that's how desperate some people are. Uh. And so 259 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:42.080 the need is great, and knowing Florida, the need is 260 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:44.000 going to be great, and we're going to be in Florida. 261 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:46.080 We're going to be down there for some time, just 262 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:49.360 like we are here. But we we thank God that 263 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:53.120 we're in a position to help. He's given a lot 264 00:12:53.159 --> 00:12:55.799 of people to help us, and we praise him and 265 00:12:55.799 --> 00:12:58.519 thank him for that. He's given us good weather this week. 266 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:02.159 Uh so the ground is drying out. The rivers are 267 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:06.000 going down here in North Carolina. We're thankful for that, 268 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:09.679 and so it's going to help us just be able 269 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:11.320 to get out there and work and do a better job. 270 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:15.120 I choose this word in purposefully. But you guys at 271 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:18.600 Samaritan's Person International Relief having a MAC just an update 272 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:20.399 quickly from Governor Ronda Santis. 273 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:21.480 He spoke a few minutes ago. 274 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:23.799 My sense is that a lot of the people did 275 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:27.879 leave who were in the evacuation zones. I know we 276 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:31.679 had over eighty thousand people staying in shelters. You had 277 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:35.759 massive heavy traffic on the interstates over the last several 278 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:38.679 days leading up to the storm because I think people 279 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:41.360 were deciding, you know, to just get out of dodge. 280 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:47.080 We also can say that the storm did not produce 281 00:13:47.720 --> 00:13:51.679 the worst case scenario in terms of storm surge. If 282 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:54.519 you remember about twenty four hours ago, maybe thirty six 283 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:59.320 hours ago, the fear was a Category four strong four 284 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:03.919 going into Tampa Bay, producing about fifteen feet a storm surge. 285 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:07.399 That's an area with Pinellas County peninsula and then the 286 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:11.519 surrounding areas in Hillsboro County that is very low lying, 287 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:16.399 very susceptible to storm surge that did not end up happening. 288 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:20.039 All of that good news, Still some deaths to report. 289 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:22.279 Looks like most of the deaths are going to be 290 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:26.200 from tornadoes actually and the damage that results in. So again, 291 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:29.320 updates will come out of Florida throughout the show today 292 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:33.120 and we'll definitely bring those to you. We mentioned this 293 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:36.480 week the story of CBS News and whatever the world 294 00:14:36.519 --> 00:14:41.120 is going on at CBS News last week, Tony, You're 295 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:43.919 gonna have to correct me to thank you, right, that's 296 00:14:44.039 --> 00:14:47.600 you said that earlier Tony Dkopple, one of the anchors 297 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:50.679 of the CBS Morning Show, was interviewing I mean, he 298 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:56.879 was one of three that were interviewing ton of I 299 00:14:56.919 --> 00:15:03.000 believe about a book that came out and just asked him, pointed, 300 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:06.480 aggressive but civil questions. 301 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:08.559 Why not detail anything of the first and the second 302 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:11.279 into five of the cafe bombings, the bus bombings and 303 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:14.320 the little kids blown to bits? And is it because 304 00:15:14.879 --> 00:15:18.639 you just don't believe that Israel in any condition has 305 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:19.519 a right to exist. 306 00:15:21.320 --> 00:15:23.279 Well, I would say the perspective that you just outlined, 307 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:26.919 there is no shortage of that perspective in American media. 308 00:15:27.720 --> 00:15:29.039 That's the first thing I would say. 309 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:31.519 Again, calm, civil, right, normal. 310 00:15:32.039 --> 00:15:35.320 He asked questions as journalists should to present both sides 311 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:39.360 because the book that this author wrote is pro Palestinian 312 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:42.240 and doesn't really lay out both sides of a very complex, 313 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:46.639 centuries old conflict, and so he was asking him, you 314 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:48.039 know what a journalist should well. 315 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:53.399 The heads of CBS News, Wenny McMahon Adrian Roark, decided 316 00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:56.639 to chastise him for the way he handled the questioning. 317 00:15:57.159 --> 00:15:58.799 They made him sit down with. 318 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:04.919 The Race and Culture unit at CBS News and the 319 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:10.600 standards team, which advises on context, tone and intention of programming, 320 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:16.200 and the discussion apparently focused on his tenor and his 321 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:22.559 body language during the exchange, which was again civil. You 322 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:24.279 don't have to agree with either one of these guys, 323 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:27.440 but it was a civil, normal discussion between two smart 324 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:30.080 people hashing out their difference. 325 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:31.840 Is about a very important issue. 