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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Life's Quest Episode two. Good evening, guys,

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how are you? Yeah? It's been an interesting few weeks,

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I mean, God, trying to keep up with the torid,

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the recording and how things unfold and still stay in

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the present moment is so challenging, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Tell me about?

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Speaker 3: And I've only just got the hang of it after

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all these weeks.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Right tonight's episode, we're going to follow

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a thread that kind of started right at the beginning,

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and we've had the local walk. We've had this insight

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about a well, and on our attempts at trying to

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find a sacred well in our local area or wherever,

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we found that there was a boxing day walk from

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a chat to a sacred well in a village that

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wasn't that far away from where all of us lived,

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in a place called run Well. So obviously our interest

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was drawn to the church Saint Mary's there and the

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well itself. But we at this time, when we first

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came across this, we were incredibly well focused, won't we

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We were?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say so. We've done a bit of

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preliminary but I still feel myself this was our first

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sort of outing from you know, things new girls had

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sort of like picked up pond because I was quite

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new to this, so I was just going along with

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you girls. But I don't feel it was our sort

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of first major sort of outing somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Sort of.

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Speaker 1: It really was, wasn't it. It was like, we've got

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to go and have a ok at this well. Now,

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I live in this area, and I knew obviously about

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Runwell as a place because of the psychiatric hospital that

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was there, and from the paranormal side, we'd sort of

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like come across it, but I've never actually visited Runwell. Mylnea,

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I take it you didn't even have a clue that

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there was a place called Runwell or did you know

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that well.

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Speaker 4: Funny enough, I used to work in Runwell, not very

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far of the Sacred Well, if you like. And so yeah,

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at the first time that Richard drove in that particular

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road that I recognize this place. I recognize this place.

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And as we got to that point where we turn right,

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and then it clicked, I think the road does not

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end in there after all, It actually leads to such

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a beautiful sacred place. And I was just gob smarked

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because after working in there, for a good four years.

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After three years not going into that road at all,

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all of a sudden, I'm back there, and how amazing

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it has been.

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Speaker 1: What about you? Did you know about Running Well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I had a fague idea through sort of doing sort

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of reading in the past. You know, that has come

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up in some in some texts which I'm quite interested

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in with authors I follow, But I never thought I

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would ever actually go to the place. And I knew

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I knew run Well was sort of somewhere near Whitford,

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but that was about it, really, And it wasn't until

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I've done a bit more digging when this sort of

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came up on the table that I sort of we

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found out that allegedly still existed and found a few

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photos and a couple of articles. It's not that well

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published online, so we just really took it from there. Unfortunately, yes,

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we managed to get to it first hit We didn't

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have to wander about for too long.

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Speaker 1: But we went to the church first, didn't we And

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it wasn't open so we couldn't go in. So it

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was just like having a meand around the church, like

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the graveyard area, and that was really like sort of

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like our first port of call before we actually went

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to the well, wasn't it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: From a psychic perspective, when we enter that space and

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we go into it, we can notice bits and bobs,

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should we say, they have a relevancy to what journey

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we're on now. At this particular occasion, conquers were really key.

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Now this is we're looking at late November so and

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we're looking right outside a bus stop and these are great, big,

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juicy conquers and they called it right. So we collected

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a load of conquers. And then we found a sycamore,

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no sorry, a cedar, get that right, because between a

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cedar tree and there was a branch of the tree

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has some beautiful pine cones on the really tight pine cones,

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so it'd naturally fallen off the tree. We didn't pull

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it off the tree, and we took that with us

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as well. Richard is obviously you know, and Daryl was

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with us at the time. He's we don't quite know

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what's going on with He's off on a different planet

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of his own at the minute. I think, you know,

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these bits and bobs which for us as psychic, so

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our having symbolic meanings for you in the moment you

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must think, oh my god, what are they doing well?

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Speaker 2: And I'll be perfectly awesome.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about this part and today I thought,

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or we're going to the location, and I've been listening

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to the girls and they've been telling me all this

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sort of stuff, because I haven't really becoming tuned to this,

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and a little bit later on so I was still

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very sort of fresh breed and behind the years. So

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I thought, brilliant, first location, brilliant, We'll get there. We're

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gonna have signs and wonders, We'll get the Golden Statue

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quest done.

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Speaker 1: I think the hardest concept for you in this particular

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journey is the divine timing of things, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, And it is something that I am getting

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a bit sort of more gives to, is you know.

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I mean, I think, you know, we had a very

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recent trip out where divine timing obviously did play a part,

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but that's the latter.

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Speaker 2: But going back to Saint Mary's, yes, you know, I

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was new on the ground and in that sort of thing,

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and new girls are off and I didn't quite know

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what I.

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Speaker 3: Was supposed to be looking for because I've been to

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loads of churches before, and I sort of look at

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them more from a historic perspective. I'm going look at

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that Norman art, so look at this and you get

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also sort of you know, and I found something.

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Speaker 2: I found something. I'm brilliant and you.

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Speaker 3: Hold up a pine cot.

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Speaker 1: Let's flip it then, because at that moment you've got

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my Laner in the moment going, I've got the pine

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guys to vibe. How is it for you when you

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went at these places?

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Speaker 4: Well, for me, something very unusual and no one can comprehend.

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But it's a feeling that I have where I am

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step back in time, step back in in history, and

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yet there is no words where I can translate to

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what I'm experiencing within the pine cone. To me, obviously

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there seeds seeds of creation, the pineal glens and all

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of that. So then I am a lover of pine

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cons all sorts of size and different shapes, and they

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tell a beautiful star. But we are we're just going

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to listen.

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Speaker 2: I think the thing with my Liner is I had

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to get used to her her.

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Speaker 3: Collector mania, you know, stones, feathers and ponkers and pine cones,

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which is you know at first, but I you know,

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I can't see the point and yeah, but but at first.

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Speaker 2: I thought, well, well this is going to be fun,

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isn't it.

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Speaker 1: And then from that point we kind of headed off

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to the well. And after that, for quite a while

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we became quite well focused. We did a few trips

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and various high days and holidays of the wicker world

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does it wear? Or the moon cycles. But ultimately, in

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regards to Saint Mary's, that kind of was it. We

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kind of like, it was like at the church. If

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we're at the well, now, wasn't it. We kind of

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dismissed it, but it kind of became not the relevant point,

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that's right, Yeah, because.

