Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
Speaker 1: on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,
Speaker 1: my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
Speaker 1: really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
Speaker 1: the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
Speaker 1: the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
Speaker 1: saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what
Speaker 1: are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling
Speaker 1: around out here. Did you see what it was or
Speaker 1: was it was? Standing enough. I'm out here looking through
Speaker 1: the window now and I don't see anything. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go outside. Jesus Quice, you better hello, get
Speaker 1: somebody out here. Quin, I'm out there. I thought of
Speaker 1: a bitch of about taking fort nine. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Easy him out there. Yeah, I'm walking right.
Speaker 2: Ay, all right, I'm going to welcome my guest to
Speaker 2: the show. It is Tim from North Carolina. Welcome to
Speaker 2: the show, sir, Thank you, sir. I had been looking
Speaker 2: forward to this conversation. I got to come up a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago and go out with you guys
Speaker 2: over in the South Mountains. We had a fantastic day
Speaker 2: out in the woods. I've talked about that a little
Speaker 2: bit on the show. I've used some of Jerry's storytelling
Speaker 2: abilities on the show, and people are really enjoying those episodes.
Speaker 2: But you're here to talk about your own personal experiences,
Speaker 2: So let's get into that first and foremost. Let me
Speaker 2: ask you this, What in the world got you interested
Speaker 2: in the subject of bigfoot sasquatch to begin with?
Speaker 3: Actually, it was having an encounter with one. This guy
Speaker 3: moved in up above me. His name was news from
Speaker 3: Corbett and had become my best friend. Brush country folks.
Speaker 3: Leading back, I was outside cleaning the deer and hate
Speaker 3: moved in and talking nine million miles a minute. My
Speaker 3: name is Dave was Corbett. I just moved down the
Speaker 3: house up here boating, and I see you like hunting
Speaker 3: fish and I see in about two weeks and I'm
Speaker 3: trying not to cut myself and everything. And he jumps
Speaker 3: ins trucks and takes off, and my wife said, who
Speaker 3: in the world was at I said, I got His
Speaker 3: name was Noose from Corbett. They just bloaded in up
Speaker 3: above us. He likes to hunt and fish and he'll
Speaker 3: see me in about two weeks and I'll probably never
Speaker 3: seen him again. But sure enough, in about two weeks
Speaker 3: he showed up. We became great friends. His wife's family
Speaker 3: has some property, not the property that they was living on,
Speaker 3: but some more property that they would come up from
Speaker 3: Florida maybe once a year twice that the most a
Speaker 3: little cabin on eighty six acres. They would come up
Speaker 3: spend a weekend. And he said, since I've moved up here,
Speaker 3: let's make that us a place to hunt. And I said, man,
Speaker 3: that sounds great. So we started going in and putting
Speaker 3: up deer feeders and cameras and stuff like cat They'd
Speaker 3: already had some cameras up in one feeder, but we
Speaker 3: put in a lot more. One day was up our
Speaker 3: work and he said, we've got to get even with
Speaker 3: my boys. I said, okay, what's going on. They had
Speaker 3: taken us set of Vallad deer horns out of the
Speaker 3: cabin and took it and stuck it in front of
Speaker 3: his trail camera. Now this was back when there's the
Speaker 3: thirty five millimeter. They wasn't even digital yet. He said
Speaker 3: that he had got those pictures and his and Walmart
Speaker 3: and God Will developed in the first one he looked
Speaker 3: at was that set of fallider on. So Hey freaked out,
Speaker 3: telling his wife, get you junk, we got to go
Speaker 3: so long story short, his wife finally got him to
Speaker 3: look at more pictures and there was this boys and
Speaker 3: their friends holding up those deer horns in front of
Speaker 3: his trail captain. He said, so we've got to get
Speaker 3: engling with him. And I said, I'll tell you what
Speaker 3: we'll do. My dad and one of his best friends
Speaker 3: found some tracks up here in the county we lived in,
Speaker 3: and there was about eighteen inches long back in the seventies.
Speaker 3: I said, trouble, I'll make us some big set of
Speaker 3: tracks and we'll go stalm from through the mud and
Speaker 3: stuff and make them think there's a big foot up here.
Speaker 3: And he said, oh, so I did. I made a
Speaker 3: set of tracks, stuck them and trembling, ronded the toes
Speaker 3: and made them look real good, attached from to the
Speaker 3: bottom machine. Here. Boys, they was in their twenties and thirties.
Speaker 3: They have a band that they was in. They were
Speaker 3: playing here locally, so they was up all night sleeping late,
Speaker 3: and we snuck up our made from fake tracks and
Speaker 3: broke some limbs and all that kind of stuff. Snuck
Speaker 3: back out, and he said, they're gonna call me after
Speaker 3: they wake up and I'll come up here and we'll
Speaker 3: shoot some guns and stuff. And I told him, I said,
Speaker 3: I can't be with you because I'll get the life
Speaker 3: in too much. So he went back and they walked
Speaker 3: out by the tracks. Didn't even see it. He told them,
Speaker 3: you's got me on the deer horns, and they ain't
Speaker 3: getting me on this. They said, what he said, this
Speaker 3: big track right here. When they seen the track that
Speaker 3: we'd made, they freaked out, there's a big foot up here,
Speaker 3: just on their trapper. If we can get pictures of
Speaker 3: this thing, we'll make millions of dollars. I can't believe
Speaker 3: we got a bigfoot. They took it hook line and
Speaker 3: Sinker had to play a gig that night, and they
Speaker 3: told their dad, said, we're canceling. We're going to go
Speaker 3: buy trail cameras. We'pend every bit of money we got
Speaker 3: on trail cameras and put them in the woods get
Speaker 3: pictures of this thing. Their dad told them said, no
Speaker 3: on that. You've donet and give the man your word
Speaker 3: that you're going to be there. You're going to be there.
