WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.080 --> 00:00:02.960 How'd you like to listen to dot net rocks with 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:03.799 no ads? 3 00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:04.799 Easy? 4 00:00:05.320 --> 00:00:08.560 Become a patron for just five dollars a month. You 5 00:00:08.599 --> 00:00:11.320 get access to a private RSS feed where all the 6 00:00:11.359 --> 00:00:14.560 shows have no ads. Twenty dollars a month, we'll get 7 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:17.679 you that and a special dot net Rocks patron mug. 8 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:34.520 Sign up now at Patreon dot dot NetRocks dot com. 9 00:00:34.679 --> 00:00:38.000 Hey, welcome back to dot net rocks. This is episode 10 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:41.479 two thousand and seven. I'm Carl Franklin, that Richard Countbell. 11 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:43.000 We decided to do. 12 00:00:43.039 --> 00:00:46.679 A midyear geek out because Richard, yeah, you've got this 13 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:50.920 subject so hot right now, I've been I wrote this 14 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:54.240 as a talk a few weeks back, and I did 15 00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:58.159 it three times in like eight days because everybody wanted it, 16 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:00.719 so I figured it's probably good one to record. 17 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:00.880 You know. 18 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:02.320 I have a couple of geek outs now that I've 19 00:01:02.320 --> 00:01:04.159 made talks that aren't actually podcasts yet. 20 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:04.719 That's really cool. 21 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:08.879 I've also got the undersea Infrastructure is a talk that 22 00:01:08.920 --> 00:01:11.120 I've never made into a podcast, but we can, okay 23 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:11.840 one of these days. 24 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:15.239 Yeah, okay, all right, so but that's not this one. No, 25 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:20.159 this is space data centers. Yeh, space based So let's 26 00:01:20.200 --> 00:01:23.480 talk about what happened in the year two thousand and seven. 27 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:25.560 All right, where do you want them again? 28 00:01:25.719 --> 00:01:31.159 So well, in you know, world events, the Virginia Tech 29 00:01:31.239 --> 00:01:36.120 massacre was horrible. Yeah, that was the deadliest school shooting 30 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:37.599 in US history at the time. 31 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:41.200 Yes, so far people did so far. 32 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:46.920 The emerging global financial crisis, it was going to start 33 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:49.640 the Great recession next year two thousand and eight. 34 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:51.599 Yep, this is when the guys in the big short 35 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:53.879 were starting to get into action realized that's what I 36 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:54.959 over leveraged everything was. 37 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:58.680 Yep, that's right. And if you weren't around back then, 38 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:01.400 then you're two to your child show. 39 00:02:04.120 --> 00:02:04.480 All right. 40 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:08.319 President George W. Bush deployed over twenty thousand additional troops 41 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:13.039 to Iraq in the Great Iraq War Troops surge. The 42 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:14.560 surge is what he called it. 43 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:15.039 Right. 44 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:20.080 Benazir Bhutto was assassinated on December twenty seventh while company 45 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:25.520 while campaigning in Pakistan, which added to the political turmoil 46 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:28.520 and you know, drew world wide attention. 47 00:02:28.680 --> 00:02:31.599 Yeah. I was in Pakistan the year before. Yeah, and 48 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:34.520 when Musharoff was in charge. Mouf Chef was charged in too. 49 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:37.479 But they were trying to get to regular elections, which 50 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:38.240 they'd never done. 51 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:40.560 I thought you and Forte were crazy for going there, 52 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:42.520 But you were a great mission. 53 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:45.159 He had a great time. It was an educational mission. 54 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:46.960 That was a really good thing you did. 55 00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:51.879 Climate change was on everybody's mind. In two thousand and seven, 56 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:55.560 there was an inter Governmental Panel on climate change and 57 00:02:56.039 --> 00:03:00.240 al Gore shared the Nobel Peace Prize, reflecting growing concern 58 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:05.879 over global warming. Hamas took control of Gaza after clashes 59 00:03:05.919 --> 00:03:07.360 with Fatah and. 60 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:09.759 That well, they won their They won their election and 61 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:11.800 then never had another one. Yeah. Yeah. 62 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:17.560 Chinese products safety was in crisis. Massive recalls of toys, 63 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:21.560 pet food, toothpaste, and other products raised global concerns about 64 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:24.919 manufacturing standards. I guess that got better. I don't know 65 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:25.759 has it. 66 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:28.000 It's not in the news anymore anyway, but yeah, one 67 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:28.520 would hope. 68 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:31.280 Yeah, right, Well, Walmart seems to be doing very nicely. 