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Speaker 4: We were other churches, wouldn't we have founder slightly further

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afield then within our doughter state. But the St. Maybe's

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Church was like almost it wasn't calling us.

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Speaker 3: Back, not at that point, not for a while. And

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I think with the well, now we're onto that. Yes,

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we've been there a few times, but the first time everything,

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and the second time was quite an Eventually we we

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found the sacred world and that sounds good in itself.

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Were all punking around and I was falling from one

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end to the other because I have to tell the listeners.

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I'm not very steady on my feet at the best

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of times. And the well is a bit sort of

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you know, sort of down an embankment, which I can

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tend to get from top to bottom quite quickly if

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I'm not too steady on the feet. So when I

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go there now, I tend to observe and from above

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a new more intrepid lot go down and do the

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searching and seeking. But it is a I feel it

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is a central point to us. It is important. But

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whatever it is we are questing for, which we may

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have some ideas about now, it's beyond that. But the

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well is the central sort of point, and there's spokes

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coming off it which we are heading in and we

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will obviously find something following those sort of threads.

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Speaker 2: It's like the center of the web we have to

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Speaker 1: Like when you're actually at that well and that and

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we was talking to a gentleman yesterday and it's actually

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the figure of Saint Mary's in Rommell's Church, and I

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was explaining how sacred that space feels in nature, you know,

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like when I step into it, I become so centered

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and so focused and so dedicated and so sacred. It

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feels so sacred to me at that well, it's really

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hard not to sort of like you have to kind

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of fight the ego of protection over it, because that's

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how it makes you feel. It's so sacred to you

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that you don't want anybody else to sort of like

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encroach on it. But it's not your it's a piece

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of nature. So it's it's almost like a lesson in

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getting out of your own ego stay of protection in

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that place. And that's a very sacred honor space because.

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Speaker 3: That place, I do see it has a sort of

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a profound effect on you carry and when we don't

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sort of and sort of myself and Darryl, you know,

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we keep well away from you when you're in that

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sort of zone. We sort of hide in the background

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while you're off. We dare interrupt you.

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Speaker 1: No, because for me, that's something I'm claiming. It's it's

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I need my focus and concentration on that moment. I

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don't need the distraction in the physical as it were,

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because I'm not in the physical effectively. I'm now in

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that space and it talks to you and it's almost

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like pulling you out of one reality into like one dimension,

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should I say, into another dimension? It disrupts that energy.

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But when you're in or when I'm in that space,

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the well space, I feel like I need to be

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so focused and concentrated because my whole devotion is there

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in that space of why I'm there, what I'm doing,

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my faith, my trust is there. Do you know what

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Speaker 3: For me?

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Speaker 1: That's just how it feels for me. And in a way,

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I now have an appreciation of churches because I can

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see how that provides that space on a community basis.

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It's not just about you and yourself and your own sacredness.

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It then brings it into the wider community. So that's

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where we was very much focused. But where we was parking. Now,

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this is something we needed to really address because you know,

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a lot of churches and places we go to our

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public access, we do not trespass. We are very mindful

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if we're having to walk along a public path that's

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by farmers field. There's something we're very dedicated to is

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abiding by the laws of our countryside. Shall we say

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it's very much It sounds like we like trumpetling all

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around the countryside, but we do follow specific rambling roots

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that are allowed and being respectful about that. So I

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would urge everybody to be mindful of that if they're

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out and about doing psychic questing, because it can't get

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a little bit crazy at times, guys. So it then

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pulled it right. So we went to the World, but

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we were we needed to get back there because our

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way had got blocked because where we were parking, we've

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been asked not to, so we had to find a

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different entrance. Now we thought we had. We thought we had,

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and we cased it out. It looked promising, but when

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we actually attempted it, our way was barred by three

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barking dogs.

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Speaker 3: That was because you and Daryl went out and sort

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of susice route out a couple of nights before, and

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then you told me and Marlowe and so on the Sunday,

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I think when we usually meet up on a Sunday

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at my lanus and then we go off to do

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our whatever we feel we need to do for that week.

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And we went off and you and Darrell directed me

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through the place to park and I was quite happy,

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you know. It was sort of down the end of

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a track, lots of sort of little houses around. I

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was quite happy to leave the par there and to

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go on the walk to the well. But as we

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were preparing, yeah, these these dogs came down the driveway

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and there's no date on the drive and they came

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out and yet barked a lot at And if there

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were little of dogs they would have been all right.

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But one of them was an Alsatian, which I think

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most people are usually a bit weckery about.

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Speaker 1: I think for me, the three types of dogs were

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what was key because there was an Alsatian, there was

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a dashing and there was a cockapa, right, which.

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Speaker 2: At least all but.

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Speaker 1: Those three dogs are really relevant in my life, you

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know what I mean. My best friend's got the Dutch,

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and I had an Alsatian colleague, and my parents have

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got the cockap. This is screaming at me, do not

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go this way? Right, I am backing away, like it's

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going on. My Lena, you're quite bright, You're quite fearless

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in regards, like you're just like, oh, yes, shut up,

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you know, and carrying on going. Where were you in

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that moment, because keating our way was being blocked from

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going that way.

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Speaker 4: Well, to we start with, I was trying very hard

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to not freeze inside. I am garified off dogs, especially Alsatians,

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but I do have a bit of a history with

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a dog attack and it happens to be Alsatians. And

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it wasn't a very nice accident, incident, whatever you want

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to call. It was quite tragic. So he had scared

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me for life. I love animals. You know you're Merlyn Moore,

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how much I loved him. Somebody else's dog, I am okay.

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But a dog that I don't know, oh, because they're

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very unpredictable. I don't day and I don't send their language.

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But within that I'm aware of my wolding spirits, and

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they just told me that is not the way, getting

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a car and go. But then I go, Richard, don't

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touch the dog. Don't offer your hunts because you will

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think it's dinner. We don't want that. Come on, have

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you up calling? Go and get Darbro. Please, you need

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to get that carr and go. We need to go,

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go now. And that all I gave repeated. So, yeah,

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it was an evening that I was, if I cannot remember,

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be wonderful. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: What we did find though, where we talked. As we

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stepped out the car, there were these.

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Speaker 4: Little red rorolls is plastic roses.

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Speaker 1: Now, what we think they are a little rose buds

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that get tied into horses manes when they're dressed up

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for their chosen That's what we think they are. But

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we found six of those. Yes, Numerology six is the

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vibration of love.

