Speaker 1: It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on
Speaker 1: Sports Talk seven nine day, now here's Nick Coffee.
Speaker 2: So right before we ended our first hour, I mentioned
Speaker 2: I've got that kick. I can feel the kick from
Speaker 2: a cup of coffee. I don't drink much coffee. In fact,
Speaker 2: I've only had I think, now, this is my third
Speaker 2: cup of coffee in my life. I mean, I've sampled coffee,
Speaker 2: I've had a drink, but it's never been my thing.
Speaker 2: But today I've just been dragging ass. And because the
Speaker 2: only cup of coffee I've ever had was one prepared
Speaker 2: by the company man himself, mister John Alden, who is
Speaker 2: a big time coffee drinker, I mean like I feel.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've felt bad asking him, but I did say, hey,
Speaker 2: would you mind making me a cup of coffee? And like,
Speaker 2: as soon as those words left my mouth, I felt like, Man,
Speaker 2: I sound like such a pompous ass thinking that this
Speaker 2: guy who produces the show, he's also got to run
Speaker 2: errands for me, make a sandwich and give me coffee
Speaker 2: or something. And I know John knows that I'm not
Speaker 2: asking him because of that. It's because literally I've never
Speaker 2: made a cup of coffee, and I needed the jolt
Speaker 2: that you get from coffee, which I've got right now.
Speaker 2: But it looked bad whenever our boss was in here,
Speaker 2: along with a couple of other folks that you know,
Speaker 2: I guess two assistant program director, a program director and
Speaker 2: a sales executive were in the studio and John brings
Speaker 2: me coffee before the show, and I just.
Speaker 3: The object so funny, the objects.
Speaker 2: Of that made it look as if I've got him
Speaker 2: is like my errand boy, and that is so far
Speaker 2: from the truth. It just it looked bad. And you know,
Speaker 2: thank you John for actually, you know, making coffee. It's
Speaker 2: not gonna next time I need coffee, I'll walk with
Speaker 2: you to the machine and you'll show me the magic
Speaker 2: that you that you perform to give me what you've
Speaker 2: given me, which I would imagine it's not that difficult
Speaker 2: to do, right.
Speaker 4: No, But there are times where even whenever I've done it,
Speaker 4: the machine just likes to do its own thing, and
Speaker 4: sometimes the grounds will go all over the place and.
Speaker 5: It's a big mess.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't want that.
Speaker 4: That happened actually a few days ago. I thought it
Speaker 4: might have happened today. So you just never know, like
Speaker 4: it just doesn't happen very often, but it's happened more
Speaker 4: often in the last couple of weeks, and it's ever had.
Speaker 3: So you tell me what it is. I'm drinking. This
Speaker 3: is just straight black coffee into the.
Speaker 4: Black coffee, and it's a medium roast, so it's kind
Speaker 4: of right in the middle, very vanilla.
Speaker 3: So when you say roast, is that is the.
Speaker 2: Just like the amount of caffeine that's in. That's okay,
Speaker 2: That's what I was going to ask. So like medium
Speaker 2: is like medium caffeine level.
Speaker 4: Sort of, it's kind of it's kind of confusing. So
Speaker 4: some people think, and I think I agree with this,
Speaker 4: that a light roast gives you more of a jolt
Speaker 4: than a dark roast, okay, And I think it's to
Speaker 4: do with how long they do something with the beans.
Speaker 4: I don't know exactly how it works, but I always
Speaker 4: do a dark roast now for every cup of coffee
Speaker 4: because I drink it so frequently, because it's a lower
Speaker 4: caffeine kick whenever you do the dark roast, and just
Speaker 4: better to do if you drink it, you know, all
Speaker 4: the time, like I do.
Speaker 2: So I don't I don't like the taste, but I don't.
Speaker 2: It doesn't keep me, you know, it's it's not bad
Speaker 2: to where I'm like, Nope, can't do it. But you know,
Speaker 2: some people drink it for the taste. Are you Are
Speaker 2: you one of those people? Or is it more have
Speaker 2: you acquired?
Speaker 4: Like it's definitely acquired because whenever I first started drinking coffee,
Speaker 4: the main reason I liked it was because I wanted
Speaker 4: a warm drink. And I still like that aspect of it.
Speaker 4: But the more that I drank it, the more I
Speaker 4: like the taste of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's I mean.
Speaker 2: And know everybody wants to be a bad ass beer drinker.
Speaker 2: I have no problem in admitting it, and I think
Speaker 2: most people, if they're honest, would admit the same thing.
Speaker 2: The first time you try to beer, rather it be
Speaker 2: a hipster ipa or the lightest beer you can get,
Speaker 2: like a bud light, you didn't like it like beer,
Speaker 2: like I love cold beer. Gonna have many this weekend,
Speaker 2: like I love. I mean, it's you know, I don't
Speaker 2: want to sound like a like it's a huge part
Speaker 2: of my life, but like you know, it's I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go grab it. I like watching sports drinking beer when
Speaker 2: I go out to dinner, I get a beer with
Speaker 2: my meal, and I've acquired the taste for it. But like,
Speaker 2: I get why anybody who doesn't drink it regularly would
Speaker 2: drink it and say, yeah, this isn't you know, this
Speaker 2: isn't real, Like this isn't tasty, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But yet it's just become normal for me to just
Speaker 2: you know, I'm watching a game, let me go grab
Speaker 2: a cold beer, and I do to the point now
Speaker 2: where I'm like, man, that's you know, I enjoy it.
