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Speaker 2: the full Scott's Dazzle going on here yet, but it
Speaker 2: is close. And if that is a hint, I know.
Speaker 2: We're supposed to keep our podcast evergreen be four times
Speaker 2: a year we do sort of time and season specific
Speaker 2: episodes where we put out a APB on the socials
Speaker 2: and the interwebs asking you guys to send emails, messages, letters,
Speaker 2: whatever that are related to the particular season we are tackling.
Speaker 2: We do our holiday mail bag, we do our Spring
Speaker 2: Fling mail bag, we do our Summer Love.
Speaker 4: And mail bag.
Speaker 2: And the one that gets a little bit of the
Speaker 2: short shrift, which always does, is our Autumn one, our
Speaker 2: fall in Love mailbag. And if you have listened to
Speaker 2: me on this podcast before, you know that. I am very,
Speaker 2: very pro Autumn. I think it has a bad publicist.
Speaker 2: I think spring is overrated. There's no such thing as
Speaker 2: spring in most cities. It goes from pouring rain to
Speaker 2: boiling hot. Spring has a really good publicist, and people
Speaker 2: fall in love with rebirth and flowers, and February sucks
Speaker 2: most places.
Speaker 4: So that's it.
Speaker 2: Fall is the time. Fall is the best season of
Speaker 2: the year. I couldn't take this on myself, so I
Speaker 2: have a full house in here today. I don't know
Speaker 2: the last time I've had three people who are in
Speaker 2: here who are going to help me do this. First
Speaker 2: of all, producer extraordinaire. She's the director of operations here
Speaker 2: at pod popular podcast for the people.
Speaker 4: Megan, how are you hello your podcast debut?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, are you nervous?
Speaker 5: Nop?
Speaker 4: Have you had a conversation before?
Speaker 3: What's the definition of conversation?
Speaker 4: You'll be fine?
Speaker 2: And I brought in two heavy hitters. One you've heard
Speaker 2: him on this podcast many times, but not in a while.
Speaker 2: He is the host of the very very popular Secrets
Speaker 2: of a Sugar Daddy podcast, which I actually just guessed on.
Speaker 4: It's pretty good.
Speaker 5: Marcus, welcome back, Thank you, Yeah, we had a great episode.
Speaker 5: You guys need to catch Brian and Megan. You talk
Speaker 5: a lot when we're here, so I have no doubt
Speaker 5: you'll have plenty to say.
Speaker 2: Don't try and lure her into your sugar world. Somebody
Speaker 2: who has been he's making his debut here. He is
Speaker 2: apparently a knee deep? Is that the term in the
Speaker 2: sugar world? Jay? How are you good?
Speaker 6: Good to meet you guys.
Speaker 2: I asked you Argo, are you a sugar daddy? And
Speaker 2: your answer said, oh yeah, oh yeah, full on, full on?
Speaker 4: When did that start?
Speaker 7: Oh, let's see, it's gott gradually more serious. I think
Speaker 7: the more time I've spent in Phoenix, so and a
Speaker 7: lot of it thinks.
Speaker 6: It's like a buff right, That's what I call it.
Speaker 6: It is a buffet.
Speaker 2: What is the advantage of being a sugar daddy here? No,
Speaker 2: the old Charlie Sheen line, you're not paying them for sex,
Speaker 2: You're paying them to leave.
Speaker 6: They don't seem to believe.
Speaker 7: But I think just the fact that the city has
Speaker 7: just millions of people, You're just gonna have an environment
Speaker 7: where you're gonna have more possibilities and more chances of
Speaker 7: finding somebody that is attracted to you and you're attracted
Speaker 7: to them. If you're coming from a small place, a
Speaker 7: small town is very very challenging just because there are
Speaker 7: n't even single people around. Whereas you go to a
Speaker 7: big city like here in New York Chicago, it just enables.
Speaker 4: You to and where are you from?
Speaker 7: Originally I lived in California for about like fifteen twenty years,
Speaker 7: and then before that I was in New York, and
Speaker 7: now I'm in Colorado.
Speaker 4: A little California's filled with big cities.
Speaker 7: Yeah, surprisingly, I was in this smaller town along the coast,
Speaker 7: and because the town was kind of like a sleepy town.
Speaker 7: It's a beautiful place, but there's not many single people.
Speaker 7: It was very challenging and it kind of affected my
Speaker 7: psychology and kind of thinking that because I wasn't able
Speaker 7: to find what I was looking for, I just thought
Speaker 7: that maybe like I didn't have as much to offer
Speaker 7: as a result, But it was more indicative of the
Speaker 7: location I was in, Okay, and then obviously having been
Speaker 7: in New York, having been in Phoenix, some of the
Speaker 7: bigger places.
Speaker 2: The American Express black card goes farther here exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if I hate Satar. I
Speaker 2: like to say it Scottsdale and the valley here it's
Speaker 2: ground zero for the sugar sugar world.
Speaker 5: We feel it is after traveling to a lot of
Speaker 5: different cities. Jay has been to all over the world,
Speaker 5: but the talent walking around this area is second to none.
Speaker 2: It is. I don't know why that is, but it is. Anyway,
Speaker 2: do you guys understand how we're doing this here? We've
Speaker 2: got six letters, We've we've wheedled whittled it down, three
Speaker 2: from the men, three from the boys, and you guys
Speaker 2: are going to give your opinion on some fairly split
Speaker 2: down the middle things. I don't know how I feel.
Speaker 2: I did a sneak peak on these, and I haven't
Speaker 2: really done that before, but I looked because I'm like, ooh,
Speaker 2: I don't know how I feel about a lot of them.
Speaker 2: You guys ready, let's do it all right. The first
Speaker 2: one is from Kayla via our Facebook page. Brian lots
Speaker 2: of buzz recently about the controversy surrounding having a Saturday
Speaker 2: in the Fall wedding because of the conflict for a
Speaker 2: lot of guys, and to be fair, women too, who
Speaker 2: want to watch college football at exactly that same time.
Speaker 2: I think if your actual alma mater isn't playing during
Speaker 2: the ceremony or reception, it isn't a big deal.
Speaker 4: But I am torn.
Speaker 2: I can see both sides thoughts, And this is a
Speaker 2: thing now that men people are freaking out because during
Speaker 2: the reception there's a TV in the other room and
Speaker 2: all of the people are watching college football, and a
Speaker 2: lot of people are criticizing the couple or specifically the
Speaker 2: bride for choosing a date that on a Saturday. In
Speaker 2: a lot of the country, people are preoccupied. Are you
Speaker 2: aware of this?
Speaker 5: I am aware of this because this happened to be
Speaker 5: in Chicago. I was just recently there and we flew
Speaker 5: there on a Thursday night, and I'm a big Dallas
Speaker 5: Cowboys fan. Here i am with my girl and I'm
Speaker 5: trying to sneak peaks on my phone of the Dallas
Speaker 5: game because it was the first one of the season
Speaker 5: and it was really close and it was a good game.
Speaker 5: So I'm just I'm a little distracted. And she noticed
Speaker 5: and definitely made some comments about it, so that that
Speaker 5: can be an sure though.
Speaker 4: So that let's just say so this the NFL. That's
Speaker 4: an NFL thing.
Speaker 2: NFL schedule comes out in May, You're only talking, you know,
Speaker 2: four months, so that's lead time on a wedding. If
Speaker 2: you're planning a wedding a year or so in advance,
Speaker 2: you are seeing that fall calendar. And if you went
Speaker 2: to you know, University Georgia, Ohio State, any of these schools,
Speaker 2: you know that there's probably something there that a good
Speaker 2: portion of your wedding party or guests are gonna be curious.
