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<v Speaker 1>Now one of your pudding. I got a string going

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<v Speaker 1>on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,

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<v Speaker 1>my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over

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<v Speaker 1>the fence and he was dead. And once you hit

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<v Speaker 1>the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I

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<v Speaker 1>saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling

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<v Speaker 1>around out here. Did you see what it was or

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<v Speaker 1>was it was? Standing enough. I'm out here looking through

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<v Speaker 1>the window now and I don't see anything. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go outside. Jesus Quice, you better hello, get

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<v Speaker 1>somebody out here. Quin, I'm out there. I thought of

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<v Speaker 1>a bitch of about taking fort nine. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Easy him out there. Yeah, I'm walking right.

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<v Speaker 2>Ay, all right, I'm going to welcome my guest to

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<v Speaker 2>the show. It is Tim from North Carolina. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>the show, sir, Thank you, sir. I had been looking

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<v Speaker 2>forward to this conversation. I got to come up a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks ago and go out with you guys

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<v Speaker 2>over in the South Mountains. We had a fantastic day

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<v Speaker 2>out in the woods. I've talked about that a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit on the show. I've used some of Jerry's storytelling

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<v Speaker 2>abilities on the show, and people are really enjoying those episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're here to talk about your own personal experiences,

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<v Speaker 2>So let's get into that first and foremost. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>ask you this, What in the world got you interested

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<v Speaker 2>in the subject of bigfoot sasquatch to begin with?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, it was having an encounter with one. This guy

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<v Speaker 3>moved in up above me. His name was news from

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<v Speaker 3>Corbett and had become my best friend. Brush country folks.

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<v Speaker 3>Leading back, I was outside cleaning the deer and hate

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<v Speaker 3>moved in and talking nine million miles a minute. My

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<v Speaker 3>name is Dave was Corbett. I just moved down the

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<v Speaker 3>house up here boating, and I see you like hunting

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<v Speaker 3>fish and I see in about two weeks and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying not to cut myself and everything. And he jumps

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<v Speaker 3>ins trucks and takes off, and my wife said, who

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<v Speaker 3>in the world was at I said, I got His

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<v Speaker 3>name was Noose from Corbett. They just bloaded in up

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<v Speaker 3>above us. He likes to hunt and fish and he'll

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<v Speaker 3>see me in about two weeks and I'll probably never

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<v Speaker 3>seen him again. But sure enough, in about two weeks

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<v Speaker 3>he showed up. We became great friends. His wife's family

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<v Speaker 3>has some property, not the property that they was living on,

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<v Speaker 3>but some more property that they would come up from

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<v Speaker 3>Florida maybe once a year twice that the most a

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<v Speaker 3>little cabin on eighty six acres. They would come up

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<v Speaker 3>spend a weekend. And he said, since I've moved up here,

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<v Speaker 3>let's make that us a place to hunt. And I said, man,

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<v Speaker 3>that sounds great. So we started going in and putting

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<v Speaker 3>up deer feeders and cameras and stuff like cat They'd

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<v Speaker 3>already had some cameras up in one feeder, but we

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<v Speaker 3>put in a lot more. One day was up our

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<v Speaker 3>work and he said, we've got to get even with

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<v Speaker 3>my boys. I said, okay, what's going on. They had

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<v Speaker 3>taken us set of Vallad deer horns out of the

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<v Speaker 3>cabin and took it and stuck it in front of

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<v Speaker 3>his trail camera. Now this was back when there's the

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<v Speaker 3>thirty five millimeter. They wasn't even digital yet. He said

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<v Speaker 3>that he had got those pictures and his and Walmart

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<v Speaker 3>and God Will developed in the first one he looked

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<v Speaker 3>at was that set of fallider on. So Hey freaked out,

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<v Speaker 3>telling his wife, get you junk, we got to go

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<v Speaker 3>so long story short, his wife finally got him to

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<v Speaker 3>look at more pictures and there was this boys and

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<v Speaker 3>their friends holding up those deer horns in front of

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<v Speaker 3>his trail captain. He said, so we've got to get

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<v Speaker 3>engling with him. And I said, I'll tell you what

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<v Speaker 3>we'll do. My dad and one of his best friends

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<v Speaker 3>found some tracks up here in the county we lived in,

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<v Speaker 3>and there was about eighteen inches long back in the seventies.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, trouble, I'll make us some big set of

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<v Speaker 3>tracks and we'll go stalm from through the mud and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff and make them think there's a big foot up here.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said, oh, so I did. I made a

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<v Speaker 3>set of tracks, stuck them and trembling, ronded the toes

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<v Speaker 3>and made them look real good, attached from to the

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<v Speaker 3>bottom machine. Here. Boys, they was in their twenties and thirties.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a band that they was in. They were

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<v Speaker 3>playing here locally, so they was up all night sleeping late,

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<v Speaker 3>and we snuck up our made from fake tracks and

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<v Speaker 3>broke some limbs and all that kind of stuff. Snuck

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<v Speaker 3>back out, and he said, they're gonna call me after

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<v Speaker 3>they wake up and I'll come up here and we'll

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<v Speaker 3>shoot some guns and stuff. And I told him, I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't be with you because I'll get the life

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<v Speaker 3>in too much. So he went back and they walked

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<v Speaker 3>out by the tracks. Didn't even see it. He told them,

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<v Speaker 3>you's got me on the deer horns, and they ain't

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<v Speaker 3>getting me on this. They said, what he said, this

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<v Speaker 3>big track right here. When they seen the track that

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<v Speaker 3>we'd made, they freaked out, there's a big foot up here,

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<v Speaker 3>just on their trapper. If we can get pictures of

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<v Speaker 3>this thing, we'll make millions of dollars. I can't believe

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<v Speaker 3>we got a bigfoot. They took it hook line and

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<v Speaker 3>Sinker had to play a gig that night, and they

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<v Speaker 3>told their dad, said, we're canceling. We're going to go

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<v Speaker 3>buy trail cameras. We'pend every bit of money we got

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<v Speaker 3>on trail cameras and put them in the woods get

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<v Speaker 3>pictures of this thing. Their dad told them said, no

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<v Speaker 3>on that. You've donet and give the man your word

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<v Speaker 3>that you're going to be there. You're going to be there.

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<v Speaker 3>So when they went to do their gig and their

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<v Speaker 3>dad went with them. I snuck back up and got

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<v Speaker 3>my shoes and done some more stuff. I turned chairs over,

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<v Speaker 3>throw clothes around outside and all that stuff. And they

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<v Speaker 3>come in at two thirds in the morning and seen

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<v Speaker 3>worry I'd been up there, and they called the dad,

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<v Speaker 3>Bigfoot's been back, and he said, in your face. So

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<v Speaker 3>that's how I got started in it. But the bad

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<v Speaker 3>thing was not long after that we started having encounters.

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<v Speaker 3>We was up there to kill a wild holl that

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<v Speaker 3>was coming in and rooting his yard up, and we

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<v Speaker 3>got up in the attic of the house. Three raccoons

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<v Speaker 3>come out in the yard, stayed for probably ten twelve minutes,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they turned around to run back into the bush,

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<v Speaker 3>and something grabbed one of them and it roared. It

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't a bear. I knew that. I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 3>it was because of the sound that it made, and

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<v Speaker 3>everything went dead quiet. The coon quit squawlling. It had

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<v Speaker 3>killed the coon. Then in just a few minutes it

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<v Speaker 3>started whistling, and wor's that and there with the window open,

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<v Speaker 3>thinking that hog was going to come out, but instead

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<v Speaker 3>it was the big foot grabbing the coon. When it roared.

