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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, Hey guys, Welcome to episode thirty four, Episode

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four of The Strange Thing Podcast. I am Mike

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Austin, and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Are in the Stranges Ze.

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<v Speaker 1>I went for Didgerido.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh wow, I thought that was pretty cool. Speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of pretty cool, Okay, there is something that we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do this next week that is very cool, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I thought, let's do a little bit of ground

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<v Speaker 2>bedrock lane.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's lay that, Let's lay it, lay down the foundation.

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<v Speaker 2>The foundation of what we're gonna do. So we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>take a little jaunt into the paranormal. Yeah, we like

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<v Speaker 2>the paranormal. Well, I don't know if we like it,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're intrigued by the paranormal. So we are going

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<v Speaker 2>to go on a paranormal adventure at a known and

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<v Speaker 2>reputable haunted site. REI ro Yes. Here in Idaho, in Boise,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the state capitol, there is an old penitentiary

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<v Speaker 2>that is no longer in service. It's called the Old

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<v Speaker 2>State Penitentiary. Yeah, yeah, and right now. It's a historical

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<v Speaker 2>building ran by the Idaho Historical Society. Sweet, it's open

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<v Speaker 2>for tours and things like that. I toured it in

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<v Speaker 2>Junior High. I think it's a pretty cool place. It's

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<v Speaker 2>all made of stone. I think it was made in

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<v Speaker 2>like probably in the eighteen sixties, but it opened in

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen seventy two.

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<v Speaker 1>That's old.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when it started taking prisoners, and it had a

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<v Speaker 2>long history of incarcerating individual and over that one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and one years of service, there were eleven executions. Thanks. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>there were hundreds of deaths there. Some of them were

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<v Speaker 2>you know, old age or accidents or heart attacks, you

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<v Speaker 2>know whatever, but eleven executions happened.

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<v Speaker 1>There some bad guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go too deep into all of

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<v Speaker 2>the executions and stuff because this is more of an introduction,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we said, it's bedrock, but I did want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So, and this happened to be the very last execution

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<v Speaker 2>at the Idaho State Penitentiary, at the old site.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So this was number eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>Number eleven. This is the last one before they closed

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<v Speaker 2>down that whole thing. And it was death by hanging

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<v Speaker 2>and it was you know, like the trapdoor kind of

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<v Speaker 2>thing where they pulled a lever, the trap door comes

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<v Speaker 2>out and the body falls through and it breaks the

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<v Speaker 2>neck and they're dead short stop it yeah, sudden drop. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>our lucky recipient of death by hanging was a man

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<v Speaker 2>known by Noah. Their name then Raymond Snowden, Raymond SnO

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<v Speaker 2>Raymond Snowden, otherwise known as Idaho's Jack the Ripper. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he was not a very nice guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So it sounds like it. No, it's killed and rape prostitutes. No.

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<v Speaker 2>The lady's name that was killed was Cora Dean. Cora

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<v Speaker 2>and her husband had recently died within like six months,

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<v Speaker 2>and to not be alone and to have something to do,

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<v Speaker 2>she would go out to different bars or nightclubs and

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<v Speaker 2>gamble and do things just to have a life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what year was this?

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<v Speaker 2>This is in nineteen fifty six. Okay, So Cora Dean

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<v Speaker 2>decides she's going to go out one night and she

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<v Speaker 2>goes down to the High Ho Club.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, she's gonna go bebop down at the High.

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<v Speaker 2>Hoe High Ho, High Ho. It's don to the club,

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<v Speaker 2>I go, yeah, yeah exactly. So she goes down there

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<v Speaker 2>and little did she know it would be her last

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<v Speaker 2>night of life. So she goes to the club and

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<v Speaker 2>apparently she meets this in Snowden and I guess he's

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<v Speaker 2>trying to you know, put the moves on or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Eventually kind of migrates to the alley out back of

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<v Speaker 2>the High Home Club. Okay, yep, and that's where the

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<v Speaker 2>dastardly deed took place. He propositions her, She says no,

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<v Speaker 2>rejects his advances.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a little baby, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Says, well, you make a choice. Either you let me

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<v Speaker 2>rape you or I am going to slit your throat.

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<v Speaker 2>She promptly kicks him in the groin. Nice, yes, him that,

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<v Speaker 2>but that infuriates him, of course, so he ends up

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<v Speaker 2>slitting her throat so deeply that it severs her spinal cord.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he proceeds to stab her twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Times that way too many.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So then he runs off and apparently he runs

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<v Speaker 2>to a nearby cigar shop, and he discards the knife

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<v Speaker 2>into the gutter outside the cigar shop, runs into the

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<v Speaker 2>bathroom without anybody really even able to you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>slow him down or stop him.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in nineteen fifty whatever, they didn't have cameras

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<v Speaker 1>on the right corner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no cameras. So he runs in there. He's in

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<v Speaker 2>there for like thirty minutes in.