Speaker 2: I'm not a big college football guy, so it doesn't
Speaker 2: really affect me. But I I've been at weddings where
Speaker 2: nobody's on the dance floor because it's the fourth court.
Speaker 3: Megan, I, I don't. I don't think it should be
Speaker 3: a problem. The way I see. It's like there's so
Speaker 3: many games. And this is coming from a college girly
Speaker 3: shout out to my Notre Dame. For sure, I've never
Speaker 3: missed a game, But when it's your friend, you're at
Speaker 3: a wedding, it's one time, well one Saturday out of
Speaker 3: the whole year, and you literally don't don't RSVP to
Speaker 3: the next wedding.
Speaker 2: Well, I agree with you on that, but when you
Speaker 2: say and I agree, I'm like, you're at the wedding whatever,
Speaker 2: but it's the most special day of hopefully both of
Speaker 2: their lives, and you should be respectful of that. But
Speaker 2: when you put out there it's just one game. Well,
Speaker 2: in a college football season, just one game can wreck
Speaker 2: or make a season. So you know, you better, you
Speaker 2: better stay away from the Like if you went to
Speaker 2: Michigan and you're scheduling your wedding as you see Thanksgiving
Speaker 2: weekend Michigan Ohio State around on the same day as
Speaker 2: the Michigan Ohio State game, and half of your your
Speaker 2: party went to that school, it's a fuck up and
Speaker 2: you do have to steer clear of that landmine, regardless
Speaker 2: of how you feel it about it.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, or you just marry somebody that's not into sports.
Speaker 2: What the guests are, Oh, the guest, that's that's the problem.
Speaker 5: That is true.
Speaker 4: You know, I know, I know a girl from from Cleveland.
Speaker 2: She didn't realize how big a fan of Ohio State
Speaker 2: her husband was until their wedding day. Until they're literally
Speaker 2: getting married that day and the game is on in
Speaker 2: the other room and.
Speaker 4: He left the head table to go watch the game.
Speaker 2: She had no idea.
Speaker 3: You'll already know you know those things before like you're
Speaker 3: your partner again. If you're getting married one year, you
Speaker 3: definitely watched to watch the Ohio game last Like you're
Speaker 3: you're going to understand your partner, And I really hope
Speaker 3: you would understand if you knew what game your partner's
Speaker 3: like to watch before you got married.
Speaker 2: There's a chance, though, so let's break that down. I
Speaker 2: agree with you normally, but let's just say you're a
Speaker 2: fan of of Georgia Tech football. Most years, Georgia Tech
Speaker 2: is not great, they're they're okay. And so let's just
Speaker 2: say you've dated your partner for two years. First year,
Speaker 2: you don't really notice how big a fan they are
Speaker 2: because they're three.
Speaker 4: And nine and nobody cares.
Speaker 2: But then suddenly during your wedding year, this is their
Speaker 2: bull season. They're going all out, and then suddenly it
Speaker 2: matters to them. There's a lot of fickle fandom that
Speaker 2: you are really, you know, trying to not hit a
Speaker 2: bullseye on that, right.
Speaker 5: I just think you need to be understanding and realizing
Speaker 5: so too. But that is what you've done when you
Speaker 5: schedule something during the false.
Speaker 2: I agree, but you also can't be that upset if
Speaker 2: the guests are a little preoccupied now.
Speaker 3: Right now, something I would do is reception just because
Speaker 3: the wedding. And sometimes a lot of these are the venues.
Speaker 3: Like I have a lot of friends that are getting
Speaker 3: married over Thanksgiving weekend because literally it's the one we
Speaker 3: can no one does, it's cheaper, that's the only one
Speaker 3: they could get. But you could move the venue. You're like, reception,
Speaker 3: sports bar, right, a big deal? Why are we not in?
Speaker 3: It's a party drinking, Let's watch the game. Like if
Speaker 3: that's I disagree. If I am the bride after party,
Speaker 3: watching the game.
Speaker 2: After party is different. That's usually later. If I'm the
Speaker 2: bride and people are watching the game versus it's time
Speaker 2: to cut the cake, it's time to throw the bouquet,
Speaker 2: it's time to dance, and they're not paying attention to me,
Speaker 2: I'm probably getting divorced, Like I want that spotlight to
Speaker 2: be on me.
Speaker 3: DVR, I don't know. And then like do the reception
Speaker 3: after where you're like, yeah, we're watching, but unfortunately it's
Speaker 3: just one day, one game. It's going to it will
Speaker 3: go on.
Speaker 7: Okay, Well I can offer my opinions because I've had
Speaker 7: a wedding that I mean, there wasn't a college game on.
Speaker 7: But the sentiment that I got was that the wedding
Speaker 7: was mostly for her and her family. And I was
Speaker 7: literally told to stand on some corner to like just
Speaker 7: walk in when I'm ready, Whereas like she had an
Speaker 7: entourage of like bride maids party.
Speaker 6: And I was exciting there by myself.
Speaker 7: And not to say that it's uh, you know, it
Speaker 7: didn't mean anything to me, But I feel like the
Speaker 7: wedding for the most.
Speaker 6: Part, is for the woman.
Speaker 2: Like her day.
Speaker 6: It was her day.
Speaker 7: It was her to be beautiful, it was her to
Speaker 7: be the the center of attention. It was her family
Speaker 7: and friends.
Speaker 2: They were there.
Speaker 7: I mean I had my friends there too, But for
Speaker 7: the most part, I felt like it was something very
Speaker 7: special for the woman. It's something that women plan for
Speaker 7: literally since they were a childhood.
Speaker 4: Women dream of their wedding day.
Speaker 2: The man dreams of his wedding, the marriage, the marriage
Speaker 2: exactly that men are fundamentally more romantic on that the
Speaker 2: women a lot of times look at the wedding days
Speaker 2: the destination.
Speaker 4: He looks at that as the beginning.
Speaker 2: So props the guys on that now now that you're
Speaker 2: a sugar daddy, is wedding off the table for you,
Speaker 2: his marriage still the possibility.
Speaker 4: You're like, I'm not going back.
Speaker 7: It would have to be a person pretty special to
Speaker 7: get you out of this. Well, I mean, i came
Speaker 7: out of my divorce at about thirty five percent of
Speaker 7: what I have now, and I'm on good terms with
Speaker 7: my ex, Like I'm giving her a el's not alone
Speaker 7: for her house like today, So I don't have any
Speaker 7: animosity towards her. I mean, if anything else, I want
Speaker 7: to keep helping her to a certain level. And we're
Speaker 7: staying pretty civil and friends and whatever. But the cost
Speaker 7: of just extracting yourself from a marriage is so great
Speaker 7: that it's it is like I'm sure I've heard this
Speaker 7: many times, is that the rebuilding, it is an incredible
Speaker 7: process for a man just his idea of it's just
Speaker 7: his identity, his and then literally like you become dependents
Speaker 7: of the person for so many facets of your life
Speaker 7: and you don't.
Speaker 6: Even know how to pay a freaking bill.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so that even took like a while to figure out.
Speaker 7: And not to say that I wouldn't really want to
Speaker 7: have a person that I can rely on and have
Speaker 7: a partner, but I've now seen the cost associated with
Speaker 7: the divorce.
Speaker 5: Part, so choose wisely, choose very nicely.
Speaker 2: The cost is then.
Speaker 5: It was eighty twenty split for me and she got
Speaker 5: eighty percent. I got twenty.
Speaker 4: That sounds about it.
