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Speaker 2: if I'm switching you a very happy Friday and welcoming
Speaker 2: back into the fifty five KRC Morning show studio. Bring
Speaker 2: him acount from the Hudson in Student. You can find
Speaker 2: him on line at Hudson dot org. He is a
Speaker 2: senior Fellow and director there of the Innovation on American
Speaker 2: Energy Security at Hudson and Student. That's where we're talking
Speaker 2: about today energy policy. He's got three decades at the domestic
Speaker 2: in foreign policy experience, served in key position with an industry, government,
Speaker 2: and the military, recently responsible for running one of the
Speaker 2: world's most complex energy transportation infrastructure networks, the Trans Alaska
Speaker 2: Pipeline System. I also served as a regulatory co chair
Speaker 2: of the federal Government's Commercial Space Advisor Committee senior executive
Speaker 2: appointments while working for both political parties during the three administrations,
Speaker 2: so he's seen it all. He's also a professor at
Speaker 2: Miami University, where he teaches graduate and undergraduate courses in law,
Speaker 2: policy and ethics. Break him, it's always a pleasure having
Speaker 2: in the studio. Man, I hope you're doing well.
Speaker 1: Hi am Brian.
Speaker 2: It's great to see you, and I understand we have
Speaker 2: a lot of energy to talk about, and it's been
Speaker 2: the subject matter. I mean, obviously I talk about energy
Speaker 2: problems policies, and they're seemingly divorced from reality nature given
Speaker 2: this green revolution we're being forced to undergo. So we've
Speaker 2: got a lot of topics to talk about. But this
Speaker 2: energy policy took you to Hungary recently.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure did, was in Hungary last week and attending
Speaker 3: a geopolitical conference put on by several organizations, you know,
Speaker 3: primarily because Central and Eastern Europe are not on board
Speaker 3: with the green energy transition and being pushed by Germany
Speaker 3: and a couple others.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought they were all lockstep in, locked in
Speaker 2: arm in arm, marching forward toward a green new world.
Speaker 1: Brigham, Yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Would think that, but you know, when you drill into it, Europe,
Speaker 3: like the US, it's not monolithic, right, and people have
Speaker 3: different perspectives, and for especially those that used to be
Speaker 3: under the boot of the Soviet Union, they have a
Speaker 3: different perspective on life.
Speaker 2: I imagine living under the boot of oppression that long,
Speaker 2: they might be jaded, cynical, and not have a whole
Speaker 2: lot of confidence in their government lords and masters.
Speaker 3: Well, I think the term we use in foreign policy
Speaker 3: and political speak is they're realists.
Speaker 1: Hmmm.
Speaker 2: Well, let's put this realism to the test. I noted
Speaker 2: that when you were there, and you've got quite a
Speaker 2: few notes for me to rely on, which I appreciate
Speaker 2: because it's hard enough keeping track of everything that's going
Speaker 2: on here in the United States, let alone what's going
Speaker 2: on the European Union. But I understand that you were told,
Speaker 2: or the German citizen who was told by their gases
Speaker 2: are whoever their energies are, that, well, we don't need
Speaker 2: natural gas anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, despite the fact that I was just
Speaker 3: looking at carbon emissions. If we want to use that
Speaker 3: as a measuring stick.
Speaker 1: Well that's what they like to do, isn't it. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: That's fascinating because remember we used to talk about pollution
Speaker 3: and how pollution is harmful to one's health. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think we all agree with that, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3: And we start talking about greenhouse gases and there's not
Speaker 3: one greenhouse gas. There's a little more than a half
Speaker 3: a dozen. But suddenly we just started talking about one
Speaker 3: greenhouse gas, yeah, carbon dioxide, right, plant food.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, the reason is we're actually cleaning up the world.
Speaker 3: You know, we have the best air and water quality
Speaker 3: since the Industrial Revolution, or at least since the United
Speaker 3: States started keeping data on this. Right, you can actually
Speaker 3: swim in rivers, the Cuyahoga doesn't catch fire, you can
Speaker 3: actually see.
