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For more from 12 00:00:41.159 --> 00:01:02.560 our sex podcast collective, visit Pleasure Podcasts dot com. 13 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:05.599 Hello everybody, Welcome back to Holly Randall Unfiltered. I am 14 00:01:05.719 --> 00:01:08.280 very excited for my guest today. I actually only just 15 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:10.040 met her last week, so this is a very like 16 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:14.000 last minute, kind of serendipitous interview. But I think it's 17 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:15.799 going to be one that you're really going to enjoy. 18 00:01:16.200 --> 00:01:19.519 She is a MoMA for a widow, a Mormon, and 19 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:23.439 a content creator who is passionate about empowerment, honesty, and 20 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:28.319 her faith. Welcome the Costco Mom next Door Holly Jane Johnson. 21 00:01:28.840 --> 00:01:29.280 Thank you. 22 00:01:29.519 --> 00:01:30.480 I'm really excited. 23 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:33.920 Yeah, it's so nice to I mean, obviously another Holly. 24 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:35.680 You know, it was meant to be. 25 00:01:35.760 --> 00:01:38.959 It was meant to be clearly, like all Hollies are great. 26 00:01:39.120 --> 00:01:42.560 So you kept popping up on my feed on Instagram. Yeah, 27 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:44.959 out of nowhere. I don't think we even have any 28 00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:48.159 followers in common. Just the algorithm pushed you to meet. 29 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:51.239 And then I saw you. I recognize your hair. I 30 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:53.719 was like, that's her. She has this beautiful, curly hair. Andy, 31 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:55.319 it's her. I'm going to talk to her. 32 00:01:55.920 --> 00:01:56.359 Yeah, I know. 33 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:58.719 So so we went to it was the ABN House 34 00:01:58.719 --> 00:02:01.519 party last week and I was and yeah, she came 35 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:03.680 up to me and she was like, I've seen you 36 00:02:03.760 --> 00:02:08.319 on Instagram. I'm like, yes, me, yes, And then yeah, 37 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:10.599 we started talking and she said she was in town 38 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:14.199 and you know she you've never done a podcast before? 39 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:14.400 Is that? 40 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:16.199 Oh? I have you have done? Okay? Yeah? 41 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:18.439 And I was on The Daily Blast Live. It's a 42 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:19.599 it's a live talk show. 43 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:20.360 Okay. Yeah. 44 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:23.439 So I've done some podcasts, just not recently, but just 45 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:25.400 not any good ones, just not any good ones. 46 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:28.479 Yes, this is the first so I thought it would 47 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:31.759 be really fun to have her come on. And you 48 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:34.560 have a really interesting story, so definitely want to get 49 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:38.159 into that. So I guesslet's talk about your when you 50 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:40.479 launched your adult career. That was back in twenty twenty one. 51 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:43.080 It was yeah, okay, so tell me what inspired that move. 52 00:02:43.400 --> 00:02:47.039 I knew I wasn't happy, you know, I think any well, 53 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:48.639 a lot of people that work like the nine to five, 54 00:02:48.719 --> 00:02:50.080 they're like, how do I get out of this? 55 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:50.520 Right? 56 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:55.360 And I knew that I wanted to be in the industry. 57 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:57.680 I just didn't know where I fit in, and it 58 00:02:57.719 --> 00:02:59.560 wasn't on the forefront of my mind. I just had 59 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:01.800 a baby and I was on attorney. We'd leave and 60 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:07.080 I'm watching I'm sitting there watching TV and somebody it 61 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:08.000 was miss Poindexter. 62 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:10.599 You know who Miss Poindexter is. The name is so Fune. Okay. 63 00:03:10.639 --> 00:03:14.560 So her kids they were asked to leave their Catholic school, 64 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:20.199 like they could no longer attend because someone outed the mom, 65 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:23.840 Miss Poindexter. So it was a big thing. She was 66 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:26.919 all over the media and this segment came on and 67 00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:28.080 they were talking about. 68 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:30.039 It, and she did she was she and me, she's 69 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:32.840 an OnlyFans. Okay, yeah, she's an O F model. 70 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:35.879 So I saw this and they mentioned the money that 71 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:39.000 she makes and like a little bit in a in 72 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:41.520 like a family friendly way to explain what she does. 73 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:44.560 And I had never heard off before. So I grabbed 74 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:46.759 my phone, like sitting there, I'm like, put the baby 75 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:49.400 down and grab my phone. And it was just the 76 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:52.840 like aha moment, like oh this could be where I 77 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:53.199 fit in. 78 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:54.680 Yeah, and yeah. 79 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:58.039 It was that instant like, oh, this is something, and 80 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:01.840 so I immediately started to research and I put my 81 00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:05.479 whole plan into action, and that's really it. I just 82 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:06.840 took off from there. 