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Speaker 5: And so because our way to the well had been blocked,

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we had to sort of like we just wanted to

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get out of there, so we reconvened, and we chose

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to reconvene at Saint Mary's shows that we're all super rattled.

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Speaker 1: We're thinking we're never going to get back to the well.

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So there's a level of panic there as well, because

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we love the well, right, and we all end up

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in this graveyard again the church isn't open, and again

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it's a beautiful place, and we're sort of like app checking,

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you know, like we're on Google Maps and like trying

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to find a different route, and things are getting a

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little bit for so, like you know, people are walking

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away and taking five minutes because everything's trying to be

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worked to again, well focused, how do we get back

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to the well?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 6: We need resolve it on that night, But I don't

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want to focus on that bit. I want to focus

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on where we were at when we were the second

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time at that well because one layer you did you

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use your I don't really get the apps, so I'm

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going to have a.

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Speaker 1: Wonder to deal with it. You went for a little

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walk around the graveyard. Where was you at in that moment?

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This is a second visit.

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Speaker 4: But at the second visit, well, we start with as

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we got back to the church after not being able

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to get to the well. If you remember, there was

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like a little card on the floor with a red rose.

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That's right, I was so and then they kind of

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called me back to the pine tree, but instead of

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pine cones, what I found was just the end beat

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of the pine cones, but they looked like a little rosa.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, what happens to the ones we had found in

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the first one. Obviously we brought them in over the

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winter that expanded and they kind of exploded, right, It

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was crazy. It was amazing, just the sudden just going back.

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But then I leave like like a rosette off from

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the very top and they looked like roses. And that's

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what my lane I had found underneath the tree on

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the second visit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, after collecting the roses from the ground. Very excited,

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veryful for that, not really understanding what the meaning for

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that was, but we get to that later. So they

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pulled me back right at the back of the church

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and they made me keep looking up at the glass window.

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They kept saying on the right hand side, and I

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kept looking, but I think it's just a wall. The

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sawceer stone is not gonna be there. What am I

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looking that I'm not seeing? And they go, you're not

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seeing because you're gonna get indoors. It's from inside, but

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it's on the right hand side, on the bottom of

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the wall. Not having the focused idea of what we

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would encounter at our later visits on that day. So yes,

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but there was a very strong pulling behind the church

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and slightly to the left when the graveyard started, and

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obviously a beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Eel and you found a geo cash.

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Speaker 4: There was there was a little geo cash, and none

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of us had a pain with us at the day.

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Speaker 1: It was we did this at the well because there's

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one at the well as well. Focused by the way,

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spoiler and take with you while you are actually psychic questioning,

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because these little things up and it's the weirdest thing

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when you find them is because you're not doing it

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through that act.

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Speaker 3: You're just finding, you know, find.

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Speaker 4: Corners and cracks, isn't it. It's because I remember finding

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something on the floor and then I go there or

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found something, can you come and check it? And then

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he tells me, oh, we found one of them in

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the well is the geo cash. And I think geocash

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things like something that you write down how much spain,

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how much you're coming in, and all of that's true.

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Now it's just this beautiful little people zine. So let's

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adds know you've been there, you're of the right track.

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Speaker 3: I think with the we shouldn't be a bit quiet

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about the g O cash because there might be listeners

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who do this. And now we're just giving two locations away.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, we said where they are, but we did not

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say to the precisely that information.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay, well and we'll keep that. But yeah.

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Speaker 3: The second time at the church, for me, I sort

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of like arrived. I mean.

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Speaker 2: I saw just worked like around the back.

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Speaker 3: I I think I was hiding from you, Kerry, you know,

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because I think you're a bit fraught, so and you know.

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Speaker 2: What, I like so I went around the back.

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Speaker 3: But that's when Marlena came up, and we were sort

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of like chat and the geocas came up because I

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was quite interested.

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Speaker 2: And that church has a couple of holes in the

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wall that.

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Speaker 3: Actually go from the outside of just small square holes

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that go from the outside to the inside of the church.

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And I found those quite interesting. And they're both on

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the opposite sides of the of l like the altar.

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You look in and you can see the altar, and

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I found those sort of quite interesting. And I'm not

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too sure quite what they'refore, but you know, there there,

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and they obviously serve a purpose because I thought I

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might have discovered one of those places. Oh I forgot

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the name where you were and where the people were

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walled up the Hermits, Oh yeah, the Anonites.

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Speaker 2: Thought I found an Anonite set.

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Speaker 1: It's not mh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, that was.

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Speaker 3: Sort of just grounding and sort of I didn't really

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sort of get a lot from the second sort of visit,

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you know, because we were sort of I felt sort

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of pulled in, you know, the well, the church, you know,

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I felt a bit in between them. But then we

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did sort of work out, we decided we were going

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to head back to the well, but we sort of

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parked in a sort of it wasn't the directions you

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wanted to go in, but we thought, well, we want

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we wanted to head there anyway, so we knew there

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was a place we could part without a problem. And yeah,

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so we went back to the well after that. But

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the church on the second visit, Yeah, that was a

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bit sort of a bit ad hop, I felt. And

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because we weren't expecting to go there, I didn't have

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time to prepare to go there. So yeah, it's and

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it was neither here nor there for me.

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Speaker 4: No, it was a bit hit and miss.

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Speaker 1: But I think what it did do is it highlighted

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the significance. It was almost like we've been there twice,

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but we don't really know much about it. And it

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sort of as we were sort of doing a bit

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of work around the well, you know, researching the world,

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we'd come across Andy Collins's work, The Sacred Well.

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Speaker 4: Now Darryl had.

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Speaker 1: Tracked her down this book for us, he's gone away.

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He managed to get a copy. Our good friend Andy

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Muzud also has supplied us with a copy of this

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book so we could have a look at it and

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we read it, and my god, the information that came

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out showed the exact relevancy of Saint Mary's. It really

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started to bring that to the fore because of the

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Reverend J. E. Basil Corbyn welcome to the room kind

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of fire, because a lot of the folkl or and

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mythology that surrounds the well it's actually come from that

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particular area. But one thing really started to scream out

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to us we needed to do a bit more work

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and have a look at the church in a little

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bit more detail, which is where we said our trusty

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Richard off and is it Richard, do some work, do

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your research on it, because we don't just like take

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somebody else's work. We kind of like following our own

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threads as well. So all of this comes up and

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Richard goes away and does his little research, don't you

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sweet and what do you find out?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think I've got in contact with you when

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I produced it, and with Bloody Ill.

