WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:10.839 Hey, everybody, welcome to Game Yes Mornings with Me Jeff Grub, 2 00:00:10.880 --> 00:00:13.199 your host from giant bomb dot com. 3 00:00:13.279 --> 00:00:14.919 Thank you for tuning in. 4 00:00:14.919 --> 00:00:17.160 In this episode, we're gonna be talking about our return 5 00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:19.559 from Summer game Fest and what do we make of 6 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:22.519 that Nintendo direct. It's gonna be a good one because 7 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:23.839 we have Lex Luddy on the show. 8 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:26.079 LEXI, how are you doing well? 9 00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:28.640 But I'm not doing too bad. How are you doing? 10 00:00:28.760 --> 00:00:32.399 You seem like you were very busy and then using 11 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:34.479 to Disney and now you're back. 12 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:36.600 Yep. Yeah, it was it was good. It was nice 13 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:38.479 to hang out at Disney for a day, although very 14 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:41.719 exhausting in its own way. We did open to close 15 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:44.799 because because Mike Manatti made us, but it was working. 16 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:48.960 Yeah, we. 17 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:53.439 All did keep making jokes like it's like, you know, 18 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:56.640 he was the most morning person we've ever seen only 19 00:00:56.679 --> 00:00:57.280 at Disney. 20 00:00:57.479 --> 00:00:59.640 Outside of Disney, that would not have been the case. 21 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:02.640 And that you know, as everyone else was beginning to lag, 22 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:05.319 he still had the most energy. And then like the 23 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:08.480 second we got out of outside the confines of Disney, 24 00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:11.120 you could see him powering down. It was it was 25 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:13.640 amazing to witness. So, no, it was a great time. 26 00:01:13.920 --> 00:01:17.400 Summer Game Fest was a good time. Everyone was really 27 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:21.000 great to see a lot of cool games that mostly 28 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:22.799 we can't talk about still. I think some of those 29 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:25.840 are starting those some of those embargoes are starting to lift, 30 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:28.719 but there's still several that will be in July. So 31 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:31.159 we'll be talking about games from Summer Game Fest for 32 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:33.239 a long time. Or maybe we won't, maybe we'll forget. 33 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:36.599 Who knows, we'll see, but yeah, how are you doing? 34 00:01:36.599 --> 00:01:37.359 How was it from home? 35 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:40.920 It was an interesting show. I think it was a 36 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:43.560 bit more. It was definitely more subdued this year because 37 00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:51.760 pretty much everything was expected. Almost everything big that came 38 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:53.719 out at any of these shows we had at least 39 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:55.799 some knowledge of. And maybe that's just because I'm too 40 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:58.480 tuned in and I'm, you know, too aware of all 41 00:01:58.519 --> 00:02:02.200 these different things. But the was very little, you know, 42 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:05.079 even the direct and the state of play felt like 43 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:08.240 a lot of known quantities. Honestly, the show I enjoyed 44 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:10.639 the most this year was Day of the Devs, which 45 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:14.080 I enjoyed most almost every year. But I'd also seen 46 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:16.879 that like a week beforehand, so I was like, well, 47 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:20.240 I've already seen this, but I'll watch it again. So yeah, 48 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:24.800 it was it was an okay show, you guys. I 49 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:27.680 enjoyed more so you guys doing your at night stuff 50 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:30.719 and seeing those interviews and getting a vibe for how 51 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:34.120 it was on the ground. I'm curious, what was it like, 52 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:37.400 you know, makeup of people who were attending there? Was 53 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:40.759 it very American focus this year, because that was kind 54 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:44.319 of the vibe I was getting. Was mostly mostly people 55 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:47.080 on and I think that's probably why so many of 56 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:49.599 the embargoes are being pushed out, is they want to 57 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:53.719 have they want to have more events for people who 58 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:56.159 weren't going to travel for SGF this year. 59 00:02:56.719 --> 00:02:57.879 That's definitely the case. 60 00:02:57.960 --> 00:03:01.120 Yeah, yeah, it was, you know, I it's not one 61 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:07.080 American comprised, but yeah, there was probably fewer. I guess 62 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:09.520 I was still surprised enough people were from out of 63 00:03:09.520 --> 00:03:12.439 the country, but that was probably just a confirmation bias 64 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:14.800 where where I was looking for and noticing. 