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<v Speaker 1>I don't know I missed it. US is happening fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep up fifty five KRC the talk station.

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<v Speaker 2>Sevenh six Here at fifty five KRCD talk station right

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm switching you a very happy Friday and welcoming

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<v Speaker 2>back into the fifty five KRC Morning show studio. Bring

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<v Speaker 2>him acount from the Hudson in Student. You can find

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<v Speaker 2>him on line at Hudson dot org. He is a

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<v Speaker 2>senior Fellow and director there of the Innovation on American

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<v Speaker 2>Energy Security at Hudson and Student. That's where we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about today energy policy. He's got three decades at the domestic

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<v Speaker 2>in foreign policy experience, served in key position with an industry, government,

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<v Speaker 2>and the military, recently responsible for running one of the

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<v Speaker 2>world's most complex energy transportation infrastructure networks, the Trans Alaska

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<v Speaker 2>Pipeline System. I also served as a regulatory co chair

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<v Speaker 2>of the federal Government's Commercial Space Advisor Committee senior executive

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<v Speaker 2>appointments while working for both political parties during the three administrations,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's seen it all. He's also a professor at

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<v Speaker 2>Miami University, where he teaches graduate and undergraduate courses in law,

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<v Speaker 2>policy and ethics. Break him, it's always a pleasure having

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<v Speaker 2>in the studio. Man, I hope you're doing well.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi am Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great to see you, and I understand we have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of energy to talk about, and it's been

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<v Speaker 2>the subject matter. I mean, obviously I talk about energy

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<v Speaker 2>problems policies, and they're seemingly divorced from reality nature given

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<v Speaker 2>this green revolution we're being forced to undergo. So we've

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of topics to talk about. But this

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<v Speaker 2>energy policy took you to Hungary recently.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure did, was in Hungary last week and attending

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<v Speaker 3>a geopolitical conference put on by several organizations, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>primarily because Central and Eastern Europe are not on board

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<v Speaker 3>with the green energy transition and being pushed by Germany

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<v Speaker 3>and a couple others.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I thought they were all lockstep in, locked in

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<v Speaker 2>arm in arm, marching forward toward a green new world.

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<v Speaker 1>Brigham, Yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Would think that, but you know, when you drill into it, Europe,

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<v Speaker 3>like the US, it's not monolithic, right, and people have

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<v Speaker 3>different perspectives, and for especially those that used to be

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<v Speaker 3>under the boot of the Soviet Union, they have a

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<v Speaker 3>different perspective on life.

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine living under the boot of oppression that long,

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<v Speaker 2>they might be jaded, cynical, and not have a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot of confidence in their government lords and masters.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think the term we use in foreign policy

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<v Speaker 3>and political speak is they're realists.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's put this realism to the test. I noted

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<v Speaker 2>that when you were there, and you've got quite a

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<v Speaker 2>few notes for me to rely on, which I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>because it's hard enough keeping track of everything that's going

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<v Speaker 2>on here in the United States, let alone what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on the European Union. But I understand that you were told,

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<v Speaker 2>or the German citizen who was told by their gases

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<v Speaker 2>are whoever their energies are, that, well, we don't need

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<v Speaker 2>natural gas anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right, despite the fact that I was just

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<v Speaker 3>looking at carbon emissions. If we want to use that

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<v Speaker 3>as a measuring stick.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's what they like to do, isn't it. Yeah, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fascinating because remember we used to talk about pollution

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<v Speaker 3>and how pollution is harmful to one's health. Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think we all agree with that, no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 3>And we start talking about greenhouse gases and there's not

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<v Speaker 3>one greenhouse gas. There's a little more than a half

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<v Speaker 3>a dozen. But suddenly we just started talking about one

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<v Speaker 3>greenhouse gas, yeah, carbon dioxide, right, plant food.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the reason is we're actually cleaning up the world.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we have the best air and water quality

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<v Speaker 3>since the Industrial Revolution, or at least since the United

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<v Speaker 3>States started keeping data on this. Right, you can actually

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<v Speaker 3>swim in rivers, the Cuyahoga doesn't catch fire, you can

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<v Speaker 3>actually see.

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<v Speaker 2>You can eat the fish out of Lake Erie. You

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<v Speaker 2>can you can walleye you like the walleyfe absolutely? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>then walleye fishing is quite a few times in my

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<v Speaker 2>life in Lake Erie.