83 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:07.639 Yeah. 84 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:10.840 And that is right when Only Fans was really hitting 85 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:14.560 its trajectory, because it's right after the pandemic and all 86 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:17.439 those stories were really coming out about how much people 87 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:21.360 were making and all of those stories about like people 88 00:04:21.399 --> 00:04:24.160 who had this regular day job or was this regular person. 89 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:27.240 Then all of a sudden they tried this this thing, 90 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:30.560 and you know, Only Fans has really changed the landscape 91 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:34.480 of the adult industry so much, because before you had 92 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:36.560 to be a porn star and you had to be 93 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:38.360 hired by a director and you had to do a 94 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:41.000 scene and you got a one time check and you know, 95 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:44.279 you generally had to do a bunch of different shoots 96 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:47.160 to even get your name up there, and you didn't really. 97 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:49.600 Have that much control over your career or your. 98 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:53.319 Image, and you definitely didn't have that direct connection with 99 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:54.240 your fans. 100 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:55.399 That only fans brings you. 101 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:57.199 Right, Yeah, you didn't own your content. 102 00:04:57.480 --> 00:04:57.920 You weren't. 103 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:01.199 I mean, you could be a somewhat of a brand 104 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:04.959 right in that realm, but really you can decide what 105 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:08.920 your brand looks like, who you want to be name 106 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:11.120 the price of your content. I mean, you own all 107 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:13.000 of the rights. You can do whatever you want, you 108 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:15.399 can get creative with it. And so I really like that, 109 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:21.399 And you know, I think not everyone obviously can make 110 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:23.680 it on only fans. It takes a lot of work, 111 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:26.000 and a lot of people think that we just take 112 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:28.120 pictures and we make all of this money. But there's 113 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:30.600 a lot of behind the scenes work that goes into that. 114 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:33.360 And I'm a very driven person. So I just knew 115 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:36.560 I will be that person. Will I will be that 116 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:40.160 mis poindexter. So I was really exciting and I just 117 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:40.839 stuck with it. 118 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:43.639 Were you a sexual person growing up or was that 119 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:47.000 something that you embraces a totally new side of yourself. 120 00:05:47.160 --> 00:05:48.399 Oh I always was. Yeah. 121 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:51.199 Yeah, even you know, growing up, like as you're in 122 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:53.439 high school and you're talking with your friends about what 123 00:05:53.480 --> 00:05:54.920 you want to do, like if you want to go 124 00:05:54.959 --> 00:06:00.199 to college. I had no interest. I was like, I know, 125 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:02.959 I'm going to work for myself, make my own schedule, right, 126 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:05.319 Like I just had this. You know, everyone thought I 127 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:09.199 was in La La Land. I remember Jenny McCarthy and 128 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:13.680 Carmen Electra. Those were my idols. I'm like, they're doing 129 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:15.879 something right, they look like they're having a lot of fun. 130 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:20.079 They're in magazines. I wanted to model, so of course, 131 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:22.920 like I got married, I had kids, and I just 132 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:24.519 thought that's not possible. 133 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:26.920 But that's what I wanted to do well. 134 00:06:26.920 --> 00:06:29.279 And the great thing about only Fans is that it 135 00:06:29.319 --> 00:06:32.480 really opens up that space for you to find that 136 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:37.600 audience that is looking for like that attractive woman next 137 00:06:37.639 --> 00:06:41.279 door that feels more attainable than like a Carmen Electra right. 