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Speaker 2: Like that, David Vasse, We are live at Dodgers Stadium.
Speaker 2: After the Phillies bully the Dodgers and beat them nine
Speaker 2: to four, taking two out of three at Dodger Stadium,
Speaker 2: and walk out of here with baseball's best record. Welcome
Speaker 2: to Dodger Talk. David Vasse with you until eleven thirty tonight,
Speaker 2: live from Dodgers Stadium. We have a full board of calls,
Speaker 2: as you can imagine, but keep trying at eight six, six, nine,
Speaker 2: eight seven, two five seventy. I'll get to the sixth
Speaker 2: inning and the eighth inning in a moment, But first
Speaker 2: I think we all have to realize, and those players
Speaker 2: and coaches have to realize they are in a division race.
Speaker 2: Nobody cares. They're waiting for Mookie Beds or Macmunsee or
Speaker 2: Tommy Edman or whoever else you're waiting for the Diamondbacks
Speaker 2: and the Padres do not care. They are coming strong,
Speaker 2: and the Diamondbacks to me, are a bigger threat than
Speaker 2: the Padres. You remember the Diamondbacks, right, the team that
Speaker 2: swept the Dodgers out of the postseason unceremoniously last year. Well,
Speaker 2: they've had their share of injuries, they've had an underperforming
Speaker 2: Corbin Carol and here they are just three games back
Speaker 2: of the Dodgers in the NL West. That is the
Speaker 2: closest the Padres and Diamondbacks have been since the end
Speaker 2: of April. So you could talk about the schedule, you
Speaker 2: can talk about injuries. All these teams have had to
Speaker 2: play a tough schedule. Every team plays every team this year,
Speaker 2: so there is no unbalanced schedule. That argument goes out
Speaker 2: the window when you talk about the schedule because everybody
Speaker 2: plays each other. So all of that doesn't mean a
Speaker 2: lot to the Diamondbacks, the Padres, the Rockies, the Phillies, who,
Speaker 2: by the way, have the Baseball's best record and now
Speaker 2: three games ahead of the Dodgers in the lost column.
Speaker 2: So you know, the Diamondbacks have not had two major
Speaker 2: starters in their rotation all year long, in Eduardo Rodriguez
Speaker 2: and Merrill Kelly. Eduardo Rodriguez came back today and pitched
Speaker 2: really well, and the Diamondbacks swept the Guardians who are
Speaker 2: one of the best teams in the American League in
Speaker 2: a doubleheader in Cleveland. Shoho Tani certainly is right in
Speaker 2: there for the MVP race, but right behind him is
Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks infielder Katel Marte, who is having an MVP
Speaker 2: caliber season as well, and so is Jock Peterson, who
Speaker 2: is having an amazing season for the Diamondbacks. So you know,
Speaker 2: this has become a division race. And it's great to
Speaker 2: believe that Mookie Betts coming back next week is going
Speaker 2: to change everything. It may or may not. He hasn't
Speaker 2: played in six weeks. But the Dodgers need better pitching.
Speaker 2: What did them so well early in the season was
Speaker 2: great starting pitching. They have not gotten that recently or consistently.
Speaker 2: In the last eleven games, including tonight, we haven't seen
Speaker 2: starters go very far. They've thrown one hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: six and a third innings, while the relievers have thrown
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty three in a third innings. So
Speaker 2: you can talk about Mookie Bets and Max Munsey all
Speaker 2: you want. The Dodgers need to get better starting pitching
Speaker 2: moving forward, all right, And before we also get to
Speaker 2: the sixth inning, tonight. I thought it was interesting that
Speaker 2: Alex Vesia was warmed up and ready to come in
Speaker 2: in the fifth inning to face Kyle Schwarber with two
Speaker 2: on and two out, but Dave Roberts left Gavin Stone
Speaker 2: out there in that situation to see if he could
Speaker 2: get through it, which he didn't. Schwarber doubled in two
Speaker 2: runs and that was the beginning of the Phillies comeback.
Speaker 2: It was two on with one out and Vessia was
Speaker 2: ready to go, so obviously Dave Roberts was thinking about it,
Speaker 2: and he chose to leave Vessia in the bullpen and
Speaker 2: Gavin Stone to face Kyle Schwarber now in the sixth inning.
Speaker 2: That was a horrible call by Hunter Wendelstat but equally
Speaker 2: disappointing pitching from Joe Kelly. Two walks, a wild pitch
Speaker 2: and he gives up a three run home run to
Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber. Are we all just supposed to ignore that?
Speaker 2: I mean, bad calls are going to happen right in
Speaker 2: the postseason. You can't just allow a bad call to
Speaker 2: completely unravel your dugout and unravel your team. Joe Kelly's
Speaker 2: got a pitch better in that situation. And you're out
Speaker 2: of that inning. I mean, bad calls happen, not as
Speaker 2: bad as that one. That was a horrible call. But
Speaker 2: what has really got me fired up in a lot
Speaker 2: of ways disappointed is the way the Dodgers reacted in
Speaker 2: the eighth inning, especially after Michael Grove hit Nick Castianos,
Speaker 2: and Nick Castianos is screaming at him, this is the
Speaker 2: big leagues, This is the big Leagues. Uh. Those guys
Speaker 2: got a lot of dog in them, the Phillies, and
Speaker 2: I have said this the last month or two that
Speaker 2: the Dodgers are too nice of a team, and it
Speaker 2: was on full displaying the eighth inning. Not only did
Speaker 2: the Phillies come in here and beat the Dodgers, but
Speaker 2: they took their lunch money as well in that eighth inning.
