WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:10.519 Joining us today is a respected voice in integrative oncology, 2 00:00:10.919 --> 00:00:15.839 doctor fran Cisco Contreras, and we're going to talk about 3 00:00:15.880 --> 00:00:19.519 Glyphassett and the amazing flip flop that we've seen out 4 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:23.359 of the Trump administration over Glyphysett. Not only have we 5 00:00:23.519 --> 00:00:27.839 had hundreds of thousands of cases over the last few 6 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:32.280 years and many many jury awards billions of dollars. As 7 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:34.240 a matter of fact, I think it's eleven billion dollars 8 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:37.560 in terms of awards. So it's been pretty well established 9 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:40.640 not only by the lawsuits but also by studies the 10 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:44.600 increased risk of this. And now we're seeing that the 11 00:00:45.439 --> 00:00:48.920 Trump administration is going to compel production of this as 12 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:52.719 well as to protect them from lawsuits, because that's all 13 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:55.679 part of the Defense Production Act that if you make 14 00:00:55.759 --> 00:01:00.799 something that the government says is necessary for defense, you 15 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:05.239 also get protected legally from it. So this is truly 16 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:07.879 a wake up call for people, I think. Thank you 17 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:09.040 for joining us, doctor. 18 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:11.920 Contrash, thank you very much for having me. 19 00:01:12.519 --> 00:01:14.519 And tell us your statement about this. What do you 20 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:17.560 know about Glifa said that you've been watching as an oncologist, 21 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:20.439 You've been following this pretty closely. Tell us a little 22 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:21.879 bit about it from your perspective. 23 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:25.480 Yes, you know, there there are some reports that it 24 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:31.920 could be beneficial for for cancer patients, but in our experience, 25 00:01:32.439 --> 00:01:37.120 we have not seen sufficient evidence of help, and that's 26 00:01:37.239 --> 00:01:40.519 one of the reasons that I do not recommend it 27 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:41.920 for our patients. 28 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:43.000 On top of the. 29 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:45.719 Fact that you know, it can have some side effects 30 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:52.680 that are that are not that are not easy on 31 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:58.239 the patients, or or or easily reversible, and so in 32 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:01.640 our experience, we are not using it at all. 33 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:03.560 Well, talk to me about I've never heard of this 34 00:02:03.640 --> 00:02:06.200 being used as a treatment for cancer patients. I've only 35 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:10.479 heard it as a risk of starting cancer. But people 36 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:11.639 are actually using it to know. 37 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:17.560 No, No, there are some reports, as you know with chemotherapy. Yeah, 38 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:25.400 all chemotherapies are our any so there are some reports 39 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:27.879 that it could be used as an anti tumor agent, 40 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:33.439 but again the evidence to us was not sufficient. Now, 41 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:41.080 how how uncogenic it is, I really don't know. But 42 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:45.280 but you know, I do not recommend it and I 43 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:47.840 would avoid it if possible. 44 00:02:48.840 --> 00:02:51.520 Well, when you look at these statistics, there's been anywhere 45 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:53.719 from one hundred and seventy thousand to two hundred thousand 46 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:57.360 lawsuits in just the last ten years, one hundred and 47 00:02:57.400 --> 00:03:00.599 twenty five thousand of those, so it's accelerating. Terms of 48 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:04.639 the lawsuits. They have paid out eleven billion dollars, and 49 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:06.639 so I guess we could say, really, the jury is 50 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:09.199 not out. The jury's delivered its verdict on a lot 51 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:12.199 of these, and of course there's been when we look 52 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:14.520 at the massive amounts of money. That was the first 53 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:16.960 thing that came out. I was surprised at it because 54 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:19.479 they had some kind of a class action lawsuit that 55 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:21.759 set up a deal saying well, we're going to limit 56 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:25.120 your future liability to only seven and a half billion dollars. 57 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:27.360 Now they have paid out already eleven billion dollars. How 58 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:29.439 do they know how many people are going to get 59 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:32.080 cancer in the future. I mean, they've really limited their 60 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:35.560 liability in regards to that. There's still at least sixty 61 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:38.120 to sixty seven thousand cases that are outstanding with this 62 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:39.759 as well. 63 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:43.159 Wow, so that's a you know, that's a big problem. 64 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:47.199 But I would imagine that if somebody started something with 65 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:50.759 many of the communal therapies that we are, you know, 66 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:57.039 currently using, that losses like that could pop up at 67 00:03:57.080 --> 00:04:01.199 any time. And so that's it's going to be complicated 68 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:06.759 because radiation therapy, for instance, that is widely used, is 69 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:08.120 a well known carcinogen. 