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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, good afternoon, everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to you Eye on the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 3>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera in with me the days.

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<v Speaker 3>Look who we have here? Andy Brown? Downtown?

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<v Speaker 2>What's up? Steve? Got me man? Got away from whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you were doing? Uh sweating because everybody else is right now? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>well I hadn't even gotten to be hot yet. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is covered parking out here, that's not reserved out here.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. I'm wanna get back on the farm. I

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<v Speaker 2>can check that. I can check that because you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the reserve spot. But I didn't see it, don't.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't even know who I am?

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<v Speaker 4>Really?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we know you take that parking states right there.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw you like to punch in your coat like

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<v Speaker 2>three times in there and they change Did they change

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<v Speaker 2>it on me? You might have got ray here to celebrate.

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<v Speaker 2>Not much. You would need baby for the summer, because

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else is gone here we are you would need

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<v Speaker 2>because I'll be doing the board, which you're not doing.

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<v Speaker 2>The board. Yep, rare university guy. You're on loan from

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<v Speaker 2>the university. Like all his guys, he gets yeah, nice, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're nice. He's a kid, do that though. He's been

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<v Speaker 2>through the war. You know, you know all the buttons. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I do know the buttons. Nice. He's not like a

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<v Speaker 2>he's not like a fresh face. Don't stay near that.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay away from that ejection button right there, raise my

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<v Speaker 2>guy a cough button ready to go though, Yeah, gotcha, No,

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<v Speaker 2>we got right here. We've been knowing to drop some bombs,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes we have. It's been before andy. What's the word? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you? Are you busy?

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<v Speaker 5>The summer?

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<v Speaker 2>We just finished season eighteen. Security just finished uh twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven graduations at the Universe. Oh oh, because all over

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<v Speaker 2>you to do that? Yeah, so that's we're done. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean QSD was our last big weekend of graduations and

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<v Speaker 2>now we regrew group, re hire, retrain, and get ready

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<v Speaker 2>for the fall season. No concerts coming up, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>few out there. The big one that got postponed was

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin hard Right, so a couple of weeks ago. That's

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<v Speaker 2>all right, should come back. But yes, I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>scheduled for October something it's like it's going to be hot.

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't going I'm gonna I'm gonna come back in October. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's hot out there, it does.

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<v Speaker 3>Last year was probably the hottest I's ever been here.

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<v Speaker 3>If I can remember usually that I'm getting too old

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<v Speaker 3>for this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>That might be right. I'm starting to get warm anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>wrinkling up and yeah, you know, no, there's not a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot of big stuff going on right now. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a slow season for Tucson. You know how it goes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, even with you a, it's gonna be a struggle

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<v Speaker 3>for me getting guys who got you luckily this morning? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>try to get some guests. But we have a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>good one here in the first hour. Jenny Dalton Dalton Hill,

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<v Speaker 3>she's in the ESPN Softball person. She's not doing the

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<v Speaker 3>games now, but she's gonna be. She's a coach now

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<v Speaker 3>in in the New Women and So Softball. Yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 3>in Chicago, gonna be a coach out there. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 3>to her about that. Talked to her about have you

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<v Speaker 3>been watching softball? I have, okay, so I and I

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<v Speaker 3>love the game. It's last night. Yeah, did you watch well,

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<v Speaker 3>did you watch the previous weekend when she didn't touch

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<v Speaker 3>the plate. And then they said, we know she didn't

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<v Speaker 3>touch the plate, but she's safe. Oh my goodness, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even know the rule on that one. I was

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<v Speaker 3>I was in communication with said, is this the jit

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<v Speaker 3>that tag out?

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<v Speaker 2>She was gone for by a mile, right, but she's safe.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, when did this happen? The obstruction by the umpire,

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<v Speaker 2>But then there was an obstruction by the batter, and

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't doesn't matter. I think the girl went back

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<v Speaker 2>to first anyways, Yeah, they call her out. They could

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<v Speaker 2>they could have called the batter was already out. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just crazy crazy And then and the steal

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<v Speaker 3>or the attemptancy. It was she was in the way.

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<v Speaker 3>How was she in the way? Her foot was in

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<v Speaker 3>the way. That what I said, foot was in the

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<v Speaker 3>Did you play baseball? Did you play ball?

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<v Speaker 2>No? And you you could? You could do whatever you

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<v Speaker 2>get song as they don't reach the base, you're done,

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<v Speaker 2>get it away.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember when they used to have fights, when the case

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<v Speaker 3>came in hard and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I loved watching the Pete Rose that those are

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<v Speaker 2>the days that you could just run people over, spike

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<v Speaker 2>people slide in the second, legs up. You're not bleeding, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't slide hard, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not that that happened last night, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>it was like it wasn't excited they got him out,

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<v Speaker 3>No they didn't. I'm thinking, what are they arguing? She

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<v Speaker 3>was out pat.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they scored the run and you're thinking that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to create a problem. But then they came back

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<v Speaker 2>and then they came back to.

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<v Speaker 3>Another What the hell is she doing? What the hell

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<v Speaker 3>is she doing throwing strikes for a pontential? You see

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<v Speaker 3>like she just swinging. She just hit that ball. No,

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<v Speaker 3>but did you see the other pictures? The other pictures

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<v Speaker 3>could have been. I think finally she just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>looked that I wanted to swing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hell with this? What I saw it on today?

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<v Speaker 2>This that hasn't happened in a game, and they replayed

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<v Speaker 2>it like I don't know, thirty years ago. Oh it

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<v Speaker 2>happens in baseball, Oh where somebody actually reached out and

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<v Speaker 2>hit the ball. I think it was the White White

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<v Speaker 2>Sox game. I think, Oh, I just saw this morning

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<v Speaker 2>getting ready they were doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, to me, it's been it's been great, great stuff

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<v Speaker 3>watching it baseball too.

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<v Speaker 2>Baseball starts tomorrow. You the Batcats, those were those dudes

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<v Speaker 2>just started hitting dingers left and right. Yeah, and they're pitching. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's coming through. They're they're confident. They get up there

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<v Speaker 2>and you can tell that cow Poly team did not

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<v Speaker 2>want to be there. No, they had already gotten to that.

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<v Speaker 2>First picture was just like, can I sit down now?

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<v Speaker 2>The guy don't want to be here. You can see

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<v Speaker 2>in his face. I don't want to be here. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember?

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<v Speaker 3>And yesterday we had Lopez on coach Lopez and we

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<v Speaker 3>had uh Wes clements before. Steve Strong the day before

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<v Speaker 3>talked about the Andy didn't talk about this, but the

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<v Speaker 3>other guys how they kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of got through the catching a break. You know, everyone

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<v Speaker 2>catches a break. Yes, when you were there two years

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<v Speaker 2>at you yes, ninety three, four five, I graduated ninety five. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so you were on the team, right, No, I took stats.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh they moved you, yeah that one day your GPA. No,

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<v Speaker 2>they did. They brought in a guy named Ben Davis.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah he was gladly gave him my spot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>loot loot love Ben. That's a good, great, great guy man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I talked chat we chat on Facebook. So yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>he still thinks he's the best reboundary. Oh yes, and

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<v Speaker 2>he still looks like he can play though.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I say, hey, let's get Pete over here real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, he still looks like he could play. Oh Pete, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think he just had he did, remember two years ago? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he still he's a grandpa. He's a two time guys.