Speaker 2: And hopefully somebody has taken inventory of what transpired in
Speaker 2: that eighth inning and how they may react differently. Because
Speaker 2: I've been here since twenty twelve, I've seen Dodger teams
Speaker 2: in twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, when David Frieze
Speaker 2: was on this team in eighteen, they would not have
Speaker 2: been as passive as they were in that eighth inning.
Speaker 2: And Gavin Lux. I mean, you're just gonna stare at him.
Speaker 2: You stared at Renel Blanco in Houston and he screamed
Speaker 2: right back at you. And all you did was walk
Speaker 2: up to first base. And then tonight Matt Strom hits
Speaker 2: you in retaliation for Nick Castianos, and nobody from anywhere
Speaker 2: from the Dodger's side is doing much of anything. At
Speaker 2: some point, Gavin Lux has got to stop being the
Speaker 2: pin cushion for other pitchers. I mean, that's not fair
Speaker 2: to him, and he's got to take, you know, a
Speaker 2: little bit more ownership of it as well. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: would have liked to have seen a bench's clearing brawl tonight.
Speaker 2: I would have liked to see that. That may have
Speaker 2: changed something. But right now, the Phillies not only have
Speaker 2: beat the Dodgers five out of six times, they bullied
Speaker 2: them tonight and now they had the mental edge if
Speaker 2: they see each other in the postseason, you can't be nice.
Speaker 2: Can't be nice? Eight six, six, nine seven, two five
Speaker 2: seventy is the phone number. Let's go out to Bobby
Speaker 2: and Cardiff. You're on Dodger Talk. How you doing, Bobby?
Speaker 3: Well, you know I've been better as a Dodger fan.
Speaker 3: I'm a long time fan. I grew up listening to
Speaker 3: Vin Scully and Dodger talk, and I've only called one
Speaker 3: time was when Vin Scully died, and I want to
Speaker 3: commend you for the job you did that night, like
Speaker 3: helping us process that, because it was my childhood, you know,
Speaker 3: And so all these years, this is the first time
Speaker 3: I've been compelled to call. And You've done a good
Speaker 3: job making the point I want to make. But this
Speaker 3: is hard to say because Andrew Freeman is so good
Speaker 3: in some ways, but he's producing high level mediocrity. And
Speaker 3: I've been concerned about this since twenty seventeen. That's like
Speaker 3: the most talented Dodger team I've seen, having been a
Speaker 3: fan since the seventies. And I was like, we got
Speaker 3: to go all in. We got to get Justin Verlander,
Speaker 3: and he smarted everybody and got you darbish.
Speaker 2: And this at the time that the Dodgers got you darvish.
Speaker 2: Justin Verlander wasn't pitching that great. He was picked up
Speaker 2: in August later in the month when there were waiver
Speaker 2: trade deadlines, and he was pitching better, so they could
Speaker 2: have traded for both. And when you say a high
Speaker 2: level mediocrity. Winning one hundred games one hundred plus games
Speaker 2: four out of the last five or four straight full seasons.
Speaker 2: To me, that's not mediocrity. Doesn't come into play right there.
Speaker 2: That word does not play when you win one hundred games.
Speaker 3: I care a little bit more about championships.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Finally, you can't say it's mediocrity. Mediocrity is when you're
Speaker 2: middling at eighty wins.
Speaker 5: A year or high level mediocrety.
Speaker 2: But just words. So what's your point as far as
Speaker 2: what you saw tonight?
Speaker 3: My point is the point you've been making. This team
Speaker 3: has no kahonas, and it's a reflection of Andrew Friedman
Speaker 3: and the kinds of players he likes, like Mookie Betts
Speaker 3: and Freddie Freeman. They're nice guys.
Speaker 5: I love them.
Speaker 3: They want to win, but they don't need to win.
Speaker 3: I would trade anybody on this roster besides Clayton Kershawt
Speaker 3: to get Corey Seeer back. That guy needs to win, yeah.
Speaker 6: Because.
Speaker 2: He was that type of guy, and he was invested
Speaker 2: because he came up through the system. He had played
Speaker 2: with the same teammates for a lot of years. And
Speaker 2: I love that Corey Seeger broke up a frand Burr
Speaker 2: Valdez no hitter in the ninth inning. He does not
Speaker 2: like the Astros and he still carries that with him.
Speaker 2: From twenty seventeen, he told us, Bobby, I got a
Speaker 2: full board of calls. I appreciate your contribution, but I
Speaker 2: got to.
Speaker 7: Move on on the hot seat.
Speaker 3: What Freedman needs to be on the hot seat? Even
Speaker 3: it's a roast, callers, you gotta start roasting collars and
Speaker 3: not be so nicey, okay.
Speaker 2: Bobby, thanks for the phone call. Eight six six nine
Speaker 2: eight seven two five seventy. I'll try to bring more edge.
Speaker 2: I don't know how that's going to translate on the field,
Speaker 2: but man, I just want to see more of it,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. I did not like what I saw
Speaker 2: on the eighth inning. I can take losses, but I
Speaker 2: did not like what I saw on the eighth inning.
Speaker 2: I thought Michael Grove should have hit Kyle Schwarber leading
Speaker 2: off the top of the ninth inning. That would have
Speaker 2: showed a lot to his teammates, and that would have
Speaker 2: sent a message to the Phillies. Let's go out to Sarkis,
Speaker 2: Santa Clarita, you're on Dodger Talk and I would have
Speaker 2: liked to see Gavin Lux rush the mound in the
Speaker 2: bottom of the eighth inning. To be quite honest, Sarkis,
Speaker 2: you're on Dodger Talk. How you doing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm good, Dave, so totally correct. I would have
Speaker 8: loved to see Gavin do execut you that. So we
Speaker 8: have a team full of if I can use a
Speaker 8: hockey analogy, we have a team full of Wayne Gretzky's.