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<v Speaker 1>The bathroom, probably near mind, he's trying to wash up.

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<v Speaker 2>He's cleaning up. I mean you can imagine there was

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<v Speaker 2>blood spray everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The witness of the people at the cigar shop, along

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<v Speaker 2>with finding the murder weapon in the gutter in the gutter,

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<v Speaker 2>is what did him in. So he was convicted. He

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<v Speaker 2>was put on death row. Fast forward. Finally his time

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<v Speaker 2>has come and they marched him down to the hangman's

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<v Speaker 2>news And as he's standing there on the trap door,

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<v Speaker 2>they placed the noose over his neck and the hangman

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<v Speaker 2>pulls the lever and he falls and I guess the

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<v Speaker 2>height was miscalculated because it doesn't snap his neck. He's chunk.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a new system. It was like the first

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<v Speaker 2>time it was used for an actual hanging. And there

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<v Speaker 2>was like a viewing pane of glass where the family

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<v Speaker 2>members and stuff could watch the hanging take place of

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<v Speaker 2>the victim. Right, And when the trap door slung down

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<v Speaker 2>and he fell through the force made the thing shake.

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<v Speaker 2>It shattered the window. Whoa, yeah, correct, so the glass

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<v Speaker 2>went everywhere and then it didn't break his neck. He

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<v Speaker 2>hung there and kicked for like sixteen minutes before he died.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and bad things happened to your body. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>when you're hanging and dying, like all your bodily functions.

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<v Speaker 1>Release makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there was a big mess and he was

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<v Speaker 2>twitching and jerking and slopping things around. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>bad deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Gross ye piece of shit.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, that was the last execution that took place

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<v Speaker 2>in the Old Idaho Penitentiary.

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<v Speaker 1>Now pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Since then, because it's a national historical building, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people have gone there knowing about some of these,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, really dramatic events, and they had looked for ghosts,

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<v Speaker 2>and many people leave that the penitentiary is haunted by

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<v Speaker 2>the ghost of Raymond Snowden, and apparently he's manifested to people.

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<v Speaker 2>He's you know, spoken through EVPs or whatever that his

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<v Speaker 2>name is Raymond Snowden, and anyway, supposedly he has made contact.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's one of the ghosts that maybe we will

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<v Speaker 2>get to encounter as we go to the Old Idaho

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<v Speaker 2>Penitentiary and join this paranormal investigation. It starts at like

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<v Speaker 2>nine in the evening. You go there as the sun

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<v Speaker 2>going down. They divide you in teams and you go

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<v Speaker 2>around to every building on the entire penitentiary side, which

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<v Speaker 2>is I think five hundred and one acres. Dang, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's big. But since then they divided a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>that off that wasn't surrounded by walls, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>now the Idaho Botanical Garden.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. Yeah, I told you it was big.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is big.

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<v Speaker 1>I toured it in high school. I want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>my angry story. It's almost as bad as this Raymonds.

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<v Speaker 2>N Yeah, I want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>I went there in junior high. Yeah, and I remember

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<v Speaker 1>who I rode with. I'm not going to mention their names.

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<v Speaker 1>When we got there, we did the whole tour thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They had like a lunch break, so we just found

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<v Speaker 1>like this spot to eat lunch, like on the grassy area.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like some stairs and stuff. And I was drinking

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<v Speaker 1>sunny d and my friend I was eating lunch with

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<v Speaker 1>made a joke and I took a drink and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I like, you know, laughed and spitch and the dad

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<v Speaker 1>came over and came over and chewed me out about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, you have no respect for people. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a prison, so no, I don't have respect. And

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<v Speaker 1>two it's an accident and I'm in junior high.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's pretty traumatic.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be tall, but you are not strong young man.

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<v Speaker 2>That is almost on the same part as getting your

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<v Speaker 2>next lift open.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say so.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, was Austin's idea to go to the Idaho Penitentiary because.

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<v Speaker 1>I had been there and I had this traumatic experience

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<v Speaker 1>about the sunny d We all heard about that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing it on like Ghostbusters.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been it's been on like the Travel Channel thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been on all these paranormal sites because it's very

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<v Speaker 2>well known that there is paranormal activity there. Right, So

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<v Speaker 2>this outfit that we're going to go with is called

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<v Speaker 2>Big River Paranormal. We're not paranormal investigators, No, we investigate paranormal.

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<v Speaker 1>And we start abnormal people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but we don't do it on a daily base.