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<v Speaker 1>But it used to be basically sludge.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there was a Saturday night live routine about

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Lake Erie water and had you know, chunks

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a little like jelly and they're putting

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<v Speaker 2>it in bottles. So you know, fresh from Lake Erie,

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<v Speaker 2>natural water, unfiltered.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do remember, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you know at the time, people you know,

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<v Speaker 2>up and down, you know the circula and the clean

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<v Speaker 2>up sites and the expense and the costs. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for years and years and years, companies literally poured like

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<v Speaker 2>benzene right into the ground. Benzinees are carcinogen. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>want that anymore. I get the idea, but those are

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<v Speaker 2>identifible pollutants, identifiable pollutants manufacturing byproducts or products, and they

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<v Speaker 2>cause cancer, for example. And fine carbon dioxide we exhale

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<v Speaker 2>that and plants eat it. I mean, there's nothing demonstrably

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<v Speaker 2>wrong with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, there's not. And people that are more

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<v Speaker 3>of the more that you know. I'm not a scientist

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<v Speaker 3>or an environmental engineer, but people will tell you that

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<v Speaker 3>the carbon dioxide levels in this in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Used to be a lot higher.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, actually, if we if we slim down and

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<v Speaker 3>look at it, it is a minor component in the atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 3>and human activity is responsible for less than one percent.

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<v Speaker 3>So in fact, I think it's point one six or

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<v Speaker 3>somebody's gonna go, oh, no, that's not right, but the

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<v Speaker 3>point is it's very small. And so yeah, you have

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<v Speaker 3>this German climate czar. They're John carry except wait her

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<v Speaker 3>name by the way, and I've met her before. She's

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<v Speaker 3>invited kind enough to invite me to a meeting. But

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<v Speaker 3>her name is Jennifer Morgan. That sounds so Deutsch, doesn't it. Yeah, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>she's an American. Morgan yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>She is an American born dual citizen, Jennifer Lee and

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<v Speaker 3>former head of Greenpeace International.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, she's not biased at all.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, So she was traveling to Canada because

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<v Speaker 3>Canada has a liberal government right now, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>most forecasters say that's gonna switch after the next election.

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<v Speaker 3>Justin Trudeau is a good kid, but you know, time

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<v Speaker 3>for adults to get back in charge at Canada too.

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<v Speaker 3>So she said, by the way, we're warned that Germany

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<v Speaker 3>and Europe will require less natural gas from countries like Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>Germany will be driving toward forward on a renewables and

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<v Speaker 3>we don't need your natural gas anymore, So don't invest.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they planning ongoing nuclear power because last time I check,

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<v Speaker 2>we all know the problems associated with solar and wind.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes yes, it does produce electricity, but a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>times it doesn't because wind's not blown, the sun's not shining. Problems, problems, problems, problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they not going to have data centers in Germany, because,

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<v Speaker 2>as you and I both know, these artificial intelligent data

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<v Speaker 2>centers are what is renewing the demand for nuclear power

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<v Speaker 2>in our country. I know you had the article and

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<v Speaker 2>I talked about it earlier in the program. This week

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<v Speaker 2>they're opening back up Three Mile Island for the basically

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<v Speaker 2>because of artificial intelligence data center demands.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that the one Microsoft's involved with? It is?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So Microsoft's building a giant data center and there's

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<v Speaker 2>not enough power for the citizenry to add additional what

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be using twenty percent of the available's

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<v Speaker 2>power or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's open three Mile Island. Yeah, so we need

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<v Speaker 1>more energy, not less.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think one of the things that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>sort of bring into start contrast this notion because green energy,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is something I talked about in Hungary green energy,

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<v Speaker 3>we've never before, Brian had an energy transition where we've

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<v Speaker 3>gone from a fuel source that gives us more energy

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<v Speaker 3>to a fuel source that gives us less energy, less density,

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<v Speaker 3>right the evolution. Yes, and that's what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not going to work because the world has

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<v Speaker 3>never used in our entire history, minus war and COVID

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<v Speaker 3>less energy. It's not a thing. We use more energy

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<v Speaker 3>the earth. The world uses almost fifty percent more energy

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<v Speaker 3>now than we did just twenty years ago. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>a thing you cannot conserve your way to nirvana. No,

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<v Speaker 3>in every good and service requires energy. There are more

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<v Speaker 3>people on the globe now compared to twenty thirty years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred years ago, I mean billions more So, even

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't develop new energy consuming technologies or things

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<v Speaker 3>that people need to live, the amount of needed energy

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<v Speaker 3>is going to increase necessarily simply because the population increases.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>And we currently have four billion people around the world

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<v Speaker 3>living not only in poverty, but below what the UN

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<v Speaker 3>even says is an acceptable level of energy. And they

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<v Speaker 3>want what we have. They see how wonderful it is,

