Speaker 1: Gee, fist that fucking cass.
Speaker 2: A good data, have a good day.
Speaker 1: Name it's a good data, have a good day, Jimmy Deep.
Speaker 3: And we're back laps Pan Wrestling Podcast WCW Bash at
Speaker 3: the Beach nineteen ninety four. This really isn't one we
Speaker 3: can fuck around with, boss.
Speaker 2: No, it is not. We cannot fuck around with this,
Speaker 2: you fucking bitch.
Speaker 3: And if thank you, I don't even have to hit
Speaker 3: the sound bite, but I can remind you that the
Speaker 3: lapsed fan takes the stage Comedy Village Sunday, August third,
Speaker 3: high noon. Get your tickets at Comedy Village dot com
Speaker 3: and join us in the city that Never sleeps so
Speaker 3: the co chairman can issue an appropriate pounding for being
Speaker 3: a wrestling fan.
Speaker 2: Damn right, damn right, feel your pain, feel the pain
Speaker 2: and get what you deserve.
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of every last thing you just said, I
Speaker 3: believe it's time for the nineteen ninety four Bash at
Speaker 3: the Beach Death Toll.
Speaker 2: Yes, we have fifteen Wow. Fifteen, which you know, all
Speaker 2: things considered, is kind of high for a WCW show.
Speaker 2: We don't usually. It's weird how w CW just didn't
Speaker 2: have a lot of dead people on contract at the
Speaker 2: same time. But we have Hank Aaron. Sure, it's not
Speaker 2: funny to laugh, but I just think it's funny. I
Speaker 2: kept I added this person onto the list. But we
Speaker 2: have country music star Darren Norwood, referee Randy Anderson, Bobby Heenan,
Speaker 2: Gene Oakland, Brad Armstrong, Bobbin's, Eaton, Antonio and Okins, Harlance Race, Voddrs.
Speaker 3: Come on, folks, look at the man. That's exactly correct.
Speaker 2: El Angel, the Guardian, Yeah, Terrence Funk, Paul Orndorf, Kevin Sullivan,
Speaker 2: the SENSU with Sharance and Nick Bockwinkle. You said Heenan,
Speaker 2: I said Heenan. Those hurt. Yeah, Oh yeah, it's a
Speaker 2: it's a it's a it's a bad one.
Speaker 3: Those are the core memories of a Hasbro era.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean these are I mean yeah, these
Speaker 2: these are a lot of I mean, you know, even
Speaker 2: even on the w c W side, Like it's it's
Speaker 2: like these are some these are some some tough ones,
Speaker 2: you know, some real tough ones like Bobby Eaton and
Speaker 2: Race and whatever. Like it's like, you know, because so
Speaker 2: many of like so many of those guys, it's it's
Speaker 2: a little more recent a little more recent than you know,
Speaker 2: so a lot of died in the last couple of years,
Speaker 2: you know, or Funk ornd or Sullivan. Yeah, all of
Speaker 2: them have just died very very recently, you know, within
Speaker 2: like five years.
Speaker 3: So we're not going to you know, if we did
Speaker 3: this for ten years, we're not going to get to
Speaker 3: another ten with everyone left and with anyone left.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, that's it. All our heroes will
Speaker 2: be dead. It's going to get worse before it gets better.
Speaker 2: In fact, it's not going to get better. It's going
Speaker 2: to get worse.
Speaker 3: To that point. The aforementioned Darren Norwood, who provides the
Speaker 3: national anthem at Batch at the Beach nineteen ninety four,
Speaker 3: definitely felt some kind of pain. According to Wikipedia, a
Speaker 3: year after this, he decided to retire from music because
Speaker 3: of an alcohol addiction.
Speaker 2: Hey there you go.
Speaker 3: And he died in twenty fifteen, wow by causes that
Speaker 3: weren't apparently confirmed, but there was. Let's put it this way,
Speaker 3: there's no trauma, none, none, whatsoever. We start the pay
Speaker 3: per view with an image of sunrise and a voice
Speaker 3: over a man who wants us to know Boss that
Speaker 3: since the time people have dreamt.
Speaker 2: You mean you mean this guy right here, this guy.
Speaker 4: Since the beginning of time, people have dreamt of the unfathomable.
Speaker 4: The dreamers have turned into champions, and the champions too immortal. Tonight,
Speaker 4: wc W brings you the unimaginable one.
Speaker 5: Two twelve times WCW.
Speaker 4: Champion Rick Flair and five Champion Paul Hogan.
Speaker 6: When these two worlds collide, a new universe will emerge
Speaker 6: with only one ruler, one champion. Live from Orlando, Florida,
Speaker 6: the Match of the Century has w c W percents
Speaker 6: Black at the Beach.
Speaker 7: The audiences can expect just a great overall entertainment movie.
Speaker 2: Rock.
Speaker 3: Here's a question, quickly, if you have a second Rock,
Speaker 3: just quickly before you get into before you go into
Speaker 3: the premiere, what can audiences expect?
Speaker 7: I think that audiences can expect just a great overall
Speaker 7: entertaining movie.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Dwayne.
Speaker 8: Oh Man.
Speaker 3: I hope people realize that that's what we're here to do.
Speaker 3: It's press little buttons and giggle until the only people
Speaker 3: who are left are people who actually support us, something
Speaker 3: like us. Huh okay, did you plan obviously, you plan
Speaker 3: to isolate that sound of the intro of the pay
Speaker 3: per view with the voiceover guy w that guy rules anyway,
Speaker 3: Who the fuck that guy is? I need to get
Speaker 3: him on cameo. But did you plan on doing those
Speaker 3: little dil you called that in the fly?
Speaker 2: Those are perfect because it's like, I don't know why,
Speaker 2: I just the no doubt needed to happen. And then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden I was like, well, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: there's more he wait flare and Hogan bites fucking went off.
Speaker 2: Oh Cogan here.
Speaker 3: It sounded organic, it did. It didn't sound like over
Speaker 3: the top. It didn't sound like it was added afterwards.
Speaker 2: I know. It's why it hurts so bad. It's patch
Speaker 2: of the beach, bitch.
Speaker 9: Right Sunday, August thirty, a lapsed fan takes on Times
Speaker 9: Square tickets at Comedy Village dot com.
Speaker 2: There goes the neighborhood.
Speaker 9: You fucking bitch, You fucking bitch.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean I can, so we go
Speaker 3: to Land of Florida. Wow, brings us in the Match
Speaker 3: of the Century. I'm very much into Match of the Century.
Speaker 3: I'm very much into the intro.
Speaker 2: I like it. I do too, I do too. Listen
Speaker 2: they the it's it's weird because like I said before,
Speaker 2: it's it doesn't feel like an epic show, but it's
Speaker 2: certainly an epic match. Yes, you know, I kind of
Speaker 2: in my mind I want to have the epic match
Speaker 2: be the culmination of an epic show. But you know,
Speaker 2: we get what we get here. Yeah. I can imagine
Speaker 2: that Hogan didn't want an epic show in case he
Speaker 2: was afraid of being shown up.
Speaker 3: So brother, Yeah, now all right, well brother, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm really happy there was less friction than I expected
Speaker 3: and getting to the fizz inish on this whole d
Speaker 3: bay zoo. Brother, I'm glad that we got this all
Speaker 3: on paper and everyone's on the same page. Now begins
Speaker 3: the real work. Brother, How we book in the rest
Speaker 3: of the card? Yeah, Terry, I didn't really think that
Speaker 3: that had anything to do with you necessarily. We were
Speaker 3: glad to take care of that on our own.
Speaker 2: Well I'll do. I'm saying, what makes you think it
Speaker 2: doesn't have anything to do with me, dude?
Speaker 3: And how am I to interpret this, brother, in terms
Speaker 3: of what are you afraid of bringing to old Hoogan?
Speaker 2: I mean, brother, did you know I have you know,
Speaker 2: creative control?
Speaker 10: Dude?
Speaker 2: That just doesn't mean brother? On like you know my booking, dude,
Speaker 2: but it also means, you know, dude, I need to
Speaker 2: know how things are being booked.
Speaker 3: Well, we spent all this time talking about subpairer that
Speaker 3: paragraph eleven, section E. What people don't know is in
Speaker 3: the initial contract there was a final clause twenty nine
Speaker 3: and it read, mister Bill, I'm just making this up. Okay,
Speaker 3: mister boleya shout decide who wins every match in WCW
Speaker 3: Perry Good.
Speaker 2: That's that's the thing about. Here's the thing, dude. See,
Speaker 2: I don't actually have creative control. Mister Blaya has creative control, dude,
Speaker 2: So we have to kind of talk to him and
Speaker 2: see exacly what's going on. Brother, kind of what that
Speaker 2: is is, dude. So maybe if you want to kind
Speaker 2: of give you mister Blay a call, brother, we can
Speaker 2: kind of settle this thing up, dude.
Speaker 3: But we're a little too close to shit Chizo time right now. Brother,
Speaker 3: I'm already in full gear. I'm hold hill. Mister Bulay
Speaker 3: is unavailable, dude. If you want to get to mister Bolla,
Speaker 3: the one PM in the afternoon of the show is
Speaker 3: the cutoff time in the trap.
Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you something to do. I'll tell
Speaker 2: you what. See. What people don't know, brother, is that
Speaker 2: when it comes to mister Blaya, dude actually have power
Speaker 2: of attorney over mister Blaya on certain occasions. The power
Speaker 2: of the power of attorney. I have the hour of
Speaker 2: Hulk Amenia Attorney. Just imagine that people just like just
Speaker 2: like staring at him, like these people who have never.
Speaker 3: Worked with him before, and they're all asking themselves, this
Speaker 3: is the biggest guy in wrestling. Is this how it
Speaker 3: actually is in New York?
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, do we have Is he being serious
Speaker 2: or is he just kind of fucking around like Hulk
Speaker 2: Amenia Attorney? Brother, I heard you, dud. You know who
Speaker 2: I didn't hurry you brother?
Speaker 3: You know why I picture being one of those people
Speaker 3: in the meeting right who Have you ever seen the
Speaker 3: credits Dan Biningham before?
Speaker 2: Yes, I've seen the credit.
Speaker 3: Sort of like a production supervisor kind of typeus W
Speaker 3: and he, you know, played a big role in producing
Speaker 3: a lot of things here. He spoke several years ago
Speaker 3: to Conrad Thompson on his Insiders series on his ad
Speaker 3: Free Shows platform, And I think Dan is the exact
Speaker 3: kind of guy I'm talking about where WCW was like
Speaker 3: fully staffed up with people who thought they knew how
Speaker 3: to do pro wrestling until Hulk comes into the company.
Speaker 11: Talk to me a little bit about nineteen ninety five,
Speaker 11: I like WCW starts to change a little bit. In
Speaker 11: ninety four, Whole Cogan comes in. They have their most
Speaker 11: successful pay per view of all time with Rick Flair
Speaker 11: and hul Cogan at Bashed at the Beach. But in
Speaker 11: ninety five you're leaving WCW.
Speaker 12: What happened, Well, Terry Bolayon is what happened.
Speaker 13: Oh, when he came in, he and I did not
Speaker 13: hit it off, let's say. And to me, he's a
Speaker 13: narciss's personality to disordered sociopath and a terrible person to
Speaker 13: have to be around. He's a shoot heel as far
Speaker 13: as I'm concerned, and he made me not want to
Speaker 13: be in wrestling anymore.
Speaker 12: Didn't get along.
Speaker 13: With Terry, and I really really really didn't get along
Speaker 13: with Terry.
Speaker 12: So, wow, my experience was very bad.
Speaker 2: Why didn't you guys get along? What was this? Is
Speaker 2: all news to me?
Speaker 11: So forgive me for being off.
Speaker 13: I know, and I probably shouldn't have cafe this Now
Speaker 13: that I'm on your show telling their story.
Speaker 12: I'm gonna have all tail on the least on me.
Speaker 11: No, I don't know about that. And by the way,
Speaker 11: we can edit out whatever you don't want to air.
Speaker 13: But I know I said it, I stand by it.
Speaker 13: But he just came in. I mean, my first interaction
Speaker 13: with him, we were shooting promos at center stage, and
Speaker 13: it was a two camera shoot and I had a
Speaker 13: wide shot.
Speaker 3: It was him and I.
Speaker 13: Think Jimmy Hart was his manager, and Jim Ross was
Speaker 13: probably an interviewing him, and so I had the three
Speaker 13: shot of them and they jim goes to Jimmy to
Speaker 13: do his promo, and I cut to a shot at
Speaker 13: Jimmy and then all of a sudden, somebody screaming cut, cut, cut,
Speaker 13: and then Hawk into the camera.
Speaker 12: He said, you had never take the camera off the
Speaker 12: Hulkster and you're never too close to see the pythons.
Speaker 13: So after that, I used a one camera shoot, and
Speaker 13: you know, uh, and that was and that just that's
Speaker 13: how it was. And so it was not a it
Speaker 13: was not a cordial working relationship, and uh, it was.
Speaker 2: His way or the highway.
Speaker 13: And really what happened was he was tired of being
Speaker 13: the babyface. Uh And he wanted to be a heel,
Speaker 13: but he didn't want babyfaces to get over on him,
Speaker 13: so everybody else had to be baby had to be heels,
Speaker 13: So it.
Speaker 12: Became just a heel fast.
Speaker 13: And if you do not have the dramatic arc of
Speaker 13: the babyface and the heel, the heel cheating to beat
Speaker 13: the baby face over and over again until it's really
Speaker 13: important and the baby face still didn't cheat, and a
Speaker 13: will to overcome the heel, then that's the morality play.
Speaker 13: And if you don't have a morality play, to me,
Speaker 13: you don't have anything in the sport, because you've got
Speaker 13: to tell the sport. The story is everything. The story
Speaker 13: is what gives the sport its power. So I didn't
Speaker 13: think the story was uh was worth it? So uh
Speaker 13: and and I'd had enough, so I moved on.
Speaker 3: He also said that there was a meeting where they
Speaker 3: were discussing when Hogan would close line Sherry and Dan
Speaker 3: bid them, who admittedly couldn't keep his mouth shut, pipes
Speaker 3: up and says, was he turning heel attacking a woman?
Speaker 3: I don't know, he's turning heel and everyone looks at
Speaker 3: him and blows him off, and then Eric calls him
Speaker 3: into his office afterwards, and, accord to Dan, Biden says,
Speaker 3: this is Dan, you leave your morals at the door.
Speaker 2: Yes here, it doesn't sip. What do you think this is?
Speaker 2: What do you think this fucking is?
Speaker 3: We're signing up the hulkster pal onwards and upwards.
Speaker 2: He's a son of a band.
Speaker 3: Yes, Nashville's finest Hogan just tossing people off payroll by hooker,
Speaker 3: by crook. They're fucking jumping off the boat.
Speaker 2: I thought that was just so.
Speaker 3: Great that some guys who could give a fuck about
Speaker 3: who thinks he is exactly tremendous. He went on to
Speaker 3: work for the PGA Tour in television production.
Speaker 2: To Dan by good, look look at him, legitimate good
Speaker 2: for him.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And he also hit Eric with that in
Speaker 3: his interview. He's like Eric had said, PG is never
Speaker 3: going to hire you, you know, because you're wrestling.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love I love how Eric is like,
Speaker 2: you know, here here is the uh, the executive producer
Speaker 2: or executive VP of the fucking of w c W.
Speaker 2: And he's telling somebody else that you're not going to
Speaker 2: find another job because you worked in wrestling.
Speaker 3: Now, I don't remember saying that I don't call I
Speaker 3: don't call it sound like some one thing I would say,
Speaker 3: but even if I said.
Speaker 2: It, et cetera.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But you know, we always hear about people in
Speaker 3: the business belly aching about how no one in polite
Speaker 3: society or in broader entertainment and advertising take wrestling seriously,
Speaker 3: and how they kind of, you know, consider any experience
Speaker 3: in the wrestling business something to be almost ashamed of,
Speaker 3: to hide from your resume like a scarlet letter of
Speaker 3: sorts in the entertainment business. And I'm thinking, yeah, you
Speaker 3: know who says who says that the most to a wrestler,
Speaker 3: fellow wrestlers and their buying exactly right, those are the
Speaker 3: ones who want wrestlers to think exactly that no one
Speaker 3: takes them seriously.
Speaker 2: Ah. That amazing. Yep.
Speaker 3: So they're showing images in the crowd here of Hulk
Speaker 3: Hogan signs and shirts, and they're showing a Hogan posing
Speaker 3: and they're showing the ticker tape parade with the w
Speaker 3: W number one sign, and I'm just it immediately hit
Speaker 3: me when the show open manned a, Vince served this
Speaker 3: one up to them by not doing this.
Speaker 12: Man.
Speaker 2: Yep, they absolutely did. I mean this could have been They.
Speaker 3: Would have so much less if he had done it
Speaker 3: just once on pay per view.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, just one time. It's all he had to
Speaker 2: do one time.
Speaker 3: They still would have done it, WCW it just it
Speaker 3: wouldn't have had this much pomp and circumstance to it.
Speaker 2: No, because you know again, yeah, they would have done
Speaker 2: it because Hogan. Because it would have been done only
Speaker 2: once on pay per view. Yeah, you know, like would
Speaker 2: they would not have been done again. And if he'd
Speaker 2: just done it, you know, it would have been been
Speaker 2: so much better. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ww re match would have been good as far
Speaker 3: as like compared to what else they could offer the
Speaker 3: general public, but it would not have had this kind
Speaker 3: of pop and sizzle to it. So they have Hulk
Speaker 3: ripping his shirt in Flair's face, people going on, so
Speaker 3: we shoot the Orlando Arena and Boss. It's definitely as
Speaker 3: we kind of forecast it in the beginning parts of
Speaker 3: this batch of the Beach nineteen ninety four coverage significant
Speaker 3: that this is taking place in Orlando, and it's always
Speaker 3: it's always played up, as you know, at least in
Speaker 3: the book accounts of how Hogan and w stub became together.
Speaker 3: From Flair to Hogan himself, Terry Bischoff that it was
Speaker 3: just sort of like this, this happy accident, that they
Speaker 3: were both crossing each other's paths on the set of
Speaker 3: Thunder and Paradise in the worldwide tapings. But in fact
Speaker 3: Orlando is very much plugged into this whole line. Orlando
Speaker 3: brought them together in a way as well. This is
Speaker 3: from The Orlando Sentinel, April seventh, nineteen ninety four. It's
Speaker 3: about to happen. Hogan's comments designed to Okay, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: picture this as the lead pro wrestler, Hulk Hogan muscles
Speaker 3: bulging peers into the camera and says Orlando is safe
Speaker 3: and fun for tourists.
Speaker 2: Mmmm, It's about to happen.
Speaker 3: Hogan's comments designed to ease fears about tourism crime. Tourist
Speaker 3: crime rather are now do they mean crime committed by
Speaker 3: tourists or do they mean crime committed against tourists?
Speaker 2: Are maybe a little bit of both.
Speaker 3: Are the basis of a deel nearly struck between Orlando
Speaker 3: and Orange County and producers of the indepenit TV series
Speaker 3: Thunder and Paradise, which stars Hogan. In return for Hogan's assurances,
Speaker 3: plus filming the show in Central Florida. Orlando and Orange
Speaker 3: officials have a greed and principle to give the producers
Speaker 3: two hundred and ten thousand dollars in cash and in
Speaker 3: kind services. Big fucking combs up for the deal making.
Speaker 3: Burke Schwartz Pone and Productions, Inc. Of Los Angeles Has
Speaker 3: sold twenty one hour episodes of Thunder and Paradise to
Speaker 3: stations covering ninety percent of the nation. It intends to
Speaker 3: spend the public money on filming costs, said co producer
Speaker 3: Kevin Beggs, and definitely not to go right straight into
Speaker 3: their pockets. Government representatives such as Orlando mayor Glenda Hood
Speaker 3: praise the agreement is a great advertising and economic development package.
Speaker 3: If it's successful, it would be a wonderful marketing opportunity,
Speaker 3: had said with a big thumbs up. Orlando County Commissioner
Speaker 3: Bob Freeman, whose district includes the Attractions and International Drive
Speaker 3: Tourist Corridor where likes the financial spin offs promised by
Speaker 3: Begs and his associates. They say the show will inject
Speaker 3: at least eight million dollars, among other things, directly into
Speaker 3: Central Florida's economy roller, ranging from payroll for lighting grips
Speaker 3: and drivers, to renting apartments for actors, to purchasing supplies,
Speaker 3: lumber catering. Where do you get your paper clips?
Speaker 2: Eckered? That kind of thing?
Speaker 3: Bigs you know we're bringing we're bringing this production of Florida.
Speaker 3: We got We looked around and ask ourselves, where were we
Speaker 3: going to get our paper clips?
Speaker 2: You know this probably we came down here. We didn't
Speaker 2: you know, we didn't know. We have to find places
Speaker 2: to get all of our tools and things. So we
Speaker 2: thought we want local vendors.
Speaker 3: We don't want to be traveling all over the place
Speaker 3: to get our paper clay apps. Where we where are
Speaker 3: we going to get a paper clips in our landow?
Speaker 2: Fuck Eckert. I got somebody right over here.
Speaker 3: They can take care of that for As a matter
Speaker 3: of fact, for two hundred and eight ten thousand dollars,
Speaker 3: his company, he said, has hired eighty percent of its
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty person production crew from Central Florida.
Speaker 3: The jobs, he said, frequently pay at least twenty dollars
Speaker 3: an hour. The company also has pledged to buy ninety
Speaker 3: percent of its supplies from Central Florida.
Speaker 2: Vendors.
Speaker 3: They have been filming episodes at a cost of one hundred
Speaker 3: thousand dollars a day since January all over central Florida.
Speaker 3: The pilot, however, was done last year on Florida's West coast,
Speaker 3: at least partly because Hogan lives in clear Water. The
Speaker 3: Tampa Saint Peter exactly what I gotta Why is that
Speaker 3: going to be in there?
Speaker 2: Dude? Brother address to do? Yeah, what do you want?
Speaker 2: My drug? My drug mule lives brother.
Speaker 3: You wet that exact address too, I get, I would
Speaker 3: guess a Tampa Saint Bulgaria then tried to land the
Speaker 3: show full time. That's when Orlando and Orange County started
Speaker 3: negotiations brought it on, but the Economic Development Commissioner of
Speaker 3: Mid Florida taxpayer dollars in the presence of Studios Universal
Speaker 3: and Walt Disney World brought Thunder and Paradise to Orlando.
Speaker 3: Begs said they Central Florida are very film friendly. He
Speaker 3: said one of the keys to Ardlando in Orange County
Speaker 3: was getting Hogan to speak highly of the city beautiful, which,
Speaker 3: like the rest of the state, has been hurt by
Speaker 3: headlines detailing cribs against tourists anything we can do to
Speaker 3: improve our image. I'm ready for Freeman said. The show,
Speaker 3: set in Florida, but not in any particular city, likely
Speaker 3: will featured episode where Hogan and a youngster decide to
Speaker 3: visit Disney World in Orlando.
Speaker 2: Begs, Oh my god, that's one such a fucking Hogan thing, Ah,
Speaker 2: isn't it?
Speaker 3: So the vomit here's watching this series and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, it's just for no reason, they go to
Speaker 3: Disney World. You know, it's like forced in the middle.
Speaker 3: That's when Hogan will mention the ara. That's when Hogan
Speaker 3: will mention the area is safe. Hulk Hogan's testimonies are
Speaker 3: for sale, ladies and gentlemen. His representations are for sale.
Speaker 3: If you want something to be true, if you pay
Speaker 3: Hulk Hogan, he will say it is true. And I
Speaker 3: think that tells us so much. Disney's renting studio space
Speaker 3: to Begg's company. Promoting Central Florida through a television show
Speaker 3: is not uncommon. More and more products are making their
Speaker 3: way into movies and TV as a way to advertise,
Speaker 3: and just as Miami Vice and The Big Easy in
Speaker 3: New Orleans gave nationwide audiences a glamorous vision of those
Speaker 3: places Orlando officials help Hogan show will make central Florida
Speaker 3: look good to the nation. Hogan also will make one
Speaker 3: public appearance, the type of dates and determined on behalf
Speaker 3: of the city in county. With those inducements, the Orlando
Speaker 3: City Council has agreed to pay fifty thousand dollars cash,
Speaker 3: then give up to thirty thousand dollars worth of services,
Speaker 3: which include free use of city land and an airboat.
Speaker 3: The County Commission has tentatively approved paying one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: This is just six figure, five figure, all these little
Speaker 3: bits of money. Paying a hundred thousand cash and offering
Speaker 3: up to thirty thousand worth of nkind services such as
Speaker 3: use of Sheriff's office helicopters. Commissioners may vote on the
Speaker 3: pros and next week. With Freemen predicting passage, we're trying
Speaker 3: to generate on a local level, some energy, some excitement, whatever,
Speaker 3: to get some television production here, he said. Fans of
Speaker 3: Under the Cinemat know how that goes?
Speaker 2: Man, Oh, you're damn right. It's like that's dangerous.
Speaker 3: But why is it dangerous telling people what you've learned
Speaker 3: all these years cinematic well.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 3: It, big thumbs up to increasing the palms of locals.
Speaker 2: If if, if, because I'll tell you what number one.
Speaker 2: Whatever you think is gonna happen, it ain't gonna happen
Speaker 2: as far as like, okay, creating energy in the city,
Speaker 2: creating energy in the city, creating you know, you know,
Speaker 2: making it seem like everything's gonna run smoothly. No no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: it's not gonna run smoothly. And even if it does,
Speaker 2: the beginning, now this is this is the truth. Here
Speaker 2: does the beginning You're gonna wear out your welcome so
Speaker 2: fucking fast, so fucking fast, because as soon as the
Speaker 2: traffic starts building up, there's trouble, so.
Speaker 3: Does there's one inconvenience, too much noise Exactly as soon
Speaker 3: as someone who's connected in the city can't get access
Speaker 3: to the set to take pictures.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how much you've paid off the people
Speaker 2: whose businesses you are a fan, they always could have
Speaker 2: earned more, right, It's always a pity. You know, how
Speaker 2: am I supposed to know that I wasn't gonna get
Speaker 2: even you know, a big flooded you know, all week long?
Speaker 2: Who knows I could have gotten. I could have gotten
Speaker 2: three million people coming in my little bit shop here that.
Speaker 3: I got a bitch shop instead of Hogan's beach shop.
Speaker 2: So give the bit shop.
Speaker 3: I know how much we're getting, mister Maya, but how
Speaker 3: much are we giving. Put a price on that and
Speaker 3: make sure it's higher than what we're getting.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you, if we're being completely honest, you
Speaker 2: we better be getting more than a given.
Speaker 3: So these must be snowbirds here and run these businesses.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, my brother's a Boston coffee here.
Speaker 2: You go, all right, and I'll tell you this, all right,
Speaker 2: they have plenty of plenty of things going on up there, right.
Speaker 2: They always get more money, and I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 2: right now, I'm gonna get more money.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question. Do any of these
Speaker 3: film sets need details? Because my brother can come down here,
Speaker 3: no problem, absolutely, I'll tell you he'll take a leave.
Speaker 3: I brought my cousin, Yeah, my second cousin and my
Speaker 3: half sister. They're all Boston colls, and they can take
Speaker 3: a leave. And they can stand here and look at
Speaker 3: a hole and make six figures to do it.
Speaker 2: Listen, they look great when they put their arm in
Speaker 2: the arm when they fold their arms, they look absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 2: You believe, you.
Speaker 3: Believe they're working, You believe that, believe theyre worth six figures,
Speaker 3: all right, So fucking you want me to be happy
Speaker 3: with this production? Make me happy with this production. Such
Speaker 3: good stuff and under the cinemat you know jaws, I mean,
Speaker 3: fuck yes, you don't get it by now. I don't
Speaker 3: know what to tell you. Also on Patreon, fucking the
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Speaker 3: with Mama Sorrow will go down in history.
Speaker 2: I don't care what.
Speaker 3: Anyone says things she says when when Adam Page attacks
Speaker 3: with the fork and many other things had happened. The
Speaker 3: fact that she thought ocado was Polish.
Speaker 2: To me, that's just that's the That's the fucking icing
Speaker 2: on the cake right there. That is the cake, the ice,
Speaker 2: and the fucking cherry. Is the fact that she thought
Speaker 2: that Okada must be Polish, and even to the point
Speaker 2: where she saw him and was convinced that he was.
Speaker 2: She wasn't coming off that at all. Because she heard kazuchika,
Speaker 2: she thought it was kazuko or like some kind of
Speaker 2: right with the cz in it, you know, right, and
Speaker 2: we went we did not We did not let her
Speaker 2: down easy. No, it's it's it's you will never hear
Speaker 2: anything like that like this, as far as like audio
Speaker 2: of people watching wrestling, it's it's it's on a whole
Speaker 2: other level. Not a shame for a second to come
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Speaker 2: we're going to experiment with pay to play, this was
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Speaker 2: lamps absolutely so to the Areta b WW logo with
Speaker 2: the arm bicep pose and the wave which I love
Speaker 2: in the graphic. They did a great job with this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I like that one a lot. I don't remember how
Speaker 2: long do they keep that long? For ninety five right
Speaker 2: the ninety six it was gone, I think.
Speaker 3: And ninety six when they started doing like that shark
Speaker 3: underneath the black and orange bash at the Beach on
Speaker 3: the coast with the right, Yeah, like the shimmering water.
Speaker 3: I always thought Bashed the Beach did a terrific job
Speaker 3: of making you feel like summer, which wc wwf al
Speaker 3: the summer slam didn't make you feel it.
Speaker 2: It's hot, it's heat.
Speaker 3: They they WCW really made you feel the seasonal stuff
Speaker 3: because well exactly, well they they also it was theme.
Speaker 3: It was the theme of it all. Like to think
Speaker 3: about it, they had they had all seasons for like
Speaker 3: a winter show, because they had Spring Stampede, they had
Speaker 3: Bash of the Beach, they had Halloween Havoc, Fall Brawl,
Speaker 3: you know, fall Brawl exactly, like they put it right.
Speaker 2: In the name. They didn't funk around exactly. And also
Speaker 2: the thing about Summer Slam, and while it does definitely
Speaker 2: evoke summer, it's the end of the summer. Yes, it's
Speaker 2: always like, Okay, Summer's coming to an end, so we're
Speaker 2: gonna get Summer Slam. Whereas Basch of the Beach happened
Speaker 2: in June, you know, and most of the time happened
Speaker 2: in June, I believe, right, it didn't Yeah yeah, July July,
Speaker 2: Yeah did happened July two even so like June and July,
Speaker 2: that's like that's like prime summer it right, And that's
Speaker 2: the thing you made it a great point that I
Speaker 2: ever think about when I think of Summer Slam, I think,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I got to go back to school soon.
Speaker 2: This sucks, you know, Like Summer Slam means it's over.
Speaker 2: No matter how many times they've done Summer Slam, which
Speaker 2: is several times on the first weekend in August, still
Speaker 2: you feel that way about Summer Slam. The fact that,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want them to change the month,
Speaker 2: but the fact that it happens in August. August as
Speaker 2: a month, right, you know, that's it. That's when it's ever.
Speaker 3: When they did it on July thirtieth in Nashville, were
Speaker 3: you happy then?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I was miserable, exactly. Fucking Keep it in August. Just
Speaker 3: because that's the downside doesn't mean you switch it up.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, you know, you look forward to the
Speaker 2: fact that because it's one of those weird things where
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, I can't wait for Summer Slam, but
Speaker 2: I also don't want summer to end, but I also
Speaker 2: can't wait for Summer Slam. Yeah, you know, like that's
Speaker 2: the fact. You go back and forth with that all
Speaker 2: the time. That used to happen all the time, especially
Speaker 2: when Summer Slam would happen like the I forget the
Speaker 2: if it was ninety three or ninety four, that was
Speaker 2: the last Summer Slam happen on a Monday. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: Summerson was also a Monday thing, which is so fucking weird,
Speaker 2: so weird to think that's so fine when you were
Speaker 2: a school age it's totally except that it often happened
Speaker 2: the day before, Like it would happened the Monday, and
Speaker 2: I'd have school on Tuesday's serious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh that's no. I never had that problem.
Speaker 2: That's awful.
Speaker 3: Yeah I had that problem like like two times. I
Speaker 3: always forget problem. So many parts of the country and
Speaker 3: even other states went to school before the end of August.
Speaker 3: It was always after September to everyone I knew.
Speaker 2: But yeah, really, yeah, no, we always started. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: started usually the last week and like the weekend. We
Speaker 2: started the week before Labor Day.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a joke. At least let people have August.
Speaker 3: The fuck's wrong with you?
Speaker 2: Nope? August Nope, nope.
Speaker 3: That's one of the things I meant about wrestling. For
Speaker 3: all the war memories I have, I never also forgot
Speaker 3: the pit in my stomach when I realized how close
Speaker 3: to bedtime, like, there was nothing I could do after
Speaker 3: the show was over, I had to go straight to bed,
Speaker 3: and that that sucks, You know, that does suck.
Speaker 2: So all I want to do is go straight to
Speaker 2: right during the show exactly. Again, I'm.
Speaker 3: So don't don't come fucking around and acting like we're
Speaker 3: not as advertised when we say on the live calls
Speaker 3: on patreon dot com slash the lapsed fan that we
Speaker 3: watch modern WWE, so you don't have to because we
Speaker 3: fucking you can hear it in our voice.
Speaker 2: Evolution live call. Is there for you.
Speaker 3: The Saturday nights Man event with Goldberg's retirement is there
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 2: I love, by the way, I do love that he's pissed.
Speaker 3: Oh altimately, Oh my god, bless this guy for having
Speaker 3: the balls to be cranky about WWE publicly.
Speaker 2: It is. It is just so goddamn funny what we need.
Speaker 2: I mean that he can't. He just cannot get over
Speaker 2: the fact like that something you know is he's such
Speaker 2: a little bit exactly, and that's what we know. More like,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm thinking myself, what do you what do
Speaker 2: you expect to happen? Like he says like he he
Speaker 2: didn't like and not only did he not like the
Speaker 2: fact that he was cut off, which I mean, dude,
Speaker 2: who cares, Honestly, it's it's right, like what the fuck?
Speaker 2: But also the fact that his match didn't go as
Speaker 2: well as he had hoped, Like, what did he fucking expect?
Speaker 2: Does he not know that? He is just like completely
Speaker 2: just not it's not appropriate for him to be in
Speaker 2: the ring.
Speaker 3: And Guntherar did a fucking marvelous job exactly.
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Speaker 3: Now for him, it's all like for him, it's all
Speaker 3: He's one of those guys that isn't happy unless he
Speaker 3: feels like he forced WW to do something they didn't
Speaker 3: want to do on a power play. Hogan's that way too,
Speaker 3: like they don't feel like they actually won unless they
Speaker 3: got a concession. I mean, he's getting huge money, but
Speaker 3: to him, like I bet he's got a chip on
Speaker 3: his shoulder about being a WCW guy and all the
Speaker 3: bullshit with Triple H and Triple H making the calls
Speaker 3: probably somewhere sunk in the back of his mind. So
Speaker 3: he's going to interpret these little things that they would
Speaker 3: go out of their way to make special for a
Speaker 3: Rick Flair or an Undertaker that they deprived him of,
Speaker 3: including much in the way of like notice. According to him,
Speaker 3: they started talking in November about the final match, and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden it comes together and fucking warp speed.
Speaker 3: After they shoot the Bad Blood angle, it comes together
Speaker 3: in warp speed because you know, frankly, and he wouldn't
Speaker 3: say this, but frankly, they just needed to fuck with
Speaker 3: aw and this was something they had that they could
Speaker 3: deploy on this particular night and get Atlanta put together.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean that's Wwewwe is a place that
Speaker 3: first and foremost makes sure that after they're done with you, you
Speaker 3: look like a bitch for complaining. Like, yes, they get
Speaker 3: it to Phil, They'll do it to anybody who thinks
Speaker 3: that they can match wits in the court of public opinion.
