WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.639 --> 00:00:19.399 Welcome friends, podcasts tacky. Now I have to help people 2 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:21.440 with my music, like your family. 3 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:26.199 No, the guy who brought you Talladega Nights, knock duc 4 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:31.559 in super Bad, invite you to meet Dewey Cocks Walk Car. 5 00:00:33.479 --> 00:00:37.840 It's some devil's music this holiday season. 6 00:00:37.960 --> 00:00:39.479 There's a rift between the Beatles. 7 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:41.159 I've got a song about an octopus. 8 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:46.439 I like the other one, walk Hard The Dewey Cox 9 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:50.320 story rated R. Welcome to a movie film commentary track. 10 00:00:50.359 --> 00:00:53.399 My name is Zachie Hassan. And you don't want none 11 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:54.000 of this, Brian. 12 00:00:55.359 --> 00:00:56.560 It kind of sounds like I do. 13 00:00:57.439 --> 00:00:59.359 We're gonna be watching this movie and talking through it. 14 00:00:59.479 --> 00:01:01.119 You don't want to do this, Brian. 15 00:01:01.320 --> 00:01:02.960 I don't know. It sounds kind of fun to me. 16 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:04.480 Let me in, Let me in. I want to try 17 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:04.760 with you. 18 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:07.120 It's the most fun you can have, Brian. But you 19 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:07.879 don't want none of this? 20 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:14.040 Are you sure about that? Oh? 21 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:16.200 Man, I'm so excited to do this commentary. 22 00:01:16.439 --> 00:01:16.719 Need to. 23 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:18.879 I haven't watched this in a while, and this was 24 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:21.239 really fun to revisit and I was even thinking, oh, 25 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:22.599 this is going to be so much fun to talk 26 00:01:22.599 --> 00:01:23.439 about with Zachi. 27 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:24.640 Yes. 28 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:28.000 So you know, people often ask like, what are the 29 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:32.439 criteria we use to pick the movies that we do 30 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:37.519 for our commentaries, And there's a variety of reasons, and occasionally, 31 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:40.680 for me, there's a little bit of like, here's something 32 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:44.519 that's like really special to me, and I'm hoping the 33 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:48.000 rest of the world will appreciate it because I like 34 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:48.400 it too. 35 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:49.359 Mm hmmmmm. 36 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:53.680 This is definitely one of those movies because as I 37 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:55.799 was looking back, and I remember this when it came out, 38 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:57.040 but it didn't do very well. 39 00:01:57.319 --> 00:01:59.000 Nope, and this is a total. 40 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:03.239 Cult film and I think with good reason, which we 41 00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:06.599 can get into, but I think for those same reasons, 42 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:10.000 that's why the people who this is made for will 43 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:10.520 adore it. 44 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:15.039 Yeah, and I'd like to believe that there is a 45 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:19.080 sizeable overlap, you know that Venn diagram of people who 46 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:21.360 would like this movie and people who listen to the 47 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:26.520 movie Film podcast. Totally totally, So you know, hey, this 48 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:29.680 is walk Hard, the Dewey Cox story, and it's been 49 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:32.080 in the back of my mind. I'm one of these days, 50 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:34.080 right And then of course as we are recording this, 51 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:37.319 we're in the lead up to the release of the 52 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:42.360 music bio pick Michael about Michael Jackson, And so as 53 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:44.400 soon as I heard that movie is coming, I was like, well, 54 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:46.800 we'll it pass the Dewey Cox test. 55 00:02:47.159 --> 00:02:50.479 Which we tend to do with pretty much every musical 56 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:52.800 bio pick these days, right, And it. 57 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:55.400 Feels like many people do that, and even I. 58 00:02:55.840 --> 00:02:58.240 See in reviews or listen to podcast reviews, and Walk 59 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:01.000 Hard does come up as some sort of measuring stick, 60 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:01.520 you know, like. 61 00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:04.039 Oh, did it do this trope? Did it do that trope? 62 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:07.840 It falls into the walk Hard trap, and it feels 63 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:11.479 like then biopicks were trying to like subvert it a 64 00:03:11.479 --> 00:03:11.800 little bit. 65 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:14.039 You know, you had that Bruce Springsteen one that came out. 66 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:16.000 It's like, no, no, no, this isn't like he stops and 67 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:17.560 thinks about his whole life and then we you know, 68 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:19.879 go through all the beats like this is just a 69 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:21.719 moment in Bruce Springsteen's life. 70 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:23.199 It felt like they were trying to do. 71 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:25.960 That deliberately, trying to avoid the Dewey Cos. 72 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:30.159 Yeah, where's Michael looks like I'm like rubbing my hands together. 73 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:33.080 I know, and we don't know as we record this, 74 00:03:33.159 --> 00:03:35.280 if for all we know, we will be entirely surprised. 75 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:39.159 But you know, ultimately all This is to say that 76 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:44.080 walk Hard is one of the most pointed and I 77 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:51.080 would say reverential looks at the solid tropes that undergird music, 78 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:54.759 biopicks and it, and it pokes fun at them, but 79 00:03:55.080 --> 00:04:00.400 you know, affectionately, I agree totally. You know, so well, 80 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:02.719 we're watching walk Hard from two thousand and seven. If 81 00:04:02.719 --> 00:04:04.120 you want to watch along with us, you certainly can 82 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:06.400 do that. If you don't have the movie available, which 83 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:08.719 as we said, I don't think we'd be surprised by 84 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:11.599 because it didn't do particularly well. That's okay. Hopefully we 85 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:13.240 keep the conversation interesting enough. 86 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:13.879 You know. 87 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:17.560 Actually I thought I saw there's an extended version that 88 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:18.560 is two hours long. 89 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:20.120 This version is about ninety minutes. 90 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:22.560 Yeah, and just out of curiosity because I do like 91 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:24.759 this movie. I was like, oh, you know, I would 92 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:26.720 love to see the bonus scenes and maybe it'll be 93 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:29.199 like a five dollars Blu ray or something, you know, 94 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:32.360 but no, it's like eighty dollars. Like I don't know 95 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:35.040 if this is out of print at least on physical media, 96 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:38.439 so I know you can stream it so well, not only. 97 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:42.800 Can you stream it as of today as we're recording, 98 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:45.639 you can see the entire movie on YouTube. 99 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:50.040 Oh like YouTube YouTube. 100 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:52.319 On YouTube by somebody that ain't Columbia. 101 00:04:53.040 --> 00:04:55.160 Okay, interesting, right, And I only. 102 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:57.079 Bring that up as to say, like that, that's a 103 00:04:57.160 --> 00:04:59.879 measure of how not successful the movie was. 104 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:02.839 Columbia either doesn't know or doesn't care. 105 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:09.439 Yeah, how sad, because this feels like a real passion project. 106 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:11.920 It, you know, it certainly does. I mean, whenever you 107 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:15.399 hear the various people involved, be it Jake kas and directed, 108 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:19.000 certainly John c Riley who stars in it, who is 109 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:23.319 Dewey Cox, and all the other folks involved. I mean, 110 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:26.000 and I mean we'll talk about this in the movie, 111 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:28.360 but I mean it is a murderer's row of just 112 00:05:28.480 --> 00:05:30.959 hey that person, Oh look at that, and not even 113 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:34.360 hey that guy. I mean like well known people right right, 114 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:36.839 who just pop up just just to hang out and 115 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:37.279 have fun. 116 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:41.439 Yep, So let's watch this, Brian, Let's do it. Let's 117 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:42.839 do let's do it. 118 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:46.000 And before we get started, I just want to remind 119 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:48.040 our listeners that if you want to hear this commentary 120 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:50.600 track ad free, which is of course the best way 121 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:53.399 to listen to our commentary tracks, well, you might want 122 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:55.120 to check out our Patreon feed, right. 123 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:58.839 Brian yep over at patreon dot com Slash Movie Film Podcast. 124 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:01.079 If you subscribe over there for only five dollars a month, 125 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:03.560 you get to hear this commentary and every other commentary 126 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:05.879 we've ever done, without any ads or interruptions. 127 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:07.120 Butting into the flow. 128 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:09.279 All right, so we'll do the usual thing. We'll hit 129 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:11.920 play on three one two three plate. Ready, Ready, here 130 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:14.000 we go, one two three plate. 131 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:17.560 Maybe because this is a musical, you should have been 132 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:20.519 like and a one and a two two. 133 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:24.920 Shay, or I should have just started and you'd be like, Zachy, 134 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:26.040 I don't, I don't know when you're starting. 135 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:32.879 I'd be like, just watch, And what I have to ask, 136 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:37.959 when was the last time you watched Walk the Line, 137 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:41.240 which I think is one of the bigger inspirations for 138 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:42.920 the outline of this movie. 139 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:47.759 Yes, this will Walk the Line and Ray most obviously. 140 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:50.439 Yeah, because those had come out just a couple of 141 00:06:50.519 --> 00:06:51.480 years before this one. 142 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:55.759 That's right, Yeah, Walk the Line well and Ray, both 143 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:59.800 of them I saw when they came out. I didn't. 144 00:06:59.879 --> 00:07:01.240 I didn't see either of them in the theater. I 145 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:03.279 saw them on home video, but it was you know, 146 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:05.879 so it's been about twenty years. 147 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:09.560 Same same and I know this opening is a lot 148 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:11.279 like the opening of Walk the Line, where you have 149 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:14.600 Johnny Cash at fulsome prison and he's about to go 150 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:17.480 on and play for the prisoners, and they're like Johnny 151 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:20.279 kind of a thing, and you know, you're ready to 152 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:22.920 go on, and he's got you know, his hand on 153 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:23.399 a wall. 154 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:26.560 Yeah, I'm it'sac it's I mean, it looks like an 155 00:07:26.600 --> 00:07:29.959 album cover for like several Johnny Cash albums exactly. And 156 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:34.439 then Matt Faxon, by the way, who's searching for Dewey Cox. 157 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:36.319 He you know, I had a chance to interview him. 158 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:38.720 He wrote and directed the Way way Back. 159 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:48.560 Oh, I knew I recognized him, but I didn't know why. 160 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:48.480 He goes Dewey Cox thinking about his life. Now, now 161 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:52.199 I will assume you did not see this in the theater. 162 00:07:52.279 --> 00:07:52.959 Maybe I'm wrong. 163 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:56.000 No, No, I was all over this. I oh, you 164 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:58.439 did see in the I was very excited for this movie. 165 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:01.279 So you see you beat me to it definitely, because 166 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:06.319 I didn't see this until it probably was on cable, you. 167 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:06.839 Know what it was. 168 00:08:06.879 --> 00:08:08.759 Actually I was working at a studio at the time 169 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:12.399 and this was during award season, So this was December 170 00:08:12.519 --> 00:08:14.120 two thousand and seven, and we were getting all sorts 171 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:17.079 of screeners and I was very excited for this movie. 172 00:08:17.120 --> 00:08:19.079 And I remember when the screener came in for this, 173 00:08:19.240 --> 00:08:20.879 I was like, oh, let me grab it, and I 174 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:23.199 want and I took it home and watched it and 175 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:26.720 then I loved it. And then I saw something else 176 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:28.680 in the theater the same month, and I remember when 177 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:31.800 that was over, I walked over to walk Hard and 178 00:08:31.839 --> 00:08:34.600 watched it again, really because I wanted to see it 179 00:08:34.679 --> 00:08:35.320 on the big screen. 180 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:35.639 Yeah. 181 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:40.519 So that's I mean, it is very much your sense 182 00:08:40.559 --> 00:08:41.240 of humor. 183 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:47.440 Definitely, And I love how into the nuts and bolts 184 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:51.000 of music history. It goes right like it is. It's 185 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:53.720 having fun with it. But I mean we get into 186 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:57.440 like the Brian Wilson smile sessions. 187 00:08:57.080 --> 00:08:58.679 Right in this movie, you know what I mean. 188 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:04.159 Well yeah, And and if I may, I mean another 189 00:09:04.279 --> 00:09:07.720 movie that you have long champion is called Fear of 190 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:10.879 a Black Hat. Yes, yes, And and that I mean 191 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:13.600 is different from this but similar in that it's a 192 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:20.240 very specific kind of parody, right yep. And and I 193 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:21.639 know for a long time you've been a big fan 194 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:22.200 of that one. 195 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:23.759 I mean, it's it's like all of it, right, it's 196 00:09:23.759 --> 00:09:27.799 spinal tap, it's the Naked Gun, it is just music, 197 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:31.159 you know, music history, it's it's all of it, and 198 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:34.840 it's Jutt Appatow. He was this was his moment, right, 199 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:36.720 I mean, this year we had forty year old Virgin 200 00:09:36.759 --> 00:09:38.919 already Freaks and Geeks and all those things that were 201 00:09:38.919 --> 00:09:41.039 sort of cult hits. But forty year old Virgin he 202 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:44.240 had his real breakout. Super I'm sorry knocked Up and 203 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:46.240 super Bad also came out this year. 204 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:47.840 I mean, he was on fire, yep. 205 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:50.799 And and I loved what he was doing, so I 206 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:54.159 was excited also that this was a jet Appatow joint. 207 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:05.840 Generally, you don't expect to laugh hysterically when a little 208 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:09.480 boy has been chopped in half with the machete, and 209 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:10.320 yet here we are. 210 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:12.639 But I love the like, matter of fact, do we 211 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:16.720 I'm cutting half pretty bad? I don't know that I'm 212 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:20.200 gonna make it. And that's the thing, right, This is 213 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:22.399 the kind of dialogue you hear in these sorts of things. 214 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:24.440 You know, it's like usually someone coughing into their hand 215 00:10:24.440 --> 00:10:27.120 and there's blood and they're like, you know, you're gonna 216 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:29.879 be okay, Like I don't know, man, looks pretty bad. 217 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:32.639 You know here, I've been cutting half pretty bad. 218 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:36.120 Well, I love this here. The doctor's like, we're not 219 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:37.879 gonna be able to sew the top half to the 220 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:42.120 bottom half, and. 221 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:44.480 That's you know what this does that thing that I love. 222 00:10:44.519 --> 00:10:48.559 Also, where it's not shot like a comedy right right, 223 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:52.320 it looks this is gorgeous. This may as well be 224 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:55.960 Walk the Line, like the lighting and the cinematography and everything, 225 00:10:55.960 --> 00:10:59.320 you know it's And that to me makes the joke 226 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:03.519 ten times funnier because they're acting like they're in that movie, 227 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:08.799 but they're saying ridiculous things or they're talking about ridiculous things. Yeah, 228 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:10.320 and then this comes from Walk the Line. 229 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:14.840 You know, the wrong kid died Yep. She becomes this 230 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:19.320 guy's mantra through the whole movie. That's so funny. 