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<v Speaker 1>On our gig. And it sounds like they were at

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<v Speaker 1>Milner's Gate and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>They weren't at Milner's Gate, but they were at the

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<v Speaker 2>Tuberculosis hospital in Gooding.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, Yeah, which for those of you who remember,

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe haven't remembered because you haven't listened to it

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<v Speaker 3>yet are I think it was Our fourth and fifth

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<v Speaker 3>and sixth episodes all dealt.

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<v Speaker 2>With strange things. At strange locations, and that included Milner's Gate,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a haunted building in Twin Falls, Idaho.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a brewery, bar, pubby place, super good tuna tower.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really good. Okay, we have this apparition that's

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<v Speaker 2>appearing at Milner's Gate, not only at Milner's Gate, but

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<v Speaker 2>apparently forty years ago with Brian and worldwide. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>this is one of the weird things. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about different apparitions later, but we're going to try

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<v Speaker 2>to focus in on the weird things going on at

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<v Speaker 2>Milner's Gate because I think that gives us a launch

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<v Speaker 2>pad on the kind of apparitions that maybe we can

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<v Speaker 2>discuss later, especially if we combine Milner's Gate with our

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<v Speaker 2>next episode, which will be about the sanitarium and Goodie

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<v Speaker 2>and Idaho the tuberculosis hospital. So because they're different kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of they're different kinds of apparitions, right. So anyway, now

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<v Speaker 2>let's go on to our next story, which is another

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<v Speaker 2>story about an experience. It's vocalized by one of the

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<v Speaker 2>employees at Milner's Gate, and let's listen to what she

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<v Speaker 1>So, one of the employees at Milner's Gate is having

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<v Speaker 1>this experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one of the employees had Brian record this story.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and this is something that happened to this employee, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, cool. They're not just like telling a story

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<v Speaker 1>they heard there.

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<v Speaker 2>No, this is an experience she had at Millner's Gate.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh cool, All right, let's rolls into it.

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<v Speaker 4>My name is osmunld'penya. I am one of the managers

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<v Speaker 4>here at Milner's Gate, and since I started working here,

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<v Speaker 4>I've actually had a lot of paranormal experiences here. I

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<v Speaker 4>And I started about a month or two after I

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<v Speaker 4>after reopened. When I started working here, I started hearing

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<v Speaker 4>noises downstairs, like loud, like it sounded like furniture being

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<v Speaker 4>by yourself. So it was kind of self I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it was kind of gratifying when the video came out

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<v Speaker 4>with the barstools being moved around, because it confirmed for

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<v Speaker 4>me that I wasn't actually hearing things that there seriously

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<v Speaker 4>was furniture being moved around downstairs. There was another irricasion

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<v Speaker 4>when I went down the stairs to lock some of

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<v Speaker 4>loudest sound like a cage door being slammed shoved. It

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<v Speaker 4>was so loud and it's scared the living daylights out

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<v Speaker 4>of me. There is no cage doors in that room.

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<v Speaker 4>I cannot figure out to this day what in the

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<v Speaker 4>to my ear, there was no imagining that. I've also

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<v Speaker 4>we've seen we have candle holders that are actually stemless

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<v Speaker 4>wine glasses, and we put the candles in side of

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<v Speaker 4>them twice. Now those things have it seems like they

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<v Speaker 4>fly off the walls and go crashing down. It's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of crazy, but yeah, those are some of the experiences

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<v Speaker 2>And then in Goodie and Idaho, we went to the

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<v Speaker 2>Tuberculosis Hospital, which was a sanitarium. It was also before anything.

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<v Speaker 2>It was actually built as a college. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 2>when the tuberculosis hospital needed to happen, they converted it

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<v Speaker 2>into the hospital and yeah, so we went there and

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<v Speaker 2>that was very interesting. These guys Big River Paranormal They

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<v Speaker 2>have done investigations at the same place that we actually investigated.

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<v Speaker 1>They probably did a much better job.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure, because we were Greenhorns and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Got scared by a katy kat I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but don't give it away. Don't give it away. Now.

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<v Speaker 5>This is Mike and I am on my way to

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<v Speaker 5>a haunted place, supposedly haunted place, Goodie and Idaho.

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<v Speaker 6>It's October twenty first, Well, actually it's October twenty second,

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<v Speaker 6>because it's twelve fifteen am. I am coming from a

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<v Speaker 6>law Brian showed me around a really cool renovation on

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<v Speaker 6>university inn hotel. I stopped there earlier today, well yesterday,

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<v Speaker 6>and I got a reservation. The lady said that they

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<v Speaker 6>usually don't have reservations on Mondays and that I was

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<v Speaker 6>welcome to stay, but I would be the only person

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<v Speaker 5>I'm kind of excited about that.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to go there, and there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>history of hauntings and apparitions and things like that, a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of coverage on like ghost Hunters coming trying to

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<v Speaker 2>Supposedly has a long history.