Speaker 3: After they're out. You cannot because everybody, everybody basically thinks
Speaker 3: you are what we just talked about, less than a
Speaker 3: real star, less than a real celebrity, right, And you
Speaker 3: have absolutely no say in how you ought to be treated,
Speaker 3: and you ought to be absolutely grateful for whatever they
Speaker 3: decide is an appropriate framing and treatment of what you're
Speaker 3: gonna do next. There is no negotiation here. There is
Speaker 3: only appreciation or you know, what a bitch and it's
Speaker 3: it's it's been marvelous to watch that it happen again,
Speaker 3: because so few guys, especially the newer crop, are able
Speaker 3: to come out and say they'll they'll send pass aggressive
Speaker 3: tweets and stuff, and even then the hordes descend. But
Speaker 3: Goldberg's a guy who you know, has gotten a lot
Speaker 3: of money over the course of his life by being
Speaker 3: publicly cranky about things. It's worked for him, doesn't work
Speaker 3: for everybody.
Speaker 2: Yes, because his.
Speaker 3: Phone will ring, not everybody's phone will ring after they
Speaker 3: talk shit, you know, tremendous. I hope everybody when they
Speaker 3: leave that company talks big shit about everything, because that's
Speaker 3: the only way we get the truth of these people.
Speaker 2: He's such a he just is so like I just
Speaker 2: love I mean, because the bottom line is it wouldn't matter.
Speaker 2: That's the thing that I love is that it wouldn't matter.
Speaker 2: It could have been the greatest fucking it could have
Speaker 2: main invaded SummerSlam. He would have fucking found something about it.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what we all, That's why we were
Speaker 3: all excited. Is Hee punk back, you know, because here
Speaker 3: he's he's in again, and he's gonna call he's gonna
Speaker 3: stir the shit up, you know. But he made a
Speaker 3: bet of WrestleMania, so he's all good, Yeah, okay, right, pathetic.
Speaker 3: He'll he'll come around, He'll find that he uh come
Speaker 3: next WrestleMania. He'll be He'll be out there telling media like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, they tell me that that was a real WrestleMania.
Speaker 3: And I argued for that, and I convinced myself of that.
Speaker 3: But I'm staring down the barrel of forty four or whatever,
Speaker 3: and I'm starting to think that that that really wasn't
Speaker 3: what it was made up to.
Speaker 2: It chucked up to me, Well, now you know what,
Speaker 2: Now he's going to win the main event of WrestleMania.
Speaker 2: Of course, what he wants is to win the Royal
Speaker 2: Rumble and win the real Belt from like a Cody
Speaker 2: at WrestleMania in the last match of the night. That's
Speaker 2: all he means. That's all he was deprived of. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's no difference between what he did last year on
Speaker 2: Night one and what he did with Undertaker in New Jersey.
Speaker 2: It was just if it was a two night or
Speaker 2: that would have been the Night one main event as well,
Speaker 2: in fact, the Undertaker match was much bigger, I think
Speaker 2: than the rains roll on Triple Threat. Yeah, break he
Speaker 2: knows that.
Speaker 3: And the fact that he won't say it is it's
Speaker 3: kind of like, okay, well we lost Phil, you know,
Speaker 3: we lost what was so much fun about film?
Speaker 2: Yep, Yep. Listen, he's a company man now, folks, All right, listen, listen,
Speaker 2: just keep waiting. Here's the because because you know, here's
Speaker 2: the beauty of it. Okay, because because in this position,
Speaker 2: Triple H is not afraid to lick an asshole. Okay,
Speaker 2: he is fine getting his tongue way up there to
Speaker 2: clean out that fucking brown star. Okay, because yes, I
Speaker 2: get carried away most of them. Most of them got
Speaker 2: a w and frustration hurts to No, I'm kidding, but
Speaker 2: like certain people, I'll say, because because now he really
Speaker 2: can't talk shit about him, right, he really can't complain too,
Speaker 2: Because exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: As soon as you think you stand on principle in
Speaker 3: this business, they will rest. They will stop at nothing
Speaker 3: until they've managed to get you to compromise those principles.
Speaker 3: They will throw the amount of money at you.
Speaker 2: Yep. In a way, Paul is even more ruthless in
Speaker 2: this position with the way he's doing business because he's
Speaker 2: sneaky motherfucker. Let's fucking go, all right, he is a
Speaker 2: sneaky motherfucker, and he's now going to sneezing to you.
Speaker 2: He's going to own you by making you think you're
Speaker 2: the shit.
Speaker 3: He's sneaky enough to achieve the same ends, but on
Speaker 3: the front end, making you think they're doing business in
Speaker 3: an entirely different way. And when you when you take
Speaker 3: the final assessment, you're like, wait a minute, that's that's
Speaker 3: probably even worse than what would have happened.
Speaker 2: If Vince was there. Nag exactly.
Speaker 3: So the Pyro fires off here in Orlando, and Tony says,
Speaker 3: it's the one night the entire world, the fans of
Speaker 3: professional wrestling have been waiting for, the one day we've
Speaker 3: been talking about for so long.
Speaker 2: You get part of that, right. I don't know about
Speaker 2: the whole world, but the fans of professional wrestling have
Speaker 2: been waiting for this yet.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's absolutely Sunday, July seventeenth. It's Orlando Arena, It's
Speaker 3: Bash at the Beach, Rick Flair, Holkogan Finally, Deny, Tony's
Speaker 3: in his talks. Bobby's in his red jacket. Gene Okerlinn
Speaker 3: is at ringside as well. To kick things off. They've
Speaker 3: got the Purple clown knows on their microphones and Jane
Speaker 3: says it's something that finally has come to fruition. And
Speaker 3: in Orlando they are hanging from the rafters. So glad
Speaker 3: Gene is there to say those things.
Speaker 2: It is nice to have Jean there, you know, kind of.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's weird. It's weird that Jean's there.
Speaker 2: It's not his position ever, you.
Speaker 3: Know, it's always in the aisle, wait to get pitched
Speaker 3: tight exactly and ready to fucking you know, Hawk is fucking.
Speaker 2: Hotline, you know.
Speaker 3: But of Spring ninety four ws WTV is an indication.
Speaker 3: It's his intrepid reporting on the ground in Orlando that
Speaker 3: led to Hulkegan coming here in the first place. Of
Speaker 3: course he doesn't. He'd make sure to be there with
Speaker 3: bells on. And he looks to he and he goes Bobby, heena, no,
Speaker 3: you're not happy, and he says, I'm gonna be happy
Speaker 3: when Rick Flair gets his hand raised in victory and
Speaker 3: Hulkegan leaves Orlando with his hands and knees on his
Speaker 3: hands and knees and all the humanoids are going to
Speaker 3: be saying loser, loser, loser. So Heenan absolutely understands this
Speaker 3: role here, absolutely just picks up where he left off.
Speaker 2: Something something that's always so when whenever w CW would
Speaker 2: cut to the arena, you know, or have a wide
Speaker 2: shot of the inside of the arena, now, it always
Speaker 2: looked like there was something about the lights that made
Speaker 2: it so w CW. And I don't know why I think.
Speaker 3: They I don't think they arrange their lights differently on
Speaker 3: the rig. I think the lights I feel like in
Speaker 3: ww were visible on the hardcam you could see the
Speaker 3: actual rigging, whereas WWF put their camera below the lights.
Speaker 3: Am I wrong about that?
Speaker 2: But well maybe maybe that could be it. That could
Speaker 2: be it. But I also don't know. I wonder if
Speaker 2: because like I always remember, they're like the you can
Speaker 2: always remember the colors of the lights, and well.
Speaker 3: They colored their w's WWF to't even color their lights really.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe that's what it is. Then, That's what I noticed,
Speaker 2: is the coloring of the lights, like because they they
Speaker 2: always had colors and it was always like it just
Speaker 2: it that always meant w CW. It's fascinating. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Probably probably was that they put the gels up there.
Speaker 3: I mean WWF color their lights, like if you had
Speaker 3: like the owen Hart entrance with the projection on the
Speaker 3: mat or on the on the carpet.
Speaker 2: Right, but not just right, not just to open the show.
Speaker 2: They didn't have light right lights that because it didn't
Speaker 2: look like the arena was any color per se. But
Speaker 2: they did have That's that's it. They did have like
Speaker 2: they had gels in the lights that made it streaking out,
Speaker 2: made the light cud. Yeah, the lights looked different, you know,
Speaker 2: it was always crazy.
Speaker 3: And they're you know their entrance ways too. I mean
Speaker 3: that was just w You knew your WCW when you
Speaker 3: saw the beach set or the cemetery, you know, it
Speaker 3: was great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love this.
Speaker 3: They had no respect for that, but that was also
Speaker 3: so core to the ww memory, Like people like don't
Speaker 3: even realize that that little extra like spark of creativity
Speaker 3: on the on the on the sets made such a
Speaker 3: difference and and made people remember w W so much
Speaker 3: more fondly than they would if it wasn't like that.
Speaker 2: Well, and just to be the fact that they that
Speaker 2: they weren't afraid to celebrate, you know, kind of the
Speaker 2: seasonal yeah thing.
Speaker 3: You know, life is about seasons, folks. I mean, I
Speaker 3: hate to tell you, I don't know how much, how
Speaker 3: many more times we got to prove this, but it's
Speaker 3: about is it the is it seasonally appropriate? Does it
Speaker 3: feel right to see this now? Because yes, we can
Speaker 3: see this at any time. Why now is one of
Speaker 3: the most important questions in this life.
Speaker 2: Why now? Yep?
Speaker 3: And that those little kind of details answer that question.
Speaker 3: Why not next month? Well, next month it's not going
Speaker 3: to be summer, is it, Or it's not going to
Speaker 3: be peak.
Speaker 2: So Jean's there.
Speaker 3: That would be a cold day somewhere, he says about
Speaker 3: Flair beating Hogan, not an Orlando pal Right, no cold
Speaker 3: days there at all. Tony says, Shack is here to
Speaker 3: hand the championship to the winner, and that gets a
Speaker 3: big pop. They're in Orlando. He had just signed to
Speaker 3: the Magic and as we talked about in part one,
Speaker 3: was an absolutely cross cultural sensation, not just in basketball
Speaker 3: but picking up. He was huge remembered blue chips. I do,
Speaker 3: I do? I saw it in theaters?
Speaker 2: Is wow?
Speaker 3: I didn't see it in theaters yeah.
Speaker 2: I saw it. I fell asleep. This first movie ever
Speaker 2: fell through? Is that good? I do want to Actually,
Speaker 2: I always wanted to revisit. I've never actually gone back
Speaker 2: because I think.
Speaker 3: This qualifies it. Honestly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, I think Shack actually qualifies a bit
Speaker 2: because he's a It's not like he's not. You know,
Speaker 2: he's made several appearances.
Speaker 3: In This appearance is directly coincident with the theatrical release
Speaker 3: of Blue Chips. The this stuby step here so his
Speaker 3: first one.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm all about that.
Speaker 2: Nick Nolty and uh, you know, you know who directed it.
Speaker 3: I don't know who directed it.
Speaker 2: William Friedkin is that right? Director of The Exorcist directed
Speaker 2: Blue Chips.
Speaker 3: I would have never guessed that a million.
Speaker 2: How does that fucking feel? Jesus take some time that
Speaker 2: I know exactly.
Speaker 3: I'll soo say, Tony does it? Mister T will be
Speaker 3: an Holster's corner, because why not. I mean, if if
Speaker 3: we're going whole hog trying to bring back the the
Speaker 3: old feeling as well, bring mister T.
Speaker 2: But he does not.
Speaker 3: He does not look like he's supposed to look.
Speaker 2: And hey would bring he does not that bringing uh
Speaker 2: Muhammad Ali by Halloween havoc too. So you're right about
Speaker 2: but let's just fucking keep it on going with the
Speaker 2: Man in.
Speaker 3: The South, Jimmy Harris and Sacial sharing a Flair's corner
Speaker 3: and with us from Giant Records, Darren Norwood singing the
Speaker 3: national anthem and he does.
Speaker 2: That, Oh my god, oh here I got that because
Speaker 2: I think it is just awful in.
Speaker 3: His evil can eevil shirt.
Speaker 2: I know he's it's just bad.
Speaker 6: Who say damn see by the dolls?
Speaker 15: It starts off, Okay, what's so proud?
Speaker 2: He's fucking off the reservation? What are you doing? Last?
Speaker 5: Who's broad stripes.
Speaker 16: And bright stars through the page?
Speaker 2: Dude?
Speaker 17: The rampart sweet, we're so Ganlands d Street.
Speaker 1: And the rocket Swamly.
Speaker 2: He's gonna he's gonna bring him bursting in it. He
Speaker 2: knows he lost her.
Speaker 5: Gay food through the light that I Wolf Steve.
Speaker 1: Wolf saved? Does that star spainle Bader?
Speaker 5: Yeah, where.
Speaker 2: Hold the note to get that che.
Speaker 5: Land of the Free.
Speaker 1: And the Home of the Bread.
Speaker 2: There you go. I just I'll tell you like I'm
Speaker 2: not I'm not here trying to say that, like you know,
Speaker 2: he defaced America by doing that, because it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's a fucking song. I know it's the national anthem,
Speaker 2: but it's still a fucking song. I what I can't
Speaker 2: stand is is this attempt to show off.
Speaker 3: Oh God, doing it the national anthem is always ground
Speaker 3: zero for that kind of shit.
Speaker 2: It's like, it's like, if you like, just stop, okay,
Speaker 2: just sing it, do something if you want at the end,
Speaker 2: at the end, not during the whole melody, do it,
Speaker 2: you know like he did the rockets. Great, that's fine.
Speaker 2: That's when you kind of can do a little something
Speaker 2: there because you are singing pretty high. It's got, it's got,
Speaker 2: you know. The whole song is like crazy with octaves.
Speaker 2: It goes all the way over, you know, all over
Speaker 2: the place. But no, no, no, no, like, dude, don't
Speaker 2: don't fucking start playing with the melody. Just hit the
Speaker 2: spots that people hit the spots like do uh you
Speaker 2: know what's her but their living Garcia When she does
Speaker 2: the high note at the end, great, I love that.
Speaker 2: I think that's great. It's a very unique thing that
Speaker 2: is her. This clown just what a fucking idiot. Just
Speaker 2: sing the fucking song and let's get it over with Okay, people.
Speaker 3: Don't know how to do that. Man, No, they don't
Speaker 3: put their flavor on it.
Speaker 2: He's he's a he's a he's a country music artist
Speaker 2: or whatever the fuck, and so he's gotta yes, rest
Speaker 2: in peace. But man, what a what a piece of shit?
Speaker 3: Tony thanks him for that, and we go back to ringside.
Speaker 3: First matchup for the television title. They mentioned Stain was
Speaker 3: injured on a live interactive telecast Saturday night.
Speaker 2: Did we talk Did we talk about the dark match?
Speaker 2: I don't know if we said, oh no, please dark match,
Speaker 2: but yeah, they well, they talked about it briefly, the
Speaker 2: Molly McShane. They talked, you're talking about this one, this
Speaker 2: sassy boys. But they don't talk about the Armstrongs defeating
Speaker 2: Steve Kern and Bobby Eaton.
Speaker 3: I don't know why, but that's not breaking news coming
Speaker 3: across the transom. As far as I know, that did
Speaker 3: not air. I mean, I think the only thing that
Speaker 3: we consider a pre show was the main event show
Speaker 3: on TBS earlier that Sunday. But they didn't do like
Speaker 3: one of those live from the arena thirty minute countdowns
Speaker 3: for this, which is crazy because it's fucking a whole
Speaker 3: cod and like you would think TBS would well, especially
Speaker 3: because Turner Home Entertainment's getting paid in the back end.
Speaker 3: Just give them a half hour right before the pay
Speaker 3: per view on TBS, you fucking move units like crazy,
Speaker 3: But uh, they didn't for Hulk Cogan's debut. I mean,
Speaker 3: fucking all the executives are there. It's it's a no
Speaker 3: brainer to me. That was always so crazy to me,
Speaker 3: Like as important as WWF was to USA and as
Speaker 3: important as WWSTBSTNT, that the pay per views didn't get
Speaker 3: like pre shows on those channels, because that's so goddamn effective.
Speaker 3: I know Sunday and the Heat became that, which is great,
Speaker 3: but that was I think more happenstance than anything because
Speaker 3: that happened to be a timeslot USA and wanted to
Speaker 3: fill Sunday nights in that position. But man, I would
Speaker 3: just I would. That was if I was running things
Speaker 3: in those companies. That's I'd fight hardest for that, honestly,
Speaker 3: because that's revenue. Like if you could put thirty minutes
Speaker 3: on the biggest cable networks in this country, live from
Speaker 3: the arena, soaking up that energy, hitting hard the matches,
Speaker 3: big interviews, maybe an angle. God, you would sell so
Speaker 3: many more pay per views, but it's you know, probably
Speaker 3: a lot to ask these huge cable networks to set
Speaker 3: aside that time once a month. But that's where it's at,
Speaker 3: that's where the action is. That's why UFC pay per views,
Speaker 3: the prelims are so important on ESPN and before that
Speaker 3: spike that's the ticket, man, that's how you do it,
Speaker 3: how you hook people in. They're like, I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: watch this, I'll watch I'll watch the free prelims. I'll
Speaker 3: watch this free thing, and they fifty percent of the
Speaker 3: time they buy it. I swear to God, of course.
Speaker 3: So they go back to ringside first match for the
Speaker 3: TV title. They mentioned again Sting had been injured on
Speaker 3: the live w CB Center Night telecast in the hands
Speaker 3: of Sherry, and so they talk about how he won't
Speaker 3: be here. They show Hulk sitting a ringside that is
Speaker 3: to say, the fake Hull, but they play a replay
Speaker 3: of the Saturday Night, Last weekend telecast and in that
Speaker 3: that's when Hulk first came to center stage and literally
Speaker 3: sat in a chair at ringside or a. Rick Flair
Speaker 3: wrestled Sting and got involved in the end of sting
Speaker 3: turns Flair over in the figure four and then Sherry
Speaker 3: comes in, jumps the rail dressed as a fan, they say,
Speaker 3: and she slugs Randy Anderson and tosses him into Hulk.
Speaker 3: And where the fuck Doug Gillinger was during all this?
Speaker 2: Listen? Is that in the back eating a don'tnut. Clearly
Speaker 2: that's what he does best.
Speaker 3: And it's that involvement of that quote unquote fan that
Speaker 3: brings hult Cogan into a WCW ring in a lot
Speaker 3: of ways for the first time.
Speaker 2: I guess you know the clash too, but well, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll say the clash he does. Get in there. It's
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 3: They pop with his red pants and does a delate
Speaker 3: atomic drop to Sherry and they talk about who is
Speaker 3: this guy? He's about one hundred fifty pounds trying to
Speaker 3: identify Sherry dressed in drag, and Hulk does the you
Speaker 3: and she's got a Sherry a ridiculous wig on her.
Speaker 2: I mean it is in the mustache, the whole thing.
Speaker 2: It's just it is absolutely hilarious. It's one of her
Speaker 2: best outfits. Honestly becomes of ridiculousness.
Speaker 3: Cherry is top ten. Oh, absolutely male or female as
Speaker 3: far as making it feel like it's supposed to feel.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, listen. She she knows how to go out there,
Speaker 2: and she's like Heenan. She's like Heenan in that she
Speaker 2: knows what she needs to do. She knows what the
Speaker 2: payoff is, and the payoff is her getting funny enough assaulted.
Speaker 2: But nobody thinks of it that way because she kind
Speaker 2: of because you know, I'm not saying I agree with
Speaker 2: this in real life, but in the world of wrestling,
Speaker 2: she earns getting an atomic drop. Yes, because she is
Speaker 2: so vicious and she is so violent, like not to
Speaker 2: spoil things, but like going up, you know, fast forwarding
Speaker 2: here when she when when when Flair does the cowardly
Speaker 2: thing of holding Sherry in front of him, she's fucking like.
Speaker 2: She's not like Elizabeth was. She's not like scared or nervous.
Speaker 3: She's like, come on, come on, sucker, that's it, come on, sucker,
Speaker 3: Like that's she's laughing her boyfriend in public. Ye three times, exactly,
Speaker 3: know what I mean, no problem for doing nothing, for
Speaker 3: just being alive. She's slapping him amazing, all right. She
Speaker 3: doesn't give a shit, and you know we can say
Speaker 3: all we want about how we moved on from that
Speaker 3: as a fan base and our appreciation for it, But
Speaker 3: I ask you this question. When it came time to
Speaker 3: signal that Adam Page was coming into all In with
Speaker 3: an extra heightened level of intensity, what did he have
Speaker 3: to do to get that across? He had to take
Speaker 3: Marina Shaffir's head off with the buckshot Larryet.
Speaker 2: That's what he had to do. And whenever he eat.
Speaker 3: Moxley for the title, what did he have to do
Speaker 3: to prove he meant business? He had to give her
Speaker 3: death valley Driver off the apron through a table and
Speaker 3: it shattered in a million pieces. So, you know, and
Speaker 3: he's supposed to be the the the the the the
Speaker 3: keeper of all that is, like you know, politically aligned
Speaker 3: and wrestling politically you know, calibrated, and uh, he's the
Speaker 3: one absolutely destroying this woman.
Speaker 2: It is. It is so funny, how you know you
Speaker 2: just never thought twice Now when somebody hits sharing.
Speaker 3: And and and him doing it again and getting huge pops
Speaker 3: for it, reminds us why Because when you when you
Speaker 3: make it forbidden fruit, it doesn't matter if the wrestling
Speaker 3: fan tells themselves that they are too sophisticated to enjoy that,
Speaker 3: or they've evolved past that. All you do in wrestling
Speaker 3: when you say something is off limits is make people
Speaker 3: want to see it so much more and make it
Speaker 3: so much more impactful when you do it again. Happened
Speaker 3: with chair shots to the head, it happened with pile drivers,
Speaker 3: it happened with violence on women. Anything you think is taboo,
Speaker 3: it's coming back because when Bush comes to show, these
Speaker 3: guys show up at the building for a big pay
Speaker 3: per view and they've got to go somewhere that hasn't
Speaker 3: been gone in a while to make this one feel
Speaker 3: different than the rest, and that's where they're going to go,
Speaker 3: that third rail every single time. So with Hogan getting
Speaker 3: in the ring, he does you to Elizabeth and Elizabeth
Speaker 3: Sherry and she starts like peeling the goateee off her face,
Speaker 3: and the announcers start to uh to put it together,
Speaker 3: and they say, she's dressed like a man, and I'm
Speaker 3: looking at those suspenders, I'm thinking she's dressed like irs.
Speaker 2: That's what she's dressed.
Speaker 3: So Hold rips the shirt and lunges after her, and
Speaker 3: then Rick has to chop lock the leg twice and
Speaker 3: Heenan's cheering him on to attack the knee. Hul Cogan
Speaker 3: break his leg, break it on live television.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's fucking it's not even live television.
Speaker 3: He's been waiting for. So it was that night that
Speaker 3: was the calling one. Yeah, oh is that calling one
Speaker 3: that they did? But he man, Heenan knew And we
Speaker 3: say this all the time, abou nWo And we did
Speaker 3: Batch to the Beach ninety six. We've got to say
Speaker 3: it every time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The arc of Heenan ultimately being right about Hulpe being
Speaker 3: a bad guy, yes, and I mean not a good guy,
Speaker 3: but like a piece of shit is like some of
Speaker 3: the most fucking satisfying stuff I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: It is It is, It is because it's it's a
Speaker 2: it's a lifelong thing. It is all right, it is
Speaker 2: a lifelong and that's what you know. It's and I've
Speaker 2: said this before, it's it's kind of a thing that
Speaker 2: I always really hoped. I thought that Jerry Lawler would
Speaker 2: have done the same thing in WWE with Brett Hart
Speaker 2: and the Heart Foundation in ninety seven. Like it bothered
Speaker 2: me that he liked them because they were heels like
Speaker 2: to me, he's missed opportunity. Jerry Lawler, Jerly, it was
Speaker 2: because Jerry Lawler should have hated them, because because he
Speaker 2: hated Brett Hart so much, because that feud was so
Speaker 2: legendary for for just you know, for just so much animosity,
Speaker 2: so much brutal.
Speaker 3: Great question, as Jerry, like, that's true. You're sitting in
Speaker 3: that chair. You made your entire WWF career off saying
Speaker 3: Brett's a piece of crap, and now he's shitting like America's.
Speaker 2: Family, making fun of his family, making fun of everything,
Speaker 2: and it just yeah, and even if you were.
Speaker 3: A heel, people would be behind you standing up for
Speaker 3: the United States. That would be a plausible reason for
Speaker 3: you to change your tune as a heal announcer. Yeah,
Speaker 3: what was there a discussion of that? Was there talk
Speaker 3: about maybe actually should be pissed that Brett is doing this?
Speaker 2: But no, it just it just felt it was such
Speaker 2: a I was so let down that he It just
Speaker 2: felt it felt cheap that he that he sided with
Speaker 2: Brett Hart.
Speaker 3: And everything we learned about Hogan, you know, as far
Speaker 3: as like his personal life and what a mess it
Speaker 3: is and the manipulations and his personal life and all
Speaker 3: the lawsuits and gamesmanship and pr stunts and all that, Like,
Speaker 3: it's so compelling to think about Bobby Heenen. It's being
Speaker 3: right all along, even even when he was speaking through
Speaker 3: k FA, like I don't care, because you know, it's
Speaker 3: very clear that Heenan had a great degree of admiration
Speaker 3: for Hulk Cogan in real life and the things he
Speaker 3: said in his book and shoot interviews and the such.
Speaker 3: He understood that Hulk was the reason everybody who was
Speaker 3: a millionaire in wrestling in the eighties and nineties was
Speaker 3: a millionaire. But at the same time, what he had
Speaker 3: to be coming from some place. I don't know if
Speaker 3: he's channeling his hatred towards some other prima donna he
Speaker 3: ran intoing wrestling, but he like nailed this guy in
Speaker 3: the little things he'd point out where it's like it's
Speaker 3: Ventura esque, Like why aren't we faulting him for doing
Speaker 3: something that we would fall any heel for doing, such
Speaker 3: as attacking Sherry.
Speaker 2: You know he would.
Speaker 3: He had a fit about that tremendous stuff. And when
Speaker 3: he ultimately is vindicated and he's at Bachel of the
Speaker 3: Beach ninety six, almost he's not celebrating being right. He's
Speaker 3: sad that he was right.
Speaker 2: Mmm mm hmm.
Speaker 3: He gets very somber after the nWo angle, and he
Speaker 3: essentially becomes a w CW Homer baby face announcer. Yep, yep,
Speaker 3: so good. So it's great stuff, it's great and it
Speaker 3: wasn't even by design, but I don't care. Heenan knew
Speaker 3: where to go with it. That's my point. He knew
Speaker 3: where to go with it. He didn't like to your point,
Speaker 3: just say, ah, you see he pulled the wool over
Speaker 3: all of you, and I think it's great. No, he said,
Speaker 3: fuck you, like I'm still the heel announcer, but fuck you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So powerful he was. He was betrayed, you know,
Speaker 2: and that's what made it so fucking money.
Speaker 3: Mister t hops up on the apron and they're going
Speaker 3: forward and flare Bales with Sherry. This is still on
Speaker 3: Saturday Night. Jimmy Harts in there, Hulk has the white
Speaker 3: belt off, ready to swing it. And that's uh a
Speaker 3: little bit of an appetizer for what's to come. Johnny
Speaker 3: be Bad will take the place if Sting, We're told,
Speaker 3: But then they simply the maybe Sting might be in
Speaker 3: the corner. We thought he might be in the corner
Speaker 3: of Johnny be bad, but that won't be the case either.
Speaker 3: Someone get this story from Sting because he'll know seriously,
Speaker 3: he'll just say it was an injury, but it was more.
Speaker 3: There's more here. I'm fascinated. He's got to be pissed
Speaker 3: that Hulk's getting the treatment he's getting and that Sting
Speaker 3: was immediately shoved to the side, and that unification match.
Speaker 2: You know, dude, you know I don't listen get your
Speaker 2: thunder Paradise. Brother, Well you know what do you know, dude?
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. Brother, here's the thing, dude, you
Speaker 2: know what I don't think you you know, dude, I
Speaker 2: don't you even not show up to the fucking bash of
Speaker 2: the beach? Brother, What's you know, what's the point?
Speaker 3: What's what's the upside for you and show up?
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just I'm just thinking to you, brother,
Speaker 2: because you know, I'm not worried like I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: not worried about me, dude, for the Stinger.
Speaker 3: If all of a sudden he shows up anymore.
Speaker 2: I just I just feel like, if there's if if
Speaker 2: all these guys, brother, you know, are kind of like,
Speaker 2: you know, these, I don't I don't want to take
Speaker 2: anything away from anybody, right, dude, I don't want to
Speaker 2: take anything way from anybody do. I'm just more thinking
Speaker 2: about how everybody is. You know, we're here, We're now
Speaker 2: the W's W family. Brother. You know, we gotta contake
Speaker 2: this thing on the next level.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 2: So if we're gonna take this thing in the next level,
Speaker 2: do we've got to kind of create an idea that
Speaker 2: everyone's kind of on an equal ourn equal level. Brother.
Speaker 2: And if you're kind of playing you know, if you're
Speaker 2: you know, playing opening match the hul Cogan, that doesn't
Speaker 2: make you on evil level.
Speaker 3: Well, Terry, then the solution is to not put me
Speaker 3: in the opening match.
Speaker 2: Well, your brother, you know, dude. But here's you know,
Speaker 2: I don't control I don't I don't control the you know,
Speaker 2: the booking of the whole show. Dude. You know I
Speaker 2: have I have some creative control, brother, but I don't
Speaker 2: have you know, the control over you know, everything.
Speaker 3: You're going to At no point in the process where
Speaker 3: you asked to decide where my match would.
Speaker 2: Be ill, they said, do you have any suggestions? Brother?
Speaker 2: I said, well, you know, I don't know what the
Speaker 2: you know, you can kind of lay it out for me, brother,
Speaker 2: And they were like, well, you know, do you question here? Well, see,
Speaker 2: I didn't, but I didn't have any say per se.
Speaker 2: I like, you know, they asked, you know what what
Speaker 2: I had me like what my opinion was? Brother? My
Speaker 2: opinion was, Dude, I think that it all benefit Stint
Speaker 2: to not be on the show because I don't want
Speaker 2: to hurt your aura things.
Speaker 3: Just looking down his hands folded in his on his knees,
Speaker 3: he's like in his gear for some reason, he's.
Speaker 2: All fucking ready to go. Jude. I'm doing this for
Speaker 2: you because I think you and I got a big
Speaker 2: match brother, you know down the line.
Speaker 3: But I don't, brother, not for nothing, dude. As bad
Speaker 3: as it went down between me and New York, I
Speaker 3: still have open lines serah, communication brother, if you want
Speaker 3: to talk to them, dude.
Speaker 2: Brother, dude, if you feel like you can get a
Speaker 2: get him out of the company altogether. This number one basic.
Speaker 2: You know, I'll tell you what you know. You though
Speaker 2: things went down, Brother, I still got some pull up there, dude.
Speaker 2: So if you ever felt like you know, you can't
Speaker 2: have got a better deal up there, brother, think we've
Speaker 2: all at some point, brother, as fans, just so what
Speaker 2: we do? Just brothers sat there and thought, you know what,
Speaker 2: what would stay in WWF look like exactly, du You
Speaker 2: know everyone's kind of wondering that, brother, especially you know
Speaker 2: Brett Hark's stealing your move. Dude, Like you guys gotta
Speaker 2: have a feud over that. I'll think. Tell you what, brother,
Speaker 2: let me give a call, Let me get a call
Speaker 2: in New York. Dude, Hold on, brother, just stay there, brother, dude,
Speaker 2: you just by coincidence. Brother, I don't know if you
Speaker 2: know that just this is totally HAPPI stance. Brother. I
Speaker 2: did talk to the Bishoff and he's totally fine with
Speaker 2: the terminator your contract.
Speaker 3: He got a buried the lead there, Darry. In fact,
Speaker 3: we have the papers drawn up right here and he
Speaker 3: had hands them in a minute envelope.
Speaker 2: If you want to sign your sign right now, I'll
Speaker 2: get you a job of New York.
Speaker 3: Brother, Well that's one way to deal with the incumbent
Speaker 3: top baby face.
Speaker 2: I'll put a pen in your hand, brother, and let
Speaker 2: me take your hand. You know, I'll just sign it
Speaker 2: for you, brother, like with your hand. Dude. It's all good, brother, dude,
Speaker 2: you've already got tell you what, du you got guaranteed money?
Speaker 2: Brother up New York. Dude, you gotta you're gonna main
Speaker 2: event WrestleMania with Brett Hart. Brother.
Speaker 3: We're just gonna get you out of here, dude, it'd
Speaker 3: be totally cool. We're just gonna get you out of here.
Speaker 3: Oh great, thanks Terry, God you make it so easy.
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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking to you, dude, it's a big stinger brother.
Speaker 3: So you're gonna not show up at the vapor of
Speaker 3: your brother.
Speaker 2: I mean, so now you got this deal in place, dude,
Speaker 2: So you're gonna you're gonna not show up, brother? Right?
Speaker 2: Tell me not gonna show do you hear from me?
Speaker 3: You hold on, You're not gonna show up, brother, right?
Speaker 3: And then he says, just tell me you're not gonna
Speaker 3: show up. Desperate, desperate, desperate to at least have something
Speaker 3: that he can throw in the guy's face if he
Speaker 3: shows up. Look you easy, I mean the sting man,
Speaker 3: I know sting Man is hot. Brother, I know he's important,
Speaker 3: but he told me to my face, dude. And if
Speaker 3: this is how it's gonna be here, if people are
Speaker 3: gonna say things all Hubin's and then show up anyway, dude,
Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure we can keep this going much longer.
Speaker 3: I think this thing's already off the rails.
Speaker 2: Brother. What's gonna take dude? I'll give you, Brother, I'll
Speaker 2: tell you, I've got ten thousand dollars in cash right now.
Speaker 2: What are you offering me this money for it? But
Speaker 2: to just not show? What would you get for you?
Speaker 2: What would you be your payday?
Speaker 10: Brother?
Speaker 2: Probably like fifty Honestly, I'm gonna give you one hundred
Speaker 2: thousand dollars to not show up. Brother, Just do the
Speaker 2: fuck away.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna give inexplicably Jimmy Hard one hundred fifty
Speaker 3: thousand and two show up so bad will take his.
Speaker 2: Place to give you night. I'll give you one hundred
Speaker 2: thousand dollars in cash right now. Probably got a briefcase
Speaker 2: all lined up, dude, what's gonna take You gonna show up? Brother?
Speaker 2: You gonna do business? Brother, You're gonna fucking be a bitch.
Speaker 3: Sting accepts the offer at about three thirty pm Eastern
Speaker 3: Time and goes back to his hotel showtime eight pm
Speaker 3: on the dot, the hotel phone rings in Sting's room.
Speaker 2: Hello, Bro, they're not showing right, dude. Still there, brother,
Speaker 2: Still you're in the hotel.
Speaker 10: Dude?
Speaker 2: Why you in the hotel?
Speaker 3: Have this call forwarded?
Speaker 2: Do your brother?
Speaker 3: Do you're Sally? Wait to Kevin Sully? Wait, you're not
Speaker 3: coming right? I just look, I am not going to
Speaker 3: not notice that Sting was completely absent.
Speaker 2: From Hulk Cogan's dumbasy W debut show. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: notice that, especially since Hogan saved his ass a Clash
Speaker 2: the champ. Do you think he would guaranteed to be
Speaker 2: here and he can't even make bad enough? Is isn't
Speaker 2: it bad enough that fucking that Sting is going from
Speaker 2: within within a matter of weeks, going from a world
Speaker 2: title match to fucking TV champion, Like, isn't that enough? Exactly? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Isn't that like enough of a slap in the face
Speaker 3: probably to get Sting to not want to show up himself.
Speaker 3: It's got probably three D chess, you know, it's like,
Speaker 3: all right, we don't want him to be there. But
Speaker 3: we can't say that. So let's put him in a
Speaker 3: completely insulting match and have him work himself by not
Speaker 3: showing up at a frustration, thinking he's sending the US
Speaker 3: a signal, when in fact he's playing directly into our hands. Brother,
Speaker 3: when's the last time you went in? And dude, you're
Speaker 3: I'm not showing a camera? Camera ready? Brother, d you
Speaker 3: know we're we're an lesando. Dude, how are you not?
Speaker 3: Tam brother should be tanness from walking outside? What was
Speaker 3: that say about your dedication?
Speaker 2: Dude? Did you right? And Broler, are you you know
Speaker 2: you can't cancer? You're dying? Dude? This to me, it
Speaker 2: looks like you're cancer patient. But I just want I
Speaker 2: just want to do just like you talking.