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<v Speaker 3>I told my buddy, I said, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>that is. I said, that's not a bear. Bears don't

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<v Speaker 3>make that sound. It's not a dog. That wasn't a

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<v Speaker 3>dog bark. I've never heard that sound before in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>So we sat there and then it started whistling, and

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I definitely don't know. Number one what made

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<v Speaker 3>the sound. Number two jumped on the full sized raccoon,

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<v Speaker 3>killed it within three four seconds, and then can whistle.

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<v Speaker 3>None of this is making sense. We set there and

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<v Speaker 3>listened to it for probably five ten minutes, just whistling,

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<v Speaker 3>and that would whistle about every fifteen twenty seconds. We

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<v Speaker 3>turned the light on to come down out of the house.

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<v Speaker 3>We was going to leave because we didn't know what

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<v Speaker 3>it was. We knew the hog what in coming out,

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<v Speaker 3>and as soon as we turned that light on, the

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<v Speaker 3>whistling stock and that was the first run in with

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<v Speaker 3>one of them that I had. After that, the more

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<v Speaker 3>that we was on the property where nobody had been

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<v Speaker 3>on it much, the more we was on there, the

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<v Speaker 3>more encounters we was having, having sticks throwed at us,

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<v Speaker 3>having rocks throwed at us. Then when we tried to

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<v Speaker 3>tell people what was going on that oh yeah, big Foot,

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<v Speaker 3>because we'd played the oak on them earlier, so we

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't get nobody to believe us that went on. That

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<v Speaker 3>was in two thousand and eight. Every time we was

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<v Speaker 3>up there, they would do something, whether it was screaming, yelling,

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<v Speaker 3>throwing rock, putting brush in our trails, going up to

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<v Speaker 3>our deer stands, messing with the feeders, taking the corner

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<v Speaker 3>out of the feeders. All of that stuff is just

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<v Speaker 3>grew from there. Once he passed away, I no longer

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<v Speaker 3>had the land that I could go on there. But

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<v Speaker 3>luckily for me, I have run in to them and

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<v Speaker 3>other places have got some good research areas. And actually

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<v Speaker 3>just right across the ridge from their property was Pup

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<v Speaker 3>Game Lens. That is where I saw my first one

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<v Speaker 3>being Dwight Campbell was up there walking in and DWIGHTE.

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<v Speaker 3>Campbell and while Trent had at the time it was

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<v Speaker 3>called Dirty South squatching. Now it's called Sashquatrecon and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>part of that group as well as the NCI group.

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<v Speaker 3>But they was the one that got me to do

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<v Speaker 3>in research when Newson was alive. When we found stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>I would bring it home, show them wife and kids, grandkids,

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of stuff and then just delete it. But

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<v Speaker 3>they was the ones that got me to do an

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<v Speaker 3>audio research in recordings, actually documenting stuff. Many Dwight was

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<v Speaker 3>walking downto one of our areas. We've gone round the

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<v Speaker 3>road and at the time we had two dogs and

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<v Speaker 3>their name was Fendi and Gaudy, and they come and

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<v Speaker 3>got under our feet and when they did that, we

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<v Speaker 3>knew that something was around. And we're standing there talking

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<v Speaker 3>about it and we can smell it, and the clear

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<v Speaker 3>cut up above me, I see it moved just a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, just enough for me to notice it. We

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<v Speaker 3>keep standing there talking about smelling it. We had been

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<v Speaker 3>standing there probably close to ten minutes talking about it,

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<v Speaker 3>and it moved again, and I told White, I said,

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<v Speaker 3>there's up then moving in the clear cut. It's just thick.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't see. But there was no birds that was

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<v Speaker 3>one of those. Were no birds making sounds, no quirls

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<v Speaker 3>running around, nothing, and that movement was just out of

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<v Speaker 3>place because nothing else was going on. And he took

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<v Speaker 3>his camera zoomed in and we actually got a picture

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<v Speaker 3>of it behind a big burn of dirt, watching us

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<v Speaker 3>go around the road, and it followed us a mile

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<v Speaker 3>and a halfe in to a research area and back

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<v Speaker 3>out almost to the truck. It followed us within fifty

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<v Speaker 3>yards of our vehicle. That was the first one that

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<v Speaker 3>I ever put eyes on. Since then, I have seen

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<v Speaker 3>four more. The closest one would actually be the very

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<v Speaker 3>next one I saw. The second one I saw, I

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<v Speaker 3>was in another part of the woods here in the county.

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<v Speaker 3>I lived in Macon County in North Carolina. I went

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<v Speaker 3>to another place that I liked to bowl, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was walking up the ridge and bow hunting, going to

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<v Speaker 3>go up to the top ridge and say it where

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<v Speaker 3>it's flat. I was walking up through there. One of

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<v Speaker 3>them come out from behind a big oak tree within

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<v Speaker 3>I'd said it had to be within twenty feet of me.

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<v Speaker 3>It took five big steps and turned around and looked

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<v Speaker 3>at me over its shoulder. And it didn't turn its body.

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<v Speaker 3>It just looked over its shoulder at men and my brain.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking, my brain's trying to process what am I

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<v Speaker 3>looking at, because here's something walking out seven and seven

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<v Speaker 3>high feet tall on two legs, long arms, broad shoulders.

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<v Speaker 3>It took those five steps the best I can remember,

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<v Speaker 3>because I only took a quick look at its face,

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<v Speaker 3>when it turned to look at me, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>on me only having my crossbow. That if I was

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<v Speaker 3>more than one of them, I was in trouble. It

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<v Speaker 3>took those five steps, turned and looked at me, and

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<v Speaker 3>then it dropped down to all fours. I have never

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<v Speaker 3>to look again to make sure nothing else is coming out,

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<v Speaker 3>and I can't find it. It got gone that quick.

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<v Speaker 3>The best I remember, it had the paddy looking face,

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<v Speaker 3>just like on the pattershing Dimlin fim. What I remember

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<v Speaker 3>the most about it was the way it looked so

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<v Speaker 3>funny running on all the four because its hons was

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<v Speaker 3>so much longer than its back legs. It was actually

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<v Speaker 3>jacked up in the front, or like a hyena looks

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<v Speaker 3>longer legs in the front than the back end. I

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<v Speaker 3>to figure out where it went. I never saw it

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<v Speaker 3>no more. I can't say that it disappeared because he

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<v Speaker 3>could have got across the open woods where I was

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<v Speaker 3>at in just a few seconds. So I ain't going

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<v Speaker 3>to say that it turned into his bore or close

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<v Speaker 3>or done nothing like that. I just don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>happened to it. He just got gone that area. I've

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<v Speaker 3>had quite a few encounters in there. That's actually one

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<v Speaker 3>of the areas I'm getting ready to just more investigate

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<v Speaker 3>and then this year, because it seems like the last

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<v Speaker 3>few times i've been in there deer hunting, turkey hunting

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff, I've had run ins with them. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to start like that. One of my main priorities.