Speaker 8: We need a Marty McSorley on this team. Somebody was
Speaker 8: an edge, somebody who's not gonna take crap from anybody.
Speaker 5: We don't have it.
Speaker 8: We need a fiery guy. We need somebody to stir
Speaker 8: stuff up.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 8: Come on, We're losing games we should win. And it's
Speaker 8: the trend now. It's happening over and over and over again.
Speaker 8: We need somebody to stir it up, mix it up,
Speaker 8: and get them fired up. That's all I gotta say.
Speaker 2: All Right, appreciate it, and I do agree with you.
Speaker 2: The Dodgers since going into the All Star break that
Speaker 2: final week, on that road trip to Philly and especially
Speaker 2: in Detroit, they have lost a lot of games they
Speaker 2: should have won. And coming out of the All Star
Speaker 2: Break on this pass road trip in Houston, the Dodgers
Speaker 2: lost games they should have won. I'm with you, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, now it's a division race. You
Speaker 2: can't keep losing games that you're supposed to win and
Speaker 2: expect to blow by the rest of the division when
Speaker 2: you have two really good teams in your division. And
Speaker 2: quite honestly, I feel like the NL West is not
Speaker 2: getting its due for having three teams with sixty or
Speaker 2: more wins. You got the Padres and Diamondbacks with sixty
Speaker 2: three wins, The Dodgers have sixty six. The NL East
Speaker 2: just barely got three with sixty So I mean you
Speaker 2: got to start giving this division the respect it deserves.
Speaker 2: And going back to the Dodgers blowing a lot of
Speaker 2: games in the last month they should have won. That's
Speaker 2: why they only have a three game lead in the
Speaker 2: division right now. Eight six six, nine seven two five
Speaker 2: seventy is the phone number. Phillies beat the Dodgers in
Speaker 2: more ways than one tonight, nine to four. Let's go
Speaker 2: out to Downey. Frank, you're on Dodger Talk. A lot
Speaker 2: of edge and Downey, by the way, I know about
Speaker 2: Downy the Downy Flash. Johnny Hortiz there's some tough guys
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 4: Frank oh Man, I love you call him man a
Speaker 4: lot of passion. I just got to think today about
Speaker 4: Dave Roberts, how he got kicked out. I'm more mad
Speaker 4: at the team or one of our players with the
Speaker 4: bigger bag. Need to take a bullet and go state
Speaker 4: something to that umpire. Pump up the crowd, pump up
Speaker 4: the team, go kick third base or something. You get
Speaker 4: the big broid away. I don't know what, but wake
Speaker 4: to team up man week, Well you.
Speaker 2: Got You know, everybody complains that Dave Roberts doesn't show
Speaker 2: enough emotion. Tonight, he went out there and showed a
Speaker 2: lot of emotion. In fact, him and Miguel Rojas showed
Speaker 2: the most emotion that I saw from anybody tonight on
Speaker 2: the field. So all the Dave Roberts critics aren't calling
Speaker 2: in tonight to say good on day for going out
Speaker 2: there and getting thrown out to show emotion. Nobody's talking
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 4: No, I love what he did. It wouldn't be imperfect
Speaker 4: and cursed out. Would have gone out there and said
Speaker 4: something to that umpire man, what you imperfect? And my
Speaker 4: other thing is Joe Kelly Man I know people love
Speaker 4: him for what he hit how Tube.
Speaker 6: And Berman and Bregman and.
Speaker 4: Nearly hit Korea, and people love him for that, you know,
Speaker 4: But man, he needs to go. Man, he has he
Speaker 4: pays a round with these batteries. He his most important pitch,
Speaker 4: or probably it's his fastball, the most the one he
Speaker 4: hits me the most consistent, and he goes away from it,
Speaker 4: and he tries to play around with other pitches. And
Speaker 4: he watched a lot of batters and and Cal Shober
Speaker 4: was just waiting for some mistake. He got it. It's
Speaker 4: like point him a cup of water and watching him
Speaker 4: drink off of it.
Speaker 2: With you, man, But Joe loves the data they show
Speaker 2: him about the spin raid on his off speed stuff
Speaker 2: and all that other stuff. I'm with you. The fastball
Speaker 2: is his bread and butter. And you're throwing Kyle Schwarber
Speaker 2: and off speed pitch up in the zone. Obviously that's
Speaker 2: not where he wanted to throw it, but that's where
Speaker 2: it ended up. And then it ended up in the seats.
Speaker 2: The Dodgers never made w Schwerber uncomfortable tonight. They just
Speaker 2: let him run Derby tonight.
Speaker 4: I would have brought in Michael Kolpak. Look what he
Speaker 4: did was already used.
Speaker 2: They already had used Kopek.
Speaker 4: All right, now, well but you see, well they brought
Speaker 4: Copec game after.