Speaker 2: But it was an acquired thing. I think that's probably
Speaker 2: the case for most people with coffee, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think another additional thing that really kind
Speaker 4: of can entice someone to drink a cup of coffee
Speaker 4: as the smell, especially if you've got a good flavored coffee.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So like I bet iced coffee with all that mocha Chino,
Speaker 2: I've never had any. Yeah, and I don't like, to me,
Speaker 2: that's just fufoo and that's expensive and it's not like
Speaker 2: when it comes to like drinking something for taste, I'm
Speaker 2: pretty basic. Like if I really just am craving something
Speaker 2: for a drink, it's usually honestly.
Speaker 3: Like a sprite or like a diet coke.
Speaker 2: Like I know, when I drink water, it's rarely that
Speaker 2: I'm chugging water because I'm thirsty. It's because I realized
Speaker 2: the importance of like hydration or like I just got
Speaker 2: done running or something like that. So, yeah, coffee, I
Speaker 2: can't see it ever being something that's like a huge
Speaker 2: part of you know, my afternoon or morning, you know whatever.
Speaker 4: But you know, didn't you try to make yourself a
Speaker 4: cup of coffee at the old studio. I think you've
Speaker 4: told me this story before, but like you just couldn't
Speaker 4: figure it out, and so you just maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: No, what happened there is I used to fill up this, Uh.
Speaker 2: I used to fill up this this big like thermous
Speaker 2: type of you know, mug thing, if that makes sense,
Speaker 2: like a big water. And uh, I didn't realize, Like
Speaker 2: long story short, the same water you like make coffee in,
Speaker 2: the same thing you make coffee in.
Speaker 3: It is the same thing we.
Speaker 2: Get water from at the old place, Okay, And I
Speaker 2: didn't realize it was turned to hot still from coffee
Speaker 2: and I and because this is like something where it
Speaker 2: stays cold like to the touch of my of what
Speaker 2: I was holding it didn't I didn't know if it
Speaker 2: was hot or cold. But then I took a drink
Speaker 2: of it and it was nearly burned my mouth off.
Speaker 2: So that was my experience when like understanding like how
Speaker 2: the whole coffee thing works. But this cup that you've
Speaker 2: made me is good and it's given me a nice
Speaker 2: little kick and I needed it. I uh, when I
Speaker 2: tell you guys that I'm kind of an adult, kind
Speaker 2: of not, it's it's just not. I mean again, why
Speaker 2: would that make me look good? It makes me look
Speaker 2: like an idiot. But at least I'm transparent with you.
Speaker 2: I gave I didn't give blood today because I donated it.
Speaker 2: I could lie to you and say that I just
Speaker 2: decided to go donate blood to be a good human.
Speaker 2: I had to get blood work done today and it
Speaker 2: was the once every six months I get like four
Speaker 2: or five of those big tubes of blood taken from me.
Speaker 2: That's different than I think the typical lab work that
Speaker 2: I have to get from time to time. And it's
Speaker 2: been a while since it happened, and it was it
Speaker 2: was it was frustrat reading. So I went to my
Speaker 2: dermatologist and they have the ability to like take blood.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just.
Speaker 2: Gonna give you a full story here, because I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna be honest. I went to the for my check
Speaker 2: in today and they have to check my blood at
Speaker 2: a level that is, I guess, a little bit more
Speaker 2: of an extensive look and a check up before they
Speaker 2: can give me medication that I need.
Speaker 3: So I go there.
Speaker 2: It's it's been years since we've been on this whole,
Speaker 2: this whole you know, arrangement, if you want to call
Speaker 2: it that, to where I really don't even need to
Speaker 2: have a big long talk with my doctor, my dermatologist.
Speaker 2: It's more of like, hey, you know, things are still
Speaker 2: going well, medicine's working and you know, good to see you.
Speaker 2: So then he says they're gonna come in and they're
Speaker 2: gonna poke you. And what he means by that is
Speaker 2: they're going to take blood. Well, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know if the people that work at the dermatologists are
Speaker 2: a flambotanist or not, but they've taken my blood before
Speaker 2: and it's worked. Then they've sent me elsewhere to do
Speaker 2: it before, and I never really knew why. So today,
Speaker 2: you know, after I had a no joke thirty second conversation.
Speaker 2: Once I left the waiting room and went back to
Speaker 2: the you know, to the actual room where the derma
Speaker 2: child just came in. We did our Hey, how you doing.
Speaker 2: How was your summer? Things are still good, the medicine's working.
Speaker 2: And then he said, good to see you. You're looking good,
Speaker 2: and you know, we'll have him come in poke and
Speaker 2: you'll be good to go and we'll see you in
Speaker 2: six months. That was the conversation. Took thirty seconds max.
Speaker 2: So then the lady comes in and she walks in
Speaker 2: the door and says, do you have big veins? And
Speaker 2: I didn't never been asked that before. Little intimidated, I
Speaker 2: don't know my veins are big or not. Lady, I
Speaker 2: mean you take a look, so I said, I told
Speaker 2: her straight up, I'm not sure. She looked at me
Speaker 2: kind of concerned, like what do you mean you don't know,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't know, never had a problem before.
Speaker 2: So she ends up trying to get blood from my
Speaker 2: right arm, and she didn't. She struggled, and she was
Speaker 2: like not confident. While she's doing it, she's kind of
Speaker 2: jabbing me, and then she's like, we're gonna try this
Speaker 2: other arm. So you know, she apologizes, then she tries
Speaker 2: another one, but then she kind of backed out, didn't
Speaker 2: say anything, and then I got too like those cotton
Speaker 2: swabs you know what I'm talking about, Yeah, what you're
Speaker 2: talking about, like taped on my on my arm where
Speaker 2: you know you would take blood, like you know, you know,
Speaker 2: right where your arm creases. And I don't watch when
Speaker 2: I get blood because I don't like to see it.