Speaker 2: I see. I've never been married, so I'm still hopeful.
Speaker 2: I'm like the happily ever after it still exists, and
Speaker 2: I believe in all that. But all the divorced people
Speaker 2: are like, fuck.
Speaker 4: That, all right.
Speaker 2: Next one, this is from Michael in Temecula. I started
Speaker 2: dating this amazing woman earlier this year. We are both divorced,
Speaker 2: each have two kids, love the same activities and travel destinations.
Speaker 4: All is great.
Speaker 2: We recently had our first big fight and it's not
Speaker 2: over yet. It's about Halloween. Not only do I not
Speaker 2: usually celebrate and probably haven't worn a costume since my twenties,
Speaker 2: she is adamant that we do it together, a week
Speaker 2: of parties, matching and complementing costumes. It's a really big
Speaker 2: deal to her. I adore her, and normally I would
Speaker 2: go along with whatever she liked, no big deal. But
Speaker 2: this is such a big deal to her that it's alarming.
Speaker 2: She's treating this like Marty Grau, where every night for
Speaker 2: a week is a parade and she has like four
Speaker 2: or five different costumes in mind help.
Speaker 5: I know so many women that are just like this,
Speaker 5: I really do. I've met them now indebted them.
Speaker 2: I am somebody and people who listen to this podcast, no,
Speaker 2: I feel this way. I'm somebody who doesn't do Halloween.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: That being said, I'm very pro Halloween because the day
Speaker 2: of the year that the most people are the most
Speaker 2: confident in America is Halloween. Halloween is about being liberated
Speaker 2: to be anything you want to be without fear of judgment.
Speaker 2: I think that's good. I think that costume confidence is
Speaker 2: a wonder thing to have. That being said, like, I'm
Speaker 2: pretty confident. I don't like give a shit, but I
Speaker 2: have never been really in a relationship where she's like,
Speaker 2: I'm share you're gonna be Sonny, and I'm like, what.
Speaker 5: I actually like when the woman chooses my outfit. It
Speaker 5: just helps solve that problem because now I'm not trying
Speaker 5: to figure the w Don't you feel like a prop
Speaker 5: Well you know what, Grandon Barrett, just get past it.
Speaker 5: It just is what it is.
Speaker 2: Have you ever done every like? Because that is a thing.
Speaker 2: Now depending on when Halloween falls, if it falls, on
Speaker 2: a Wednesday, you have the actual Halloween, and then you
Speaker 2: have the Saturday before and you have it. There is
Speaker 2: a lot of multiple cosplay. Culture is a really.
Speaker 3: Big two weekends. Last year it was two weekends. This
Speaker 3: year it's another like two weekends of just playing, like
Speaker 3: all my friends are planning back, you know, the weekend before,
Speaker 3: the weekend after. Because even though a Saturday I think
Speaker 3: is like technically the first like we're still doing a
Speaker 3: Halloween party, going to a Halloween event. So it's like
Speaker 3: it's a huge thing. The amount of this woman loves Halloween.
Speaker 3: It made me really debate which is worse, the Halloween
Speaker 3: adult or a Disney adult.
Speaker 2: I think that was Disney adults are talking about.
Speaker 3: Decorating and going places. I'm like, oh, I thought they're
Speaker 3: going to meet.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of couples dressing up at Disney World.
Speaker 4: I've seen that.
Speaker 2: That being said, where do you stand on this? If
Speaker 2: she's like there should be a compromise here, like we
Speaker 2: do one night, I'll do one, But it doesn't sound
Speaker 2: like that's okay with her.
Speaker 3: I feel like the compromise comes down to two words.
Speaker 3: Floody costume. We especially here in scot I was like,
Speaker 3: you're telling me that I can't get a sexy nurse
Speaker 3: Jackie astume. You can be Hannibal lector if you want.
Speaker 3: And who says that a few drinks after the party
Speaker 3: doesn't lead to some fun role play afterwards. Like, I
Speaker 3: think this is a win win for both if you
Speaker 3: strategize properly, you know, give and take. I need you
Speaker 3: to go to this party and act like a whatever
Speaker 3: animal or whatever thing it is, and then you can
Speaker 3: come back and do that again.
Speaker 5: I know, I don't think this is Megan's first thoughts on.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know she had a philosophy, sugar Jay, What
Speaker 2: do you think?
Speaker 7: I had one girlfriend that she was willy into costumes
Speaker 7: and she made this elaborate Jack Sparrow costume from me.
Speaker 7: Oh cool, and she like could make up on me
Speaker 7: and she like did all like it was incredible, and
Speaker 7: I was like a prop because she was the Mermaid.
Speaker 2: I went to a Halloween party once and I wasn't
Speaker 2: in much of a costume. It's like fifteen years ago,
Speaker 2: and I met this girl and she was like the
Speaker 2: hottest Cruela Deville, Like she was gorgeous, and I met her,
Speaker 2: I talked to her, got her number asked her out,
Speaker 2: went to get her on a date Thursday, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: what happened to the wig? What happened? Like she didn't
Speaker 2: look anything like that? And I'm like, can we go
Speaker 2: back to costume Cruela du Well? Like like she was
Speaker 2: so hot at the Halloween party And I'm like, h
Speaker 2: she should wear that all the time. Maybe tells more
Speaker 2: about me. But I think you're right. I think you know.
Speaker 2: I asked this girl last year, like what are you
Speaker 2: gonna be for Halloween?
Speaker 4: She goes a cop? I go what kind of cop?
Speaker 4: She goes a hot cop.
Speaker 2: I'm like, uh, sorry, I didn't that was the thing.
Speaker 2: But your answer is right, Like I think Megan wrong here,
Speaker 2: I wait till the end.
Speaker 3: I'm probably the person that picks the night before, maybe
Speaker 3: even the day of, and people are like, what do
Speaker 3: you Ho's like, I don't know, slutty something like, it's
Speaker 3: just like there's always something in the closet.
Speaker 5: Well, don't we don't discourage that.
Speaker 2: The business model of the of the Halloween the pop
Speaker 2: up stores is a very smart that's like a billion
Speaker 2: dollar business. They just look for vacant real estate.
Speaker 5: Sen there's already one near my house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what are that's called spirits? Yeah, spirits. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's gonna sign leases. He's like, we're gonna be a
Speaker 2: business for six weeks. It's like the Christmas treat thing.
Speaker 5: I actually knew a couple who ran one of those,
Speaker 5: and yeah, they'd make a year's salary in thirty days.
Speaker 3: I was just about to say, that's like a lot
Speaker 3: of these. It's big for these big strip malls, Like
Speaker 3: they make a year's worth of salary, and like what
Speaker 3: it would cost to have like a normal store in there.
Speaker 3: That rent. They pay that rent for three months, so
Speaker 3: it's like there. People love it. Like the strip mall
Speaker 3: owners they love having those in there because then they
Speaker 3: have that security because then they don't have to worry
Speaker 3: for nine more months, like when are we going to
Speaker 3: get the next big store?
Speaker 2: In costume culture has become a big thing with a
Speaker 2: lot of people looking to which which I do. Like,
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're introverted and you want to be
Speaker 2: a slutty nun or refrigerator, nobody's going to judge you,
Speaker 2: and it's a way to sort of put this mask
Speaker 2: on for the world. You know. I always say this,
Speaker 2: like try and do that. The other three hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty four days of the year. Like wear a color
Speaker 2: that you would normally wear, where an access you wouldn't wear.
Speaker 2: It's going to help you your dating confidence. But I
Speaker 2: am a fan of the philosophy of Halloween. I just
Speaker 2: I don't need it, so all right. Next one, this
Speaker 2: is from MK via our Instagram. I love fall fashion.