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<v Speaker 3>they want it for themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and by virtue of the globalization we're going through,

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<v Speaker 2>they see, sure as hell hell bend for leather to

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<v Speaker 2>take it from us, whether we want to do it

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<v Speaker 2>or not. By for example, the proposals from the UN

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<v Speaker 2>the other day with mandatory taxation. Yeah, mandatory minimum confiscation

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<v Speaker 2>of a percentage of gross domestic product.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's global wealth redistribution. Well, yeah, that's exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what it is. And you know, America has gotten to

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<v Speaker 3>where it is today not by taking other people's stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>but by developing our own. That American exceptionalism, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think when you look at energy next to the cost

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<v Speaker 3>of raw materials and labor people. Energy is the magic

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<v Speaker 3>ingredient that makes a country prosperous or makes a country weak.

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<v Speaker 3>And we don't nowhere in the world do you have

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<v Speaker 3>an economy that is energy poor yet rich.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't exist, can't exist. Springham a guy. We'll continue with

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<v Speaker 2>them in studio. We have a lot more to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about in terms of energy policy globally and locally. And

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of energy coloring electric. You've got a house, you've

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<v Speaker 2>get a traffic update from.

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<v Speaker 5>Northbound seventy five is running close to an extra twenty

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<v Speaker 5>to Ridge chuck Ingram up afty five KRC the talk station.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven twenty here Fiftbouck KRCY talk station Brian Thomas with

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<v Speaker 2>you can find online at Hudson dot org. Brigham, again,

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<v Speaker 2>you were in Hungry delivering a speech on energy policy. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>the Germans seem a scotch misguided thinking they can live

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<v Speaker 3>They are, in fact, they're importing liquefied natural gas since

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<v Speaker 3>maybe let's revisit that for a second. The Nordstream system

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<v Speaker 3>Nordstream one and two is an Angla Merkel project to

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<v Speaker 3>the German economy and all that went up with the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two Russian invasion Almosid Soviet Is it the same thing, No,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not. Okay, the Russian invasion of They would like.

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<v Speaker 1>You to believe it is the same thing, but no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the same thing. No.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, do you know that the Russian Empire

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<v Speaker 3>right now their GDP is equivalent to that of Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>Boy, there's a real milestone there. Italy. Italy. Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 2>Well you know what Italy's going to soon pass up

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<v Speaker 2>Germany baseball. What you're telling you this morning, Well they

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<v Speaker 2>are because this is the thing. Despite this green energy transition,

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<v Speaker 2>cheap Russian oil and gas, and it slowed to a trickle,

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<v Speaker 2>and what you've seen is energy prices dramatically rise in

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<v Speaker 1>That does happen, doesn't it?

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<v Speaker 3>It does because again, you know, I can't emphasize enough

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<v Speaker 3>energy prices matter, and if renewables were actually cheaper, if

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's no question about that. But the only

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<v Speaker 2>reason anybody does it now is because it comes with

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<v Speaker 2>or freebies or cash infusions, tax ride offs or write downs.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fake way of creating something that seems reasonable,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet it is a deficit inspiring. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you know, from a Hudson and Stute standpoint,

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<v Speaker 3>all means. They have their place, but they have their

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<v Speaker 3>place in the toolbox. But just like you can't use

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<v Speaker 3>a hammer for everything you do around your house, although

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<v Speaker 3>I've tried before, it doesn't work. You need different tools

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<v Speaker 3>for different project. That's the same thing with our energy mix.

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<v Speaker 3>You do need different tools, but you can't get there

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<v Speaker 3>just on one piece. So if we were actually serious

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<v Speaker 3>about this, instead of saying you must use this energy,

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<v Speaker 3>not that energy, government regulators should be more like referees. Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>here is the goal, no pun intended. We want to

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<v Speaker 3>reduce X. We want to promote Y. You guys figure

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<v Speaker 3>out how to do it, and we'll make sure nobody's

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<v Speaker 3>cheating and level the playing field. The government should be

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<v Speaker 3>the referee, not the micromanager. Yes, but in a green

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<v Speaker 2>These all require manufacturing, for example, batteries or as they

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<v Speaker 2>go back to batteries because China apparently is core to

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<v Speaker 2>the market and literally everything you need to create a battery,

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<v Speaker 2>and also manufacturing. Now I know we're building manufacturing capacity here.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes a little time, but the key ingredients are

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<v Speaker 1>They are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we are building China's economy and resources and

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<v Speaker 2>by corollary, military because we have to buy everything that

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<v Speaker 2>this forced green economy has pushed on us and it

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<v Speaker 2>comes from China.