Speaker 2: You can eat the fish out of Lake Erie. You
Speaker 2: can you can walleye you like the walleyfe absolutely? Okay,
Speaker 2: then walleye fishing is quite a few times in my
Speaker 2: life in Lake Erie.
Speaker 1: But it used to be basically sludge.
Speaker 2: I mean there was a Saturday night live routine about
Speaker 2: you know, Lake Erie water and had you know, chunks
Speaker 2: and it was a little like jelly and they're putting
Speaker 2: it in bottles. So you know, fresh from Lake Erie,
Speaker 2: natural water, unfiltered.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do remember, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean you know at the time, people you know,
Speaker 2: up and down, you know the circula and the clean
Speaker 2: up sites and the expense and the costs. But you know,
Speaker 2: for years and years and years, companies literally poured like
Speaker 2: benzene right into the ground. Benzinees are carcinogen. We don't
Speaker 2: want that anymore. I get the idea, but those are
Speaker 2: identifible pollutants, identifiable pollutants manufacturing byproducts or products, and they
Speaker 2: cause cancer, for example. And fine carbon dioxide we exhale
Speaker 2: that and plants eat it. I mean, there's nothing demonstrably
Speaker 2: wrong with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, there's not. And people that are more
Speaker 3: of the more that you know. I'm not a scientist
Speaker 3: or an environmental engineer, but people will tell you that
Speaker 3: the carbon dioxide levels in this in the world.
Speaker 1: Used to be a lot higher.
Speaker 3: And yeah, actually, if we if we slim down and
Speaker 3: look at it, it is a minor component in the atmosphere,
Speaker 3: and human activity is responsible for less than one percent.
Speaker 3: So in fact, I think it's point one six or
Speaker 3: somebody's gonna go, oh, no, that's not right, but the
Speaker 3: point is it's very small. And so yeah, you have
Speaker 3: this German climate czar. They're John carry except wait her
Speaker 3: name by the way, and I've met her before. She's
Speaker 3: invited kind enough to invite me to a meeting. But
Speaker 3: her name is Jennifer Morgan. That sounds so Deutsch, doesn't it. Yeah, Oh,
Speaker 3: she's an American. Morgan yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: She is an American born dual citizen, Jennifer Lee and
Speaker 3: former head of Greenpeace International.
Speaker 1: Oh no, she's not biased at all.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, So she was traveling to Canada because
Speaker 3: Canada has a liberal government right now, and I think
Speaker 3: most forecasters say that's gonna switch after the next election.
Speaker 3: Justin Trudeau is a good kid, but you know, time
Speaker 3: for adults to get back in charge at Canada too.
Speaker 3: So she said, by the way, we're warned that Germany
Speaker 3: and Europe will require less natural gas from countries like Canada.
Speaker 3: Germany will be driving toward forward on a renewables and
Speaker 3: we don't need your natural gas anymore, So don't invest.
Speaker 2: Are they planning ongoing nuclear power because last time I check,
Speaker 2: we all know the problems associated with solar and wind.
Speaker 2: Sometimes yes, it does produce electricity, but a lot of
Speaker 2: times it doesn't because wind's not blown, the sun's not shining. Problems, problems, problems, problems.
Speaker 2: Are they not going to have data centers in Germany, because,
Speaker 2: as you and I both know, these artificial intelligent data
Speaker 2: centers are what is renewing the demand for nuclear power
Speaker 2: in our country. I know you had the article and
Speaker 2: I talked about it earlier in the program. This week
Speaker 2: they're opening back up Three Mile Island for the basically
Speaker 2: because of artificial intelligence data center demands.
Speaker 1: Isn't that the one Microsoft's involved with? It is?
Speaker 2: Okay, So Microsoft's building a giant data center and there's
Speaker 2: not enough power for the citizenry to add additional what
Speaker 2: they're going to be using twenty percent of the available's
Speaker 2: power or whatever.
Speaker 1: So let's open three Mile Island. Yeah, so we need
Speaker 1: more energy, not less.