Speaker 2: You're right, Frank, You're right they you know, at this
Speaker 2: point in time, at this point in time, high leverage,
Speaker 2: it's not Joe Kelly. I would go with Michael Kopek,
Speaker 2: because You're right. They brought in Kopek after that game
Speaker 2: got away from the Dodgers in the sixth inning when
Speaker 2: they scored five runs. And I'm brad, I'm glad you
Speaker 2: brought up Michael Kopek because he pitched a dominant, scoreless
Speaker 2: uh sixth inning. And in four games as a Dodger,
Speaker 2: he has not given up a run. He has six strikeouts,
Speaker 2: he has only allot one hit and no walks. And
Speaker 2: I actually, you know how they do power rankings for
Speaker 2: teams and in the NFL and Major League Baseball. Well,
Speaker 2: if I'm ranking power ranking the Dodger bullpen arms right now,
Speaker 2: Michael Kopek is number one for me. He is a
Speaker 2: number one highest leverage situation. Michael Kopek is my guy.
Speaker 2: And after that it's Anthony Band and then after that
Speaker 2: it's Alex Vesia, and then Daniel Hudson, and then Avian Phillips,
Speaker 2: and then Brent Honeywell and Joe Kelly right now in
Speaker 2: my bullpen power rankings, which can change weekly, daily, but
Speaker 2: right now, Joe Kelly is the guy that I do
Speaker 2: not trust as much as I trust those other guys.
Speaker 2: Eight six six ninety seven two five seventy is the
Speaker 2: phone number. Let's go out to Rudy in LA. You're
Speaker 2: on Dodger Talk.
Speaker 10: Hi, Rudy, thank you to co taking McCall. Dave, I mad, mad,
Speaker 10: I always see Dave Roberts doing the same move. You're right,
Speaker 10: he had Vaci warmup ready to go. Why not bringing
Speaker 10: him in? He did the same thing when we were
Speaker 10: in Detroit. We're winning the game ninety four and we
Speaker 10: ended up losing eleven or nine. Really, when he's taking
Speaker 10: the wake up and see it, I agree with you.
Speaker 10: Another thing, do they check on the umpires? That was
Speaker 10: a horrible call that anybody talks to them after the
Speaker 10: game and say you missed bub I'm.
Speaker 2: With you, Rudy. You know they the way the rules
Speaker 2: have been as far as handling umpires, when a controversial
Speaker 2: call is made up, they send in one rider, which
Speaker 2: they call a pool reporter, and that one reporter speaks
Speaker 2: to the umpire outside of their locker room. A player
Speaker 2: has a bad game, a manager has a bad game,
Speaker 2: they all have to stand in front of their lockers
Speaker 2: or at a podium and explain why Why are umpires
Speaker 2: exempt from that? Hunter Wendelstad should have been in the
Speaker 2: press conference room tonight to take accountability for a horrible call.
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. I have always maintained that
Speaker 2: umpires get off the hook way easier. Everybody else in
Speaker 2: this game is accountable. If you give up a game
Speaker 2: winning home run, you got to be in front of
Speaker 2: the cameras. If you make a mistake as a manager,
Speaker 2: you got to be at the press conference. Why is
Speaker 2: Hunter Wendelstadt hiding in the umpire room? All right? Thank
Speaker 2: you for the phone call. Eight sixty six nine eighty
Speaker 2: seven two five seventy. I have felt that way for
Speaker 2: a long time. And look, umpires nowadays have a tougher
Speaker 2: job keeping track of so many different things that Major
Speaker 2: League Baseball has implemented, with the pitch clock and the
Speaker 2: disengagements and the throwovers and all that stuff. They have
Speaker 2: a tough job. But in that situation. That was the
Speaker 2: most egregious miscall or bad call I've seen in a
Speaker 2: long time, and it should be reviewable. I can't believe
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball does not have that obstruction type of
Speaker 2: play reviewable. You have everything else under the sun reviewable
Speaker 2: except a play like that, And hopefully between now and October,
Speaker 2: the people in New York take notice of a play
Speaker 2: like that and don't wait until next year to make
Speaker 2: that type of play reviewable. They figure it out between
Speaker 2: now and the start of the post. Because could you
Speaker 2: imagine a call like that being made in a playoff
Speaker 2: game and it's not reviewable. It would have been put
Speaker 2: under the microscope so many times in a twenty four
Speaker 2: to seven news cycle. Eight six six nine eighty seven
Speaker 2: two five seventy is the phone number. We're gonna take
Speaker 2: a time out here on Dodger Talk. We have a
Speaker 2: full board of calls. We will get to you at
Speaker 2: eight six six nine eighty seven two five seventy. We
Speaker 2: also will hear from Miguil Rojas, who obviously was not
Speaker 2: happy with that call either. As the Phillies beat the
Speaker 2: Dodgers nine to four on a five to seventy LA Sports.
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Speaker 2: This is Dodger Talk with David vas Sam David Vasse
Speaker 2: live at Rogers Stadium. After the Phillies bully and beat
Speaker 2: the Dodgers tonight nine to four, take the final two
Speaker 2: games of this series, and the Dodgers lose five out
Speaker 2: of six this season to the Phillies, and there's a
Speaker 2: very good chance these two teams may see each other
Speaker 2: in the postseason. But right now, the Dodgers have got
Speaker 2: to think about winning this division again because they're only
Speaker 2: three games ahead of Arizona and San Diego. The Padres
Speaker 2: came from behind tonight to win, and the Arizona Diamondbacks
Speaker 2: swept a double header in Cleveland against the AL Central
Speaker 2: leading Guardians. So the Diamondbacks are for real. They're getting
Speaker 2: back Merrill Kelly, they got back Eduardo Rodriguez. Today. They
Speaker 2: called up a young rookie catcher that has been unbelievable.