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Speaker 1: I think the thing was that we were having a

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lot of it all kind of what happens is they

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throw a lot of stuff at you and then all

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of a sudden it starts a collidoscope into place. And

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it all comes clear on the journey towards this moment,

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we were reading signs about the Titanic. It has a

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sign of a book that called a retention in the

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local walk again a local, but I was like, the

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Titanic's important, I don't know why. And we kind of

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went off on a side thread of when did it sink?

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And you know, the usual bump refreshing your memory about

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the Titanic. We talked about World War Two and a

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pilot and the thread of the Australian cores and we

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had researched endlessly trying to find threads to the Australian

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core in this period of time, and we couldn't find

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any thread whatsoever in Essex. Quite frankly could be Richard.

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Speaker 2: No, not really no.

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Speaker 3: But it was sort of like because when you think

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of military, I mean, you tend to go towards the army,

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you know, but during World War Two, the Australian and

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the Army were not sort of heavily present in Britain.

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But there's another branch of the military which there was

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a lot of Australians present war, and that is the

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ris exactly.

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Speaker 1: So these are extra threads we had not picked up

479
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,640
on them anywhere else we were going, and things went

480
00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:13,440
unfolding in that way. Obviously we wanted to research the

481
00:29:13,559 --> 00:29:16,039
land of Running Well, so we've got Poplace Farm and

482
00:29:16,119 --> 00:29:19,839
Flemings Farm where we knew that at some point the

483
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,799
Souilliard family was involved in the church, so I kind

484
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:27,000
of knew the periphery, and then obviously inside the church

485
00:29:27,079 --> 00:29:29,599
we knew now from Andy Collins's book there was the

486
00:29:29,839 --> 00:29:34,400
prioresses too. So Richard is researching, he comes up with

487
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,400
all of these threads and he pulls them all together

488
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:44,000
in his research connected to Saint Mary's. Yeah, yeah, and

489
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,839
it kind of was one of those colleidoscope moments where

490
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:51,240
psychic comeets reality kind of vibe and it all kind

491
00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:54,480
of does like clicked in because the other.

492
00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 3: It was at that point, you know, I thought we've

493
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:04,359
got to get access into that church. Yeah and yeah, yeah,

494
00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:08,839
sort of it was sort of quite I've often heard

495
00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:11,920
of you girls talk about downloads when you get sort

496
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,279
of a lot of sort of like information, and I supposed,

497
00:30:15,359 --> 00:30:17,960
for me, to be honest, that was and thinking back

498
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,319
on it whilst doing the research and everything, it seemed

499
00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:24,880
a bit more because I'm used to doing it and

500
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,559
historical research, and it can be a bit dry, you know.

501
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,480
It is a bit of a sort of like a

502
00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:33,880
speciality sort of nerdy thing, you know, and you have

503
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:34,759
to be into it.

504
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,799
Speaker 2: But doing the.

505
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,599
Speaker 3: Research on that and actually knowing that it was somehow

506
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,319
something I was involved in sort of later on, you know,

507
00:30:46,519 --> 00:30:50,880
but doing historical research and looking back, yeah, I was

508
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:56,599
surprised how all the threads came in really quickly because

509
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,559
that piece of research. Once I was onto the main

510
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,400
sort of aspects of it, it just all come together.

511
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,200
And I'd done that paper and we've been about, you know,

512
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,519
sort of two hours, which is incredibly quick for me.

513
00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:13,000
I mean when I write articles and stuff. My articles,

514
00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:16,519
you know, they take a week and they I just

515
00:31:16,599 --> 00:31:23,160
looked like a thousand words articles and this came out

516
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,640
in about two hours, I thought, bloody hell. So it

517
00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:29,519
came out more or less perfectly as well, and it

518
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,720
came really key that we.

519
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,599
Speaker 1: Need to visit the church and go inside the church

520
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,240
and really boots on the ground, tonails in the ground.

521
00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:44,960
But again there was a huge gap before we did it.

522
00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:48,279
In fact, the last time we did a podcast, we

523
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,799
hadn't been to the church. We did the podcast, and

524
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,079
I actually said on the podcast, we really need to

525
00:31:56,119 --> 00:31:58,359
get that pinned down, and we did it just before

526
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,680
Dary hollybops.

527
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 4: Yes, that's great.

528
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: So there's quite a long gap between the second visit

529
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,920
and the first visit, but so much else unfolded in

530
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:19,680
that time, the article and the research and colidoscoped in

531
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,119
but kind of we've kind of like dabbled a little

532
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,240
bit and not really got anywhere further with the research,

533
00:32:26,319 --> 00:32:28,519
and we kind of just shelved it to the point

534
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:31,000
that Richard even lost the document and I had to find.

535
00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:32,039
Speaker 4: It and send it to him again.

536
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,759
Speaker 1: It was like Colides go up to this document and

537
00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:37,759
then we didn't do anything with it. But it didn't

538
00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:39,400
it wasn't the right time. And this is where the

539
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:40,599
divine timing comes in.

540
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: We need to go to the church. The children, it's

541
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,279
not right.

542
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 4: This was like a.

543
00:32:54,079 --> 00:33:00,079
Speaker 1: Demand to go to church. So we it aligned. We

544
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:02,920
were all together on a Sunday and order a church

545
00:33:03,079 --> 00:33:08,880
service at Saint Mary's in Runwell. And how wonderful was that.

546
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 4: I know, it was so magical.

547
00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: Walking into that church. You know, it was so different

548
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,400
from what I sort of like thought it was going

549
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,799
to be. Because thinking about it, I don't think there's

550
00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:26,799
a lot of photographs online of the interior because I couldn't.

551
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,559
You know, I don't think I found much about that.

552
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:31,720
You know, probably a photo of the prioresses too, but

553
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,160
that's about it. But I've walked into the church, and

554
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,480
I've been in a lot of churches in my time

555
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:42,319
with my historical interests and stuff, but that was different.

556
00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:47,079
I mean, atmospherically, I wouldn't say so, but it was.

557
00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:51,400
It was architecturally, it was, you know, a church, but

558
00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:55,119
it had elements in it, paintings on the wall which

559
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,920
you don't see in other churches and stuff. So you know,

560
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:07,240
someone who's there who we now believe is the vicar

561
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,760
when we know it's the vicar who was there in

562
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,199
the early nineteen hundreds, who'd done a lot of work there,

563
00:34:13,559 --> 00:34:17,159
and he was obviously trying to, I feel, trying to

564
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,400
express something because it was him that done all the

565
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:23,840
paintings on the pillars and stuff like that.

