Speaker 1: It's with Dan Ray. I'm telling you easy Boston News Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, well, the Trump administration has now been in
Speaker 2: office for seven days plus ten hours, so believe it.
Speaker 3: In a week, there's one hundred and sixty eight hours.
Speaker 3: I once figured that out seven.
Speaker 2: Times twenty four.
Speaker 3: That doesn't sound right though, seven times twenty four. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's it, that's right, seven times twenty four. Let me
Speaker 3: double check that here real quickly when they carry too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: one's sixty eight okay, and you got to add ten now.
Speaker 3: So it's been in less than two hundred hours.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: And we have seen a lot of executive water signed
Speaker 2: and all of that. But the area where the Trump
Speaker 2: administration has probably made the most impact the first week
Speaker 2: is these immigration rates across the country, including some arrest
Speaker 2: here in Boston. So Newsweek magazine is reporting that there
Speaker 2: have been arrests into or raids made in places like
Speaker 2: San Francisco, in Colorado, in Denver, Denver, Colorado, and also
Speaker 2: I believe in Aurora, Colorado, in Saint Paul, Minnesota, in Chicago, Illinois,
Speaker 2: in Boston, and in New York, I guess, also in Newark,
Speaker 2: New Jersey, Buffalo, New York, and down in Miami, and
Speaker 2: I think I saw some numbers today that suggested that
Speaker 2: through the weekend there was somewhere around twenty nine hundred
Speaker 2: people who had been arrested. Now, each case is different,
Speaker 2: but the people who are currently being apprehended by ICE
Speaker 2: officials are people who were obviously known to ICE officials,
Speaker 2: and many, in many cases are people who had some
Speaker 2: pretty significant criminal backgrounds. So, for example, in San Francisco,
Speaker 2: agents reportedly arrest the Mexican man convicted of sexual exploitation
Speaker 2: of a child. In Denver, a couple of members a
Speaker 2: couple of men convicted of continuous sexual abuse of child
Speaker 2: aged fourteen or younger. In Saint Paul, two men convicted
Speaker 2: of third degree criminal sexual conduct with a minor. In Chicago,
Speaker 2: multiple people arrested in the Chicago suburbs that the source
Speaker 2: on that is ABC News in Chicago. In Buffalo, a
Speaker 2: man arrested convicted of rape, another one convicted of sexual
Speaker 2: conduct against the child. In New York, Salvador MS thirteen
Speaker 2: gang member, Jamaican citizen who arrested for sexual exploitation of
Speaker 2: a minor, and a Hunduran citizen with a drunk driving conviction.
Speaker 2: In Boston alleged MS thirteen gang member arrested. Now for
Speaker 2: some reason. Also, I guess in Puerto Rico, they've arrested
Speaker 2: and alleged alien of the Dominican Republic was arrested in
Speaker 2: by a moon Puerto Rico chruns with domestic violence. Officers
Speaker 2: also arrested a second person. Obviously, Puerto Rico is a
Speaker 2: protectorate of the United States. So the big dispute of
Speaker 2: the weekend which caught my eye was for the first time,
Speaker 2: late last week you saw people who had been arrested
Speaker 2: and were being deported were loaded onto American military aircraft
Speaker 2: and some have been flown I guess to Guatemala, and
Speaker 2: there were two planes headed to Colombia, and I guess
Speaker 2: the president of Columbia, who I did not know his name,
Speaker 2: I must tell you his name is Gustavo Patrol. Petrol.
Speaker 2: He's apparently a socialist, doesn't particularly like Donald Trump, which
Speaker 2: is because a lot of Americans that don't particularly like
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Apparently he initially said, no, we're not going
Speaker 2: to take any repatriating repatriation flights. According again to USA Today,
Speaker 2: he was upset that the Trump administration were treating Colombian
Speaker 2: migrants also actually people who were here illegally, aliens like criminals,
Speaker 2: and he was upset by the images of his countrymen
Speaker 2: in handcuffs. He said this again a court to USA Today.
Speaker 2: He said his country would not accept deportation flights from
Speaker 2: the US unless migrants are treated with the dignity that
Speaker 2: a human being deserves. So Donald Trump said very quickly,
Speaker 2: these measures are just beginning. He posted on Sunday, we
Speaker 2: will not allow the Colombian government to violate its legal
Speaker 2: obligations with regard to the acceptance and return of the
Speaker 2: criminals they forced into the United States. So at that
Speaker 2: point Trump, President Trump also said that he would impose
Speaker 2: a tariff. He had also prevent Colombian officials from coming
Speaker 2: to the United States on visas, and he was cracking down.
Speaker 2: The President of Colombia, in turn, got tough and said, well,
Speaker 2: he was going to put a tariff. He ordered his
Speaker 2: trade minister to increase Columbia's tariffs on US goods by
Speaker 2: twenty five percent. According to the USA Today article that
Speaker 2: I'm reading, the tip for tat came as Trump is
Speaker 2: seeking to aggressively act on his promise of mass deportations
Speaker 2: of immigrants in the country illegally. During this first week
Speaker 2: in office, Trump declared a national emergency at the US
Speaker 2: Mexico border and ordered US troops to carry out deportations.