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<v Speaker 5>Of people that have died.

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<v Speaker 6>I haven't been able to find any statistics or anything,

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<v Speaker 6>so I don't know if that even exists. But it

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't really matter because I'm just going there to check

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<v Speaker 5>So hopefully it'll be fun.

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<v Speaker 6>Hopefully I'll experience something exciting, and if not, well then

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<v Speaker 6>at least i'll experience the sites and sounds of a

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<v Speaker 2>Well, with that, mic out, these guys at Big River

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<v Speaker 2>Paranormal are professionals. We actually have an advantage because when

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<v Speaker 2>we know that we're not professionals.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely know I'm not professional.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not professionals. We don't investigate for a liv and

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<v Speaker 2>we don't pretend to we are hacks. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>that gives us a special perspective because we're not looking

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<v Speaker 2>at it through the lenses of some preconceived notions, not jaded.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just there to experience and then try to quantify

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<v Speaker 2>that through the strata of our intellectual prowess.

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<v Speaker 1>You should see what he's doing with his hands right now,

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<v Speaker 1>as he said that, it was like jazz fingers mixed

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<v Speaker 1>with magic and.

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<v Speaker 2>Rain, Dude, rain, You know, I think that we actually

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<v Speaker 2>have some pretty good hypothesize. One thing about the Old

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<v Speaker 2>Idaho State Penitentiary is that it's well known that it's haunted, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and so a lot of media outlets locally and regionally

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<v Speaker 2>do like little exposition and like you said, travel Channel

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<v Speaker 2>people have been there and done things on it. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to play some of those clips nice.

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<v Speaker 7>Next time on Ghost Adventures, we travel to Noisy, Idaho

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<v Speaker 7>to investigate this penitentiary.

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<v Speaker 2>You're all saying it here twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you the one causing all this torment?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry that you died of here, that we heard

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<v Speaker 6>some bad stuff happen in this If you can hear

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<v Speaker 6>my voice, I want you to make a noise.

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<v Speaker 2>We tho. I feel something that's going up my shoulder.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you touching me right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Raymond?

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<v Speaker 2>Think of all the history of all the people that

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<v Speaker 2>have come through here.

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<v Speaker 8>The Old I don't penitentiary was opened between eighteen seventy

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<v Speaker 8>two and nineteen seventy three. When people come here, they

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<v Speaker 8>get that heavy feeling, that sense that sometimes they're being watched,

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<v Speaker 8>sometimes that they just sense sadness. And of course we're

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<v Speaker 8>bringing those stories to light all of the time through

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<v Speaker 8>the history that we tell.

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<v Speaker 1>The last time I was here, I believe I saw

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<v Speaker 1>your shadow. Can you show me again?

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<v Speaker 8>So we also encourage people come on down share your

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<v Speaker 8>stories of paranormal experiences with us. Because there was violence,

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<v Speaker 8>there was death and destruction for Raymond. Here's a really

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<v Speaker 8>nasty crime.

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<v Speaker 1>There were around one hundred and thirty deaths that occurred

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<v Speaker 1>here at the site, everything from the ten folks who

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<v Speaker 1>were executed, to murder, suicide, diseases, natural deaths.

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<v Speaker 8>You see the remnants of the past. You see these

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<v Speaker 8>buildings that were burned down and destroyed. No, we didn't

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<v Speaker 8>let them go as the historical society. We kept them

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<v Speaker 8>in the context of what happened here. And so that's

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<v Speaker 8>why we're not going to rebuild these buildings because they

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<v Speaker 8>tell a story.

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<v Speaker 9>This Halloween, we're taking you behind bars at one of

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<v Speaker 9>the spookiest spots in the state. Although the old Idaho

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<v Speaker 9>Penitentiary has been closed for almost fifty years, some say

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<v Speaker 9>inmates still haunt the halls. Our Doug Locksmith and Matt

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<v Speaker 9>Sizemore tagged along with paranormal investigators into the wee hours

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<v Speaker 9>of the morning, hoping to see some proof for themselves.