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<v Speaker 2>He's having great time being a grandpa.

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<v Speaker 6>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sold my business called him just to get him

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone. Jesse Barky was out there. He's the

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<v Speaker 2>grandpa again. He's your guys. He's my business partner. He's

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<v Speaker 2>doing great, enjoying taking his granddaughter to him from preschool.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to you, Jesse, doing a great job. Did

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<v Speaker 2>you hear me questions for us? You have any questions?

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<v Speaker 2>He asked him this? Why the hell are they doing this?

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<v Speaker 2>He usually gives me a whole list of stuff to ask.

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<v Speaker 2>You tell him to tell the truth too. Well, we did. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>we did go about a month and a half before

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<v Speaker 2>we pulled the trigger on renewing our football tickets. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>who's the we? Me and Jesse? Oh okay, so you

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<v Speaker 2>have a team, does okay? So we buy basketball and

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<v Speaker 2>football tickets. After last Jesse was like, I'm done, Come on, man,

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<v Speaker 2>give him one more year, bro, one more year? Who

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<v Speaker 2>we did? On more year? We re upped. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>You know the funny funny thing about that is I

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<v Speaker 3>think a lot of people feel the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean they got to sell tickets, you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>They have to have believers like you guys, because if

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<v Speaker 2>they don't, I don't know what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Because they need money. They need yeah, and they needed

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<v Speaker 3>it's a it's a catch twenty two. They need to

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<v Speaker 3>give you a good team, yes, and you need to

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<v Speaker 3>spend money to see the good team.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. So how many years can you go without product? Right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So you got to have a good product, consistent I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't even say you just got to be consistent, right,

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<v Speaker 2>consistently good. You can't not be consistently good. I mean right,

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<v Speaker 2>people want to see uh, I mean people want to

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<v Speaker 2>know you have a chance, right right, See, your team

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<v Speaker 2>has a chance going into any game. That's all you need. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here was the problem last year, and you may

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<v Speaker 3>you and I may have talked about this before the

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<v Speaker 3>season started. What do you think you have you have

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<v Speaker 3>a chance. Yeah, you have a fighting chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of the people that came back, right right, And

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<v Speaker 2>then you think, I mean the second game, I went

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<v Speaker 2>as a spectator, not as a as a sports writer,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was leaving the New Mexico game and people

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<v Speaker 2>were saying, we're screwed, and they weren't saying screwed, they

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<v Speaker 2>were saying something else, and I'm thinking you got to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of give them a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>But there were not just one people one person. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>it was a bunch of people say oh, we're screwed you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, they struggled. Yeah, and you're thinking, how they struggling.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to put up numbers against that team. That's

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<v Speaker 3>your stat game right there, right, you look at no.

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<v Speaker 7>And there was a season two where it was like,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, Texas leaving, Oklahoma left like well.

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<v Speaker 2>And we were sitting up there with the guys that

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<v Speaker 2>got back and the preseason hoop lot. So, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>how many tickets you have just in case I need

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<v Speaker 2>to when start? We got to Oh that's all you

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<v Speaker 2>got two football tickets?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, I thought you got maybe for the people, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got people working.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's working. If you're not working, you're sick. You called out,

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<v Speaker 2>So we got everybody working those games. That makes sense. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you can get you about fifty people. People more than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh at football game. You need to tell me, probably confidential.

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<v Speaker 2>It's north of the way. North of that. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot. But that's you know, there's more stuff

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<v Speaker 2>starting to slow down. Sports fly stuff, man. As soon

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<v Speaker 2>as that's what we're talking about this, I know, as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as NBA is over. Yeah, I mean you're a

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, come on, are you gonna watch I think

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna watch tonight's game probably, yeah, absolutely, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>watch the softball game, the softball Trump's NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I have this fancy TV. Now you can watch

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<v Speaker 2>both of the picture picture. I was always wondering about

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<v Speaker 2>I just gotta run new TV that doesn't do that. No,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta get the YouTube TV subscription. Okay. No, So

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<v Speaker 2>I went to overtime.

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<v Speaker 3>about the softball game. So you're not watching the soccer,

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<v Speaker 2>And soccer? Yeah yeah, but I heard, oh it's overtime.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched the friendly the other night the US women

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of soccer matches.

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<v Speaker 7>it wasn't like on score, it wasn't a good one,

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<v Speaker 2>Do you see I was watching the I was watching

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<v Speaker 2>the French Open, right, the tennis thing whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 2>and so the umpire in the chair had to go,

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<v Speaker 2>PARTI quiet, please, quiet please. Everybody's like watching the game

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<v Speaker 13>This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 13>Want to take part in the show Call up Steve

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<v Speaker 2>Are you doing Jenny?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm good. How are you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing well. You all are very popular.

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<v Speaker 3>You did a great job on your ESPN outing when

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<v Speaker 5>A goal, right, Well, espan is something I do all

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<v Speaker 14>It starts with that Clearwater tournament back in February where

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<v Speaker 14>until Super Regionals and uh yeah, I finished off with

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<v Speaker 3>you did you have a chance to watch it at all?

419
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<v Speaker 5>I mean, come on, do you even have to ask

420
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<v Speaker 5>that question?

421
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<v Speaker 2>Of course, to verify the facts.

422
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<v Speaker 3>So here we are so nobody who isn't And in fact,

423
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<v Speaker 3>before you came in, I was telling Andy tonight's NBA

424
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<v Speaker 3>and softball at the same time.

425
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<v Speaker 2>I'm watching softball. I've been watching softball for the last

426
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<v Speaker 2>two weeks.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, yes, because tonight is can be the deciding factor

428
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<v Speaker 14>in it, right with Texas winning Game one. If they

429
00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:36.559
<v Speaker 14>win tonight, it's all over. So Texas tech up against

430
00:20:36.599 --> 00:20:38.920
<v Speaker 14>the Ropes, has to win tonight to be able to extend.

431
00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:42.359
<v Speaker 14>But yeah, the thunder obviously putting a little kick in

432
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<v Speaker 14>the works playing too.

433
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, the game last night. Well, I was texting

434
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<v Speaker 3>can Dre throughout the game last night. I think I

435
00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:53.000
<v Speaker 3>can't remember seeing so many crazy stuff going on in

436
00:20:53.079 --> 00:20:55.279
<v Speaker 3>the last two three weeks. I mean, you've seen it

437
00:20:55.279 --> 00:20:57.160
<v Speaker 3>because you've seen a number of games, but maybe not

438
00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:00.319
<v Speaker 3>to this extent last week. Usually doesn't step on a plate.