Speaker 2: He goes Patro, the president of Columbia, the US cannot
Speaker 2: treat Colombian migrants as criminals. Wrote in a Sunday morning
Speaker 2: series of posts on X, I deny the entry of
Speaker 2: American planes carrying Colombian migrants into our territory. The United
Speaker 2: States must establish a protocol for the dignified treatment of
Speaker 2: migrants before we received them. So they were challenged, the
Speaker 2: challenges and threats made back and forth, and lo and
Speaker 2: behold Now, according to Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Colombian
Speaker 2: President Patro has authorized flights and provided all needed authorizations
Speaker 2: and then canceled his authorization when the planes were in
Speaker 2: the air, as demonstrated by today's actions, are on wavering
Speaker 2: in our commitment and I legal immigration in bolster American security. Well,
Speaker 2: apparently the president of Columbia has caved and basically said, Okay,
Speaker 2: it's a little unclear to me if he is going
Speaker 2: to send his planes to pick up his migrants or
Speaker 2: if he's going to allow US planes to apply his
Speaker 2: migrants home. But obviously the migrants on these planes, many
Speaker 2: of whom are dangerous individuals, they are handcuffed or shackled
Speaker 2: because you don't want them to be taking over an airplane.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's understandable. And on this one, you've got
Speaker 2: to put a w in Donald Trump's column. The Colombian
Speaker 2: president climbed out on a limb, said you do this,
Speaker 2: We'll do that, back and forth, and Donald Trump basically
Speaker 2: stared him down. This guy caved. Now, I don't don't
Speaker 2: know if that sets a precedent for other countries. I
Speaker 2: think it's going to be interesting how all of this transpires.
Speaker 2: My question is pretty simple, and I ask I like
Speaker 2: to ask simple questions and get direct answers. I don't understand.
Speaker 2: I really don't understand. The law says, if you are
Speaker 2: here illegally and you commit a serious crime, you're subject
Speaker 2: to deportation. That's what the law says. And the law
Speaker 2: refers to the folks who are here illegally as illegal aliens.
Speaker 2: So the federal statutes say, I don't understand why anyone,
Speaker 2: even Governor of Massachusetts mar Healey says we're not a
Speaker 2: sanctuary state, and she has said as recently as last
Speaker 2: week that we will cooperate with ICE. Massachusetts will cooperate
Speaker 2: with ICE if they try to apprehend individuals who were
Speaker 2: here legally and have committed serious crimes. Now, it just
Speaker 2: is common sense. If you were out there tonight and
Speaker 2: you feel that somehow these actions which President Trump has
Speaker 2: ordered under the direction of Tom Holman's are some or
Speaker 2: Homan are somehow cruel and unusual or something and unconstitutional.
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know what the argument is. I
Speaker 2: really do not understand that. So I'm going to invite
Speaker 2: those of you who would like to acknowledge that I think,
Speaker 2: in terms of this stare down with the Columbian president,
Speaker 2: President Trump and the Trump administration have won. Or if
Speaker 2: you're somebody who really feels like the minister who spoke
Speaker 2: the other day down at the National Cathedral towards President Trump,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think there language was inappropriate, absolutely inappropriate.
Speaker 2: But if you want to talk about her, we'll We'll
Speaker 2: just open this conversation up six seven, four ten thirty,
Speaker 2: six seven nine three, one ten thirty. Come on right
Speaker 2: back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now, back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ news radio, just.
Speaker 2: Reading out of the New York Times from earlier today.
Speaker 2: Several immigration advocacy groups in Illinois filed a lawsuit against
Speaker 2: ICE last week attempting to prohibit the agency from conducting
Speaker 2: certain immigration operations in Chicago. The lawsuit asserted that the
Speaker 2: Trump administration was curtailing free speech through its deportation threats
Speaker 2: and targeting Chicago because of its sanctuary city status. Throw
Speaker 2: that case out of court. How are you curtailing free
Speaker 2: speech through its deportation threats? This is where the left
Speaker 2: just losing it, just losing it. According to The Times,
Speaker 2: Tom Holm and mister Trump's votas are set on Sunday
Speaker 2: yesterday that the operation in Chicago, which was focused on
Speaker 2: public safety threats with a criminal background, had resulted in
Speaker 2: some arrests, though he did not specify how many. They
Speaker 2: included members of the Venzuelan gang trend Diagua, and individuals
Speaker 2: with sexual offenses, some of whom he said had been
Speaker 2: convicted of other crimes. I just think that maybe there's
Speaker 2: someone out there who can make the case to me
Speaker 2: why these raids should not occur and why people and again,
Speaker 2: if you want to call them sweeps, you want to
Speaker 2: call them raids out of there's no definition that I
Speaker 2: know of in any dictionary which says that a raid
Speaker 2: in order to be categorized as a raid, you have
Speaker 2: to have x numbers of arrests, or in order to
Speaker 2: have a sweep, it's x numbers of arrests. Obviously, the
Speaker 2: Times is reporting, and I think the number was yesterday.
Speaker 2: There were nine hundred and fifty six arrest around the
Speaker 2: country on Sunday. That's a lot of people for one day.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of people. Let me go to Rashid
Speaker 2: in Dorchester. Rashid, you were first this hour on Nightside.
Speaker 2: How are you, sir?