70 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:11.560 Yes, there's like so many of the things we see 71 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:13.039 in these ask your doctor commercials. 72 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:13.879 You know, you're. 73 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:17.079 Taking something for particular condition, and when they start rattling 74 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:20.240 off all the different adverse possible adverse effects, and usually 75 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:22.040 one of the first things that they rattle off is 76 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:24.800 that may give you what you were taking it for. 77 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:29.000 Right exactly, So that I don't know how they're going 78 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:32.000 to manage that, because I don't think that there's anything 79 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:32.879 out there. 80 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:35.879 That is completely safe. 81 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:40.199 You know, for instance, the new immune therapy is available. 82 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:44.519 They all have you know, the possibility of causing other 83 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:50.160 very major diseases like out immune diseases. But yet when 84 00:04:50.199 --> 00:04:55.000 a cancer patient is in an advanced stage, these products 85 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:58.240 can help the patient survive maybe you know, a year 86 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:02.720 or more without so many side effects as with chemotherapy. 87 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:07.800 And so I don't know how these companies are going 88 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:12.120 to be protected from lawsuits if if they develop other diseases. 89 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:17.680 So all drugs have have you know, risks. 90 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:24.600 As well as benefits, and so man, the disincentive of 91 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:29.319 producing new things is going to be curtailed if if 92 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:33.360 there's always going to be this possibility of being sued 93 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:38.480 about it, I doubt that In America, especially in stage 94 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:41.519 four cancer patients, the. 95 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:43.959 Law is that you can now try things that are not. 96 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:49.519 Completely approved by the FDA, when when these products have 97 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:54.120 some possibility of helping a patient that is in you know, 98 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:57.519 in the in the last that that could be the 99 00:05:57.600 --> 00:05:58.319 last resort. 100 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:02.759 So I am understand that, you know, companies. 101 00:06:02.600 --> 00:06:06.560 Need to be very careful in what they produce, but 102 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:13.000 especially for cancer patients in advance stages, there's always going 103 00:06:13.079 --> 00:06:15.079 to be risks in. 104 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:20.959 Oh, yeah, my father died from his first round of chemotherapy, 105 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:23.240 went into a coma and died from it. So yeah, 106 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:27.160 the chemo stuff can be extremely dangerous. That's not there. 107 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:31.199 And when it comes to the roundup stuff we had 108 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:34.879 our personal story was in the early nineteen eighties, we 109 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:37.160 had a dog that we tried to keep in the backyard, 110 00:06:37.240 --> 00:06:41.160 but it would regularly escape. And we had some neighbors 111 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:44.160 who used a kim laan type of thing, and they 112 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:46.240 had they would come out spray the lawn. They'd put 113 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:49.199 up signs keep pets and children off of the lawn. 114 00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:52.680 It's like oh, okay, Well he got out and he 115 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:55.279 was eating the grass over there, and then shortly after 116 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:58.480 that he got non Hotchkins lymphoma. And that was the 117 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:01.759 first time I made the connection. Was I heard on 118 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:05.199 the radio report about how these agricultural workers were coming 119 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:07.639 down with non Hodgkins lymphoma and they thought it was 120 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:09.879 because of glycost and roundup. 121 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:10.439 It's not that. 122 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:12.480 Oh, maybe that's it. And then we had a friend 123 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:15.360 who came down with it about the same time and 124 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:18.800 died from non Hodgkins lymphoma. So this is something that 125 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:21.759 I've had my eye on since the early nineteen eighties, 126 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:24.560 and it's amazing the number of cases that we've had. 127 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:26.480 Of course, there's been a lot of studies as well, 128 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:27.000 haven't there. 129 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:31.319 Oh yes, there's many says that show that people that 130 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:37.800 work on the lawns of golf courses have a terribly 131 00:07:37.879 --> 00:07:42.639 high incidence of lymphoma and prostate cancer in comparison to 132 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:43.800 the rest of the population. 133 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:47.439 Wow. So that's all of that is very well established. 