Speaker 3: I love how he explains the terms of engagement and
Speaker 3: standing of just instead of just engaging, he explained he's
Speaker 3: always setting the table.
Speaker 2: This guy Turkey. Brother, Are you gonna be dead soon?
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not hoping that.
Speaker 3: I mean that literally obviously figured you're gonna be dead
Speaker 3: soon as far as.
Speaker 2: That's what I know. Dude, are you like? Are you
Speaker 2: in your way out? Brother? I just oh, this thing
Speaker 2: has said nothing? You know I don't.
Speaker 3: He's just looking at him, blinking his eyes, not even nodding.
Speaker 3: Are you coming to the show.
Speaker 2: Dude, But you're not coming on the show, dude. If
Speaker 2: you have to die, I'm not come on the show.
Speaker 2: That's fine, brother, but you're not coming the fucking show.
Speaker 3: Come in, brother, Uh halk I understand yet you had
Speaker 3: something for us to run down for you. Yeah, you know, brother,
Speaker 3: I needed to keep an extra close eye out for
Speaker 3: the Sting man because brother, probably but.
Speaker 2: Kind listen, yeah, I know I know what Sting is
Speaker 2: injured or whatever, brother, but I'm talking right now, dude.
Speaker 2: I want to make sure you know. I just want
Speaker 2: to make sure that he is safe, dude, because I've
Speaker 2: been put himself in harms. Point dude, we all know
Speaker 2: the guy. I'll we've all been there, dude. Well, we're
Speaker 2: kind of like, it doesn't matter how injury we are, brother,
Speaker 2: We d We just want to get out there and
Speaker 2: get to the show. But I'm very concerned about him,
Speaker 2: so I want to make sure that he is okay.
Speaker 2: So I want to make sure we have fifteen people
Speaker 2: outside his door and that he is not going to
Speaker 2: show up fifteen people with guns for his protection. For
Speaker 2: his protection, brother, not for Hulf. But let me tell
Speaker 2: you if he leaves, we fucking shoot him right right.
Speaker 2: If he tries to leave his fucking room, brother, you
Speaker 2: fucking peg him down.
Speaker 3: Half hour to the show, little hello, Hulk, I just
Speaker 3: want to check with you on something. Sting says he
Speaker 3: wants to go to the vending machine to get a snack.
Speaker 2: How do you want to handle this? Why is there
Speaker 2: a reason why give it to us? Is there a
Speaker 2: reason why we can't have someone bring us back to him?
Speaker 3: He's starting to question if this guy's in cahoots. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I wasn't born yesterday.
Speaker 2: Dude, Hey, why can't we have fifteen people watching this
Speaker 2: fucking guy? Why can we have one? Guy? Carr He's
Speaker 2: working the phones all night.
Speaker 3: Trying to make sure Sting doesn't leave his room. Hilarious.
Speaker 3: I love it so much. No one's ever considered this
Speaker 3: and like.
Speaker 10: And uh.
Speaker 3: Oh, he just can't stop thinking.
Speaker 2: About it on his big night listen until he walks
Speaker 2: out to the arena. That's all that's on his mind. Like,
Speaker 2: this guy is so fucking stressed out.
Speaker 3: Over this creates a whole new kind of overlay to
Speaker 3: all that Sting. Holgan tnh stuff where he's like terrified
Speaker 3: of Stinging being in his office or being in the
Speaker 3: building when he's not supposed to be. The face where
Speaker 3: he's got the you know that Hogan face, that famous
Speaker 3: scene where he's got the paint, the red paint. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the look on his face if he had any
Speaker 3: hint that Sting is actually on his way.
Speaker 2: I'll get yes bathroom in his room, right, brother, I'll
Speaker 2: get you.
Speaker 3: Back in ninety seven. Brother, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: We're gonna build for four years. Brother, a big payday, dude.
Speaker 2: And the crow has to go away. The crow, Brother,
Speaker 2: the crow just but we gotta build up the right
Speaker 2: way and the right ways. You're not come on the show's.
Speaker 3: Stingen's got like a Florida ceiling window and his hotel balcony.
Speaker 3: He's sitting there with his feet kicked up on the bed,
Speaker 3: just like steaming so mad, and he's flipping the channels aggressively,
Speaker 3: and he's just like looking towards his door and he's like,
Speaker 3: I should fucking fucking and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: a window washer descends.
Speaker 2: He's got it.
Speaker 3: He's like loitering on Sting's floor like looking and.
Speaker 2: He's got that fucking that that Hogan can hat that
Speaker 2: he had, ring ring ring, ring, ring ring.
Speaker 3: I'll see you, dude. Hey, brother, what's up, Terry? Those
Speaker 3: windows looking a little spotty, brother, Lick Like, don't you
Speaker 3: fucking think I don't have eyes everywhere?
Speaker 2: Listen, dude, you those winnows may be spotty, brother, but
Speaker 2: you're not doing any spots, brother, TERRYK Yeah, what's up? Easy?
Speaker 8: Okay?
Speaker 3: Can I can I talk to you for secon?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What's our brother? No, come on in, Terry before we
Speaker 3: get it. I just have to figure this out because
Speaker 3: I got a bit of a crisis in my hands.
Speaker 3: I'm getting calls from agents. What what's the big deal
Speaker 3: if Steve shows up. I don't understand why you're so
Speaker 3: locked in on Steve not being here at.
Speaker 2: All, because I just don't want to. I don't want to.
Speaker 2: I don't want to steal his heat, brother, right. See,
Speaker 2: this is the thing, dude. See people don't understand brother
Speaker 2: hopping in this. There's a long time. Now, there's a
Speaker 2: long time. And what I know, dude, is I see
Speaker 2: a money mashup down the line with me and Stinger
Speaker 2: right now, but just not right now, dude. And if
Speaker 2: we're in the same building brother, on the same big card, Dude,
Speaker 2: it's just not gonna play, brother, it's gonna take away
Speaker 2: diminish his heat. Wait a minute, is he coming? Did
Speaker 2: you wait a minute? You didn call him the fifteen
Speaker 2: guys that I had fifteen guys? Dude, I gave him
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars payoffs to not fucking shot.
Speaker 3: Are you asking me this question, brother, because you're trying
Speaker 3: to get cover for what you've already done, which is
Speaker 3: he tells Sting to come here.
Speaker 8: Brother?
Speaker 2: Is he here? Did you get staying here? Brother? Did
Speaker 2: you give him a car? Is he here? Dude? Where's
Speaker 2: my camera? Brook? Jimmy, dude, give me the give me
Speaker 2: the fucking fee to the camera.
Speaker 5: Brother.
Speaker 2: The window washer, you have the fucking window washer, dude,
Speaker 2: do it? Empty bed? Brother?
Speaker 3: He gets quiet, he gets he gets like contemplative. Like
Speaker 3: that's when Hult kicks over from paranoia to game planning.
Speaker 3: When that, when that octave goes down like that, that's
Speaker 3: when you know now he's actually scheming. So Johnny, all
Speaker 3: that is to say, Johnny b Bad is going to
Speaker 3: be taking Sting's place here, right, But hold on.
Speaker 2: Heman's got a singer at the end.
Speaker 18: That's pretty great, thought O'Neal in the back shat Kelle,
Speaker 18: Who cares? I saw him and his shoes off. The
Speaker 18: guy's five to eleven shoes up. The guy's five eleven,
Speaker 18: No wonder it used to be better the Bobby. It's
Speaker 18: very exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: There's wrestling with Bobby Heenan and wrestling without it. You
Speaker 3: tell me, can you tell me if wrestling without it
Speaker 3: stands a fucking chance?
Speaker 2: By comparison, wrestling without Bobby Heenan is worthless. It just is.
Speaker 3: Jeane says, until five thirty today, we had the intention
Speaker 3: of seeing sting a pass at the beach. However, the
Speaker 3: doctors say the dude was slashed cornea. It's not the
Speaker 3: right thing to do, yo, brother, Just steamwoer sunglasses, right, dude?
Speaker 3: So Heenan laughs them. Maybe we should keep an eye
Speaker 3: out for him.
Speaker 2: Huh, And he slashes cornea? We do that? Dude? Is
Speaker 2: that illegal? What happens we slash Cornier brother? Great question,
Speaker 2: like is he sleeping right now? This little fucking slash
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 3: Can on the copizorn brother's cause? Is Kazorny so we
Speaker 3: can see a nochi in the middle when he didn't move,
Speaker 3: so that's going to be introduced later. But I'm like,
Speaker 3: is that antnio? No, Yeah, he's better believe there's a
Speaker 3: nine hundred line plug listening behind the scenes interviews. Uh,
Speaker 3: Mike Tenay and a guy named Tom Hunt who I
Speaker 3: don't remember at all is backstage manning the lines.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, that was weird.
Speaker 3: The fun that was lair Hogan, maybe even Bill Shaw
Speaker 3: who knows on.
Speaker 2: The call, anybody doesn't matter who it is.
Speaker 3: Cavanni rings us in it says time to start banging heads,
Speaker 3: don't you think?
Speaker 2: And Heenan says brother.
Speaker 3: The five eleven line about yourquil O'Neill, it's something some
Speaker 3: Johnny be bad and and here.
Speaker 2: He looks just like looks just like little rich.
Speaker 19: And no.
Speaker 2: Friends.
Speaker 14: God?
Speaker 3: Is that Norwood on the song Gary Michael competitor your
Speaker 3: ring an answer? Here comes Tunny sing. We'll be getting
Speaker 3: a lot of that until Mike Buffer comes out and
Speaker 3: big foots all over him.
Speaker 2: Johnny sing king Is that what it was?
Speaker 3: Yes, Junny, he's just noises, he's not words.
Speaker 2: Oh that's exactly right. He's got nothing.
Speaker 3: As it says on his on his cape, Johnny b
Speaker 3: Bad's Cape, when you're hot, you're.
Speaker 2: Hot as as it is is brother me, I mean
Speaker 2: my hot, dude, hot brother, I mean brother, who's got
Speaker 2: he you're hot about me coming into the company.
Speaker 3: Dude, brother, why did you wait a minute? When did
Speaker 3: you what? This is an ultimate It's all here. There's
Speaker 3: no chance on this episode. There's too much at steak.
Speaker 3: There's too many things he has yet to iron out
Speaker 3: in his favor.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, listen until he comes out victorious at
Speaker 2: the end. Everything is in flux. Everything is in flux,
Speaker 2: like everything, it could potentially be disastrous, all this crashing
Speaker 2: down exactly.
Speaker 3: Come true here. He's he's unprotected, the perimeter is unsecured.
Speaker 3: The barbarians are at the gate, yes they are, as
Speaker 3: well as the mings. So you better watch it very
Speaker 3: closely for any signs of slippage. Tremendous stuff. You thought
Speaker 3: Summer Slam two thousand and five, it was a deal.
Speaker 2: Everything's on the line here, so true.
Speaker 3: As we're staying. One of the things that uh Gary
Speaker 3: Michael could as he makes an appearance here, says in
Speaker 3: his book about the Stinger, the successfulst thing at Ben
Speaker 3: in w W the early eighties. The stories of Hulk
Speaker 3: Hogan's political chicanery that preceded his arrival the promotion caused
Speaker 3: the Stinger concern.
Speaker 2: For his top position.
Speaker 3: Wow, Stinger was concerned. I like this scary. Take me,
Speaker 3: take me more into the mind of the Stinger. Yes,
Speaker 3: I'll be doing. Were you afraid? Yes, afraid the gigs up?
Speaker 3: You're afraid the real stars here? You afraid that you're
Speaker 3: really just a whole clan? Are you afraid that this
Speaker 3: is no longer?
Speaker 2: Could that be it? I don't know. Well, if I
Speaker 2: can on a Sting dude, Hulk Cogan and Sting same guy.
Speaker 3: There, could we talk about that? Dude, I'm actually interested
Speaker 3: in that.
Speaker 2: I don't mind taking You know what if I have
Speaker 2: what if I played Sting dude board and you know,
Speaker 2: one or two often I came out as Sting andgan
Speaker 2: the compromise.
Speaker 3: They reaches him coming out with the Sting paint. It's
Speaker 3: just a matter of months. Actually that's what it took.
Speaker 3: He's like, all right, I'll just be a whole comaniac. Okay,
Speaker 3: you can come back, Steve. Sounds good to me. That's
Speaker 3: all you need to do it comes Johnny be bad?
Speaker 3: Do you want to make him mad? Sparkler's off the
Speaker 3: end and here he grabbed the All right, he's got
Speaker 3: a big it's not T shirt gone, No, it's one
Speaker 3: of those things that shoots confetti, the big fucking batons.
Speaker 2: It's like, it's like, right, he's got them in his
Speaker 2: in the sleeve of his robe. He's got these things.
Speaker 2: It looks like he's got like crazy extra long arms,
Speaker 2: but instead they yeah, they shoot out confetti.
Speaker 3: Like and he puts it right wheres dick Is blows
Speaker 3: his load on the people of Orlando. He says, bad
Speaker 3: wants to walk out of here. US Champ, he goes,
Speaker 3: I mean the television champion. I mean he wants to
Speaker 3: walk out of here US Champ too, But I don't
Speaker 3: think that's gonna happen either. There's stuff everywhere, glitter, huge
Speaker 3: circle cardboard circles of glitter everywhere. They get stuck to
Speaker 3: the wrestlers all throughout the first match of the night.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's it's all. It's awful. It's really bad, Like,
Speaker 2: why don't even clean this fucking place up? We're so
Speaker 2: hard about that? I mean, why is it so hard?
Speaker 2: To just come out there and sweep them up. You know,
Speaker 2: here we go.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at my watch. It looks like nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 3: It looks like Steve Rigal's coming to the ring. It
Speaker 3: looks like I need to just lay out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go. Don't let them off.
Speaker 3: And turned a Papa bom bom boom boom.
Speaker 2: From boom boo boom.
Speaker 1: Boom boom bom bom bom.
Speaker 2: Boma po.
Speaker 5: Roll and Papa Papa bump.
Speaker 20: Balm p pum bomb bump pa.
Speaker 2: These fishes. Da, it's the norm, merchant, this is.
Speaker 10: What is the.
Speaker 2: You're coming off like like pantari ar rah.
Speaker 21: Lla rah.
Speaker 2: That koar. Oh fuck, it's a good theme. It's all right.
Speaker 3: Hogan, Gary Michael Kapeta writes in this book was everything
Speaker 3: that Bishop idolized. He was a household name, he had
Speaker 3: a masked considerable wealth, and most of all, he was Hollywood.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: Whenever Hogan arrived in the scene, Bischoff followed him around
Speaker 3: like an attention starved puppy dog.
Speaker 2: Look at that.
Speaker 3: Capitalizing on his notoriety and wrestling the haulk Stort accomplished
Speaker 3: what Eric dreamed about for himself from the first day
Speaker 3: he signed on as ww's newest announcer. He hate Bischoff,
Speaker 3: hates when people say that.
Speaker 2: Hates it. My god, Yet everyone fucking says it makes
Speaker 2: you wonder, makes you.
Speaker 3: Boys trying to push the company more in the direction
Speaker 3: of Woolshire Boulevard.
Speaker 2: Peachtree Peachtree Street.
Speaker 3: He does say that that guy wants an office on
Speaker 3: bullsh Are so bad.
Speaker 2: Oh fuck yeah, listen, he wants to have he wants
Speaker 2: to have, you know, offices underneath. Imagine he wants he
Speaker 2: wants to work twenty hours a day and dressed like
Speaker 2: he works too. Yeah, exactly, he wants to work right
Speaker 2: underneath Brian Grazer and Ron Howard, all right on the
Speaker 2: little fucking corner. I mean they still have that office.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if they did.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they remember when you did the
Speaker 3: regal theme in Philly on stage is what it comes
Speaker 3: down to for us. After ten years, you're standing at
Speaker 3: punchline on the stage. Noyone's sitting there watching you do it.
Speaker 2: Fucking idiot, tremendous.
Speaker 3: So here he is regal with the Sir William aka
Speaker 3: Buildlundie and the TV strap on and even one guy
Speaker 3: has the Union jack in the crowd, so they've got
Speaker 3: some support.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 3: Fake sign alert. Johnny b Bad is so pretty held
Speaker 3: by a woman. She was handed that sign. I will
Speaker 3: get dollars to donuts, he says. In the golf War,
Speaker 3: you could see the whole thing on CNN tonight. You'll
Speaker 3: see another war ironically too. You can't see this actually ironically,
Speaker 3: you can't see this on a turner. You can see
Speaker 3: this on a turner brand as well, just like you
Speaker 3: could the golf War.
Speaker 2: There you go, There you go.
Speaker 3: All right, Nick Patrick, boys, the strap mustachiout and uh
Speaker 3: looking very concerning Nick Patrick. He's got a buzz cut,
Speaker 3: and he's trying to make me think that he might be,
Speaker 3: you know, thinking about bomb bombing a building or something.
Speaker 3: I mean, he and he it's it's it's not like
Speaker 3: he does anything to really change that that that that suggestion.
Speaker 3: He is so bad tonight, Yeah, on this on this show,
Speaker 3: Yeah he is. I mean, it's an all timer in
Speaker 3: terms of his shadiness and his shitty fucking refereeing.
Speaker 2: Oh he's setting a supper star kid in ninety seven,
Speaker 2: is what he's doing. I guess, so setting us up
Speaker 2: for fucking years as it is, But man, is he awful.
Speaker 3: As bad tells the camera at showtime and a good
Speaker 3: day to be a bad man?
Speaker 2: Was he good? Was he a good referee when he
Speaker 2: was on SmackDown? And ww I don't think he was
Speaker 2: bad because I don't know what it is. But he
Speaker 2: is just an awful lazy because it's not even like
Speaker 2: he's a bad referee in terms of he moves a
Speaker 2: lot slower than he he moves a slower, but he
Speaker 2: also doesn't specifically in the tag title match, he doesn't
Speaker 2: like he doesn't make an effort to kind of not
Speaker 2: see things. Yeah, yeah, he's just standing there cheat right,
Speaker 2: and especially the finish of that. But I don't want
Speaker 2: to talk about it yet, but man, he's just awful
Speaker 2: And I don't understand, like how a referee can be
Speaker 2: that bad for this long, like this consistent, like and
Speaker 2: still have a I mean, oh, he has a job
Speaker 2: because of his dad, but like, how do you how
Speaker 2: do you fucking how do you not improve over time?
Speaker 3: It's a great question, great question. So we get John
Speaker 3: to be bad Versteve Regal TV title.
Speaker 2: On the line. Whenever I see Regal during this era,
Speaker 2: I always think of his interview on Jericho's podcast from
Speaker 2: years ago, maybe eight fucking ten years ago, I don't know.
Speaker 2: He talks about how he would decide the style of
Speaker 2: the match based on who was in the crowd. Wow,
Speaker 2: you know, he'd look out in the crowd. I think
Speaker 2: he said he would do this with Guerrero and to
Speaker 2: look out in the crowd, and they would see, is
Speaker 2: it mostly women and children?
Speaker 15: Is it?
Speaker 2: Is it you know, teens? Is it is it adults?
Speaker 2: You know? And he would and he would adjust his
Speaker 2: style for whatever that was going to be, going from
Speaker 2: more comedic, comedic with you know, the h younger with
Speaker 2: the kids and stuff, and then going for a more technical,
Speaker 2: you know, intense fight for for different crowd like for
Speaker 2: adult crowds.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 2: It just was like this so fucking amazing. So if
Speaker 2: you don't really I don't think. I don't think people
Speaker 2: I know they don't. They don't consider that.
Speaker 3: They think wrestlers have a whole fucking routine handed to them.
Speaker 3: They know that wrestlers call things in the ring, but
Speaker 3: they think wrestlers just call things to a predetermined order,
Speaker 3: like not back then, no, not necessarily.
Speaker 2: Like you could ads. He could ad just based on
Speaker 2: who was there and like know what he needed to
Speaker 2: do to get the crowd, because it's all about it's
Speaker 2: all about how you're going to get the crowd to react.
Speaker 3: It's all about how are you going tonce the crowd
Speaker 3: that you're in control too. It's like, because they can
Speaker 3: sabotage a match if they think chanting boring is gonna
Speaker 3: you know, accomplish something. But he's a guy that knows
Speaker 3: how to work a slower style and countenance the boring
Speaker 3: chance in a way that once those boring chance fade,
Speaker 3: they still realize, well, Regle's in control, and I kind
Speaker 3: of have to respect that, you know.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: So the rings covered and glitter has said. Regal is
Speaker 3: doing his walk around the perimeter and snapping his head
Speaker 3: off to the side like he used to do. You
Speaker 3: know that means it's time to lock up. Oh in
Speaker 3: the corner, there's a break. Keenan calls Regal his lordship.
Speaker 2: They have.
Speaker 3: Butterflies the going because uh, you know how big of
Speaker 3: a show it is, and he says, Gene has fleas.
Speaker 3: So Steve Wriggle goes to the arm ringer bad tumbles
Speaker 3: through and cranks on the shoulder to a pop, and
Speaker 3: Tony says, so it's a full arm dragon twist, so
Speaker 3: you can take your shot there if you're playing the
Speaker 3: Tony Shivanni drinking game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you'll get You'll get drunk by the end
Speaker 2: of this show.
Speaker 3: So Regal then flips forward. I used to love how
Speaker 3: he used to take that front flip when someone gave
Speaker 3: him an arm ringer yep, yep, and then off his back.
Speaker 3: He entangles his foot in Johnny B Bad's grip to
Speaker 3: break that uh and gets to a side headlock. And
Speaker 3: then Johnny b Bad tries to go back to the
Speaker 3: arm ringer, but Regal pins him in the corner lock up.
Speaker 3: Bad goes back to the arm USA chance still going
Speaker 3: and Steve Rerigal slaps his shoulder and rolls because in wrestling,
Speaker 3: when your shoulder is being twisted like that, if you
Speaker 3: slap it, I don't know if you know that, it
Speaker 3: kind of right sizes all the muscles.
Speaker 2: And everything well, and he gets the blood flowing is
Speaker 2: what it is? Blood flow? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, because when you crank someone's arm, the blood
Speaker 3: just stops. I understand that just stops.
Speaker 2: You got to re engage, So after.
Speaker 3: He flips, he grabs Johnny b Bad's hair and yanks
Speaker 3: him down to the canvas and Dad comes up pissed
Speaker 3: at that, so Steve Regel with a great umbrage on
Speaker 3: his face as Bad closes it and the ref keeps
Speaker 3: them separated. Bad goes back to the arm head locked
Speaker 3: to the ropes. Regel pulls out the arm and yanks
Speaker 3: down Johnny be Bad to the canvas and smothers him
Speaker 3: with the lateral press for two. Goes to the knucklelock
Speaker 3: neon Belly gets too Johnny be Bad builds back up.
Speaker 3: They go to the knucklelock position and Regal leaps into
Speaker 3: a monkey flip and then back flips up back on
Speaker 3: the shoulders for two.
Speaker 2: Like Okay, am I crazy?
Speaker 8: Or is?
Speaker 2: Did I guess? When Regal looked at the crowd, he said,
Speaker 2: I gotta do a more high flying stop right, he's
Speaker 2: taking he's taking flight. I've never seen him move like
Speaker 2: this before, Like he's it's insane how he's moving, like
Speaker 2: he's doing flips and flying like he's like he's a
Speaker 2: lucha door he is.
Speaker 3: He's mixing a lot of that, like everything instead of
Speaker 3: just selling like that slow, deliberate pain he's selling like
Speaker 3: I'm getting lock knocked off my feet by every single
Speaker 3: thing Johnny b Bad does to me. So when he
Speaker 3: backflips back onto bad shoulders, he gets the two, allowing
Speaker 3: Bad to pull him down a sounset flip position for one,
Speaker 3: and then both have the circles of glitter stuck all
Speaker 3: over them. The canvas is more gray than I remember, boss,
Speaker 3: I remember it being more blue than this. But we
Speaker 3: do have our yellow buckles, the uh the target logo
Speaker 3: in the middle of the canvas in the black rope yes,
Speaker 3: so the crosshairs walk up to the ropes, push off
Speaker 3: leap frog. Bad comes with the jack.
Speaker 2: I could be well, when we were coming New York
Speaker 2: to we have kind of gray. The kind of gray
Speaker 2: mad dude, the same Broler might be something to considered, dude.
Speaker 3: That is one thing Bishoff said big time was like
Speaker 3: he got a little sick of it after a while.
Speaker 3: Hogan would never hesitate to take a moment to say
Speaker 3: that's you know, that's not how Vince does it, though
Speaker 3: brothers would do it, and they him, ah is it
Speaker 3: should you know? It's so ww have to be like, look,
Speaker 3: I mean I know you guys do your thing the
Speaker 3: way you do. Harros want to let you know as if,
Speaker 3: like if he knew how Vince did it, he would
Speaker 3: change his mind obviously.
Speaker 2: But it's like, you know right because he went, well, brother,
Speaker 2: if you want to work big time, did he get
Speaker 2: to come up form vincetas dude? It would never Brother,
Speaker 2: He's he's a big time brother. I don't know what
Speaker 2: you're trying to run down here, but I'm a shit
Speaker 2: show Carni Town.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could say that again. To the Ropes, push
Speaker 3: off leap Frog Bad with the Japanese arm drag, Tony
Speaker 3: calls a Mexican arm drag, which is fine. Bad with
Speaker 3: the foot shuffle and Regal dives on the ankle to
Speaker 3: shut down.
Speaker 2: Johnny B.
Speaker 3: Bad picks up the leg and Bad spins and Regal
Speaker 3: ghost flying as a result of that, Tony credits Steve
Speaker 3: Regal for taking an opponent's change in stride from sting
Speaker 3: to Johnny B. Bad, and Heene said Regal doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter to Steve Regal. All Americans to him
Speaker 3: are inferior. Regal goes to the side headlock and Bad
Speaker 3: tries to shift to the top wristlock, but Regal pulls
Speaker 3: it back into position. Bad Now pushes off and gets
Speaker 3: for a Regal with the tackle over the top another
Speaker 3: Japanese arm dragged by Mark Merrill, who then cranks the
Speaker 3: arm ringer, but Regal sucks him in the face some
Speaker 3: hard forearms.
Speaker 2: Now from Regal. I love it. I I I never
Speaker 2: I say this every time. I think I never really
Speaker 2: appreciated Regal back then. Yeah. I just always thought he
Speaker 2: was boring. I didn't like him. I thought he was dull.
Speaker 2: And I just think he's he's just got a much
Speaker 2: more grounded style than I think anyone maybe realize. I
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know how he was generally received
Speaker 2: back then, but man, he's just he's just I just
Speaker 2: love watching him quiet taste.
Speaker 3: Yeah, once you get the taste of what he's actually doing,
Speaker 3: and you like to your point, you hear a few interviews,
Speaker 3: you get a little color around, like how much ingenuity
Speaker 3: goes into his style, it's like, yeah, let's let's enjoy
Speaker 3: these matches for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean it just it's just it's just great, Like
Speaker 2: he just I don't know, he get I get very
Speaker 2: I mean it's in a weird way. It's kind of
Speaker 2: like when like watching football. Like when I was younger,
Speaker 2: I used to not like watching football, so they didn't
Speaker 2: understand what the fuck was going on, right of course.
Speaker 2: But then you know what's when when you kind of
Speaker 2: learn the rules of football, it's like, oh shit, like
Speaker 2: this is great, this is a fucking great, great sport. Yes,
Speaker 2: the same thing with Regal's that kind of same you know,
Speaker 2: that same veins.
Speaker 3: Putting the strategies to work. Yep, that you now understand
Speaker 3: and can appreciate. So Bad goes for a foot, it
Speaker 3: gets caught, it gets spun around. Regal grabs a front
Speaker 3: face lock, but Bad snaps out with a hammer lock.
Speaker 3: But Regal goes face first on the hammer lock, doesn't stand,
Speaker 3: goes face first. That's how you selles clutching the shoulder
Speaker 3: and takes a powder to get some advice from us.
Speaker 3: Sir William Heenan says that you know what's the problem.
Speaker 3: Why are they viewing him? Quarterbacks were into the sideline
Speaker 3: all the time, and they cheer them for a smart
Speaker 3: play when they do it. Here are the champion, the
Speaker 3: television champion, takes a breather, has a legit ten count,
Speaker 3: and all these humanoids boo them for that, and Tony
Speaker 3: says they boo the quarterback depending on who he was
Speaker 3: if he did that, and he then says nothing wrong
Speaker 3: with disappearing here and there, give me.
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Speaker 21: With Jack and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it says if he takes a walk, he'll
Speaker 2: also I don't think anyone would boo I mean, name one.
Speaker 2: The only the only way you'd boo it is if
Speaker 2: they're playing your team right and you're and you're like
Speaker 2: you're there, then you boom. But I don't think even
Speaker 2: then people would boo for that.
Speaker 3: I don't even think then it would really be I
Speaker 3: don't think it's personal driven. It's more like the play
Speaker 3: like you know, he he he, he did something that
Speaker 3: was kind of cheap. You know, he didn't give the guy,
Speaker 3: he didn't give him his team a chance to advance.
Speaker 3: They're not gonna boo that though, They're just gonna like
Speaker 3: they're going to decry it. But because you're not when
Speaker 3: you run out of bounds, you're not going to boo
Speaker 3: the guy because the team that did it is happy
Speaker 3: that he did it because he stopped the clock and
Speaker 3: the quarterback didn't get hurt out of tackle, and the
Speaker 3: other team doesn't care because he instead of trying to
Speaker 3: get extra five yards, he went out of bounce exactly.
Speaker 3: I don't know who's mad about that, but anyway, Heena
Speaker 3: asks if Steve Riegle takes a walk, he'll lose the title?
Speaker 2: Will he? Then?
Speaker 3: He then take a walk, as they explain, no, he
Speaker 3: won't lose the title. Take a walk, That's what I do.
Speaker 3: Take a walk to Tampa, he says. He gets back
Speaker 3: in the corner, they go regal ship. What whoa whoa
Speaker 3: whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa you're talking about to Tampa?
Speaker 2: Do big night tonight. Bobby looked.
Speaker 3: This is let's drink to a great night here, Bachel
Speaker 3: of the beach. Brother, I want to thank you for
Speaker 3: being magic. On commentary, dude was going over everything that
Speaker 3: we talked about, and just one note on the opener,
Speaker 3: there was a point, brother.
Speaker 2: Dude, he takes out a fucking notebook. Did that's what brother?
Speaker 2: I saw here? Dude, you know there was a point
Speaker 2: during the opening mash brother, you talked about you know,
Speaker 2: Regal taking a walk to Tampa.
Speaker 3: Do what was that about my Tampa? Well, Terry wat
Speaker 3: figured where it's the next nearest big city in central Florida.
Speaker 3: I mean we're right there.
Speaker 2: All well, brother, you know I lived there, Dude. Why
Speaker 2: would you tell somebody to go where I live? For
Speaker 2: you telling him like you're basically telling him? Dude, why
Speaker 2: don't you go to Hulk Cogan's house and like go inside,
Speaker 2: like have a beer.
Speaker 3: Tell me you didn't pick Tampa. There was nowhere in
Speaker 3: your mind, brother, was Hulk cocing on your mind when
Speaker 3: you picked Tampa.
Speaker 2: Mean, why don't you say around in Miami, dude? Why
Speaker 2: not go to Miami, Bros? Why don't you go to
Speaker 2: you know, for Waterdale right there? You know dude Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: Why do you kiss my Why don't you kiss my brother?
Speaker 3: You're gonna tell me as long as we've known each other, Bobby,
Speaker 3: you didn't tell me, brother that you didn't say Tampa
Speaker 3: because I lived there.
Speaker 2: You're not. I been been going since Minnesota, Dude. We've
Speaker 2: been down a w a brother, and you're telling me
Speaker 2: right now, dude that you just happy to say Tampa. Brother,
Speaker 2: that you said Hey, you know I don't take a
Speaker 2: take a hike down in Tampa, brother without any sort
Speaker 2: of you know, kind of subtext, dude, that you were
Speaker 2: basically saying to to Stephen Rigal, brother, Hey, why don't
Speaker 2: you go break into whole Coagan's house everything he's got,
Speaker 2: you know, fucking take his wife, brother, take his kids,
Speaker 2: take his title, I mean, take a tour, take my house.
Speaker 2: Why'd you say that to somebody? Dude? Why would you
Speaker 2: damn brother? Well, I would just say that on air, Dude,
Speaker 2: that you want Stephen Regal to go take and destroy
Speaker 2: Hulk Hogan's house. You said that verbatim. Brother, You said,
Speaker 2: Stephen Regal, take a walk with a fucking box of matches, dude,
Speaker 2: to fucking torch whatever, brother, Hulk Cogan's torch and torch
Speaker 2: his fucking house. Those are the words you said on
Speaker 2: the air. Fucking brother, And you don't expect me to
Speaker 2: bring that up. He looks something to be nervous, Dude,
Speaker 2: we're you been talking to exactly what dugla sting.
Speaker 3: I love how it's like this prosecutorial like I've got
Speaker 3: all this evidence, like you are screwed, Like I've got
Speaker 3: you corner you can't say nothing. Then he goes, who
Speaker 3: you talking to? All of a sudden he needs All
Speaker 3: of a sudden, he's back and like trying to get
Speaker 3: information out of Bobby mode, like Bobby's not gonna say
Speaker 3: anything to you now. After that, I who are you
Speaker 3: talking to?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 2: What are you? Bob? He's just like he's he's mortified,
Speaker 2: he's confused. Do you know what? A lot of it started?
Speaker 3: And I think back it was road wild when we're
Speaker 3: doing the Jay Leno paranoia in a full circle with
Speaker 3: him doing Leno before Batch at the Beach ninety four. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: and he goes to Jericho. He goes, did you have
Speaker 3: a conversation with him?
Speaker 21: Brother?
Speaker 3: That's what I realized, Like, yeah, just a conversation alone
Speaker 3: is enough to raise his suspicion.
Speaker 2: Exactly what are they talking? The questions why why did
Speaker 2: you have a conversation?
Speaker 3: Talk to anybody? You talk to Leno? Dude, you talk
Speaker 3: to the guy I'm in the ring with here in
Speaker 3: a couple of hours, Dude, did you did you have
Speaker 3: a conversation with him?
Speaker 22: Brother?
Speaker 2: You're talking to Leno? What what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: It's a good T shirt? You're talking to Leno? Dude
Speaker 2: talking pretty great, pretty good, it's pretty it's pretty great.
Speaker 2: That's a deep cut. That is a deep cut. Oh
Speaker 2: my god.
Speaker 3: So yes, they get back in the ring. They go
Speaker 3: to the corner, regal shifts at a European upcut, a
Speaker 3: snap mare, and he's club and away. Johnny bad drums
Speaker 3: the front face lock, does the quick wrist grab to
Speaker 3: the hammer lock duck underneath. Tony says, they've been saying
Speaker 3: wrestling's cool again. They hit that one one too many times. God, mean,
Speaker 3: wrestling's cool again. It's old Coogan, He's but this wrestling
Speaker 3: is the same as it's been for ten years.
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's it's not cool again, No, I mean,
Speaker 2: first of all, come on, cool and I don't know
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 3: And that's such a that's such a low key cell phone,
Speaker 3: you know, like we haven't been cool and we know it,
Speaker 3: Like why would you ever admit that?
Speaker 2: Oh so sad.
Speaker 3: Wrestling is not cool when you put the same guy
Speaker 3: in your main event that's been in the same main
Speaker 3: event WWS for ten years. It's exactly any sense. He
Speaker 3: knows w watch ww put a hold on you. Hegle
Speaker 3: has his left arm hanging limp John to be bad,
Speaker 3: just standing there, not attacking Regal is.
Speaker 2: Trying to draw him. They talk about everyone, no one,
Speaker 2: no one's talking about it like here, I actually got
Speaker 2: that clip here.
Speaker 17: Listen to this entire city, this entire area of central Florida.
Speaker 23: In the newspapers yesterday.
Speaker 17: On the television stations, the only thing they could talk
Speaker 17: about Haltalking and Rick Flair.
Speaker 15: You know, just last Friday, gen Oakerland and I were
Speaker 15: in Los Angeles making a movie Time Masters, and everybody
Speaker 15: in Los Angeles.
Speaker 23: Was talking about the pay per view.
Speaker 15: They were talking about this match, Hogan Flair, and not
Speaker 15: only that, they were talking about Vader, they were talking
Speaker 15: about the Guardian Angel, they were talking.