566
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:27,639
Speaker 2: So he does sound a bit of a reader day because.

567
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 3: I'm sure the Church of England wouldn't have been happy

568
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:34,039
with him doing that back in the day, but it

569
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:39,360
certainly survived and they have and the church vicar or

570
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,800
the congregation now have kept it very very well.

571
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: They have so from mylner's perspective, we're now going to

572
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,679
the church for a service. And so how did the

573
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,519
church feel to you as you entered?

574
00:34:56,119 --> 00:35:05,639
Speaker 4: Definitely a different energy in print. Now. I was overwhelmed

575
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:10,880
for the beauty of the carvings or on that work

576
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,920
on the woods at the altar as you stepped into

577
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:20,880
the altar, but also the colors was beautiful. But the

578
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,920
experience I have had in that place, it's definitely one

579
00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:31,760
that I have not experienced before. So now to then

580
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,599
find out where the private stone was, to me, it

581
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,719
was a validation that and I reminded that sometimes I

582
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,079
do allow doubt to creep in because I listened too

583
00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:49,199
much to others around me instead of really just listening

584
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,519
to my guts. So it was a confirmation it was

585
00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:56,239
ready was they said was going to be. But I

586
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,880
don't feel we have not spent enough time that yet.

587
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,960
I do feel we need to go back more. We

588
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:08,519
need to spend more time, give a little bit more devotion.

589
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 3: Now.

590
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 4: One very interesting thing, because we said we're gonna go,

591
00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:15,800
we needed to go, but the gap that it took

592
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,480
for us to get there, wasn't it. But if you

593
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,840
recall the inner work and the understanding that all of

594
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,800
us have to find when it comes to the real

595
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:36,679
deep sacredness that comes from the Virgin. Maybe, and we

596
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,639
explored a little bit more about the Virgin maybe, haven't

597
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,119
we that? Without that church, I don't really think we

598
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,920
would have gone down that road to an extent.

599
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 2: That's all I said to you two girls, and I

600
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,199
think you sort of sensed it.

601
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: Marline's sort of been Catholic, and yourself, I got a

602
00:36:57,079 --> 00:37:01,880
very heavy sort of polic vibe in there. There certainly

603
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:06,559
seemed to be some more sort of dedication to the

604
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,599
Virgin Mary, which is a very patholic, sort of big

605
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,239
you know the Church of England. Churches are usually sort

606
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,840
of they don't sort of and entertain that much. Now,

607
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,920
there was a couple of statues of the Virgin Mary

608
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,599
there and there, and there appeared to be an altar

609
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,519
to her at the side. Wasn't there with the big

610
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:31,440
statue where a few people went and prayed and lit

611
00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:32,039
a candle.

612
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:34,639
Speaker 2: But when we came away and.

613
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: I spoke to Kerry, and Kerry came up to me

614
00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:40,960
and she goes, you know, there was some very spiritually

615
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,880
attuned fruitioners in that church.

616
00:37:45,159 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: It's but I think that when you're in that space,

617
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,559
it's a holding space, isn't it. Regardless of what theology

618
00:37:56,639 --> 00:37:59,719
you're following. You know, it creates a space where you

619
00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:05,880
hand open to your connection with whatever, however you've framed

620
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,639
that connection. So let's bring it back to the church

621
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:15,639
an hour experience rather than focusing on other people. We

622
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,280
sat through a service, and a beautiful service. It's a

623
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,880
lovely community feel. Everyone was very friendly. We went, we

624
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,360
had communion. It was a nice devotional and they did

625
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,840
a repeat thing, didn't they. They did in all the

626
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,760
songs and everything, which I didn't really know the song,

627
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,880
so I couldn't really take part. There was beautiful singing

628
00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:42,719
from the parishioners, but they did the repeat thing and

629
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,000
the harmonies. That's what brought into me, the harmony where

630
00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:51,679
the vicar sang and then the congregation repeated it, and

631
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,920
it felt very monastic, didn't it.

632
00:38:54,039 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 3: I think they're more so because the responses is a

633
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,480
part of the sort of like service in sea of

634
00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:08,719
the sort of services church services. But there, that's the

635
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,280
first time I've ever heard of via sing and the

636
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,679
congregations sing back. You know, I found that quite sort

637
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:18,519
of wow.

638
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: But you just its vibration that that made you feel

639
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,960
within it. Sorry, rich I don't mean to cut you off.

640
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,400
Just it's the spiritual aspects on this one. I'm trying

641
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,079
to get across here. So when they were doing that

642
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,039
response is I felt that vibrational feels and that came

643
00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:42,599
from my solo through into my heart test cavity and

644
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,000
it really sort of like encouraged that communication, which is

645
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:52,239
strange because cosmologically, in the last few weeks we've been

646
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,880
sitting in communication being key and it's weird how it

647
00:39:57,079 --> 00:40:00,639
kind of like started for us in regards to Saint

648
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,679
Mary's experience that we last went to, and that's sort

649
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,760
of literally bringing that right into the present moment. But

650
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,679
in that moment where they're.

651
00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:16,159
Speaker 4: Doing responses, well, for me, it took me back to

652
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:22,159
my early childhood memories of being in a church. Now,

653
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:27,320
as you guys know, we mentioned before my Roman Catholic background,

654
00:40:28,199 --> 00:40:31,920
So the church that I used to go to, we

655
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:37,599
have that type of service that the priest sings and

656
00:40:38,559 --> 00:40:44,840
everybody else's answer back singing, and to me always starts

657
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,880
right on my sacral and it comes right up through

658
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,440
me and it transports me to such a heavenly place.

659
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,719
And being in that church, it took me back to

660
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,760
that route that I deeply miss. And again why did

661
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,480
I miss? Because of the singing and the vibration that

662
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:11,400
triggers within you, and that vibration as it goes and

663
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,039
it goes out in the ether, it's so beautiful, so sacred,

664
00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:21,480
and that is what raises everyone's vibration. And where now

665
00:41:21,639 --> 00:41:25,079
links where the planet be changes and with no communication.

666
00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:29,880
It's been such a key for quite a while, hasn't it.