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<v Speaker 3>Another one that I saw, me and Dwight Campbell was

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<v Speaker 3>in Cage's Cove. We was going around the loop on

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<v Speaker 3>Cage Cove and they told me, said there was one

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<v Speaker 3>just went behind I blowed over tree. I had my

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<v Speaker 3>thermal binoculars. This was during the daytime. My binoculars will

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<v Speaker 3>detect takee signatures out the eighteen hundred yard The rangefinder

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<v Speaker 3>on my binocular said that the tree was around five

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and ninety five yards somewhere around and there. You

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<v Speaker 3>could see this thing's shoulder come out every once in

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<v Speaker 3>a while and that once a while you'd see it's

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<v Speaker 3>on move. One time it peeked out and we're sitting

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<v Speaker 3>there and cars are going by. This woman pulls off.

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<v Speaker 3>My truck had bigfoot stuff all over it. She walked

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<v Speaker 3>up and she said, or you're looking for those creatures

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<v Speaker 3>in here? And I said, yes, ma'am, we're actually watching

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<v Speaker 3>one right now, and she jumped in her car and

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<v Speaker 3>took off. That was the third one that I saw.

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<v Speaker 3>The fourth one I got another real good look at

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<v Speaker 3>because it was in one of my research areas. It

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<v Speaker 3>was on December the first of two thousand and twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd come out of my research area changing my audio

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<v Speaker 3>over cords out and my trail cameras and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's deer season, so I thought, I'll just go

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<v Speaker 3>back around the road where I walked in and find

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<v Speaker 3>me a place to hunt. So I walked around road

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<v Speaker 3>and found me some deer signed and sat down. And

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<v Speaker 3>I've been sitting there by the iron and I felt

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<v Speaker 3>like something was watching.

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<v Speaker 2>And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be right back.

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<v Speaker 3>After these messages. I looked over my shoulder and up

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<v Speaker 3>on little old knob behind me about one hundred yards.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a little creature standing there and I can see everything,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's right show. I can see from its right shoulder,

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<v Speaker 3>its head, it's left shoulder, its body, both legs, everything.

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<v Speaker 3>I just couldn't see that right arm and right show.

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<v Speaker 3>I start watching it and it just says theirn looks

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<v Speaker 3>at me. I just sit there and look at it,

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<v Speaker 3>and then by brain clicks and I think I need

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<v Speaker 3>to try to get a picture of it whatever I can.

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<v Speaker 3>So I grabbed my phone, and I had just gotten

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<v Speaker 3>a knife phone and stood the old flip phone. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't get it to sue men like I want. I

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<v Speaker 3>was wanting to get a close up look at its face.

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<v Speaker 3>So I laid my phone down and I'm watching it

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<v Speaker 3>over my shoulder, and as soon as I put my

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<v Speaker 3>hand on my gun, I wasn't going to shoot it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just wanted to look for the stop on

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<v Speaker 3>my rifle to get a better look at it. And

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<v Speaker 3>as soon as I put my hand on my gun,

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<v Speaker 3>it stepped back behind the trees and all I could

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<v Speaker 3>see was its left show. I stood there was looking

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<v Speaker 3>through my rifle and everything, and I thought, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want it to think I'm going to hurt it. So

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<v Speaker 3>I laid my gun back down and just started watching it,

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<v Speaker 3>and it would not leave. So I thought, I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>after I'm not paying it any attention, and I turned

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<v Speaker 3>my head and was watching it down in my peripheral

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<v Speaker 3>and I could see it moving. It went from standing

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<v Speaker 3>up down to all fours and started crawling like an

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<v Speaker 3>army crawl, and crawled from one clunk of trees to

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<v Speaker 3>another one, and then it started back across the ridge,

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<v Speaker 3>crawling on all the fours. And when it done that,

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<v Speaker 3>I turned around and started watching it. It crawled back

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<v Speaker 3>over in to where my research area was at. That

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<v Speaker 3>was the fourth one that assault. Then this year we

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<v Speaker 3>were part of the South Carolina Bigfoot Festival, which me

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<v Speaker 3>and you do a lot of festivals together, even though

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<v Speaker 3>we don't get time to taller. But we had left

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<v Speaker 3>that festival on Saturday night. We was going to go

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<v Speaker 3>squatching at a place where we got bluff chart. We

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<v Speaker 3>left all of our stuff with the health because we

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<v Speaker 3>was going to have to come home and get our

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<v Speaker 3>thermals and their guns and all of that stuff because

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't want to have that at the festival. So

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<v Speaker 3>we had stopped and got Saturday, and after we'd rested

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit, everybody said, I'm taller. We may not

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<v Speaker 3>come back out, and I told him, I said, if

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<v Speaker 3>you want me to, I can take hip and show

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<v Speaker 3>you where we got bluff charge staff because it's on

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<v Speaker 3>the way home and it's only eighty five ninety yards

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<v Speaker 3>from the truck. I said, it won't take us long

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<v Speaker 3>to walk out there. They said, yeah, that'll be good.

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<v Speaker 3>So luckily we did have flashlights in the truck. We

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<v Speaker 3>got up there, my buddy Robert Deffler was talking to

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<v Speaker 3>his wife, had been talking her a while because she

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<v Speaker 3>was having trouble with one on their farm that they

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<v Speaker 3>called Gina. So I handed him a flashlight and told him,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, whenever you get through talking, just come around

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<v Speaker 3>the road. You'll say our lights because we're not going

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<v Speaker 3>that far. As soon as me and Brian Sawyer his

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<v Speaker 3>girlfriend Laura. As soon as we stepped out of the

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<v Speaker 3>truck and shut the door, we had to yell over

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<v Speaker 3>to our left. I told Brian I said, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 3>something mates noise, because I was afraid we'd come up

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<v Speaker 3>here and you didn't just think I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 3>I was talking about. I just taking somebody to a spot.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you don't see nothing, don't hear nothing, I said,

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<v Speaker 3>at least we got to yell out of them. We

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<v Speaker 3>went ahead and got her shoes on it because I

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<v Speaker 3>had t shoes on, putting my squatching boots home, got

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<v Speaker 3>her flashlights and everything. We started using around the road.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it yelled again. That was again on our left

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<v Speaker 3>hand side. We got behind the gate, walked maybe ten

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<v Speaker 3>yards behind the gate, and there's a tree that's been

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<v Speaker 3>laid across the road and on both ends of it

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<v Speaker 3>it's had stuff woven into it, so it didn't follow

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<v Speaker 3>their naturally. So we looked at that and documented it

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<v Speaker 3>stepped across that. No more got across it. Then we

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<v Speaker 3>heard a yell on their right hand side. So now

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<v Speaker 3>we've got them on our right in or left, and

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<v Speaker 3>we just keep using it because we're almost out tofore

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<v Speaker 3>we had the bluff charge. We get out there and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm showing them where it was at a tree that

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<v Speaker 3>you could see where five fingers went around us pine

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<v Speaker 3>tree and just rip the bark and stuff off of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to show them that and some tree brakes

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<v Speaker 3>and all that stuff. Them were found about a fourteen

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<v Speaker 3>poort and half inch track and we're just looking at

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<v Speaker 3>that stuff, not really expecting anything much other than the yells.

