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Contact Then today it is time for a little keeping

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up with Cougar's going to welcome to a former BYU

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Great and discuss this Holy War week BYU versus Utah

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obviously has gone back and forth over the last fifty years.

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Lavell era dominant the Bronco Menden Hall Kyle Whittingham Urban era.

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It was kind of fifty to fifty over the Independent era.

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Nine straight wins for the University of Utah but BYU's

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on a winning streak right now and they want to

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send Kyle Whittingham into retirement with his third straight loss,

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and they may be able to do it at Lavelle

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Let's get out to the hotline to discuss a specialist

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in this holy war, in this rivalry game, we've got

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the best BYU receiver in BYU football history. Austin Colly

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on the line, Ac, How you living, man? How's a

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Rivalry Week treating you thus far?

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Speaker 4: I'm loving it? Been looking forward to it, man, I'm excited.

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Speaker 5: Brother, Yeah, Like, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, how look, work, life, family, you know all of that.

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You have to allocate bandwidth to it in Rivalry Week?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 2: How often are you getting texted, emailed?

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Speaker 5: Called? You know?

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Speaker 3: In your general conversations about this game.

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Speaker 4: Uh, well, you know, I'd say most of uh, most

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of my uh both my partners and most of the

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associates and and and my employees here at the at

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the office are all Utah fans. So uh you know

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I'm getting I'm getting, uh, I'm getting my fair fair

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share of trash talk, and uh you know I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting, right Like it's a it's.

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Speaker 3: A volatile, vitriolic robbery for the fans and and sometimes

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for the players. How do you view this game as

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a former player you've played in this, it seems like

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you you embraced the vitriol, the trash talk, all of that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I it's what makes college football college football. Man, Like,

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this is what this is what it's all about, right

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like the history between the two teams, the hatred, the animosity,

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the you know, the back and forth. Like I this

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is what this is what college football is made of,

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right here, right Like if you could, if you could

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take somebody who doesn't know what college football is all about,

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right like, this would be the week to kind of

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show them.

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Speaker 3: There's been iconic quotes over the years from players both

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on Utah's and BYU side, the magic happens still pierces

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the hearts and minds of Utah fans everywhere, and obviously

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BYU fans they utter those same words magic happens after

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big wins. Take us back to that interview after that

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big time win. I know you've been asked this question

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many times two thousand and seven, fourth and eighteen, you

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guys convert obviously BYU ends up winning that game. What

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was going through your mind when you were getting interviewed

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in that moment? And why did you utter the magic happens?

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Speaker 2: Uh refrain, Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I I uh, you know, at that point in time,

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I believed in preparation, right, Like that was such a

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big part of my game is preparing. You know. I

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kind of had a mantra that I that I had

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developed on my church mission that you know, that had

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no regrets and and uh, you know, I kind of

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took that same mantra and added to my two uh

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you know, to to my life on the field. And

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you know, the the idea was that you know, if

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if you prepare, you make sure you're prepared, opportunities going

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to come. And when that opportunities comes if you if

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you put in the preparation and you've been doing what

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you know, what what is asked of you by by

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the man above, right, Like that combination is gonna is

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going to produce some fruit, right kind of going to

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produce some success. So uh uh you know, I've been

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a constant believer in that that everything works out the

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way that it should as long as you're doing what

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you're supposed to be doing.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, Uh, I think what was your record all time

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versus Utah in the rivalry game?

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Speaker 2: Do you just get that one win in two thousand

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and seven?

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Speaker 4: Note grade one, one and two one and two?

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Speaker 5: Ben?

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Speaker 2: What happened in the last right?

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Speaker 3: Like you know when b YU loses these games, typically

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they're pretty competitive, right, they go back and forth. You know,

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there's uh there's typically controversy that that swells around these games.

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Speaker 2: And you know prior and in postgame and during the game.

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Speaker 3: So what happened in the games in which you you

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guys just fell short, Well, it.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't help you play the two best Utah teams in history,

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in the history of the school.

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Speaker 2: Right, Oh wait right?

