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Speaker 1: You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers

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as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates

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about his medical journey, please go to the caring Bridge

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link in the show notes. Thank you all right, Thank

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for Society. Welcome back to another episode. We got the

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privilege of talking to Jerry Brandenburg today. We got connected.

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Jerry's sounds like it is of course a listener of

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the show, so thank you for that, Jerry. But he's

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got some really interesting things. We'll be headed out to

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southern California today for a bit of it. But you know,

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Jerry's got a fun background. He's got a lot of

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things going on, and he's been a rodeo rider, he's

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been an iron worker, all sorts of things, and then

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he got all all connected into this Bigfoot activity and

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he's had some really interesting things happen over the years.

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So welcome to the show. Jerry. How are you doing today, sir?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing really good. Thank you Jeremiah for having me.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. We we've been trying to get this one going

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for a while and just you know, thank you for

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being patient.

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Speaker 2: I had to.

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Speaker 1: I'm juggling stuff with appointments with doctors, but we're making

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it happen. So, Jerry, how long have you been connected

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to the Bigfoot in your area? Would you say?

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Speaker 2: And in two thousand and one is when they kept

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putting signs in front of me, and I said, okay,

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let's see what you got to show me. I want

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to see it. And I opened up to it because

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it's been coming at me for pretty much all my

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life and I didn't want to see it. Yeah, I said, no,

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I don't know what it is. I don't want to

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see that stuff at all. And then so I saw

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the big footprint in Carl's Bad, California on a job

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in twenty twenty one. And you know where they build

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these new construction sites. I'm a building inspector. Where they

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build these new construction sites, it's usually land that's never

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been developed ever. It's you know, untouched, so and it's

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usually next to some land that's untouched too, Like in

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San Diego. They've got all this property find stuff. The

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Navy does out there, you know, the military, and it's

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all finced offf It's a lot and there's a lot

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of sightings from other people. There's some YouTube stuff with

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some guys that see stuff at Hudson Dam there.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, the area is Southern California is crazier that most

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people think when it comes to Bigfoot comes up a

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little bit. But I'm curious, so did you have you

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mentioned that you kind of we're pushing it aside the

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first part of your life. Is it a thing where

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it was? How is it coming up? And you were

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kind of pushing it aside where you just were you

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just seeing weird stuff or was it part of your

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culture or what was going on there.

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Speaker 2: I'm still learning a lot about it. Apparently I grew

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up so this place where we're going to take you

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to here in a little bit. Where I've been seeing

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everything is just ten to fifteen miles as the crow

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flies over the mountain to where I grew up in

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a town and so cal and there's the river bottom

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runs right next to it and runs down to this place,

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you know. And so I lived just a block and

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a half away, not big blocks, you know, away from

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this place, and we rode our horses, we were riding

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junior rodeo, and we always had our horses in the

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river bottom all the time we were down there. And

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I've just recently found some videos that talk about the

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Indians talking about that was the Sasquatch migration path for

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a thousands of Sasquatches a year. They went right through there, boom, boom,

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boom all the time. So I grew up there and

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some you know, some things that happened that I just

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pushed away, really and it's coming to light now now

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that I'm finding out about them. I'm thinking, WHOA that

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that happened to me a long time ago, and that

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that's possible, But you can't say it is. There's no

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way to possibly say it is one hundred percent, you know,

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I'm just but it could have been. So I just

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kind of like to leave it right there, you know,

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on the shelf. Maybe it'll come to light. And another

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something more I learned about my past. But I went

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to Oklahoma when I was nineteen and I was living

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on a house and the Ponty Indian Reservation. I rented

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a house. I was working for Brown and Root out

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there as ironworker. And I was by myself when I'm

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on this out in this highway house, just open fields

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all around me, nobody right. And so the houses are

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built about three feet up off the ground right there.

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wall next to the window at night, something would come

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and start tapping on my window happened and I'd be like,

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oh man, what is this right? And you could hear it.

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I could hear it out there. Something's big. You can

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just feel its bean right, you know. And I get

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some of that too, experience too, probably dealing with horses

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and bulls and you know your Clydes Dell's. I used

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to work with Clydes Dells. You're always around these big animals.

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You know, you can tell when you're around something big.

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a dog jumping on them. They just get scared, right,

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you know. And then there's people that can handle big

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animals or used to being around big animals. That's me

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or not. But so I could tell it was out there,

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and I would sit there and I would hold the curtains.

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I was going to open it. I was nineteen, nineteen

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years old, and I was, oh, man, I ain't going

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to open it, because if we were face to face

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right now, it might have to do something to me.

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So I went and I bought me a little twenty

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two rifle. I don't know what that was going to do, right,

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I don't know what that was going to do to it.

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But so I was. I was, you know, the nineteen

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year old careless kid, you know. And I started shooting everything.

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I would shoot the armadillos come across my yard, anything

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that came across my yard, I would kill it, bam bams,

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for no reason, just kill it. And I had this

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something tell me stop it, plain as day, stop it.

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And I had to remember this too. A couple of

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years ago, I remembered all this started all coming back

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to me because I buried it all, let it go.

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I took off from that house, and I didn't go back.

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I had people go and move my stuff out when

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I did finally leave. Yeah, and I was there for

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a little over a year, and I wasn't nothing that said, hey,

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look at me on bigfoot or I can see bigfoot.

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But I remember it was just it's a bigfoot, thinking

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this is a bigfoot. So maybe that was put into

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my psyche or whatever. But I was told, plain simple,

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quit shooting them, by something. Stop shooting the animals, you know.

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I was headed going over to the church a lot

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and trying to learn about God and everything. And you know,

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it also could have been God telling me to stop it.

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Something said stop it, and I didn't. I didn't. I

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killed one more thing. It was. It was up there.

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My dogs were barking. I went out there. I still

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don't know what it is. It's like a raccoon, but bigger,

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same colors but brown and black, not gray and black,

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but same twisted colors, you know, rings around tails and everything.

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I don't know what that is, you know, I've tried

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to find out what that is. Wolverine. I'm not sure

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exactly what it could be. And it was big and

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I shot it killed and my food out there in

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the field, walked away, and I went to church a

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couple of days later, and I came back and there's

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my nice hound dog dead in the street with its

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head caved in. Oh yeah, it could never get out.

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It couldn't have got out of that pen, you know.

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you know, I remember this. So this is all just

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feelings at this point, you know. But we're finding out

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right everyone's talking about that they can do this.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean it, it makes sense because it's like,

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you know, they reach out to you first, hey, stop

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doing this, and then if you're not going to listen

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to that, then it's like, okay, now this is going

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to happen. And it's like you do hear stuff like

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that happening unfortunately, and it's really it's really sad. You know,

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a lot of dogs and yeah, attribute a good way

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to put it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I want to teach you if the something's

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trying to teach you, you can. You can go through

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life with your eyes closed or go through your life

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the guy's open. So yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask, did you did your viewpoint change.

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Speaker 2: I didn't kill nothing else. After that, I stopped them.

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I haven't killed nothing since then. Yeah, I don't kill stuff.

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I learned right then. I try to hopefully I'm a

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fast learner. I try to say I am. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: It was wrong.

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Speaker 2: I was doing so this dumb nineteen year old kid

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out there at the gun nothing to do, you know,

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I was I'm from Calsocals. I wasn't trained to be

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a hunter like you know the people in that region are.

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They're good hunters. You know, they grow up hunting as

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country boys stuff and country people. They grew up hunting.

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and that twenty two wasn't going to do nothing anyway.

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shot at one of these things. I hope I would

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never have to, you know, because that's not my thing

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is I'm I'm going to tell you right now that

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I'm going to be in the conservation of them. You know,

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if we can find we can find out more about them,

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and if there's a way to help help them, you know,

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probably the best way to help them leave them alone.

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they're there and we know I'm it's proven thing. Okay,

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to we have to live with them. We're going to

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give them a state.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's gonna be it's gonna be more than it's

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gonna be. You think about all the wildlife areas that

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it could, it's gonna be one or the other. Where

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my feelings it's like, you're there's gonna be a ton

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of wildlife areas put aside for conservation or the other side.

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It's going to be people like, oh, we can't live

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with something that's smarter with us, and they're going to

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try to take them out. And it's like there's going

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to be this huge thing where it's going to be

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like one side versus the other. I feel where it's

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like conservation versus humanity. It's gonna get really I think

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it's gonna be really weird. Jerry, and I hope it

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doesn't get to that point.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I believe in that Esau, the Senate

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of Esau, you know were Esau was born with red hair.

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You know, it was strong like the hunt deer lived

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outside all the time, right, his brother Jacob, he stayed

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in the tent with the you know, the regular humans,

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all the women, right, and Esau had the birthright, but uh,

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you know the Jacob's mom helped him trick it, trick

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it away from which I think you gave it away anyway.

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I think he's probably laughing. Take it. You want the

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rat race, take the rat race, right, but give me

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my bulolentials. Right, That's what That's what it came out

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down to. Yeah, that's in the Bible, and it talked

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also about that there there they call it. They're called

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God's unforbidden people nation. And when they were in her belly,

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they were fighting a lot too, right, and she asked God,

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why why are they fighting? As he told her, you

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have two nations in your stomach.

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Speaker 1: It is that. It's a very interesting story that has

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another experience that you feel was related to Sasquatch?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was probably while after that because I went

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to work done in South Texas where Brandon Root and

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I ended up having some money get me a house

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in a different state, and they moved or a different

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city in Oklahoma, and they moved me out of there,

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and I came back to that new house. I didn't

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even go back to that house. I was down in

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Texas for six months. I didn't want to go back

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to that house. And when you look at it now

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on map Quest and you look at the area, yeah,

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it's totally doable, and there's all kinds of didings around

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there too, in the area. But yeah. Then, so fast

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forward to what year was that I was in boating

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in Silverwood Lake with my son. We were on a boat.