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<v Speaker 3>We see Roberts light of coming around the road and

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<v Speaker 3>I hollered at him. I said, come on around the road.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna walk just a little bit further and then

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<v Speaker 3>we'll turn around to come back. And he said, y'all

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<v Speaker 3>might not want to do that. We ain't got nothing

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<v Speaker 3>for him, with like, ain't got nothing for what. We

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<v Speaker 3>come back out into the road and him loft the

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<v Speaker 3>old logging road and we told him was going to

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<v Speaker 3>go around the road, and he said we better not

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<v Speaker 3>do that. We ain't got nothing for him, and we said,

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<v Speaker 3>ain't got nothing for what. And as he was coming

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<v Speaker 3>around where we heard yell, on the right hand side,

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<v Speaker 3>there was a heel right there, and then a little

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<v Speaker 3>old road cuts back in it. When he come to

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<v Speaker 3>where that road was at, something caused his attention, and

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<v Speaker 3>they swirled around and said he saw about a six

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<v Speaker 3>six and eye high foot dog men with blue glowing eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>Every dently it was coming in to get in behind us.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't know Robert was there. And then Robert come from

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<v Speaker 3>around behind that hill and they all the loft, running

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<v Speaker 3>into each other head on, and it took off back

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<v Speaker 3>down the mountain. So we said we ain't got nothing

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<v Speaker 3>for that for sure. So we started walking back out

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<v Speaker 3>to the truck and I look at the hill above

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<v Speaker 3>the truck and there's two glowing eyes. Now I've never

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<v Speaker 3>seen the glowing eyes before. I saw these dog lights

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<v Speaker 3>on them. Know nothing, They're just two big eyes. I

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<v Speaker 3>would say they was sixty yards away from us when

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<v Speaker 3>I see the holler and tell the guys that I've

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<v Speaker 3>got glowing eyes in front of us, and Ryan says

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<v Speaker 3>they're shutting coming. The one that was on the left

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<v Speaker 3>is now coming in behind us. We don't know where

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<v Speaker 3>the dog man went. We thought we'd better raise back

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<v Speaker 3>in this truck. But I'm standing there looking at them eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't wanting to leave because I finally got to

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<v Speaker 3>see some blow and eyes. Every time I put my

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<v Speaker 3>head lamp on it hid it in the eyes, it

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<v Speaker 3>would either turn its head or close its eyes. I

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<v Speaker 3>honestly believe it was turning its head because you could see,

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<v Speaker 3>like when you're looking, you can see the start of

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<v Speaker 3>the eyes, the orange. Then it's turned its head and

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<v Speaker 3>then there's both eyes. We stood there for just a

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<v Speaker 3>few minutes doing that. Behind the truck. One starts trying

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<v Speaker 3>to say, I'm like a hoodah. So we've got the

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<v Speaker 3>one in front of us on the right, the one

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<v Speaker 3>coming in behind us. We don't know where the dog

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<v Speaker 3>man is, and now we've got one behind the truck.

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<v Speaker 3>So we finally get back to the truck. On my truck,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got all kind of dog lights and bright lights

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<v Speaker 3>and all that, and I was going to try to

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<v Speaker 3>get it and hit the one up on the hill

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00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:10.000
<v Speaker 3>that had the eye shine. So I get back to

418
00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:12.279
<v Speaker 3>my truck a little bit ahead of them because I

419
00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:15.759
<v Speaker 3>told them watch if it takes off of whatever, then

420
00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:20.400
<v Speaker 3>we'll know. But they were back behindly. The woman behind

421
00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:22.839
<v Speaker 3>the truck keeps a hollering, so I'll get to messing

422
00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:27.400
<v Speaker 3>with it, hollering like an owl. It was coming closer,

423
00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:30.200
<v Speaker 3>and I finally didn't their lot, so I knew where

424
00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:32.640
<v Speaker 3>it was at it it finally got to where it

425
00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:35.000
<v Speaker 3>could see what was going off. It had come off

426
00:23:35.079 --> 00:23:36.880
<v Speaker 3>the ridge and finally got to where it could see

427
00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:39.440
<v Speaker 3>my truck. When it got to where it could see

428
00:23:39.480 --> 00:23:42.440
<v Speaker 3>my truck, it was hollering at me. But as soon

429
00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:45.039
<v Speaker 3>as it seemed to other guys coming around the road,

430
00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:47.799
<v Speaker 3>so by then they wasn't going to hang out with

431
00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:50.200
<v Speaker 3>the dog man anymore and they was coming kill me.

432
00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:53.880
<v Speaker 3>It shut up, so we got in the truck and

433
00:23:54.160 --> 00:23:57.480
<v Speaker 3>drove down the road about three four hundred George and

434
00:23:57.559 --> 00:24:00.599
<v Speaker 3>pulled off. We was just going set the and listen

435
00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:02.799
<v Speaker 3>see if we could hear anything back up where the

436
00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:07.599
<v Speaker 3>truck was at. They started barking like dogs. It was

437
00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:11.640
<v Speaker 3>the weirdest thing, one of the weirdest things I've had.

438
00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:14.640
<v Speaker 3>There was two of them, and one of them would

439
00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:18.240
<v Speaker 3>do a high pitch bar and the other one would

440
00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:20.400
<v Speaker 3>do a load pitch, and the load pitch it would

441
00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:24.039
<v Speaker 3>bark twice. It sounded close to a doll, but then

442
00:24:24.200 --> 00:24:26.319
<v Speaker 3>on the third one you could tell it wasn't because

443
00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:30.720
<v Speaker 3>he'd go oh like that, and the high pitched one

444
00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:33.960
<v Speaker 3>done pretty good. But we could tell that the sound

445
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:37.000
<v Speaker 3>of coming right from where we just left, because there's

446
00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:40.759
<v Speaker 3>no houses around there, no word that a dog would

447
00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:45.240
<v Speaker 3>have been up where we just left. So Robert gets

448
00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.359
<v Speaker 3>out and we're talking about how they're doing that, and

449
00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:50.640
<v Speaker 3>he gets out and does a whoop and they shut up.

450
00:24:51.240 --> 00:24:54.160
<v Speaker 3>So that was the life one I saw was the

451
00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:57.240
<v Speaker 3>one with the eyes of shining. But we've had all

452
00:24:57.359 --> 00:25:00.680
<v Speaker 3>kinds of encounters. I've had rocks throwed at me. I've

453
00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:03.599
<v Speaker 3>heard them talk. They do have a language. I've heard

454
00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:08.480
<v Speaker 3>that two times. My budget property before heat passed away,

455
00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:11.720
<v Speaker 3>me and him was in their deer hunting in the

456
00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:15.160
<v Speaker 3>same week. On a Tuesday and a Thursday of the

457
00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:18.920
<v Speaker 3>same week. I heard them setting in, two of them

458
00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:21.759
<v Speaker 3>talking back and forth to each other. It's just been

459
00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:25.720
<v Speaker 3>a roller coaster. Just to be honest with you, it's

460
00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:30.039
<v Speaker 3>one of those things. I think when you encountered these creatures,

461
00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:33.039
<v Speaker 3>usually one or two things happen. You either don't want

462
00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:35.759
<v Speaker 3>nothing to do with them, or you want to learn more.

463
00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:39.680
<v Speaker 3>I've been doing this since two thousand and they it

464
00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:42.920
<v Speaker 3>honestly seems like I have more questions now than I

465
00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:46.640
<v Speaker 3>did one we storting. It's just a never ending thing.

466
00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:50.480
<v Speaker 3>I've heard people say that they attached to you. I

467
00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:53.559
<v Speaker 3>don't know if that's true or not, but I do

468
00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:57.359
<v Speaker 3>know that every one of my areas that I used

469
00:25:57.359 --> 00:26:01.440
<v Speaker 3>to hunt in they now have bigfoots in they wasn't

470
00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:05.920
<v Speaker 3>there before. I've never saw the structures or got yelled

471
00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:08.720
<v Speaker 3>dad or screened that. But that's how I got into it.

