Speaker 1: Four Finger Discounted.
Speaker 2: It's part two of the Best Simpsons Vacation Episodes here
Speaker 2: on the four Finger Discount network. I am Brendan Dano,
Speaker 2: joined right now by my other bearded friend, as I
Speaker 2: referred to him in the first episode here of the
Speaker 2: best Vacation episodes. It is Elliot j O'Neill from The
Speaker 2: Simpsons Index slash. What's your new shows? Call you, mister Davis,
Speaker 2: mister j O'Neil Muscle Memory.
Speaker 1: Yes, share a lot of similarities physically with guy Davis,
Speaker 1: but yes, a few points of differences, one of them
Speaker 1: being that my movie podcast isn't with legendary Leonard Moulton,
Speaker 1: It's with BT Galloway. And we are reviewing the movies
Speaker 1: that star the cast of the Simpsons. Yes, it's starring
Speaker 1: Springfield and yeah, it's been a wild time. I was
Speaker 1: just trying to think, if we're done any good vacation
Speaker 1: movies on that, I'll have to bring up the list.
Speaker 1: Maybe you should do vacation like National Lampoons.
Speaker 2: Is there a Simpsons cast member in there somewhere?
Speaker 1: Man? They pop up in the weirdest of places, And
Speaker 1: fortunately for us, our definition of starring is quite broad.
Speaker 1: We take bit parts, uncredited cameos and all all the rest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of Leonnon Moulton podcast movie Guy with Guy
Speaker 2: Davis and Leonard Moulten, we just had Lee. We're now
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Speaker 1: Of course?
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Speaker 1: Like, I want to be in this movie, but I
Speaker 1: want to be in a tub.
Speaker 2: Yes, I want to be in a tub with my
Speaker 2: kidney missing. Eventually, I'd love for the Saw films. Guys,
Speaker 2: not a huge fan. I love the Saw films. But yeah,
Speaker 2: we had Lee whel On yesterday and yeah, I love
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Speaker 2: part two of our Simpsons Best Vacation Episodes. We covered
Speaker 2: numerous episodes in the last one we Come and Call
Speaker 2: the Simpsons. We did an episode you explained to me
Speaker 2: a totally fun thing that but will never do again.
Speaker 2: Bart on the Road, City of New York's Homer Simpson.
Speaker 2: We didn't do have a plus. We did how I
Speaker 2: spent my stronger vacation and Itchy and Scratchy Land. Now
Speaker 2: I want to start this one with a bang, right,
Speaker 2: So let's start this one with Summer of four foot two,
Speaker 2: which I think is probably the best Simpsons vacation episode
Speaker 2: of all time. Would you agree?
Speaker 1: Oh, one hundred percent. It's up there in contention with
Speaker 1: the best Simpsons episodes. Quite frankly, there is just all
Speaker 1: the family members are firing all cylinders. It's a rare,
Speaker 1: leaser focused episode and it just sticks the landing in
Speaker 1: so so many ways and does so many wonderful things
Speaker 1: while also being extremely funny and quotable.
Speaker 2: It has one of my favorite adult quotes that I
Speaker 2: never realized until I was older. Yeah, Simpsons have those
Speaker 2: gags whereas you're a kid, you don't realize what's going on,
Speaker 2: and then you realize when you're watching it with your
Speaker 2: kids when you don't have kids, but Mike and they go, oh,
Speaker 2: now I know what it means. It's Marge going through
Speaker 2: the shopping going Homer and where you have a planet tonight.
Speaker 2: But count me out. That is an old timer. That
Speaker 2: is an absolute all timer. I love that line. But yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right. I was never a huge fan of Lisa episodes.
Speaker 2: I've never made that no secret here on the podcast.
Speaker 2: When I was a kid, I've learned to love them.
Speaker 2: As I get older, I realized that. I Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think the older we get, the more we realize we
Speaker 2: are Lisa, because Lisa was the character they used, all
Speaker 2: the writers used to live vicariously through with their grievances
Speaker 2: with being older. But I think when I was younger,
Speaker 2: I thought it was this annoying, snooty she thinks she's
Speaker 2: too good for everybody child. But this episode here, it's
Speaker 2: a real coming of age tale, don't you think it's
Speaker 2: really it's a Lisa discovering herself episode, but also Bart
Speaker 2: discovering himself as well, where Bart realizes that, oh, I
Speaker 2: may be the cool kid back home, but here I'm
Speaker 2: just another kid and that's fine as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and seeing the kids evolving moreph in these ways,
Speaker 1: and as Lisa's you know, trying on a new hat
Speaker 1: and it's just trying to be someone who she isn't
Speaker 1: but at the core of it, she can't deny herself
Speaker 1: and have parts of herself coming out. And the other
Speaker 1: kids who befriend a recognized that it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you were already already being yourself. It's just yeah, you
Speaker 1: were wearing different clothes for once you.
Speaker 2: Are Lisa Simpson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for real And yeah with the seashells on the
Speaker 1: car at the end, such a sweet gesture that ill
Speaker 1: thought out. But I think it's funny this one as well,
Speaker 1: subverting the whole Bart is cool angle of it all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all the previous seasons and everything is just, yeah, Bart's
Speaker 1: a cool kid. But then the show kind of having
Speaker 1: the courage to make him look like a dweeb in
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 2: The thing is they play up here. The joke there
Speaker 2: for me has always been that what made Bart cool
Speaker 2: when the chauf first started isn't cool anymore. So, she
Speaker 2: points out, So I think it's Aaron who's played by Christina?
Speaker 2: Is it Richie or Ricky.
Speaker 1: Richie Christina Ricchie?
Speaker 2: Yeah sounds right, Casper girl, She points out, who's you
Speaker 2: think he is? Of that sling shot in his backpocket?
Speaker 2: Dennis the Menace? Well, the slingshot was, you know, cool.
Speaker 2: It was like, oh, he's such a rebel, you know,
Speaker 2: he's uses a slink shot at school. He's such a
Speaker 2: such a cool kid. By season eight or seven, where
Speaker 2: I think it might be the end of season seventies
Speaker 2: episode that wasn't cool anymore. It was like, who is
Speaker 2: this guy? Like he's a dorg. Time itself has evolved
Speaker 2: past the character of Bart Simpson being cool now, and
Speaker 2: that's what they pointed out, which, as he said, quite
Speaker 2: a ballsy move by the show to sort of because
Speaker 2: will they still persist with Bart being the cool kid
Speaker 2: at school in later seasons and whatnot? But he's not
Speaker 2: a cool kid when you really think about it. He's
Speaker 2: cool in Springfield, but in the real world he wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Be cool at all. No, not at all, And the
Speaker 1: show had sort of moved the focus from him well
Speaker 1: and truly by this point, and it was more about
Speaker 1: the Homer Show and these sort of earnest more earnest
Speaker 1: episodes and the least of focused ones tend to be
Speaker 1: were a bit fewer and far between. And yeah, as
Speaker 1: a kid, I can imagine, Yeah, there's getting in the
Speaker 1: way of the good time, Like where's the Homer antics?
Speaker 1: You know, where's the Bard antics? And they're still in
Speaker 1: this episode.
Speaker 2: But we do get antics, we do, like Homer with
Speaker 2: the dynamite in the dish washer and whatnot. So there
Speaker 2: is funny moments there, but it's a very centralized episode
Speaker 2: of very centralized on Lisa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that one as well, coming back to that
Speaker 1: episode years later and having it pointed out, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Marge is cleaning up from the dynamite in this other scene,
Speaker 1: but they don't pull focus on it. It's just happening
Speaker 1: in the back there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Ah, wonderful.
Speaker 2: But there's so many iconic moments though, as you were
Speaker 2: pointing out earlier, So we've got the dud is in
Speaker 2: this one.
