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Speaker 3: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for

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Ignition with the AEW Fan podcast team. Welcome to everybody.

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You come to talk with us every week about all

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Speaker 4: This is Kelson and this is Chris, who just found

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out I'm not getting paid for this. Dang it. Well,

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madman that he is. Gabe Kid showed up at New

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Japan Dominion this Sunday Attack show to Lumano after his

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match and went on a rant that well, I can't

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repeat more than about three words of and there.

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Speaker 3: The yeah basically explicit, explicitive, aw explicit of New Japan,

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explicitive whatever. Yeah, nobody speaks like Gabe Kid. And to

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think about Japanese, even in stardom, in New Japan and stardom,

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they really allow. Yeah, Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: You can get away with saying a lot, especially if

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you're saying it in English, like yeah, hey, Taka Michinoku's

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theme song and says take is tubing mother effort.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for toning that down. Let's move on.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, is Tucci just the heads up?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Amazon Prime is now hosting a slot, a dedicated channel

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So go and check that out if you have Amazon

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Prime and needs somewhere to watch. Aw.

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Speaker 3: You know what Tucci for clarification here though, And I

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don't know if it's true or not. I like for

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somebody to let us know in the comments, you know,

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if possible. I've heard that this is only available in

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the United States. I've heard that Canada does not get

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this channel right now, at least it doesn't. It may

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have changed since yesterday, but Canada does not get this channel.

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I don't know. Let's see. Uh speaking of Canada.

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Speaker 5: Hello, Hello though from Montreal. This is VOW So there's

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a Canadian promotion that's coming to my w which is

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the C four base in Ottawa. So go check it out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Seaport, it's actually kind of interesting because seapoor actually

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stands for something because the actual name of the promotion

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is four words that I'll begin with the letter C.

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I probably his host should have actually looked it up.

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I did yesterday, but I can't remember. If it's like

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combat competition, I don't know, but you get the idea.

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So I'm looking forward to seeing this man very.

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Speaker 6: And this is Very from beautiful Orlando, Florida. And I'm

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gonna be honest with you, Kelson, I know I got

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to talk about something of the graphic didn't come up here.

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Speaker 7: It is all right.

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Speaker 6: So we are going to juice the discord live chat

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this week. We want to get that going because the

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healthier are I'm sorry, not the Discord, the Reddit live chat,

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because the healthier are Reddit presence is the better for

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the community. So if you are a regular here, either

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on the podcast or playing around in our discord, please

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join us on the Reddit live chat at our slash

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And we are looking to really get a decent amount

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of folks in there because we have some people that

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a bunch of friends sitting on the couch. So we're

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really hoping to get things going on there. So if

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a better place to be, please join us on the

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Speaker 7: Live chat on Reddit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not We're not, you know, discontinuing the discord

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Speaker 6: And there's a lot of folks that used to join

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Speaker 3: Chat in the I think I think you got that.

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Speaker 6: So we're going to segue in the first topic of

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the show. Yep, we'll be I'm going to segue into

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the first topic of the show. And this is something

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that quite a few of us were talking about both

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on aw fan Hub on Reddit and then on our

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discord and the various live chats, and it's the difference

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between the men and the women's own Heart And the

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men's has been quite predictable, although most of the matches

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had storyline explanations everybody versus each other and there's some

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history to all of those. But the women's side has

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been wide open and had quite a few surprises and

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has seemed a lot more interesting because it is a

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lot less predictable. And the question is is that because

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Willow isn't in it, did Willow getting hurt really break

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open that entire tournament? Because without Willow in it, we

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don't have a Mercedes, and without Mercedes, we don't get

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the match we're going to get to see this week.

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you think the women's the women's own has has seemed

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to be more interesting than the men's.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I really liked this question, and I think you

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kind of hit the nail on the head with the

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whole predictability. So like it's when you saw the brackets,

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it's just like, Okay, we're getting to swarp off ray final.

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The matches leading up to it are gonna be good.

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was winning in each match, whereas.

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Speaker 6: Willa was still in it, we would feel the same

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on the women's side if will It was still in it.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't think so. I think even before

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she was out, it was Stilla. You know, like, I'm

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not sure who's gonna win this, especially when there wasn't

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a wild card, which I figured was going to be Mercedes,

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which is who I had winning the whole thing. But

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of a lot of this tournament, which has made it

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more interesting and more fun. Like, yeah, I'm gonna let

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someone jump into some kind of ram.

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Speaker 2: I would argue with Willow in it, it was maybe

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even more open considering everybody was almost on the same

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playing field. With Mercedes in it, we kind of expect

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her to be in the finals. I'm not gonna call

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the same same sort of level, I felt it could

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have gone either way. Hasn't changed much because I still

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am not comfortable calling a winner just yet. But yeah,

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I think that's made it just as interesting because it

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did shake it up, but not to where not not

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for a negative a negative turn.

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Speaker 4: I guess.

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Speaker 3: No, I get what you're saying. Yeah, anybody else with

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Speaker 4: I do?

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Speaker 5: Oh, go ahead, Oh sorry, Nat. I've been saying for

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weeks and weeks and weeks that the wide card would

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be Mercedes, and I've been thrown to the wool saying

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she's not. She's not. But I've been saying in and

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I know Chris has been saying it, and I've said

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that she if she's she was in it. She's in

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it to win it and go to all in against Techla.

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So the winner is Mercedes, two years in a row,

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first time ever.

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Speaker 3: Net Before you jump in, let me just go to

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the chat Conrad EPW show is I think people enjoy unpredictability,

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but I also fall on the same line with what

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was mentioned. I don't think predictability is bad. I am

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happy with how both tournaments have been going so far

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I hate to see anyone get hurt, but I do

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not miss Willow, Superseda ask booking, and I understand what

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you're saying there. I probably wouldn't use those words maybe,

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but I do understand what you're saying. Net let's go

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Speaker 1: I was going to say something about the predictability of

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the tournament as well, but I think there's a bigger

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overall picture to this, and I think that maybe Tony

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the fans and the women's division, and overall, I would

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say that the women are being booked better and that

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has a lot to do with more eyes on the

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women's part of the Owen Tournament.

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Speaker 4: So overall, I like.

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Speaker 1: Willow, but I don't miss Willow. And I also don't

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want to see Mercedes win two years in a row.

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where we are all surprised at whoever wins, rather than

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being able to see it ahead of time. So that's

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Speaker 3: Do you guys think the plan when Willow was put

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in this tournament. Do you think the plan all along

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was that Tony ka an aw knew the Willow was

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not going to be able to perform, and that the

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whole plan was that there was gonna be a wildcard

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because Willow would have to drop out? Or do you

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think it was a surprise and that it just happened organically.

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Speaker 4: I think it was.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, like a bench, it was like Harley Cameron's

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w everybody kind of completed. Everybody else's said, oh god.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Marcus the entertainer and the chat said, in my opinion,

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the men's tournament is predictable because there's been a plan.

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The women's tournament had tournament has been unpredictable, predictable because

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they've been booking on the fly for months. Well here's

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the thing, because we really haven't talked very much about

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the men's side before the Owen was even announced. And

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I'm gonna call it the Owen because it's kind of

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what people are calling it now, even though I have

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always tried to say the Owen Hart Foundation Cup Tournament.

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That's kind of a mouthful. So I'm just the Owen,

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and I mean no disrespect to Owen Hart or his foundation.

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Or Martha Hart. You know, I apologize if you are offended.

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I'm just saying it to save time. So I'm rambling

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and using up all the time I would have saved, okay.

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But anyway, here's the way I look at this with

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the men's tournament, even before the men's tournament was announced

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on this podcast, a couple of months before the tournament

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even happened, you know, it was even a glint in

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Tony kahanzi, were we not saying that that Will Osprey

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was going to win the Owen Hart Tournament and go

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to all In? Doesn't that kind of make it really predictable?

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People want to see Owen you know, Owen Hart, will

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Speaker 4: I don't think.

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Speaker 6: I think people look for things to complain about sometimes,

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and this is the time that Will becomes the guy.

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get a title shot at all In, you have to

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win the Owen So is that predictable? Yeah? I think

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the main reason why it's predictable is because they're at Wembley.

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Speaker 7: This year.