Speaker 23: About Sunny Steve Austin Steamboat.
Speaker 15: Everyone's talking about WCW.
Speaker 17: Reversal well as they've been saying, wrestling's cool again.
Speaker 3: Come on, yeah, sounds sounds like it w put a
Speaker 3: hole on you.
Speaker 2: Oh god, I mean stop, nobody's talking about that ship.
Speaker 8: Stop.
Speaker 2: No one's talking about stop like no stop. Awful? Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was really, I mean, it's it's embarrassing. No one
Speaker 2: and his said wrestling is cool, okay, nobody, not one
Speaker 2: fucking person, And.
Speaker 3: I think one person is a reasonable ask before they're
Speaker 3: allowed to say that, you know, it's it's a reasonable
Speaker 3: kind of per requisite.
Speaker 2: So by the way, of course, a time master coming
Speaker 2: soon under the c.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I'm glad you mentioned that. Did
Speaker 3: you know about that one before this pay per view?
Speaker 24: No?
Speaker 2: I did not know about that one before the pay
Speaker 2: per view.
Speaker 3: Gene Oakland and Bobby Heenan.
Speaker 2: Geene Oakland and Bobby Heenon. It's also got uh also
Speaker 2: got our boy Nils Alan Stewart. Oh shit, that's a
Speaker 2: fucking he He was Jesse Ventura in the Jesse Ventura movie.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, probably probably already got the connections to yeah,
Speaker 3: because they could w W was heavily cooperative in that movie,
Speaker 3: lending them nitro and everything.
Speaker 2: Remember that. Oh yeah, they probably and they probably met him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they probably met him around here, you know.
Speaker 14: In this one.
Speaker 2: Got Michelle Williams in that fucking is that right? Holy shit?
Speaker 3: Looking forward to it now, this is the fact you
Speaker 3: might have to fast track that one. I might why
Speaker 3: she got cooking there in the kitchen.
Speaker 2: But I had some things, but I don't know. This
Speaker 2: one's this one comes very appropriate if we're gonna do it.
Speaker 3: He should do it after the pay per view surface.
Speaker 3: Now anyway, let's see and look at that.
Speaker 2: Look at that. You can get it now, all right,
Speaker 2: we'll see. Maybe maybe that's it. Yep, maybe that's it. Brother.
Speaker 3: So regaliz his left arm hanging limb, trying to get
Speaker 3: Bad to go after it, but he's just standing there.
Speaker 3: Finally goes to the hammer lock, back elbow and European
Speaker 3: upper cut by Regal. Regal tries to sup lexits block.
Speaker 3: Bad goes to the wrist. Regal goes back to the
Speaker 3: elbows and a head butt puts Bad on his seat.
Speaker 3: To the middle rope. He does the dumple, jumping knees
Speaker 3: and then a drop kick, and he slaps Marrow in
Speaker 3: the face. Mary slaps him in the face with the dropkick.
Speaker 3: Meryl fights back, though swinging to the gut. He drops
Speaker 3: down on a fireman's carry and starts cranking on the arm.
Speaker 3: That's very much like No Mercy Boss, where you grab
Speaker 3: a submission out of the nowhere fireman's carry just because
Speaker 3: the guy's hurt. You want to win, like you abandon
Speaker 3: all You abandon all pretense of trying to make the
Speaker 3: match look dramatic and realistic. You just go for the
Speaker 3: submission out of nowhere with no psychology. Heenon calls out
Speaker 3: Thunder and Paradise co star Chris Lemon, who's front row
Speaker 3: looking super cool speaking of wrestling, is cool again?
Speaker 2: Look at this guy? Yeah right, he is miserab Okay,
Speaker 2: such a fucking goof. I mean he's got listen, he's
Speaker 2: got sunglasses on inside. He wants nobody to know that
Speaker 2: he's there.
Speaker 3: He didn't goes Probably I'm probably stuck in, he says.
Speaker 3: If Chris Levin merrou lifts him up in the arm
Speaker 3: ringer and wrenches down on Regel's shoulder, hits him until
Speaker 3: he drops cut again into Chris Lemon. He's next to
Speaker 3: Linda Hogan. Indeed, so we start to notice Linda, and.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know that was I could. I was like,
Speaker 2: you start seeing the moment you see you see Chris Lemon,
Speaker 2: and then all all of a sudden, you see Linda's there.
Speaker 2: Then you see the kids, and then you're like, I
Speaker 2: can't watch any I can't nott watch anything else. All
Speaker 2: I can do is I gotta watch them the whole
Speaker 2: fucking time.
Speaker 3: To think at the time before Hogan knows best and stuff.
Speaker 3: We had no idea, but Linda Hogan looked like no
Speaker 3: clue never that she was forever the whole time. Now
Speaker 3: that we do know, to your exact point, we can't
Speaker 3: see anything else. And she's overdressed and she's looking all,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, she's missmissed America.
Speaker 2: You know, come on, so you think this is it's
Speaker 2: fucking come on. You know he's gonna win. Well, he
Speaker 2: didn't tell you that he's gonna fucking go. He's going
Speaker 2: over flair. Please knock it off. I'm not time for
Speaker 2: the shit.
Speaker 3: Linda Headen says, he's a real lemon. All right, he is,
Speaker 3: isn't He don't look at me like that, he says
Speaker 3: to Tony on the.
Speaker 2: Well, he's not wrong. He's not a fake lemon, because
Speaker 2: he definitely is. He's Jack lemon Son. He's a real lemon.
Speaker 3: Regal tucks in a wild head kick to the side
Speaker 3: of the head to break free and back to the
Speaker 3: European uppercuts. Now corner to corner. Irish whip by Johnny
Speaker 3: b Bad is reversed and Regal puts the brakes on
Speaker 3: and turns around into a big drop kick for the
Speaker 3: count of two. Whip is reversed Bad with the tilt
Speaker 3: to whirl head scissors that he used to do, and man,
Speaker 3: did Regal know how to front flip and tuck that
Speaker 3: head at the very last second. Yes, indeed heel out
Speaker 3: of the corner to that point. As Regal again gets
Speaker 3: to tuck at the last second, Irish whip at a backdrop.
Speaker 3: Regal goes up and over. Johnny be Bad is cooking
Speaker 3: here and he signals he's gonna hit the big left
Speaker 3: and he drops Regal with it, and Regal rolls to
Speaker 3: the floor to prevent being pinned, and Bad goes out
Speaker 3: after him and takes out both he and Sir William
Speaker 3: with a piscado dive to a big pop. Bad hits
Speaker 3: a shoulder from the apron comes outside in with the
Speaker 3: sunset flip, and at this point, Sir William lifts up
Speaker 3: his umbrella that he brings to the ring and Regal
Speaker 3: grabs the umbrella to prevent being pulled down in the
Speaker 3: sunset flip, and then Nick Patrick sees this and kicks
Speaker 3: the umbrella out of their hands. This causes Regal to
Speaker 3: fall down for a two count, and then Regal kind
Speaker 3: of flips back over and ties up and shoots on Marrow,
Speaker 3: puts him on his back, stacks him up for the one,
Speaker 3: the two, and the three. So Regal pulls the rug out.
Speaker 2: From under that.
Speaker 9: That was.
Speaker 2: Kind of a I kind of dug that that finish,
Speaker 2: that Regal power out of it. Yeah really, but yeah,
Speaker 2: that it wasn't just kind of like a slick wrestling,
Speaker 2: you know, reversal or whatever roll through. But the fact
Speaker 2: that he he fucking powered out of it and stacked
Speaker 2: the motherfucker and then held his tights.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yeah, he didn't. He didn't wilt. He just
Speaker 3: went for it, you know. He he didn't chicking his
Speaker 3: way out of it. He just saw an opportunity and
Speaker 3: took it. Ten minutes, forty seconds. Lord Stephen Regal retains
Speaker 3: the WCW World Television Championship defeating Johnny B. Bad in
Speaker 3: the opening contest at Bash of the Beach nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 3: Crowd kind of flat for the finish because it did
Speaker 3: look kind of it did look kind of goofy, a
Speaker 3: little sloppy a little bit, you know, it was kind
Speaker 3: of like forced almost like they intended it for it
Speaker 3: to be smoother, just because it wasn't smooth. It doesn't
Speaker 3: mean it didn't look good, but I feel like the
Speaker 3: crowd was kind of like they struggle to get Regal
Speaker 3: in the right position there. William gets up in the apron,
Speaker 3: bad Sling shots him in backdrop for Bill Dundee, and
Speaker 3: he SCRAMs to give the crowd something to be happy about,
Speaker 3: and Johnny b Bad stomps on that perverted little hat
Speaker 3: that build Unto used to wear in a fun beach
Speaker 3: ball multi that sweeps across the screen on the lookplay.
Speaker 3: It's a fun wipe. Marrow strangely refuses to release his
Speaker 3: grip as Regal is trying to backflip out of a sunset.
Speaker 3: That was the thing about the finish that was really
Speaker 3: kind of weird. You know, you had a situation where
Speaker 3: if Merrow just kind of let go and stop fighting
Speaker 3: so much for the sunset flip, it wouldn't have allowed
Speaker 3: Real to do this to him. But that's minor details.
Speaker 3: The grounds crew is out trying to clean up all
Speaker 3: of that glitter. Tony Shivanni notes and a ringside. Tony
Speaker 3: and Bobby are trying to kill some time, it seems.
Speaker 3: Bobby says he has to check on something concerning later
Speaker 3: tonight as you know Bobby always receiving information from his
Speaker 3: quote unquote sources backstage, being the broadcast journalist.
Speaker 2: All listen, he's very, very very involved, like he needs
Speaker 2: he listen, he needs information.
Speaker 3: And Heena knows he's got a scram And Tony says, well,
Speaker 3: stay with me for a few minutes. As it becomes
Speaker 3: clear that he didn't kind of jump the gun on
Speaker 3: that piece, Tony mentions Chris Lemon and other dignitaries. Chris
Speaker 3: Lemon and other dignitaries. There's a phrase it's never been
Speaker 3: uttered before. Yeah, and nor shall it ever, He said again.
Speaker 3: The please Hogan look a lot guy is right over
Speaker 3: Tony's shoulder, as he would be for just about every
Speaker 3: Red and Yellow Holk Cogan match. In WCW Tony talks
Speaker 3: about Hogan being on readising Kathy Lee and he and
Speaker 3: and s Hiss Flair doesn't have to beat him. Hogan's
Speaker 3: been running five miles a day, George Forman training him.
Speaker 2: He hopes it works.
Speaker 3: It does have to beat him, Maybe that's what I
Speaker 3: meant to say, so w CWS Elson negotiating the ward
Speaker 3: in The Observer was to even have Mike Tyson be
Speaker 3: involved in some of the training vignettes for Hulk Cogan.
Speaker 3: Bischoff flat out denied that. But he's been kind of
Speaker 3: weird about his talks with Tyson. I think he's kind
Speaker 3: of sensitive about the fact that they could have preempted
Speaker 3: WWF getting Tyson in ninety eight because they were in
Speaker 3: talks with him.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like he's got like a default position of
Speaker 3: acting like he never talked to Mike Tyson in his life.
Speaker 3: I'm sure he can find sound of him saying he did,
Speaker 3: but I always wonder about that. But of course Iron
Speaker 3: Mike was I think in prison at the time, so
Speaker 3: that would have been a little bit difficult. I think
Speaker 3: the observer sin in permission in exchange for permission to
Speaker 3: film Tyson w w's offer to air the bet ash
Speaker 3: at the beach for free throughout the prison. That would
Speaker 3: be something to see.
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 3: Tony says he'll be joined by Jesse the buddy Ventori
Speaker 3: here in a few minutes. As he Heenan waves his
Speaker 3: arm and checks his watch because he's got a lot
Speaker 3: going on and he wants the thing to move along.
Speaker 3: There's a woman in the ring with Gene introduced for you,
Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen, currently Japan's premieer superstar, but also a
Speaker 3: tremendous human being elected recently by a popular vote to
Speaker 3: the House of Counselors, the equivalent of a senator. Please
Speaker 3: welcome the great Antonio Andoki and he comes out to
Speaker 3: a minor pop and a full tuxedo. This is Gene
Speaker 3: Oakland in the ring here and here with the dignitaries
Speaker 3: from a Plan Japan also muscacai eto. Gina says, can
Speaker 3: we get a translation for this for all of us
Speaker 3: at WCW. We want to present to Antonio and Oke
Speaker 3: on July seventeenth, nineteen ninety four, recognition of your tremendous contributions.
Speaker 3: This blaque standing ovation for Antonio Andok is called for.
Speaker 3: He gets a kiss from the woman in the ring.
Speaker 3: Flowers are exchanged, and this was all part of a
Speaker 3: no he's trying to find like an opponent for a
Speaker 3: WSW you know, Japan crossover thing. Regal was kind of
Speaker 3: thought to be someone that would plug in nicely to
Speaker 3: Japan as a working heel, and as mentioned, Bischoff really
Speaker 3: tried to restart the New Japan relationship through Brad Ringgins
Speaker 3: after it kind of collapsed under Bill Watts. So Brigel
Speaker 3: comes back in. They're kind of shooting this for Japanese
Speaker 3: television as much as they are for American television, and
Speaker 3: he gets to the microphone. He says, am I led
Speaker 3: to believe that this man from overseas is receiving a
Speaker 3: plaque for being an honorable wrestler. What a noble Englishman
Speaker 3: like myself, elected to the House of Lords and who
Speaker 3: has beat everyone you have to offer does not get
Speaker 3: an award?
Speaker 2: Am I to believe? Right?
Speaker 3: I put an end to a legend in this country?
Speaker 3: Now you have to fly in suppose the legends. I
Speaker 3: just came back from Tokyo, where I beat the greatest.
Speaker 3: I didn't see this man anywhere to be found Antonio
Speaker 3: the whole time. Antonio and ok, he's given him that money,
Speaker 3: like dead serious, up and downstair, Like he doesn't understand
Speaker 3: every word he's saying, but he understands enough to know
Speaker 3: that he's asking for an ass kicking. Regal says, beating
Speaker 3: Ali and Andre doesn't wear with me. I am far
Speaker 3: superior to you, and it's a bloody job you're retired
Speaker 3: right now. Otherwise I'd give you a lesson like I
Speaker 3: did everybody else. And then Antonioki starts like marching him
Speaker 3: around the ring and says something into the mic. You
Speaker 3: can't really make out what he says, something about wrestling,
Speaker 3: and yeah, it takes off the coat. They pop when
Speaker 3: he takes off the coat. He has those instincts, I'll
Speaker 3: give him that, and they're popping and calling out and
Speaker 3: the woman's laughing and smiling.
Speaker 2: That that is listen my experience when whenever a wrestler
Speaker 2: from Japan is taking off a coat, you get the
Speaker 2: fuck out of that, right, absolutely, that's what happened with Kobashi.
Speaker 2: Took off that fucking coat and oh yes, mark my
Speaker 2: fucking check.
Speaker 3: On YouTube still lives on YouTube. So Regal bounces, you
Speaker 3: were lucky. He says, I'm sick of these so called
Speaker 3: bloody legends, and Regal even steps to a fan who
Speaker 3: hit him in the aisleway. Doug Dilander, of course, Johnny
Speaker 3: on the spot. Now Tony's with Jesse Ventura. Turn around, Jess,
Speaker 3: you're on camera. Oh you talk about checked out? My
Speaker 3: second he heard at Hogan's coming in.
Speaker 2: He is done. He is just you can tell on
Speaker 2: his face. He is just like, Hey, can I get
Speaker 2: the fuck out of here playing Hey, hey, hey, I
Speaker 2: don't want to be here anymore Shavanni.
Speaker 25: Jesse hated Hogan, hated Hogan, hated the fact that we
Speaker 25: hired Hogan and being the primited, down a little bitch
Speaker 25: that he was.
Speaker 7: You know, the fact that there was so much focus
Speaker 7: on hul Cogan and no more focus on Jesse Ventura.
Speaker 7: You know, he got his undies all wound up, but
Speaker 7: he and he couldn't hide it, you know, he just
Speaker 7: couldn't pretend he wasn't pissed off. And that's exactly what
Speaker 7: you saw there. I mean is he was at his
Speaker 7: unprofessional best. In my opinion at that point. It was,
Speaker 7: like I said, it was as unprofessional I think as
Speaker 7: one could be, you know, And it's easy for a
Speaker 7: guy like like Jesse Venturer, not Jesse particular, but for
Speaker 7: someone like him who's playing a heel and is trying
Speaker 7: to do what everybody doesn't think they're going to do
Speaker 7: and say what people don't expect them to say. I
Speaker 7: get all that horseshit, but yeah, to leave Tony hanging
Speaker 7: out on a ledge like that because you've got a
Speaker 7: you know, particular acts to grind because the focus isn't
Speaker 7: on you as a talent, and the focus is on
Speaker 7: a guy who you personally don't like for whatever reason,
Speaker 7: is so immature and unprofessional. And I'm literally I haven't
Speaker 7: watched Jesse in so long I can't remember the last time.
Speaker 7: And when I saw that this morning, I went, cat,
Speaker 7: I'm really glad I fired him.
Speaker 3: What a bishop's been a rants Honestly, I can say, geez.
Speaker 3: Maybe part of the reason Jesse was cranky was because
Speaker 3: he had just found out in the deposition, well, it
Speaker 3: had just wrapped up the case he filed against WWF
Speaker 3: over collising and video likeness rights, and it was in
Speaker 3: deposition for that lawsuit that he found out that Vince
Speaker 3: undersworn Oath said that Hulk Hogan was the one who
Speaker 3: rated out Jesse's attempt to unionize the locker room before
Speaker 3: Wrestling two, so that might have had just a little
Speaker 3: something to do with it. And Jesse had just closed
Speaker 3: the deal to settle for high six figures with WWF
Speaker 3: because they didn't pay him as they should have for
Speaker 3: his appearances on Colosseum Home video, all the while paying
Speaker 3: people like Hogan and some others who they swear weren't
Speaker 3: getting royalties or royalty streams, So that was part of
Speaker 3: why I'm sure Jesse wasn't necessarily interested interfacing with the Hulkster.
Speaker 3: A lot of what Eric said, just to be clear,
Speaker 3: there was couched in what happens much later on the
Speaker 3: broadcast where Jesse is asked directly by Tony Shavanni in
Speaker 3: a clear attempt to kill time who he predicts in
Speaker 3: the Rick Flair Hulk Cogan match, and Jesse, instead of
Speaker 3: saying anything, just says, I already gave my prediction and
Speaker 3: absolutely leaves Tony hanging and have to kill yes, doesn't
Speaker 3: want to say it. And in fact, in Jesse's defense,
Speaker 3: he had made his prediction on WCB television and this
Speaker 3: is what that sounded.
Speaker 21: Totally, And they'll get their shot, as you said, Tony,
Speaker 21: it's just hours away.
Speaker 8: And the big question is can.
Speaker 2: Hulk Hogan do it?
Speaker 21: Can Hulk Hogan come out of hiatus, out of being
Speaker 21: out of wrestling now for what almost a year, can
Speaker 21: he comes nature Boy Rick Blair and become first time
Speaker 21: ever WCW World Heavyweight Champion, or as I predict, will
Speaker 21: the nature Boy prevail? Because it's my opinion, Nature Boy
Speaker 21: Rick Flair's on top of his game. He's like a
Speaker 21: precision piece of machinery right now. And Hogan is going
Speaker 21: into this match with literally no warm up match.
Speaker 19: Well, you're right, he's gonna have mister Key in his corner.
Speaker 19: He has been training with George Foreman Shaquille O'Neil. Tonight
Speaker 19: will present the built to the champion, be it either
Speaker 19: Flair Hogan.
Speaker 23: It is going to be exciting.
Speaker 1: It is going to be to night.
Speaker 19: And we still in this program have comments from Hulk
Speaker 19: Hogan here on the main event.
Speaker 21: I just hope Shaquille O'Neil doesn't bother me too much there.
Speaker 21: The guys put the word out his greatest desire in
Speaker 21: history is to get an autograph from me. I've got
Speaker 21: things to do tonight.
Speaker 19: He would lother get an autograph from you the win
Speaker 19: the scoring title in the NBA.
Speaker 21: You think I would say they as, wouldn't you? I
Speaker 21: know you'd say, yeah, well there you go, And where
Speaker 21: would you ask me? If you already know what the
Speaker 21: answer will be.
Speaker 23: I'm in a reposition you go to work with.
Speaker 8: Oh my god, what happened? A w c W was
Speaker 8: brought Hogan in and that stuff. The end for me.
Speaker 8: Hogan wanted me gone, and it was and my contract
Speaker 8: had about six months to go on it when they
Speaker 8: brought in Hogan, and I was never called back. So
Speaker 8: for six months I just sat at home and they
Speaker 8: paid me.
Speaker 2: Why did he want want you gone?
Speaker 8: I mean because Hogan wanted to control and he knew
Speaker 8: he couldn't control Jesse Ventura. And he knows that I'll
Speaker 8: say anything on the micah and and and I didn't
Speaker 8: even know they were bringing him in, and I badmlfed
Speaker 8: him and they never didn't tell me that. Bischoff didn't
Speaker 8: tell me he was bringing him in. And so right there,
Speaker 8: Bishop's loyalty was to Hogan because he managed gets an
Speaker 8: angle and when he left Vince and that cut me loose,
Speaker 8: even though I helped Bishof get to the position of power.
Speaker 8: Bishop's a little backstabber.
Speaker 3: A little backstabber's that's what you get when you get
Speaker 3: a guy who was never satisfied with what wrestling gives him.
Speaker 3: Right there, money in absolutely that's with a wrestling ink there.
Speaker 3: Jesse Ventura speaking not too long ago about the ww
Speaker 3: row Cogan wanted to hold. Cogan wanted to control Jesse.
Speaker 3: The body Ventura and you can control Jesse the body Ventura.
Speaker 3: H I don't blame Hogan.
Speaker 2: Not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3: The things he would have said on the mic after
Speaker 3: that fucking core fiasco about Hogan Hogan would have been
Speaker 3: the fucking painted is the biggest crook in the world.
Speaker 3: For any little misstep he man in that ring, Jesse
Speaker 3: would have gone off the handle about him clotheslining. Sherry
Speaker 3: would never heard the end of the last thing you'd
Speaker 3: hear at Past to the Beach. Instead of this big
Speaker 3: celebration of Hogan's crowning in his first match, would be
Speaker 3: Jesse's screaming about Sherry the whole time. You can imagine it.
Speaker 24: I do.
Speaker 2: I am kind of bummed that, uh, it would have
Speaker 2: been great that he didn't Well, I'm bummed that he
Speaker 2: wasn't on commentary for this too. That's it.
Speaker 3: That's just it too, that we never got I'm bummed
Speaker 3: that we didn't get Jesse even tourer commenting one Hull
Speaker 3: Cogan WCW match. I would have loved to hear what
Speaker 3: you want to come up with h You imagine if
Speaker 3: they worked it out and Jesse was in the Nitro booth.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's something you never think about. That
Speaker 3: would have been unbelievable. Imagine that sitting here picturing it.
Speaker 3: I'm picturing Jesse in the in the seat instead of
Speaker 3: heen And at Bash of the Beach ninety six. Yep,
Speaker 3: it would have been better, but it would have been different,
Speaker 3: in a fascinating been.
Speaker 2: It would have been. Hey, I told you all the time,
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised at all. I'm not surprised. Look at
Speaker 2: this whole Cogan coming out to save the day. Huh,
Speaker 2: look at this. He turned just back on everybody. Big hero.
Speaker 2: That's what he does, big hero, Big hero. Why don't
Speaker 2: you go hit a woman? Right? Exactly?
Speaker 3: And then I'm just like trying trying to get like
Speaker 3: the company line across, and he's just like going into
Speaker 3: business for himself.
Speaker 2: I love the hook. Hogan's a son of a bitch.
Speaker 2: I've known that for years.
Speaker 3: I love how salty Bischoff is about Jesse.
Speaker 2: God bless you. Oh it's great, It's fucking fantastic.
Speaker 3: So here, Jesse says, I had a fortune of wrestling
Speaker 3: in Okie. One time, Tony looks around like he's pissed
Speaker 3: that Jesse is talking about this.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know his fucking thing.
Speaker 14: Oh my god, the Land Wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast
Speaker 14: that knows the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan.
Speaker 14: He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnacio
Speaker 14: m JP sorrow.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 10: Look.
Speaker 2: I did try to look it up this uh I
Speaker 2: wrote it down here when he talks about wrestling and Okie, are.
Speaker 3: You trying to find the match?
Speaker 2: I did? I looked, he does. He did wrestle him,
Speaker 2: but it was not like it wasn't what he said
Speaker 2: it was. Yeah, it was different. I think I have
Speaker 2: it here somewhere, but I don't know. Okay, maybe it's
Speaker 2: later on.
Speaker 3: But so he said Regal shouldn't shouldn't Regal go to
Speaker 3: the back? He says, and Jesse goes, do you have
Speaker 3: to ask?
Speaker 5: You have not me?
Speaker 3: And he calls Jesse, your honor. That's gotta be a
Speaker 3: comment on the court case. You gotta put that on
Speaker 3: the h that's my contract. You gotta call me your
Speaker 3: honor because I'm the judge jorian executioner, but mostly the judge.
Speaker 3: I'm the judge jury executioner of Minnesota have been for years.
Speaker 3: They come to me, right, mm hm, I'm the decider.
Speaker 3: I'm the decider. That was uh yeah, that was That
Speaker 3: was the George Bush line. Yeah right right, I am
Speaker 3: judge jury and Buddy Rose so the executioner. So he's
Speaker 3: got hair in his back. He's got hair in the back,
Speaker 3: Jesse does. So that's a problem. But he's still trying
Speaker 3: to keep it coming.
Speaker 2: Oh it's I don't understand that. I don't understand that.
Speaker 2: It's it's really it's inappropriate. It's it's inconsiderate. It's not
Speaker 2: it's not okay. So it's not okay.
Speaker 3: It's Vader, it's w W it's ninety four. Let me
Speaker 3: see here, Yeah, this will be boons clang clang, clang clang.
Speaker 2: With Harley. Look at a bump. Oh my god, absolutely,
Speaker 2: oh my god, Oh my god. And this is he bumped.
Speaker 2: If that if there was ever a time when somebody
Speaker 2: fucking like, you know, lapsed, you know, lapsed theory comes
Speaker 2: to fruition.
Speaker 3: Holy ship was laughing my ass off watching Harley bump
Speaker 3: in this one men and a Men's Warehouse suit and he's.
Speaker 2: Sailing seriously ah mm hmm. Fucking he is. He's out
Speaker 2: of his mind. Come on, come on, come on, he's
Speaker 2: out of his mind.
Speaker 5: He is.
Speaker 2: He absolutely is like that.
Speaker 10: That.
Speaker 2: That tubby little bitch is just out of his fucking mind.
Speaker 2: Come on, I need it, I need it. I need
Speaker 2: a bump. I want to feel my organ an. I
Speaker 2: need to feel the bump. I want to feel the bump.
Speaker 2: I need to feel build the bump, Build the bump,
Speaker 2: bump to the build word.
Speaker 3: Dear mother bumped me home and said, West Virginia Gonfree
Speaker 3: Rhades bumped me home. Oh my god, Harley Race with
Speaker 3: a stomach full of Kansas City but barbecue, No question
Speaker 3: about that. This guy his smoked fucking meats and his
Speaker 3: tragger grill like smoking sky high. I'm smoking a bump,
Speaker 3: smoking a pancake.
Speaker 2: The more the more I eat, the more I bump.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, come on, let's lock up. He's in the
Speaker 3: backyard at a barbecue lock up and gets pushed off
Speaker 3: on the grass.
Speaker 2: It's like it's some it's some fucking you know, like
Speaker 2: normal neighbor, you know who, just like he lives in
Speaker 2: the neighbors saying all right, look, I know, I know, honey,
Speaker 2: I know it's a it's a pain, but we gotta
Speaker 2: go to the races. Okay, he's having a.
Speaker 3: Is he gonna say? Built to the bump again? I
Speaker 3: still don't her stand with that.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. But look he's you know,
Speaker 2: we we like to the neighborhood. Okay, we like to
Speaker 2: keep it. I don't even keel. Okay.
Speaker 3: Five minutes later, he's taking taking the corner of his
Speaker 3: wooden deck like he takes the buckle over.
Speaker 8: Daryl.
Speaker 26: Come here, come here, Daryl, give me out. Let's belt
Speaker 26: the bomp. Come on, Daryl, fucking barbecue. I'm gonna bump.
Speaker 2: What the need in need in need? Okay, okay, okay, Harry,
Speaker 2: how do we do this again? All right? There we go.
Speaker 2: Here we go, Here we go. There's a whole fucking
Speaker 2: ball game, my dear, Here we go. Lock up. We're
Speaker 2: gonna lock up. Okay, okay, okay, all right, Uh you're sweaty.
Speaker 3: Pushed me, damn it, pushed me. Come on, go on,
Speaker 3: push me, just put me here. He does the things
Speaker 3: where his arms flail and off the floor exactly.
Speaker 2: He's on the fucking grass. He's in like, you know,
Speaker 2: shorts and a tucked in you know, like a polo shirt. Okay,
Speaker 2: just fucking one foot on the ground, one foot up,
Speaker 2: straight up, two arms out. He just fucking bumps and
Speaker 2: then does like a backward roll, you know, having bumped.
Speaker 2: He's in a state of having bumped normal. Okay, Okay, Harley,
Speaker 2: you're right, ah, do it again, Get it again, Get
Speaker 2: it again, get it again.
Speaker 8: You a bitch.
Speaker 3: Guy's money, guy's absolute money. And he faces Ray Trailer,
Speaker 3: the Guardian angel here, not the one, oh fuck, not
Speaker 3: the running for a mayor of New York City, but
Speaker 3: in fact, Ray Trailer for Vader. This says it all
Speaker 3: that he's as soon as home comes in. Here he
Speaker 3: is after going for Flair in the world title the
Speaker 3: last time they were on pay per view or two
Speaker 3: pay per views go now he's in the mid card,
Speaker 3: as he says in his book, after the Thundercage, executives
Speaker 3: took me out of the main events scene. I knew
Speaker 3: it was coming, and it bugged me. I knew not
Speaker 3: to say anything, but I figured maybe I could make
Speaker 3: my action speak louder than words in the ring and
Speaker 3: force them to keep me in the mix. My first
Speaker 3: mite card feud was with Ray Trailer, who many may
Speaker 3: remember as Big boss Man in w W if you
Speaker 3: had just come in pretty hot office stint with Vince
Speaker 3: in WCW. They just called him the Boss at this point, no,
Speaker 3: but would later call him the Guardian Angel for legal reasons.
Speaker 3: Ray was excellent and worked really snug or matches were
Speaker 3: better than they had hoped, and for some reason they
Speaker 3: attributed this to me and my storytelling. Therefore, they decided
Speaker 3: not to just kill off my stock just yet. They
Speaker 3: had me defeat him at Spring Stampede and try to
Speaker 3: figure out what to do with me next. Next they
Speaker 3: put me with another person sitting out from the Flair
Speaker 3: Hogan Main Events spotlight, and that was Sting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, what what is his timeline?
Speaker 3: I know he saw slamboury ninety four, which is before this,
Speaker 3: the month before this, and uh yeah, he's definitely forgetting.
Speaker 2: That was his first match with With with the Boss Man.
Speaker 3: Says it was at Spring Stampede, which.
Speaker 2: But it was actually a Slambery. No, Slambury was the
Speaker 2: Sting match. Oh, Sammy was the thing match And this
Speaker 2: was the first time with with With the Boss Man.
Speaker 3: This I think was the second time he remembers working
Speaker 3: him as the bus and then a Guardian Angel. But
Speaker 3: it wasn't before it stings in between, I believe is
Speaker 3: what he's what he's saying. But yeah, that's pretty it's
Speaker 3: pretty funny. Like actually that sting just gets relegated back
Speaker 3: to the old Vader feud. It's like, all right, go
Speaker 3: over there. That works, like, get out of here, we
Speaker 3: clearly have no plans for you. So here he comes
Speaker 3: for the opponent, of course, from Cobb County and comes
Speaker 3: out to a song that sounds a little bit like
Speaker 3: Bad Street USA. The man who stands for law and order.
Speaker 2: And I I hate this gim it's so bad. It's
Speaker 2: so much.
Speaker 3: It's like he was a cop in WWF. He can't
Speaker 3: be a cop because that'll be too close, so we'll
Speaker 3: just make him a guardian angel.
Speaker 2: That's just another version of it.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's just it's dreadful. The protector of ww the
Speaker 3: man who stands for lawn order. Like the fact that
Speaker 3: he's wearing a white T shirt and khakis is just deplorable. Well,
Speaker 3: that is one thing he has in common with you.
Speaker 3: He stands. He stands for lawn order, right, I do.
Speaker 2: It's very true.
Speaker 3: He once did not guilty, not ye Winkle had been stripped.
Speaker 2: Worst worst call ever? Why oh, the fucking clown was
Speaker 2: totally guilty. Yeah, you had no I wanted him to
Speaker 2: be fucking I mean, that's you know. I think I
Speaker 2: might have said is when I auditioned, he was guilty.
Speaker 2: When I auditioned, the verdict was guilty, and then they
Speaker 2: change it to not guilty.
Speaker 3: Do you think that they give you a k fabe
Speaker 3: thing for auditions so you don't go out there act like.
Speaker 2: You know it's possible. I also think they might have
Speaker 2: changed it to make it sound a little more. You know,
Speaker 2: sometimes with those shows, it's like you can't you can't
Speaker 2: always have a happy ending on a lawn or white show.
Speaker 2: You kind of need to have justice not prevail in
Speaker 2: a way because that's life, you know that that's that's
Speaker 2: that's due process.
Speaker 3: The ad a kind of walking down the courtroom steps
Speaker 3: after losing the verdict, exactly, looking looking back at the
Speaker 3: court and then walking to her.
Speaker 8: Car, you know.
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, but I mean I would have liked
Speaker 2: to have had him be guilty anyway, just because he's
Speaker 2: a guy with a break, huh, not to be.
Speaker 3: They mentioned that Commission Nick Bockwinkel had stripped the Guardian
Speaker 3: Angel of his handcuffs and nightsticks, and that the Guardian Angels,
Speaker 3: the actual ones, had come to ww television taping and
Speaker 3: took him to the streets of New York to train
Speaker 3: on how to be a Guardian Angel. Okay, so Vader
Speaker 3: versus Guardian Angel here at bash at the beach and
Speaker 3: Harley gets it in so.
Speaker 2: I understand, So how do you train to be Guardian Angel?
Speaker 2: But like, are they supposed to be non violent anyway?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're supposed to be basically like a like a
Speaker 3: force that keeps troublemakers from feeling like they can commit
Speaker 3: problems without being noticed, witnessed, intimidated.
Speaker 2: Yeah they were.
Speaker 3: They roll in the streets and they helped the police
Speaker 3: and all this. So Harley gets in our Angel's face
Speaker 3: and Trailer tosses him out of the ring and you
Speaker 3: better believe Race is pumping within seconds. Oh absolutely, and
Speaker 3: that that allows Vader to pounce on Guardian Angel, and yeah,
Speaker 3: there it is. They mentioned how JV loves it. They
Speaker 3: took the eyes off of Vader and I was paying
Speaker 3: for it. Jesse Ventura of course loves that Vader did this,
Speaker 3: and he says that a Backwinkel did the right thing,
Speaker 3: taking the stick from the guy. Why should anybody be
Speaker 3: allowed in the ring with a foreign object? So Jesse's
Speaker 3: on his logic. Tip Vader with the headbutts Iris Whippen
Speaker 3: does a spinning heel kick.
Speaker 2: I swear to god. Vader does a spinning heel kick
Speaker 2: at Basher at the Beach nineteen ninety five. Yes he does,
Speaker 2: Yes he does.
Speaker 3: Takes down the Guardian. Angel Ado steps forward with a
Speaker 3: big lariat. Guardian ducks though and lifts and jumps Vader
Speaker 3: with a big backsup lex drop in.
Speaker 2: Vader's just he just leaps. He does. It's like a
Speaker 2: variation of Scena's spin out powerboard thing there, and Vader's
Speaker 2: just making noises. Oh my god, is he ever Like
Speaker 2: he's just grunting and groaning. I mean, it's it's hilarious.