231 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:23.440 I also love how Kristen Wigg has the you know 232 00:11:23.480 --> 00:11:25.120 you're never gonna make it, You're never gonna make it, 233 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:27.080 and then when she's on the phone, lay're like, okay, Bud, 234 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:28.039 you're never gonna make it. 235 00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:35.360 I love how Margot Martindale's just playing it completely straight. 236 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:40.120 Yes, yes, she's so perfect. 237 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:45.559 And I was thinking, man, this really moves so quickly, 238 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:51.120 like I was admiring the the script, you know, or 239 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:53.879 maybe I should say the editing that because I'm sure 240 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:57.559 we know there's a two hour cut, but just you know, 241 00:11:57.879 --> 00:12:00.679 the flashback, the brother dies every but he's upset. 242 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:03.399 Now go to the store, you know, and so then. 243 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:05.840 He goes and meets these uh, these blues musicians, and 244 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:07.720 then he plays the guitar and sings the blues for 245 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:08.320 the first time. 246 00:12:08.759 --> 00:12:08.960 You know. 247 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:13.360 It's just it's so fast, and like any great comedy, 248 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:16.759 every scene has at least multiple things that you laugh 249 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:20.039 at in it, right, you know, well. 250 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:23.559 I I think that that's you know, you were talking 251 00:12:23.559 --> 00:12:25.960 about Apatow, and you know, I think Apatow at his 252 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:30.080 best benefits from from strong editing. 253 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:32.200 Yoh, totally right. 254 00:12:32.039 --> 00:12:34.559 Because because you know you're talking. I mean, I haven't 255 00:12:34.559 --> 00:12:36.759 seen the extended version fully, but I did see the 256 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:42.080 extended version of certain clips. I saw specifically the Beatles scene. 257 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:45.720 Oh interesting, okay, And and it's like amusing. I'm not 258 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:49.519 I'm not saying it's it's it's not funny, but it's 259 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:53.120 Jack Black and Paul Rudd and and you know, Jason 260 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:56.840 Schwartzman and and Justin Long. Just I mean, there's a 261 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:00.399 lot of them riffing, right, and it is like like 262 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:03.720 but on its own it's fun, right, but it would 263 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:06.559 just kill the momentum cold in the movie, right, right, 264 00:13:06.679 --> 00:13:09.480 So it's like you got to know when to let 265 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:11.080 some of the stuff go, right. 266 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:13.799 Yeah, And it seems like he was doing that less 267 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:16.039 and less, that's right, as he went on. 268 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:19.120 That's exactly it, yeah, right, because. 269 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:21.879 I mean, you know, Knocked Up in forty old version 270 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:25.519 are a bit long for comedies, but I think they 271 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:29.480 sustain well. But then his movie's just got like funny 272 00:13:29.480 --> 00:13:32.120 People is like two and a half hours long, exactly, 273 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:35.960 you know, and when you watch it, it does feel 274 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:39.360 like a lot of it does feel like outtakes, you know, 275 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:40.879 like just stuff he was in love with that he 276 00:13:40.879 --> 00:13:41.639 couldn't let go of. 277 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:43.960 That is slowing the movie down. 278 00:13:44.200 --> 00:13:48.000 Right, This is so funny here, right, we got John 279 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:52.799 c Riley as fourteen year old Dewey Cox, and damned 280 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:54.519 if you don't believe he's fourteen years old. 281 00:13:59.240 --> 00:14:03.399 He is incredible in this movie, right, I mean, because 282 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:08.639 he's doing so much, he's like he's he's he's so 283 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:12.759 good in comedies because he has this kind of I 284 00:14:12.759 --> 00:14:15.600 don't know, like dopiness, a little bit in his voice 285 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:19.240 that he can like play with and accentuate, you know, 286 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:22.200 for comedic purposes. But before this he was mostly known 287 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:25.320 for serious movies, right like Paul Thomas Anderson movies, The Hours, 288 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:28.000 Gangs of New York, Boogie Knights, Boogie. 289 00:14:27.799 --> 00:14:28.279 Knights of course. 290 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:30.799 Yeah, And so then it feels like this was a 291 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:33.919 real sort of breakout moment for him to show like 292 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:36.679 a whole new you know, tool in his toolbox that 293 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:39.159 he had. And then he does Step Brothers the next year, 294 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:42.000 and he I think people probably think of him as 295 00:14:42.200 --> 00:14:43.240 a comedian now. 296 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:46.120 More of a more of a comedy or a or 297 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:49.799 animated guy, because he's a you know, he's a recket. 298 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:50.679 What's l reckett? 299 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.039 Ralph? Yeah, what did that guy say? I love that, 300 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:55.000 the talent show guy. 301 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:57.360 He says some joke like ladies and germs kind of thing, 302 00:14:57.799 --> 00:14:59.840 and then everyone like laughs a little louder than they shed. 303 00:14:59.879 --> 00:15:01.279 He us, I know, I know. 304 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:07.639 Those are the jokes I love, you know, like it's 305 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:11.120 just weird little stories in this universe, Like that's the 306 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:13.480 funny guy that everybody thinks it's funny at school. 307 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:17.679 I know, I know, the. 308 00:15:17.639 --> 00:15:22.480 Wrong kid time God damn it just apropos of nothing 309 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:23.399 quite dear. 310 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:27.799 And this is hilarious because this is what happens in 311 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:30.080 these movies, right, you know, Elvis goes Actually this does 312 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:32.799 happen in Elvis the baz Lerman one, which came out 313 00:15:32.879 --> 00:15:35.600 years later. But he sings a song and women just 314 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:38.600 can't help it, sort of like oh, like something's moving 315 00:15:38.639 --> 00:15:40.600 and stirring inside of them, you know, like a like 316 00:15:40.639 --> 00:15:43.639 a sexual awakening. But he's singing the most chase song 317 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:46.440 in the world about holding hands, but women are like 318 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:51.320 ripping their dresses open, and you know, it's so funny. 319 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:52.960 People punching ministers. 320 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:58.159 Rance Howard as the priest. 321 00:15:58.919 --> 00:15:59.480 Wait, w was he? 322 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:01.919 That's Ron Howard's dad. 323 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:09.000 Oh guy, k oh my gosh. 324 00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:13.000 Then Kristin Wig, I mean this is like her SNL 325 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:16.200 moment right where she's like a superstar in SNL. I 326 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:18.120 mean before Bridesmaids and everything. 327 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:24.080 Yeah, she had she was in Uh she's a knocked up. 328 00:16:24.039 --> 00:16:29.000 Right, Yes, she's an executive at E Channel. 329 00:16:28.840 --> 00:16:31.960 That's right, So she she kind of she was already 330 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:33.679 in the Apatow Orbit, you know. 331 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:37.120 Yeah, I think I had read somewhere where Yeah, she 332 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:39.840 really popped in that moment, and this is like what 333 00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:43.879 Jed Apatow does. He finds these interesting people who have 334 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:47.320 not found a vehicle yet, and he creates vehicles for them, right, 335 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:50.840 which is you know, he was doing it more in 336 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:52.879 this era, but it was it was kind. 337 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:57.480 Of great perfect. You know, Ricky Bobby was just a 338 00:16:57.559 --> 00:16:58.200 year before this. 339 00:16:58.759 --> 00:17:01.159 Oh that was for this okay. 340 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:04.200 Yeah, so you can imagine that's what That's what laid 341 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:06.759 the track for John c Riley doing this the other 342 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:09.160 you know, we were talking about Riley and and I 343 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:12.640 think what what makes his performance work? I was thinking 344 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:15.920 about as I rewatched it. I was like, the songs 345 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:22.000 are good, like they're all they're all like earworms, right, And. 346 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:25.880 That's that's the trick really exactly, because it's not like 347 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:29.440 they have funny lyrics, right, Like occasionally they do like 348 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:32.240 something that's like a little off kilter or something, but 349 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:38.160 they're so perfect, like they're not like just an Elvis 350 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:41.039 song or like, oh, this is a fifties rock and 351 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:43.359 roll song. Like at one point he is doing like 352 00:17:43.480 --> 00:17:47.799 the operatic rock of Roy Orbison specifically, you know, and 353 00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:52.079 like this very very specific like era of Bob Dylan, 354 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:57.759 you know. So yeah, yeah, it's it's brilliant and almost 355 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:02.839 like if you don't have that awareness, you might not 356 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:05.680 find it as funny, which is why I think this 357 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:10.920 movie really resonates with certain people and other people you know, 358 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:14.119 just I don't know, can't get into it as much. 359 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:21.160 Yeah, So this sequence here, it's inspired by, Uh, there's 360 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:24.960 a there's an Elvis movie called called King Creole okay, 361 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:29.119 and it's basically the same idea. You have a you know, 362 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:32.920 a black band and you know the lead singers and available, 363 00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:35.039 so like, well what about you you sing? And he's like, well, 364 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:38.039 you know, and he starts doing his Elvis thing. But 365 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:42.279 obviously it's made so much funnier by everything, you know, 366 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:47.279 like poor Craig Robinson. You feel bad for him, the 367 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:49.480 mistrain for him, you know. 368 00:18:49.839 --> 00:18:52.559 Yeah, actually I did think about that in this when 369 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:54.039 I was watching this, like, oh man, that could have 370 00:18:54.079 --> 00:19:00.960 been his This could have been his movie. And that's 371 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:04.920 what's funny too, is I like that it is riffing 372 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:08.400 on so many familiar stories and movies and whatever, but 373 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:11.440 it is enough of its own thing. You know that 374 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:15.640 by the end, when Cox does have his song that 375 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:19.720 sums up his entire life, I weirdly like feel something right, 376 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:22.799 Like it is enough of its own story as much 377 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:24.119 as it's leaning on other things. 378 00:19:24.279 --> 00:19:26.279 Yeah, well, you. 379 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:29.599 Know, I I think when when you look at like 380 00:19:29.720 --> 00:19:34.920 the the ePK material and you know, the interviews and 381 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:39.000 things that the filmmakers and cast made that they gave 382 00:19:39.680 --> 00:19:42.680 when the movie came out, you know, they're they're jokingly 383 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:44.640 but very seriously, like, you know, our goal is to 384 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:48.720 win Oscars, you know, And it's like that they're treating 385 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:53.240 this like it's an Oscar bait movie, right, right, And 386 00:19:53.279 --> 00:19:56.400 I think that's what makes it hilarious. But it really it, 387 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:00.960 you know, it's what I realize about this type of humor, 388 00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:03.960 and and I think it helps that like you and 389 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:06.000 I have very similar like we have a sense of 390 00:20:06.039 --> 00:20:10.200 what we each find funny, right, But I have to 391 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:13.160 remind myself, oh, not everybody finds that type of stuff funny. 392 00:20:13.240 --> 00:20:14.880 Mm hmm, yeah for sure, right. 393 00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:18.559 And so it's like for the inside group, it's just like, 394 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:23.079 oh man, this is it's you know, you're you're you're 395 00:20:23.480 --> 00:20:25.599 experiencing genius as it's happening. 396 00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:26.079 M hm. 397 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:29.960 But again, if you're part of the outside group, it's 398 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:32.160 like this is nothing, None of this makes sense. 399 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:32.599 You know. 400 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:35.680 Yeah, yeah, and that's that's why I think it's but 401 00:20:35.720 --> 00:20:37.119 I just have to call it this whole thing where 402 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:38.720 he's like, you know, I got to follow my dreams. 403 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:40.640 She's like, what about my dreams. He's like, I told you, 404 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:44.079 I can't build you a candy house. It won't work, 405 00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:47.240 It'll melt. She's like, what if it never rains? 406 00:20:50.079 --> 00:20:51.920 You know, It's like all of it. This thing is, 407 00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:52.799 it covers all of it. 408 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:55.240 It's got the stupid humor, it's got the incisive humor, 409 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:57.359 it's got the wit, it's got the parody. 410 00:20:58.119 --> 00:21:01.279 Well this right here, right the the horriest of tropes, 411 00:21:01.319 --> 00:21:06.440 which is they the star of the music bio somehow 412 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:09.119 stumbles upon their most important hit. 413 00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:17.880 Yep, yeah, like all those trip walk Hard Hard you know, 414 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:19.079 yeah exactly. 415 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:23.720 But like I mean, just going back to the audience, 416 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:25.440 you know, I was curious. I looked, I want to 417 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:28.640 see what critics thought, and it's like seventy five percent 418 00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:33.880 for critics and fifty seven percent for audience. Interesting, okay, 419 00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:36.559 And so I saw and just then I looked this 420 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:39.200 on Rott Tomatoes and I looked into the audience and 421 00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:42.480 the two top comments literally side by side on the 422 00:21:42.519 --> 00:21:47.680 page is this is what passes for comedy and awesome movie, 423 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:49.000 one of the best I've ever seen. 424 00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:53.160 Brilliant, which you know said enough said. 425 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:54.480 I mean this is kind of what we're saying. 426 00:21:54.759 --> 00:21:56.799 I think that makes sense because this is so niche 427 00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:59.440 and it nails its subject matter in a very precise way. 428 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:01.799 Like like that it doesn't just go broad and become 429 00:22:01.880 --> 00:22:05.079 like a rock and roll comedy, right, It digs in 430 00:22:05.119 --> 00:22:08.440 and gets hyper specific, right, you know, which isn't going 431 00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:12.799 going to appeal to everyone, but for the people you 432 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:15.720 know that this connects with, this becomes an instant classic. 433 00:22:16.599 --> 00:22:16.839 Yeah. 434 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:23.319 Well, it's you know when we look at our comedic influences, right, 435 00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:25.920 I mean it's you know, we often point to Conan, 436 00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:30.079 you know, who himself would point to Monty Python and 437 00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:32.039 and you know, and you can connect the dots from 438 00:22:32.079 --> 00:22:34.960 from Conan to here, right, and and I think for again, 439 00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:36.880 for the things that you and I laugh at, it's 440 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:41.480 part of it's part of that continuum, right. And it's 441 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:44.720 you know, it's like like Conan has I mean, he 442 00:22:44.759 --> 00:22:46.519 has many bits, but he has this one which I'm 443 00:22:46.519 --> 00:22:49.119 sure you've seen where it's from Wait, like season one, 444 00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:51.440 maybe the first few months of his show where he 445 00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:52.519 has Scarlett Johansson. 446 00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:55.759 She's a little kid, yeah yeah, yeah, yes, yes, right. 447 00:22:55.680 --> 00:23:01.480 And she plays a spelling be champion who keeps misspelling 448 00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:05.559 words and nobody is willing to call her on it, yes, which, 449 00:23:05.720 --> 00:23:09.000 like to me, that's just like that is hilarious, so funny. 450 00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:12.160 Yeah right, the whole bit everything and the execution, you know. 451 00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:14.359 And yet I've shown that to people who are like, 452 00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:15.319 I don't what's the joke. 453 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:18.960 Yeah, well Chase Conan is pretending, yeah, it's it's pretending 454 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:21.960 like it's an interview, and he is just going with it, 455 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:25.039 like playing himself, going with it as if this was 456 00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:28.039 a real interview and this kid isn't spelling words correctly, 457 00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:30.160 who's supposed to be a spelling bee champion. But then 458 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:35.599 Andy is like, well, you know, I mean I hate 459 00:23:35.599 --> 00:23:38.160 to be you know it, but that actually is incorrect 460 00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:40.799 and you can tell like the audience is uncomfortable. 