Speaker 5: I'm well, Dan. Lots of cover here, huh yeah, there are,
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 2: A lot of loop moving parts. And also it's pretty
Speaker 2: apparent to me that ICE is not being particularly forthcoming,
Speaker 2: which is frustrating in terms of the number of arrests
Speaker 2: and in what communities those arrests are being effectuated.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, I think they're doing a good job.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you've seen the short that they
Speaker 5: did on Fox News in Boston when they were doing
Speaker 5: the raids. It was quite funny, I mean, especially when
Speaker 5: they caught the guy that they were seeking, and then
Speaker 5: they found another guy that was there illegally and they
Speaker 5: just were like, Oh, it's collateral. I mean the way
Speaker 5: I view this is I think it's a step in
Speaker 5: the in the right direction. Uh, we're back, Dan. And
Speaker 5: what I mean by that is, you've seen what happened
Speaker 5: with Columbia. This is this is how we're going to
Speaker 5: be operating. This is how a superpower and a leader operates.
Speaker 5: You know, you're going to take back your people that
Speaker 5: are here coming crimes, and if you don't, we're going
Speaker 5: to tear if you, we're going to sanction you. We're
Speaker 5: going to pull the visas from your family members and
Speaker 5: governments coming into this country. I think he just threatened
Speaker 5: China with the same thing, and this is what we
Speaker 5: have to do. It's great, this is this is America.
Speaker 5: We're back Dan.
Speaker 2: Right. But let me let me ask you the let
Speaker 2: me ask you this for Sheet, as someone who is
Speaker 2: a longtime supporter of President you know, Trump and also
Speaker 2: candidate Trump, why would Ice not feel inappropriate to at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, Uh, give a sort of
Speaker 2: a a running list of Okay, we made x numbers
Speaker 2: of arrest around the country. We were functioning in You
Speaker 2: don't have to tell me where you're going to be tomorrow,
Speaker 2: but why not? You know, just like when you get
Speaker 2: up in the morning, you read the newspaper. I go
Speaker 2: to the sports page, to the Bruins win. How did
Speaker 2: the Celtics do they're on the West Coast. I went
Speaker 2: to sleep before the end of the game. Had the
Speaker 2: Red Sox picked up another right handed batter? Or what
Speaker 2: what are the Patriots doing? Who's who did the rabel
Speaker 2: just hire as assistant coaches? I don't need to have
Speaker 2: you tell me the day before we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 2: raid this this community, uh, in this section of that town. No,
Speaker 2: that puts your your personnel in danger. But I just
Speaker 2: don't get the theory, the strategy to to sit on information.
Speaker 2: It makes it sound, it makes it sound too secretive.
Speaker 2: I mean, if if this is what the Trump administration
Speaker 2: is going to do, which they have every right to do,
Speaker 2: they should be proud of it, and they should they
Speaker 2: should publicize and say, look, we we arrested X numbers
Speaker 2: of people, uh, certain numbers of them have been convicted
Speaker 2: of this type of crime, certain numbers of this type
Speaker 2: of crime. I think the Herald has an interesting story
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning. Go ahead.
Speaker 5: They're do well on if you follow the ICE page
Speaker 5: on Twitter, they're posting every day how many people they
Speaker 5: have arrested and how many people have been launched. So
Speaker 5: I don't know regarding if they're going into the detail
Speaker 5: about Okay, we arrested ten people who are legally here
Speaker 5: from Columbia, or or we arrested five people that all
Speaker 5: had sexual uh they were sexual predators. But they're they're
Speaker 5: putting out the numbers and they're doing the best they can.
Speaker 5: I think that a lot of us where where we
Speaker 5: have high expectations for the mass deportations, but I think
Speaker 5: realistically ICE doesn't have the money nor the personnel. I mean,
Speaker 5: they just deputized all the other federal agencies, from the
Speaker 5: FBI to the US Marshals to everybody else to participate
Speaker 5: in the and and the deportation. But you know, if
Speaker 5: they're really going to go mass scale, I think people
Speaker 5: have to expect the military to get in involved with it,
Speaker 5: like Eisenhower did in the fifties. But I mean, I
Speaker 5: don't know if it's going to go to that level.
Speaker 5: But they are logging again, I don't know if they're
Speaker 5: giving it in the detail that you would like, but
Speaker 5: it's definitely what I would like to say.
Speaker 2: Here's what I would like to see that that if
Speaker 2: they're making if they're taking people into custody for the
Speaker 2: purpose of deporting them, I think that it's only reasonable
Speaker 2: for ICE. And again, they're not doing it in such
Speaker 2: numbers at this point that are overwhelming. It looks to
Speaker 2: me like they've done about twenty eight hundred arrests in
Speaker 2: the first few days. I simply think that at the
Speaker 2: end of every given any given day, they could say, Okay,
Speaker 2: in Chicago, the following people were arrested. You know, you
Speaker 2: know Robert Smith, he was you know, he was arrested,
Speaker 2: uh in the country illegally guilty of this, so that
Speaker 2: people can see what's going on, because what happens is
Speaker 2: that the other side is now saying, oh, they're going
Speaker 2: to arrest kids in school, and they're going to arrest uh,
Speaker 2: you know, priests and nuns and you know the you know,
Speaker 2: the the left is so much more effective at at
Speaker 2: basically controlling the narrative, even when ICE is in charge
Speaker 2: of the narrative. That's all I'm saying. If you're doing
Speaker 2: it be proud of it so that that people can
Speaker 2: see that, hey, it is. It is a group of
Speaker 2: bad people that are being deported, people who shouldn't be here.
