Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
where we left off with the Mark Epstein interview with
the OIG Inspectors redacted. Now, as far as the person
that he were, you saying that he spoke with someone
on the telephone prior to August ninth or tenth, Epstein
the night redacted or something Epstein the evening before he died,
because it was indiscernible, Yeah, redacted. And was that a
female Epstein? Yes, it was. Question and do you want
to say the name and ask if that's correct? Redacted?
Is the name redacted? Epstein? Yes? Question? Is that who
he spoke to? Epstein? Yes? Question? And you spoke to
who is redacted to? Mister Epstein? Epstein a friend redacted,
a childhood friend, a longtime friend Epstein a number of
years redacted? Were they in a relationship, mister Epstein? His
exact nature of it, I don't know, because because I
didn't know her, but I know she's been I just
found out she was in the picture for a number
of years, I believe eight years redacted in a romantic
relationship Epstein, I believe, so, Yeah, Richmond what you didn't know? Confirmation, Apstein.
I can't ask jeff Richmond, right obviously, redacted. Have you
spoken with her? Epstein, yes? Question And did she say
that they were in a relationship? Epstein, Yeah, question she did? Abstein.
I believe it to be so, and I found pictures redacted?
And have you seen have you spoken with her since
August ninth, twenty nineteen, Abstein, yep redacted. Did she tell
you what the conversation took place during indiscernible Epstein? He
said he sounded upbeat and that she didn't think he
committed suicide. It didn't sound like he was doing that. Redacted.
But did she say anything that they talked about though, Epstein, No.
I didn't want to get too personal, and you KNOWE
at the time, it was like, you know, my brother
is dead. I indiscernible conversation that I need to know,
you know? Redacted? When did you speak with her? Epstein?
A number of times since then? Redacted? Okay, But when
specifically you talked about the conversation that she had with
Jeffrey indiscernible Epstein. I don't remember the exact date, but
I think it was just a few weeks of the
death redacted. Okay, but she didn't tell you anything specifically
about why he contacted her or what they spoke about. Epstein,
no question, no, just that he sounded up beat Epstein.
Yeah he was. Yeah, that's like she made indiscernible redacted.
Was she surprised that he called her? Epstein? I don't know,
to be honest with you, I didn't ask her that much.
She didn't say, oh shit. Yeah. I didn't get any
kind of reaction from her. Redacted. All right. Do you
know if Jeffrey changed his will leading up to August ninth? Epstein.
I was told he changed will. He did. Now, traditionally,
my brother and I were not in each other's wills
because I don't need his money, he don't need my money,
so he changed the will. From my understanding, now, I'm
not the executive of his estate. That has nothing to
do with his estate. The executives don't even talk to
me or anything. But from what I understand, all of
his assets were put into a trust, or they were
supposed to be put into a trust after Jeffrey died,
and they paid out all the money to the victims
and is redacted. And the trust dictates what happens to
his money. I'm not the trustee and I'm not privy
to his trust redacted. Who did you hear it from
that he put it in his will? He changed his will,
Epstein while it was public knowledge. Yeah, and his attorneys
also told me that he changed his will. But this
is in the paper. This was indiscernible, and he was
trying to use that as well. He was contemplating suicide.
I think maybe he was contemplating being killed in prison
and wanted to make sure that his will was up
to date. I don't think it was fear. I don't
think it was fear of suicide. I think, you know,
I don't think he was planning suicide. I think anything
he was indiscernible about being in prison indiscernible stories redacted.
And do you know anything about him like being placed
on suicide watch and taken off? Do you know anything, Epstein. Yeah,
he was placed on suicide watch and he was taken
off exactly the reasons. I don't know. They never told
me redacted. Do you know if anyone from outside, such
as his attorneys or anybody like that, called anyone to
ask him to be taken off suicide watch? Epstein, only
what the paper said, So I don't have any first
hand knowledge of it, redacted, And you've never gotten to
speak with his attorneys. They never disclosed the information. Epstein,
not very much, no question, Okay, So just the papers.
Other than having that conversation with indiscernible, have you spoken
with anyone on the outside Epstein, No question, right, Epstein. Oh,
so David Shoon, the attorney who was going to go
ask me because he also said that indiscernible suicide. Yeah,
I was surprised because he felt he said, Jeff felt
positive about the defense. They were going to go with,
you know, in the prosecution redacted, and David Shon met
them on Friday. Epstein. Excuse me, redacted. You mentioned David
Shon met with them on Friday. Epstein. No, no, no, no,
David Shoon had met with him in jail, I think
before he died, not the day. I think it was
before redacted. You mentioned something about a non prosecution from Florida.