Speaker 3: So when they went to do their gig and their
Speaker 3: dad went with them. I snuck back up and got
Speaker 3: my shoes and done some more stuff. I turned chairs over,
Speaker 3: throw clothes around outside and all that stuff. And they
Speaker 3: come in at two thirds in the morning and seen
Speaker 3: worry I'd been up there, and they called the dad,
Speaker 3: Bigfoot's been back, and he said, in your face. So
Speaker 3: that's how I got started in it. But the bad
Speaker 3: thing was not long after that we started having encounters.
Speaker 3: We was up there to kill a wild holl that
Speaker 3: was coming in and rooting his yard up, and we
Speaker 3: got up in the attic of the house. Three raccoons
Speaker 3: come out in the yard, stayed for probably ten twelve minutes,
Speaker 3: and then they turned around to run back into the bush,
Speaker 3: and something grabbed one of them and it roared. It
Speaker 3: wasn't a bear. I knew that. I didn't know what
Speaker 3: it was because of the sound that it made, and
Speaker 3: everything went dead quiet. The coon quit squawlling. It had
Speaker 3: killed the coon. Then in just a few minutes it
Speaker 3: started whistling, and wor's that and there with the window open,
Speaker 3: thinking that hog was going to come out, but instead
Speaker 3: it was the big foot grabbing the coon. When it roared.
Speaker 3: I told my buddy, I said, I don't know what
Speaker 3: that is. I said, that's not a bear. Bears don't
Speaker 3: make that sound. It's not a dog. That wasn't a
Speaker 3: dog bark. I've never heard that sound before in my life.
Speaker 3: So we sat there and then it started whistling, and
Speaker 3: I said, I definitely don't know. Number one what made
Speaker 3: the sound. Number two jumped on the full sized raccoon,
Speaker 3: killed it within three four seconds, and then can whistle.
Speaker 3: None of this is making sense. We set there and
Speaker 3: listened to it for probably five ten minutes, just whistling,
Speaker 3: and that would whistle about every fifteen twenty seconds. We
Speaker 3: turned the light on to come down out of the house.
Speaker 3: We was going to leave because we didn't know what
Speaker 3: it was. We knew the hog what in coming out,
Speaker 3: and as soon as we turned that light on, the
Speaker 3: whistling stock and that was the first run in with
Speaker 3: one of them that I had. After that, the more
Speaker 3: that we was on the property where nobody had been
Speaker 3: on it much, the more we was on there, the
Speaker 3: more encounters we was having, having sticks throwed at us,
Speaker 3: having rocks throwed at us. Then when we tried to
Speaker 3: tell people what was going on that oh yeah, big Foot,
Speaker 3: because we'd played the oak on them earlier, so we
Speaker 3: couldn't get nobody to believe us that went on. That
Speaker 3: was in two thousand and eight. Every time we was
Speaker 3: up there, they would do something, whether it was screaming, yelling,
Speaker 3: throwing rock, putting brush in our trails, going up to
Speaker 3: our deer stands, messing with the feeders, taking the corner
Speaker 3: out of the feeders. All of that stuff is just
Speaker 3: grew from there. Once he passed away, I no longer
Speaker 3: had the land that I could go on there. But
Speaker 3: luckily for me, I have run in to them and
Speaker 3: other places have got some good research areas. And actually
Speaker 3: just right across the ridge from their property was Pup
Speaker 3: Game Lens. That is where I saw my first one
Speaker 3: being Dwight Campbell was up there walking in and DWIGHTE.
Speaker 3: Campbell and while Trent had at the time it was
Speaker 3: called Dirty South squatching. Now it's called Sashquatrecon and I'm
Speaker 3: part of that group as well as the NCI group.
Speaker 3: But they was the one that got me to do
Speaker 3: in research when Newson was alive. When we found stuff,
Speaker 3: I would bring it home, show them wife and kids, grandkids,
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff and then just delete it. But
Speaker 3: they was the ones that got me to do an
Speaker 3: audio research in recordings, actually documenting stuff. Many Dwight was
Speaker 3: walking downto one of our areas. We've gone round the
Speaker 3: road and at the time we had two dogs and
Speaker 3: their name was Fendi and Gaudy, and they come and
Speaker 3: got under our feet and when they did that, we
Speaker 3: knew that something was around. And we're standing there talking
Speaker 3: about it and we can smell it, and the clear
Speaker 3: cut up above me, I see it moved just a
Speaker 3: little bit, just enough for me to notice it. We
Speaker 3: keep standing there talking about smelling it. We had been
Speaker 3: standing there probably close to ten minutes talking about it,
Speaker 3: and it moved again, and I told White, I said,
Speaker 3: there's up then moving in the clear cut. It's just thick.
Speaker 3: I can't see. But there was no birds that was
Speaker 3: one of those. Were no birds making sounds, no quirls
Speaker 3: running around, nothing, and that movement was just out of
Speaker 3: place because nothing else was going on. And he took
Speaker 3: his camera zoomed in and we actually got a picture
Speaker 3: of it behind a big burn of dirt, watching us
Speaker 3: go around the road, and it followed us a mile
Speaker 3: and a halfe in to a research area and back
Speaker 3: out almost to the truck. It followed us within fifty
Speaker 3: yards of our vehicle. That was the first one that
Speaker 3: I ever put eyes on. Since then, I have seen
Speaker 3: four more. The closest one would actually be the very
Speaker 3: next one I saw. The second one I saw, I
Speaker 3: was in another part of the woods here in the county.
Speaker 3: I lived in Macon County in North Carolina. I went
Speaker 3: to another place that I liked to bowl, and I
Speaker 3: was walking up the ridge and bow hunting, going to
Speaker 3: go up to the top ridge and say it where
Speaker 3: it's flat. I was walking up through there. One of
Speaker 3: them come out from behind a big oak tree within
Speaker 3: I'd said it had to be within twenty feet of me.