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Speaker 6: If they were at any other venue, say they ran

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this in Las Vegas or New York or whatever, instead

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of going back to Wembley this year, I don't think

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it would have been as predictable. But because it's in Wembley,

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I think Helson kind of to your initial point, everybody

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pretty much knew that if Will was coming back, that's

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where he was going to be the guy, and the

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way to get the title shot he got to win

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the Owen. So the early rounds all had storyline reasons.

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they were all coming off feuds, and even the semi

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final matches all built in the feuds. And now these

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finals you've got the rematch. So I think they did

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the best they could. But given the fact that it

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was going to be at Wembley.

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Speaker 7: There really wasn't a way around this on the.

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Speaker 6: Men's side, which is why I think the women's side

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has been such a breath of fresh air because they

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could just go hand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris, I think you were gonna say something, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. It's like you know, when you go see a

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superhero movie, Like most precent Superman movies, we all knew

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Superman was gonna thwart Lex Luthor and save the world

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at the spoiler alert, Come on, it's been out for

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a while, but we all knew he was gonna win.

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But there were obstacles in his way. He had trials, tribulations,

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he failed a little, you know, Like, that's what even

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though you know the hero is gonna win, it's about

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I mean, there's a reason it's called the hero's journey.

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It's the most classic or one of the most classic

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forms of literature, movie, you know, anything like that. The

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journey is what you want. The journey is what makes

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you care and why when he wins and triumphs, it's like, yeah,

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that's my guy. What turned me off?

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Yeah, what turned me off about the owen

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Hart Tournament this year? I actually has nothing to do

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with Will Osprey and predictability. I agree, it's not a

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bad thing to be predictable, and you know, I feel

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like the majority is we're all rooting for Will. But

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what kind of got me was that the tournament was

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used as a vessel to give Jack Perry and Mark

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Davis another match, and it was used on the right

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on the right side bracket. It was used to throw

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Bendido and Brody King back at Swerve. I don't think

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that was necess it in my opinion. It takes lots

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away from other big contenders for the tournament that could

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have given us the the I guess openness that the

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women have. You know, I'm sorry, but Jack Perry doesn't

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need to be in this type of tournament just yet,

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I don't think, and I'll say the same for Claudio

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and Brodie King Mark Davis. I mean, that match was amazing,

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so it's hard to kind of complain about that one.

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But as far as who he is in the standings

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within AW, I would argue Mark Davis doesn't need to

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be in this tournament either.

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Speaker 3: Very good, good points. Anybody else with thoughts, because I

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have another question for you. If you don't, Valerie and Nett,

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I think you're the only two that haven't chimed in.

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Speaker 5: Should the question calson?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So here's the question. It's really more of an

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observation again reiterating what I said earlier, when before the

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owen Hart Tournament even started on this podcast, everybody was

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saying I don't think there was anybody that didn't say

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that it was Will Osprey's You know what happened last year,

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everybody was saying it was Hangman and him pages and

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the year before that, I believe it was Ricky Starks,

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and everybody was saying that it was Ricky Starks. We

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knew from the beginning. And this is a problem that

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AW has had historically with the booking of the men's division.

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We all knew that Eddie Kingston was going to win

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the first seat too. Nobody was saying anything different. Do

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you see this as a problem where you know, Conrad

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ifw Show and the chat said he doesn't mind the predictability,

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but when you're diconsistent in your predictability, doesn't kind of

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take away from Yeah, the match are good, but the

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story is just too predictable.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a good point.

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Speaker 5: That's a good point.

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Speaker 6: So I'm gonna I want to take a step back

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from a storytelling standpoint. So I have a lot of friends,

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well not a lot of friends. I have several friends

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in the film industry. I have a couple of friends

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who write. I write screenplays for fun. They're good, They're

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not good enough to do professionally, right, I think the

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challenge is what are you using what is this tournament for?

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What are any of these tournaments for. What is the

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story of those tournaments and the story of the tournament

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and the Owen. And I'm actually gonna set Ricky starks

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aside because I thought that Owen was garbage. No offense,

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rick I don't know a problem with Ricky winning, but

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I thought that Owen was garbage. The story of the

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Owen now is this is the redemption they've set up,

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is like, this is the story for the good guy

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to use Chris's metaphor earlier with the Superman stuff for

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their hero's journey to triumph over adversity, to get the title, shot,

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to become champion and bring the belt home from the

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bad guy. I thought last year's storytelling for Hangman Adam

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Page was spectacular. They had done months building up John

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Moxley as the ultimate evil, and I think that's one

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of the key pieces missing from this year's Owen. On

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the men's side, there is no ultimate evil to triumph over.

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They've moved the title around and that's been fun. The

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problem is because of that, there is no ultimate evil

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for this the next winner to triumph over. And I

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think that was actually one of the problems with Mercedes

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winning the Owen last year is she was going to

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take on it was Tony right.

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Speaker 7: Tony was the champion at the time, so.

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Speaker 6: Like the heel one, and we were reactively against her

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from winning against Tony right.

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Speaker 7: So I think that's kind of a problem.

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Speaker 6: And from a narrative standpoint that the just is like,

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what is the story here, what is the three acts

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for doing? What is the payoff? What is that final act?

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What are you trying to reward the fans with? And

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Tony's kind of fallen into routines where that's that's the

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narrative that this tournament is for. If you remove that

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and it's a scattershot, you really prevent yourself from building

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into all in with that narrative and that story of

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who are you going to crown as the guy and

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the lady to be your champs. I think if this

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occurred at a different part of the year, Kelson, they

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should just open it up wide.

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Speaker 7: But because of this.

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Speaker 6: Leading into a championship match of the Owen, it has

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to tie into their overarching storytelling that will peak it

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all in and that can be a benefit, but it

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can also be a negative. Again, if you don't have

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that big ultimate evil that the good guy's triumphing on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I do want to go to the chat.

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Marcus Entertainer said, this is not a problem for me

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talking about the you know, the whole owen Hart thing.

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I like when things make sense, and you know, whether

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it's predictable or not, it does make sense obviously, and

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that he did correct me. Uh, Brian Danielson won the

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Owen before Hangman, not Ricky Starks. Look, Mariah May won

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the Owen? Did she not to go on to All

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In to face Tony Storm? That was that was a

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little predictable. But going back to the women's side, before

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the Owen started, who would we pick to win the

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owen Hart Tournament and go to All In and represent,

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you know, the owen Hart Tournament winner going against the

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world champion. If I'm not mistaken, A lot of people

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were saying, now it's winsor and that did not work

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out well for hers. She was crushed in the first round.

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Speaker 4: I picked.

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Speaker 3: Me too, I think before Mercedes was.

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Speaker 5: Even before she was the wild say, I had her

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as my as my pick.

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Speaker 3: Now we're gonna be talking real soon about this Hazuki

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in Mercedes match tomorrow night. But one of the things

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that I wanted to point out with the owen Hart

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Tournament this year, and well, just really talking about Maya World.

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She came in as a basically a wild card and one,

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so there you go. Of course that was probably you know,

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with the unfortunate passing of her brother May Rest in peace.

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You know, that was probably something that was not planned.

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But I'm glad they did that. That was special. But

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the other thing is, well, we did the prediction poll

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on the aw AM subreddit for Azuki versus per Sepony,

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Kazuki only got thirteen percent of the votes. Everybody, well,

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eighty seven percent of the people picked Persephone, and there

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was a swerve thrown in there. I just have to

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look at the men's you know, owen Hart and the

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Women's Own Heart, and there's just so much more compelling

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stories in the Women's Own Heart. You know, I guess

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Marcus Entertainer says that he picked Athena, But I do

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want to go over. Go ahead and let's talk about

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tomorrow night's match between Hazuki and Mercedes Monet. Now, I

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know a couple of you have already said, Valerie being

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one of them that you picked Mercedes Bonet for the start,

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and I just said Azuki had only thirteen percent of

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the votes in her first match in the tournament against Persephone.

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What are you guys thinking about this match? Who's winning?

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Speaker 4: So I'm sick?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, uh, I'm picking. I'm picking Hazuki for this one.

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The last time they met, which is an amazing match,

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by by the way, Mercedes Monette took it, and I

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think that leaves it open for Hazuki to win this time.

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Something that makes me believe in this more is I

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don't believe we have a reason to root for Mercedes Monette.