Can you explain that, Epstein? Yeah, in two thousand and six.
I think it was when he first got in trouble
in Florida. You know, when he got back whatever he
got his sweetheart deal which I was told he got
a sweetheart deal because the girls that were planning to
be victims were actually determined to be very unreliable witnesses
because they found their Facebook pages with drugs and sex,
and one of the girls was a prostitute and a mother.
You know, all kinds of these are not clean cut,
little Catholic school girls, you know. So he got made
the deal back in two thousand and six, and part
of the deal was he had to sign the prosecution
agreement for him and the other unnamed individuals, and that's
what he was living on ever since. You know, just
there was this note. From what I understand, I haven't
seen any evidence that he was with underage women at
that point in time, like get out of jail and
then you know, thirteen months. Never see that he got
a house. You know, he got a good deal after that.
I mean we used to There's a joke, you know,
and I told him, you know, I'm his brother, and
said some passports scare him. So a girl comes in
wants to show him that she's in the estate team.
You know, we're joking around. So and as far as
I know, there have been no claims of him being
with underage women and all the stuff that he will.
I don't think it it's the case. But yes, redacted,
you mentioned the non prosecution agreement as the fact that
he believed he was getting out of prison. Epstein. No, No,
he got out of prison. He served his time and
he was sentenced too. But at the time, and this
is public, he had a non prosecution agreement with the
federal government, you know, the same one that was with
the Southern District or whatever what Florida park Or. I
don't know. They like the lingo. I don't get in trouble,
so I'm not up on the indiscernible As far as
I know. This one is federal government Epstein. And if
you make a deal in the non prosecution agreement with
the federal government, well that's the federal government. It's not
like the New York people. Federal here have the right
to indiscernible Greenland Epstein. So was it why was it
your SD? You know? Another theory about that, okay, is
that in the screen before he was arrested, one of
the victims went to the FBI and said that she
was in his house. It was down on First Street,
and he had this expensive camera system and boom boom boom,
Now go to the bathroom. All this kinds of stuff. Now,
the one thing about Jeffrey is that Jeffrey was a bullshitter.
He would say things just to be provocative. Now, he
had an extensive video room when we first walk into
the house on the right, because I was there years
ago with lots of monitors, but they were all on
the outside of the building for security, and inside the
front door and inside the back door. There wasn't cameras
throughout the house. And I've spoken with people who knew
the house, people who worked at the house, and they
like said, that extensive video system that house didn't exist.
But the FBI got this information that it did. And
then a few months later he gets arrested and they
break into his house with a search warrant. And I
would like to see that search warrant. That is what
because in the search warrant you have to state what
you're looking for, right, you can't just use it as
a fishing trip. So what is it that they were
looking for? Because they broke into his house and they
cut the safe open. But you heard that he had
about seventy thousand in cash and diamonds. Well, he's a
very wealthy man. He does not have cash and diamonds,
you know. And he had some expired old passport for
some indiscernible long story for that. But what were they
looking for or who wasn'tdiscernible to get into this house
to look for? Who are they looking for? And are
they looking for the tapes of somebody on the street.
They had some tapes they're not exist which didn't exist.
And then he was arrested. And you know, it's cool
And like I said, he set you up as a crook.
I said, he has enough word on both gang weights
to have the election canceled in two thousand and six.
This doesn't alleviate if you forget everything else, everything I
showed you here and everything you know. Now, would you
just say yes, it was a suicide. I wouldn't, and
not because like I said, not because I'm his brother.
It just doesn't add up to a suicide. Like I said,
And trust me, if he committed suicide, my life would
have been a lot easier. This time. I've had death threats.
I've been in touch with the FBI and NYPD for
those two years, and I have hired arm guards for that.
When I met with Steve Bannon after I saw the
tape that my brother sent to me after his death,
I contacted Steve Bannon and I'm in the discernible what's
this about? You know? And I know that Bannon I
actually had a indiscernible. I didn't because I didn't know
who was indiscernible. I knew him walking to a hotel
and be talked taking out the garbage like show, you know,
and armed guards. And Bannon told me about the sixteen
hours of tape, and he told me he said that
the tape should protect him and that the attorney client
privilege as witness preparation. But Bannon is not an attorney redacted?