461 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:44.039 Yep, you know, like and that's that's the joke. That's 462 00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:45.079 the joke exactly. 463 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:46.640 Yeah. 464 00:23:46.799 --> 00:23:51.119 This is by the way, mister Lahai, mister Mazeltov, right, 465 00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:56.599 the Jewish music executives. Yeah, yeah, literally looks like rabbis 466 00:23:56.839 --> 00:23:58.039 Harold Ramis ri ip. 467 00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:03.039 Yeah, one of a kind, such a unique. 468 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:07.960 Warmth seriously, yeah, yeah, dude, and John Michael Higgins in 469 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:11.440 this one scene just crushes. 470 00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:22.480 Stopped at this instant. You have failed conclusively. I quote 471 00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:35.119 this so much. You've ruined my faith in the Jewish people. Well, sir, 472 00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:40.599 I'd like to restore your faith in Judaism. Yeah, what 473 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:42.799 makes this so funny? So this is this is pretty 474 00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:47.200 clearly I mean this is like directly parodying Walk Hard. 475 00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:50.599 Yeah, or Walk the Line. Yeah, excuse me walk yeah, 476 00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:55.640 walk the Line. Uh, the way it's shot everything right, Yeah. 477 00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:58.400 But what I love is like how it compresses the 478 00:24:58.440 --> 00:25:02.559 time frame where like it becomes a hit while he's recording. 479 00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:07.200 Yes, yes, yeah, the DJ is playing it on the radio. 480 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:09.400 He's like, wow, this was recorded thirty five minutes ago. 481 00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:14.920 I love, but this is I mean, this is kind 482 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:17.599 of what Walk the Line does. It's like, this is 483 00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:20.799 your last shot. Like what you've done so far isn't working. Yeah, 484 00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:22.720 but I need you to play something that is you 485 00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:25.079 from your heart. But like this just takes it and 486 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:32.839 dials it up to eleven. You know, it's comedically and 487 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:35.359 then it's funny because he turns to the band and 488 00:25:35.400 --> 00:25:37.160 it's just like, all right, well, I've never met these 489 00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:39.559 people before in my life, but just follow me. And 490 00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:41.000 then all of a sudden, they know the song and 491 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:42.880 they know how to sing back up for it, and 492 00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:43.680 you know it's. 493 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:47.759 Let me give you fifteen more seconds. His voice is 494 00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:51.680 so good. I was lucky enough to meet him when 495 00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:54.319 I worked on for Your Consideration. Oh yeah, that's right, 496 00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:56.480 you did, mommy. Yeah, he's part of that Christopher guest troop. 497 00:25:56.519 --> 00:25:58.160 He's so funny. 498 00:25:58.319 --> 00:26:02.720 First time I saw him was as David Letterman. Oh 499 00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:06.200 in the late Shift to that HBO movie. Wow. 500 00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:10.440 Yeah, I don't know that I connected that that was him. 501 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:12.440 He was a pretty good Letterman. 502 00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:16.079 I thought, yeah, that's a good movie. I think it is. 503 00:26:16.119 --> 00:26:16.559 I agree. 504 00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:18.920 Yeah, see like this right here, walk I love this 505 00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:23.559 look he shoots movie. He knows immediately, like literally, he's 506 00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:28.039 just like walk hard. And then he's like, people are 507 00:26:28.079 --> 00:26:30.759 running up. But here's the thing. Walk Hard is a 508 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:31.640 banger of a song. 509 00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:35.839 That's that's the real trick, right right. 510 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:41.400 And And you know it's funny because I still stand 511 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:43.559 by I think that thing you do being the most 512 00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:46.640 amazing achievement in like making up a song for a 513 00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:49.839 fake band in a movie, because that is supposed to 514 00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:52.079 be like, these guys come up with a hit that 515 00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:55.640 is undeniable that we're gonna play ten times in this 516 00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:58.039 movie and you will never get tired of it. And 517 00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:01.079 I think it's a miracle that song. And then you 518 00:27:01.160 --> 00:27:04.880 really do have to put this movie really really close 519 00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:08.559 because it comes up with so many songs that are 520 00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:13.440 supposed to represent so many different eras of music so specifically, 521 00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:16.000 and they're funny in the way they're. 522 00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:16.359 Supposed to be. 523 00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:21.160 Real quick, so we just saw Jack McBrayer as the DJ. Yeah, right, right, right, 524 00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:23.599 so we got we got to wreck at Ralph and 525 00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:24.480 fix it Felix. 526 00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:26.960 Oh yeah, good god. Well this is so like. 527 00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:30.200 You know, you're saying, there's so many people in this 528 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:32.279 and especially of this moment, right, I mean you have 529 00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:34.960 so many people from the office, yeah, which I think 530 00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:39.519 started two years before this and Appatao gang people form 531 00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:41.599 freaks and geeks just populating this movie. 532 00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:44.839 Sorry you were saying about the song. 533 00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:46.359 No, but I mean I think that's the real trick, 534 00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:50.400 is like the songs aren't like weird al you know, 535 00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:55.119 trying to be like like it's not the song isn't 536 00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:58.759 a gag, right, you know what I mean? They're actually 537 00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:01.640 like really well done, and how well done they are 538 00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:06.440 is kind of the joke. Yeah right, you know when 539 00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:08.799 I loved this too, just the way that this has 540 00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:12.119 played this giraffe in his kitchen. He's like, oh yeah, 541 00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:14.119 you know, I said sure, but I just want the giraffe. 542 00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:17.279 So anyway, he's a beautiful creature, you know, like just 543 00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:22.680 so casual. But I wanted to call out a lot 544 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:26.519 of songwriters participated, but primarily these songs were written by 545 00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:31.279 a guy named Dan Byrne and Mike Viola, and Mike 546 00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:33.720 Viola produced That Thing You. 547 00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:36.000 Do, which was written by the late great Adam Schleisinger. 548 00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:37.720 Oh okay, and. 549 00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.720 Viola is produced and written stuff for like Panic at 550 00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:44.680 the Disco and Mandy Moore, Jenny Lewis and Dan Byrne. 551 00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:51.039 He's a singer songwriter, you know, I'm looking him up. 552 00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:52.839 I'm not familiar with him, but I saw he was. 553 00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:56.279 He's been compared to Bob Dylan and Woody Guthrie and 554 00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:58.799 Bruce Springsteen and like those are the people you want, 555 00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:00.240 almost right, not comed. 556 00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:04.039 Right, exactly, No, that's true. This right here realka, I'm 557 00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:05.960 gonna miss some birth are you some Christmas? I'm gonna 558 00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:14.599 miss some births? Period, Dewey, You're never gonna follow up 559 00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:15.440 on your dreams. 560 00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:23.200 He's got all these babies, you know. It's funny too. 561 00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:25.960 Is like one of the things we sort of criticized 562 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:27.839 from this era or something that came out of this era, 563 00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:32.160 was a lot of improvisation and a lot of it 564 00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:35.440 kept in that maybe maybe it was fun on the day, 565 00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:37.079 but if they had a little more discipline, they could 566 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:38.920 have cut it out because it's not really it's kind 567 00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:41.160 of slowing the movie down. I feel like that moment 568 00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:44.079 about the crow, you know, like I'll get you a crow, 569 00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:46.759 a talking crow, that feels like the only thing in 570 00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:48.519 this movie to me that he just kind of made 571 00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:50.440 up on the spot, and they're like, yeah, that's funny, 572 00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:53.960 let's just run with that. Everything else does feel pretty intentional, 573 00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:55.960 and it's a great observation. 574 00:29:56.119 --> 00:30:01.680 Yeah, Frankie Munis as Buddy Holly, that's such a great idea, 575 00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:04.279 pretty good casting, and I love all they always have 576 00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:04.839 to be like. 577 00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:06.599 Look man, it's me Buddy Holly. Yep. 578 00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:12.799 Yeah, they do that, especially during the Beatles scene. 579 00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:17.720 Right right, what's that guy's name? I can't believe I'm 580 00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:19.599 blinking on it, Ed Helms, Ed Helms. 581 00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:22.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Andy Dwyer yep. 582 00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:25.519 And Jack White is Elvis Jack. 583 00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:26.559 That's good casting. 584 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:28.119 That's a really funny idea. 585 00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:33.240 Yeah, Like I love it because it doesn't feel like 586 00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:36.599 an impersonator, right, you know, it's just kind of its 587 00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:39.240 own thing, but also kind of fun because you're like, 588 00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:40.519 oh yeah, Jack White. 589 00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:45.759 Yeah, I didn't recognize him because I'm not used to 590 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.839 him with his hair not down, you know. Yeah, yeah, 591 00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:53.559 But what I love is that his elvis It's like 592 00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:57.039 it's like barely elvis. You know, it's like an imitation 593 00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:00.160 of an imitation of imitation, you know, right right, That's 594 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:02.480 what makes it funny to me. Yeah, And I should say, 595 00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:04.799 by the way, Ed Helms was, of course Andy Bernard, 596 00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:07.599 not Andy Dwyer. Andy Dwyer was Chris Pratt on Parks 597 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:10.720 and rec and it was good catch. I know people 598 00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:12.400 are gonna jump on my ass about that. 599 00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:16.319 People are slowly backing away from their laptops like all right. 600 00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:17.519 You son of a bitch. 601 00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:23.400 That's beautiful, isn't it. 602 00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:26.680 Yeah, Well, like we're talking about I mean, you got 603 00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:30.680 to shoot it like a real movie, you know. I 604 00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:34.079 think I think what you're saying about, like the comedies 605 00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:37.400 of that period, there's like a roughly five year window 606 00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:41.839 from like two thousand and six to twenty eleven where 607 00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:43.599 there was a lot of what you're talking about where 608 00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:45.799 it's just like point the camera at the funny people 609 00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:49.119 and let them be funny. And I think that's only 610 00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:52.200 part of the trick, yep, because you got yes, you 611 00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:53.960 got to capture it, but then you got to prune. 612 00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:58.240 It definitely, and you need the people who have the ability. 613 00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:01.960 Yeah, and look more often than not. I mean, you know, 614 00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:04.640 Jed Appatow is going to assemble a cast that has 615 00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:06.319 the goods. 616 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.559 With Apatow, but there was a lot of imitators. I 617 00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:12.640 think that kind of cruche. That's a good point, and 618 00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:15.039 it just it was occasionally painful. 619 00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:18.920 It's weird because I mean there was this surplus during 620 00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:22.480 that that window, right, and it it feels like brieg 621 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:26.000 screen comedies just in general have kind of dwindled, right hmm. 622 00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:31.119 Yeah, Yeah, I mean, I theatrically, I don't I the 623 00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:32.799 last thing I'm probably wrong, but the last thing that 624 00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:36.000 comes to mind is that Jennifer Lawrence movie. You know 625 00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:38.640 that felt like something like a throwback, like kind of 626 00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:41.960 a oh the the like a rated comedy. 627 00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:46.200 Yes, what was it called No Hard Feelings? 628 00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:47.000 No Hard Feelings? 629 00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:49.640 Yeah, which was I liked? That was funny. 630 00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:50.640 I never saw it. 631 00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:52.079 I don't I think it did. 632 00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:55.359 Okay, here we go. This is this is my favorite 633 00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:57.279 runner through the whole movie. 634 00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:02.000 You don't want none of this. We're smoking reefer. 635 00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:07.839 So this is this is a reference to Ray right, 636 00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:10.720 which is a similar thing where that's how he ends 637 00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:13.359 up addicted to the hard stuff, you know. 638 00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:13.839 Mm hmm. 639 00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:17.799 See we're talking about like you know how how trophy 640 00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:20.920 this movie. It's parroting all these tropes that people knew, right, 641 00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:22.720 And it's like, well, why does Hollywood keep doing that? 642 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:24.880 Well? Because it works? Yeah? 643 00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:28.440 Right, Like say what you will about about the artistic 644 00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:31.799 merit of these, you know, jukebox musicals, right, these these 645 00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:35.359 jukebox biopics, I mean, people show up totally. 646 00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:37.759 I mean it's like we talk about this with sports films, 647 00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:40.640 you know, like underdog sports films. It's like we I 648 00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:42.240 could tell you how it's going to end before I 649 00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:45.480 even the movie starts, right. But I love the experience 650 00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:47.720 of it. I like the root thing, rooting for the 651 00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:50.039 athlete or the team or whoever, you. 652 00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:53.559 Know, Like I mean, I mean Ray and walk the 653 00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:57.480 line obviously, but like you know Bohemian Rhapsody, that's a. 654 00:33:57.480 --> 00:33:59.480 Big one, right oh yeah, yeah, right. 655 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:06.400 A Rocketman, you know, the Bob Dylan one to some extent. 656 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:11.599 I like that one, right shoot, No, what is that called? 657 00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:14.480 I don't remember. I just call it the Bob Dylan movie. 658 00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:15.079 Isn't that funny? 659 00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:19.079 There's certain titles that just don't stick. Although I know 660 00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:20.639 I know what I'm gonna see it. 661 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:27.840 Let's see Shelly movie. A complete unknown of course part 662 00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:28.320 of the lyrics. 663 00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:38.159 Yeah, dude, Tim Meadows like he is just one of 664 00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:41.000 those guys since SNL all the way. 665 00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:42.440 Through to today. 666 00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:47.480 He is just solid, always delivers, always like I love 667 00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:50.199 seeing him whenever he pops up, Like I would really 668 00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:53.079 love for him to find something that is, like, I 669 00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:54.800 don't know, just perfect for him, you know. 670 00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:55.440 Yeah. 671 00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:58.400 So on SNL, you know when he was on it 672 00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:00.599 for a minute there, he had the rec for being 673 00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:04.440 like the longest lived, longest lasting cast member on that show. 674 00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:07.880 Oh interesting, I think Keenan has lapped him several times 675 00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:11.079 over that point. Yes, But my point is like keenan 676 00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:14.079 and and Tim Meadows, right, they they work for the 677 00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:17.360 same reason. They're not showy, right They they are more 678 00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:21.519 often than not the straight man, and they're able to 679 00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:27.079 pull that off with the plumb right Yep, Yep. He 680 00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:30.000 does very similar here, right, Like he he knows how 681 00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:33.760 to how to just kind of add that extra sparkle 682 00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:36.639 to a scene. H he Actually he was just on 683 00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:39.239 a show that just got canceled. It was on CBS. 684 00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:40.480 It was very funny. It was called DMV. 685 00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:42.800 I was just thinking about that. I guess that's why 686 00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:44.119 I was feeling, like, man, what is he going to 687 00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:44.719 get his thing? 