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<v Speaker 1>Welcome, dear listener, and thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm and I'm Stephen, and this is a podcast all

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<v Speaker 2>about the weird and wonderful world of the dark comedy

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<v Speaker 2>anthology series Inside number nine.

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<v Speaker 1>On each episode, we'll be diving into another one of

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Pemberton and Reese Sheersmith's twisted tales, putting it under

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<v Speaker 1>a lens and examining it within an inch of its life.

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<v Speaker 2>So make yourself comfortable, grab a cup of tea, and

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<v Speaker 2>join us for the ninth degree.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome back. How are you? Yeah, I'm okay?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you not bad?

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<v Speaker 1>Tiring? First day back? Yeah? Yeah, So I'm update for

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I'm changing my job. Whoa, And today is

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<v Speaker 1>my first day back after Christmas, and I'm leaving in

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks. And let's just say today cemented that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty glad I'm leaving. You reade the right choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exciting times ahead, Yeah, hopefully. How long have you

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<v Speaker 2>got left?

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<v Speaker 1>Three and a half weeks? Not long? That's good. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>how's everything with you? Fine?

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<v Speaker 2>Catching up on all the emails that have stacked up

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<v Speaker 2>over Christmas, which feel battling through, but we're nearly there.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll by the end of this week we back up

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<v Speaker 2>to normal cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week's hair was love is a Stranger It just

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<v Speaker 1>shows like love is a stranger thing than anything else

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<v Speaker 1>in this world, even if it is for a bloody

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<v Speaker 1>football club. Did you spot it? Nicely done?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't actually spot it. Now there will be another

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<v Speaker 2>one somewhere in today's episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep an eye out, of course, as always.

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<v Speaker 2>And today we are back with episode two of series five.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite a big one. I feel death be not proud.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>The summary from Instavnum nine wiki. Young couple Beat and

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<v Speaker 2>Sam are finally on the property ladder, but the only

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<v Speaker 2>flat that they can afford has a darkened, sinister past,

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<v Speaker 2>one that demands to be heard. This episode of the

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<v Speaker 2>crossover seaquel to Shearsmith and Peberton's previous projects. Indeed, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we get it out the way immediately. So

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<v Speaker 2>for people that haven't seen it, this is a return

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<v Speaker 2>of two characters to very popular characters from their previous

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<v Speaker 2>series Psychovill Yeah, which I believe you've seen as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I have. Now, I was going to bring this up

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that obviously, you know, when they made this,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an element of some people will have seen psycho Villains.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people won't. Yeah, And when I was first watching

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<v Speaker 1>through Inside Number nine, i'd not seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and I debated with you how much I should

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<v Speaker 2>tell you in advance, and like whether I should say anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just let you see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think you told me anything, did you know?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I did. And from what I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>I still enjoyed it. I mean, having gone back and

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<v Speaker 1>watched Psychoville since I think it's enriched it. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think it still works even if you haven't seen it, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because they sort of tell you everything you need to know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot of obviously little nin jokes that

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<v Speaker 2>you probably wouldn't get. Yeah, but yeah, Inside of Nine

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<v Speaker 2>I think was the first of their works that I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>But by the time of this series, I think I

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<v Speaker 2>had already gone back and watched the Gentlemen' Psychoville, so

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know about them obviously. And that moment when

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<v Speaker 2>the door opens and the music and the theremin kicks

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<v Speaker 2>in or whatever it is, yeah, like oh wow, because

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't had it spoiled for me at all. I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is when I watched live. Yeah, it was awesome, fantastic,

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<v Speaker 2>But we're jumping ahead, we're jumping ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, yeah. I was curious as to why why

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<v Speaker 1>they chose to do this though, Why they chose to

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<v Speaker 1>bring back two characters from another show. Well, I sort

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<v Speaker 1>of have answers. Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>So apparently their plan they'd always thought the crux of

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<v Speaker 2>the story being wouldn't it be interesting to have a

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<v Speaker 2>story about someone that moves into a flat where some

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<v Speaker 2>serial killers lived, and like I think it was Steed

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<v Speaker 2>had grown up like in close proximity to where Dennis

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<v Speaker 2>Nielsen had lived and apparently used to walk past this

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<v Speaker 2>house and wonder like what the subsequent occupants of this

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<v Speaker 2>house would think? Mmm, and like, yeah, you've got a bargain.

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<v Speaker 2>But you also know that people died here horribly and

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<v Speaker 2>that's sort of spark the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they kept going on the line, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>working it out, and they were like, well, we've got

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<v Speaker 2>to come up with who the serial killers are? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they were like, well we've got some. They

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<v Speaker 2>were like, okay, this would work. And apparently the line

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<v Speaker 2>of get that baby boiled was what sold into them

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<v Speaker 2>when they came up with that, Yeah, and they were like, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got to do it now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I suppose because obviously Psychoville got kind of

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<v Speaker 1>terminated and not renewed when they had ideas of what

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to do. So I think maybe this gave

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<v Speaker 1>them the chance to. Yeah, they explore some of that.

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<v Speaker 2>There was always the plan apparently that David and Emily

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<v Speaker 2>would end up together have a baby. Yeah, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's nice they got to sort of carry on in

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<v Speaker 2>a way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So should we kind of go from the beginning then, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it probably should because so we've got, you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>nice young couple being sam sweet couple.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, moving into the recently renumbered number two to number nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was like, is that how realistic is that

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<v Speaker 1>to be people do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, but I think I remember them saying somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>on an interview or something that they'd gone back and

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<v Speaker 2>looked and hoped against Hopia would have been a nine

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<v Speaker 2>by chance.

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<v Speaker 1>But unfortunately it wasn't. It's just a bit like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit of a stretch that they were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because of what happened, they had to change

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<v Speaker 1>all the numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everyone in the whole building now lives in a

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<v Speaker 2>different flat exactly. Yeah, the confusion with people turning up

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<v Speaker 2>and knocking on the wrong doors later, Yeah, for the

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<v Speaker 2>next six six months, Grandma's two flows down because you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know where you live anymore. I identified so hard

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<v Speaker 2>with the like bagging the nail in the wall, like can.

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<v Speaker 1>You do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we owned the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Yeah, she's quite a sweet character.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they both are. Actually I buy them as a couple.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you don't get to see them together for

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<v Speaker 2>very long. No, there's not many scenes where they're actually together.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, it's sort of a fake one in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>Like not fake, but you think the whole story is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be just about them. Yeah, and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>no idea that it's this other thing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They said that they're trying to treated it a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a Janet Leey situation in Psycho that they build

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<v Speaker 2>Jenna Coleman as being this main character and it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of isn't really that much to do with her, and

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<v Speaker 2>used that to mask what the real story was. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because they desperately tried to keep the actual story a secret.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently it did leak though, because of some Chinese YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you coup the Chinese YouTube. They did their own

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<v Speaker 2>Inside and nine trailer for the series airing, knowing that

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<v Speaker 2>needed to be kept secret. I see, and they tried

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<v Speaker 2>to keep it like hushed it up. But yeah, they'd

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<v Speaker 2>try and really push the pictures of Jenna Coleman and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, because especially I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Around this time she'd have been in Doctor Who not

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<v Speaker 2>long since she was still probably riding that a bit

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<v Speaker 2>in the public consciousness. But apparently because obviously they recent

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<v Speaker 2>her had worked together in Sleep No More, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>and she'd said that she was a big fan, so

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<v Speaker 2>they'd managed to her. Oh nice, find an episode for.

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<v Speaker 1>Her, that's nice, yeah, lovely? Yeah yeah, an episode that

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<v Speaker 1>you're hard. Yeah. Well I did see as well that

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<v Speaker 1>Steve was saying that for any sort of super fans

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<v Speaker 1>and eagle eyed people, when the titles get released and

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<v Speaker 1>you know that it's called death being not Proud, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a there's a chance for you to work it out

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<v Speaker 1>if you know the famous scene in Psychoville, Yeah, which

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<v Speaker 1>gets replicated here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm going to sound really bad, like I have

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<v Speaker 2>watched Psychoville, but it's that long ago that I'm struggling

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<v Speaker 2>to remember everything about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've only watched it once same as well. I watched

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<v Speaker 1>it probably about a year ago. I think I watched

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<v Speaker 1>one episode today to sort of refresh myself a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>The rope one, Yeah, that is a great which apparently

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<v Speaker 1>was the kind of catalyst for the whole series of

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<v Speaker 1>Insnumber nine, wasn't it doing something in one? Yeah? One room?

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sort of come full circle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So yeah, anyway, so spooky stuff starts happening to

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<v Speaker 2>I reading too much into it that it being four

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen adds.

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<v Speaker 1>Up to nine? Are you what was four fourteen?

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<v Speaker 2>That's when the clock show is four fourteen on earth

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<v Speaker 2>alarm clock. When she wakes up and crap happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, yes, but actually probably not. You probably

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<v Speaker 1>aren't reading too much into it. Yeah, probably they needed

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<v Speaker 1>a time. They thought, I'll make the digit set up

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<v Speaker 1>to nine. Why not. Yeah. So this is one that

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<v Speaker 1>obviously on a first watch, is completely different to when

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<v Speaker 1>you know what's going on, Because on a first watch,

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<v Speaker 1>I think all that spooky stuff happening to her in

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<v Speaker 1>the night is quite terrifying. Yeah, but when you actually

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<v Speaker 1>know what's happening, and you know the character that's coming

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<v Speaker 1>so stupid, it's kind of funny, like the ping rolling

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't really know why the hoover's on the table.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing there's some reference that I can't remember. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know one little nippick. Why is the I CGI

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<v Speaker 2>that's rolling down the hallway? M I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>it needs to be And it's so jarring for me

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<v Speaker 2>now every time I watch it, I'm like, why is

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<v Speaker 2>this really obviously CGI eyeball ping.

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<v Speaker 1>Pong pole rolling down the hallway?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was watching the second time, second re watch

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<v Speaker 2>a day and I was like, oh, well, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>because they need it to end facing upwards or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and they couldn't do it, but it doesn't. It just

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<v Speaker 2>cuts while it's rolling. I don't know why they couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have done that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know, because it probably costs more to

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<v Speaker 1>do it in CGI than you just roll a ping

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<v Speaker 1>pong ball along the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that shot costs fifteen p you've already got the

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows? Who knows? I don't know how much for

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<v Speaker 1>listeners who haven't seen Psychoville Because they might not understand

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these references. But then I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to spoil anything. Wo, that's a good point to me

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<v Speaker 1>that you go and watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll spoil what we absolutely have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can get it on Amazon, I believe. Yeah, so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>What she done?

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<v Speaker 1>that they think there's more going on than there actually is. Yeah. True,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be explored before the other characters come in.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, susceptible to what susceptible to being possessed?

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing is he's he's really skeptical, like he

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe Yeah, maybe she's massively into tarot cards and

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<v Speaker 1>touch with the previous owner, see if they can shed

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<v Speaker 1>any light. Yeah, which, you know, give a what we

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<v Speaker 1>find out later. I'm like, how how do they get

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<v Speaker 1>in touch with the previous owner? Yeah? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>and he comes very quickly as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to find plot holes because I love

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<v Speaker 2>this episode. Yeah, but there are a lot of weirdness

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<v Speaker 2>of like, well, if they've just renumbered the flats, surely

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<v Speaker 2>then the previous owner is this serial killer. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>No, oh, I see what you mean, like that they've

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<v Speaker 1>It was about ten years ago that this all happened.