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Speaker 4: Perfect? Oh wait yeah, yeah, the the the two best

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teams in uh yeah, in Utah, his stree. You know,

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we were we were pretty good four you know, uh,

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probably the best five and six team in the country.

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Eric Weddle and and uh Paris Warren and all those guys.

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and then yeah, then then played the eight or sorry seventeen.

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I went on to play Alabama the Sugar Bowl and

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beat them. Had you know, four number one or first

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round draft picks on that team at the time. So

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you know, it's kind of lucky. The draw, just bad luck.

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That's what happened.

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Speaker 3: Then awesome calling here on ESPN the fan. But you

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did get that win obviously in O seven, and you

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were you were coming off the mish, and you probably

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weren't running on all cylinders coming off the mish, you know,

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struggling through you know, the the post mission legs, et cetera.

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about iconic wins, oh seven, uh in you know Max Hall,

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you know going off in eight, that was a big one.

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and so these are these are memories that fans that

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created a generation of fans, right, And in your upbringing

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in in the Collie home, obviously you guys were were

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BYU fans, and so these moments, I believe they create

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generational fans, these wins, these games create generational fans for

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either side of of the robbery. So like, growing up,

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what do you remember about this rivaly game? And obviously

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you had a four you have a dad that that

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played in this game, but what do you recall about it?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 4: To be honest, Ben, I don't remember anything about this game.

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I was a I was a Pac ten only. It

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was a Pac ten only household. Right. Growing up in

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grown up in California, we didn't watch too many BYU

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football games, and so I was unaware of even what

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the what the rivalry was all about until my freshman

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year right made it made a couple of comments after

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playing New Mexico and found out quickly what what this

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rivalry meant. After my comments, we're we're you know, uh

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hit the airwaves uh and had some unhappy, disgrontal youth

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fans coming after me. So UH got got a real

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quick lesson, uh of what the rivalry means to a

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lot of people in this state. And amongst the entire

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fan base for both fan bases. But you know, I've

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fallen in love with it. I I now know my

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kids now know what that rivalry means. Right, Like they

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were getting harassed at at uh at at elementary school,

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right crying coming home saying, Johnny just told me that

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you're a loser. Uh uh, you know because you played

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for BYU and you lost the Utah, et cetera. So

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you know, they now have a realistic understanding of what

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the rivalry means. And yeah, we look forward to it

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every year.

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Speaker 3: When you evaluate the rivalry, right nineteen seventy two and

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Lavelle took over, like it was dominant all the way

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through the early nineties. BYU I think won pretty much

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every single one of those games minus two from nineteen

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seventy two to nineteen ninety two. All of a sudden

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nineteen ninety three that the it just turned right. It

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became more of like a fifty to fifty game. From

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nineteen ninety three through two thousand and nine, I think

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it was like split down the middle. Utah one half

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of them, BYU won half of them. And then you

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go to twenty ten and Kywittingham and the Utes rattle

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off nine straight by us on a two game winning streak.

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Speaker 2: Now, when you look at those numbers, like what.

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Speaker 3: Stands out to you about whether or not BYU's winning

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these games or losing these games over maybe that history.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know what. I can't talk to what's

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happened before you know, I got there. But you know,

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I think the biggest gap that's happened since two thousand

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and nine up until a couple of years ago. I

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think that could be directly correlated to the fact that

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around that time is when Utah made the jump to

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go to the Tack twelve, right, and we at Duyu

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stayed as an independent school.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: I think that has a lot to do with it, right,

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I mean, you look at BYU and the trajectory that

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we're on now, don't I don't think it's I don't

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think it's crazy to think that. Hey, you know, joining

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a Power five conference or a powerful conference like Big

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twelve helps helps the recruiting, helps the funding, it helps

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in marketing, help, it helps in everything, right, and those

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types of things bring a certain energy to the program.

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I mean, Kilani has done a phenomenal job of creating

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that energy, but it went to a different level once

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we decided that we were going to be in the

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Big twelve, right, So I think that played a huge

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part in just the discrepancy of funding, the discrepancy of

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recruiting from Utah. They went and they went to the

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PAC twelve and we remained or went to independent.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: But now I think there's there's gonna be a lot

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of parody, right given the fact that especially we're the

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same conference, pulling from the same recruiting pole.