472
00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:11.519
<v Speaker 3>Like I said, it has just been a roller coaster ride,

473
00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:14.960
<v Speaker 3>to be honest, because you go out and you don't

474
00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:17.480
<v Speaker 3>see nothing. You don't see nothing, you don't hear nothing,

475
00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:22.160
<v Speaker 3>and then when you're about to give up, one will

476
00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:24.920
<v Speaker 3>yell or show itself or whatever, and you get that

477
00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:27.920
<v Speaker 3>sparked again and you can't give up. It's like golf.

478
00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:29.920
<v Speaker 3>It definitely sounds like it's been a roller coaster.

479
00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I want to go back to a couple of things,

480
00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:34.440
<v Speaker 2>I guess before I go back to the very beginning

481
00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:36.079
<v Speaker 2>and ask some questions about that.

482
00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Let's talk a little bit about the bluff charge that

483
00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:39.240
<v Speaker 3>brought you.

484
00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:41.240
<v Speaker 2>Guys back to that area when you took Brian and

485
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:45.559
<v Speaker 2>everybody out there after the South Carolina Bigfoot Festival.

486
00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:46.839
<v Speaker 3>Can you talk a little bit.

487
00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:48.759
<v Speaker 2>About what happened here in the situation where you had

488
00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:49.440
<v Speaker 2>the bluff charge?

489
00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:52.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, sir, I'm sorry I should have done that.

490
00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:56.240
<v Speaker 3>We was in a place here, it's called Scaly Mountain,

491
00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:58.759
<v Speaker 3>and me and my dad that went in there to

492
00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:02.240
<v Speaker 3>fix him a place to un he's real bad dia bed.

493
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:04.960
<v Speaker 3>It couldn't get around good, so we found a little

494
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:07.799
<v Speaker 3>old flat logging road to go around, and we went

495
00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:10.519
<v Speaker 3>in and made him a place to set it. When

496
00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:14.759
<v Speaker 3>we come back out and started to get into the

497
00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:18.799
<v Speaker 3>main logging road. Now these are shut off with far

498
00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:21.359
<v Speaker 3>service gates, grass rolled up on them. They're not in

499
00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:24.640
<v Speaker 3>there logging or nothing. But when we come and got

500
00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:28.920
<v Speaker 3>almost out to the main road, we looked up and

501
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:31.799
<v Speaker 3>there's a pine tree about the big around as a

502
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:35.799
<v Speaker 3>telephone pole, and you could see where one finger had

503
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:38.720
<v Speaker 3>drafted around one side and the other four fingers had

504
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:41.400
<v Speaker 3>dropped around the other side, and it had just pulled

505
00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:44.559
<v Speaker 3>the bark and it was a white pine and it

506
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:47.640
<v Speaker 3>had just peeled everything back, and it done that while

507
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:49.920
<v Speaker 3>me and my dad was around the road. It wasn't

508
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:54.160
<v Speaker 3>they're when we went in. So I was going to

509
00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:59.720
<v Speaker 3>take Dwight Campbell and Robbing Moonshadow down there and showed

510
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:04.559
<v Speaker 3>them on where the handprint was on the tree. We

511
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:07.079
<v Speaker 3>got down there and pulled up to the gate ported

512
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:09.960
<v Speaker 3>and got out and started a round through there. We

513
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:14.039
<v Speaker 3>heard if I had mistaken it was a knoll off

514
00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:17.119
<v Speaker 3>to our left, and that it was actually worth the

515
00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:21.319
<v Speaker 3>same spot where Rob the dog Man when we was there,

516
00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:24.039
<v Speaker 3>but anywhere on the right hand side. We heard the knock,

517
00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:25.920
<v Speaker 3>and we dropped off down in there and looked at

518
00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:29.400
<v Speaker 3>some structures and all that stuff. Come back up into

519
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:32.279
<v Speaker 3>the main road and just had started to get on

520
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:35.640
<v Speaker 3>the logging road to go out to where that tree

521
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:39.400
<v Speaker 3>was where my dad was going to hunt. Up on

522
00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:43.920
<v Speaker 3>the ridge above us, we hear something stark screening. I've

523
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:47.279
<v Speaker 3>heard quite a few vocalizations, but I've never heard it

524
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:53.319
<v Speaker 3>do that kind of vocalization. Hit what the normal whoop?

525
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:55.839
<v Speaker 3>You could tell that it was irritated. I'll just put

526
00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:59.680
<v Speaker 3>it that way. It comes down state out of side

527
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:02.079
<v Speaker 3>the wall. We couldn't see it, but we could hear it,

528
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:05.279
<v Speaker 3>and it come off the ridge above us, come down

529
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:09.960
<v Speaker 3>and got between us and the vehicle, and it started

530
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:14.960
<v Speaker 3>vocalizations so loud, your whole bodies vibrating. That is, honestly,

531
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:17.839
<v Speaker 3>out of all my years of doing this, that's the

532
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:20.240
<v Speaker 3>first time I've ever put my hand on my gun.

533
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Because it was between us and the vehicle. We knew

534
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:29.559
<v Speaker 3>not to run. We just stood there because where we're

535
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:31.279
<v Speaker 3>going to run to. If we run the other way,

536
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:33.960
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be taking us further away from the vehicles.

537
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:36.079
<v Speaker 3>And like I said, we know not to run because

538
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:39.079
<v Speaker 3>it's like a cat and a mouse. If we played dead,

539
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:42.039
<v Speaker 3>then a lot of times they lose interus. So we

540
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:45.599
<v Speaker 3>just stood there, every one of them throw the listening.

541
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:49.839
<v Speaker 3>Finally it hushed and moved off. We went and found

542
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:53.400
<v Speaker 3>them where she had come down the hill, dropped off,

543
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:56.519
<v Speaker 3>done in there and then line a sight of from

544
00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:59.960
<v Speaker 3>where she was at before she started to make the noise.

545
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.000
<v Speaker 3>We looked from where we was at. We found a

546
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:05.880
<v Speaker 3>big nest that had been woven together.

547
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:09.200
<v Speaker 2>And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see.

548
00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:16.480
<v Speaker 3>We'll be right back after these messages with all kinds

549
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:18.839
<v Speaker 3>of I don't know what those flants are called on

550
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:21.440
<v Speaker 3>the side of the branch, but they stayed green year

551
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:24.160
<v Speaker 3>round about the big round is my teky. But we

552
00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:27.720
<v Speaker 3>found one of those woven together into the nest, and

553
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:31.440
<v Speaker 3>we found some about four inch tracks, and from that

554
00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:34.160
<v Speaker 3>nest you could save the top of the ridge where

555
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:38.559
<v Speaker 3>the sound come from. So we figured it was a

556
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:41.519
<v Speaker 3>female and we was about to go in between her

557
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:44.880
<v Speaker 3>and the little one. She's seen us and come off

558
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:47.720
<v Speaker 3>the ridge and got her little one and then moved off.

559
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:51.400
<v Speaker 3>That's the best scenario we could come up with.

560
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:54.079
<v Speaker 2>I want to go back to the very beginning how

561
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:56.200
<v Speaker 2>this all started. And I would be remiss if I

562
00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:58.960
<v Speaker 2>didn't ask you this question. It's usually a single question,

563
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:00.720
<v Speaker 2>but I'm going to make it a two part question.