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<v Speaker 9>A warning, some of the sites and stories we'll see

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<v Speaker 9>might be a little spooky, and some Matt says are

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<v Speaker 9>absolutely ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that was pretty cool about the

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<v Speaker 2>Old Idaho State Penitentiary was they had several famous inmates,

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<v Speaker 2>including women.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, it was like a not bisexual.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's not by sex co ed. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>co ed I think. And originally it did not have

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<v Speaker 2>separations between male and female areas of incarceration, which caused

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<v Speaker 2>some shenanigans. So eventually they actually made a women's wing.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a really cool mansion there, oh, I guess the

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<v Speaker 2>prison mansion, and they used that as a place to

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<v Speaker 2>incarcerate the women until they could get the wing that

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<v Speaker 2>was dedicated to women built. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Down the line of famous inmates, there is a very

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<v Speaker 2>famous female inmate that was incarcerated at the Old Idaho

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<v Speaker 2>State Penitentiary in nineteen twenty one. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So this gal's name was Leita south Lida Southard, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was a female serial killer. And she was

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<v Speaker 2>a female serial killer.

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<v Speaker 1>That's two for two. That's funny. Maybe that's Ulida or

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<v Speaker 1>Lieda or Lida or whatever contacting you from the beyond.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to tell us something. Yeah. Maybe she's saying, I'm listening,

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<v Speaker 2>you better get the story right, Yeah, I don't know. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So a little bit about Lda Southard. So she lived

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<v Speaker 2>in a town where I was born, actually in Twin Falls, Idaho.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice.

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<v Speaker 2>And she met this ruggedly handsome dude named Robert Dooley.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Robert Newley, Bob Newley.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, So Robert Dooley and Lighta Southard. They got hitched,

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<v Speaker 2>and after they got hitched, they moved in with Robert's

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<v Speaker 2>brother Ed, Ed and Bob Newley and they had paradise

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<v Speaker 2>there on earth, just Robert and and Ed. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>about nine months later they had a daughter named Lorraine.

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<v Speaker 1>Convenient.

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<v Speaker 2>But one day, a sad tale, Lorraine mysteriously dies and

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<v Speaker 2>they can't quite figure out why. But Leida insists that

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<v Speaker 2>she drinks some really bad well water and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>killed her, you know, a young kid drinking bad water, not.

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<v Speaker 1>A good common probably in nineteen whatever whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, four so then a little after that, Ed, poor Ed,

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<v Speaker 2>mister Ed dies mysteriously and they, yeah, the brother dies

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<v Speaker 2>and he dies of like some kind of weird poisoning.

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<v Speaker 2>He dies, right, So poor Robert lost his daughter, lost

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<v Speaker 2>his brother, and then he dies mysteriously, well not so mysteriously.

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<v Speaker 2>They diagnose it as typhoid and he dies. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>typhoid fever.

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<v Speaker 1>You've heard of that, right, yeah, Okay, it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>an illness.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a hack, I'm not a doctor. I don't know anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>So he dies in the historical documents say that it

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<v Speaker 2>was diagnosed that he died of typhoid. Okay, So twin

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<v Speaker 2>Falls County. Well, after that, she's sad. She is really

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<v Speaker 2>really sad. And La meets another dude eventually, and his

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<v Speaker 2>name was William or Bill mccaffell mccaffel mcaffel. Unfortunately, mccaffel

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<v Speaker 2>also died of typhoid. Yeah, he died in nineteen eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Robert died in nineteen fourteen, and you know, four years later,

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<v Speaker 2>poor Lighta is a widow again. Fortunately, just like with Robert,

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<v Speaker 2>there was an insurance policy and she was the only recipient. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so she was the beneficiary. She gets the loot. So

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<v Speaker 2>same thing with William, you know, poor Bill. He dies

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<v Speaker 2>and husband number two dies and Lida gets the goods. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so now she's depressed. Yeah, so she moves away. I

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<v Speaker 2>think she moves to Montana, mom Dan yep, and she

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<v Speaker 2>meets this guy, Harlan c Lewis. They get married, and then,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, poor guy, he dies mysteriously as well. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>no official diagnosis, but he dies in nineteen nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so one, two, three, this is number three. If

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<v Speaker 1>it was baseball, she'd be Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is three husbands in two in five years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yep, yep, plus two relatives.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, two relatives and three husbands.

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<v Speaker 1>Body count two relatives.

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<v Speaker 2>And she again is the beneficiary, the sole beneficiary of

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<v Speaker 2>another you know, life insurance policy. She's so sad. She

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<v Speaker 2>moves to Pocatello and she meets a guy, Edward Meyer.