69 00:03:33.159 --> 00:03:36.199 Nancy Pelosi became the first female Speaker of the House 70 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:39.280 in the United States, first woman to serve as speaker. 71 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:44.319 After Democrats regained control, Southern California burned to the ground again. 72 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:50.680 Massive wild for wildfires forced nearly a million people to evacuate, 73 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:53.960 and it became one of the largest evacuation efforts in 74 00:03:54.039 --> 00:04:00.879 California history. Oil prices surge toward one hundred dollars per barrel. Ah, 75 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:01.960 that's nothing. 76 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:04.439 This way, you just wait. 77 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:11.000 So a couple other things we could just honorably mention 78 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:16.920 the Crandall Canyon mind collapse, the disappearance of Madeline McCann, 79 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:20.759 the beginning of the two thousand and eight US presidential 80 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:23.959 race featuring Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John McCain. 81 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:26.160 And in the UK. 82 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:28.240 Record flug record flooding. 83 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:29.879 Not good. 84 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:32.639 No, so yeah, there you go. 85 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:32.959 It was. 86 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:34.079 It wasn't a good year. 87 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:35.079 It was tough year. 88 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:38.079 Tough year. But you know, I kind of only focused 89 00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:41.399 on the negative things because those were the most newsworthy anyway. 90 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:44.720 But what do you got for space and tech? 91 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:49.040 So starting with space in February, the New Horizons spacecraft. 92 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:51.000 It is the one headed for Pluto. Yeah, does a 93 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:54.480 flyby of Jupiter to pick up some more speed. It 94 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:56.480 only launched in two thousand and six, so that was 95 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:59.759 a record time to get to Jupiter. They were booking 96 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:02.079 it all already. It was the fastest launch and the 97 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:06.800 first time ever we launched a spacecraft directly out of 98 00:05:07.160 --> 00:05:09.120 Earth orbit like, it never ordered the Earth, It just 99 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:11.519 went up and kept going. And so yeah, it got 100 00:05:11.519 --> 00:05:14.600 to Jupiter in record times, slung shot around and then 101 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:18.240 basically gets shut down into a dormant mode for seven years. 102 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:20.600 And twenty fourteen, they'll light it back up as it's 103 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:22.759 starting to get close to Pluto. Just a hint. It 104 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:25.560 got to Jupiter in a year, but it'll take another 105 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:29.040 seven years to get to Pluto. It's just a long, 106 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:31.839 a long way. I said it before. Those photos of 107 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:36.879 Pluto were just amazing. Yeah, unbelievable and unexpected. Right, Yeah, 108 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:39.360 nobody knew. Nobody knew what it was, what it looked like. 109 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:43.120 So it was really a great mission that it surprised everybody. 110 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:47.920 In March, the second flight of a SpaceX Falcon one. 111 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:51.120 This is at Omolek, which is a Quandullan Islands funded 112 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:55.920 by the United States Department of Defense. Well, let me 113 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:58.040 tell you how this thing went. So apparently they got 114 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:01.040 the first stage fuel mix wrong, so the engine wasn't 115 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:05.360 burning as efficiently as possible, and that meant they had 116 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:09.959 they were deeper in the atmosphere at second stage separation. 117 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:14.600 That additional drag plus the fuel slash means that the 118 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:17.920 first stage actually bumps into the second stage, possibly causing 119 00:06:17.959 --> 00:06:21.639 it to destabilize a bit and causing more slosh in 120 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:24.759 the second stage. So it does fire up, but shuts 121 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:27.279 down early, doesn't reach ARP. But the good news is 122 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:29.959 since the previous mission had failed as well, this time 123 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:34.439 it had no real payload, just a weight essentially, and 124 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:38.560 Elon called it a ninety five percent success. Okay, it's 125 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:40.319 also the last time they fly on what they call 126 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:44.240 a Merlin one in a engine, which is the oblatively cooltile. 127 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:46.279 They'll move the next flight, they'll use the version they 128 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:49.639 call the one C, which is regeneratively cool. The modern 129 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:51.160 engine that is not on the Falcon nine will be 130 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:54.160 the one E. So that's their second flight, both of 131 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:57.040 both of which have failed. But just you know that's reasonable. 