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He was nine. He was born in nineteen ninety six,

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so it was like two thousand and four, and we're

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boating along and I'm coming up to where the water

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runs out of the lake. You know, it's wide right there,

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and it's a couple hundred feet wide, and I'm boating

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up to it and I see this tall, tall, tall,

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tall man, like over seven feet man. I was always

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thinking it as Shaquillo O'teal looking that big right or bigger,

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And it was naked, had no clothes on, no clothes on,

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and it looked like, now, maybe it's hairless. You know,

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I really wasn't thinking. All I looked at I saw

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is just a big, tall naked man in front of

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me when we were boating up there, and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Look,

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oh my, whoa, whoa, that's a big naked man. And

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I cut the boat right as fast as I could

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and just made a big uie and got out of there,

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you know, looking back over my shoulder at him. And

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I was looking at him for a while too, because

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he was in the middle, and he looked up at me,

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and then he made that move almost look like the

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way the move that Patty makes, you know, you see

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that big old hip, the big old butt, the old leg,

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tall big body made that same move when I think

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about it now. But I never didn't think about it

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anything about it then at all. And then fast forward

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about ten years later, maybe I was about a softball

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game and it was in the stands and this guy's

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from is he from Colorado? He was the guys from Colorado,

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And he said that he was fishing there at the

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big lake there and he had all his fish hanging

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up on a stringer, and through the weeds came hairless bigfoot.

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So he's telling us this and I wasn't even into it.

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I'm like, yeah, whatever, just listening, and he goes, yeah,

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it was a hairless bigfoot and he was big. It

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was a bigfoot sasquatch, and he had no hair on him.

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And he came up and he was grunting and pointing

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out his fish and he goes, here, take the fish. Right.

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The thing took the fish, and as it walked away

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and went through the weeds, he could see that there

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was a female and kids, young ones there with them.

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So he's telling us a story, just like playing this

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day and I'm okay, cool, whatever, And I still hadn't

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put it together. And then here a couple of years later,

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I was watching the Small Town Monsters and they have

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a thing on soak out fasquatches. Oh yeah, and they

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said that they had those sightings there at that lake Silverwood.

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And that's when it hit me, boom, oh, man, that

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might have been a hairless bigfoot. You know, we're seventh

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for six tall necked man.

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Speaker 1: Wow, absolutely, absolutely incredible. So when you I always find

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it fascinating when witnesses have that realization where someone else

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has experienced what I experienced. What was that realization like

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for you? Did that affect you in any way?

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Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, well like now. So in twenty and twenty one,

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I saw this footprint and Carlsbad, California, and I took

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a picture of it I sent to you. It's on

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hard pack too. I'm really even amazing I saw it,

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you know, because it's on hard pack where they rolled

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and rolled and it's still left a little indention of

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it was about sixteen inches tall long. I guess that's

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that's the footprint where that's the muddy where it looks

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like they curled their toes and drug their toes. It

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doesn't look like a regular foot to me. That's out.

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That's out at my place. I'm looking looking through here,

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still looking with what you're what you're sending there, Yeah,

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I was. You know, what was the one of the

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last ones that I sent you? I don't know that. Yeah,

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So it was hard I'm surprised I could even see

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it because they had rolled it. Everyone's been driving on that.

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It was hard packed and no cushion to it. But

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you can still see the outline of a big foot.

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You can see all the toes, the big toe, and

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you can see how it comes in and out and

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around the hill. And it was long. And that's when

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I looked up and started going, what and the heck

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is going on? So that was with this one company.

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I had the same job the same company in the

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Gora Hills, so we're doing the same exact building and

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the Gora Hills at the same time. And that Gore

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Hills big it's a huge mountain right on this one

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ten freeway, I believe it's the one tent freeway and

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it's right there along the freeway, so we're on the

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other side of it. So it goes the big Hill

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the freeway and then we're doing the job stid. We're

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pouring three hundred yards a big, big, big slab. So

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I go out there to do the Rebard check before

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the poor and I'm just all, uh, just stuck on

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this mountain and they're all going, what are you doing? Ill,

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There's something up there? Oh, there's nothing up there. I go,

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I'm telling you, there's something up there. And so I

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took off and I went down the next exit to

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Big five Sporting goods and I bought everything I could.

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I bought it binoculars, a telescope, and I got all

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this stuff, and I brought it back to the job

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site and I had it sitting up on the hood

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of my truck and I'm scoping up there and they're

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all knock it off. What are you doing. I go,

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I'm tell you there's something up there. They go, there's

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nothing there. So the next day I come back into're

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porn concrete and everyone's porn concrete right there, and they're

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all looking at the poor with their back to the mountain.

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I'm turning around facing the other way, just staring up there,

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and they're all stopping, and I go, I'm telling you,

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there's something up there. So I went to go get gas.

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And the gas stations on that side, you know, of

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the same side with the mountain just right below it,

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and so I'm pumping gas and I'm just like leaning

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in my truck and I'm just like staring up there,

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just looking just at this big rock and in front

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of the big rock walks they had to have been twins,

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the solid black from head to toe. As far as

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I was maybe two hundred yards probably two football fields

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way two and a half looking straight up, and so

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that probably make they were probably like four foot five

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foot twins. Had to have been twins, solid black from

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head to toe, and they just stood there and they're

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just looking out over everything. And I was like, no way,

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and I'm like, how how does this happen? How can

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you just look up there? I manifested to June all subsquatches,

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you know. They came around that corner and just stood there.

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And then they left and I finished pumping the gas,

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and my head was all spun out. Man, I was

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I was driving swerving kind of film with one hand

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and I didn't crash. And then then the next day

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I went up and we weren't doing nothing on the job,

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but I had my wife and my kids, and that's

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the first day I took that first step toward let's

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see what's going on. And so we were there and

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we were videotaping a bunch of stuff and I got

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what looks like some weird stuff that's far, far, far away,

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and I wouldn't sew it to nobody, but I kept

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having this vision in my head, the big one, a big,

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big one with hair about three or four inches, just

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blowing in the wind, just coming down all bad ass,

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like barking out his kids like I do with my kids.

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You know, let's go, let's go right. And I don't

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know what that was. I don't know if that was,

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but for somehow they had me in this thing for

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a couple of days, in this in this in the cot,

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in this thing.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they need sorry I want so like in a

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trance or just like connected connect it feels like there's

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a connection there. You're experiencing things and it's happening for

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a few days.

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Speaker 2: Or there you go, there you go. And then I

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kept having this kept having this vision that that was

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a portal up there, and that's where they come in

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and out and they probably always even though we're building

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and coming, getting bigger and building and building and building.

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I have this vision idea that they have their spots

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and they're not going to change their spots. They're gonna

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they're going to stay where they've always been. If they

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if they do come in and out like that, you know,

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I just had this vision that's that's what they were

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doing up there.

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Speaker 1: And where where you're talking about right now, you says.

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Speaker 2: Agora Hills are Hills, California, So.

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Speaker 1: That's like over by thousand Oaks in north of Alibu

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and all that Alabama mountains.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Calabasas, the whole while area of oceans close. You know,

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the oceans are real close and the mountains are all

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real close. Everything now people and people, you know.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. Yeah, there's so much I want to

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go back to, uh, let's see it was Silverwood Lake

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and talk a little bit about that because I find

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that fascinating, because I want to make sure listeners realize,

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like if you look at the map that's on big

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for Society podcast dot com, where like all the people

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that I've talked to, this is in a relatively close

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area I would say of like Crestline, Yeah, big barrelhead,

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and there's a ton of activity that has been I

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mean that's also where like Claudia Actlee was having things happen.

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If you're familiar with that name, Rest in peace, Claudia.

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But so when you had the sighting of the hairless Bigfoot,

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were you able to get a good look at its

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face at all at that time?

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Speaker 2: As far as I'm just did I get a good

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I remember seeing his face, Yeah, I remember seeing his face,

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and it just looked odd, big guy, hairless. I guess

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he had hair on his head. I can't remember. I

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guess he had hair on his head. And it wasn't

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super dark or super light. It was like a tan

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a tan guy. And like I say, every biggest se

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killer bigger. And that's an odd place because that's all

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camping right there, and there's always a lot of kids

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right there, A lot of kids right there, you know,

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So that the seven foot tall naked man sounds I

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think a big foot sounds a lot would be more

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uh would be more it than a seven foot tall

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nicked man running around with a bunch of kids, are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and especially if you have collaborating stories

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where I mean, you have the gentleman that you heard

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and it would be interesting to hear. I'm gonna say

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this a certain way.

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Speaker 2: I've heard about it again, somebody else says something about

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Samariti sasquatches.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it would be interesting to know if if the

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gentleman so he just saw not only a male but

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also a female and a juvenile as well, and two

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to see if they were kind of the same way

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where it was like careless. I'm gonna say that a

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certain way so, but yeah, we might not be all finish.

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Speaker 2: They're eating their raw fit. You know, they want the

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raw fish absolutely awesome. And he said he didn't argue

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with them. He goes here, take it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, who's going to argue with I'd be like, yeah,

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take the whole stringer, dude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I remember that story good. But this say

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is before too that, Like I said, I let him

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on my radar, and then so that happened. That happened,

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and then I saw I saw him. I'm living at

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Canyon Lake on a it's a lake here on a

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private community in SoCal but it's right down the right

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down the road, twenty minutes from where I grew up,

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and it's on the on the side of the same

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mountain ridgeline. You know, it's right there, right close to

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that same mountain. And so I'm living there for the

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last six years. And all of a sudden, I start

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seeing these things on TV. Right Like, I start catching

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these these things on TV. I'm watching all these bigfoot

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sasquatch things, and these guys are recording. I go that

471
00:25:03,559 --> 00:25:08,400
sasquatch right there, you know. I start seeing these things,

472
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:13,799
like there's one that's on those guys that were in portocol, Alaska,

473
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,119
you know that little group of and it was one

474
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,359
of the last ones. I think it was on nine.

475
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,200
And they're looking, they're walking through the woods and they're filming.