326 00:16:31.919 --> 00:16:34.159 The Free Press has done some excellent reporting on this, 327 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:35.960 if you want to go, check them out on Instagram 328 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:39.320 or social media, and they had some audio recordings from 329 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:43.919 Elite in a meeting between the people you were just 330 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:48.159 talking about. And now apparently the Free Press is reporting 331 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:52.159 that CBS execs are saying the question should be asked 332 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:55.519 whether we should discuss whether Israel even has a right 333 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:59.120 to exist, which you wouldn't say that. 334 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:00.559 About any other country. 335 00:17:01.480 --> 00:17:04.000 And so there's someone else who's been doing some excellent 336 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:07.039 reporting around this, who's a friend of mine, who are 337 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:08.039 going to bring on right now. 338 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:09.799 His name is Moshwa Nunu. 339 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:12.839 He is the founder and editor of mo News, and 340 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:16.559 he actually helped launch CBS Morning News, which is at 341 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:17.839 the center of this debacle. 342 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:19.799 And Mosch, we'd love to welcome you to the show. 343 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:22.759 It's great to be with you, guys. Thanks for having me. 344 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:25.640 All Right, so you saw what's happened, you saw the 345 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:28.400 fallout from all of this. Does this blow your mind 346 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:30.240 like it does mine? 347 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:34.319 Well, let's be candidate here. I spent a decade at 348 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:36.240 that place, so it does not. I wouldn't say it 349 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:40.599 blows my mind. I think we started to see the 350 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:41.480 origins of this. 351 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:43.359 I would say around. 352 00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:46.920 Twenty fifteen twenty sixteen, things start to shift. I think Christina, 353 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:49.599 you can speak to this as well. Where you know 354 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:52.759 the news not so long ago, newsrooms are places for 355 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:57.200 robust conversations, sometimes not even polite conversations. 356 00:17:57.200 --> 00:17:58.000 When I talked about. 357 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:01.720 Internally between producers reporters, you're pashing out complicated subjects. What 358 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:03.240 do you think the story is? What do you think 359 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:06.279 the story is? And suddenly we start to see this 360 00:18:06.839 --> 00:18:09.559 and it's not altogether different from if you had on 361 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:13.240 professors or university administrators. They start to see sort of 362 00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:16.519 gen z coming into the universities in twenty twelve, twenty thirteen. 363 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:19.519 Now they come into the workforce in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, 364 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:22.640 and now we're almost a decade in. And now suddenly 365 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:25.960 you start to get to the point where not so 366 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:28.039 long ago, if you're in a newsroom and you rejected 367 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:31.839 an idea about you know something you pitched I want 368 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:34.400 to do a story an X and the bosses didn't 369 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:35.640 like it, you go back and say, you know what, 370 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:37.279 I got to make that story better. Let's figure out 371 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:39.720 way make it more interesting. And I already saw and 372 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:42.920 I admittedly left CBS in twenty nineteen, Starting around twenty 373 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:47.039 seventeen twenty eighteen, if you've got a story rejected, and 374 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:50.079 maybe you had a certain agenda in mind, you went 375 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:52.599 to HR and said, I don't think management. I think 376 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:55.480 management is biased and not treating me fairly and I 377 00:18:55.519 --> 00:18:58.039 think this is the natural evolution out of all of that, 378 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:02.440 because ultimately, why was Tony condemned internally because enough people 379 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:05.160 internally felt that they didn't like the way that he 380 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:08.039 conducted the interview because it went against their world views. 381 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:10.279 But the idea of going to. 382 00:19:12.119 --> 00:19:13.599 Listen, I don't know, I don't know the structure, and 383 00:19:13.599 --> 00:19:15.839 you're gonna have to help me out on this. If 384 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:20.880 somebody in the newsroom, producer, editor, whatever, thought that Tony 385 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:25.000 did that wrong, is the is the best mechanism to 386 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:25.720 go to management? 387 00:19:25.799 --> 00:19:27.599 Or do you go to Tony and say I. 388 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:30.480 Did to me right? Okay? 389 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:31.680 I just want to make I just want. 390 00:19:31.519 --> 00:19:33.359 To make sure that I wasn't coming up with like 391 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:35.200 I know there's a hierarchy, and I know that there's 392 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:38.000 a certain amount of you know, there's still office politics 393 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:41.200 that are involved there, But just Tony and say hey, 394 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:42.680 I didn't like that or I thought this, or I 395 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:43.519 disagreed with you. 396 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:49.480 I think that again. You're seeing this more and more 397 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:52.000 and I'm not going to like cast a whole generation 398 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:55.000 one way. But I hear this from friends of mine 399 00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:57.839 who teach on college campuses, where if somebody has an 400 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:00.359 issue with somebody else, or an opinion they disagree with 401 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:04.599