Speaker 2: It's the cutest. I can do so much with sweaters
Speaker 2: and scarves and boots and all kinds of accessories. This
Speaker 2: isn't about me, well a little about me, because I
Speaker 2: look fantastic during the season. My issue is the guys.
Speaker 2: Is a hoodie the only option? What happened to guys
Speaker 2: wearing sweaters or blazers or something that makes them match?
Speaker 2: My sharp This is the most fun fashion. I feel
Speaker 2: like every time the guys I am with just look
Speaker 2: like duds and it brings down my mood.
Speaker 4: Step it up fellas well.
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick is our.
Speaker 2: War Uckerberg or whatever. Like, Yeah, hoodies, they're comfortable, they're functional.
Speaker 2: I get she's right though, like.
Speaker 3: Old dogs can learn new fashion lines.
Speaker 2: I think so. Like when I was younger, like I
Speaker 2: did throw on like more corduroy blazer or sweater stuff.
Speaker 4: I don't think I do that at all.
Speaker 5: I have more a closet full of sweaters I haven't
Speaker 5: touched in you.
Speaker 2: I haven't either. It's really full time sweatshirts and hoodies
Speaker 2: like that is it.
Speaker 5: But I have more hoodies now that you know. It's
Speaker 5: just different thicknesses for different seasons. I've got so many
Speaker 5: hoodies in my closet now, it's unreal.
Speaker 2: I agree. But fall fashion, you're a girl, it's fun, right.
Speaker 2: You don't really have it here too much in Scottsdale,
Speaker 2: Arizona because it's still pretty warm.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, I moved here because I like the
Speaker 3: warm weather. Like when the winter time for me as
Speaker 3: a girl, I swear I look like the Michelin Man
Speaker 3: because you're just like layers and layers of tights under
Speaker 3: your pants and jackets and sweating just to like not
Speaker 3: freeze to that's winter though.
Speaker 2: But is there a fault where you're from Idaho? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: there's fall, there's leaves changing.
Speaker 3: Where I'm from, it's boots, jeans, jacket and a hoodie,
Speaker 3: so I definitely get that. I feel like this also
Speaker 3: falls into like the first question we were talking about.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like how important something is. I'm like,
Speaker 3: you should really know this bill or your partner like beforehand,
Speaker 3: or like you're going to pick someone, like let's say
Speaker 3: you meet them spring. They're going a man that has
Speaker 3: a good spring wardrobe. If he dresses well in the spring,
Speaker 3: you guys go out and he has some nice day
Speaker 3: club clothes. In the summer, Oh, you're usually going.
Speaker 2: To have a good So it's like you think you
Speaker 2: can take their fashion temperature all year, und it is
Speaker 2: what it is. They're not suddenly falling off the fashion.
Speaker 3: I don't think they're getting dumpy, Like you're either a
Speaker 3: metrosexual or you're not. Like, so it's like you're going
Speaker 3: to pick them in like if that is important to you,
Speaker 3: pick a man that that you know is already implicating that.
Speaker 7: Sugar Jay, Well, I was thinking, unless you're a college
Speaker 7: girl dating a college guy, you know, if you're dating
Speaker 7: somebody older, there's really no excuse to not dress well. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I mean it doesn't really cost very much. You know,
Speaker 7: you get like a couple of Hugo Boss shirts for
Speaker 7: like a couple one hundred dollars or I mean it
Speaker 7: just kind of raises your your stature, how people see
Speaker 7: you from a first initial look.
Speaker 6: It's like three points.
Speaker 7: So I don't really see a reason why people can't
Speaker 7: just like, you know, up up the game in the
Speaker 7: very easy way. I mean, I can't make myself taller.
Speaker 2: Right, So that's true.
Speaker 6: Dress like an easy one.
Speaker 2: That's a good point. I was gonna be like, MP, MK,
Speaker 2: you're the picture, he's the frame. But I see your point, Like,
Speaker 2: if it matters to her and you and you say
Speaker 2: it once, that's the issue.
Speaker 4: MK.
Speaker 2: If you're with this guy, don't say, oh my god,
Speaker 2: you're gonna wear the hoodie again, Say I bet you
Speaker 2: would look really sharp in the Casumere sweater. If you
Speaker 2: say that sort of positively reinforced there's a path here
Speaker 2: that said this. This is kind of a.
Speaker 3: One man mini clothes. Or you're going shopping and you
Speaker 3: have a boyfriend and you're like, oh, I was out here,
Speaker 3: I bought you know, I brought this for you. It's
Speaker 3: like I picked this up. I know it's your side,
Speaker 3: Like you just better starts subliminally integrating their their wardrobe
Speaker 3: and then you realize we're wearing everything you bought for them.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, when the girls like you would look so
Speaker 2: good in this, I bought these for you. It's it's
Speaker 2: better than Christmas, it's better than Birthday. It's oh yeah.
Speaker 5: Numerous times my sugar baby is like, hey, I got
Speaker 5: you this from mis warehouse, so it's gonna look perfect
Speaker 5: with the dress I'm wearing tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she paid for it with your money, so.
Speaker 5: Exactly, well, she does have my car.
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go, so a little bit less of
Speaker 2: a gesture.
Speaker 4: All right, we are taking on the Fall into Love
Speaker 4: mail bags. I'm here with Megan Jay Marcus.
Speaker 2: We got to take a quick break because we got
Speaker 2: to pay for Cashumer sweaters around here.
Speaker 4: We'll be back right after this, and we are back
Speaker 4: all right. The next one is from Ben from Old Sabrook, Connecticut.
Speaker 4: Old Sabrook is very nice.
Speaker 2: I am forty five and divorced, but my ex wife
Speaker 2: and I had kids in our early twenties, so they
Speaker 2: are all college and beyond.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: I'm currently seeing a great girl. She's a few years
Speaker 2: older than me, but her kids are significantly younger. They
Speaker 2: are eight, ten, and thirteen. That's not the issue. I've
Speaker 2: met the kids a couple of times and I love
Speaker 2: watching her as a mom. The issue is their schedule.
Speaker 2: One is in dance, one is in volleyball. One thinks
Speaker 2: he's gonna be pro soccer player, even though I have
Speaker 2: seen him play and he actually kind of sucks. Anyway,
Speaker 2: they are back to school now, and every single weekend
Speaker 2: hour is devoted to her running them to games and
Speaker 2: rehearsals and practices and worst of all, tournaments. She has shared.
Speaker 2: She has shared custody with her ex, but there are
Speaker 2: only two of them and three kids, so they still
Speaker 2: have to share duties on the weekend. I'm never going
Speaker 2: to get to see her except for maybe an evening
Speaker 2: here and there, but she is always exhausted from driving
Speaker 2: around or three hours away to tournament. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: be understanding, but I am a parent and it never
Speaker 2: used to be like this. I am so pro been
Speaker 2: on this when I was a kid, When you were kid,
Speaker 2: we didn't have to go weekend long like volleyball tournaments
Speaker 2: in Vegas.
Speaker 4: We played the schools in our county.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when did this change? And why did this change?
Speaker 2: Other than parents want to hook up on the road.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good question. I we just played local towns, yeah,
Speaker 5: communities around us. So in baseball, and what is we
Speaker 5: weren't traveling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I understand that.
Speaker 2: You know, during COVID here in Scottsdale, all the California
Speaker 2: school you know, things were shut down. They were all
Speaker 2: out here for tournaments. I've seen this where you have
Speaker 2: to the parents are all secretly hoping their kids lose
Speaker 2: the game on Saturday so they don't have to stay
Speaker 2: till Sunday. And you are paying for hotels and whites
Speaker 2: is so prohibibly expensive.