476
00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:24,559
They're looking. Well, if you look up, you see a

477
00:25:24,599 --> 00:25:29,480
little brown figure come out right from behind the tree

478
00:25:29,759 --> 00:25:31,400
and you can see most of them. You can see

479
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,359
his arm, you can see everything. He comes out and

480
00:25:33,519 --> 00:25:36,519
he kind of like disappears. They never say nothing about it,

481
00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:38,599
but I did see one guy that did say something

482
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,240
about it. But I had it good. I recorded it

483
00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:43,640
good and I blew it up real good. And when

484
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,000
you look at it almost looks like a big panda.

485
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,200
At one point, it goes from a person to a

486
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,720
big panda, a big panda. I was talking to someone

487
00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:58,039
World Bigfoot Society. That's good. Yeah, No, Central World Bigfoot

488
00:25:58,079 --> 00:26:01,319
Central Duke talking to him and he says that that

489
00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:05,839
that thing, it's a nanty knock. It's a forest spirit. Yeah,

490
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,160
it's a forest spirit, right, which is I guess it's

491
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,799
a big foot. But they also stay it looks like

492
00:26:10,839 --> 00:26:16,200
a big bear sometimes that's on there. Yeah, that's all there.

493
00:26:16,319 --> 00:26:17,039
Easy to see.

494
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: The Portlock story is such a fascinating story. If people

495
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,880
aren't aware of that, definitely. I think it was called

496
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:29,680
Alaskan Alaska Killer Bigfoot or yeah, there's some there's a

497
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,160
great few great books out out there as well. I'll

498
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,160
try to have those LinkedIn in the show notes so

499
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,680
you can check it out for yourself. But so you

500
00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:43,000
have this these experiences.

501
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 2: I started seeing these things. Yeah, and there's a couple

502
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,920
other two. There's there's one at the beginning of less

503
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,599
Stroud's thing. It looks like it looks like, uh, what's

504
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:01,079
that thing that flies? And it's got red eyes. The

505
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,599
devil Jersey devil looks like a Jersey devil and it's

506
00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:07,440
sitting on top of a branch on his the beginning

507
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,880
of his things. They never say nothing about it. So

508
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,319
I start seeing these things. And so next thing you know,

509
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,079
I'm at the lake at where I live in Canyon Lake,

510
00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:17,799
and I look down and here's a big print. It's

511
00:27:17,799 --> 00:27:23,359
about fifteen sixteen inches long, right, and it's Prince and

512
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,880
I see him and I'm taking pictures of them. And

513
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,599
that's what I found out, so I've been finding out

514
00:27:28,759 --> 00:27:32,279
is if you find their stuff and you start looking

515
00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:35,559
around and they go, oh, look, he knows, right, that's

516
00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:38,759
when I start getting activity right after that. And it's

517
00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:41,440
happened to me three times where I've taken pictures of

518
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,039
the prince and started looking for him and next thing,

519
00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:48,160
you know, you start seeing them start seeing things about him.

520
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:54,200
Because I've seen I think six boks total now wow. Yeah,

521
00:27:54,279 --> 00:27:57,759
and they mostly been here from here lately. And so

522
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,200
I send you those prints too, And it's weird because

523
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,000
if you look at the one, it looks like it

524
00:28:02,039 --> 00:28:04,640
looks like a big print. But I noticed it later

525
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,839
that they outlined it with sticks, you know what I'm saying,

526
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,000
Like they outlined it probably with sticks, and they also

527
00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:14,599
put one stick directly over the metal talks for break,

528
00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:18,240
you know right there that at that point they outlined that.

529
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:20,279
So I mean, if you look and then you look

530
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:22,039
at it, and it's got a couple bugs in it,

531
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,319
like maybe it's stunk, you know, and these bugs came

532
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,599
and crawled in it and got in it, right, And

533
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,400
there's one that to me looks like a handprint, so

534
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:33,680
it's possible handprint and a footprint. I sent those to you,

535
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,839
and so this is where it's going to get weird.

536
00:28:39,119 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: Oh I'm ready, I'm ready. I think I found let

537
00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:43,759
me see if I can.

538
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: This is where it's going to be strange, okay, but

539
00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:50,680
I just roll with it, right, and it's not one

540
00:28:50,759 --> 00:28:54,359
hundred percent. Yeah, this is factual. This is fact what happened.

541
00:28:54,519 --> 00:28:57,519
The facts are what happened. But what the facts, the

542
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,000
meaning is the meaning, you know, this is what it is.

543
00:29:01,839 --> 00:29:05,559
And so right after that, I'm at home, just right

544
00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:08,920
after I took those pictures, and I'm at home and

545
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,599
I come out one morning and in the back of

546
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,759
my truck was sitting there, and in the back of

547
00:29:13,759 --> 00:29:17,720
the truck was an ear of corn still in the

548
00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:20,440
shop in the husk, right, And as they took the

549
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,680
fishing pole that was in the back of my truck,

550
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,960
I folded up chair and I think a fishing bag.

551
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,440
And it looks like they made a diamond out of it. Okay,

552
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:30,920
looks like they made it. Yeah, there it is. So

553
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,640
it looks like they made a diamond out of what

554
00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:34,559
I had in there, and they placed that corn in

555
00:29:34,599 --> 00:29:39,960
there like a presentation the way it's sitting like look here, yeah,

556
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,359
my wife, my wife doesn't buy corn like that. We

557
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,319
do not eat corn like that at all. So we

558
00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:47,759
don't never have no corn and like I said, I'm

559
00:29:47,759 --> 00:29:49,799
in a private community. No one can just walk up

560
00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:52,039
to my house. And nobody ever walked up to my house.

561
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,599
And the truck had been sitting there for about five days.

562
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,839
Speaker 1: Okay, so the corn showed U up by itself. And

563
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,920
also not only that stuff is kind of put on

564
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,799
top of like that fishing that.

565
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't your band. It wasn't in the shape

566
00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:12,480
of a diamond. It wasn't that shape of a diamond.

567
00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:15,440
And so that was sort of like then I well,

568
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,559
I had a bad headache, man, I had I had

569
00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:20,960
a real bad headache. This is a screenshot I filmed.

570
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,240
I was filming it. And so my wife, she goes,

571
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:28,359
they want to know if you trust them. She tells

572
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,960
me that, and I'm all, I don't know. And so

573
00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:33,480
I put it in the freezer. I froze it, and

574
00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:36,279
I thought about it for three or four weeks, and

575
00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:37,640
then I go, you know, I'm gonna go home. I'm

576
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,000
gonna cook that corn, and I'm gonna eat it. And

577
00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:44,079
I did and it tasted good, you know, so we'll

578
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:46,640
see what. I wasn't expecting nothing to happen. I just

579
00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:51,000
I just ate it. And then I would say, two

580
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,759
months later, I find this place on YouTube. I'm watching

581
00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:59,079
YouTube and it says such and such and such and

582
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:02,440
such area. I go, whoa, that's that's right here, man,

583
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,240
where I've been driving by to work for the last

584
00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:06,400
forty years, right next to it, on the other side

585
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,680
of the mountain. Right, this thing's on the other this

586
00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:11,400
other side of this big mountain, closer to the ocean

587
00:31:12,279 --> 00:31:14,920
and the Pacific Ocean. And so I tell my wife,

588
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,480
I go, look, they're saying that sasquatches are all over

589
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:20,440
this place. Well, they go there. The people mostly go

590
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,400
there for the ghosts, because I guess there's a lot

591
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,160
of ghost stuff. I sent you a ghost picture from

592
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,440
this morning from there. Yep. I looked like a little

593
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,359
ghost girl. Yeah, it looked like weird. Where's it? It

594
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:39,279
just popped up on our pictures? And so I guess

595
00:31:39,359 --> 00:31:42,279
thirteen kids got killed there in the seventies where a

596
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:45,119
school bus rolled off the hill. Yeah, that's it. A

597
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,759
school bus rolled off the hill and killed thirteen kids.

598
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,319
Everyone goes there for the ghost activity. I don't. I'm

599
00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:54,480
not into it. But he says, oh, by the way,

600
00:31:54,519 --> 00:31:57,319
there's sasquatches walking around all over the place. Out there,

601
00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:01,039
and I'm like whatever, and so, yeah, that's a picture.

602
00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:02,759
It looks like she's got a little pink dress on

603
00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:04,519
and you can see a little white legs, a little

604
00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:06,759
white hand, and she has a little bonnet, a little

605
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:09,839
pink bonnet on her white face. That's what I see anyway,

606
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:11,480
or it's nothing.

607
00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: Looks like you, dude, is weird, especially you got like this.

608
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,000
I don't know if I think my cursor is.

609
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: Showing like there's a story behind it too, you know,

610
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,640
it's so weird. Yeah, I think it looks like a

611
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,480
little ghost girl and a little pink dress and a

612
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:33,960
pink bonnet on her head. Anyway, Yeah, so they go

613
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,400
in there. They all go in there for that, and

614
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,279
there's been a lot of more deaths in there too.

615
00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:39,920
There was a massacre of a bunch of Indians that

616
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,400
got massacred in there a long time ago, and then

617
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,960
I guess a bunch of frontiermen got killed in there,

618
00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:48,680
and then later on the landowners were shooting at each

619
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,079
other in there in that canyon. So there's been a

620
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:53,720
lot of death in there.

621
00:32:53,759 --> 00:32:57,759
Speaker 1: I guess was did you sorry, did you Is that

622
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,920
a canyon.

623
00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: Where this is the canyon where I've been seeing everything.

624
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,359
It's the hiking trail, man, It's just crazy. It's just

625
00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:09,000
the hiking trail. I haven't been off the trail either.

626
00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:12,240
While I did go once, but it was real quick

627
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,000
and I came back. But you know, they might even

628
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:18,079
be baiting me to come up, come look up in

629
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:21,039
those up in these caves, because it's full of caves.