Speaker 2: I don't like to see a needle go in me,
Speaker 2: like I just can't see it. So she struggled so
Speaker 2: badly the first time. I felt like she got enough.
Speaker 2: But turns out she didn't get anything, but I didn't
Speaker 2: know because I wasn't looking. So they jabbed both my arms.
Speaker 2: And then a different woman comes in, hands me a
Speaker 2: piece of paper and says, you could take this to
Speaker 2: any lab corp any You can actually go across the
Speaker 2: street because there's a hospital a cross the street from
Speaker 2: from from their office. And I said, I gotta get
Speaker 2: blood work twice today and she's like, no, she didn't
Speaker 2: get anything. And I said, oh, okay, so I saw
Speaker 2: so I said, so I have to go elsewhere to
Speaker 2: get blood work done. I can't get it done here
Speaker 2: She's like, no, we tried and we couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, well my blood work is going
Speaker 2: to depend upon me getting medication that I need if
Speaker 2: she if they if she couldn't get blood, like is
Speaker 2: there something wrong? Like I don't want to go over
Speaker 2: here to this hospital and them not be able to
Speaker 2: get blood either, and them jab me up too. I
Speaker 2: didn't say that, but I just asked the question directly.
Speaker 2: If she couldn't get blood, do you think they're going
Speaker 2: to have an issue? And she was real defensive, like well,
Speaker 2: we're not flumbotanists. That's their job, so they'll be able
Speaker 2: to do it. And I'm looking at her like what,
Speaker 2: like then, why would you Why would you try? If
Speaker 2: you're telling me you're qualified to do so, why did
Speaker 2: you try to take blood for me and fail miserably
Speaker 2: getting nothing and jab up both my arms. I didn't
Speaker 2: say that, but I had to look on my face
Speaker 2: and I said so, like do I need to come
Speaker 2: back here afterwards? She's like no, we'll get a report
Speaker 2: of it whenever they when they submit it, and I'm
Speaker 2: just kind of looking around like I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: in a Seinfeld episode, like wait, a second, like, if
Speaker 2: you're telling me you couldn't get blood but it wasn't
Speaker 2: your fault because you're not a flambotanist, then why did
Speaker 2: you try? And I overheard my dermatologist, whom I it's
Speaker 2: some drama here. My main physician has told me for
Speaker 2: the last two times i've seen her that I need
Speaker 2: to go to a different dermatologist because I don't know
Speaker 2: if she's got beef with my guy. But she's like, nah,
Speaker 2: he ain't. He ain't looking out for you, bro, Like
Speaker 2: you got to go to my guy. But I've had
Speaker 2: this milk. I've had the same dermatologists since I had
Speaker 2: this issue, and things have been good. But today, I
Speaker 2: mean I got like two like I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: even see it, John, Like I can see that that's yeah,
Speaker 2: and and it's from when they didn't get blood, and
Speaker 2: like that terrify And so I overheard, you know once,
Speaker 2: I was like, I mean, I probably said ten words total,
Speaker 2: but I was like, so I just looked confused, and
Speaker 2: her response was more to be defensive, like, well, we're not.
Speaker 2: Then why why'd you try to stab me? Why you're
Speaker 2: telling me you had somebody try to take blood for
Speaker 2: me that does not know what.
Speaker 3: They're doing, like, why would you do that?
Speaker 2: So you know, I didn't say that, but then I
Speaker 2: could hear the woman who, unfortunately, like I had, I
Speaker 2: had more heat towards the woman who came in and
Speaker 2: handed me the paper and told me to go next
Speaker 2: door than I did the woman who failed to get
Speaker 2: blood out of me. So I could hear her telling
Speaker 2: the dermatologists like that, I guess she failed again.
Speaker 3: I mean she'd say those words and like.
Speaker 2: Nobody would face me, nobody would look nobody would look
Speaker 2: me in the eye on my way out of my
Speaker 2: dermatologists because they realized that, yeah, that was probably a
Speaker 2: pretty crappy thing that happened here. To my guy, he's
Speaker 2: in here to get blood work done. We're not really like,
Speaker 2: we'll try, but we're not really responsible. So if we
Speaker 2: can't get blood, we'll just jab you up a little
Speaker 2: bit then send you next door.
Speaker 3: So I was very frustrated.
Speaker 2: I go over to the fine folks at you have
Speaker 2: l Health and I said, I got this paper, I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if I'm in the right place, and I
Speaker 2: had a hoodie on. I took my hoodie off, and
Speaker 2: of course she said, did you just come from over there,
Speaker 2: and I said, yeah, they they couldn't get blood, and
Speaker 2: she looked at me like what. So then I take
Speaker 2: my bandages off to show her both arms jabbed. No
Speaker 2: blood sample was taken, and she was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: like what happened? And I'm like, I don't know. And
Speaker 2: on one side, it's not as bad. The other side,
Speaker 2: she said, it looked as if she tried like eight
Speaker 2: times to get a vein and couldn't do it, and
Speaker 2: it's the veins right here. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess because I don't look when people take blood.
Speaker 2: I don't want to see that. I just don't like
Speaker 2: to watch that. It, you know, makes me lightheaded, and
Speaker 2: I don't, you know, I just I'm I'm I don't
Speaker 2: want to see it. She's like, well that makes little sense,
Speaker 2: but like I'm not sure what she was trying to do.
Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, me neither, lady. I didn't say lady,
Speaker 2: but I'm just like, yeah, I'm not sure either, and
Speaker 2: she I mean, I hope no. I mean, all I
Speaker 2: did was do what they told me to do. I
Speaker 2: left there because they couldn't take blood. I went across
Speaker 2: the street to a hospital, they took blood, and they
Speaker 2: were alarmed by what I showed up as somebody who
Speaker 2: they're trying to take blood from somebody when they weren't
Speaker 2: able to actually do it effectively. And I don't know
Speaker 2: if somebody's gonna get in trouble or what, but like
Speaker 2: I was super frustrated about the whole experience.
Speaker 3: And then again me not just like you know, my
Speaker 3: brain didn't work very well.
Speaker 2: Like I never thought about it that like taking having
Speaker 2: a lot of blood taken from you for medical reasons
Speaker 2: or whatever, like it can make you really tired. I
Speaker 2: almost fell asleep on the way here today, like not
Speaker 2: I mean, in which now that I say it out loud,
Speaker 2: I probably almost passed out dropping.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you very well could have.
Speaker 4: I don't know if they told you or most whenever
Speaker 4: you actually donate blood, they and I know that's not
Speaker 4: what you were doing. Yeah, they normally have like a
Speaker 4: snack table or something for people afterwards, so they can
Speaker 4: kind of, you know, get that get their blood sugar
Speaker 4: back up, whatever it may be. And if you didn't
Speaker 4: eat nothing and you got rid of a whole bunch
Speaker 4: of blood, I mean I could you definitely could have passed.
Speaker 2: Well, they asked me whenever I showed up to get
Speaker 2: to the hospital, like to the it's it's the it's
Speaker 2: it's the it's you of a hospital that's on the
Speaker 2: off of the Brooks at s off sixty five. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so they just asked, like, do I usually get lightheaded?
Speaker 2: And I said no, and I felt fine, like when
Speaker 2: I honestly, when I left there, I felt okay. It
Speaker 2: took later in the day for me to realize that
Speaker 2: I was really like, for some reason, I was unexplainably exhaustible, exhausted.
Speaker 2: But the explanation is because I gave up a lot
Speaker 2: of blood and I hadn't need a whole lot yet.
Speaker 3: So I've said I.
Speaker 2: Had something to eat for the show, and then John's
Speaker 2: giving me this coffee. So now I've got this nice kick,
Speaker 2: this nice boost of energy.
Speaker 3: But yeah, just to.
Speaker 2: That's I swear my life My life is a Seinfeld episode,
Speaker 2: I swear. And you know, now I have like full
Speaker 2: like reason to actually take my physician up on her request,
Speaker 2: and that is that I go to a different dermatologist,
Speaker 2: because I mean, do.
Speaker 4: You think they knew as you were leaving, like this
Speaker 4: will be the last time we see him?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I have no clue because you know they're going to
Speaker 2: be fine without me. But I did, for the first
Speaker 2: time ever in a healthcare type setting, feel as if
Speaker 2: they knew there was nothing they could say to not
Speaker 2: make me feel the way I felt about that experience.
Speaker 2: And I'll just what, I'll what, I what. I come
Speaker 2: back like again, the woman trying to get blood and
Speaker 2: not being able to do it is one thing, like
Speaker 2: that's unfortunate.
Speaker 3: It could have been me.
Speaker 2: It could have been that I was not hydrated, that
Speaker 2: I had veins that were tough to get. But then
Speaker 2: once I showed her my arms she could oh. She's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're gonna be good. You got you got veins right
Speaker 2: here ready for me, and then she still couldn't do it,
Speaker 2: Like I felt bad for her. But then the woman
Speaker 2: to come in and before I could even be like
Speaker 2: upset that you jabbed me up and you didn't even
Speaker 2: get blood and now you're telling me I gotta go
Speaker 2: elsewhere before I can get my medication, Like before I
Speaker 2: could even like express my frustration with that, she was defensive,
Speaker 2: like what up, limbotanists, It's not it's not our job,
Speaker 2: then why are you doing it like, I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't know what your job as, I don't know what
Speaker 2: your certifications are.
Speaker 3: I was in the waiting room.
Speaker 2: I walked back to the room you took me to
Speaker 2: and you come in and you start shooting jabbing me,
Speaker 2: Like what do you mean? Am I supposed to check
Speaker 2: your credentials before you start trying to take my blood?
Speaker 2: I mean the red flag was when the lady walks in.
Speaker 2: Do you have big veins?
Speaker 3: Lady? I don't know, man, Like, i't know what that
Speaker 3: was going.
Speaker 5: Well, I can only operate on big veins.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I mean, first of all, even
Speaker 2: if I got big veins, small veins, who says that rights?
Speaker 2: But you know who probably says that somebody that's not
Speaker 2: you know, actually supposed to be taking blood because they're
Speaker 2: not a flambotanist. As if like I go to this
Speaker 2: dermatologist because I've checked the rate of you know, the
Speaker 2: successful blood that they draw like.
Speaker 3: It was it was.
Speaker 2: It's quite an experience, but you know, I don't Without
Speaker 2: this cup of coffee, John, I wouldn't be here right now.
Speaker 3: I probably passed out.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't know what to do if you passed out here.
Speaker 3: It would be something, wouldn't it.
Speaker 2: It would be I mean I was gonna say it'd
Speaker 2: be good content, but no, because I would just be
Speaker 2: out and there'd be no content to take from it
Speaker 2: other than people wondering if I'm dead or alive. But anyways,
Speaker 2: I share experiences in my life from time to time
Speaker 2: on this show, and I realized, more often than not,
Speaker 2: they're probably not that interesting, probably not that entertaining. But
Speaker 2: like today was a day to where I just felt like,
Speaker 2: wait a second, Like am I on a hidden camera show? Like,
Speaker 2: what do you mean I got to go elsewhere? And
Speaker 2: you're mad that I'm asking that I have to go elsewhere?
