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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up

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where we left off with the Mark Epstein interview with

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the OIG Inspectors redacted. Now, as far as the person

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that he were, you saying that he spoke with someone

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on the telephone prior to August ninth or tenth, Epstein

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the night redacted or something Epstein the evening before he died,

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because it was indiscernible, Yeah, redacted. And was that a

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female Epstein? Yes, it was. Question and do you want

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to say the name and ask if that's correct? Redacted?

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Is the name redacted? Epstein? Yes? Question? Is that who

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he spoke to? Epstein? Yes? Question? And you spoke to

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who is redacted to? Mister Epstein? Epstein a friend redacted,

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a childhood friend, a longtime friend Epstein a number of

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years redacted? Were they in a relationship, mister Epstein? His

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exact nature of it, I don't know, because because I

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didn't know her, but I know she's been I just

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found out she was in the picture for a number

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of years, I believe eight years redacted in a romantic

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relationship Epstein, I believe, so, Yeah, Richmond what you didn't know? Confirmation, Apstein.

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I can't ask jeff Richmond, right obviously, redacted. Have you

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spoken with her? Epstein, yes? Question And did she say

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that they were in a relationship? Epstein, Yeah, question she did? Abstein.

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I believe it to be so, and I found pictures redacted?

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And have you seen have you spoken with her since

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August ninth, twenty nineteen, Abstein, yep redacted. Did she tell

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you what the conversation took place during indiscernible Epstein? He

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said he sounded upbeat and that she didn't think he

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committed suicide. It didn't sound like he was doing that. Redacted.

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But did she say anything that they talked about though, Epstein, No.

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I didn't want to get too personal, and you KNOWE

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at the time, it was like, you know, my brother

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is dead. I indiscernible conversation that I need to know,

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you know? Redacted? When did you speak with her? Epstein?

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A number of times since then? Redacted? Okay, But when

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specifically you talked about the conversation that she had with

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Jeffrey indiscernible Epstein. I don't remember the exact date, but

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I think it was just a few weeks of the

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death redacted. Okay, but she didn't tell you anything specifically

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about why he contacted her or what they spoke about. Epstein,

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no question, no, just that he sounded up beat Epstein.

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Yeah he was. Yeah, that's like she made indiscernible redacted.

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Was she surprised that he called her? Epstein? I don't know,

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to be honest with you, I didn't ask her that much.

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She didn't say, oh shit. Yeah. I didn't get any

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kind of reaction from her. Redacted. All right. Do you

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know if Jeffrey changed his will leading up to August ninth? Epstein.

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I was told he changed will. He did. Now, traditionally,

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my brother and I were not in each other's wills

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because I don't need his money, he don't need my money,

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so he changed the will. From my understanding, now, I'm

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not the executive of his estate. That has nothing to

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do with his estate. The executives don't even talk to

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me or anything. But from what I understand, all of

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his assets were put into a trust, or they were

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supposed to be put into a trust after Jeffrey died,

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and they paid out all the money to the victims

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and is redacted. And the trust dictates what happens to

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his money. I'm not the trustee and I'm not privy

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to his trust redacted. Who did you hear it from

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that he put it in his will? He changed his will,

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Epstein while it was public knowledge. Yeah, and his attorneys

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also told me that he changed his will. But this

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is in the paper. This was indiscernible, and he was

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trying to use that as well. He was contemplating suicide.

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I think maybe he was contemplating being killed in prison

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and wanted to make sure that his will was up

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to date. I don't think it was fear. I don't

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think it was fear of suicide. I think, you know,

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I don't think he was planning suicide. I think anything

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he was indiscernible about being in prison indiscernible stories redacted.

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And do you know anything about him like being placed

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on suicide watch and taken off? Do you know anything, Epstein. Yeah,

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he was placed on suicide watch and he was taken

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off exactly the reasons. I don't know. They never told

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me redacted. Do you know if anyone from outside, such

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as his attorneys or anybody like that, called anyone to

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ask him to be taken off suicide watch? Epstein, only

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what the paper said, So I don't have any first

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hand knowledge of it, redacted, And you've never gotten to

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speak with his attorneys. They never disclosed the information. Epstein,

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not very much, no question, Okay, So just the papers.

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Other than having that conversation with indiscernible, have you spoken

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with anyone on the outside Epstein, No question, right, Epstein. Oh,

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so David Shoon, the attorney who was going to go

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ask me because he also said that indiscernible suicide. Yeah,

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I was surprised because he felt he said, Jeff felt

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positive about the defense. They were going to go with,

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you know, in the prosecution redacted, and David Shon met

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them on Friday. Epstein. Excuse me, redacted. You mentioned David

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Shon met with them on Friday. Epstein. No, no, no, no,

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David Shoon had met with him in jail, I think

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before he died, not the day. I think it was

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before redacted. You mentioned something about a non prosecution from Florida.