630
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:23,440
I mean, it's just riddled with caves. And on the

631
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,200
other sides of the freeway you can't see nothing nice

632
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,319
and normal. You get on the other side of the mountain,

633
00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:32,359
it's just solid caves and these stories. So I don't

634
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,200
have the only story about the stuff that's going on

635
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:39,799
in there. I told one person when I saw a

636
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,599
couple of years ago, so I could time to get

637
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,680
some information, and so I could get them to look

638
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,160
at my pictures. I sent that one picture to the

639
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:50,519
Duke and him and MK Davis put it on the

640
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:52,119
show and they were looking at it. It's the one

641
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,359
where it looks like a gorilla on all fours, down

642
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,559
on a walking on all fours and it's behind an

643
00:33:58,599 --> 00:34:00,880
electric fence. To it's right on a trail, right on

644
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:07,160
the Hiken trail. And so I send all this off

645
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,679
to them a couple of years ago. And then he

646
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,400
calls me up a couple of months ago and he says, hey,

647
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,280
this guy called me and told me about this place,

648
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,440
your same place. He said he used to go in there,

649
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,920
and he was in there a lot, and he got

650
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,199
acquainted with some dog men shamans.

651
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,639
Speaker 1: So are you are you comfortable with sharing the name

652
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:31,599
of the place or we Is it pretty we're locking

653
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:32,360
it down a little bit.

654
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to, because exactly you could go right,

655
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:38,559
I can tell you where's o. You guys could go

656
00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:40,440
right to the trail right now and see exactly what

657
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,760
this like. Oh, there's landmarks in there. When you when

658
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,079
you go down this trail off to the left, is

659
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:50,119
what looks like? I say, I always say it's King Midas,

660
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:52,679
But to me, it looks like the portrait of a face.

661
00:34:53,079 --> 00:34:56,000
And he's got a crown, and it's thirty forty feet tall,

662
00:34:56,079 --> 00:34:58,800
and it's on the side of the cliff. What it's

663
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,679
painted with. I have no idea how it's made. I

664
00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:03,639
have no idea. I don't even think humans made it.

665
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:12,079
Tell you truth, And it's in those pictures and and

666
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:14,280
and you just go a little bit farther when you

667
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,320
first go in there, a couple hundred feet in off

668
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,239
to the right. Remember it's off fence, and some of

669
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,360
it's electric fencing. They don't, they don't. You almost feel

670
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,760
like that they're saving you from something coming. You feel

671
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,920
that way. And so when you go in there, off

672
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,360
to the left, behind the fence is where they tore

673
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,960
down some branches, and so some branches are coming down.

674
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,320
And that's where I got the video of those heads.

675
00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:43,159
You see the brown head and the two red eyes.

676
00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:48,119
When I first started videotaping, and its eyes were solid green,

677
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,800
and those eyes videotaping, they changed the orange. And that's

678
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,559
when I went, WHOA, that is something right there. And

679
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:56,159
so I'm videotaping. I start whistling at it, come on out,

680
00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,400
come on out, And there's another one above it, and

681
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,280
the other one above it on the top of the branch.

682
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,199
It has its round eye. But then this other eye

683
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,199
turns into like what looks like a chevron stay and

684
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,719
it's got the big big in the in the middle.

685
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,559
And that's when so cup so like mister Denton, he

686
00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:23,800
told me that they look reptilian. And then Rob Provo

687
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,880
told me he thinks they're dog men, and no one

688
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,960
really can tell exactly what they are. But in that

689
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:33,639
in that video, that's the minute thirty two seconds, I'm

690
00:36:33,639 --> 00:36:39,119
whistling and at fifty five seconds here go oh right

691
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:41,440
after I whistle. So I want to get that checked out,

692
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,400
put that on a on a on a device to

693
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,000
see what what that looks like.

694
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you sent me I'm trying to remember you

695
00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:54,159
sent me a video that was about like thirty five

696
00:36:54,199 --> 00:37:00,320
seconds long. I'll have to look through through everything, but

697
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:04,599
do you how about maybe we take some time and

698
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,599
just kind of go through some of the photos that

699
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,239
you had sent because there's some really really interesting ones

700
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,280
here and see if there's maybe any context or stories

701
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,519
that go along with these. So I'm going to go ahead.

702
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:23,119
We did talk about that one. And then this is

703
00:37:23,199 --> 00:37:24,440
one of the track ones.

704
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 2: There was a few of these there, and if you

705
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,800
look at it, it looks I mean, it looks wider,

706
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,480
it looks like a bare foot, it doesn't look like

707
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,159
a shoe. And then he and then he drug its toes.

708
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,559
Looks like that they rolled its toes over and then

709
00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:41,119
drug the toes. It's bigger than it's bigger than my foot.

710
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:44,800
So I mean, I can't tell you that that squatch

711
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,199
for sure.

712
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: How long would you estimate that that lengths to be.

713
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:54,559
Speaker 2: It's probably about ten eleven inches maybe twelve the foot

714
00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:56,960
and then drug it. Then it turned it rolled its

715
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,719
toes over and looked like it drug them. That's what

716
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,679
it looks like, Okay.

717
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: And the location of that again was that's.

718
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 2: Right there in the middle of the trail, you know, Okay.

719
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:11,480
I don't have no reason to fake nothing, and I

720
00:38:11,519 --> 00:38:14,039
don't even. I'm not even good at the computer stuff anyway,

721
00:38:14,039 --> 00:38:16,840
I'm the old guy, and I don't I'm in I'm

722
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,559
really good at the computer stuff, so I can't even.

723
00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:22,320
I don't make no overlays. I haven't done no ai,

724
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,840
I haven't put nothing on top of anything and go

725
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,039
look it would look like this. These are all straight

726
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,039
photos off my p and I just wanted to share

727
00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:32,239
them because if these things are out there, we should

728
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:32,840
know about.

729
00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: It, oh absolutely, especially in an area like southern California

730
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,960
where you don't hear a lot. Thankfully, there's stuff like

731
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,280
Eli's documentary from Small Town Monsters that you mentioned earlier,

732
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,920
which is really really good and everyone should watch that

733
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:52,159
if you care about southern California.

734
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,679
Speaker 2: And you go in there farther. You go in there

735
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,840
a little bit farther, and you'll see it. There's a

736
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:58,320
looks like a sasquatch head, a big rock that's almost

737
00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:01,519
looks like it's carved. I thought it was a yetti

738
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:06,360
hiad And it's overlooking the cliff and it's overlooking everybody.

739
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,440
So there's these things out there, these carvings, big rock carvings,

740
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,639
and so they live there, and there's usually a cave

741
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,760
right next to the big rock carving. So I think

742
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,760
they're all in there living, and they come up close

743
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,239
to the fence, and I think they know that they're

744
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,679
you know that nothing's going to happen to them. With me,

745
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,639
I always take an ice chest full of food, and

746
00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:31,679
I always leave stuff out. I don't care if people

747
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:36,320
say about it. I leave bunch of stuff out here. Well,

748
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,400
because I heard that that's a good way to to,

749
00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:41,039
you know, to get to see them. And so what

750
00:39:41,079 --> 00:39:42,760
I do is when I when I first get there,

751
00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:45,639
I start going, it's loud, right, I'm pulling, and it's

752
00:39:45,639 --> 00:39:47,519
all that that you can hear it real loud. And

753
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:49,719
I got my kids with me, my wife, and we

754
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,760
go in there, and I usually give a couple of

755
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,960
hand signals that I made up. I do it every time.

756
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,079
I do these hand signals, and I come back to

757
00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:58,599
my mouth, I do this kind of thing and I

758
00:39:58,639 --> 00:40:00,679
point again, and then I go out there and I

759
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,199
leave them at these certain points, right, And then when

760
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,159
we come back and we turn around, it seems like

761
00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:08,760
that's when I get the pictures of stuff when we're

762
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,639
coming back, as they're probably out trying to get the

763
00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:14,360
stuff I left. Okay, right, But now we haven't been

764
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,960
in there in like six months because me and my

765
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,000
wife have been going through all this X rays and

766
00:40:20,039 --> 00:40:22,079
testing our blood and stuff because we haven't feeling good.

767
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,960
So so we haven't been going in there. We haven't

768
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,760
been going in there at all. We don't we can't.

769
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,880
We don't know if it's coming from there. We don't know.

770
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,719
But the best to staut there for now.

771
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry to hear you're dealing with health stuff, Jerry.

772
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,519
I totally understand that.

773
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: I seems like everybody does it, does this stuff, right,

774
00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:47,519
and so yeah, and I know we're doing man, Yeah,

775
00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:51,199
we'll be fine. So the last time I went in there,

776
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,440
they don't even wait. Now, you know, I'm going in there,

777
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,079
and as I go by the bushes there, I heard

778
00:40:57,079 --> 00:41:00,239
a grunt right, and I go, you know, I even

779
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,440
got away for me to go in there and put

780
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,239
them where I put them. You just want to now, right,

781
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,559
So I stop and I throw it over the fence.

782
00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:09,199
But yeah, now they're just grunting at me as I

783
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,559
go in there with my food.

784
00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:14,519
Speaker 1: That's wild, absolutely wild.

785
00:41:14,519 --> 00:41:17,079
Speaker 2: That's they're getting closer. Yeah, see this is a good

786
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:20,039
picture right here. See this, so this tree right here,

787
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,480
this tree is just demoed. I mean just tore up

788
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,880
like big five big branches on the ground and they

789
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,400
were broke, they were all snapped. There was no saw cuts,

790
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,079
there's no tire marks that go up to it, like

791
00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:34,639
a tractor hit or anything something demo did. And when

792
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:37,880
you look close, you can see a profile of a

793
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,719
face right there, and it's got an elongated head.

794
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,519
Speaker 1: Inside this. Yeah, it's very very interesting because you can

795
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:48,719
kind of see a slope up towards the top of

796
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,519
the silhouette. And yeah, that's that's pretty cool.

797
00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: I'll say it now. That so I'm minding a bunch

798
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,039
of pictures. I can't tell if they have elongated heads

799
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,400
or tone heads. Or they're using hats because check this out.