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Speaker 3: So do you feel, like you mentioned parody, will there

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be kind of an equivalency, kind of a back and

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forth once again? Do you think do you think by

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you now, as they were operating for a long time

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without as many resources, they kept it competitive obviously in

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these games during independence, but.

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Speaker 2: Weren't able to come out with victories.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like they're on a better trajectory than

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Utah now that they're in the same conference with maybe

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an increase in nil funds, you know, finally getting kind

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of the weight room, nutrition, medical staff, et cetera. Are

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they are they on even footing or do you think

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maybe got a leg up on Utah in the near future.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 4: I think it's definitely going to be a back and forth, right,

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for the years that I played. Okay, Uh, they're they're

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they're always going to be close games.

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Speaker 2: Because that's it just got out of hand in the fourth.

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Speaker 4: I don't know sure. I mean, what was the final

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score there? Lost by twenty So yeah, I think I

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think it's it is going to be like I said,

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the the the meaning of this rivalry. You're going to

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get the best out of both teams. This is why

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this is why you know, this week scares all the fans, right,

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because you could go either way, and I think we've

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seen some crazy things happen, and that's just because of

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what the rivalry means. I think the fact that we're

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mean you take a look at you know too, or

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at least one of our our star defensive linemen was

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playing in Utah last year, right, I mean the fact

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that we're so close, uh geographically, and you know, with

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with the transfer portal being the way that it is,

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with plumbing being the way that it is with it

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with the conferences that we're both in, Like, I do

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think that there's going to be far more parody across

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the two teams, and then it's always going to be

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a close game, like unless unless one team has just

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a quarterback that is far better than the other. Right, Like,

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rests on how great that that kid is under center. Right,

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And if one of the years, you know, one of

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our schools happens to nab a uh you know, a

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single caller, you know, first round draft pick type, you know,

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franchise type quarterback, then the knack could sway things a

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little bit. But I think for the most part, man,

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it's going to be a back and forth NonStop, and

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of of you know, personnel as well. Give him the

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transfer portal because a lot of these kids want to

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stay home, close to home in the area. Okay, where's it,

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where's the next best spot? All right, what's up north

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or it's down south?

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Speaker 3: Right, It's funny you bring up Canton town of Asa.

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Speaker 4: To b Yu.

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Speaker 3: He actually served his mission in Provo and uh Canton

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Town of USA taught Kalani's son, who I think was

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like nine at the time and had not been baptized

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or something like that, as we ended up baptizing Sun.

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So there's there's a lot of cross pollination.

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Speaker 2: A god.

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Speaker 3: John Henry Daily, then nephew of David Nixon, was playing

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at b YU, transfers to Utah. Now he's their best

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defensive lineman. So there's there's a lot there's a lot

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of cross pollination there.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, and I think that's going to continue to happen.

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Like especially a lot of these kids that are that

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are home growing here in the state, right, they don't

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want to go out of state. I want to stay

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in state. Uh and uh. And they're either going to

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go to Utah, They're going to go to b a U. Right,

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they're unhappy at BYU, they're going to go up to

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Utah and vice versa.

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Speaker 3: So let's discuss this Bay football team. I imagine you've

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been watching this team. You're you've trained some of these

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wide receivers over the years. What do you like about

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how the team is playing right now? Who stands out

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to you from a personnel standpoint that you can highlight

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for us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think, you know, I I've I've

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always been optimistic about about Parker Kingston's ceiling and what

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he's been able to deliver. I think now that he's

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uh you know, uh uh uh an upperclassman who's had

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a couple of years under his belt, I think his

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confidence is really high. And I think I think Air

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Roderick and FESSI have done a great job of working

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him into the system right, making sure he's getting his touches,

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because I do think he's a very dynamic player. And

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then you know, Chase obviously continues to prove he's mister consistent,

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mister reliability. And you know, I think LJ is running

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a lot better. I'd still like to see him be

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a little bit more aggressive, and I honestly, I think

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I think the addition that Carson Ryan too is huge, right, Like, Yeah,

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I know he doesn't get a ton of touches, but

