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We're gona be my Law eighteen 27 00:00:59.079 --> 00:01:00.240 plus terms conditions playing. 28 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:03.000 Host radio. 29 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:15.599 You are now listening to True Murder, The most Shocking 30 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:18.719 Killers in True Crime History and the authors that have 31 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:26.040 written about them Gasey Bundy, Dahmer, The Nightstalker VTK. Every 32 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:29.760 week another fascinating author talking about the most shocking and 33 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:34.400 infamous killers in true crime history. True Murder with your host, 34 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:46.640 journalist and author Dan Zupansky. 35 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:49.239 Good evening, This is your host Dan Zupanski for the 36 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:52.079 program True Murder, The most shocking Killers in true crime 37 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:55.920 History and the authors that have written about them. Denise 38 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:58.680 Amberlee was a twenty one year old, happily married mother 39 00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:01.519 of two little boys. She had her whole life ahead 40 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:04.799 of her until an intruder broke into her Florida home. 41 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:08.840 Within a few short hours, she was savagely terrorized and murdered. 42 00:02:09.479 --> 00:02:12.199 Michael King, a thirty eight year old out of work plumber, 43 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:16.159 was a ticking time bomb. Incredibly, Denise managed to call 44 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:20.319 nine one one twice during her abduction. Eyewitness and her 45 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:24.520 distraught husband also called, but a slow, inefficient system tragically 46 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:28.120 failed her. King was sentenced to death, but for Denise 47 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:31.599 and her loving family, it was too late. The book 48 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:34.599 that we're featuring this evening is a Killer's Touch with 49 00:02:34.680 --> 00:02:38.479 my special guest, journalist and author Michael Benson. Thank you 50 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:40.599 for agreeing to this program and welcome back to The 51 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:42.240 True Murder Michael Benson. 52 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:44.319 Hey, thanks for having me dance. 53 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:46.879 Thank you very much, Michael. Great book. By the way, 54 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:51.199 I'm sure the audience is looking forward to this interview. 55 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:56.240 It's a very different story. We'll get right into it 56 00:02:57.199 --> 00:03:01.800 right now for our audience. Let's do a little go 57 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:06.560 back to where this takes place in Northport. Describe the 58 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:11.120 area where this crime goes down, and then let's go 59 00:03:11.240 --> 00:03:16.639 backwards and also talk first about Denise Amberlee and then 60 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:18.080 we can talk about Michael King. 61 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:23.120 Sure, the story takes place in Northport, Florida. It's a 62 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:27.800 town outside of Sarasota. It originally been a small village 63 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:31.080 surrounded by farms, but it build up into a sprawling 64 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:35.360 suburb with lots of tract housing. Population grew not just 65 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:38.280 because people moved there permanently, but also because it was 66 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:41.960 a popular destination for snowbirds, folks who lived up north 67 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:44.439 in the summer and then lived in Florida during the winter. 68 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:51.840 Northport had grown so rapidly that it really real estate 69 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:59.719 people overestimated its popularity. When the real estate market dropped, 70 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:04.319 they continued to build houses. What happened was there were 71 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:07.159 more houses than there were people, and yet housing tracks 72 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:11.639 that were only partially occupied. And that was the neighborhood 73 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:16.079 where the Lees lived. So it was an area that 74 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:20.399 fifty years before had been virtually crime free, and now 75 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:25.240 it was an area plagued by burglaries. Now you know, 76 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:30.560 Denise name was Denise Amberley. She grew up as Denise Goth. 77 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:34.240 She was, as you said, twenty one year old, mother 78 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:37.759 of two little boys, lived on La Tour Avenue. The 79 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:41.680 housing tract was only partially occupied. She was a beautiful blonde. 