Speaker 1: Oh there's an interesting starring Springfield connection. Sorry, okay. So
Speaker 1: there's this obscure nineties movie called This Is My Life
Speaker 1: where Julie Kavner is starring as a single mother of
Speaker 1: two and she decides to quit her job and become
Speaker 1: a stand up comedian and as a result, she's having
Speaker 1: other stand as her career is taking off, she's having
Speaker 1: other stand up comics like babysit her kids. They are
Speaker 1: playing mystery date in one of the scenes, and in
Speaker 1: one of the scenes, Julie Kavna's kid gets the dud Wow.
Speaker 2: How amazing And when did that film come out?
Speaker 1: Ninety three I think. But also one of the kids
Speaker 1: has a Bart Simpson like basketball hoop on a door
Speaker 1: as well. I'll just double check the date. Yeah, ninety two.
Speaker 2: Two okay, and this would have been I think ninety
Speaker 2: six ninety seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were wondering, was yeah Simpson's making a subtle
Speaker 1: reference to this or was it just a board game
Speaker 1: that was in pop culture? So of course it was
Speaker 1: going to get referenced.
Speaker 2: And I never played the board game Mystery Day. I've
Speaker 2: never seen one in real life. I always thought Mystery
Speaker 2: Date was just a TV show, you know, the Blind
Speaker 2: Date shows. I never knew you could actually get a
Speaker 2: board game Mystery Date. I thought this was something I
Speaker 2: still did this day. I didn't realize it was a
Speaker 2: real thing. I thought it was something that Simpsons just
Speaker 2: made up. I didn't realize it was a real game.
Speaker 2: Is there actually a board game called Mystery Date?
Speaker 1: I assume so. Well, they had a physical board game
Speaker 1: in the movie, so I can only say this is like.
Speaker 2: A weird game to play with kids, Mystery Date.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, it comes along with a lot of
Speaker 1: these things that we didn't have in Australia that it
Speaker 1: seemed so whole. What as America got over there, They've
Speaker 1: got so many things that we don't have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, it was always subway sandwiches whenever watch
Speaker 2: because we never had sub here and gil apparently it
Speaker 2: was in Australia, but we never had it in Geelong
Speaker 2: anyway till a lot later. But I always went, what
Speaker 2: the hell is subway?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Now, there was one in Paramatta for years and
Speaker 1: it was like the only one as like a suburb
Speaker 1: in like western Sydney. And they used to cut the
Speaker 1: bread with like a v a notch out of the
Speaker 1: top of the bread rather than you know, slicing it
Speaker 1: in half. It was a much better presentation and they
Speaker 1: weren't as stingy with the meats as they are now.
Speaker 2: How stingy are they with the meat now?
Speaker 1: They used to have my favorite sandwich, the sub Club,
Speaker 1: and they've gotten bred of it. It was roast beef,
Speaker 1: turkey and ham and it was the most beautiful combination.
Speaker 1: Bring back the subclub, bring back the V notch out
Speaker 1: of the bread. It was probably a pain in the
Speaker 1: ass for the sandwich artists to make, but hey, you
Speaker 1: call yourself a sandwich artist.
Speaker 2: My life hack for subway sandwiches is I always order
Speaker 2: a chicken meal, a chicken sandwich, but I always make
Speaker 2: sure I order it. I look at the I like
Speaker 2: chicken strips or chicken terry ARCHI right, but sometimes they
Speaker 2: have it portioned right, the chicken strips in little packets.
Speaker 2: The chicken terry they tend to have in a big tub. Right,
Speaker 2: they scoop it out. What you do is you walk
Speaker 2: up to your sandwich artist and you'd be really polite,
Speaker 2: maybe even compliment them, be really friendly with them. Then
Speaker 2: ask for a chicken tariaky sandwich, and I'll always give
Speaker 2: you a bigger scoop than a sanded scoop. Just be polite,
Speaker 2: be polite to you, treat your sandwich artist with respect,
Speaker 2: and they will respect you with extra meat.
Speaker 1: That's it. They will give you that. They will bring
Speaker 1: you the high quality.
Speaker 2: Art exactly right. So yeah, A twenty two short twenty
Speaker 2: short films summerre of four foot two. I've I think
Speaker 2: I'm saying, twenty short films at Springfields, some are four
Speaker 2: foot two. Yeah. Just an incredible episode, one that I
Speaker 2: never really appreciated enough until I was older. But as
Speaker 2: so other iconic moments, iconic quote from me, this is
Speaker 2: one of my favorite bart Millhouse interactions. Bart is horrible here,
Speaker 2: but he's being horrible because he's just so embarrassed, doesn't
Speaker 2: know how to handle this new found, oh I'm not
Speaker 2: cool situation. So when Millhouse is are we in, it
Speaker 2: says no, they must have seen you. Millhouse is a
Speaker 2: little I'm a I've always loved that interaction, as horrible
Speaker 2: as it is. But yeah, so many What are some
Speaker 2: of the moments that stand out for you from this
Speaker 2: Folkes of me, it's the Marge line, and it's the
Speaker 2: it's Bart there as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, just bark his dirty tactics to try and
Speaker 1: get on side because he's still so sure that he
Speaker 1: can win these kids over. I think it's less of
Speaker 1: a well, it is quite a selfish thing. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a from a deep insecure place as well, and
Speaker 1: that you know he resorts to bullying at the end
Speaker 1: and to go, oh, Lisa's actually a nerd look at
Speaker 1: this and shows the retrospectacus again all time a joke,
Speaker 1: which is such a simpler thing when they're opening the
Speaker 1: books in the first one slash just wonderful little joke.
Speaker 2: A little in joke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but the way that turns on Bart and
Speaker 1: then he does end up feeling guilty about that. I
Speaker 1: think the episode just does such a nice job and
Speaker 1: like especially when Lisa lays it out for him and
Speaker 1: grabs his coloring a mean little sneak. That is just
Speaker 1: such an excellent line read by Yardley Smith. There and
Speaker 1: then when Marge comes in the room quickly snaps back
Speaker 1: into place, and that the revealed that Milhouse was there
Speaker 1: the whole time. Whole time. Oh bye, I Cantival so good.
Speaker 2: He's just so unimportant that they don't even care. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that episode is just fantastical. Let's move on now to
Speaker 2: one and a later season one that I still haven't watched.
Speaker 2: I haven't had time to watch all all these ones.
Speaker 2: But the saga of Carl now is this way Karl
Speaker 2: meets his parents.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, this has been a while since I've watched
Speaker 1: this one. I debated putting it on my list because, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's quite a vacation episode. But
Speaker 1: I mean, the Homer goes to Iceland, that's.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, he finds out his Iceland heritage. So basically,
Speaker 2: this is the brief synopsis own Google. It says friendships
Speaker 2: are tested when Carl skips down with two hundred thousand
Speaker 2: dollars winning from a lottery ticket he bought with Homer, Moe,
Speaker 2: and Lenny. I do remember watching this one and it
Speaker 2: annoyed me because it retconned his heritage.
Speaker 1: I remember.
Speaker 2: I can't remember why it didn't make sense, but I
Speaker 2: remember it not making sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a bit loosey goosey with the story, but
Speaker 1: it also does something interesting in the Yeah, Carl makes
Speaker 1: off with the money and then he just does a runner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just does a runner, but also like plays down
Speaker 1: the friendship between him and the other ba flies and
Speaker 1: also that it kind of doesn't make sense because like
Speaker 1: he's also co workers with Homer and Lenny, but he
Speaker 1: diminishes their friendship and it's so heartbreaking. But one of them,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's Lenny, just like he's still our Carl.
Speaker 1: They fight for him and it ends up really sticking
Speaker 1: the landing that episode, I thought, even though it took
Speaker 1: a bit of a bumpy road to get in there.
Speaker 1: But I think it features Sigur Ross as well, so
Speaker 1: that's wonderful to see.