65 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:16.479 Like, oh they're they're here, Okay, cool. 66 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:20.639 Uh, But yeah, it was it was mostly the same 67 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:22.919 old people, right, That's that's kind of the thing here 68 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:25.520 is Uh, it is the people that you would expect 69 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:28.879 to be there, and maybe a couple of influencers, a 70 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:34.800 couple of young younger people covering stuff I talked to. Yes, yeah, yes, yeah. 71 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:38.280 I sent one young person that I'm doing my exactly. 72 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:40.759 That's exactly how it is, right. It's like, yeah, well, 73 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:44.879 not enough to suddenly change the ratio or anything, but 74 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:47.080 there are those people out there doing that work, and 75 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:49.000 we were trying to trying to get them to come 76 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:51.280 hang out a giant bomb and uh, you know, give 77 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:53.439 them their their flowers a little bit and get them 78 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:54.199 noticed or whatever. 79 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:58.879 But he did great at his first show, so very 80 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:00.400 very happy he got to meet folks. 81 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:03.120 Yes, absolutely that you know that. For us, the best 82 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:06.439 part was the couches and having everyone come hang out 83 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:09.639 with us at our little get together, a little shindig 84 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:12.639 the green room. It's nice to go out there and 85 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:15.840 see so many people being looking relieved, just to be 86 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:18.000 around so many people that get them and get their job. 87 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:22.399 And it's not about I don't know, it's not about whatever. 88 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:24.560 I'll send you those other mixers about for us. For that, 89 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:26.959 it's this is the one for us, and and I'm 90 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:29.160 glad we can keep putting on that party. It's it's 91 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:30.920 really nice. It does mean a lot to us. We 92 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:33.560 kept talking about that and our crew over and over again. 93 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:36.439 So yeah, it was great to make that all happen. 94 00:04:37.279 --> 00:04:39.759 All right, let's get into us. Let's explain ourselves. We're 95 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:41.920 Giant Bomb. 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That 106 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:09.319 includes breaking news and maybe even some of our own 107 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:12.879 original reporting. For all these topics, I'll get the input 108 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:15.279 of a bona fide expert who will make me look smart. 109 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:18.199 If you were watching live on Twitch, welcome. You can 110 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:20.360 always listen to the show later on podcast feeds by 111 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:23.600 searching for Game This Mornings, or find the RSS feed 112 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:26.360 on giant bomb dot com. You can also catch the 113 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:28.879 show later with chapters and timestamps on YouTube. 114 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:31.040 Hello YouTube. 115 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:33.120 All right, we have a lot to get before we 116 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:39.639 started Please and literally like almost half a dozen embargos 117 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:44.160 just drop. So if you are curious, you can now 118 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:48.240 find more up to date reactions on Alien Isolation, to 119 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:53.399 Control Resonant only moves your way of the Sword, residevol Veronica, 120 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:59.040 saw Genesis, Aliens, Fire Team Elite to Please, wish list 121 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:04.680 it by the way, Crazy Crazy Taxi World to Jen Atlas, 122 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:09.160 Silent Hill Townfall, Sonic peakle Park. I think that one's 123 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:14.000 been up a while, that one out of Crossloads and 124 00:06:14.399 --> 00:06:18.720 Fable and also Gears of War E Day, So a 125 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:21.319 lot of embargos has just dropped. All the fucking ones. 126 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:24.319 Did anyone on staff take a look at it? Silent 127 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:26.839 Hill or not? So? Until Resident Evil? 128 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:30.480 Oh yeah, yeah, Mike and Jerff I think got into 129 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:33.839 that stage presser, stage screen presentation. 130 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:35.759 There wasn't much to it, it's my understanding. 131 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:39.199 Uh So you kind of went in there, and I 132 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:42.079 think Mike's Mike mentioned that it was like a a 133 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:44.439 they started with a history lesson of like here's how 134 00:06:44.439 --> 00:06:46.439 we got to this point in the Resident Evil lore, 135 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:48.360 and then there wasn't a ton after that. 136 00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:50.920 But he's he did most of those appointments. 