800
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,639
I got these pictures and they're wearing masks. They wear masks,

801
00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:11,800
they make Yeah, it's so weird. And I think it's

802
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,519
because I think I can tell what they look like

803
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:17,400
from other pictures I have. And then this one too, right,

804
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,079
you can see the side of the face right there.

805
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:22,199
You can see his his chin, his mouth, his nose,

806
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,039
his right eye, you can see his cheek right, and

807
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:28,679
then the other pictures he's not there in the far

808
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,280
back behind him, and that tree behind him, there's an

809
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,760
inscription on that tree that looks just like that face.

810
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:41,519
And yeah, really yep. And then just right below it

811
00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:43,599
on the other side, you can't see it as a rock,

812
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:47,920
a big rock. It looks like a lizard. I call

813
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,239
it dragon rock because it looks like a lizard, and

814
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,000
the other rocks next to it looks like its body.

815
00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:53,599
I don't think. I don't know if I sent to you,

816
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,159
and it's feet. And for the longest time, I kept thinking,

817
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:58,840
why does that look like a lizard? You know, and

818
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,679
that I knew the Indians were in there a lot, right,

819
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,960
And so when you when you get back and look

820
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,119
at the picture, because I've been documenting this stuff for

821
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:09,360
a couple of years. I've been in there now about

822
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,159
thirty times or more.

823
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: And Jerry, have you ever and you might not be

824
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,360
able to answer this, but have you ever found Petrick

825
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:21,519
Cliffs or anything back there?

826
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, there's well I know you're talking about petroglifs,

827
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,960
but there's there's a rock carving like a big bust

828
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,480
or there's a thirty foot bust of something. There's the

829
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:37,400
one I call Yetty heads, and there's dragon rock, and

830
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,440
then there's that inscription right there that the tree behind

831
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,360
them right there, And then I got on another tree

832
00:43:44,559 --> 00:43:46,880
a picture that looks like a spaceship and a four

833
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,960
legged creature crawling to it. Oh wow, Okay, I don't

834
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,679
know if I sent that to you or not, but

835
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,840
you can see that. Yeah. So there's like that, and

836
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,119
there's a lot of stuff where the Indians did live

837
00:43:58,199 --> 00:44:01,679
right there, and they have an old camp right there.

838
00:44:02,199 --> 00:44:04,800
So the Indian is really interesting. They were in the

839
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:05,400
whole area.

840
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,159
Speaker 1: So you're finding carvings. But sometimes people will find I

841
00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:12,039
know an Oregon they'll find this a lot where it's

842
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:17,119
actually like old drawings on rock face. I don't know

843
00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:19,039
if you've ever found anything like that. Those can be

844
00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:24,440
very interesting, but carvings are just as incredible. That's that's

845
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,159
some wild wild stuff. Let's see we got.

846
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: So this is weird. I mean, it's interesting to me

847
00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:36,119
because I think they did this. I think they did

848
00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:39,920
this because on the left looks like a female I say,

849
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,199
it's a female sasquatch, you know, and you see a

850
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,280
big booty and you come down. Yeah, you can see

851
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,800
the toes. You can see the toes right, and then

852
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,199
on the other side it looks like a male hugging

853
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,480
her right. And I think that they did this. I

854
00:44:56,519 --> 00:44:58,519
think they made this. This is one of their art

855
00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:04,320
work things that they do. The Yeah, it's the same trail.

856
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,119
You can see the fencing. You can see the electric fencing.

857
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:10,440
That's electric fencing. And I think this is a I

858
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,280
think they do this kind of work in there. You know,

859
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,639
it's a tree, but they do this. You can see

860
00:45:16,639 --> 00:45:19,639
there's there's like little inscriptions on what would be his leg.

861
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: Look down at the bottom.

862
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, on the bottom, there's some weird looking stuff right there.

863
00:45:24,599 --> 00:45:26,119
And if you look up you can almost see a

864
00:45:26,119 --> 00:45:29,639
couple of faces. But I think it's something that they

865
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,239
do to mark their area. And if you look in

866
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,320
the far back, look in the far back on the

867
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,679
would be my right side, you can see a little

868
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,639
arm hanging over and a face right there. Yep, right there,

869
00:45:41,679 --> 00:45:44,400
there's an arm hanging behind the tree and a little

870
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,599
face right there too. If something looks like something's looking

871
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:49,800
from behind the tree right there, do.

872
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: You know what kind of tree that is?

873
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,679
Speaker 2: Those trees are so weird. Some kind of oak tree.

874
00:45:55,119 --> 00:45:57,960
That's another thing too that that should be studied, because

875
00:45:58,159 --> 00:46:02,159
they're they're big, like you could crawl into them. There's

876
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:04,280
holes and most of these trees out there where you

877
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,360
could crawl into the bottom of it. Simple and like

878
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,000
the tree doesn't go down and grow like regular roots.

879
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,239
The tree forms a big circle right with the oak

880
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,559
with the middle open to dirt. But when it forms

881
00:46:18,559 --> 00:46:21,159
the circle, like the bark is going straight down as

882
00:46:21,199 --> 00:46:24,239
the roots, you know what I'm saying, Not like a

883
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,079
regular full not like a regular full trunk where these

884
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:30,239
roots go down and grow. And I would say it

885
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,840
would be nothing if it was on one kind of tree,

886
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,280
But it's on three different kinds of species of trees.

887
00:46:36,519 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay out.

888
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 2: There, which makes it interesting right that they're doing this

889
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,480
to these trees. Something about the there's a bunch of

890
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,360
eucalyptus trees there and I'm finding like a. There's this

891
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,920
one picture I have. It's a big nest thirty foot

892
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,320
up in the tree and it looks like a I

893
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,920
guess I showed there's a little tan being in it, right,

894
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,880
And I showed it to Lakota Indian over here and

895
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,320
he goes, oh, that's a little yeddy. I don't know

896
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,360
why he would tell me that thirty feet up in

897
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,880
the tree. But there's something about those the eucalyptus that

898
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,159
you know. It's poisonous to everybody. It's in vapor rud

899
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,199
right and small doses poisonous and it's even poisonous to

900
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,559
animals too. But I looked it up and bears, bears

901
00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:19,760
like to pull the pull the bark off it, and

902
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,079
they licked the pulp. It's salty, and I guess they'll

903
00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:24,880
get a little yeah, and they get a little buzz

904
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,440
off it. I guess I got video. I got it.

905
00:47:28,639 --> 00:47:30,920
I know I got a video. And you can hear

906
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,800
these birds. I think it's birds. I don't know what

907
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,440
it is, but they're laughing like crazy, and I'm looking

908
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,199
I'm playing right up the one tree where I see

909
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,440
things and you hear it.

910
00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 1: Ah to this area was wild.

911
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: I would love to get everything out. I'm not exactly

912
00:47:48,599 --> 00:47:50,800
sure how to get it, you know. I've been trying

913
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,199
to get out on Facebook Live, but I don't know

914
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,880
how to do that whole format, and I just keep

915
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:55,559
messing it up.

916
00:47:56,039 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 1: It's tricky. It's absolutely tricky.

917
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: I get it. I've done a couple of these already

918
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,400
with a couple of people, but not the biggest name.

919
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:06,519
As you're the biggest.

920
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,039
Speaker 1: It looks like, thank you, we got we got some

921
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:11,320
caves here.

922
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's that's that's what you're looking at. That's

923
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,000
just one rock, right, that's just one big cave. That's

924
00:48:18,039 --> 00:48:19,960
one big side of the hill. And there's a bunch

925
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,480
of caves, and man, I swear when you look at

926
00:48:23,559 --> 00:48:25,280
some of them real close, they don't even look like

927
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,000
their cave opening. It looks like something's big sitting.

928
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,159
Speaker 1: There on a bunch of the same area.

929
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same trail. We go down in there,

930
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,000
about three miles as far as I could walk with

931
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:38,679
my kids, you know, my little kids, and then we'd

932
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,679
come back and I get all this stuff I mean,

933
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,599
I'm tired of doing it. Excuse me, I'm tired of

934
00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:47,480
doing it because there's just a lot, really a lot

935
00:48:47,519 --> 00:48:49,960
of stuff I got. I got them holding pictures of

936
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,400
them holding that what looks like skulls, a big goat

937
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,360
skull wo or a cow skull. You know, I think

938
00:48:57,519 --> 00:49:01,880
somebody might be feeding these things in there, because you

939
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,519
think about it, it's not a big high deer population place, right.

940
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:10,199
I guess there are some deer there, but it's not

941
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,480
a high deer place. And I have evidence where I

942
00:49:12,519 --> 00:49:15,679
think they're feeding people are feeding. Somebody knows about this.

943
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 1: There has to be something that they're eating large, like

944
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,480
they need so so many calories. I mean, there's got

945
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:24,920
to be something that is their food source, right, Jerry.

946
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,039
So it's like, but yeah, so you you have a

947
00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:31,000
feeling that there's other people aware of this area and

948
00:49:31,079 --> 00:49:32,159
that they are feeding them.

949
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,519
Speaker 2: What people that the people that own it, they're pretty

950
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:38,880
much the richest people over there, and they have been

951
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,519
for a long time. That that could give it away

952
00:49:40,599 --> 00:49:42,760
right there, you know, Yeah, but they own all that,

953
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,079
all that, and they and they let everybody go in there.

954
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:48,400
But I think they're feeding them cows and like they

955
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,880
say there's evidence of cows in there. In fact, there's

956
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,440
there's some there's some places right where there are on

957
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:56,119
that trail where they run cows in there and you

958
00:49:56,159 --> 00:49:59,000
can see the cow poop. But I never see cows

959
00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:02,239
in there, but piles of cow poop all the time,

960
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,639
right and and h and around in that little area.

961
00:50:07,679 --> 00:50:09,639
There's still a couple of minds going. They were they

962
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,679
started in the past, going for gold and coal, you know,

963
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,719
and there's there's still a couple of little minds going.