Speaker 2: One a classic I threw on my list as well
Speaker 2: because Marge is the one taking a vacation here much
Speaker 2: deserved vacation Homer alone, another episode much like Summer of
Speaker 2: four foot two, an episode that I didn't appreciate until
Speaker 2: I was much older, maybe because Nikola has taken a
Speaker 2: couple of business ships for work in the last couple
Speaker 2: of years, and I've now found myself going, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: home here. But my favorite, I think my favorite line
Speaker 2: the whole one, whole episode, not my favorite one always
Speaker 2: stands out to me is you know and related to
Speaker 2: me because Marge's leaving much like Nikola. She's like, don't worry,
Speaker 2: I've got this plan and she explains it, make sure
Speaker 2: you do this, makes you do that, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: don't worry, I've got to run it hom agoing Cat
Speaker 2: in the furnace.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We like to think that we've got this. I had
Speaker 2: it all under control. But it's just home mo. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: sure you cat in the furnace so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It is a great way to just like reassure
Speaker 1: that everything's going to be okay with something very unreassure.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, a quote that posits in my mind as well.
Speaker 2: But it's just such a great story as well, great
Speaker 2: setup in that, and it doesn't have to necessarily be
Speaker 2: a wife. Now it could be just a parent. Parenthood
Speaker 2: is hard and a lot of little stresses that all
Speaker 2: build up. So you know, they they want their sandwiches
Speaker 2: made a certain way for school, and you know, got
Speaker 2: to pick up their shoes after when they walk in
Speaker 2: the house. You're gonna vacuum every day. All these grievances
Speaker 2: that aren't big deals, but when you get a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of them bottled up inside, it can just come
Speaker 2: out and explode. And Marge likes to think herself as
Speaker 2: a strong woman, which she is. She can get through
Speaker 2: these things, but sometimes it just all comes out. We've
Speaker 2: all had a moment our life where we're just gone.
Speaker 2: I just need to vent. I don't necessarily mean half
Speaker 2: the shit that I'm venting about, but I need to
Speaker 2: get this out of my system. Can you just I
Speaker 2: don't want to hear a response. I just want you
Speaker 2: to sit there and listen to me vent out here
Speaker 2: and Marge in the car, which she's just sitting there.
Speaker 2: She doesn't really really know why, but I love the
Speaker 2: guy walks up to the mirror, look leader, this better
Speaker 2: be good.
Speaker 1: And then just her raw like I am a fan
Speaker 1: of death, metal view death metal music, and she could
Speaker 1: give some of those vocalis a run for their money
Speaker 1: in that moment, and that is just brilliantly animated as well,
Speaker 1: the little flex of spit hitting the window and that
Speaker 1: just going oh yeah, I mean he recognized that. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: she's having a bad day. She's been asked to do
Speaker 1: a million things and none of them are going right.
Speaker 1: It's just yeah, she's having a bad day, and she
Speaker 1: justified when she snapped.
Speaker 2: So this is where she goes to Rancho Relaxo and
Speaker 2: we get a great Phil Heartman appearance here as Troum McClure.
Speaker 2: Oh Gregory is it Gregory? Yeah? On my life, Yes,
Speaker 2: Rancho Relaxo. I think we've we all need a week
Speaker 2: and a way Rancho Relaxo. It just seems like a
Speaker 2: great place. I've always particularly loved the animation of when
Speaker 2: Marge is in the bath and she just sort of
Speaker 2: sinks into the water and comes back out and her
Speaker 2: hair is gone down. I feel like it just can't
Speaker 2: help but just feel relaxed watching that. It's so satisfying,
Speaker 2: like she just looks so chilled, and it's just nice
Speaker 2: seeing Marge a character who gets not using abuse, but
Speaker 2: taking for granted a lot Marge. Just to seeing her
Speaker 2: relaxed and just not a care in the world. It's lovely.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it's an interesting thing as well that she's
Speaker 1: mostly following the suggestions of the Phil Hartman Hotel pre
Speaker 1: organized plans that you can take advantage of when you're
Speaker 1: at the resort. And then he's just like, do what
Speaker 1: you want to do at the end, and that she does.
Speaker 1: And she knows exactly what she wants. She wants the
Speaker 1: hot fudge Sunday, a bottle of tequila and Thelma and
Speaker 1: Louise and a bath. And it's wonderful, yeah, because she
Speaker 1: knows what she wants. But she always feels guilty. She
Speaker 1: feels guilty looking after herself as I've gonn look after
Speaker 1: everybody else. Marge reminds me, I'm sure reminds me of
Speaker 1: a lot of people, but she reminds me of my mum.
Speaker 1: My Mum is one of those people who is just
Speaker 1: always thinking about everybody else but themselves. When we're having
Speaker 1: dinner with the family, she's always still in the kitchen
Speaker 1: getting things and like, Mom, sit down and peak, I'll
Speaker 1: be there in a minute. I think Mom enjoys doing it.
Speaker 1: But my mum is very much Marge in the sense
Speaker 1: that she feels guilty if she ever buys.
Speaker 2: Something for a self or does something for herself. And
Speaker 2: it's just you sort of say to it, Mum, treat
Speaker 2: yourself to something. It's okay. But Marge is very much
Speaker 2: like that. And here that's where she goes. When Tron
Speaker 2: mccluire says treat yourself, she goes, you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: gunna exactly what I want and no one's gonna stop me.
Speaker 2: And it's just actually said it's a great moment, yeah.
Speaker 1: And really selling the metaphor there when she sinks into
Speaker 1: the bath and her hair actually gets let down.
Speaker 2: She's been I haven't even I didn't even put that together.
Speaker 2: I just love the visual of it. But you're right,
Speaker 2: she's letting her hair down. Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean because yeah, she's obviously had fun
Speaker 1: doing all the hall of skirt making and cigar making
Speaker 1: and just all the other things they had to offer.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that moment was so nice in direct contrast
Speaker 1: to the horrible time that Homers losing Maggie.
Speaker 2: Maggie, she ends up going looking for Marge because that's
Speaker 2: actually a nice Maggie stories well, because we realized Maggie
Speaker 2: has a connection with Marge, just one of the sort
Speaker 2: of the unbreakable connections that the between two characters that
Speaker 2: the show has. But I love when she's driving the
Speaker 2: car and she gives the guy there. Yeah, and at
Speaker 2: the end when Wiggan returns the baby, I mean, let's
Speaker 2: be honest, in the real world, horrifying home is a
Speaker 2: terrible parent. He should have been looking after the baby.
Speaker 2: The fact that the baby could get out and do
Speaker 2: this terrible. But when he just he's just so thankful
Speaker 2: that you return the baby. Wigan even just went just
Speaker 2: don't do it again.
Speaker 1: Again, much like the guy at the beginning is like, ah,
Speaker 1: you've had a bad day.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, okay, come on, next one here, let's go
Speaker 2: for another newer one. Dude, Where's My Ratch? We've reviewed
Speaker 2: this one as well. What was it about, dude, Wear's
Speaker 2: my rash? That you particularly enjoyed.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is an episode that a
Speaker 1: lot of people love, but for me personally, this is
Speaker 1: just one that I one of the early teens episodes
Speaker 1: that I still happen to record on a VHS because
Speaker 1: I was still doing that in the year two thousand
Speaker 1: and two or something when this came out.
Speaker 2: Recording episodes up until season seventeen I've worked out, or
Speaker 2: maybe the season eighteen Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, because I do remember the last episode I
Speaker 1: recorded on VHS was Smart and Smarter from season fifteen,
Speaker 1: the Maggie Smart episode. Yeah, but yeah, this one. So
Speaker 1: this was one that I ended up watching a lot.