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<v Speaker 2>But wouldn't you just think that the massively cheapened house

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<v Speaker 2>after that they brush it under the carpet and plhen

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<v Speaker 2>it never happened and put it back up to its

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's been empty for all this time? Oh true? Maybe? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no one wanted it, who knows. I have a question.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really understand why why her dinner looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a face then turns the sausage around to make it smile.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a weird little bit. It's something I would do,

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<v Speaker 2>I was wondering, is it just coincidence that it looks

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<v Speaker 2>gonna we'll correct that and turn the sausage around.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I mean, what's the point of putting it

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm guessing it's, like you said, it is trying

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<v Speaker 2>to build the being some sort of other plot and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe she's a bit crazy or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, possibly, But it's so bizarre, isn't it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's that hot and cold showers thing. Again, if

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<v Speaker 2>you just had a creepy scene we'll have a joke

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<v Speaker 2>here and light in the mood for a moment. I

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<v Speaker 2>also imagine there's some runner somewhere cooking a sausage, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make it curl into a smiley face when it

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<v Speaker 2>fetching of the pack. That's old. He's all cooked straight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So this is the moment the reveal lock at

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<v Speaker 1>the door.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the fact that you already know who it is

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<v Speaker 2>by the terrible haircut, terrible even turn. Yeah yeah, good

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<v Speaker 2>old David's Towerbut yeah, this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is very weird because the Psychoville universe. Obviously this takes

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<v Speaker 1>place in the Psychoville universe. Yeah, and the characters in

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<v Speaker 1>that are so cartoonish and like sketch characters, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>had Beattie and Sam they feel so real. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's very strange when David comes in, and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like Steve's toned it down a bit for the for

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<v Speaker 1>this scene, like he's playing a slightly realer version of David.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you get in the flashbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well he is ten years older. Some shit's happened

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<v Speaker 2>to him, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But it's it's just very funny that you've got

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<v Speaker 1>these very real characters like Jenna Cormon is playing this

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<v Speaker 1>really real woman and she's sitting there having this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>like trying to act how she would act meeting this

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<v Speaker 1>person in real life, like who is out of a

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<v Speaker 1>sketch show basically, But yeah, I just thought that was interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>It is I'd say, I love this episode so much

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm willing to overlook Oh yes, so many things

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<v Speaker 2>to be like we got it, Like it doesn't work. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>we have to accept a lot of things for this

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<v Speaker 2>to really play.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, should we talk about David a little bit as

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<v Speaker 1>a character. He's a very interesting character, fun character.

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<v Speaker 2>Bless him. He's so innocent but obviously not but so

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<v Speaker 2>innocent as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, he's a child in a man's body essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. And I feel listeners drawing in their breath

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<v Speaker 1>and thinking, oh god, here he's going to bang it

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<v Speaker 1>bang has drum about this. But he's obviously an autistic stereotype,

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<v Speaker 1>right to me? Okay, and you know I say stereotype,

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<v Speaker 1>but like you know, people not dissimilar to this do exist.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously he's he's played for laughs largely, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's a problem with that necessarily. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought it was. It's funny, isn't it. How A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of the tropes that we laugh

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<v Speaker 1>at and characters do come from neurodivergence, like his his

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<v Speaker 1>complete misunderstanding of social norms, like when Emily gives him

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<v Speaker 1>the smoothie and he just takes it and shuts the

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<v Speaker 1>door in her face, and he takes things literally, like

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<v Speaker 1>when you know, he says about his mum died and

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<v Speaker 1>bees like, I'm so sorry, and he's like, well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not your fault. And obviously the hyperfixation and special interest

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<v Speaker 1>in serial killers. Yeah, like it's I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>that's deliberate and intentional, but whether they deliberately thought where

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<v Speaker 1>he's an autistic character or not, that is the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of person that they're basing him on. So I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was I just thought i'd call that out,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah and say, yeah, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's that tricky thing that it probably wouldn't work

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<v Speaker 2>with certain characters. Like when you have it, you bring

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<v Speaker 2>a character back from years ago and like then they're

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<v Speaker 2>under modern lens and they're down to modern scrutiny. These

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel too bad, but there certain characters that you

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't bring back like I don't know if I can.

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<v Speaker 2>They've gone into League of Gentlemen and you can't have

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<v Speaker 2>Babs from the taxi. No, you can't know certain characters

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<v Speaker 2>like that. It's awkward, yes, but I think they get

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<v Speaker 2>away with it here just about Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not don't get me wrong. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>that this is this is bad or anything that they've

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<v Speaker 1>done anything wrong. I'm just I just wanted. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>it's my duty as a recently diagnosed autistic person to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of point out the traits that I noticed and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, it's it's interesting how because so much you know,

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<v Speaker 1>watching TV shows, so many of the characters that we

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<v Speaker 1>find entertaining they do have neuro divergent traits. Like again

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<v Speaker 1>I've mentioned before, I'm watching Buffy, one of my favorite shows.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a character in that called Anya, who was a demon,

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<v Speaker 1>a vengeance demon for a thousand years, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>gets trapped in the body of a teenage girl and

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<v Speaker 1>she has and she basically is to grow up living

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<v Speaker 1>as a human. But she's this person who doesn't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to be human, doesn't know how how to get

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<v Speaker 1>along in the world. And it's like well, she's she's

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<v Speaker 1>literally just like an autistic person. You know, she's far

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<v Speaker 1>like it.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, yeah, I guess a lot of comedy is

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<v Speaker 2>just subverting expectations and people doing things you don't expect

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<v Speaker 2>them to do exactly, and that often ends up looking

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<v Speaker 2>like or is I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and taking things literally, like so much humor

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<v Speaker 1>just comes from taking things in the in the literal

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<v Speaker 1>way rather than yeah. But yeah, he's a very entertaining character. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he just doing that with his mouth? Or has

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<v Speaker 1>he got any teeth in or anything?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I assume they're not real.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he's got fake teeth in. But he's doing something

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<v Speaker 1>with his mouth as well asn't he?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, they all aren't they Emily? I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what the hell she's doing with.

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<v Speaker 1>Her mouth, Emily. I love what she does with her

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<v Speaker 1>mouth is constant, sort of.

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<v Speaker 2>Like half of it's kind of like lost its hinge.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just bless her. I don't think I've seen the

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<v Speaker 2>actor in anything else, and I struggle to imagine her

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<v Speaker 2>as a normal person. Yeah, I mean, so that character.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently she lives in La and she came back for this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm assuming that means she's she's busy working as

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<v Speaker 1>an actress over there. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I saw that, Yeah, that her and the

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<v Speaker 2>so the director of this also directed all of Psychoville. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and that both of them sort of fell over themselves

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<v Speaker 2>to come back and do it, and that they were like,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll move heaven and earth to make sure that we

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<v Speaker 2>can be in it. Amazing, which, you know, testament to

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<v Speaker 2>the show and how good an atmosphere it must have

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<v Speaker 2>been working on it, which is really nice to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>So many of these shows you find out were awful

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<v Speaker 2>places to work on. It's nice to get the gang

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<v Speaker 2>back together. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I listened to the official podcast for this one and

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<v Speaker 1>they were saying about how they had to get I

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<v Speaker 1>had a different set designer from Psychoville, but the person

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<v Speaker 1>had to kind of try and replicate the set from

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<v Speaker 1>ten years previously with no there were no surviving plans

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<v Speaker 1>to go on, so it was all just from watching

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<v Speaker 1>the show and trying to recreate it and.

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<v Speaker 2>Working out, well, the fridge is this high, and later

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<v Speaker 2>therefore extrapolate Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's seen.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess there is a little bit like I was

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<v Speaker 2>reading up on it and how they went into storage

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<v Speaker 2>and god knows where you store these things, but apparently

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<v Speaker 2>like the kitchen existed, that's the real kitchen, oh right,

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<v Speaker 2>And the beds were real. They just somehow were still

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<v Speaker 2>kept in storage so they could reuse them. But a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of it obviously had to be made from scratch.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. I sposed find It.

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<v Speaker 2>Wild, that TV series from probably ten or more years

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<v Speaker 2>before this still has some of it's set in storage somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>There must be so many warehouses full of literally old shit.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just they're waiting that someone might possibly want need

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<v Speaker 2>it one day, or they can sell it for a

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<v Speaker 2>charity auction.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They do a great job though of like redressing it

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<v Speaker 2>and you're not being able to tell that it's the

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<v Speaker 2>same space, but when you know, it's kind of obvious.

424
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can see it's the same like floor plan

425
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<v Speaker 1>and all that. Yeah.

426
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<v Speaker 2>Half my notes are just quotes that I really enjoy. Yeah,

427
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<v Speaker 2>my favorites is the did she make the smoothies in

428
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<v Speaker 2>a blender?

429
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<v Speaker 1>No, her name was Maurie.

430
00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:08.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we were more than flatmates. Yeah, you were

431
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<v Speaker 2>mother and son.

432
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

433
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<v Speaker 2>Well the rest of that scene questionable.

434
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So my partner Ben, who when I first started

435
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<v Speaker 1>watching Inside Number nine, he watched the first couple of

436
00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:23.160
<v Speaker 1>series with me and then he kind of said, oh,

437
00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:24.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this is for me, you can

438
00:20:24.400 --> 00:20:26.839
<v Speaker 1>carry on with it on your own. So he hadn't

439
00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:29.680
<v Speaker 1>seen this episode, but I rewatched it again just before

440
00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:33.160
<v Speaker 1>recording to keep it refreshed for myself, and he was

441
00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:35.640
<v Speaker 1>he was in the room doing bits and bobs, and

442
00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:38.720
<v Speaker 1>he kept stopping what he was doing and looking around

443
00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:43.680
<v Speaker 1>and being like, Okay, Yeah, it's one of those, isn't it.

444
00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I did say, so this is probably one of the

445
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<v Speaker 1>weirdest episodes.

446
00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have an odd relationship they do.

447
00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:55.720
<v Speaker 1>It's very worrying.

448
00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, obviously he's that we assume in the he's the

449
00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:02.720
<v Speaker 2>bad one, but Maureene is by far worse.

450
00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:06.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, she's the cause of all of this. Like, yeah,

451
00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:08.799
<v Speaker 1>I've been thinking, I don't know if I want to

452
00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:11.359
<v Speaker 1>commit to this, but I think it's how I'm feeling

453
00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:13.559
<v Speaker 1>right now. I will say that I think Maureen might

454
00:21:13.599 --> 00:21:17.039
<v Speaker 1>be my favorite Reese character. Yeah, she's great.

455
00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's the most removed from Reese as well. Yes,

456
00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:25.559
<v Speaker 2>Like it's such a character, yes, and I buy her totally.

457
00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh completely.

458
00:21:28.359 --> 00:21:30.799
<v Speaker 2>It's such a beautiful cost like down to the padded

459
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<v Speaker 2>ankles and lake.

460
00:21:31.880 --> 00:21:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, the cankles. Yeah, yeah, I love it.

461
00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:37.400
<v Speaker 2>The horrible cardigan.

462
00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Yes, one of my favorite lines is when she's you'll

463
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<v Speaker 1>love this as well, I know. But when she's she's

464
00:21:43.480 --> 00:21:46.720
<v Speaker 1>given him her recipes. You could do a carbon Rah

465
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<v Speaker 1>spaghetti hoops in salad cream with a bag of frazzles

466
00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:51.599
<v Speaker 1>mixed in. And for pudding you can add my New

467
00:21:51.680 --> 00:22:00.519
<v Speaker 1>York Cheesecake Deamily Changle and a digestive. So funny, that's.

468
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<v Speaker 2>Just what I'm having for all of time now. There's

469
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<v Speaker 2>two recipes, the New.