137 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:53.240 Uh So we'll find a way to talk about those 138 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:56.680 probably on the BombCast next week. Everybody just let more 139 00:06:56.720 --> 00:06:59.759 and more of these embargoes laps. But uh, but yeah, 140 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:03.120 my understanding is that game looked good, but they didn't 141 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:05.079 see that much more of it to really really know. 142 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:08.000 Jin Atlas was the one I was curious to try 143 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:09.839 to get my hands on. Couldn't make that happen. I 144 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:11.360 know some other folks played that. 145 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:11.920 Again. 146 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:15.879 We'll talk about all these real soon, but yeah, I'm 147 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:19.680 seeing those impressions go up, like Alien Isolation too. It's like, yeah, 148 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:22.519 it's more Alien Isolation, the thing that you exactly wanted 149 00:07:22.519 --> 00:07:24.720 from that game. And you know the question of what 150 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:26.759 is the pacing going to be like, we're just not 151 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:28.560 gonna know that until we get the final version. But 152 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:31.160 if you're worried about this being a cool alien game, 153 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:34.279 yeah they're hitting that. I don't know. Overall it was 154 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:38.680 it was pretty It was pretty busy over there, but 155 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:40.759 there was enough games where it's like, okay, we can 156 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:42.120 keep Mike busy actually. 157 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:44.120 All day, and he was taking one apploytment after another. 158 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:46.040 So I'm looking forward to hearing what he's really got 159 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:47.800 to say about all of that when we get the chance. 160 00:07:48.839 --> 00:07:50.399 All right, we're gonna I was gonna start with our 161 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:52.360 summer gamefest thoughts. We did that a little bit, but 162 00:07:52.560 --> 00:07:55.720 uh yeah, just I guess one one final thing it 163 00:07:55.800 --> 00:07:59.600 was it was nice to see everybody in person as always. 164 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:02.639 Uh but you know, I like trying to get like 165 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:05.600 the finger on the pulse of the bigger companies coming 166 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:07.920 into Jeff's thing. It just it just doesn't seem like 167 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:09.879 they're going to do that consistently. It is going to 168 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:14.600 be a rotation. Nintendo showed up with mostly non first 169 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:18.319 party stuff. Capcom was there for I guess two years 170 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:19.759 in a row, so maybe they're the one company that 171 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:23.360 will consistently support it. But it does feel like when 172 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:25.800 a company has a game they will come to this thing. 173 00:08:25.800 --> 00:08:27.600 They're not going to force it like they did back 174 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:30.480 in E three, which was always like that was mechanical, right, 175 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:32.639 If you lost that floor space, you'd have to give 176 00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:34.480 it up the next year or you'd have to rebid 177 00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:36.679 for it, and that would be a big problem for them. 178 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:39.679 So it's not like this is going to be consistently 179 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:42.480 growing LEXI where it's like, okay, like you know, now 180 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:44.879 now they got Konami, they're going to be back every year. 181 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:47.879 It does feel like it's going to kind of stay 182 00:08:47.919 --> 00:08:54.480 at this scale and bubble around it mostly. Yeah, exactly right, yeah, 183 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:56.200 like the yeah, it's just not You're not going to 184 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:58.799 get consistent Triple A games inside of Summer Game Fest. 185 00:08:59.320 --> 00:09:01.159 And at the same time, like this is fine. I 186 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:05.000 think the way it's working is it's fully established itself. 187 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:07.120 It's not like this is some experiment anymore. This is 188 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:09.720 fully something that works. It's just never going to be 189 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:14.080 what E three was, and that's fine, all right. So 190 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:17.720 let's get into the other headlines. Xbox is exploring radically 191 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:21.120 different business models to make its next console affordable. 192 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:23.559 This is from Andy Robinson at VGC. 193 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:27.679 Xbox CEO Asha Sharma has suggested the platform holder is 194 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:30.559 looking at ways to make its next console, conamed Helix, 195 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:35.279 more affordable amid an ongoing hardware crisis. When the previous 196 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:38.200 leadership of Xbox first announced plans for its next console, 197 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:41.879 it was billed as a very premium system and the 198 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:45.039 largest technical leap you will ever have seen in a 199 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:48.240 hardware generation. However, in the year since, the price of 200 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:51.639 memory and storage components has rocketed, driven by demand for 201 00:09:51.679 --> 00:09:55.639 AI data centers, forcing many consumers devices consumer devices including 202 00:09:55.679 --> 00:10:00.440 PS five, Xbox, and Switch to raise prices dramatically. During 203 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:04.039 a Fortune Live event Xbox, Sharma called the component prices 204 00:10:04.159 --> 00:10:08.240 a price surge, a crisis, not a crisis for the 205 00:10:08.279 --> 00:10:11.639 games industry, and suggested that Microsoft was exploring ways to 206 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:15.000 reduce price of its next gen console, which in current 207 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:18.480 conditions would surely cost far more than the Xbox Series 208 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:21.879 x's five hundred dollars launch. Look on hardware, we are 209 00:10:21.879 --> 00:10:24.919 in a crisis right now. The entire industry is there's 210 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:28.200 a shortage of memory and storage and the cost are exponential. 