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<v Speaker 3>Our hard earned dollars are going to China. We're losing money,

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<v Speaker 3>they're gaining money. And the corollary is if we look

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<v Speaker 3>back to the Arab oil embargo of seventy five and

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<v Speaker 3>how America went from energy abundance during World War Two

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<v Speaker 3>to scraping, begging, pleading with Opek for a little oil,

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<v Speaker 3>it weakened us economically, It weakened our security, It weakened

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<v Speaker 3>our standing in the world. Where you have energy dominance,

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<v Speaker 3>energy security, energy abundance, you have what we call hard

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<v Speaker 3>power and soft power, you can convince people to do things,

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<v Speaker 3>and your economy is strong. And what we're treating and

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<v Speaker 3>having now reached energy and dependence, there are people that

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<v Speaker 3>want to take us back to the past. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>not OPEC. It's going to be China that we're dependent

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<v Speaker 2>Well that seems to be. You know, after COVID, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a bunch of eyes finally open up to that reality.

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<v Speaker 2>From masks to pharmaceuticals to medical equipment, at literally everything

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<v Speaker 2>it was because China was supplying it. We had no

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<v Speaker 2>local manufacturers or resource to provide us with much needed

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I mean, you know, globalization, it's given us cheaper stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>We all like cheap stuff, but you know, look around

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<v Speaker 3>your house, look at your Amazon order next time. How

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<v Speaker 3>much of it comes from anywhere other than China. And

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<v Speaker 3>people are starting to wake up because China steals every design. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they take everything that we've been given because in their culture,

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<v Speaker 1>It's all. It's all for the mass people's property. That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>See, that's where politics centers into the equation, providing them

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk nukes and we'll talk other forms of energy fire.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to ask them about the Duke energy

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<v Speaker 2>tax increase, or rather the energy rate increase here locally,

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<v Speaker 2>Deal stuff. Is it a good idea? I not thinking so.

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<v Speaker 2>Susante Lowscamp's a good idea. She is with Cross Country

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<v Speaker 2>Mortgage and she has more than thirty five years in

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<v Speaker 2>She's personable, friendly, and she will get you through whatever

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<v Speaker 2>life now thanks to Susette and her quick and hard work.

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<v Speaker 2>So no junk fees, no application fees, great rates at

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<v Speaker 2>the low cost, and being with Cross Country Mortgage. If

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<v Speaker 1>So rely on Susette. It's a good thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>You can call her any hour of the day and

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<v Speaker 1>Thunderstorms are possible. I have seventy one, which is right

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<v Speaker 1>where we are right now. Time for traffic update. Chuck Ingram.

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<v Speaker 5>From the UC Health Tramping Center with uc Health, the

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<v Speaker 5>future of care is happening now through clinico trials and

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<v Speaker 5>Visit usee health dot com. Northbound seventy five continues to

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Friday to you Bryan Thomas with Brigha McCowen in studios,

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<v Speaker 2>the Senior Fellow Director of Initiative on American Energy Energy

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<v Speaker 2>Security at the Hudson Institute Energy Security Security. That's an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting word there, Brigha McCowen, because we don't seem to

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<v Speaker 2>world increases, as you mentioned before, obviously necessarily the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of electricity we need is going to increase. Without electricity,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have any form of well standard of living, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the countries without plumbing, for example, you need

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<v Speaker 2>pumps to pump water. Pumps are driven by electricity, right.

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<v Speaker 2>state in the obvious. But it's just it's inextricably intertwined

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<v Speaker 3>most of the time anyway, there's gas in the pump.

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<v Speaker 3>You go places, it just all works and I think

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<v Speaker 3>look where things are headed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well in the electricity rates are going to go up again.

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<v Speaker 2>I presume the Public Utility Commission of how it is

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<v Speaker 2>going to prove the duke energy rate increase. Now, they'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to put it into a battery and then when

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<v Speaker 2>the inevitable happens and the wind stops blowing and electricity

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<v Speaker 2>is not being produced, they go hook it up.