470
00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:08.720
<v Speaker 1>York Cheesecake Daily Triangle and a digestive. It's just so

471
00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:14.720
<v Speaker 1>sort of graciously served up, you know. Before The thing

472
00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:17.000
<v Speaker 1>is they're so weird and she is horrible to him

473
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of points, but there's also a huge amount

474
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<v Speaker 1>of love there. Oh yeah. Like it's quite touching at

475
00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:26.400
<v Speaker 1>some points as well. Yeah, and like.

476
00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Clearly how sad he is to be losing her and

477
00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:34.920
<v Speaker 2>we find out she's caught cancer. Yes, she went out

478
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<v Speaker 2>with wet hair.

479
00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:39.599
<v Speaker 1>It's a funny turn of phrase, isn't it, but.

480
00:22:39.640 --> 00:22:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really sweet, like he's worried about her, and

481
00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:44.440
<v Speaker 2>obviously she's worried about him, that he has no life.

482
00:22:44.279 --> 00:22:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Skills because she does everything for him. Yeah literally, Yeah,

483
00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:54.000
<v Speaker 1>what did you count? Best to tell? You? Don't tell anyone,

484
00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:59.680
<v Speaker 1>be prepared. I also love how you know, we're sort

485
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<v Speaker 1>of getting in this introduction to Maureen in their relationship

486
00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:05.400
<v Speaker 1>and she's she's going on about the serial killer and

487
00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:07.880
<v Speaker 1>how she should have painted a silver vagina on my face,

488
00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:12.799
<v Speaker 1>and then it just cuts the beauty, going like she

489
00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:20.119
<v Speaker 1>sounds lovely. I've got to say something.

490
00:23:20.519 --> 00:23:29.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't say she sounds like sounds horrific. You're

491
00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:30.720
<v Speaker 2>better off without her.

492
00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:38.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. We also we haven't mentioned the Soldier Boy, which

493
00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:40.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a thing, isn't it. They commit so

494
00:23:40.839 --> 00:23:41.680
<v Speaker 1>hard to love it.

495
00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:44.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you said he wanted to have the entire song.

496
00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Apparently, So we also get the black lace at the

497
00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:54.119
<v Speaker 1>end Superman and that one was in Psychophlle, wasn't it.

498
00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:56.519
<v Speaker 1>But the Soldier Boy one was new for this, wasn't it?

499
00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:59.599
<v Speaker 1>I think? But the reason being because that also has

500
00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:01.039
<v Speaker 1>a reference. It's a Superman in it.

501
00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:03.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they will dance apparently to any song that

502
00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:04.160
<v Speaker 2>has the word Superman in it.

503
00:24:04.359 --> 00:24:06.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, And so the reason for that is for

504
00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:09.960
<v Speaker 1>anyone who doesn't know, is that so the psych of

505
00:24:09.960 --> 00:24:12.759
<v Speaker 1>an episode I mentioned earlier that was based on rope

506
00:24:13.319 --> 00:24:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the Alfred Hitchcock film, which is in turn based on

507
00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:21.160
<v Speaker 1>a play for Patrick Hamilton Layers of the Onion, Yeah,

508
00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:22.920
<v Speaker 1>which is a great play and one I've always wanted

509
00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:25.240
<v Speaker 1>to direct but never got around to. But anyway, that

510
00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:27.680
<v Speaker 1>is in turn based on a real life case of

511
00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:31.640
<v Speaker 1>two students called Leopold and Loebe who were convinced that

512
00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:34.759
<v Speaker 1>they could commit the perfect murder and sort of brag

513
00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:37.799
<v Speaker 1>about it and get away with it, basically because they

514
00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:40.119
<v Speaker 1>read a lot of Nietzsche and his idea of man

515
00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and superman, and they thought they could be Superman or

516
00:24:43.039 --> 00:24:47.240
<v Speaker 1>be better than man, and they were the best. That's

517
00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:50.920
<v Speaker 1>a really rubbish explanation, but no, I didn't know that,

518
00:24:51.240 --> 00:24:52.759
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, So that was a real life thing and

519
00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:55.440
<v Speaker 1>that then inspired the play, which then inspired the Hitchcock film,

520
00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:57.480
<v Speaker 1>which is famous for being for appearing to be all

521
00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:00.440
<v Speaker 1>in one take. Yeah. And so the Superman why they

522
00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:05.240
<v Speaker 1>chose the song Superman for them to dance too. I

523
00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:06.519
<v Speaker 1>love learning new things.

524
00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:10.039
<v Speaker 2>We've have to dance and through all the routines starting

525
00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:12.079
<v Speaker 2>about in our year five Christmas parties.

526
00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:14.400
<v Speaker 1>She's cool. Yeah, oh wow.

527
00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:16.680
<v Speaker 2>They play all those horrible, cheesy songs from back then,

528
00:25:16.920 --> 00:25:20.680
<v Speaker 2>like Star Treking and all that sort of stuff. I

529
00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:24.279
<v Speaker 2>think that had an action or a repeatable Oh yeah,

530
00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:26.480
<v Speaker 2>but yes, Steve said he wanted the entire song of

531
00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Soldier Boy, but they could that. This is the most

532
00:25:28.200 --> 00:25:29.240
<v Speaker 2>they thought they could get away with.

533
00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:34.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but apparently they've released YouTube videos of themselves doing it. Yeah,

534
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:35.519
<v Speaker 1>I saw they did it.

535
00:25:35.599 --> 00:25:38.440
<v Speaker 2>I think was it at the BFI or somewhere that

536
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:41.200
<v Speaker 2>they were doing some interview on stage. I think it

537
00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:42.799
<v Speaker 2>was at the BFI or somewhere like that, with a

538
00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:45.279
<v Speaker 2>screening and answering questions. And yeah, there's a video of

539
00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:48.559
<v Speaker 2>them doing that routine in suits of many people.

540
00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:50.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh. I think that what I heard was that they

541
00:25:50.680 --> 00:25:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen them, but apparently they've also done the

542
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:56.039
<v Speaker 1>main character and in costume. Oh, just not connected to

543
00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:59.319
<v Speaker 1>the show, but just uploaded randomly. I think that's what

544
00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:04.319
<v Speaker 1>question and I got. Yeah, and yeah, you were saying

545
00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:07.839
<v Speaker 1>about they've got a strange relationship, and I feel like

546
00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:13.599
<v Speaker 1>we do have to kind of mention the toilet scene. Sorry, yeah, but.

547
00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't want to know how that ends.

548
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:20.240
<v Speaker 1>No, that was one bit Ben was watching and he

549
00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:22.799
<v Speaker 1>was like, he basically came right out and said to me,

550
00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:23.759
<v Speaker 1>are they incestuous?

551
00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:28.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, there are other lines that imply things, So, yeah, what.

552
00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:30.759
<v Speaker 1>About I was filling a hole where mum had been

553
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:31.839
<v Speaker 1>and something like that.

554
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess the toilet scene is a good shortcut

555
00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:36.960
<v Speaker 2>of they're really messed up.

556
00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:38.599
<v Speaker 1>They're really messed up. Yeah, exactly.

557
00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:41.039
<v Speaker 2>I think if this is sort of normal, what else

558
00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:41.480
<v Speaker 2>is going on?

559
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, But also I mean it's it's like it's very

560
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:48.279
<v Speaker 1>unsettling obviously, like because because David is so innocent and

561
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:50.680
<v Speaker 1>so at her mercy basically.

562
00:26:50.440 --> 00:26:52.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and she's fully taken advantage.

563
00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:54.599
<v Speaker 1>Because he doesn't understand what's going on, you know, and

564
00:26:54.599 --> 00:26:59.279
<v Speaker 1>he's just like, oh, thank You's draw No, yeah it is.

565
00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:03.839
<v Speaker 1>It's the way makes eye contact with him.

566
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:05.759
<v Speaker 2>That's one of the life Skilty just doesn't have.

567
00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately not.

568
00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:12.079
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, then we get to I don't think anything

569
00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:13.400
<v Speaker 2>else happens before she dies, does it?

570
00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:14.039
<v Speaker 1>No?

571
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:17.119
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't remember that this scene was a recreation of

572
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:21.200
<v Speaker 2>the scene from Psychoville. Apparently quite faithfully, just from a

573
00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:22.079
<v Speaker 2>different camera angle.

574
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, I don't know why, what the what

575
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:26.599
<v Speaker 1>the need was to recreate it.

576
00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I guess they needed the scene she died in to

577
00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:31.240
<v Speaker 2>make the story work.

578
00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Maybe yeah, But because because re said on the podcast

579
00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:35.720
<v Speaker 1>he said he assumed they were just going to drop

580
00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>the footage in from Psychoville unless I guess it just

581
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:42.079
<v Speaker 1>didn't look enough camera quality, Maybe yeah, it would have

582
00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:44.200
<v Speaker 1>been jarring. Maybe I'm guessing.

583
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:47.920
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, Plus they all presumably now we'd look a

584
00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:50.480
<v Speaker 2>bit younger in it and it'd be look weird, never

585
00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:53.480
<v Speaker 2>mind the camera quality true, and it would show the

586
00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:56.039
<v Speaker 2>setup as well potentially as being a bit yeah.

587
00:27:55.960 --> 00:28:01.079
<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, ye, lots of reasons then sorry, But yeah,

588
00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:02.759
<v Speaker 1>this has one of the best, one of the best

589
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:06.319
<v Speaker 1>funniest jokes in it, and I can't believe. I mean,

590
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:10.559
<v Speaker 1>surely someone's made that joke before. It's so begging to

591
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:18.240
<v Speaker 1>be done. No pun intended, John did, David's John did. Yes.

592
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:20.599
<v Speaker 2>If those that aren't aware, it's the title of the

593
00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:24.039
<v Speaker 2>episode comes from the title to the poem that David.

594
00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Reads the last two lines.

595
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:28.119
<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, Death be not Proud by John Donne

596
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:30.799
<v Speaker 2>because it is an odd title if you don't know

597
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:32.200
<v Speaker 2>where it comes from.

598
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it is, I suppose, Yeah, but yeah, I just

599
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>think that joke is so perfectly crafted and set up,

600
00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:37.759
<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

601
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Did you just make that up such a serious moment. Yeah,

602
00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:44.359
<v Speaker 2>And he's trying to be all philosophical.

603
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>And also the way she dies like she's she's fairly

604
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:49.759
<v Speaker 1>with it, and then she suddenly just slumps.

605
00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:55.079
<v Speaker 2>I must impart this grammatical information, and then that will

606
00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:55.359
<v Speaker 2>be it.

607
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:57.359
<v Speaker 1>That will be me or my deathbed, I'll be correcting

608
00:28:57.400 --> 00:29:06.559
<v Speaker 1>someone's grammar, which there did you just use? Yeah? And

609
00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:09.920
<v Speaker 1>then we've got this sort of continuing sad music after

610
00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the death over a montage of David trying to cope

611
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>on his own, with some hilarious scenes of him put

612
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:20.799
<v Speaker 1>a potato in the microwave but it doesn't.

613
00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Turn it on. Not only doesn't turn it on, thinks

614
00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 2>it only takes about three seconds.

615
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the way he just tries to bite it. Yeah,

616
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>bless him. And there blood when he's cutting himself in.

617
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:38.319
<v Speaker 1>It is poor little face he needs looking after, doesn't he.

618
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Poor sausage sasage.

619
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:47.119
<v Speaker 2>So Emily comes around. I'd forgotten that she was in

620
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:50.599
<v Speaker 2>Taigerville as well, But Yeah, so, like you said earlier,

621
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:56.319
<v Speaker 2>knocks the door, thanks for the smoothie her face, and

622
00:29:56.319 --> 00:29:57.960
<v Speaker 2>then the fact that she just knocks and he lets

623
00:29:57.960 --> 00:29:58.240
<v Speaker 2>her in.