Speaker 4: I don't know who's in favor of this.
Speaker 2: You got one hundred high schools within twenty miles of
Speaker 2: you play them. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I run Airbnbs and I constantly get parents in for
Speaker 5: tournament tournaments.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And and the way this affects Ben is he's right.
Speaker 2: It didn't be like, Okay, the kids are, let's go
Speaker 2: do something like it is full time taxi service at
Speaker 2: best now for these parents. And if they're eight, ten
Speaker 2: and thirteen, he's going to have to go through this
Speaker 2: from September to May for a long time.
Speaker 7: So my cousin has that same exact situation. They live
Speaker 7: on Fifth Avenue in New York, so they're obviously loaded
Speaker 7: and don't have to worry about the money part, right,
Speaker 7: and so they would they live in New York and
Speaker 7: then the two kids are super into baseball and they
Speaker 7: have to fly to North Carolina, fly to Georgia for games.
Speaker 6: I'm like, are you pro athletes?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean if you're if your kids it's a good
Speaker 2: chance to going pro or that's your scholarship things.
Speaker 4: I get that, but most of these most of these
Speaker 4: kids don't.
Speaker 2: It's just the norm.
Speaker 4: Now norm.
Speaker 7: It seemed like the norm. I couldn't believe it, Like
Speaker 7: why can't you play like a team that's like a
Speaker 7: cross town.
Speaker 2: And looks like the car line? Now, since when did
Speaker 2: the parents have to go and like pick up and
Speaker 2: drop off? It's nuts, so we can use the car line.
Speaker 3: They're all star games, they're all star teams. Like these
Speaker 3: are people that pay to do these. So this is
Speaker 3: basically the new like college application, Like you thought your
Speaker 3: kid was in cello and piano and track, Like, oh,
Speaker 3: you're on an all star team, You're an elite team.
Speaker 3: These are how like this is the precursors in middle
Speaker 3: school and high school to where they're actually getting footage,
Speaker 3: they're actually getting their names and like they get this
Speaker 3: travel experience, they're more likely to be looked at by
Speaker 3: big teams like this.
Speaker 2: Ninety percent of these kids aren't getting looked at at all.
Speaker 2: And I think you have to.
Speaker 3: Determine that's now becoming the bear requirement is to be
Speaker 3: on these pro I get steam.
Speaker 2: Let's look at this from Ben's perspective. What does he
Speaker 2: do about this? Because it does you know younger, he's
Speaker 2: younger than her, but the kids are all gone. He's
Speaker 2: probably like, yeah, I'm a pair of two. This is great.
Speaker 2: And then he suddenly like, I basically have to do
Speaker 2: this all over again, worse. And I can't even share
Speaker 2: a hotel room with my go because she's got an
Speaker 2: eight year old in the bed with her. He's got
Speaker 2: to find a new sorry woman.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've dated a few single mothers, actually quite a few,
Speaker 5: and it's an issue. Yeah, and I get very frustrated.
Speaker 5: So and it hasn't worked out for me.
Speaker 4: I don't you know.
Speaker 5: I don't mind the kids. I love the kids. I
Speaker 5: actually fall in love with the kids a lot of times.
Speaker 5: But there's just no quality time with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I always I'm very single mom sympathetic
Speaker 2: A lot of this time. She has to paint a
Speaker 2: roadmap to her availability to make him feel like this
Speaker 2: is this one seems tough, this one seems checkmate. Like
Speaker 2: there's three kids, and you know she's already sharing it.
Speaker 2: You know, he's not to the point now where he's like,
Speaker 2: I can take one of the kids. But he doesn't
Speaker 2: want to do that either. He wants to spend time
Speaker 2: with her and if the weekends are shot, I mean's
Speaker 2: a lot of week dating.
Speaker 4: But this is a long way to go. The youngest
Speaker 4: is eight.
Speaker 3: I think it's unanimous. This is not going to work out.
Speaker 3: It's never recommended. I've seen again, I have many forty
Speaker 3: five real it's like a lot of forty five men.
Speaker 3: They have like a kid that's like maybe a sophomore
Speaker 3: or junior senior. They're like one or two more years.
Speaker 3: We're almost done, like all the kids are out. Unless
Speaker 3: you truly like you have to make that decision you
Speaker 3: want to be a parent again, you like, really that's
Speaker 3: what you love doing, and you loved going to the
Speaker 3: hockey games and doing all the false stuff in the sports. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're gonna it's yeah, it's not gonna work out.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: A lot of couples stay together till the kids eighteen,
Speaker 2: just so they can share the carpool duties.
Speaker 3: And it sounds like this woman needs to stay and
Speaker 3: like seems like she has some other responsibility to shoot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel bad for them, but anyway, all right.
Speaker 2: Next one, This is from Savannah via the Facebook page.
Speaker 4: Thanksgiving is the biggest fall thing.
Speaker 2: Right, for the sake of argument, let's put it ahead
Speaker 2: of raking leaves in Columbus Day weekend. Anyway, my boyfriend
Speaker 2: every year we've been dating for three years, has tried
Speaker 2: to get me to make the full dinner for our
Speaker 2: friends and his family, like the turkey, the stuffings, the sides,
Speaker 2: all of it. He says, at some point in life
Speaker 2: where if we are together and have a family, it's
Speaker 2: something I will have to do, so let's figure it out.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: That's not exactly the most romantic of proposals, but I
Speaker 2: do love him.
Speaker 4: What the fuck?
Speaker 2: Why can't we just go out and save everybody this
Speaker 2: exercise in culinary experimentation. He's definitely wrong on this, right.
Speaker 2: I've asked my friends and they all say I have
Speaker 2: had to do it once myself.
Speaker 4: Is this a thing? Have you ever made a Thanksgiving dinner? Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm a cooker, so I like, I love cooking
Speaker 3: all the meals. I've even done like an entire Thanksgiving
Speaker 3: dinner just on a smoker before. So I like doing that.
Speaker 3: I understand someone not wanting to do that, right, Like
Speaker 3: that's fair. And there's also takeout, like do you know
Speaker 3: how many restaurants in grocery stores like do full like
Speaker 3: they literally cook you pay for these full meals per person.
Speaker 2: It's not about that. It's people wanting to know that
Speaker 2: she's capable. And me and you last year, I think
Speaker 2: not together, but we each went to like a Capital
Speaker 2: Grill for Thanksgiving. Right, it was delightful. Yes, shout out
Speaker 2: to Capitol Grill. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there are restaurants. A
Speaker 2: lot more people are doing that. But this is almost
Speaker 2: like a rite of passage that a woman has to
Speaker 2: go through and do once. He should not ask her
Speaker 2: to marry you, boyfriend, and then maybe kind of put
Speaker 2: this in there, but don't be like, at some point
Speaker 2: we might be together, we need this test. He's wrong.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if a woman doesn't cook, there's no way she
Speaker 7: can pull it together out of nowhere.
Speaker 4: Right, maybe or she can cook, but Thanksgiving dinner is
Speaker 4: a thing.
Speaker 2: That's a high pressure situation, and I don't believe anybody
Speaker 2: like if we liked turkey as a society, they would
Speaker 2: serve it in restaurants. Normally, we don't like turkey, we
Speaker 2: like the other shit that goes along with it, So
Speaker 2: just make the other shit right.
Speaker 5: I like the dark needed turkey.