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<v Speaker 2>But he mysteriously dies in nineteen twenty as well. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was also three. Yeah, that's the no,

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<v Speaker 2>that's number four oh in a row. Yeah, back to

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<v Speaker 2>back to she moves fast, and so he dies in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen twenty in Pocatello. So she's back in Idaho. Well, well,

424
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<v Speaker 2>the original husband, Robert Dooley, had a brother who was

425
00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:06.960
<v Speaker 2>very smart, and he happened to be a chemist, and

426
00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:09.720
<v Speaker 2>I think he saw these things happening and he started going, hey,

427
00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:11.640
<v Speaker 2>a little light belt goes off and has said, ding

428
00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:14.599
<v Speaker 2>ding ding ding ding, Something's not right here. So he

429
00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:19.240
<v Speaker 2>starts doing a little investigation with another chemist and a doctor. Okay,

430
00:24:19.839 --> 00:24:22.640
<v Speaker 2>and they exhume the bodies and they find that Edward

431
00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:27.759
<v Speaker 2>and Robert and Lorraine Dooley had traces of arsenic in

432
00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:33.480
<v Speaker 2>their system. So now they know something weird's going on.

433
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:38.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, poor lightis she's very very discouraged and sad,

434
00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:42.599
<v Speaker 2>and her really smart ex brother in law puts together,

435
00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:46.920
<v Speaker 2>along with a few other people, that there's something nefarious

436
00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:52.640
<v Speaker 2>going on, and so they consult the authorities and eventually

437
00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:58.359
<v Speaker 2>Lida is arrested in nineteen twenty one. Yep, she's arrested

438
00:24:58.519 --> 00:25:03.000
<v Speaker 2>and put in jail, and she is tried and she

439
00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:06.279
<v Speaker 2>has found guilty of second degree murder and she is

440
00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:08.880
<v Speaker 2>sentenced to ten years to life in prison.

441
00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:10.279
<v Speaker 1>She killed her own daughter.

442
00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and four. Yeah, and actually that husband in between

443
00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:17.240
<v Speaker 2>I think it was the one in Montana. I think

444
00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:20.680
<v Speaker 2>it was mcafel. They had a daughter together there that

445
00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:23.160
<v Speaker 2>was just an infant, and she mysteriously died too, So

446
00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:26.839
<v Speaker 2>there was actually two daughters that were killed by her.

447
00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:30.839
<v Speaker 1>I picture the brother of Dooley, the Dooley brother. He's

448
00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:34.279
<v Speaker 1>in like a science lab with like beakers and all

449
00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:36.279
<v Speaker 1>these things. Yeah, he's in like a coat with those

450
00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:40.079
<v Speaker 1>big science goggles on, and he like pours it in

451
00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:42.640
<v Speaker 1>and it like changes the right color and he holds

452
00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:45.359
<v Speaker 1>it up to the light and then he takes his

453
00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:50.279
<v Speaker 1>goggles off and he's like, bitch, just like that. I

454
00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:51.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know my picture.

455
00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Maybe something like that. I don't know if they use

456
00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:56.920
<v Speaker 2>that word in that day. Fine Wench thine wench. That

457
00:25:57.079 --> 00:26:00.920
<v Speaker 2>the fine Wench Carston woman. Yeah, so she's arrested, she's

458
00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:03.480
<v Speaker 2>sworn in prison. Okay, the story doesn't stop there. It's

459
00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:07.079
<v Speaker 2>very interesting story. So she's thrown in prison and then

460
00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:12.319
<v Speaker 2>she escapes. She escapes and runs back to Denver, Colorado.

461
00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:13.880
<v Speaker 1>She's a mountain one yep, yep, yep.

462
00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:18.880
<v Speaker 2>And there she marries another guy. Now this guy he

463
00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:21.319
<v Speaker 2>eventually kind of catches on the things. I don't know

464
00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:24.519
<v Speaker 2>how he finds out things, discovers stuff, but anyway, he

465
00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:27.640
<v Speaker 2>is suspicious and he turns her back in. So she

466
00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:31.200
<v Speaker 2>is carted back to Idaho and she serves out the

467
00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:35.279
<v Speaker 2>rest of her sentence. Eventually she is put on permanent

468
00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:38.960
<v Speaker 2>probation in nineteen forty one because she was only convicted

469
00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:42.640
<v Speaker 2>of second degree murder, she was put on probation, and

470
00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:45.119
<v Speaker 2>then she eventually dies in Salt Lake City in nineteen

471
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:47.920
<v Speaker 2>fifty two, and then they move her body back to

472
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:51.359
<v Speaker 2>Twin Falls, Idaho, where she is buried and her tombstone

473
00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:54.160
<v Speaker 2>can now be found in the Sunset Memorial Park in Twin.

474
00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:54.599
<v Speaker 1>Falls, Idaho.

475
00:26:54.799 --> 00:26:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Wow, yeah there, Yeah, me too many.

476
00:26:57.240 --> 00:26:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Times, I'll pee on it. Just kidding.

477
00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Maybe she maybe she confessed her sins

478
00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:02.240
<v Speaker 2>and made things right.