80 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:44.399 She liked to walk around your house wearing a T 81 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:48.240 shirt and her husband's boxer shorts. And her husband had 82 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:51.240 asked her repeated to keep the blinds closed when you 83 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:54.800 dressed like that, and she always said, well, well, why, 84 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:57.560 you know, it's hot out and there's nobody on the 85 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:01.000 street anyway, nobody's going to look in. She'd done a 86 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:05.560 good student, smart girl, had attended some college. She met 87 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:08.399 and fell in love with her husband, Nate Lee, while 88 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:11.160 they were still in high school, and they started a 89 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:14.040 very adult life at a very young age two kids. 90 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:17.279 At the age of twenty one, Nate was working three 91 00:05:17.399 --> 00:05:23.040 jobs along with being a musician in the local Philharmonic Orchestra. Also, 92 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:25.639 Denise could stay home and take care of the babies, 93 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:27.680 which was quite a job in itself because they were 94 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:31.199 both in diapers and Nate was working as a meter 95 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:35.279 reader when this happened, and he knew something was wrong 96 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:38.639 well before he arrived home. He'd called eight Turns on 97 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:41.480 his cell phone while in his car and was deeply 98 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:44.360 distressed by the fact that Denise wasn't answering her phone. 99 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:49.800 Okay, let's go back to the actual That day that 100 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:52.959 we're talking about is January seventeenth, two thousand and eight. 101 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:56.079 But before we do that, let's get to the character 102 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:59.160 of Michael King. Very much unlike your book Woods, Let's 103 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:01.319 get the character of Michael King so that we know 104 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:05.759 because this person is late in Life Killer here, so 105 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:10.199 he's either thirty eight or thirty six I got inflicting him. 106 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:16.199 I'm not quite sure that I have thirty seven. 107 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:19.639 We'll go in between that. Okay, So tell us about 108 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:22.920 Michael King before we get to January seventeen, two thousand 109 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:23.319 and eight. 110 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:25.720 Well, I think Michael King would have been a notorious 111 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:28.319 killer if he hadn't been caught so quickly after his 112 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:32.480 crime was pretty started. And the reason he was caught 113 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:35.839 as quickly as he was was because he picked the 114 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:39.319 wrong victim. I mean, Denise Lee was a CoP's daughter, 115 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:42.959 and she was smart and he wasn't. He grew up 116 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:45.879 in Michigan. He's not terribly bright fellow, and for years 117 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:48.199 he'd made a living as a handyman and a plumber. 118 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:51.199 But for the last couple of years things had been 119 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:54.800 on the downturn for him. In two thousand and eight, 120 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:57.040 when this happened, his life was getting to be a 121 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:00.600 bit of a mess. He was divorced, custody of a 122 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:03.959 son he couldn't afford. He was dating a series of 123 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:06.560 small blonde women. He had a type all with. All 124 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:10.040 of his girlfriends looked alike. They're small blond women, and 125 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:13.720 some of them were also crippled by dysfunction. So it 126 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:15.879 was getting harder and harder for him to find work. 127 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:19.959 He was facing foreclosure on his north Port home, which 128 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:22.439 had already been emptied of furniture by one of the exes. 129 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:26.959 He was angry at the women he dated. He didn't 130 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:30.360 have a criminal history, but when the monster within him emerged, 131 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:33.000 it came out a big time. You know, his financial 132 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:37.480 worries and his girlfriend troubles combined into an intense anger 133 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:41.319 with a strong sexual component, and in frustration, he decided 134 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:43.319 he was going to steal a woman and take what 135 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:46.519 he wanted. As it turned out, boy did he ever 136 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:50.480 pick the wrong woman? Right? Let me tell you about. 137 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:53.959 Yeah, tell us about January seventeenth, two thousand and eight. 