564
00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:05.680
<v Speaker 2>First and foremost, do you regret trying to play the

565
00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:08.599
<v Speaker 2>hoax on the guys with the footprints? Do you think

566
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:11.519
<v Speaker 2>that affected how they responded to you and your friend

567
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:14.359
<v Speaker 2>once you actually started having activity. And I guess the

568
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:17.359
<v Speaker 2>second part of that question is have you ever regretted

569
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:20.000
<v Speaker 2>telling anybody what's happened to you because of the way

570
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:22.279
<v Speaker 2>that they've reacted, whether it be a friend or somebody

571
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:24.640
<v Speaker 2>that's in your family. So I guess that would be

572
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:25.400
<v Speaker 2>the two part question.

573
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:30.039
<v Speaker 3>At times I do regret playing the joke on the boys,

574
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.680
<v Speaker 3>but since their dad has passed away, I was actually

575
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:36.960
<v Speaker 3>texting with one of them the other day. We brought

576
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:40.359
<v Speaker 3>it up about playing the joke and everything, and they

577
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:43.559
<v Speaker 3>believe us. Now. It took a long time, but they

578
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:46.839
<v Speaker 3>finally got to where they believed us because some of

579
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:50.160
<v Speaker 3>them had in cameras up there. At times I do,

580
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:52.920
<v Speaker 3>and at times of doll it would have been a

581
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.440
<v Speaker 3>lot better because we might have could have got some

582
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:58.839
<v Speaker 3>more help if we had instead of me and him

583
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:01.880
<v Speaker 3>having to do it on our own. For Salon the

584
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:05.920
<v Speaker 3>part about telling anybody. It was one of those things

585
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:10.519
<v Speaker 3>that I, honestly, for a long time, had to come

586
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:15.519
<v Speaker 3>to grips with myself because growing up here, I thought

587
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:19.119
<v Speaker 3>I knew pretty much everything that was going on in

588
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:21.680
<v Speaker 3>the woods. I know people are going to say, yeah,

589
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:24.839
<v Speaker 3>we hear that all the time I started actually falling

590
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:28.799
<v Speaker 3>my dad hunting and fishing. I formed in fishing before

591
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:32.480
<v Speaker 3>I could hardly walk, but hunting since I was six

592
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:36.960
<v Speaker 3>years old, been fortunate enough to see the black panthers,

593
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:41.880
<v Speaker 3>mountain lions, and red wolfs here in the county that

594
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:45.160
<v Speaker 3>I live in. So I thought I had a pretty

595
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.960
<v Speaker 3>good grasp on everything that was supposed to be there.

596
00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:53.960
<v Speaker 3>For about the first year. Honestly, it got to words.

597
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:57.880
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know if I was making myself, you know

598
00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:00.359
<v Speaker 3>what I mean, if my mind was playing tricks on me,

599
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:04.200
<v Speaker 3>or if the strains and the stuff that was happening

600
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:08.519
<v Speaker 3>was actually happening. I don't usually talk about religion and

601
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:11.680
<v Speaker 3>all that stuff, but I am a Christian. It was

602
00:33:11.799 --> 00:33:13.960
<v Speaker 3>bothering me so bad, I said, Mord, I just need

603
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:18.279
<v Speaker 3>to answer. I need to know if I'm putting too

604
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:21.839
<v Speaker 3>much into this, and this stuff is not actually happening,

605
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:24.519
<v Speaker 3>then I'm bringing it on myself. Then I need to

606
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:27.640
<v Speaker 3>know because I need to take a break from it.

607
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:31.920
<v Speaker 3>I had an old picture that I'd had for probably

608
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:35.440
<v Speaker 3>four years that I thought it was real. Dark when

609
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:38.640
<v Speaker 3>the trail cam to it, I thought it was the

610
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:42.599
<v Speaker 3>hind end of the deer. And the thought comes to

611
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:46.400
<v Speaker 3>my head, take that picture on my computer and lighting

612
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:50.039
<v Speaker 3>it up. When I lightened it up, you can see

613
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:54.880
<v Speaker 3>a shoulder and a head. It's other shoulder leaning out

614
00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:59.599
<v Speaker 3>from behind a tree. I thought, Okay, I'm fine with it.

615
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Know they're real. Now, I know what's going on is

616
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:07.039
<v Speaker 3>not me believes in my ever loving mind, know what's

617
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:12.039
<v Speaker 3>happening is actually happening. Since then, I've not ready cured

618
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:14.000
<v Speaker 3>what other people thought. I don't want to be a

619
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Jersey even if people make fun of them. My own

620
00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:21.280
<v Speaker 3>brothers that don't believe. Even though I've seen them, my

621
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:24.480
<v Speaker 3>son has seen them, when my daddy's seen them, they

622
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:27.239
<v Speaker 3>still don't bleed it. You can believe it if you

623
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:31.360
<v Speaker 3>want to or not. Because even though people may make

624
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:35.000
<v Speaker 3>fun to do whatever, make fun, call you crazy, whatever,

625
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:37.880
<v Speaker 3>that still don't change the fact of what I've seen

626
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:41.719
<v Speaker 3>and what I know. So the first part of it

627
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:45.559
<v Speaker 3>was finally coming to grips with it that it is real.

628
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:49.360
<v Speaker 3>And once other new call fred evidence and saw that picture,

629
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:53.559
<v Speaker 3>then it's not bothered me. Since, like I said, I

630
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:56.480
<v Speaker 3>don't care what people say. I'm really not trying to

631
00:34:56.519 --> 00:34:59.840
<v Speaker 3>be a jerk. Why would you let it bother you

632
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.840
<v Speaker 3>that somebody don't believe you when you know what you know?

633
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:06.360
<v Speaker 3>So that's just the way I look at it. If

634
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:09.800
<v Speaker 3>people want to believe me, that's find and if they

635
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:11.880
<v Speaker 3>don't judge, fine, they're the one that has to deal

636
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:14.920
<v Speaker 3>with that. All I've got to do is deal with

637
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:17.320
<v Speaker 3>what I know. I am right there with you.

638
00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk a little bit about the experiences that you've had.

639
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I guess based on the experiences that you've had. This

640
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:26.000
<v Speaker 2>is something that I've started to ask people recently, because

641
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:28.920
<v Speaker 2>you even mentioned it a little while ago that you'd

642
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:31.639
<v Speaker 2>never seen signed, you never had any experiences in these

643
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:34.679
<v Speaker 2>areas that you're hunting, and now you are and these

644
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.280
<v Speaker 2>creatures are there. So this is a little bit of

645
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:39.960
<v Speaker 2>a deeper question. But based on the experiences you have,

646
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:43.400
<v Speaker 2>do you think there's more at play? Here because there

647
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:46.360
<v Speaker 2>are people in the community that feel like there may

648
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:48.960
<v Speaker 2>be more to these creatures, and that they actually show

649
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:53.639
<v Speaker 2>themselves to certain people that can handle it or meet

650
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:57.760
<v Speaker 2>certain criteria those kind of things. Do you think your

651
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:01.360
<v Speaker 2>experiences have been random or do you think there's something

652
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:04.639
<v Speaker 2>that's more deeply connected to the subject and maybe these

653
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:06.760
<v Speaker 2>creatures and maybe even your involvement in it.