Speaker 3: There's on him with the ray trailer right hands it's
Speaker 3: ray trailer and takes off the mask. Of course there's
Speaker 3: whatever ray trailer lands one of those slapping punches. This
Speaker 3: an ouf unimpact aa yep, and it takes off the
Speaker 3: Vader mask and the head gear is tony kind of
Speaker 3: like kind of like that, yeah, except that's Luger.
Speaker 2: Receiving the move.
Speaker 3: Trailer goes, oh, when he hits the guy, that's true.
Speaker 3: That's that is, that is his impact sounds much like
Speaker 3: Race with Right Invader with Oh, there's some moments in
Speaker 3: this one where he goes full Vader. Oh, yeah, totally
Speaker 3: does and the Guardian Angel scoops with a delay and
Speaker 3: slams him in the center of the ring, and Tony says,
Speaker 3: Guardian Angel goes but the credo three strikes and you
Speaker 3: are out, And we cut to Hank Aaron speaking of
Speaker 3: which next to Antonio and President W. W. Bill Shaw
Speaker 3: as Guardian Angel hits the ropes and runs over Vader
Speaker 3: with the lariat and then kicks Vader out to the
Speaker 3: floor goes out after him. Then Torris says, how do
Speaker 3: you know the TV Champion wasn't couldn't couldn't. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: does he really say this? The Champion wasn't convincing disapproval
Speaker 3: over Pearl Heart, wasn't voicing disapproval over Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 2: Oh that soundless something Jesse would say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because Regal was in the ring with a nocchi
Speaker 3: and they were talking about how Regal got run run
Speaker 3: out of the ring justifiably so and and uh Jesse
Speaker 3: suggests hard.
Speaker 2: Or something to do with it. Good.
Speaker 3: Guardian Angel turns and slugs Race another big bump me
Speaker 3: to the floor from the four n W A world
Speaker 3: heavyweight champion. Race showed up in Orlando for one fucking reason,
Speaker 3: and that is to feel his back flare up from trauma. Yep, yes, okay,
Speaker 3: and it's come on, come on, come on, come on,
Speaker 3: come on, come on. Not alive unless he's he's not
Speaker 3: alive unless he's bumping.
Speaker 2: I bumped to live and you're gonna You're gonna bump
Speaker 2: it alive exactly. I bumped to live and I'm not
Speaker 2: dying to night. Bump me, you bitch, come on, come on,
Speaker 2: you fucking asshole. Bump me.
Speaker 3: So screaming it out loud, fucking asshole, awesome fan bump me,
Speaker 3: and Aida ambushes from behind with a big barge and
Speaker 3: then he pops him with the right in the face
Speaker 3: and Guardian Angel falls down. Race lurking and a dark
Speaker 3: green blazer and curly brown nafro blonde afro, looking like
Speaker 3: the security guard that Michael Jackson rolls dice with in
Speaker 3: the last Dance. Referee Jimmy Jett presiding. Guardian Angel goes
Speaker 3: to the apron climbs in Invader is on him.
Speaker 2: To the corner.
Speaker 3: We go and I and I fucking invite you to
Speaker 3: experience the high low coffing blows of one Vader Aida Aida, Ada,
Speaker 3: Ada a correct and then Guardian Ngel starts throwing rights
Speaker 3: and left to counter and they go to the corner.
Speaker 3: In Vader goes off again corner corners reverse whip and
Speaker 3: Guardian Angel hits and Vader does a big barge with
Speaker 3: the chest to chest and puts him down. Vader is
Speaker 3: whistling like crazy for some reason, and they're whistling. I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: should in Vader be the one to have heat with
Speaker 3: an oak, not Steve Regal, considering their respective histories, That's what?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Right.
Speaker 3: Vader goes to the mirror open leaps with a fucking
Speaker 3: sunset flip. What is Vader trying to prove?
Speaker 20: What?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 2: What I means? Seriously, he decided that I guess, I guess.
Speaker 2: You know he's not wrong. He's trying to prove his
Speaker 2: worth to the to the higher up. He's doing fucking
Speaker 2: middle rope sunset flip.
Speaker 3: It is hilarious that he thinks doing sunset flips it's
Speaker 3: going to be the key to prevent him from sinking
Speaker 3: further down the guard I mean, this was like a
Speaker 3: goof doing it fails, and Guardian Angel basically sits on him.
Speaker 3: Vader pokes the eye on the approach and does short
Speaker 3: arm clothesline, killing Guardian Angel, and then Vader kind of
Speaker 3: does a step over toe hold. I don't know what
Speaker 3: that was supposed to be. And Tony says, Vader has
Speaker 3: competed in Japan, so that explains why he's putting this
Speaker 3: move on.
Speaker 2: He says, he just he applies his leg lock and
Speaker 2: there are just a lot of sounds coming from all
Speaker 2: different directions here. It's put on a.
Speaker 17: Record hole a submission, hol right, you know Vader has
Speaker 17: competed in Japan, Tony on no Gate knows him very
Speaker 17: very well.
Speaker 23: Right, Japan, they love the submission, right, Maybe something metricks
Speaker 23: to Antonio.
Speaker 21: Hold on right right now, Vaders and her race pullet
Speaker 21: and break it, pullet and break its Harley race.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, break in, Vader.
Speaker 12: There's just so much going on.
Speaker 2: You cut fucking you got Rachel, Oh my god, ah,
Speaker 2: you gout, fucking Tony Chivanni trying to rationalize a wrestling hold.
Speaker 2: Then you got Harley race bracket.
Speaker 5: Come on, Vader, break heart.
Speaker 3: Bracot and absolue cacaffeany.
Speaker 2: It is just fucking insane. Now to the half Nelson. Also,
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever fucking heard boss Man scream
Speaker 2: like that before.
Speaker 3: You know, a whole few opponents had the size to
Speaker 3: do that to the man. I guess out of the
Speaker 3: half Nelson riding the Guardian Angel is Vader. He goes
Speaker 3: to the keylock gets too and Vader just goes damn it,
Speaker 3: like he doesn't know what to do next. And then
Speaker 3: Guardian Angel goes off with uppercuts from his knees. Vader
Speaker 3: rakes the eye Guardian until starts running in place like
Speaker 3: he's the ultimate warrior. All of a sudden, it's the
Speaker 3: damnedest thing you've ever seen. Vader snatches him of the
Speaker 3: front slam climbs, Vader bomb scores Hard who's the man?
Speaker 3: Well he appeared to be right now Vader, because that
Speaker 3: was one hell of a Vader bomb. Then he goes
Speaker 3: to the middle rope. Then Turu says, the problem is
Speaker 3: he has to take his eyes off his opponent to
Speaker 3: do this one, and what does he do? Does Vader
Speaker 3: come to Orlando to settle for a middle rope Vader
Speaker 3: bomb boss? Or is there is there something else going
Speaker 3: on here?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's it's funny to me because you know,
Speaker 2: in WWE, he never he never connected with the Moon Salt, right.
Speaker 2: It was like, if he goes to the Moon Salt,
Speaker 2: you know he's not going to hit it. I don't
Speaker 2: know why they did that to him, but you knew
Speaker 2: he was never going to hit it, cause he never did.
Speaker 2: But so it always makes me think that he's going
Speaker 2: to miss it in WCW. But that's not the case.
Speaker 2: In WW. They know what to do with him. In WCW,
Speaker 2: they respected what he could do and listen and listen,
Speaker 2: all right. He wants to show the WCW brass that
Speaker 2: he's the main eventor and so he goes up top
Speaker 2: Vader four hundred and fifty pounds of just pure food,
Speaker 2: and then he decides he can sell like a fucking
Speaker 2: He could sell like a food bank shipment. Sound like
Speaker 2: something that rives on the pallet at a food kitchen.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, four hundred and fifty pounds. This guy
Speaker 2: is not right small, and what is and what does
Speaker 2: he do with that fact? What does he do with
Speaker 2: that information? He says, fuck it and he leaps as
Speaker 2: as I mean, it's like watching it's like watching a
Speaker 2: humpback whale fly, Like do do a fucking like a
Speaker 2: dolphin leap in the Battle of the water. That's what
Speaker 2: this is, okay, because the great humpback Vader sores yeah,
Speaker 2: like a bird in the air and crashes down like
Speaker 2: I do not. We all know Vader was not no one.
Speaker 2: He was tough to work with. He was tough to
Speaker 2: work with. He hits you heavy. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't want to know what it felt like to be
Speaker 2: the guy that was receiving the moon salt from Vader,
Speaker 2: because that just cannot be fun.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine sitting on your back and watching him
Speaker 3: go up and like that second before his big ass
Speaker 3: body hits you, you're like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Like the fact that more people don't naturally like either
Speaker 2: roll out of the way or like kind of grab
Speaker 2: their body or whatever, like kind of squish up is amazing.
Speaker 3: Know that they sit there flat for it, and he scores.
Speaker 3: He comes to bash to the beach, climbs to the
Speaker 3: top back right there. That right there is what is
Speaker 3: probably what I love these days about wrestling the most
Speaker 3: is that despite you know, the stiff shots that Vader
Speaker 3: was known for, you trusted him enough that when he
Speaker 3: did something like that, you weren't gonna fucking die, because
Speaker 3: really you should shot. That's probably why WWF. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 3: Freddy land on him. Maybe because he wasn't uh the
Speaker 3: time he got there. He wasn't the spring chicken he
Speaker 3: was in the Vader matches. He he was struggling to
Speaker 3: get around, and I bet it was very hard to
Speaker 3: convince somebody that he had enough control and command over
Speaker 3: his body at that point to land it where you
Speaker 3: wanted him to.
Speaker 2: I guess. I mean he certainly did land it. He
Speaker 2: certainly fucking did it.
Speaker 3: Landed on his feet a couple of times, even landed
Speaker 3: on his feet.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that at all. That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think in the flag match against the Hearts,
Speaker 3: he does it. It's our foundation. So Race gets up
Speaker 3: top because they just basically even though Guardian Angel get
Speaker 3: hit with the moon salt, he certainly doesn't sell it
Speaker 3: like he's dead.
Speaker 2: He's right back up.
Speaker 3: Race gets up top and Gorilla gets Grilla pressed off
Speaker 3: the top rope because hardly Race came here to bump
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Guardian Angel clotheslines Vader out of the ring and Race
Speaker 3: sores to the ropes and bangs his back on the
Speaker 3: steps on the way down. They had the steps kind
Speaker 3: of center to the apron right there in the isisleway. Yeah,
Speaker 3: a couple of guys take that bump, and Race is
Speaker 3: one of them. Guardian Angel out Jode Jackson. Vader hits
Speaker 3: Race back in suplex.
Speaker 2: What the fuck? I mean, what the fuck is that about?
Speaker 10: There?
Speaker 2: It's like taking he's taking sick fucking.
Speaker 3: You don't even see him, like he just fucking He's
Speaker 3: just doing it. But he just doesn't care.
Speaker 2: If they're They're like, I'm sorry, but this just proves
Speaker 2: he has a problem, really really does. This is like
Speaker 2: the ultimate example. He has got a real addiction when
Speaker 2: it comes to bump. Really. You know, most people want
Speaker 2: to you know, take a bump off their fucking you know,
Speaker 2: off their thumb or whatever. But he wants to take
Speaker 2: a bump up for his fucking life.
Speaker 3: Hogan's here, I'm gonna show him show a bump.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I've been bumping my whole life.
Speaker 3: Dan at the bar afterwards, Flers either hardly took more
Speaker 3: bumps in the organ.
Speaker 26: And he did, damn right, I did. I always bomp,
Speaker 26: I bump more than holding more more than anybody. I'm
Speaker 26: gonna bump, bump bump life.
Speaker 3: With someone in front of me who bumps more than
Speaker 3: I do. I dare you, and I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna bump, bump, bump, mamma, bump bump, king the king
Speaker 2: bump fu so uh working on it.
Speaker 3: Guardian Antel souplexx Vader in from the apron big heavy
Speaker 3: lift on the impact hits him, bangs innovator. Vader backs
Speaker 3: into the referee ref sells the shoulder as if he's
Speaker 3: had his shoulder separated here by touching Vader. H Harley
Speaker 3: races that hands Vader the night stick baton, the one
Speaker 3: that flicks out when you flick your wrist yes, and
Speaker 3: Ventor goes, what the hell is that Vader's holding it
Speaker 3: up and Guardian Angel punches the shit out of Vader.
Speaker 3: Tony says, it's those I've never heard of this term.
Speaker 3: What did he say at telecopic night sticks?
Speaker 2: Whatever he said? Gorilla gorilla telescopic telescopic telescopic. I don't
Speaker 2: know if that makes any sense. It does well because
Speaker 2: it extends like a top.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, telescopic. Yes, that is what I meant to type,
Speaker 3: thank you. Yes, the e was left over from those.
Speaker 3: So Guardian Angel has that telescopic night stick, looks to
Speaker 3: the crowd.
Speaker 2: They go nuts.
Speaker 3: They want him to use it. The raff is like,
Speaker 3: what is that? And before he can even use it,
Speaker 3: he calls for the bell and that's our finish. In
Speaker 3: seven minutes fifty eight seconds, Vader defeats the Guardian Angel
Speaker 3: by disqualification. Here Patched at the Beach nineteen and ninety four, Tony.
Speaker 3: He didn't even hit him with it. He's a Guardian
Speaker 3: Angel in Vader.
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Speaker 3: After the Bill clips him from behind, Valariat and then leaves,
Speaker 3: and Guardian Angel gets right up and resumes arguing with
Speaker 3: the referee. I don't know, kind of a shit show
Speaker 3: to me. I'm surprised that Vader perceived this as improving
Speaker 3: his lot. I mean, he was doing well, crazy things,
Speaker 3: but it's a mess.
Speaker 2: They did better later on. I mean they had a
Speaker 2: couple of other matches and there, and they were better.
Speaker 2: This was not their best.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 3: I just felt like it was kind of haphazardly going
Speaker 3: from crash course a crash course, a crash course.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I agree.
Speaker 3: So Race is cackling in the eye along with Vader.
Speaker 2: Van because they would I know, I know they would do.
Speaker 2: Was it a three way at Yes? No, No, it
Speaker 2: wasn't a three way It wasn't a three way at
Speaker 2: at the three way at.
Speaker 3: Fall brawl, him and him and Sting and Trailer, Him.
Speaker 2: And Sting and Trailer.
Speaker 8: But it was.
Speaker 2: It was, uh, the two of them again at Halloween Havoc,
Speaker 2: which was better. That was better their Halloween Havoc match,
Speaker 2: Vader and Garden Angel.
Speaker 3: He's probably congealing all of them together in his memory too.
Speaker 3: Tony says he's the Guardian Angel again. He declined to
Speaker 3: use the object, so that's that's key, and uh yeah,
Speaker 3: Ventur agrees it's referees discretion, even though it's even though
Speaker 3: the object was simply in Guardian Angel's hand and the
Speaker 3: ref didn't see him use it. It still grounds for disqualification,
Speaker 3: if only so. This is where Tony Shavani asks Ventor
Speaker 3: at ringside to comment on Hogan Flair, and Ventura leaves
Speaker 3: him hanging, says, already made my pick, nature boy Rick Flair,
Speaker 3: and he looks away, giving Tony nothing to latch into.
Speaker 3: He wants nothing to do with this time train. It's amazing.
Speaker 3: Tony says, we have behind the scenes situation here. Cruise,
Speaker 3: Chris Cruse, and Mike Tenay are backstage, and and then
Speaker 3: who walks in talking shit? Uh, someone walks in talking
Speaker 3: ship and then they come They cut back to Ventura.
Speaker 3: I wrote Terry, but that's it's not Oh Terry Funk.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 3: He comes in. I Ranton and Raven, but you can't
Speaker 3: hear him. They got him on mute. You can tell
Speaker 3: he's causing chaos on the I mean, listen, listen, you
Speaker 3: let that man in, You're in for trouble, all right.
Speaker 3: He's he's not gonna follow Anyone's not gonna rest until
Speaker 3: what he's I mean, someone, someone's gotta be. Someone's gotta
Speaker 3: have one foot in their grave before he's done. Then
Speaker 3: it'll be happy. Someone needs to be near death, and
Speaker 3: it needs to be because of him. They need to
Speaker 3: be talking about him exactly right. That's what he was
Speaker 3: good at. So Tony plugs the phone number of kids,
Speaker 3: get your parents finished permission, and they'll be commentary of
Speaker 3: the Flair Hogan match on the hot line as well.
Speaker 3: And then they pitched to a lot going on between
Speaker 3: the Roads and the Funk family lately. In WCW they
Speaker 3: talk about Dustin Rhodes having a tremendous match recently against
Speaker 3: Buck House Buck. They take us from April until now,
Speaker 3: a lot of things happened on the different pay per
Speaker 3: views involving Slamboree. Terry Funk gets involved. You can't get
Speaker 3: me out of here, he says, because I won't leave
Speaker 3: egg sucking dog Dusty et cetera. Dusty of course soon
Speaker 3: be involved in the program when I want to be
Speaker 3: Yo Patna and and they have the Big Hug, the
Speaker 3: Big Reunion. This is a great angle. I can whip
Speaker 3: the son of a carpenter. They say he's the son
Speaker 3: of a He's the son of a carpenter. That's what
Speaker 3: Terry Funk says. Bull rope match, Dustin wins that one
Speaker 3: Terry comes out with a branding iron and runs it,
Speaker 3: runs him over with it, and they do like a
Speaker 3: spike pile driver. They kind of fuck up big time,
Speaker 3: but they're doing the big gang warfare beat up with
Speaker 3: Colonel Parker involved as well, until officials hit the ring.
Speaker 3: This leads to Dustin trying to recruit arn Anderson as
Speaker 3: his tag team partner to take on Terry Funk and
Speaker 3: Bunk house Buck, And after a while, arn Anderson decides
Speaker 3: to do it. If I take this match, we're turning
Speaker 3: the hurting around, he tells Dustin Rhodes. My answer is yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll be glad to be your partner. Tony says, so
Speaker 3: Jesse Ventura, no, pardon me. Ventura says, Dustin couldn't pick
Speaker 3: a better guy. If he says he'll stand with you,
Speaker 3: he will go back to back with you. And of
Speaker 3: course Jesse probably knows the hill turn's coming, so he's
Speaker 3: setting that one brother beautifully.
Speaker 2: I remember all this. It's it's funny to me because
Speaker 2: I I knew all the recap because of because of
Speaker 2: Halloween havoc, because I've seen Halloween havocs so many fucking times. Yeah,
Speaker 2: as far as I watched it so many times, and
Speaker 2: so yeah, like I I've seen like they would recap
Speaker 2: the whole fucking thing all the way back to to
Speaker 2: what we're talking about here right before what you just did. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll be your part. Yeah, you know, like and so
Speaker 2: it was just it's always it was kind of weird
Speaker 2: for me because I'm not as familiar with this show
Speaker 2: as I am with Halloween Havoc ninety four, and so
Speaker 2: to see this and kind of see stuff play out
Speaker 2: in real time was kind of like I was like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, yeah, this is what's this is what's happening here?
Speaker 2: Like oh fuck yep, like I forgot about that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 3: It was very much out of the you know, the
Speaker 3: Dusty Saving Flare in eighty five and they closed the
Speaker 3: cage door on them and fuck them over anyway kind
Speaker 3: of psychology. So that's, uh, that's pretty much that we
Speaker 3: do have to deal with this. I don't know what
Speaker 3: this is about. It must have been for the local promotion.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it was for the show. They cut some
Speaker 3: kind of deal with a show that I guess was
Speaker 3: prominent on FM radio the end of the time, called
Speaker 3: the Ron and Ron Radio Show. They said it's red hot,
Speaker 3: and before the matches Tonight began on pay per view,
Speaker 3: there was a very special match where Rondas and Ron
Speaker 3: Bennington from the radio show, involved a guy.
Speaker 2: Named Ron Dias, Ron Diass, Yeah, very.
Speaker 3: Fast, Eddie and Fez Watley, Molly McShane the wrestlers is
Speaker 3: involved female wrestler and they're empty seats in the front row.
Speaker 3: Jimmy Hard is the referee. They would do these like
Speaker 3: Man Cow and a couple Bubba. They would just, you know,
Speaker 3: in exchange forgetting promotion for the show on the most
Speaker 3: listened to Drive TOFF radio show, they would allow the
Speaker 3: DJs to do fucking matches in the dark match.
Speaker 2: It's really stupid.
Speaker 3: But why they put it on the pay per view
Speaker 3: Maybe that was part of the deal.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I have no clue.
Speaker 3: They're running into each other, barely doing anything, and they
Speaker 3: roll up Molly McShane, who was a wrestler for the
Speaker 3: one two three, with Ron Diaz in her corner and
Speaker 3: Jimmy Hart raises her hand. All I can tell you
Speaker 3: about Ron and Ron is this letter that was printed
Speaker 3: in the Tampa Bay Times in nineteen ninety three before
Speaker 3: they were back on the air missing Ron and Ron.
Speaker 3: This is from Al Sason clear Water regarding the Rod
Speaker 3: and Ron morning radio show. So Ron and Ron is
Speaker 3: gone and gone. The Times has shown its approval of
Speaker 3: the change by placing its editorial imprimature on the departure
Speaker 3: by its cartoon depiction of the disinfecting of the Bad
Speaker 3: Boys studio. Admittedly, R and R engaged in a bit
Speaker 3: of blue humor and sarcastic treatment of some of the
Speaker 3: many sexual happenings in this area. Thankfully we won't miss
Speaker 3: their descriptions and references to any of those events since
Speaker 3: The Times, I am sure will continue giving prominence to
Speaker 3: those salacious stories about cops seducing kids or the occasional
Speaker 3: predatory actions of coaches, clergy and medical practitioners. R and
Speaker 3: R strong support of local sports teams, fundraising for the needy,
Speaker 3: support of charities and disadvantaged kids, et cetera, can all
Speaker 3: be taken over by the likes of kindly Rush Limbaugh.
Speaker 3: If Limbaugh's loyal lemmings all buy more of his books,
Speaker 3: t shirts, coffee mugs and newsletters, I am sure he
Speaker 3: would send some of that money to the Bay Area.
Speaker 3: The Bad Boys spoofing of sex, religion, and race is
Speaker 3: easily replaced by Limbaugh's witty bashing of female leaders, liberals,
Speaker 3: black speech, mannerisms, et cetera. I would rather that kids
Speaker 3: listened to R and R than Rush windbag Oops, sorry
Speaker 3: about the R and R humor CBS Blewett. Al Sachs concludes,
Speaker 3: so have some of its other three letter dinosaur brothers
Speaker 3: like ib M, R, C A, and g OP. I
Speaker 3: missed the show, even though my neck is white and
Speaker 3: so are my whiskers. Al Sachs fired up that Ron
Speaker 3: and Ron, which apparently they were sort of like, you know,
Speaker 3: shock jock types. Yeah, one of the top rated, uh,
Speaker 3: one of the top rated morning radio shows in the
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay area throughout the nineties, right up until until this,
Speaker 3: and they would have a lot of you know, innuendo
Speaker 3: and stuff. They're basically doing this, you know, everyone trying
Speaker 3: to do their local stern you know version. Of course,
Speaker 3: a lot of double entendres jokes about menstrual cycles. I'm
Speaker 3: seeing here, you know how it goes in the nineties,
Speaker 3: But that's what they were looking for.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, it's just yeah, awful.
Speaker 3: And Toura thinks Tony could have beaten the Sassy Boys
Speaker 3: who were in the match. Would you be tag team partner?
Speaker 3: Get Lois. He says that Tony Giavanni's wife, who now
Speaker 3: has become kind of a cult figure.
Speaker 2: In her own right, do a shout I know it,
Speaker 2: so that's really funny.
Speaker 3: A shout outs on Tony's podcast, I would have no
Speaker 3: clue watching in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 2: Who the hell?
Speaker 3: Yes, he was talking. No gat Lois shoes better. It's
Speaker 3: the Kid of the Kid now on the Apron with
Speaker 3: one of those ron shirts, and Tony thanks them for
Speaker 3: helping promote Bash of the Beach and says the time
Speaker 3: has come for the tag team the grudge match, if
Speaker 3: you will. Bunk house Buck shows up with the trailer
Speaker 3: and the septic tank. He's going to dump in the
Speaker 3: city storm drain in in National Lampoon's cristification. I mean,
Speaker 3: he looks exactly like Oh he.
Speaker 2: Does look like because he looks like fucking Randy. That's
Speaker 2: got to be what they were going for with this look, man,
Speaker 2: because it's too spot on. I mean, I I really
Speaker 2: I never thought that until watching this show, and I
Speaker 2: wrote that that's crazy. I wrote down that he fucking
Speaker 2: bunk house Buck looks like Randy Quaid.
Speaker 3: Just think, especially like Randy Quaid. Then on this one
Speaker 3: for us both in isolation to think of it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so yeah, Terry Funk comes out crazy as fuck, threatening
Speaker 3: a backhand fans and that that a Chris guy from
Speaker 3: the Garden is there, the Vlad's buddy. They cut to
Speaker 3: him several times playing his role. Now that I realize
Speaker 3: and know to look for him, this resting fan from Manhattan.
Speaker 3: Every time they cut to Summer holding up a page
Speaker 3: of the WCW magazine, it happens to be him. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: that's how it worked. Oh really, that's how it worked.
Speaker 3: A Funker stepping through the ropes, pointing, gesturing, threatening, of course,
Speaker 3: Colonel Robert Parker shaking hands with the referee like it's
Speaker 3: all a formal occasion. JV calls him the Jesse Ventura
Speaker 3: calls him. The Colonel's a gentleman, he says, are an
Speaker 3: interesston In, Dustin Rhodes walk out for pretty cool music.
Speaker 3: They look good out there together as a tag team,
Speaker 3: but it would be short lived. Dustin, of course, with
Speaker 3: that sparkly jacket with the CAC dye and shit on
Speaker 3: it and Arned with the standard teamster's jacket, like he
Speaker 3: just came off the shift. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 3: if you knew this about Dustin Rhoades, but he's not true.
Speaker 8: Did you know?
Speaker 3: That doesn't look like he's on the juice? But it
Speaker 3: does surprise he didn't. I'm said, he didn't have that
Speaker 3: song this time. He's got the natural song. They call
Speaker 3: him not true, not drue, they do. They call them unnatural, unnatural.
Speaker 3: They should have they should have had him have that
Speaker 3: same theme song when he came out of gold dust.
Speaker 3: That's a great idea, first time idea, arn Anderson. The
Speaker 3: only thing he's missing is a thermost and he'd be
Speaker 3: ready to put in a fucking eighteen hour trucking shift.
Speaker 3: So Funk puts the fist stop talking shit right out
Speaker 3: of the gate. In this one threatening the backhand, Ventur
Speaker 3: references Roads and the Funk family and their history, and
Speaker 3: Ventur remembers Funk in a one hour nineteen seventy six
Speaker 3: match he had with him in Seattle soured.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's the one. That's the one that was this
Speaker 2: one hour thing. It wasn't an noch, it was it
Speaker 2: was this thing.
Speaker 3: I can see you looking for that one much more
Speaker 3: than I can see. You try to find the Enoke match. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was like, those are seventy Terry Funk is impossible.
Speaker 3: He had the world title and you can hardly find
Speaker 3: any defenses.
Speaker 2: I know he did wrestle Funk. I did find him
Speaker 2: Jesse Wrestling, but not not to not to a draw.
Speaker 2: He Funk won two out of three falls. Oh really
Speaker 2: and the one that I yeah, the one that I
Speaker 2: found it was I think it.
Speaker 3: Was him going around the country defending the WA world title.
Speaker 3: That's that was right, and go right to Don Owens.
Speaker 3: It's pretty wild and I'd love to see that match
Speaker 3: actually see how that worked back then, I know. So
Speaker 3: Double A and Buck lock up, break Funk standing on
Speaker 3: there a rope barking at arn Anderson. Is that the
Speaker 3: best you got? Trying to get in his head? Buck
Speaker 3: wants Dustin roads, so Double A obliges. Dustin comes in,
Speaker 3: throwing like crazy and knocks down Bunk house Buck and
Speaker 3: the crowd likes it. Terry Funk comes in, gets cut off,
Speaker 3: throws himself into the rail and lunges back into the ring,
Speaker 3: and Dustin just takes it to him all over again.
Speaker 3: Funk getting pushed around and does the plank walk off.
Speaker 3: The apron comes up like he's gonna throw hands at Meng.
Speaker 3: Meng is the big intimidating bodybuilder that would come to
Speaker 3: the ring with the studs table, and he's there and
Speaker 3: is looking like a bouncer with his sunglasses on, and
Speaker 3: Funk is so out of his mind he steps to
Speaker 3: Meng because he thinks he's a foe too, and may
Speaker 3: Men just looks at him, doesn't even lynch fucking hack
Speaker 3: Coo exactly.
Speaker 2: Let's not forget.
Speaker 3: Fucking uh king Tonga body slamming John's stule.
Speaker 2: Right here.
Speaker 3: Lock up to the rope, s Terry Funk chipping away,
Speaker 3: elbow to the head, to the gut, winding big time shots,
Speaker 3: slams Dustin down on the canvas. There's a headlock push
Speaker 3: off and a tackle down goes Dustin Rhoades get up.
Speaker 3: Terry screams as he hits the rope, screaming get up
Speaker 3: the whole time while he's in motion. It's fucking funk.
Speaker 3: And then Dustin Rhodes meets him with slams. He slams
Speaker 3: buck and tosses Terry right out of the ring. Checks
Speaker 3: the referee before he goes out after him.
Speaker 2: That's that's over the top rope, right, is that when
Speaker 2: we sends him over the top. I didn't know if
Speaker 2: it was top rope or not. Well, because they do
Speaker 2: have the you know, you know, Jesse's not a fan
Speaker 2: of that. He goes over the top rope and the
Speaker 2: referee doesn't do nothing.
Speaker 1: Yes, shut up, yeah, shut up?
Speaker 8: Over the.
Speaker 23: Right up to the one.
Speaker 10: Now come, you're up yelling no somebody, Well, any time
Speaker 10: it happens to your favorites, you sit.
Speaker 8: And yell about it.
Speaker 5: Now, when Dustin Rhodes doesn't, you say nothing.
Speaker 17: I think the special circumstances dictate.
Speaker 10: And you call me a politician, yeah you oh yeah, right,
Speaker 10: special circumstances dictate.
Speaker 3: It, Celco.
Speaker 2: He's such a trick. Oh god, special circumstances dictator.
Speaker 3: There's not anything you can say he's Jesse Ventura that
Speaker 3: he won't turn around and say in that exasperated tone of.
Speaker 2: Voice, oh he's gonna buy the salary. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: You told me last week. He doesn't like buying, and
Speaker 3: now he's is he buying Celery? Now, come on, when
Speaker 3: he's not gonna buy it? But the second he buys it.
Speaker 3: There's a problem. So then he says, oh, special circumstances dictated.
Speaker 3: He fuck YOSHEV. We're gonna make exceptions now in an
Speaker 3: equal country. I thought all men were created equal under God.
Speaker 3: I guess the Declaration of Independence of the Bill of
Speaker 3: Rights doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 2: Do you Hey, what happened to due process?
Speaker 18: I have it?
Speaker 2: Do you have it here in the w c W
Speaker 2: I have Tony, I got my union. I got my union.
Speaker 2: I don't need your union, Tony, I've got mine.
Speaker 19: Me.
Speaker 3: Jesse says the Screen Actors Guild. Does that mean Dusty
Speaker 3: the wily veteran doing that with the referee not looking?
Speaker 3: And does it make him a wily veteran? And Tony says, sometimes,
Speaker 3: you know, you got to do what you got to do.
Speaker 3: A man's got to do what a man's got to do.
Speaker 3: And Vandora says, I just want you to remember that
Speaker 3: quote Shavani Shivani's thing in the back of his head.
Speaker 3: You're not long for this world, Jess, So I'll be
Speaker 3: glad to keep it in right.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 3: Funk and Dustin mixing it up, lock up, Funk to
Speaker 3: the waistlock Dustin hits atomic to both members of the opposition,
Speaker 3: and Irish whips bunk House Bunk into Terry Funk in
Speaker 3: the corner and then it lands a downtown right hand
Speaker 3: and then a snap mare and an elbow drop by Dustin.
Speaker 3: Rhodes goes back to the headlock standing, but Funk lifts
Speaker 3: and dumps Dustin tough with a high backsuplex. So let's
Speaker 3: not forget under the lapsed Funk history here that this
Speaker 3: is Terry going back to WCW for the paycheck. When
Speaker 3: he's telling everybody who'll listen on the indies about how
Speaker 3: he's just gonna have to rough it because he can't
Speaker 3: stand being controlled by the big two. And he says
Speaker 3: that before he goes to this WSW and after he
Speaker 3: comes back hilarious, of course that's the Funker Terry and
Speaker 3: all four is jabbing at the head and Dustin comes
Speaker 3: up reaching for anything he can get his hands on
Speaker 3: and spinning around, he gets his hands on bunk house Buck,
Speaker 3: but then bunk house Buck whips Dustin into the ropes
Speaker 3: ducks and Dustin does a flying cross body and you
Speaker 3: know how that goes. When he misses it. He stumbled
Speaker 3: in WCW. He not only crashes to the canvas, but
Speaker 3: he rolls momentum wise under the bottom rope and then
Speaker 3: go down the flight of stairs. Right, that's that's a
Speaker 3: that's a bump the dustin roads decides he's going.
Speaker 2: To take in w CW. I mean, look, I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what the fuck he's thinking.
Speaker 2: I don't know why he's doing that. But man, flight
Speaker 2: of stairs, it is like, you know, and these are
Speaker 2: wooden so sharp edges, they don't they don't look like
Speaker 2: they've been well sanded, you know. I just I mean,
Speaker 2: and that ain't nothing to what fucking steamboat does. It's nuts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those steps are fucking steps tempt people to do things.
Speaker 3: So funks on him in the aisle, goes unto the
Speaker 3: rail men. Tauris's Funk will wrestle in the ring if
Speaker 3: the ring happens to be there, and to cries all
Speaker 3: the garbage that Johnny b Bad left out at ringside
Speaker 3: looks like they're wrestling in a garbage bit. He says,
Speaker 3: whatever a garbage pit is. Uh, Funk kicks the ribs.
Speaker 2: Hey, it looks like they're wrestling in a garbage pit.
Speaker 2: You have one of those in your backyard shown the
Speaker 2: Minnesota thing, Jess Tony, what are you saying about Minnesota?
Speaker 2: You're talking trash. That's funny, you talking garbage pit about Minnesota,
Speaker 2: you bitch.
Speaker 9: Sunday, August third, at noon, the last Fan takes on
Speaker 9: Times Square tickets at Comedy Village dot com. There goes
Speaker 9: the neighborhood.
Speaker 3: You fucking bitch, Funk, you fucking bits the ribs of Dustin.
Speaker 3: Rhodes rolls him back into Bunk house Buck, who rains
Speaker 3: down punishment. Buck digging knees into the kidneys of Dustin
Speaker 3: roads and a camel clutch is applied and he abandons
Speaker 3: it and starts pulling at the hair. Buck then slams
Speaker 3: Dustin and stomps him, puts the abdominal stretch on funky
Speaker 3: yanks on Buck's arm for some extra leverage from the apron.
Speaker 3: Bunk actually waves in Terry and he clubs him. Does
Speaker 3: the funker. Nick Patrick gets in his face over the
Speaker 3: fact that Terry Funk did not tag in, and they
Speaker 3: both win mil the punches felling Dustin. Arnt gets in
Speaker 3: kind of half heartily pretending that he's here to save Dustin,
Speaker 3: but doesn't do much. And then you kind of realize
Speaker 3: at that point not much from Arden so far in
Speaker 3: this match, High No tagged out and just been kind
Speaker 3: of hanging out.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep.
Speaker 3: Terry Funk with a hangman's new neck breaker, rocks Dustin
Speaker 3: roads on a delay, gets a two count, then as
Speaker 3: a pile driver, spiking Dustin into the canvas, and another
Speaker 3: one with a great delay by the Funker. He knew
Speaker 3: how to throw those pile drivers like he really had
Speaker 3: to struggle.
Speaker 2: To get you out, you know, just brutal. Yep, absolutely
Speaker 2: and double.