132 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:01.319 In June the return of more Shuttle missions. So' only 133 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:03.279 gonna do three Shuttle missions in two thousand and seven 134 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:05.839 because of the new rules coming out of the Columbia disaster. 135 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:09.879 So the June Atlantis mission brings in the stree and 136 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:11.800 S four trust of the International Space Station. They're all 137 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:14.759 space station flights now, and this is the second set 138 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:17.920 of This is the third set of solar panels and 139 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:19.920 the S three S four. So they remember when they 140 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:21.759 first put together the station, they had one set that 141 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:24.120 was kind of in the middle, up standing up high 142 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:26.560 on the Z trust. Yeah, and then they then they 143 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:29.120 started putting in the wings and so now the port 144 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:31.480 wing and the starbough wing are in. This was the 145 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:34.959 starboard wing. Then in August, just a couple months later, 146 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:37.519 they fly the S five trush, which is a connector 147 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:40.360 to put on a second set. Not the most important 148 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:42.839 thing for the space station. But what was interesting about 149 00:07:42.839 --> 00:07:47.399 the Endeavor mission in August was Barbara Morgan. Barbara Morgan, 150 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:50.639 remember this is two thousand and seven, was the backup 151 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:53.879 to teach your Krista mccauliffe. Oh yeah, who lost their 152 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:57.120 life in the Challenger disaster in nineteen eighty six and 153 00:07:57.160 --> 00:08:01.720 solo literally twenty one years later, her backup gets to 154 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:04.560 fly as the first educator astronaut. Wow, I remember she 155 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:08.839 stayed in all that time and got to actually do 156 00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:12.120 one of the first last Space Lab missions and have 157 00:08:12.160 --> 00:08:15.519 that experience. Awesome. Also, in August, Voyager two cross the 158 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:18.319 terminator shock, just like Voyager one done back in two 159 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:21.800 thousand and fourth, is the point at which the solar 160 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:23.920 radiation from the Sun is being pushed back by the 161 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:28.720 interstellar waves and so our furthest objects out Forture one two. 162 00:08:29.920 --> 00:08:33.679 It's September. The Dawn spacecraft one of the first multi 163 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:36.799 destinations spacecraft editor and it's going to the Internet. It's 164 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:40.399 going to the asteroid belt. It's going to visit vest 165 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:43.399 the asteroid Vesta in twenty eleven, one of the largest, 166 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:46.200 probably a dwarf planet. And then in twenty twelve it'll 167 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:49.679 go to Serre's one of the very very largest, the largest, 168 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:53.759 and it will see it will eventually run out of 169 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:57.120 fuel in twenty eighteen and they will leave it orbiting Serres. 170 00:08:57.360 --> 00:09:00.679 So there's some hope that sometime in the future we'll 171 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.399 get back there and find the old down spacecraft still 172 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:06.279 pinn spin around it there. In October lasts of the 173 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:08.799 Shuttle flights for the year. This is Discovery flying the 174 00:09:08.799 --> 00:09:12.080 Harmony module, also known as No. To two, and so 175 00:09:12.159 --> 00:09:15.720 that's a big connector module, smaller than the habitat or 176 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:20.159 anything like or the Discovery the big laboratory, but it 177 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:22.480 is a big connector module. So that's No. Two. This 178 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:25.159 is also when they take those central solar panels, the 179 00:09:25.159 --> 00:09:27.399 P six panels that had been folded up since the 180 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:29.000 wings had come in and actually moved out to the 181 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:33.240 port end trust. Also in October the first commercial flight 182 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:36.120 of the airbus A three eighty, a Singapore Airlines flight 183 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:39.320 from Singapore to Sydney, and last of the space flights. 184 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:45.559 In November, China's Chang E one orbiter goes to the Moon. 185 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:48.279 It launched in October. It makes to the Moon in November. 