Speaker 2: And also they called up a closer. I don't know
Speaker 2: his name off the top of my head, but he's
Speaker 2: thrown one hundred and one miles an hour to close
Speaker 2: out games for Arizona to tell Marte is right there
Speaker 2: with shoe Aotani. As far as an MVP candidate, Jack
Speaker 2: Peterson has a nine to fifty ops and a two
Speaker 2: to eighty eight batting average. He's having one of his
Speaker 2: great seasons in Major League Baseball, and they are playing
Speaker 2: with a lot of edge, and the Dodgers need to
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Speaker 2: nine eighty seven, two, five seventy. We have a full
Speaker 2: border calls. We will get to you, but first let's
Speaker 2: head back downstairs to the Dodger Clubhouse to hear from
Speaker 2: Miguel Rojas, who is just activated today off the fifteen
Speaker 2: day il and got the started shortstop and was right
Speaker 2: at the center of the storm in the sixth inning
Speaker 2: when Hunter Wendelstack called upstrut action when Rojas clearly allowed
Speaker 2: a lane for Alec Baum, who was going from second
Speaker 2: to third and was tagged out by Rojas, and unfortunately
Speaker 2: things went against the Dodgers from there and certainly spun
Speaker 2: out of control. So let's go downstairs to Miguel Rojas
Speaker 2: on sports Net l A.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah.
Speaker 9: Even even right after the play, I was upset because
Speaker 9: I know and I knew that I didn't do anything wrong,
Speaker 9: you know, to strap the back or anything like that.
Speaker 9: I was just trying to catch a ball and make
Speaker 9: a play. And when you're running towards towards the target,
Speaker 9: trying to catch a ball and trying to get your
Speaker 9: feet situated to make a call, UH, to make a play,
Speaker 9: you don't. You never expect umpires looking for for UH
Speaker 9: to be the the hero there, you know, and trying
Speaker 9: to make a call just because we got a ruling place.
Speaker 9: I thought the rule it was for for people and
Speaker 9: for players safety, you know, and for for players not
Speaker 9: blocking the back to to make someone hurt. And in
Speaker 9: that play, with me not making an attempt to kind
Speaker 9: of block the back or or be on the way
Speaker 9: of bone to get to third base, it was disappointed.
Speaker 9: And what was a little more disappointed is when I'm
Speaker 9: trying to get an explanation and the guys started screaming
Speaker 9: at me that we that we vote just for that
Speaker 9: play that we never we never did that. So MLB
Speaker 9: is trying to play, uh put h rules in play
Speaker 9: for us to be safe and for the games to
Speaker 9: be playing a different way the way that we always play.
Speaker 9: And sometimes we don't even have a say on that,
Speaker 9: Like we wasn't ready for like to make a change
Speaker 9: like that right away when it was proposed. But it's
Speaker 9: always like that, you know, like we we have to
Speaker 9: always make the adjustment. The players is always the one
Speaker 9: making the adjustment and trying to play the game the
Speaker 9: best way that we can with the new rules and
Speaker 9: all that. And I think this is the first time
Speaker 9: that I seen that call against us, and that I
Speaker 9: think I think that wasn't the right It wasn't the
Speaker 9: right call, especially coming from a guy like him that
Speaker 9: you expect a guy that he's been in the lead
Speaker 9: for for a long time to have a little bit
Speaker 9: of feel of the game, what kind of play it is.
Speaker 9: I think this guy is seeing this display a million
Speaker 9: times and he just won some part of I don't know,
Speaker 9: part of a moment in the game. And it's really
Speaker 9: sad that he changed the whole context of the game
Speaker 9: for us, especially the way that we're playing right now
Speaker 9: trying to win games. It's unfortunate that that an umpire
Speaker 9: can change the then narrative of a game and a series.
Speaker 2: All Right, there's Miguel Rojas on sports net LA explaining
Speaker 2: what took place after the obstruction call was made, and
Speaker 2: that was a very very interesting relay for Miguel Rojas
Speaker 2: and how Hunter Wendell Stature said, you know what, you
Speaker 2: guys voted for it really that's the response and no
Speaker 2: explanation there, and Dave Roberts never really got one either,
Speaker 2: So very interesting things that transpired there at third base
Speaker 2: in the sixth inning tonight and turned into a wild
Speaker 2: inning where the Philly scored five runs, capped off on
Speaker 2: a Kyle Schwarber three run home run. Schwarber very comfortable
Speaker 2: at the plate tonight, three home runs, four for four
Speaker 2: with seven RBIs. You gotta at least move his feet.
Speaker 2: You can't just let a guy that is swinging and
Speaker 2: hurting you multiple times in the same game just feel
Speaker 2: comfortable that no pitches are going to come inside. You
Speaker 2: gotta move the feet at the very least. And to
Speaker 2: me in the ninth inning when he steps to the
Speaker 2: plate and after the antics from Matt Strom hitting Gavin
Speaker 2: Lux and Nick Castianos screaming at Michael Grove. If I'm
Speaker 2: Michael Grove, I'm hitting Kyle Schwarber, or at the very least,
Speaker 2: I'm going to Joe Kelly Route and pitching inside and
Speaker 2: not caring if I hit him. Eight six six ninety
Speaker 2: seven two five seventy is the phone number. Let's go
Speaker 2: out to PORTWAANIMI, Garrett, you're on Dodger Talk. How you doing, Garrett?
Speaker 6: Hey, David, you know it could be better, probably not
Speaker 6: much different than you and everybody else tonight. But there's
Speaker 6: two points real quick. You know, I've done twenty seven
Speaker 6: years in the service and in the Navy, and you
Speaker 6: really really need to look in the mirror a lot
Speaker 6: of these times, a lot of these players, and I
Speaker 6: think you put nail on the head with nobody did anything.
