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<v Speaker 1>By Billy Cunningham, the great American. Of course, a few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago this thing came out of shall I say nowhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and the history of it is apparent to politics, not

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<v Speaker 1>apparent to coroners like doctor Somarco or doctor Russell Updegrove,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the elected corner of Warren County. But somebody

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<v Speaker 1>without any fingerprints on it put a couple of sentences

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<v Speaker 1>in a bill which is like five thousand pages long,

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that county recorders are not elected by

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<v Speaker 1>the people but rather appointed by county commissioners. And so

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<v Speaker 1>when doctor Samarco, the elected Hamley County corner, told me

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<v Speaker 1>about this, I said, I can't believe that Republicans would

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<v Speaker 1>take away the people's right to vote. So what I

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<v Speaker 1>did then was I had to contact to Governor Mike

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<v Speaker 1>DeWine put him on. Then I contacted the most powerful

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<v Speaker 1>man in Columbus, allegedly his Speaker of the House, Mount Huffman,

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<v Speaker 1>put him on about this issue, and they both said

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<v Speaker 1>they don't think that's going to fly. However, Matt Huffman,

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<v Speaker 1>the Speaker of the House, who last year was the

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<v Speaker 1>President of the Senate, a guy who knows where the

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<v Speaker 1>bodies are buried. Said, you know, it may make some

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<v Speaker 1>sense and some counties to not elect corners. And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about? And Huffman said, well, there

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<v Speaker 1>are some small counties in which you might elect an

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<v Speaker 1>optometrist or a might elect a veterinarian to be the

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<v Speaker 1>county corner. And so I want to put the questions

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<v Speaker 1>of these two elected corners. And first of all, doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Somarco and doctor Uppegrove, both of you welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham Show. And beginning with doctor Somarco, when this

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<v Speaker 1>tell the American people, Doc, how this came out of

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<v Speaker 1>the blue and why county corners like you and doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Updegrove should be elected.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having us on, Willie. As usual, you get

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<v Speaker 2>right to the point. So we found out about it

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<v Speaker 2>about five hours before the House voted on it. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I reached out to several of our state reps

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<v Speaker 2>for our area, they had no idea it was even

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<v Speaker 2>in there. So you know, I'm not sure how that gets. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I do know how that gets. I'm told

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<v Speaker 2>this is pretty common practice that when you want something passed,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, you added to some big bill and

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<v Speaker 2>it just sort of slips through. I'm not sure what

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<v Speaker 2>the purpose was. I don't even know if there were

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<v Speaker 2>any perceived problems because nobody, not one person reached out

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<v Speaker 2>to any of us to say, hey, we think this

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<v Speaker 2>might be a good idea, can we talk about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Not one.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what, as a voter, as an American citizen,

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<v Speaker 2>I resent anybody taking the power away from me to

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<v Speaker 2>elect my officials. And I mean across the board.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, yeah, it's doctor Russell ufter Grovel Warren County.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the elected corner there. Why are elected county corners

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<v Speaker 1>better than being appointed by the county commissioner in Warren County?

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<v Speaker 4>Why is it better?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think part of the problem is some of

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<v Speaker 3>the misinformation in what you just mentioned previously about worried

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<v Speaker 3>about the optometrists or dentist or things being appointed as corner.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the additional heaviats in the law that was

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<v Speaker 3>put in in the o RC as far as in

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<v Speaker 3>the Corner's Law in December, is that it is a

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<v Speaker 3>requirement to a corner be MD or a DO in

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<v Speaker 3>order to be able to elect a corner. So we're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to be electing non qualified people the situation.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as why with corners being elected, I think

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<v Speaker 3>number one, as you mentioned, I think the people have

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<v Speaker 3>the ability in their county to elect somebody based on

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<v Speaker 3>their track record, their performance, and their qualifications. If you

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<v Speaker 3>just remove the corners of elected officials, and then it's

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<v Speaker 3>left in the hands of these county commissioners to appoint

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<v Speaker 3>somebody who could be significantly less experienced or less qualified

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<v Speaker 3>than the status quo that is president in that county

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<v Speaker 3>at that particular time.