964
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,719
So they're digging and digging and digging. Who knows exactly

965
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,119
where these things came from, if they if they've always

966
00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:28,079
been there, or why, but they're they're there. I guarantee

967
00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:30,079
you that this is just a weird picture I found

968
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,079
because when you look at it, it looks like a

969
00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:38,880
spirit coming through the trail. Looks like, yeah, there a

970
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:44,400
woman's face blowing down the trail. Dude, weird, same trail.

971
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,840
So I like the fasquatch stuff, But like I said,

972
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,119
I got a lot of paranormal stuff. So I like

973
00:50:53,199 --> 00:50:57,639
that one right here, this black one, but one that's weird.

974
00:50:58,639 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the story of you? I saw that, and

975
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,239
I was like, what is the story behind this that

976
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:03,280
is I don't.

977
00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:05,199
Speaker 2: Know, man, that's why I found it in my pictures.

978
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, same area.

979
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,199
Speaker 2: Like can say that this one guy he claims that,

980
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:17,280
I said, thirteen years ago, he was in there, spent

981
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:18,760
a lot of time in there, and he told this

982
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,719
fellow that I know that he got in contact with

983
00:51:22,199 --> 00:51:27,679
dog Man Shaman dog Man, that's what he said. I'm

984
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:33,840
not you know there, right, I'm not the dog Man

985
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:34,679
Shaman's in there.

986
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:39,679
Speaker 1: But the fact that other people are having weird things

987
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,079
happen in the same area is enough for me too.

988
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 2: You know.

989
00:51:44,039 --> 00:51:45,679
Speaker 1: That's that tells you something.

990
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, yeah, Because say, if you see you can

991
00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:52,719
see a picture of a sasquatch or something out on

992
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,280
the back of a truck or out on a swing

993
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,239
or something where there's no guiding, that's probably not sasquatch, right.

994
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,440
But but if people are having sightings a lot of

995
00:51:59,519 --> 00:52:01,559
and you get sightings and you have pictures that, hey,

996
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:05,079
that might look like a sasquatch, it's probably possible. It

997
00:52:05,159 --> 00:52:10,199
is one. It's possible. There's already sightings in there. So

998
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,199
and and you know what, I apparently over the years

999
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,119
that they the rangers have six confirmed.

1000
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: Sightings six confirmed sightings by.

1001
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 2: The Range Sasquatch in there over the years in.

1002
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,519
Speaker 1: This general area. Gotcha, Okay, I like wild.

1003
00:52:28,199 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: I like this picture here. It's because when you look over,

1004
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,239
it looks like something's peaking up over the bushes. There's

1005
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,920
probably two of them, and the one on my right

1006
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,400
you can see his eyes a little bit, and the

1007
00:52:39,519 --> 00:52:45,159
other one is just dark. But this is this isn't

1008
00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:47,639
a picture. I wouldn't claim nothing, really, I just wanted

1009
00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:49,480
to show it to you because I think that it

1010
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:54,480
is something sitting there. But there's some good yes there are.

1011
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's a few of them coming up. I'm

1012
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,880
like this, some interesting stories I think coming up. So

1013
00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:02,320
what was the deal with this this guy?

1014
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 2: This is why? This is? This is cool. So we

1015
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,480
were we were living and and this is the this

1016
00:53:08,679 --> 00:53:10,280
is the one like when you first walk in there,

1017
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,480
over the fence off to the right, the branches are

1018
00:53:13,519 --> 00:53:16,400
hanging down right, they're broken. And so we were leaving

1019
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,639
and there's people walking back and forth hiking, and I

1020
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,039
see this thing and it's got see it here, it's

1021
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:24,960
got green eyes. You can see it. You see a

1022
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,480
big brown face here in the middle. That's why. I

1023
00:53:27,559 --> 00:53:30,360
also sent you this picture of this branch system with

1024
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,679
nothing in it so you could see that there's nothing there.

1025
00:53:34,199 --> 00:53:36,760
So on this one right here, yeah, yeah, I sent

1026
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,719
that to you so you can see that there's nothing there,

1027
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,320
and this one here there is something here. So that

1028
00:53:42,519 --> 00:53:46,320
brown face ahead right there, it's got green eyes. And

1029
00:53:46,679 --> 00:53:49,519
after I started filming it, they turned to orange. In

1030
00:53:49,679 --> 00:53:52,800
my video. Wow, well they turned to orange and you

1031
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,559
can kind of see his little nose and stuff. I

1032
00:53:54,599 --> 00:53:57,480
think he was sniffing at us, like trying to sniff

1033
00:53:57,519 --> 00:54:02,639
the air. And above him is another one on the

1034
00:54:02,679 --> 00:54:04,679
other side of the branch, just above him, and you

1035
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,440
can see like the regular round eye it would be

1036
00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:10,039
his left eye, but then his right eye right here

1037
00:54:10,599 --> 00:54:12,239
you can see it turn into what looks like a

1038
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:16,280
reptilian thing shape of an eye, like a big chevron.

1039
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,519
So he made a round eye and then he made

1040
00:54:18,519 --> 00:54:19,239
this eye different.

1041
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: Interesting any idea? How so if we're looking at the center,

1042
00:54:25,679 --> 00:54:28,559
what one with the two eyes, how big that is?

1043
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:29,320
Any idea?

1044
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,199
Speaker 2: I think that that heads the same size as ours? Okay, wow,

1045
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:39,079
probably right, yeah, I think so. But also in this picture,

1046
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,800
the same picture of the video, off to the side,

1047
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,039
you can see a skull and a vertebrae, So there

1048
00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:49,840
might be a skeleton land right there. It looked like

1049
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,480
it looked like there was a skull and a little

1050
00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:54,519
and you can see his vertebrae. And this only in

1051
00:54:54,599 --> 00:54:57,239
this video. It's not nothing else. I take a lot

1052
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,440
of pictures of this area and it's gone. So if

1053
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,840
they could be dragging this thing around with them like

1054
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,119
a and it could be it could be a human,

1055
00:55:06,159 --> 00:55:08,480
it could be a squatch, it could be an ancient

1056
00:55:08,519 --> 00:55:10,840
cave man that they pulled out the caves. Who knows

1057
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,639
what it is, but it looks like a human skull

1058
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,039
and a vertebrae.

1059
00:55:14,599 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: There in a place where listeners can watch the video.

1060
00:55:19,079 --> 00:55:23,039
Speaker 2: That it would be on Jerry Broandenberg Facebook. Everything that

1061
00:55:23,159 --> 00:55:24,519
I put up, I put up rick there.

1062
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

1063
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 2: So I'll make sure that when you can hear a

1064
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,440
part the second time I whistled three times at it,

1065
00:55:31,559 --> 00:55:35,320
I can do right now like that at it. It goes, oh.

1066
00:55:36,679 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: Oh no, dude, that's wild, okay.

1067
00:55:40,199 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 2: And what's weird about it is people were coming more.

1068
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,840
People were coming right and they watched the felt they

1069
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,719
see you filming, They're all like getting behind you, right,

1070
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,599
and so there are a lot of people were coming.

1071
00:55:49,639 --> 00:55:51,280
I didn't want them to see these, so I shut

1072
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,239
it down and we walked out and left. And as

1073
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,320
we left, I start thinking, man, I just took a

1074
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:02,519
video of juvenile sasquat much, you know, And it's weird

1075
00:56:02,599 --> 00:56:06,440
that you that you get passive about it and walk away.

1076
00:56:07,159 --> 00:56:09,800
That's weird. That's weird. And that's happened a couple of

1077
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,119
times out there. So the next day we went back

1078
00:56:12,159 --> 00:56:15,719
and put up trail cams. Oh, ok, you'll probably see those.

1079
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,480
So this is what this is why I kept going

1080
00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:21,119
back out there. So say the first time we went there,

1081
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,280
this is what happened. The first time we went there.

1082
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,280
I was leaving stuff out like we were, and as

1083
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,960
we were coming back, I had a feeling. I look

1084
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,519
over my left shoulder and there was a clear spot

1085
00:56:31,679 --> 00:56:33,840
right there and I saw a black blur running down

1086
00:56:34,199 --> 00:56:37,360
the hill and it was probably about one hundred feet

1087
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,000
away from us, and it was running towards us at

1088
00:56:39,039 --> 00:56:41,440
a slant, and it was about four feet tall, and

1089
00:56:41,559 --> 00:56:44,360
it was just a black blur for about fifteen twenty

1090
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,760
feet and disappeared. And I didn't know what to tell

1091
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,480
my wife. I don't know what till I saw. So

1092
00:56:48,559 --> 00:56:50,519
I went home and drew it. But then I went

1093
00:56:50,599 --> 00:56:52,719
home and I watched the guy's video again and he

1094
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,519
talks about he saw black blur running and it came

1095
00:56:56,559 --> 00:56:58,840
to the fence and stopped, and he said it was

1096
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,320
a juvenile sasquat and it jumped the fence and took

1097
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,119
off again. And I was like, I don't remember remember

1098
00:57:04,199 --> 00:57:07,159
really him saying that before I went out there, but

1099
00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:12,199
there was, you know. And so we got come back

1100
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,639
a week later and we're taking pictures. I'm leaving stuff out,

1101
00:57:16,199 --> 00:57:19,440
and we didn't really see nothing with our eyes. But man,

1102
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,960
that I got like four or five good things from

1103
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,840
that second trip. This right here in the original picture,

1104
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,559
you can see the top of my son's head because

1105
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:29,119
we're hiking. He's on the hiking trail. You can see

1106
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:30,519
the top of the head. And then over the here

1107
00:57:30,599 --> 00:57:32,719
in this corner you see this thing. To me, it

1108
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,239
looks like a gorilla on all fours with the It's

1109
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,079
got a big conical head. You can see the butt

1110
00:57:38,119 --> 00:57:39,719
where it looked like it was sitting down in the dirt,

1111
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,840
same color as of the dirt on the ground. It's

1112
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,280
got dirt on its butt, maybe a little tail. I

1113
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:45,559
don't know if it's got a little tail they or

1114
00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:48,039
not a little stuffy tail. This is the one I

1115
00:57:48,119 --> 00:57:49,320
sent the dude.