138 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:57.399 Just tell it was okay. 139 00:07:57.079 --> 00:08:00.240 Go ahead, this is home along with the caid. So 140 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:05.399 she's given one of her boys a haircut, dressed, you know, 141 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:10.160 didn't men underwear, which was her choice on hot days. 142 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:13.639 And it was dark and drizzly, kind of a gray day, 143 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:17.879 and Michael King was driving his green Camaro up and 144 00:08:17.920 --> 00:08:22.120 down the tour avenue looking for a victim. And next 145 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:24.240 door to the Lee's house there was a woman named 146 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:27.399 Jennifer Eckert who was also a tiny blonde woman, and 147 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:29.439 she was waiting for her boyfriend to pick her up. 148 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:32.360 She looked out the front window and you know, wondered 149 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:33.919 what this guy in the car was up to. Let's 150 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:36.200 go back and forth, back and forth, and at one 151 00:08:36.200 --> 00:08:38.679 point she even went outside, thinking the guy might be 152 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:41.639 lost in need of directions. But for some reason, the 153 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:44.039 man in the car did not watch Jennifer. He pulled 154 00:08:44.039 --> 00:08:50.679 into the next door neighbors park driveway instead, and so 155 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:52.840 maybe he saw her through the living room window, just 156 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:55.240 as Nate had warned her about. We don't know. We 157 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:58.000 don't know when it made him stop. But the car 158 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:01.159 crawled into the Lee driveway very slow, and Jennifer went 159 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:04.759 back to watching TV. The next thing she knows a 160 00:09:04.759 --> 00:09:07.559 few minutes later and the car is burning rubber down 161 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:10.000 the street. You know, the guy completely peeled out, like 162 00:09:10.039 --> 00:09:12.600 a bat out of hell. He rives going very slowly 163 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:15.960 and leaves going very fast. Jennifer turned out to be 164 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:18.559 a very important witness because as soon as police were 165 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:22.960 informed that there was a woman missing, Jennifer was able 166 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:25.440 to give them a description of the suspicious car and 167 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:28.519 its driver. And when Nate Lee came home and found 168 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:31.840 Denie gone, he didn't call nine one one. First, he 169 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:34.159 called his father in law, Rick, who was a police 170 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:37.840 sergeant in nearby Charlotte County. And if the victim had 171 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:39.840 been anyone else, there might have been a delay in 172 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:43.279 the search because police would have been questioning Nate. When 173 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:45.679 something bad happens to a married person, the spouse is 174 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:49.039 always the first suspect. And you know, in other cases, 175 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:51.240 police may assume that there had been in an argument, 176 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:53.440 the life simply ran off and by be back soon. 177 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:56.519 But in this case, because the victim's father was a cop, 178 00:09:56.960 --> 00:10:00.440 the search for her started right away, and within minutes 179 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:03.480 of the call, you know that Denise was missing. There 180 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:07.039 were k nineteens out in helicopters joining the search. 181 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:11.080 Now, can you tell us a little bit about what 182 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:13.759 I found interesting too? Is it's just a little bit 183 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:16.799 more of Nate finding what he did find. He talked 184 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:20.559 to his wife at eleven something in in the morning anyway, 185 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:23.159 and he came home at three point thirty. He told 186 00:10:23.159 --> 00:10:25.600 her open the windows, get some fresh air. He came home, 187 00:10:25.639 --> 00:10:28.000 the windows were all closed, and how did he What 188 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:29.440 did he find in the home? 189 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:32.039 That was well? He finds he finds both babies in 190 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:35.759 the same playpen, which is something that Denise would never 191 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:39.919 do because the older boy was a little bit rambunctious 192 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:41.919 and hadn't learned how to be gentle, and they tended 193 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:45.000 to not leave him alone. Ri could smack around his 194 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:47.559 little brother. So the fact they were both in the 195 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:50.240 same playpen was very odd and plus you know, her 196 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:54.919 purse was had been dumped out and with the contents 197 00:10:55.240 --> 00:10:58.320 kind of sloppily spilled out, so he knew something was 198 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:04.000 wrong right away, right you know. I. You know all 199 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:06.679 books that have their own personalities when you when you 200 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:10.519 research them, and in this one, I had a pretty 201 00:11:10.559 --> 00:11:12.960 good luck. Just about everybody I wanted to talk to 202 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:16.399 offered their part of the story, but it was it 203 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:17.919 turned out to be a person who didn't want to 204 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:21.080 be interviewed that it gave me preaps the most profound message. 