211 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:29.639 This comes from a quote from Sharma. 212 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:32.639 They are usually at this point in the generation about 213 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:35.039 fifty percent of the cost, and we're seeing that they're 214 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:38.159 up two or two point seventy five X. They're up 215 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:41.159 fifty percent since they started. They're going to be effectively 216 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:42.960 seven point five X. I know she's just throwing out 217 00:10:42.960 --> 00:10:47.600 a random multiplication there. We know it's more expensive. Basically, 218 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:51.679 her response to this is radically different business models. Pricing 219 00:10:51.720 --> 00:10:53.799 as a lever, of course, but we think about other 220 00:10:53.879 --> 00:10:56.320 options as well. We must think about other ways to 221 00:10:56.360 --> 00:10:59.559 think about the cost construction of the console. We must 222 00:10:59.559 --> 00:11:02.080 think about how we create different plans so more people 223 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:05.759 can participate in the console. I don't know what it is. 224 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:09.279 Do you like renting things? Do you like subscriptions? Do 225 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:12.159 you like not owning the hardware that you own? Do 226 00:11:12.240 --> 00:11:15.000 you like using a terminal to log in to your 227 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:18.840 hardware device and buying compute power? That? That's that's what 228 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:21.559 this is. It's what Nvidio is doing, It's what Microsoft 229 00:11:21.639 --> 00:11:24.039 is doing. I want to pick out a real select 230 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:28.679 quote here that just posted on Blue Sky. I think 231 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:31.159 that we have that we have to think very differently 232 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:35.759 about storage and memory going forward. This is Shama. We 233 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:38.399 will have to apply new techniques so that we can 234 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:41.600 compress that. We will have to empower customers to have 235 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:45.399 flexible storage offerings. We will have to empower new types 236 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:48.000 of games so that they can fish on devices, and 237 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:50.159 so that there's going to be a lot more innovation. 238 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:53.559 That's a real long way of saying, we're going to 239 00:11:53.639 --> 00:12:00.360 find ways to bill you per gigabyte, so enjoy that. Yeah, 240 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:03.639 that's what that messaging is. It's the flexibility of having 241 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:07.120 different plans of do you want one hundred gigabytes or 242 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:10.320 a terabyte of storage available to you in the cloud 243 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:14.039 and that's all. That's where your games are stored is 244 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:15.159 in the cloud. 245 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:19.000 Right and just it just doesn't actually solve any of 246 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:22.960 the problems that people are talking about. You know, these 247 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:25.120 are a cute little ways you could position this stuff, 248 00:12:25.639 --> 00:12:27.720 but the people who have an issue with paying the 249 00:12:27.759 --> 00:12:30.960 price for these good consoles right now are not suddenly 250 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:33.200 going to feel great about their system. It's like, oh, 251 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.799 your thing comes with one hundred gigabytes of storage and 252 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:39.240 then you get another terabyte in the cloud. Okay, yeah, 253 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:40.960 but I no, I need it on the system so 254 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:43.039 I can play it. This is not going to actually 255 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:46.159 solve the problems to help people convince themselves to spend 256 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:47.799 the money to buy these things. Like, they're not going 257 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:49.320 to suddenly start selling a ton of more of these 258 00:12:49.360 --> 00:12:52.120 because they have fifty because they're fifty dollars cheaper because 259 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:53.000 you get shit in the cloud. 