1116
00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:53,239
Speaker 1: And the MK it's it's it's really weird. So just

1117
00:57:53,719 --> 00:57:58,079
so this is a this is a picture that you took, Jerry, correct, Yeah,

1118
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,079
I took okay, and uh, the same area that we've

1119
00:58:02,119 --> 00:58:08,000
been talking about. And man, so any idea of like

1120
00:58:08,159 --> 00:58:11,760
it's let's say, if it is positioned like a gorilla,

1121
00:58:12,519 --> 00:58:15,800
so you've got the head over to the right up

1122
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,079
top and you can kind of see the crest. Any

1123
00:58:19,159 --> 00:58:22,039
idea how tall up or how high off the ground

1124
00:58:22,119 --> 00:58:22,400
that is?

1125
00:58:23,199 --> 00:58:25,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, so when you go up to the fence right there,

1126
00:58:25,719 --> 00:58:29,079
that's a good two foot down, so there's you're probably

1127
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:32,920
not seeing about sixteen inches of his legs still, Oh

1128
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,360
my goodness. So that nine foot if it stands up,

1129
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,119
eight nine foot of it, okay, a.

1130
00:58:40,239 --> 00:58:43,119
Speaker 1: Monster estimate eight to nine foot.

1131
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:47,199
Speaker 2: And then so there's a picture before this. There's also

1132
00:58:47,239 --> 00:58:49,000
a picture before this. I'm not sure if I sent

1133
00:58:49,079 --> 00:58:51,480
to you, but the picture before it shows that you

1134
00:58:51,559 --> 00:58:54,280
can see like the little slant of its back and

1135
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,480
it's down, so it might have just stood up. I

1136
00:58:56,519 --> 00:58:58,880
think it was laying down when we come walking by it,

1137
00:58:59,239 --> 00:59:02,440
and it stood up or got up on all fours.

1138
00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:02,880
Right there.

1139
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,519
Speaker 1: How far away from you was this.

1140
00:59:06,519 --> 00:59:11,239
Speaker 2: Twenty thirty feet? Wow? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, we're on the trail.

1141
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,159
You know, the trail is a little bit wide there.

1142
00:59:13,519 --> 00:59:18,239
It's probably about twenty foot wide right there on the

1143
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,360
on if you're walking up, the right side is a

1144
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,719
sheer wall cliff going up, and then this side is

1145
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,960
the fence, and where he's on the other side of

1146
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,679
the fence usually it's a drop off on that side,

1147
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,079
big thirty foot drop off. So you can't you can't

1148
00:59:32,119 --> 00:59:33,360
get to a lot of this stuff. I mean, you

1149
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,119
could go dredging through there, but I don't know if

1150
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:35,880
you get in trouble or not.

1151
00:59:37,039 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: So then it's like it it makes you ask, well,

1152
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,559
why do they have these fences up in the first place.

1153
00:59:42,679 --> 00:59:44,440
Is it a thing where they're trying to keep people

1154
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,519
away from a certain area or they're trying to keep

1155
00:59:46,719 --> 00:59:50,599
things in a certain area, right you know, Jerry Dude,

1156
00:59:50,639 --> 00:59:53,719
that's wild stuff, man, that is That's one of the

1157
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,159
weirdest things I've seen in a while.

1158
00:59:55,679 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 2: There's a little lake there. Yeah, to me, it looks

1159
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,360
like a sasquatch. This was the second trip.

1160
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,239
Speaker 1: I'm having issues explaining it to be anything else, you

1161
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,440
know what I mean. It's weird. What year was that?

1162
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:19,239
Speaker 2: This is that picture right there? Was taking eleven, twenty four?

1163
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:20,360
Twenty four.

1164
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: Okay, Wow, that's recent. Yeah, okay, wild stuff, Jerry. Okay,

1165
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,519
So let's let's continue here.

1166
01:00:28,639 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 2: So this is strange too, Okay. So you see that

1167
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,400
it look it looks like about three different faces up

1168
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,159
in there. So this is up in the tree that

1169
01:00:37,239 --> 01:00:39,119
you can lift this tree, and it looks like a

1170
01:00:39,199 --> 01:00:41,800
big nest is sitting right here, right. So this thing

1171
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,599
here looked different. It looked way different. Looked like a

1172
01:00:45,639 --> 01:00:47,760
little brown teddy bear sitting there. You can see its

1173
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,639
face and it's topped its head and down to its

1174
01:00:50,679 --> 01:00:54,920
shoulders probably right. So I came up and I'm videotaping it,

1175
01:00:55,239 --> 01:00:59,519
and it's shape shifted in my video to this other thing,

1176
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:02,199
so you can see it shape shifting. Like. So all

1177
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,519
the bark on the trees are stripped. There's no bark

1178
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,079
left on the ucalyptus tree, on none of the branches.

1179
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,119
That's where I started looking at, right, And if you

1180
01:01:10,199 --> 01:01:11,880
look close in the middle. You can see these things,

1181
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:16,280
they'll teeth. It's shape shifting, literally, shape shifting as we

1182
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:16,760
look at it.

1183
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,159
Speaker 1: So I track down on the video they can see it.

1184
01:01:21,079 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 2: I didn't put that video up. I didn't believe put that.

1185
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:24,239
I haven't put that video.

1186
01:01:24,599 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got you. I probably might not watch it.

1187
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can see it. You can see it shape

1188
01:01:29,719 --> 01:01:31,679
shifting in the video. It goes from what I what

1189
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,880
we saw to this other thing. Now when it gets

1190
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,360
to this other thing, you can almost see it what

1191
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,840
it's turning into. So just one hundred feet up on

1192
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,599
the trail is a bust of what looks like this

1193
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,079
thing and it's like thirty forty foot tall. Yeah, like

1194
01:01:48,239 --> 01:01:50,840
someone carved a big head of this thing. Right, Like

1195
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,039
they're like they're celebrating it. Look or they're telling or

1196
01:01:54,079 --> 01:01:57,800
they're telling this thing look you live here, you belong here.

1197
01:01:58,519 --> 01:02:01,199
Speaker 3: Or no, they're telling people, Hey, this thing is here.

1198
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,280
You might want to be aware this is Yeah. I

1199
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,840
send you that picture too, so you can I send

1200
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,079
you the different suit.

1201
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:14,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh I think we might have some Okay, so

1202
01:02:14,599 --> 01:02:16,119
we got this. Oh that's weird.

1203
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:22,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is this is really weird because if

1204
01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:24,320
you saw it in the bigger picture you really see

1205
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,440
a lot a lot better. So it's right next to

1206
01:02:26,519 --> 01:02:28,519
that yetti head that I say, it's a yetti heead,

1207
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,599
and there's two more carvings behind it, and one carving

1208
01:02:31,679 --> 01:02:33,880
looks like these guys. So you can see this one

1209
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,480
kind of right. It's looking over the bushes at us.

1210
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,360
There might be one behind it, but in the bigger

1211
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,159
picture there's another one sitting there, squat just sitting there,

1212
01:02:42,519 --> 01:02:46,559
squatting like a smaller one. I call it Mount Krushmore

1213
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,159
because you see the fake heads right, or the carved heads,

1214
01:02:51,679 --> 01:02:53,679
and then you see the three maybe three of these

1215
01:02:53,719 --> 01:02:57,360
guys there with it, So these are carvers. They must

1216
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:58,440
be carvers.

1217
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,079
Speaker 1: Rock carb I think we can.

1218
01:03:01,159 --> 01:03:05,159
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's that's the forty foot bust.

1219
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: That thing looks just like the wild It reminds me

1220
01:03:08,039 --> 01:03:12,000
of the New Hampshire. They used to have something called

1221
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,880
the Old Man on the mountain, but then the rock

1222
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,239
fell away from the mountain side, so you can't see

1223
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,519
it anymore. But that is just incredible.

1224
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,599
Speaker 2: Do you think that that's Egyptian?

1225
01:03:24,239 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. Man can definitely see forehead, eyes, nose, lips,

1226
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,000
and it really really makes you wonder, doesn't it.

1227
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, besides it's the profile. Yeah, definitely profile. I haven't

1228
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,320
been over there. I've been trying to get over there

1229
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,719
to it. I need to drone it. I need to

1230
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,559
stick a drone on it. That would be cool. It's amazing. Yeah,

1231
01:03:45,599 --> 01:03:49,159
it was right on the trail. The trail. I'll give

1232
01:03:49,199 --> 01:03:51,920
you an open invitation to come hang out with us.

1233
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:53,679
Come to my house. I'll take you there.

1234
01:03:54,159 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: I'll keep it in mind, man, I will.

1235
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:57,119
Speaker 2: I'll pay for everything.

1236
01:03:57,199 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: Buddy, we're rocking here. We got it looks like we

1237
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,079
got something in the rocks here.

1238
01:04:05,639 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just a far away let me see which

1239
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,760
one is it? Oh yeah, okay, this the wind. I'm

1240
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,280
trying to see it myself. It's kind of a little

1241
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,480
bit small for me. That's just I think it's a

1242
01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:17,840
little a little shadow. That's probably it looks to me.

1243
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:22,960
It looks like something sitting there. But yeah, we should

1244
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:23,880
probably go by that one.

1245
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,519
Speaker 1: Okay, So we got and then something we haven't really

1246
01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:32,519
talked about yet. Yeah, so you've do you have orb

1247
01:04:32,559 --> 01:04:33,960
activity in the triage?

1248
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,599
Speaker 2: I can't see him with my I can't see them,

1249
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:38,880
but they keep popping up on my phone and you

1250
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,320
know a lot of people say, well, that's just a

1251
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,960
thing off your phone, But I don't get them nowhere else.