Speaker 2: Whenever you came in, you jabbed me up. What really
Speaker 2: was to tell, though, is I walked out of that
Speaker 2: room to go towards like the checkout where you make
Speaker 2: your next appointment. And then once I realized I didn't
Speaker 2: get any blood taken from me because they just stabbed me,
Speaker 2: and I bled like just because they gave me a wound,
Speaker 2: I took off the bandages and then walked back into
Speaker 2: the room and threw them in the trash. While the
Speaker 2: two ladies and the dermatologists were in another room where
Speaker 2: they could see me, and they're kind of like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, this is awkward, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like, that's just ya.
Speaker 4: I think they I think maybe these people were deep
Speaker 4: down worried that I don't want to say they were
Speaker 4: going to have a lawsuit on their hands. But if
Speaker 4: things went worse than they actually did, maybe that could happen.
Speaker 2: Because if I would have said, if it's not your
Speaker 2: job and you're not a flambotanist, why are you in
Speaker 2: here trying to take my blood?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 2: And what would their response be, Well, we get we
Speaker 2: give it a good old college effort, and if we
Speaker 2: can get it done, it's great. If not, you know,
Speaker 2: we'll stab you up and send you next door like that.
Speaker 2: That's kind of you know, like and I have again
Speaker 2: like I think I have a very gullible appearance to
Speaker 2: where like I wouldn't create like if it was somebody
Speaker 2: like there are people who have no justifiable reason to
Speaker 2: be jerks and to be a holes to people in
Speaker 2: healthcare that try to help them.
Speaker 3: Right, what you're laughing at.
Speaker 4: We got a message that says take your beta veins
Speaker 4: across the street that we got from a colleague of ours.
Speaker 2: That's pretty funny, but like, you know, like I feel
Speaker 2: like if it was somebody like that, they felt like
Speaker 2: might have put up a bigger fight. They might have
Speaker 2: been a little bit more like really sorry. But like
Speaker 2: for me, they're like, here, take this paper. We can't
Speaker 2: get your blood, you peasant.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Like, and when I was leaving U of L Health
Speaker 2: and the people they were like, man, this guy got her.
Speaker 3: Like I'm just happy that I get my.
Speaker 2: Medicine, that it's going to keep me from looking deformed,
Speaker 2: and that's the ultimate goal for me. But like overall,
Speaker 2: now that we're now that I'm you know, on the
Speaker 2: on the therapist couch again, just kind of sharing my experience,
Speaker 2: like that kind of sucked.
Speaker 5: I can't wait for what the five o'clock hour.
Speaker 2: And again John is in the other room, but he
Speaker 2: can see on a monitor, like you see my arm.
Speaker 4: I'm coming in during break to get an actual look
Speaker 4: at this because it looks especially because you described it perfectly.
Speaker 4: One arm looks significantly worse than the other. And I've
Speaker 4: never seen what you're showing the camera.
Speaker 2: She was just trying to get a vein and you know,
Speaker 2: and it's hurting. But I'm thinking, like well, man, this
Speaker 2: is this is the this is the once every six
Speaker 2: months where I do have to give a lot of blood,
Speaker 2: and man, she's this just this is just how it is.
Speaker 2: And little that I know she never got any blood's looking.
Speaker 4: There are certain people who would have reacted to that
Speaker 4: and probably lost their mind on those people. Yeah, and right,
Speaker 4: I mean rightfully, so we'll get I shouldn't be doing that.
Speaker 2: I think what made me more like just confused and
Speaker 2: like not really like was that whenever it was.
Speaker 3: Over, the fuck you cup blood because I.
Speaker 2: Didn't look, and then I find out, oh, we jabbed
Speaker 2: up both your arms, no blood sample, you gotta go
Speaker 2: next door. I'm just like what That's when I felt
Speaker 2: like I was on a hidden camera show or something.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back
Speaker 2: on the other side and bring him in. He's Alex
Speaker 2: Cupp or former Louisville cardinal. We'll get his thoughts on
Speaker 2: what he saw in week one against Austin p and
Speaker 2: where if there's anything you can actually you know, measure
Speaker 2: from week one to week two with these kind of
Speaker 2: these kind of opponents and feel like you're getting better.
Speaker 2: I feel like I've put the tall task here on Cup,
Speaker 2: because I feel like we're gonna find out where this
Speaker 2: team really is once they actually get to a real opponent,
Speaker 2: which is Georgia Tech.
Speaker 5: So stick with us.
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Speaker 3: Let's bring him in.
Speaker 2: It's time to talk some Louisville Cardinal football with the
Speaker 2: former Louisville Cardinal mister Alex Cupper Cup. Let's let's try
Speaker 2: to go back in time here. Let's say you're walking
Speaker 2: out of Cardinal Stadium last week after a beatdown against
Speaker 2: Austin p and I catch you leave it and I say, hey, Cup,
Speaker 2: can I get a second vibe? Check one word to
Speaker 2: describe the performance of the Louisville Cardinals. What what word
Speaker 2: would you use to describe the Davy performance last week?
Speaker 1: Ah?
Speaker 6: Clean?
Speaker 7: I think yeah, you'd say, I mean, if you're being objective.
Speaker 3: To everything, I like it clean.
Speaker 6: Uh, yeah, they did. They did everything they were supposed to.
Speaker 7: Probably wasn't perfect, you know a little more Uh mismatch
Speaker 7: and and talent and competition level you know reflects the score.