Speaker 6: Lux is the quick kit tin cushion like that was
Speaker 6: really good, But really you're only as good as your battalion,
Speaker 6: the guys. Then next to you your leader, and I
Speaker 6: just don't see a clear chain of command of who's
Speaker 6: running the ship right now in the Dugout. I'm not
Speaker 6: talking about Dave. The players have to manage themselves when
Speaker 6: they're out there playing, and they didn't do it tonight.
Speaker 6: And secondly, there's a lot of This might trigger a
Speaker 6: lot of people, but I see a lot of the
Speaker 6: Clippers in the Dodgers day like top the.
Speaker 2: Ball, Gary, you just hit right there.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 6: But I want to stir up some conversation because every
Speaker 6: year we're in the conversation of is this the year
Speaker 6: the lineup and the team is built to win. They
Speaker 6: have a good manager, they have a good organizational leadership,
Speaker 6: they have them under the stund but something every year
Speaker 6: bites them in the bus and it's always injuries get
Speaker 6: us at the wrong time, and then it's just when
Speaker 6: the lights are brightest, we kind of fade.
Speaker 5: And I think you.
Speaker 6: Called it going into the series, this is a litmus test,
Speaker 6: and we failed. We got devote they yanked our chain,
Speaker 6: they took it, and they walked away. We did nothing
Speaker 6: about it. And I just hope that this is the
Speaker 6: catalyst to changing it. By the end of the season,
Speaker 6: usually everyone goes, Oh, this is the win that's going
Speaker 6: to change it for us. I think this is the
Speaker 6: series that we got our butts kicked. That is finally
Speaker 6: going to wait these tuits up. I'll take your answer
Speaker 6: off air. But the Clipper thing, it's just so real
Speaker 6: right now, it feels terrible.
Speaker 2: I love I love your service in the Navy, Garrett,
Speaker 2: But man, I don't agree with that comparison. But I
Speaker 2: agree with you. You're only as good as the guy
Speaker 2: standing next to you. And you know I love all
Speaker 2: those guys in that clubhouse. I care a lot, but
Speaker 2: I don't know. People ask me all the time, who's
Speaker 2: the leader of that team when things are down? If
Speaker 2: the Dodgers are down two in a series, who are
Speaker 2: the leaders to really set the tone? And I can't
Speaker 2: tell you who that is, Garrett. I can't tell you
Speaker 2: who those leaders are because I haven't really seen a
Speaker 2: guy stand out. I can't tell you who the two
Speaker 2: or three leaders on that team is right now. I
Speaker 2: really can't. I'm not sure they have that distinctive. I
Speaker 2: could tell you Kyle Schwarber is the leader of the Phillies.
Speaker 2: I could tell you that Bryce Harper is right with them.
Speaker 2: I could tell you J. T. Real Mudo and Nick Castianos.
Speaker 2: They all share the same vision and they all have
Speaker 2: each other's backs. I know the Dodgers have each other's backs,
Speaker 2: but I can't tell you who the distinctive two or
Speaker 2: three leaders are on this team.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think that maybe I should have had
Speaker 6: with that. Maybe it was like I think, like Paul
Speaker 6: George is somebody who's like Freddie Freeman, like mister steady,
Speaker 6: kind of calm, like laughs, but you know, very sentimental
Speaker 6: guy has feelings like we love that. But what we
Speaker 6: don't need another Paul George and Kawhi. We need, we
Speaker 6: need somebody to be run our test. We need that guy.
Speaker 6: And I think like I was hopeful.
Speaker 2: That or how about or how about Shaquille O'Neal or
Speaker 2: Ron Harper, any of them? Or how about forget about
Speaker 2: basketball analogies, how about Chase Suttley.
Speaker 6: Miss that guy. I hope he's still down the Org,
Speaker 6: and I hope he goes down there and knock somebody
Speaker 6: upside the head to wake him up.
Speaker 2: How about David Freeze in eighteen, You know those guys
Speaker 2: were Kershaw was that guy when he was around and
Speaker 2: starting the season. He's an injured player just coming back
Speaker 2: obviously has the respect of everybody, but he leads by example.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure who's the guys that are a little
Speaker 2: bit more vocal. I still, I mean, and I've been
Speaker 2: around this team a lot. I'm not sure who that is.
Speaker 2: Maybe somebody will tell me when I see them on
Speaker 2: Friday after hearing this. Thanks for the phone call, Thanks
Speaker 2: for your SERVI eight six six seven two five seventy
Speaker 2: is the phone number. Look, I can't tell you who
Speaker 2: that leader is. I know ta Oscar Hernandez has been
Speaker 2: a very good teammate. Is that there's a difference though,
Speaker 2: between a really good teammate and a leader of a team.
Speaker 2: Like I said, guys that cover Philadelphia, that are around Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: It's very clear who the leaders are on that team.
Speaker 2: And tonight one of them had a big game and
Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber three home runs seven RBIs Nick Castianos you
Speaker 2: know he's He's one of those guys that's very vocal,
Speaker 2: sets a tone with a lot of edge. I can't
Speaker 2: tell you who that is. And honestly, Key k Hernandez
Speaker 2: was on the pregame show a couple of days ago.
Speaker 2: He's actually a guy that I like because he makes
Speaker 2: others feel a little uncomfortable because of his edge. He
Speaker 2: does it in a different way. He approaches the game
Speaker 2: much differently, but at times he makes guys uncomfortable and
Speaker 2: he wants to win and he wants to play. So
Speaker 2: I know sometimes he could rub people the wrong way.