479
00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Nope, she killed a baby, she killed two babes, killed

480
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:09.079
<v Speaker 1>two babies, and four dudes and another dude.

481
00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but she got rich.

482
00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:11.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not worth.

483
00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:14.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's funny. I was looking at the value

484
00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:16.400
<v Speaker 2>of the insurance policies. You know, they were all like

485
00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:20.359
<v Speaker 2>forty six hundred bucks, seven thousand bucks, three thousand bucks.

486
00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:22.319
<v Speaker 2>But that's like that's like one hundred thousand.

487
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Dollars a lot of money.

488
00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:26.759
<v Speaker 2>That was a big deal. So that's my story of

489
00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:31.440
<v Speaker 2>famous inmates, which brings us back to us and what

490
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:34.559
<v Speaker 2>we're going to do on this Friday night. We're going

491
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:36.359
<v Speaker 2>to meet up and we're going to put on our

492
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:39.519
<v Speaker 2>a Strange Thing shirts oh year, and we're going to

493
00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:43.000
<v Speaker 2>go to the old Idaho State Penitentiary and we're going

494
00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:46.160
<v Speaker 2>to join a team and we are going to take

495
00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:50.119
<v Speaker 2>our equipment and we are going to listen and videotape

496
00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:54.440
<v Speaker 2>and record and try to come in contact with some

497
00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:59.559
<v Speaker 2>kind of strange paranormal experience. I think it's gonna be fun.

498
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Creepy. Maybe, Yeah, I've been in there. It was creepy,

499
00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:04.759
<v Speaker 1>but I was little, I guess, but it was daytime.

500
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:05.839
<v Speaker 1>I was a little creeped out.

501
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:07.920
<v Speaker 2>It's an interesting thing. So I'm gonna put some pictures

502
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:10.119
<v Speaker 2>up on our website so people can look and also

503
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:13.160
<v Speaker 2>do some links to for anybody that's you know, local

504
00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:15.440
<v Speaker 2>or regional that would maybe like to come and do

505
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:17.240
<v Speaker 2>one of these. They do seven or eight of these

506
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:19.960
<v Speaker 2>a year, and actually in October, I think they do

507
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:23.519
<v Speaker 2>an all night sleepover. As you get close to Halloween,

508
00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:26.119
<v Speaker 2>they do an all nighter in the prison where you

509
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:28.359
<v Speaker 2>can go in your pajamas and sleep there and hopefully

510
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:29.279
<v Speaker 2>encounter a ghost.

511
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:33.680
<v Speaker 1>We should get some matching strange thing onesie pajamas with

512
00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>footies in him. You can say, pajamin. I hope you're

513
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:42.559
<v Speaker 1>like pajama.

514
00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm excited about. It's gonna be fun.

515
00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna have a guest probably on our next episode.

516
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:51.759
<v Speaker 1>Who's gonna be joining us on our paranormal activities.

517
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes, we are.

518
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:54.759
<v Speaker 1>We have a special friend.

519
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:57.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that sounds a bigger He's kind of a techie,

520
00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:00.119
<v Speaker 2>geeky guy and we're hoping he can help us in

521
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:00.640
<v Speaker 2>that department.

522
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:03.640
<v Speaker 1>But also he's just super dope. Yeah that's what he is.

523
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:06.079
<v Speaker 1>He's nice guy, nice guy, and him and I are

524
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.559
<v Speaker 1>like we always say the same thing at the same time. Yeah,

525
00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:11.480
<v Speaker 1>it's weird. We're on the same brain level.

526
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:13.079
<v Speaker 2>And you know, we got to be honest and say

527
00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:14.839
<v Speaker 2>we were going to invite your brother in law, my

528
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:17.440
<v Speaker 2>son in law, but we knew that he would probably

529
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:20.240
<v Speaker 2>be screaming the whole time, along with your wife.

530
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:22.920
<v Speaker 1>He sent a picture of like Kevin Hart in a car.

531
00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:25.519
<v Speaker 1>It was just like, Nope, we don't.

532
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Know we invited him, but yeah, I don't know. If

533
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:30.960
<v Speaker 2>you ever heard my son in law Andrew's scream, it's

534
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:32.119
<v Speaker 2>none so good about sound.

535
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll have to get him into something. Yeah, bigfoot

536
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:37.200
<v Speaker 1>costume maybe.

537
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he'd look good at a big foot costume right

538
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:42.240
<v Speaker 2>in the no pit. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

539
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I saw it on like Ghostbusters International and they were

540
00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>in like a courtyard and I used to watch those

541
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:53.799
<v Speaker 1>like every day on Netflix, just hammering down all the

542
00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Ghostbuster shows. But they have like an orb that they

543
00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>caught in the field and they like talk about it,

544
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>and there's some other experiences.