138 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:46.319 Right, yeah, yeah. People want to think that exactly, that 139 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:49.319 it's obtainable that the mom that they see at the 140 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:51.199 grocery store that they could have a chance with her. 141 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:53.439 I mean, for me, like that's been such an interesting 142 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:56.639 thing to see in on the Internet, and then even 143 00:06:56.680 --> 00:07:00.439 more so with personal content platforms like OnlyFans, because you know, 144 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:02.680 I've been in the adult industry for it'll be twenty 145 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:06.160 seven years in September, and so I started when it 146 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:10.600 was very much controlled by the distributors, and so you know, 147 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:14.959 the only content that people had access to was you know, 148 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:19.120 well VHS's, yeah, and then like DVDs that they bought, 149 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:21.240 and then like magazines that they bought. So they were 150 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:23.360 very much there wasn't a lot of feedback from the 151 00:07:23.399 --> 00:07:27.040 audience to the distributor, right, They just whatever porn they 152 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:30.000 got was what they consumed. And then when the Internet 153 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:32.720 really opened up this opportunity for people to really seek 154 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:35.439 out the things that they were into, you saw like 155 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:40.759 this shift like Mills did not exist fifteen twenty years ago. 156 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:45.199 Like why when you were like twenty eight, you were 157 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:46.800 like done, your career was over. 158 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:47.680 That makes sense. 159 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:50.079 You didn't have the feedback from the audience, like you said, 160 00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:52.199 and so you just assumed what they wanted to see, 161 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:54.759 and that assumption was, you know, they're getting older, no 162 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:57.439 one's interested in this. And then now that we have 163 00:07:57.519 --> 00:07:58.600 the feedback, what's the. 164 00:07:58.600 --> 00:07:59.639 Number one search. 165 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:03.000 I know, it's crazy, so you want to see it's 166 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:07.399 been really cool to see, like how you know pigeonholed. 167 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:10.480 Everybody was in porn before where literally you know I 168 00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:13.519 girls would come in for gosies. Yeah, and I would 169 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:16.759 send their pictures to the magazines for approval and they'd 170 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:17.399 be like, how old she? 171 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:19.720 And I'm like, uh, well, twenty eight. They'd be like, 172 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:23.399 just toold? Can you imagine? It's like too old? Yeah, 173 00:08:23.399 --> 00:08:24.000 you're still a baby. 174 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:27.959 You're still so young, I know, right, And now it's like, 175 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:32.120 you know, you can be in your fifties, in your 176 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:33.799 sixties and some people are doing. 177 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:34.679 Like incredibly well. 178 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:39.320 Yeah, and it's also enabled I think women to come 179 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:43.120 into the industry at a later age when they are 180 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:46.600 in a better place to make decisions like them yeah, yeah, 181 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:48.559 you know what I mean. Yeah, Like they've thought about 182 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:51.200 it and they know what they want in life and 183 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:53.519 they're ready to establish boundaries. I think sometimes when you 184 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:56.279 come into eighteen Yeah. 185 00:08:56.440 --> 00:08:59.039 Yeah, I also think too. You know a lot of men, 186 00:08:59.240 --> 00:09:03.840 and what's different about of is that you're connecting with 187 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:08.799 the fans, and they are seeking more than just the content. 188 00:09:08.879 --> 00:09:12.919 They're seeking the connection and the relationship and that's why 189 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:14.519 they're there. They want to talk to you, they want 190 00:09:14.519 --> 00:09:17.679 to connect with you, and they're into you. They want 191 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:23.720 to know everything about you. And so if if that's true, 192 00:09:23.799 --> 00:09:28.200 which which it is, then they maybe if they're older themselves, 193 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:30.720 then they want someone around their same age that they 194 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:31.399 can connect with. 195 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:32.360 Absolutely. 196 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:35.440 I think that the reason that it exploded so much 197 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:38.279 during the pandemic was obviously, like people were so isolated, 198 00:09:38.279 --> 00:09:40.799 people were so lonely, and this is a way for 199 00:09:40.840 --> 00:09:45.039 them to connect with other people. And you know, you 200 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:49.559 really saw like how important that connection was to two fans, 201 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:52.679 and that's It's just it's crazy because I remember when 202 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:55.600 only fans first came along. Yeah, and I signed up, 203 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:57.600 and I just because I wanted to grab my username, right, 204 00:09:57.600 --> 00:09:59.559 I didn't want anyone to take it. But I didn't 205 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:02.559 like think anything of it. I mean, like I'll be 206 00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:04.080 the first to admit, like I didn't think it was 207 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:04.840 going to go anywhere. 