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he's he's good enough for defenses to have that, you know,

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account for him right in their scheme, right and at

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any point he could go off if needed. So I

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do like our offensive weapons. I think Bear has done

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an absolutely fantastic job thus far of taking care of

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the football, taking care of the football and not trying

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to play to outside of him himself, not trying to

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do too much. Been super impressed with just his maturity,

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his poise, his confidence. It just just the way he's

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been able to man as a football game. To be

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quite honest, I mean, like to be able to do

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as a true freshman is pretty remarkable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you played, You played with what a sophomore John Beck,

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you know, young quarterback that had seen playing time as

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a as a freshman coming off a mission, and you know,

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John went through a refining fire. I don't know if

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he's supporting Cash collectively defensively, offensive line. There's a lot

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of youth, a lot of talent there, but you know,

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it's it's pretty remarkable what Bear has accomplished thus far.

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Pretty stoic in nature. And I think his ability to

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run the ball. I know that's not the words maybe

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a wide receiver once here is that your quarterback is

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gonna run the ball twenty two times. But his ability

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to run the ball has definitely opened up some things.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, absolutely, When you get a guy like

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that that's a threat on the ground, man, that's that's

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definitely going to open up a lot to the offense.

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And frankly, something that that be, Yeah, that b what

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he hasn't had in a couple of years, and I

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think I think as kind of relies on that. Right.

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Being able to have an athlete back there like a

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Jared Hall or like a Taste or whoever, right is

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going to add another dynamic. And and you know, the

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chuck plays that a Rod does have up this sleever

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are are going to be far more successful just because

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of the threat that he poses under center and being

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able to create with his feet.

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Speaker 3: If you had the you know, the opportunity to speak

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to this team prior to the Holy War, even like

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leading up to this game like this week, what what

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message would you give to this team as they prep

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for this, uh this Riler game? Some of them played

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in it, some of them haven't played in it. Obviously

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Bear hasn't played in this game yet. What's the words

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of advice from the wise and judicious BELLI.

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Speaker 4: If you lose, you're all done to me? Uh No,

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I I to be honest with you, I I would

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just say just keep playing. You're you know the same,

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the same football man like the great thing about this

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team just they know their identity, they know who they are.

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You know, everyone, just keep playing the way that you've

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been playing. Don't don't try and do anything different, you know,

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as fans. As fans, we you know, I'd love to

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see you get hyped. I love just treated differently. But

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you know, as a coach, you don't want your players

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thinking too much about what the game means and what

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the game means to the fans and feeling any type

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of way or any type of pressure. Right. You just

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want them going in and treating them like any other game.

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So yeah, to me, I just say, just just keep

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keep plugging away and uh, you know, don't treat this

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anything like any different the other games that you've been

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playing in, Right. I think when you tried to try

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to do too much, that's when proms start to happen.

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Speaker 3: Last thing for you, ac before we let you go.

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Actually a couple last things here. I think the statute

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of limitations is up. I get you know, as I

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debate with fans and conversion fans, they bring up rivalry games,

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they'll talk about specific so you know BA fans they are,

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they are very much They get into the the you know,

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granular minutia of what happening games and what happened in

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robberie games in two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 2: What they bring up to me is like.

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Speaker 3: Robert and I went away from the run game and

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was throwing the.

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Speaker 2: Ball too much. Is that true? Is that false?

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Speaker 3: Give me your perspective on this, because I have to

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field these questions all the time about the two thousand

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and eight game. They say, Hey, Robert and I, it's

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on his shoulders. We started throwing the ball. We were

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getting eight yards of pop with Harvey Unga. We went

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away from the run and that's why we lost. Give

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me your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: You can never fill about too much. We probably didn't

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throw enough, Ben, That's what I would say as a receiver.

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Did we throw Did we throw every play? No? Okay,

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we didn't throw enough.

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Speaker 2: You're a pretty good running the ball, though.

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Speaker 3: You could have taken somebody in this a run off

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and you could take some jets, some reverses.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we underutilize your idea.

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Speaker 4: That No, that that game, that that game I did.

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I had a couple of fly sweeps, dude, I had

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a little uh, a little uh wildcat pulling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. We did it with you.