134 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:51.199 And the other aspect of this, which I think is 135 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:56.639 kind of unique in addition to the cancer issue, is 136 00:07:56.680 --> 00:08:00.519 of course the fact that once you poison your ground 137 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:05.079 with this glycyst weedkiller. You can't grow anything except the 138 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:09.800 Monsanto genetically modified seeds that they sell you. And I 139 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:12.920 remember covering this from the standpoint of farmers in India 140 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:16.000 who were committing suicide because they'd poison their land and 141 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:19.439 they couldn't afford on a regular, on an annual basis 142 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:22.120 to buy the expensive seeds that Monsanta was selling them. 143 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:24.120 And I thought, you know, what is that going to 144 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:26.720 do to our ability to grow food? And yet we 145 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:32.039 have as this decoration was made by Trump, we had 146 00:08:32.279 --> 00:08:36.200 Republicans who were cheering it in Congress because Big Agro 147 00:08:36.639 --> 00:08:39.960 is concerned about food production because that makes them money. 148 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:43.759 They don't really are not that concerned about any adverse 149 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:46.279 effects that might come from that kind of food production. 150 00:08:47.440 --> 00:08:52.639 Oh and there's a lot of research done that GMOs 151 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:58.799 or genetically modified products can be very delicious to our health. 152 00:08:58.960 --> 00:08:59.240 Yeah. 153 00:08:59.480 --> 00:09:04.200 Yeah, it's in the turis to the bugs, and if 154 00:09:04.200 --> 00:09:06.679 the bugs don't get close to it, we shouldn't either. 155 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:09.279 So I. 156 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:13.279 Don't think that that is the answer. Of course, you know, 157 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:18.399 it did the production increases, but I think that diseases 158 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:23.440 are also going to exponentially increase due to the manipulation 159 00:09:23.519 --> 00:09:25.200 of the DNA of the of our food. 160 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:27.399 Yeah. Absolutely, yeah. 161 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:31.600 And in the the email we're talking back and forth, 162 00:09:32.240 --> 00:09:34.840 you had a picture, it's kind of a picture that 163 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:38.840 somebody had of RFK Junior drinking the Gli, which hearkens 164 00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:42.480 back to one of their marketing guys saying it's so safe, 165 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:44.159 I could drink it. They said, okay, let's see you 166 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:45.919 drink it, and he said, well, never mind, I don't 167 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:50.120 think I'll do that. But I guess it brings a 168 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:52.480 kind of drinking the kool aid, isn't it. 169 00:09:53.000 --> 00:09:54.360 We've got that happening with. 170 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:58.480 A study published some years ago, you know, the Ascent colleges. 171 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:03.759 Would you give chemotherapy to a with stage four I 172 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:06.679 think it was a lung cancer And they said, of course. 173 00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:08.519 And then they asked me, if you had lung cancer, 174 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:10.000 would you take chemotherapy? 175 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:12.039 And they most of them said no. Wow. 176 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:15.320 Yeah, so you know that's not loving your patient as 177 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:16.720 you love yourself. 178 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:20.440 That's right, that's right. Yeah, first do no harm doesn't 179 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:21.360 apply there, does it? 180 00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:22.080 Right? 181 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:24.960 It is as very dangerous as many of these things are. 182 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:28.360 And I think I've said for the longest time, especially 183 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:30.360 because the cancer of my family, I said, I think 184 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:32.960 in the future, people are going to look back on 185 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:35.679 chemotherapy and many of these cancer treatments in the same 186 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:39.399 way that we look back on leeches, you know, being 187 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:44.000 used in the past and you know things right, Yeah. 188 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:48.919 The last chemotherapy developed was probably fifteen years ago. Chemotherapy 189 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:51.000 is going to be a thing of the past in 190 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:52.919 probably ten fifteen years. 191 00:10:53.679 --> 00:10:56.240 So what do you use, what do you what are 192 00:10:56.279 --> 00:10:58.919 you leaning towards in terms of your treatment? There at 193 00:10:58.960 --> 00:10:59.879 hope possible. 194 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:03.639 Mentioned My experience is in integrative medicine. 195 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:07.720 So what we have is we have all of the 196 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:12.000 therapies available from the alternative and the conventional. Because there 197 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:16.279 are some tumors that respond extremely well to conventional chemo, 198 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:19.279 for instance, lymphomas, the cre rate is you know, in 199 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:24.120 the ninety percentile, So of course in those tumors we 200 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:29.360 still recommend this therapies. But for most cancers, chemotherapy is 201 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:32.639 a very little use to the patient, so they're the 202 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:37.440 alternatives can be very effective, and so our main therapies 203 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:40.559 are on the metabolic side, like how dose vitamins ce 204 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:46.639 converts itself like chemotherapy kills the cells with the same 205 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:49.960 mode of action as chemo without any of the side effects, 206 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:57.279 and our strongest therapies are immunologic. So we have our 207 00:11:57.440 --> 00:12:03.200 IMPACT protocol which stands for Immune Personalized of Tooleogus cell Therapy, 208 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:06.559 and it's based on dendritic cells. And I don't know 209 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:09.320 if you've heard the term of dendritic cell vaccine that 210 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:15.559 was developed in America early this century and it's still 211 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:19.759 in clinical trials in America, whereas in Mexico has already approved. 