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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, good morning, good morning, and welcome, welcome, welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>It is time now for our community connection right here

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<v Speaker 1>on K one, the one you trust. And we're having

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a problem with our camera here

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<v Speaker 1>today thanks to the storm. We've got some we've got

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<v Speaker 1>some things that are kind of got us on freeze

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<v Speaker 1>for a little bit, but we do have the audio portion.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Quinn Chipper in with us here from Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>and other conservatives Washington County. And also we have Tom

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<v Speaker 1>with us, Tom, former mayor, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, We've got a nice little topic to t F

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<v Speaker 1>today and I sure hope the folks were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>have found some shelter in this storm today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, because we are talking about Unsheltered Homeless task Force

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<v Speaker 3>and this is going to be our topic at our

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<v Speaker 3>ROCWC meeting next Tuesday evening at Christ and Second. And

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<v Speaker 3>to start with, I never complained about the rain in Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm grateful for it, but there are people that have

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<v Speaker 3>challenges because they aren't sheltered. And so Aeron Kirkpatrick is

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<v Speaker 3>a city councilman who is on the task force.

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<v Speaker 4>Tom is very active with it.

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<v Speaker 3>And we are going to have a bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>panel next Tuesday, and Tom is here to tell us

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<v Speaker 3>some about the task force. It's history, where they're at,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of where they're going next. So I'm just going

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<v Speaker 3>to turn with you, Tom, and I'm going to start

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<v Speaker 3>chatting away.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Good boarding. We chaded a little bit before.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope I can get it all in this time.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the council formed this committee I think started

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<v Speaker 5>before the last election and the concept of it and

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<v Speaker 5>it got formalized recently. And you know, part of Aaron Kirkpatrick,

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<v Speaker 5>you mentioned him. Part of his campaign was the Highway

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<v Speaker 5>to homeless I can't remember the name of it. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but yeah, out of homelessness. And his concept is that,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you give everybody the tools to get out

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<v Speaker 5>of homelessness, or you know, we don't.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't want that to be in our community.

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<v Speaker 5>If you don't want to get help to get out

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<v Speaker 5>of it, we want to provide help.

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<v Speaker 2>And I tell you that, I'll jump around a little bit, but.

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<v Speaker 5>The the number one thing that has come out of

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<v Speaker 5>this for me is two parts. One is that our

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<v Speaker 5>homeless population is primarily local people. It's not that we

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<v Speaker 5>don't have people that come here, but they are typically transient,

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<v Speaker 5>they don't stay. And then number two is that we

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<v Speaker 5>have a wonderful support structure, and some of the perceptions

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<v Speaker 5>of our support structure in town I don't think are accurate.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's been very enlightening to me to listen to

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<v Speaker 5>the people from say Dobu Mission, Lighthouse Be the Light,

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<v Speaker 5>other organizations also that they are They're more realistic, they

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<v Speaker 5>have more tons of compassion, but they also don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to be taken advantage of by people. So I've been

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<v Speaker 5>very heartened about the way they run their operations. And

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<v Speaker 5>it is so difficult to go even to a fundraiser

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<v Speaker 5>and listen to someone talk for twenty thirty minutes to

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<v Speaker 5>get a feel for how they really are. But in

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<v Speaker 5>this committee where we sit into our meetings every other week,

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<v Speaker 5>we've got to know each other.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had real conversations, and.

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<v Speaker 5>That we really have a great support structure and a

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<v Speaker 5>great number of organizations to provide assistance to all types

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<v Speaker 5>of needy people in town.

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<v Speaker 3>I know one of the goals in setting up the

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<v Speaker 3>task force was to have a variety of people participating.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe there is a formerly homeless person on the

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<v Speaker 3>task Force, people who have a business, maybe they're affected

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<v Speaker 3>by the homeless population in some way. That's obviously the

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<v Speaker 3>service obviously the service agents and others. So it's a

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<v Speaker 3>really interesting group of people who come to the table.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to back up on one comment you made, Tom,

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<v Speaker 3>because there was this perception that people are being busted

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<v Speaker 3>here from outside, and I think you've kind of busted

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<v Speaker 3>that myth in some of the statistics.

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<v Speaker 4>That you've gained.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to say that doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'll agree with that, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>But.