667
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:36,400
And how we communicate often it's not from a higher frequency,

668
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,960
it's actually very low. And I felt that especially the

669
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:44,719
four of us coming together on this spiritual journey to

670
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,599
learn and explore and expand four of us to be

671
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:55,760
in that sacred place, in that service, working that frequency,

672
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,840
that vibration within us, and for you to be so

673
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:03,679
aware of that experience what from is the most natural thing.

674
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,480
It was such a gift. But one thing I did

675
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:14,280
observe within my churches, we would do the Our Father's

676
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:19,840
prayer and would always follow by the hail maybe And

677
00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:23,920
one thing I left the church very deep in thoughts

678
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:29,159
about it. A beautiful church dedicated to the Virgin maybe

679
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,000
and not once they done her prayers.

680
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: Wow, that's something to be explored later. I felt for

681
00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:40,000
me when I was sat there through the service. We

682
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:44,000
were sat by one of the posts, and on that

683
00:42:44,199 --> 00:42:47,599
post there was a new real that was done by

684
00:42:47,679 --> 00:42:51,800
the Reverend bas Copin, and it was of Saint Peter's

685
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:52,920
and then of Jesus.

686
00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 4: And also there was a.

687
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: Stained glass window high above on the far right hand side,

688
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:02,440
and it looked like a jigsaw puzzle, lots of different

689
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,599
bits of stained glass put in there. It doesn't look

690
00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:07,599
like a picture at all. It puzzled. In fact, it

691
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:14,159
puzzled me. And the red and white sorry, the red

692
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:19,920
and blackstones outside the priorities too, and also by the

693
00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:22,880
Virgin Mary. I was seeing stain glass window, but the

694
00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:26,280
only part of it that my brain was able to

695
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,719
sort of like focus on in this stain glass winners.

696
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,079
I couldn't tell you what the stained glass was. All

697
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:33,119
I could tell you was I know that the William

698
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,400
became really important there was it was almost like William,

699
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,599
it was really really important. So I'm like, right, okay.

700
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,880
So I enjoyed the service and devoted, I have my prayers,

701
00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:46,199
we do the thing, we have a good look around,

702
00:43:47,159 --> 00:43:50,599
we go out into the churchyard. We're really enjoying the experience.

703
00:43:50,679 --> 00:43:53,719
We feel back to being centered. And it was a

704
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,719
lovely time, wasn't it. It was a really lovely experience.

705
00:43:59,199 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, you know, it was worth the

706
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:09,199
way to put it that way, And I certainly feel

707
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,039
now sort of like reflecting.

708
00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: On it, and it wasn't that long ago.

709
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 3: Perhaps it was their things started fall in place for

710
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,199
me getting more sort of like a cur and even

711
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,719
though my sort of major event happened a little bit later,

712
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:29,599
but I feel that that aspect of the journey for

713
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,719
me was important. Don't ask me to go into it

714
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,199
too deeply. I'm not pretty sure why. But if I

715
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:41,199
was to put a finger on it saying where did

716
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:46,360
it all start? I would be very very confident to

717
00:44:46,639 --> 00:44:47,639
place it there.

718
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: Interesting life on air and exclusive to p a UK Radio.

719
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,800
His awakenings started at the Saint Mary's Church in One World.

720
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,800
So anyway, we came off the back of that particular experience.

721
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,519
Now we take loads of photographs, you know that, we

722
00:45:11,079 --> 00:45:14,480
have a good mutu around. We write in the geocash,

723
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:17,559
you know, like all of those things have like settled

724
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:21,079
in and we're now looking for those four key points

725
00:45:21,159 --> 00:45:24,440
that we look at. So we photograph the Titanic grave,

726
00:45:25,079 --> 00:45:28,760
the World War two guy that we'd found, the craft

727
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:34,159
guy we the privacies to him, obviously, and remnants of

728
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,719
what we know about the silly Ard family within the church,

729
00:45:38,119 --> 00:45:41,239
and obviously loads of other photocasts with beautiful stained glass windows,

730
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:51,039
one in specific being the arch Angel Gabriel. Now again

731
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,360
bringing it into the present, how focused I was on

732
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:59,320
that particular stained glass window. And since then, what's happened

733
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,480
in the last few weeks is we've seen more and

734
00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:06,320
more signs about the Archangel Gabriel, including our very own

735
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:11,400
literally last night, we were at a different church, different story,

736
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,960
so we'll just pute to the thing. But we find

737
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,960
a trumpet. We find literally a trumpet, and it's like

738
00:46:18,559 --> 00:46:22,079
Archangel Gabriel's heralding message has kind of hit the earth,

739
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,119
and it was like, that's the kind of psychic impressions

740
00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:28,039
that come through. So in the last three weeks, Archangel

741
00:46:28,119 --> 00:46:31,239
Gabriel has been in everybody. So if he's been heralding

742
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:35,480
everything that needs to happen or not happened, so just

743
00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:38,199
be aware of that because all the eas is herald

744
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,960
and we just it's like a town crier. So I'm

745
00:46:44,039 --> 00:46:48,440
really paying attention to this. So off the back of

746
00:46:48,519 --> 00:46:51,280
this we puddle off and we go right. I suppose

747
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,679
it's about time we actually did a bit of deeperent

748
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,639
research and what we've actually seen. And this is where

749
00:46:56,679 --> 00:46:58,840
we started kind of like come a way more from

750
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,440
psychic and we're looking for validations And I'm a lot

751
00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:07,119
more flexible and fluid because I don't I just allow

752
00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:11,719
a research sef is how I do it. I follow

753
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,119
a thread, I get a thought, and I google it

754
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:17,639
and see what happens. Richard's a lot more structured in

755
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,559
his form of research. And in between all of this

756
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:25,480
we get regular downloads from How does that work for you?

757
00:47:25,639 --> 00:47:29,519
Because after the event Marlanea, you continue to get downloads,

758
00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:32,119
don't you, from the event of the church?

759
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:33,559
Speaker 2: Yeah?

760
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: So how does that work? Because we're working with what

761
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:39,679
we experienced in the moment and what came to the

762
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,000
fore for us. And then alongside of this, you're kind

763
00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:45,199
of like adding meat to bone or trying to add

764
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,599
meat to bones, aren't you?

765
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:50,559
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, something like that, isn't it? And The thing is,

766
00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:54,360
once they get me to those sacred places and I

767
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,480
am open, So what they do it's kind of like

768
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,880
a little responge. They soaked me out with all the

769
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,800
information that is needed and I'm still open and the

770
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,480
orpens it is until they said now it's time to

771
00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:14,880
a step back. So for me, it's quite normal.