And which tapes were we talking about right now? Epstein?
The sixteen hours of videotape interview that indiscernible with my
brother redacted. Off of what we've talked about at least
thus far, who do you think we should speak with
that would have the firsthand knowledge that would be willing
to speak with us? Epstein? Well, I think you should
talk to the guards, the EMT guards, and I think
it's redacted or something redacted. Those are the two EMT guards. Epstein,
find out from them who was directing the operation in
the prison. Why did they move the body out when
they weren't supposed to move the body out? Who was
directing them to do that? Who was there? Redacted? Okay Epstein?
And then in the hospital when he was there, I mean,
I don't know, to the fire department, guys, where are
body cameras? EMTs? I don't know, you know, But in
like I said, there was a handful of cameras in
the hospital when they took them. There were four people there,
two EMTs and two other people, and someone would have
had a video camera of that. And why did they
dress them in a hospital gown? Redacted? Okay Epstein? You know,
why are they trying to make him look like Bannon
told me, there's a prison culture here. Nobody dies in prison,
you know. They find a dead body, they ship them
to the hospital, and it's declared dead in the hospital.
That's traditional in the prison system because they don't want
to deal with the dead body in prison. And that
seems to be indiscernible as well. But what are they
trying to, you know, to take him out, trying to
innovate them. These guys are trained. Yeah, now, they know
he's not coming back redacted. Yeah, Epstein, So why the charad?
And why are we in here? There was a camera
guy there right who took the photographs. You got people
questioning how did he know to be there? Why was
he there by the prison early that morning to take
photographs and indiscernible, no doubt redacted. Which camera guy are
you talking about, Richmond the guy that had indiscernible poster? Epstein? Yeah,
I knew his name redacted. I believe it was redacted.
He was at the hospital or he was at the prison.
Epstein at the prison redacted? Okay, redacted When mister Epstein
was being rolled out Epstein. Yeah, he's on the gurney
and he's covered in a sheet. They have a neck
brace on him. He's innovated. They have a thing down
his throat and that squeezing one of those the a
balloons to try to get air into his lungs. Yeah,
which use on like drowning victim and indiscernible. So I
was like, why, you know, why the charade? And also
from the time they got there they took him down,
there's no pulse. Obviously he's not breathing. You know, the
body can only last a few minutes under that condition.
They got up there, he was found dead, and you
know they do whatever they do in there. They cut
them open. They tried to defibrillate them, right, because that's
the thing on the other picture, the defibrillator angle. And
there's electric cord in the room because he slept with
the cepat machine, which I didn't know he used one,
but turns out he did. And he was in the
room with his electric cord, you know, and in the photographs.
Let me see if I can find this photo here redacted?
Why are you looking that up? I know you might
have answered this. Did you have any communication with them
when he was in prison? Epstein no, redacted. Did he
email you or call you? Epstein no, redacted anything like that, Epstein, nope, redacted.
What about any other family redacted? As redacted said, did
he contact anybody? Epstein? No, there's no one in the
family redacted, So you don't know anybody aside from his
attorneys who spoke to indiscernible on a night or spoke
to indiscernible Epstein no, redacted. He spoke with you, Epstein.
I sent him a letter in prison. I have no
idea if you ever got it redacted. In terms of
other siblings, you were his only sibling, Epstein, yeah, redacted.
The parents Epstein deceased Epstein. My father died in ninety one,
thirty years ago, and my mother died in two thousand
and four. Epstein two thousand and four. Yeah, they were older.
It was right around when Jeff first got in trouble
in two thousand and six. He called me and asked
me if I'm at his house, which is you know,
like after my mother died, I moved back because most
of our communication, it seems Jeff was rather indiscernible health
issues and being close to the family. Like he called
me to his house because he wanted to tell me
himself that he was getting in trouble, you know, for indiscernible.
And the first thing I said to him, I said, well, indiscernible,
mom's dead. It's looking like they're about to kill her.
Indiscernible some issues, So redacted, how long did you take care?
So you said that you had ghosted a large part
of indiscernible, And how much do you indiscernible Epstein, You
can hold whatever his bell was redacted and cut off. Epstein. Well,
his bell. His bell itself was one hundred plus million
somewhere in that. I don't know the exact number, but
whatever it was, I paid them redacted. Yeah, okay, all right, folks,
we're gonna wrap up right here, and in the next episode,
we're gonna pick up where we left off. All the
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