Speaker 3: And I think one of the things that's going to
Speaker 3: sort of bring into start contrast this notion because green energy,
Speaker 3: and this is something I talked about in Hungary green energy,
Speaker 3: we've never before, Brian had an energy transition where we've
Speaker 3: gone from a fuel source that gives us more energy
Speaker 3: to a fuel source that gives us less energy, less density,
Speaker 3: right the evolution. Yes, and that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 3: And it's not going to work because the world has
Speaker 3: never used in our entire history, minus war and COVID
Speaker 3: less energy. It's not a thing. We use more energy
Speaker 3: the earth. The world uses almost fifty percent more energy
Speaker 3: now than we did just twenty years ago. It's not
Speaker 3: a thing you cannot conserve your way to nirvana. No,
Speaker 3: in every good and service requires energy. There are more
Speaker 3: people on the globe now compared to twenty thirty years ago,
Speaker 3: one hundred years ago, I mean billions more So, even
Speaker 3: if you don't develop new energy consuming technologies or things
Speaker 3: that people need to live, the amount of needed energy
Speaker 3: is going to increase necessarily simply because the population increases.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: And we currently have four billion people around the world
Speaker 3: living not only in poverty, but below what the UN
Speaker 3: even says is an acceptable level of energy. And they
Speaker 3: want what we have. They see how wonderful it is,
Speaker 3: they want it for themselves.
Speaker 2: Well, and by virtue of the globalization we're going through,
Speaker 2: they see, sure as hell hell bend for leather to
Speaker 2: take it from us, whether we want to do it
Speaker 2: or not. By for example, the proposals from the UN
Speaker 2: the other day with mandatory taxation. Yeah, mandatory minimum confiscation
Speaker 2: of a percentage of gross domestic product.
Speaker 3: You know, it's global wealth redistribution. Well, yeah, that's exactly
Speaker 3: what it is. And you know, America has gotten to
Speaker 3: where it is today not by taking other people's stuff,
Speaker 3: but by developing our own. That American exceptionalism, and I
Speaker 3: think when you look at energy next to the cost
Speaker 3: of raw materials and labor people. Energy is the magic
Speaker 3: ingredient that makes a country prosperous or makes a country weak.
Speaker 3: And we don't nowhere in the world do you have
Speaker 3: an economy that is energy poor yet rich.
Speaker 2: Doesn't exist, can't exist. Springham a guy. We'll continue with
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Speaker 2: Seven twenty here Fiftbouck KRCY talk station Brian Thomas with
Speaker 2: Briga McCowan, Senior Fellow and director of INITIAT, the Initiative
Speaker 2: on American Energy Security at the Hudson ins Too, which
Speaker 2: you can find online at Hudson dot org. Brigham, again,
Speaker 2: you were in Hungry delivering a speech on energy policy. Obviously,
Speaker 2: the Germans seem a scotch misguided thinking they can live
Speaker 2: without any natural gas at all? Are they still getting
Speaker 2: natural gas fromhich're from Russia.
Speaker 3: They are, in fact, they're importing liquefied natural gas since
Speaker 3: somebody did something to a couple of pipelines that was
Speaker 3: bringing all of the natural gas to Germany, and for
Speaker 3: maybe let's revisit that for a second. The Nordstream system
Speaker 3: Nordstream one and two is an Angla Merkel project to
Speaker 3: bring massive amounts of natural gas into Germany to power
Speaker 3: the German economy and all that went up with the
Speaker 3: twenty two Russian invasion Almosid Soviet Is it the same thing, No,
Speaker 3: it's not. Okay, the Russian invasion of They would like.
Speaker 1: You to believe it is the same thing, but no,
Speaker 1: it's not the same thing. No.
Speaker 3: By the way, do you know that the Russian Empire
Speaker 3: right now their GDP is equivalent to that of Italy.
Speaker 1: Boy, there's a real milestone there. Italy. Italy. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: a powerhouse.