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<v Speaker 1>To the battery. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You know the problem with that is if we took

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<v Speaker 3>all battery capacity in the United States, plugged it all in,

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<v Speaker 3>got it all ready assumed it was all working, and

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<v Speaker 3>we turned everything off, it would last a couple of seconds.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a viable alternation, and it's extremely expensive when

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<v Speaker 3>you have right nuclear power, where you have natural gas

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<v Speaker 3>fired electricity generators, when you have other means that are

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<v Speaker 3>far cheaper. You know, the government is trying to turn

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<v Speaker 3>the utilities into an extension of the government, and the

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<v Speaker 3>utilities are like, hey, we have to do this because

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<v Speaker 3>the government's requiring it, and nobody cares because they just

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<v Speaker 3>it's passed the buck. It's passed the buck to you,

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<v Speaker 3>it's passed the buck to me. We're are the only

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<v Speaker 3>ones that are ultimately going to feel the pinch. Everything

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<v Speaker 3>else just to pass through.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's well, like my comment on taxes on corporation,

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<v Speaker 2>those evil money making entities that employ everybody, the more

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<v Speaker 2>you tax them, the more expensive the products or services

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<v Speaker 2>they provide are going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a pass through. It's a pass through part of

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<v Speaker 1>doing business like anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I think that's one of the concerns I

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<v Speaker 3>have with some folks in government and some folks that

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<v Speaker 3>want to continue to be in government, is that there

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<v Speaker 3>is this notion that corporations are rich, that they all

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<v Speaker 3>have money trees out back of their headquarters. This doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a fallacy, and you know, sadly it can

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<v Speaker 3>make us out of mind. Are we going to be

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<v Speaker 3>competitive in the world? Are we going to be uncompetitive

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<v Speaker 3>in the world. Because if we want to be competitive,

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<v Speaker 3>if we want to be exceptional, if we want to

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<v Speaker 3>house the data centers, if we want to be at

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<v Speaker 3>the top of our game, then we better have good

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<v Speaker 3>people that are educated. We need to figure out a

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<v Speaker 3>way to extract more raw materials, and we better have

461
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<v Speaker 3>cheap energy prices. It's that simple. It's really not hard.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not hard, but that concept as salable as is

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<v Speaker 2>to anybody in my listening audience, like, well, no kidd

464
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<v Speaker 2>we want to be competitive, no kidding, we want to

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<v Speaker 2>be the best, no kidding, we want to be the strongest.

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<v Speaker 2>That is not the mindset of the many, many many

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<v Speaker 2>people in government elected and otherwise. They don't want us

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<v Speaker 2>to be the strongest nation in the world. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>want us to be the most successful. We are an

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<v Speaker 2>illustration in their mind of something that is evil and

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<v Speaker 2>should be avoided because we're rapacious, we use too many resources,

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<v Speaker 2>we're too successful, and damn it, we've got too much stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to share it with the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>world because of our success.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and to your point, the people that are saying this,

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<v Speaker 3>I call them members of the global cocktail Club.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, they're curson.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the private jet of their yacht and harumph and

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<v Speaker 2>complain about the little people and their carbon production and

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<v Speaker 2>the masses and what needs to be done to them

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<v Speaker 2>to get them under their thumb.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, yes, that that is the bottom line.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, where there is independence, whether it's energy independence,

484
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<v Speaker 3>financial independence, whatever you want to talk about. You have choices,

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<v Speaker 3>you have power, you have literally personal independence. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>we want. That's what we want for all Americans. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what at least that's what we want for all Americans.

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<v Speaker 3>And uh, you know, the people running the government, most

489
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<v Speaker 3>of them have never had a private sector job in

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<v Speaker 3>their entire life.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>When I go to Europe, people have alphabet soup behind

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<v Speaker 3>their name, and I'll say, say, so, where have you worked,

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what, it's academia, it's government, it's nonprofits.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no private sector experience. And I bet you ran

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<v Speaker 2>into a whole lot of word salads when you were

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<v Speaker 2>over there in hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's pause.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll bring back Brigerman when you get his se He

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<v Speaker 2>does have some thoughts on immigration as well, because it

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<v Speaker 2>was a topic of conversation when he was in Hungary,

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<v Speaker 2>just like it has been here. It's seven point thirty

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<v Speaker 2>seven fifty five K city talk station and time for

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<v Speaker 2>me to mention doctor Fred Pack love doctor Fred Peck.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I always mentioned. He is one of

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<v Speaker 2>only three accredited fellows of the American Academy a Cosmetic Dentistry,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was looking at his website the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>He's only one of ninety in the entire world. You

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<v Speaker 2>know dentists there are in the world. He is one

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<v Speaker 2>We got a high wind advisory kicking in at noon,

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<v Speaker 2>and the high winds are probably going to create some

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<v Speaker 2>the high overnight sixty four with more rain. Got continuous

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<v Speaker 2>shower or continued showers tomorrow with the highest seventy body

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<v Speaker 1>Seven forty one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's some forty two fifty five krcity talk station from

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<v Speaker 2>the Hudson in steud Brigha mccawan in studio talk about

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<v Speaker 2>energy policy since he is the senior Fellow on Innovative

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<v Speaker 2>on I'm sorry, the Innovative on American Energy Security Initiative.