624
00:29:58.279 --> 00:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like she doesn't react to that. Actually, no, exactly,

625
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:03.480
<v Speaker 1>That's what I think. Like she knows him and she

626
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.799
<v Speaker 1>understands him, and she's also probably on the spectrum, and

627
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>so this is it's like a beautiful sort of autistic

628
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:15.079
<v Speaker 1>love story. You know, they share special interests together and

629
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:17.799
<v Speaker 1>they can just be themselves with each other. Like, yeah,

630
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>to our eyes, it's very weird and they're very weird people,

631
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:25.759
<v Speaker 1>but to each other, they don't seem weird, and I

632
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:27.839
<v Speaker 1>just think it's very sweet. It is quite sweet.

633
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Actually, yeah, from that point of view that they probably

634
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:31.720
<v Speaker 2>just found someone else that understands them.

635
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:37.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they can just be themselves. Yeah, mostly. Yeah,

636
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:41.119
<v Speaker 1>they obviously have a shared interest in the macarb because

637
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>they both in psychable. They both work for this murder

638
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:46.279
<v Speaker 1>mystery evening company, don't they.

639
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:48.319
<v Speaker 2>But don't think that the murders are realistic enough?

640
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but yeah, they have great interactions and like we

641
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:56.680
<v Speaker 1>were saying, with her mouth, she kisses him and then

642
00:30:56.680 --> 00:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>she does this weird sort of ooh off to the

643
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:02.960
<v Speaker 1>side that was strange, so weird.

644
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:06.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the teaching her about all the Jack the

645
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Ripper stuff.

646
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I like how he his personality kind of changes

647
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:13.839
<v Speaker 1>when he gets really into his special interests and he's like,

648
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:16.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, no, no, no, whoever it was was not

649
00:31:16.519 --> 00:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>considered one of the canonical five come on and again

650
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:24.960
<v Speaker 1>that there's something this episode does a lot is the

651
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:28.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of framing something as really sad and serious but

652
00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:32.319
<v Speaker 1>actually being hilarious. Like again the montage of you need

653
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:34.359
<v Speaker 1>to move on with your life, pack away the things

654
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>that around you, of your mum, and it's just the

655
00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>ping pong ball eyes like sadly you know it's time

656
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:39.559
<v Speaker 1>for them to go.

657
00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:46.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, Like it's I don't know her most prized possessions,

658
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:51.599
<v Speaker 2>it's the probably were because you know, the little dress

659
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:56.799
<v Speaker 2>that she was christened in some family heirloom.

660
00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>No on them. I love in this scene.

661
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:05.720
<v Speaker 2>I hate a trope that's done loads of things, but

662
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.880
<v Speaker 2>the photo that changes from being happy to unhappy.

663
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:11.200
<v Speaker 1>M of Maureen. That's very funny.

664
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:13.279
<v Speaker 2>It will never not make me laugh when someone does

665
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:15.359
<v Speaker 2>that joke in anything.

666
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:17.359
<v Speaker 1>It's so funny.

667
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I know it's so stupid and silly, but Yeah.

668
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:22.279
<v Speaker 1>That's a good example of where I was saying, like,

669
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.160
<v Speaker 1>this is obviously the psychovill universe, which is a bit

670
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.440
<v Speaker 1>surreal and doesn't have to necessarily make sense.

671
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:31.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the laws of reality don't need to worry.

672
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you've got Jenna Coleman just like this very

673
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:37.039
<v Speaker 1>real woman just listening to this story of being like

674
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck.

675
00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we could do like a little picture and picture

676
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:49.440
<v Speaker 2>in the corner with her reactions to the Okay, yeah.

677
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:54.599
<v Speaker 1>Like a YouTube reaction like BT reacts to. Yeah.

678
00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:57.000
<v Speaker 2>The director did say that they like intentionally shot it

679
00:32:57.039 --> 00:32:59.319
<v Speaker 2>differently the scenes that are in the modern flat to

680
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:02.160
<v Speaker 2>the scenes that in the past, and like how his

681
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:05.000
<v Speaker 2>directing style and like how everything was a lot more

682
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:08.039
<v Speaker 2>close ups and things and the old scenes, which is

683
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:10.920
<v Speaker 2>quite cool, which I guess adds to the weirdness.

684
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Mmm. I mean it feels a lot more sort of

685
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>static and plain in the modern ones. M like the

686
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of star you would expect from that kind of

687
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:20.759
<v Speaker 1>episode of in so number nine.

688
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:25.400
<v Speaker 2>More grounded, more inverted commas boring, like yeah, just like

689
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:27.960
<v Speaker 2>and then you cut back to the fantastical world of

690
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:34.640
<v Speaker 2>weird people. Yeah, reality doesn't really matter. Yeah, Speaking of which,

691
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:41.559
<v Speaker 2>m So this would be where ghost boring turns up. Yes, well,

692
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I guess firstly, the self playing bond Tempe that must

693
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:46.960
<v Speaker 2>have been quite expensive. Presumably they don't make those like

694
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:50.480
<v Speaker 2>they have had to presumingly Jerry rig a bon tempey

695
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:52.680
<v Speaker 2>to be able to because it looks like it's actually playing.

696
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I was wondering this. They must have. They must

697
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:56.119
<v Speaker 1>have done something clever to it.

698
00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:59.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, assuming there's whir like threads in it, like fishing

699
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:01.960
<v Speaker 2>wire and stuff that having to pull keys down.

700
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:05.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it looks really cool though. Yeah. And I just

701
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:07.720
<v Speaker 1>love that touch to her character as well, that she

702
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:13.679
<v Speaker 1>used to just sit and play U bon tempee. It's

703
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:14.079
<v Speaker 1>such a.

704
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Silly word as well, I know it's a real thing.

705
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:18.079
<v Speaker 2>It sounds so her as well.

706
00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, playing it on tempe. Yeah. And also the funny

707
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:24.760
<v Speaker 1>thing is when it's playing by itself, and obviously it's

708
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:27.159
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be her ghost is playing it and she's

709
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:30.440
<v Speaker 1>playing abide with me. It's not perfectly played. It's slightly

710
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:32.599
<v Speaker 1>sort of oh I'm trying my best or not quite

711
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:40.400
<v Speaker 1>very good, you know, but the sort of sloppy I

712
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:43.599
<v Speaker 1>like that bit in the montage when she's playing and

713
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>David's turning the pages for her, and she's just playing

714
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:47.679
<v Speaker 1>one note over and over over.

715
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:51.320
<v Speaker 2>I think it was I'm sure it said Superman on

716
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:54.559
<v Speaker 2>the on the sheet music. I did it, so I'm

717
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>not sure she's playing the Superman theme music, but I

718
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:01.639
<v Speaker 2>couldn't recognize it as being the beginning of anything. No. Yeah,

719
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:04.480
<v Speaker 2>ghost Maureen turns up at this point. She's been on

720
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:05.440
<v Speaker 2>a cruise ship of the dead.

721
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:08.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, this is brilliant, isn't it? Absolutely brilliant?

722
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean so much to say, where do we start?

723
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I like the choice that they didn't make her a

724
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:21.000
<v Speaker 1>transparent yes figure, she's just lit a bit ethereally, very weirdly.

725
00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a very beautiful effect they've done. And it

726
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:27.440
<v Speaker 2>doesn't bleed into anything else. It's it's oddenly on her. Yeah,

727
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:29.920
<v Speaker 2>they've done it very nicely, very simply, but very nicely.

728
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Really well done. Then, I just I mean, you know,

729
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.119
<v Speaker 1>you're so used to ghosts traditionally being so sort of

730
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:41.679
<v Speaker 1>elegant and you and she's literally just herself. Could you

731
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:43.719
<v Speaker 1>go see the Queen of the Poe? Oh, I've done

732
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:49.840
<v Speaker 1>she takes edges. I look a bit when she's like, oh,

733
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.079
<v Speaker 1>it's totally tied. Do I and be on the veil?

734
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:54.119
<v Speaker 1>I can do this, So then just makes a draw

735
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:54.639
<v Speaker 1>fly out.

736
00:35:56.320 --> 00:36:02.199
<v Speaker 2>It's so matter of fact. Yeah, the line before do

737
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 2>you hide in the cupboard? And wood Green gets another

738
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:08.920
<v Speaker 2>show out.

739
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I didn't notice that, but yes.

740
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:14.039
<v Speaker 2>The blowerse that he got her is in Woodgreen Dog's

741
00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:16.400
<v Speaker 2>trust for thirty p How does that make me feel?

742
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:21.880
<v Speaker 1>David? Maybe pouline or buy it? Yeah?

743
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Or what's his face from cold comfort with the other

744
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:27.719
<v Speaker 2>branch of what?

745
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Yah?

746
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess that Stephen Reese just really liked the

747
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:32.559
<v Speaker 2>name Woodgreen.

748
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but yeah, I mean, obviously she's in hell mm hmm, because.

749
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:41.719
<v Speaker 2>She would be with all the best people.

750
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:44.119
<v Speaker 1>But the way she explains about oh, it's like a

751
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.239
<v Speaker 1>cruise ship. I haven't got access to what you'd call

752
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:49.320
<v Speaker 1>the upper deck, but I tell you it's much more

753
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:51.360
<v Speaker 1>fun down below.

754
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey did this cat noises for me?

755
00:36:57.719 --> 00:36:59.719
<v Speaker 1>We're going to, obviously, you know, address the fact that

756
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:02.320
<v Speaker 1>this story really is about. It's a classic trope of

757
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:06.039
<v Speaker 1>this jealousy between a partner and mother in law and

758
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:08.079
<v Speaker 1>the like, oh feels that the partner is taking the

759
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:10.719
<v Speaker 1>son away from her, and how you know, she gets

760
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:12.280
<v Speaker 1>jealous and she calls her a whore and all that

761
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:16.599
<v Speaker 1>very normal baits. Yeah, and the fact obviously that she

762
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:19.719
<v Speaker 1>essentially her goal is to for him to die so

763
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>that he can join her in eternity, and so she's

764
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:26.880
<v Speaker 1>tempting him with all his favorite serial killers that she's

765
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:34.280
<v Speaker 1>met down here exactly so well written and well performed,

766
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:36.719
<v Speaker 1>very funny.

767
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:39.679
<v Speaker 2>And then so in the seeds about like you know,

768
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:41.639
<v Speaker 2>she's not old, she thinks you think she is, Like

769
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:46.679
<v Speaker 2>why she got a second phone early Wednesday to her clark, Yeah,

770
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:47.760
<v Speaker 2>what'll happened then?

771
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:53.559
<v Speaker 1>Because obviously you think you immediately think, well, affair, yeah,

772
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:57.880
<v Speaker 1>dog standard affair. But it turns out to be something

773
00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:01.840
<v Speaker 1>a little bit different to that. Yeah, just a little bit.

774
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:04.679
<v Speaker 1>This was another moment where Ben turned round was.

775
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Like, okay, yeah, so we walk it. Yeah, well it

776
00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:12.599
<v Speaker 2>starts as you think it's an affair as well as

777
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:14.239
<v Speaker 2>you can just get the audio off the side.

778
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have a little suck on that. Yeah. Oh

779
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:21.119
<v Speaker 1>you are a big boy, aren't you. Yeah, And then

780
00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:25.239
<v Speaker 1>we round the corner and no, you describe it.

781
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:29.280
<v Speaker 2>I've got a load of grown adult people dressed as children.