439
00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:03.720
<v Speaker 3>It still doesn't matter. They score the run, all the

440
00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:07.200
<v Speaker 3>home runs, all the craziness, you lived it, You lived it.

441
00:21:07.319 --> 00:21:09.039
<v Speaker 2>But have you seen all these crazy things?

442
00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:12.440
<v Speaker 5>Well, and I think that's the key word. I think

443
00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:13.880
<v Speaker 5>that stuff always happens.

444
00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:17.759
<v Speaker 14>It's just now with the visibility of TV, now everybody

445
00:21:17.839 --> 00:21:19.839
<v Speaker 14>sees it, where before it maybe just kind of fell

446
00:21:19.880 --> 00:21:22.559
<v Speaker 14>through the cracks and nobody was paying attention. Now you

447
00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:23.640
<v Speaker 14>can't hide that step.

448
00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:26.279
<v Speaker 5>You're exposed because everybody's watching.

449
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the obstruction one was bonkers to me.

450
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<v Speaker 14>Oh yeah, that can take a long discussion, but let

451
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<v Speaker 14>me make it short and sweet.

452
00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:36.880
<v Speaker 5>It was not obstruction.

453
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<v Speaker 14>I think they missed that call and it absolutely changed

454
00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:41.680
<v Speaker 14>the trajectory of what could have.

455
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<v Speaker 2>Been the end of that game, no question, no question.

456
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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, since when did that become a rule?

457
00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:49.720
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, he texted me, Kendre had said to me, Yeah,

458
00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:51.680
<v Speaker 3>they need to look at look at the up again.

459
00:21:51.759 --> 00:21:52.519
<v Speaker 2>That needs to change.

460
00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:56.759
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, that rule has has gone through a couple iterations.

461
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<v Speaker 14>It's it's tried to find kind of place to protect

462
00:22:01.319 --> 00:22:03.920
<v Speaker 14>the players, right like we've all we've all seen those

463
00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:07.759
<v Speaker 14>huge collisions in baseball and they look like they're playing football,

464
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<v Speaker 14>not baseball.

465
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<v Speaker 5>So I think the I think the intent.

466
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<v Speaker 14>Of the rule is in the right spot, but right now,

467
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<v Speaker 14>the way that it's being interpreted is taking.

468
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<v Speaker 5>Away from the just the the soul of our game.

469
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<v Speaker 5>I mean, she played it perfectly.

470
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<v Speaker 14>The girl was host she was hung out to dry,

471
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<v Speaker 14>and unfortunately they they ruled in favor of the wording

472
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<v Speaker 14>of the rule rather the intent of the of the play.

473
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm offering wondering you, uh, ninety five, do you

474
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<v Speaker 3>think I know this, This is dumb question, So apologize

475
00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:44.680
<v Speaker 3>for dumb questions because I've dumb question. I was there

476
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<v Speaker 3>for a couple of the championships for you Bay back

477
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<v Speaker 3>in the early nineties, and I'm sure the game today,

478
00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:52.640
<v Speaker 3>you guys still would have crushed it.

479
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<v Speaker 2>You guys would have won a number of titles.

480
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<v Speaker 14>Well, the crazy thing is everybody like applauds Oklahoma for

481
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<v Speaker 14>being the first team to win four in a row,

482
00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:05.599
<v Speaker 14>but if you actually look back in the record books,

483
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<v Speaker 14>there is an asterisk next to nineteen ninety five because

484
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<v Speaker 14>that title has been vacated by UCLA. And who played

485
00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:17.319
<v Speaker 14>UCLA in the finals that year, a little school in Tucson,

486
00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:22.640
<v Speaker 14>and that would have made actually my career four national championships.

487
00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:25.920
<v Speaker 5>But that title has been vacated and they have not

488
00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:26.640
<v Speaker 5>reassigned it.

489
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<v Speaker 14>So I mean, like if you look at the Olympics,

490
00:23:28.839 --> 00:23:30.880
<v Speaker 14>if they take a gold medal away from an athlete,

491
00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:33.279
<v Speaker 14>they give the gold medal to the other team or

492
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<v Speaker 14>the other person. But so far I have not received

493
00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:40.079
<v Speaker 14>that national championship trophy. So but I would say that

494
00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:44.079
<v Speaker 14>that the UFA teams from ninety three to ninety seven,

495
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<v Speaker 14>because actually they won in ninety seven as well, which

496
00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:48.880
<v Speaker 14>would have made it five in a row. I think

497
00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:52.319
<v Speaker 14>those teams were stellar and could have put up a

498
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<v Speaker 14>pretty good fight.

499
00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Has a game changed since then?

500
00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:58.440
<v Speaker 5>In your opinion, it definitely has. It definitely has.

501
00:23:58.519 --> 00:24:01.200
<v Speaker 14>And when you think about how it's changed, it's changed

502
00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:04.799
<v Speaker 14>in the sense that there's so many more analytics that

503
00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:08.039
<v Speaker 14>are able to be tracked and watched and viewed and studied.

504
00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:10.720
<v Speaker 14>And so I mean back in the day, we literally

505
00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:13.240
<v Speaker 14>had a shirt that coach made that said chuck.

506
00:24:13.079 --> 00:24:15.039
<v Speaker 5>And duck, meaning like, throw the ball, we're going to

507
00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:18.519
<v Speaker 5>hit it. And that was the extent of the analytics.

508
00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:20.680
<v Speaker 14>I don't know that coach Candrea ever talked to us

509
00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:23.559
<v Speaker 14>about this is a rise ball picture we're facing today,

510
00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:26.359
<v Speaker 14>or this is a dominant curve ball pitcher that we're

511
00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:26.920
<v Speaker 14>facing today.

512
00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:28.079
<v Speaker 5>We never talked about it.

513
00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:30.759
<v Speaker 14>We literally stood in the box and said throw whatever

514
00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:32.960
<v Speaker 14>you got because we're going to hit it, basically right

515
00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:36.240
<v Speaker 14>back down your throat. So now you have these scouting

516
00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:39.720
<v Speaker 14>reports and the spray charts and the heat maps, and

517
00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:43.519
<v Speaker 14>teams are studying those and we've seen the evolution of

518
00:24:43.559 --> 00:24:46.920
<v Speaker 14>a hitter just grow because of the information.

519
00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:49.599
<v Speaker 5>I will say that the rules need to catch up.

520
00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:51.960
<v Speaker 14>I think we're calling too small of a strike zone,

521
00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:53.960
<v Speaker 14>which is giving the hitters the advantage.

522
00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:58.599
<v Speaker 5>So while the hitters are still strong and powerful, they

523
00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:00.519
<v Speaker 5>have more information stepping in to the box.

524
00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:04.079
<v Speaker 14>And then we're really limiting our pitching staff by shrinking

525
00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:06.079
<v Speaker 14>the zone to a point that we're making them throw

526
00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:08.960
<v Speaker 14>the ball in very hitable zones rather than expanding the

527
00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:10.400
<v Speaker 14>zone and making the hitter improve.