Speaker 2: And because that's the people in the middle, and you
Speaker 2: give it as i'll call it, hits, runs and errors.
Speaker 2: You know, just get how many got arrested, how many
Speaker 2: different category crimes, or give us the cities. Don't tell
Speaker 2: me where you're going tomorrow. I don't want to put
Speaker 2: your your guys in your guys and gals in danger.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, But I think when it comes to the left,
Speaker 5: I don't think we have to we got to stop
Speaker 5: with the media capitulation. I think that's kind of one of.
Speaker 2: The Rashid was I'm looking for information. There's no media
Speaker 2: capitulation here.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 5: I mean when you said about the left, like like
Speaker 5: we got to put things out so the left can't
Speaker 5: attack us, I mean we don't. Who cares what the
Speaker 5: left has to say? Man, I think the.
Speaker 2: People I'll tell you you you can't why you should
Speaker 2: care what the left is doing, because they're they're suggesting
Speaker 2: that all the everywhere you read, the read, the read
Speaker 2: the Globe today and the front pages fear in the community,
Speaker 2: and so there's a lot of people who are influenced
Speaker 2: by that and are saying, oh, this is terrible. They're
Speaker 2: going after, you know, school teachers and school kids, when
Speaker 2: in fact they're going after murderers and rapists.
Speaker 5: I think I think that gets made clear. But it's like,
Speaker 5: you know, the media is going to be the media,
Speaker 5: and they're appearing to a group of people that are
Speaker 5: going to vote the same way. I think that the
Speaker 5: American people had a big mandate in November.
Speaker 2: I mean, what was what was the percentage of the
Speaker 2: president's vote? This how much? What was his percentage? It
Speaker 2: was like fifty points something percent. It was fifty points
Speaker 2: something percent. A mandate. And again I think that the
Speaker 2: best argument he has is that he carried all of
Speaker 2: the swing states and all of that. But what I'm
Speaker 2: saying is eventually mandates can go in. I'm just giving
Speaker 2: you look, I'm having trouble getting information from ICE, okay,
Speaker 2: And I think that ICE, if they're functioning on behalf
Speaker 2: of the American public and functioning on behalf of parting taxpayers,
Speaker 2: they have an obligation to let us know, Okay, what
Speaker 2: are you doing and why are you're doing it, And
Speaker 2: the best way to prove that is to tell me
Speaker 2: who's been arrested and what are the crimes of being
Speaker 2: arrested for, Because if you don't, the other side is
Speaker 2: going to say they're arresting people because it was they
Speaker 2: had a parking ticket and this guy was here. Oh,
Speaker 2: they're arresting a pretty bad on brace right now, So.
Speaker 5: Why hide that? Well, Like I said, Dan, I think
Speaker 5: that you know, the information gets put out Twitter on Twitter.
Speaker 5: I think they home and had an interview. He was
Speaker 5: out catching them with doctor Phil. I mean, we've put
Speaker 5: the information out there for these people, but they're always
Speaker 5: gonna twist it and contort it.
Speaker 2: So I just think that you and I are going
Speaker 2: to have to agree to disagree this. First of all,
Speaker 2: the fact that doctor Phil was out there, What the
Speaker 2: hell was doctor Phil doing out there? What was he
Speaker 2: gonna give counsel to the I was I thought that
Speaker 2: was a joke. I mean, I thought to myself, doctor
Speaker 2: Phil gets himself some free publicity by going out there
Speaker 2: on an ice ray. I mean, that's that that that
Speaker 2: marginalizes its significance. How if I if I'm Tom Holman,
Speaker 2: I don't want any civilians out there with me, because
Speaker 2: what happens if somebody uh just anyway, well we will
Speaker 2: agree to disagree, my friend, I gotta go. Thank you,
Speaker 2: all right, thanks, thanks very much. We've got to break
Speaker 2: here at the bottom of the air. I got the
Speaker 2: news coming at you, I got William coming up, I
Speaker 2: got Paul in Grafton, and I got some room for you.
Speaker 2: If you disagree with me, do you want to know
Speaker 2: what ICE is doing? Or no, I want to know
Speaker 2: exactly what ICE is doing, Okay, And I gotta be
Speaker 2: honest with you. Ice seems to be in the first
Speaker 2: week to be very secretive. Now I will agree. Should
Speaker 2: they be announcing in advance where they're raving tomorrow?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not, absolutely not. That's not their responsibility anymore.
Speaker 2: It's the FBI's responsibility. We're going to do a drug
Speaker 2: rate tomorrow morning because we think that there's a group
Speaker 2: of drug people who are no that police don't authorities
Speaker 2: don't do that. They they hit at four o'clock, five
Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning. They're not waltzed in. Maybe in
Speaker 2: some cases they are. But if they think they got
Speaker 2: a bunch of bad people hunkered down somewhere, I mean,
Speaker 2: talk to any police officer want. Okay, that's just protocol.
Speaker 2: If they have to go at one o'clock in the
Speaker 2: afternoon because they feel that someone's in danger, they will.