782
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:33.239
<v Speaker 2>One not a changing that I think, like, yes, yeah,

783
00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:34.960
<v Speaker 2>apparently that was the other thing. They had it in

784
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:37.960
<v Speaker 2>their notebook of the whole adult babies thing, and like

785
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:40.840
<v Speaker 2>wanting to get that in an episode somewhere, not knowing

786
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:42.320
<v Speaker 2>where it would come in, and they were like, it

787
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:43.719
<v Speaker 2>works perfectly here, let's use it.

788
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, of course it does, because the weirdness

789
00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:47.039
<v Speaker 1>of Psychoville.

790
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:49.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anything they can get, you can get away with

791
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:51.840
<v Speaker 2>doing any It is.

792
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.599
<v Speaker 1>An interesting concept and I know, obviously you know it

793
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:58.679
<v Speaker 1>happens in this world. I'm sure it does. And not

794
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:01.559
<v Speaker 1>to make myself sam, but I can sort of understand

795
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:03.880
<v Speaker 1>what he means when he explains it, Like I.

796
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Didn't want to say in case I come across as

797
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.360
<v Speaker 2>a weird out. Yeah, but yeah, he puts it quite eloquently,

798
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:08.920
<v Speaker 2>he does.

799
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:10.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm I'm not going to go and do that,

800
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:19.880
<v Speaker 1>but I can understand where he's coming from. Sure you're not, well, yeah.

801
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Emily's available for hire. Yeah, Wednesday, he.

802
00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:35.039
<v Speaker 1>Said, what you knew job is? Oh yeah, well yeah,

803
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:39.239
<v Speaker 1>there was a reason I was keeping that quiet. Yeah,

804
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:41.559
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, we should say as well. This is obviously

805
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:47.199
<v Speaker 1>another returning character from Psychoville. Their boss Robin hm nice

806
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:48.639
<v Speaker 1>for another face to come back.

807
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting as an actor playing that scene.

808
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:55.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I mean he does a brilliant job, doesn't

809
00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:56.960
<v Speaker 1>he The way he switches between the dis owner of

810
00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:00.320
<v Speaker 1>the baby and then just as himself just explaining the time,

811
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>brilliant and where he's like, you know, oh, you know,

812
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to hear about your mother and all that.

813
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:06.679
<v Speaker 2>And then just starts sucking on a bottle and walks off.

814
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, please excuse me, but I will have to just

815
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:13.199
<v Speaker 1>say before we move on, I have to just do

816
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the me, not Robin me, Sally Anne, Sally and frightened

817
00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Sally and go poop.

818
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:22.920
<v Speaker 2>I've just changed it doing that again.

819
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Is the little pink bow in his hair? I love

820
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:29.639
<v Speaker 1>that he's got an entire character. Yes, and he's not

821
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:32.480
<v Speaker 1>just himself as a baby. He's this character called Sally

822
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Anne likes very interesting.

823
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you could dissect that so many ways. Who knows

824
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:40.119
<v Speaker 2>what's going on in his private life. Yeah, but this

825
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:42.800
<v Speaker 2>scene also has possibly one of it's up there with

826
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.920
<v Speaker 2>the Operation You Tree thing from Bernie Clifton and one

827
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:49.199
<v Speaker 2>of my favorite jokes of the entire thing. No, David,

828
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:55.440
<v Speaker 2>don't throw the babies out with the bathwater. How seriously

829
00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:58.320
<v Speaker 2>she says it, not in any way you think, realizing

830
00:40:58.360 --> 00:40:58.880
<v Speaker 2>what she's said.

831
00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:03.880
<v Speaker 1>It's a joke. Yeah, for me, it's the you know,

832
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:05.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about the funny things she does with her mouth.

833
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:08.239
<v Speaker 1>It's that when he calls her a whore and that

834
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:10.440
<v Speaker 1>very strange noise she makes as she goes off to

835
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:13.559
<v Speaker 1>the side. Oh, I don't remember that. So he called.

836
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:15.719
<v Speaker 1>He says, Mum was right, you are a whore, and

837
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:18.000
<v Speaker 1>she just her face starts to crumble. Then she just

838
00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:28.360
<v Speaker 1>goes off. They're so strange.

839
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:35.360
<v Speaker 2>There aren't words, how strange they are. Yeah, so she

840
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:37.719
<v Speaker 2>packs up and leaves, and then he realizes made a

841
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:43.280
<v Speaker 2>terrible mistake by not taping his favorite a documentary and upset.

842
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's the thing, isn't it. We were saying before,

843
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:50.119
<v Speaker 1>But like just somebody having somebody not having the sensitivity

844
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:54.239
<v Speaker 1>that you expect humans to have is just funny. You know.

845
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:57.519
<v Speaker 1>You just assume, oh, of course he's talking about this,

846
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:01.599
<v Speaker 1>this his partner leaving him. But no, it's about videoing

847
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:01.960
<v Speaker 1>this thing.

848
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, obviously that's more important.

849
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's very funny. But yeah, they they sort of

850
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:12.480
<v Speaker 1>decide on pretty much a whim that they're going to

851
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:13.039
<v Speaker 1>make a baby.

852
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:19.000
<v Speaker 2>This is worrying. So anyone can have a child. It's

853
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:21.559
<v Speaker 2>it's concerning that you don't have to have a license

854
00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:24.039
<v Speaker 2>for it or be vetted well or anything like that.

855
00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's not get started on that, because you

856
00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:30.119
<v Speaker 1>know the things that couples who adopt have to go through. Yeah,

857
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:31.960
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, people who are able to have

858
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>children can just pop them out by any thing. Yeah. Anyway,

859
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:41.480
<v Speaker 1>that's an entirely different conversations, an entire different conversation. I

860
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:43.840
<v Speaker 1>like how they're like, you know, I'd like to have

861
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:45.159
<v Speaker 1>a barber bery, I'd like to have a baby, and

862
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:48.440
<v Speaker 1>shall we make one? If it's just like, oh, shall

863
00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:52.159
<v Speaker 1>we just make up a tea?

864
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:59.039
<v Speaker 2>I like cake, You like cake, Let's make a cake. Yeah,

865
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:02.639
<v Speaker 2>slightly more responsibility. I like to think that obviously they

866
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:04.159
<v Speaker 2>have to go to hospital and have this baby, and

867
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:06.960
<v Speaker 2>like all the ravocations, like the social workers around their

868
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:11.519
<v Speaker 2>house every other day. The social workers are terrified of

869
00:43:11.559 --> 00:43:15.719
<v Speaker 2>this couple I mentioned looking after this child. Yes, find

870
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:18.639
<v Speaker 2>any excuse to take this child off before they kill it? Yeah,

871
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:20.159
<v Speaker 2>through utter negligence.

872
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:25.039
<v Speaker 1>And so we get another big reveal m which ties

873
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:29.840
<v Speaker 1>into Psychoville. Yep. And I just love that moment because

874
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:32.599
<v Speaker 1>again it's that classic thing. So they're having to live

875
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:35.159
<v Speaker 1>with his mother, like, oh, one condition, you've got to

876
00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:37.320
<v Speaker 1>get rid of your mother, as if she's just there

877
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:40.360
<v Speaker 1>getting in the way, but actually knows she's been fucking

878
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:42.639
<v Speaker 1>her body's been rotting in the bar.

879
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:48.360
<v Speaker 2>For years presumably at this point. And it's the way

880
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:52.159
<v Speaker 2>that Evily just doesn't seem to care, well, not doesn't care,

881
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:54.599
<v Speaker 2>but like it's just been it's normal. Yeah, oh well,

882
00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:58.000
<v Speaker 2>I guess I'll deal with it. Yeah, like he doesn't

883
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:01.519
<v Speaker 2>take the bins out. It's a fat Oh yeah, yes,

884
00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:03.719
<v Speaker 2>I've had enough. You've got to get rid of mum.

885
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, fine, that body is is something, isn't it.

886
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I forgot that you get the close ups of in

887
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:13.039
<v Speaker 2>the topperware as well.

888
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:16.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, yeah, I tried to kind of put that

889
00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:19.760
<v Speaker 1>out of my head, but yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's

890
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:22.840
<v Speaker 1>the it's the head and the sort of recognizable hair

891
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:24.199
<v Speaker 1>that amuses me.

892
00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:26.119
<v Speaker 2>I think when she's in the bar in the same costume.

893
00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:29.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The designer on the podcast was saying that they

894
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:32.480
<v Speaker 1>had many conversations about how much hair she would still

895
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:35.400
<v Speaker 1>have and this and that. Yeah, like I don't think

896
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:39.760
<v Speaker 1>realism is really that important in an episode like this, Yeah,

897
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:43.559
<v Speaker 1>probably not. Yeah. And also apparently in Psycho her when

898
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:45.440
<v Speaker 1>she'd been left in the bath, she was the other

899
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:48.159
<v Speaker 1>way around. Her head was the other end. Oh, but

900
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:49.039
<v Speaker 1>they needed.

901
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Her, oh, because he was sat on the toilet talking

902
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:50.840
<v Speaker 2>to her, I think.

903
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:53.519
<v Speaker 1>But obviously they needed her that end for the opening

904
00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:56.079
<v Speaker 1>the door, for that reveal. Yeah, so they decided that

905
00:44:56.159 --> 00:44:58.000
<v Speaker 1>at some point in the intervening years, he must have

906
00:44:58.039 --> 00:44:59.880
<v Speaker 1>got her out and turned around and put her back in.

907
00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:03.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what he did with her in the meantime,

908
00:45:03.639 --> 00:45:04.559
<v Speaker 1>but yeah.

909
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I had to take her out to pull the

910
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:07.119
<v Speaker 2>plug out because she was full of water from all

911
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:08.119
<v Speaker 2>the melted ice or something.

912
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:14.320
<v Speaker 1>True. Yeah, but yeah, it's quite a prop, isn't it. Yeah.

913
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:16.800
<v Speaker 2>They have a picture somewhere I saw of them, just

914
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:20.159
<v Speaker 2>like in between shots of them just sat around filming

915
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:22.880
<v Speaker 2>with her, just in like a director's type chair.

916
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:29.360
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's that's grim. And again another moment for

917
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Jenna Coleman of just like sorry, what David is, Just like,

918
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:39.679
<v Speaker 1>oh sorry.

919
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:40.280
<v Speaker 2>I've just noticed in the picture of her in the

920
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:42.480
<v Speaker 2>bath there's a bottle of mate next to her. Still,

921
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:44.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, she loves MATI.

922
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:49.599
<v Speaker 1>Of course there is. That's a nice easter.

923
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, he just thought it just not across

924
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:56.199
<v Speaker 2>his mind to tell her at any of this point.

925
00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:00.119
<v Speaker 1>And apparently he'd been keeping her because he thought that

926
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:01.199
<v Speaker 1>he'd be able to bring her back.

927
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:04.079
<v Speaker 2>To life yet.

928
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so they take her to the dump in

929
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:11.159
<v Speaker 1>separate pieces.

930
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:11.440
<v Speaker 2>The recycling center in wood Green.

931
00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:14.199
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, well that's what we That is a dump,

932
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:17.800
<v Speaker 1>isn't it. That's what we is? That what you call it? Well,

933
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:20.480
<v Speaker 1>we have a recycling center down the road that is

934
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:22.519
<v Speaker 1>just known as the dump, the tip.

935
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:24.000
<v Speaker 2>It's the tip, Yeah, I suppose.

936
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:28.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But I have questions because I'm thinking back to

937
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:32.480
<v Speaker 1>how Beattie and Sam know that this house is this

938
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:35.480
<v Speaker 1>flat is cheap because there was a dismembered body found

939
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:39.360
<v Speaker 1>in the bath. Yeah, so when was this found by whom?

940
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Has he heard of other people?

941
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:44.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know, doesn't quite make sense.