654
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:10.480
<v Speaker 3>If you would have asked me that when all of

655
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:14.239
<v Speaker 3>this started, I'd just said, I think it's just random.

656
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:19.360
<v Speaker 3>But having places since I've run into these creatures, and

657
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:24.039
<v Speaker 3>having places that I've hunted for years and years with

658
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:27.679
<v Speaker 3>no sign of them whatsoever, and then all of a

659
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:32.440
<v Speaker 3>sudden they show up, I'm starting to lean towards the

660
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:36.559
<v Speaker 3>fact that they maybe do follow me, or they know

661
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:39.880
<v Speaker 3>that you're not a threat. I honestly believe that they

662
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:43.440
<v Speaker 3>don't know when you're a thread or not. Because on

663
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:47.039
<v Speaker 3>my buddy's property, after about the first year in the height,

664
00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:50.639
<v Speaker 3>all the streaming and yelling and all of that stuff quit.

665
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Then it was just messing with us by putting stuff

666
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:58.679
<v Speaker 3>in our trails or throwing rocks and that kinds of

667
00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:02.280
<v Speaker 3>not trying to hit us, but let us know when

668
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:05.480
<v Speaker 3>it was time to go. You've been dear hunting out

669
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:07.679
<v Speaker 3>here all day. It's time for you to go, and

670
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:11.039
<v Speaker 3>they usually start thirty forty yards out, and then they

671
00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:14.199
<v Speaker 3>get a little closer and a little closer until you

672
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:17.599
<v Speaker 3>got up and lift. I think once they see that

673
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:21.519
<v Speaker 3>you're not going to bother them and they accept you,

674
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:25.480
<v Speaker 3>that they do show their shelf more readily to you

675
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:27.679
<v Speaker 3>because they know that you're not going to balk them.

676
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:32.760
<v Speaker 3>I do wish a million times over that when I

677
00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:37.239
<v Speaker 3>saw the one on the first dead December, that I

678
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:40.480
<v Speaker 3>had never picked my gun up, even though I couldn't

679
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:43.079
<v Speaker 3>get my phone to work like I wanted it to.

680
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.559
<v Speaker 3>I wish I'd have just kept looking instead of picking

681
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:50.480
<v Speaker 3>my gun up, because I don't want them to think

682
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:53.199
<v Speaker 3>that I'm going to hurt them. I think they do

683
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:55.559
<v Speaker 3>have a sense of humor. I think some of the

684
00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:00.519
<v Speaker 3>stuff they do just to aggravate you off. When I

685
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:03.960
<v Speaker 3>find stuff in my trails, I always clean it out

686
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:07.599
<v Speaker 3>Nine times out of ten. When I come back, something

687
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.000
<v Speaker 3>else will be done. I think they do it just

688
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:14.079
<v Speaker 3>to interact. I'll give you this story if we've got time.

689
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:16.480
<v Speaker 3>I was going into one of my research areas I

690
00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:21.159
<v Speaker 3>hadn't been in there for a few weeks. I started

691
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:24.960
<v Speaker 3>noticing all of these laurel bushes broke down across my trail.

692
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:29.440
<v Speaker 3>So I'm cleaning it out, moving stuff from documenting it.

693
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:34.440
<v Speaker 3>I get up to this one open spot there's brainshits

694
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:37.480
<v Speaker 3>broke off about seven minute half, they tigh. So I'll

695
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:39.559
<v Speaker 3>get my phone out and document it and break it

696
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:42.840
<v Speaker 3>on off and throw it down, and I go wold

697
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:44.800
<v Speaker 3>up the old logging road down I'm in. I go

698
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:48.079
<v Speaker 3>through this laurel thicket that I've got a trail cut through.

699
00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:51.719
<v Speaker 3>They had stuck a stick through it sideways that we

700
00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:55.480
<v Speaker 3>would have hit me across the chest. So I got

701
00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:58.119
<v Speaker 3>my phone out, documented that and showed that there was

702
00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:01.559
<v Speaker 3>no way to stick fell through that world it throwed

703
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:04.000
<v Speaker 3>it out, come on the other side and sat down.

704
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:07.840
<v Speaker 3>There's a rock comes over and lands out in front

705
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:10.840
<v Speaker 3>of me, out in the old clear cut again. I

706
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:14.039
<v Speaker 3>get my phone out and said, they throw the rock here,

707
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:17.079
<v Speaker 3>and it comes from behind me face takest me at

708
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:20.599
<v Speaker 3>least the iron I have to walk into. So I'm

709
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:23.199
<v Speaker 3>setting there resting and the rock comes down. I go

710
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:26.159
<v Speaker 3>on in and change my stuff and I get back

711
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:30.760
<v Speaker 3>down to where I broke at limb. All there's two

712
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:34.280
<v Speaker 3>fresh limbs landing in the tree that had just been brought.

713
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:38.119
<v Speaker 3>You can see the white bark they walked there. Number one,

714
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:41.280
<v Speaker 3>I would have removed them. With the white shining like

715
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:43.159
<v Speaker 3>it was, there's no way I would have missed it.

716
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:46.920
<v Speaker 3>So I took those two, got my phone documented it.

717
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:49.039
<v Speaker 3>Throw you out and I had to go in this

718
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:52.559
<v Speaker 3>real tight spot. And when I started into it, to

719
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:57.239
<v Speaker 3>hear one growl and my hearing's knocked the beast. It growled,

720
00:39:57.280 --> 00:39:59.119
<v Speaker 3>and I thought, well, you crazy thing. I ain't got

721
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:02.440
<v Speaker 3>time to fool you. So I went on through and

722
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:05.480
<v Speaker 3>as it come out, it ground again, and again I

723
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:08.239
<v Speaker 3>just acted like I didn't hear it. I get ready

724
00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:12.400
<v Speaker 3>to step across the branch. Here's another limb that would

725
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:14.440
<v Speaker 3>have hit me across the bridge of my nose, laid

726
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:16.800
<v Speaker 3>up in across the trail. It wasn't there when I

727
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:19.119
<v Speaker 3>come to you because I had to move it to

728
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:22.920
<v Speaker 3>god across branch. So get my phone out, document that.

729
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Get back down into the main logging road and headed

730
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:30.119
<v Speaker 3>back towards your truck. And there's a locust trade that

731
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:33.159
<v Speaker 3>I had to go under. Here's a mapful tree about

732
00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:35.760
<v Speaker 3>the big round. He's just softball that's been broke over

733
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:38.119
<v Speaker 3>the top of the locust tree while I was up

734
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:41.199
<v Speaker 3>in there, and they've done all that while I was gone.

735
00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:44.079
<v Speaker 3>So me, firstly, I think they just locked to mess

736
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:46.880
<v Speaker 3>with you. Just let's see what he does with this.

737
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:48.320
<v Speaker 3>Let's see what they do with that.

738
00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:52.000
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned it earlier about it usually does one of

739
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:54.239
<v Speaker 2>two things to people. When you have those kind of experiences,

740
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:57.119
<v Speaker 2>you run high tail screaming away you don't want anything

741
00:40:57.159 --> 00:40:59.440
<v Speaker 2>to do with it, or you want to have more

742
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:01.800
<v Speaker 2>experience and you want to keep going out and getting

743
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:05.039
<v Speaker 2>answers and trying to do the research into what these

744
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:07.119
<v Speaker 2>things are and all the questions that we all have.