Speaker 7: But when it comes to going out and and then
Speaker 7: posting your will on somebody should a lot of times
Speaker 7: you can find teams sleepwalking and it looks ugly. Then
Speaker 7: by all means, they played really They played fast and physical,
Speaker 7: which is what you want. You want to overpower teams
Speaker 7: that you're supposed to. But I'm sure there was a
Speaker 7: lot of mental errors and a lot of things to
Speaker 7: clean up.
Speaker 6: So uh, to the to the fans.
Speaker 7: Perspective, it was clean, But I'm sure from the team's
Speaker 7: perspective there's still more to more to get better at,
Speaker 7: which is which is encouraging.
Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck a heck of a debut for him in
Speaker 2: a cardinal uniform, tied Browning Nagel's touchdown record for Davy
Speaker 2: performance put up some really good numbers connected with a
Speaker 2: variety of different guys. Uh, well, you know you have
Speaker 2: an eye for this more so than most of us
Speaker 2: as far as just maybe seeing something that we wouldn't see.
Speaker 2: What stood out to you about Tyler Shuck? I mean,
Speaker 2: to me, again, your opinion is much more valuable than
Speaker 2: mine in this regard. I just felt like he had
Speaker 2: he had a confidence about himself, not just with his arm,
Speaker 2: but the way he carried himself. And I think you
Speaker 2: always want that in your quarterback. A guy that looks
Speaker 2: very sure of what he's doing out there.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, yeah, I'm I mean first person persons. I mean
Speaker 7: I've seen him in practice, but when you get in,
Speaker 7: you know, you put on the full game apparel. Just
Speaker 7: sometimes you're you're kind of taken back a little bit.
Speaker 7: Just how how the size on him, right, I mean
Speaker 7: he stays pretty imposing, But overall, I mean, yeah, he's
Speaker 7: he's a guy that is confident in what he's doing,
Speaker 7: which is exactly Yeah, that's the number one trait you
Speaker 7: want in your quarterback. Yes, you need talent, uh, but
Speaker 7: you also need to believe in the talent that you have.
Speaker 7: And so some of those throws you saw him making,
Speaker 7: and and the creativity he takes to try and get.
Speaker 6: Him and move the ball around.
Speaker 7: And get the ball out quickly is a big thing
Speaker 7: that you know, you hear coach brom talk about is
Speaker 7: getting the ball into playmaker's hands on time inaccurately. I mean,
Speaker 7: those are things that he was able to do and
Speaker 7: show that he can do. So it didn't matter, it
Speaker 7: didn't matter who was who was the you know, the
Speaker 7: pursuing defense. There was gonna to be yards to be
Speaker 7: had just based on how he was executing, which is
Speaker 7: that's very encouraging.
Speaker 6: If you look down the road.
Speaker 2: As a former offensive lineman, a guy who is a
Speaker 2: big part of the Louisville offense during your time as
Speaker 2: a player, I remember I remember just kind of seeing
Speaker 2: body language not just from you guys in the trenches,
Speaker 2: but just everybody around a quarterbacks confidence can really be
Speaker 2: infectious to the entire unit. And you know, it's it's
Speaker 2: Austin p and they've got Jacksonville State this weekend. So
Speaker 2: it'll be a little you know, we'll have to wait
Speaker 2: and see what that kind of stuff looks like when
Speaker 2: they get to two more opponents. But I feel like
Speaker 2: as much as that's a small thing, it is really
Speaker 2: encouraging because I get the sense that this group as
Speaker 2: a whole, they feel pretty confident with with Tyler Schuck
Speaker 2: kind of running the show and Jeff Bron being the
Speaker 2: guy kind of orchestrating it, calling the plays. Again, it's
Speaker 2: just one game, but those are little things that stood
Speaker 2: out to me.
Speaker 7: Yes, and you're you're spot on those those sort of things.
Speaker 7: You just since when you when you feel a quarterback
Speaker 7: walk into your huddle and you know that you can
Speaker 7: feel that he knows what he's doing, you can feel
Speaker 7: that he's ready. You know that he understands what the
Speaker 7: coach is trying to call and understands what his job.
Speaker 7: You know what he's going to execute. He just needs
Speaker 7: the other ten guys in the huddle to do their job.
Speaker 7: So when you when you have that play back and forth,
Speaker 7: it's that's yeah, that's when you can see.
Speaker 6: The bounce a.
Speaker 7: Little bit and all other position groups.
Speaker 2: Rich Rodriguez as the coach of this Jacksonville State team,
Speaker 2: it is crazy. I mean, he's had a roller coaster
Speaker 2: of a career since we really got to know a
Speaker 2: lot about him during his time at West Virginia when
Speaker 2: that rivalry was in full flex. I still think that
Speaker 2: Rich Rod bringing that West Virginia team here back in
Speaker 2: the fall of two thousand and six, that was the
Speaker 2: most electric atmosphere I can ever remember for Louisville football
Speaker 2: from my end, But how wild is it that here
Speaker 2: we are, you know, nineteen years later and he's bringing
Speaker 2: back a team that's relatively brand new to the FBS level.
Speaker 2: And you know, I don't think Louisvill's on upset alert
Speaker 2: by any means, but by all accounts, he's proven to
Speaker 2: be a pretty good ball coach.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I mean, he's very very old school when it comes
Speaker 7: to his demeanor and his approach when it comes to
Speaker 7: being you know, more of a rigid, more hard nos
Speaker 7: you know, discipline, discipline, discipline, those things are needed, but
Speaker 7: you have to be a little more creative. You can't
Speaker 7: just be a drill sergeant in this day and age.
Speaker 3: And it's changed a lot, hasn't it.