528
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<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna say, oh, oh, I'm sure she'd

529
00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:16.759
<v Speaker 3>been watching you. Pay attention, you've been doing all this thing. Hey,

530
00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Today there's a story in the Athletic The Texas Tech

531
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<v Speaker 3>picture is the face, they said, the face of the

532
00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:24.359
<v Speaker 3>of the softball world today.

533
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<v Speaker 2>Would you agree? And I really think she's fantastic.

534
00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:31.160
<v Speaker 14>Nigerie Kennedy at Texas Tech is who you're speaking of.

535
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

536
00:25:31.720 --> 00:25:37.279
<v Speaker 14>So, I had the pleasure of being around Nie when

537
00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:41.440
<v Speaker 14>she was fourteen years old, and she was a strong

538
00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:44.359
<v Speaker 14>specimen of an athlete back then, but.

539
00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:46.200
<v Speaker 5>She was also like a newborn giraffe.

540
00:25:46.279 --> 00:25:48.160
<v Speaker 14>She had legs and arms going everywhere, and the ball

541
00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:49.920
<v Speaker 14>would hit the middle of the backstop when she'd let

542
00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:52.880
<v Speaker 14>it go. She has done such a good job of

543
00:25:54.279 --> 00:25:58.400
<v Speaker 14>allowing herself to be coachable and teachable, and she's our

544
00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:00.960
<v Speaker 14>first million dollar athlete.

545
00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:03.759
<v Speaker 5>In the sport. Right She transferred to Texas Tech for

546
00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:05.119
<v Speaker 5>a million dollars, and.

547
00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:11.519
<v Speaker 14>We can talk about how an Il is affecting collegiate

548
00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:16.359
<v Speaker 14>athletics perhaps for another decade, but with the way that

549
00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:19.880
<v Speaker 14>she is playing right now, she truly is one of

550
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:23.079
<v Speaker 14>the most dominant players in our game. And one of

551
00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:24.920
<v Speaker 14>the reasons she went to Texas Tech was so that

552
00:26:25.039 --> 00:26:27.480
<v Speaker 14>she could hit two because she's good on both sides

553
00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:29.519
<v Speaker 14>of the ball, and when she was at Stanford she

554
00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:30.319
<v Speaker 14>didn't really hit.

555
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:34.480
<v Speaker 5>So is she the face of our game?

556
00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

557
00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:36.400
<v Speaker 5>Right now, she definitely is.

558
00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:38.880
<v Speaker 14>But she made a huge mistake last night by not

559
00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:42.119
<v Speaker 14>knowing how to throw a pitch out to be able

560
00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:45.839
<v Speaker 14>to intentionally walk a batter and reseat would take advantage.

561
00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was very bizarre.

562
00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:50.839
<v Speaker 3>Even when the other pitches, the first two that were close,

563
00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:53.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking, what's she doing because the catcher didn't really

564
00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:55.160
<v Speaker 3>go for her outside and think, what is she doing

565
00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:57.240
<v Speaker 3>that's hittable? And then lo and behold that third pitch

566
00:26:57.400 --> 00:26:58.160
<v Speaker 3>was like, holy crap.

567
00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:01.400
<v Speaker 14>Well, when you think about it, that's not something she's

568
00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:04.200
<v Speaker 14>had to work on. She has intentionally walked three people

569
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:08.240
<v Speaker 14>in three years. So it's not a skill that she

570
00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:11.880
<v Speaker 14>unfortunately has been using regularly. Because she's so dominant in

571
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:14.960
<v Speaker 14>the circle, she usually attacks everyone. So when that call

572
00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:17.400
<v Speaker 14>was made last night, not only was she unprepared, but

573
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:20.640
<v Speaker 14>so was her catcher. Her catcher didn't didn't give her

574
00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:24.119
<v Speaker 14>the correct location either to be able to throw that ball.

575
00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:24.640
<v Speaker 5>In the right spot.

576
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:27.839
<v Speaker 14>And reefe Atwood is one of the best catchers in

577
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:31.240
<v Speaker 14>the country and just a junior has another year to

578
00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:34.119
<v Speaker 14>go at Texas. But when you watched the way that

579
00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:38.440
<v Speaker 14>she was watching how Nijerie Kennedy was throwing her, she

580
00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:41.079
<v Speaker 14>swung at a three and zero pitch like that was

581
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:41.640
<v Speaker 14>supposed to.

582
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:44.400
<v Speaker 5>Be ball four, put her on and because of that,

583
00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:46.839
<v Speaker 5>the defenses on their heels. This is what allowed that

584
00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:47.599
<v Speaker 5>ball to get through.

585
00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:51.640
<v Speaker 14>If they were playing that regular Nigerie cannedy defense behind her,

586
00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:54.240
<v Speaker 14>they would have gotten that ground ball and gotten out

587
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:54.599
<v Speaker 14>of the inning.

588
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:56.319
<v Speaker 5>But they were all waiting on their heels for her

589
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:57.319
<v Speaker 5>to just take the walk.

590
00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:00.400
<v Speaker 14>And so I appreciate how aggressive refat was was and

591
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:03.359
<v Speaker 14>her ability to stay on top of her rise ball,

592
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:06.640
<v Speaker 14>but she wasn't throwing with the same velocity either right, Like,

593
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:09.279
<v Speaker 14>if she throws that pitch at seventy three seventy four

594
00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:11.440
<v Speaker 14>miles an hour like she had been humming them in there,

595
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:15.119
<v Speaker 14>that's a much different at that. But when she's just

596
00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:17.599
<v Speaker 14>when she's let off and is just throwing maybe sixty

597
00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:19.599
<v Speaker 14>four or sixty five. I actually wasn't looking at the

598
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:23.240
<v Speaker 14>velocities on those, but she took off, she took her

599
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:26.079
<v Speaker 14>foot off the pedal, took some velocity off of it,

600
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:31.039
<v Speaker 14>made it a hitable velocity and in a hittable zone.

601
00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:32.920
<v Speaker 5>All of a sudden, she opened herself up to a

602
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:33.440
<v Speaker 5>big loss.

603
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:37.759
<v Speaker 2>Right, So if you're I'm playing like armchair quarterback here, yeah,

604
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I love that, and you're going eight? Was that a

605
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:43.160
<v Speaker 2>coaching error? I mean, if I have a number one pitcher,

606
00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:45.880
<v Speaker 2>why don't I let her go? Like, let her go,

607
00:28:46.359 --> 00:28:46.880
<v Speaker 2>let her throw.

608
00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:51.400
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I appreciate wanting to throw, like, let her just

609
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:54.759
<v Speaker 14>like take the reins and go. That was one of

610
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:57.359
<v Speaker 14>those players that's a little bit scary. And you had

611
00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:00.680
<v Speaker 14>first base open because they stole like after the first pitch.

612
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:03.119
<v Speaker 14>It was the first and third situation, and they stole

613
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:05.839
<v Speaker 14>the runner at first the second, so first base was open.