Speaker 3: He does get in and peel Funk off on the cover,
Speaker 3: back up, headlock, push off tackle. Dustin goes down. Terry
Speaker 3: hits the ropes all wobbly legged and falls off towards
Speaker 3: Bunk house Buck and then flails like a fish to
Speaker 3: make the tag. What a pro Terry Funk is. Buck
Speaker 3: gets his job. He's just making every step count. You
Speaker 3: can't take your eyes off the ring when he's in
Speaker 3: there doing his thing. Bunk house Buck comes in Funk
Speaker 3: still spelling all over the floor.
Speaker 2: At ringside.
Speaker 3: Dustin hits Buck, who swings at the wind, regains and
Speaker 3: dodges back after him, goes back after him, and he
Speaker 3: rams Dustin into the corner. Funk holds Dustin open and
Speaker 3: Bunk goes to work on dust in front, face locked
Speaker 3: by Bunk house Buck, trying to prevent Dustin from making
Speaker 3: any kind of attag. Buck tags Terry Funk, who gets
Speaker 3: all over dustin Roads again. DOUBLEA comes in and grabs
Speaker 3: the ref, like what the hell is going on here?
Speaker 3: Ref backs him up. Dustin trying to fight out of
Speaker 3: the corner, but he's double team because the ref is
Speaker 3: attracted back elbows. He starts hitting back and then finally
Speaker 3: people are going off as he's turning as dustin Roads
Speaker 3: is trying to put together a rally here he throws
Speaker 3: elbows for both. They start doing the big Florida whoa
Speaker 3: who every time he lands yep yeah, and both take
Speaker 3: the bums Dust and then whips Bunk into fuck wait
Speaker 3: a minute, fuck fuck or Buck into Funk and Funk. Hilariously,
Speaker 3: Pratt falls on top of Bunk house Buck all up
Speaker 3: on his legs and shit, he's gone. Funk actually looks
Speaker 3: like he's so absent minded and messed up that he's
Speaker 3: trying to pin Bunk house Buck, and ventre goes he's
Speaker 3: pinning the wrong guy. I just want you to picture
Speaker 3: the disheveled, disoriented manic Terry Funk just like stumbling all
Speaker 3: over the rings such that he ends up on top
Speaker 3: of his own partner in the frakes.
Speaker 2: He's a fucking He's a fucking man. I think that's
Speaker 2: the take home point. He's a fucking man.
Speaker 3: Irish whip Funker goes up and over in a high
Speaker 3: backdrop courtesy of Dustin Roads, who whips Buck in and
Speaker 3: sends him over to he runs Terry Funk into bunk house.
Speaker 3: Terry's walking around like a broken toy in there, flip
Speaker 3: flop and fly from Dustin and tribute to his daddy
Speaker 3: to Terry Funk clothesline. Butck goes up and over the
Speaker 3: top rope, Terry sitting Duck in the center of the
Speaker 3: ring and Irish whip and Dustin hits a jumping clothes line,
Speaker 3: goes for cover number gets one. As Buck comes out
Speaker 3: on top, Dustin cuts him off, crotches him, toss his
Speaker 3: bunk Buck into Funk. Tony says that Dustin wanted it
Speaker 3: to be a one man fight and just have arn
Speaker 3: Anderson his backup, so that explains why Dustin's doing all
Speaker 3: the fighting here, Arn was really only recruited to come
Speaker 3: in if it gets really intense. That's kind of create
Speaker 3: a psychological reason why Arn doing nothing in this match
Speaker 3: is fine by Dustin Rhodes and not already considered a
Speaker 3: betrayal of such. Finally, Torno Parker gets up on the
Speaker 3: apron and boom, Dustin nails him. Finally, the tag from
Speaker 3: Dustin Rhodes to the enforcer who comes in all fired
Speaker 3: up like he's gonna start really handing out beatings to
Speaker 3: Terry Funk and Bunk house Buck.
Speaker 2: And then what does he do? Then? What does arm do?
Speaker 2: As only let's let's let's let's just listen to it, okay, and.
Speaker 5: D Dustin.
Speaker 3: Jesse with a good cell there, ye aren't just DDT's
Speaker 3: the fuck just gets in there like he's like he's
Speaker 3: got the fists up, he's ready to go. And then
Speaker 3: he just immediately without any kind of breaking the plane,
Speaker 3: any kind of change in his countenance, he's turns around
Speaker 3: and DDT's dustint like that's gonna happen now, God damn it,
Speaker 3: and it does. He plants him yep, and spectatic great
Speaker 3: Horseman turn here at a bash of the beach a Horseman,
Speaker 3: member of the Horseman, not not the four Horsemen per se,
Speaker 3: and then again arn Anderson putting Terry Funk on top
Speaker 3: of Dustin Roads four the one, two three, as you
Speaker 3: heard so. In eleven minutes and fifteen seconds, Terry Funk
Speaker 3: and Punk house Buck defeat Dustin Roads and Arn Anderson
Speaker 3: here at Bash of the Beach nineteen ninety four. They're
Speaker 3: all together now, and of course Arn Anderson this forward
Speaker 3: would be part of the stud stable, thus participating in
Speaker 3: the nineteen ninety four Fall Brawl War Games cage match
Speaker 3: where Colonel Parker leaves a little gift for everybody in
Speaker 3: Winston Salem and into a right out of the blue Chavanni.
Speaker 3: Who what a thought? Well, I don't know anybody that
Speaker 3: studied arn Anderson for the past decade. They hold Dustin down,
Speaker 3: and just to get further to the nineteen eighty five angle,
Speaker 3: they break Dustin's arm, just as the Horseman broke Dusty's
Speaker 3: arm in the steel cage in the Omnia nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 3: They do the big group assault angle. Dustin is screaming
Speaker 3: in agony, doing his best sale job. Meng is in
Speaker 3: there stomping too. Parker even hugs the ref, which hilarious,
Speaker 3: like the ref is jubilant.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know right, trying to keep it's just the
Speaker 2: whole thing is just fucking crazy.
Speaker 3: I love doing it, also half doing it to keep
Speaker 3: the ref out of their business.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 3: Finally, things don't calm down until fucking Greg Gania in
Speaker 3: a suit hits the ring. That's all of a sudden.
Speaker 2: I mean that is him, right, That's that is what
Speaker 2: I saw. Yeah, he was one.
Speaker 3: He's working as an agent back then. Can you imagine?
Speaker 2: I mean, just just seeing him come out just makes
Speaker 2: me fucking just wamp wamp, you know, I know he
Speaker 2: seriously is. He's such a fucking Debbie downer just seeing
Speaker 2: him exist as a Debbie Downer and.
Speaker 3: Tour says, and here he was your hero before tonight,
Speaker 3: Shavanni orn Anderson was. There's one guy jumping like crazy heat.
Speaker 2: He was one of your favorites, but not anymore.
Speaker 3: So great, Hey, when they replay the turn, you can
Speaker 3: see one guy right next to the aisle just jumping
Speaker 3: up and down. He's so excited and aren't turned on
Speaker 3: Dustin And uh, that's great. Steff Tony says, was he
Speaker 3: bought off or something? And the nice jaws. Serendipity is
Speaker 3: they use the shark transition effect there.
Speaker 2: It's true. That is true.
Speaker 3: In the aisle, perhaps one of the most disgusting, despicable
Speaker 3: things I have ever seen. Greed has had to have reared.
Speaker 2: It's ugly.
Speaker 3: Had something is a miss Arn, who do you think
Speaker 3: you are? You want to talk to me? Come back
Speaker 3: to the party. Arn says, we're celebrating right now. Jane
Speaker 3: just gives up. Jeane says a bunch of words, a
Speaker 3: true word salad, and pitches to Tony.
Speaker 2: He's such an he's so fucking crazy.
Speaker 3: Tony says, possible broken arm. Here we're dealing with. He
Speaker 3: mentioned Hank, Aaron who gives some waves to the people
Speaker 3: and has no problem with what he just saw. He
Speaker 3: tells everyone he's enjoying himself very much.
Speaker 2: They ask him here, this is just fucking great. He
Speaker 2: doesn't even know who's wrestling Hank. Karen does not give
Speaker 2: a shit.
Speaker 23: Hank, thanks for being here.
Speaker 1: I tell you, we're seeing some great action tonight.
Speaker 2: It's like there and I'm enjoying myself very much.
Speaker 17: In just a few moments, Rick Flair and Halkoga the
Speaker 17: match everybody's been waiting for, who you think's gonna win.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm pulling for both of them, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Hank's gonna run.
Speaker 23: For president in four years.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 2: I'm a great politician.
Speaker 23: Well, Hank, it's always good having you with us here.
Speaker 2: Thank you gram so much. And I'm sure everybody's enjoying themselves.
Speaker 2: I'm happy to be thank you very much.
Speaker 23: Heyk Karen the all time home run champion with us here.
Speaker 23: That's one of our many celebrities on hand.
Speaker 5: So so hit her.
Speaker 2: He didn't try to do what he can.
Speaker 3: Dude, come up, say Hulk Hogan, how hard is that
Speaker 3: governor of Maryland? You should have used him for this? Seriously,
Speaker 3: Tony plugs fall brawl with the tank and everything and
Speaker 3: the match beyond, and they they promise it's going to
Speaker 3: be part of it again this year. As Heenan goes
Speaker 3: on to say the Dustin Rhodes had it coming and
Speaker 3: he should Terry and Company should have beat the whole
Speaker 3: family up. And Dusty's going to bring the pickup truck.
Speaker 3: And he says, Dusty, bring the pickup truck and take.
Speaker 2: Your kid home. And Tony brings up a good point. Boss.
Speaker 3: He says, what do Dustin Roads and Molly McShane have
Speaker 3: him come in this particular evening, and probably Missy Hyatt?
Speaker 8: What is it?
Speaker 3: I don't remember they took on two men at one time. Oh,
Speaker 3: brother Gene is with Flair, with Sherry as well. She's sensuous,
Speaker 3: by the way, not scary anymore.
Speaker 2: No, no, yes, she's definitely the sensuous Sherry.
Speaker 3: He's got the black gloves and the face paint now
Speaker 3: and Slair's got the big gold belt.
Speaker 2: How about double A? Is he back? Rick says? I
Speaker 2: guess he is? Oh, here, here we go.
Speaker 16: Let's listen to Flair, all right, Tony Schavani, I'm with
Speaker 16: Censure with Sherry and the TUBBEDYCW heavyweight Champion of.
Speaker 1: The world with a big smile, a big grin on
Speaker 1: his face.
Speaker 5: Rick Clair, how about double A?
Speaker 23: How about it?
Speaker 5: Is he back? I guess the Dustin Rhodes. What's he
Speaker 5: gonna do with double A? Runs wild?
Speaker 16: You've got other things to contemplate tonight the biggest match
Speaker 16: of your career, Rick Clair, There is no doubt about it.
Speaker 16: Standing pie on the wings to challenge you for this title.
Speaker 16: It's none other than Haulkogan.
Speaker 20: I walked in the door, they said, Natum, rick as
Speaker 20: Ow standing room only, Dusty Hogan and Flair go at
Speaker 20: it for this, I said, boys, that's just.
Speaker 23: The way the hookster and the next.
Speaker 10: You want waters, we want it sold out, we want
Speaker 10: it live, We want a worldwide.
Speaker 23: Dignitaries from all points of the world are here.
Speaker 5: And Noocchi, Hey, Garon Herbard, Hey, Thankes, Sjaq, you and
Speaker 5: the they're all here.
Speaker 27: But to the why, because the greatest of all time
Speaker 27: is gonna walk do aisle and tonight the importal ones
Speaker 27: because history rites.
Speaker 5: Said to us one.
Speaker 23: Yes, right, Gene Oakland.
Speaker 5: For years and.
Speaker 1: Years you've been saying to be the man, you got
Speaker 1: to beat the man.
Speaker 5: Rick Flair is always the man. Rick Flair has nothing
Speaker 5: to prove.
Speaker 23: You, Hulk Hogan are the challenger.
Speaker 1: You, Hulk Hogan, are the one that had a failing career.
Speaker 1: You Hulk hogans have to beat the man to be
Speaker 1: the man.
Speaker 20: We are lives right, kiss Stealing Wheeling, Galas win us
Speaker 20: and Champions of the w C.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: It's great promo. It is a good promo. Excited.
Speaker 3: That's the kind of thing they should have put on
Speaker 3: TBS before the show. Yeah, agreed, So steamboats music hilarious.
Speaker 3: I know his w W music is very odd hard
Speaker 3: it'djust to yeah, no, man, hold on, I can do.
Speaker 3: I gotta I listen to it because it's it has
Speaker 3: a it's very it is very weird here. I guess
Speaker 3: it's called opening ceremony.
Speaker 2: Monimaima boom boom boom MANI bom boom boom boom boom
Speaker 2: boom boom boom boom boom ba boom boom boom boom
Speaker 2: boom boer purper bo bur purperer bo.
Speaker 18: Boom.
Speaker 2: It's weird. Yeah, it's a manimum. It takes a lot
Speaker 2: to get used to. Yeah, it's not it's not, it's
Speaker 2: not very This is a.
Speaker 3: Point when you know he's fucking Ricky steamboat. He was
Speaker 3: Ricky Steamboat to the Max in eighty nine. For you guys,
Speaker 3: he was Rocky Steamboat to the Max in mid Atlantic
Speaker 3: before ever going to events. You don't have to have
Speaker 3: him come back wearing the fucking dragon costume.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, i'll tell you what. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: I I don't mind the wings as long as he's
Speaker 2: not wearing the fucking headdress. The headdress is really the worst.
Speaker 15: Like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's weird, like he's bringing his WWE thing. Basically,
Speaker 2: it's very it's very pathetic. It's kind of like bringing
Speaker 2: ray trailer in calling him the boss. It's like, really,
Speaker 2: I know, I mean it's it's just it's weird that
Speaker 2: he's you know, they're bringing in like everything. But because
Speaker 2: he's he wears the shoulder things, he wears the little
Speaker 2: medallion on the on the chest. He's just not wearing
Speaker 2: the stupid fucking hat, which I'm grateful for because the
Speaker 2: hat's the worst part of it all. I can deal
Speaker 2: with a little, with a little, you know, a little
Speaker 2: costume here and there. You know. It's the wings aren't
Speaker 2: as bad as they were in w They're they're shorter
Speaker 2: than they were, so again, not as bad. I do
Speaker 2: like the tights. I think the tighter is the best.
Speaker 2: I like the tights. I've always liked those.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like him too. But he's got the torch.
Speaker 3: He's blowing fire. It's worldan what it's concerning, Tony says,
Speaker 3: fitting on a night like this, that Ricky steamboat get
Speaker 3: a title shot. That guy from New York I mentioned
Speaker 3: from before, He's got the Steamboat magazine, page wide open
Speaker 3: for the cameras, and Ricky does the fire breathing, and
Speaker 3: I don't know if Bonnie's at Ringsidne. I don't know
Speaker 3: if he's still even with her at this point, but
Speaker 3: they kind of cut to somebody makes me think it's
Speaker 3: it's his wife. Bobby Heenan calls Ricky Steamboat a human
Speaker 3: bic as in a lighter. And here comes Austin to
Speaker 3: the Hollywood Blondes music and tin.
Speaker 2: Pank sing kang kang.
Speaker 25: Ye?
Speaker 2: What a walk? What a hair? What ahead of hair
Speaker 2: he's got? He's you know, the Austin Steamboat feud one
Speaker 2: of the most memorable. I mean because this is when
Speaker 2: I I said, this is when I started watching WW
Speaker 2: much more regularly, and so this was the feud this
Speaker 2: was for me. Austin Steamboat is one of the w
Speaker 2: CW feuds, no question, you know, quintessential yep, And it was.
Speaker 2: And I love their matches and yeah, it's really it's
Speaker 2: this few that made me a fan of Steve Austin.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is what puts on display how much of
Speaker 3: a three tool blayer he was? Five tool whatever I'm
Speaker 3: going to say, Yeah, yeah, really great stuff. Title on
Speaker 3: his waist US title smirk, the eyes wild to like
Speaker 3: kind of just trying to picture his hair being shaved off.
Speaker 3: This is actually, you know, I thought of stunning. Steve
Speaker 3: Austin is just appearing so visually distinct from Stone Cold.
Speaker 3: But when I watched this, I like, I can see
Speaker 3: him maybe it's gonna get the black trunks on.
Speaker 2: He's also got a little bit of that Stone Cold
Speaker 2: swaggers is what it is. Yeah. Yeah, he's kind of
Speaker 2: doing a little bit more of that. He's he's not
Speaker 2: just you know, the the you know, pretty boy character.
Speaker 2: He's a little bit more badass, like I don't give
Speaker 2: a shit. Yep.
Speaker 21: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And for him, as we know, it would only be
Speaker 3: a matter of time before the FedEx envelopes in the
Speaker 3: mail from Bischoff and he is fired amidst an injured
Speaker 3: arm and all kinds of static And this is, you know,
Speaker 3: no excuses. He's he's he's performing his ass off. He's
Speaker 3: got the black trunks look down. At least he's got
Speaker 3: the rap going. You know, if you didn't see money
Speaker 3: in Steve Austin, then you probably don't deserve to have
Speaker 3: a decision making position in the wrestling business.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't be what exactly you should not be behind
Speaker 2: the scenes wrestling because this he's he looks like a'm
Speaker 2: fucking money player here. Yep.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and you know it would it would follow Austin
Speaker 3: as far as how he felt about Hulk Cogen. It
Speaker 3: starts here and it carries all the way to O
Speaker 3: two when they refused to work with him when he
Speaker 3: came in. Yeah, they're vitalized, nWo. And all those years later,
Speaker 3: Hulk sits down with a stone cold for his podcast
Speaker 3: and Austin traces it right back to ninety four.
Speaker 22: You're immediately you know, you don't need to be shined up.
Speaker 22: But I mean, in theory you're the baby face, but
Speaker 22: but you don't need to be shined up. You're fighting
Speaker 22: from underneath the entire match.
Speaker 5: It made sense.
Speaker 28: It was there from the moment we walked in the rings,
Speaker 28: such as it would have been there if you would
Speaker 28: have ever wrestled me. That's what would have happened. It
Speaker 28: would have been we could have looked at each other
Speaker 28: and the roof would have blown off the place. You
Speaker 28: were so over at the time, and they hated me
Speaker 28: so much from trying to put w W out of
Speaker 28: business for ten years. They would have been great. But
Speaker 28: I'll get off that now. We'll get that's in my
Speaker 28: craw brother, that I never got to work with you, dude.
Speaker 22: I was in such a different headspace back when that
Speaker 22: window of opportunity presenting yourself, and sometimes I kicked myself
Speaker 22: in the ass over it. And I think, man, I
Speaker 22: don't know, I just kind of I was so frazzled
Speaker 22: towards the end. I was just in a bad space
Speaker 22: and I don't know, I just it never happened, and
Speaker 22: it should have happened. But you know what, what I
Speaker 22: think if we could have just gotten in a room,
Speaker 22: you and I and just just just talked, because you
Speaker 22: know what, you probably never told you probably never knew this,
Speaker 22: But I was down. And we're gonna jump back to
Speaker 22: a little bit of you know stuff back in the
Speaker 22: early days of WWF. But you remember when you had,
Speaker 22: you know, those headline, those eight seven out of eight
Speaker 22: WrestleManias down then down there in WWF. You left, man,
Speaker 22: what ninety three ninety two, but you ended up in
Speaker 22: ww You ended up in WCW in ninety four, Yeah,
Speaker 22: ninety four, Okay, I remember all of a sudden the
Speaker 22: word on the street. I'm starting, Steve Man, I'm I'm upcoming.
Speaker 22: I'm gonna be the next Ric Flair. Well, we always
Speaker 22: know that there's never gonna be another Rick Flair, There's
Speaker 22: never gonna be another hun Kogan. There's only gonna be
Speaker 22: the next whoever you are. But all of a sudden,
Speaker 22: here comes the biggest attraction in the history of the business.
Speaker 2: To w CW.
Speaker 22: And I'm thinking, great. And you know, I'm sitting there
Speaker 22: right across from you, wearing your house and I say
Speaker 22: this with respect because I've respected your career, but I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 22: here comes the top of traction in the world. He's
Speaker 22: coming to w c W. I was fine when you
Speaker 22: were in WWL, but all of a sudden you come
Speaker 22: down there, and now I'm another nice father down the letter.
Speaker 22: And I always had this grudge against you because now
Speaker 22: you know you were the guy. Now, how am I
Speaker 22: going to overtake this when I can't even get past
Speaker 22: you know, three quarter mid cart status.
Speaker 23: So there was always that grudge, and it was competitive.
Speaker 22: I was like, man, why is this guy here?
Speaker 5: Now? Well, I know why you're here.
Speaker 22: Now, you know, in retrospect, when I look when I
Speaker 22: look back, but when you're in the trenches and you're
Speaker 22: in the ring here and there's that competitive part. You
Speaker 22: watch NBA players or Major League Baseball players, NFL players
Speaker 22: talk about another player, they'll they'll put them over to
Speaker 22: a degree, but it's never very much because it's so competitive.
Speaker 22: The same with our business. Just back when I was
Speaker 22: I would say, talk about Sewn Michaels. These days, I
Speaker 22: call him the greatest entering performer of all time as
Speaker 22: far as execution and being able to do everything. Back
Speaker 22: in the day, a.
Speaker 2: High spot artist.
Speaker 22: You know, that was my perception back in because I
Speaker 22: couldn't put him over then, and so anyway, it was
Speaker 22: always this thing. And then all of a sudden I
Speaker 22: turned into stone cold, and then you come back from
Speaker 22: w CW where I got squashed down another notch. But
Speaker 22: I think if we'd have ever gotten to a room
Speaker 22: and had a just a chill conversation, we probably could
Speaker 22: have done business together, and that'd probably be one of
Speaker 22: the I guess it is one of the biggest regrests
Speaker 22: of my career.
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Speaker 3: So he says a lot there, basically, you pissed you
Speaker 3: pissed me off, and that's why I didn't want to
Speaker 3: work with you.
Speaker 2: But uh, what could have been?
Speaker 3: I mean, I know, if he could have, if he
Speaker 3: could have lobbied to work with he had been like
Speaker 3: a like a Paul Orndorf opponent to hul Coke, and
Speaker 3: potentially I feel.
Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah, oh in uh in in w c W.
Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah, absolutely, I mean that that would have been.
Speaker 2: That would have been huge, huge, But I for everybody, you.
Speaker 3: Know, Hacksaw Jim Duggan's attached to Hull Cochin at the
Speaker 3: hip from the very beginning on this show. He's one
Speaker 3: of the people that welcomes Hulk in the back. And
Speaker 3: it would be Hacksaw Jim Duggan that would totally run
Speaker 3: over Steve Austin in four seconds to take this US
Speaker 3: title from him. And that's when we knew it was
Speaker 3: curtains for Steve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the.
Speaker 3: Drama follows the drama that starts here in nineteen ninety
Speaker 3: four between Hull Coke and Steve Austin. Most of course
Speaker 3: on the Steve Austin side. I'm sure Hulk big league
Speaker 3: Steve just like a big league just about anybody else
Speaker 3: that was perceived as you know, being upper crust before
Speaker 3: he got there. We go to WWF and it still
Speaker 3: doesn't happen.
Speaker 28: A lot of people don't realize that certain.
Speaker 3: This is Hulk trying to explain why people would have
Speaker 3: felt like he big leagued them, but of course he
Speaker 3: had no He's just you don't know what's going on
Speaker 3: in hul Cochin's head. He's got a lot of stresses
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 28: A lot of people don't realize that certain You got
Speaker 28: to treat people on a case by case basis, and
Speaker 28: certain people have a grudge or a heart on, or
Speaker 28: they don't misunderstand, or they're out of their mind, or
Speaker 28: they're consumed with something because it could be business or personal,
Speaker 28: or a lady could drive you crazy your fee. You
Speaker 28: just don't know what's going on. And when I went
Speaker 28: down to WCW, I had some personal stuff at home
Speaker 28: that I would walk down the hallway and there would
Speaker 28: be twenty people in the hallway and I didn't see anybody.
Speaker 28: I was out of my mind. I was so worried
Speaker 28: about my home life and the problems I were having
Speaker 28: at home. That you know, stuff happened, and I don't
Speaker 28: mean to call anybody out, but stuff happened, for instance,
Speaker 28: where I was and maybe this was in the WWF
Speaker 28: for whatever it was. When I went back for the raw,
Speaker 28: I was fifteenth anniversary. But I walked in the dress
Speaker 28: room there and there was a guy there named cm Punk.
Speaker 28: I didn't know who he was, and I heard I
Speaker 28: had heat because when I came back, I didn't say,
Speaker 28: oh it doing when I walked through the hall. But
Speaker 28: I remember that night flying in with RVD from California,
Speaker 28: and I was going through so much crap on the
Speaker 28: phone when I landed, and my whole life was falling
Speaker 28: apart from home that when I walked through that dress room, Brother,
Speaker 28: all I could think about was I just need to
Speaker 28: get home and fix my life falling apart. And I
Speaker 28: don't remember seeing meeting, talking or disrespecting anybody that day,
Speaker 28: but I had to live with that because I was
Speaker 28: in that space at the.
Speaker 2: Time, you know.
Speaker 28: So I went to the WWE and I knew I
Speaker 28: was working with the rock. I'm all about making the money, brother,
Speaker 28: and as a heel. I could put anybody over and
Speaker 28: go back the next week, say stone Hold never beat me.
Speaker 28: I mean I could lie in my ass off. So
Speaker 28: and so when I got the reaction I had with
Speaker 28: the rock, my sites were set on you.
Speaker 2: Of course they were.
Speaker 3: But now Steve is in the position to flip it
Speaker 3: around on you from what you did in WW and
Speaker 3: so fuck you. How about that exactly? That's what happens.
Speaker 2: You made your pal.
Speaker 3: And the fact that Austin dude people to do that too.
Speaker 3: I make Heathers Clem's bed. But and the fact that
Speaker 3: Hulk Cogin's in ming WWW. Steve Austin is cooking with
Speaker 3: a Rickeys steamboat and underneath this just.
Speaker 2: Fascinating to me.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he attacks a steamboat from behind as steamboats
Speaker 3: just getting ready and getting his gear off and hauling
Speaker 3: off of those wide right hands. His stunning Steve, Oh yes,
Speaker 3: he is good. Throw from way downtown and.
Speaker 2: Again just totally underrated as this as this particular character.
Speaker 3: Absolutely driving his knee into the draped knee of Ricky
Speaker 3: steamboat steam but of course comes back with chops.
Speaker 2: Out of the corner. You know the drill.
Speaker 3: You know, a steamboat comes back against the ropes. Austin
Speaker 3: has dragon Slayer written on white letters and his black trucks.
Speaker 2: I love the dragon Slayer and Tights give it to
Speaker 2: me all day, every day, twice on Sunday, you mother
Speaker 2: fucking bit love it.
Speaker 3: Austin keeps sick, sticking the knee, kicking the knee out
Speaker 3: when Steamboat tries to launch a comeback, step over toe
Speaker 3: hold kind of deal, and Steve Austin gets kicked off
Speaker 3: into the ring post, and Tony is ticking off all
Speaker 3: the titles that Steve Austin has won.
Speaker 2: Oh this is no, no, no, it's it's what Steamboats won.
Speaker 2: This is fucking hilarious. Fucking Heaton chimes in.
Speaker 17: Steamboat's first title was the television title, and he bet
Speaker 17: Rick Flair.
Speaker 23: To become the television champion years ago. He's been the
Speaker 23: World heavyweight champion.
Speaker 17: Eight times, the World tag team Champion, US Champion on
Speaker 17: many occasions.
Speaker 23: Who he hit the ring posts? One of the greats
Speaker 23: in our sport.
Speaker 2: What do you do right?
Speaker 5: Resumes for Steamboat.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 2: How defeated is no?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, he's so defeated, says He's saying all
Speaker 3: these things for the benefit of fans watching for the
Speaker 3: first time. So there course telling themselves that a lot
Speaker 3: of people are watching for the first time. You know,
Speaker 3: they might be watching WCW for the first time, but
Speaker 3: I don't think they're completely unfamiliar with Rickey Steamboat.
Speaker 2: I could be wrong, Yeah, yeah, I mean they should
Speaker 2: know who, you know what Rocky Steamboats at.
Speaker 3: Any fan that Hulk brings w Stebby for the first
Speaker 3: time is gonna know who Rocky Steamboat is. So Steamboat
Speaker 3: walks the ropes and rains down an ax handle and
Speaker 3: slams Austin on the hammer lock. Tony says that our
Speaker 3: Colonel Parker was, of course, formally Steve Austin's Managerbert Parker
Speaker 3: thought he was best suited Austin was to be on
Speaker 3: his own. So that's that's interesting. I never really sat
Speaker 3: sat and thought about how those two separated, and I
Speaker 3: guess there wasn't anything formal or a big angle or anything.
Speaker 3: It's just they drifted apart.
Speaker 2: I guess to the corner they.
Speaker 3: Go, Austin hits the gut back yelbow, Steamboat chops out
Speaker 3: of the corner. Austin goes to the middle rope inverted,
Speaker 3: and Steamboat hits a drop kick, and Austin gets hung
Speaker 3: upside down on the rope. Steamboat goes to the floor
Speaker 3: and slams the right hand and steve Austin's head. Austin
Speaker 3: can't go anywhere. He's trapped in the tree of woe.
Speaker 3: And then Austin, even here hits the.
Speaker 2: Ca a weird one. It's weird. It's over the apron
Speaker 2: right right, good point, like it's not it's not the
Speaker 2: tree of woe like normal. It's like he's outside the ring.
Speaker 2: It's very bizarre.
Speaker 3: He's very much in a tree of woe. Yes, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: we can lowercase the term. And Austin is flailing about,
Speaker 3: even hits the cameraman and makes it foggy and streaks
Speaker 3: the lens a little bit because he's flailing about so much.
Speaker 3: And then Austin gets the referee and stumbles down into
Speaker 3: the robes with no control whatsoever. Steamboat tucks in a
Speaker 3: book or t like standing sidekick, and then h's an
Speaker 3: arm drag, puts on the arm wringer. The whip is
Speaker 3: reversed over and over again, but finally Ricky Steamboat kicks Austin.
Speaker 3: Kind of an awkward cross up there. They have a
Speaker 3: few moments in this match, kind of like that Steamboat
Speaker 3: floors him with a chop and puts on an armbar
Speaker 3: in Austin slapping the shoulder as you have to do, right.
Speaker 2: We talked about that. Just physically it's important. I mean, listen,
Speaker 2: you need to get the blood flowing. Ye okay, that's
Speaker 2: what matters his whole coach.
Speaker 3: He says he understands that hul Coging's dressing room right
Speaker 3: now was jammed with security. Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 2: He says.
Speaker 3: There's got to be five hundred people back there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: most of them are signed to one for sting. Austin
Speaker 3: tries to leap frog and collapses, clutching the knee that
Speaker 3: had been worked on, and Tony recognized it is an
Speaker 3: old Hollywood blonde trick to pretend to feign a knee injury,
Speaker 3: and indeed he was right. He says, they should give
Speaker 3: him a twenty minute rest here for the.
Speaker 2: This is fucking great.
Speaker 1: That's an old Hollywood blod trick.
Speaker 23: We Steamboat doesn't realize that.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 15: The fans here no why he was just hung upside
Speaker 15: down while the pressure was on his knee.
Speaker 23: Now they should give him about a twenty minute rest here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what why it happened outside the ring?
Speaker 2: Okay, Hemp and outside the ring it makes sense, I agree.
Speaker 3: Steamboat says fuck it and stops taking it easy and
Speaker 3: stomps him in the corner. Austin talking up a storm.
Speaker 3: In the process, Colin spots hip toss drop kick. Austin
Speaker 3: falls to the floor and Flare flops down on the outside.
Speaker 3: He is pointing to his knee indicating it it's hurt.
Speaker 3: He says he's not playing possum. His knee is hurt,
Speaker 3: and Austin stands and does a time out gesture.
Speaker 2: I think that was Ruth.
Speaker 3: Blay on the hardcam side. Later on, Hulk does say,
Speaker 3: indeed his parents were in attendance, and I think you
Speaker 3: catch a quick glimpse of them here. At this moment,
Speaker 3: Austin drags Wicky Steamboat out, chip away, and Tony starts
Speaker 3: and chops away, and Tony starts going okay, now, as
Speaker 3: they're hitting hard and Steamboat chops, he says it must
Speaker 3: be a trick mee on Steve Austin, that's right, Trickney.
Speaker 3: As Austin runs like a cry baby back into the
Speaker 3: ring with absolutely no mobility problems whatsoever. And uh he's
Speaker 3: got his speedback. Imagine, okay, see Austin flying around the ring.
Speaker 3: You see him just like a springing human super bowl
Speaker 3: in there. I'm to consider a Steve Austin who could
Speaker 3: run like this, a stone cold Steve Austin, and WWF
Speaker 3: who could listen.
Speaker 2: That's that's all we dream about. Okay, that's all we
Speaker 2: ever wanted. We wanted in Austin who could be a
Speaker 2: bad ass but also do the fucking work that he
Speaker 2: was doing during this time. This is this is the magic.
Speaker 2: This is where it all fucking mattered. He was the
Speaker 2: most to appreciated member of the roster in many ways.
Speaker 2: I might disagree with that. I don't care. I think
Speaker 2: he was totally just misused in w CW he could
Speaker 2: have been. I mean, listen, I'm grateful that he that
Speaker 2: he was misused, you know, because I mean would have
Speaker 2: never gotten Steve Austin.
Speaker 3: Are you excited when he came over as ringmaster?
Speaker 2: Fucking thrilled, thrilled. I when I saw him, when I
Speaker 2: when I recognized that it was Steve Austin, I said,
Speaker 2: holy shit, the earliest boss index here, all right, I said,
Speaker 2: now that we're because because because this was one of
Speaker 2: the first times in a long time that a w
Speaker 2: CW guy came over w W A, yeah, I said,
Speaker 2: we got him now, Steve Austin.
Speaker 3: Steve Austin such as he was then, fucking fucking.
Speaker 2: Ring Master Steve Austin. I was like, all right, because
Speaker 2: because you know, with Hogan gone, I mean I even
Speaker 2: I did sense like I had fear, you know, because
Speaker 2: as much as I was happy to see Holkogan, I
Speaker 2: was still thrown through a WW guy. You know, that
Speaker 2: was my home and so without without Hogan there, it
Speaker 2: still made me nervous, you know. But when Steve Austin
Speaker 2: came over in ninety five or early ninety six, whatever
Speaker 2: it was, I was like, yeah, okay, all right, we're
Speaker 2: good now. I don't know why, but like it just
Speaker 2: I was convinced she was.
Speaker 3: I mean, after a savage you know, it's like in
Speaker 3: Boss Man and stuff, It's like, yeah, this is just
Speaker 3: like they're all abandoning me, hacksaw.
Speaker 2: Right exactly, like everyone's going over there right. It was
Speaker 2: a very you know, it was very hard because I'm like,
Speaker 2: these are guys who are supposed to be WB guys. Right, like,
Speaker 2: what's happening here? Why is everyone leaving me?
Speaker 3: Took it very per and you thought, wwfoot, there must
Speaker 3: be something wrong with them. They can't attract any anybody
Speaker 3: right and right and not only here. And what he
Speaker 3: does with this opportunity changes everything forever. Austin, Austin, Austin, Okay, yes,
Speaker 3: not very complicated. It's not the answer to most questions
Speaker 3: you have about the business, Austin. Yes, So he runs
Speaker 3: over the drop down twice and into the sleeper hold.
Speaker 3: Then he pushes Austin into the corner. Does Steamboat school
Speaker 3: Boy gets to heenan does that great noise where he's
Speaker 3: like clenching his teeth hoping the heel doesn't lose, yes,
Speaker 3: betraying it. He was nervous for a second. Then steam
Speaker 3: Beat snatches the arm bar. They do a panding shot
Speaker 3: of the capacity crowd. Tony's wsw's but the world is
Speaker 3: watching now? So that's how they he fucking says that
Speaker 3: that's before the where the big boys play slogan what
Speaker 3: the world is watching now?
Speaker 2: They took w's slogan, okay, and they said what the
Speaker 2: world is watching now?
Speaker 3: Because if WWF is what the world was watching when
Speaker 3: hul Cogan was there, and we have hul cog and
Speaker 3: it only makes sense.
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking you will say, what the world's washing?
Speaker 3: Brother, It's just say back in New York, brothers, what
Speaker 3: the world's watching. We'll guess what, brother, w W that's
Speaker 3: what the world's watching now, dude, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, I'm washing it.
Speaker 8: What so.