Speaker 2: If you go to a restaurant, you're not like, do
Speaker 2: you have any dark meat turkey on the man?
Speaker 4: Any specials? There's no specials of turkey.
Speaker 2: Maybe at Denny's they have it all year round, but
Speaker 2: generally speaking, we don't like turkey. We like turkey sandwiches.
Speaker 2: It's about all the other stuff. This is an unfair thing,
Speaker 2: is She's just like, I don't need to jump through
Speaker 2: hoops to show you that I'm capable of doing this,
Speaker 2: and I'm never gonna do this if we're married.
Speaker 4: Screw it right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I enjoy going out, Like you said, somebody else
Speaker 5: can cook and clean and you used to get enjoy
Speaker 5: the dinner in the atmosphere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if they're nice about family, then hang out
Speaker 2: after dinner or like you said, cater it or go
Speaker 2: to a grocery store that just heat stuff up. But
Speaker 2: if she's sticking there with her fist up the ass
Speaker 2: of a turkey just to prove that she's capable for
Speaker 2: your friends and family. That's not wrong, but it doesn't
Speaker 2: sound like her friends are all saying apparently like yeah,
Speaker 2: I've had to do it too, Like that seems all.
Speaker 3: I don't fall for ultimatums. If there's an ultimatum, I'm out.
Speaker 3: Maybe that makes me petty, but it's like, don't quote
Speaker 3: position away that. But usually there's learning, like if you're
Speaker 3: getting to know when you're dating this person.
Speaker 4: They said three years, three years, this is she said,
Speaker 4: this is three years of this.
Speaker 3: Maybe his mom is like a really intense Italian and
Speaker 3: like their thanksgivings are like maybe maybe it's not as
Speaker 3: like a normal cranberries and stuffing kind of thing, and
Speaker 3: like she's intimidated by it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's like, I'm going to make you do this,
Speaker 2: and she doesn't want, she's stressed out by and it's exhausting.
Speaker 2: Don't make her do this. We'll make her wear the
Speaker 2: slutty Halloween costume.
Speaker 4: Don't make her make the turkey.
Speaker 5: There you go.
Speaker 7: Well, I do kind of think that if if you're
Speaker 7: a guy dating and you have a lot of options,
Speaker 7: a woman that can cook and can bring something like
Speaker 7: that of value. It does make that woman look a
Speaker 7: lot more attractive.
Speaker 2: I'm right, But that would be a woman other than
Speaker 2: her who's like, I'm excited to show off my cooking skills.
Speaker 7: Exactly, somebody that can cook, somebody that is already excited
Speaker 7: to cook, not somebody that forced the cook. I mean,
Speaker 7: if somebody can't do it, I don't want to do it.
Speaker 7: You're not going to get a good turnout I got.
Speaker 2: I got asked by a girlfriend once I was at
Speaker 2: her family's house and she was like, oh, Brian, can
Speaker 2: help carve the turkey? And I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I've never done this. I turned it shredded wheat, like
Speaker 2: I had no idea how to carve a turkey. It
Speaker 2: looked like chicken salad by the time I was found it.
Speaker 2: It's a bad idea. People are like, let me just
Speaker 2: help you with that.
Speaker 4: It was awful.
Speaker 3: Seems like she needs to ask a deeper question on
Speaker 3: like why is this so important? A lot of times
Speaker 3: when it comes to like Thanksgiving, Christmas, it's more about
Speaker 3: the family and the football. It's like it's the camaraderie,
Speaker 3: it's the thing. So it's like maybe she is just
Speaker 3: not a cook. Maybe she just burns toast, But like,
Speaker 3: can she host? Is she empathetic of your family? She gathered?
Speaker 3: Can you put your work together? Does she enjoy the
Speaker 3: you know, having fifteen people in her house like with
Speaker 3: family and get nice cultory? Like maybe the food is
Speaker 3: just the one thing. But it's like, does she hate
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving and the thought of hosting to worry being a
Speaker 3: part of the family or does she just hate cooking?
Speaker 4: Two words, Savannah slutty pilgrim, you go with that and
Speaker 4: never very like you anyway.
Speaker 5: Ooh, all right, I like the visual.
Speaker 4: I know, all right, next one.
Speaker 2: Since this mail bag is about a particular season, I
Speaker 2: think weather is a part of a season, and for
Speaker 2: that matter, temperature. Why is every girl I date chronically cold?
Speaker 2: There's nothing worse than coming in with an extra layer
Speaker 2: of clothing on during October or November and have the
Speaker 2: heat beyond eighty five because she has a circulation issue
Speaker 2: or weighs one hundred pounds. It's abnormal. I constantly tell
Speaker 2: these women that it's a lot easier to add a
Speaker 2: layer to keep warm than take awful layer to cool off.
Speaker 2: You want me to just walk around naked, that's fine,
Speaker 2: But I'm still gonna be hot, and not the kind
Speaker 2: you want.
Speaker 4: What is the compromise on this?
Speaker 2: People wait all year round to enjoy the outdoors when
Speaker 2: the weather gets in the sixties. Can't we all enjoy
Speaker 2: the indoors at the same set temperature. That's from Mark
Speaker 2: at the North Pole. He's right, Agel love being outside
Speaker 2: in sixty eight degrees. Why can't it be sixty eight
Speaker 2: degrees inside? And you can just leave a sweater on,
Speaker 2: borrow my hoodie.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: Megan's like, no, turn it to seventy eight. What does
Speaker 2: your boyfriend prefer the temperature?
Speaker 3: Ap He is a poor, poor he's very hairy man warm.
Speaker 3: He's just hot all the time. And I sympathize. So
Speaker 3: the house is set to like seventy sixty nine seventy
Speaker 3: I can't even feel my fingers with toast just sitting
Speaker 3: in here. I'm cold all the time. I'm miserable. I
Speaker 3: have gotten used to the sweaters and wearing the leggings,
Speaker 3: and I like have fuzzy socks when I have to
Speaker 3: just be in my house. So it's just the way
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 2: Airplane movie theater, You're you're bundling movie theater.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh, bring a sweater literally every single time. But
Speaker 3: I mean there are I tell them that there are
Speaker 3: downsides to not keeping One, I'm usually a little bit crankier,
Speaker 3: but two, it's like if he keeps the room a
Speaker 3: little bit warmer, closed little yeah, it gets He's like,
Speaker 3: why can't like he wants to lay and tries to
Speaker 3: feel up and do all the things, And I'm like,
Speaker 3: got a T shirt and a sweater and socks, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, warmer in here. I would probably be
Speaker 3: wearing less clothes to bed, but I'm literally shivering for
Speaker 3: survival a lot with the fan and the air conditioner
Speaker 3: blowing on me in the cold sheets.
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of women think it's sexist that
Speaker 2: a lot of offices are colder, but colder makes people
Speaker 2: more alert.
Speaker 4: It's actually a better work environment.
Speaker 2: So theaters comedy clubs are a little colder because they
Speaker 2: want people to be alert.
Speaker 4: Thoughts, are you a hot temperature cold temperature? You don't
Speaker 4: give a shit?
Speaker 7: Well, I've definitely noticed that women do run a lot
Speaker 7: colder by default, because like I've known so many women
Speaker 7: that love Sauna's hot tubs. I'll go in to support,
Speaker 7: but I'm like, literally roasting like a turkey. So and
Speaker 7: I don't really I mean, here it's hot too, but
Speaker 7: it's it's uh, it does seem like women's temperature, like
Speaker 7: the homeostasis is like a little bit a little bit
Speaker 7: lower than men's.