205 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:25.519 There was one veteran police officer who turned me down, 206 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:28.159 not because he didn't want to be helpful, but because 207 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:32.120 of something that seemed to me resemble post traumatic stress. 208 00:11:32.519 --> 00:11:35.159 He said that during his time as a cop, only 209 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:39.120 two cases had gotten under his skin. The first unnatural 210 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:41.519 death he ever saw, which was a suicide by hanging 211 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:44.519 the investigator when he was a rookie. In this case, 212 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:47.320 he just didn't want to relive it again. He got nightmares, 213 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:50.080 his hands started shaking just thinking about it. And he 214 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:52.360 told me that for weeks, every time he closed his eyes, 215 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:55.759 he saw the room in Michael King's house, where Denise 216 00:11:55.840 --> 00:12:01.000 Lee was, you know, repeatedly attacked me. I'll describe that 217 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:03.879 more later. It wasn't the creepiness that got to him, 218 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:06.480 but it was the evil he felt in that room. 219 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:08.799 He didn't say so, but I think there was something 220 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:12.519 else as well. Not only was what happened to DENISLI 221 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:16.120 disgusting and tragic, and her murder or evil to the core, 222 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:19.840 but there was a sense of a wasted opportunity, that 223 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:25.720 this was a murder that could have then prevented. Absolutely, yeah, 224 00:12:25.799 --> 00:12:29.159 I mean the thing as it's unbelievable. I want to 225 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:31.759 make one quick correction of your introduction. The niece was 226 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:34.759 only only managed to call nine one once. That just 227 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:36.159 says it on the back of the book. But that's 228 00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:42.000 an error, right. There were five nine one one calls 229 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:44.840 made the law enforcement between the times Denise Li was 230 00:12:44.840 --> 00:12:48.240 abducted and when she was murdered. One call came from 231 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:51.240 her and another came from a witness who could report 232 00:12:51.279 --> 00:12:53.919 the location of the kidnappers power as it drove through 233 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:57.799 Northport in real time. The amount of info police had 234 00:12:57.919 --> 00:13:01.480 was incredible. Let me tell I'll run through the nine 235 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:04.399 one one calls for you. Absolutely, because yeah, I mean. 236 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:07.320 The first one is from Nate Lee, the husband, and 237 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:12.720 he reports that she's missing. And then but that's almost, 238 00:13:12.720 --> 00:13:14.720 you know, it's almost a mood point, because Rick Goff 239 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:19.320 has already called for the dogs and the helicopters. The 240 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:23.360 second call, second calls from Denise. She has managed to 241 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:28.600 a quarter after six in the evening. And I have 242 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:31.519 to admit that although I've read the transcript of this 243 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:34.799 call many times, I've only been able to actually listen 244 00:13:34.840 --> 00:13:38.879 to it once. It's the most horrifying thing I've ever heard. 245 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:43.080 Panicky screams and cries in a woman who's just been 246 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:45.720 repeatedly raped and sodomized, and who was now on her 247 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:48.480 way to a secluded spot where she was to be killed. 248 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:52.799 She just heard her abductor borrow a shovel from his cousin, 249 00:13:53.399 --> 00:13:55.559 and she knew what that shovel was for. He was 250 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:58.519 going a barrier, And while in the backseat of the 251 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:01.639 guy's come she managed to steal his cell phone and 252 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:04.080 call nine to one one. So she's in the back 253 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:08.240 seat and he's driving, and in the backseat with her 254 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:11.279 is the shovel and also the other things he had borrowed, 255 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:14.919 a can of gasoline, and a flashlight, so she's got 256 00:14:14.919 --> 00:14:18.080 a good idea what's in store for her now. The 257 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:20.799 nine one one system down there won no awards that day, 258 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:23.720 but in this case, the operator did a really good job. 259 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.720 The operator quickly figured out what the situation was. She 260 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:32.159 was reporting her own Denise was reporting her own abduction, 261 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:36.159 and her abductor was nearby and