1252
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,320
I only get them there. When I take pictures there,

1253
01:04:47,519 --> 01:04:49,280
they come up on my phone, and I take pictures

1254
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,519
of other places. I don't get these things. But this

1255
01:04:51,679 --> 01:04:54,679
one's in the shade too. This one's also in the shade.

1256
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,360
If you see the bigger picture, you see my son walking.

1257
01:04:57,519 --> 01:05:00,360
He's like six years old. He's walking in this thing

1258
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,199
is right next to him, and it's in the shade.

1259
01:05:03,599 --> 01:05:07,239
There's there's no light coming through there. And to me,

1260
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,920
it looks like a little face that's like the profile

1261
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,440
of a face and looks like it's whistling.

1262
01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: And yeah it does, doesn't that right next to him?

1263
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:20,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's right next to him. And it was just

1264
01:05:20,239 --> 01:05:22,320
a weird picture. You know. I can't prove that it's

1265
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,800
an ORB, of course, but I guess say, I only

1266
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:32,840
get him there on my phone, and he's weird.

1267
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:33,119
Speaker 3: Man.

1268
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you see the bigger picture, it looks a

1269
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:37,840
lot better.

1270
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:42,559
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Jarry, you are you are dealing with some really,

1271
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,360
really weird stuff. Do you think anyone else is checking

1272
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:50,880
out this area currently like you are? Or I guess

1273
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,320
you did mention there could be someone feeding them. We

1274
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:53,760
don't know.

1275
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're being fair. You have the pictures

1276
01:05:59,159 --> 01:06:03,400
of the what looks like a sasquatch, a big sasquatch's face.

1277
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,719
I said I sent you before because I think I

1278
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:11,119
sent you four pictures because I had them in concession right,

1279
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,360
consecutive one, two, three, four, and I was taking pictures

1280
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,920
of this cave. And when you when you look at

1281
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:22,480
these pictures, oh, they're so weird. It looks like there's

1282
01:06:22,559 --> 01:06:25,079
something eating a foot. It looks and it looks like

1283
01:06:25,159 --> 01:06:27,920
a bear. I'm getting pictures of what looks like grizzly

1284
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:32,800
bears really in the in these caves. Yeah, I say

1285
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,559
they're grizzly bears. They might be black beards, but I

1286
01:06:34,599 --> 01:06:38,480
say they're big grizzly bears. But then something, something has

1287
01:06:38,599 --> 01:06:42,880
these things there and they're feeding them too, So it

1288
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,599
looks like to me, it looks like a human tibia, fhibia,

1289
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:47,639
bone and foot.

1290
01:06:49,679 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm looking through the email you sent with

1291
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,119
all this stuff. I'm not seeing it. It might be

1292
01:06:55,280 --> 01:07:00,719
saying like if you if you send that particular one

1293
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,199
that I can I can edit it in.

1294
01:07:03,199 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, it shows I got behind you. Yeah, it's

1295
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,920
it shows what looks like a little bear is eating

1296
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:25,599
a person's foot, and it even it might even be

1297
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:30,239
it might even look like a corn pant. But then

1298
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,159
that looks like there's a mama bear behind it. The

1299
01:07:33,239 --> 01:07:35,800
outline the profile of a mama bear, big grizzly bear.

1300
01:07:36,159 --> 01:07:38,159
And then you also see it's the big leg and

1301
01:07:38,239 --> 01:07:41,719
Paul hanging over the side, right. But when you look

1302
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:46,280
up in the corner, there's this big face, a big face.

1303
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,880
It looks like a yetti face, bigfoot's face. And I

1304
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,960
had four consecutive pictures, so first it's looking down. All

1305
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:57,840
pictures are different because it's consecutive. He's moving around a

1306
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:02,480
little bit, excuse me, and and he's looked like he's

1307
01:08:02,559 --> 01:08:04,880
doing his business. He's feeding something, right, But then the

1308
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,199
last picture it looks like it looks up and looks

1309
01:08:07,239 --> 01:08:11,639
at me. Okay, I can in the fourth picture you

1310
01:08:11,679 --> 01:08:13,960
can see one eyes looking at me and one eyed shut.

1311
01:08:14,599 --> 01:08:17,119
But this thing is changing. And I'm not supposed to

1312
01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:19,119
have this, I guarantee, I'm not supposed to have No

1313
01:08:19,159 --> 01:08:20,439
one's supposed to have this footage.

1314
01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: That's wow. So hopefully we can put that in this interview.

1315
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,840
If not, this is a good example of why you

1316
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,800
need to be following along Jerry on Facebook because he's

1317
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,000
got a lot of stuff on there that we probably

1318
01:08:34,039 --> 01:08:36,439
didn't even get to go into today, and you can

1319
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,159
follow along with he's posting photos and all sorts of

1320
01:08:39,199 --> 01:08:39,680
good stuff.

1321
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,359
Speaker 2: So yeah, come back too if you want me to

1322
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:42,800
come back.

1323
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 1: But Jerry, this has been This has been a really

1324
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,680
fun conversation about an area that we don't really talk

1325
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,920
about a lot, and I think it's important to make

1326
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,760
sure people are talking about areas like that. So thank

1327
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,840
you so much for coming on the show. I want

1328
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,840
to make sure that you're able to just just share

1329
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,039
for a few minutes, if you would. What are ways

1330
01:09:05,159 --> 01:09:10,520
that people can fall along with with stuff that you're

1331
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:14,119
documenting in this area. And also if there's a person

1332
01:09:14,199 --> 01:09:17,159
where they're like, I know where he's talking about. I've

1333
01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:19,239
had stuff going on there too, and I would like

1334
01:09:19,319 --> 01:09:20,680
to talk to them. Is there a way they can

1335
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:22,279
reach out to you, like through email?

1336
01:09:23,199 --> 01:09:26,319
Speaker 2: If you guys email me through that Dulton Inspections gmail

1337
01:09:26,399 --> 01:09:28,560
dot com. I'll get back to you. Tell me what

1338
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,319
you want to talk to me about. I'll tell you

1339
01:09:30,359 --> 01:09:33,039
anything you want to know about this place. I'd say

1340
01:09:34,039 --> 01:09:38,199
for for uh, someone's like an important research or whatever,

1341
01:09:39,119 --> 01:09:41,399
we can probably get into it. You know, I wouldn't

1342
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:45,119
mind taking someone over there else, someone else, you know,

1343
01:09:45,239 --> 01:09:47,239
because I don't. I don't get off the trail because

1344
01:09:47,239 --> 01:09:49,000
I'm with my kids and my wife all the time.

1345
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,000
So I'm not going to take them off the trail

1346
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,840
and there because you know, if they might try to

1347
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:58,920
get me to come off the trail, it's true. Yeah,

1348
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,880
but if I got I'm there in there with another

1349
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:06,520
man that knows, you know, that knows what what's going on,

1350
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,520
we can probably we can probably get off the trail

1351
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:09,920
and get back in there and see what's happening.

1352
01:10:10,039 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha. So email Dalton Inspections at gmail dot com

1353
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,359
and I'll put that in the show notes, and then uh,

1354
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,279
Facebook your profile Jerry Brandenburg, and I'll have that link

1355
01:10:20,319 --> 01:10:25,039
too so people can see what you're posting. But yeah, good,

1356
01:10:25,239 --> 01:10:27,560
good stuff, Jerry. I wish you the best with with

1357
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,680
the health issues that you guys are going through. I'm

1358
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,840
going through some myself, and I hope that that is

1359
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,560
quickly figured out and quickly resolved for you guys.

1360
01:10:37,079 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that, thanks for being thanks

1361
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:43,600
for selling my pictures. That's really what I want to do,

1362
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,800
is to sew some pictures, you know, and tell people

1363
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,239
about it. But it's hard. I got to figure out

1364
01:10:48,279 --> 01:10:50,079
myself how to do it so I can really get

1365
01:10:50,119 --> 01:10:52,479
into it, and so I can't. Absolutely.

1366
01:10:53,239 --> 01:10:56,159
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

1367
01:10:56,279 --> 01:10:59,439
around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, man, I

1368
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,359
would love to get out in those woods and experience

1369
01:11:02,399 --> 01:11:06,840
it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can.

1370
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,520
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

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1372
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,680
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1373
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1374
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1375
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1376
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1377
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1378
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1379
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1380
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1381
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1382
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1383
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1387
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1389
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a little help with the cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla.

1390
01:12:36,279 --> 01:12:38,520
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

1391
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,840
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

1392
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,600
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

1393
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,479
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

1394
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,760
a National park ranger, a forestryt worker who's been told

1395
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:55,199
to stay quiet, if you're a pilot who's seen something

1396
01:12:55,319 --> 01:12:58,199
strange down on the ground, or if you're with the

1397
01:12:58,359 --> 01:13:02,239
FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled

1398
01:13:02,319 --> 01:13:05,119
upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if

1399
01:13:05,159 --> 01:13:08,720
you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's

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heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense, if

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you're in the logging industry, on a remote oil field,

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or a trucker with government contracts, and you've had something

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happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

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a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

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contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

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If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

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spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

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or if you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or

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anything with clearance, and you've seen what the public hasn't,

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then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

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You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

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carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

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We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

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you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

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Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

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bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

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is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

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enjoyed this episode, please be sure to subscribe to the

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channel on YouTube. Hit the Bell so you don't miss

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the next episode and share this with a friend who's

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into mysteries, monsters, or the unexplained. And if you're listening

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to us on Spotify or Apple Podcast, please follow the

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because all that helps more people discover the show. And remember,

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if you or someone you know has had a Bigfoot sighting,

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please I'd love to hear from you, so email me

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at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's start

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the conversation. If you haven't gotten a chance yet, check

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out our membership community over at www dot Bigfoot Society

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podcast dot com and that's where you can hear tomorrow's

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episode today early and ad free and members only episodes

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every week. Also, it's a place to connect with other

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people that are into the Bigfoot subject as much as

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you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot

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Society until next time, keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

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and never stop asking what else might be out there?

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And see you in the woods.