772
00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:24,519
Speaker 1: How we three kind of work in the aftermath. You

773
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,599
kind of call it you knowing what you experienced, how

774
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:32,239
you felt, you're following threads. So we get to the

775
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,400
point of the four points that Richard kaleidoscoped into with

776
00:48:36,519 --> 00:48:40,559
this article, we then start going, okay, so we focused

777
00:48:40,639 --> 00:48:44,000
on those while we were kind of there, But what

778
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,440
else did we get now?

779
00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 4: Two?

780
00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna only really talk about too, because the

781
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,679
prioress is too, and the Soulliard family, the Flemings, and

782
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:58,119
the popular Poplars. It's kind of like a massive thread

783
00:48:58,159 --> 00:49:02,559
that has yet to full fit or its potential. That's

784
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:07,239
just more there, and we haven't quite separated the wheat from.

785
00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 4: The chaff on that No, we're in between the.

786
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: But the two most validating pieces of information that came

787
00:49:17,559 --> 00:49:21,639
forward came from the most unexpected angles. I would have said,

788
00:49:22,679 --> 00:49:25,880
because I first started looking at I did look into

789
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,280
the Prioress's tomb in regards to why was it empty

790
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,639
when they opened it in the nineteen hundreds, Right, it

791
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,719
was opened, there's no prioress in there, But empty tombs

792
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,599
in churches is actually a common thing because it's representative

793
00:49:39,679 --> 00:49:42,360
of the empty tomb when they went to go and

794
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,920
see if there was Jesus there. There's an empty tomb, right,

795
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:49,440
So it's symbolic of that. So that's not surprising. But

796
00:49:49,559 --> 00:49:51,679
I kind of like kind of ran out of thread

797
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,039
on that one, and I find that the thread of

798
00:49:55,519 --> 00:49:58,840
the who the Prioress is supposed to be is sketchy

799
00:49:59,039 --> 00:50:04,480
and we can't haven't quite got the right connection on it.

800
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:05,760
Does that make sense?

801
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I've looked into her, I mean you're just

802
00:50:11,199 --> 00:50:14,559
sort of, you know, because all we've really got the Internet,

803
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,639
and there's only what's available there, and it's and you

804
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:22,639
just kept up and directed back to the same resource.

805
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,039
I mean, there's there's very there's only one resource out

806
00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:30,360
there really that's somebody's sat down and written, and so

807
00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:33,559
you just it just keeps going back to there, and

808
00:50:34,039 --> 00:50:39,039
you can't seem to sort of get much beyond that.

809
00:50:39,519 --> 00:50:45,400
You know, and this is like basically a seventeenth century account.

810
00:50:45,679 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: That's all.

811
00:50:46,119 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 3: It is, late seventeenth century account, and that's.

812
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 2: All we've got, you know, So that's all we've got

813
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:53,559
to work with.

814
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,639
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's a difficult one. And family

815
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,199
and this is sort of like the Sillier family and

816
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,639
the prioress are so intertwined, and let's be fair, they

817
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,679
had lots of children back in the day, they had

818
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,440
lots of renaming with the same name, and it gets

819
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,880
a little confusing. So we're leaving those two particular throws

820
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,599
to the side for the next you know, for the

821
00:51:19,039 --> 00:51:24,000
rest of this particular show. We did look into the

822
00:51:24,119 --> 00:51:27,320
World War two pilot, as you do. So I have

823
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,360
a little look around and I just came across like

824
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:35,920
a little website with information on it and the guy's name.

825
00:51:37,679 --> 00:51:40,639
This is the thing, right, This is the really weird thing.

826
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:46,559
The guy who we know about, right is what was

827
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:47,000
his name?

828
00:51:51,159 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 2: Oh? Which it's a William, isn't it.

829
00:51:56,559 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't No, it wasn't. The one in Romwel Church

830
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:06,599
Saint Mary's is Sergeant E. A. Robinson, Arthur Robinson, who

831
00:52:06,679 --> 00:52:11,079
was a Royal Air Force volunteer Reserve and he flew

832
00:52:11,159 --> 00:52:14,679
at Vickers Wellington eighty six to eight and it actually

833
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,880
collided with an Ex nineteen ninety four, the same unit.

834
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,199
It struck a hangar and burst into flames. Now we're

835
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,360
right at the bottom of that information because I'm thinking,

836
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,679
oh God bless him, you know, I kind of the

837
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,760
wonder if he had crew with him. And there was

838
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,119
a one name right at the bottom, and it was

839
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:40,000
Sergeant William Tate Cuthbertson of the Royal Australian Air Force.

840
00:52:40,519 --> 00:52:42,360
And that blew me away because first of all, we've

841
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,719
got a William. Secondly we've got the Australian Air Force

842
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:50,480
in we had picked up months and months ago. Yeah,

843
00:52:50,679 --> 00:52:52,960
which was just crazy to me. And it was came

844
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,400
from the most unexpected place of being, coming through Saint

845
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,880
Mary's in Rumwell. It just blew my mind a little bit.

846
00:53:02,039 --> 00:53:07,480
And the panic survivor as well. In the churchyard he's

847
00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:12,079
under Edwis Ryerson. So I just have a look into

848
00:53:12,159 --> 00:53:17,719
that and his name is William Edwards Ryerson and I

849
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,320
was just like, here's another William, right, So at this

850
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,079
point I did start googling Williams of the sill Yard

851
00:53:23,159 --> 00:53:25,199
family and This is where I got a little confused,

852
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,639
so we're leaving that to one side.

853
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,519
Speaker 3: But he was born in.

854
00:53:29,639 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: Eighteen seventy eight. He served in the British Army in

855
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,960
the Bober War, was awarded the Queen's Medal with two clasps.

856
00:53:36,519 --> 00:53:38,480
He was actually a second class steward on the ill

857
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:43,000
fated Titanic, right, but he was actually assigned a lifeboat,

858
00:53:43,559 --> 00:53:46,840
and it was his lifeboat was the number nine. And

859
00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:51,960
nine is really key when you read Andrew Collins's account

860
00:53:52,559 --> 00:54:01,039
about the sacred of Well nine, it's like, and that's

861
00:54:01,079 --> 00:54:03,480
the only reason he got off the Titanic, because that

862
00:54:03,639 --> 00:54:06,400
was like his assigned boat. There were because if you

863
00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:09,880
think about it, only thirteen was actually launched from the Titanic.