Speaker 3: It took five big steps and turned around and looked
Speaker 3: at me over its shoulder. And it didn't turn its body.
Speaker 3: It just looked over its shoulder at men and my brain.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, my brain's trying to process what am I
Speaker 3: looking at, because here's something walking out seven and seven
Speaker 3: high feet tall on two legs, long arms, broad shoulders.
Speaker 3: It took those five steps the best I can remember,
Speaker 3: because I only took a quick look at its face,
Speaker 3: when it turned to look at me, and then I
Speaker 3: started looking to see if there was another one, because
Speaker 3: I didn't know if I was going to have to
Speaker 3: try to defend myself or walk not having a firearm
Speaker 3: on me only having my crossbow. That if I was
Speaker 3: more than one of them, I was in trouble. It
Speaker 3: took those five steps, turned and looked at me, and
Speaker 3: then it dropped down to all fours. I have never
Speaker 3: in my life seen anything move as fast as what
Speaker 3: that thing did. It takes all I turned back around
Speaker 3: to look again to make sure nothing else is coming out,
Speaker 3: and I can't find it. It got gone that quick.
Speaker 3: The best I remember, it had the paddy looking face,
Speaker 3: just like on the pattershing Dimlin fim. What I remember
Speaker 3: the most about it was the way it looked so
Speaker 3: funny running on all the four because its hons was
Speaker 3: so much longer than its back legs. It was actually
Speaker 3: jacked up in the front, or like a hyena looks
Speaker 3: longer legs in the front than the back end. I
Speaker 3: stood there for probably ten or fifteen minutes just trying
Speaker 3: to figure out where it went. I never saw it
Speaker 3: no more. I can't say that it disappeared because he
Speaker 3: could have got across the open woods where I was
Speaker 3: at in just a few seconds. So I ain't going
Speaker 3: to say that it turned into his bore or close
Speaker 3: or done nothing like that. I just don't know what
Speaker 3: happened to it. He just got gone that area. I've
Speaker 3: had quite a few encounters in there. That's actually one
Speaker 3: of the areas I'm getting ready to just more investigate
Speaker 3: and then this year, because it seems like the last
Speaker 3: few times i've been in there deer hunting, turkey hunting
Speaker 3: and stuff, I've had run ins with them. So I'm
Speaker 3: going to start like that. One of my main priorities.
Speaker 3: Another one that I saw, me and Dwight Campbell was
Speaker 3: in Cage's Cove. We was going around the loop on
Speaker 3: Cage Cove and they told me, said there was one
Speaker 3: just went behind I blowed over tree. I had my
Speaker 3: thermal binoculars. This was during the daytime. My binoculars will
Speaker 3: detect takee signatures out the eighteen hundred yard The rangefinder
Speaker 3: on my binocular said that the tree was around five
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety five yards somewhere around and there. You
Speaker 3: could see this thing's shoulder come out every once in
Speaker 3: a while and that once a while you'd see it's
Speaker 3: on move. One time it peeked out and we're sitting
Speaker 3: there and cars are going by. This woman pulls off.
Speaker 3: My truck had bigfoot stuff all over it. She walked
Speaker 3: up and she said, or you're looking for those creatures
Speaker 3: in here? And I said, yes, ma'am, we're actually watching
Speaker 3: one right now, and she jumped in her car and
Speaker 3: took off. That was the third one that I saw.
Speaker 3: The fourth one I got another real good look at
Speaker 3: because it was in one of my research areas. It
Speaker 3: was on December the first of two thousand and twenty two.
Speaker 3: I'd come out of my research area changing my audio
Speaker 3: over cords out and my trail cameras and all that stuff,
Speaker 3: and it's deer season, so I thought, I'll just go
Speaker 3: back around the road where I walked in and find
Speaker 3: me a place to hunt. So I walked around road
Speaker 3: and found me some deer signed and sat down. And
Speaker 3: I've been sitting there by the iron and I felt
Speaker 3: like something was watching.
Speaker 2: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see We'll
Speaker 2: be right back.
Speaker 3: After these messages. I looked over my shoulder and up
Speaker 3: on little old knob behind me about one hundred yards.
Speaker 3: There's a little creature standing there and I can see everything,
Speaker 3: but it's right show. I can see from its right shoulder,
Speaker 3: its head, it's left shoulder, its body, both legs, everything.
Speaker 3: I just couldn't see that right arm and right show.
Speaker 3: I start watching it and it just says theirn looks
Speaker 3: at me. I just sit there and look at it,
Speaker 3: and then by brain clicks and I think I need
Speaker 3: to try to get a picture of it whatever I can.
Speaker 3: So I grabbed my phone, and I had just gotten
Speaker 3: a knife phone and stood the old flip phone. I
Speaker 3: can't get it to sue men like I want. I
Speaker 3: was wanting to get a close up look at its face.