688 00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:48.239 I know. I mean, in all fairness, that show should 689 00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:51.159 have run and run. Really it absolutely should have. I 690 00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:54.840 don't know why CBS canceled it, but but it's a 691 00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:57.199 damn shame. I love this Just people walking around with 692 00:35:57.239 --> 00:35:58.199 their wings hanging out. 693 00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:03.199 It's almost hard to have like a straight conversation with 694 00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:09.239 like I like his dad just like what the But yeah, 695 00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:11.920 but like you said, he just adds sparkle to it. 696 00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:14.920 I mean later in the movie when they're old men. Yeah, 697 00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:18.159 and I think he like opens like a his you know, 698 00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:20.519 door to his trailer or whatever it is. It's just 699 00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:22.159 him with this like white hair in the sides of 700 00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:24.960 his head and he just has this smile just like 701 00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:28.559 you know, like it's it's wordless, but it like pops 702 00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:30.840 because it's Tim Meadows. And then of course in that 703 00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:33.679 scene with the joint, you know, and he's like, the 704 00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:36.000 way you could give someone else those lines and it 705 00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:37.760 like would be kind of funny, but him being like, 706 00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:39.800 it's not habit forming. 707 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:47.159 Dude, the way the way to his mom dies do 708 00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:48.400 his music kills again? 709 00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:55.679 She lost her bounds and the radio crushed her head. 710 00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:04.400 Now, now we were talking about Tim Meadows, you know, 711 00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:06.760 you talk in terms of what he was able to 712 00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:09.039 do on SNL. You know, one of the sketches, there's 713 00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:10.840 so many, but one of the sketches that I remember 714 00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:13.159 is a Jingleheimer junction. 715 00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:15.920 Oh yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. 716 00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:20.199 And the whole premise is you've got various characters with 717 00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:23.480 letters on there. It's like a kid's show, like on 718 00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:26.719 PBS or something. Yeah, and you've got like you for 719 00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:30.280 unity and for niceness, you know whatever. Yeah, you know, 720 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:32.920 see for caring, you know. And then and then Will 721 00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:36.280 Ferrell shows up as the new guy and he's f 722 00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:39.800 for friendly, so it's f U c K. 723 00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:40.280 Right. 724 00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:43.599 That's the joke is is Tim Meadows is the host 725 00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:45.159 of the show and he's trying to prevent them from 726 00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:46.559 lining up in that order. 727 00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:48.159 Yeah, yeah, to spell it the word. 728 00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:53.519 And it only works because you need an opposite energy 729 00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:57.559 from Will Ferrell right right, and it's comedy gold. 730 00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:00.000 It's so funny. If people haven't seen it, look at us. 731 00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:03.239 I've seen it multiple times. It comes up on my Instagram. Actually, 732 00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:08.000 oh really occasionally. Yeah, I love this now he's done 733 00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:09.760 cocaine and he invents punk music. 734 00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:15.960 That was the thing too. 735 00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:19.280 I looked up that they learned how to play their instruments, 736 00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:21.480 and that's I mean, you can tell, you know, in 737 00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:23.480 a movie like this, I think that's important. It's always 738 00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:27.239 distracting when you see people I don't know hitting symbols 739 00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:28.800 when they don't line up for me, it is at 740 00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:29.679 least do. 741 00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:32.360 You clock that stuff occasionally? 742 00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:37.119 Yeah, I guess in a movie that's about music, right, 743 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:38.320 you're seeing it more. 744 00:38:41.159 --> 00:38:42.599 And then what's the guy Parnell? 745 00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:47.719 Right, Chris Parnell, Yeah, Chris Parnell, Yeah, the bassist. He's 746 00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:50.119 another one of those guys. It's just like he's I 747 00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:51.400 feel like underappreciated. 748 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:56.360 I kind of loved that he narrated the Lorne Michael's documentary. 749 00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:57.559 Yes, oh that's right. 750 00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.719 I mean because he has such a distinct voice. I 751 00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:02.440 just I know Chris Parnell's voice. 752 00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:03.400 Mm hmm. 753 00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:06.000 And so as soon as that movie says, we start 754 00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:08.559 hearing a narration, and reflexively I was like, does this 755 00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:12.360 movie need narration? And then I hear Chris Parnell. I'm like, oh, well, yes, 756 00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:13.800 because it's Chris Parnell doing it. 757 00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:14.480 Mm hmmmm. 758 00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:19.639 He has like he can do announcer voice. Yeah, but 759 00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.119 he has like a slight I mean, how would you 760 00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:24.880 describe it, like something that undercuts it its seriousness a 761 00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:25.320 little bit. 762 00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:28.320 Yeah, just just a little hint of sarcasm. 763 00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:30.320 Yeah, sarcasm or smart or something. 764 00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:32.119 Yeah, yeah, smart, maybe that's the better. 765 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:33.440 Yeah, he's so good at that. 766 00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:35.760 I mean, I love him in hot Rod and I 767 00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:37.760 thought it was he does a similar sort of role 768 00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:41.559 in this to Anchorman, where it's like he looks up 769 00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:45.039 to the big boss man, gets betrayed by them and 770 00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:45.960 is deeply hurt. 771 00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:52.159 Yeah, he plays that really well. Jennif Fisher. 772 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.760 So, Jennif Fisher so yeah, the Office had just started 773 00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:56.679 the year prior. 774 00:39:56.519 --> 00:39:59.320 Right, maybe two year I think two thousand and five. 775 00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:02.920 Was it, oh five mm hmm. Yeah, she's terrificing this. 776 00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:06.760 Yeah, I was thinking this, you know, she's very good 777 00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:10.360 in this. But then I don't know, like she wasn't 778 00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:12.280 in a ton of movies. I don't I can think 779 00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:14.559 of well, I think. 780 00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:18.840 The problem there is that, like Pam is such a 781 00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:22.559 singular kind of character, like it's easy to see getting 782 00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:23.480 boxed in by that. 783 00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:23.760 You know. 784 00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:30.440 Yeah, yeah, she's good, you know, kind of the I 785 00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:36.519 guess the Reese Witherspoon character, right, that's right, Yeah, sort 786 00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:37.760 of like the virginal type. 787 00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:46.960 But temptation for him. 788 00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:52.840 This song though, where yeah, yeah, I'm gonna beat off 789 00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:54.239 my demons. 790 00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:00.360 I was like, in my dreams, I'm blowing you kiss. 791 00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:06.920 Oh man, you know it's funny. 792 00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:08.679 I noticed by the way too, I think, yeah, here 793 00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:11.400 where she's like sawing, and I was like, oh, that's 794 00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:14.199 just funny. Like them like one day they were building furniture. 795 00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:17.079 But then later in the movie when he gets mad, 796 00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:19.360 there's a joke of him trying to saw like a 797 00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:21.840 couch and half. I was like, oh, these guys really 798 00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:23.280 think sawing is funny. 799 00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:30.039 That's always like. 800 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:33.360 Kind of a funny thing in comedic montages like a 801 00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:36.320 dating montage or whatever, like the stuff they come up 802 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:37.800 with the characters to do, Like it makes me think 803 00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:39.800 of the Naked gun right where they're on the beach 804 00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:43.519 holding hands running, but then they like closeline those people 805 00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:47.239 and the hot dog vendor and squirting stuff all over 806 00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:48.000 each other. 807 00:41:48.280 --> 00:41:52.079 Catch right, like like hot shots right with yes, you 808 00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:57.440 know similar, it's but it's interesting because because it's it's 809 00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:02.559 different montage like there there's there's it's different types of humor, 810 00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:07.599 like this is not airplane type humor, not in the 811 00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:08.199 same way. 812 00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:12.000 No, not in the same way, right, but it's like 813 00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:15.400 in its DNA right, you know, that's what I love 814 00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:15.800 about it. 815 00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:18.320 It's like a combination of all the stuff we like. Right, 816 00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:22.960 Look how beautifully lit it is. That's what I love. 817 00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:29.760 Like, Oh yeah, it's a very CPIA toned you know. 818 00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:30.599 Yeah. 819 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:32.599 So I was going to bring up Jake Kasden because 820 00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:37.079 he's pretty interesting his career, right, I mean he then 821 00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:40.440 he start now he did Zero Effect, which I've not seen, right, 822 00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:43.719 but then he worked with Appatoe with Freaks and Geeks. 823 00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:45.159 Then undeclared. 824 00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:47.760 Then he did the Jumanji movies. 825 00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:50.679 Yeah, so then he has yeah, you know, Walk Hard, 826 00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:55.280 Bad Teacher, New Girl, and then we get to these 827 00:42:55.360 --> 00:43:00.639 big blockbuster Jumanji films, right, so very career. 828 00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:05.679 Yeah, I mean I'm glad. And what's funny is if 829 00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:08.159 when you hear him in interviews, like he sounds just 830 00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:12.960 like his dad. Oh really, oh yeah, oh funny, very 831 00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:17.199 very similar. But I mean I'm glad that, like he 832 00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:19.840 is talented, right, I mean obviously there's there's the knock 833 00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:23.079 on NEPO babies. Sure, but you look at like a 834 00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:27.000 Jason Reightman or a Jake kast and and you're like, 835 00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:28.039 well they got the goods. 836 00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:34.360 Yeah, you know it happens. This is a good song too. 837 00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:35.400 This one's like really a beat. 838 00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:37.320 Yeah. 839 00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:39.960 I feel like I had the soundtrack like it was 840 00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:44.119 something during Award season. You know, you'd get all these 841 00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:47.519 screeners and sometimes they used to give you the soundtracks 842 00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:51.280 like they'd be in Variety Magazine, the disc and I 843 00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:53.840 kind of remember like having this at my desk for 844 00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:55.159 some reason, and I'd put it in my car and 845 00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:55.679 I'd listen to it. 846 00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:59.000 Sometimes I have the album in my library. I listened 847 00:43:59.000 --> 00:43:59.599 to it all the time. 848 00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:04.159 Yeah, they're like good, good song, catchy songs. Yeah. 849 00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:06.760 It's you know when you think about it, right, it's 850 00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:12.199 like it's like the songs in South Park, Bigger, Longer, uncut, hmmm, right, 851 00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:15.679 Like they're good songs. What would Brian Boitano do? 852 00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:19.199 Yeah, that one slaps totally does. Yeah. 853 00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:22.920 Right, it's that same thing, like the songs have to 854 00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:23.800 be good, you know. 855 00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:29.920 Well, you know I was curious, Well I should say 856 00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:32.519 one more stat I had here was they wrote a 857 00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:37.039 one hundred songs, wow, and they recorded fifty. So that's 858 00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:39.039 so going back to what we were saying, you know, 859 00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:41.840 where this movie didn't land and the people who were 860 00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:44.119 involved I think were kind of like, ugh, like kind 861 00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:46.800 of crushed. I mean, you can tell this there was 862 00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:50.440 so much passion put into this, right, I mean I 863 00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:52.880 think about this sometimes with this is so random, but 864 00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:56.400 with Star Wars, where when that movie is being made, 865 00:44:56.519 --> 00:45:01.440 George Lucas probably thought, if I live by the time 866 00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:03.840 this is finished making this movie and it comes out 867 00:45:03.880 --> 00:45:04.679 and anyone sees. 868 00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:05.840 It, that'll be a success. Right. 869 00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:07.719 You know, his crew thought this movie was going to 870 00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:10.599 be terrible, and they weren't supporting him, and of course 871 00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:12.800 it becomes what it becomes, and there's just been a 872 00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:19.239 never ending supply of behind the scenes photographs and footage 873 00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:20.719 and whatever. And I'm like, wow, how did they know 874 00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:22.880 to even do all that if it wasn't even being 875 00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.280 taken seriously when it was being made. So I think 876 00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:28.320 about all the movies that don't live on, right, and 877 00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:30.239 how much they must have believed in it and probably 878 00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:31.800 shot this stuff because they're like, well, the fans are 879 00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:33.400 gonna want to see this and go behind the scenes 880 00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:36.280 with us, right, you know, but it just wasn't meant 881 00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:38.519 to be. And so I think of this movie where 882 00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:40.639 it's like, man, they made so many songs, that put 883 00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:44.239 all this effort into it, and it's just too bad 884 00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:44.880 that it didn't. 885 00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:48.519 It died on the vine. It died on the vine. Yeah, 886 00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:52.320 but the passion is you can just feel it well, And. 887 00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:55.480 You know, I think this is similar in many ways 888 00:45:55.519 --> 00:46:03.199 to Office Space, which is another comedy that was ahead 889 00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:06.719 of its time. Right, the audience eventually found it. It 890 00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:12.639 died in ignominious death at the box office, right, but 891 00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:15.360 people came around, right, and yeah, yeah, And you know 892 00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:17.679 this is something John c Riley has talked about where 893 00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:22.119 it's like, well, given the choice between like a massive 894 00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:26.199 box office hit and a beloved cult hit, you know, 895 00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:28.599 if you can only pick one, you know, it's not 896 00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:31.400 so bad to be a beloved cult hit where the 897 00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:33.000 people who love it really love it. 898 00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:35.480 Yeah, And you know, they probably had to make a 899 00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:37.719 lot of hard decisions and fight a lot of battles 900 00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:40.880 as they were making them to make them as specific 901 00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:43.800 and you know, the voice of Office Space is so 902 00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:46.760 Mike Judge and this is so whatever, this is right. 