Speaker 5: It's a constant problem. It's almost like you're dating somebody
Speaker 5: with a different political view. You're just gonna have to
Speaker 5: agree to disagree because there is no solution. I battle
Speaker 5: this every single day with my girlfriend. She loves to
Speaker 5: turn on the fan and then get under covers and
Speaker 5: put her cold damn feet right on my back or something,
Speaker 5: and it just drives me crazy.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm like, do you want me to cuddle you,
Speaker 2: then let's make it colder, like yeah, that's better than
Speaker 2: we're hot and whatever. Like I'm the same thing. I
Speaker 2: I want it like fifty five and then I'll put
Speaker 2: on like more clothing. Then there's a point where and
Speaker 2: it's just you know, we're here in Scottsdale where it
Speaker 2: can be you know, one hundred and twenty it's brutal,
Speaker 2: but in like, let's just you know, sixty eight should
Speaker 2: be fine.
Speaker 3: I think it's a compromise. That's what we have. Like
Speaker 3: in the morning, Like he gets up before me and
Speaker 3: goes to the gym, So when he wakes up, he'll
Speaker 3: turn the AC up to like seventy three seventy four,
Speaker 3: so when I wake up and do stuff, it's like warmer.
Speaker 3: And then he works from home, so he turns it
Speaker 3: back down during the day, and then we have a
Speaker 3: brief few hours in the afternoon when I come home.
Speaker 3: So when I walk in the door, the house is
Speaker 3: nice and warm, but then I'm also courteous before before
Speaker 3: we go to bed, if I know like we're starting
Speaker 3: to wind down, I'll crank it down to seventy so
Speaker 3: I'll put on my sweater so I know he can
Speaker 3: sleep like it's it's.
Speaker 2: Just it's healthier to sleep in the call.
Speaker 4: It's healthier. It's good.
Speaker 2: John Stamos slips like fifty eight degrees. Look at how
Speaker 2: good he looks. It's a better sleep. The sweets.
Speaker 5: That's scientifically proven.
Speaker 2: Yes, that you're supposed to your body if you'll have
Speaker 2: a better sleep. Yeah, And your body's able to warm
Speaker 2: you down to quite a few times. If you sleep
Speaker 2: like sixty two sixty four, you're gonna have a better
Speaker 2: sleep and you're gonna be healthier.
Speaker 4: Ladies.
Speaker 2: Interesting, you know you want me be cold and then
Speaker 2: let me cuddle you and a lot of women, I
Speaker 2: don't want to be cuddled.
Speaker 4: Get away from me. I want my sleep thing.
Speaker 2: So all right, in the interest of time, here, this
Speaker 2: is the first time you've been on this podcast where
Speaker 2: you can still play. This is your guys first time
Speaker 2: on the podcast. Here the Great Love Debate. We play
Speaker 2: something called worst date or first date, which means you
Speaker 2: actually you have to give us either the worst date
Speaker 2: you've ever been on or the greatest first date you've been.
Speaker 4: On, your choice. Maggot first, think back to your swinging
Speaker 4: single days.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. Uh, greatest first date or worst date?
Speaker 4: Your choice?
Speaker 3: I think a really great first date.
Speaker 4: Good for you. That's very hopeful. Share please.
Speaker 3: Uh greatest first date was I was a lot more
Speaker 3: free spirited.
Speaker 2: And sluddy pilgrim.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was much more like luster in the wind and
Speaker 3: was not worried about caution. And I met someone and
Speaker 3: I literally met them for a drink.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: They invited Like I met like on a dating site
Speaker 3: or something forever ago, and they asked me to go
Speaker 3: on a drink. We met on a drink and he's like,
Speaker 3: I'm going on a trip tomorrow. Would you like to come?
Speaker 3: And I was like, sure, first thing I did, very
Speaker 3: first thing in the morning. He like, that night, send
Speaker 3: me a ticket. We went to California. We stayed in
Speaker 3: Malibu for like five days.
Speaker 6: I'm for you, you felt comfortable with him, like just
Speaker 6: the first day.
Speaker 2: Listen to you, sugar dad. That's like half your dating stories.
Speaker 3: Just like when I was like tomorrow, like you'll be ready,
Speaker 3: like only I was like, I am either going by myself
Speaker 3: or he was like, yeah, sure, I'm down, And I
Speaker 3: was like, I think that audacity and like confidence. I
Speaker 3: think that's what falls with.
Speaker 2: A lot of like what happened after? Oh we were
Speaker 2: so you dated?
Speaker 3: We dated for We dated Everyone say in a relationship,
Speaker 3: but we definitely dated for a while and then we
Speaker 3: ended up. I think just in our personal lives just
Speaker 3: beaking friends. Like we were super close. We were best
Speaker 3: friends from about like two and a half three years.
Speaker 3: So then he got into a serr spaceship that we
Speaker 3: good for you, but we yeat.
Speaker 2: The problem with those is first dates and I'm just
Speaker 2: saying they're not is it's a little tough to sustain
Speaker 2: that excitement. It's like, oh, we're just gonna go get
Speaker 2: some ice cream. Now, last week we went to Malibu,
Speaker 2: like you almost have, Like that's a pretty high bar
Speaker 2: to top, but good for you. That is a good
Speaker 2: first date.
Speaker 3: Second best day was going to I went as an
Speaker 3: anime character. I was at one of the conventions and
Speaker 3: I didn't have time to go back and change out
Speaker 3: of my little sexy whatever anime. I'm a con costume
Speaker 3: and I literally came out on a date and a wig.
Speaker 2: So wow, cruel Deville, there you go. Good for you,
Speaker 2: all right, sugar Jay. First date, worst date or first date.
Speaker 2: So this might not be a first first date, but
Speaker 2: pretty close. I took a girl to BAMF in Canada
Speaker 2: and we had a great day hiking, we spent I
Speaker 2: felt really close to her and I felt like we
Speaker 2: really bonded. And one of the last things we did
Speaker 2: was went to a bar.
Speaker 7: Some guy just random go at the bar, walks up
Speaker 7: to probably her, not me, and says, you want to
Speaker 7: come to a party, And she wanted to go to
Speaker 7: the party.
Speaker 6: And I wanted to go to bed and you know,
Speaker 6: bed and other stuff, you know what.
Speaker 7: So therefore I kind of just wanted to just not
Speaker 7: go to this party, you know, and then it became
Speaker 7: this big fight, and we went back to the hotel,
Speaker 7: and after I went to sleep, she went out again.
Speaker 7: And the only reason I found out was the next
Speaker 7: day she left a sweater at either the guy's house
Speaker 7: or the party or whatever. The guy brought it back,
Speaker 7: left his number, and the concierge says like, oh, a
Speaker 7: young man brought this, and and he left his number
Speaker 7: for you in front of me.
Speaker 2: To that, first of all, you must be a sound sleeper.
Speaker 7: Well, we actually know. What happened was that we had
Speaker 7: really bad sleep the first night together. We were both
Speaker 7: tossing and turning. So I was like, you know what,
Speaker 7: I'm just going to get a separate room, so we're
Speaker 7: gonna both get a good night's sleep. So I went
Speaker 7: to my room and so therefore I didn't know, you know,
Speaker 7: it was so she never came into your room, No, no,
Speaker 7: I Yeah. So yeah, we just bamped.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I like banff until then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well the two rooms that'll cost you?
Speaker 6: That did cost me if like four hundred dollars a night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so no two rooms with Megan s male body.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but yeah, but that was that was that really
Speaker 6: stun just because.
Speaker 4: She wasn't that tired from the night before.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly exactly. She had ry I know, you pooped out.