Speaker 3: So I laid my phone down and I'm watching it
Speaker 3: over my shoulder, and as soon as I put my
Speaker 3: hand on my gun, I wasn't going to shoot it,
Speaker 3: but I just wanted to look for the stop on
Speaker 3: my rifle to get a better look at it. And
Speaker 3: as soon as I put my hand on my gun,
Speaker 3: it stepped back behind the trees and all I could
Speaker 3: see was its left show. I stood there was looking
Speaker 3: through my rifle and everything, and I thought, I don't
Speaker 3: want it to think I'm going to hurt it. So
Speaker 3: I laid my gun back down and just started watching it,
Speaker 3: and it would not leave. So I thought, I'm just
Speaker 3: after I'm not paying it any attention, and I turned
Speaker 3: my head and was watching it down in my peripheral
Speaker 3: and I could see it moving. It went from standing
Speaker 3: up down to all fours and started crawling like an
Speaker 3: army crawl, and crawled from one clunk of trees to
Speaker 3: another one, and then it started back across the ridge,
Speaker 3: crawling on all the fours. And when it done that,
Speaker 3: I turned around and started watching it. It crawled back
Speaker 3: over in to where my research area was at. That
Speaker 3: was the fourth one that assault. Then this year we
Speaker 3: were part of the South Carolina Bigfoot Festival, which me
Speaker 3: and you do a lot of festivals together, even though
Speaker 3: we don't get time to taller. But we had left
Speaker 3: that festival on Saturday night. We was going to go
Speaker 3: squatching at a place where we got bluff chart. We
Speaker 3: left all of our stuff with the health because we
Speaker 3: was going to have to come home and get our
Speaker 3: thermals and their guns and all of that stuff because
Speaker 3: we didn't want to have that at the festival. So
Speaker 3: we had stopped and got Saturday, and after we'd rested
Speaker 3: a little bit, everybody said, I'm taller. We may not
Speaker 3: come back out, and I told him, I said, if
Speaker 3: you want me to, I can take hip and show
Speaker 3: you where we got bluff charge staff because it's on
Speaker 3: the way home and it's only eighty five ninety yards
Speaker 3: from the truck. I said, it won't take us long
Speaker 3: to walk out there. They said, yeah, that'll be good.
Speaker 3: So luckily we did have flashlights in the truck. We
Speaker 3: got up there, my buddy Robert Deffler was talking to
Speaker 3: his wife, had been talking her a while because she
Speaker 3: was having trouble with one on their farm that they
Speaker 3: called Gina. So I handed him a flashlight and told him,
Speaker 3: I said, whenever you get through talking, just come around
Speaker 3: the road. You'll say our lights because we're not going
Speaker 3: that far. As soon as me and Brian Sawyer his
Speaker 3: girlfriend Laura. As soon as we stepped out of the
Speaker 3: truck and shut the door, we had to yell over
Speaker 3: to our left. I told Brian I said, I'm glad
Speaker 3: something mates noise, because I was afraid we'd come up
Speaker 3: here and you didn't just think I didn't know what
Speaker 3: I was talking about. I just taking somebody to a spot.
Speaker 3: And then you don't see nothing, don't hear nothing, I said,
Speaker 3: at least we got to yell out of them. We
Speaker 3: went ahead and got her shoes on it because I
Speaker 3: had t shoes on, putting my squatching boots home, got
Speaker 3: her flashlights and everything. We started using around the road.
Speaker 3: Then it yelled again. That was again on our left
Speaker 3: hand side. We got behind the gate, walked maybe ten
Speaker 3: yards behind the gate, and there's a tree that's been
Speaker 3: laid across the road and on both ends of it
Speaker 3: it's had stuff woven into it, so it didn't follow
Speaker 3: their naturally. So we looked at that and documented it
Speaker 3: stepped across that. No more got across it. Then we
Speaker 3: heard a yell on their right hand side. So now
Speaker 3: we've got them on our right in or left, and
Speaker 3: we just keep using it because we're almost out tofore
Speaker 3: we had the bluff charge. We get out there and
Speaker 3: I'm showing them where it was at a tree that
Speaker 3: you could see where five fingers went around us pine
Speaker 3: tree and just rip the bark and stuff off of it.
Speaker 3: I got to show them that and some tree brakes
Speaker 3: and all that stuff. Them were found about a fourteen
Speaker 3: poort and half inch track and we're just looking at
Speaker 3: that stuff, not really expecting anything much other than the yells.
Speaker 3: We see Roberts light of coming around the road and
Speaker 3: I hollered at him. I said, come on around the road.
Speaker 3: We're gonna walk just a little bit further and then
Speaker 3: we'll turn around to come back. And he said, y'all
Speaker 3: might not want to do that. We ain't got nothing
Speaker 3: for him, with like, ain't got nothing for what. We
Speaker 3: come back out into the road and him loft the
Speaker 3: old logging road and we told him was going to
Speaker 3: go around the road, and he said we better not
Speaker 3: do that. We ain't got nothing for him, and we said,
Speaker 3: ain't got nothing for what. And as he was coming
Speaker 3: around where we heard yell, on the right hand side,
Speaker 3: there was a heel right there, and then a little
Speaker 3: old road cuts back in it. When he come to
Speaker 3: where that road was at, something caused his attention, and
Speaker 3: they swirled around and said he saw about a six
Speaker 3: six and eye high foot dog men with blue glowing eyes.
Speaker 3: Every dently it was coming in to get in behind us.
Speaker 3: Didn't know Robert was there. And then Robert come from
Speaker 3: around behind that hill and they all the loft, running
Speaker 3: into each other head on, and it took off back
Speaker 3: down the mountain. So we said we ain't got nothing
Speaker 3: for that for sure. So we started walking back out
Speaker 3: to the truck and I look at the hill above
Speaker 3: the truck and there's two glowing eyes. Now I've never
Speaker 3: seen the glowing eyes before. I saw these dog lights
Speaker 3: on them. Know nothing, They're just two big eyes. I
Speaker 3: would say they was sixty yards away from us when
Speaker 3: I see the holler and tell the guys that I've
Speaker 3: got glowing eyes in front of us, and Ryan says
Speaker 3: they're shutting coming. The one that was on the left
Speaker 3: is now coming in behind us. We don't know where
Speaker 3: the dog man went. We thought we'd better raise back
Speaker 3: in this truck. But I'm standing there looking at them eyes.
Speaker 3: I ain't wanting to leave because I finally got to
Speaker 3: see some blow and eyes. Every time I put my
Speaker 3: head lamp on it hid it in the eyes, it
Speaker 3: would either turn its head or close its eyes. I
Speaker 3: honestly believe it was turning its head because you could see,
Speaker 3: like when you're looking, you can see the start of
Speaker 3: the eyes, the orange. Then it's turned its head and
Speaker 3: then there's both eyes. We stood there for just a
Speaker 3: few minutes doing that. Behind the truck. One starts trying
Speaker 3: to say, I'm like a hoodah. So we've got the
Speaker 3: one in front of us on the right, the one
Speaker 3: coming in behind us. We don't know where the dog
Speaker 3: man is, and now we've got one behind the truck.