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Can you explain that, Epstein? Yeah, in two thousand and six.

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I think it was when he first got in trouble

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in Florida. You know, when he got back whatever he

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got his sweetheart deal which I was told he got

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a sweetheart deal because the girls that were planning to

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be victims were actually determined to be very unreliable witnesses

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because they found their Facebook pages with drugs and sex,

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and one of the girls was a prostitute and a mother.

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You know, all kinds of these are not clean cut,

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little Catholic school girls, you know. So he got made

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the deal back in two thousand and six, and part

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of the deal was he had to sign the prosecution

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agreement for him and the other unnamed individuals, and that's

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what he was living on ever since. You know, just

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there was this note. From what I understand, I haven't

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seen any evidence that he was with underage women at

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that point in time, like get out of jail and

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then you know, thirteen months. Never see that he got

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a house. You know, he got a good deal after that.

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I mean we used to There's a joke, you know,

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and I told him, you know, I'm his brother, and

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said some passports scare him. So a girl comes in

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wants to show him that she's in the estate team.

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You know, we're joking around. So and as far as

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I know, there have been no claims of him being

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with underage women and all the stuff that he will.

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I don't think it it's the case. But yes, redacted,

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you mentioned the non prosecution agreement as the fact that

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he believed he was getting out of prison. Epstein. No, No,

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he got out of prison. He served his time and

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he was sentenced too. But at the time, and this

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is public, he had a non prosecution agreement with the

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federal government, you know, the same one that was with

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the Southern District or whatever what Florida park Or. I

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don't know. They like the lingo. I don't get in trouble,

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so I'm not up on the indiscernible As far as

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I know. This one is federal government Epstein. And if

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you make a deal in the non prosecution agreement with

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the federal government, well that's the federal government. It's not

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like the New York people. Federal here have the right

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to indiscernible Greenland Epstein. So was it why was it

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your SD? You know? Another theory about that, okay, is

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that in the screen before he was arrested, one of

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the victims went to the FBI and said that she

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was in his house. It was down on First Street,

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and he had this expensive camera system and boom boom boom,

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Now go to the bathroom. All this kinds of stuff. Now,

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the one thing about Jeffrey is that Jeffrey was a bullshitter.

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He would say things just to be provocative. Now, he

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had an extensive video room when we first walk into

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the house on the right, because I was there years

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ago with lots of monitors, but they were all on

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the outside of the building for security, and inside the

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front door and inside the back door. There wasn't cameras

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throughout the house. And I've spoken with people who knew

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the house, people who worked at the house, and they

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like said, that extensive video system that house didn't exist.

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But the FBI got this information that it did. And

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then a few months later he gets arrested and they

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break into his house with a search warrant. And I

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would like to see that search warrant. That is what

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because in the search warrant you have to state what

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you're looking for, right, you can't just use it as

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a fishing trip. So what is it that they were

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looking for? Because they broke into his house and they

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cut the safe open. But you heard that he had

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about seventy thousand in cash and diamonds. Well, he's a

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very wealthy man. He does not have cash and diamonds,

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you know. And he had some expired old passport for

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some indiscernible long story for that. But what were they

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looking for or who wasn'tdiscernible to get into this house

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to look for? Who are they looking for? And are

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they looking for the tapes of somebody on the street.

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They had some tapes they're not exist which didn't exist.

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And then he was arrested. And you know, it's cool

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And like I said, he set you up as a crook.

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I said, he has enough word on both gang weights

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to have the election canceled in two thousand and six.

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This doesn't alleviate if you forget everything else, everything I

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showed you here and everything you know. Now, would you

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just say yes, it was a suicide. I wouldn't, and

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not because like I said, not because I'm his brother.

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It just doesn't add up to a suicide. Like I said,

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And trust me, if he committed suicide, my life would

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have been a lot easier. This time. I've had death threats.

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I've been in touch with the FBI and NYPD for

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those two years, and I have hired arm guards for that.

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When I met with Steve Bannon after I saw the

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tape that my brother sent to me after his death,

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I contacted Steve Bannon and I'm in the discernible what's

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this about? You know? And I know that Bannon I

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actually had a indiscernible. I didn't because I didn't know

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who was indiscernible. I knew him walking to a hotel

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and be talked taking out the garbage like show, you know,

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and armed guards. And Bannon told me about the sixteen

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hours of tape, and he told me he said that

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the tape should protect him and that the attorney client

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privilege as witness preparation. But Bannon is not an attorney redacted?