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I don't think we saw any bit of crash out

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from her. She lost the TVs title and went off TV,

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losing I believe two or three more championships while she

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was off TV. Technically she still has the owen Hart

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Foundation belt, but you know it is by that regard.

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Is her belt collector run done? Obviously she doesn't have

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the mall, but she still has one out of the

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twelve or thirteen that she had. She's still not much

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of a changed woman from before her hiatus. I just

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don't see why. And I'm a huge mercaderes mark. I

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love Mercedes Monnet, but I just don't feel like we

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have a reason to root for her against a woman's

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champion at all, in which I would assume would still

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be techla. I think that that has me picking Hazuki

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on this tune.

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Speaker 3: She let me ask you this because there's something that

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you said that kind of resonated with me. Do you

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think that Mercedes Monette needs to lose the owen Hart

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Tournament belt in the ring so that she now has

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a complete reset? In other words, if she were to

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win the owen Hart Tournament, does that kind of make

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her fall from grace a little bit less impactful? I

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guess is the best way I could think to say it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, even if you didn't put her in her

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previous role as as a belt collector, I think I

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still would have liked to see some growth and some

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losses to kind of shake her feathers up and give

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her a bit of a redemption arc. You know, when

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Willow was doing the whole comeback killer thing, I thought

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that was going to trigger Mercedes sort of redemption. Maybe

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she you know, gets sad and you know, kind of

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get to give her an avenue for an organic babyface turn,

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which I believe at some point is coming. But in

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the current role, the only thing she said in her

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match against Alex Windsor was that she's in therapy now,

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which I was like, okay, you know, maybe she is.

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She is turning the corner, and then she went on

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to attack Azuki and Persephone. So you know, I think

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we still have the same Mercedes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, there was one word you used there, Tunci, redemption.

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Let's not forget that this story doesn't end it all in.

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We still have redemption sandwich between Forbidden Door and all In.

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So and a lot of people when I see people

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talking about aw Forbidden Door, do Japan cmll stardom Forbidden Door,

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I'll just say forbidden Door, they seem to forget. They

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kind of forget that there's another pay per view between

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Forbidden Door and all In. They say, what's gonna happen

473
00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:23,799
at Forbidden Door leads to all In? We still have redemption,

474
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,720
Mercedes monet at redemption that could be a big story

475
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,359
if they have an angle for it.

476
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 2: Just saying sure that, yeah, there is two months, two

477
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,039
and a half months, two months, two months and a

478
00:28:38,079 --> 00:28:41,480
week till all In, so a lot can happen. But

479
00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:44,720
I mean that's That's kind of how I see the

480
00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:47,160
Mercedes path and this match.

481
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,279
Speaker 3: I'm really interested to hear other people's thoughts on this match,

482
00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:55,839
Hazuki versus Mercedes, Monett, what's the story? What would you

483
00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:56,680
like to see?

484
00:28:57,279 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 4: I'm sticking with Mercedes wedding. I still think she will win,

485
00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:05,279
and but this is one of those where I would

486
00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:09,960
be I'm not going to be just Holly Craft shocked

487
00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:14,960
if a Zuki pulls off the victory. And like Tuci said,

488
00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:20,599
their previous match was freaking amazing, like genuine match of

489
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,240
the Year contender. I hope, I hope they're given a

490
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,720
good twenty minutes and just you know, let them go

491
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,319
all out because those two are fantastics, I have great chemistry.

492
00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:36,680
So this is one of those I'm just really looking

493
00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:41,960
forward to the match. And the result is the result.

494
00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:44,559
Speaker 3: Okay, anybody else want any thoughts on this match?

495
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 5: He's winning Mercedes, of course, I haven't seen a match

496
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:54,519
between between them, so I'm excited to see it and

497
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,240
finally to have like a better opinion of a Zuki

498
00:29:59,559 --> 00:30:04,759
versus Mercedes than I had with Persephone. So I'm looking

499
00:30:04,839 --> 00:30:07,519
forward to it. But Mercedes is winning it, not.

500
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: Do you have any thoughts on this.

501
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,799
Speaker 1: I think Hazuki is gonna win, and I would like

502
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,240
to see a little bit of a redemption with Mercedes.

503
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,720
I think that if Hazuki does win, this is the

504
00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:28,200
perfect opportunity for Mercedes to really lose it, and I'd

505
00:30:28,279 --> 00:30:32,680
like her to come back, But with her coming back

506
00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:37,039
behaving and being nice, I would like her to actually

507
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:44,119
be working against everyone and you know, do something horrendous

508
00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:47,559
at some point in the future to somebody. I actually

509
00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:50,680
don't care who it is. I like Mercedes more when

510
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,599
she's a heel. I think she plays into that very

511
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,279
very well. You still like her when she's a heel,

512
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:03,359
and I think that she can do something where she

513
00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:07,920
really loses her mind and acts nice but is not

514
00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:12,039
really being nice. And when that plays out, a lot

515
00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:15,039
of people are going to be shocked because she acted

516
00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:19,160
so friendly and helpful, but she's really not. So I

517
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:22,559
think Hazuki's going to win this one and there's going

518
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,559
to be some really big fallout from it. So that's

519
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,319
what I would like to see there.

520
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,039
Speaker 3: You've been early silent.

521
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:37,079
Speaker 6: Yeah, I talk a lot, but Tucci mentioning that the

522
00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:42,000
therapy thing, I've just been thinking here if Mercedes loses

523
00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:45,160
and we get the total crash out that I was

524
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,000
hoping to see at the end of her belt Collector run.

525
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,599
I want to see her in therapy, and I want

526
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,400
her therapists to be Harley Cameron. I want us to

527
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,960
find out that, in addition to speaking Chinese, being a ventriloquist,

528
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,359
playing guitar, singing, acting, being a model and professional wrestler,

529
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,160
she's also a licensed therapist. And I want to see

530
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,200
the two of them together, and I want to see

531
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,000
them playing off the good evil much like Christian and

532
00:32:13,119 --> 00:32:17,079
Cope do. And the fact that they're selling the Mercedes

533
00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:20,640
Monet puppets six months too late, but they're doing that

534
00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:24,200
at at shows makes me wonder if that that's something

535
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,319
we might get to see.

536
00:32:26,359 --> 00:32:27,359
Speaker 4: Very interesting.

537
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

538
00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:33,599
Speaker 2: There was a time which actually this is exactly what

539
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,920
I was thinking as well, not so much the therapy thing,

540
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,880
but a partnership between Harley and Mercedes.

541
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 7: Yep, they place so well off each other.

542
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: There was a time together.

543
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: There was a time where Harley kept asking women in

544
00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:50,960
the in the locker room to be her trainer, and

545
00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:53,119
she kept bouncing around and no one ever wanted to

546
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,680
do it. I thought that that's where that was leading,

547
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,839
and that would have given her a perfect, you know,

548
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:04,079
perfect and organic babyface, uh kind of turn. Maybe not

549
00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:07,400
even babyface, but you know, at least something to to

550
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,480
get her back on in people's good graces.

551
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: It'll Berry. I like your idea. However, I don't want

552
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:16,799
to see Harley as the therapist. I want to see

553
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:19,400
puppet Monet as a as a therapist because.

554
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:24,519
Speaker 6: Well, I think that that's part of the therapy is

555
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:27,359
she's going to have to speak as puppet Monet and

556
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,400
she'll talk to herself and have to bait, you know. Anyway,

557
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,799
I got all sorts of ideas. That's why I don't

558
00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:33,559
get paid to do this.

559
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 4: I love the.

560
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 6: Obviously they're not going to do anything I suggested because

561
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,559
it's ridiculous, But I think it would.

562
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 7: Be like.

563
00:33:42,839 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 4: Steel Berry's therapy idea.

564
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:50,079
Speaker 3: Yes, make make the royalty checks, were you know, using

565
00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:55,640
the idea be able to and I don't give Barry.

566
00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:58,240
I don't give Burry. I don't know.

567
00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:58,599
Speaker 7: Ever.