Speaker 2: Well you know what Italy's going to soon pass up
Speaker 2: Germany baseball. What you're telling you this morning, Well they
Speaker 2: are because this is the thing. Despite this green energy transition,
Speaker 2: what has been underlying it for all these years is
Speaker 2: cheap Russian oil and gas, and it slowed to a trickle,
Speaker 2: and what you've seen is energy prices dramatically rise in
Speaker 2: Germany and lack of investment in industry folding up and
Speaker 2: leaving the country.
Speaker 1: That does happen, doesn't it?
Speaker 3: It does because again, you know, I can't emphasize enough
Speaker 3: energy prices matter, and if renewables were actually cheaper, if
Speaker 3: putting a windmill up or something else made sense, people
Speaker 3: would do it, clearly.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no question about that. But the only
Speaker 2: reason anybody does it now is because it comes with
Speaker 2: dangling carrots from the government incentives, you know, discount loans
Speaker 2: or freebies or cash infusions, tax ride offs or write downs.
Speaker 2: It's a fake way of creating something that seems reasonable,
Speaker 2: and yet it is a deficit inspiring. It is a
Speaker 2: government expanding reality.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is.
Speaker 3: And I think you know, from a Hudson and Stute standpoint,
Speaker 3: one of the things that worries me is and I'm
Speaker 3: not saying that windmills are solar panels are bad by
Speaker 3: all means. They have their place, but they have their
Speaker 3: place in the toolbox. But just like you can't use
Speaker 3: a hammer for everything you do around your house, although
Speaker 3: I've tried before, it doesn't work. You need different tools
Speaker 3: for different project. That's the same thing with our energy mix.
Speaker 3: You do need different tools, but you can't get there
Speaker 3: just on one piece. So if we were actually serious
Speaker 3: about this, instead of saying you must use this energy,
Speaker 3: not that energy, government regulators should be more like referees. Hey,
Speaker 3: here is the goal, no pun intended. We want to
Speaker 3: reduce X. We want to promote Y. You guys figure
Speaker 3: out how to do it, and we'll make sure nobody's
Speaker 3: cheating and level the playing field. The government should be
Speaker 3: the referee, not the micromanager. Yes, but in a green
Speaker 3: energy focused discussion.
Speaker 2: These all require manufacturing, for example, batteries or as they
Speaker 2: go back to batteries because China apparently is core to
Speaker 2: the market and literally everything you need to create a battery,
Speaker 2: and also manufacturing. Now I know we're building manufacturing capacity here.
Speaker 2: It takes a little time, but the key ingredients are
Speaker 2: still coming from China.
Speaker 1: They are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we are building China's economy and resources and
Speaker 2: by corollary, military because we have to buy everything that
Speaker 2: this forced green economy has pushed on us and it
Speaker 2: comes from China.
Speaker 3: Our hard earned dollars are going to China. We're losing money,
Speaker 3: they're gaining money. And the corollary is if we look
Speaker 3: back to the Arab oil embargo of seventy five and
Speaker 3: how America went from energy abundance during World War Two
Speaker 3: to scraping, begging, pleading with Opek for a little oil,
Speaker 3: it weakened us economically, It weakened our security, It weakened
Speaker 3: our standing in the world. Where you have energy dominance,
Speaker 3: energy security, energy abundance, you have what we call hard
Speaker 3: power and soft power, you can convince people to do things,
Speaker 3: and your economy is strong. And what we're treating and
Speaker 3: having now reached energy and dependence, there are people that
Speaker 3: want to take us back to the past. But it's
Speaker 3: not OPEC. It's going to be China that we're dependent
Speaker 3: upon for everything we do. That's a terrible plan.
Speaker 2: Well that seems to be. You know, after COVID, it
Speaker 2: was a bunch of eyes finally open up to that reality.
Speaker 2: From masks to pharmaceuticals to medical equipment, at literally everything
Speaker 2: it was because China was supplying it. We had no
Speaker 2: local manufacturers or resource to provide us with much needed
Speaker 2: equipment and goods.
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, you know, globalization, it's given us cheaper stuff.
Speaker 3: We all like cheap stuff, but you know, look around
Speaker 3: your house, look at your Amazon order next time. How
Speaker 3: much of it comes from anywhere other than China. And
Speaker 3: people are starting to wake up because China steals every design. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they take everything that we've been given because in their culture,
Speaker 3: there is no such thing as private property interest.