Speaker 2: He doesn't rub me the wrong way. Eight six six
Speaker 2: ninety eighty seven two five seventy is the phone number.
Speaker 2: And say what you will about Max Muncie. You know
Speaker 2: he's not taken that from Matt Strom. I can guarantee
Speaker 2: you that. Let's go out to downtown. Manny. You're on
Speaker 2: Dodger Talk. How you doing, Dave.
Speaker 11: I'm upset, man, I'm not loving what I'm watching right now.
Speaker 11: This product that they're.
Speaker 7: Putting out there.
Speaker 11: It's they're missing a dog. They don't have that dog mentality.
Speaker 11: Like just like I agreed with so many of the
Speaker 11: callers tonight, you can't. And I'm a big Roberts like,
Speaker 11: you know, I'll admit it, I'm one of the biggest
Speaker 11: Roberts haters out there. But tonight I was so proud
Speaker 11: to see him just at least bite the bullet and
Speaker 11: say something has to give and then come to eighth
Speaker 11: inning or sixth inning.
Speaker 5: Whatever it was.
Speaker 11: No one stepped up to the plate, Gavin lust nobody
Speaker 11: is just we need someone out there to get to
Speaker 11: make people feel uncomfortab.
Speaker 3: Loved what Rojas said earlier.
Speaker 11: I mean, something's got to give soon, because you know
Speaker 11: they're getting They got straight up bullied today at Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 5: Schorebert was in there.
Speaker 11: He looked like Big Mike Tyson. He was just knocking
Speaker 11: balls out. I'm just concerned about what happens next after
Speaker 11: a meltdown like this. I know probably this is probably
Speaker 11: the lowist that I feel that this team has been
Speaker 11: because they got smacked around at home, and it's just
Speaker 11: it's just an.
Speaker 2: This is the organization of Tommy Lasorda. Do you think
Speaker 2: Tommy Lasorda would accept that from his players back and
Speaker 2: down like they did tonight. No way, no chance, No chance, man,
Speaker 2: no chance.
Speaker 11: He's he's grimacing up from Dodger Blue Heaven. And I
Speaker 11: always tell my brother, and you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 11: mention Tommy, since you brought it up, David, I'll end
Speaker 11: it with this. Tommy turned around game six, looked at
Speaker 11: David Roberts and said, you haven't won nothing until you
Speaker 11: win game seven. And I know that's a different conversation.
Speaker 11: But it's true. This ain't over until it's over. But
Speaker 11: the Dodgers have to show some dog. So what's something
Speaker 11: passive game in that clubhouse?
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Manny. You could get Max Munsey back,
Speaker 2: you can get Mookie Beds back. But they got to
Speaker 2: show a little bit more edge, that's for sure. Eight
Speaker 2: six six ninety seven two five seventy is the phone
Speaker 2: number I want to get to Ruben and JD. So
Speaker 2: just to get both of them on at the same time,
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring on JD from Corona and Rubin
Speaker 2: in Santa Maria. Uh, say hi to each other. Guys,
Speaker 2: how you doing, Thanks for calling Dodger Talk.
Speaker 5: Hey, Hey, how you doing, buddy? Let's go it on.
Speaker 2: Why don't you guys share it? Okay, Rubin and Santa Maria,
Speaker 2: why don't you share your feelings with JD and Corona
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 12: I just wanted to say, David, I love your rant,
Speaker 12: this your opening rant this evening on the Dodgers.
Speaker 2: Ran was a passionate plea.
Speaker 12: No, absolutely, And usually you're a little bit passive and
Speaker 12: you're quiet, But man, I like the fire. I wish
Speaker 12: the Dodgers could show some fire like that today. And man,
Speaker 12: my heart was just boiling this evening after that loss.
Speaker 12: And I'm gonna go back to this one car.
Speaker 2: All right, Rubin? All right, hold on for a second.
Speaker 2: You said enough for a second. Give JD in a
Speaker 2: Corona a chance. JD, what do you want to say
Speaker 2: to Rubin?
Speaker 7: I'm so frustrated on the verge of tears.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 7: I love this team so much. I was actually at
Speaker 7: the game last night, and I have two things, or
Speaker 7: maybe even three that I want to address really quick.
Speaker 7: Number one, the starting pitching of this team for the
Speaker 7: past two months has been abysmal. I know we've had injuries,
Speaker 7: but we can't keep using that as an excuse to
Speaker 7: why are the majority of our starters can't even finish
Speaker 7: five innings? And then attaches our bullpen and then by
Speaker 7: the time the bullpen gives up a home run because
Speaker 7: we don't know who to put in it at the
Speaker 7: right time or whatever it is, the offense just gives
Speaker 7: up and it's like Rinson repeat every other game. It's like,
Speaker 7: do you agree with that?
Speaker 4: Ruben?
Speaker 2: Do you feel like JD's on point? Do you agree
Speaker 2: with that?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Pretty much? And I and it just just to
Speaker 5: get off our subject real quick.
Speaker 2: But we don't want you to get off subject. We
Speaker 2: want you to stay on subject. That's how conversation happens. Ruben.
Speaker 12: It's pertaining to Roberts because you guys said, I don't
Speaker 12: know who the leader is.
Speaker 5: Who's the lead. It's Roberts, Roberts's.
Speaker 2: But do you remember Joe Torre used to talk about
Speaker 2: how Derek, Jeter, Posada, Andy Pettitt all those guys did
Speaker 2: a great job for him leading in the clubhouse. You
Speaker 2: need that as well, Ruben. It just can't be the manager.