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<v Speaker 1>Rather so I get it out Brigham. It is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a Friday, but let me pivot. He in

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<v Speaker 2>a nuclear We talked earlier, just briefly about the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of reopening one of the reactors at three Mile Island

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<v Speaker 2>for the purposes of providing Microsoft atdequate electricity for its

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<v Speaker 2>artificial intelligence center. Other artificial intelligence centers are popping up

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<v Speaker 2>where they similarly need these energy demands. And so now

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<v Speaker 2>it seems that it has opened up the door to

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<v Speaker 2>consideration of nuclear power. Oh lo, and behold, all the

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<v Speaker 2>time they've been pushing us to rely on a windmill,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm screaming over here, what about nuclear power? It doesn't

563
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<v Speaker 2>produce the carbon that they're so worried about. The new

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<v Speaker 2>modern nuclear plants are what they call modular, which means

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<v Speaker 2>one size fits all. It doesn't have to be individually

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<v Speaker 2>designed and created for any specific location. It's like legos.

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<v Speaker 2>You just pick a space, pop it down. We can

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<v Speaker 2>deal with the waste. There's not that much waste overall

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<v Speaker 2>that comes from nuclear power. I mean, it's it's documented.

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<v Speaker 2>They had the yucka Mountain thing. They could have stored

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<v Speaker 2>all the nuclear waste in the entire country for one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred years and never would have been filled.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever the stats are, the wakay see you years ago?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me I'm wrong? Is anything I said wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're absolutely right. I eat a national depository and

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<v Speaker 3>we have one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Now, moving over our discussion about the reality behind

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<v Speaker 2>the Green New Deal is that we're too powerful. We

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<v Speaker 2>need to redistribute our wealth, and we have too much stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>What about these third world countries? We need to offshore

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<v Speaker 2>money and develop them. Nuclear power here in the United

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<v Speaker 2>States would eradicate the ability to bring us to our

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<v Speaker 2>knees Economically, we would have all the power we want.

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<v Speaker 2>We could be the most powerful, mighty energy producer on

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<v Speaker 2>the planet, and we wouldn't be producing a single ounce

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<v Speaker 2>or molecule of carbon dioxide.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why they don't want it.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let me give you this is very complicated.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me give you a very complicated answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so I've been right all along and in my conclusions. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it flies in the face of the reality of

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<v Speaker 2>what they really want, which is to bring us down.

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<v Speaker 1>It does. And you know, I've got this handy app here.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just looking Germany right now, right now, in Germany,

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<v Speaker 3>about eighty percent of their electricity.

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<v Speaker 1>Is from.

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<v Speaker 3>Generation at the moment. Let's go next door to France.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, they're about sixty percent nuclear.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, look at this.

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<v Speaker 3>France is ninety nine percent low carbon producing electricity.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now because nuclear.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nuclear, and they have one of the cheapest rates,

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<v Speaker 3>their citizens enjoy a very cheap electricity. Sure they're more

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<v Speaker 3>expensive to build on the front end, but these things

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<v Speaker 3>last a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty years.

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<v Speaker 3>We can build one hundred year reactor now it's just

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<v Speaker 3>a matter of updating it. So yeah, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think in retrospect, we've had a couple of things

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<v Speaker 3>go on. Three Mile Island certainly is something that people remember,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's not that reactor they're restarting, it's the.

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<v Speaker 1>One next one next to right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then, uh, modern nuclear actors are different than the

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<v Speaker 2>type they had at Three Mile Island.

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<v Speaker 1>If they're different.

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<v Speaker 3>When somebody says three Mile Island Chernobyl Fukushima, we go, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's like saying I want a nineteen sixty five International

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<v Speaker 3>Harvester SUV truck thing. It's different today, and they're far safer,

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<v Speaker 3>they use far less uranium or uranium drive products, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's really where we ought to be headed. But we

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<v Speaker 3>have an agency that's supposed to permit nuclear facilities that

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<v Speaker 3>has spent its entire life as an agency trying not to.

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<v Speaker 1>Permit any exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the environmental lawsuits come in in these last

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<v Speaker 2>ten years and then they have a change in permitting

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<v Speaker 2>because somebody in government says no, no, you need to

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<v Speaker 2>reapply and it starts to process all over again. So

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<v Speaker 2>from start to finish you look at it almost like

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<v Speaker 2>two decades to get a nuclear power plant build. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the administrative state standing in the way.