Speaker 2: But I want to know who's being arrested and why,
Speaker 2: because they're saying, look, we're only going after the most dangerous,
Speaker 2: which I hope they are. I hope they are. Uh,
Speaker 2: and at what point they continue, Let's see, let's see
Speaker 2: how many dangerous people and let them tell us who
Speaker 2: they are. You tell me that they're MS thirteen members.
Speaker 2: I accept the fact. I'll accept what you tell me,
Speaker 2: but you got to tell me back on night Side
Speaker 2: six one seven, two five four thirty six one seven,
Speaker 2: nine thirty get a little wound up on this one,
Speaker 2: but that's okay, that'll get you involved, coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray ONBZ Boston's.
Speaker 2: News radio, at the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement site
Speaker 2: on Twitter, and just not much in terms of information,
Speaker 2: despite what my friend Rashid had to say. Enforcement update
Speaker 2: January twenty seventh, which is today twenty twenty five, eleven
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy nine arrest, eight hundred and fifty three detainers, lodged.
Speaker 2: No breakdown that I can see as to what communities
Speaker 2: or for what crimes. And I think that's a huge mistake.
Speaker 2: If the if the again it's it's it is much
Speaker 2: better to do stuff in the light of day. Let
Speaker 2: me go to William in Baltimore. I will bet you
Speaker 2: my friend William is going to agree with me. William, welcome.
Speaker 2: How are you tonight?
Speaker 6: All right? Now?
Speaker 4: You doing I haven't talk to you for a minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no problem, no problem. I hope you're doing well. Sorry,
Speaker 2: sorry that your your Ravens did not go further. I
Speaker 2: know you're a big Ravens fan. But there's always next year.
Speaker 2: So tell me about what's going on. You heard my
Speaker 2: conversation with Rashid. He's happy with the information elect thereof
Speaker 2: we're getting no information from Ice, and I think that's
Speaker 2: a huge mistake.
Speaker 4: I kind of gree with round see, you know, because
Speaker 4: I've vote for Trump tee then and you know, but
Speaker 4: I heard that from what I've been hearing right on
Speaker 4: the news and on the radio, because you know, I'm blind,
Speaker 4: I listened to a lot of radio. They said that
Speaker 4: they have been arresting, like you said, in all the
Speaker 4: different cities you know, I when I was going from
Speaker 4: my blindness training, I lived in Adams County, Colorado, and
Speaker 4: trained in Aurora. And I came out there in nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety nine, right when Columbine happen in February in nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety nine. And I stayed there until two thousand and four.
Speaker 4: And you know, it was always a very mixed population
Speaker 4: out there, you know. But I agree with what Trump
Speaker 4: is doing. I think that he only been in office
Speaker 4: five days. But like you said, the liberal media is
Speaker 4: going crazy. Hear in Baltimore. I can tell you that
Speaker 4: right now. It was a young lady, it's a young
Speaker 4: black professor here on the radio in Baltimore, and she
Speaker 4: gave the total opposite of what she was saying about
Speaker 4: the situation in Columbnia, you know, saying that, uh, well
Speaker 4: Trump was a bully and uh you know, doing this
Speaker 4: the only brown people and black people, and uh, you know,
Speaker 4: it's just it's the way they plan it, you know,
Speaker 4: and the people that's not really But but what I
Speaker 4: was trying.
Speaker 2: To what I was trying to say to Rashid, and
Speaker 2: and Rashid is a friend of mine, is as you're
Speaker 2: a friend of mine. Is that look if the Trump
Speaker 2: administration has decided we're going to go out and we're
Speaker 2: going to be very active, and we're going to find
Speaker 2: people and we're going to deport them, and clearly that's
Speaker 2: what they're trying to do. I think that from their perspective,
Speaker 2: you know, you'd be as honest and as open as possible,
Speaker 2: and you literally provide people with a lists, because once
Speaker 2: someone is arrested, that's a public record, and you kind
Speaker 2: of arrest people and not even if they're not US citizens,
Speaker 2: If if you arrest a foreign national, it's it's a
Speaker 2: public record. It's an action taken by a US agency.
Speaker 2: And I just think you put it out there. You
Speaker 2: put out as much information as you can in terms
Speaker 2: of who was arrested. If if you got their age,
Speaker 2: great find out. Let people see what's being who you're deporting.
Speaker 2: It was pretty clear when you looked at the people
Speaker 2: were getting on those flights that they were mostly young men,
Speaker 2: single men. I didn't see too many young women, or
Speaker 2: I didn't I actually didn't see any women. They looked
Speaker 2: the pictures, I saw a was all guys. Didn't see
Speaker 2: any school kids, didn't see any families. And if the
Speaker 2: narrative of the left is that they're going to deport families,
Speaker 2: and they're going to go into churches and schools and
Speaker 2: hospitals and pull people out of you.
Speaker 4: Well, you know what you've been doing basically, I say, lying.
Speaker 4: You know, let me ask you this question. When you
Speaker 4: traveled abroad, right, and you went to other countries? Because
Speaker 4: I was listening to another broadcast earlier and the guy
Speaker 4: told me when he went to Mexico, brother went, they tief,
Speaker 4: he said, they scutinized you, man, even though you were
Speaker 4: coming to the customs. You know, put you do the
Speaker 4: rhythm role. And I think the United States is just
Speaker 4: doing the same. That's all. They are finally doing what
Speaker 4: needs to be done. I understand what you're saying about
Speaker 4: the names and all that, but I think giving some time,
Speaker 4: maybe they will you know, maybe.