208 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:05.519 I was wrong. 209 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:09.440 Yeah, And and just to see the way it's exploded, 210 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:10.759 it was, I don't know, I feel like it was 211 00:10:10.799 --> 00:10:12.600 something that like I don't think anyone. 212 00:10:12.399 --> 00:10:16.159 Saw it coming, right really, Yeah, which is kind of crazy. Yeah, 213 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:18.879 everyone was sort of surprised by how well this is 214 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:19.799 going and taking off. 215 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:22.320 Yeah, so tell me how you built an audience, because 216 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:25.720 you know, a lot of women who got on OnlyFans 217 00:10:25.720 --> 00:10:27.879 at least like from my industry already had a following, 218 00:10:27.960 --> 00:10:31.080 right like because they were doing adult movies. But you 219 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:34.679 came you were a mom, and you know you didn't have. 220 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:37.720 I had no I had a Facebook that I posted 221 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:40.240 on maybe once a year because the family wants to 222 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:42.960 see pictures of the kids, right like. That was the extent, 223 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:45.480 and I was never on there. I just occasionally would 224 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:51.720 go on post that picture. Leave. I had never used TikTok, Twitter, Instagram. 225 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:54.279 It was just that Facebook. So part of that, you know, 226 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:56.840 when I saw miss Poindexter and I was like, Okay, 227 00:10:56.879 --> 00:11:00.279 this is what I'm going to do. I spent about 228 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:02.840 a month to two months putting together a business plan 229 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:06.480 because this is a business, and getting the LLC and 230 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:08.759 writing out that plan. And part of that plan was 231 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:12.679 I knew because I did my research, Oh you can't 232 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:17.440 just go onto OnlyFans and type in blonde milf right, 233 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:21.399 There's really no internal traffic. So a lot of the 234 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:24.720 business and the success of the business depends on marketing. 235 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:25.200 Yourself. 236 00:11:25.639 --> 00:11:28.440 So I had to open all of these accounts, and 237 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:33.759 I opened multiple on Instagram and multiple Twitters, and I knew, okay, 238 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:36.679 I need as many eyeballs on me as possible. So 239 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:40.559 I spent several months just posting like crazy, just working 240 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:43.240 really hard to build my presence on all of these 241 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:45.879 different platforms. I would sit on you can't really do 242 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:48.840 this anymore and go anywhere with it. But I would 243 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:51.320 sit on TikTok for like an hour just on live 244 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:55.320 building a fan base and pushing them over to my Instagram. 245 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:59.000 And I'm a nut. I wake up at like seven 246 00:11:59.039 --> 00:12:01.159 am and I pose I post it noon. I post 247 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:03.480 at the same time every day, multiple times a day 248 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:06.840 on all of my twelve accounts, and I'm just very 249 00:12:06.879 --> 00:12:10.519 consistent with it. Like my religion now, my new religion 250 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:12.679 is posting on Instagram. 251 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:15.440 Yeah, so you say you have multiple accounts. Why did 252 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:18.600 you open multiple accounts? And like, are they different from 253 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:21.879 each other in anyway? No, I'm starting with the batch creating. 254 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:23.600 So I will. 255 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:26.360 Let's say I'm in a swim suit and I'm just 256 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:30.080 you know, posting, you know, in a picture or just 257 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:32.399 make a cute reel in that swimsuit. I'm going to 258 00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:35.120 make a twelve in that swimsuit so that I don't 259 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:37.840 have to reinvent the wheel. And okay, what am I 260 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:40.120 doing for the next one. It's just it's quick, you know, 261 00:12:40.120 --> 00:12:42.720 It's a seven second reel, and then I bust out 262 00:12:42.759 --> 00:12:46.840 the next one. It's I'll batch create. Since I post 263 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:49.759 three times a day, I'll get you know, in another outfit, 264 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:52.759 and we'll do that in three outfits so that I 265 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:55.399 have that content for the day, and I and I 266 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:58.840 will do this. I'll do about a week's worth of 267 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:01.679 content and just kind of repeat that process. And why 268 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:04.120 twelve accounts is because, like I said, I need to 269 00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:06.480 have as many eyes on me as possible, and these 270 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:09.240 accounts don't perform the same. You could open an Instagram 271 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:12.039 and you could be frustrated and think I only get 272 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:16.080 you know, five thousand views on all of my reels. 