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<v Speaker 3>It absolutely is in Poland, for example, and in Hungary

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<v Speaker 3>a couple other places. They're also moving toward nuclear power.

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<v Speaker 3>In the South Koreans, the Japanese and others are actually

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<v Speaker 3>getting those contracts because they can actually build a nuclear

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<v Speaker 3>plant in a couple of years, and we can do

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<v Speaker 3>the same. And one of the proposals we've looked at

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<v Speaker 3>at Hudson I'll talk more about this on my next

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<v Speaker 3>episode of Charged Conversations the podcast is we can license

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<v Speaker 3>two or three different types of reactors, different sizes, and

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<v Speaker 3>once they're licensed.

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<v Speaker 1>You just build the same one. That's the point.

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<v Speaker 3>Quit trying to tweak it. You have a license, you

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<v Speaker 3>build it. But these data centers, Brian can require anywhere

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<v Speaker 3>from one to five gigawatts gigawatts. This isn't like back

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<v Speaker 3>to the future. This is real of energy. That could

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<v Speaker 3>be two to four nuclear plants just to power a

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<v Speaker 3>five gigawatt facility.

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<v Speaker 2>And if AI is the future and we don't have

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<v Speaker 2>the energy to power AI facilities, I guess they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be in China, then, aren't they. It's the answer

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<v Speaker 2>for everything. It apparently is one more Briga McGowan, some

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven talk station and Foreign Exchange there to fix

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<v Speaker 2>your car for less money. So if they have the

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<v Speaker 2>ports shut down that this strike goes through, that you

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<v Speaker 2>might want to hurry up and get your car fixed

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<v Speaker 2>now because they say there will be a shortage of

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<v Speaker 2>automobile repair parts. And that's for everybody. I'm just warning

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<v Speaker 2>you ahead of time because that strike may take place

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<v Speaker 2>in early October. But moving away from that, get your

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<v Speaker 2>car fixed for less all things being equal, that's Foreign Exchange.

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<v Speaker 2>You get a great mechanic asse certified Master technician working

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<v Speaker 2>on your car. You'll leave with a full warranty on

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<v Speaker 2>parts and service. You have the confidence of that full

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<v Speaker 2>warranty and the team at Foreign Exchange standing behind it,

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't pay as much, sometimes substantially less money

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<v Speaker 2>compared to the dealer. And that's what Foreign Exchange is

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<v Speaker 2>all about, delivering on quality service while charging you less,

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<v Speaker 2>so save money head on up to the Westchester location

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<v Speaker 2>where I go Tylersville exit right off seventy five, go

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<v Speaker 2>two streets east. When you get on the Tylersville Road

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<v Speaker 2>and hang it right on Kingland Drive. You run right

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<v Speaker 2>into it online. You run into it at foreign xform

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<v Speaker 2>the letter X dot com. Please tell Austin and the

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<v Speaker 2>great crew that I said high when you call for

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<v Speaker 2>an appoyment five one three six four four twenty six

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six fifty five car the talk station mark here's

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<v Speaker 2>your nine first one to wether forecast. So we have

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<v Speaker 2>a high wind advisory beginning at noon today, rain all day,

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<v Speaker 2>heavy rain in the afternoon with high winds and some damage.

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<v Speaker 2>Seventy one for the high overnight low sixty four window

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<v Speaker 2>tick settle down the rain become spotty. We got continued

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<v Speaker 2>showers tomorrow with highest seventy spotty showers over night with

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<v Speaker 2>the lowest sixty two seventy one the high on Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>with showers likely and thunderstorm as possible seventy.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now traffic time.

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<v Speaker 4>Visit useehealth dot com.

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<v Speaker 5>Northbound seventy five is running an extra half hour from

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<v Speaker 5>Buttermilk to an accident before Zer Charles right side mocked

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<v Speaker 5>southbound seventy five getting heavy your approaching an accident above

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<v Speaker 5>Cincinnati Dayton Road that is now banking traffic pasts one

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<v Speaker 5>twenty nine. That's our rack on seven forty seven above

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<v Speaker 5>two seventy five Shohn King Ramont fifty five KRCD Talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Station seven fifty fifty five Krcity talk Stations. We'll get

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<v Speaker 2>some concluding thoughts from Brigham account here in the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>But first, it is that time of week where we

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<v Speaker 2>catch ourselves a crimestopper, bad guy the week. Joining a

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<v Speaker 2>fifty five KRC morning show from the Sincinni Police Office Department,

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<v Speaker 2>Officer Leeka Lisa Baker, Welcome back in a Happy.

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<v Speaker 6>Friday, Happy Friday, Good morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we looking for today?