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<v Speaker 1>And doctor Samarco I was told that there's a movement

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<v Speaker 1>of foot over the next five to ten years to

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<v Speaker 1>take away the right of people to vote for like sheriff, auditor, recorder,

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<v Speaker 1>clerk of courts.

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<v Speaker 4>Who do administrative functions.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you respond to the argument that this is

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<v Speaker 1>saving money, it's a better approach to have a qualified

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<v Speaker 1>person selected by politicians instead of selected by the people.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see this as the first of many fights

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<v Speaker 1>in the years ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I would hope that the voters will defend democracy

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<v Speaker 2>and the right that they have to elect the officials

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<v Speaker 2>they have now. I mean, we have been doing this

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<v Speaker 2>in Ohio for two hundred years, and you know nobody

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<v Speaker 2>has yet to show me how it's broken. So, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said the other day at the press conference, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a solution looking for our problems. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there are smaller counties where they had nobody that stood

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<v Speaker 2>for election as corner. But already in the Ohio Revised

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<v Speaker 2>Code is a provision that allows county leaders to appoint

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<v Speaker 2>somebody to that position, and they have. And in the

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<v Speaker 2>ten counties where they didn't have anybody standing for corner,

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<v Speaker 2>there were five that were appointed, and then five counties

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<v Speaker 2>where they contracted with adjacent county corners to take over

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<v Speaker 2>the responsibilities. So if you're talking about expense, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it always boils down to money, doesn't it, Willie.

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<v Speaker 4>It's about it's always.

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<v Speaker 2>Money, right, if you're talking about expense. Our salaries are legislated, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they are determined by a high legislation and they're put

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<v Speaker 2>into place if you're going to appoint somebody. And there

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<v Speaker 2>are two counties in Ohio that actually do appoint. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a slightly different government system, right, and they have a

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<v Speaker 2>charter government and they appoint their county corner and the

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<v Speaker 2>county sheriff, by the way, but both of those counties

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<v Speaker 2>pay their corners significantly more than we get paid because

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<v Speaker 2>they appoint somebody and they basically have to pay the

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<v Speaker 2>going rate, right for a physician who's going to take

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<v Speaker 2>over as a full time position for those for those counties.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know the appointed sheriff in Cayhoe County, well, gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>they've had a hard time keeping the sheriff. They've had

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<v Speaker 2>nine sheriffs in like the last twelve years. Because now

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<v Speaker 2>they're considering going back to an elected juriff position because

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<v Speaker 2>they're having a thirty hard time keeping sheriffs. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>important for county corners to be elected because we are

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<v Speaker 2>answerable to the people of the county. I basically have

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<v Speaker 2>nine hundred thousand bosses, right, I mean the nine hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand voters in the county, not three people, not a board,

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<v Speaker 2>not a group of or a small group of people

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<v Speaker 2>that appoint me. And so I have the independence. I

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<v Speaker 2>have the ability to be objective. I have the ability

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<v Speaker 2>to look at the evidence, to look at the scene,

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<v Speaker 2>to look at the medical records, to look at what

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<v Speaker 2>is being presented to me and make an objective independent

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<v Speaker 2>you know, medical decision, investigative decision based on the evidence

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<v Speaker 2>at hand and not be influenced by a certain group

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<v Speaker 2>of people or you know, their friends or their colleagues

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<v Speaker 2>or fellow politicians. And we have the ability to do

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<v Speaker 2>that because we are independently elected and we want.

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<v Speaker 3>To keep it that one.

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<v Speaker 1>So on that point, doctor Samarco, if you're appointed by

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<v Speaker 1>county commissioners in this it might be two out of

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<v Speaker 1>the three, or would appoint someone they could put the scale.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it's happened, but they could put their

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<v Speaker 1>thumb on the scales and say, we appoint you. You

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<v Speaker 1>kind of work for us. We don't think this is

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<v Speaker 1>a suicide. This might be a homicide. What do you think, doc?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you worried about political wins blowing into the corner's

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<v Speaker 1>office in Amlin the county that's not there.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, we're all human, and you know there are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be county corners that are going to feel that

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<v Speaker 2>pressure to and you know sort of the influence and

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<v Speaker 2>the pressure to rule a certain way when you're being

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<v Speaker 2>asked by your bosses, and I think you know, to

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<v Speaker 2>stay in a position or to stay in that job.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that keeping it objective and keeping it independent

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<v Speaker 2>will result in justice for the victim and the families

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, as well as the suspect. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's important for us to maintain.