942
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, they've taken her and split the beca garden waist,

943
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:53.599
<v Speaker 2>general rubbish and metal which bits that they have to

944
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:55.599
<v Speaker 2>split between garden waist and general rubbish?

945
00:46:55.599 --> 00:47:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't like. Yeah, what's garden waste? I suppose she's organic? Yeah,

946
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:02.559
<v Speaker 1>general robbish could be her clothes.

947
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:08.480
<v Speaker 2>I guess a metal for a hip. Yeah, I've taking

948
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:09.159
<v Speaker 2>it seriously.

949
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

950
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:12.119
<v Speaker 2>I like to hope that they at least dumped the

951
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:14.519
<v Speaker 2>top of wear or gave it a good wash.

952
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:15.599
<v Speaker 1>I hope they got rid of it.

953
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:17.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I hope so, but who knows.

954
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:19.639
<v Speaker 1>Although knowing them, they probably just had sandwiches in it

955
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the next day. Yeah, So we get the arrival of

956
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:28.199
<v Speaker 1>baby John. Baby John, Baby John.

957
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:32.159
<v Speaker 2>Is there reading a bedtime stories for the Ripper book.

958
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's so unbrand.

959
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:36.880
<v Speaker 2>It is fun story though. Did you ever watch Whitechapel

960
00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:40.480
<v Speaker 2>back in the day, So there was a ITV series

961
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:43.440
<v Speaker 2>called Whitechapel with I want to is it Rupert Penry

962
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:44.800
<v Speaker 2>something Jones?

963
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:46.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Is that the name Jones?

964
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:50.119
<v Speaker 2>So he was playing a detective in Whitechapel. And there's

965
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:53.320
<v Speaker 2>like a Jack the Ripper copycat person like recreating the

966
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:56.199
<v Speaker 2>entire thing as closely as you can, the same locations,

967
00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:58.920
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. And so they call in a ripperologist

968
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:04.719
<v Speaker 2>who's likes someone a more normal version of David who

969
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:10.920
<v Speaker 2>is played by Steve And in that series, Steve's written

970
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Steve's characters written a book, which is that book Oh

971
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:15.000
<v Speaker 2>that is fun.

972
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Oh, that's very fun. That's nice.

973
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:22.559
<v Speaker 2>It's nice that all this is sort of a three

974
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:23.440
<v Speaker 2>series crossover.

975
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it even crosses over to V Yeah. That

976
00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:27.519
<v Speaker 1>really is beyond the veil.

977
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:31.880
<v Speaker 2>If any permission for it.

978
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:37.800
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's a good series. I recommend. Yeah. I

979
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:38.800
<v Speaker 1>think my parents watched it.

980
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:41.079
<v Speaker 2>A few of them obviously. The first one was about

981
00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:42.480
<v Speaker 2>chat the Repper, and then I think they went off

982
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:44.239
<v Speaker 2>a bit. I think that the second one might have

983
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:45.480
<v Speaker 2>been the craze, but I can't remember.

984
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:49.480
<v Speaker 1>So they have the brilliant idea of giving a newborn

985
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:51.880
<v Speaker 1>baby a birthday party.

986
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:54.280
<v Speaker 2>I suppose it's his first birthday.

987
00:48:54.159 --> 00:49:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, his zero birthday. And who did they get, of

988
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:03.400
<v Speaker 1>course mister Jolly. No.

989
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:10.039
<v Speaker 2>The fact that you recognize it immediately, just the hook

990
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:10.679
<v Speaker 2>is all you need.

991
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, well you would if you'd seen Psychoville. Yeah. Yeah.

992
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:16.800
<v Speaker 1>When I've watched this for the first time, I was like,

993
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:18.039
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck am I watching?

994
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Now? Is what we wanted to do?

995
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I will say this is one bit that again,

996
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I can forgive it now that I've seen Psychoville and

997
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I understand what's going on, But first time I watched it,

998
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't too keen on this because the fact that

999
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:35.920
<v Speaker 1>it was Reese playing an entirely separate character, so he's

1000
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:38.840
<v Speaker 1>playing two characters in the same episode. That took me

1001
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:40.840
<v Speaker 1>out of it slightly. The first time.

1002
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:44.840
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking, for what was the character does he play?

1003
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Maureen is so a person? She is? She's not. Yeah,

1004
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I was.

1005
00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Genuinely looking for a character that Reese was playing.

1006
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Yea, but yeah, so I thought that was I found

1007
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:57.880
<v Speaker 1>that tricky the first time, that when I didn't know Psychoville,

1008
00:49:57.880 --> 00:49:59.360
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, Okay, they've never done this in

1009
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Soudem I'm for and whereas obviously in League of Gentlemen

1010
00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:05.760
<v Speaker 1>and even in Psychoville they do multiple characters all the time.

1011
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you just go with it, sometimes even interacting

1012
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:08.800
<v Speaker 2>with each other.

1013
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:12.119
<v Speaker 1>So exactly. Yeah, and that's Psychoville, like it's it's sort

1014
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:14.800
<v Speaker 1>of it's more of a drama, but it's also got

1015
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:16.920
<v Speaker 1>as they I think they put it themselves. It's got

1016
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:22.280
<v Speaker 1>one foot in sketchiness. Still. Yeah, it's remotely real, yes,

1017
00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:26.639
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I mean, mister Jelly was great to see again,

1018
00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:31.800
<v Speaker 1>great character. Yeah, and Ben actually laughed at him. Yes,

1019
00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:35.079
<v Speaker 1>it was the line about you know he can do

1020
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:37.800
<v Speaker 1>balloon animals. He's like, what's his favorite animal? Monkey? Oh?

1021
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Fuck that, I can do sausage, dog, snake, or giraffe.

1022
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:47.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's a great joke, isn't it. They're just

1023
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:50.639
<v Speaker 1>they're long, thin balloons, and it's like, I could do

1024
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:54.880
<v Speaker 1>a snake, sausage, anything that doesn't require any manipulation at all.

1025
00:50:55.159 --> 00:51:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's his favorite animal as well? To in like

1026
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:07.480
<v Speaker 2>he's like a day old favorite anything.

1027
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:12.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I also love where he says, oh, what's its name?

1028
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:15.119
<v Speaker 1>And they say John is like John imagine shift.

1029
00:51:18.239 --> 00:51:20.599
<v Speaker 2>This performer that utterly hates his audience.

1030
00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:26.679
<v Speaker 1>Yea every time. Yeah, wonderful character. Yeah.

1031
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.760
<v Speaker 2>So she's going working nights, David's having to look after

1032
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:34.079
<v Speaker 2>the baby, and we get more in pop back up again,

1033
00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:42.760
<v Speaker 2>another great line of but we recycled you to rest.

1034
00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I suppose that's all any of it

1035
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:49.239
<v Speaker 1>is when you bury or whatever or cremate recycling, isn't it.

1036
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:54.840
<v Speaker 1>So it turns out that he hadn't actually fully recycled her.

1037
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:59.400
<v Speaker 1>He's kept one important piece of the puzzle, a big toe.

1038
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:05.119
<v Speaker 1>He's kept his mother's head and bricked it up in well,

1039
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:08.199
<v Speaker 1>and she says to him. You did an Edmund Kemper,

1040
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:11.880
<v Speaker 1>which I was a bit curious about, so I googled

1041
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:13.719
<v Speaker 1>Edmundkemper and went down a bit of a rabbit hole.

1042
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:17.400
<v Speaker 1>And I won't give too many details because it's quite upsetting,

1043
00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:18.760
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's a different podcast.

1044
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:21.679
<v Speaker 2>Is enough of those podcasts?

1045
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:24.079
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but it does seem he had he had a

1046
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:28.440
<v Speaker 1>thing about heads, and he hated his mother, and one

1047
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:31.679
<v Speaker 1>of his victims apparently he buried their head in the

1048
00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:35.199
<v Speaker 1>garden facing up at his mother's window because apparently she

1049
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:36.639
<v Speaker 1>always liked people to look up to her.

1050
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

1051
00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:44.920
<v Speaker 1>And then he later killed and decapitated his motherly. Yeah,

1052
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:47.679
<v Speaker 1>but the thing that all those horrible things that he's

1053
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:50.559
<v Speaker 1>done to people like obviously awful. But the thing that

1054
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:52.840
<v Speaker 1>really upset me was that apparently when he was a

1055
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:54.760
<v Speaker 1>child he killed the family cat.

1056
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh.

1057
00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:58.000
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, it's's just whenever you hear about

1058
00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:00.840
<v Speaker 1>an animal, it's like sunt outs. Some how seems worse,

1059
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:02.920
<v Speaker 1>doesn't it, because they seem so much more innocent, Not

1060
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:05.320
<v Speaker 1>that you know you should kill anyone, but yeah, there's

1061
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:06.679
<v Speaker 1>a cat that made me feel bad. I don't know

1062
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:09.480
<v Speaker 1>what that says about me. I mean, they are supposed

1063
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:13.400
<v Speaker 1>to have nine lives cats aren't they even? So I

1064
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:17.599
<v Speaker 1>don't think that helps in this one. No, sorry, tittles.

1065
00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:22.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was the one, the one circle that I

1066
00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:24.239
<v Speaker 2>mentioned that I didn't Actually I don't think i'd heard

1067
00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:24.840
<v Speaker 2>of before.

1068
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I know, yeah, yeah, I mean it was

1069
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:32.199
<v Speaker 1>interesting reading up about. But yeah, people are there are

1070
00:53:32.199 --> 00:53:34.039
<v Speaker 1>some awful people in this world.

1071
00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:37.679
<v Speaker 2>There are, But I can I can.

1072
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Say, you can understand being I can.

1073
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:42.599
<v Speaker 2>Understand David being obsessed with them. Oh, I find them

1074
00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:45.079
<v Speaker 2>fascinating to read about, as awful as it all is.

1075
00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I can understand to capitate people and.

1076
00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:50.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, when you've worked in customer service.

1077
00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:57.360
<v Speaker 1>But bless him, he says he wanted her close by

1078
00:53:57.480 --> 00:54:00.440
<v Speaker 1>so she could keep an eye on me. Mm. So

1079
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:01.639
<v Speaker 1>he's bricked her up in the wall.

1080
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:04.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do, like, I don't know if you are

1081
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:04.719
<v Speaker 2>you find of sure?

1082
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Shank not seeing it? I need to, I need to.

1083
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh I don't. I shouldn't say then, Oh, sorry, a spoiler.

1084
00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:13.159
<v Speaker 1>It's a spoiler for anyone else listening as well, if

1085
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:14.800
<v Speaker 1>they haven't seen it, well, it.

1086
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:18.039
<v Speaker 2>Is, but it's also such a well known spoiler it

1087
00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:19.159
<v Speaker 2>was considered a spoiler anymore.

1088
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:21.119
<v Speaker 1>But I won't say anymore. You sure if you know?

1089
00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:25.320
<v Speaker 1>You know? Okay, does it? Does it actually ruin it? No?

1090
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah it does. Okay, I won't say anymore.

1091
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:34.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay, sorry once again, my.

1092
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:37.320
<v Speaker 2>Lack of it is a fantastic film. Please watch it, Steven.

1093
00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I honestly, there's so many films I need.

1094
00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:42.400
<v Speaker 2>One of my favorite films. Yeah, it's a masterpiece. I

1095
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:45.199
<v Speaker 2>think it often gets ranked in like IMDb and stuff

1096
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:48.119
<v Speaker 2>has been the best film ever made. Yeah, it is

1097
00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:48.880
<v Speaker 2>an awesome film.

1098
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

1099
00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:54.159
<v Speaker 2>So she then throws out her biggest sort of lore

1100
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:58.239
<v Speaker 2>for him to join her beyond the veil that she's

1101
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:01.880
<v Speaker 2>now best friends with. Jack knows who he is. He's lovely.