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<v Speaker 5>Everyone on the task forces to say no, one is

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<v Speaker 5>denied that that has happened. But the statistics show that

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<v Speaker 5>our homeless homeless population is you know, sixty percent local

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<v Speaker 5>people and long term local people five plus years and

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<v Speaker 5>some of them their whole lives. So and so we've

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<v Speaker 5>also seen some good data the people, like I said earlier,

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<v Speaker 5>the people who do come in, they don't stay here.

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<v Speaker 2>They're they're they're transient. And I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 5>You want to have good support structures. I mean this

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<v Speaker 5>is now I'm talking about committee, but you want to

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<v Speaker 5>have good support structures to help those who want and

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<v Speaker 5>need help. And and I mean, let's throw everything we

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<v Speaker 5>can to help them get out of this situation get

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<v Speaker 5>back to being productive citizens in our community. That's it's

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<v Speaker 5>awesome to get that to transition the uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the ones that are wanting to do criminal acts and

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<v Speaker 5>things that the damage, I mean one of the big

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<v Speaker 5>things for me and I got on it because of

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<v Speaker 5>private property rights and the and the the damage we've

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<v Speaker 5>had to some of our properties.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, the Pathfinder.

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<v Speaker 5>Park phase wanted a fantastic park structure in Bartlesville, and

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<v Speaker 5>there are people who don't feel safe using it because

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<v Speaker 5>of this.

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<v Speaker 2>There's other that say, oh, it's not a problem.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, but I know there's people that have

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<v Speaker 5>said it's not safe or they don't feel safe, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we're we're working to make sure that that

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<v Speaker 5>is not the case. You know, we've had tons of

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<v Speaker 5>public bathrooms in park areas destroyed or you know, people

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<v Speaker 5>try to live in them and you know that's not

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<v Speaker 5>what they're for and it's illegal to do so, and

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<v Speaker 5>it always has been illegal to do so so anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>so that that's, uh, you know, we want I think

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<v Speaker 5>that those facilities, you know, park facilities and public facilities.

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<v Speaker 5>You tell me if I'm wrong, but I think they

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<v Speaker 5>are there for the benefit and use of our citizens,

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<v Speaker 5>the tax paying citizens of Bartlesville, and if there's a

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<v Speaker 5>element that's making it to where we can't utilize and

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<v Speaker 5>enjoy those facilities, then it needs change. And so that

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<v Speaker 5>that has been That was sort of the first part

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<v Speaker 5>of the task force, you know, and and so we've

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<v Speaker 5>we've moved past that now and we're getting more into

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<v Speaker 5>the Honestly, the more difficult discussion with the agencies that

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<v Speaker 5>provide support to these individuals is you know, how to

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<v Speaker 5>coordinate those services and how to make sure they're not

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<v Speaker 5>taking advantage of but at the same time properly utilized.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's some great conversations going on around that.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of it is maybe.

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<v Speaker 5>Getting on a universal or everybody using the same software.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Charity Tracker is.

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<v Speaker 5>One of them, and there's another United US I think

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<v Speaker 5>was another one that was brought up by the school

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<v Speaker 5>system at our last meeting. So you know, if you

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<v Speaker 5>can get say sixty seventy percent of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Nonprofits in town utilizing something like that, so they can

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<v Speaker 2>see how.

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<v Speaker 5>Their services are being utilized by individuals and make sure

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<v Speaker 5>someone's not getting the same of us over and over

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<v Speaker 5>again there and you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Taking advantage of them. Miss you know so well.

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<v Speaker 4>I know one goal is to help people move.

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<v Speaker 3>Above and beyond their circumstance, whatever that sort of thing is.

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<v Speaker 3>And because there are a lot of mental health issues,

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<v Speaker 3>other health issues, and a grand health is involved. When

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<v Speaker 3>we were in still Water, we used Charity Tracker and

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<v Speaker 3>launched When we launched Charity Tracker and still Water, it

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<v Speaker 3>was the second largest network in the entire United States,

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<v Speaker 3>and in the end we had over sixty agencies, churches,

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<v Speaker 3>public schools, the hospital. It became very, very broad based

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<v Speaker 3>over several years, and it became a way for.