Speaker 3: So we finally get back to the truck. On my truck,
Speaker 3: I've got all kind of dog lights and bright lights
Speaker 3: and all that, and I was going to try to
Speaker 3: get it and hit the one up on the hill
Speaker 3: that had the eye shine. So I get back to
Speaker 3: my truck a little bit ahead of them because I
Speaker 3: told them watch if it takes off of whatever, then
Speaker 3: we'll know. But they were back behindly. The woman behind
Speaker 3: the truck keeps a hollering, so I'll get to messing
Speaker 3: with it, hollering like an owl. It was coming closer,
Speaker 3: and I finally didn't their lot, so I knew where
Speaker 3: it was at it it finally got to where it
Speaker 3: could see what was going off. It had come off
Speaker 3: the ridge and finally got to where it could see
Speaker 3: my truck. When it got to where it could see
Speaker 3: my truck, it was hollering at me. But as soon
Speaker 3: as it seemed to other guys coming around the road,
Speaker 3: so by then they wasn't going to hang out with
Speaker 3: the dog man anymore and they was coming kill me.
Speaker 3: It shut up, so we got in the truck and
Speaker 3: drove down the road about three four hundred George and
Speaker 3: pulled off. We was just going set the and listen
Speaker 3: see if we could hear anything back up where the
Speaker 3: truck was at. They started barking like dogs. It was
Speaker 3: the weirdest thing, one of the weirdest things I've had.
Speaker 3: There was two of them, and one of them would
Speaker 3: do a high pitch bar and the other one would
Speaker 3: do a load pitch, and the load pitch it would
Speaker 3: bark twice. It sounded close to a doll, but then
Speaker 3: on the third one you could tell it wasn't because
Speaker 3: he'd go oh like that, and the high pitched one
Speaker 3: done pretty good. But we could tell that the sound
Speaker 3: of coming right from where we just left, because there's
Speaker 3: no houses around there, no word that a dog would
Speaker 3: have been up where we just left. So Robert gets
Speaker 3: out and we're talking about how they're doing that, and
Speaker 3: he gets out and does a whoop and they shut up.
Speaker 3: So that was the life one I saw was the
Speaker 3: one with the eyes of shining. But we've had all
Speaker 3: kinds of encounters. I've had rocks throwed at me. I've
Speaker 3: heard them talk. They do have a language. I've heard
Speaker 3: that two times. My budget property before heat passed away,
Speaker 3: me and him was in their deer hunting in the
Speaker 3: same week. On a Tuesday and a Thursday of the
Speaker 3: same week. I heard them setting in, two of them
Speaker 3: talking back and forth to each other. It's just been
Speaker 3: a roller coaster. Just to be honest with you, it's
Speaker 3: one of those things. I think when you encountered these creatures,
Speaker 3: usually one or two things happen. You either don't want
Speaker 3: nothing to do with them, or you want to learn more.
Speaker 3: I've been doing this since two thousand and they it
Speaker 3: honestly seems like I have more questions now than I
Speaker 3: did one we storting. It's just a never ending thing.
Speaker 3: I've heard people say that they attached to you. I
Speaker 3: don't know if that's true or not, but I do
Speaker 3: know that every one of my areas that I used
Speaker 3: to hunt in they now have bigfoots in they wasn't
Speaker 3: there before. I've never saw the structures or got yelled
Speaker 3: dad or screened that. But that's how I got into it.
Speaker 3: Like I said, it has just been a roller coaster ride,
Speaker 3: to be honest, because you go out and you don't
Speaker 3: see nothing. You don't see nothing, you don't hear nothing,
Speaker 3: and then when you're about to give up, one will
Speaker 3: yell or show itself or whatever, and you get that
Speaker 3: sparked again and you can't give up. It's like golf.
Speaker 3: It definitely sounds like it's been a roller coaster.
Speaker 2: I want to go back to a couple of things,
Speaker 2: I guess before I go back to the very beginning
Speaker 2: and ask some questions about that.
Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit about the bluff charge that
Speaker 3: brought you.
Speaker 2: Guys back to that area when you took Brian and
Speaker 2: everybody out there after the South Carolina Bigfoot Festival.
Speaker 3: Can you talk a little bit.
Speaker 2: About what happened here in the situation where you had
Speaker 2: the bluff charge?
Speaker 3: Oh yes, sir, I'm sorry I should have done that.
Speaker 3: We was in a place here, it's called Scaly Mountain,
Speaker 3: and me and my dad that went in there to
Speaker 3: fix him a place to un he's real bad dia bed.
Speaker 3: It couldn't get around good, so we found a little
Speaker 3: old flat logging road to go around, and we went
Speaker 3: in and made him a place to set it. When
Speaker 3: we come back out and started to get into the
Speaker 3: main logging road. Now these are shut off with far
Speaker 3: service gates, grass rolled up on them. They're not in
Speaker 3: there logging or nothing. But when we come and got
Speaker 3: almost out to the main road, we looked up and
Speaker 3: there's a pine tree about the big around as a
Speaker 3: telephone pole, and you could see where one finger had
Speaker 3: drafted around one side and the other four fingers had
Speaker 3: dropped around the other side, and it had just pulled
Speaker 3: the bark and it was a white pine and it
Speaker 3: had just peeled everything back, and it done that while
Speaker 3: me and my dad was around the road. It wasn't
Speaker 3: they're when we went in. So I was going to
Speaker 3: take Dwight Campbell and Robbing Moonshadow down there and showed
Speaker 3: them on where the handprint was on the tree. We
Speaker 3: got down there and pulled up to the gate ported
Speaker 3: and got out and started a round through there. We
Speaker 3: heard if I had mistaken it was a knoll off
Speaker 3: to our left, and that it was actually worth the
Speaker 3: same spot where Rob the dog Man when we was there,
Speaker 3: but anywhere on the right hand side. We heard the knock,
Speaker 3: and we dropped off down in there and looked at
Speaker 3: some structures and all that stuff. Come back up into
Speaker 3: the main road and just had started to get on
Speaker 3: the logging road to go out to where that tree
Speaker 3: was where my dad was going to hunt. Up on
Speaker 3: the ridge above us, we hear something stark screening. I've
Speaker 3: heard quite a few vocalizations, but I've never heard it
Speaker 3: do that kind of vocalization. Hit what the normal whoop?