568
00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:01,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, one of the things that people have

569
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,480
brought up and correctly so, I mean you can't avoid

570
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:11,280
it is that on Saturday, well it's actually Saturday afternoon

571
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,559
in Japan, But it's like two o'clock in the morning

572
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:17,719
Saturday morning in the United States Eastern time. Azuki is

573
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:25,519
going to be participating at Stardom's The Conversion twenty twenty

574
00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:29,199
six pay per view, and some people will have a

575
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,400
thought that because she's participating in that pay per view,

576
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,599
that she will not be winning this match. But you

577
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:39,960
know who else is also on that pay per view,

578
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:46,440
Starlight Kid. So I have to say this right out

579
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,719
the bat. Next week. Next week is to Go Home

580
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,719
Show for Go Home Dynamite for Forbidden Door. I think

581
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,880
you've got to bring Starlight Kid to have a match

582
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,400
and show we're off and let her do her thing.

583
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,760
But the question here is basically, how many of you

584
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,480
are familiar with Starlight Kid and do you think that

585
00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:17,079
Starlight Kid actually has any chance of winning against Tecla

586
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:22,639
at Forbidden Door? And what's the story here? There's a

587
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:23,960
ongoing story.

588
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,199
Speaker 7: Of Starlight Yeah.

589
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:27,599
Speaker 4: I think.

590
00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:33,039
Speaker 2: As far as as far as Joshi's go I think

591
00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:38,639
she kind of encapsulates the speed, the strength, at the

592
00:35:39,159 --> 00:35:43,719
brutality that a Joshi can exhibit awesome in the ring.

593
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,960
And as far as the story, I did a little

594
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,760
bit of a deep Dive. Tecla actually took a hiatus

595
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:59,800
from Stardom in early twenty twenty four, right after DDM disbanded,

596
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,639
she came back to join Oto Tie. Starlight Kid at

597
00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:07,480
the time was a part of Oto Tie all for

598
00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:13,239
about thirty minutes before they pretty much jumped Starlight Kid

599
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,840
and kicked her out of the faction. Right, so exactly,

600
00:36:18,159 --> 00:36:22,360
their early matches are very fun and very fast. So

601
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:26,119
as far as what might go on inside the ring

602
00:36:26,639 --> 00:36:29,639
at Forbidden Door, that's very exciting to me.

603
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,159
Speaker 4: Yeah.

604
00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:32,559
Speaker 3: One of the things I wanted to point out is

605
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,559
aw I forget who said it, but they did say

606
00:36:36,639 --> 00:36:42,960
that Starlight Kid has defeated Tecla once. It's actually twice.

607
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,920
It's actually twice. I believe they said that on Dynamite.

608
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,679
They were incorrect. I only got to see one of

609
00:36:48,679 --> 00:36:52,239
those matches. It went about seven minutes, I would say,

610
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,320
not a really good match in my opinion, basically was

611
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,960
in I believe the match I saw was from twenty

612
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,199
twenty two. This is before either of them were with

613
00:37:03,559 --> 00:37:08,440
Oaito Tie, and again, like Tucci said, Starling Kidd was

614
00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:11,559
kicked out thirty minutes later. Teckler was brought in Oato

615
00:37:11,639 --> 00:37:16,599
Tie A couple months after that disbanded. Well they didn't

616
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:22,480
really disband, but they they morphed. They became Hate and

617
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:25,639
of course Hate is one of the biggest factions in

618
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,760
women's wrestling in the world. One other thing I want

619
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:34,239
to say about Oaito Tie. Thunder Rosa was Aado Tie

620
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,000
for two years, and so is Jamie Hayter. Keep that

621
00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:39,639
in the back of your mind when it comes to

622
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:45,239
maybe something going on there. Ruby Soho was also Oaito Tie,

623
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,719
but she was only in there for I want to say,

624
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,360
two months. A lot of turnover at Olaito Tie.

625
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, they actually kicked Starlight Kid out for not being

626
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,280
as brutal as all the others.

627
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 3: And by the way, that same day he remember you

628
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,360
already said it, like Starlight Kid got kicked out of

629
00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:08,199
Awaito Tie. Tekla was brought in and then Starlight King

630
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:13,559
immediately went onto Neogenesis where she is today and she

631
00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:17,440
is the leader of Neogenesis. So there is a lot

632
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,559
of story here between Starlight Kidd and Tecla.

633
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 7: They need a video package.

634
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 3: Well, I tell you one of the things about that

635
00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:29,079
I like about Starlight Kid. She tends to get brutalized

636
00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:34,519
a lot loses. Well that's kind of a shtick in stardom.

637
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:39,360
Stardom is not predictable. Stardom is not predictable. You have,

638
00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:43,679
you know, clear winners on paper that they end up losing.

639
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,960
I mean, Sayaka Carrara just won the uh I believe

640
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,920
it was in April, wasn't it. She won the Stardom

641
00:38:51,960 --> 00:39:00,159
World Championship over Sayakamatani and Sayaka Karara is a rookie. Well,

642
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,760
based on Stardom standards, the rookie is anybody under twenty

643
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:08,119
years old or somebody with less than three years experience,

644
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:13,239
which Carrara does fall into that. But anyway, but the

645
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,679
thing with Starlight Kid is that with her mask, that

646
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,960
mask is a target. Techla actually and wanted the match

647
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,880
that I did see, did try to rip Starlight Kid's

648
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,719
mask off. I fully expect to see that at Forbidden

649
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,440
Door or probably if Techlan, if Starli Kids shows up

650
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:35,719
say it Dynamite next week. I kind of think that

651
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:42,239
there's a really good chance that we'll see Tecla or

652
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,280
the Triangle Madness attack and try to take Starlight Kid's mask.

653
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,079
She has been on masks multiple times, but you don't

654
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:52,719
see your face. But one of the things about Starlight

655
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,519
Kid also, and I think Tucci'll you'll back me up

656
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:58,480
on this, is that she's one of the few stardom

657
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:03,639
wrestlers that well. She bleeds quite a bit. She'll do

658
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,000
the hardcore stuff, and I don't think a lot of

659
00:40:07,039 --> 00:40:09,039
it is blading. I think it's because of the mask.

660
00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:10,840
She ends up getting her face kicked in a lot.

661
00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:13,199
Speaker 7: You know why she wears the mask.

662
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 3: Because she's just too cute for anything else.

663
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,079
Speaker 7: That's actually it's actually Bandido.

664
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:23,639
Speaker 3: It's Bandido. Mm well, actually she's working. She's working.

665
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,039
Speaker 7: She's only four lipstick on. That's it. The tan has

666
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:29,679
it's all. It's all.

667
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 6: It's pro tan they put on before the show. He's

668
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,519
not actually very pasty.

669
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 3: She's only four to eleven. So this is one of

670
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,119
a few matches where Techle's going to have a height advantage.

671
00:40:38,639 --> 00:40:42,559
Speaker 7: That's how tall Bandido is. He's a logo. Yeah, yeah,

672
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,239
it's a joke. It's not actually that short.

673
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,519
Speaker 4: He is a solid five fives a loga. I think

674
00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:52,199
it's actually like about five.

675
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 7: I think he is about five seven. Back on toast,

676
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:55,920
Sorry about that bad joke.

677
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,079
Speaker 3: Cal Yeah, yeah, we will have a discussion out for

678
00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:00,480
the ship.

679
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 7: That's a demerit, demerit.

680
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 4: I'll slay with the Starlight Kid. I've only seen a

681
00:41:10,039 --> 00:41:14,599
handful of matches, but she's one of those. I think

682
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:20,519
she'll get instantly over to just where she's got. I mean,

683
00:41:21,039 --> 00:41:24,159
I hate to say it, she's got she's got that

684
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:27,480
something you can't quite you know what the French call

685
00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:29,159
is certain, I don't know.

686
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:31,639
Speaker 7: What Sena said is what you're looking for?

687
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, help us out of her gallery.

688
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 4: It actually does mean I don't know what.

689
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 2: It really doesn't take long to fall in love with

690
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:46,599
her style in the ring. Something also interesting on this, Uh,

691
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,840
it's not so much. I wouldn't put this as a

692
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:57,840
feud or the match itself, I guess is against Starlight Kid,

693
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,880
of course, but the real feud here is Tecla and Tarokata,

694
00:42:02,159 --> 00:42:03,239
the president of Stardom.

695
00:42:03,679 --> 00:42:09,559
Speaker 4: I mean, this is really Starlight Kid defending stardom almost

696
00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:15,000
more than challenging for the AEW title. Like obviously you

697
00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:20,199
know she's challenging, but like that's not goal one. I

698
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,559
think for her it's more the disrespect Techlas, so like

699
00:42:25,519 --> 00:42:26,880
she can't let that slide.