864
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:11,599
He lived.

865
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 3: Quite a full life, really, you know.

866
00:54:18,039 --> 00:54:22,119
Speaker 2: He came over, did it?

867
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 4: Did?

868
00:54:23,039 --> 00:54:23,159
Speaker 3: Now?

869
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 1: What was really weird for him when he's on the

870
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,920
Titanic was there were distant members of his own family

871
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,880
on that on the boat as well, that's right, and

872
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,760
he didn't even know that they were on the boat. Now,

873
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,119
after this, he served in the First World War. They

874
00:54:38,199 --> 00:54:42,440
think he served in the Song and basically he ended

875
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:45,360
as a warrant Officer class with the Royal Artillery Regiment,

876
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,840
and he ended up having a quieter end to his

877
00:54:50,039 --> 00:54:54,880
life living in Runwell. But how fascinating again A William

878
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,039
pops up and all of these things, and it just

879
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:02,159
blew my mind. On this particular night, it just blew

880
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,480
my mind because that colide scope collided yet again. But

881
00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:08,280
we've only half clicked it as it well, we're not

882
00:55:08,639 --> 00:55:13,239
quite clicked in yet. But is it fascinating her spirit work?

883
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 4: Well? I know, well, I love how spirit work. Obviously,

884
00:55:18,599 --> 00:55:21,719
my faith and trust in them have always been dead,

885
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:26,239
and it just gets stronger and stronger for me. The

886
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:31,280
difficulty eats. I don't expect people to be open as

887
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,840
I am, but when people are not so open and resisting,

888
00:55:36,679 --> 00:55:40,280
and it makes harder for them to actually share the magic.

889
00:55:41,199 --> 00:55:43,239
So but now that you guys are getting more and

890
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,679
more open and starting to get more and more how

891
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:50,000
I rework in our little crazy way, and your guys

892
00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:53,760
are putting things together, It's getting really exciting and I

893
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,559
just cannot wait for more and more of these to come.

894
00:55:58,199 --> 00:55:59,920
So I carry on an opening guys.

895
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:05,599
Speaker 1: What I will say is we always enter churches and

896
00:56:05,679 --> 00:56:10,960
graveyards with the utmost respect for the theology for the community,

897
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:16,159
for the estuds that are in the ground there, and

898
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,199
I urge everybody to do the same whenever they're out

899
00:56:19,199 --> 00:56:22,079
and about these churches. And I'm hoping you should. It

900
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:24,880
should be a no brainer, right, guys, should be brain.

901
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:33,559
Speaker 4: Yet people people still got to learn respect because the

902
00:56:33,639 --> 00:56:37,960
respect concept is very misunderstood. But one thing I would

903
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,719
definitely say, everything we say and do no in the

904
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,960
intention that we are doing, it will come back to us.

905
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:47,920
So if you think you're going to have a party

906
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,800
and the graveyards, trust me, you will not be alone.

907
00:56:55,159 --> 00:56:59,599
Speaker 2: With you guys, I think, uh, you know. And we've

908
00:56:59,679 --> 00:57:00,639
met people as well.

909
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 3: I mean not a lot of people, but the people

910
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,079
we've interacted with, you know, visiting the churches, going to

911
00:57:07,159 --> 00:57:10,960
the services, they've always been very eyeing, very open, you know.

912
00:57:11,519 --> 00:57:16,039
Speaker 2: We've always been felt welcome, and you can't felt that

913
00:57:16,239 --> 00:57:18,599
well no, Well, I.

914
00:57:18,679 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: Thought community spirit was dead, you know, like living the

915
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,039
life before you know, the spiritual journey. I thought community

916
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:30,039
spirit was dead and bury it kind of like forget it.

917
00:57:30,119 --> 00:57:32,320
You're fighting for your own survival kind of on your

918
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,519
own kind of vibe. And this is far from the truth,

919
00:57:35,559 --> 00:57:39,440
and it's only a scratch beneath the surface. Now we're

920
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:44,599
not here, you know, like to advocate Bible, you know,

921
00:57:44,719 --> 00:57:48,199
studies and stuff like that. But the theology is fascinating

922
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:54,400
and helps you reflect within yourself for understanding and awakening

923
00:57:54,639 --> 00:57:57,719
and the messages that are coming through from that theology,

924
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,199
which is very comfortable for me because I'm seeing E

925
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,519
and my Lane is quite comfortable because she's Catholic, so

926
00:58:03,559 --> 00:58:06,159
it's very similar, and Richard is very c of E,

927
00:58:06,559 --> 00:58:11,159
and as is our Darryl, you know, so within that,

928
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:16,239
they're allowing us to explore our spirituality within a theology

929
00:58:16,519 --> 00:58:21,039
framework that we're really comfortable with, and those messages of

930
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,639
what they're telling us when we're in that space is

931
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,719
incredibly I just honestly, I get mind blown on a

932
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,920
regular basis of how all the threads come together in

933
00:58:33,039 --> 00:58:37,119
one space. It's phenomenal. Anyway, That's where we're up to

934
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:42,039
with Saint Mary's in run Well, but the story doesn't

935
00:58:42,159 --> 00:58:45,320
just end there. You are going to have to join

936
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,639
us for episode three to find out the next threads

937
00:58:49,679 --> 00:58:52,800
and adventures that we've been psychically led on and what

938
00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:57,840
transpired when we into the environment. Thank you so much

939
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,960
for listening guys. Last words for you, Malina.

940
00:59:03,159 --> 00:59:05,599
Speaker 4: Well, thank you for listening to us, thank you for

941
00:59:05,719 --> 00:59:09,119
your time. If you're adding a light, carve you on

942
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,400
in the light. If you are not, pray, pray hard.

943
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:16,639
Prayers will take you to beautiful places. And don't think

944
00:59:16,679 --> 00:59:19,480
you're being silly, because you're not being silly. We need

945
00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:23,480
more than that. Have a wonderful time until we meet again.

946
00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:24,480
God bless you all.

947
00:59:25,519 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 3: And for myself, perseverance does count. It does count in

948
00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:32,800
this sort of environment. You know, when you start off,

949
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,519
you know, don't well for me, you know, I don't

950
00:59:36,599 --> 00:59:39,519
expect to get it all at once, But if you

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persevere it, things will fall into place. And I will

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leave that with the listeners.

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Speaker 1: And all I'm gonna say is I have the episode.

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We'll see you very soon.

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