Speaker 1: It's all. It's all for the mass people's property. That's right.
Speaker 2: See, that's where politics centers into the equation, providing them
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Speaker 2: Happy Friday to you Bryan Thomas with Brigha McCowen in studios,
Speaker 2: the Senior Fellow Director of Initiative on American Energy Energy
Speaker 2: Security at the Hudson Institute Energy Security Security. That's an
Speaker 2: interesting word there, Brigha McCowen, because we don't seem to
Speaker 2: really have much security. And as the population of the
Speaker 2: world increases, as you mentioned before, obviously necessarily the amount
Speaker 2: of electricity we need is going to increase. Without electricity,
Speaker 2: you don't have any form of well standard of living, right,
Speaker 2: I mean the countries without plumbing, for example, you need
Speaker 2: pumps to pump water. Pumps are driven by electricity, right.
Speaker 2: You know, you want air conditioning because place is hotter
Speaker 2: than hell, You're gonna need air conditioning, electrics, I mean
Speaker 2: state in the obvious. But it's just it's inextricably intertwined
Speaker 2: with everything we do.
Speaker 1: It really is.
Speaker 3: And you know, I think we've taken for granted for
Speaker 3: at least as long as I've been around. You flipped
Speaker 3: the light switch and it's going to come on. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it works, right. You go to the gas station, Eh,
Speaker 3: most of the time anyway, there's gas in the pump.
Speaker 3: You go places, it just all works and I think
Speaker 3: that's the complacency that worries me certainly, is that we've
Speaker 3: taken it for granted. But you know, look at the
Speaker 3: price of the pump, look at what electricity rates are,
Speaker 3: look where things are headed.
Speaker 2: Well in the electricity rates are going to go up again.
Speaker 2: I presume the Public Utility Commission of how it is
Speaker 2: going to prove the duke energy rate increase. Now, they'll
Speaker 2: stand back and say, well, it's only an extra one
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty bucks over three years or whatever. But
Speaker 2: we've seen a precipitous increase in electricity prices. And what
Speaker 2: they need this rate increase for, part of which, anyway,
Speaker 2: I know, is to deal with for green energy. They
Speaker 2: want to buy some of these massive battery storage facilities
Speaker 2: or create battery storage facilities. So when the wind is
Speaker 2: blowing and electricity is being generated by that windmill, they
Speaker 2: get to put it into a battery and then when
Speaker 2: the inevitable happens and the wind stops blowing and electricity
Speaker 2: is not being produced, they go hook it up.
Speaker 1: To the battery. Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know the problem with that is if we took
Speaker 3: all battery capacity in the United States, plugged it all in,
Speaker 3: got it all ready assumed it was all working, and
Speaker 3: we turned everything off, it would last a couple of seconds.
Speaker 3: It's not a viable alternation, and it's extremely expensive when
Speaker 3: you have right nuclear power, where you have natural gas
Speaker 3: fired electricity generators, when you have other means that are
Speaker 3: far cheaper. You know, the government is trying to turn
Speaker 3: the utilities into an extension of the government, and the
Speaker 3: utilities are like, hey, we have to do this because
Speaker 3: the government's requiring it, and nobody cares because they just
Speaker 3: it's passed the buck. It's passed the buck to you,
Speaker 3: it's passed the buck to me. We're are the only
Speaker 3: ones that are ultimately going to feel the pinch. Everything
Speaker 3: else just to pass through.
Speaker 2: Well, it's well, like my comment on taxes on corporation,
Speaker 2: those evil money making entities that employ everybody, the more
Speaker 2: you tax them, the more expensive the products or services
Speaker 2: they provide are going to be.
Speaker 1: It's a pass through. It's a pass through part of
Speaker 1: doing business like anything else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's one of the concerns I
Speaker 3: have with some folks in government and some folks that
Speaker 3: want to continue to be in government, is that there
Speaker 3: is this notion that corporations are rich, that they all
Speaker 3: have money trees out back of their headquarters. This doesn't exist.