700
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:28,639
Speaker 3: You know what I would love to see since the

701
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,960
Stardom is having their Conversion pay per view on Saturday.

702
00:42:33,519 --> 00:42:37,400
I would love to see sky Blue and Julia Hart

703
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,440
show up there and tear it up and then get

704
00:42:39,559 --> 00:42:46,119
added to the five Star Grand Prix because Stardom has

705
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,719
four wrestlers that would normally be in the five Star

706
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:55,000
gram Pee pre that are on excursion in the well

707
00:42:55,559 --> 00:42:59,440
the United States and Canada and Mexico and in North America,

708
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:02,360
and they are not going to participate in the five

709
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,639
Star Grand Prix. So this would be a really great

710
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,280
time for aw to send a couple of their wrestlers.

711
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,559
And I really do believe sky Blue and Julia Harder

712
00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:14,199
to two that make most sense because it does feed

713
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,800
into that whole Tecla and taro Ocotta feud.

714
00:43:19,559 --> 00:43:22,159
Speaker 7: That's why they lost. To free him up and do

715
00:43:22,159 --> 00:43:24,719
a little talent exchange here on the DL.

716
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,159
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna see a lot of talent exchanges,

717
00:43:28,199 --> 00:43:30,559
you know, Stardom has We're going to talk about this

718
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:34,360
in the next segment. Stardam has a strong relationship with

719
00:43:34,639 --> 00:43:39,360
mlw CMLL, but there's so many visa issues these days.

720
00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:43,159
I mean, Gape Kidd. We talked about Gay Kidd earlier

721
00:43:43,199 --> 00:43:46,119
in the show. Correct me if I'm wrong. Chris, but

722
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,480
Gape Kidd gave the impression that he may not be

723
00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:51,920
able to make it to Forbidden Door because he's having

724
00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:52,880
visa issues.

725
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of those. It's a really great area

726
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:05,440
for him. He may make it, but he may be delayed,

727
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:10,119
you know, an extra month just as easily like he's in.

728
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,840
It's a weird limbo area for a lot of people

729
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,559
where you know, maybe it'll get pushed through or maybe

730
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:23,400
they'll just be stuck waiting. Yeah, vs shoes are And

731
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,280
I think a large part of that is you have

732
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,239
so much going on in the world right now. You know,

733
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:32,039
you've got the World Cup, You've got all that Kid's crazy.

734
00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:33,679
Speaker 7: It has nothing to do with it, Chris, We all know.

735
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. But back on to Starlight Kid. Does anybody see

736
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,960
Starlight Kid winning against Tecla? I mean, is it is it?

737
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,039
Is it a good story? You know, that's a secondary

738
00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:49,719
question for Starlight Kid to win.

739
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 5: I have never seen Starlight Kid.

740
00:44:54,639 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 3: Well, you're missing a lot, Valerie. I would definitely suggest going.

741
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,480
I'm gonna tell you one thing that I hope that

742
00:45:00,519 --> 00:45:03,920
they do is give her her entrance. Starlight Kidd has

743
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,079
one of the best entrances you know when I look

744
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:10,880
at entrances, I look at Starlight Kid. Sorry a new

745
00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:14,719
of course, Saya Kamatani, and that's a play. Starlight Kid

746
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,320
has a really fun entrance. And to think about Starlight

747
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,800
Kad being small and very youthful looking even under the mask,

748
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,239
and she's she's just over with the kids. I mean,

749
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:27,400
kids love her.

750
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 7: The one that comes out with the minds.

751
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 3: No, no, no, she comes out wearing a two masks.

752
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:41,679
She comes out with two masks on. She takes off

753
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,360
one mask and then of course she's got another mask

754
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,039
underneath it. She gets in the ring, but she just

755
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:49,320
has this really cool entrance.

756
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,079
Speaker 7: It's a really fun vibe.

757
00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's just it's just that. I mean,

758
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,039
if you see this on the screen, you know that

759
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:01,320
mask is are obviously the mask he wrestles in. The

760
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,239
other one is a little bit bulkier with I would

761
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,639
I would more describe it like a Juician thunder, likeer

762
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,320
mask mix mixed with ultra man.

763
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 6: She should she should have that mask, take that off

764
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,760
and have a sting mask and then take a sting

765
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,239
mask to this to her.

766
00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 3: There you go, I comes out of their heads.

767
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:26,519
Speaker 7: Like seventeen mask. Yeah, you know, he.

768
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,079
Speaker 3: Says, like seventeen sizes too bigger heads. She spends like

769
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:31,519
the first half hour just rip a mask.

770
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,519
Speaker 7: Like everyone's like, all right, come on, let's get it

771
00:46:33,519 --> 00:46:35,920
over with, lady. Let's go. We gotta wrestler.

772
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 3: The Mexican wrestler that Mill Mascaris used to used to

773
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,719
come out wearing several masks.

774
00:46:42,519 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 7: Mass scaris, so you should have masks.

775
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:50,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were like seven of them at least to

776
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,400
the bring. Anyway back to Starlight Kid. Anybody seeing Starlight

777
00:46:54,519 --> 00:46:59,880
Kid winning this match? No, I'd love him.

778
00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 6: When Matt comes in and says, yes, what do you

779
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:04,719
think do we lose that?

780
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,079
Speaker 3: I think that.

781
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was having computer issues. I'm sorry.

782
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: No, I don't see her winning, but I see it

783
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,599
being a very very good match.

784
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 4: So I'm looking forward to seeing it.

785
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,199
Speaker 3: But I don't think so if Starlight Kid loses this match,

786
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,320
which I do believe that she will, but I think

787
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,880
it will be a great match. I think this match

788
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,719
is one of those matches is going to set up

789
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,760
something for redemption. I really do. I think that this

790
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,000
is something that's going to set up something for redemption

791
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,000
and the five Star GP. This is a match that's

792
00:47:38,039 --> 00:47:40,199
got a lot of story to it, and I dare

793
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,280
to say, of all the matches that have been made

794
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,800
for Forbiden Door so far, this one has got the

795
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,440
most uh chattered about it. I really do.

796
00:47:50,199 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: I agree, Sorry wise, this is my most anticipated I'm

797
00:47:53,639 --> 00:47:56,239
a big startup fan, so I guess that also plays

798
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:00,199
into it. But look very much looking forward to this one.

799
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: All right. To be honest with you, Of all the

800
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,039
matches that forbidden Door, this one here is really the

801
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:08,800
one that I care about the most and the others

802
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,840
like because the will Osprey and we're going to talk

803
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,480
about will Osprey and swear Strickland shortly. Uh, It's just

804
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,920
it's gonna be a great match. But I just don't

805
00:48:18,159 --> 00:48:21,400
think will Osprey is gonna lose. And when when When

806
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,039
something is that predictable, it takes away from it for

807
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,639
But I want to move on because on Thursday night

808
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:34,039
we have Global Wars Cincinnati. The women that you see

809
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:40,559
here are the international participants in Global Wars Cincinnati. You

810
00:48:40,679 --> 00:48:46,360
have Roha and you have Shuri. You have Olympia from CMLL,

811
00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:50,760
Micah from stardom, and Hanneko from start to stardom. There

812
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,719
are no men international men at CMLL is pretty much

813
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,119
other than Olympia. CMLL is pretty much absent. Dow Japan

814
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:04,800
was never part of this, so it's basically a women's thing,

815
00:49:05,199 --> 00:49:08,599
you know, it's kind of it's got several matches, but uh,

816
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:12,000
there are real visa issues. I mean, look at a

817
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,519
w H. I think even Kyle Fletcher even posted today

818
00:49:16,599 --> 00:49:19,639
said something like, does anybody have Accea Sero's phone number?

819
00:49:20,679 --> 00:49:25,320
Vis Mortos is having visa issues. When is the last

820
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:31,639
time you saw Commander or or Mascaraderata? You know, these

821
00:49:31,679 --> 00:49:38,320
guys that have been part of the aw lore stories

822
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,800
and whatnot missed the co I mean, they're just not

823
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,719
around Forbidden Door. I mean Tom a Hero is going

824
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,519
to be Is he the only Japanese you know, participant

825
00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:53,559
from you know, New Japan participanting Forbidden Door? Because he's

826
00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:56,880
the he's in the States? I mean, are are you

827
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:57,920
guys worried about this?