Speaker 2: Well maybe they will, but I but I think that
Speaker 2: they're they're making a mistake in the short run. I
Speaker 2: will tell you that when you go into other countries,
Speaker 2: because I have traveled abroad to other countries, it could
Speaker 2: be a little intimidating because you go up there, and
Speaker 2: it's also a little intimidating when you're coming home. You
Speaker 2: want to make sure that that the picture that you
Speaker 2: have in your passport bears some resemblance to what you
Speaker 2: look like, you know, because you're just dealing. But but
Speaker 2: in other countries, and as matter of fact, I remember
Speaker 2: going to Mexico once and we got pulled out. I
Speaker 2: was with my family, uh, and we were pulled out
Speaker 2: and everybody had to open up their suitcases. And what
Speaker 2: they told us was it was just ran them and
Speaker 2: it didn't matter. You know, if we had been one
Speaker 2: family earlier or one family later, we would have been okay.
Speaker 6: But but if you had.
Speaker 4: Stayed your visit in those countries, right, if you overstayed
Speaker 4: your visit in Mexico or any other country, right, they
Speaker 4: would have rescued. And what I don't understand about the
Speaker 4: left is they saying that they're going to do this,
Speaker 4: and they're gonna go into school, they're gonna go into
Speaker 4: churches and all that stuff, and they say these people
Speaker 4: are not criminals. But the act of coming across the
Speaker 4: border is a is a criminal act.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm not.
Speaker 2: But right now, what they're doing, as they tell us,
Speaker 2: is that they're going after the worst of the worst
Speaker 2: that they have, they arrested some of the crime members
Speaker 2: and some of the people in Colorado who had taken
Speaker 2: over some of those apartment buildings. Put it out there.
Speaker 2: I mean, the American public wants to see that information.
Speaker 2: I was very happy the other day when when President
Speaker 2: Trump said he wants to open up everything about the JFK,
Speaker 2: r f K and m Okay assassinations. I want to
Speaker 2: know everything about that, okay, because those people who were
Speaker 2: killed were people who who I respected. They were Americans
Speaker 2: who were murdered. That they were out trying to what
Speaker 2: they could the best that they could for the country,
Speaker 2: whether you agree to have voted for President Kennedy. Okay.
Speaker 2: There's all sorts of stuff about, uh, the people who
Speaker 2: might have been involved in the m l K assassination.
Speaker 2: That that this guy that shot him, James Earl Ray,
Speaker 2: no relation, different spelling, by the way, traveled in Europe.
Speaker 2: How the hell did this guy have money to travel
Speaker 2: in Europe. I want to know the whole I want
Speaker 2: to know the whole story. And uh and and I say,
Speaker 2: you know, open it all up. The truth will set
Speaker 2: us free. Simple as that same same principle here, William R.
Speaker 6: I understand all right.
Speaker 4: Man, I think they get to it. They'll give them
Speaker 4: some time.
Speaker 2: I love hearing your voice. I hope all as well. Okay,
Speaker 2: oh too, talk to you, be well, Happy new Year.
Speaker 2: We'll take a break. Paul and Grafton is going to
Speaker 2: be up next. I promise the only line that's open
Speaker 2: right now is six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.
Speaker 2: I'm going to start to pick up the pace here
Speaker 2: very quickly, So if you are on the line, fear not,
Speaker 2: I will get to you quickly. Paul's coming up. I
Speaker 2: got Rick and Dover and Warren in Fall River. You
Speaker 2: guys will all get on between now and at eleven o'clock.
Speaker 2: I promise I'd spent some time with Rashid and William.
Speaker 2: We're going to pick it up right after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan ray line from the window World
Speaker 1: Light Side Studios on w b Z the news radio.
Speaker 2: All right to the phones ago, Paul and graft and Paul,
Speaker 2: you were next on Nightside, sir.
Speaker 7: Welcome Well, Hi Dan, Happy new Year.
Speaker 5: How are ya?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great? Right back at you, Paul. What's your
Speaker 2: thought on what we're talking about?
Speaker 7: Well, I've got a long, long, long history my you know,
Speaker 7: my grandmother, mother's mother came from Lithuania. Dad's you know, parents,
Speaker 7: great grandparents came over from from Europe. And you know,
Speaker 7: back then you could immigrate, and but now the laws
Speaker 7: have changed. Second of all, I know what it's like
Speaker 7: to live as a foreigner. I lived in Guadalajara, Mexico
Speaker 7: for six years back in the nineties studying, And I know,
Speaker 7: you know what Mexico does to the illegal immigrants that
Speaker 7: come in from Central and South America.
Speaker 5: They booed him out.
Speaker 7: Sure, they do him out, but yeah, yeah, but all
Speaker 7: but when we try to send their people back, they
Speaker 7: get upset.
Speaker 2: Well they did. Obviously this steered down between President Trump
Speaker 2: and the president of Colombia. The guy from Colombia.
Speaker 7: Blinked, yeah, which is good. And I'm glad that Trump
Speaker 7: is putting his foot down and saying I'm glad that
Speaker 7: he's doing it this way.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, would you like more transparent?