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<v Speaker 4>People to, like I said, to coordinate.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't want wasted resources. We generally want to help people.

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<v Speaker 3>And just finding that right tool for Bartlesville, whether it's

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<v Speaker 3>Charity Track or something else, I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a key. So I'm glad to know that y'all

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<v Speaker 3>are exploring those kinds of coordination options.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to waste our time here to discuss it,

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<v Speaker 5>but I highly recommend that you either I know you

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<v Speaker 5>have a conflict to attend or meetings. So I put

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<v Speaker 5>that in an email that Elaine or Mike could deliver

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<v Speaker 5>to the committee members the story of Stillwater, because I

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<v Speaker 5>think the agencies need to hear the success side of it.

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<v Speaker 2>There, there's it's it's going to be work for them.

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<v Speaker 5>It's going to cost somebody some money, charity trackers, expensive

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<v Speaker 5>software package.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Tom, if I can ask you a question, is

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<v Speaker 1>part of the goal of the committee here not to

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<v Speaker 1>reinvent the wheel. Are we looking at things that are

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<v Speaker 1>already on the books that may have been forgotten in

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<v Speaker 1>regards to how we accommodate or deal with folks who

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<v Speaker 1>may be just living in sheltered or perhaps trespassing.

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<v Speaker 5>So, if you're talking about the city ordinances, yes, there

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<v Speaker 5>there are existence.

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<v Speaker 1>We are reviewing those to make sure we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to reinvent something.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>No, and and so there's also been a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>national attention brought to homelesseners. Uh you go to the

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<v Speaker 5>extreme areas in the in Oregon and uh, Seattle and

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<v Speaker 5>places like that, and they've uh, there's there's been some towns,

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<v Speaker 5>not Portland, but towns outside of Portland that have taken

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<v Speaker 5>some pretty strong lines during drawn some strong and some

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<v Speaker 5>of those ordinances have been challenged all the way up

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<v Speaker 5>to the Supreme Court, so we know what we'll stand

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<v Speaker 5>the test and what won't because some of those ordinances

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<v Speaker 5>have been tested. So we've proposed an ordinance, uh, and

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<v Speaker 5>what it is is an amendment to the existing ordinance.

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<v Speaker 5>Just like you said that that we believe, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I shouldn't say we, but the attorneys that have reviewed

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<v Speaker 5>it believed that it would withstand any tests. If you've

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<v Speaker 5>you've opened a little door, so I'll walk through it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 5>There's uh, there's been a lot of talk, especially on

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<v Speaker 5>social media about finding homeless people five hundred dollars a

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<v Speaker 5>day for you know, I guess being homelessly people can't

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<v Speaker 5>see my quote marks in the in the air. But

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<v Speaker 5>that's just not how that ordinance reads. It's not uh,

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<v Speaker 5>the intent. It's not how our current police presence and

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<v Speaker 5>utilization or our municipal court are using the ordnance. And

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<v Speaker 5>the current ordinance has the one that's on the books currently,

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<v Speaker 5>not the one we proposed. It has the ability to

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<v Speaker 5>find for certain activities, and what we're proposing to refine

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<v Speaker 5>it is to take into what you see, taking account

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<v Speaker 5>what you see in normal or current day activity. So

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<v Speaker 5>example that would be camping when that the current ordinance

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<v Speaker 5>was written many years ago. You know, camping on public

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<v Speaker 5>areas was not a thing. It just wasn't a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>That needed to be and it is today it is

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<v Speaker 1>a problem that needs to be addressed.

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<v Speaker 5>So but I just want to say that there are

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<v Speaker 5>very very few finds put out for homeless people. It's

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<v Speaker 5>it's those who uh, continually break the law, those who

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<v Speaker 5>you know, So this this becomes not a homeless or

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<v Speaker 5>unsheltered issue. It is a criminal issue, and at some

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<v Speaker 5>point that has to be addressed. So and and I

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<v Speaker 5>want to make the distinction that those two don't go together, no, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know. And and I can't tell you the compassion

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<v Speaker 5>and the understanding that Alan Jinches, our municipal judge, is

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<v Speaker 5>on the committee, and and he's given very good examples

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<v Speaker 5>the books. We have Sierra Compton, who's the Homeless Unsheltered

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<v Speaker 5>Liaison with the Barlsfield Police Department.