545
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:05.599
<v Speaker 2>There is a courtyard. Now the courtyard was originally it

546
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:08.440
<v Speaker 2>was weird. They actually did the public executions. They would

547
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:12.000
<v Speaker 2>hang them out in this courtyard and then they'd moved

548
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:15.359
<v Speaker 2>it inside. And the first and only and last time

549
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:17.680
<v Speaker 2>it was used was with that snoken character.

550
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:21.119
<v Speaker 1>I vaguely remember hearing that maybe that he was hung

551
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:24.359
<v Speaker 1>and it didn't work right away and he had to

552
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:25.599
<v Speaker 1>hang there until he died.

553
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, it's weird. I mean, it was kind

554
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:29.799
<v Speaker 2>of a science. You had to calculate the right distance

555
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:31.920
<v Speaker 2>of the fall because if you made it too long,

556
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:33.160
<v Speaker 2>it would just pop the head right.

557
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:34.319
<v Speaker 1>Up, would be cool.

558
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:36.160
<v Speaker 2>And if you didn't do it long enough, it wouldn't

559
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:39.200
<v Speaker 2>snap the neck, and then they would basically suffocate for

560
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:41.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, it could take a long time. Bepinion on

561
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:42.240
<v Speaker 2>how strong their necks.

562
00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I'm kind of glad it wasn't clean.

563
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:46.480
<v Speaker 2>For that person.

564
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he stabbed a widow. So this lady's probably

565
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:52.039
<v Speaker 1>having the worst time of her life through the last

566
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>couple of years totally. And then she's going out to bars,

567
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:57.839
<v Speaker 1>probably like oh, you know, gotta get back on the

568
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.359
<v Speaker 1>old horse, you know, and trying to kind of like

569
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>get her life started again. And then this second chuiya

570
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:07.640
<v Speaker 1>yep chiwiya saka chuwia chilula saka jua sack.

571
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:11.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I get it, a bad pun reference.

572
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:16.279
<v Speaker 1>This second crap whatever. Yeah, the terrible guy, and I

573
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:19.359
<v Speaker 1>takes advantage of somebody, And I'd read some stuff there

574
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:22.599
<v Speaker 1>had been other reported assaults of this guy.

575
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:24.799
<v Speaker 2>So maybe I'll do a little more research on that,

576
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.480
<v Speaker 2>and then after we do our next episode where we're

577
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:30.599
<v Speaker 2>going to tell of our experiences, maybe we'll go into

578
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.599
<v Speaker 2>a little more detail on him. If I find more information.

579
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:34.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get there.

580
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:37.039
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna be like, I don't know who you are,

581
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:40.759
<v Speaker 7>and I don't know what realm you live in, but

582
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:45.039
<v Speaker 7>I have a specific set of skills and those skills

583
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:47.720
<v Speaker 7>are welding, and they do not apply it.

584
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:51.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, one thing, and it would be fun to do.

585
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Although I respect Big River paranormal investigators, I don't want

586
00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:59.319
<v Speaker 2>to do anything like this, but it's tempting because of

587
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:01.920
<v Speaker 2>all the things I've scene that are so hokey on

588
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:04.759
<v Speaker 2>Tray Channel all the other places. Is just to go

589
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:09.039
<v Speaker 2>there and mess with people, right, Yeah, you know, like

590
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:10.839
<v Speaker 2>the one we watch where the guy throws the keys

591
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:13.480
<v Speaker 2>and slow motion, you know, things like that. We could

592
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:15.279
<v Speaker 2>go there and like set up things that.

593
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:17.559
<v Speaker 1>Mouse traps on the floor, which I like.

594
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Play your recording on your phone very low that would

595
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:22.759
<v Speaker 2>be picked up on an EV pair.

596
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that thing from Lord of the Rings. Yeah, something

597
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:36.279
<v Speaker 1>like that, or like, I'm a shit, I don't know.

598
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:38.599
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, I think we can close this out and

599
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:42.079
<v Speaker 2>we look forward to you hearing of our experiences at

600
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:44.920
<v Speaker 2>the old Idaho State Penitentiary.

601
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>So join us next time for some cold breezes as

602
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.559
<v Speaker 1>we walk through the creepy ben dingder.

603
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:55.079
<v Speaker 2>We drink warm beverages.

604
00:32:55.200 --> 00:33:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Possibly a little sneak, a little flashky, ain't you. Yeah,

605
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>So join us next time for some cold drinks and

606
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:10.160
<v Speaker 1>some straight, spooky and kind of paranormally conversations.

607
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Totally taters, Taters, totally taters,