903 00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:49.119 And maybe when it came out and it didn't do well, 904 00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:51.119 they might have thought, oh man, maybe we should have 905 00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:52.880 made this a broader comedy, and yeah, it would have 906 00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.440 brought more people in. But I think you know, time 907 00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:59.519 proves that they were right, and the right people, you know, 908 00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:01.639 to enjoy this kind of thing get. 909 00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:02.039 To enjoy it. 910 00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:05.199 Well, that that's the thing, right, Like, because it's it's like, 911 00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:13.440 how many forgettable like mid Level you know, Jason Biggs 912 00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:18.840 or Dane Cook comedies came out in the nineties and oughts, 913 00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:25.199 you know, right, just just Walmart Bargain Bin movies right 914 00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:30.440 that sucked and are forgotten right, right, And and you 915 00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:33.000 have to imagine for many of them. I'm not discounting 916 00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:34.719 the level of passion that went into them, but I'm 917 00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:38.039 also fairly certain that there was a lot of studio 918 00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:41.880 mandated compromises that went in. It's like you end up 919 00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:45.159 with neither fish nor foul, right, you know? That was 920 00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:48.239 so funny. She's like, don't you write a song right now? 921 00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:52.280 Yeah? Fine, I'm guilty. Guilty is charged. 922 00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:58.280 To where he starts yelling at the kids, I don't 923 00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:00.000 need you. I don't need you. 924 00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:06.280 Oh I guess yeah, he's got a chimp or whatever, 925 00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:08.119 which is like Michael Jackson. 926 00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:08.679 That's right. 927 00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:12.639 So the bit here is that he went ahead and 928 00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:15.119 got married, not realizing that you're not allowed to marry 929 00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:17.039 somebody while you're already married. 930 00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:21.599 Right. It's very funny, I know. 931 00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:23.920 But it's just in his perfect sort of dopey voice 932 00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:25.519 where he like doesn't know any better. He's like, I 933 00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:28.440 did it, you know, wait until we were married, did it? 934 00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:33.880 Right? Can't be married to two people? That's not a 935 00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:36.039 bad title. But please don't leave me. 936 00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:53.599 I had forgot about his sink ripping. Yeah thing, the monkey. 937 00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:55.840 You don't want no part of this shit. 938 00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:02.400 He's like, the know, logical next step for you, right, 939 00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:09.000 I think I think what you were saying earlier about 940 00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:12.639 how like like people try to break out of the 941 00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:15.639 box of music biopicks or just buy a picks in 942 00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:19.000 general and do something little different, and and those movies 943 00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:22.320 have have variable levels of success, you know. I think 944 00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:27.760 that speaks to like people know what they want, even 945 00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:30.719 if it's utterly predictable totally. 946 00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:33.840 I mean, with the upcoming Michael movie, which we haven't 947 00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:37.440 seen yet, I could probably outline it for you right now, 948 00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:41.199 but like I I want to see that, right, you 949 00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:42.840 know what I mean, certain things I just I do 950 00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:46.679 want to see dramatized, you know. Yeah, so you know 951 00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:51.000 you just have to pick your case pack with your cases. 952 00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:54.920 What you realize is the majority of these films are 953 00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:59.440 produced with the ascent of the families and or the 954 00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:05.800 rights whole love music, who want to sell some music, right, 955 00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:09.079 you know? And and so for example Bohemian Rhapsody, how 956 00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:10.760 many soundtrack albums did that sell? 957 00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:12.280 Right? Right? Right? 958 00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:14.960 I mean that's the real measure of success, above and beyond. 959 00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:17.480 You know, Ronie Malock winning an oscar in the movie Winning, 960 00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:21.320 you know, like that's all fine, but but this is 961 00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:25.719 about it's about investing in an annuity that'll that'll pay 962 00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:28.280 dividends down the line. So so, I mean my point 963 00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.639 is this, like these movies are products to a large extent. 964 00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:35.480 They vary some I mean some some go through the 965 00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:39.000 paces with a little bit more skill than others. Sure, 966 00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:44.280 but you know, my question is how how often are 967 00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:48.320 they revisited? And does that even matter? Yeah, you know, 968 00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:51.119 like like like Ray right, which I thought was a 969 00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:56.800 good movie. I mean I watched it one time. I 970 00:50:56.840 --> 00:51:00.760 got it, like I got you know, right right right right, 971 00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:02.960 Like that's not even a critique of the movie. I 972 00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:06.039 think it does the job. But like they in general, 973 00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:09.679 they're not really built for return visits. 974 00:51:11.239 --> 00:51:17.719 Yeah, I'm realizing that as you say that, because they 975 00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:22.119 hit similar beats, they're just plugged in different artists and 976 00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:22.679 other movies. 977 00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:23.880 I'm trying to think of an example. 978 00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:27.480 But like, there'll be a certain there's certain moments that 979 00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:31.239 I connect with, you know, are something that meant something 980 00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:33.599 to me or revealed something to me or inspired me, 981 00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:36.440 and that's why I go back to. 982 00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:37.199 Those certain movies. 983 00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:39.599 But those movies don't necessarily do that because they are 984 00:51:39.639 --> 00:51:40.280 a little bit of. 985 00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:43.199 A mad libs satisfying mad libs. 986 00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:47.960 But they don't have things that are maybe very unique, 987 00:51:48.440 --> 00:51:49.519 that really connect with you. 988 00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:55.760 Yeah, I mean again like Bohemian Rhapsody. How many times 989 00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:56.960 have you seen that since the theater? 990 00:51:57.199 --> 00:52:00.800 I mean yeah, just the ones? Yeah right, yeah, yeah, 991 00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:01.239 that's it. 992 00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:03.760 I mean I remember leaving the theater downloading the album 993 00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:05.800 to my phone, you know. 994 00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:08.239 And then maybe when it's on TV or something, you 995 00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:10.079 flip and it's you you stop on it because you 996 00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:10.599 want to hear the. 997 00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:14.400 Music, that's right, you know, the thing with Bohemian And 998 00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:17.440 by then I had seen Dewey Cox, yes, yes, and 999 00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:20.360 so like I couldn't. I like, all I could see 1000 00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:23.519 was was you know that that template? 1001 00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:24.280 Mm hmm. 1002 00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:26.599 This cracks me up. This so first of all, to 1003 00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:30.599 the point you're making, how how effectively stylistically it it 1004 00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:32.760 evokes the same sequence in Ray. 1005 00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:33.480 Yeah. 1006 00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:36.519 Yeah, But it all comes down to its either got 1007 00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:38.239 too many blankets or not enough blankets? 1008 00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:41.159 I think, Yeah, the woman playing this nurse is very funny. 1009 00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:46.679 He needs more blankets, he needs fewer blankets. 1010 00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:50.719 Where Dave is like my wife sends to recards, asshole, 1011 00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:56.239 they don't they don't even like they don't dwell on 1012 00:52:56.320 --> 00:53:01.760 that too long that he keeps cheating with his bandmates, which. 1013 00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:05.000 Comes from I was looking up. I thought of George 1014 00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:07.360 Harrison and Eric Clapton. There was that whole sort of 1015 00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:10.760 weird triangle going on there with their wives and then 1016 00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:13.519 or whatever that was, I don't know what shape. And 1017 00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:19.800 then also wait, I love this by the way. It 1018 00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:21.480 feels like that was like take five and he's like, 1019 00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:29.280 that'd be funny. But Mac Davis, who was a songwriter, 1020 00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:34.920 used to write hits for Glenn Campbell. I guess Davis's 1021 00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:39.239 wife left him for Campbell. Wow, and it became like this. 1022 00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:42.400 It was like a big story. Okay, so you know, 1023 00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:44.679 I mean there are examples of this and that's another 1024 00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:46.719 just riff that they're doing here on Well. 1025 00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:49.599 It's funny because this is something John c Riley has 1026 00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:52.440 talked about where like people in the music industry are like, man, 1027 00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:56.199 walk hard is tame compared to this stuff that actually 1028 00:53:56.239 --> 00:53:56.519 goes on. 1029 00:53:57.320 --> 00:53:57.599 Jeez. 1030 00:53:57.639 --> 00:53:59.840 You know he talked about Glenn Fry being like, oh, 1031 00:53:59.880 --> 00:54:01.960 you didn't see the Eagles and all the stuff that 1032 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:02.760 was going on you. 1033 00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:05.920 Know at that time, the Eagles of all people. Yeah, 1034 00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:09.440 that's what exactly. That's the first one I was thinking of. 1035 00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:14.679 This is funny. They're sort of. 1036 00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:18.920 Like leaning in and backing away over and over. 1037 00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:29.559 There's her expression. They're so good. No, no, well, yeah, 1038 00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:29.880 I mean. 1039 00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:31.840 This is like literally Jennie Fisher talked about She's like 1040 00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:36.679 she played it like she was trying to win an oscar. Yeah, 1041 00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:37.880 and that's what makes it funny. 1042 00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:49.119 Yeah. 1043 00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:51.159 So she keeps like hitting him in the crotch and 1044 00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:53.320 hitting him in the face with the shoe and stuff. 1045 00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:55.199 People listening like, what's going on? 1046 00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:56.719 I know, I know, I don't know. 1047 00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:00.800 Now they're basically yeah, yeah, they got this is not 1048 00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:02.480 just a solid gag, you. 1049 00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:05.679 Know, so do we John c Riley pulls his shirt 1050 00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:07.320 off and we have a cutaway to a big, a 1051 00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:08.559 muscle bound. 1052 00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:12.199 Not John c Riley. 1053 00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:15.760 Yeah, clearly, Yeah, like got a six pack, it's oiled up. 1054 00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:26.400 Is this the of a Manson thing? So they're like, oh, yeah, 1055 00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:27.880 where's doing He's Oh, he's hanging out on the barn 1056 00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:28.800 with Charlie Manson. 1057 00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:29.360 Nice guy. 1058 00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:33.679 So did you know this whole connection between Charles Manson 1059 00:55:33.679 --> 00:55:38.280 and the Beach Boys. No, So that's what this is 1060 00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:42.239 riffing on basically, And I've kind of, you know, I'm 1061 00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:44.719 reading off of like some website or something. But in 1062 00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:48.360 nineteen sixty eight, the Beach Boys drummer Dennis Wilson, he 1063 00:55:48.440 --> 00:55:52.760 became friends with Charles Manson, Okay, and so then he 1064 00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:56.119 started letting like the Manson people live at his home. 1065 00:55:56.440 --> 00:55:58.400 But they like destroyed the place, brought in all these 1066 00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:03.039 drugs cost him like a ton of money. But as 1067 00:56:03.079 --> 00:56:05.159 he let those people into the Beach Boys circle, they 1068 00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:09.960 actually recorded a song that Manson wrote called Cease to Exist, 1069 00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:13.039 Oh my gosh. Yeah, and then later they retitled it 1070 00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:17.039 never Learn Not to Love and release it in sixty 1071 00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:18.760 eight as a as a I guess a B side 1072 00:56:18.840 --> 00:56:22.239 or something. So that's like a weird sort of dark 1073 00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:23.400 footnote in the Beach Boys. 1074 00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:24.559 Hilly Yeah. 1075 00:56:24.679 --> 00:56:26.360 I only learned about that a couple of years ago. 1076 00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:31.360 So anyway, yeah, Manson, I mean he wanted to be 1077 00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:34.840 a musician. Yeah, so he warmed his way into at 1078 00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:35.559 least one band. 1079 00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:41.239 Now. What's also funny is that it's nineteen sixty six right. 1080 00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:43.480 Right now in the movie. 1081 00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:47.599 Yeah, in this point, Yeah, it's sixty I think it's 1082 00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:54.360 sixty six, Yeah it is. And Dewey Dewey is thirty, 1083 00:56:54.920 --> 00:56:59.199 like right right right, and yet he's done all this 1084 00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:03.400 living right right right, the rehab and you name it. 1085 00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:04.559 What. 1086 00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:06.320 I like that he goes through all these it's like 1087 00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:08.480 spinal tap right where they started as sort of like 1088 00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:12.159 a flower Power type of band before they eventually got 1089 00:57:12.199 --> 00:57:14.280 to heavy metal. And I like that he goes through 1090 00:57:14.280 --> 00:57:17.800 all these different genres, like this is hysterical, this is 1091 00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:18.599 Bob Dylan. 1092 00:57:18.440 --> 00:57:19.360 The whole Bob Dylan thing. 1093 00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:21.800 Yeah, and just the way his posture and the way 1094 00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:23.679 that it looks like it's on grainy black and white. 1095 00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:26.360 It's so funny. That's that's the thing. 1096 00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:30.920 I mean, it has to incredibly evoke what it's what 1097 00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:33.840 it's satirizing, mm hmm. But it has to be funny 1098 00:57:33.840 --> 00:57:36.079 even if you don't know specifically what it satirized. 1099 00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:38.199 Yeah, right, right right. 1100 00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:40.559 It's a little bit like like Simpson's gags, which we 1101 00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:43.679 talk about all the time, right where it's like later on, 1102 00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:47.519 like maybe a decade later, you'll you'll get the reference. 1103 00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:51.360 But the joke was funny anyway, totally. 1104 00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:55.039 I saw a thing on Instagram that was trying to 1105 00:57:55.079 --> 00:57:56.880 demonstrate that, and they were showing, you know how the 1106 00:57:56.920 --> 00:57:59.920 mister Plow episode is based on the movie Sorcerer, which 1107 00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:02.280 I didn't even know existed to like you know, like 1108 00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:03.840 twenty ten or something. 1109 00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:07.400 And they showed like side by side. 1110 00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:10.880 They literally copy moments from that movie, but they don't 1111 00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:13.639 need you to know that movie, right, Like they're making 1112 00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:16.920 funny moments like the plow dangling off the cliff and 1113 00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:19.440 Homer being able to get it to stop dangling by 1114 00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:21.400 turning the radio knob a certain way. 1115 00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:24.159 That's just funny. But then when you learn. 