didn't know she could 262 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:39.039 hear the kidnappers. The operator could hear the kidnappers' voice 263 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:43.240 in the background, and the operator was careful informing her questions, 264 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:46.360 and Denise was brilliant in giving her answers so that 265 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:50.320 her abductor didn't realize she was having two conversations at once. 266 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:55.159 Maybe a couple examples, Denise said, my name is Denise, 267 00:14:55.159 --> 00:14:57.360 I'm married to a beautiful husband, and I just wanted 268 00:14:57.360 --> 00:14:59.519 to see my kids again. That was after the operator 269 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:01.919 asked her for he her name. When the operator asks 270 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:05.080 where she lives, Denise says, please take me back to 271 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:07.720 my house on Latour Avenue. It's the name of the street. 272 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:12.480 At one point, the kidnapperr asks her where his phone is, 273 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:16.320 while simultaneously the operator asks her if she knows this guy, 274 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:18.960 and she says, I don't I don't have it, so 275 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:22.360 she answered both questions. Then the operator could hear the 276 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:24.159 man's voice yell and anger at the woman as he 277 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.519 realized that she did have his cell phone, and the 278 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:30.320 call ends abruptly. You know, just that that's the most 279 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:32.679 terrifying part when the call ends, because you realize, you know, 280 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:36.000 that's it. 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See website for details. 302 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:47.000 She just got a call for her father, who reported 303 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:49.360 that their cousin, Michael King, had a girl tied up 304 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:53.080 in his car, and she said King had visited her 305 00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:55.440 father borowed a gas canis shovel in the third item 306 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:59.200 she didn't recall. Goperator asked for what her father's name was, 307 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:02.279 and she said her father didn't want to get involved 308 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:05.359 and wanted to remain anonymous. Well their apprecier his last 309 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:08.799 name was Mucklow. The operator asked how did she know 310 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:11.079 there was a woman in the car, and Sabrina said 311 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:13.839 the woman had tried to escape, but King had pushed 312 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:18.240 her back into the car. Now, the fourth call, the 313 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:21.359 fourth nine one one call, was the most important and 314 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:24.519 the one that was handled the worst. If he had 315 00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:29.279 to take a precise moment when law enforcement failed to 316 00:17:29.319 --> 00:17:32.160 save Benissa's life, it would be sometime during this ninety 317 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:36.119 one one call. It came only seven minutes after Sabrina 318 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:39.759 Muckslow's call, and it came from a woman named Jane Kowalski, 319 00:17:40.279 --> 00:17:43.680 who said that she was driving through Northport to dead 320 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:45.839 She was talking as she was driving. She's on her 321 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:47.880 way to visit her grandmother, and she was seeing and 322 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:50.799 hearing something that disturbed her. There was a man in 323 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:53.839 a dark Camaro driving behind her, and he had a 324 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:57.079 terrified child in his car. Jane had heard the child 325 00:17:57.200 --> 00:18:00.880 scream for help and saw a little hand on the window. 326 00:18:02.039 --> 00:18:04.039 Jane was able to tell the operator in real time 327 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:06.519 where the car was, and she continued to give the 328 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:10.519 operator a running account of the Camaro's location until the 329 00:18:10.559 --> 00:18:14.440 car made an unexpected left turn and Jane lost it. Now, 330 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:17.559 at that very moment that Michael King's driving his car, 331 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:23.119 She's driving right past the police car that was stopped 332 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:26.440 at the intersection. But because of mixed communications in the 333 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:28.599 nine to one one system and because there was a 334 00:18:28.720 --> 00:18:32.559 change of ships at that very moment, this incredibly urgent 335 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:34.480 message did not go out to police cars on the 336 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:38.039 road until many minutes later, and the opportunity was lost. 337 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:41.359 The operator stayed on the line with Jane Kwalsky and 338 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:43.720 made sure she was safe. Are your windows rolled up? 339 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:46.559 The operator asked. She told Jane to pull over and 340 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:48.839 wait for a police car to come and take her story. 