Speaker 1: And it's a very goofy episode. It's got that first act,
Speaker 1: fuck you, which makes it also a Christmas episode technically,
Speaker 1: but the focus is more on the family going to
Speaker 1: a dude ranch for the week, and Lisa's got this
Speaker 1: crush on this teenage boy, and Homer and Bart are
Speaker 1: fighting beavers and everyone's got kind of their own little adventure,
Speaker 1: and in that way, it's just a very goofy, almost
Speaker 1: like sketch humor based episode. But I do have a
Speaker 1: terrible amount of fun with it, and it does have
Speaker 1: plot points where it needs to in terms of the
Speaker 1: fascical misunderstanding of Lisa thinks her CRUSH's girlfriend is coming
Speaker 1: into town turns out to be her sister, and sister
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, accidentally puts her in the rock on the
Speaker 1: middle of a rapid lake and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: But it's just a goofy little adventure and yeah, I
Speaker 1: have a lot of fun with this one.
Speaker 2: This is the one that has David Burn and Talking
Speaker 2: Head singing the song about Flanners at Homerkret.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually I was rewatching and I was just saying
Speaker 1: to my girlfriend, like, it's one of these things where
Speaker 1: as a kid it bothered me. But then I realized later, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's the joke is that during that Flanders song, they
Speaker 1: I have spelled Flanders right once and they spell it
Speaker 1: different every time. That okay, Yeah, one of them's f
Speaker 1: l A and rds, which would make it Flanner does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as the syllables fit the song though
Speaker 2: what they were seeing at that point in time.
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Speaker 2: and I want to hear your thoughts because you've reviewed
Speaker 2: all these episodes of teen seasons, right, there seems to
Speaker 2: be a point in time in the last maybe two
Speaker 2: or three season. We're season twenty now, just started season twenty,
Speaker 2: but I feel like, remember about season seventeen eighteen ish,
Speaker 2: They've written Lisa differently. Lisa feels like she is more
Speaker 2: inclined to do horrible things for selfish reasons than she
Speaker 2: used to. She had moments in the past, but for
Speaker 2: the most part, she was always the one saying, you
Speaker 2: can't be doing this, it's not the right thing to do.
Speaker 2: But you know, she had the Lisa's rival where she
Speaker 2: changes the telltale heart, that kind of thing, right, So
Speaker 2: she has those moments here, but she it's more Bart
Speaker 2: sort of saying no, this is what you need to do,
Speaker 2: and She's like, oh yeah, okay. She surely goes along
Speaker 2: with Bart's scheme in those days where now it feels
Speaker 2: like she's just doing stuff because she has selfish reasons.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure whether that's the direction of the character
Speaker 2: that I liked, because there was an episode we just
Speaker 2: did recently where Marge's mother came in. It's the one
Speaker 2: where she passes away, Yeah, and Lisa stole jewels off
Speaker 2: her necklace, off her bedside table and stuff, and I'm thinking, Lisa,
Speaker 2: isn't this character. It just seems weird how the Lisa
Speaker 2: character has shifted to be more selfish just for pure
Speaker 2: selfish reasons.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, it's really against the archetype, isn't it. I
Speaker 1: think they get away in this one here because she's
Speaker 1: just a bit love stupid. But it's then other episodes
Speaker 1: like Little Big Mum where she pretends that her family
Speaker 1: is from a Native American tribe, and it's just that
Speaker 1: one's a big whipp for me because it just doesn't
Speaker 1: feel on on brand for Lisa. In the slight stat
Speaker 1: is that a little is.
Speaker 2: He shows a little Big Mother, Little Big Mom's on
Speaker 2: where where Marge breaks her legs, isn't isn't it?
Speaker 1: Oh, maybe a little Big Girl or something. I don't
Speaker 1: know the one you.
Speaker 2: Mean where she but yeah, she can flat out just
Speaker 2: lies and pretends that she's Native American. And I remember
Speaker 2: guy and I going, what the hell? Yeah, this is
Speaker 2: not what Lisa would do. Oh yeah, it is called
Speaker 2: Little Big Girl.
Speaker 1: Sorry. Yeah, yeah, there's so many episodes with so many
Speaker 1: similar titles. You know, you're talking about Mona Simpson before
Speaker 1: the amount of Mona Lisa puns in a Simpsons title,
Speaker 1: And yeah, pretty ridiculous at the moment, but yeah, a
Speaker 1: little big And that's also the one where Bart starts
Speaker 1: dating a pregnant girl.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, that's right. Yeah, man, the Simpson's got wacky.
Speaker 1: It still has one of my favorite jokes in it
Speaker 1: from that one. That is still one that I quote
Speaker 1: to this day, despite an episode being one that I
Speaker 1: don't want to return to. Because Bart gets his driver's license,
Speaker 1: then almost a throwback to Bart on the road and
Speaker 1: Lisa's criticizing his driving. Your hands are meant to be
Speaker 1: at ten and two not four and nothing.
Speaker 2: Yes that I do remember that. It's a great line. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because that's how I drive. And yeah, I often think
Speaker 2: of it. Let's get into one that's more from the
Speaker 2: Golden era. It is one that I was tossed up
Speaker 2: whether put it on the list or not. We've gone
Speaker 2: with it because hey, why not. It's a great episode
Speaker 2: of like talking about it. It's not necessarily a vacation
Speaker 2: it's more a Homer gets a job episode. It's Homo polooser. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's not really a vacation here. Homi goes on a
Speaker 2: road trip with the groupies because he gets a new job.
Speaker 2: Would call it a vacation, but again, Homer Poalooser one
Speaker 2: of the better guests episodes of all time. I sort
Speaker 2: of put it on there with you know, Homer at
Speaker 2: the Bat where they get a whole bunch of baseball players.
Speaker 2: This one he wlod bunch of musicians. We talked about
Speaker 2: in part one of this of this podcast, how I
Speaker 2: spent much strong a vacation, A whole bunch of rock
Speaker 2: stars from that year all at the camp together. So
Speaker 2: I feel like you're gonna get a whole bunch of musicians.
Speaker 2: This was a really good way to handle it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. And you know, one of I'm sure
Speaker 2: your favorite musicians are at least wrestling promoters in Billy
Speaker 2: Corgan in this episode, delivering one of the all time lines. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins, Homer Simpson, smiling, polite, Well, let's
Speaker 2: be honest, Dan delivered the singer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's right. Billy Corgan was just there. Yes,
Speaker 1: and he still gets it to this day as well.
Speaker 1: A little part of me likes to think that that
Speaker 1: there was just improved by Dan. He's a brilliant improv artist.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I reckon it fits though, because you know,
Speaker 1: it's the summer festival, and yeah, it brings me back
Speaker 1: to going to the big day outs and sound waves
Speaker 1: and hope fully more good things festivals are happening in
Speaker 1: the future. I had fun at the recent one of those.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and it's just such a fun lineup of
Speaker 1: bands as well. And in Yes, Smashing Pumpkins, Cypress Hill
Speaker 1: and Sonic Youth and Peter Frampton. This one actually just
Speaker 1: became like a listening list for me because I think
Speaker 1: I knew half of them but not the other half.
Speaker 1: Certainly didn't know Sonic Youth at the time. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: their wild version of the Simpsons theme to take out
Speaker 1: the takeout the episode is just yeah, what a great band.
Speaker 2: I think I'm a pal loser as one of the
Speaker 2: perfect episodes to help you realize that you're older because
Speaker 2: you watch it now, and some one of those ones
Speaker 2: where you realize, Oh, when I watched this for the
Speaker 2: first time, I were the kids making fun of my dad.
Speaker 2: I am now the dad. Yeah, even though you're not
Speaker 2: a father, you are still in homer shoes, going Hey,
Speaker 2: what do you mean all these shows, all these songs
Speaker 2: and musicians that are liked in oldies. What do you mean, Oh,
Speaker 2: it's twenty five years ago? Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh shit, No, I mean I felt that at the
Speaker 1: festival where I'm like, why isn't there enough places to sit?