212 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:24.600 And so we work for the patients rather than against 213 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:28.879 the tumor. So we create within the immune system of 214 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:34.879 the patient an anti tumor task force with natural killer cells, 215 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:38.840 and this has been very, very effective and it has. 216 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:40.159 Zero side effects. 217 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:45.320 So there are many things that can help cancer patients. 218 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:50.120 Diet alone can make a tremendous difference in how a 219 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:54.440 patient responds to therapy, and so we have all of 220 00:12:54.480 --> 00:13:01.039 these natural options available to our patients in conjunction with 221 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:04.759 conventional therapy, because there are some patients that are definitely 222 00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:10.039 going to be benefited by surgery or radiation. But our 223 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:16.240 main therapies are immunologic in nature, and so we produce 224 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:22.039 them from the patient's own cells, immunological cells like natural 225 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:27.480 killer cells and dritic cells. Lymphokind activated cells, and I 226 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:32.080 think this is the future. Now, there are some conventional 227 00:13:32.519 --> 00:13:36.679 immunotherapies as well, like ki Truda is one of the 228 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:41.159 most used now that can be combined with the natural 229 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:47.120 anti tumor agents and natural immunity that we give our 230 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:50.840 patients with very very good results. So we have the 231 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:56.440 possibility of integrating conventional therapies with natural therapies. And there 232 00:13:56.480 --> 00:13:59.759 are patients that we're conventional therapies have very little to 233 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:04.519 our where we only offer now natural therapies with very 234 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:05.480 good results. 235 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:06.639 Yeah. 236 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:09.240 I spoke recently to Rick Hill and that was one 237 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:12.159 things he was talking about in terms of, you know, 238 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:14.840 this is a cooperative thing and you're going to change 239 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:18.000 your diet and some other things like that. It wasn't 240 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:20.000 just something that they were going to do to treat 241 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:23.559 the cancer. But as you point out, I guess is 242 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:27.080 that what's meant by integrative oncology that you're trying to 243 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:29.919 build up the body to fight the cancer. 244 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:35.279 Integrative means that we can integrate both sides of the aisle, 245 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:37.360 let's say, conventional and. 246 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:44.799 Unconventional. The immune therapies. 247 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:49.320 Are the ones that where we stimulate the areas of 248 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:55.000 the immune system designed to attack cancer, because we develop 249 00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:57.960 cancer because these areas of the immune system failed. 250 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:00.720 Otherwise we wouldn't do other cancer. 251 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:04.600 I'm sure that you've heard of people that are ninety 252 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:09.039 years old. They smoke all their life, and they you know, 253 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:13.919 mashed potatoes and meat, and they never developed cancers because 254 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:15.080 their immune system. 255 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:15.440 Is up to par. 256 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:20.679 And so we only develop cancer when our immune system fails. 257 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:24.720 And so this is what we're trying to repair with 258 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:29.279 our immune therapies, so that the patients can counteract that 259 00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:31.639 cancer and heal themselves. 260 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:35.919 I remember at the beginning of all this vaccine stuff 261 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:39.000 that doctor Ryan Cole, who's a pathologist, said that the 262 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:41.120 people that he was saying that had been vaccinated had 263 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:44.679 a tremendous deficit of killer tea cells. And he said, 264 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:48.159 we're going to see an explosion of cancer, of turbo 265 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:49.960 cancer and that type of thing because of that. And 266 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:52.200 that's exactly what he was talking about. Your body is 267 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:56.639 natural defenses. Have you seen a large surge in terms 268 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:59.639 of reported cancer patients where you treat people? 