745
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:10.320
<v Speaker 2>I naively used to think that everybody was in this

746
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:13.480
<v Speaker 2>for the same thing. Everybody wants answers, everybody wants them

747
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:17.239
<v Speaker 2>discovered by science that has evolved. For me, I don't

748
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:21.239
<v Speaker 2>think I'm in the same place today that I was, say,

749
00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:23.800
<v Speaker 2>five or ten years ago in the subject. So let

750
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:25.880
<v Speaker 2>me ask you this, what is the motivation for you

751
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:29.000
<v Speaker 2>that keeps you going out into the woods looking for

752
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:31.400
<v Speaker 2>these things? Is it to have more experiences? Is it

753
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:34.280
<v Speaker 2>to document? Is it to get the final proof that

754
00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:36.920
<v Speaker 2>they're real. What is it for you that drives you

755
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:39.480
<v Speaker 2>to keep going out day after day looking for these things?

756
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:44.159
<v Speaker 3>To be honest, it's just to get answers. When this

757
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:48.119
<v Speaker 3>first started, I told my buddy, I said, I'll kill one,

758
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:52.119
<v Speaker 3>and when that's lander dead on the table, then nobody

759
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:54.760
<v Speaker 3>can say one thing good or the other. Here's your

760
00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:58.800
<v Speaker 3>proof positive, of course being in it. Now. I know

761
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:01.519
<v Speaker 3>now that the government that would take it and it'd

762
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:04.119
<v Speaker 3>be shut up, all that stuff. But then I heard

763
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:08.280
<v Speaker 3>them speak those two times, so my thought changed instantly

764
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:11.840
<v Speaker 3>right there. If these creatures are smart enough to sit

765
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:14.840
<v Speaker 3>and talk back and forth and me listen to them,

766
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:17.719
<v Speaker 3>then I don't need to kill one of them prove

767
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:21.280
<v Speaker 3>that you're real. So my whole thing is, I really

768
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:24.599
<v Speaker 3>don't care about the proof and all of that. I

769
00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:28.960
<v Speaker 3>would just like to know where they come from. Have

770
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:32.320
<v Speaker 3>they always been here that kind of stuff. I would

771
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:35.760
<v Speaker 3>like to know how they know what trail cameras are.

772
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:38.960
<v Speaker 3>They're intelligence. I'll push this with both of mine now

773
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:41.079
<v Speaker 3>of the water. I'll just put it that way. The

774
00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:44.360
<v Speaker 3>smarter than I've ever thought about being to me, I

775
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:47.079
<v Speaker 3>just want to find out those kind of answers we

776
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:50.280
<v Speaker 3>have heard metallic sayings. I've actually got them on the

777
00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:54.039
<v Speaker 3>audio recorders. Is that something that you're doing? Because I've

778
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:58.920
<v Speaker 3>heard cowdies start yelping and screaming, the big foot yells

779
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:02.079
<v Speaker 3>exactly where the kyle these are? We get to walking

780
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:05.639
<v Speaker 3>towards it, we here's something. It sounds like a melt

781
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:08.559
<v Speaker 3>pot being beat on with the woods fun Lots of

782
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:12.000
<v Speaker 3>the kind of questions I've got. Are you using kyldies

783
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:14.840
<v Speaker 3>to hunt with which I've heard a lot of reports

784
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:18.280
<v Speaker 3>that they do. What is that metallic sim? And I

785
00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:21.519
<v Speaker 3>ain't saying they are able to go from dimension to dimension,

786
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:25.559
<v Speaker 3>but if they're able to what's that metallic sim? Because

787
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:28.920
<v Speaker 3>I've heard it quite a few times, and I've talked

788
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:31.880
<v Speaker 3>to a lot of research you shits say they've heard it.

789
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:36.039
<v Speaker 3>So that's the kind of questions I have. I honestly

790
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:41.599
<v Speaker 3>believe you could have the best video in the world

791
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:44.880
<v Speaker 3>and people still won't say that's too clear, There ain't

792
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:47.360
<v Speaker 3>no way it's real. Then if you get a worry

793
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:50.519
<v Speaker 3>one that's too borry, that ain't real. So you're not

794
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:55.119
<v Speaker 3>going to convince the public. Even the government has come

795
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:58.400
<v Speaker 3>out and said UFOs is real, some people still say

796
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:01.760
<v Speaker 3>they ain't, so you're not going to convent people, so

797
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:04.079
<v Speaker 3>I give up on that part. I'd like to try

798
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:07.599
<v Speaker 3>to find out learn as much about them as I can.

799
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:12.639
<v Speaker 3>How do they walk without leaving footprints? Good example is

800
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:16.960
<v Speaker 3>my buddy Bob Trent and Dwit Campabill was down in

801
00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:21.480
<v Speaker 3>I think it was the South Mountains and there at

802
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:25.360
<v Speaker 3>this big old field that's been ploilled up plant for

803
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:27.639
<v Speaker 3>the deer and stuff, and they get to walk in

804
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:30.519
<v Speaker 3>that field just looking for trash. In the middle of

805
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:33.639
<v Speaker 3>the field is one single track. There's no other track.

806
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:37.559
<v Speaker 3>It's forty fifty yards on each side to the edge

807
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:40.199
<v Speaker 3>of the field, and there's one trum dead center in

808
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:43.639
<v Speaker 3>that field. How did they do that? That's the stuff

809
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:46.920
<v Speaker 3>that I'm more interested in, more of the proven it.

810
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:49.480
<v Speaker 3>If I get proof and we get to share it,

811
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:54.440
<v Speaker 3>that would be great. But I'm just looking for Cammon knowledge.

812
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:57.599
<v Speaker 3>Where you're from, has your mom and them that kind

813
00:44:57.599 --> 00:44:58.000
<v Speaker 3>of stuff.

814
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:00.320
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned your groups a couple of times. Is there

815
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:02.480
<v Speaker 2>anything that you want to tell everybody about before we

816
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:03.000
<v Speaker 2>get out of here.

817
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:06.000
<v Speaker 3>If you want to check us out, you can check

818
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:11.119
<v Speaker 3>out sash Watch Recon on YouTube and TikTok. Also the

819
00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:15.840
<v Speaker 3>other group that am in is NCI, North Carolina. Investigate.

820
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:19.239
<v Speaker 3>You can find that as well on TikTok and YouTube.

821
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:21.559
<v Speaker 3>And if you want to check out my stuff, it's

822
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:26.079
<v Speaker 3>Tim Dill's thirteen. You can find it on tiktoking, YouTube, Instagram.

823
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:27.199
<v Speaker 3>That kind of stuff.

824
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Do you have it, folks, you guys, go check it out. Tim,

825
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much for stopping by. I've had a blast

826
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:32.039
<v Speaker 2>talking to you, ma'am.

827
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:36.519
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thank you for having me on. They say

828
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:40.679
<v Speaker 3>you don't have to go home, but you can stay.

829
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:46.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't.

830
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:15.679
<v Speaker 5>Step joy this child, that chart everything?

831
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:17.440
<v Speaker 4>Can you ride back?

832
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:18.480
<v Speaker 6>Right back?

833
00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:25.199
<v Speaker 4>No joy for me? Joy staying right you call it

834
00:46:25.440 --> 00:47:04.760
<v Speaker 4>right away? Still still stay fasts, fat.

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<v Speaker 1>Ducking do.

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<v Speaker 6>Do doss, Still steps US States Things USS