Speaker 2: Here's my question? Would you not? Because I've talked to
Speaker 2: both Rashid and Mullian now about I want more transparency.
Speaker 2: I want to know every day how many people are deported.
Speaker 2: I want to know how many of them have been
Speaker 2: charged with serious crimes and or or convicted of serious crimes,
Speaker 2: and what are those serious crimes off? That's that's all.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 7: The thing is, the thing is, even if you know that,
Speaker 7: what what is that going to do for you?
Speaker 2: It's going to prove to me that what the Trump
Speaker 2: administration is saying is accurate and truthful. They're saying that
Speaker 2: they're going after the worst of the worst, and I
Speaker 2: believe them intuitively because I think it's a huge mistake
Speaker 2: of all of a sudden they were they were arresting
Speaker 2: you know, produce workers or or or you know, hotel
Speaker 2: cleaning crews. That's not what they're going after. They're going
Speaker 2: after sirius criminals who.
Speaker 7: Were here, which they should be, because when I was
Speaker 7: down Guadalajara, I mean I saw a lot of you know,
Speaker 7: criminals too. I mean we would we would be walking
Speaker 7: on the street and there would be a severed heads
Speaker 7: that we saw right in front of the seven eleven
Speaker 7: on the steps.
Speaker 6: Different drug yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Different mentality down there, different mentality. It's a wild wild West.
Speaker 2: Do me a favor, you know, just keep keep calling
Speaker 2: the show and you don't want more. I'm what I'm
Speaker 2: asking for is I want absolute transparency during this operation, and.
Speaker 7: I agree, you'd be sure we should get it because
Speaker 7: the worst of the worst should be sent out to
Speaker 7: make this country a better place and escape.
Speaker 2: We we have enough criminals in this country. We do
Speaker 2: not need to bring out the criminals in, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to say we don't have
Speaker 2: enough poets in this country and we should bring in
Speaker 2: more poets, okay, I could be convinced of that. If
Speaker 2: you want to tell me we need more people who
Speaker 2: have expertise and stained glass, and you want to bring
Speaker 2: people in because we need more stayed glass, that's fine.
Speaker 2: If you want to tell me, you know, the Red
Speaker 2: Sox need more more, more pictures from other countries, I'm
Speaker 2: okay with that.
Speaker 7: But yeah, it's also controlled. I also have friends, a
Speaker 7: friend that used to work for the CIA. He's now
Speaker 7: a physician. I'm in the medical field, and we agreed
Speaker 7: on this. All the drug trafficking, all the money laundering,
Speaker 7: all the sex trade, all of that, all the illegal
Speaker 7: immigration in the end somehow benefits the United States benefits
Speaker 7: from all of that.
Speaker 2: I don't know how we benefit from that, to be honest,
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, I think the cartels benefit from
Speaker 2: all of that. I don't think the cartels are paying
Speaker 2: any corporate income taxes to the US. I know this
Speaker 2: that every year some you know, you're talking about seventy
Speaker 2: thousand young people die every year or or people die
Speaker 2: of fentanyl. And I've I've interviewed parents of kids who died,
Speaker 2: you know, at the age of twenty or twenty one
Speaker 2: of a fentl over. They didn't even know what they
Speaker 2: interject what they had.
Speaker 7: All the drug and all this drugs, the drugs that
Speaker 7: are coming over it. It's been going on for years
Speaker 7: and years and years, and it's never going to be stopped.
Speaker 2: How yes, it was, well, you know, you're not going
Speaker 2: to be stopped, but it's but it's coming over from
Speaker 2: China and it's being manufactured in Mexico. And I'm ready
Speaker 2: to say, let's let's declare the cartel's terrorist organizations. Tell
Speaker 2: tell Mexico we're coming in and get the hell out
Speaker 2: of the way, and and we wipe them out. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's as simple as that thing.
Speaker 7: I think that's right. But but you know what, we're
Speaker 7: not able to do that because I don't think that
Speaker 7: the United States wants to do that. I really don't.
Speaker 2: Well, let's leave it like that, Paul. Okay, I have
Speaker 2: my opinion, you have yours. We'll see. Thank you much, Paul,
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Okay. I don't see how where the
Speaker 2: government is benefiting from any of this. Rick and Dover
Speaker 2: Rick next on Nightsig go right ahead, Hi Dan, Hi, Rick,
Speaker 2: thanks for calling in.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, thank you. I guess I'm one of them
Speaker 8: what people or whatever.
Speaker 2: But that's fine. Tell me why tell me why?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 8: I have to at this point, I have to actually
Speaker 8: agree with what Trump's doing. I think if they're hearing legally,
Speaker 8: no matter if they're my own or not, that just
Speaker 8: screwed everybody that got in line legally.
Speaker 2: Couldn't agree with you more that if you're left dumb,
Speaker 2: left Rick, because we an agreement on that, that's for sure.
Speaker 8: You know, I think that's the way to go. You
Speaker 8: cross the mortar illegally, you're illegal. Let's it get rid
Speaker 8: of everybody, and uh, let the people that come here
Speaker 8: legally pick the fruits and vegetables, you know, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 8: and you.