186 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:52.200 It will spend a couple of years orbiting the Moon 187 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:55.759 doing a detailed map of the lunar surface. They will 188 00:09:55.759 --> 00:09:57.799 deliberately impact it into the Moon in two thousand and nine, 189 00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:00.440 and then Changy two will launch in two twenty ten, 190 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:04.559 beginning China's march towards the Moon, which still continues to 191 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:08.000 this day. All right, on the computing side, clearly, the 192 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:10.240 most important thing in computing to happen this year was 193 00:10:10.320 --> 00:10:16.000 the first episode of run Ass Radio in April. Yes, 194 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:18.399 that's not self serving at all, Oh my goodness, no, no, 195 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:20.799 I think probably a little more cloud than that would 196 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:24.840 be the release of say, the iPhone in June two 197 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:27.720 thousand and seven, a kind of a big deal. It's 198 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:31.039 useful to note that at that time Steve job says, 199 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:32.879 if you're going to program for the iPhone, you're going 200 00:10:32.919 --> 00:10:35.720 to do it in Safari, because he had already seen 201 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:38.039 the writing on the wall for HTML five well before 202 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:40.960 it was real, and didn't believe any that he was 203 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:43.360 not going to give anybody direct access to the phone whatsoever. 204 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:47.679 He's of course wrong, and by July, within a month 205 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:50.360 the phone is jail broken and people are starting to 206 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:52.120 put software on, and he's about to lose control of 207 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:55.639 his phone. Also in phone News, by November, Google will 208 00:10:55.679 --> 00:11:01.000 release Android, so the smartphone wave is underway, big way. 209 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:04.840 On the Microsoft side. In January, Microsoft Vista is released 210 00:11:04.840 --> 00:11:06.679 to the public. There was a release in November of 211 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:08.440 two thousand and six that was the enterprise only edition, 212 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:12.360 but the other editions release in January. At this point, 213 00:11:12.639 --> 00:11:15.399 people have already been criticizing Vista so heavily that sales 214 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:17.120 are appallingly bad. 215 00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:20.440 Yep, and the jokes never end. 216 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:26.399 I never end. Yeah. In September, the first version of 217 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:29.879 silver Light. Remembering that the first version of the silver 218 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:33.759 Light was really for Netflix, it was the media player 219 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:38.639 side for Netflix, switching from the little red envelopes over 220 00:11:38.759 --> 00:11:41.679 to being online, and so it runs on the Mac 221 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:44.080 and the PC both the Mac, Intel and power PC 222 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:47.600 platforms works in Safari and Firefox as well as ie 223 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:50.879 and all the codings done in JavaScript. Dot Net has 224 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:54.639 not yet come to that land, although in November we 225 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:56.759 get Studio two thousand and eight which has the dot 226 00:11:56.799 --> 00:11:59.159 Net framework three point five with link and stuff. 227 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:01.360 Before we get away from silver Light, I just remember, 228 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:04.600 I think Rory Blythe said it was a wrapper around 229 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:09.159 a four h four error because it really didn't do anything. 230 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:11.279 Well, it was very challenging to make all that media 231 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:11.840 stuff work. 232 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:14.799 And he's called it a glorified animated gift player or 233 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:15.600 something like that. 234 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:18.559 Well, it was if we could actually play. It was 235 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:22.759 multi resolution video player, right, Yeah, you'd actually assess the 236 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:25.360 bandwidth and step down to lower resolution if you could. Yeah, 237 00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:26.120 that was or step up. 238 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:28.240 It was going faster in and of itself, I mean 239 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:30.399 the way all streaming is done today. I mean that 240 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:31.879 was pretty ahead of its time. 241 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:36.519 In October, after the silver Light release, but before Studio 242 00:12:36.559 --> 00:12:41.919 two thousand and eight, Scott Guthrie brings his as we 243 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:45.480 named it at the time, his Ninja Army YEP, which 244 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:48.759 was Hanselman and Hack and Connor and so forth to 245 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:53.960 the very first Alt dot Net conference in Austin, where 246 00:12:54.000 --> 00:13:00.159 they demoed first time in public MVC. Now, NBC had 247 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:02.519 been in development for some time. It was actually internally 248 00:13:02.559 --> 00:13:04.679 like the second or third version that they played with. 249 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:07.480 Gothrie decided, because he was going to All dot Net, 250 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:10.240 who was very much about more testable web development, better 251 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:12.360 quality of web development, all that sort of thing, he 252 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:14.120 wanted to show this off. So though they apparently they 253 00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:17.559 did write the demo on the plane wow going down 254 00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:19.320 there to show this thing off, he did the keynote, 255 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:22.200 and I do remember that story blew them away. I 256 