Speaker 6: It has changed a ton. You know.
Speaker 7: I listened to Pat McFee quite a bit, and he
Speaker 7: obviously played for Rich Rod at at West Virginia in
Speaker 7: those years that you speak of. And if some of
Speaker 7: those stories are like, okay, that all shakes out just
Speaker 7: based on how he how he portrays himself, you know,
Speaker 7: to the to the broader audience and in the media
Speaker 7: and all that. So yeah, I mean, you're gonna you
Speaker 7: have some hard nose, hard nose cats coming in here
Speaker 7: Saturday at the very least, So I gonna have to
Speaker 7: buckle it up for that on that regard. But yeah,
Speaker 7: it's Jacksonville State entering into you know, the D one
Speaker 7: level is is you know, always gonna have challenges.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this line the movement is wild. I'm not
Speaker 2: surprised in the grand scheme of things now to see
Speaker 2: Louisville favored by more than four touchdowns, but it opened
Speaker 2: up it closer to twenty one. A lot of movement,
Speaker 2: and I think that's understandable. But I still think with
Speaker 2: Jacksonville'll put it this way just from a fans perspective,
Speaker 2: and what do I know, but I think you if
Speaker 2: they didn't have rich Rod as a coach, I'll be
Speaker 2: honest with you, I'd be looking at it a little
Speaker 2: bit differently. Not to say that I think louisll was
Speaker 2: on upset alert, but he is a guy that you know,
Speaker 2: I think even his team has to know they've got
Speaker 2: a coach that has competed at a high level and
Speaker 2: done a lot of successful things in his time. And
Speaker 2: I know West Virginia's not on the schedule this weekend.
Speaker 2: But I got to ask you when you guys went
Speaker 2: there and won. It was one of the first big
Speaker 2: wins I remember for Coach Strong. I think they were
Speaker 2: ranked in the top twenty at the time. You guys
Speaker 2: beat him in Morgantown. Andrew Johnson had a big pick
Speaker 2: six and he blew kisses to the crowd in Morgantown
Speaker 2: playing in that atmosphere, Like, did you get stuff thrown
Speaker 2: at you? I've never been to Morgantown, don't plan to go,
Speaker 2: but it is still to this day by most leivel
Speaker 2: fans I've ever talked to as the nastiest environment you
Speaker 2: can go and play in.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that is definitely more hostile. I think
Speaker 7: it's it's a good good environment to play in. And
Speaker 7: I say that because you really feel that energy and
Speaker 7: you can feed off of it.
Speaker 6: And that's what we did that.
Speaker 3: I love you bring it right, Like, hey, we're in
Speaker 3: a nasty environment. Let's go compete.
Speaker 7: You definitely do not want to play an environment that's
Speaker 7: that is more lax and and like just like okay,
Speaker 7: you you you put on the performance and and we'll
Speaker 7: we'll plan on sharing if we like it.
Speaker 6: Or not kind of thing. There's there's there are crowds
Speaker 6: like that. We played in front of them.
Speaker 7: So when you when you have that kind of vile energy,
Speaker 7: it makes it makes things a lot a lot better
Speaker 7: when you went especially, But.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that that was that, and really they were.
Speaker 7: They were I think it was like twenty third, twenty
Speaker 7: second ranked team at the time, but they finished I
Speaker 7: mean they ended up finishing.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, Geno Smith's year. They I mean they were.
Speaker 7: They went to the Orange Bowl beat the absolute breaks
Speaker 7: off of Clemson, taj Boyd and Clemson. That's what, right people.
Speaker 3: Thing happened, wasn't it.
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Clemsoning was Clemsoning and they were Yeah, there's
Speaker 7: this quality, you know, ACC school that's so perennial and
Speaker 7: they can light up scoreboard and GINO and and TV.
Speaker 7: I think Tavon Austin was on that team. Steven Bailey
Speaker 7: definitely was.
Speaker 2: Do you remember the score of that game? I just
Speaker 2: looked it up game with no No Clemson.
Speaker 6: And they put seventy on.
Speaker 3: Them, seventy seventy to thirty three.
Speaker 2: That is I mean, I would have never remembered that
Speaker 2: until you said it, but I do remember that being
Speaker 2: like because that's that's a it's a big bowl game.
Speaker 6: There, Yeah, Orange Bowl.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, and yeah, I mean that was in per
Speaker 7: for coach Trong, a coach strong team. That was that
Speaker 7: was about as close to a shootout as you were
Speaker 7: going to get. You know, if we we were scoring
Speaker 7: a bunch of points, typically the other team wasn't scoring
Speaker 7: a ton of points. So I think it was we
Speaker 7: it was thirty five thirty something or I forget what
Speaker 7: the final was against uh, that West Virginia team, but yeah,
Speaker 7: that was that was a very very pivotal moment. I remember, well, let's.
Speaker 2: Get we need to be given the biggies football as
Speaker 2: the kids say, they're flowers, because that was a heck
Speaker 2: of a showing from West Virginia in that game. And
Speaker 2: the next year you guys in the Sugar Bowl taking
Speaker 2: down that Florida to that this is actually giving me
Speaker 2: some new life because the ACC I'm not sure what
Speaker 2: the league can do to get respect cup. I mean,
Speaker 2: Florida State last year undefeated, and I get why they
Speaker 2: were left out, even though it is a tough thing
Speaker 2: to deal with, like I understand it in the grand
Speaker 2: scheme of things. And then they come out after feeling disrespected,
Speaker 2: and this year they've just been a complete mess. You
Speaker 2: have Virginia Tech losing to Vandy, which is a really
Speaker 2: bad look from a player's perspective. And I know a
Speaker 2: lot has changed since you play. Not to make you
Speaker 2: sound like a grandpa, I keep doing that, and I'm
Speaker 2: sorry you're younger than I am. But like if players,
Speaker 2: you think they hear that and pay much attention, like
Speaker 2: they have to know they can't control it. But like
Speaker 2: if Lowell wins the ACC this year, and look, they
Speaker 2: just played in the championship game a year ago, like
Speaker 2: that's a big deal. And yet because of social media,
Speaker 2: just because of the new cycle and what it is,
Speaker 2: everybody having a platform. I just, you know, I just
Speaker 2: wish there was something that could be done to where
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be looked at as if it's not such
Speaker 2: a big accompt much man, And I'm getting ahead of myself.