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<v Speaker 6>We are looking for Melissa Collins. She's wanted for theft

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<v Speaker 6>and for failure to comply with the officers. Melissa Collins,

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<v Speaker 6>she's a white female, She's thirty five years old, four

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<v Speaker 6>foot eleven and one hundred and thirty pounds. She has

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<v Speaker 6>a history of thefts and drug charges as she frequents Harrison, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if we know where this bad girl might be,

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<v Speaker 2>we're having a tip that might lead to her and arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we gonna do? Lisa?

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<v Speaker 6>Give crime stoppers a call five one, two thirty forty.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll remain anonymous, You'll be able to for a cash

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<v Speaker 2>reward if your tip leaves to arrest. You'd be doing

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<v Speaker 2>us all a huge favor. Her informations and photographs on

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<v Speaker 2>my blog PAGEVW five krcy dot com. Have a great weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa Baker, God bless you and everybody on the insin

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<v Speaker 2>Police Department pivoty back over Charged Conversations Brigham and I

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<v Speaker 2>bring him agwn from the Hudson and Who've been talking

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<v Speaker 2>energy policy all hour. It's fascinating stuff, but honestly, even

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<v Speaker 2>in an hour's time on the morning show, we're only

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<v Speaker 2>kind of really scratching the surface of it. Ten thousand

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<v Speaker 2>foot level. You can listen to Charged Conversation Brigham's week podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>How often you do?

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<v Speaker 2>The new podcast episodes every other week every other week,

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<v Speaker 2>So just search for it where we get your podcasts,

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<v Speaker 2>charge conversations and learn a lot more. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>were hearing Brigham, he was talking about this app he

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<v Speaker 2>has on his phone. What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>What is that app called? Again?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's fascinating. I mean, you can look at the globe,

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<v Speaker 2>how much people are paying, how much carbon production there is,

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<v Speaker 2>what type of energy is being generated in any given country,

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<v Speaker 2>even on a state by state level here in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's certain.

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<v Speaker 3>What you call electricity maps And I just learned about

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<v Speaker 3>it a week ago, so I'm still trying to figure

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<v Speaker 3>it out.

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<v Speaker 2>But just one word electricitymaps dot com that it. It's well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's an app, So you go to your app store.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, okay, fire it up. But I do think you

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<v Speaker 3>can go to the website too and electricity map. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>check it out. It's got a lot of good information.

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<v Speaker 3>You can become informed about where your energy.

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<v Speaker 2>Comes from well, and just be aware of the backcrop

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<v Speaker 2>insanity going on in Europe. Germany cutting its own throat.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know when you talk about manufacturing leaving Germany

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<v Speaker 2>of the entire European Union, Germany was the powerhouse.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you can take almost every other EU

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<v Speaker 3>country and combine it in at equalled Germany. But Germany

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<v Speaker 3>has lost a lot of ground. And you know we

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<v Speaker 3>have Europeans saying Germany's on its way to becoming an

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<v Speaker 3>open air museum. Oh that's heartbreaking, it really is, because

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<v Speaker 3>they used to have their act together more.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Man, when you mentioned manufacturing, the first thing that

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<v Speaker 2>would pop in anybody who has any sense of understanding

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<v Speaker 2>about the quality. Yeah, Germany was always number one in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of quality. Yes, German parts always costed more, but

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<v Speaker 2>they had superior quality, superior engineering, and I just we

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<v Speaker 2>just can't count on that anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really frustrating.

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<v Speaker 3>Even the trains don't run on time now, which is

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<v Speaker 3>which is really if you're a German you've been to Germany,

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<v Speaker 3>that is like the ultimate insult that the Deutsche Bahn

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't work correctly.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think you and I both really do know

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on. It's global communism, Marxism, socialism, called it,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever label you want. Their control over us, depriving us

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<v Speaker 2>of what we need to be more comfortable, happier and

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<v Speaker 2>more productive and wealthier. That's a no no among those circles.

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<v Speaker 2>Briga mccawam. We'll be talking again soon. I hope I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be a wonderful weekend. And thanks for spending time in

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<v Speaker 2>studio with my listeners and me today, Folks, stick around

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<v Speaker 2>After the top of the Air news. Author Tim Rivers

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to return. He was on the show in

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<v Speaker 2>January to talk about his book American Goulag. We have

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<v Speaker 2>some updates to go over with Tim after the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the Air news. Hope you can stick around.

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<v Speaker 1>What's wrong with German people thanking?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure them there they can change your cards the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four election, It doesn't matter. This is done on

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<v Speaker 4>Fifty five KRC, the talk station this week