Speaker 2: Could have you could have a program there where people
Speaker 2: come in on a temporary visa every summer, every winter
Speaker 2: or whatever. The growing season is and give them credit
Speaker 2: for coming in legally. On them, I would either put
Speaker 2: an ankle water on But if they come in and
Speaker 2: they and they stay legally, and then they leave legally
Speaker 2: after a certain period of time, put them on a
Speaker 2: path of citizenship because they've proven that they're willing to
Speaker 2: come in here and and and obey the law.
Speaker 8: I'm just wondering, most of these people walk here, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: So why can't they just open the gate in Texas
Speaker 8: and push the people through and shut the gate. Why
Speaker 8: are we spending money on jet fuel?
Speaker 2: Well, the problem is I think I think that that
Speaker 2: they want us get him back to Colombia, and they
Speaker 2: want to get him back to places where it'll be
Speaker 2: a little bit difficult for them to walk back walk back.
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I think they're flying a
Speaker 2: lot of these military well a lot of the military
Speaker 2: planes have to be in the air certain number of
Speaker 2: hours every month. Pilots need to have training, So there's
Speaker 2: there's a benefit that you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: military planes that are out flying around empty. So I mean,
Speaker 2: if we can put one hundred bad people on a
Speaker 2: plane to get rid of them, I'm all for.
Speaker 8: That he it costs like eight hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 8: dollars to fuel a poet of those planes.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that it is that much. I
Speaker 2: don't know it's that much. And the reason I say
Speaker 2: I don't know it's that much is I know that
Speaker 2: on a on a plane going from wherever to wherever.
Speaker 2: I don't think the airlines are paying eight hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars in charging two hundred dollars for air
Speaker 2: flights from Boston to No.
Speaker 8: No, no, not almost smaller planes, And I do Ice
Speaker 8: does have smaller planes, but they they're taking like B
Speaker 8: fifty two's or transport planes are huge.
Speaker 2: They see one thirties, they see one thirties.
Speaker 8: Yeah, like you know, you can probably fit one hundred
Speaker 8: volkswagons in there, and they're putting one hundred people that.
Speaker 2: Well, you wouldn't put one hundred volkswagons in a see
Speaker 2: one thirty and they might the other ones.
Speaker 7: Live.
Speaker 8: I think, you know, like I said, Uh, I think
Speaker 8: he's going a good job in the immigration. I think
Speaker 8: it's fine.
Speaker 2: All right, Well you give your your a liberal self
Speaker 2: described left liberal or whatever, and uh give them criticize
Speaker 2: it for the things you disagree with and give them
Speaker 2: credit for the things you agree with. That's an open
Speaker 2: minded person. I appreciate you call.
Speaker 8: Rick, Yeah, thank you the show.
Speaker 2: This your first time calling me, no.
Speaker 8: No call every once in a while.
Speaker 2: Well, all off, and I enjoyed the conversation. Thanks much,
Speaker 2: Legget Warren, And you want I do not do not
Speaker 2: want you to have to wait through the newscast.
Speaker 6: Go right ahead, Warren, Hey, buddy.
Speaker 9: Yeah, as for calling you naming the cartels, terrorists organizations,
Speaker 9: Trump has already done that.
Speaker 2: I know that.
Speaker 6: So yeah, he did that. Uh, you know, you know,
Speaker 6: presidential order or whatever.
Speaker 2: No, I agree with you, And now I think it's
Speaker 2: in Mexico. These people are clear in present danger. They're
Speaker 2: poisoning our kids with fentanyl. They're poisoning people in America
Speaker 2: with fentanyl. If you don't want to take them out,
Speaker 2: just get out of our way and we're going to
Speaker 2: take him out.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 9: And a couple of days ago, there was a a
Speaker 9: reporter that did a ride along with.
Speaker 6: Ice in Boston and there was a netf What happened was.
Speaker 2: They they they did a favor to a new work newscast,
Speaker 2: a network which is very supportive of Ice, which is fine, okay, but.
Speaker 6: I understand that. I understand that.
Speaker 9: But my point is the people that they were getting
Speaker 9: rid of. One person had eighteen convictions, and so they
Speaker 9: are getting I saw, I.
Speaker 2: Saw that report to war, and I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people saw. What I'm saying is I think at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, it would be like if
Speaker 2: the Red Sox said, look, the only people, the only
Speaker 2: media that's going to be able to cover the Red
Speaker 2: Sox games will be Nessing. So everybody else has to
Speaker 2: stay outside of the ballpark and you have to rely
Speaker 2: on Nessing. That's crazy.
Speaker 9: And I agree with you, and I agree with you
Speaker 9: that they should be releasing the names and off that
Speaker 9: and the more.
Speaker 2: The more secretive they make it the most. Yeah, the more. Look,
Speaker 2: transparency actually is a good thing. Transparency is a really
Speaker 2: good thing.
Speaker 9: And actually put the defense but once because is it
Speaker 9: you've got it in the narrative.
Speaker 7: Narrative yep, thanks man, all right, thank you, all right.
Speaker 2: To the callers on the line, you haven't waited that long,
Speaker 2: John and Elvis, I'll get to you right after the eleven.
Speaker 2: If you're not in the line. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty or six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: I say, give us the information you said you would
Speaker 2: be transparent, Be as transparent as possible. It is only
Speaker 2: in your interest and to the and the interest of
Speaker 2: the American people to know what's going on.