Speaker 1: Why aren't there enough shady areas? Why aren't they playing
Speaker 1: more of the bands that I liked from twenty five
Speaker 1: years ago?
Speaker 2: I met, I met. I met a twenty three year
Speaker 2: old yesterday who had never watched The Simpsons.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, she just went she has arms, never really washed them,
Speaker 2: but it was always on TV. She goes, was it
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, Ah, by the time you were old enough
Speaker 2: to sort of start watching TV would been six twenty
Speaker 2: nine ten YouTube streaming. Oh shit, Oh no.
Speaker 1: I mean, wasn't it great that, even though we grew
Speaker 1: up with such limited options that we still had the Simpsons. Objectively,
Speaker 1: I think one of the greatest jos of all time.
Speaker 2: I I feel like we're the last generation to have
Speaker 2: attention spands as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my riddle and prescription would say otherwise.
Speaker 2: But just I've always this is just me going full
Speaker 2: home and home for loser. Can we do away with
Speaker 2: the skip the credits, right, Yeah, especially if it's a
Speaker 2: show that has like a ten second intro, because they
Speaker 2: don't even make intros anymore because they show just go
Speaker 2: what's the point of making an intro? Everyone just skips
Speaker 2: it anyway, right? But I feel for me, I've always
Speaker 2: said on the podcast, the intro is what gets you
Speaker 2: into gets you into the mindset of the show. How
Speaker 2: many shows do you remember from you when you were
Speaker 2: a kid? I love that show. You actually remember anything
Speaker 2: abut the show? You just remember the theme song. It's
Speaker 2: the theme song. You know. There's so good theme songs
Speaker 2: anymore because I don't fucking make them because we have
Speaker 2: skip credits. Now do away the skip credits and bring
Speaker 2: back theme songs, I say, yeah.
Speaker 1: The one that bugs me the most is the end
Speaker 1: credits minimization, and I wish that was just a setting
Speaker 1: I could change, because the worst one is Bob's Burgers
Speaker 1: because they're so good with having guest stars, and the
Speaker 1: second that gets to the part of the credit screen
Speaker 1: that has the guest stars, they shrink it. And also
Speaker 1: Bob's Burgers put in effort in the credits as well
Speaker 1: and generally come up with this original song for it,
Speaker 1: and they've got like, yeah, cute little animation things, and
Speaker 1: then it just minimizes it to say next episode, and
Speaker 1: it's like, no, just I'll get there, trust me.
Speaker 2: The best example of that fucking something up I've seen
Speaker 2: was the end of Psycho, where it's just him staring
Speaker 2: at the camera, right, and it's so unsettling because he's
Speaker 2: staring at the camera. You're like, oh, this guy's crazy, right,
Speaker 2: But no, it minimizes so he's just in the bottom
Speaker 2: left corner and it's like showing you what else is
Speaker 2: on Netflix or whatever, and you go, you've just ruined
Speaker 2: the fucking alf for Hitchco movie.
Speaker 1: What are you doing. I'm not finished this candy bar yet.
Speaker 1: I will open another one when I'm ready.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right, Yeah, and yeah.
Speaker 1: And I like to sit in credits as well, just
Speaker 1: for a little while, like I'm not actually going, oh,
Speaker 1: they were the grip on this movie, you know, But
Speaker 1: I do like to sit with the final score that
Speaker 1: they're putting out and just sort of use that as
Speaker 1: my moment to reflect in the thing I just watched
Speaker 1: in the credits and yeah, maybe catch a couple of
Speaker 1: names here and there. Yeah, it's it's annoying. It should
Speaker 1: just be a setting.
Speaker 2: Because all I was saying, I want to get into
Speaker 2: an episode that I still have not seen. You obviously
Speaker 2: you have, You've included in the list I wanted to include.
Speaker 2: I thought you were writing this first, but it's not
Speaker 2: at all. So I want to include Viva ned Flanders
Speaker 2: because it's kind of like a similar to mar Coming
Speaker 2: and get Away to mention Blax. So Homer takes Lenard
Speaker 2: to takes Flanders to Las Vegas. But this one here
Speaker 2: you've got is living Lapura Vida. Yeah, what is this episode?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: So this is the Simpsons go to Costa Rica. So
Speaker 1: Kirk van the van Houghton's rather have a regular group
Speaker 1: getaway to Costa Rica, and they it's like an exclusive
Speaker 1: little club like they regularly invite the Hibberts and Chalmers
Speaker 1: and his daughter Shana are on this holiday as well,
Speaker 1: and yeah, the Simpsons managed to secure and invite this year,
Speaker 1: and it becomes like this sort of little mystery of
Speaker 1: how the everyone's able to afford this sort of thing,
Speaker 1: and like there's this interesting thing where like Lisa learns earlier, oh,
Speaker 1: marg and Homer are really going to have to struggle
Speaker 1: to pay for this one, and then she gets anxiety
Speaker 1: the whole time about spending too much money. And Kirk's
Speaker 1: doing this thing because he's leading the group vacation. He's
Speaker 1: just like, we'll just put it on the bill and
Speaker 1: you know, I'll fix it up now, but everyone you
Speaker 1: know will fix it up, fix me up at the end,
Speaker 1: and Lisa's just got this anxiety and it's like, how's
Speaker 1: anyone relaxing right now? And meanwhile, Patty and her new
Speaker 1: girlfriend Evelyn also got invited on this trip, and it
Speaker 1: turns out Evelyn and Homer are just two peas in
Speaker 1: a pod. She's this Southern fried girl that loves beer
Speaker 1: and the sport of corn holing much like Homer does.
Speaker 1: As we know, it's one of his passions that so
Speaker 1: the episode says anyway, but yeah, they bond and they
Speaker 1: be badag shit on. Just to clarify for anyone who
Speaker 1: doesn't know. It's like you throw a bean bag in
Speaker 1: like this little box thing. It's an actual sport. Go
Speaker 1: look it up.
Speaker 2: Is that the one has the holes?
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's one. Maybe it's multiple,
Speaker 1: but like.
Speaker 2: You know, the bean bag toss, but sort of on
Speaker 2: a slam. You gotta yes, yeah, is that it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? That's cornhole.
Speaker 2: My son Elliott, same name, obviously, Elliott loves it. Absolutely
Speaker 2: loves that game. Loves it.
Speaker 1: Oh there you go. He's a little sportsman as well,
Speaker 1: isn't he cricket?
Speaker 2: Football, you name? He just plays it. It's one of
Speaker 2: those kids that just watches something on TV and goes,
Speaker 2: ye're up, let's say you do it. Okay, let's good,
Speaker 2: let's just go do it then. Yeah, right, because I
Speaker 2: picked him up for you as he goes to holiday
Speaker 2: program Elliott over the school holidays on Mondays and Tuesdays.
Speaker 2: I picked him up yesterday and the guy's playing cricket
Speaker 2: like this. This is the he's about twenty five. The
Speaker 2: guy is there like one of the instructors or whatever
Speaker 2: that helps me over the holiday program at school, and
Speaker 2: he goes I usually have to underarm the balls to
Speaker 2: these kids because they can't like swing the bat. And
Speaker 2: Elliott said to me, bowld pace and I sort of
Speaker 2: like laughed myself and went, okay, sure, mate, whatever, Yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: And I bowled it to him and he has no
Speaker 2: pace and then so I bowled it as hard as
Speaker 2: I could and he smacked me for it. And I
Speaker 2: was like, kid's six. He goes, does he play cricket?
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, he just plays in the backyard.
Speaker 2: He's like, I've never seen anything like it.
Speaker 1: Unreal.
Speaker 2: He goes, and then he's and then he asked me
Speaker 2: if he can bol pace to me, and he bowl
Speaker 2: paced and got me out. He goes. I couldn't believe
Speaker 2: he got hees. I'm twenty five, he's six, and he
Speaker 2: genuinely got me out.