Speaker 2: Didn't you hear a guy from the Baby that said.
Speaker 12: That Tommy with Tommy Lasorda go for what the how
Speaker 12: these Dodgers are playing?
Speaker 7: No, he wouldn't.
Speaker 5: He would step in, he would get in somebody's face.
Speaker 5: Dave don't do that. Hey, that's not his.
Speaker 12: Style to understand, But it's it falls on the skipper,
Speaker 12: the skipper, in my opinion, I could.
Speaker 2: Be right, all right, Rubin. I appreciate your phone call, JD.
Speaker 2: I apologize Rubin didn't want to play ball with you,
Speaker 2: but I feel like you made some good points as well.
Speaker 2: And Rubin, I appreciate everything you said as well. JD.
Speaker 2: Just to leave you with this. As far as starting
Speaker 2: pitching goes, in the last eleven games, starters have basically
Speaker 2: only pitched one hundred and thirty six innings, while the
Speaker 2: relievers have almost pitched the same one hundred and twenty three.
Speaker 2: So that just tells the story right there to everything
Speaker 2: you were describing. Yeah, Dwayne wants to go home. I
Speaker 2: don't know how many one more things I can do.
Speaker 7: This is a really uh point. This is a point
Speaker 7: I just want to point out. And I know that
Speaker 7: as fans we get really starstruck over the players that
Speaker 7: we have, like a show Heyo Tani and Will Smith
Speaker 7: and all that stuff. And the thing that's frustrating me
Speaker 7: other than the pitching, is just hitting in the clutch,
Speaker 7: runners in scoring position. Like I have these numbers here
Speaker 7: show Heyo Tani, right, that's our seven hundred million dollar man.
Speaker 7: Last night and tonight. There's been situations where he's at
Speaker 7: the plate. We got multiple guys on. It could change
Speaker 7: the entirement of the game with runners in scoring positions.
Speaker 7: Show he is hitting two forty three this season.
Speaker 5: I agree he's loaded.
Speaker 2: I agree he's trying to do too much. He's trying
Speaker 2: to do too much in those situations. JD, thanks a
Speaker 2: lot for the phone call. It was awesome talking to you.
Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed talking to Ruben as well.
Speaker 5: Have a good deal.
Speaker 7: I mean he wasn't on board. Yeah, but thank you
Speaker 7: so much for taking my call. Man, love your takes.
Speaker 7: I honestly loved you grilling into the team thing and
Speaker 7: needs a dog. Absolutely agree with that this team needs
Speaker 7: a dog and we just need to change the mentality shift.
Speaker 2: All right, JD and Corona Rubin have a great night.
Speaker 2: Call back anytime. Thanks, good eating, all right, good evening
Speaker 2: to you guys. Now. Tomorrow the Dodgers have a much
Speaker 2: needed day off, but yours truly does not. Petros Papadekas
Speaker 2: has begged me to fill in for Matt money Smith tomorrow,
Speaker 2: So Petros and I will be doing afternoon drive in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles together as I fill in for mister charger
Speaker 2: Matt money Smith. Petros and I will actually be broadcasting
Speaker 2: from Dodgers Stadium tomorrow three to six pm from the
Speaker 2: Dodgers All Access event, So we'll have some of the
Speaker 2: former Dodgers that are in town for alumni weekend on
Speaker 2: the show and we'll get into the Dodgers' decision for
Speaker 2: now to have show a Otani remain as the leadoff
Speaker 2: hitter despite Mookie Betts having an MVP type of season
Speaker 2: as their leadoff hitter. So we'll get into that tomorrow
Speaker 2: and I'm sure we'll talk more about this about the
Speaker 2: way the Dodgers were very passive in the eighth inning tonight.
Speaker 2: So three to six with Petros tomorrow from Dodgers Stadium. Friday,
Speaker 2: Jack Flaherty is going to make his Dodger Stadium debut
Speaker 2: wearing Dodger blue. I'm sure that will be a great
Speaker 2: night for him, his family and friends, obviously from Burbank
Speaker 2: Harvard Westlake High School. It will be great to see
Speaker 2: Jack Flaherty pitching here at Dodgers Stadium. He's eight and
Speaker 2: five this year to eighty e r. He pitched six
Speaker 2: scoreless innings in his Dodger debut in Oakland, so he'll
Speaker 2: be looking to build upon that against the Pirates. The
Speaker 2: Dodgers need another great start from Flarerty. Hopefully he can
Speaker 2: do it again. Morongo Casino Dodgers on Deck begins at
Speaker 2: six o'clock, with first pitch from Dodgers Stadium at seven
Speaker 2: ten to kick off Alumni weekend. We're looking forward to
Speaker 2: celebrating Walter O'Malley, Dusty Baker, and Mag Kemp specifically starting
Speaker 2: on Friday night. Love all those men, especially Dusty and
Speaker 2: Matt Kemp. Those guys left it all out on the
Speaker 2: field for the Dodgers. Thanks to calling me back at
Speaker 2: our Burbank studios. Thanks to Dwayne McDonald, who does not
Speaker 2: want last call or one more call he wants to
Speaker 2: say good night. I would stay here until one am
Speaker 2: with you if it wasn't for Dwayne. But I'll be
Speaker 2: back tomorrow at three o'clock with Petros Papadakis coming up next.
Speaker 2: Yeah him. Ben Maller on Fox Sports Radio once again.
Speaker 2: The final score tonight from Dodgers Stadium. The Fighting Phils
Speaker 2: beat the Dodgers nine to four. Have a great rest
Speaker 2: of your night see them just chart to play