341 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:51.799 While more time was lost as the operator tried to 342 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:54.839 nail down in which parking lot Jane had parked, and 343 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:57.839 the call ended. Jane waited and waited, but no cop 344 00:18:57.880 --> 00:19:00.359 car ever showed up. Jane called nine one one a 345 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:02.799 second time, but the shift had changed. The operator had 346 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:04.480 no idea who she was, and she had to start 347 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:07.680 all over. No pop power ever appeared in the parking 348 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:10.960 lot where she pulled over, so eventually, you know, hoping 349 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:12.759 that her eyes and her ears had been deceiving her, 350 00:19:13.039 --> 00:19:15.240 she continued on her way to Fort Myers to visit 351 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:18.480 her grandmother. Okay, here's one to put in your what 352 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:22.599 are the odds? Category? Jane Kowalski, the woman who called in, 353 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:25.720 was a computer expert and had worked on a computer 354 00:19:25.799 --> 00:19:29.400 aided dispatch system for nine one one calls, so she 355 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:33.000 knew exactly the information the operator needed and was giving 356 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:35.440 it to her in clear and concise manner. And she 357 00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:37.799 was giving the info in the correct order so they 358 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:41.720 could be most easily entered into the computer system. Still 359 00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:45.720 the operator got it wrong. Now, since then, Jane Kwalski 360 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:49.079 has given thousands of interviews and she always says the 361 00:19:49.119 --> 00:19:52.160 same thing. I was giving her exact locations. How could 362 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:55.240 they mess it up that they had? It took some doing, 363 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:57.400 but Kowalski did convince the police that she was an 364 00:19:57.400 --> 00:20:00.160 important witness, and she picked out King from a line 365 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:02.400 up at the police station, and months later was an 366 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:06.799 effective witness for the prosecution at King's murder trial. Which 367 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:10.960 brings us the night one call number four, about ten 368 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:16.519 minutes to seven in the evening. And this call did 369 00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:19.640 that come from somebody with Jane Kwalsky's communication skills. It 370 00:20:19.720 --> 00:20:22.759 came from Harold ms, the father of Sabrina, who had 371 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:25.599 called earlier, and he managed to spit out that although 372 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:28.480 he was not exactly sure of the nature of the emergency, 373 00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:30.759 he knew that there was somebody that don't want to 374 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:33.640 be where they need to be, and they were in 375 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:37.319 a green ninety five Camaro in Northport someplace. He said 376 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:39.440 he knew this because the man had stopped by his 377 00:20:39.519 --> 00:20:41.359 house with a girl in the car to borrow a 378 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:44.039 shovel a gass can in a flashlight. But so I 379 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:47.680 asked the man why he needed the items, and King 380 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:52.160 said his lawnmower had broken down. Now, while Mukshah was 381 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:54.920 giving the man the items, he saw he saw a 382 00:20:54.920 --> 00:20:56.960 girl get out of the car. She was tied up 383 00:20:56.960 --> 00:20:59.640 in some fashion and trying to escape, and the woman 384 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:04.720 said Muslow called the tops. So Muxwell asked the man, Hey, 385 00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:07.240 what's this all about, and the guy said, don't worry 386 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:10.559 about it. The operator asked for the man's identity and 387 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:14.559 Musloll said he didn't know the guy's name. Well, they 388 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:18.039 knew from the from the previous call that they were cousins. 389 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:21.240 Now Muxlow's attempted to keep himself in King Anonymous was 390 00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:24.480 in vain. Police listening to the tape of Denise's ninety 391 00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:26.319 one one call, heard the man in the background refer 392 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:28.880 to his cousin Harold. Turned out King only had one 393 00:21:28.920 --> 00:21:31.119 cousin named Harold, and that was Harold Muxlow, and he 394 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:34.640 lived in Northport, Bingo. And Muxwell made his call from 395 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:37.240 a pay phone so his idea would be protected. But 396 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:39.599 by the time he got home, police were there waiting 397 00:21:39.640 --> 00:21:42.960 for him. So an assist call was from a guy 398 00:21:43.039 --> 00:21:46.559 named Sean Johnson, and he, like Jane Kowalski, was in 399 00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:52.960 traffic while King was driving Denise Lee and she was 400 00:21:53.000 --> 00:21:56.759 making a fuss in the back seat. But unlike Jane, 401 00:21:57.079 --> 00:21:59.480