Speaker 1: Already having that moment. Ever, my son has already gotten
Speaker 1: me out. He's like, you're in charge of the family now, dude. Mate.
Speaker 2: When Elliott bowls me out in the backyard after I'm
Speaker 2: genuinely trying to smack him for a six, it's an
Speaker 2: unsettling moment.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this one, well, oh yeah, So Homer and
Speaker 1: Patty's new girlfriend Evelyn are.
Speaker 2: Just played by Assaysio Wikipedia Fortune five stuffing stuff yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: the comedian.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, she's doing an unreal job as well.
Speaker 1: She's just yeah real, yeah, Southern American girl who's very folks.
Speaker 1: He got lots of quote for everything. And Home is
Speaker 1: just totally charmed by her, and just not in a
Speaker 1: like Romani roy Oil. It's just he's found a new
Speaker 1: best friend and they're getting on so well. And then
Speaker 1: it becomes a thing of Patty and Marge being like,
Speaker 1: your partner's a bad influence on my partner, No, yours is,
Speaker 1: and also Marge like it's another weird plot point to
Speaker 1: see the Simpsons doing. But Marge wants to get the
Speaker 1: perfect Instagram photo to show off because normally her feet
Speaker 1: is just you know her, here's the housework I did,
Speaker 1: and she wants, you know, she wants the nice gram
Speaker 1: photo of her and Homer in front of the waterfall.
Speaker 1: And yeah, Evelyn just keeps fucking it up and it's
Speaker 1: just got It's one of these ensemble episodes that I
Speaker 1: love what the Simpsons do in the new era, where
Speaker 1: they're trying different character combinations, you know, bringing in Superintendent
Speaker 1: Charmers and Shawna into the fold as well, and Millhouse
Speaker 1: is here, but he's not attached to Bart. He's trying
Speaker 1: to impress one of doctor Hibbitt's kids and being a
Speaker 1: really annoying, yappy little kids. Are you impressed at this?
Speaker 1: I deal like Lego still, what's your favorite college act?
Speaker 1: You know, just being a really annoying little kid. Well,
Speaker 1: Bart and Lister, Yeah, trying to solve the mystery of
Speaker 1: how the hell Kirk and Luanne managed to get this
Speaker 1: place and pay for this trip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to episode out.
Speaker 1: You've sold me on it. Yeah. This was, yeah, an
Speaker 1: absolute wonderful one. And yeah we reviewed it on our
Speaker 1: podcast with the Real Gym's who's just an absolute treasure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he came on, we did. She's Cratchy and Puccy.
Speaker 2: I believe him and I did. Yes, another old timer. Yes,
Speaker 2: I did see a clip that Simpsons shared. I'm assuming
Speaker 2: it's this week's episode. Maybe I was sure her showing
Speaker 2: Bart her boobs. Bart falls, Bart falls on the sword
Speaker 2: for her, so she she gets caught shoplifted and he says, no,
Speaker 2: they're for me, and he gets he takes the rap
Speaker 2: and she goes, here's your present. And she lifts her
Speaker 2: shirt up and shows him her boobs.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that was like a season twenty four episodes.
Speaker 2: Oh I saw the click cut shared. I assumed it
Speaker 2: was a new one. Yeah, I've never seen it. Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they kiss at some point and like because
Speaker 1: he's like Jimba wants him to be her sha. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's something like that. Yeah. I don't remember liking it, so.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: But I mean that's a weird because I think people
Speaker 1: are kind of neither here nor they're on Shauna because
Speaker 1: she's just one of these new weird characters and her
Speaker 1: catchphrases I'm shut at. But they give her a bit
Speaker 1: more to do in this episode, and they actually fill
Speaker 1: her out with actual character traits and it's compelling. And yeah,
Speaker 1: while all these other stories are going off, she's having
Speaker 1: relationship problems with Jimbo and they use that to like
Speaker 1: go to act break with these fake shocking revelations which
Speaker 1: just have nothing to do with the main story. But
Speaker 1: I'm not selling how actually funny it is. But it's
Speaker 1: just it's a really good job that they do in
Speaker 1: this episode. Again, just one of these absolute gems from
Speaker 1: the New era.
Speaker 2: Something that is funny. It's the last episode we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about today here in part two of the
Speaker 2: best vacation episodes. I know there's others, but you know,
Speaker 2: we don't want to hit people for too long. It
Speaker 2: is Barba's Australia. This is the vacation episodes of all
Speaker 2: vocation episodes, as far as in the Australian Simpsons fan
Speaker 2: is aware. When I was a kid, I don't think
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed this one as much as I probably
Speaker 2: should have got in quite notice or pick up on
Speaker 2: all the subtle references that this episode had. There's just
Speaker 2: so much a love about this. When this one gives
Speaker 2: us Bruno and Tobias.
Speaker 1: It's just taken on a life of their own. Australian
Speaker 1: Simpsons mean culture.
Speaker 2: A hugest fan because I one thing I will I'll
Speaker 2: never use the sea bomb in anything Forefinger just count related, right,
Speaker 2: So I'm not a huge fan of Tobias memes, but
Speaker 2: just the innocence of him the commission, but it gave
Speaker 2: us the Dollary dues. Now, this is something that has
Speaker 2: just lived on forever. It's something that I still use
Speaker 2: to this day and kids are now using it again.
Speaker 2: Not because it's a Simpsons reference, but because it's a
Speaker 2: Bluey reference. Bluey real creators of Bluey are huge Simpsons
Speaker 2: fan So the Simpsons quotes and tidbits throughout the entire
Speaker 2: Blue series because the guys who make it are huge
Speaker 2: Simpsons fans, right. And the guy who makes the Simpsons music, jeofh. Bush,
Speaker 2: who came on the show to do a review of
Speaker 2: songs in the Key of Springfield, the album that we
Speaker 2: all love when we were kids. He was heavily influenced
Speaker 2: by that CD. And that's that was like his biggest
Speaker 2: influence for the music of Bluey was the Simpsons music. Right. Interesting,
Speaker 2: So you watch Blue Now and you go, oh, that's
Speaker 2: a Simpsons gave. That's a Simpsons line, and they call
Speaker 2: money dollarydo's, I'm Bluey. So kids are now walking around
Speaker 2: saying dollary doo's not because they're Simpsons fans, but because
Speaker 2: they're Bluey fans. But because of the Simpsons, the blue
Speaker 2: and now do it. So the legend lives on.
Speaker 1: So funny an American thing of this is what an
Speaker 1: Australian would call it has become exactly what an Australian
Speaker 1: would call it.
Speaker 2: That's what Australia would call it. Yeah. The thing with
Speaker 2: Bluey now is though it kind of feels like they've
Speaker 2: sold out. It's not the term. But now that Disney
Speaker 2: have bought it out and it's going to be a Disneyland,
Speaker 2: we kind of go, oh, it's not like it's not
Speaker 2: ours anymore. Yeah, I get why. I get why you
Speaker 2: do it because you know, hey, chase the chase the bank,
Speaker 2: chase the money. But the thing is Bluey felt because
Speaker 2: my kids love Blueing. I think when you're a parent,
Speaker 2: you just Blue just becomes a part of your life
Speaker 2: because Blue is the biggest show in the world. But
Speaker 2: you watched it going It's so great that this little
Speaker 2: Aussie show has become the biggest show kids show in
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 2: But now now it's at Disneyland. Now it's owned by Disney.
Speaker 2: Now they're making episodes exclusive for Disney plus that Australians
Speaker 2: ain't gonna get access to.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Now, now the ovisional writers aren't working on the show anymore.