273 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:19.480 You could open another account and for some reason, I'm 274 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:24.080 getting in thirty days, I'm pulling in like ten million views. 275 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:26.960 And so I knew and I saw very quickly. Okay, 276 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:30.080 some of these accounts are kind of duds. Some are performing. Okay, 277 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:33.240 I have one that performs well, well, you know, in 278 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:37.480 this industry, Instagram is not our friend, and your account 279 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:39.879 can go down, and you've put all of your eggs 280 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:42.679 in one basket in this account, so I better have twelve. 281 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:46.799 So do you have a theory as to why certain 282 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:49.279 accounts do better than others? Do you think it's just 283 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:53.879 like an algorithm like chance? Yeah, exactly, yeah, right, A 284 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:56.279 lot of it is luck. Yeah, yeah, because I have 285 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:00.440 found that I started helping a couple of girls like 286 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:04.360 start new Instagrams, and I have found that I struggle 287 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:08.440 with getting some posts above like a certain number, like 288 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:11.360 some will do really well and then others won't. And 289 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:13.879 I can see like the ones that Instagram is pushing 290 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:17.559 out to the non followers versus the followers only, and 291 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:20.759 it seems like the sexier it is, the more Instagram 292 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:21.879 will choke the traffic. 293 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:24.759 Yeah. True, And I'm like, how you get past that barrier? 294 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:27.159 Do you have to get to a certain number of 295 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:30.360 followers and then it's just like at that point, it's 296 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:34.440 just the like an exponential growth like that's yes, yes, 297 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:38.000 my own personal account, I already like over eight hundred thousands. 298 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:40.679 That's different, but starting from scratch, like I haven't done 299 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:42.200 that since the beginning of Instagram. 300 00:14:42.279 --> 00:14:45.200 It's yeah, it's really difficult. Yes, you're right, but also 301 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:49.440 without pushing the limits. So some think, oh, I have 302 00:14:49.519 --> 00:14:52.039 five million followers, I can do whatever I want. Well, 303 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:53.759 you turn around in a thong and you're going to 304 00:14:53.799 --> 00:14:55.720 find out real quick you can't do whatever you want 305 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:58.440 then to fly the posts. So it's there's a balance. 306 00:14:59.159 --> 00:14:59.360 You know. 307 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:02.799 I have an account, my main account. I think for 308 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:04.759 the last thirty days. You know how it shows like 309 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:07.879 your views for the last thirty days, I met ninety 310 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:08.720 million views. 311 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:09.639 That's a lot. 312 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:12.399 Yeah, ninety million views, and the last thirty days on 313 00:15:12.399 --> 00:15:15.840 that account. Another account is at like fifteen million. So 314 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:19.799 that's why I have these accounts because I'm going to 315 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:20.600 get lucky on one. 316 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:24.559 Okay, interesting, and they're none that you like give up on. No, 317 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:27.559 you're just like never, I'm going to keep. I believe 318 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:31.399 in all of you. I believe your children. Yes, yeah, exactly. 319 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:33.879 I believe in you, and I just treat them as 320 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:36.720 though this next post is going to go viral and 321 00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:37.919 eventually something will. 322 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:39.000 So you just have to. 323 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:42.440 I think people get frustrated and they give up, and 324 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:44.960 you can't. You have to just yeah, you can't, you 325 00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:48.759 have to, Yes, you just have to maintain that delusion 326 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:50.679 that this next post is going to do it, this 327 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:53.159 next post is going to do it, because eventually it will. 328 00:15:53.559 --> 00:15:53.759 Yeah. 329 00:15:53.799 --> 00:15:58.240 Yeah, So do you post the same exact Do you 330 00:15:58.279 --> 00:15:59.960 do a different post for each Instagram? 