Speaker 3: You could tell that it was irritated. I'll just put
Speaker 3: it that way. It comes down state out of side
Speaker 3: the wall. We couldn't see it, but we could hear it,
Speaker 3: and it come off the ridge above us, come down
Speaker 3: and got between us and the vehicle, and it started
Speaker 3: vocalizations so loud, your whole bodies vibrating. That is, honestly,
Speaker 3: out of all my years of doing this, that's the
Speaker 3: first time I've ever put my hand on my gun.
Speaker 3: Because it was between us and the vehicle. We knew
Speaker 3: not to run. We just stood there because where we're
Speaker 3: going to run to. If we run the other way,
Speaker 3: it's going to be taking us further away from the vehicles.
Speaker 3: And like I said, we know not to run because
Speaker 3: it's like a cat and a mouse. If we played dead,
Speaker 3: then a lot of times they lose interus. So we
Speaker 3: just stood there, every one of them throw the listening.
Speaker 3: Finally it hushed and moved off. We went and found
Speaker 3: them where she had come down the hill, dropped off,
Speaker 3: done in there and then line a sight of from
Speaker 3: where she was at before she started to make the noise.
Speaker 3: We looked from where we was at. We found a
Speaker 3: big nest that had been woven together.
Speaker 2: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after these messages with all kinds
Speaker 3: of I don't know what those flants are called on
Speaker 3: the side of the branch, but they stayed green year
Speaker 3: round about the big round is my teky. But we
Speaker 3: found one of those woven together into the nest, and
Speaker 3: we found some about four inch tracks, and from that
Speaker 3: nest you could save the top of the ridge where
Speaker 3: the sound come from. So we figured it was a
Speaker 3: female and we was about to go in between her
Speaker 3: and the little one. She's seen us and come off
Speaker 3: the ridge and got her little one and then moved off.
Speaker 3: That's the best scenario we could come up with.
Speaker 2: I want to go back to the very beginning how
Speaker 2: this all started. And I would be remiss if I
Speaker 2: didn't ask you this question. It's usually a single question,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to make it a two part question.
Speaker 2: First and foremost, do you regret trying to play the
Speaker 2: hoax on the guys with the footprints? Do you think
Speaker 2: that affected how they responded to you and your friend
Speaker 2: once you actually started having activity. And I guess the
Speaker 2: second part of that question is have you ever regretted
Speaker 2: telling anybody what's happened to you because of the way
Speaker 2: that they've reacted, whether it be a friend or somebody
Speaker 2: that's in your family. So I guess that would be
Speaker 2: the two part question.
Speaker 3: At times I do regret playing the joke on the boys,
Speaker 3: but since their dad has passed away, I was actually
Speaker 3: texting with one of them the other day. We brought
Speaker 3: it up about playing the joke and everything, and they
Speaker 3: believe us. Now. It took a long time, but they
Speaker 3: finally got to where they believed us because some of
Speaker 3: them had in cameras up there. At times I do,
Speaker 3: and at times of doll it would have been a
Speaker 3: lot better because we might have could have got some
Speaker 3: more help if we had instead of me and him
Speaker 3: having to do it on our own. For Salon the
Speaker 3: part about telling anybody. It was one of those things
Speaker 3: that I, honestly, for a long time, had to come
Speaker 3: to grips with myself because growing up here, I thought
Speaker 3: I knew pretty much everything that was going on in
Speaker 3: the woods. I know people are going to say, yeah,
Speaker 3: we hear that all the time I started actually falling
Speaker 3: my dad hunting and fishing. I formed in fishing before
Speaker 3: I could hardly walk, but hunting since I was six
Speaker 3: years old, been fortunate enough to see the black panthers,
Speaker 3: mountain lions, and red wolfs here in the county that
Speaker 3: I live in. So I thought I had a pretty
Speaker 3: good grasp on everything that was supposed to be there.
Speaker 3: For about the first year. Honestly, it got to words.
Speaker 3: I didn't know if I was making myself, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, if my mind was playing tricks on me,
Speaker 3: or if the strains and the stuff that was happening
Speaker 3: was actually happening. I don't usually talk about religion and
Speaker 3: all that stuff, but I am a Christian. It was
Speaker 3: bothering me so bad, I said, Mord, I just need
Speaker 3: to answer. I need to know if I'm putting too
Speaker 3: much into this, and this stuff is not actually happening,
Speaker 3: then I'm bringing it on myself. Then I need to
Speaker 3: know because I need to take a break from it.
Speaker 3: I had an old picture that I'd had for probably
Speaker 3: four years that I thought it was real. Dark when
Speaker 3: the trail cam to it, I thought it was the
Speaker 3: hind end of the deer. And the thought comes to
Speaker 3: my head, take that picture on my computer and lighting
Speaker 3: it up. When I lightened it up, you can see
Speaker 3: a shoulder and a head. It's other shoulder leaning out
Speaker 3: from behind a tree. I thought, Okay, I'm fine with it.