Speaker 2: It's now Disney writers and they're working because they're making
Speaker 2: a Blue movie. So the original creator and writer, he's
Speaker 2: now working on the movie and they've got other people
Speaker 2: working on the show now, and I'm like, it's just
Speaker 2: doesn't feel the same anymore.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a little worrying, you know, because some of
Speaker 1: the weaker parts of the teens era were during production
Speaker 1: of the Simpsons movie. Ah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why, though he's gone, I'm going to focus.
Speaker 2: We're going to focus on the movie and make sure
Speaker 2: the movie is quality and you guys can work on
Speaker 2: the show. I feel that the Simpsons, there's two different
Speaker 2: reasons that it could be it's not gonna work because
Speaker 2: they're new writers or whatever. I'm not too sure. With
Speaker 2: the Simpsons movie though, they tried to double handle and
Speaker 2: that's where the quality did. Yeah, and I feel like
Speaker 2: the movie and the show suffered as a result.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that season fifteen to eighteen is a particularly weak
Speaker 1: error of the show. Definitely.
Speaker 2: I never really noticed. I thought the show was fine.
Speaker 2: I feel like season nineteen was probably the one that
Speaker 2: it stood out the most. That felt like, oh, the
Speaker 2: quality had dropped because season they were working on season
Speaker 2: eighteen and nineteen when the film came Like the film
Speaker 2: came out when those were airing, they were working on
Speaker 2: those ones at the same time. So season eighteen you
Speaker 2: can really start to see, Oh, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: episodes here that just feel like a bunch of stuff
Speaker 2: that's been slapped together. There's no real what's this episode about.
Speaker 2: It's just as guys likes to stayd the podcast, a
Speaker 2: bunch of stuff happening. It's just that it was like
Speaker 2: a bunch of ideas going, yeah, that' the couldn't been
Speaker 2: a full episode. That could be the start of it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that onely cou't before, and that can just be we'll
Speaker 2: merge that together and that could be like the middle
Speaker 2: act and then we're just a lot of the episodes
Speaker 2: in season eighteen nineteen, I felt, I don't know whether
Speaker 2: you noticed this, It felt like they wrote episodes and
Speaker 2: I didn't realize they were at the end and went, oh,
Speaker 2: and by the way, now's the end, and there was
Speaker 2: no ending to the story. Did you notice that as
Speaker 2: well when you were reviewing them.
Speaker 1: It sort of happens in the twenties as well, like
Speaker 1: it's just oh, we're at twenty two minutes. That's lunch,
Speaker 1: you know, and.
Speaker 2: The story's going all of a sudden, it's just, oh,
Speaker 2: that's it. The one that stood out the most of me,
Speaker 2: that really annoyed me was e pluribus Wigham where oh
Speaker 2: Wiggam's now going for president? What what's happening here? And
Speaker 2: that's yeah, yeah, that.
Speaker 1: Is add personified that episode. It was.
Speaker 2: It was terrible. It was a terrible episode. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really hope there is still some quality control
Speaker 1: with Bluey because that is just such a special show
Speaker 1: in the It's not going for wacky, outlandish things. This
Speaker 1: it's all very home stuff, like it's stuff they would
Speaker 1: happen in the home.
Speaker 2: And particularly Australian homes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, Introducing Dave McCormack and he's bancusted to
Speaker 1: a wider audience is just I saw them a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago now and he's just like, all right,
Speaker 1: thanks for everybody for coming and checking out, and thank
Speaker 1: you for the Bluey fans as well for taking a
Speaker 1: chance on us. And yeah they're a wonderful band. That Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope, yeah, more people check out Custard. Yes he's
Speaker 1: the voice of bandit for those of you playing at home.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, sorry.
Speaker 2: They gave David who.
Speaker 1: Well yeah they wouldn't know because they can't sit through
Speaker 1: and read the credits because they keep fucking triggering them down.
Speaker 2: At stand with my kids. They kept saying, where's remote?
Speaker 2: Whe's remote? I was like, the intro goes for twenty
Speaker 2: do you feel like the fucking the world was ending?
Speaker 1: Like they gotta skip it. I'm like, just watch it.
Speaker 1: They're like, nah, just fucking watch the intro. Child that's
Speaker 1: a shame. It's a dope theme song.
Speaker 2: Not the Bluey one. It's the Muppet Babies one. They
Speaker 2: love muppert Babies as well, right, Ah, that was up.
Speaker 2: Babies goes from maybe twenty five. It's a new one.
Speaker 2: It's actually pretty good. It's a good kid show. Okay,
Speaker 2: at first it was CGI and I went out CGI.
Speaker 2: Muppet Babies No, and I watched it. I went pretty good.
Speaker 2: It goes about twenty five thirty seconds the intro song
Speaker 2: right for them Babies, so I can get it. It's longer,
Speaker 2: but he is I'm bloom over twenty seconds as well,
Speaker 2: but it's like it's twenty seconds. But sometimes Elliott can't
Speaker 2: find the remote. The closing credits come on and he
Speaker 2: wants to skip to the next one. God forbid us
Speaker 2: to sit through the fucking twenty seconds of closing credits.
Speaker 2: It's like it's the end of the world. But I
Speaker 2: think that's the queue to cue the closing credits of
Speaker 2: this podcast. That has been part two. Here we have
Speaker 2: to discussed part as Australia as a whole. So Barva's Australia, right,
Speaker 2: So we went off on a tangent dollar Dooo, let's
Speaker 2: get to Barbara's Australia. So this is the one that
Speaker 2: a lot a lot of people say, I've read online
Speaker 2: so many Australians didn't like it. And you talked I've
Speaker 2: talked about someone numerous times about and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: he was he's hated at the time. Yeah, I know
Speaker 2: that we did. I think it's a couple of people
Speaker 2: just wrote to the paper and you guys maybe got
Speaker 2: caught wind to that and that's it. Like, I know,
Speaker 2: I don't remember anyone hating this episode. My mum watched
Speaker 2: a couple of times with us. What would be on
Speaker 2: whilst we're watching, and she'd walk past she go ah,
Speaker 2: we don't talk like that, and I'm like, that's that's
Speaker 2: the joke.
Speaker 1: Though again it's very that's the joke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I think a generation of Australians I had
Speaker 2: to live through the era of everyone's talking like this, mate,
Speaker 2: whenever there's an aus on A Movies talking on this crocodile. Dundee, mate, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that doesn't happen anymore. That they're playing, really hammering that stereotype.
Speaker 2: The shrimp on the barbie. That one drives me insane.
Speaker 2: I go to England now they go, should we put
Speaker 2: some shrimps on the barbie? I'm like, you mean prawns? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And no. Yeah, I remember at the time there were
Speaker 1: Joyler's bastards like Alan Jones and Stanza Manic. Who oh
Speaker 1: this is so but yeah, those are joyless assholes anyway.
Speaker 1: And yeah, that stuff can bother you with the accent
Speaker 1: work and everything, because they actually kind of sound South
Speaker 1: African in this episode. But yeah, it knows this and
Speaker 1: it makes parody of it in the episode, and I
Speaker 1: feel like it is kind of criticism proof in that weight.
Speaker 1: Just from those elements, I agree with what you're saying
Speaker 1: at the top for the review for this one. But yeah,
Speaker 1: and that it's just permeated our culture so well and
Speaker 1: in so many interesting and funny ways. The Australian flag
Speaker 1: with the boot, you see that at festivals, Now.
Speaker 2: That's now the Australia Australia Day flag.
Speaker 1: You put up Yeah yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 2: me is an episode that brings me so much joy
Speaker 2: because I'm so glad that we got the Simpsons because
Speaker 2: they didn't go to many different countries in the Golden
Speaker 2: era at all, Right, and it makes me so good
Speaker 2: that they came to Australia when the Simpsons were still
Speaker 2: at their peak, and we just we have it to
Speaker 2: go back and watch whenever we want to. Right, We've
Speaker 2: got peak Simpsons taking the mickey out of our country,
Speaker 2: tongue and cheek in a fun way. We're all in
Speaker 2: on the joke. Because England had to wait till like
Speaker 2: season fourteen or whatever. The Simpsons weren't the Simpsons at
Speaker 2: their peak by that point. You know, we've got a
Speaker 2: really weird shoehorning guest appearances with this one. Here, it's
Speaker 2: not shoehorned. There's no Australian celebrities shoehorned into this at all. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just it is focusing on the Simpsons experiencing Australian culture.