1116 00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:26.719 What Sorcerer is, you're like, oh, and there's another layer 1117 00:58:26.760 --> 00:58:28.000 to it, you know. 1118 00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:28.800 Yeah, I mean. 1119 00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:32.679 Early Simpsons was really good at that m right. This, 1120 00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:35.039 I mean, this is the like I don't want to 1121 00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:39.559 pylon modern day Simpsons, but like, you know, just recently 1122 00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:43.320 they did they did a bit where Santa's little helper 1123 00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:45.559 gets sick, so they take him to the vet, and 1124 00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:49.079 the vet is basically the Pit from from the Pit, right, 1125 00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:53.320 so you got you know, Catherine Lanassa and Noah Wiley 1126 00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:56.639 and Taylor Dard and playing their characters, and it's like, 1127 00:58:56.719 --> 00:58:58.920 it's like funny if you've seen the Pit, it's funny, right, 1128 00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:00.920 But I had that thought watching it. I was like, 1129 00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:04.400 in ten years, this isn't gonna play the same way. 1130 00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:07.519 Mmmm. Because the joke is that it's. 1131 00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:12.199 The pit right right now, right, and there used to 1132 00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:14.719 be a little more layers to the humor. 1133 00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:20.079 Well it should. I mean this scene with the Beatles, yep. 1134 00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:23.159 You know, anyone who hasn't watched this movie, you can 1135 00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:25.000 at least look this scene up on YouTube. 1136 00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:28.039 Walk hard the Beatles. Yep. It's just so funny. 1137 00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:30.920 And this is such inspired casting, isn't it Just as 1138 00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:34.639 long as George Harrison. I mean he could like really 1139 00:59:34.639 --> 00:59:35.159 play him. 1140 00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:38.960 Yeah, and Jack Black is Paul McCartney. 1141 00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:42.039 That's pretty brilliant. 1142 00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:43.679 I gotta say, yeah. 1143 00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:45.760 And they're all doing I mean, his is probably the 1144 00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:49.440 weakest impersonation, but like it's it's right for this movie. 1145 00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:51.440 But for this movie it works. Yeah. Yeah. But Paul 1146 00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:54.960 Rudd is like kind of doing a funny John Lennon voice. Yep, 1147 00:59:55.320 --> 00:59:57.760 you know, great rec. 1148 01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:04.960 You know, apropos of Paul Rudd. I was reading a 1149 01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:09.079 thing about how when Steve Corell was shooting a forty 1150 01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:12.119 year old virgin, he was, you know, in the process 1151 01:00:12.280 --> 01:00:16.519 of auditioning for the Office, and Paul Rudd was like, dude, 1152 01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:19.840 don't don't do that. You're just going to ruin your career. 1153 01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:25.760 No one will be able to look past the original show, right, 1154 01:00:26.360 --> 01:00:30.079 and you talk about like the benefit of hindsight, Like, 1155 01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:34.280 let's be real, the original show has become somewhat of 1156 01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:35.920 a footnote to American Office. 1157 01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:41.199 Yeah right, yeah, I mean that those things exactly you'd 1158 01:00:41.280 --> 01:00:44.199 never know you just don't know, you know. 1159 01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:46.440 Can you imagine if like and and the thing about 1160 01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:49.880 that is who but Steve Corell could have could have 1161 01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:50.719 been in that, you. 1162 01:00:50.679 --> 01:00:54.079 Know, yeah, and he's what Yeah, without him, maybe it 1163 01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:59.440 wouldn't have been that right exactly. He elevated it. I mean, 1164 01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:02.519 they all did all. They're all it's perfect casting that show. 1165 01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:06.079 It should not have worked because because certainly I remember 1166 01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:08.199 when it started and it was like, oh, America, they're 1167 01:01:08.239 --> 01:01:11.760 just gonna ruin it, you know, and for once America 1168 01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:15.800 didn't ruin something. Everybody we did not ruin the Office. 1169 01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:18.360 By the way, I love the Maharishi where he's like, 1170 01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:23.239 Beatles stop fighting here in India. 1171 01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:27.920 This scene made me think of the you know, at 1172 01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:34.079 this moment, upcoming four movie Beatles franchise that we have 1173 01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:39.679 coming right, which one movie each devoted to the respective 1174 01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:45.440 band members, which, man, I I have no idea how 1175 01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:46.239 that's gonna work. 1176 01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:50.159 Same but I would love for it to succeed. Yeah, 1177 01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:54.599 all the same year, right, Yeah, I think weeks apart. 1178 01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:56.239 That is just wild. 1179 01:01:56.679 --> 01:01:57.480 It's a big swing. 1180 01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:00.159 But if they're good, I mean, if they if they land, 1181 01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:02.760 you know, word here do we like? 1182 01:02:02.760 --> 01:02:04.199 What order are they coming out in? 1183 01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:06.840 Yeah? I don't know, right, because I'm. 1184 01:02:06.719 --> 01:02:10.280 Thinking you gotta lead with you gotta lead with your 1185 01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:14.760 your Ringo mmmm, and then build up to your John 1186 01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:15.239 and Paul. 1187 01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:20.000 You know, I almost would think maybe bookend it like 1188 01:02:20.199 --> 01:02:22.320 with John and Paul, and you get Ringo as the 1189 01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:25.159 one that's like number three, and it surprises everyone. It 1190 01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:29.639 becomes everyone's favorite, you know, because he's so amiable and 1191 01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:31.920 you know, you like spending time with him. 1192 01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:33.079 I don't know, that's just a guess. 1193 01:02:33.079 --> 01:02:37.000 But by the way, so this riff on Yellow Submarine, 1194 01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:40.519 this sort of psychedelic yeah, sixties animation. 1195 01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:41.800 Have you seen Yellow Submarine? 1196 01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:42.400 No? 1197 01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:45.000 Oh really, no, have you I have? 1198 01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:45.360 Yeah? 1199 01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:46.840 I saw I saw it in a film class in 1200 01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:47.440 high school. 1201 01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:48.280 Is it any good? 1202 01:02:50.039 --> 01:02:52.840 It's trippy, man, I mean, this isn't far removed from 1203 01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:53.920 from the way that movie is. 1204 01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:56.719 I'm having I just it doesn't seem like something I 1205 01:02:56.760 --> 01:02:57.679 would really want to see. 1206 01:02:57.679 --> 01:03:00.519 For ninety minutes. Yeah, but I I could be wrong. 1207 01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:06.000 It's he's a good RINGO. 1208 01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:09.719 He's pretty good. Have you seen you've seen the other 1209 01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:10.400 Beatle movies? 1210 01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:12.199 Right, I've seen Hard Days Nights? 1211 01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:13.280 Okay, you haven't seen Help. 1212 01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:14.920 I don't think i've seen Help. 1213 01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:18.760 Yeah, I've only seen Hard Day's Night. I mean, between 1214 01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:22.920 Yellow Submarine and Hard Day's Night, I prefer Hard Day's Night. 1215 01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:25.320 But O, yeah, they're doing two very different things. 1216 01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:26.480 Yeah. 1217 01:03:26.719 --> 01:03:32.159 Yeah, yeah, he's he's like been solid forever. 1218 01:03:33.360 --> 01:03:35.039 You plug him in, you're gonna get a good performance. 1219 01:03:35.079 --> 01:03:37.519 I'm just like, look at Crumb holds here and then 1220 01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:40.559 you remember him and Oppenheimer just a few years ago. 1221 01:03:40.760 --> 01:03:43.440 M hm, yeah, you talk about a guy who's gone 1222 01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:46.000 from child actor. He had like a penis drawn on 1223 01:03:46.039 --> 01:03:48.159 his face and ten things I hate about you right 1224 01:03:49.360 --> 01:03:52.559 to now he's he's like, hey, Oppenheimer, maybe don't build 1225 01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:53.599 the bomb? You know. 1226 01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:56.639 Yeah. 1227 01:03:56.800 --> 01:03:58.920 Yeah, he has like kind of a speech later in 1228 01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:00.639 this movie where I was like, man, he's given a 1229 01:04:00.679 --> 01:04:02.480 really good performance. 1230 01:04:02.719 --> 01:04:05.559 Yeah, he's a good actor. I've always liked him. He 1231 01:04:05.639 --> 01:04:08.400 was on that show Numbers. Do you remember I remember it? 1232 01:04:08.440 --> 01:04:14.519 I haven't seen it, man, you know, a broken record time, 1233 01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:19.880 just creative, create a creat a procedural with something of 1234 01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:24.159 a quirky premise, sell it to CBS, and just sit 1235 01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:25.840 on the porch sip and mint julips. 1236 01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:28.800 For the rest of you are someday, man, someday. 1237 01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:33.119 It's like, what if we have a math teacher whose 1238 01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:36.039 brother is an FBI agent they solve crimes together. 1239 01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:41.199 Sold dude. 1240 01:04:41.199 --> 01:04:43.360 By the way, this is like, low key, my favorite 1241 01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:48.079 gag in the entire movie, This Brian Wilson era. Yeah, oh, brilliant, 1242 01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:53.199 just so brilliant, like this late well, late sixties moment 1243 01:04:53.239 --> 01:04:56.000 Brian Wilson thing where he was trying to experiment sonically, 1244 01:04:57.320 --> 01:04:59.760 you know, and big wall of sound and so you 1245 01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:04.639 see Dewey he's got like an aboriginal choir and goats 1246 01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:08.719 and people banging large bells and I love I love 1247 01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:11.159 the guitarist where he's like, it sounds like five songs 1248 01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:14.840 on top of each other, and I mean the song 1249 01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:18.239 itself sounds like a Brian Wilson song, like in that 1250 01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:22.119 later kind of crazy chaotic rounding era, the Smile when 1251 01:05:22.119 --> 01:05:24.280 he's trying to do Smile and it just kept going 1252 01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:27.239 and going and was never finished. It's just I mean 1253 01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:29.920 that's the thing, Like I think it is funny on 1254 01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:33.599 the surface, but like knowing what they're doing here and 1255 01:05:33.639 --> 01:05:37.480 how well they're doing it is just so satisfying and delightful. 1256 01:05:37.800 --> 01:05:38.000 Right. 1257 01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:39.639 Well, it's given I mean, it's kind of what we 1258 01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:41.960 were saying with Simpsons, right, it's given you multiple layers 1259 01:05:41.960 --> 01:05:42.559 to appreciate. 1260 01:05:42.920 --> 01:05:45.400 Yeah. 1261 01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:47.599 By the way, we've mentioned the other band members. You know, 1262 01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:50.159 Matt Besser as Dave. He is really funny in this 1263 01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:53.559 as just perpetually exasperated guy. 1264 01:05:53.840 --> 01:05:55.880 Yes. Yeah, his face says it. 1265 01:05:55.840 --> 01:06:06.480 All yep, Chris Barno and he just explodes. 1266 01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:11.960 And I love the Yeah. 1267 01:06:12.119 --> 01:06:14.840 He never once paid for drugs, not once, not once. 1268 01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:22.159 He never once paid for drugs. 1269 01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:23.119 Daves like I have to borrow from the gym to 1270 01:06:23.199 --> 01:06:24.239 pay for my mortgage. 1271 01:06:27.519 --> 01:06:29.920 I love too that he keeps giving him Siamese Glass 1272 01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:30.840 cats his gifts. 1273 01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:38.159 I don't want anymore Siamese Glass cats. Have cats paid 1274 01:06:38.159 --> 01:06:40.840 for drugs? Not once once. 1275 01:06:43.519 --> 01:06:49.199 He slept with me, tookes. 1276 01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:58.119 For ten years. No once. Oh man. 1277 01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:01.760 But see you'll go back to John John c Riley 1278 01:07:02.199 --> 01:07:04.760 like he's doing the comedy so sort of like Leslie Nielsen, 1279 01:07:05.360 --> 01:07:08.159 he knows the right way to sort of well to 1280 01:07:08.280 --> 01:07:10.199 like ring a laugh, but he knows when to be 1281 01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:15.159 completely straight too. And he's performing in this movie. He's 1282 01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:20.599 singing all these songs. I mean, this is a really amazing, 1283 01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:25.199 like underappreciated performance from him. 1284 01:07:25.519 --> 01:07:25.840 Yeah. 1285 01:07:25.880 --> 01:07:28.679 Well, I think that's just an outgrowth of the fact 1286 01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:30.440 that nobody watched this movie when it came out. 1287 01:07:32.079 --> 01:07:34.199 Yeah, but I mean even yeah, it's just too bad 1288 01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:35.880 that it's not one of the things I think that 1289 01:07:35.960 --> 01:07:37.639 gets brought up with him a lot, because I think 1290 01:07:37.639 --> 01:07:38.760 this is a real achievement. 1291 01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:41.920 Yeah, you know, I remember when it came. 1292 01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:45.159 Out, the Aboriginal singing, oh sorry, let me come back. 1293 01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:48.519 Yeah, just walking into an argument, just slowly backs away, 1294 01:07:48.519 --> 01:07:53.639 he shuts the doors, just random. When this came out, 1295 01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:57.239 I think the writer's strike was happening, okay, or some 1296 01:07:57.440 --> 01:07:59.719 there's some sort of actor strike or whatever it was. 1297 01:08:00.039 --> 01:08:00.519 What was it? 1298 01:08:01.079 --> 01:08:02.920 I was there was something and they couldn't promote it 1299 01:08:02.920 --> 01:08:04.199 the way that they wanted to, Like, they couldn't go 1300 01:08:04.199 --> 01:08:07.000 on talk shows. Okay, must have been must have been 1301 01:08:07.039 --> 01:08:09.679 a writer strike then, yeah, act actress right, Yeah, writer 1302 01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:12.760 strike was O eight, I believe, Yeah, yeah, or I 1303 01:08:12.760 --> 01:08:14.400 think it might have started to O seven. Maybe it 1304 01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:18.800 was Maybe it was because talk shows couldn't. 1305 01:08:18.319 --> 01:08:21.319 Oh that's going Oh you know that that makes sense? Actually, yeah, 1306 01:08:21.439 --> 01:08:23.119 might have might have that, might that might be it. 1307 01:08:23.239 --> 01:08:23.399 Yeah. 1308 01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:25.199 So the way that they tried to be creative and 1309 01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:28.840 promote this was they did a tour Okay, like seven 1310 01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:30.520 or eight stocks across the country. 1311 01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:31.640 We talked about that now. 1312 01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:34.319 Yeah Riley performing as do we cos juey cos I 1313 01:08:34.399 --> 01:08:37.079 really wanted to catch it and I didn't, but I 1314 01:08:37.079 --> 01:08:38.439 think that would have been really fun to see all 1315 01:08:38.439 --> 01:08:39.520 these songs performed live. 1316 01:08:41.119 --> 01:08:45.319 It's interesting how the times have changed, right where the 1317 01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:47.399 notion of oh, we can't go on late night talk 1318 01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:49.279 shows to promote this thing, it's gonna flop. 1319 01:08:49.800 --> 01:08:51.119 Yeah, it affects box office. 1320 01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:53.039 Yeah, like we don't live in that world anymore. 1321 01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:55.039 You know. That is a really good point. It's like 1322 01:08:55.039 --> 01:08:56.760 what viral thing can we get online? Now? 1323 01:08:57.239 --> 01:09:00.119 Basically? I mean that's all people watch, right, Yeah, Oh, 1324 01:09:00.399 --> 01:09:03.560 let's just like eat chicken wings that are getting hot 1325 01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:07.159 and yeah, millions of people will watch it. 1326 01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:12.720 That's really funny because I remember with the fallon his 1327 01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:15.960 thing kind of I don't know if he started it necessarily, 1328 01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:18.119 but it was like the guests came on, but they 1329 01:09:18.119 --> 01:09:19.119 had to play games. 1330 01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:20.439 It'd be like you're. 1331 01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:22.760 Tom Cruise and you're promoting, you know, if you're a 1332 01:09:22.800 --> 01:09:25.000 Mission Impossible or something, but you got to get in 1333 01:09:25.079 --> 01:09:27.840 like an inflatable pool, yeah, you know, and play some 1334 01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:29.600 sort of game where you scored each other with like 1335 01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:31.960 you know, greepe jelly or something like that's going on 1336 01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:34.640 the Tonight show. Now, that's right, And then I mean 1337 01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:37.399 that feels suited for a shorter format where it's like, well, 1338 01:09:37.399 --> 01:09:39.920 skip the talk show, just show the celebrity playing the game, 1339 01:09:39.960 --> 01:09:41.720 and then you get, yeah, the hot ones and things 1340 01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:42.119 like that. 1341 01:09:42.960 --> 01:09:47.039 Like that's that's how far we've come from the the 1342 01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:51.079 Johnny Carson days, you know, mm hmm, you know what 1343 01:09:51.159 --> 01:09:51.439 I mean. 1344 01:09:52.079 --> 01:09:55.239 We're yeah, we're just be Burt Reynolds and Mark Summer's yeah, 1345 01:09:55.359 --> 01:09:56.560 he duking it out. 1346 01:09:57.600 --> 01:10:01.239 We're gonna play the Smoky in the Bandaid Arcade game here, 1347 01:10:01.520 --> 01:10:05.399 yeah yeah, right, right right right As Dom DeLuise is 1348 01:10:05.439 --> 01:10:09.000 like the back just running back and forth. 1349 01:10:10.479 --> 01:10:14.199 That makes me think of like Chris Farley, right, he's 1350 01:10:14.279 --> 01:10:15.960 just like, wheeze, laughing. 1351 01:10:18.920 --> 01:10:19.119 Dude. 1352 01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:22.119 Jonah Hill as grown up Nate hilarious. 1353 01:10:22.159 --> 01:10:29.520 So funny and he's just an asshole. That's yeah. Yeah, 1354 01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:29.800 you know. 1355 01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:32.560 I mean, like I've liked Jonah Hill throughout the years. 1356 01:10:32.600 --> 01:10:35.479 He's kind of evolved into different sorts of things, but 1357 01:10:35.600 --> 01:10:39.319 this moment for him, you know, super Bad, this. 1358 01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:42.920 Pre Academy Award nominee Jonah. 