614
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:09.400
<v Speaker 14>They were intentionally walking her anyway, and the hitter behind her,

615
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:12.200
<v Speaker 14>Julie Mitchell, only had three home runs on the year.

616
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:14.720
<v Speaker 14>I would much rather throw to Julie Mitchell than I

617
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:19.319
<v Speaker 14>would to Reef that would so I appreciate that coaching

618
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:22.319
<v Speaker 14>decision to put her on. However, if you have not

619
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:24.960
<v Speaker 14>practiced that skill, you're in big trouble.

620
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:26.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we saw that last night.

621
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:29.160
<v Speaker 3>And not to disregard the Texas pitcher because she was

622
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:31.920
<v Speaker 3>fantastic as well, and obviously two of the best teams

623
00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:35.160
<v Speaker 3>out there, you know, and in my mind the Tennessee

624
00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:36.519
<v Speaker 3>pitcher may be the better.

625
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Of all of them.

626
00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:40.720
<v Speaker 14>Well, and it's hard to say, right because Carlin Pickens

627
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:43.920
<v Speaker 14>at Tennessee has now the fastest recorded pitch in the

628
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:47.240
<v Speaker 14>history of our sport. It's being said that the equivalent

629
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:52.039
<v Speaker 14>of her seventy nine mile an hour pitch is equivalent

630
00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:54.880
<v Speaker 14>to one hundred and eleven mile an hour Major League fasketball.

631
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:58.799
<v Speaker 14>So we've not seen that in baseball. So you can't

632
00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:01.160
<v Speaker 14>say softball is an easy sport. I challenge anybody to

633
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<v Speaker 14>face Carlin Pickens to tell me that softball is an

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<v Speaker 14>easy sport. But when you look at the way teague

635
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<v Speaker 14>in Cavan, the picture for Texas has been throwing at

636
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<v Speaker 14>the end of her season, She's done such a good

637
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<v Speaker 14>job of trusting her defense, probably the last through the

638
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<v Speaker 14>postseason and maybe the last couple games of like during

639
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<v Speaker 14>the SEC tournament. Her ERA during that span was over seven.

640
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<v Speaker 14>Like it was like seven point three to three or

641
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<v Speaker 14>something like that. And so after super Regionals or after

642
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<v Speaker 14>Regionals heading into super Regionals, she took a step back

643
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<v Speaker 14>and I think realized she needed to trust her defense

644
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<v Speaker 14>more and stop putting all the pressure on herself to

645
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<v Speaker 14>be a strikeout pitcher, and in doing so has relaxed

646
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<v Speaker 14>in the circle, is throwing more efficiently, hitting her spots,

647
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<v Speaker 14>trusting her defense, and all of a sudden, you're seeing

648
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<v Speaker 14>a very dominant Texas team now able to score runs

649
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<v Speaker 14>and play better. They're starting shortstop in the fall to

650
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<v Speaker 14>an ACL injury, and with that it created some waves

651
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<v Speaker 14>defensively for them. They've made more errors than they have

652
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<v Speaker 14>in the past, and with those errors it gives you

653
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<v Speaker 14>moments of pause, right Like as a pitcher, you have

654
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<v Speaker 14>to hold your breath at times if you know you're

655
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<v Speaker 14>going to throw a hitable pitch that's going to yield

656
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<v Speaker 14>the ground ball to the left side.

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<v Speaker 5>You think, is it going to be an out or

658
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<v Speaker 5>is it going to be an error? And they moved that.

659
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<v Speaker 14>Stuart, who is now playing and left was playing shortstop,

660
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<v Speaker 14>and she made some critical errors in their Super Regional

661
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<v Speaker 14>that made them actually lose a game to Clemson and

662
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<v Speaker 14>pushed it to the if necessary third game. They made

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<v Speaker 14>the change to move Leanne Good into the shortstop slot

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<v Speaker 14>and move the shortstop Stewart into left field, and that's

665
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<v Speaker 14>made all the difference.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, be remiss to not to ask you about the juve.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought Clinton had a fantastic year. When you go

668
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<v Speaker 3>forty eight and thirteen, it's a very very good year.

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<v Speaker 3>And now we have all these transfers. It's happening in

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<v Speaker 3>other places. But what are your thoughts on what's going

671
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<v Speaker 3>on here?

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, you know, if you want to play for a

673
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<v Speaker 14>quality coach at a quality school and have a great

674
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<v Speaker 14>fan base, Tucson is the place to be. Love Arizona

675
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<v Speaker 14>obviously I chose it myself, But if you're a home

676
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<v Speaker 14>run hitter, it's where you want to go because the

677
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<v Speaker 14>ball flies and you get to track a whole lot

678
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<v Speaker 14>more left turns in your career by hitting at Arizona But.

679
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<v Speaker 5>More than that, you've got you've got graduation, which.

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<v Speaker 14>Really hit Arizona hard. It really hit the pitching staff

681
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<v Speaker 14>hard with graduation. Losing Branda Soddard and Devin Nets difficult, right,

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<v Speaker 14>But then you've got the transfers that hit on top

683
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<v Speaker 14>of it, and obviously everywhere you have to re recruit

684
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<v Speaker 14>your staff every single year because the transfer portal has

685
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<v Speaker 14>become just a hotbed and everybody's looking for where they

686
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<v Speaker 14>can go and put their hand out and ask for money.

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<v Speaker 14>I'm not sure that this is the land. I mean,

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<v Speaker 14>this may be the last year that you can do

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<v Speaker 14>that because of the the rulings of the house that

690
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<v Speaker 14>are going to be coming out and changing the way

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<v Speaker 14>that nil is done and profit and revenue sharing is

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<v Speaker 14>going to change the way that the money looks in

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<v Speaker 14>the athlete's hands. But I don't know that the transfers

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<v Speaker 14>that you're seeing out of Arizona are a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 14>Sometimes you do need to shake things up, and not

696
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<v Speaker 14>to say that any of them are bad seeds, but

697
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<v Speaker 14>sometimes a culture is created that you need to shake

698
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<v Speaker 14>it up a little bit. And Caitlin Lowe is such

699
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<v Speaker 14>a good coach. She has established such a great coaching staff.

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<v Speaker 14>It hurts my heart when I see the when I

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<v Speaker 14>see the I'm gonna just call them twitter trolls.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm old, but that come on and bad.

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<v Speaker 14>Mouth the coaching staff because, like to your point, it's

704
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<v Speaker 14>hard to be an armchair quarter or a just a

705
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<v Speaker 14>what's it called an armchair quarterback?

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<v Speaker 5>Cude, thank you, I'm like, it doesn't sound right, and

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<v Speaker 5>share quarterback when you can look back on, oh, you

708
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<v Speaker 5>should have done this.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, it's easy to see everything in the rear view

710
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<v Speaker 14>mirror a little bit differently. But moving through a season

711
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<v Speaker 14>like this, they had a fantastic year. They just ran

712
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<v Speaker 14>into an old miss team that caught fire there at

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<v Speaker 14>the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no question. And then now, what are you up to?