269 00:16:01.080 --> 00:16:06.000 Yes, Unfortunately, we know we cancer was a disease of 270 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:10.039 the elderly, let's say sixty and over and right now, 271 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:14.080 my patients more than half or forty years or less. 272 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:17.879 Oh wow, and with very aggressive cancers. 273 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:21.879 And when COVID hit, we had a number of patients 274 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:25.159 that were, you know, in complete remission and they got 275 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:30.279 vaccinated and their cancers reactivated. And I agree, it's you 276 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:33.879 to the fact that the immune system is affected tremendously 277 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:38.279 with these it's not really a vaccine. These drugs that 278 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:41.919 were developed to fight this viruses. 279 00:16:43.360 --> 00:16:46.639 Now you're talking about the new approach, she said, relatively 280 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:50.159 new approach. Is this something came down with RFK Junior 281 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:54.000 that they would relax some of the restrictions. Let's say 282 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:58.360 people had a terminal disease, relax some of the restrictions 283 00:16:58.440 --> 00:17:02.200 on people trying drug experimentally. I know that in Japan 284 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:07.319 a person that I know who is covering stem cell research, 285 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:10.680 he said, in Japan, as long as you can demonstrate 286 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:14.319 to them that your treatment is not harmful, they'll let 287 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:16.640 you go ahead and do it, and then they'll use 288 00:17:16.680 --> 00:17:19.680 the data that you get from your treatment routined to 289 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:21.960 see if it is effective. So as long as you 290 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:24.799 can show that it's safe, you can it opens up 291 00:17:24.839 --> 00:17:26.680 the door for you to do treatments to see if 292 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:30.319 it's effective. Is that where we are now with changes. 293 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:36.759 Well, during Trump's first term, there was a big fuzz 294 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:40.759 about it, and so he opened up that possibility. I 295 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:43.599 don't know the excitement in Mexico. I don't know if 296 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:47.799 that continues to be the policy, that if a patient 297 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:51.759 is in stage four and the treatment has not helped 298 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:56.319 that patient, that treatments that are in the process of 299 00:17:56.359 --> 00:18:00.720 being approved or disapproved by the FDA would be tried 300 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:04.440 on those patients, as you say, when they were proven 301 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:07.720 to be safe, because safety is very difficult to. 302 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:13.519 Prove and take sometimes years, where efficacy is very easy 303 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:16.079 to prove. You know, the tumor is larger and not smaller. 304 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:20.759 So in patients where some therapies were proven to be 305 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:25.200 effective but the safety issue is not yet proven, but 306 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:28.759 the patient is at stage four and has no other options, 307 00:18:29.160 --> 00:18:34.200 those therapies could be used on cancer patients. But that 308 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:37.160 wasn't his first term, and I don't know if it 309 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:40.359 continues to be true or not, but that you would 310 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:43.680 offer a tremendous amount of hope to many, many patients 311 00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:46.839 that have really nothing that they could use. 312 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:49.559 Now, one of the things that you mentioned earlier was 313 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:52.319 vitamin C. Did you say it was lyposomic vitamin C 314 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:54.640 or you had a qualifier there for vitamin C. 315 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:59.359 Yes, well, the vitamin C in terribly high dosages, so 316 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:02.359 we know that that you know, vitamin C is a 317 00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:07.839 very potent antioxidant, but in very high dosages like fifty 318 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:12.000 grams or to one hundred grams, it converts into an 319 00:19:12.039 --> 00:19:16.519 occident and it kills malignant cells with the same mode 320 00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:21.519 of action as radiation therapy, but without any of the 321 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:25.839 side effects. And this was discovered at the NIH and 322 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:29.519 the and the NCI in the late nineties and there 323 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:33.119 were you know, many published studies. It never got into 324 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:38.400 clinical trials because they're the disincentive is that you could 325 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:39.839 never get a patent for it. 326 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:41.960 Yeah, because it's natural. 327 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:44.119 And you still have to spend you know, the billion 328 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:48.440 dollars to prove to the FDA that it's safe and effective. 329 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:52.440 And so it stayed at the level of you know, 330 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:56.480 of the laboratory. But we've been using vitamin C in 331 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:01.240 very high dosages sixty grams a day for the last 332 00:20:01.279 --> 00:20:02.640 ten years with. 333 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:03.799 Very good results. 