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:26.240 would argue the most famous thing from that entire conference 257 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:30.679 is a photograph of a terribly young Scott Hanselman holding 258 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:33.559 up a large post it note from the open Spaces 259 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:38.120 section that says, why so mean? Yeah? I remember that because, 260 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:40.200 you know, the all dot net folks, at least some 261 00:13:40.279 --> 00:13:42.960 of them, were very vociferous about this idea that open 262 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:46.559 source should be an important part of Microsoft's plant. Yeah, 263 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:48.679 I know, all point out NBC was open source. It 264 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:50.799 was released via Coplex, and they. 265 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:59.320 Didn't really like the whole you know, visual studio developer stereotype. 266 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:03.320 Yeah, culture of Microsoft developer at the time was very 267 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:05.440 much if it doesn't come from Microsoft, I'm not interested 268 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:07.240 in it, and that was a right, and it does. 269 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:10.120 If it doesn't have a guy, then then it's garbage. 270 00:14:10.279 --> 00:14:11.720 Yeah, I'm not going to bother with it. Right, I 271 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:16.120 don't understand it. All dot net Willy at that time 272 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:20.600 I called them if you recall the n Hybrid eight mafia, right, 273 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:22.759 and they decided they should better call themselves something else. 274 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:24.200 They call themselves all dot Net and the all dot 275 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:26.200 Net website will go up in December. It only last 276 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:26.720 a few years. 277 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:30.320 Yeah, but you know they made huge contributions to the 278 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:31.399 dot net ecosystem. 279 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:36.639 Well, we had that conversation, you know, not that long 280 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:38.879 ago about the idea that what they were talking about 281 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:42.960 they won, like open source became a corporal part of 282 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:47.000 Microsoft's work and the Microsoft community just took a while. Yeah. 283 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:49.399 A couple more things to wrap up. One was this 284 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:53.240 is the year that Nvidia releases their Computer Unified Device 285 00:14:53.360 --> 00:14:58.879 Architecture or KUDA gpuplementation, which is still important today. And 286 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:04.879 Attache released their first terabyte hardra Wow. Yeah, terribite, Oh terabyte, 287 00:15:06.600 --> 00:15:08.279 I know, and that's what I got. You'll never need 288 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:09.840 that much Okay, that's crazy. 289 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:13.840 Well, before we let Richard loose on you, let's talk 290 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:16.200 about better know framework. 291 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:24.960 Awesome. All right, man, what do you got? 292 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:28.279 All right? For all you Tesla people out there, and 293 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:32.279 also who might happen to like the Elixir language, which 294 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:36.399 we are great fans of, there's Tesla mat, a powerful 295 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:40.440 self hosted data logger for your Tesla. So as I said, 296 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:44.759 it's written in Elixir, uses postgrass for a data store, 297 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:50.320 visualization and data analysis with grafana. Never heard of that, 298 00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:54.080 but I'm sure it's graphics visualization open source. 299 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:56.799 It's a visualization library like power be I. That kind 300 00:15:56.840 --> 00:15:57.840 of thing is much older. 301 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:02.360 And vehicle data is published to a local MQTT broker. Nice, 302 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:05.879 and you know it's trending right now. They have some 303 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:12.600 sample screenshots of bundled dashboards like battery health, charge level, charges, 304 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:15.320 charge details, charging stats, there's a lot of charging. 305 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:17.200 Well, you know when you have an electric car, when 306 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:21.120 you have a Tesla, Yeah, you do care about your charging, 307 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:21.720 that's for sure. 308 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:27.279 So database information, drive stats, drives, distance, energy consumed and 309 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:34.720 all that drive details, efficiency locations, mileage overview, projected range states. 310 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:41.679 See when your car was online or asleep statistic statistics, timeline, 311 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:47.799 trip updates, Vampire drain, and visited a lifetime driving map. 312 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:51.679 So if you're interested in the stats of your. 313 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:54.639 Tesla, there are online services for this, but you have 314 00:16:54.679 --> 00:16:56.600 to send them your data effectively. So this is a 315 00:16:56.600 --> 00:16:59.159 way to do it totally yourself. That's cool. 316 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:02.360 Self host it. Yeah, it's pretty cool. I do not 317 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:04.359 have a Tesla, but I know a lot of people 318 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:07.319 that do, and they would probably be into this because 319 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:08.319 they're all geeks like me. 320 00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:10.839 Yeah, and owning yourself, so you're not saying anywhere else 321 00:17:10.960 --> 00:17:11.359 is compelling. 