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 5>I am. I'm in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 14>I am at the inaugural AUSL, which is the Athletes

718
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<v Speaker 14>Unlimited Softball League, which has been endorsed by MLB. They've

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<v Speaker 14>invested into this professional softball league. I'm the general manager

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<v Speaker 14>for the Bandits. My head coach is Stacynuveman. Denise who

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<v Speaker 14>was the all time home run queen for over a decade. Now,

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<v Speaker 14>granted she was a Bruin and I'm a wildcat, and

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<v Speaker 14>usually those two things don't mix, but we have chosen

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<v Speaker 14>to put our past behind us and join forces for good.

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<v Speaker 14>But I mean, Stacey's such a good coach. Four teams

726
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<v Speaker 14>in the league. We've got the games starting this weekend.

727
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<v Speaker 5>I heard that Joe Torre isn't going to be in

728
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<v Speaker 5>the house at our.

729
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<v Speaker 14>Games this weekend here in Chicago. We've also got two

730
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<v Speaker 14>teams that are starting their season in Wichita. So it's

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<v Speaker 14>a barn storming tour this year of four teams all

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<v Speaker 14>around the country, and then next year we'll be expanding

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<v Speaker 14>to six teams settling in markets all across the country.

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<v Speaker 14>And just really excited to see the way that these

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<v Speaker 14>athletes are being treated like finally treated like professionals, with

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<v Speaker 14>teams of support staff all around them. And every time

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<v Speaker 14>I turn around, I think, well, maybe this is my.

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<v Speaker 5>Job as a GM. I realized, Nope, there's somebody already

739
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<v Speaker 5>in that position. I don't even have to worry about it.

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<v Speaker 14>So I'm just so encouraged by the way that it's

741
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<v Speaker 14>being supported and the endorsement of MLB and actually the

742
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<v Speaker 14>financial backing they became. Like I think, if I read

743
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<v Speaker 14>the article right, twenty five percent partners in the league.

744
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<v Speaker 14>So with that kind of support and backing, it's just

745
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<v Speaker 14>bodes well for the future of our sport that has

746
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<v Speaker 14>seemed to just taken the country by storm. Everybody seems

747
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<v Speaker 14>to love the game, and not just those that played

748
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<v Speaker 14>it are. My boss at ESPN created a shirt for

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<v Speaker 14>us that says, there's those that love softball and those

750
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<v Speaker 14>who just don't know it yet, and so I think

751
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<v Speaker 14>that's that's kind of.

752
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<v Speaker 5>Where the country is at it.

753
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<v Speaker 14>You're going to probably see higher viewership of the champ

754
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<v Speaker 14>Series in Oklahoma City over that the NBA game tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no question, I'll be one of those.

756
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<v Speaker 3>In fact, I saw a shot of the stadium, the

757
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<v Speaker 3>overall shot of the stadium, and I'm thinking that wasn't

758
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:39.079
<v Speaker 3>the stadium I went to a ninety one when you

759
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<v Speaker 3>guys are winning the first row.

760
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<v Speaker 5>No, definitely not. It has added on layers.

761
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<v Speaker 14>There's no more green berms. Now on the side, You've

762
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<v Speaker 14>got stadiums all around. Yeah, that place is amazing and

763
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<v Speaker 14>I'm so grateful. I was a little bit worried with

764
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<v Speaker 14>Oklahoma or Oklahoma State not in the finals, would they

765
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<v Speaker 14>really fill the stadium?

766
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<v Speaker 5>And you know, what they're showing up.

767
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<v Speaker 12>They did.

768
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<v Speaker 5>It's the best softball in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Jenny, appreciate your time. Thank you, good luck than

770
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<v Speaker 2>you you too, thank you, great stuff, great stuff GM GM.

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<v Speaker 3>I need a title like that. We'll talk about that later.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I can give myself a raiz or something you

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<v Speaker 3>could Yeah, we'll take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>Sports een fifty, Welcome back to.

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<v Speaker 3>One of about here Fox Sports fourteenth of the I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Steve Rivera. You or Andy Brown got ray with us,

845
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<v Speaker 3>been helping us finish off the show here they thanks

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<v Speaker 3>to Jenny Dalton.

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<v Speaker 2>Jenny's a very impressive lady. Yeah, yeah, that's I was

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<v Speaker 2>reading up. She's still she still holds some records and

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<v Speaker 2>Packed twelve Kids Packed twelve and n C double A

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<v Speaker 2>and for R rby eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that was during the tough time when the

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<v Speaker 3>balls weren't flying that there now oh yeah, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 3>is some great some great former players here. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 3>now there's a few of them, you know, doing TV

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<v Speaker 3>our her a couple more probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when you played at the best program for in

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<v Speaker 2>the nineties, you have some credibility. And I still believe.

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<v Speaker 3>I still believe this, and I know that people at

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<v Speaker 3>you maybe if they listen to me, that because they

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<v Speaker 3>were allowed to speak to the media openly and freely

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<v Speaker 3>and communicate like you know, Richard and Steve and all

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<v Speaker 3>these guys you know JT they were, and Richard Jefferson

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<v Speaker 3>that they were. They learned, they learned how to be

864
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<v Speaker 3>in front of the media, talk like the media. Now

865
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<v Speaker 3>they become us, you know. Now it's like you go

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<v Speaker 3>behind a podium and send the podium five minutes and

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<v Speaker 3>then you're done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I know I talk about that party too much,

869
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<v Speaker 2>but to me it means something. They're more accessible than

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<v Speaker 2>than the Oh, without question, yeah, you feel we went

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<v Speaker 2>to I won't use that for to go into the

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<v Speaker 2>locker room with you guys, right we yea, you know

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<v Speaker 2>afterwards everybody come in Now, you guys select to they

874
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<v Speaker 2>go down the hallway. Well, you're walking with them, don't you, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're protecting them from the coach.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The coach goes that, who's he walk He's bogging Sean Miller. No,

878
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<v Speaker 2>I don't do that. I have a guy does that, Jerry.

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry escorts coach around. It's kind of superstitious.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Those coaches they get to their their methods, their methods,

882
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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, no, what are you doing. You're changing

883
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<v Speaker 2>my guy. I'm like, he's sick. I'm not changing. He's

884
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<v Speaker 2>just he needs a break. I mean, yeah, Jerry. I'm like, well,

885
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<v Speaker 2>Jerry's sick. Oh no, it's like I deflated the ball

886
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<v Speaker 2>or something like that. You're still playing on the basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't do that. It's like looting his superstitions with

888
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:11.719
<v Speaker 2>the popcorn. Oh yeah, popcorn. We did I told you,

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<v Speaker 2>I did a. I did a. I did a paper

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<v Speaker 2>on that in one of my psychology classes about superstition

891
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<v Speaker 2>and how it's not really superstition, it's you getting in

892
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<v Speaker 2>the right frame of mind to play your best ball.