Speaker 3: This is a fallacy, and you know, sadly it can
Speaker 3: make us out of mind. Are we going to be
Speaker 3: competitive in the world? Are we going to be uncompetitive
Speaker 3: in the world. Because if we want to be competitive,
Speaker 3: if we want to be exceptional, if we want to
Speaker 3: house the data centers, if we want to be at
Speaker 3: the top of our game, then we better have good
Speaker 3: people that are educated. We need to figure out a
Speaker 3: way to extract more raw materials, and we better have
Speaker 3: cheap energy prices. It's that simple. It's really not hard.
Speaker 2: It's not hard, but that concept as salable as is
Speaker 2: to anybody in my listening audience, like, well, no kidd
Speaker 2: we want to be competitive, no kidding, we want to
Speaker 2: be the best, no kidding, we want to be the strongest.
Speaker 2: That is not the mindset of the many, many many
Speaker 2: people in government elected and otherwise. They don't want us
Speaker 2: to be the strongest nation in the world. They don't
Speaker 2: want us to be the most successful. We are an
Speaker 2: illustration in their mind of something that is evil and
Speaker 2: should be avoided because we're rapacious, we use too many resources,
Speaker 2: we're too successful, and damn it, we've got too much stuff.
Speaker 2: We need to share it with the rest of the
Speaker 2: world because of our success.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to your point, the people that are saying this,
Speaker 3: I call them members of the global cocktail Club.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, they're curson.
Speaker 2: Of the private jet of their yacht and harumph and
Speaker 2: complain about the little people and their carbon production and
Speaker 2: the masses and what needs to be done to them
Speaker 2: to get them under their thumb.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, that that is the bottom line.
Speaker 3: And you know, where there is independence, whether it's energy independence,
Speaker 3: financial independence, whatever you want to talk about. You have choices,
Speaker 3: you have power, you have literally personal independence. That's what
Speaker 3: we want. That's what we want for all Americans. That's
Speaker 3: what at least that's what we want for all Americans.
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, the people running the government, most
Speaker 3: of them have never had a private sector job in
Speaker 3: their entire life.
Speaker 1: And that is the problem.
Speaker 3: When I go to Europe, people have alphabet soup behind
Speaker 3: their name, and I'll say, say, so, where have you worked,
Speaker 3: And you know what, it's academia, it's government, it's nonprofits.
Speaker 2: There's no private sector experience. And I bet you ran
Speaker 2: into a whole lot of word salads when you were
Speaker 2: over there in hunt.
Speaker 1: Let's pause.
Speaker 2: We'll bring back Brigerman when you get his se He
Speaker 2: does have some thoughts on immigration as well, because it
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Speaker 2: energy policy since he is the senior Fellow on Innovative
Speaker 2: on I'm sorry, the Innovative on American Energy Security Initiative.
Speaker 1: Rather so I get it out Brigham. It is.
Speaker 2: It is a Friday, but let me pivot. He in
Speaker 2: a nuclear We talked earlier, just briefly about the idea
Speaker 2: of reopening one of the reactors at three Mile Island
Speaker 2: for the purposes of providing Microsoft atdequate electricity for its
Speaker 2: artificial intelligence center. Other artificial intelligence centers are popping up
Speaker 2: where they similarly need these energy demands. And so now
Speaker 2: it seems that it has opened up the door to
Speaker 2: consideration of nuclear power. Oh lo, and behold, all the
Speaker 2: time they've been pushing us to rely on a windmill,
Speaker 2: I'm screaming over here, what about nuclear power? It doesn't
Speaker 2: produce the carbon that they're so worried about. The new
Speaker 2: modern nuclear plants are what they call modular, which means
Speaker 2: one size fits all. It doesn't have to be individually
Speaker 2: designed and created for any specific location. It's like legos.
Speaker 2: You just pick a space, pop it down. We can
Speaker 2: deal with the waste. There's not that much waste overall
Speaker 2: that comes from nuclear power. I mean, it's it's documented.