331 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.679 I do because Instagram doesn't want you to spam, so 332 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:04.360 they don't want you to take this real that you 333 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:07.000 posted on this account and post it on another make 334 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:09.559 a different reel. But they're pretty identical. Maybe in this 335 00:16:09.600 --> 00:16:11.519 one I went like this with my hair instead of 336 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:14.840 instead of just standing there. You know, their captions are different. 337 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:15.559 I don't. 338 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:18.840 Usually I don't really believe in captions. I don't my 339 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:21.120 main account try to find it. I mean, okay, you 340 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:25.399 maybe find on a collap maybe I don't know. Two 341 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:28.360 captions out of like a hundred, I don't. I don't 342 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:30.519 think it makes the difference. No one reads, no, No 343 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:34.159 one looks at that. No, so hashtag well no, don't 344 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:34.559 even bother. 345 00:16:34.679 --> 00:16:38.120 No one cares about that, cares will be there on 346 00:16:38.159 --> 00:16:39.720 TikTok though hashtags matter, I. 347 00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:42.080 Think, so, yeah, yeah I do. 348 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:43.600 Do you guys know you were taking a social media 349 00:16:43.639 --> 00:16:47.559 class today? I'm sorry, these the questions I want to know. 350 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:49.399 So I think a lot of people want to know 351 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:51.960 why do you do what I Some guys will ask, 352 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:54.480 They're like, wait, why am why am I seeing like 353 00:16:54.519 --> 00:16:56.799 twelve of you. I'm like, because a girl's got to 354 00:16:56.799 --> 00:16:57.879 do what a girl's gotta do. 355 00:16:58.240 --> 00:17:00.759 Yeah, So tell me about when you first opened your 356 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:02.919 only fans, Like, do you remember the first piece of 357 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:04.839 content that you shared on there? 358 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:06.039 Embarrassing photos? 359 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:06.559 Oh my gosh. 360 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:11.279 I look back and I'm like, those are so low quality, embarrassing, 361 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:14.960 like horrible lighting. I probably had like some terrible filter 362 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:18.039 on it, you know. I just yeah, I don't repeat 363 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:23.000 those photos. And then video. I don't know why, because 364 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:25.200 I could have made so much more money, so so 365 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:28.680 much sooner. I think the first one was just like 366 00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:31.160 a like a beaja facial video. 367 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:33.400 Oh that was your first video? That was No, that 368 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:34.240 was my first. 369 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:36.440 Boy girl, OK. And I think I waited like six 370 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:39.799 months to post it because I was like, I can't 371 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:41.200 give them everything at once. 372 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:43.960 We have to trickle this out. Yeah, absolutely, he. 373 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:45.359 Like build up the interest. 374 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:45.720 You know. 375 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:50.039 It was just a solo video of myself probably terrible. 376 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:54.920 Sorry it's gotten better, I promise, but yeah, just a 377 00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:58.400 solo video, you know, like five minutes solo. I think 378 00:17:58.440 --> 00:18:00.720 I did that right out the gate, Like first week 379 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:04.160 it was like, Okay, we're doing this. Yeah, and then 380 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:08.799 I think, yeah, they got that j video. And then 381 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:11.519 I think I waited like a year to have a 382 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:13.440 true boy girl video and then it was. 383 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:15.759 On after that, After that it was very easy. Yeah. 384 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:20.200 Yeah, So how how did you build up your only fans? 385 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:22.400 Like where, like how long did it take for you 386 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:25.359 you got to a point where you're like, Okay, I'm 387 00:18:25.400 --> 00:18:29.000 making serious money because I mean, you know, you hear 388 00:18:29.079 --> 00:18:31.720 all these stories about oh my god, all we hear 389 00:18:31.799 --> 00:18:33.839 is the people that are making millions of dollars on 390 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:36.240 their only fans, two hundred thousand dollars a month, whatever 391 00:18:36.279 --> 00:18:36.519 it is. 392 00:18:36.599 --> 00:18:39.759 But a majority of creators are. 393 00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:43.839 Making no more than two hundred dollars a month, right, So, 394 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:47.400 and it's so hard for people to push past yeah, 395 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:49.279 that that drop off? 396 00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:51.720 Right, how did you get past that? 397 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:52.440 So? 398 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:53.519 I think I was. 399 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:56.640 Two months in when I quit my job. I was 400 00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:59.359 recruiting nurses for a dialysis company. Okay, I had a 401 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:02.240