1359 01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:45.359 Maybe that's it, but like, he just really cracked me up. 1360 01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:48.159 I liked when he was doing this kind of comedy. Well, 1361 01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:49.880 I love the way he says machete too. 1362 01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:54.399 He's like with a machete. I mean this is like 1363 01:10:54.520 --> 01:10:58.680 super Bad era. Yeah, yeah, yeah, same here, right. 1364 01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:02.239 He and he was the babysitter wouldn't at him? 1365 01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:05.039 That was yeah, maybe a couple of years later. 1366 01:11:05.119 --> 01:11:08.960 Right, and then Wolf of Wall Street was a twenty eleven. 1367 01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:10.920 Right, yeah, somewhere around maybe fourteen. 1368 01:11:13.119 --> 01:11:16.439 Okay, so what was oh Moneyball that was twenty eleven. 1369 01:11:16.720 --> 01:11:18.520 Yeah, that feels right, right. 1370 01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:21.920 So that's when he starts moving into like dramatic actor mode, 1371 01:11:22.239 --> 01:11:26.279 right right. It's interesting. Yeah, yeah, like he's still I 1372 01:11:26.319 --> 01:11:28.359 mean when he does comed he's still finny. I think 1373 01:11:28.359 --> 01:11:32.960 I think this is the end. He's hilarious. And yeah, yeah, 1374 01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:35.000 obviously the Jump Street movies. 1375 01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:38.000 Oh yeah, those have been on Pluto lately. Oh okay, 1376 01:11:38.119 --> 01:11:40.039 like cycling, and I always stop on them and they 1377 01:11:40.119 --> 01:11:40.920 always crack me up. 1378 01:11:41.680 --> 01:11:46.439 Those I mean the scene in the first one where 1379 01:11:46.520 --> 01:11:50.399 it's they're in Nick Offerman's office and Channing Tatum doesn't 1380 01:11:50.439 --> 01:11:54.000 know the Miranda rights. Yeah right, right right, it's brilliant, 1381 01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:55.600 cracks me up. And then I've said this before so 1382 01:11:55.640 --> 01:11:58.159 many times, but the scene in the second one where 1383 01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:04.600 I iced tea ice cube excuse me, finds out that 1384 01:12:04.600 --> 01:12:07.479 that Jonah Hill slept with his daughter, yes, yeah or 1385 01:12:07.880 --> 01:12:13.199 no chanting, it's Tatum Channing Channing Tatum realizes what Ice 1386 01:12:13.560 --> 01:12:14.359 has figured out. 1387 01:12:14.640 --> 01:12:15.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1388 01:12:16.079 --> 01:12:18.720 I that's probably the hardest I've ever laughed in my life. 1389 01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:21.000 Like I thought I was gonna pass out from laughing 1390 01:12:21.039 --> 01:12:21.319 so hard. 1391 01:12:21.880 --> 01:12:24.920 Yeah. Yeah. 1392 01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:27.239 So this whole Variety show that they do, it's such 1393 01:12:27.399 --> 01:12:30.640 it's such a perfect evocation of what you would see 1394 01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:34.560 in that era, like your Sonny and Cher and you know, 1395 01:12:34.600 --> 01:12:38.039 Flip Wilson and Brady Bunch of Variety show, you know, 1396 01:12:38.119 --> 01:12:39.880 like that that type. 1397 01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:44.960 Yeah, like taking doing covers of songs, beturning them disco. 1398 01:12:45.439 --> 01:12:48.359 Yeah, and doing like comedy skits that aren't particularly funny. 1399 01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:52.000 Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And Johnny Cash did have 1400 01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:54.800 a show kind of like this, the Johnny Cash Show, 1401 01:12:56.279 --> 01:12:59.520 And I think this is a riff on it more broadly, 1402 01:12:59.640 --> 01:13:02.399 you know, like Sonny and Share right like this. I 1403 01:13:02.439 --> 01:13:07.680 love this these graphics, yeah, like the sort of disco starman. 1404 01:13:07.880 --> 01:13:10.079 You know, it's weird. 1405 01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:12.720 Because because it points to a time when TV was 1406 01:13:12.920 --> 01:13:19.199 much more uh uh four quadrant in its approach. Yeah, 1407 01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:22.359 and and as a result, you know, it's weird right 1408 01:13:22.399 --> 01:13:26.159 because we talked, We talk often about how the the 1409 01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:31.399 compartmentalization of TV has taken away the collective experience, right, 1410 01:13:31.960 --> 01:13:34.039 So now there's there aren't these things that everybody grabthers 1411 01:13:34.039 --> 01:13:35.640 a on the TV to watch together. Everybody goes in 1412 01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:38.079 their own direction. Everybody has their own thing that they 1413 01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:41.199 go into their corners, and that's that's bad, right, But 1414 01:13:41.399 --> 01:13:44.439 also in trying to appeal to everybody, you kind of 1415 01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:47.680 appeal to nobody. Hmmm, right, you know what I mean, 1416 01:13:47.720 --> 01:13:49.880 because I don't I don't know anybody who looks back 1417 01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:54.239 on these shows with like with like, oh, they don't 1418 01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:56.600 make them like this anymore, you know. 1419 01:13:56.680 --> 01:13:59.359 Yeah, yeah, like do you see what they were doing here? 1420 01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:01.800 Yeah, like it was on so they watched. 1421 01:14:02.039 --> 01:14:06.319 Yeah, exactly, exactly right, yep, I think this is what 1422 01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:07.840 I was talking about with Krumholds. By the way, He's 1423 01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:10.199 just so it is great. There's a good performance here. 1424 01:14:15.159 --> 01:14:17.520 So wait, when they were talking about the Incredible Hulk episode, 1425 01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:18.479 was that a real episode? 1426 01:14:18.520 --> 01:14:20.039 Did they actually have the Red Hulk in one of 1427 01:14:20.079 --> 01:14:21.800 them episode? Okay? 1428 01:14:22.239 --> 01:14:25.279 Yeah, you know what's funny is I was like, Brian's 1429 01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:26.199 gonna ask me if that's real? 1430 01:14:26.199 --> 01:14:27.159 EPI Yeah, I did. 1431 01:14:27.279 --> 01:14:30.479 Yeah, you're my You're my you know go to for 1432 01:14:30.520 --> 01:14:30.960 that stuff. 1433 01:14:31.119 --> 01:14:36.479 I got you boo. Jane Lynch, Now this is this 1434 01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:40.399 is while Lee was going on. Was it when was Glee? 1435 01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:41.920 Uh? 1436 01:14:42.439 --> 01:14:45.000 That was somewhere around oh seven or eight, because I 1437 01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:48.119 remember I got to read the script oh of Glee. 1438 01:14:48.159 --> 01:14:49.760 Really yeah, someone gave it to me. He was like, 1439 01:14:49.800 --> 01:14:50.239 this is really good. 1440 01:14:50.279 --> 01:14:52.119 You should read this. And it was before it was made. 1441 01:14:52.600 --> 01:14:55.119 Wow, And you pulled a Paul Rudd. You're like, they 1442 01:14:55.199 --> 01:14:58.079 better not make this show. It's gonna ruin everybody's careers. 1443 01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:01.279 Yeah. No. It came out two thousand and nine, so 1444 01:15:01.279 --> 01:15:02.159 two years after this. 1445 01:15:02.279 --> 01:15:04.840 Okay. But of course Jane Lynch very well known at 1446 01:15:04.840 --> 01:15:09.279 this time for she was part of the Christopher guest 1447 01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:10.560 posse Right, I was gonna. 1448 01:15:10.319 --> 01:15:11.479 Say, yeah, it was a lot of people that I 1449 01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:14.800 had sort of interacted with, like maybe maybe like a 1450 01:15:14.920 --> 01:15:16.039 year before this. 1451 01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:20.520 Seeing them pop up, and this was kind of fun. Yeah. 1452 01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:23.119 This whole bit is very, very funny, where her reporter 1453 01:15:23.520 --> 01:15:26.119 has done not even the barest amount of research. 1454 01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:29.720 Yeah, right, right, right, right, like every single question. 1455 01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:34.680 Yeah, yeah, like yeah, asking about his relationship with his parents, 1456 01:15:34.680 --> 01:15:36.159 like well, my mom is dead and. 1457 01:15:36.600 --> 01:15:40.000 I don't talk to my dad. Yeah, but she. 1458 01:15:39.960 --> 01:15:43.159 You know, it's funny because this is definitely like her lane. 1459 01:15:43.640 --> 01:15:46.439 Oh what she's doing here, the voice, the everything, but 1460 01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:47.680 she's so good at it. 1461 01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:49.920 And she's in the record Ralf movies too. 1462 01:15:50.359 --> 01:15:51.119 Oh that's right. 1463 01:15:51.520 --> 01:15:57.000 Yeah yeah, playing well kind of contradict myself, playing a 1464 01:15:57.119 --> 01:16:01.359 kind of a very different character and very different Yeah. Yeah, 1465 01:16:01.640 --> 01:16:04.039 but I do like this thing that she does here, 1466 01:16:04.079 --> 01:16:07.640 you know, this mode. It's very funny, kind of like 1467 01:16:07.800 --> 01:16:09.199 smooth but sarcastic. 1468 01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:11.439 See. 1469 01:16:11.680 --> 01:16:15.119 To me, Jane Lynch is never better than when she 1470 01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:18.880 says I believe Richard Kimble is innocent, but if he 1471 01:16:18.960 --> 01:16:20.199 came to me, I would help him. 1472 01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:21.279 Yep. 1473 01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:26.079 Doesn't get better than that, I agree, I agree because 1474 01:16:26.119 --> 01:16:29.239 you know what, when she says it, I believe she believes. 1475 01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:32.119 It, and he believes it too. Remember he gives her 1476 01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:33.279 that really warm look. 1477 01:16:33.680 --> 01:16:40.960 That's right. So this is this is playing off in 1478 01:16:41.199 --> 01:16:43.720 in ray where he sees it. I mean, he doesn't 1479 01:16:43.760 --> 01:16:48.720 see his adult brother, but he sees like the ghost 1480 01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:49.279 of his brother. 1481 01:16:49.439 --> 01:16:51.000 You know what's amazing is I was like, has this 1482 01:16:51.039 --> 01:16:53.119 walked the line? Like I don't even remember? Like it's 1483 01:16:54.079 --> 01:16:56.000 because I do remember he has a brother that dies. 1484 01:16:57.399 --> 01:17:00.600 That's where the wrong Kid Died comes from. Is his 1485 01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:02.960 dad actually has played by Robert Patrick, I think and 1486 01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:05.520 walked the line Robert Patrick, Yeah, says I think he 1487 01:17:05.600 --> 01:17:08.560 says like the wrong kid died. And I love that 1488 01:17:08.600 --> 01:17:10.720 they just like keep having the dad repeated over and 1489 01:17:10.760 --> 01:17:11.079 over in this. 1490 01:17:11.399 --> 01:17:13.840 Yeah, it's not generally a thing a parent should say 1491 01:17:13.840 --> 01:17:14.239 to a child. 1492 01:17:14.279 --> 01:17:18.119 I don't know. Nah, I'm no expert. Hell, he's singing 1493 01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:25.640 the wrong kid died. He's really good too. I don't 1494 01:17:25.680 --> 01:17:26.560 know this actor's. 1495 01:17:26.319 --> 01:17:30.479 Name, the actor who plays Dewey's dad. 1496 01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:34.319 Yeah, Raymond J. Berry. Yeah, I've seen him and stuff 1497 01:17:34.680 --> 01:17:40.159 same because then I think of this movie just married 1498 01:17:40.199 --> 01:17:41.960 the ref training Day. 1499 01:17:42.880 --> 01:17:46.159 Wow, that's that might be what I remember him from, 1500 01:17:46.159 --> 01:17:50.119 to be honest, but he's got he's got just an 1501 01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:51.560 armload of credits. My gosh. 1502 01:17:51.640 --> 01:17:53.720 Oh yeah, one hundred and twenty nine credits on IMDb, 1503 01:17:56.960 --> 01:18:02.239 you know, And it's funny. I I love when a comedy, 1504 01:18:02.359 --> 01:18:05.960 especially like a wackier comedy like this, is trying to 1505 01:18:06.000 --> 01:18:10.319 tell an actual story. And this moment where Dewey apologizes 1506 01:18:10.399 --> 01:18:13.600 to his dad and wants to make amends, it like 1507 01:18:13.760 --> 01:18:16.039 kind of like makes me feel the thing that this 1508 01:18:16.119 --> 01:18:18.800 movie would want me to feel in this moment, like 1509 01:18:18.840 --> 01:18:21.119 it actually kind of works. And then of course they 1510 01:18:21.239 --> 01:18:24.279 you know, you realize that the dad has been training 1511 01:18:25.079 --> 01:18:26.840 with a machete all these years. 1512 01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:31.399 To battle him, to battle him. Yeah, there's only one 1513 01:18:31.399 --> 01:18:32.720 way to settle. I'd forgotten about this. 1514 01:18:32.800 --> 01:18:45.640 Actually, he throws some of a machete you've been practicing. 1515 01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:51.199 But I love that him sawing himself in half is 1516 01:18:51.199 --> 01:18:53.279 what makes him realize he's been wrong this whole time. 1517 01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:56.279 Right, it's a lot easier to do than I realized. 1518 01:18:56.439 --> 01:18:58.760 Yeah, it's actually quite beautiful when you think about. 1519 01:18:58.520 --> 01:19:06.560 It, right, I'm like, I'm just waiting for it to happen. 1520 01:19:12.520 --> 01:19:17.840 Oh No, I love that it's exactly the same. It's, 1521 01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:21.680 you know, seeing the exact same way the legs standing 1522 01:19:22.159 --> 01:19:26.279 standing next to the halved body. Clearly the actor like 1523 01:19:26.359 --> 01:19:31.600 standing half in the ground, right, it's the exact same shot. 1524 01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:32.439 It's very good. 1525 01:19:36.439 --> 01:19:38.800 See all this time. You know, do we just wanted 1526 01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:41.119 forgiveness for cutting his brother in half? I think you know? 1527 01:19:41.760 --> 01:19:46.359 Yeah, And then they get their moment. 1528 01:19:47.640 --> 01:19:49.079 And so he's like, I love. 1529 01:19:50.399 --> 01:19:55.680 I love what? Yeah? What one more word? I love this? 1530 01:19:55.840 --> 01:19:57.880 You're a better father, or be a better father than 1531 01:19:57.920 --> 01:19:59.439 I was. Well, shouldn't be that hard? 1532 01:20:03.359 --> 01:20:06.800 Yeah, are you gonna make it? It's the seventies. It 1533 01:20:06.840 --> 01:20:09.000 can attach tops to bottoms to bottoms. 1534 01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:26.199 I love love, you love what? Another sink? 1535 01:20:26.239 --> 01:20:27.199 There goes another sink? 1536 01:20:27.319 --> 01:20:30.239 Yeah, yeah, but do we miss it? 1537 01:20:30.279 --> 01:20:30.319 No? 1538 01:20:30.399 --> 01:20:32.920 This is it demontage right where he's yeah, smashing it. 1539 01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:37.000 And then we get the sawing thing. Oh I love yeah, 1540 01:20:37.000 --> 01:20:41.159 clipping the feather or father flowers. 1541 01:20:45.560 --> 01:20:51.439 His zen garden right there. 1542 01:20:51.640 --> 01:20:54.199 Yeah, I just love it. It's like, you know, what's 1543 01:20:54.239 --> 01:20:55.319 kind of funny saws? 1544 01:20:56.960 --> 01:21:00.920 We need more sawn in this movie. Yeah, this dude, 1545 01:21:00.920 --> 01:21:02.920 the bending the spoons. 1546 01:21:02.319 --> 01:21:05.479 This is funny. And then they do like a little crossfade. 1547 01:21:05.600 --> 01:21:06.479 Yeah, time laps. 1548 01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:13.680 No, he's like tired, but still bending. Each fork must 1549 01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:18.560 be done. This is so funny, and this is so silly. 1550 01:21:18.560 --> 01:21:20.279 You know. It's like the kids that he's not been 1551 01:21:20.319 --> 01:21:22.800 in touch with right now, they're reaching out to him 1552 01:21:22.800 --> 01:21:24.520 and they want to play catch with him. 1553 01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:26.920 And by the way, do you recognize this kid? 1554 01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:28.880 He looks familiar. 1555 01:21:30.359 --> 01:21:32.800 I can't remember his name. You know it. It's the 1556 01:21:32.880 --> 01:21:35.479 kid who Jimmy Olsen in the latest Superman. 1557 01:21:35.600 --> 01:21:37.720 Oh, get out of here, Skyler Gisondo. 1558 01:21:38.279 --> 01:21:40.960 Yeah, there you go, that's him. Huh yeah. 1559 01:21:41.039 --> 01:21:43.159 I was like, there's something about this kid. He looks 1560 01:21:43.359 --> 01:21:45.720 how funny he resembles somebody and I looked it up 1561 01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:46.199 and it's him. 1562 01:21:47.079 --> 01:21:47.279 Yeah. 1563 01:21:47.399 --> 01:21:50.039 Now he's the fokker in law. 1564 01:21:50.880 --> 01:21:55.079 Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot about that. How about that? 1565 01:21:55.159 --> 01:21:57.840 By the way, would you like when that first movie 1566 01:21:57.880 --> 01:21:59.760 came out in two thousand, did you imagine when twenty 1567 01:22:00.279 --> 01:22:02.079 years you'll be watching the fourth one of these? 1568 01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:03.239 You do know? 1569 01:22:04.720 --> 01:22:08.680 And it is the perfect series to do that with generations. 1570 01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:12.239 That's true, and it's it's a it's a conceit that works. 1571 01:22:12.439 --> 01:22:15.560 It's timeless. Yeah, you know, meeting in laws and everything. 1572 01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:17.479 But by the way. 1573 01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:20.359 I love this, but like that the kid isn't catching 1574 01:22:20.399 --> 01:22:22.840 the ball, yeah, because he's never played catch with his 1575 01:22:22.920 --> 01:22:26.920 dad before. It's funny and kind of sad, like it's 1576 01:22:27.239 --> 01:22:28.079 I was thinking, like. 1577 01:22:28.119 --> 01:22:32.359 I love this idea. It's beautiful and funny and heartbreaking, 1578 01:22:33.119 --> 01:22:33.720 it's all of it. 1579 01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:36.000 And then we get a nice little montage with all 1580 01:22:36.079 --> 01:22:36.600 the kids. 1581 01:22:37.479 --> 01:22:40.000 Yeah, and it's like kind of touching for being such 1582 01:22:40.039 --> 01:22:41.159 a ridiculous story. 1583 01:22:42.520 --> 01:22:42.720 You know. 1584 01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:46.039 Well, I think what's interesting is we're at the point 1585 01:22:46.399 --> 01:22:48.800 in the film where you know, it's like you have 1586 01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:52.560 to start wrapping things up right, And you can imagine 1587 01:22:52.760 --> 01:22:57.079 the filmmakers having very serious discussions in the planning stages 1588 01:22:57.119 --> 01:22:59.560 of like how do we want to land this plane? 1589 01:22:59.600 --> 01:23:02.399 Like do we want to go heartfelt or do we 1590 01:23:02.479 --> 01:23:06.680 want to go just gonzo? And they found a way 1591 01:23:06.720 --> 01:23:08.840 to kind of like thread the needle between both. 1592 01:23:09.880 --> 01:23:10.079 You know. 1593 01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:21.880 Yeah, his bus full of children, So this is like 1594 01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:24.800 clearly latter day Johnny Cash that it's shown right. 1595 01:23:25.119 --> 01:23:30.119 I guess I don't remember. That's good dirt. 1596 01:23:31.159 --> 01:23:32.800 That's like such a perfect thing with like him and 1597 01:23:32.920 --> 01:23:34.960 old man makeup, Like what would an old man say 1598 01:23:35.359 --> 01:23:36.880 while he's like showing a kid how to garden. 1599 01:23:36.960 --> 01:23:39.000 He like licks the dirt. He's like, it's good dirt. 1600 01:23:42.119 --> 01:23:45.439 But like, I'm buying this old man performance too, you know, 1601 01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:51.960 like he sells the Yeah, like even though he's done 1602 01:23:51.960 --> 01:23:55.079 a lot of bad things, there's something about seeing someone 1603 01:23:55.159 --> 01:23:58.560 they're older and they've kind of redeemed themselves a little 1604 01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:00.520 bit where you just can't help But like that guy, 1605 01:24:00.560 --> 01:24:05.800 you know, like you feel like a kind of an 1606 01:24:05.800 --> 01:24:07.840 affection for him. 1607 01:24:08.039 --> 01:24:09.720 I was thinking about how, I mean, you can we 1608 01:24:09.760 --> 01:24:14.079 can expand the conversation beyond mere music biopicks to just 1609 01:24:14.319 --> 01:24:18.000 you know, celebrity bios in general, because this is hitting 1610 01:24:18.239 --> 01:24:22.000 those tropes, you know, like, for example, the movie Chaplain 1611 01:24:22.640 --> 01:24:25.920 mm hmm, which you have not I've not seen. Yeah, 1612 01:24:26.119 --> 01:24:31.199 I mean that very much follows this trajectory, although it 1613 01:24:31.279 --> 01:24:33.439 is worth watching. I mean I think there's a lot 1614 01:24:33.479 --> 01:24:36.720 in it you'd enjoy. It's great performance by by Robert Downey. 1615 01:24:38.159 --> 01:24:41.279 Worth. A look, okay, I'm sure i'd like it. 1616 01:24:41.560 --> 01:24:44.960 Like history, well, we said to yourself, right, I mean, 1617 01:24:45.039 --> 01:24:47.159 it doesn't matter how trophy these things are, you know. 1618 01:24:47.239 --> 01:24:50.319 Yeah, Yeah, for sure, I think I think you would 1619 01:24:50.359 --> 01:24:50.680 enjoy it. 1620 01:24:50.760 --> 01:24:57.199 Yeah, Yes, is good older person make up too, Yeah, 1621 01:24:57.359 --> 01:25:01.840 like they look like themselves. I'll just you know, more 1622 01:25:01.920 --> 01:25:04.560 naturally aged. It feels like back in the day, they 1623 01:25:04.600 --> 01:25:08.279 went really hard with actors in their old age makeup, 1624 01:25:08.359 --> 01:25:10.399 and then when those people age, they never looked like 1625 01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:14.319 the extreme versions from those films. I feel like they're 1626 01:25:14.319 --> 01:25:16.039 getting better at that. They get a little more subtle 1627 01:25:16.039 --> 01:25:17.680 because people do age a little more subtly. 