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Speaker 4: Huh yeah, all right, a few of those, so we

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ran the ball plenty there.

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Speaker 3: It is a C has has spoken. I don't need

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to I'm just gonna pull your quotes from now on.

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AC said, we actually didn't throw the ball enough in

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that game.

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Speaker 2: Love it. Uh, I always appreciate what's that I said?

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Speaker 4: We didn't we didn't throw the ball?

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Speaker 2: Hey, give us an update real quick.

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The I think I told you we had our fifth

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about eight months ago. He's getting big. He's probably by

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far our biggest child. And then the all kids do

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just active, active in sports. And uh, you know, we're

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tying up the football season right now, got maybe one

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game left each for for my older boys, and then

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we're off the basketball and golf.

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Speaker 3: Love it, man, Wide receivers, quarterbacks, running backs, defensive backs.

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Speaker 2: What position are your boys playing?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Right, my my son is a freshman's a wide out

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and a corner, and my other son is a He

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actually just took up quarterback. His yeah, his is the

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starting quarterback for the team. Said he didn't want to

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play quarterback anymore.

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Speaker 7: So my son kind of stepped in and and uh

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got got his bell run about a week and a

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half ago. So he's still trying to get right from

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that and get back on the field. But yeah, man,

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he's he's got he's got the bones BTV. So we're

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gonna be heading down to the miss for the Beck

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Academy pre DQB For a couple of times this offseason.

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Speaker 3: I wondered, Man, I wonder I knew there was going

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to be a quarterback because you know too much about

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football not to have and and the two you know families,

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the Pendleton and Calley family combining, there had to be

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a quarterback in your midst.

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Speaker 2: Man, I knew it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but he's only been playing about five

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six weeks too, But he does things that I mean

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that I'm like, but who you know, where'd you get

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that from?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 4: Like, he's got the bones, man, So I'm excited. It'll

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be fun. My two best my two best athletes are

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my girls by far. They're in the middle of soccer

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and oh yeah they're they're they're they're freaks. Love that, dudes.

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at the college foot Paul World also discussing the Holy Warp.

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Speaker 2: Just how good?

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Speaker 3: Where does this rivalry game rank out amongst the best

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rivalry games in college football? I love the fact that

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Big Newton kickoff is coming to Provo, so then they

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get to know this rivalry game a little bit better,

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and I think it'll be an educational experience for the

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nation as they get to know this game.

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sixty seven. Let's discuss it. Let's discuss some of these

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topics with Jared Bledsoe right now on the line.

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Speaker 2: Jared, how are you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm doing great, man, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Always a pleasure man. Former BYU Wide Receiver. What do

535
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you remember about the rivalry game?

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Speaker 2: What made it so special? Growing up and then playing

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in this game?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it goes way back for me.

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Speaker 6: I have memories of the BYU Utah rival re since

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time I was a kid. I in fact, nineteen eighty five,

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it was a year, it was a snowy day. We

542
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got a call from a neighbor of ours that had

543
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I think they had eight tickets. So I called all

544
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my little sixth grade buddies and had our parents drop

545
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us off at the stadium.

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Speaker 5: We ended up sneaking down.

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Speaker 6: We were on the front row as lacke Hane Louly

548
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ran a maybe like a sixty yard touchdown and we

549
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ended up all on the.

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Speaker 5: Camera standing up in the crowd. So great memory as

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a kid.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think every time I played a game

553
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it was BYU versus Utah and everything.

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Speaker 5: And so fast forward from there to being at BYU

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in ninety eight.

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Speaker 6: And you know that Lavelle Edwards at that time was

557
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a roll around of the golf cart coach. You know,

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he had his coordinators that that did everything for him,

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and so he'd make his appearances in practice and roll

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around will come to the game of the Utah game

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that week, he had us all huddle up around him.

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We had a big red tackling Demi and and this

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is the year before he retired. He threw that thing

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on the ground and started kicking it to get us

565
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all hyped up.

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Speaker 5: It was. It was probably one of the greatest things

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they ever seeing coach Edwards do.