828
00:49:58,920 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 7: Yeah?

829
00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 6: I mean I can't hold Cony Khan accountable here because

830
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,320
this is a state department thing, and I mean in

831
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,280
the United States, we've seen that's where it was going.

832
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:16,119
It's by design and unfortunately we're going to get, you know,

833
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:17,679
screwed out of some really fun stuff.

834
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 7: Likely because of it.

835
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind of nervous about Starlight Kidd and Azuki.

836
00:50:20,679 --> 00:50:25,239
Should Kuzuki win and Starlight Kidd is scheduled for Forbidden Door,

837
00:50:25,559 --> 00:50:28,320
I'm hoping that this is going to happen. You know,

838
00:50:28,679 --> 00:50:33,559
I really want to see Gabe Kid. You know, I

839
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:37,519
don't know. I mean, it is what it is. They

840
00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:42,840
are going to be deciding. I'm not real sure about

841
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,440
this one here they're going to be deciding, I get.

842
00:50:45,519 --> 00:50:47,320
I would assume early in the show they're gonna be

843
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,960
picking the twelve men. I guess there's five on each

844
00:50:51,039 --> 00:50:52,880
side that are going to need to be firmed up

845
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:53,320
for the.

846
00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:54,599
Speaker 7: Is that the first segment.

847
00:50:55,519 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 3: Did they announce They didn't announce it, but I would

848
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,840
assume it would be earlier in the show because it's

849
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,239
probably going to be the main event, because you're going

850
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,639
to have a six on six match at Dynamite tomorrow

851
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,159
night between the two teams that are selected, and then

852
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,079
ten days from now, you're from then you're gonna have

853
00:51:13,159 --> 00:51:17,079
the steel Cage match with the same two teams. I am,

854
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,679
I'm sorry. I don't care at all about this whole story,

855
00:51:22,199 --> 00:51:25,840
and I mean, I don't know about you, but I

856
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,360
really like Mark Briscoe, but let's face it, he's a

857
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,920
transitional challenger. I mean I don't give him any shot

858
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:37,559
of winning. And speaking to predictability, Mark Brisco's team has

859
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:40,039
got to win a forbidden doors, so he gets that shot.

860
00:51:40,159 --> 00:51:43,159
So what are we doing here?

861
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:47,519
Speaker 4: He's right. I have a theory about the match tomorrow night.

862
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,960
I think it will lead to at least one, most

863
00:51:52,039 --> 00:51:57,679
likely two people on Team brisco getting taken out, and

864
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,840
then he and Briscoe and Orange Cassidy have to call

865
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,760
their old friends from Pyofs and we get hiok go

866
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:14,960
to and the greatest wrestler, slash bar owner, slash Tourism ambassador,

867
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:21,639
slash DVD producer The Man John Moxley fears the most.

868
00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:24,199
Stay it with me yoo.

869
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 7: Who oh No. I don't know who that.

870
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 4: Is, but it'll probably be Yi.

871
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 7: The dude comes in gonna shove. No, You're never gonna

872
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:46,400
get rid of.

873
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 3: Us. There's a guy called World Famous Man on Reddit

874
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,440
who has made and probably been banned. Literally I think

875
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,599
he's up to his World Fast Band version thirteen. I

876
00:53:01,639 --> 00:53:04,840
think that's this is literally the truth and all he

877
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,920
does one hundred percent of the time he's come on

878
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,079
our discord, he posts all this just he's like a

879
00:53:10,159 --> 00:53:15,880
Yoshi Tatsoo super fan. He's he can't be legit. You know,

880
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:20,039
I think he's just pulling. But he's the dumbest person

881
00:53:20,199 --> 00:53:23,800
I've ever met. He's he just uses, he creates. He's

882
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:32,400
created countless subreddits where he's trashed me personally and trashed

883
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,960
several subreddits. It's pretty bad.

884
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:40,079
Speaker 7: What's your fantasy team here for Mark Briscoe?

885
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:48,119
Speaker 1: For Mark Briscoe, fantasty? Yeah, let's see. I think Orange, Cassidy,

886
00:53:50,039 --> 00:53:57,679
Roger Strong She of course that's three. Who else does

887
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:58,719
Mark brisco have?

888
00:54:00,599 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 4: Kyle?

889
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 7: I love Kyle?

890
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 3: Maybe because remember MGF has Kevin Knight.

891
00:54:12,119 --> 00:54:15,559
Speaker 1: Well that's right, but I never told you all this.

892
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:22,519
I think that that Kevin Knight is secretly still friends

893
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,960
with Speedball and that they're they're gonna do some elaborate

894
00:54:27,039 --> 00:54:32,719
thing later to somebody or the entire don callis family.

895
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:38,280
Because I was watching Collision on Saturday, and at some

896
00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:44,519
point Kevin Knight, who was on commentary, slipped up and said,

897
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:49,079
come on Speedball, and he caught himself really quick and

898
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,400
changed it, and I, you know, I had to replay

899
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,440
it later and I said he was actually cheering for

900
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,119
for Mike Bailey, and so it gave me the theory,

901
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,480
you know, I love Wild Wrestling series, that they actually

902
00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:06,599
aren't they aren't broken up, and that Kyle is going

903
00:55:06,679 --> 00:55:09,960
to work from within to destroy the don Kallis family.

904
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,679
Speaker 6: So Darby Allen is just a sacrifice to the broader

905
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,599
scheming that I think so.

906
00:55:17,039 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 4: I think so.

907
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: Damage, Yeah, I think so.

908
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 3: Just waiting to see Kevin Knight's new persona, his new

909
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:31,679
gimmick is the male.

910
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,599
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, see, and you ever notice how slowly he walks.

911
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:38,960
I think it's all.

912
00:55:39,519 --> 00:55:46,559
Speaker 4: It's all a sad he was flying high. Just wait

913
00:55:46,599 --> 00:55:47,320
and see.

914
00:55:50,159 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 6: Then Darby, oh man, it was just a pawn in

915
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:53,679
your bigger plans.

916
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's gonna be like you know.

917
00:55:59,559 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, all thats Darby just comes out racist and mic

918
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:08,440
and Darby in Game of Life.

919
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I think.

920
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,559
Speaker 7: Bro I made sure you were on a protected stretcher,

921
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:13,920
you know.

922
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:15,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

923
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,039
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is right up there with me thinking Harley

924
00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:22,800
Cameron should be Mercedes therapist.

925
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well you know, look, look.

926
00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: I Lovelson makes that sound.

927
00:56:36,199 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 3: My point is here, though, this is this whole conversation

928
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,639
has been entertainment, entertaining, but it's kind of telling. We've

929
00:56:42,679 --> 00:56:45,920
got Mark Bristow's graphic up on the on the screen.

930
00:56:46,639 --> 00:56:52,519
The whole section is about Mark Briscoe. Barry is trying

931
00:56:52,519 --> 00:56:53,559
to eat his glasses.

932
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm doing the clicking thing again.

933
00:56:56,639 --> 00:57:01,119
Speaker 3: I know that. Yeah, sorry, I was like, what is

934
00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:02,199
that noise?

935
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 6: That's why I have the video so you can catch

936
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:06,920
me when I'm doing stuff.

937
00:57:08,159 --> 00:57:11,679
Speaker 3: But the whole thing is we're talking about Mark Briscoe here,

938
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,039
but we're not talking about Mark brisco That's that's the

939
00:57:15,119 --> 00:57:15,960
point here.

940
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 6: You know, they got the match first. Like I think

941
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,000
you hit the nail on Ed Kelson. This is a

942
00:57:22,039 --> 00:57:26,039
temporary program to get to wherever they're going. I don't

943
00:57:26,039 --> 00:57:29,159
think it's worth people really wasting a lot of time

944
00:57:29,199 --> 00:57:31,239
and effort. As long as it's fun, that's what's going

945
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:32,960
to matter until they get to whatever. And I think

946
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,440
this stuff you said before about Forbidden Door a lot

947
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,760
of the times it's kind of a throwaway pay per

948
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,480
view outside the normal continuity. They changed it last year,

949
00:57:42,519 --> 00:57:44,320
and I think it's good they got a couple of matches,

950
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,800
but you know, this is one of the throw in

951
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,079
some new Japan guys, or see them whoever you can

952
00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:50,119
get juice it.