Speaker 2: They had the yucka Mountain thing. They could have stored
Speaker 2: all the nuclear waste in the entire country for one
Speaker 2: hundred years and never would have been filled.
Speaker 1: Whatever the stats are, the wakay see you years ago?
Speaker 1: Tell me I'm wrong? Is anything I said wrong?
Speaker 3: No, you're absolutely right. I eat a national depository and
Speaker 3: we have one.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, moving over our discussion about the reality behind
Speaker 2: the Green New Deal is that we're too powerful. We
Speaker 2: need to redistribute our wealth, and we have too much stuff.
Speaker 2: What about these third world countries? We need to offshore
Speaker 2: money and develop them. Nuclear power here in the United
Speaker 2: States would eradicate the ability to bring us to our
Speaker 2: knees Economically, we would have all the power we want.
Speaker 2: We could be the most powerful, mighty energy producer on
Speaker 2: the planet, and we wouldn't be producing a single ounce
Speaker 2: or molecule of carbon dioxide.
Speaker 1: That's why they don't want it.
Speaker 3: All right, let me give you this is very complicated.
Speaker 3: Let me give you a very complicated answer.
Speaker 2: Yes, so I've been right all along and in my conclusions. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it flies in the face of the reality of
Speaker 2: what they really want, which is to bring us down.
Speaker 1: It does. And you know, I've got this handy app here.
Speaker 3: I was just looking Germany right now, right now, in Germany,
Speaker 3: about eighty percent of their electricity.
Speaker 1: Is from.
Speaker 3: Generation at the moment. Let's go next door to France.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, they're about sixty percent nuclear.
Speaker 1: Oh, look at this.
Speaker 3: France is ninety nine percent low carbon producing electricity.
Speaker 1: Right now because nuclear.
Speaker 3: It's nuclear, and they have one of the cheapest rates,
Speaker 3: their citizens enjoy a very cheap electricity. Sure they're more
Speaker 3: expensive to build on the front end, but these things
Speaker 3: last a long time.
Speaker 1: Fifty years.
Speaker 3: We can build one hundred year reactor now it's just
Speaker 3: a matter of updating it. So yeah, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: I think in retrospect, we've had a couple of things
Speaker 3: go on. Three Mile Island certainly is something that people remember,
Speaker 3: and it's not that reactor they're restarting, it's the.
Speaker 1: One next one next to right.
Speaker 2: And then, uh, modern nuclear actors are different than the
Speaker 2: type they had at Three Mile Island.
Speaker 1: If they're different.
Speaker 3: When somebody says three Mile Island Chernobyl Fukushima, we go, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's like saying I want a nineteen sixty five International
Speaker 3: Harvester SUV truck thing. It's different today, and they're far safer,
Speaker 3: they use far less uranium or uranium drive products, and
Speaker 3: it's really where we ought to be headed. But we
Speaker 3: have an agency that's supposed to permit nuclear facilities that
Speaker 3: has spent its entire life as an agency trying not to.
Speaker 1: Permit any exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: And then the environmental lawsuits come in in these last
Speaker 2: ten years and then they have a change in permitting
Speaker 2: because somebody in government says no, no, you need to
Speaker 2: reapply and it starts to process all over again. So
Speaker 2: from start to finish you look at it almost like
Speaker 2: two decades to get a nuclear power plant build. That's
Speaker 2: the administrative state standing in the way.
Speaker 3: It absolutely is in Poland, for example, and in Hungary
Speaker 3: a couple other places. They're also moving toward nuclear power.
Speaker 3: In the South Koreans, the Japanese and others are actually
Speaker 3: getting those contracts because they can actually build a nuclear
Speaker 3: plant in a couple of years, and we can do
Speaker 3: the same. And one of the proposals we've looked at
Speaker 3: at Hudson I'll talk more about this on my next
Speaker 3: episode of Charged Conversations the podcast is we can license
Speaker 3: two or three different types of reactors, different sizes, and
Speaker 3: once they're licensed.
Speaker 1: You just build the same one. That's the point.