322 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:16.039 Before we get started, and because we're doing space, this 323 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:19.319 came up in my feed and I don't know if 324 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:23.000 you know anything about it, but Voyager one is sending 325 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:27.160 back impossible data from interstellar space. Do you know anything 326 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:28.039 about this story? 327 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:31.160 Okay? 328 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:33.920 Well I posted a link to it from the NASA 329 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:41.400 James Webb Space Telescope Facebook page and basically, I think 330 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:47.920 what says is that it made some new discoveries and 331 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:50.400 like they can't believe they're getting data on this thing. 332 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:53.599 So well, it's a long way away. Last is far 333 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:58.839 longer than expected, but you know the and it's beyond 334 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:01.119 the reach of the Soul system for the first time ever. 335 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:02.599 So that's an interesting possibility. 336 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:04.559 Yeah, so forty five years. 337 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:08.079 Anyway, it might just might be also clickbait too, who knows. 338 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:12.400 It could be still traveling beyond our solar system. However, 339 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:15.839 the veteran spacecraft is suddenly sending back unusual data that 340 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:17.519 is baffling its engineers. 341 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:20.799 So anyway, I might also just be breaking down. It's 342 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:21.400 really old. 343 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:24.519 Could be, yeah, not all that impossible. So that's what 344 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:27.279 I got. Who's talking to us today, Richard. 345 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:30.359 Grabby comment of show nineteen eighty three, that's from the 346 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:33.640 beginning of twenty twenty six. That's our energy geek out, Yeah, 347 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:35.839 twenty twenty five, and I always get some nice comments 348 00:18:35.839 --> 00:18:37.200 on that. Somebody brought it up to me to see 349 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:39.440 the data conference that he really counted on those shows, 350 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:41.640 so to get him up to speed on what's been 351 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:44.759 going on. This comment comes from Wade Brooks. This is 352 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:46.599 high Richard Carl. I'm a long time listener in a 353 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:50.200 happily retired software and database engineer. I recently read a 354 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:53.920 sci fi story called Backyard Starship, where the satellite's orbitan 355 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:57.519 never start to fall due to a cascade of collisions 356 00:18:57.519 --> 00:18:59.720 A big object it was hit. That's hundreds of smaller 357 00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:02.880 pieces into other satellites. How likely would a cascade effect 358 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:07.079 like this be in our current age? And by the way, 359 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:10.039 this story also talks about a specialized fleet of space 360 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:13.079 ships cleaning up orbital satellites. I thought it was terribly 361 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:17.039 appropriate comment for the show we're about to record. Indeed, 362 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:19.839 so Wade, I will answer this in line as we 363 00:19:19.880 --> 00:19:22.839 get deeper into the conversation about building data centers in space. 364 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:26.200 Because the thing you're thinking about is called Kessler syndrome, 365 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:29.559 and I ended up in order to make this whole 366 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:34.000 talk work, I had to study it extensively from a 367 00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:37.240 statistical and engineering point of view. 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Although it really this current 390 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:48.079 wave really starts at the end of twenty twenty five, 391 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:52.319 which makes sense because we are coming to the edge 392 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:55.680 of the AI hype cycle and people are starting to 393 00:20:55.720 --> 00:20:57.640 see that we can't scale as far as we need to. 394 00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:02.079 The lashback get data centers is real, and so meeting 395 00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:04.440 an alternative is an important part of that equation, and 396 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:07.720 this data centers in space is an effective alternative. Its 397 00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:10.960 question is doesn't make any sense, and I was struggling 398 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:12.720 to figure this out, so I just ended up running 399 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:16.480 all of the numbers myself and referenced a lot of material. 400 00:21:16.519 --> 00:21:19.720 And while I was putting this together, SpaceX was alfterually 401 00:21:19.720 --> 00:21:22.279