1102
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:05.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that how she just calls him Jack

1103
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:09.159
<v Speaker 1>like first name terms, and he's like the Ripper and

1104
00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:10.880
<v Speaker 1>she's like, oh, it's a lat's be called that.

1105
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:23.400
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, there's certain protocols. Yeah, it's like she's had

1106
00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:25.559
<v Speaker 2>to sign out of like sign out of Hell or

1107
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:28.480
<v Speaker 2>something to come visit him. Oh, well there's a logging

1108
00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:28.960
<v Speaker 2>out book.

1109
00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:32.079
<v Speaker 1>She needs to be back by six. Yeah.

1110
00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he can't kill himself because he's got the baby. Yeah,

1111
00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:38.800
<v Speaker 2>like I would if I could. But you know responsibilities

1112
00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:39.280
<v Speaker 2>and stuff.

1113
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I generally think if the baby wasn't there, he

1114
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:45.519
<v Speaker 1>would have probably just done it. He's so he so

1115
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:47.719
<v Speaker 1>looks to his mother foot to tell him what to

1116
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:48.840
<v Speaker 1>do for everything.

1117
00:55:48.599 --> 00:55:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Especially if Emily wasn't in the picture as well. Yeah,

1118
00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:52.960
<v Speaker 2>if you're still living in that flat on his own,

1119
00:55:53.519 --> 00:55:54.800
<v Speaker 2>I think he'd made it to this point.

1120
00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:57.920
<v Speaker 1>No, but yeah, she is an evil bitch really.

1121
00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:01.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's some great lines here though. If he doesn't

1122
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:02.800
<v Speaker 2>want to kill the baby, you'll do words you're told

1123
00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:10.960
<v Speaker 2>kill the baby. Yeah, we're gonna get it boiled. But

1124
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:14.639
<v Speaker 2>very luckily Emily pops in, Yeah, and find him dangling

1125
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:18.119
<v Speaker 2>poor baby John over the I mean, how many carrots

1126
00:56:18.119 --> 00:56:19.079
<v Speaker 2>he was planning on cooking.

1127
00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:19.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure?

1128
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:22.320
<v Speaker 2>This is enormous.

1129
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:26.119
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I didn't mention as well when she when Maureen

1130
00:56:26.199 --> 00:56:27.960
<v Speaker 1>appears in that scene, and she's just like, you're gonna

1131
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:31.960
<v Speaker 1>want assault than that, damn it, like even beyond death.

1132
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:33.800
<v Speaker 1>She's commenting on his cooking.

1133
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:40.239
<v Speaker 2>All right, missus New York cheese cake and yeah, crackers.

1134
00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:51.679
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so thankfully she catches him. Yeah, pretty baby boiling,

1135
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, it's horrific.

1136
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:57.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he never sees poor little little Baby John again,

1137
00:56:59.119 --> 00:56:59.320
<v Speaker 2>and in.

1138
00:56:59.360 --> 00:57:01.960
<v Speaker 1>The voiceover he's talking to thingy. He says that he

1139
00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:05.079
<v Speaker 1>get he gets taken away, but it's not made clear

1140
00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:08.400
<v Speaker 1>whether that's what that is, whether that's prison or like

1141
00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:10.679
<v Speaker 1>a sort of mental institution or hm.

1142
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:12.159
<v Speaker 2>I would probably guess the latter.

1143
00:57:12.199 --> 00:57:16.079
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and you know, why is it after all

1144
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:18.679
<v Speaker 1>this time that he is free to come and come

1145
00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:19.239
<v Speaker 1>to the flat.

1146
00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot of this that now I'm analyzing,

1147
00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:26.480
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't add up. Yeah, but in psychovil it wouldn't

1148
00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:26.840
<v Speaker 2>need to.

1149
00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:29.840
<v Speaker 1>So well, yeah, we'll just forget it.

1150
00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've said enough stuff that you can sort of

1151
00:57:33.079 --> 00:57:36.400
<v Speaker 2>square the circle in your head if you don't pause

1152
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:38.079
<v Speaker 2>on it for more than ten seconds.

1153
00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and yeah. Then Mauran appears in the present with

1154
00:57:43.880 --> 00:57:46.079
<v Speaker 1>David and Beattie. We find out she's in the wall,

1155
00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:47.199
<v Speaker 1>she's what's been causing this.

1156
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Crack, it's time to do a bad murder, and that

1157
00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:57.480
<v Speaker 2>she's not talking to David and suddenly Beattie's like, yeah, okay,

1158
00:57:58.920 --> 00:57:59.760
<v Speaker 2>and stabbed him.

1159
00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:02.840
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Well, when they mentioned earlier that she was susceptible,

1160
00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:09.119
<v Speaker 1>apparently she's extremely susceptible. Yeah, she's literally only just met

1161
00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:10.559
<v Speaker 1>this ghost woman.

1162
00:58:11.119 --> 00:58:13.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, within twenty four hours she's murdering someone.

1163
00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Weird though, isn't it, Because obviously David had the

1164
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:20.039
<v Speaker 1>incentive of you know, or you can find out Jack

1165
00:58:20.079 --> 00:58:23.199
<v Speaker 1>the Ripper and all that, whereas Vice's got nothing. She's

1166
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:25.519
<v Speaker 1>just it's just just randomly just killed this man.

1167
00:58:26.199 --> 00:58:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and unfortunately this is when Sam turns back up again.

1168
00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, great timing.

1169
00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and cut to black. How long are you meant

1170
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:38.320
<v Speaker 2>to thinks pasted?

1171
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:39.960
<v Speaker 1>At this point, I don't know.

1172
00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:42.280
<v Speaker 2>There's not leaves on the trees anymore, so it's quite

1173
00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:45.280
<v Speaker 2>a while. Oh okay, and you think that I guess

1174
00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:49.440
<v Speaker 2>she's gotten help. They've covered it up together. But no,

1175
00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:53.320
<v Speaker 2>she has also murdered Sam. Yeah, and left him in

1176
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:53.800
<v Speaker 2>the bathtub.

1177
00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:57.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's done a coffeecat. Yeah, in a way.

1178
00:58:57.920 --> 00:59:02.000
<v Speaker 2>She did another bad murder. But she'll leave the radio

1179
00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:03.440
<v Speaker 2>on for him so he's not lonely, which is.

1180
00:59:03.559 --> 00:59:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Of course that's just so we can have a song. Yeah,

1181
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:07.320
<v Speaker 1>to finish.

1182
00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Off full circle back to Superman. Yeah, even if it

1183
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:14.320
<v Speaker 2>does end worryingly.

1184
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:17.679
<v Speaker 1>What happens at the end of Forgotten, Well, one of

1185
00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the lines is kiss oh yeah, and.

1186
00:59:21.239 --> 00:59:26.559
<v Speaker 2>See them going very lovingly too lovingly. Well, and then

1187
00:59:26.599 --> 00:59:28.079
<v Speaker 2>it cuts away.

1188
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:30.440
<v Speaker 1>What happens in the afterlife stays in the afterlife?

1189
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:33.239
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, oh yeah, and they both goes at this point, yeah,

1190
00:59:33.239 --> 00:59:34.679
<v Speaker 2>I've I've got the glowy green thing.

1191
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:40.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now, thoughts, how much had this happened? Are we

1192
00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:40.639
<v Speaker 1>meant to.

1193
00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Take it all as actually happening? Because if it weren't

1194
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:48.800
<v Speaker 2>for the bit at the end with bat killing them,

1195
00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:50.920
<v Speaker 2>I would have taken it as this is all in

1196
00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:54.599
<v Speaker 2>David's head and he's imagined all of this because he

1197
00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:57.159
<v Speaker 2>can't cope to be without his mother. I don't know,

1198
00:59:57.199 --> 00:59:59.119
<v Speaker 2>what do you think I had?

1199
00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, so you one of your catchphrases. I hadn't

1200
01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:02.079
<v Speaker 1>considered that.

1201
01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Say that that waight you do?

1202
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Actually? But yeah, no, I I had just I just

1203
01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:13.239
<v Speaker 1>assumed it was all yeah, as it is. But no,

1204
01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:14.199
<v Speaker 1>that's a good point.

1205
01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:16.800
<v Speaker 2>All of the flashback stuff could have just been in

1206
01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:17.400
<v Speaker 2>David's head.

1207
01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:19.920
<v Speaker 1>He could absolutely, yeah, And like he's.

1208
01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Wanting to get back with it, No, I guess he is.

1209
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:25.880
<v Speaker 2>But he's wanting to get back to his mother. So

1210
01:00:26.039 --> 01:00:28.400
<v Speaker 2>she comes to him, and he's thinking of ways to like,

1211
01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:30.199
<v Speaker 2>if he kills himself, maybe you will get to see

1212
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:33.000
<v Speaker 2>her again, And it could just be beat is just

1213
01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:36.239
<v Speaker 2>a bit unhinged and she's heard all this crazy stuff

1214
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:37.360
<v Speaker 2>and just kills him.

1215
01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:40.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, could well be. Yeah, that's a good point actually,

1216
01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:43.280
<v Speaker 1>because he's he's now filled her head with with all

1217
01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:46.280
<v Speaker 1>this stuff of Maureen. Maybe she's now hallucinating Maureen.

1218
01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:50.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, Marean and her never interact, so as

1219
01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:52.239
<v Speaker 2>far as we know, she doesn't see Maureen. Well no,

1220
01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:54.159
<v Speaker 2>but but apparent just David talking to her.

1221
01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:56.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I see what he means, so she doesn't necessarily

1222
01:00:56.519 --> 01:00:58.800
<v Speaker 1>even she just stabs him just for her own shits

1223
01:00:58.840 --> 01:00:59.360
<v Speaker 1>and kiggles.

1224
01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then gets caught so obviously stabs the boyfriend

1225
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:02.480
<v Speaker 2>as well.

1226
01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Maybe, or she could be she could hallucinate Maureen

1227
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:10.480
<v Speaker 1>to tell her potently Yeah yeah, but then who's David

1228
01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:15.760
<v Speaker 1>talking to when he turns. I don't think we need

1229
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:20.480
<v Speaker 1>to think over it that much. No, probably not, But yeah,

1230
01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:23.280
<v Speaker 1>there we go. I love this one so much. It's

1231
01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:24.840
<v Speaker 1>a very fun one, isn't it.

1232
01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:27.599
<v Speaker 2>It's so stupid. I just find myself earlier watching it again.

1233
01:01:27.679 --> 01:01:30.199
<v Speaker 2>This is so silly, but I love it so much.

1234
01:01:31.599 --> 01:01:34.800
<v Speaker 2>But how seriously it tries to take itself at the start. Yes,

1235
01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:37.559
<v Speaker 2>and like when you're watching it not knowing it's actually

1236
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:38.239
<v Speaker 2>quite creepy.

1237
01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Did you spot the hair?

1238
01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:41.159
<v Speaker 2>No?

1239
01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:44.599
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, no I didn't either. I was too engrossed.

1240
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:49.679
<v Speaker 2>It is on the white squares divider thing between the

1241
01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:52.840
<v Speaker 2>bedroom and the kitchen in the modern day. Oh okay,

1242
01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:55.519
<v Speaker 2>you can most easily see it at the end when

1243
01:01:55.559 --> 01:01:58.920
<v Speaker 2>they're doing their Superman dance. Okay, it's just there behind

1244
01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:00.119
<v Speaker 2>them and one of the boxes.