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Speaker 6: And and then that year we went on on to

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we played it at in Salt Lake City at Rice

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Cycles and we ended up. Let's see, they had the

571
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best kicker in the nation, one of the top kickers

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in the nation, and we brought him down to the

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very end of the game where he had a chance

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for I think it was like a thirty eight yard

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field goal, just a gimme field goal, and he hit

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the goalpost and.

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Speaker 5: Everyone stormed around the field.

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Speaker 6: And then as much as you know Derek, Derek Stevens

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in our middle linebacker, his dad was in the in

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the stands on the fo row and a Utah fan

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was getting in a fight with him, and Derek jumped

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into the stands to join the fight as Derek's dad

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laid out the the Utah fan and gave up bloody knows.

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And yes, great memories. It's such a great rivalry. And

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I feel like I'm really excited that we're going to

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have the big the group out there on Saturday morning

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to to really really highlight what this rivalry is.

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Speaker 2: Great stories.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, everybody I think has a story or

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two about this rivalry game as a fan, as a

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as a media member, as a football player, and so

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because of all those anecdotes, because of all those unique experiences,

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you know, we we love this rivalry game. And and

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what's crazy is how competitive it has been over the years, right,

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It really has been extremely competitive. It's a little bit

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lopsided in the modern I think Kyle Whitning gaps twelve

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and two all time against the Cougar Sins taking over

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in two thousand and five, but he's on a two

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game losing streak right now.

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Speaker 2: It's on a two game yeah, right now.

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Speaker 6: You know, last year, as we start to renew the

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rivalry and you get a lot of guys like I

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had Kiwan come come over to the shop last year,

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and I just started feeding these guys what this rivalry

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really is, to try to get them to understand how

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big it is.

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Speaker 5: And I'll tell you what. You know, if you talked

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to Qlan today about.

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Speaker 6: It, you know that one of the biggest rivalry games

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ever played in you know, and that's the same with

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Trey Alexander and I mean, these guys are just dancing

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around the inZone last year after the game, but really

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felt the energy of the rivalry and it's going to

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be super excited.

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Speaker 5: It's great to have two ranked teams. I wanted us

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to be undefeated.

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Speaker 6: And I wanted Utah to be undefeated to make it

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even a bigger game.

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Speaker 5: But I'm excited for the game.

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Speaker 6: I think that we got to minimize some of the

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mistakes that we made against Arizona. We got to really

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lock things down a little bit. And I think we'll

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have some of our some of our go to guys

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back with Jack Kelly. And you know, I haven't heard

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on Raider de Mouney. I'm hoping Raiders back. When he

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took that hard hit to the ribs, you know that

627
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that looked painful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I got to correct myself. I was doing

629
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my math. Grigley.

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Speaker 3: Kyle Whittingham's eleven and five all time against the BAYU

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Cougars since two thousand and five as the head coach.

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Speaker 5: But do you think he came back to beat b Whitey.

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Speaker 2: I do I think his legacy? My theory is this,

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My my thesis is this.

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Speaker 3: I guess I should pose the question first, is Kyle

636
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Whittingham's legacy as the greatest coach in Utah football history,

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based more so off of his dominance versus b Yu

638
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Okay or his double digit win seasons and shared conference

639
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championships in the Pac twelve and really never truly getting

640
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over the hump into that elite status, right, Like you

641
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know which one is it? More so based off of

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and I tend to lean more towards the rivalry game

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than what he's done outside of the rivalry game.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts, I.

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Speaker 6: Think it depends on who you ask, right and and

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after Saturday, I think some people's opinions might change.

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Speaker 5: You know. I think Utah fans going into this game,

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it's a it's.

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Speaker 6: A huge one for his legacy, you know, whether or

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not it ends up being that, you know, I don't

651
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necessarily think so.

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Speaker 5: I think he has been a great coach. He's been

653
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great for the state of Utah.

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Speaker 6: He's a players coach just like Colonias, and I know

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that his players love to play for him. He's done

656
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a lot for the Innsity And you know, let's be real,

657
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he's a he's a BYU alumni.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you know, the greatness comes from the fount of

659
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,400
b Yu right, the provo it does the Provo pipeline.