953
00:57:50,159 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 4: Up or the sickest of the Yeah, Barlow.

954
00:58:00,199 --> 00:58:02,639
Speaker 2: Take it out. Otherwise you're just gonna have the same

955
00:58:02,719 --> 00:58:05,079
blood and cuts team go back in the cage.

956
00:58:05,639 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. I hate to interrupt you, guys,

957
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,760
but we are running out of time and there's one

958
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,480
second we have to talk about. Uh. But I do

959
00:58:21,559 --> 00:58:24,599
want to say one thing first is that if after

960
00:58:24,679 --> 00:58:28,760
Dynamite tomorrow night, after you've chatted your hearts content to

961
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,320
your heart's content on the aw pan hub subreddit chat box,

962
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,440
which will be up a little bit later on tonight,

963
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,000
so it'll be up all day tomorrow, you can talk

964
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,559
about Dynamite before the show, during the show, and after

965
00:58:40,599 --> 00:58:45,480
the show, but right after the show, shortly after the show.

966
00:58:46,159 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 4: Uh.

967
00:58:46,599 --> 00:58:50,519
Speaker 3: Conrad Cushman and Derek Shelton will be doing their aw

968
00:58:50,679 --> 00:58:55,719
Dynamite review over on at EPW show YouTube channel, Very

969
00:58:55,719 --> 00:58:58,800
interactive show. It's a lot of fun. I highly highly

970
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,519
recommend you go there and listen to that if you've

971
00:59:01,519 --> 00:59:03,280
never listened to it, and you will have a good time.

972
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,840
I know, Chris and Valerie you've been there and you

973
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:06,920
can attest.

974
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:08,679
Speaker 4: I will be there tomorrow night.

975
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. I have a feeling tomorrow Night's Dynamite's going to

976
00:59:12,519 --> 00:59:15,599
be a very, very fun show. I am a little

977
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:21,199
disappointed that Will Osprey and swear Strickland are doing a

978
00:59:21,239 --> 00:59:25,519
face to face tomorrow night. But where is the ultimate

979
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:32,280
in pro wrestling entertainment? Where is the contract signing? I mean,

980
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,639
this is a missed opportunity. I mean, the match is

981
00:59:35,679 --> 00:59:37,480
going to be great. We know the match is going

982
00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:39,960
to be great. To face to face, something's gonna happen,

983
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,760
but it's still nothing without a contract signing. Are we

984
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,079
going to get the contract signing on Collision or Dynamite

985
00:59:46,159 --> 00:59:46,639
next week?

986
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:50,639
Speaker 4: As long as someone goes through a table, yeah.

987
00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:53,039
Speaker 3: Or it gets you know, syringe in her mouth or

988
00:59:53,039 --> 00:59:53,599
a stable.

989
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 7: I think in continuity, the contract was obviously already established

990
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,559
when they entered the tournament, so there's nothing to sign yeah.

991
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 3: But still still, I mean he got a side a contract. Man,

992
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:06,039
talk about a.

993
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 7: Paper title match. That's title match stuff, man, Like, that's

994
01:00:09,559 --> 01:00:15,559
what when is ago on this? There's nothing?

995
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,679
Speaker 3: But my point is, Barry, is when I swear Strickland

996
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,400
ever had a pay per view match without a contract signing,

997
01:00:22,719 --> 01:00:24,079
the street has to live on.

998
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,239
Speaker 7: Is that a stream?

999
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:31,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean think of go back. Just think about

1000
01:00:31,719 --> 01:00:35,400
how many contract signings swear Strickland has been in. There's

1001
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,400
all he's he's like the king of contract signings. He

1002
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,880
loves to write. I don't know, but what do you

1003
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:47,000
guys think? Uh? Base to base between Will Ospray and

1004
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,079
swear Strickland.

1005
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 4: Wow, I said, someone goes through a table. I'm happy.

1006
01:00:52,599 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1007
01:00:53,079 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 6: Will comes out and like the Daniel Brian braids, like

1008
01:00:56,519 --> 01:00:59,519
I hope they want him to my god?

1009
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:08,159
Speaker 7: No, no, what come on? Maybe he matches like he's

1010
01:01:08,159 --> 01:01:09,599
got like extensions in there.

1011
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 6: So he's got braids. That's like, oh yeah, I got

1012
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,280
braids too. You ain't so cool, dude? Were your where

1013
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:17,840
your glasses laced with something?

1014
01:01:19,679 --> 01:01:24,679
Speaker 4: Well? Come on, I'm trying to for every hardy Cameron

1015
01:01:24,719 --> 01:01:28,280
as Mercedes therapist, there is a well off Brey wearing

1016
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:29,400
Dray braid.

1017
01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 6: Yes, Sarah Alex Winzer comes out, she said, what are

1018
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,000
you doing? Get stupid braids out of your head.

1019
01:01:37,159 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 3: That's okay, I'll tell you what.

1020
01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:45,199
Speaker 7: For Land and Barry.

1021
01:01:45,239 --> 01:01:47,039
Speaker 3: How tired are you right now?

1022
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 7: I'm pretty tired man showing and I've been showing.

1023
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 6: I got one sixteen ounce peer and at my age,

1024
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,480
that's enough to knock me up for a few days.

1025
01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:04,039
Speaker 3: Oh yes, for a few days. Talking here's I do

1026
01:02:04,119 --> 01:02:08,239
not Can you imagine me drinking? How I would be?

1027
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,239
I do not drink. However, whenever I attend a burial,

1028
01:02:12,239 --> 01:02:14,800
a family funeral, you know how you go to like

1029
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:19,920
a restaurant afterwards to have a get together whatever. In

1030
01:02:20,039 --> 01:02:22,199
my area, all the restaurants are bars, or they have

1031
01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:24,400
a bar attached. I don't know why I do this,

1032
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,480
but every time I go for a lunch or a dinner,

1033
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,599
I always order a bloody Mary from the bar, not

1034
01:02:31,679 --> 01:02:34,760
a Virgin. I get the right, right bloody Mary. I

1035
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,320
don't know why, because I don't particularly drink, but I

1036
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,519
always get a bloody Mary. And I spend what bloody Mary?

1037
01:02:42,519 --> 01:02:47,280
And I am super sauced. I mean, I, oh my god,

1038
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,079
I am wrecked at a bet at a funeral, and

1039
01:02:50,159 --> 01:02:52,320
a family family funeral whatever.

1040
01:02:52,519 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 6: Little did he know It's not from the alcohol. It's

1041
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,800
actually an allergic reaction to the tomato sauce.

1042
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 3: M I don't think so, because I drink a lot

1043
01:03:02,519 --> 01:03:06,480
of v A buddy, we know so mm hmm.

1044
01:03:06,679 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 6: But is it bloody Mary? Vaut But do you like

1045
01:03:12,039 --> 01:03:13,000
him spicy Kelson?

1046
01:03:13,039 --> 01:03:14,159
Speaker 7: I like mine.

1047
01:03:14,519 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 3: I like min spicy.

1048
01:03:16,199 --> 01:03:18,679
Speaker 6: I like mine spicy, good bloody Mary at a brunch

1049
01:03:18,719 --> 01:03:20,760
for the big piece of bacon in there or something,

1050
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,320
and I'm not I don't a lot of bacon, but

1051
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,360
in a bloody Mary, it's good stuff.

1052
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:30,519
Speaker 3: And anyway, that's our thoughts on the Will. We nowhere,

1053
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:32,320
we were talking.

1054
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:33,239
Speaker 4: We were talking about it.

1055
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were talking. Yeah, go ahead, Well.

1056
01:03:40,719 --> 01:03:43,559
Speaker 5: Well it was so funny that I've lost my idea.

1057
01:03:43,599 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 7: Oh no, no, okay, I got it now.

1058
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,559
Speaker 5: First of all, I want to I want to give

1059
01:03:47,639 --> 01:03:51,880
my big, big congratulations to Will and Alex. I'm getting

1060
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:57,239
married this weekends to them. Did you did you guys?

1061
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,960
See swarves sweet stweet about about it.

1062
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah I did.

1063
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 5: It was right to the point. Congratulations.

1064
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:13,239
Speaker 3: See you at work, you think all congratulations? See it

1065
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,199
work really really well done.