Speaker 3: Know they're real. Now, I know what's going on is
Speaker 3: not me believes in my ever loving mind, know what's
Speaker 3: happening is actually happening. Since then, I've not ready cured
Speaker 3: what other people thought. I don't want to be a
Speaker 3: Jersey even if people make fun of them. My own
Speaker 3: brothers that don't believe. Even though I've seen them, my
Speaker 3: son has seen them, when my daddy's seen them, they
Speaker 3: still don't bleed it. You can believe it if you
Speaker 3: want to or not. Because even though people may make
Speaker 3: fun to do whatever, make fun, call you crazy, whatever,
Speaker 3: that still don't change the fact of what I've seen
Speaker 3: and what I know. So the first part of it
Speaker 3: was finally coming to grips with it that it is real.
Speaker 3: And once other new call fred evidence and saw that picture,
Speaker 3: then it's not bothered me. Since, like I said, I
Speaker 3: don't care what people say. I'm really not trying to
Speaker 3: be a jerk. Why would you let it bother you
Speaker 3: that somebody don't believe you when you know what you know?
Speaker 3: So that's just the way I look at it. If
Speaker 3: people want to believe me, that's find and if they
Speaker 3: don't judge, fine, they're the one that has to deal
Speaker 3: with that. All I've got to do is deal with
Speaker 3: what I know. I am right there with you.
Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about the experiences that you've had.
Speaker 2: I guess based on the experiences that you've had. This
Speaker 2: is something that I've started to ask people recently, because
Speaker 2: you even mentioned it a little while ago that you'd
Speaker 2: never seen signed, you never had any experiences in these
Speaker 2: areas that you're hunting, and now you are and these
Speaker 2: creatures are there. So this is a little bit of
Speaker 2: a deeper question. But based on the experiences you have,
Speaker 2: do you think there's more at play? Here because there
Speaker 2: are people in the community that feel like there may
Speaker 2: be more to these creatures, and that they actually show
Speaker 2: themselves to certain people that can handle it or meet
Speaker 2: certain criteria those kind of things. Do you think your
Speaker 2: experiences have been random or do you think there's something
Speaker 2: that's more deeply connected to the subject and maybe these
Speaker 2: creatures and maybe even your involvement in it.
Speaker 3: If you would have asked me that when all of
Speaker 3: this started, I'd just said, I think it's just random.
Speaker 3: But having places since I've run into these creatures, and
Speaker 3: having places that I've hunted for years and years with
Speaker 3: no sign of them whatsoever, and then all of a
Speaker 3: sudden they show up, I'm starting to lean towards the
Speaker 3: fact that they maybe do follow me, or they know
Speaker 3: that you're not a threat. I honestly believe that they
Speaker 3: don't know when you're a thread or not. Because on
Speaker 3: my buddy's property, after about the first year in the height,
Speaker 3: all the streaming and yelling and all of that stuff quit.
Speaker 3: Then it was just messing with us by putting stuff
Speaker 3: in our trails or throwing rocks and that kinds of
Speaker 3: not trying to hit us, but let us know when
Speaker 3: it was time to go. You've been dear hunting out
Speaker 3: here all day. It's time for you to go, and
Speaker 3: they usually start thirty forty yards out, and then they
Speaker 3: get a little closer and a little closer until you
Speaker 3: got up and lift. I think once they see that
Speaker 3: you're not going to bother them and they accept you,
Speaker 3: that they do show their shelf more readily to you
Speaker 3: because they know that you're not going to balk them.
Speaker 3: I do wish a million times over that when I
Speaker 3: saw the one on the first dead December, that I
Speaker 3: had never picked my gun up, even though I couldn't
Speaker 3: get my phone to work like I wanted it to.
Speaker 3: I wish I'd have just kept looking instead of picking
Speaker 3: my gun up, because I don't want them to think
Speaker 3: that I'm going to hurt them. I think they do
Speaker 3: have a sense of humor. I think some of the
Speaker 3: stuff they do just to aggravate you off. When I
Speaker 3: find stuff in my trails, I always clean it out
Speaker 3: Nine times out of ten. When I come back, something
Speaker 3: else will be done. I think they do it just
Speaker 3: to interact. I'll give you this story if we've got time.
Speaker 3: I was going into one of my research areas I
Speaker 3: hadn't been in there for a few weeks. I started
Speaker 3: noticing all of these laurel bushes broke down across my trail.
Speaker 3: So I'm cleaning it out, moving stuff from documenting it.
Speaker 3: I get up to this one open spot there's brainshits
Speaker 3: broke off about seven minute half, they tigh. So I'll
Speaker 3: get my phone out and document it and break it
Speaker 3: on off and throw it down, and I go wold
Speaker 3: up the old logging road down I'm in. I go
Speaker 3: through this laurel thicket that I've got a trail cut through.
Speaker 3: They had stuck a stick through it sideways that we
Speaker 3: would have hit me across the chest. So I got
Speaker 3: my phone out, documented that and showed that there was
Speaker 3: no way to stick fell through that world it throwed
Speaker 3: it out, come on the other side and sat down.
Speaker 3: There's a rock comes over and lands out in front
Speaker 3: of me, out in the old clear cut again. I
Speaker 3: get my phone out and said, they throw the rock here,
Speaker 3: and it comes from behind me face takest me at
Speaker 3: least the iron I have to walk into. So I'm
Speaker 3: setting there resting and the rock comes down. I go
Speaker 3: on in and change my stuff and I get back
Speaker 3: down to where I broke at limb. All there's two
Speaker 3: fresh limbs landing in the tree that had just been brought.
Speaker 3: You can see the white bark they walked there. Number one,
Speaker 3: I would have removed them. With the white shining like
Speaker 3: it was, there's no way I would have missed it.
Speaker 3: So I took those two, got my phone documented it.
Speaker 3: Throw you out and I had to go in this
Speaker 3: real tight spot. And when I started into it, to
Speaker 3: hear one growl and my hearing's knocked the beast. It growled,
Speaker 3: and I thought, well, you crazy thing. I ain't got
Speaker 3: time to fool you. So I went on through and
Speaker 3: as it come out, it ground again, and again I
Speaker 3: just acted like I didn't hear it. I get ready
Speaker 3: to step across the branch. Here's another limb that would
Speaker 3: have hit me across the bridge of my nose, laid
Speaker 3: up in across the trail. It wasn't there when I
Speaker 3: come to you because I had to move it to
Speaker 3: god across branch. So get my phone out, document that.