1245
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Fair enough, you know, I said, I watched the psych

1246
01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:07.000
<v Speaker 1>of An episode earlier today. There's a little ornament in

1247
01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:09.280
<v Speaker 1>that that she picks up at one point that is

1248
01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:12.519
<v Speaker 1>a It's a dog, not a hair, but it looks

1249
01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:14.159
<v Speaker 1>very similar to the hair. And I was like, oh

1250
01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:20.679
<v Speaker 1>that's funny. Yeah, so rating, M let you go first.

1251
01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I have actually bumped it up a notch from what

1252
01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I had earlier. Right earlier, I was ready to give

1253
01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:30.400
<v Speaker 1>it a seven. M. I think I'm going to give

1254
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:33.679
<v Speaker 1>it an eight. Yep, yeah, good choice.

1255
01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:35.599
<v Speaker 2>I think i'll probably. I think I'm going to give

1256
01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:37.239
<v Speaker 2>it an eight as well. Okay, I feel like a

1257
01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:40.239
<v Speaker 2>nine is too strong. Okay, I really want to, but

1258
01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:41.719
<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, I'm going to give it an eight

1259
01:02:41.760 --> 01:02:44.239
<v Speaker 2>as well. Okay, I think I think I'm going to

1260
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:47.320
<v Speaker 2>dock it one point for the sheer number of nonsense

1261
01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:49.239
<v Speaker 2>things that you have to accept exactly.

1262
01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:50.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is true.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like when it's like when someone falls over in

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01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:54.280
<v Speaker 2>an ice skating thing and they don't knock them loads

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<v Speaker 2>of points because the fellow over you get a cursory

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<v Speaker 2>one point knocked off. We'll carry on as if it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense. Yeah, so yeah, I'm.

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01:03:01.159 --> 01:03:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Going to do that, even though I ultimately don't care

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<v Speaker 2>that there is.

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<v Speaker 1>No exactly crazy things. But yeah, eight out of nine

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01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:08.719
<v Speaker 1>not to be sniffed at.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not at all. I'm conscious of giving out too

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01:03:11.679 --> 01:03:15.320
<v Speaker 2>many nines as well. Yeah, I don't want to cheapen them.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's like your Paul Hollywood handshake. Yeah, you don't

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01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:24.159
<v Speaker 1>give the nine out of that easily. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to do, don't we. The lovely Livy, who

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01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:30.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure many of you will be aware of from

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok and the like. She is a big fan of

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01:03:34.079 --> 01:03:36.679
<v Speaker 1>recent Steve and she's given us a couple of shouts

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<v Speaker 1>outs on the socials. It was so sweet, very very sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for that, And yeah, I would highly recommend

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<v Speaker 1>checking her out as well on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots of Task Master, Vampire Talk, Yeah, and yeah general

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<v Speaker 2>TV stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fantastic And she knows what she's talking about, yes,

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01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:57.599
<v Speaker 1>having worked in TV as well. But yeah, the other

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01:03:57.679 --> 01:04:00.239
<v Speaker 1>thing this is sort of tied in as well. At

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<v Speaker 1>the time of recording, last night was the final performance

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<v Speaker 1>of Stage Fright, and Livy was lucky enough to be

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<v Speaker 1>in attendance.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so jealous.

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01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:13.760
<v Speaker 1>The Hamma Smith Apollo. So this is so funny, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>You said to me the other day that you had

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<v Speaker 1>a prediction for the final guests they were going to have.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it was a

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<v Speaker 2>prediction or a This would be the most perfect person

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<v Speaker 2>they could have.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as in, how realistic was it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was ever going to happen,

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<v Speaker 2>but if it did, that would be the of every

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<v Speaker 2>person on the planet. This will be the best person

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<v Speaker 2>to have, yeah, which was obviously Bernie Clifton.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bernie Clifton.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Bernie Clifton. Now, all I knew about him

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<v Speaker 2>at this point is that he's eighty nine, and for

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<v Speaker 2>all we know, he could be very frail and barely

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01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:50.679
<v Speaker 2>leaves his house. Yeah, so I didn't have a clue.

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<v Speaker 2>Turns out you were right.

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<v Speaker 1>I was right, You're right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that would have been so special.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just for all three of them as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you get to eighty nine, you are used to

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<v Speaker 2>being this big comedian back in the day, have an

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<v Speaker 2>audience and blah blah blah, and then you, you know,

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01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:14.840
<v Speaker 2>you retire and you don't ever get that again, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you suddenly get the Hammersmith Apollo all loving you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that must have been incredible, amazing. Yeah, yeah, I'm

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01:05:25.039 --> 01:05:28.960
<v Speaker 1>very jealous me too, if anyone who got to witness that. However,

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<v Speaker 1>we do have a voice note from Livy which we

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<v Speaker 1>have permission to play out. So here is her explanation

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01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:37.679
<v Speaker 1>of Bernie Clifton.

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<v Speaker 3>So so much happened in that Bernie Clifton bit. So

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01:05:43.079 --> 01:05:46.400
<v Speaker 3>they basically just kind of let him run it, which

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01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:50.599
<v Speaker 3>totally understandable, but it meant it ran twenty minutes over.

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01:05:51.480 --> 01:05:54.280
<v Speaker 3>But it was really really funny. He sang, impossible, dream

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01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:59.280
<v Speaker 3>Reese gave up being in character. Steve held it together

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01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:04.159
<v Speaker 3>until about like the very last moment. He also said,

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01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:08.039
<v Speaker 3>as a family entertainer, what the fuck. He then also

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01:06:08.079 --> 01:06:11.639
<v Speaker 3>called them a pair of twats, and yeah, I realized

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01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:14.760
<v Speaker 3>it was Bernie when they started doing the charades. It

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01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:17.280
<v Speaker 3>was when they said bear and I was like, oh,

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01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:20.559
<v Speaker 3>could it be him? And then I second guessed myself.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it got to the Clifton part and they

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01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:26.599
<v Speaker 3>said Lyft and I literally yelled out, Oh, my fucking god,

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01:06:26.920 --> 01:06:30.119
<v Speaker 3>they've done it. And it was just really cute, and

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01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:31.920
<v Speaker 3>he got like a massive round of applause.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, it was really nice. It was like perfect, Oh, yeah,

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01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:39.199
<v Speaker 2>that sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome, amazing, It must have been such an experience. Yeah.

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01:06:44.599 --> 01:06:46.079
<v Speaker 2>I just sent you the clip earlier as well of

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01:06:46.119 --> 01:06:48.960
<v Speaker 2>them from the wings, like that Leon masking. I'm so

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01:06:49.039 --> 01:06:50.119
<v Speaker 2>glad we got to see at least that.

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01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and you were saying, how you know each night

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01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:55.239
<v Speaker 1>when they do it, Reese doesn't know who's coming.

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01:06:55.840 --> 01:06:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, as far as I'm aware. Yeah, that's at least

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01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:00.760
<v Speaker 2>what they've said is the case. Whether it's Jo or not,

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01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:03.360
<v Speaker 2>who knows, But from his reaction and the fact that

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01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:05.400
<v Speaker 2>he seemed to drop all of the accent and everything,

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01:07:08.920 --> 01:07:11.199
<v Speaker 2>I think he was genuinely else.

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01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:14.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, it's literally the perfect way to wrap

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01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:15.440
<v Speaker 1>it up, isn't it.

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01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:20.480
<v Speaker 2>And presumably evil have known this for days, weeks, possibly months, who.

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01:07:20.360 --> 01:07:22.559
<v Speaker 1>Knows, who knows? Yeah, because I.

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01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Did see them doing an interview on BBC Breakfast, I

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01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:27.559
<v Speaker 2>think where someone asked, like, what would your dream person

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<v Speaker 2>for the last night be? And they said a load

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<v Speaker 2>of names, but they never mentioned him, So I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>if you even knew back then.

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<v Speaker 1>Who it was going to be. Yeah, well, very happy

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01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:41.559
<v Speaker 1>that that happened. Yeah, that's lovely, amazing, And also given

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<v Speaker 1>that it was the final performance, apparently there were a

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<v Speaker 1>few other notable things that happened, So I do have

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<v Speaker 1>I do have a second voice note.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it was the final show, there was just like

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<v Speaker 3>more applause and like really nice vibes in general. The

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01:07:56.440 --> 01:08:00.480
<v Speaker 3>Chekhov's pun line got a really big cheer and Steve

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01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:03.559
<v Speaker 3>went finally and yeah, he was really happy with that.

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<v Speaker 3>In the second act, when bav Joshi's characters being all

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<v Speaker 3>method actor and stuff like that, Steve just turns around

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01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:14.719
<v Speaker 3>and says, fuck you, asshole, and I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 3>ever happened before, and Reese had to turn his back

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01:08:18.399 --> 01:08:21.279
<v Speaker 3>to the audience because he almost corpsed at that point.

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<v Speaker 3>And then right at the end when they're doing the

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01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:27.880
<v Speaker 3>Afterlife Cloud nine bit when Reese and Steve raised their

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01:08:27.880 --> 01:08:31.000
<v Speaker 3>coffee cups to each other, they actually just went up

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01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:33.760
<v Speaker 3>to each other and just hugged, and it was so cute,

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01:08:33.760 --> 01:08:37.399
<v Speaker 3>and the entire audience went h and started applauding, and

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01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:39.640
<v Speaker 3>the bowels went on for a bit longer. There was

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<v Speaker 3>also a standing ovation and rightfully.

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<v Speaker 1>So oh amazing.

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01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:46.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm so jealous. Yes, it was my birthday as well.

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01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:47.520
<v Speaker 2>I wish had gun for it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it would have been perfect, wouldn't it. Yeah.

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01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:52.119
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I've already spent a lot of money

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01:08:52.159 --> 01:08:53.680
<v Speaker 2>in this and seen it twice. I don't think I

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01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:56.000
<v Speaker 2>can quite justify trying.

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01:08:55.680 --> 01:08:56.600
<v Speaker 1>To get tickets.

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01:08:56.760 --> 01:08:58.159
<v Speaker 2>But it would have been so nice as well, because

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01:08:58.159 --> 01:09:00.720
<v Speaker 2>obviously it's going to be mainly fun at these things,

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01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:03.720
<v Speaker 2>but for the final light, it's going to be exclusively

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01:09:03.880 --> 01:09:05.039
<v Speaker 2>die hard fans.

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01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:06.159
<v Speaker 1>That really love this thing.

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01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that would have been nice, a nice sort

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<v Speaker 2>of atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely, what a nice ending for them as well. Yeah,

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01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:18.039
<v Speaker 1>to go out on a real bang. Thank you so much,

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<v Speaker 1>Livy for sharing your experience. We were there with you

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01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:26.359
<v Speaker 1>in spirit. Apparently. Death Being Not Proud was the first

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Insidem nine that she ever saw as well.

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01:09:28.800 --> 01:09:30.239
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, she did say that. Yeah, it's a good

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01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:32.600
<v Speaker 1>reason for bringing her up on today's episode.

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01:09:33.159 --> 01:09:34.199
<v Speaker 2>What an episode to start with?

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01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Well quiet? Yeah? Yeah, so this has been huge fun.

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01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:45.880
<v Speaker 1>We will be back next week for an entirely different episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look forward to that one. I'm sorry no spoilers. No,

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01:09:57.279 --> 01:09:59.640
<v Speaker 2>you guess which one it is. And in case I

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01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:01.640
<v Speaker 2>forgot do it earlier? Did you spot our hair? We'll

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01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:02.840
<v Speaker 2>point it out next week if you did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But for now, I think it's time to close

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<v Speaker 1>the door on number nine. But you never leave, do you,

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01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:12.359
<v Speaker 1>especially if your head spricks up in the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'll happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening to the Ninth Degree. If you'd like

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