Speaker 2: I can't really blame her on her side on this one.
Speaker 5: The crazy thing is this just happened. Yeah, this is fresh,
Speaker 5: and here she is, Oh.
Speaker 2: This just happened.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it kind of stings.
Speaker 4: But I mean, was she a sugar yeah, oh yeah yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So she was paid you paid for for no, I mean,
Speaker 7: I I covered her costs and I don't know that
Speaker 7: we didn't have anything worked out specifically for the trip.
Speaker 7: So but there were a lot of like long term
Speaker 7: kind of potential promises.
Speaker 2: So there's no expectations on the trip. There's no negotiation
Speaker 2: like you will sleep in my room for an extra
Speaker 2: five hundred Is that a thing?
Speaker 5: Or that he had already given her like a monthly allow?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7: She she I felt she was pretty much taken care
Speaker 7: of in a big way, you know. I mean I
Speaker 7: think I think that you know, she just didn't really
Speaker 7: understand how it all worked.
Speaker 4: I guess, so in some sense you needed to find
Speaker 4: print in the brochure.
Speaker 5: So ask him what the age gap? Well, on this one,
Speaker 5: was was the age gap?
Speaker 4: I don't know how old.
Speaker 5: I got to do the math here twenty two versus
Speaker 5: fifty fifty.
Speaker 6: Two, thirty thirty years about thirty?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: What you do?
Speaker 2: You could find somebody just like her who is really
Speaker 2: cute forty y cute.
Speaker 6: Okay, he's really fair enough.
Speaker 7: And I guess the other guy thought so well, I
Speaker 7: got you know, I learned my lesson too, so it's
Speaker 7: maybe it's not a good idea to to date somebody
Speaker 7: is super young, you know.
Speaker 1: But that was that.
Speaker 7: I mean, that was definitely one of the worst, just
Speaker 7: because I felt that I had done everything to bring
Speaker 7: her here, given her a really nice experience, and then
Speaker 7: she felt that she needed to like just.
Speaker 2: She's twenty two. She doesn't need to sleep like you,
Speaker 2: old man. Apparently, Nah, you got to know your demo?
Speaker 2: All right, Marcus, what do you got?
Speaker 5: Let's see, I've told this a couple of times, so
Speaker 5: I'll get you a new one. This one's pretty crazy.
Speaker 5: I met a girl on the dating site Sugar dating site.
Speaker 5: We had sushi. She's like, yeah, I want to go
Speaker 5: back to your place. I'm like, abs so fucking loly.
Speaker 2: So we go and.
Speaker 5: We're we has a few more drinks, and we started
Speaker 5: kind of messing around, and her phone rings and she says,
Speaker 5: oh my god, my driver is out front and he
Speaker 5: needs to go to the restroom. Can he come in
Speaker 5: and use the restroom? Like your driver?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 5: How does he even know where you are? She oh,
Speaker 5: he has my location all times, and don't worry. He's
Speaker 5: my gay best friend. Okay, come on it. So he
Speaker 5: came in used the restauran. We're in the master bedroom
Speaker 5: and he used the restroom in there. And She's get
Speaker 5: pretty inebriated at this point, and so he comes out
Speaker 5: and he's not. He's feeling awkward already. She tries pulling
Speaker 5: him in bed with us. Oh, I'm like, oh, well wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 5: hold on, you know it's it's fine.
Speaker 2: I just don't.
Speaker 5: I don't. I'm not ready for this, right. So anyway,
Speaker 5: they start talking, they get up, they go in the garage.
Speaker 5: They goes, hey, can I smoke a cigarette? I'm like, well,
Speaker 5: just go in the garage. So they're in there for
Speaker 5: like twenty minutes. I'm laying in bed, going all right,
Speaker 5: this is not sexy. I'm not around. I just this
Speaker 5: is not going well. So she comes back in he
Speaker 5: sits out in the living room. She starts trying to
Speaker 5: get into it. I'm not into it. She gets all
Speaker 5: mad and leaves in a huff and a puff, and
Speaker 5: she leaves her Jimmy Chew shoes there. I didn't know
Speaker 5: how much they were worth, but anyway, apparently those were
Speaker 5: quite expensive, and she asked if she could come get
Speaker 5: them back, and I said, yeah, I already walked around him.
Speaker 5: They're not my size, so I gave them back to her.
Speaker 2: Uh, but yeah, that sucks.
Speaker 5: That was a little interesting. So yeah, come on, guys,
Speaker 5: get together crazy anyway, I've got crazy stories, but some
Speaker 5: of them I don't know they'd be appropriate for this show.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, where can people find your inappropriate show?
Speaker 5: Secrets of a Sugar Daddy. Uh, we're on all the
Speaker 5: all the podcast players and uh, you can find us
Speaker 5: a Secrets of a Sugar Daddy dot com. We've got
Speaker 5: a big party coming up you might even want to attend.
Speaker 5: We call it Sugarpalooza. And Brian knows about those and
Speaker 5: they are a lot of fun. He thinks they're swinger
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Speaker 1: Not what they are.
Speaker 2: I don't know what they are.
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Speaker 2: There you go. If somebody wants you use their sugar
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Speaker 5: They could contact me exactly.
Speaker 2: Reach out to Marcus.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll pass on his number. Actually, I've had quite
Speaker 5: a few people because sugar Daddy Jay is. He's generous,
Speaker 5: he's fun to be around. He's just a super nice guy.
Speaker 7: Here you go, and I've met some really great both
Speaker 7: women as well as good friends because.
Speaker 6: Of Marcus, and I really appreciate that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we have a fun little community. It's it's actually
Speaker 5: unlike anything you would think it would be. It's it's
Speaker 5: super close and friendly and honest, and everybody really enjoys
Speaker 5: each other.
Speaker 2: So I cash on the nightstand.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 7: Also the fact that, like, because this particular segment of
Speaker 7: dating is so tabooed, you know, many of us don't
Speaker 7: feel comfortable telling even our family about it. So but
Speaker 7: when you find other people that are also on the
Speaker 7: same path, with the same struggles and the same kind
Speaker 7: of like you know, issues, and then you have this
Speaker 7: community you really bondt to them because they're there are
Speaker 7: people that you can actually trust, that you can actually
Speaker 7: be feel that you can express yourself without feeling judged
Speaker 7: about it.
Speaker 6: And and I think that's how like really like halloweens,
Speaker 6: you know it is.
Speaker 2: No, there are people looking for alternative paths to happiness
Speaker 2: relationships all the time. I'm a little bit probably too
Speaker 2: old fashioned for you guys, but hey, you asked me
Speaker 2: one times, like you have a.
Speaker 4: Girlfriend and I go, yeah, and you're like, she costs
Speaker 4: a lot of money. I go sometimes and you're like,
Speaker 4: you're a sugar daddy.
Speaker 3: Isn't that the saying now? Or you see it all
Speaker 3: over the internet. It's like all women are expensive. Just
Speaker 3: pick one in your tax bracket.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I think you're right, Megan.
Speaker 4: You got a podcast starting up soon, I hear.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh really, yes, we'll be starting the new podcast
Speaker 3: Hot or Not here at the pod Populace Hot or Not,
Speaker 3: Hot or Not. Yes, you'll be on Marcus.
Speaker 5: Really yes, Well you have to come on my show
Speaker 5: and tell us all about it for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll be talking about all the hot topics and
Speaker 3: anything interesting going on and things not so hot or
Speaker 3: like that. We need to bring some more awareness to
Speaker 3: so good.
Speaker 4: I like that, all right.
Speaker 2: Uh, you guys were great as far as us and
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