Speaker 3: Get back down into the main logging road and headed
Speaker 3: back towards your truck. And there's a locust trade that
Speaker 3: I had to go under. Here's a mapful tree about
Speaker 3: the big round. He's just softball that's been broke over
Speaker 3: the top of the locust tree while I was up
Speaker 3: in there, and they've done all that while I was gone.
Speaker 3: So me, firstly, I think they just locked to mess
Speaker 3: with you. Just let's see what he does with this.
Speaker 3: Let's see what they do with that.
Speaker 2: You mentioned it earlier about it usually does one of
Speaker 2: two things to people. When you have those kind of experiences,
Speaker 2: you run high tail screaming away you don't want anything
Speaker 2: to do with it, or you want to have more
Speaker 2: experience and you want to keep going out and getting
Speaker 2: answers and trying to do the research into what these
Speaker 2: things are and all the questions that we all have.
Speaker 2: I naively used to think that everybody was in this
Speaker 2: for the same thing. Everybody wants answers, everybody wants them
Speaker 2: discovered by science that has evolved. For me, I don't
Speaker 2: think I'm in the same place today that I was, say,
Speaker 2: five or ten years ago in the subject. So let
Speaker 2: me ask you this, what is the motivation for you
Speaker 2: that keeps you going out into the woods looking for
Speaker 2: these things? Is it to have more experiences? Is it
Speaker 2: to document? Is it to get the final proof that
Speaker 2: they're real. What is it for you that drives you
Speaker 2: to keep going out day after day looking for these things?
Speaker 3: To be honest, it's just to get answers. When this
Speaker 3: first started, I told my buddy, I said, I'll kill one,
Speaker 3: and when that's lander dead on the table, then nobody
Speaker 3: can say one thing good or the other. Here's your
Speaker 3: proof positive, of course being in it. Now. I know
Speaker 3: now that the government that would take it and it'd
Speaker 3: be shut up, all that stuff. But then I heard
Speaker 3: them speak those two times, so my thought changed instantly
Speaker 3: right there. If these creatures are smart enough to sit
Speaker 3: and talk back and forth and me listen to them,
Speaker 3: then I don't need to kill one of them prove
Speaker 3: that you're real. So my whole thing is, I really
Speaker 3: don't care about the proof and all of that. I
Speaker 3: would just like to know where they come from. Have
Speaker 3: they always been here that kind of stuff. I would
Speaker 3: like to know how they know what trail cameras are.
Speaker 3: They're intelligence. I'll push this with both of mine now
Speaker 3: of the water. I'll just put it that way. The
Speaker 3: smarter than I've ever thought about being to me, I
Speaker 3: just want to find out those kind of answers we
Speaker 3: have heard metallic sayings. I've actually got them on the
Speaker 3: audio recorders. Is that something that you're doing? Because I've
Speaker 3: heard cowdies start yelping and screaming, the big foot yells
Speaker 3: exactly where the kyle these are? We get to walking
Speaker 3: towards it, we here's something. It sounds like a melt
Speaker 3: pot being beat on with the woods fun Lots of
Speaker 3: the kind of questions I've got. Are you using kyldies
Speaker 3: to hunt with which I've heard a lot of reports
Speaker 3: that they do. What is that metallic sim? And I
Speaker 3: ain't saying they are able to go from dimension to dimension,
Speaker 3: but if they're able to what's that metallic sim? Because
Speaker 3: I've heard it quite a few times, and I've talked
Speaker 3: to a lot of research you shits say they've heard it.
Speaker 3: So that's the kind of questions I have. I honestly
Speaker 3: believe you could have the best video in the world
Speaker 3: and people still won't say that's too clear, There ain't
Speaker 3: no way it's real. Then if you get a worry
Speaker 3: one that's too borry, that ain't real. So you're not
Speaker 3: going to convince the public. Even the government has come
Speaker 3: out and said UFOs is real, some people still say
Speaker 3: they ain't, so you're not going to convent people, so
Speaker 3: I give up on that part. I'd like to try
Speaker 3: to find out learn as much about them as I can.
Speaker 3: How do they walk without leaving footprints? Good example is
Speaker 3: my buddy Bob Trent and Dwit Campabill was down in
Speaker 3: I think it was the South Mountains and there at
Speaker 3: this big old field that's been ploilled up plant for
Speaker 3: the deer and stuff, and they get to walk in
Speaker 3: that field just looking for trash. In the middle of
Speaker 3: the field is one single track. There's no other track.
Speaker 3: It's forty fifty yards on each side to the edge
Speaker 3: of the field, and there's one trum dead center in
Speaker 3: that field. How did they do that? That's the stuff
Speaker 3: that I'm more interested in, more of the proven it.
Speaker 3: If I get proof and we get to share it,
Speaker 3: that would be great. But I'm just looking for Cammon knowledge.
Speaker 3: Where you're from, has your mom and them that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff.
Speaker 2: You mentioned your groups a couple of times. Is there
Speaker 2: anything that you want to tell everybody about before we
Speaker 2: get out of here.
Speaker 3: If you want to check us out, you can check
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Speaker 3: other group that am in is NCI, North Carolina. Investigate.
Speaker 3: You can find that as well on TikTok and YouTube.
Speaker 3: And if you want to check out my stuff, it's
Speaker 3: Tim Dill's thirteen. You can find it on tiktoking, YouTube, Instagram.
Speaker 3: That kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Do you have it, folks, you guys, go check it out. Tim,
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for stopping by. I've had a blast
Speaker 2: talking to you, ma'am.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for having me on. They say
Speaker 3: you don't have to go home, but you can stay.
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