1628 01:25:18.039 --> 01:25:18.439 Subtly. 1629 01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:23.920 Yeah, they don't look like different people, you know, they 1630 01:25:23.920 --> 01:25:28.079 look like themselves, just with more creases and wrinkles. 1631 01:25:29.399 --> 01:25:32.520 He gets his smell back. That's like a runner I 1632 01:25:32.560 --> 01:25:33.119 forget about. 1633 01:25:34.920 --> 01:25:45.279 It's like doesn't even make sense. I mean, at this point, 1634 01:25:45.319 --> 01:25:47.000 Dewey is only in his. 1635 01:25:48.439 --> 01:25:51.000 Fifty I think he's fifty. Yeah, this is. 1636 01:25:51.079 --> 01:25:53.760 Ninety two, I think, so he'll be like early fifties. Yeah, 1637 01:25:54.039 --> 01:26:01.640 he's smelling the horseshit smell that shit. 1638 01:26:01.720 --> 01:26:04.039 Baby. Yeah. I love what she screams. 1639 01:26:04.239 --> 01:26:07.239 That's America. Yeah, there's her oscar clip. 1640 01:26:07.319 --> 01:26:12.640 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, so now we're in 1641 01:26:12.680 --> 01:26:19.239 two thousand and seven. Yeah, he's seventy something. See, this 1642 01:26:19.720 --> 01:26:20.680 is the thing, right, Like. 1643 01:26:23.000 --> 01:26:26.319 The format of these movies is that you're sort of 1644 01:26:26.359 --> 01:26:29.560 hopscotching over their life, and I think you know you 1645 01:26:29.640 --> 01:26:32.239 mentioned this the Springsteen movie, which I have not seen, 1646 01:26:32.279 --> 01:26:34.960 but say that attempted to be like, well, let's just 1647 01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:39.680 focus in on one specific era, right, which version, which 1648 01:26:39.800 --> 01:26:41.960 approach do you think is more interesting? 1649 01:26:43.920 --> 01:26:46.840 You know what, if I knew more about Bruce Springsteen, 1650 01:26:47.880 --> 01:26:50.760 maybe I would be happy to dig into a moment 1651 01:26:50.800 --> 01:26:53.199 that I'm familiar with, but like, let's really learn what 1652 01:26:53.239 --> 01:26:56.520 that moment was about. But I'm not, and I actually 1653 01:26:56.560 --> 01:27:02.520 wouldn't mind seeing his origin story, right, you know, I 1654 01:27:02.560 --> 01:27:04.920 don't you How do you feel about that that specifically? 1655 01:27:05.039 --> 01:27:08.439 I mean, which version would you prefer about a Springsteen movie? 1656 01:27:08.479 --> 01:27:10.520 Well, I definitely agree with you about Springsteen. I don't 1657 01:27:10.560 --> 01:27:13.079 know enough about Like I know his music quite well, 1658 01:27:13.159 --> 01:27:16.880 but I don't know him enough. I think for me, 1659 01:27:17.239 --> 01:27:22.479 just more broadly, when you have a film that's hopscotching 1660 01:27:22.520 --> 01:27:25.079 over their life, a lot of stuff gets left out, 1661 01:27:25.119 --> 01:27:28.520 Like there's more left to choice in terms of like 1662 01:27:29.520 --> 01:27:32.239 what you what is important enough to put in and 1663 01:27:32.279 --> 01:27:38.560 what you what you leave out? Right, and that that, 1664 01:27:38.760 --> 01:27:43.760 to me, it is is leaving too much to the 1665 01:27:44.159 --> 01:27:46.199 whims of, oh, we got to fit all of this 1666 01:27:46.359 --> 01:27:48.680 into this certain amount of time, right, So just reflexibly 1667 01:27:48.720 --> 01:27:50.560 I'm like, well, I think it's more interesting to focus 1668 01:27:50.600 --> 01:27:53.000 in on a specific window and you can really go 1669 01:27:53.159 --> 01:27:56.960 deep into that. Yeah, like the movie Ali is not 1670 01:27:57.079 --> 01:28:00.319 about his whole life, for example, and I think that 1671 01:28:00.359 --> 01:28:01.760 movie works pretty well, you know. 1672 01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:06.119 Totally, or like Steve Jobs, which would be a bitch 1673 01:28:06.199 --> 01:28:07.479 three specific moments. 1674 01:28:07.800 --> 01:28:11.119 Yeah, and I, as far as I know, Sorkin cited 1675 01:28:11.159 --> 01:28:13.439 this as like I don't want to do that type 1676 01:28:13.439 --> 01:28:13.880 of thing. 1677 01:28:13.760 --> 01:28:14.600 You know. Interesting. 1678 01:28:14.840 --> 01:28:18.840 Yeah, by the way, I love this concept right where 1679 01:28:19.119 --> 01:28:21.840 he has been out of the game for a while 1680 01:28:21.920 --> 01:28:24.319 and then like a younger agent comes and is like, dude, 1681 01:28:24.319 --> 01:28:26.760 you're like a hit with the kids again because a 1682 01:28:26.880 --> 01:28:32.079 rapper has sampled your song, right, And that reminds me 1683 01:28:32.439 --> 01:28:36.880 of like Kanye when he did gold Digger, which sampled 1684 01:28:36.960 --> 01:28:40.920 Ray Charles's I've Got a Woman you know right, So, 1685 01:28:41.159 --> 01:28:43.399 like I just I thought that was clol is this 1686 01:28:43.479 --> 01:28:46.800 being a story kind of about music through the decades. 1687 01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:48.680 I thought that was a clever way to comment on 1688 01:28:48.960 --> 01:28:51.840 that decade the odds. Yeah, you know what can happen 1689 01:28:51.920 --> 01:28:54.119 with a singer like this where maybe the kids forgot 1690 01:28:54.119 --> 01:28:56.680 about him, but people are sampling him in interesting ways 1691 01:28:56.680 --> 01:28:59.039 and then people are like Oh, my grandpa used to 1692 01:28:59.079 --> 01:29:01.079 listen to him, you know, right. 1693 01:29:04.880 --> 01:29:15.239 He's punched in the mouth, Parnell leaps and hugs him. 1694 01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:19.119 See like, I mean, just this smile. He's just happy 1695 01:29:19.159 --> 01:29:19.800 to have his read. 1696 01:29:20.960 --> 01:29:21.760 Can you blame him? 1697 01:29:21.920 --> 01:29:24.560 He doesn't even open his mouth, but it's just such 1698 01:29:24.600 --> 01:29:25.680 like a sparkling smile. 1699 01:29:25.720 --> 01:29:26.159 I love it. 1700 01:29:28.520 --> 01:29:30.520 See the whole rest of the movie we had, we've 1701 01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:33.359 had actors playing the musicians. But now now that we've 1702 01:29:33.359 --> 01:29:37.079 caught up to the present, here's the real Jewel, the 1703 01:29:37.119 --> 01:29:38.000 real love it. 1704 01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:41.399 Oh, Dackson Brown, Yeah, you're right right right right, like 1705 01:29:41.479 --> 01:29:44.239 not Jack White playing elvis or Yeah. Yeah, And then 1706 01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:45.600 we get Eddie Vedder here in a minute. 1707 01:29:47.159 --> 01:29:48.399 Yeah, that's that's good catch. 1708 01:29:51.920 --> 01:29:52.880 What happened to Jewel? 1709 01:29:54.840 --> 01:29:59.840 Wasn't she on some sort of like American idol type show? 1710 01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:02.039 A minute there? Not long ago? 1711 01:30:02.359 --> 01:30:05.800 That sounds familiar, but that's gonna age me because people 1712 01:30:05.800 --> 01:30:07.479 are gonna be like, yeah, it was eighteen years ago. 1713 01:30:07.760 --> 01:30:18.680 Yeah, Jewel singing show, the sing off? 1714 01:30:19.479 --> 01:30:20.199 What the hell is that? 1715 01:30:22.319 --> 01:30:22.560 Wait? 1716 01:30:22.600 --> 01:30:25.840 She won season six of The Masked Singer. Yeah in 1717 01:30:25.880 --> 01:30:27.399 twenty twenty one. 1718 01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:29.359 Oh, that's relatively recently. 1719 01:30:29.960 --> 01:30:37.079 Sing off American Song Contest it's twenty twenty two. I'm 1720 01:30:37.119 --> 01:30:39.439 not singing a year for the sing off though, but anyway, 1721 01:30:39.840 --> 01:30:40.600 she sung in there. 1722 01:30:42.039 --> 01:30:44.239 Yeah, still doing stuff. 1723 01:30:44.359 --> 01:30:49.319 To Meadows, still with his drugs, boner pills. Yeah, it 1724 01:30:49.399 --> 01:30:54.199 gives you a boner, dude. I mean this is all 1725 01:30:54.279 --> 01:30:57.600 leading like him when the Temptations, that was really fun. 1726 01:30:57.640 --> 01:30:59.359 I gotta stay away from the Temptations and the like 1727 01:30:59.359 --> 01:31:01.439 the VIAGRAA no, no, it's another Temptation. 1728 01:31:01.560 --> 01:31:04.239 It's like just and then I remember it. I was like, oh, 1729 01:31:04.239 --> 01:31:05.000 this is building. 1730 01:31:04.760 --> 01:31:09.359 Toward a hilarious joke, the Temptations. And then you actually 1731 01:31:09.359 --> 01:31:13.479 see the band the Temptations singing in the hallway randomly. 1732 01:31:15.039 --> 01:31:21.399 The Temptations. They're like, what, that's hilarious. I'm glad they 1733 01:31:21.479 --> 01:31:21.720 did that. 1734 01:31:23.640 --> 01:31:25.640 It's such a funny throwaway gag too. 1735 01:31:26.159 --> 01:31:28.039 Yeah. 1736 01:31:28.079 --> 01:31:30.039 I think this is another joke, sort of like the 1737 01:31:30.079 --> 01:31:33.119 Brian Wilson smile thing, where this isn't like laugh out 1738 01:31:33.159 --> 01:31:37.079 loud funny. But this is so funny to me at 1739 01:31:37.079 --> 01:31:40.039 how perfect this is with Eddie Vedder, like he's. 1740 01:31:39.920 --> 01:31:44.479 Labeling each of the archetype the musicians represent. 1741 01:31:44.720 --> 01:31:47.800 Yeah, and just like the type of speech that a 1742 01:31:47.840 --> 01:31:51.119 person would give building up to, like an Icon Award, 1743 01:31:52.079 --> 01:31:55.199 and he's like talking about all, yeah, these rock people 1744 01:31:55.279 --> 01:31:58.359 and what figures of the Bible they represent, you know 1745 01:31:58.359 --> 01:32:01.039 if Iggy Pop is Methuselah, and you know, like it's 1746 01:32:01.079 --> 01:32:04.960 just it's so spot on, but it's not laugh out 1747 01:32:04.960 --> 01:32:05.560 loud funny. 1748 01:32:05.600 --> 01:32:07.640 It's just perfect, you know what I mean. 1749 01:32:07.960 --> 01:32:10.000 Yeah, and Eddie Vetter is perfect too, because he's so 1750 01:32:10.039 --> 01:32:14.319 self serious, right, Like seeing him doing this joke without 1751 01:32:14.359 --> 01:32:16.800 smirking is I don't know, it's very funny. 1752 01:32:19.319 --> 01:32:21.079 Well, that's kind of what we were talking about earlier. 1753 01:32:21.119 --> 01:32:25.479 You have to imagine that the musicians, especially like really 1754 01:32:25.520 --> 01:32:26.399 got this movie. 1755 01:32:26.680 --> 01:32:32.479 Yeah, yeah, you know, kind of like spinal tap. Yeah, 1756 01:32:32.520 --> 01:32:33.000 and right. 1757 01:32:32.960 --> 01:32:35.640 It's such a goofy, goofy movie, but there's something kind 1758 01:32:35.640 --> 01:32:38.079 of sweet and moving seeing him. 1759 01:32:37.880 --> 01:32:40.439 And Shamble on stage and yeah. 1760 01:32:40.279 --> 01:32:43.680 Exactly because we've spent all this time watching him through 1761 01:32:43.720 --> 01:32:44.119 his life. 1762 01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:48.720 That's it's like the weird, I don't know, amazing thing 1763 01:32:48.720 --> 01:32:49.640 I think they pulled off. 1764 01:32:50.840 --> 01:32:54.439 I agree with you. And what a task. 1765 01:32:55.000 --> 01:32:57.039 Like come up with the song that ends the movie 1766 01:32:57.119 --> 01:32:59.760 that's supposed to, you know, be the summation of his 1767 01:32:59.800 --> 01:33:03.119 life and everything that he's learned and have it be 1768 01:33:03.239 --> 01:33:07.479 fun but also actually sincere. And this is actually a 1769 01:33:07.520 --> 01:33:08.720 really beautiful song. 1770 01:33:09.199 --> 01:33:11.560 It is. Yeah, yeah, it's catchy. 1771 01:33:12.119 --> 01:33:16.920 Yeah, and you'd almost forget you're in a comedy except 1772 01:33:16.920 --> 01:33:19.960 for the stuff that they're showing you round the past, 1773 01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:20.279 you know. 1774 01:33:21.640 --> 01:33:25.800 Well, and the cutaways to the audience too. Wait what 1775 01:33:25.800 --> 01:33:26.640 happens in the audience. 1776 01:33:26.920 --> 01:33:30.399 It's just like the various reactions, reactions the monkey in 1777 01:33:30.439 --> 01:33:34.720 the dress, and right right when I. 1778 01:33:34.640 --> 01:33:36.800 Think if you're not watching along, you're like, you know, 1779 01:33:37.199 --> 01:33:39.279 you know it's a comedy. By the cutaways, I'm like, oh, 1780 01:33:39.359 --> 01:33:41.000 what do you mean, Give me an example. You're like, well, 1781 01:33:41.039 --> 01:33:46.800 the monkey in the dress, it's funny, Wig and her husband. 1782 01:33:46.960 --> 01:33:51.479 And and you know, the the Jewish executives. We didn't 1783 01:33:51.520 --> 01:33:52.600 mention Martin Starr. 1784 01:33:52.840 --> 01:33:55.279 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, from Freaks and Geeks and from 1785 01:33:55.319 --> 01:33:57.960 Freaks and Geeks and of course Silicon Valley. 1786 01:33:58.239 --> 01:34:03.319 Yeah uh no. But but the bit coming up where 1787 01:34:03.359 --> 01:34:05.399 crumb Holds has a heart attack, Oh my god. 1788 01:34:05.239 --> 01:34:06.840 It such a funny idea. 1789 01:34:07.680 --> 01:34:09.920 So this bit here with the baby coming out in 1790 01:34:09.920 --> 01:34:14.640 this freaking horrific u this monster of a baby. Yeah yeah, 1791 01:34:14.640 --> 01:34:16.399 a lot of these it feels like it's just a 1792 01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:19.319 deleted scenes, right, That's what I. 1793 01:34:19.319 --> 01:34:22.039 Was wondering, Like alternate versions where like Elvis was even 1794 01:34:22.039 --> 01:34:25.239 more aggressive and pulls out a switch blade and yeah, yeah, 1795 01:34:25.359 --> 01:34:27.159 it's like an opportunity to show all the things they 1796 01:34:27.159 --> 01:34:28.039 could squeeze in. 1797 01:34:28.319 --> 01:34:31.319 That was my thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right here 1798 01:34:31.439 --> 01:34:35.920 how his parents and Nate are force ghosts and then 1799 01:34:35.920 --> 01:34:38.319 we cut to crumb holds and then he's so excited 1800 01:34:38.359 --> 01:34:40.079 to join them as a force ghost. 1801 01:34:41.279 --> 01:34:43.119 Yeah, like he's in the audience watching the show. But 1802 01:34:43.159 --> 01:34:44.720 he has a heart attack and dies. 1803 01:34:45.560 --> 01:34:51.000 Right, so he dies, which is like, that's like funny 1804 01:34:51.039 --> 01:34:53.800 because and then he's looking at me, so he's so excited. 1805 01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:58.840 He's like, hey, he's like look at this. This is great. 1806 01:35:03.800 --> 01:35:09.960 Oh man, real quick. 1807 01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:11.920 Just because I wrote them down, I was curious about 1808 01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:14.399 other movies that had been created for films. 1809 01:35:15.279 --> 01:35:19.000 I mean, there's a what's that other other music that 1810 01:35:19.039 --> 01:35:21.880 had been created for or songs I should say, okay, 1811 01:35:22.079 --> 01:35:22.720 and uh. 1812 01:35:25.079 --> 01:35:27.680 That thing you do of course, and then spinal tap 1813 01:35:27.720 --> 01:35:31.720 of you know you got flower People's don't hinge all that, 1814 01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:34.479 And then Beck wrote the songs for Scott Pilgrim for 1815 01:35:34.520 --> 01:35:37.880 that band sex Babam, which is great because it doesn't 1816 01:35:37.920 --> 01:35:40.600 really sound like Beck. It sounds like a scrappy garage band. 1817 01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:42.399 It's pretty brilliant the. 1818 01:35:43.039 --> 01:35:45.479 Real quick this scene right here, like, what is this 1819 01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:46.960 where Parnell's getting shot? 1820 01:35:48.039 --> 01:35:50.199 Yeah, because you would think it's maybe they were guesting 1821 01:35:50.239 --> 01:35:51.760 on some seventies. 1822 01:35:51.560 --> 01:35:52.600 Cop show or something. 1823 01:35:52.680 --> 01:35:55.279 Yeah, yeah, but you don't have that context, so it 1824 01:35:55.319 --> 01:35:56.359 just looks like that happened. 1825 01:35:56.760 --> 01:35:59.520 Yeah, it's some fun anyway. 1826 01:35:59.560 --> 01:36:02.640 Sorry, are you well? Yeah? Then sinks now the sinks. 1827 01:36:03.279 --> 01:36:04.640 A lot of sks going down. 1828 01:36:04.840 --> 01:36:08.039 No, but I'm a man of constant sorrow. You know, 1829 01:36:08.319 --> 01:36:09.680 soggy bottom boys, Oh brother. 1830 01:36:09.479 --> 01:36:13.920 Where art thou? Fever Dog? Still Water? 1831 01:36:14.600 --> 01:36:17.439 Almost famous, you know, And I've never seen Josie and 1832 01:36:17.479 --> 01:36:19.359 the Pussycats. That came up on a lot of lists, 1833 01:36:19.640 --> 01:36:22.039 and I know a lot of people like that. Yeah, okay, 1834 01:36:22.079 --> 01:36:22.520 I need. 1835 01:36:22.359 --> 01:36:22.800 To watch that. 1836 01:36:23.840 --> 01:36:25.399 I've not seen it either. 1837 01:36:25.640 --> 01:36:26.920 Oh oh, I thought you said you did. 1838 01:36:26.960 --> 01:36:29.359 Okay, you know a lot of people do. It's become 1839 01:36:29.439 --> 01:36:31.319 quite a cult classic. 1840 01:36:31.399 --> 01:36:31.560 Yeah. 1841 01:36:31.600 --> 01:36:33.319 Yeah, yeah, it's by the same folks who made can 1842 01:36:33.359 --> 01:36:33.880 Hardly Wait. 1843 01:36:34.439 --> 01:36:37.640 Oh was it really? Okay, let's check that out. Yeah. 1844 01:36:37.760 --> 01:36:40.600 Well, speaking of you were saying, what's the decision do 1845 01:36:40.640 --> 01:36:42.279 you end on a sincere note or a joke. 1846 01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:44.920 Both do. 1847 01:36:45.079 --> 01:36:51.119 He died three minutes after this perform See, this is 1848 01:36:51.159 --> 01:36:55.079 the thing, right, Like, I watched this shortly before I 1849 01:36:55.159 --> 01:36:58.520 saw Bohemian Rhapsody. 1850 01:36:59.079 --> 01:37:01.640 Oh, or I had rewatched it. 1851 01:37:01.439 --> 01:37:05.760 It was recent enough, you know, and and so like 1852 01:37:05.920 --> 01:37:08.840 I just I couldn't take any of Bohemian Rhapsody. Seriously, 1853 01:37:10.039 --> 01:37:13.680 that's hilarious because it's stuck so close to the template. 1854 01:37:13.880 --> 01:37:21.479 Yep, yep, you know, yep, Well walk hard, Yeah, how 1855 01:37:21.520 --> 01:37:25.199 about it? Yeah, man, that was really fun to revisit. 1856 01:37:25.840 --> 01:37:29.119 Dude. I think that this is one of those one 1857 01:37:29.159 --> 01:37:32.640 of those films that in a way, it's worked in 1858 01:37:32.680 --> 01:37:35.520 its favor as a movie that that it didn't end 1859 01:37:35.560 --> 01:37:39.159 up performing particularly well because because it sort of exists 1860 01:37:39.199 --> 01:37:41.399 as this thing that people are able to discover on 1861 01:37:41.439 --> 01:37:42.760 their own, you know. 1862 01:37:43.560 --> 01:37:46.640 Yeah, you can share it with people, you know, the 1863 01:37:46.680 --> 01:37:48.840 people you know will appreciate it, that's right. 1864 01:37:49.039 --> 01:37:51.960 Yeah, and that's all of you. That's why we wanted. 1865 01:37:51.760 --> 01:37:55.319 To do this, Yeah, I mean seriously, I mean I 1866 01:37:56.079 --> 01:37:59.880 hope that if you have not seen the movie, that 1867 01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:04.720 our enthusiasm is something that maybe compels you to check 1868 01:38:04.720 --> 01:38:06.640 it out, because it absolutely is worth a look. 1869 01:38:07.199 --> 01:38:10.079 Yeah, just and and also not one to watch with 1870 01:38:10.119 --> 01:38:11.840 the family. Throw that out there. 1871 01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:13.720 There's a lot of P and I. 1872 01:38:14.119 --> 01:38:17.560 That are yeah, yeah, just pretty much too. Who's like, oh, 1873 01:38:17.600 --> 01:38:19.159 well they said it was fun, I'll rint it for 1874 01:38:19.199 --> 01:38:19.880 the family today. 1875 01:38:19.920 --> 01:38:24.520 This is not one of those seventies variety shows, So no, 1876 01:38:25.119 --> 01:38:33.279 don't don't uh bring in little Jimmy and Debbie Sue to. 1877 01:38:32.239 --> 01:38:33.319 Jimmy Debbie Sue. 1878 01:38:35.800 --> 01:38:39.760 Uh. Yeah, well this has been a blast, and I 1879 01:38:40.119 --> 01:38:43.720 was glad also that it held up for me, you know, 1880 01:38:43.760 --> 01:38:45.159 I still found it in the same ways. 1881 01:38:45.439 --> 01:38:48.000 That's that's a good point, yeah, because because sometimes I mean, 1882 01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:50.840 we have the we have this conversation where you revisit 1883 01:38:50.880 --> 01:38:54.800 a comedy you laughed uproariously at the nineties thirty years 1884 01:38:54.880 --> 01:38:58.800 later and you're like, Holy mother of God, what kind 1885 01:38:58.800 --> 01:38:59.760 of person was I? 1886 01:39:00.079 --> 01:39:02.239 You know, dude, And there's nothing worse than when you're 1887 01:39:02.239 --> 01:39:03.520 trying to share that with someone. 1888 01:39:03.880 --> 01:39:04.199 Yep. 1889 01:39:04.319 --> 01:39:06.279 I mean, there can certainly be things that haven't aged well, 1890 01:39:06.319 --> 01:39:08.600 but also like maybe it was just I don't know, 1891 01:39:08.640 --> 01:39:11.000 you've changed, Like it seemed funny at the time, but 1892 01:39:11.039 --> 01:39:14.399 it's not that funny now, and it's so painful trying 1893 01:39:14.399 --> 01:39:15.760 to sit through those things where you're like. 1894 01:39:15.960 --> 01:39:17.600 I'm sorry, I don't Yeah, we can. 1895 01:39:17.680 --> 01:39:20.000 We don't have to finish this, like the person is 1896 01:39:20.079 --> 01:39:23.520 now judging you, Yeah, right right, in light of what 1897 01:39:23.560 --> 01:39:26.800 you've suggested they watch. Yeah, yeah, this is not that. Nope, 1898 01:39:27.680 --> 01:39:30.960 but hey, let us know your thoughts if you are 1899 01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:33.159 a fan of the movie, or if you end up 1900 01:39:33.159 --> 01:39:35.319 watching it as a result of our discussion. Either way, 1901 01:39:35.600 --> 01:39:37.760 right right in and let us know. Let us know 1902 01:39:37.800 --> 01:39:42.199 your Dewey cock story. How hard did you walk to 1903 01:39:42.359 --> 01:39:46.960 the to the movie theater? Statistically? Probably not hard at all, 1904 01:39:47.800 --> 01:39:48.520 not hard enough. 1905 01:39:50.720 --> 01:39:51.079 But yeah. 1906 01:39:51.279 --> 01:39:54.159 You can email us your thoughts at moviefilm Podcast at 1907 01:39:54.239 --> 01:39:55.880 gmail dot com. You can also hit like on our 1908 01:39:55.880 --> 01:39:58.960 Facebook page Facebook dot com slash movie Film Podcast and 1909 01:39:59.119 --> 01:40:01.880 message us there. 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Oh I didn't know 1937 01:41:16.760 --> 01:41:18.119 there was a post credits scene here? 1938 01:41:18.239 --> 01:41:21.079 Oh yeah, I love it. It's like the real Dewey cos. 1939 01:41:22.439 --> 01:41:26.920 That's so funny, brilliant. 1940 01:41:27.279 --> 01:41:30.399 It's got like a funny voice that doesn't sound like Riley, 1941 01:41:30.880 --> 01:41:32.000 kind of like Dylan esque. 1942 01:41:32.520 --> 01:41:35.199 Really, I had no idea there was a post credits 1943 01:41:35.239 --> 01:41:38.239 scene that's hilarious. 1944 01:41:38.600 --> 01:41:39.439 It's just clever. 1945 01:41:40.159 --> 01:41:42.039 It's a very funny bit because you see that in 1946 01:41:42.079 --> 01:41:43.720 those types of movies all the time. 1947 01:41:43.880 --> 01:41:44.119 Yeah. 1948 01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:45.039 What