893
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<v Speaker 2>So you go through your process, and if you're not

894
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<v Speaker 2>doing your process, you don't feel like you've prepared right,

895
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<v Speaker 2>and you just feel off. So what do you feel

896
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<v Speaker 2>about superstitious fans? Superstitious fans with him? With him? That's

897
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:39.719
<v Speaker 2>another paper. I have to sit in that chair, I

898
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<v Speaker 2>have to watch it from that that angle. I have

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<v Speaker 2>to have this that and that was your extra credit paper. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well the popcorn, right, and then you have some gum.

901
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<v Speaker 2>Didn't you miss up gum? No? I didn't mess up gumb.

902
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<v Speaker 2>Nobody he always had. You had red gum or blue gum.

903
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<v Speaker 2>And he basically you would yell down down the bench

904
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<v Speaker 2>to me what color I want? Like, hey, Brown, I'm

905
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<v Speaker 2>like yes, coach Blue. I'm like, okay, Blue, I bring

906
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<v Speaker 2>a blue stick and go right. Yeah coach, No, you're

907
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<v Speaker 2>not going in give me the blue gud. No, that's

908
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<v Speaker 2>the first game, he said Brown, And I jumped up

909
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<v Speaker 2>like I was going in because we're up like thirty

910
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:16.440
<v Speaker 2>two minutes left in the game. I was like, it's

911
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<v Speaker 2>got to be my turn. I jump up and he's

912
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<v Speaker 2>like red and I'm like, god, dang it. I turn

913
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:25.039
<v Speaker 2>around and coaches like, no, no, no, I'm just messling

914
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<v Speaker 2>you go in. Did you do that?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah?

916
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<v Speaker 2>Well, he doesn't have that sense of humor because he

917
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<v Speaker 2>was dry. He was right, and I didn't see it,

918
00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:35.880
<v Speaker 2>and the guys told me it was gonna happen, but

919
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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't see it. Actually had your

920
00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:40.119
<v Speaker 2>your right uniform. Oh, I had everything ready to go.

921
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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't get taped. I usually didn't get tape

922
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<v Speaker 2>for games you were was getting in, especially the Michigan

923
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:50.079
<v Speaker 2>game when we got in. Yeah, I wasn't tape. I

924
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:53.199
<v Speaker 2>barely have my shorts on. I'm like, should I put

925
00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:57.039
<v Speaker 2>shorts on underneath these warm ups? Yeah? Better kiss in case.

926
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:00.760
<v Speaker 2>I think there was a time or two when someone didn't. Oh, yeah,

927
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:03.920
<v Speaker 2>that was before me. They warned me, right, you should

928
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:07.840
<v Speaker 2>always have your shorts on in case. Yeah, but that's yeah.

929
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<v Speaker 2>I haven't even got told that. You're probably not gonna play,

930
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<v Speaker 2>So we're not gonna put tape on you because we

931
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:17.000
<v Speaker 2>got a budget. Do you want to I'm a practice.

932
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:19.599
<v Speaker 2>Can you wear braces instead of getting tap? Its like,

933
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:24.119
<v Speaker 2>no tape cuts this money for you to get at

934
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:26.039
<v Speaker 2>the game. It's like, I'm still practicing.

935
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So we're gonna have just the last minute to

936
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<v Speaker 3>add to the show. I didn't have him on the

937
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:34.800
<v Speaker 3>social Pete Williams come on at four seventeen, a good

938
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<v Speaker 3>friend of ours. Uh, one of the more one of

939
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:42.920
<v Speaker 3>the greatest guys ever. Got your lot for the ludols

940
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<v Speaker 3>in camp. But just eccentric because we all hell too.

941
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<v Speaker 3>In the last Spy.

942
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he he commands the room when he walks in,

943
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:55.920
<v Speaker 2>he just has that presence about him and it's yeah,

944
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<v Speaker 2>you want to be and you want to listen to

945
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:00.679
<v Speaker 2>what he says. And I liked watching the this last

946
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:02.679
<v Speaker 2>two years. When he sits down in front of him

947
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<v Speaker 2>and starts talking about, you know what we did, how

948
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<v Speaker 2>we laid this out for.

949
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<v Speaker 3>We explained that because Tommy has brought some of you guys,

950
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:12.760
<v Speaker 3>the guys in to talk about the history of the game.

951
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there were what nine or ten of us stand

952
00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:19.360
<v Speaker 2>sitting in front of the whole group. And and Pete's

953
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:21.039
<v Speaker 2>the guy that led to charge, right, He's the guy

954
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:23.280
<v Speaker 2>that came out and said, listen, the reason why you're

955
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:25.360
<v Speaker 2>sitting in these nice chairs, and the reason why you

956
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:27.880
<v Speaker 2>have this nice locker room, the reason why you have

957
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:31.159
<v Speaker 2>those nice shoes is because of us up here, the

958
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:34.039
<v Speaker 2>ones that brought it first. So you're not we don't

959
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:35.639
<v Speaker 2>expect you to play for us. We want you to

960
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:38.920
<v Speaker 2>play for the guys ten years from now, the guys

961
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:41.920
<v Speaker 2>that come in after you, you're playing for them like

962
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:45.239
<v Speaker 2>we played for you. And I just like I almost cry.

963
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:48.400
<v Speaker 2>I was like, damn, Like what was I doing then?

964
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Was heading out gum? So yeah, guy, it better be

965
00:46:57.239 --> 00:47:01.320
<v Speaker 2>a good gum passer out our guy that water. Yeah.

966
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<v Speaker 3>No, I've known that story, but I didn't know to

967
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:05.599
<v Speaker 3>that extent. We'll ask Pete to talk about that. But

968
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:07.880
<v Speaker 3>I knew that Tommy had gotten you know, some of

969
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:09.039
<v Speaker 3>the guys that were here for Lukeke.

970
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:12.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's big kudos to tell me about that,

971
00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:16.760
<v Speaker 2>bringing guys back right to teach and to keep that

972
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:20.800
<v Speaker 2>culture going of it's it's it's Arizona basketball right right right.

973
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, Sean didn't erase the past. No, no, for whatever reason,

974
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:27.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, he just didn't. And because we had you

975
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:29.519
<v Speaker 3>guys in with him too, and he he didn't do that.

976
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:31.800
<v Speaker 3>But Tommy, you know, Tommy goes to the event every

977
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:34.119
<v Speaker 3>now and again, yeah, and mingles with the guys and

978
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:36.679
<v Speaker 3>you know he knows you guys are important, No, he is.

979
00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:39.199
<v Speaker 2>And then and that's I think that was what was

980
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:42.880
<v Speaker 2>missing between Lute and Tommy. That was kind of that

981
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:46.639
<v Speaker 2>was missing a lot. Yeah, because obviously Lute loved you

982
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:48.599
<v Speaker 2>guys and he loved seeing you guys come back. Yeah.