334 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:07.400 For instance, our five year survival and stage four breast 335 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:12.400 cancer is five times higher than with conventional therapy. 336 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:14.039 Wow. Wow. 337 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:18.039 So impatients that arrived to us that with stage four 338 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:21.759 breast cancer that didn't receive chemotherapy and are treated with 339 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:26.000 high dose vitamin C, our five year survival rate is 340 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:31.000 seventy five percent, whereas in America is sixteen percent Wow, 341 00:20:31.519 --> 00:20:36.240 conventional therapy. So there we've been able to prove that 342 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:42.640 vitamin C has a tremendous potential to help cancer patients. 343 00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:43.160 Wow. 344 00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:46.960 Yeah, there's so much that's there that if people would 345 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:51.240 avail themselves of getting out of the box that they 346 00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:53.920 put us in. We had a very dear friend of 347 00:20:53.960 --> 00:20:57.759 ours who died of breast cancer, and she was a nurse, 348 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:02.599 and she was really of closed off to investigating anything 349 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:03.920 that was alternative to that. 350 00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:05.240 I talked. 351 00:21:05.319 --> 00:21:07.359 As I said to Raquil, one of things he was 352 00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:12.880 talking about was vitamin B seventeen. And they're saying a 353 00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:15.880 lot of times people looking at cancer as really kind 354 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:19.440 of a nutritional deficiency in a way, in a sense 355 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:22.680 like scurvy. You know, when the deficiency of vitamin C, 356 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:24.640 do you use B seventeen? 357 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:29.799 Yes, we've been using B seventeen for sixty years. 358 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:30.200 Wow. 359 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:32.599 Here at the Oasis of Hope, We've we've been in 360 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:38.599 My father founded our institution, the Oasis of Hope in 361 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:42.720 nineteen sixty three, and it was the first alternative that 362 00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:47.799 he used. And so it's a mild, natural anti tumor 363 00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:51.880 agent that is very effective in several types of cancers, 364 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:56.920 and so we use it widely because it's completely non toxic. Now, 365 00:21:57.839 --> 00:22:02.279 the B seventeen vitamins isnomer. It is not a vitamin. 366 00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:07.759 That the discoverers two Americans, you know, father and son, 367 00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:14.519 doctor Krebs, which interestingly enough, it Crebs means cancer in German. 368 00:22:15.319 --> 00:22:20.079 So they discovered that there was a tribe in the Himalayas, 369 00:22:20.119 --> 00:22:24.200 the Hunter, that have the lowest incidents of cancer in 370 00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:28.119 the world, and they consume tremendous amount of B seventeen 371 00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:34.839 from Aprica pits, and so they believed in the fifties 372 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:38.880 that it was a vitamin, and so the name stuck 373 00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:43.240 and it's widely known as vitamin B seventeen. But amigdoland 374 00:22:43.400 --> 00:22:46.839 is not a vitamin, but it is a natural anti 375 00:22:46.920 --> 00:22:50.359 tumor agent that has virtually no side effects. 376 00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:54.559 And I guess you know, because it is a food 377 00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:59.680 that it is not under the kind of scrutiny that 378 00:22:59.720 --> 00:23:03.000 some of the other things out there that are used 379 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:06.160 alternatively to treat cancer. It's not an that kind of scrutiny. 380 00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:08.960 I know there's been a lot of harassment of doctors 381 00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:11.119 who have used it, and of course I've talked to 382 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:16.039 Richardson at the RNC store about that. I've interviewed him 383 00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:18.200 a couple of times. And we know the stories from 384 00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:22.519 GEdward Griffin and his book A World Without Cancer, So 385 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:24.799 we know that they frown upon it and they harass 386 00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:27.640 people significantly about it. But it is really a food. 387 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:30.119 How do you shut down a natural food? They don't 388 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:33.200 really and should not have the authority to be able 389 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:33.640 to do that. 390 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:39.160 No, And you know it's again the disincentive. It's that 391 00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:42.200 you cannot get a patent. For instance, my father in 392 00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:46.559 the seventies, god Be seventeen approved in Mexico for the 393 00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:50.799 use of in cancer patients, and he's spent that time 394 00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:55.920 in the seventies, I think, three hundred and eighty thousand dollars, 395 00:23:56.480 --> 00:23:59.960 and virtually the day that it was approved because it's natural, 396 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:03.079 seven other laboratories started producing it. 397 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:05.039 He never made his money back. 398 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:08.880 And now we started buying from the other companies because 399 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:12.680 they had much better equipment than we did, you're getting 400 00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:16.559 a better product. And so that's what's happened. And so 401 00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:19.960