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If you will look at all the coaches in the

661
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,199
NFL in college football, you know they came out of BYU.

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Speaker 2: It was a good one. There's a great pipeline coming

663
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out of Provo right now.

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Speaker 6: There is well And for me, you know, I look

665
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at this game. You know, I never wanted Utah to

666
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win it. And then all of a sudden, my teammates

667
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were coaching at Utah. You know, I had I had

668
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Klate and a Rod and and then Jay Hill from

669
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Rix was coaching there. So everything kind of changed at

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one point where it's like, you know, I wanted Utah

671
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to win their games, except I wanted them to always

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to lose to BYU every year.

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Speaker 2: Totally get it. So how do you see this game

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playing out?

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Speaker 3: You know, they're from an objective metrics standpoint, what they've

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been able to produce on the football field thus far.

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Speaker 2: They mirror each other to a degree. I mean they

678
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really do.

679
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Speaker 3: Sure, they mirror each other, and they're more alike than

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they are dissimilar. And they Utah is a slight favorite

681
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heading into Lavelle Edwards Stadium.

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Speaker 2: So I like that, What do you what do you

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make of this?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean I liked that that that that.

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Speaker 6: We're the underdog at home with a with a better

686
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ranking and a better record, because that's going to drive

687
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some fuel into the players and the coaches, uh you

688
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know there. I feel like I watched you know, a

689
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number of plays of the Utah game this past week

690
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against Arizona State, and you know, I feel like they

691
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were they were kind of one dimensional, you know, and

692
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in their attack. Now now they didn't have to do

693
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much more because they were pretty much rolling over Arizona State.

694
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But they are real similar, real similar. And that We've

695
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got quarterbacks that can run the ball. We've got two

696
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offensive lines that are amazing, you know, super strong, able

697
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to move the pile. And I think that in the end,

698
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the team that wins this game, it's going to be

699
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down to that that the offensive and defensive lines and

700
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who is able to control that line, and and that's

701
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really going to determine it.

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Speaker 5: I do think special team is going to play a

703
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big role this week.

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Speaker 6: These rivalry games bring out, in my opinion, these special

705
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teams extraordinaries. You know, with Keeland last year on the

706
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:31,360
kick return man, Parker's just just feels like he's just

707
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,119
close to breaking the punt. You know, so I think

708
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this special team is going to play a big role

709
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this week. But man, I'm just excited this is that

710
00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:42,719
that week. It's probably the only week that I post

711
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on my Instagram stories every day about the rivalry. You know,

712
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,280
just just a little bit started out with Max Hall

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Speaker 5: Know, so it's gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 6: It's going to be interesting to kind of see who

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gets out and who gets in front.

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Speaker 5: These games are are momentum based games.

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Speaker 6: You know, we get whoever has that momentum is at

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the end of the game that last five six minutes

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of the game.

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Speaker 5: The momentum is typically who wins that game.

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Speaker 6: So it's going to be interesting to see who can

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hold more momentum throughout the entire.

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Speaker 5: Game than the other team. And I feel like that'll

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be the winner.

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Speaker 6: We'd love to hear that that you guys are listening

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Speaker 2: Love it man.

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Speaker 3: Well, we appreciate you always joining us. A couple last

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things before we let you go. What was your reaction

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when you saw James Franklin being fired from Penn State after,

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you know, being a top ten coach in college football

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over the last decade. I mean like he was in

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the colle football Playoff in the semi finals last year

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and all of a sudden he's five hundred through what

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six games or so, and the donor base, the fan base,

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the athletic department is kicking him to the curb and

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paying him almost fifty million. While doing it, they are

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hoping that somehow the Who's the most beautiful woman right now?

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Speaker 2: In the in the world is it.

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Speaker 3: They're they're dumping their wife of ten years, twelve years,

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hoping that somehow, some way, what like Sydney Sweeney's gonna

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answer their call, answer their text, answer their DNA.

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Speaker 2: Jlo's still up there. But you know, jo Man, Hey, hey,

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Jalo's getting old. He's just a number, like they are hoping, like, Hey,

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I hope they answer.