260 00:12:53.679 --> 00:12:56.399 So gub I posted this on Blue Sky this morning, 261 00:12:56.519 --> 00:12:59.639 and it's my ongoing theory that the next Xbox will 262 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:06.240 be subscription based, and that is because they have confirmed Dishes, 263 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:10.639 a Windows based platform which will have multiple storefronts Onish 264 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:13.720 if it has access to even Epic GameStore, and they've 265 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:16.360 said there will be their day one. Steam is still 266 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:18.320 up in the air, but surely if it's a Windows device, 267 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:21.000 you will just be able to install Steam boots into 268 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:26.440 Windows and install Steam. Xbox is a services company. Their 269 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:32.039 most profitable thing at Xbox is selling you permission to 270 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:35.080 play games online, and that's been the way that consoles 271 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:38.840 have focused or have worked since the PS three. In 272 00:13:38.879 --> 00:13:42.879 the Xbox Original, Xbox even was paying to play online 273 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:47.080 and gaining access to online games that way. They won't 274 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:49.279 have that with their next console if it is just 275 00:13:49.320 --> 00:13:52.679 a Windows machine, and so they need a new service. 276 00:13:53.080 --> 00:13:57.639 And the new service is the hardware itself, is access 277 00:13:57.759 --> 00:14:02.240 to use the compute that you have. Barsh It's fucking grim. 278 00:14:02.279 --> 00:14:05.480 But it's also what Invidia spent their whole GtC summit 279 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:10.279 at computext talking about, was that they wanted people just 280 00:14:10.360 --> 00:14:13.120 working off at terminals, not owning their PCs, working off 281 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:16.919 a terminals and having AI hit hop in video owned 282 00:14:17.679 --> 00:14:20.039 CPUs and GPUs that they can then bill you the 283 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:23.120 hours for you know, the tokens that you have to 284 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:27.480 use to get the answer to Hey, I'm trying to 285 00:14:27.600 --> 00:14:30.440 google something, can you please fucking answer this one thing 286 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:34.279 for me? And instead it asks a chatbot five hundred 287 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:39.279 times one question and it charges you for like five 288 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:43.639 hundred tokens. So yeah, these companies are all trying to 289 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:48.919 find ways to make this these systems infinitely profitable because 290 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:53.039 right now computers are limited by how many humans there 291 00:14:53.080 --> 00:14:54.039 are on the plane. 292 00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:54.240 Ish. 293 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:57.919 Yeah, there's infinite AI BA bots that they could sell 294 00:14:57.919 --> 00:14:59.320 them to, right, That's how it works. 295 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:03.240 And if you asked Jenson Wang, there's a billion humans, 296 00:15:04.519 --> 00:15:05.519 it's an actual thing. 297 00:15:05.639 --> 00:15:10.200 He said, they're so good at mass over there, Yeah. 298 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:12.080 Which I'm assuming someone told him there was a billion 299 00:15:12.240 --> 00:15:14.919 humans with access to videographics cards and he was like, well, 300 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:16.799 they're the only humans. 301 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:18.000 That those are the only humans that matter, yep. 302 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:24.000 And so yeah, enjoy that. I really like. I don't 303 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:25.879 think they could be any louder on what they're saying 304 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:28.480 without saying it. But I also think it has been 305 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:32.559 fascinating to see how unavailable Xbox has been for comment. 306 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:35.879 I know, Game Informer just did an interview with Matt Booty, 307 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:41.679 but like, you're not. Asha Shama didn't go to Summer 308 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:44.399 games Fest to talk to press. She went to a 309 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:46.039 Bloomberg conference. 310 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:49.840 To talk to she you know, did the thing that 311 00:15:49.879 --> 00:15:51.960 Phil used to do walk around the summer game first 312 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:54.039 campus and like would bump into a couple of people 313 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:56.759 they had a mixer. I think she might have been there. 314 00:15:57.279 --> 00:15:59.759 I know I was talking to you know, Sharia was 315 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:01.200 going to try to go bump into her there or 316 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:03.080 whatever and like get one on one time with her 317 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:05.399 and stuff like that. It's the it's the kind of 318 00:16:05.399 --> 00:16:08.679 thing where Okay, yeah, they were not doing those official interviews. 319 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:11.360 I think Game Spot might have talked to one of 320 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:14.240 the new strategic leads. I want to sign you Matthew 321 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:16.679 Ball almost like is that the name of the director 322 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:18.840 of the of the Zelda movie or is that maybe 323 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:20.120 that's a different matel. 324 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:22.080 Ball is the analyst that they hired. 325 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:26.600 Right, Yeah, well West Wes one that's doing one that's 326 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:27.159 doing Zelda. 327 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:30.559 Yeah, Westball is the guy directing the Zelda movie. Yes, 328 00:16:31.840 --> 00:16:34.480 but yeah, Matthew Ball is an interesting high in and 329 00:16:34.519 --> 00:16:38.399 of himself as an analyst to bring into the c suite. 330 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:41.879 Uh yep, Which I know that that tells you a lot. 331 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:42.639 Yep. 332 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:45.759 I mean I think what all this stuff they're They're 333 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:47.879 saying a lot here. They come with all their plans. 