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<v Speaker 1>That right, Doctor Russell upter Grove. Warren County is a

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<v Speaker 1>great county. It's a smaller county compared to Hamilton County. However,

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<v Speaker 1>there's counties in Ohio that has ten to twelve thousand

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<v Speaker 1>total residents in a completely different situation. So when Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Huffman talked about maybe a veterinarian or an optometrist becoming

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<v Speaker 1>county corner, who would want to do that for the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of money paid in a small county? But do

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<v Speaker 1>you living in Warren County, if you have a situation

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<v Speaker 1>where you would like to, as an elected corner bring

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<v Speaker 1>in another corner from another county, from Hamilton County or

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<v Speaker 1>Montgomery County, you currently have the ability to do that

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<v Speaker 1>without the law telling you you have to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You have the option to do what they want to

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<v Speaker 1>do anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean in Warren County, we don't perform autopsies there,

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<v Speaker 3>so the bodies that will require an autopsy are sent

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<v Speaker 3>to either Montgomery County or Hamilton County based upon on

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<v Speaker 3>the geography of the circumstances. What I think a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people don't understand is there's a lot more to

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<v Speaker 3>the corner job than just looking at people who are

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<v Speaker 3>being autopsied. We're responsible for dealing with death certificates on

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<v Speaker 3>individuals who die of oftentimes natural causes, who either have

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<v Speaker 3>not seen a doctor in a long time, where their

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<v Speaker 3>doctor refuses to sign the death certificate for various reasons,

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<v Speaker 3>and all of those deaths fall in the lap of

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<v Speaker 3>the corner to deal with. So there's a lot more

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<v Speaker 3>to the job than just sending a body off to

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<v Speaker 3>some other place for an autopsy. And that's the end

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<v Speaker 3>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when this came out about a week or

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<v Speaker 1>two ago, that your job's probably important to you, but

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<v Speaker 1>more importantly, the issue is more important. I'm sure both

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<v Speaker 1>of you could go into the private sector and make

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more money than you make as a corner Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when this thing eroved, doctor Upgrove, when this came out

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks ago, politically, what do you do of anything

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<v Speaker 1>to try to stop it? Because you have some powerful

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<v Speaker 1>people in Warren County. Is this a political matter? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that needs to be addressed or is it

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<v Speaker 1>a medical matter? Which one is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it came out of the blue, really and without

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<v Speaker 3>really having much warning that this was going on. So

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<v Speaker 3>the original question is you know, well, who's behind this

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<v Speaker 3>and what is the reason that this driving this? And

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's personally. I think it has something to

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<v Speaker 3>do more with just making a corner an appointed position

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<v Speaker 3>and removing it as an elected official. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>would open the door to the possibility down the road

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<v Speaker 3>for this using the term regionalization, where it would make

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<v Speaker 3>it easier for some of these counties that were maybe

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<v Speaker 3>smaller counties to do away with having a single corner

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<v Speaker 3>for a single county and try to lump two three

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<v Speaker 3>counties together and under one corner. Now, the problem would

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<v Speaker 3>be who would want to take on all that extra

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<v Speaker 3>work and responsibility. If this is supposedly about a cost

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<v Speaker 3>saving measure. If it's hard enough to get people to

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<v Speaker 3>run for foreigner, now, what would be the motivation to

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<v Speaker 3>do it? To do more work for the same amount of.

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<v Speaker 1>Money, And doctor Somarco, you could make two, three, four

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<v Speaker 1>times what you're making. If money is the motivation, you're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sacrificing to be the corner. And what they

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<v Speaker 1>want to do now is after your term is up.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess in January of twenty nine is to have

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<v Speaker 1>you go away, which might, in a sense financially benefit

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<v Speaker 1>you because you'll make more money. However, you're not motivated

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<v Speaker 1>by money and doing this in the first place, correct, Willie?