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Speaker 3: I hope Sidney Swiney answers my call, you know, hopefully

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fingers crossed.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, we got a lot to offer here at Penn State.

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We have a lot to offer. Yeah, they messed up.

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Speaker 6: So my feeling initially when I heard it, I was

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kind of embarrassed for the altogether, for the athletic department.

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I felt like, uh, I'm not a Penn State fan,

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but I felt let down that they could let.

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Speaker 5: Basically the expectations are excellent or you're out. That's it.

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That's it.

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Speaker 6: You can't have a bad season according to the Penn

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State administration.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, that's kind of the feeling that I had.

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I was just embarrassed by how they handled that.

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Speaker 6: Uh, you you you're not going to have an exceptional

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season every single year. Uh, there's so many factors that

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play into that, so and and and in the end,

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let's say they go and get the higher that they want, right,

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or they get the the dream candidate that they they

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always thought they wanted and the guy comes in and

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and and half the half the players transfer out right

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and he starts over and has a bad season next year?

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Are you going to fire him now or are you

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going to give him a chance to have a bad season?

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You know, so they've set up precedence that is, it's

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it's going to be hard to hold every single guy

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to that same standard, or you're going to be driving

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through coaches year after year and uh it, and and

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the grass isn't always greener. I think that you absolutely

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should have given him through the end of this year

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to see if he could turn that thing around.

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Speaker 5: And and let's look at some of the teams they play,

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like U C. L A's coming come that to be

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a pretty darn good team now, right. I don't know.

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I don't think that it was the right move. I

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think that.

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Speaker 6: The administration is allowing the donors to do and have

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too much of a say in the program itself.

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Speaker 5: And to say that I hope it backfires.

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Speaker 6: I don't because I don't hope that for the players,

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but sometimes I hope it for the administration because.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that they're looking at it with the

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in the right perspective.

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Speaker 3: What it shows me, it's kind of the disconnect. Even

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like if I take a study, an individual study the

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PAC twelve for instance, and what led the PAC twelve

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to die a slow and painful death. The administrators, the

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decision makers were so disconnected from the reality of the

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college football situation, the game of the game, right, they

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had no idea what was changing, They had no idea

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what was going on. And do that humorous their pompous nature.

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They're in titlement. They fell prey to the pride cycle,

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right and overvaluating themselves, overvalued themselves, etc. Like what's been

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happening over the last five years with the transfer portal

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and with the free market, capitalistic college football landscape that

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we're living in now, is that you're becoming more like

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an NFL league, which means the Kansas City Chiefs can

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beat a team that I mean, what have they got

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to five hundred now? Kansas City right now at five hundred, yeah, right,

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Like you could be a five hundred team and still

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make it into the playoffs because you're the best team

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at the end of the year. But you're a three,

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four to five loss team, but you're the best team

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in the playoffs, right because it's about trending in the

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right doors. At the end of the year, you're gonna

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see more parody. You're gonna see two and three loss

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teams eventually getting into the college football playoff.

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Speaker 2: That's what you're gonna see. And there's way more parody.

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Speaker 3: There's a reason why Nick Saban's out of the business now.

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Speaker 2: He saw the writing on the wall. He knew he

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could not happen unhopoly anymore. He knew it well.

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Speaker 6: And the amount of money that's coming in from outside

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sources that might not have been affiliated with athletics prior

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to NIL and prior to these opportunities to make money

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within the NCAA football industry.

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Speaker 5: There's now there's so many more hands involved in each team.

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Speaker 6: There's so much more money, millions and millions of dollars

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that's coming in with expectations placed on that, Like, these

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guys aren't putting that money in without expectations, and so

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I think there's just too much going on around some

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of these teams where there's too many, too many hands donating,

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too many hands that are saying, my money's here, and

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I expect this out of my money.

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Speaker 5: And if I'm not getting this return or I'm not

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getting X, Y and z, if something has to change,

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and then the pressure that they put on the administration's got.

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Speaker 2: To be a mess.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the incompetence is seeing new levels in my opinion,

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in this modern era from a leadership standpoint, you're seeing

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it everywhere. Jared, we got to run, but it's always

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Speaker 2: Jared, thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Ben, appreciate it.

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