334 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:51.519 These plans are for them and for their partners, and 335 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:54.519 it's not none of this is an answer for the 336 00:16:54.559 --> 00:16:57.919 person trying to spend money on a console or to 337 00:16:58.039 --> 00:17:01.279 potentially rent the hardware from from them, Like, none of 338 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:04.640 this is convincing. So the problems that they have faced 339 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:06.680 for a long time now that have been exacerbated by 340 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:09.480 the increases in price are only going to get worse, 341 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:12.400 and none of this answers that and suddenly creates an 342 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:14.519 opportunity for more people to get into the space. 343 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:17.680 So it felt like a lot of nothing. 344 00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:19.559 And then yeah, they could pat each other on the back, 345 00:17:19.640 --> 00:17:22.680 being like, the things we're talking about are selling our 346 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:25.839 sixty thousand dollars GPUs to each other instead of selling 347 00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:29.079 a five hundred dollars system to one customer, And we 348 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:30.920 can feel really good about that because that looks way 349 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:34.480 better for now, and in the meantime we all feel. 350 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:35.359 More and more pushed out. 351 00:17:35.839 --> 00:17:38.839 And if anything like from you know, out of summer 352 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:40.400 game fist, out of the first half of this year, 353 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:42.920 it is that this you know, this cohort of people 354 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:45.680 that we usually speak to on this show do spend 355 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:48.079 a lot of money still, and you kind of do 356 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:50.799 actually need to keep them, I don't know, maybe not happy. 357 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:53.640 We're never happy, but keep us around and feeling engaged, 358 00:17:54.079 --> 00:17:56.680 and none of that is happening in these quotes. 359 00:17:56.799 --> 00:17:59.799 I mean, like they need to because they're not growing 360 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:03.559 young audience. That's been pretty fucking clear for a while. Yep, 361 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:07.920 young people aren't out there buying Xboxes because it turns 362 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:11.480 out thirsteen year olds in twenty twenty six don't have 363 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:16.440 nine hundred dollars to spend on a fucking console. So, like, 364 00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:20.400 I don't know what the actual play here is. If 365 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:23.519 it's like them telling kids to steal their parents' credit 366 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:26.839 cards and get them on a subscription plan without them noticing, 367 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:30.759 I will say, grub really good analysis. Everything we could 368 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:32.440 have said could have been white noise for the last 369 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:36.640 five minutes after Chat realized that Xbox employees a Matt 370 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:38.039 Ball and a mash Booty. 371 00:18:38.759 --> 00:18:43.799 Yeah, I mean the Matt Body Park crew is. Yeah, 372 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:47.160 I'm a big fan of them. Sure, absolutely, uh man, 373 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:50.759 Matt matthew Ball is already having a day over here 374 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:52.799 as Andy. Well, maybe I have to wrap up that 375 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:55.559 at some point. Yeah, I don't know. He might have 376 00:18:55.599 --> 00:18:59.720 been retweeting some weirdos on yet from the Grums crew. 377 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:00.400 I don't know. 378 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:03.920 I'm looking at it right now. Yep, exactly great. I 379 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:05.759 let's actually find out what's going on there and then 380 00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:07.960 we'll talk about it some other day. All right, let's 381 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:11.160 actually let's take a break, come back, and let's hit 382 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:13.480 the direct after this. I was kind of half able 383 00:19:13.519 --> 00:19:15.599 to watch the direct from Get It while I was 384 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:16.359 getting on a plane. 385 00:19:16.880 --> 00:19:18.160 Someone, have you walked me through this. 386 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:20.160 We'll talk about every game that was in that direct 387 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:23.079 at least a little bit right after these messages. If 388 00:19:23.079 --> 00:19:24.440 you want to skip out on these, you can go 389 00:19:24.480 --> 00:19:27.279 to giant bomb dot com slash join become a premium member. 390 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:35.480 We will be right back. All right, we are back. 391 00:19:35.599 --> 00:19:39.200 It's Games Mornings. That's Lex Luddie. I'm Jeff Grubb. Lex. 392 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:42.720 You talked over the Nintendo direct with the Giant Bomb 393 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:43.359 crew yesterday. 394 00:19:43.359 --> 00:19:44.480 Thanks for helping us out with that. 395 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:48.000 Yeah, I have literally non memory of it. I'm not 396 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:49.920 sure if you know this, but if you're on content, 397 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:51.440 you just fucking blackout. 398 00:19:51.599 --> 00:19:53.440 It's just black guy. It's a fugue state. 399 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:57.480 Yeah, Absolutelyfully, you could tell me fucking anything showed up. 400 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:00.680 Star Tropics three could have shown up. I'd be alive 401 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:01.920