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<v Speaker 2>She's on our committee. You know.

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<v Speaker 5>Their their goals are to help these people and help

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<v Speaker 2>I give the example of.

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<v Speaker 5>They discovered a homeless encampment that was quite a mess,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember it's public or private property.

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<v Speaker 5>But anyway, the judge, instead of finding or doing anything

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<v Speaker 5>of that nature, he said, we'd like to give you

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<v Speaker 5>we'll provide coordination with services that are needed. And they

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<v Speaker 5>took pride the people that they took pride in cleaning

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<v Speaker 5>up that area, and through that other resources came in

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<v Speaker 5>and connected with those people and hopefully they're on a

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<v Speaker 2>So hopefully there's.

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<v Speaker 3>Also a photo following through that of the before, during,

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<v Speaker 3>and after, and the judge show me himust be like

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen or twenty photos of there were a couple that

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<v Speaker 3>were shown at the city council meeting and it was

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<v Speaker 3>just you could see the pride in the people's faces

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<v Speaker 3>or participating.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a good collaboration. The judges. He's very fair and reasonable.

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<v Speaker 3>But there aren't like five one hundred dollars a day

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<v Speaker 2>Well the ordan I said, allowed for a per day fine.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not there's there's none of that that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not in there.

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<v Speaker 1>So but you got to watch it because folks get emotional.

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<v Speaker 1>And I understand and this is a hot button issue

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<v Speaker 1>and I get that too, but you have to be

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<v Speaker 5>What the people I've talked to, if they take the

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<v Speaker 2>And it's an incentive.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, we don't really want your money, we know what

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<v Speaker 2>Well they don't. Most of them don't have the ability

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so it's it's not a it's not a practical

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<v Speaker 3>So well, and again we're talking about the Unsheltered Homeless

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<v Speaker 3>Task Force and the topic on Tuesday night we're calling

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<v Speaker 3>Hope for the homeless, and part of it they are,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, about sixty percent of them, or actually

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<v Speaker 3>people who are not only partions, been here a long

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<v Speaker 3>they're fellow citizens, you know, neighbors, friends, people's family members,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're a community that's very generous and compassionate. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's something that I think will come through in our

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<v Speaker 3>panel next week, I'm hoping that we'll get some of

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<v Speaker 3>those photos to show that particular story to such a

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<v Speaker 3>great story, and that's going to be a crossing second.

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<v Speaker 3>Next Tuesday evening is free for everybody can come and

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<v Speaker 3>it can come come early. Order some great food. Six

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<v Speaker 3>thirty to seven forty five. We have a hard stop

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<v Speaker 3>at seven forty five. Meet some friends, bring some friends,

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<v Speaker 3>make some friends and.

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<v Speaker 4>Join us ROCWC.

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<v Speaker 3>Website, sorry, facebook page, ROLCWC or info at ROCWC dot

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<v Speaker 3>com if people want to reach out.

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<v Speaker 1>Very good and once again you're gonna have a panel there.

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<v Speaker 4>If you have questions, bring them, yeah, please, And if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have I just maybe even the slightest question to bring it,

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<v Speaker 1>because you never know, there are a lot of folks

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<v Speaker 4>Not everybody is right.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really proudly ask for as time and the work

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<v Speaker 3>that you all are doing, and I'm staying abreast of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, I'm at the conflict Nott at tend but

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<v Speaker 3>you've got a great team and you are making some

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<v Speaker 5>So it's been very heartening the attitude that everybody's come

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<v Speaker 5>to the table with between the city the police department,

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<v Speaker 5>of the judge and the service providers. It's been a

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<v Speaker 5>very positive process for me, and I just really appreciate

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<v Speaker 5>everybody's attitude towards it, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I've heard that from others of the committee as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, well it's great having you in here to

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<v Speaker 1>have great heaven. You in here quick, and we hope

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<v Speaker 1>to have everybody back pretty darn soon. We'll look for

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<v Speaker 1>their updates on this. Make sure you go out Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>six o'clock Sturday six but six to eat.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh come early to eat, or you can eat during

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, thank but anyway, thank you very much for being

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