1066
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,559
Speaker 5: But I'm very very excited to see that face to face,

1067
01:04:20,599 --> 01:04:25,000
and I'm sure it will be brought up on the past,

1068
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:30,920
the past year fighting to get the e vps off

1069
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:36,039
of the young Bucks and helping Hangman and and and stuff.

1070
01:04:36,199 --> 01:04:38,639
Speaker 7: But yeah, it's going to be great.

1071
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:43,119
Speaker 3: Very briefly, I do want to bring up a collision

1072
01:04:43,159 --> 01:04:44,880
match because it kind of goes back to what we

1073
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,840
were watching earlier, talking about earlier My World an Athena

1074
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:53,800
on collision. What do you think who wins this match?

1075
01:04:54,639 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 8: Athena Athena Yea, you know what I'm I'm gonna I'm

1076
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:05,559
gonna go out on a limb and say my world.

1077
01:05:06,199 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 4: He has faced Athena twice in big matches, well three

1078
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,679
times if youman count Survival of the Fittest, but twice

1079
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:22,119
in big singles matches since joining a W. First time,

1080
01:05:22,679 --> 01:05:26,559
proving ground match, she went to ten minutes, earned the

1081
01:05:26,599 --> 01:05:32,679
title match. Second time, the title match, fantastic match, like

1082
01:05:33,239 --> 01:05:36,079
if you can go back and watch it, and I

1083
01:05:36,119 --> 01:05:40,519
mean she took the fight to Athena, and I mean

1084
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:45,119
look really close to being able to beat her third time?

1085
01:05:45,159 --> 01:05:46,000
Could be the charm.

1086
01:05:47,239 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. Also you have to think about the chemistry that

1087
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,880
they these two would have Athena trained my World.

1088
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the history and the chemistry they have, Like, yeah,

1089
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:03,840
I'm looking. I'm really looking forward to the matches. I mean,

1090
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,079
based on their previous to encounters, this should be excellent.

1091
01:06:07,159 --> 01:06:10,440
And I think my World has taken you.

1092
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 3: Know, I look at this match, and this is one

1093
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,000
of those. I mean this with no disrespect at all.

1094
01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:18,239
I don't really care who wins this match. I just

1095
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,000
really want to watch this match. I think this is

1096
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,400
going to be a sleeper. I think this is going

1097
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:23,559
to be a really great match.

1098
01:06:25,199 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 7: Ye I want to see Athena go ahead and sorry, yeah.

1099
01:06:28,559 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 5: The question is is the student better than the teacher?

1100
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:37,039
Speaker 3: M hmm, well that as the teacher said, I taught

1101
01:06:37,079 --> 01:06:39,840
you everything you know, but I didn't teach you everything

1102
01:06:40,119 --> 01:06:43,800
I know. That was what Athena said very recently on

1103
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:44,519
Ring of Honor.

1104
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 7: I just want to see Athena wrestle more than twice

1105
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,400
or more than once. So I want to see her wins.

1106
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:52,559
I want to see her in the finals.

1107
01:06:53,679 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 3: And Athena is one of those wrestlers that, like Mercedes,

1108
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,360
they make their opponents look good even when they win.

1109
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,960
They make their opponents look good, and I for one,

1110
01:07:03,239 --> 01:07:07,199
really appreciate that. Warnce Cassidy does that too. Arch Cassidy,

1111
01:07:07,519 --> 01:07:10,920
even when he was on that International Championship to wur,

1112
01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:14,599
he was making his opponents look good. Even though he

1113
01:07:14,679 --> 01:07:17,920
was winning all those matches, he still made his opponents

1114
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,280
look good.

1115
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 4: Until you make your opponents look like credible challenge add

1116
01:07:29,039 --> 01:07:36,280
to you overcoming the like they understand that the better

1117
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,880
everyone is, the better the champion.

1118
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:39,079
Speaker 7: It.

1119
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 6: Hey, one more thing for a rap Autcolson shout out

1120
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,800
to Brian Cage with his big win in the Mister

1121
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:50,840
Devan or Mister Nevada Bodybuilding Show. I don't know if

1122
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,199
that's an NPC show or an IVV show. I don't

1123
01:07:53,199 --> 01:07:54,960
know if he got his pro card or not from that,

1124
01:07:55,079 --> 01:07:58,679
But for anybody who follows bodybuilding like I do casually,

1125
01:07:59,199 --> 01:08:02,480
big achievement explains why he was incredibly lean. It is

1126
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,480
very not healthy to stay as lean as he's been

1127
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,639
on TV, but to know he was dieting down for

1128
01:08:07,719 --> 01:08:09,559
a show and still wrestling is insane.

1129
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,239
Speaker 7: Really really great work from him. I hope he keeps

1130
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:13,559
it up.

1131
01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:18,239
Speaker 6: His back looks fantastic, upper body development look great. Needs

1132
01:08:18,239 --> 01:08:20,399
a little more work on the hamstrings and calves. I

1133
01:08:20,399 --> 01:08:22,159
think that's holding him back a little bit, but I

1134
01:08:22,199 --> 01:08:24,600
was really excited to see him get that, and it's uh,

1135
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,039
it is not easy to win a bodybuilding show, I'll

1136
01:08:28,039 --> 01:08:28,600
put it that way.

1137
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,319
Speaker 7: So really really great great work.

1138
01:08:30,199 --> 01:08:37,239
Speaker 4: And hands machine. You can see him and Lance Archer

1139
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:43,359
is it's the new uh Spielberg Alien movie.

1140
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,079
Speaker 7: He's in the Something Day. What's it called.

1141
01:08:46,239 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to remember.

1142
01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 7: Plugged in.

1143
01:08:51,079 --> 01:08:58,399
Speaker 6: I think Declaration Day, Yeah, something like that, disclosure disclosure,

1144
01:09:00,119 --> 01:09:01,000
and Captain tells.

1145
01:09:02,119 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, just real quick. You know, if you I follow

1146
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,840
Buddy Matthews on Instagram and he's been posting quite a bit.

1147
01:09:10,239 --> 01:09:12,000
One of the things that he posted this week, and

1148
01:09:12,039 --> 01:09:14,560
I'm gonna get this wrong, but you'll get the gist

1149
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,279
of what he said showed him working out. And Buddy

1150
01:09:17,319 --> 01:09:21,720
Matthews is Jack. You know, he's gigantic, and he's he's

1151
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,920
a he's a unit. And he said something in the fact,

1152
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,159
I don't work out to be a better wrestler, and

1153
01:09:27,199 --> 01:09:29,279
I'll work out so that I'm big. I work out

1154
01:09:29,359 --> 01:09:31,680
because my wife is hot and people will say, have

1155
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:39,039
you seen her husband? There you go, and so that's me. Hey,

1156
01:09:39,079 --> 01:09:40,680
it makes sense. And I love that he gave a

1157
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,159
shout out to his hot wife, Ria Ripley. Uh, you know,

1158
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:49,560
the talented I call hit the talented mister Ripley. But anyway,

1159
01:09:50,079 --> 01:09:52,560
that's our show for this week. We will be back

1160
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:57,279
next week with our Forbidden Door preview and prediction show.

1161
01:09:57,359 --> 01:10:01,399
I'm hoping between Dynamite and Collision we actually get some

1162
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,039
matches firmed up. I don't honestly have a lot of

1163
01:10:05,079 --> 01:10:09,279
faith in some of this because of these visa issues.

1164
01:10:09,319 --> 01:10:13,000
It's going to be interesting to see what transpires. But anyway,

1165
01:10:13,119 --> 01:10:18,319
join us next week Tuesday night, eight forty five Eastern time,

1166
01:10:18,399 --> 01:10:21,640
as we do every Tuesday night, join us in the

1167
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,880
YouTube chat. We would really like to hear your opinions.

1168
01:10:25,239 --> 01:10:28,039
And of course, if you're not watching us live on YouTube,

1169
01:10:28,079 --> 01:10:32,279
you can listen to us shortly after the show wraps

1170
01:10:32,359 --> 01:10:37,760
up on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, where you listen to your podcast.

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So anyway, thank you guys for coming tonight, and thank

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you for listening and watching or whatever you're doing. Forty

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aw Fanhub podcast demand. Eddie Kingston, This is Kelson. Good night, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Good night, Kenny, good night, good night Eddie.

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Speaker 3: We love Eddie.