Speaker 2: Who knows if, look, they're going to do it or not.
Speaker 2: But when you look at the league and you see
Speaker 2: how you know, Miami looks really good. Florida State again,
Speaker 2: they don't have to play them in the regular season,
Speaker 2: have a hard time thinking they're going to see them
Speaker 2: in the chamionship if they get there. Obviously Clemson, I
Speaker 2: think that was more to do with Georgia than anything else.
Speaker 2: But I just wish the ACC could get a little.
Speaker 3: Bit more love.
Speaker 2: And yet here we are going back down memory lane
Speaker 2: and the big issues to get crapped on. But when
Speaker 2: they had a chance, more often than not, I feel
Speaker 2: like they did kind of punch up and say hey,
Speaker 2: we're here too.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: No, I mean you definitely have to take that underdog
Speaker 7: mentality and have the conference collectively do that and have
Speaker 7: the kids on those teams, you know, want to show
Speaker 7: up and and and show.
Speaker 6: You know, everyone that it's got to get a good chip, right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you got you gotta put that chip on your
Speaker 7: So you should have that no matter what. You can't
Speaker 7: can't lose that even when you even when you get
Speaker 7: up there with the with those programs that you mentioned. Uh,
Speaker 7: but it's unfortunate because it's I mean, you only have
Speaker 7: two times a year you can really prove it ones
Speaker 7: that in the opening weekends where you have these big
Speaker 7: matchups cross conference. So you but you're usually trying to
Speaker 7: iron things out and you might be on the road
Speaker 7: in a hostile environment trying to do it. So a
Speaker 7: Notre Dame, for example, took took that and made it
Speaker 7: that made it the most beneficial going into an m
Speaker 7: But then you got Clemson that rolled into Atlanta and
Speaker 7: got stomped. So the other time to do it is
Speaker 7: in bowl games, and we all know what happens when
Speaker 7: it's not a bowl game that matters. So you you
Speaker 7: got to show up in the postseason essentially and beat
Speaker 7: some of these cross conferences to earn that respect.
Speaker 6: And you know the a SEC.
Speaker 7: Has not put that put that in our wheelhouse the
Speaker 7: pastoral years.
Speaker 2: Former little of Cardinal Alex Cuppers, our guest joining us
Speaker 2: here on Sports Talk seven ninety just, uh, some some
Speaker 2: any big takeaways from the first week of action. I
Speaker 2: know we've had technically two weeks with week zero, but
Speaker 2: you know, any any real big, any real big surprises
Speaker 2: for you as far as you know the big games
Speaker 2: it was. I mean USC, I didn't expect them to
Speaker 2: knock off l s U. Doesn't make Louis of Us
Speaker 2: lost to them last year seem as add even though
Speaker 2: you know it was a season ago. You talked about
Speaker 2: Notre Dame and that obviously sets up to where if
Speaker 2: they take care of business is going to be a
Speaker 2: lot on the line for the Cards when they go
Speaker 2: up to South Bend. But just any any big takeaways
Speaker 2: from the first week of action.
Speaker 7: I no, I mean, I think I think Notre Dame
Speaker 7: that that was that was extremely impressive. When you think
Speaker 7: about how many young guys they had starting on both
Speaker 7: sides of the ball. I mean that the defense definitely
Speaker 7: has way more perennial, uh, you know, all American type talent,
Speaker 7: So watching them show up and really own that game
Speaker 7: was wasn't as shocking. But you know, having having youngsters
Speaker 7: step into that environment and perform like they did, that's
Speaker 7: that speaks a lot of I mean, that's that's a big,
Speaker 7: very quality win. And with their schedule shaving, I mean,
Speaker 7: I would I would assume they're going to be undefeated
Speaker 7: when we walk up in there, and that'll be probably
Speaker 7: a top five team at that point. So that's a
Speaker 7: huge opportunity when you think about it from Louisville's perspective.
Speaker 7: But yeah, all the all the pieces other than Clemson
Speaker 7: trying to trying to take shape on our schedule and
Speaker 7: you know, put put some quality opponent, you know, make
Speaker 7: making sure those opponents you know, stay stay on that
Speaker 7: echelon and don't slip like the Georgia Techs.
Speaker 6: Of the world.
Speaker 7: And you know, Kentucky's always going to be tough, and
Speaker 7: it has been tough for us to play. So there's
Speaker 7: a lot of good challenges for this football team I see,
Speaker 7: which is probably the most encouraging when you think about
Speaker 7: opportunity to make a statement, Like we just talked about Cup.
Speaker 6: You are the man.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you who is always making time for us. Let's
Speaker 2: hope the Cards get to two and zero after this
Speaker 2: week and we'll do it again next week.
Speaker 6: Brother, let's do it.
Speaker 3: Take care.
Speaker 2: It's Alex Cupper, former little of Card and will always
Speaker 2: appreciate him making time for us.
Speaker 3: Good stuff.
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