Speaker 2: And that's what a Simpsons vacation episode should be, the
Speaker 2: Simpsons going and experiencing a new culture, not which guest
Speaker 2: star can we get on this week? Hey it's Prime
Speaker 2: Minister Tony Blair and he's going to rocket at the airport.
Speaker 2: What was that all about? You know what I mean? Oh,
Speaker 2: Homer rear ended the Queen. This, that and the other
Speaker 2: is all based on guest appearances. But versus Australia is
Speaker 2: the Simpsons coming here, experiencing Australian culture and realizing just
Speaker 2: how different and similar we both are. And I just
Speaker 2: love it for it. It's just it's fantastic that we're's
Speaker 2: Australian fans who I still to this day will say
Speaker 2: the Australian fans are the most hardcore Simpsons fans in
Speaker 2: the world. When it comes to nations, I think we
Speaker 2: are We're the most dedicated. We've got all the think
Speaker 2: of all the mean pages, a lot of most of
Speaker 2: them are based around from Australia, and I just think
Speaker 2: that we're so lucky to have that episode exist.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, because I was on the podcast Worst Episode Ever,
Speaker 1: which exclusively focuses on the less like Simpsons episodes, and
Speaker 1: they wanted me and BT to come on to review
Speaker 1: Bart versus Australia because well, because there is a controversial
Speaker 1: take that this is the Simpson a not the jumping
Speaker 1: the shark, but a jumping the shark moment, in that
Speaker 1: this would set up some of the worst trends of
Speaker 1: a vacation episode that would come later on. You know,
Speaker 1: you're talking about the England episode, but also like when
Speaker 1: they go to Ireland or when they go to Israel.
Speaker 1: It's just like this sort of checklist of things that
Speaker 1: they have to hit when they're making references to the
Speaker 1: place they're going. But yeah, that's the thing we came
Speaker 1: away from it going, no, this is one of the
Speaker 1: best episodes of the show.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Yes, they've done weaker versions of this later on. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they just absolutely hit the bullseye on this one. And
Speaker 1: it is a joyous experience to watch. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't feel like it's just going, oh, now we're at
Speaker 1: the Opera House. Now we're in the Simpson Desert. Haha,
Speaker 1: we're the Simpsons, you know, and making shitty jokes like that,
Speaker 1: and then oh what are you doing here? Prime Minister
Speaker 1: John Howard.
Speaker 2: They don't make any references to celebrities, they don't make
Speaker 2: any references really to landmarks. The landmarks they they have
Speaker 2: the statue of snake, you know, because we are convicts.
Speaker 2: That's what the Modern Day show was based on. That's
Speaker 2: where you sort of got look at you go, ah,
Speaker 2: that's not really our heritage. Our heritage is First Nations people.
Speaker 2: They were here for thousands of years before these people
Speaker 2: came here and invaded the country. So it's like that
Speaker 2: element of it feels somewhat dated now. But the thing
Speaker 2: is they didn't go, oh, the Simpsons are going to
Speaker 2: the Upper House. I don't agree with that take at all.
Speaker 2: He said, worst episode ever was the podcast this. Oh.
Speaker 1: They they didn't back that take. They were just saying,
Speaker 1: it's a take that exists Okay, then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't agree with that at all, because this
Speaker 2: one does the opposite. This one doesn't have any guest stars,
Speaker 2: this one doesn't have any landmarks, doesn't do any of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think worst episode ever. Were looking to
Speaker 1: have a break from watching new Simpsons and they were like, hey,
Speaker 1: we know these Australians. Here's an excuse to watch a
Speaker 1: good episode. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I do fine though, because we're an Australian fans, it's
Speaker 2: always one hey do you want to review bad versus
Speaker 2: Australia because you're Australian. That seems to be the one
Speaker 2: all the podcasts go to, like, hey, we're doing but Australia,
Speaker 2: would you like to talk about it? I'm like, again,
Speaker 2: I'll take the opportunity again to show them as well.
Speaker 2: The Simpsons memes, which yeah, depict Tobias as this Bunnings
Speaker 2: loving ecstasy, taking a potty mouth, the little thing.
Speaker 1: It's just they're like, what has happened to you guys
Speaker 1: over there? Old?
Speaker 2: I don't buy into any of those memes.
Speaker 1: Nah.
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Speaker 1: And starring Springfield. And I just noticed, yes, just this week,
Speaker 1: we've actually got a vacation episode of Sorts to review.
Speaker 1: We're going to be reviewing rug Rats Go Wild. So
Speaker 1: this is the two thousand and three movie, the third
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Speaker 1: also where Nancy Cart right, she's the star of this one,
Speaker 1: is taking over from Chuckie Finster because.
Speaker 2: The original course, yeah, busted away.
Speaker 1: She actually retired a few years before, but yeah, I
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Speaker 1: Christine Kavana.
Speaker 2: I believe her name is big, big, big friend of Jim's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh is that right? Yeah? Well yeah, And Nancy
Speaker 1: does like just a one to one job. It's just
Speaker 1: incredible and unbelief she's still the voice to Chucky for
Speaker 1: This Day for most of the stuff. So yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's just this wild thing again. Whenever we do this
Speaker 1: and like think about the cast of these movies, it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure this is going to be the only
Speaker 1: movie that has yeah, the voice of Bart Simpson, Bruce
Speaker 1: Willis and Flee from the Red Hot Chili Peppers in it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a little bit of a fun one,
Speaker 1: this one. So yeah, go check it out, starring Springfield
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Speaker 2: three season twenty review and so much to do on
Speaker 2: I don't even know it's well, it did dangerous curzis
Speaker 2: the last one. Let's such a bad taste in my mouth.
Speaker 2: I haven't touched it since. Let's have a look season
Speaker 2: twenty of The Simpsons. It will be It was episode
Speaker 2: five of the season, wasn't it. It's Homer and Lisa
Speaker 2: exchange crosswords? Is the next one we're doing.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a cute one. Yeah, that's very cute where
Speaker 1: Lisa becomes a cruciverbalist, which, as the episode teaches me,
Speaker 1: is someone who likes crosswords. And Yeah, there's an interesting
Speaker 1: thing with Gil where I'm very interested in your take
Speaker 1: on Gill in that episode because.
Speaker 2: Q episode reviewed by que people. What more could you want?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're getting very close to the show, jumping
Speaker 1: from four point three to sixteen point nine. How exciting.
Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned. I just feel like this as
Speaker 2: soon as that happens, I'll go, ugh, this ain't what
Speaker 2: it once was, because seeing it in fourth Streets is
Speaker 2: still someone feels like we're still in the older ear.
Speaker 2: I'm still in the Once this goes, it's going to go. Oh,
Speaker 2: I meant to strange New World Now. At the time,
Speaker 2: I was excited. I remember when I first went HG.
Speaker 2: I was excited for it. I was like, oh wow,
Speaker 2: this is cool, it's refreshing, it's new, its hip kids again.
Speaker 2: I won't be the anyone watching the Simpsons anymore. My
Speaker 2: friends are gonna love it again. And then I went,
Speaker 2: oh no, I'm still there. Still let lose a kid.
Speaker 2: No one likes the Simpsons. What am I doing? Can
Speaker 2: we move on to something different please? Anyway, guys, thank
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Speaker 2: Next week will be Homer lista exchange Crosswords with the
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Speaker 2: Index Star Slash starring Springfield. Thank you again, sir, thank
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