Speaker 3: Bigs here his hair like moving when he when he
Speaker 3: goes right exactly to the corner of Austin kicksteam boat
Speaker 3: and the balls. Uh, he didn't say, there goes that
Speaker 3: trick knees trick.
Speaker 2: Me, my god, the fucking trick me every fucking time.
Speaker 3: And sometimes it goes the other way. Sometimes it goes
Speaker 3: to the side.
Speaker 2: You never know what something like that.
Speaker 3: Austin hits a high back. Suplex says, my arm is
Speaker 3: starting to feel a little better. He says that out loud,
Speaker 3: which is funny. Tony's like the knee. Huh, how about
Speaker 3: the knee? He didn't says, you never know when that
Speaker 3: will that'll flare up again. It's keeping that in his
Speaker 3: back pocket. Oh god, I just I just love him
Speaker 3: whipping back fantastic.
Speaker 2: Hilariat.
Speaker 3: Ricky steamboat keeps bouncing up and Steve Austin keeps knocking
Speaker 3: him down. Steamboat gets up and rolls out through the ropes,
Speaker 3: over the steps to the floor. Another guy using the
Speaker 3: steps there, everyone doing that bump.
Speaker 2: Tonight everyone, I mean that fuck and again I think
Speaker 2: I think steamboat doing it was just ridiculous, and.
Speaker 3: He Steamboat didn't miss a step. That is true to
Speaker 3: the apron.
Speaker 2: They go.
Speaker 3: Austin with a high vertical suplex brings Steamboat back in
Speaker 3: the hard way for two backsuplex, Steamboat lands gooseles and
Speaker 3: throws Steve Austin down to the canvas. That was always
Speaker 3: great when steamboat just exploded and just snatched it by
Speaker 3: the throat and showed unlikely strength. Stacks him up to
Speaker 3: steamboat after the impact and gets to Heenan lets out
Speaker 3: a ha at the prospect of Austin nearly losing.
Speaker 2: What a powerful thing.
Speaker 3: Bobby Heenan with the flare style rooting interest for Steve Austin.
Speaker 2: Yes, only makes sense. I mean it does. It does
Speaker 2: make sense. I mean it makes it. You know, you
Speaker 2: wonder did it has something to do with the idea
Speaker 2: that he was being ex Rick Flair the right the
Speaker 2: next Ric Flair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think so back up on an Irish whip.
Speaker 3: See b Austin ducks Ricky's team belt with an arm drag,
Speaker 3: and watch Austin.
Speaker 2: To be too.
Speaker 3: He's too far from the ropes here for a second.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think with heenan relative to the next
Speaker 3: Wick Flair, I think it's interesting that that point is
Speaker 3: made because you gotta remember, Hult comes in and undoes
Speaker 3: all that hype about Flair Austin, Right, It's not like,
Speaker 3: you know, it's not like only in retrospect we realize
Speaker 3: he had the potential to be something like that. They
Speaker 3: were actively saying when he was in WCW that he
Speaker 3: had that potential, right, and Hogan comes in and big
Speaker 3: foots all over it. In Austin is an absolute nothing instantly,
Speaker 3: And we're supposed to not believe that part of Hult
Speaker 3: Cogan's mission, of the thousands of missions he had in WCW,
Speaker 3: wasn't to sideline or relegate Steve Austin to lower status.
Speaker 3: I mean, give me a break. They weren't blind to
Speaker 3: that side. They were promoting it. He was the US champion,
Speaker 3: he was having singles programs, He wasn't a tag wrestler anymore.
Speaker 3: The promos, were.
Speaker 2: There, fucking US champion for God's sake, like he was?
Speaker 5: He was?
Speaker 2: He was it.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, he was the guy. Absolutely. If you look closely
Speaker 3: next to some of the new Japan representatives around Anoch
Speaker 3: in the audience, you will see in a tuxedo, my
Speaker 3: friend senior consultant to World Championship Wrestley One, Jimmy motherfucking Barnett.
Speaker 2: Really I missed that?
Speaker 3: Yes, oh ship hard to spot, but he is there,
Speaker 3: and he's he's he's observing because Sterling is back.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you, I'm so nervous. I can't. Sterling, Oh
Speaker 2: my god, so long. You look so good. You look fantastic.
Speaker 2: Can I touch? Did you lean out? You're looking finn
Speaker 2: but in a good way. Don't get me read I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: I don't know you eat? Are you eating food? It's hot, Sterling.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you. You know here we are right, you
Speaker 2: know were we're sitting in the w C W and
Speaker 2: I just I can't handle it. I just can't. They
Speaker 2: want me, you understand, they're asking me to book. I
Speaker 2: can't exactly. It's too much. I'm drinking again. He's so
Speaker 2: stressed out.
Speaker 3: So with Steamboat driving these into the arm on the canvas.
Speaker 3: They do it over the shoulder shot of Tony and
Speaker 3: Heenan calling the action, and Tony points out that's the brain,
Speaker 3: by the way, because they can see themselves on the monitor,
Speaker 3: and Heenan says, and that's the other part of the anatomy.
Speaker 3: And you can see Tony's shoulders shaking with a chuckle
Speaker 3: even though.
Speaker 2: It's backs to the car.
Speaker 3: My god, that's fantastic, Tony says. Ricky Steamboat likes matches
Speaker 3: to go long time because he's got the conditioning edge.
Speaker 3: He's got conditioning, unlike this crowd. They're boring. Chances starting
Speaker 3: to trickle through.
Speaker 1: They're wrong.
Speaker 2: It'll obliged to mention that they're wrong. They're dead wrong.
Speaker 3: But you heard them right, not just shaking them up. Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I know back.
Speaker 2: They don't understand what they're watching. That's the problem.
Speaker 3: There, you go, Austin pushes off Ricky Steamboat into a
Speaker 3: tackle up and over and they do it this disaster.
Speaker 3: They just cross each other up. It looks bad, really bad.
Speaker 3: And then Austin's going up for a leap frog and
Speaker 3: Ricky is jumping too at the same time. That's just
Speaker 3: the spot I'm talking about and they collide in mid
Speaker 3: motion and Austin kind of flops down and Steamboat he
Speaker 3: does quick he does a quick recovery. Do his credit,
Speaker 3: you know, Steamboat one of the best at making anything
Speaker 3: that might be a miss a misstep look like, okay, well,
Speaker 3: that's what happens when two guys are trying to execute
Speaker 3: complicated moves in each other in a real fire every
Speaker 3: now and then they're gonna miss. And when they missed,
Speaker 3: is the other guy, you know, look like a deer
Speaker 3: in the headlights announcing to everybody that something was wrong,
Speaker 3: or does he immediately go for a cover as you
Speaker 3: do if someone went for a move and missed.
Speaker 2: Of course, that's exactly what you would do.
Speaker 3: It's what he does for jackknife cover from Steamboat that
Speaker 3: gets too body slambery ricky Steamboat and he soars with
Speaker 3: a cross body for two. Then we have Steamboat hits
Speaker 3: uh Steve Austin lifts him. It's a huge spinebuster, almost
Speaker 3: like the one Hardcore Holly used to do. Interestingly enough,
Speaker 3: don't remember.
Speaker 2: That we that yeah he yeah, he lifts them up
Speaker 2: and then yeah, like like it's a standing spinebuster maneuver
Speaker 2: of sorts.
Speaker 3: Remember him doing that, but that got the reaction that
Speaker 3: gets them back into it. That's how impact stuff. Austin
Speaker 3: to the bottom rope and lifts a finger at him.
Speaker 3: You can hear this female voice. She's close to a
Speaker 3: hot mic. I don't know who she is or why
Speaker 3: he can hear her, but all I can hear her
Speaker 3: say is, I think everyone's wrestling for Antonio. Everyone's wrestling
Speaker 3: for Antonio.
Speaker 2: I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 3: It's somebody calling them out for you know, they're just
Speaker 3: doing a match that is supposed to get them booked
Speaker 3: in New Japan as opposed to a match for the
Speaker 3: people here in Orlando. I think that that's what I
Speaker 3: interpreted that remark to be, which look is probably a
Speaker 3: fair comment because some of these people are shitting on
Speaker 3: the match in the building, but they just keep going.
Speaker 3: Is almost like they're they're wrestling past that. You know,
Speaker 3: Austin rubbing steamboats head in the mat and Austin to
Speaker 3: the middle rope, flying knee to Ricky, steamboats back, and
Speaker 3: we hear her again. We can't really bring up what
Speaker 3: she's saying. Austin is mocking the martial arts hand motions
Speaker 3: of Ricky steamboat, which is hilarious the way he hunches
Speaker 3: over and like does karate hands.
Speaker 2: It's so funny. I mean, look, he's the best. That's right,
Speaker 2: all right, there's a reason why he is the best.
Speaker 3: All the while, ricky steam all the wild ricky steamboats
Speaker 3: doing the cell job that he learned from boxers, where
Speaker 3: he's like barely on his feet waving Austin on, like
Speaker 3: come on, bring it, ye Austin with some chops. Steamboat
Speaker 3: with a shove, barely standing, Austin staying on him. Rickey
Speaker 3: chops double leg catapult, Austin eats it in the corner
Speaker 3: and falls back into a cover by steamboat for two
Speaker 3: back up and Austin explodes with a falling larry At
Speaker 3: catching him. Very nice, how Austin cut off the rallying
Speaker 3: ricky steamboat there. Steamboat tries to stand and wave on
Speaker 3: Steve Austin and he chops him and a whip his
Speaker 3: reverse and Austin backdrop. Steamboat hits a swinging neck breaker
Speaker 3: and suddenly Heenan says, as soon as Michael Buffer introduces
Speaker 3: both contestants' history.
Speaker 2: Will be made.
Speaker 3: It's like he got this fucking thing. You got to
Speaker 3: mention Michael Buffer for no reason right in the middle
Speaker 3: of this US title match. I wonder who gave that
Speaker 3: signal from the truck Jesus Christ. Austin gets a two count,
Speaker 3: turns over Ricky and puts his neck between his ankles
Speaker 3: and kind of pulls at him. Kind of a weird
Speaker 3: sequence there. Ricky gets to his knees, climbs up, tries
Speaker 3: to the electric chair drop on Steve Austin with him
Speaker 3: on his shoulders, but Austin kind of rams Ricky's head
Speaker 3: into the mat head first. He gets free and Ricky
Speaker 3: stiffs up like a board the way he takes that
Speaker 3: header into the canvas. Oh, I know, just an elementary
Speaker 3: grabbed the guy by the hair when he's flat down,
Speaker 3: face down on the mat and just slam his head
Speaker 3: and Steamboat finds a way to take that ass over.
Speaker 2: Tea kettle looks great.
Speaker 3: And a nice entangled cradle by Austin, gets those legs
Speaker 3: all pretzeled in there and gets a two several times
Speaker 3: he goes for it, and then he goes to the mountain,
Speaker 3: gets two, grinding his foreum on Steamboat's face, holding down forcefully.
Speaker 3: Not enough of that in wrestling, grabbing the guy's hands
Speaker 3: and like, you're not kicking it out.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's very simple. It's very simple, it's
Speaker 2: and it's effective. Yes, just fucking do it.
Speaker 3: And he's doing it. That only gets two though, over
Speaker 3: and over again. Finally, Steamboat bridges with Austin on top
Speaker 3: of him, and Austin goes up and boom comes down.
Speaker 3: Instead of landing with his shins on a steamboat's gut,
Speaker 3: Steamboat gets both of his knees and Austin's crotch and
Speaker 3: then he kicks up with both feet and Austin takes
Speaker 3: an absolute crazy backwards bump. Is that a that kick
Speaker 3: off your back like that? That upkick has potential to
Speaker 3: generate a hell of a lot of power. Austin from
Speaker 3: the back grabs the wrist and kicks the inside arm
Speaker 3: to the middle rope.
Speaker 2: They go.
Speaker 3: Austin is choking him and runs and sits on a
Speaker 3: cross Steamboat's back and waves Rocky Steamboat's arm into the camera.
Speaker 3: He grabs him and turns him into a puppet. Here
Speaker 3: at bash at the beach, tremendous stuff from Steve Austin.
Speaker 3: He says, Hi, everybody with the limp wrist and then
Speaker 3: Steve pulls down his own knee pad. Steamboat turns and
Speaker 3: hot shots Austin. Kind of that stun gun. Austin's move
Speaker 3: across the top rope. Boston goes to the apron. They
Speaker 3: slug it out there. Austin knees and toss the steamboat
Speaker 3: off the apron into the guardrail side headlock and Austin
Speaker 3: shoved off into the post on the floor.
Speaker 2: Back in.
Speaker 3: Steamboat climbs with a tomahawk chop, takes them ount rains
Speaker 3: down right hands big come back here from steamboat back
Speaker 3: up where Austin goes up and over in the great backdrop.
Speaker 2: What a cell job.
Speaker 3: Yes, steamboat knocks him down, covers him for two. Austin
Speaker 3: jabs the eye though and throws steamboat over, and steamboat
Speaker 3: skins the cat as only he can. Heenan says, a
Speaker 3: steamboat jumped over, Not that Steve Austin tried to throw
Speaker 3: him over. So before you go screaming disqualification against Steve Austin.
Speaker 3: Steamboat gets on him to the corner, chops and then
Speaker 3: lunges and a backdrop, and again steamboat hangs on, charges in,
Speaker 3: grabs a cradle, gets to another inside. Cradle gets to
Speaker 3: their backup steamboat with a double egg take down jackknife.
Speaker 3: Cradle gets two. Tony says, Steve Austin was trying to
Speaker 3: get disqualified there, and Heenen says, oh, if that was true,
Speaker 3: he just have to punch the ref and he didn't
Speaker 3: do that, so clearly that's wrong. Tony and I whip
Speaker 3: is reversed. Steamboat hits Austin. Okay, it's tombstone time now.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: If we spend enough time thinking about how it was
Speaker 3: Steve Austin who was a mark for the spot that
Speaker 3: paralyzed him at Summer Slam nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 2: Yep, but it's here and all that I was, and
Speaker 2: I was nervous watching this. I mean, my mind goes right.
Speaker 3: There, so nervous. It's summertime after all. Exactly, come on, now.
Speaker 2: All the pieces are there, and it's just it's very,
Speaker 2: very very uncomfortable watching him go for the move, take
Speaker 2: the move, all of it.
Speaker 3: I mean, steamboat just collapses forward and just lets the
Speaker 3: chips fall where they may. Regarding Steve Austin's head, yes,
Speaker 3: he doesn't like he doesn't try to spike him straight down.
Speaker 3: He doesn't try to. He doesn't try to pinch Austin's
Speaker 3: head between his two kneecaps to prevent, you know, impact,
Speaker 3: He us.
Speaker 2: Goes forward.
Speaker 3: He just falls on his knees and whatever happens to that,
Speaker 3: it's unreal impact. Wild that it was Austin who calls
Speaker 3: that spot. Yeah, crowd is now fully with it. Seembo
Speaker 3: climbs the ropes leaps and Austin shoves the ref Aside
Speaker 3: gets in, the ref gets in his face. Crowd is
Speaker 3: kind of dead. I don't know, they're not really as
Speaker 3: alive as they should be at this moment in the contest.
Speaker 3: I feel like, I don't know if it dragged on
Speaker 3: too long. I don't know what the deal was. Maybe
Speaker 3: this crowd is just here to see Halkogan and it's
Speaker 3: that simple. But I do feel like the effort wasn't
Speaker 3: commensurate to the response as far.
Speaker 2: As I I yeah, I don't know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I didn't really care what they were how they were responding.
Speaker 2: I was I was just loving it. There's a whole
Speaker 2: much fucking work rate going on, yeh. I mean, maybe
Speaker 2: they were a little bit out of juice. From from
Speaker 2: Marnin Anderson turning right beforehand. Big moment, no bad question.
Speaker 2: You know, if they're not enjoying their fucking bitches there
Speaker 2: you go pretty simple.
Speaker 3: So the wef is waving like no, and Steamboat holding
Speaker 3: his arm like don't you weigh this thing off? And
Speaker 3: then he gets his hands on Austin starts hauling off.
Speaker 3: Whip is reversed, Austin misses two closed lines. Steamboat is
Speaker 3: the cross body block, but Austin rolls through one two
Speaker 3: not enough, shoulder up, and then Austin goes for it again,
Speaker 3: this time with his leg on the ropes one, two, three,
Speaker 3: Steve Austin pulling the rugout from under Ricky Steamboat twenty
Speaker 3: minutes and six seconds to retain the US title.
Speaker 2: You see, it's great, Like you know, like again, these
Speaker 2: these moves, like the finishes here are not being done.
Speaker 25: You know.
Speaker 2: If you look at like they're they're being done a
Speaker 2: little more realistic. Yeah, you know, the way that they
Speaker 2: get the pins, they're they're not they're not slick, They're
Speaker 2: a little bit clunky, And I think that's great for this. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm with you. It's interesting.
Speaker 3: They have this finish, the same finish in the Marrow match.
Speaker 3: And pretty much the same finish in the cap this match,
Speaker 3: all three go down to like these these sort of
Speaker 3: like half hazard cobble together pen attempts and yeah, the
Speaker 3: guys in the ring are good enough, but exception the
Speaker 3: folly one, which is god awfuls we'll get too well.
Speaker 2: I mean it's also I mean it's it's it's also
Speaker 2: just ruined by Nick Patrick.
Speaker 3: Yeah he doesn't, he never helps. It's just completely ruined.
Speaker 3: Always a negative.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Austin springs out of the ring upon getting the pinfall
Speaker 3: and goes up with his arms in the air like
Speaker 3: fuck yeah. Power walks to the back and we go
Speaker 3: to Tony and Bobby signed behind Tony Hulk who if
Speaker 3: only they got a Hooters girl there. Chris Cruise is
Speaker 3: with Roman orndor if Heenan says, is that Chris Cruise
Speaker 3: or doctor Govorkian? Heenan says, pick me a winner in
Speaker 3: the next match. He picks Sullivan a cactus check.
Speaker 2: I got I got this here for you. Pick me
Speaker 2: a winner.
Speaker 23: Pick me a winner in the next match. Kevin Solomon
Speaker 23: cactus Jack.
Speaker 2: Why do you think that?
Speaker 17: Cause they're so unpredictable, there's no way to defend against him, no.
Speaker 2: Way to defend against them. It's simple.
Speaker 15: You get him at big nice sports what they like,
Speaker 15: you know, the one that ties behind in the back
Speaker 15: that they wear so nice, at the nuthouse where they reside.
Speaker 5: That's how you beat them.
Speaker 2: Then that house where they reside. I love the idea
Speaker 2: of like the straight jacket. Oh totally, you know, it's
Speaker 2: such a it's such a I mean, do people even
Speaker 2: does that even happen anymore? Like that much? The straight
Speaker 2: chat that I know of? I mean, yeah, like you
Speaker 2: don't hear about that that much.
Speaker 3: That's a kind of an old fashioned thing. And we
Speaker 3: go back to the packed locker room. Meng and woman
Speaker 3: are in there, and this is the of course, the
Speaker 3: stud stables celebrating arms pigre turn. Gene comes in just
Speaker 3: a second.
Speaker 2: Oh man, listen to I got this one. This whole
Speaker 2: thing like when he when he says he's got like
Speaker 2: credentials or whatever, just fucking unbelievable.
Speaker 16: Hold on my second, mart Anderson, Martin Anderson, I want
Speaker 16: to get in here.
Speaker 23: Wait a minute, I've got credentials. I've got credentials.
Speaker 5: I can anywhere in here.
Speaker 2: What the fuck, Jean, what the fuck?
Speaker 18: Hey?
Speaker 23: I want to talk.
Speaker 5: This is a private party.
Speaker 23: Here's you can see.
Speaker 24: We're smoking cigars, drinking beer and frankings.
Speaker 23: Champagne hold his glass out for him.
Speaker 5: Jean, watch the funer right here.
Speaker 23: Huh, we're gonna pump the top hair hot.
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm got that on Edison.
Speaker 23: Number one man right there, brother, a real gem.
Speaker 1: I said, I don't want to talk to Dustin Anderson.
Speaker 5: He's a strong thing. Hey, let me say one thing.
Speaker 5: We was coming back from the ring and this kid
Speaker 5: leaped over.
Speaker 4: He leaned right on to the top of the ray
Speaker 4: lambs and he came up to me and he dropped
Speaker 4: to it through and he had me like that.
Speaker 5: He said, why did you do that thing? Why did
Speaker 5: you do that for dozing roads? He's such a great
Speaker 5: best linger entertainer. And I kicked him away from him.
Speaker 2: He's what I couldn't please my ears. I really, he's
Speaker 2: such a great wrestling entertainment. What the fuck?
Speaker 3: Where did that come from?
Speaker 2: Terry? I mean speechless, And I said his daddy was to.
Speaker 22: Let me try it up before you talk to You know,
Speaker 22: it's very few times you make an agreement with a
Speaker 22: man that you could trust.
Speaker 5: Him in his honor and I won't say that.
Speaker 29: I won't a toast ride now, I won't everybody with
Speaker 29: the glass in there to toast one of the most
Speaker 29: honorable finest.
Speaker 24: Man, this man right here that just joined our stud
Speaker 24: stable Bindy and Falsa and the.
Speaker 1: Sand or So. I can't believe you.
Speaker 23: I tried to talk to you earlier.
Speaker 16: That is the most disgusting thing and honest to god,
Speaker 16: I've ever seen gen o'klin.
Speaker 29: Less than a year ago, I was laying in a
Speaker 29: hospital bed in England.
Speaker 5: Beat I trusted, Colonel. I trusted.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's a shit stabbing right right is unbelievable.
Speaker 3: I forgot he ever made reference to that. Ever once
Speaker 3: he does it for the sake of the promo, though.
Speaker 29: It's unbelievable, playing in a hospital bed beat half to
Speaker 29: death right down the hall.
Speaker 2: For me was my constituent beat half to death? That
Speaker 2: I thought, for what is he talking about?
Speaker 3: Sid to yeh, I don't know what it would be
Speaker 3: his constituent, but okay, I think I don't think he
Speaker 3: knows that word means.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not a crusader.
Speaker 29: I'm not gonna lay up here bete half to death
Speaker 29: to represent what I think is right, I'm gonna do
Speaker 29: what I think is a Dustin Rose. I told you
Speaker 29: if you wanted me to be in the match, you
Speaker 29: would have to take the old iron Anderson, the old
Speaker 29: iron Anderson who had smack his benny in the mouth
Speaker 29: of fifty cent. You said, fine, whatever it takes. Well,
Speaker 29: Dustin knows you got him to night. You made a
Speaker 29: pack with the devil, and the devil called his mucker
Speaker 29: in a little.
Speaker 8: Bit, so tell him.
Speaker 16: Apparently Prince had been trussed doesn't mean anything in as Cesspool.
Speaker 16: Let's get back to you, ladies, yourselves.
Speaker 2: Beautiful girls like you. Hilarious. I I I love this
Speaker 2: Arn promo. Good stuff, It's fantastic.
Speaker 3: They're choking him with Champagne too while he's talking, to
Speaker 3: the point it's burning his eyes and he's like trying
Speaker 3: to force his eyes open but he can't and he
Speaker 3: has to keep wiping them away, which I think that's
Speaker 3: a rib like when a guy's on camera. I feel
Speaker 3: poor Champagne, he's gonna struggle to keep his eyes open.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I love he just uses the thing like
Speaker 3: you know, I almost died, so like I'm done worrying
Speaker 3: about anything but myself. That's my epiphany after being in
Speaker 3: that position, and so here I am. Yeah, good stuff.
Speaker 3: I also watch for a guy frantically trying to load
Speaker 3: cable into this room at the very beginning of the segment,
Speaker 3: trying to run cable and also hide himself from view
Speaker 3: at the same time. Oh my god, it's it's it's
Speaker 3: something to see in the corner there. So here's pretty wonderful.
Speaker 3: Paul Roma and Paula Orendorf and the Sequins and everything.
Speaker 3: As they part the curtain, Kevin Sullivan comes out with
Speaker 3: the tag team title, formerly of Singapore, now residing in
Speaker 3: Daytona Beach by way of Southey, along with his brother
Speaker 3: Dave as Kevin Sullivan and his partner and co tag
Speaker 3: team title holder, Cactus Jack, the forementioned fan from New
Speaker 3: York doing his part holding open the WCW magazine for
Speaker 3: the cameras with Cactus and Dave. Sullivan already has his
Speaker 3: Hogan shirt on, so he's already a whole co maniac,
Speaker 3: and he insists those are his jammies.
Speaker 2: I wanna be a comaniac, have fun with my family
Speaker 2: and friends. Absolutely, I wanna be a co maniac. I
Speaker 2: can't believe they put that on. I need to take
Speaker 2: off my pants.
Speaker 3: Cactus sticking the tongue through the tooth gap, and Cactus
Speaker 3: and Celli had beaten the Nasties Slambery for the Tag
Speaker 3: Team Championships. Tony notes, it was supposed to be Dave Sullivan,
Speaker 3: not Cactus is the partner, but that's the way it
Speaker 3: shook out. The fake Hog guy has a Paula sign,
Speaker 3: which of course was the taunt back then towards Paul Orndorf,
Speaker 3: and he says that's not Holcoke and that's some idiot.
Speaker 3: He then says he doesn't think. I don't think Dave
Speaker 3: knows who Kevin is. Yeah, he doesn't think Kevin knows
Speaker 3: likes Dave. Yeah, And he doesn't think Dave knows who
Speaker 3: Kevin even is. So this is a controversial time for
Speaker 3: Mick Foley. He's in a totally different space. Yes, he
Speaker 3: had done a W step in ECW promo. At the time,
Speaker 3: w CW and ECW were very freely exchanging talent. Terry
Speaker 3: Funk is an example of that. So as Arn Anderson
Speaker 3: aren't had done the ECW Arena in the same year,
Speaker 3: we just saw Bobby Eaton. Others had made their way
Speaker 3: over there and Folly goes over to do the Saboo match.
Speaker 3: Kind of touched on the match but didn't watch it
Speaker 3: in our Saboo tribute really because he was underwhelming. The
Speaker 3: internet was kind of all a buzz with what it
Speaker 3: would mean if this, you know, table smashing Maniac came
Speaker 3: up against Cactus Jack, the Ultimate risk Taker. So they
Speaker 3: had the match at the arena and they pulled out
Speaker 3: as many stops they could, but it was overall received
Speaker 3: as kind of underwhelming. So Cactus, as he was so
Speaker 3: great at doing, we do a promo railing against the
Speaker 3: fans for their inhumane expectations. And one of the things
Speaker 3: he does to express how dissatisfied he is with the
Speaker 3: current state of affairs is he in this promo on
Speaker 3: ECW Television, spits on the WCW Tag Team Championship belt.
Speaker 3: He holds it right up there and spits on it
Speaker 3: and then goes off in his tie rating promo. Now,
Speaker 3: Rick Flair, as aforementioned, was pretty much booking WCW at
Speaker 3: this time and was in a position to kind of
Speaker 3: discipline the locker room, and he calls Mick according to
Speaker 3: Mick and his Book, and choose him out for spitting
Speaker 3: on the title, or at least asks him in a
Speaker 3: very kind of like arms folded kind of way, this
Speaker 3: is true, did you spit in the WW title? And
Speaker 3: pretty soon fully can start to feel things diminishing in
Speaker 3: terms of his push and his position in the company. Well, Rick,
Speaker 3: I explained to my boss, he writes in his first book,
Speaker 3: even with more excitement in my voice. I wanted the
Speaker 3: fans to understand that as much as I valued that belt,
Speaker 3: I valued my pride a little more By spitting on
Speaker 3: the belt. I felt that I was adding an exclamation
Speaker 3: point to the fact that I knew how important this
Speaker 3: match was for WCW, so I wanted to give a
Speaker 3: little something extra. Would that Flaire said he needed to
Speaker 3: take another call. I was all fired up. Fuck him,
Speaker 3: I silently mouthed, while raising my middle finger in a
Speaker 3: stone cold salute. When Flair got back on the line,
Speaker 3: he said he had to go, but that he talked
Speaker 3: to me at TV. It would be great to say
Speaker 3: that I went there and verbally tore nature new asshole,
Speaker 3: but the truth is that, not wanting to create waves,
Speaker 3: I apologized for disrespecting the image of the belt. Flair
Speaker 3: was pleasant enough about the whole thing as I watched
Speaker 3: this forty five year old man Koma's back, his hair
Speaker 3: as he looked in the mirror as if he thought
Speaker 3: he was the fawnds. Hey, A nurse showed me. Hey, right,
Speaker 3: that's the funn Hey A nurse showed me my MRI
Speaker 3: result because he was hurting at the time, Mick, which
Speaker 3: revealed two bulging discs and one herd needed disk in
Speaker 3: his back. If you think of the disks in your
Speaker 3: back as jelly donuts, a bulge of curs blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: His jelly had squirted out. The nurse left, and Doctor Rosen,
Speaker 3: the name had been changed to protect my bank account,
Speaker 3: walked in a few minutes later. He started in by saying, well, Michael,
Speaker 3: looks like you've got two bulging discs. I kept waiting
Speaker 3: for him to continue, but he didn't. Finally, I continued
Speaker 3: his diagnosis forum. What about the herneda disc, I asked,
Speaker 3: which startled him. Oh, how did you know about that?
Speaker 3: My reply was simple, I read the report. He was
Speaker 3: clearly caught off guard and began back pedaling with his brain.
Speaker 3: Well it is, but it isn't, came his somewhat less
Speaker 3: than scientific reply. That was all I needed to hear.
Speaker 3: I took my MRIs and sought a second opinion. Dtor
Speaker 3: Armstrong was the guy wrestlers went to when they didn't
Speaker 3: trust Rosen. Armstrong took one look at my MRIs and
Speaker 3: strongly advised me not to wrestle until I saw a
Speaker 3: back specialist. He said, the MRI detected a portion of
Speaker 3: the disc that had fragmented and was floating freely in
Speaker 3: my spinal column. If this fragment lodged in the wrong area,
Speaker 3: it could be serious trouble. Unfortunately, I had to leave
Speaker 3: for Florida the next day and didn't have time to
Speaker 3: see a specialist. Doctor Armstrong wished me luck and sent
Speaker 3: me off with a note that read, do not wrestle.
Speaker 3: To do so would risk serious and permanent injury, including
Speaker 3: wow but not limited to, loss of control of bowel
Speaker 3: and bladder functions, loss of sensation and extremities, and paralysis.
Speaker 3: Do not wrestle until se by a specialist. I called
Speaker 3: WW you and told him the news, but told him
Speaker 3: that I would come to Florida anyway. When I got
Speaker 3: to the residence in Kevin called me to his room.
Speaker 2: What's going on here?
Speaker 3: He asked, they don't believe me, do they, I said, sadly,
Speaker 3: knowing that my question was mettally rhetorical. Of course they don't.
Speaker 3: Kevin shot back. Rick thinks she did this because he
Speaker 3: yelled at you about spitting on the belt. He did this,
Speaker 3: got a doctor's note?
Speaker 2: Did this?
Speaker 10: Ye?
Speaker 2: I was getting hot? Where is he?
Speaker 3: I went to a boardroom where Flair was sitting with
Speaker 3: several other members of the Book and Committee Cactus. Flair
Speaker 3: began the tone of his voice sounding like trouble to me.
Speaker 3: Kevin tells me you won't be able to wrestle tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Is that true?
Speaker 3: Yes, Rick, it is, I answered, Are you sure? He
Speaker 3: shot back, as if I were on trial? Yes, I am, Rick,
Speaker 3: I answered again. Now he hit a nerve. I pulled
Speaker 3: out doctor Armstrong's note and, with more than a little
Speaker 3: anger in my voice, addressed the nature boy. I've got
Speaker 3: a legitimate medical note from a respected orthopedic surgeon that
Speaker 3: tells me I would be risking loss of bowel and
Speaker 3: bladder control and paralysis if I wrestle. I'm actually scared, Rick,
Speaker 3: and none of you seem to give a damn, And
Speaker 3: for once in my life, I'm going to put myself
Speaker 3: and my family before this business. I'm not going to wrestle.
Speaker 3: This is true, he said to someone whose identity escapes me. Well,
Speaker 3: the unknown man told Flair. The doctor did say he
Speaker 3: could use some time off, but what about tomorrow, Flair inquired.
Speaker 3: The doctor says that one more match shouldn't make a difference.
Speaker 3: The unknown man answered, now it was well, I'll put
Speaker 3: those words in Flower's mouth. Now it was my turn
Speaker 3: to step back in. I explained that it is, but
Speaker 3: it isn't diagnosis, and stressed the second opinion, that's true,
Speaker 3: Rick Unknown said, actually backing me up on this matter.
Speaker 3: A lot of the boys don't trust Rosen, so they
Speaker 3: go to doctor Armstrong. Look, I said, my note says
Speaker 3: don't wrestle until seeing a back specialist. If you can
Speaker 3: get me to a specialist who can give me a
Speaker 3: milligram and a cat scan, and if that doctor says
Speaker 3: I can wrestle, then I will away. I went to
Speaker 3: the Sandlike Regional Hospital. Unfortunately, the hospital was not able
Speaker 3: to give me those tests on short notice. The doctors
Speaker 3: echoed doctor Armstrong's advice before I left. I should have listened,
Speaker 3: but I didn't. When I got back to the residence.
Speaker 3: I went to the boardroom, opened the door and said,
Speaker 3: I'll wrestle, but I'm not doing anything risky. You see
Speaker 3: how soon they forget. I was on the floor stretching
Speaker 3: at the Orlando Arena at his bash of the Beach
Speaker 3: when a familiar gruff addressed me. I looked up and
Speaker 3: saw Harley. There was sadness in his eyes. Everything you've
Speaker 3: done for them, and this is how they repay you.
Speaker 3: I didn't say anything but nodded my head. If I'd
Speaker 3: spoken at all, I very well might have said I
Speaker 3: very well might have cried cactus. He continued, I hope
Speaker 3: you remember this night for a long time. You know something, Harley,
Speaker 3: I will. I sent Harley a Christmas card that year
Speaker 3: that said, simply, I wish the office had done half
Speaker 3: as much for me as you have. Two years later,
Speaker 3: his wife told me how much it had meant to him.
Speaker 3: I did wrestle that night, and I was scared as hell.
Speaker 3: It was the worst pay per view match that I
Speaker 3: have ever been in, and the fans knew it.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 3: I've been in some stinkers before, but I always had
Speaker 3: this feeling inside me that no matter how bad things sucked,
Speaker 3: I could always somehow pull it out of the gutter.
Speaker 3: I got that same feeling in Orlando that night as
Speaker 3: we cluster fucked to a symphony of silence. But I
Speaker 3: waited on the ring apron until the feeling went away.
Speaker 3: After twenty two minutes of a match that was about
Speaker 3: nineteen minutes too long, we dropped the tag team titles
Speaker 3: to Orndorf and Roma, just as they had so mysteriously
Speaker 3: predicted did over ten weeks earlier. Yes, there was a
Speaker 3: snaffu where they basically, you know, knew they were going
Speaker 3: to shoot the tag title change, so they put it.
Speaker 3: They accidentally put it something on television early that called
Speaker 3: out Roma and ord Orphis champions as if they had
Speaker 3: just won them before the match had taken place. So
Speaker 3: they were still struggling with some of those continuity issues
Speaker 3: around filming so many weeks of television at a time,
Speaker 3: including shows that were to air after the upcoming pay
Speaker 3: per view where the title switch would take place. But
Speaker 3: that's mcfoley. So this match we're about to see boss
Speaker 3: and talk about is the worst pay per view match
Speaker 3: mckfoley ever remembers having. Yeah, I mean it's not great, wretched, wretched, Yeah, yeah, wretched.
Speaker 2: No one knows. It's a shame because I love fucking
Speaker 2: Pretty Wonderful. Yeah, they're pretty awful here, I think I
Speaker 2: think Pretty Wonderful is such a great, underrated ww tag
Speaker 2: team in the mid nineties. But man, yeah, it's just
Speaker 2: a shit show yep, and a lot of it.