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<v Speaker 2>What I get paid right now? I made more my

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<v Speaker 2>first year in practice, my first year out of training

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety five, I made more that's three years ago

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<v Speaker 2>in my first year in practice that I make now

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<v Speaker 2>as a corner. So it's not about the money, that's

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. But you know, it is about public service.

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<v Speaker 2>It is about trying to do something in my neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 2>in my neck of the woods, in serving the public

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<v Speaker 2>and assuring justice and giving some answers to the families

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<v Speaker 2>and giving them some peace of mind, and answering some

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<v Speaker 2>really important questions like, hey, we had a sudden death

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<v Speaker 2>of an athlete. Could this be genetic? Is there anybody

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<v Speaker 2>else in the family that's at risk? You know, let's

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<v Speaker 2>do this investigation and see if we can get some

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<v Speaker 2>answers for the family. There are so many public health

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<v Speaker 2>implications here. You know, when COVID hit, everybody wanted to know,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, you know how many people are dying?

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<v Speaker 2>Of COVID and is this something we need to worry about,

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<v Speaker 2>and how contagious is it? And what do you do

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<v Speaker 2>precautions do you take. I think the corner in most

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<v Speaker 2>counties in Ohio pay a pivotal play, a pivotal role

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<v Speaker 2>in working with public health as well as law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's both. It's both medicals and is both law

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you both you, I tell you what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be done by June thirtieth. Likely it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be done around Memorial Day. There's going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>House passed the bill which includes getting rid of corners.

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<v Speaker 1>The Senate says they're not going to put that in there.

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<v Speaker 1>So if they don't put it in there, that means

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<v Speaker 1>there will be a reconciliation process in which the governor

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<v Speaker 1>gets involved, and then they go to the Governor's office

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<v Speaker 1>and the two of the bills are worked together. What's in,

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<v Speaker 1>what's out? What do we give the Browns, what do

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<v Speaker 1>we give the Bengals? Do they get nothing? To get everything?

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<v Speaker 1>And likely the corner issue is so small and so

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<v Speaker 1>down the list of worries of the state that I

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<v Speaker 1>have a concern that it's going to stay in there

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<v Speaker 1>without any of the parties really discussing it or knowing

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<v Speaker 1>about it, because they care about the big issues, and

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<v Speaker 1>to me, this is a big issue. And so what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do is just one person is every

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks, I'll talk to the Wine and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Matt Huffman, and I'll talk to Bill Blessing

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<v Speaker 1>and keep telling them that when the powwow takes place

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<v Speaker 1>around Memorial Day and here's the House bill, and here's

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate bill, which is different, and the governor's recommendation

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<v Speaker 1>are different, that when everyone's sitting around everyone agrees to

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<v Speaker 1>take out the provision about county commissioners appointing corners and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that's not in there. I have a concern

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to slip through under the door and at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, and so I'll do my part,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know you too will do your part. You're

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<v Speaker 1>a Republican and doctor Somarco is a Democrat. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not political and it's not not r D. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>competency and about the power of voters to select those

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<v Speaker 1>who govern aspect of their lives. I want to keep

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<v Speaker 1>the ballot box open so if corner gets out of hand,

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<v Speaker 1>we can get them out of office because they are

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<v Speaker 1>answerable to me as a voter and not the county commissioners.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, both of you, I got to go. I'll be

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<v Speaker 4>in touch off the air.

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<v Speaker 1>But doctor Somarco and doctor Uptegrove, once again, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and both of you.

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<v Speaker 1>The fight continues past this afternoon, but both of you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless you. Let's continue with more. Their fight today

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<v Speaker 1>will be you'll fight tomorrow. And I think the ballot

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<v Speaker 1>box out of remain open in case we have a

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<v Speaker 1>bad corner, we can get rid of that person instead

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<v Speaker 1>of having county commissioners of appointing.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to elect those who govern

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<v Speaker 1>my affairs. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred WLDW