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And which tapes were we talking about right now? Epstein?

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The sixteen hours of videotape interview that indiscernible with my

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brother redacted. Off of what we've talked about at least

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thus far, who do you think we should speak with

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that would have the firsthand knowledge that would be willing

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to speak with us? Epstein? Well, I think you should

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talk to the guards, the EMT guards, and I think

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it's redacted or something redacted. Those are the two EMT guards. Epstein,

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find out from them who was directing the operation in

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the prison. Why did they move the body out when

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they weren't supposed to move the body out? Who was

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directing them to do that? Who was there? Redacted? Okay Epstein?

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And then in the hospital when he was there, I mean,

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I don't know, to the fire department, guys, where are

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body cameras? EMTs? I don't know, you know, But in

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like I said, there was a handful of cameras in

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the hospital when they took them. There were four people there,

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two EMTs and two other people, and someone would have

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had a video camera of that. And why did they

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dress them in a hospital gown? Redacted? Okay Epstein? You know,

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why are they trying to make him look like Bannon

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told me, there's a prison culture here. Nobody dies in prison,

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you know. They find a dead body, they ship them

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to the hospital, and it's declared dead in the hospital.

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That's traditional in the prison system because they don't want

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to deal with the dead body in prison. And that

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seems to be indiscernible as well. But what are they

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trying to, you know, to take him out, trying to

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innovate them. These guys are trained. Yeah, now, they know

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he's not coming back redacted. Yeah, Epstein, So why the charad?

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And why are we in here? There was a camera

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guy there right who took the photographs. You got people

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questioning how did he know to be there? Why was

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he there by the prison early that morning to take

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photographs and indiscernible, no doubt redacted. Which camera guy are

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you talking about, Richmond the guy that had indiscernible poster? Epstein? Yeah,

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I knew his name redacted. I believe it was redacted.

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He was at the hospital or he was at the prison.

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Epstein at the prison redacted? Okay, redacted When mister Epstein

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was being rolled out Epstein. Yeah, he's on the gurney

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and he's covered in a sheet. They have a neck

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brace on him. He's innovated. They have a thing down

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his throat and that squeezing one of those the a

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balloons to try to get air into his lungs. Yeah,

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which use on like drowning victim and indiscernible. So I

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was like, why, you know, why the charade? And also

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from the time they got there they took him down,

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there's no pulse. Obviously he's not breathing. You know, the

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body can only last a few minutes under that condition.

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They got up there, he was found dead, and you

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know they do whatever they do in there. They cut

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them open. They tried to defibrillate them, right, because that's

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the thing on the other picture, the defibrillator angle. And

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there's electric cord in the room because he slept with

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the cepat machine, which I didn't know he used one,

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but turns out he did. And he was in the

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room with his electric cord, you know, and in the photographs.

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Let me see if I can find this photo here redacted?

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Why are you looking that up? I know you might

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have answered this. Did you have any communication with them

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when he was in prison? Epstein no, redacted. Did he

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email you or call you? Epstein no, redacted anything like that, Epstein, nope, redacted.

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What about any other family redacted? As redacted said, did

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he contact anybody? Epstein? No, there's no one in the

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family redacted, So you don't know anybody aside from his

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attorneys who spoke to indiscernible on a night or spoke

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to indiscernible Epstein no, redacted. He spoke with you, Epstein.

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I sent him a letter in prison. I have no

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idea if you ever got it redacted. In terms of

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other siblings, you were his only sibling, Epstein, yeah, redacted.

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The parents Epstein deceased Epstein. My father died in ninety one,

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thirty years ago, and my mother died in two thousand

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and four. Epstein two thousand and four. Yeah, they were older.

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It was right around when Jeff first got in trouble

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in two thousand and six. He called me and asked

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me if I'm at his house, which is you know,

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like after my mother died, I moved back because most

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of our communication, it seems Jeff was rather indiscernible health

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issues and being close to the family. Like he called

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me to his house because he wanted to tell me

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himself that he was getting in trouble, you know, for indiscernible.

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And the first thing I said to him, I said, well, indiscernible,

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mom's dead. It's looking like they're about to kill her.

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Indiscernible some issues, So redacted, how long did you take care?

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So you said that you had ghosted a large part

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of indiscernible, And how much do you indiscernible Epstein, You

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can hold whatever his bell was redacted and cut off. Epstein. Well,

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his bell. His bell itself was one hundred plus million

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somewhere in that. I don't know the exact number, but

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whatever it was, I paid them redacted. Yeah, okay, all right, folks,

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