Speaker 3: Quit trying to tweak it. You have a license, you
Speaker 3: build it. But these data centers, Brian can require anywhere
Speaker 3: from one to five gigawatts gigawatts. This isn't like back
Speaker 3: to the future. This is real of energy. That could
Speaker 3: be two to four nuclear plants just to power a
Speaker 3: five gigawatt facility.
Speaker 2: And if AI is the future and we don't have
Speaker 2: the energy to power AI facilities, I guess they're going
Speaker 2: to be in China, then, aren't they. It's the answer
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Speaker 2: Police Department pivoty back over Charged Conversations Brigham and I
Speaker 2: bring him agwn from the Hudson and Who've been talking
Speaker 2: energy policy all hour. It's fascinating stuff, but honestly, even
Speaker 2: in an hour's time on the morning show, we're only
Speaker 2: kind of really scratching the surface of it. Ten thousand
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Speaker 1: How often you do?
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Speaker 2: charge conversations and learn a lot more. And if you
Speaker 2: were hearing Brigham, he was talking about this app he
Speaker 2: has on his phone. What is it?
Speaker 1: What is that app called? Again?
Speaker 2: Because it's fascinating. I mean, you can look at the globe,
Speaker 2: how much people are paying, how much carbon production there is,
Speaker 2: what type of energy is being generated in any given country,
Speaker 2: even on a state by state level here in the
Speaker 2: United States.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's certain.
Speaker 3: What you call electricity maps And I just learned about
Speaker 3: it a week ago, so I'm still trying to figure
Speaker 3: it out.
Speaker 2: But just one word electricitymaps dot com that it. It's well,
Speaker 2: it's an app, So you go to your app store.
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, fire it up. But I do think you
Speaker 3: can go to the website too and electricity map. Yeah,
Speaker 3: check it out. It's got a lot of good information.
Speaker 3: You can become informed about where your energy.
Speaker 2: Comes from well, and just be aware of the backcrop
Speaker 2: insanity going on in Europe. Germany cutting its own throat.
Speaker 2: And you know when you talk about manufacturing leaving Germany
Speaker 2: of the entire European Union, Germany was the powerhouse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you can take almost every other EU
Speaker 3: country and combine it in at equalled Germany. But Germany
Speaker 3: has lost a lot of ground. And you know we
Speaker 3: have Europeans saying Germany's on its way to becoming an
Speaker 3: open air museum. Oh that's heartbreaking, it really is, because
Speaker 3: they used to have their act together more.
Speaker 2: Oh Man, when you mentioned manufacturing, the first thing that
Speaker 2: would pop in anybody who has any sense of understanding
Speaker 2: about the quality. Yeah, Germany was always number one in
Speaker 2: terms of quality. Yes, German parts always costed more, but
Speaker 2: they had superior quality, superior engineering, and I just we
Speaker 2: just can't count on that anymore.
Speaker 1: It's really frustrating.
Speaker 3: Even the trains don't run on time now, which is
Speaker 3: which is really if you're a German you've been to Germany,
Speaker 3: that is like the ultimate insult that the Deutsche Bahn
Speaker 3: doesn't work correctly.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2: Well, I think you and I both really do know
Speaker 2: what's going on. It's global communism, Marxism, socialism, called it,
Speaker 2: whatever label you want. Their control over us, depriving us
Speaker 2: of what we need to be more comfortable, happier and
Speaker 2: more productive and wealthier. That's a no no among those circles.
Speaker 2: Briga mccawam. We'll be talking again soon. I hope I'll
Speaker 2: be a wonderful weekend. And thanks for spending time in
Speaker 2: studio with my listeners and me today, Folks, stick around
Speaker 2: After the top of the Air news. Author Tim Rivers
Speaker 2: he's going to return. He was on the show in
Speaker 2: January to talk about his book American Goulag. We have
Speaker 2: some updates to go over with Tim after the top
Speaker 2: of the Air news. Hope you can stick around.
Speaker 1: What's wrong with German people thanking?
Speaker 2: Sure them there they can change your cards the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four election, It doesn't matter. This is done on
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