983
00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:52.280
<v Speaker 2>The biggest I think the biggest kudos are the most

984
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:55.239
<v Speaker 2>impressed me the most when Tommy came was the zoom

985
00:47:55.360 --> 00:47:58.239
<v Speaker 2>that he had with just the players ex players, Right,

986
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:02.159
<v Speaker 2>he invited players and managers and guys that and we

987
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:04.960
<v Speaker 2>did a zoom. He goes, this is players only. You

988
00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:08.920
<v Speaker 2>guys can ask me whatever you want. He goes, I'm

989
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:11.719
<v Speaker 2>just asking you give me a chance. Because there had

990
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:14.159
<v Speaker 2>been some concerns, Yeah, that he was not the guy

991
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:18.280
<v Speaker 2>because some other guys thinking, who all, Yeah, he's an outsider. Yeah,

992
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:21.320
<v Speaker 2>and Pete was a big part of that as well.

993
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:26.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm giving his candid response endorsement. But he also asked

994
00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:30.480
<v Speaker 2>the tough questions, right, So that was that was ideal

995
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:32.360
<v Speaker 2>for a coach coming in to say, Hey, what do

996
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:36.239
<v Speaker 2>you guys need to see from me? As alumni and

997
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:39.280
<v Speaker 2>as guys that built this program, Right, what do you

998
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:41.800
<v Speaker 2>need to see from me? Because all I'm asking is

999
00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:43.599
<v Speaker 2>you give me a chance. Right, And he's done a

1000
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:45.679
<v Speaker 2>pretty good job. And he also said, if you come

1001
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:48.119
<v Speaker 2>into town and to come visit and you don't knock

1002
00:48:48.159 --> 00:48:52.000
<v Speaker 2>on my door. I'll be pissed because I want you

1003
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:54.079
<v Speaker 2>back here, and I asked you to do one thing.

1004
00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:57.199
<v Speaker 2>Is that bring me a story. Bring me a story

1005
00:48:57.239 --> 00:49:00.119
<v Speaker 2>from when you played. Something I can pass on you

1006
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:02.719
<v Speaker 2>the kids coming in, like why Arizona is such a

1007
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:05.079
<v Speaker 2>great place. I want to be able to tell these

1008
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:08.440
<v Speaker 2>kids coming in why Arizona is a problem. Yeah.

1009
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:11.679
<v Speaker 3>And he's got good, good people, you know, Gamon, Josh

1010
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:16.480
<v Speaker 3>and these guys who can tell those stories. Ohne, Steve

1011
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:17.480
<v Speaker 3>Kurrz obviously.

1012
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:20.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, yeah, you get those guys together though, Pete

1013
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:25.119
<v Speaker 2>and his boys, Joe, Joe Turner and those guys got

1014
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:27.880
<v Speaker 2>great story. Yeah, well, Joe Turner the story before there

1015
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:30.599
<v Speaker 2>was social media. Oh my god. Those guys are like,

1016
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:36.480
<v Speaker 2>if we had social media, we be in jail, probably

1017
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:39.960
<v Speaker 2>still writing stories about it. Is something over there. And

1018
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:41.119
<v Speaker 2>it was public already.

1019
00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:43.920
<v Speaker 3>Sewan and Sean and Joe were Shawn and a C

1020
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:46.000
<v Speaker 3>were driving the car right your car and flipped the

1021
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:46.840
<v Speaker 3>car and got.

1022
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:48.639
<v Speaker 2>It after and he looks at me.

1023
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:51.760
<v Speaker 3>You knew what that? Yeah, of course you knew about it.

1024
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:54.599
<v Speaker 3>But it became public. He was in the papers and stuff.

1025
00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that, yeh. Yeah, but yeah, those guys

1026
00:49:57.079 --> 00:49:59.280
<v Speaker 2>could write books. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, what do you

1027
00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:01.679
<v Speaker 2>think I'm still trying? Oh yeah, you know some of

1028
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:04.239
<v Speaker 2>those inside stories you got the tip of the Iceberg books.

1029
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:07.800
<v Speaker 2>There's stuff that we'll all take to our great It's

1030
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:10.280
<v Speaker 2>funny with some people. I've had two complaints at least

1031
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:12.960
<v Speaker 2>one for sure. They said, Rivera, I have one complaint

1032
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.039
<v Speaker 2>about your book is up? How come you didn't write

1033
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:19.920
<v Speaker 2>more more? I can't even fit so much twenty five guys.

1034
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.880
<v Speaker 2>You can get twenty five more players talking about crazy stuff,

1035
00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:25.440
<v Speaker 2>you know. Yeah, the problem is we don't. We don't

1036
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:27.519
<v Speaker 2>go too crazy with the stories though. We kind of

1037
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:30.320
<v Speaker 2>keep those in the house. But those are the fun times.

1038
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:32.599
<v Speaker 2>You get to back together and it doesn't matter what

1039
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:35.000
<v Speaker 2>decades you played or what year you played under Loot,

1040
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:38.519
<v Speaker 2>you still have similar stories. But it was still a

1041
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:41.519
<v Speaker 2>culture and you have a brotherhood and that's what's cool.

1042
00:50:41.559 --> 00:50:43.480
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter if you did pass out gum or

1043
00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:47.559
<v Speaker 2>you scored fifty, right, you're still belonging that brotherhood. And

1044
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:50.679
<v Speaker 2>that's the fun part. Yeah, meeting guys and talking to

1045
00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:54.239
<v Speaker 2>guys nowadays, it's fun. I mean, it's just it's a

1046
00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:57.239
<v Speaker 2>golden years you look back on sure, no, no, And

1047
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<v Speaker 2>then Pete's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, had it not been for him, the Craig McMillan's,

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<v Speaker 3>the Steve Kerrz, the Sean Elliotts, Kenny Loftons, those guys,

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<v Speaker 3>this thing would never have happened, Especially Pete.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Pizza cornerstone. To me, he's a cornerstone first.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, Craig is the first McDonald's all American,

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<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden in eighty eight, the magic kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of just came about. Craig is no nonsense guy too.

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<v Speaker 2>He's yeah, but he's yeah, he is. I mean, just

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<v Speaker 2>another level of athletes, right. I hang out with a

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<v Speaker 2>guy named John Fiena. You know John, He's got a

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<v Speaker 2>different level of competitiveness. Yeah, even on a golf on

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<v Speaker 2>a golf of course, You're just like, I can see

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<v Speaker 2>why you were in NFL. Yeah, there is, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>different gear level. There's a different gear, a different gear

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<v Speaker 2>or the mentality right now. Yes, and you're like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that was missing in my game. Dang it, you were

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<v Speaker 2>too nice. It was nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeahs doesn't win, man, it wins, but you know, it

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<v Speaker 3>wins to a degree.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you said, you know gets you on the bench.

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<v Speaker 2>Though he guess what color My ring was the same

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<v Speaker 2>color as everybody else. It's your red and blue. We

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<v Speaker 2>gotta go come back and talk about breaking new