Speaker 3: If you don't know Mix hurt, you're really frustrated and
Speaker 3: confused because so much of the match is Kevin Sullivan
Speaker 3: throwing these bolo forearms and stiff chops, trying to draw
Speaker 3: the crowd into the fact that he's really exchanging and
Speaker 3: hitting hard, and no one gives a fuck. No one
Speaker 3: cares about Kevin Sullivan's offense yep, And you're like, why
Speaker 3: is it micking there? He's the most interesting wrestler out there,
Speaker 3: Like he can do cool stuff, and you don't know
Speaker 3: he's hurt, and it's just like it's like they're sabotaging
Speaker 3: the match on purpose. It almost seems like. But the
Speaker 3: finish comes together in such a sloppy way that you're like, yeah, oh,
Speaker 3: it makes sense that like they were kid loving Mick
Speaker 3: because he was, you know, in such a perilous position. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but a woman from the locker room scene comes and
Speaker 3: gets the robes. Same woman who was celebrating with arn
Speaker 3: Anderson and punkass Buck and dairy Funk. Jesus, I was
Speaker 3: coming to get Paul and Roman. Anderson's wrote up Orndorf's robes,
Speaker 3: and we see Orndorf and Kevin Sullivan get it started.
Speaker 3: Some flexing, of course from Orndorf and yeah, one of
Speaker 3: the that right arm has already given up. The right
Speaker 3: arm is already starting fade. Yeah, mister Wonderful, Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: it definitely is.
Speaker 2: It's very noticeable. Yes, it's starting, very noticeable. Weird' said, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the air is being let out. That's exactly right. Lock
Speaker 2: up Ornbro for the arm.
Speaker 3: Dragon a pose Sully lighter on his feet than I
Speaker 3: would have expected, because he's trying to really make this work,
Speaker 3: knowing Cactus can't do too much.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's it's it's such a fucking nightmare.
Speaker 3: Tag to Cactus and Roma. Roma pinches his nose like,
Speaker 3: look at this nothing this zero and then look at me,
Speaker 3: he says. He does the go behind and trips Cactus
Speaker 3: and gloats, and then goes to the hammer lock and
Speaker 3: shoves him to the corner and gloats again. They're doing
Speaker 3: the He's basically Paul Roma doing the endw Dice clay
Speaker 3: Oh every time he pull something off.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Cactus bites Roma's nose, tags Sullivan push off tackle drop down,
Speaker 3: Sully goes under the leap frog, Roma ducks the line
Speaker 3: and then I cactus headbutts to no reaction dropping Paul Roma.
Speaker 3: Crowd not digging this orangeor fan kicks and punches Sully
Speaker 3: in the corner. Uh fully threw himself over the buckle
Speaker 3: to block Sully.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I like that. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: I'm always a fan of that spot. Yep. People people
Speaker 2: should do it more often. Yep. You know like the
Speaker 2: fact that people that that that teammates don't try to
Speaker 2: block the post the corner. The post is ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Absolutely it works here and it's a good move for
Speaker 3: him to pull out because it's low risk in a
Speaker 3: moment like this. So Sully chops. Roma tries, but Sully
Speaker 3: redirects him and fully kicks Roma up on the hammer
Speaker 3: locked position. Pretty wonderful. Bail out of the ring and
Speaker 3: fully and Paul Oendorff re engage tackle down goes Orndorf,
Speaker 3: but he hits a knee lift on the way in
Speaker 3: and forearms in the corner on fully to the four floor,
Speaker 3: Fully blocks and throws and Sully drops Paul Roma. He's
Speaker 3: whipped into sully clothesline and they take the bump pre
Speaker 3: four brawl dead crowd YEP. Cactus acted like he's going
Speaker 3: to launch the elbow off the apron, but Paul Roma
Speaker 3: is standing up, so Cactus just has to walk down
Speaker 3: the steps and throw them in the ring. So it's
Speaker 3: Orndorf and Sully in the corner, exchanging. Sully goes off
Speaker 3: with the slaps to the chest, takes on Roma as well,
Speaker 3: trying to get the crowd behind the idea that's just
Speaker 3: not okay fighting both men. Heenan's wondering who the legal
Speaker 3: man is. Cactus is in on a hammer lock. I mean,
Speaker 3: this is like, what the fuck is this? Why is
Speaker 3: Cactus working a hammer lock right now? And he goes
Speaker 3: he almost appears to me to know what he's doing
Speaker 3: as he applies a wrestling hold. Sullivan comes in working
Speaker 3: the hands stomping gimmick. Noow where he stomps your hand
Speaker 3: one hundred times, and Tony says, we have heard report,
Speaker 3: no report yet on Dustin Rhodes. Remember he's still severely injured,
Speaker 3: and Heenes says he's waiting for his aid to come
Speaker 3: back with information on that front. Paul Owen Dwarf boots
Speaker 3: Cactus on the drop down and yanks him down.
Speaker 2: I would have loved to have been one of Heenan's aids.
Speaker 3: Yes, I know, to be working his sources in the
Speaker 3: back and to feed information to him. Heenan gets an
Speaker 3: update and laughs, I guess he has been taken to
Speaker 3: the hospital. He says, what a piece of shit. He
Speaker 3: finds that out and laughs, he laughs, I love it.
Speaker 3: Roma comes in stomping away fully with that. That's a
Speaker 3: lot of that. Cactus with a head butt out of
Speaker 3: the as he's backed into the corner. Orndorf makes the
Speaker 3: blind tag. They double team fully a bit. Nick Patrick presidings,
Speaker 3: you can imagine how easy that would be. Orndorf prize
Speaker 3: is suplex. No Cactus hits in with one instead, So
Speaker 3: that's gonna be the big move from Cactus. Really in
Speaker 3: this match is this suplex tag to Sullivan, who comes
Speaker 3: in going off trying to do a baby face fire comeback. No,
Speaker 3: no one cares, not good, It's not no one wants
Speaker 3: to see Kevin Sullivan firing up. You know, he rams
Speaker 3: up paul o'dwarf into the corner over and over again,
Speaker 3: grabs Roma too. He's got both of them doing it
Speaker 3: at the same time, Big nogg and knocker to the finish.
Speaker 2: Tony calls it double coconuts delicious.
Speaker 3: Kevin Sullivan drops paul o'dwarf for the right double foot
Speaker 3: to the gut, gets a two count, you know that
Speaker 3: little short double foot stomp that Kevin Sullivan used to
Speaker 3: It gets saved from paul Roma. Cactus whips color Dwarf.
Speaker 2: Chris Lemon looks bored out of.
Speaker 3: His fucking mind. The older rings I don't wonder what
Speaker 3: the fuck am I doing.
Speaker 2: He's miserable. Well, they cut to Hank Aaron and Bill
Speaker 2: Shaw and they're just talking. They're ignoring the match. They're
Speaker 2: just talking to each other. It's fucking hilarious. It's amazing.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a better idea. Can you imagine it
Speaker 3: being a better idea to cut to two people talking
Speaker 3: to each other instead of showing what's happening in the room.
Speaker 3: Cactus with a whip orn Dwarf reverses it, fires out
Speaker 3: with the back yelbow, Sully bites Orn Dwarf, Cactus hits
Speaker 3: a head butt, and then they say that Kevin Sullivan
Speaker 3: ate Orn Dwarf's eyebrow. Okay Enian continues to marvel at
Speaker 3: the concept that Kevin Sullivan and Cactus have teamwork going on. Here,
Speaker 3: Sullivan's in one of the arms of Paul Orndorf. What
Speaker 3: in God's name or they're waiting for I'm starting to
Speaker 3: ask myself. I think they're doing something in the crowd.
Speaker 3: There is a moment where the crowd starts to do
Speaker 3: something to distract themselves. They do the wave, the bash
Speaker 3: at the beach wave. That's very fitting there take that work,
Speaker 3: but that slows the match down even more as they
Speaker 3: wait for that to pass. Cactus in and sits on
Speaker 3: a front face lock. I do think there's probably some
Speaker 3: time thing too. They seem to drag this match out
Speaker 3: to hit artificial time. I really feel that way, Yep.
Speaker 3: I don't know if Hogan wasn't ready, or if Hogan
Speaker 3: didn't want to go to the ring till a particular time,
Speaker 3: whatever it was. Yeah, to your point, they show Aerin
Speaker 3: and Bill Shaw paying attention. Heenan says, which one Shaw
Speaker 3: he's such a Tony says, we'll have that one on
Speaker 3: tap when we negotiate your next contract. That you don't
Speaker 3: know the difference between the two. No, he says, Wait
Speaker 3: a minute. Tony says, we got that one on tap
Speaker 3: brain for the next contract negotiation, and Heenan says, don't worry,
Speaker 3: I'll sign him another word, thinking he's he's on the
Speaker 3: W'SB side of the contract negotiation that Tony's talking about.
Speaker 3: Sonyon No positioned strategically behind Hank Aaron and Bill Shaw,
Speaker 3: no doubt, so that he can report back to Eric
Speaker 3: what it is they were talking about. Of course, Sonnyono
Speaker 3: always watching very closely with a fujisque smile on his face.
Speaker 3: Definitely not up to no good full.
Speaker 2: There's a so who is so who sitting next to
Speaker 2: Chris Lemon, Because it's a guy who looks like he's
Speaker 2: like two people to the left of Chris Lemon glasses on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he looks like Danny McBride and the Righteous Gemstones and
Speaker 2: and uh that. But what really matters is that there's
Speaker 2: a woman who's sitting next to him who at one
Speaker 2: point looks like she's sucking his ear. Really, who I
Speaker 2: missed that. Yeah, it's like she's just like, I don't
Speaker 2: know what what she's doing. I imagine she's not sucking
Speaker 2: his ear, but like she just I don't know, she's
Speaker 2: just like in the side of his head. It's very weird.
Speaker 3: The guy with the glasses, those Hollywood glasses, is Howard Hughes.
Speaker 3: Howard Hughes was Hogan's big attorney.
Speaker 2: Howard Hughes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's his name. It's hard to believe.
Speaker 2: It's that's his name. His name is Howard Hughes.
Speaker 3: Wow, he is a Hulk's attorney. And then next to
Speaker 3: him or maybe two people next to him is Peter Young,
Speaker 3: who was a Hulk Coogan's agent as well as the
Speaker 3: agent of George Foreman, explaining why those two were together
Speaker 3: and why, you know, why they work together to promote
Speaker 3: passion the beach rather easily, and why Hogan can try
Speaker 3: to credibly claim that he was in line for the
Speaker 3: George Foreman grill opportunity. That they called Peter Young about
Speaker 3: him before they called Peter Young about George Foreman.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm sure they did.
Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, he just wasn't home at the time and
Speaker 3: they had to move on. They just couldn't they wanted Hogan,
Speaker 3: But only between the hours of one and three pm
Speaker 3: do they want Hogan. And then they just stopped watching,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, it would appear so fully
Speaker 3: clips the face of Paul or Dwarf in the corner,
Speaker 3: attack to Sullivan, who comes in with right hands and
Speaker 3: an arm ringer still working on the arm here just
Speaker 3: to keep the crowd enthralled. Paul Roman now on Sully,
Speaker 3: throwing rights and lefts in the corner. Sullivan fires back,
Speaker 3: and they're going back and forth, big slap, chop and
Speaker 3: right hand to a battle. Cactus comes in, becomes a
Speaker 3: peer four as Orndorf sneaks in a big pile driver
Speaker 3: on Kevin Sullivan and gets too. He does Steve Sullivan
Speaker 3: putting the foot of his brother on the rope to
Speaker 3: save him from defeat. The crowd stomped.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 3: I can't tell if they're doing that though, to amuse
Speaker 3: themselves and distract themselves, or because they're into the actual match.
Speaker 3: Kevin Sullivan sits down with a jawbreaker on the sleeper
Speaker 3: holding Paul Ooren Dwarf Roma comes in. Then they're exchanging
Speaker 3: all over again, rewinding the whole exchange over and over again.
Speaker 3: Is Kevin Sullen Rombo the body slam leaps to the
Speaker 3: ropes like he used to do. But yeah, to your point,
Speaker 3: one of the great things about Pretty Wonderful is when
Speaker 3: Roma does that elbow so high from the sky, it
Speaker 3: jumps to the ropes in a fluid motion. But if
Speaker 3: he's going to trip doing that spot like he did here,
Speaker 3: now all of a sudden, it just looks like Amer shower. Yep,
Speaker 3: Heenan does say his cat like agility, and Roma hits
Speaker 3: the elbow with basically no impact. So he tries it
Speaker 3: again and gets to Now they're trading off sneak attacks
Speaker 3: behind the referees back as Orndwarf does his wiggle need
Speaker 3: elbow drop to no response whatsoever.
Speaker 2: That is not good.
Speaker 3: If you're gonna do that big involved yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: gyrating elbow drop that Paul En Dwarf used to do,
Speaker 3: at least make sure the crowd gives a fuck.
Speaker 2: It's it's fucking weird, so weird, it's it's very weird,
Speaker 2: and it's like it's too much. He's trying to he's
Speaker 2: trying to get a reaction as opposed to just getting
Speaker 2: a reaction absolutely bad news. Big difference.
Speaker 3: This match brought to you by Crickets Wireless, as far
Speaker 3: as I can tell, so much for vets who know
Speaker 3: how to adjust to the crowd or whatever the fuck.
Speaker 3: Sullivan backs him up, elbows, runs into the sleeper of
Speaker 3: Paul Oorndorf. Sully runs him into the corner to break
Speaker 3: that up, and then Orndwarf tags in Paul Roma, who
Speaker 3: stays on Sullivan. It's a high elbow for two. Sully
Speaker 3: then kind of just I don't know, Judo throws to
Speaker 3: get free and collides with Roma, and then Rome's around
Speaker 3: spinning around. Heenan says, he doesn't know where he's at.
Speaker 3: Of course he's had a lot of days like that,
Speaker 3: Bobby Heenan says of Kevin Sullivan, Dave Sullivan slapping the match,
Speaker 3: trying to get the crowd in. When is paul O
Speaker 3: and Dwarf is in going off on Sully who's being
Speaker 3: held in place. Sally does not make a great baby
Speaker 3: face in peril here, I determined as Kevin Sullivan's whipped
Speaker 3: to the corner and gets the boot up on Orn
Speaker 3: Dwarf who's charging him. Tagged to Paul Roman. Now who
Speaker 3: comes in just punches whipping a clothesline, and Sullivan just
Speaker 3: timbers off to the side, and like, okay, it's like
Speaker 3: they had the comeback six times in the match.
Speaker 2: That's the problem.
Speaker 3: They do the spot where Sullivan's supposed to get the
Speaker 3: hot tag and then they just cut it off because
Speaker 3: Cactus presumably isn't ready for hot tag rally spot, and
Speaker 3: they do another sequence over again. Awful to build to
Speaker 3: another tag that doesn't come. Tag after tag after tag
Speaker 3: between Orndorf and Roma is they're kind of feeling around
Speaker 3: in the dark for something that's going to catch the fans,
Speaker 3: whipping a backdrop on Sullivan elbow drop tagging to Orndorf
Speaker 3: He's gonna do the elbow again, but this time he
Speaker 3: misses it, so then Orndorf gets the tag. Cactus now
Speaker 3: gets the tag two to a minor pop. Cactus comes
Speaker 3: in punching and headbutting, sits down on one of the
Speaker 3: guys across the middle rope whip boot caught Spun and
Speaker 3: Larry and almost like DDP does by Cactus, Jackie then
Speaker 3: slams Roma goes for the double arm DDT Sully punches
Speaker 3: Roma out, Cactus covers, Dave gets on the apron with
Speaker 3: his crutch, which he had for some reason, something happens
Speaker 3: and Sully like pushes Dave out of the ring and
Speaker 3: he's falling and they're trying to hold on and it's terrible.
Speaker 2: It is terrible.
Speaker 3: They're trying to evolve Davis and you don't know who's
Speaker 3: hitting who by mistake or on purpose.
Speaker 2: Why don't they just have Dave like wrestle Ford fucking cactus?
Speaker 3: He has a great question, I assume because he has
Speaker 3: the crutch. He's probably hurt like im obile somehow, I
Speaker 3: don't know, but whatever it is, all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: someone trips Cactus from outside and just holds Roma.
Speaker 2: Roma trips and does the Bobby Heenen type thing and
Speaker 2: he just.
Speaker 3: Holds the leg down and all of a sudden one two, three,
Speaker 3: and follies.
Speaker 2: But here's the problem. This is the problem. This is
Speaker 2: the problem. Though okay, Folly gets tripped up, Roma's holding
Speaker 2: the leg. Nick Patrick and Orndorf goes for the cover right,
Speaker 2: and as this is happening, nick Patrick walks back around
Speaker 2: and he blatantly sees Paul Romas holding Polly's leg, looks
Speaker 2: right at it, but he and and not only that
Speaker 2: when he goes down, he goes down to register thereecount
Speaker 2: if I'm if I'm not mistake, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2: He's also like instead of trying to like like shifts
Speaker 2: that he can't see it, he's like facing it as
Speaker 2: he registers the three count like it is. It is
Speaker 2: one of the fucking like what is wrong with him?
Speaker 2: Basic stuff like to get right. He just it's like
Speaker 2: he didn't either care or didn't understand, Like he's just
Speaker 2: he's the worst. He's the absolute worst referees and and
Speaker 2: like because he he just ruins wrestling by existing.
Speaker 3: He wanders around like that Will Ferrell character that suddenly
Speaker 3: would just walk in front of the camera during an
Speaker 3: SNL skit. Remember yeah, right right right when he's out
Speaker 3: the pasture.
Speaker 2: Right he said, oh, all right, I guess Penn, we're
Speaker 2: going for it. Okay, cool, okay, oh all right, he's
Speaker 2: holding Lake. Great, that's what we're supposed here for one, two, three, great?
Speaker 22: Yay.
Speaker 3: It was twenty minutes and eleven seconds.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, shoot me, pretty wonderful.
Speaker 3: Defeats Cactus and Kevin Sullivan here at Bash of the
Speaker 3: Beach night four.
Speaker 2: Honestly, what are you doing, Nick Patrick. Nick Patrick is
Speaker 2: involved in more fucking screwy finishes than Earl Hadner. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Linda is happy, though Linda is happy, that is Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's applaudingly crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say this in terms of exaggeration,
Speaker 3: but I do feel like it's it's necessary to tell
Speaker 3: people that I wrote this down as soon as this
Speaker 3: match finished. I'll tell you where I was at. I
Speaker 3: wrote the worst match I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: That's what I read. Wow, look at that, Look at
Speaker 2: that new champs.
Speaker 3: Tony says, millions of homes are watching our paper I
Speaker 3: view telecast. No, not millions, millions have access, but they're done.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, and I'll tell you what, No one's watching
Speaker 2: this one right now. People are just taking a shit.
Speaker 2: And he says, you know they went away.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, they're trying to get that bathroom break in. Tony says,
Speaker 3: if you've been like me, you've always wanted to see
Speaker 3: Flair and Hogan, I.
Speaker 2: Got this one for you. This is great, little final
Speaker 2: hype piece.
Speaker 17: You've been like me, a wrestling fan for years, You've
Speaker 17: always wanted to see the nature boy, Rick Flair face
Speaker 17: Haulk Cogan. It's the match we all talked about as
Speaker 17: wrestling fans, the match we always waited for as fans,
Speaker 17: and tonight World Championship Wrestling is proud to bring you
Speaker 17: that match. And Brain, I know you've been very opinionated
Speaker 17: about it. You know hul Cogan as well as I do.
Speaker 23: You know the nature role, I know him better than anyone. Well,
Speaker 23: you know the nature boy Rick Flair as well as
Speaker 23: I do.
Speaker 17: And even though you did not want to see this match,
Speaker 17: even though you do not like Hulk Hogan, you have
Speaker 17: to admit we are on the threshold. We are at
Speaker 17: the moment that wrestling fans, that sports fans worldwide have
Speaker 17: been waiting for.
Speaker 15: You know, one way or the other, it's going to
Speaker 15: be a new era because when Flair beats Hogan, they're
Speaker 15: gonna say, that's right, we.
Speaker 23: Knew Flair could do it all along.
Speaker 15: If it goes the other way and Hogan beats Flair,
Speaker 15: they're gonna say, see, we always knew that Hulk Hogan
Speaker 15: could beat Rick Flair. But Hogan, if you do beat
Speaker 15: Rick Flair, I'm going on record right now, it's a fluke.
Speaker 15: Well that's the opinion of Bobby the brad Heat And
Speaker 15: then for the past well. Ever, since the fourth of June,
Speaker 15: when Hulk Hogan announced his signing with WCW, all of
Speaker 15: us in World Championship Wrestling have been just thrilled to
Speaker 15: have Hulk Hogan a part of us.
Speaker 23: What are you talking, I'm not thrilled to have him
Speaker 23: a part of us. Don't include me in on this rap,
Speaker 23: he finished, Go ahead, We.
Speaker 17: Are thrilled to be bringing you the match that everybody
Speaker 17: wanted to see, Hulk Hogan, the Hulkster and the millions
Speaker 17: of Houkomediacs all around the world waiting for his return
Speaker 17: to the rig against the man who has been the
Speaker 17: standard in World Championship Wrestling, the nature boy, Rick Flair.
Speaker 15: You know, this is a match I've always won to see,
Speaker 15: not Hogan and Flair, but I've always wanted to see
Speaker 15: Hogan made a fool of and this is the man
Speaker 15: to do it.
Speaker 5: It's just a shame.
Speaker 15: It's just a shame that I have to sit here
Speaker 15: and wash these humanoids cheer Hulk Hogan.
Speaker 23: I think Hogan should be have a broom in his hand.
Speaker 2: Sweeping this arena.
Speaker 5: That's what he should be doing.
Speaker 23: And you should be very proud.
Speaker 17: You should be very happy that we are at Rinkside
Speaker 17: able to call the greatest match in the history of
Speaker 17: professional wrestling.
Speaker 15: You'd rather be here than doing a World Series, than
Speaker 15: doing the Super Bowl, doing the Stanley, Well, so would I,
Speaker 15: because I'm gonna love it when Hogan walks out of
Speaker 15: this building tonight and twenty some thousand people are chanting loser, loser, loser,
Speaker 15: I'm gonna feel good, insight. Then I'm gonna go to
Speaker 15: Bucks nort I'm gonna hang around with Terry Funk, arn Anderson,
Speaker 15: and I'm gonna have myself a glass of the Bubbly
Speaker 15: How do you like that, Chavanni, and you can go
Speaker 15: home and have your little warm cup of Oval tea
Speaker 15: and a cookie.
Speaker 23: It's the match we've all been waiting for.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 17: We present to you the biggest match in the history
Speaker 17: of our spot, Rick.
Speaker 23: Flair and Hulk Hogan. As we go to Michael.
Speaker 2: Buffer, Ladies and gentlemen coming to the ring at this time.
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Speaker 14: knows the boys need their candy. It's the Lampsed Fan.
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Speaker 3: One of the executives of WCW from Saint Paul, Minnesota,
Speaker 3: himself a former four time world heavyweight champion and now
Speaker 3: the WCW commissioner. Let's hear it for the honorable Nick Bockwinkle.
Speaker 3: Boo hey, boo, thegainwile.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. They don't see him.
Speaker 3: At first, he doesn't come out, and he goes hope
Speaker 3: he didn't get locked in a room, and finally he
Speaker 3: finds his way out into tuxedo and here is ladies
Speaker 3: and gentlemen from the four time world champion. WCW Commissioner
Speaker 3: Nick Bockwinkle says it again. Still no reaction. Heenan says,
Speaker 3: are you sure that's Bockwinkle or is that Lloyd Bridges?
Speaker 2: And now it's It's fucking great, that's fucking great. It's
Speaker 2: so true. He does look like Lloyd Bridges.
Speaker 3: And now tonight, ladies and gentlemen, as a special guest
Speaker 3: of the WCW. One of the greatest superstars in the
Speaker 3: world world of sports today. He weighs three hundred and
Speaker 3: three pounds, wears a size twenty two shoe. He stands
Speaker 3: at seven foot one inch. He has an NBA number
Speaker 3: one pick in nineteen ninety two with the Orlando Magic
Speaker 3: Ladies and Gentlemen number thirty two, The Shack Attack Shaquille.
Speaker 2: I mean he calls him the Shack Attack, Like, come on, man,
Speaker 2: what is the problem here?
Speaker 3: Yeah it's aw Vader is a snack attack earlier. But yeah, right,
Speaker 3: big pop for for Shack here in Orlando. T shirt
Speaker 3: says all Sport on it. Not sure what that endorsement
Speaker 3: was there for one Shack, but all Sport don't remember that.
Speaker 3: So skinny compared to like what he is now, Like
Speaker 3: when you see him.
Speaker 2: Oh I know, now that he's retired, he's just a
Speaker 2: fucking He's just a fucking massive whale. Yeah, he really is.
Speaker 2: Like it just it just goes to show you, like
Speaker 2: you know, like with some with so many of these athletes,
Speaker 2: like when they're when they're working out and they're exercising
Speaker 2: all the time, they eat whatever they want, and but
Speaker 2: when they retire, they still eat whatever they want, but
Speaker 2: they're fuck working out.
Speaker 3: They veg out like you wouldn't fuck that ship. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: sake house every night.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine how I mean, imagine how sore his
Speaker 2: fucking legs are. All right, he's so goddamn tall, and
Speaker 2: his knees are shot, all right, they got to carry
Speaker 2: around his gargantuan body, you know, and all he wants
Speaker 2: to do is fucking eat steak and tacos. Well, I
Speaker 2: guess exactly fucking chills out watching TV with like a
Speaker 2: plate of nachos on his chest.
Speaker 3: Comes out and shorts a bit of an entourage.
Speaker 2: Just just picture Shack, all right, feed up, you know,
Speaker 2: in this massive great room, okay, in his house, and
Speaker 2: again just a fucking heaping plate of nachos on his chest.
Speaker 2: Last long, Nope, not going to last long.
Speaker 3: Heenan points out that he's got these really unfortunate sideburns.
Speaker 3: His head is completely bald, Shacks, except he's got a
Speaker 3: tuft of hair right at his temple.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like this weird these weird little stripes.
Speaker 3: Little patches.
Speaker 2: Not okay, it's not okay.
Speaker 3: And then goes so those pasting on sideburns, and.
Speaker 2: It looks like it looks like he took his eyebrows
Speaker 2: off and put him on by his ears.
Speaker 3: Nick Bockwinkle keeps whispering something to Shack.
Speaker 2: I'd love to know what it is.
Speaker 3: He's just trying to, like, butter him up and maybe
Speaker 3: make him feel comfortable.
Speaker 2: To you, what do you do exactly?
Speaker 3: And Nick goes out to lunch anyway, Flair music hits
Speaker 3: heen and goes, let's out of woo. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: he goes in a full mode. He says, I love
Speaker 3: it so much. Flair steps out in a purple robe,
Speaker 3: spark Hey, how come the champions coming out first? Chevan,
Speaker 3: that's why he's not on the call, so he can't
Speaker 3: point that out. Yeah, Flair steps out why on this show?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Oh no, probably wouldn't have got a paycheck if he
Speaker 3: didn't show up. Yeah, but you know the fact that
Speaker 3: they had him completely avoid Hogan in every way is
Speaker 3: so telling. So Flaire steps out, resplendent in his purple
Speaker 3: sparkling robe, and Cherry in the white and black lace
Speaker 3: and Flair smiling, strutting and twirling. It's a big moment
Speaker 3: for him. Sparkle was shooting there. He made it happen.
Speaker 3: He didn't just deliver on this night. He got Hogan
Speaker 3: into WW in so many ways.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: Tony says that Churery'd have to admit it. A lot
Speaker 3: of the great athletes. No, he says, you'd all have
Speaker 3: to admit that of all the great athletes, this is
Speaker 3: the biggest. Michael Buffer is applauding and for flair as
Speaker 3: he steps in the ring.
Speaker 2: I don't know where that came from, the mother of
Speaker 2: all wars.
Speaker 3: Right here, we're told, as Tony says, the years he
Speaker 3: was champed, they always said, well, what about Hogan? Tonight
Speaker 3: we get the answer, and here's that music.
Speaker 25: Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're aware of this, but about
Speaker 2: Hulk Hogan. But he is America.
Speaker 3: Made so glad to confirm that he's a man.
Speaker 2: Can may changing. And then wee man, he's got the.
Speaker 5: Red wating door running through his veins.
Speaker 2: Where was he like to eat? He was born writting
Speaker 2: him in the US a very and then I go
Speaker 2: into my custom lyrics. He's something on his son and
Speaker 2: he's us grade. If you like to munch on a
Speaker 2: shuckle the pane and then if you mess with the best,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to run pay. Does that mean? I
Speaker 2: don't know. Did it stop me from repeating it for
Speaker 2: ten years, twelve years and forty years? No way, no way, amazing,
Speaker 2: that's amazing, amazing.
Speaker 3: He calls it to me, he does great, even though
Speaker 3: he's railing against Hogan the whole time. As soon as
Speaker 3: a music comes out, Heenan knows his role and he
Speaker 3: goes the roof's gonna come off here, you know. He
Speaker 3: immediately has to acknowledge the power of Hogan and the
Speaker 3: pod the pop gun pyro goes off above the entrance way.
Speaker 3: Jimmy Hart comes out with the megaphone. Mister t comes
Speaker 3: out with a towel in his hand and waves out
Speaker 3: the Hulkster and we cut to him after we see
Speaker 3: the idiot imitator in the crowd holds out cupping his
Speaker 3: ears for the first time on his way to the
Speaker 3: ring to wrestle in WCW flame shooting off. They gave
Speaker 3: him all the special effects and he's pointing on the
Speaker 3: way to the ring with his whole crew in tow
Speaker 3: And this is what I picture this exact entrance whenever
Speaker 3: I hear this entrance theme song. Is him walking out
Speaker 3: with like four people around him and just pointing at
Speaker 3: the ring like here we go.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's like that, that's the but in that,
Speaker 2: that's the Hogan that we would that we kind of
Speaker 2: know like become the no because he he you can't
Speaker 2: picture Hogan without a posse right anymore. You know, Hogan.
Speaker 2: Hogan is only Hogan if he's got his posse. So true.
Speaker 3: Heenan says, he's back and they're loving it. Yeah, smoke,
Speaker 3: fire and pandemonium. He then says, even more the Hulk
Speaker 3: Coloagan look alike. It looks even more like the guy
Speaker 3: we always see that they find in the crowd somewhere
Speaker 3: in a black bandana, which is interesting foreshadowing. Hulk chairs
Speaker 3: the shirt, hands it to Shaq. Heenan says, what I
Speaker 3: can't hear you? You know that goes They're on their feet.
Speaker 3: Cogan has returned. He theen says he's picking up where
Speaker 3: he left off. Shavanni. He wants to rule professional wrestling.
Speaker 3: Hulk rules, Yeah, Hulk rules, he says, not for long.
Speaker 3: Tony says, wsw what the world is watching now?
Speaker 2: He said it again.
Speaker 3: He said it again right at this critical moment. I
Speaker 3: mean that that that makes you realize that it is
Speaker 3: not just it wasn't just a slip of the tone.
Speaker 3: It's now like, oh shit, like that's what they're going for. Horrible,
Speaker 3: It's awful. There's a reason people still mention where the
Speaker 3: big boys play, but they don't mention you know what
Speaker 3: the world is.
Speaker 2: Watching now, Yeah, because that one sucks just awful.
Speaker 3: You can see as he steps behind Michael Buffer how
Speaker 3: tall Shack is like. The print on his shirt is
Speaker 3: over the shoulders of Michael Buffer in the foreground. He's
Speaker 3: such a fucking beast. Ladies and gentlemen. This match sanctioned
Speaker 3: by the WCW Championship Committee and will be supervised by
Speaker 3: w CW Commissioner mister Nick Bockwinkle. The referee assigned is
Speaker 3: Randy Anderson. Ladies and gentlemen. Just a few days the
Speaker 3: world will celebrate the twenty fifth anniversary of one of
Speaker 3: the greatest moments in the history of the twentieth century,
Speaker 3: Man's first steps on the surface of the Moon. Tonight,
Speaker 3: a quarter a quarter of a century later, just miles
Speaker 3: from the very site where Neil Armstrong and buzz Aldren
Speaker 3: were catapulted into outer space to meet their destiny, Tonight,
Speaker 3: two of the greatest stars and the world of professional
Speaker 3: wrestling are about to collide. Ladies and gentlemen from our Lindo, Florida.
Speaker 3: Let's get ready to rumble. Hogan pulling on the ropes
Speaker 3: flare with the tile pacing back rub for the Nature
Speaker 3: Boy by Sherry Ring is full of people, so many
Speaker 3: hangers on, it's like, oh no kidding a boxing ring.
Speaker 3: Introducing first accompanied by his manager, Jimmy Mouth from the
Speaker 3: South Heart Mouth from the South. Yes, you're to watch
Speaker 3: his back, providing security. The maniac Mugger from the South
Speaker 3: Side of Chicago. The infamous mister t. Do you know
Speaker 3: what infamous means?
Speaker 2: Infamous? Don't?
Speaker 3: That's not something to wear as a tagline.
Speaker 2: No, not at all.
Speaker 3: Looks like such a fated celebrity in they're all bloated
Speaker 3: and still clinging to the look he is. He's a
Speaker 3: faded celebrity. He's got nothing left. Our Challenger comes in
Speaker 3: wearing yellow, weighing two hundred and seventy five and three
Speaker 3: quarter pounds. He is, without a doubt, one of the
Speaker 3: most well known faces in the world. Tonight, But tonight,
Speaker 3: the magazine covers and the movies must take a backseat tonight.
Speaker 3: O Hey, Hogan, force that one in there tonight. After
Speaker 3: a three year layoff. He said it again, he said
Speaker 3: three years again, three years he must, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3: Introducing the Challenger, a former five time world champion, the
Speaker 3: six foot seven inch Hulkster hulk Hogad he.
Speaker 2: Rips off the bandana rows. I love Michael Buffer, but man,
Speaker 2: he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. Sometimes
Speaker 2: that's true, he really doesn't.
Speaker 3: Just reads what he's told to read, rips off the
Speaker 3: bandana as the ulksterra after his name is announced, throws
Speaker 3: it at Flair and the crowd explodes when he does that.
Speaker 3: I didn't see a WWF wrestling buddy in the crowd.
Speaker 3: Wild to see all this WWF merch being brought to
Speaker 3: the w C show. And good on them for introducing
Speaker 3: Hulk That was a nice detail. They didn't introduce him second,
Speaker 3: even though you know they rarely care about champion introductions.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I I did appreciate that he
Speaker 2: came out he came out last, but they did introduce
Speaker 2: him first, and that was a wise move.
Speaker 3: I thought, very much so, because it lets Flare kind
Speaker 3: of shine a little bit here. Yeah, because he's about
Speaker 3: to go down, but he he gets moment in the
Speaker 3: limelight as bigger, feeling bigger at least in this moment
Speaker 3: than Hulkogan, which is important for him and his opponent
Speaker 3: wearing the color purple. What did he get Spielberg's approval
Speaker 3: on it? Weighing two hundred and thirty four and one
Speaker 3: half pounds from Charlotte, North Carolina. We have one of
Speaker 3: the all time greats and professional wrestling. He enters the
Speaker 3: ring tonight in the company of Sensuous Sherry. And he
Speaker 3: enters this ring doing what he has done his entire career,
Speaker 3: meeting all obstacles and accepting all challenges. Why is he
Speaker 3: doing this proving again and again that he is indeed
Speaker 3: one of the all time greats. Ladies and gentlemen, presenting
Speaker 3: the eleven time heavyweight Champion of the World, the Nature
Speaker 3: Boy Real and they break out and booze and Flair
Speaker 3: hits the rope signs as Flair as the man, eleven
Speaker 3: time champ Woo shack up, hoists the big gold especially
Speaker 3: high in his muscle shirt and shaking his head and
Speaker 3: shaking his head at Flair and Hogan next to Shaw
Speaker 3: like me and you fuck how fuck you up? And
Speaker 3: Hogan with the wristband of course with this is Hogan.
Speaker 3: So who's got to start wearing those sweat bands all
Speaker 3: the time in w CW. That's very w C W.
Speaker 3: Hogan to wear those Yes, the ring clears, Randy Anderson
Speaker 3: signals for the bell. Heenan says, I never thought i'd
Speaker 3: see them back in the ring, Shivanni, And here they
Speaker 3: are Hulk Hogan versus Rick Flair Bash at the Beach
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety four. They circle wild Hogan jogging around the ring.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's got a cover base.
Speaker 2: Oh it's a flight seeing him because he's so fucking scrawn.
Speaker 3: I know, it's such a like when he takes that
Speaker 3: shirt off, it's like whoa.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's just you know, he when you see
Speaker 2: him so thin and you see kind of everything's long,
Speaker 2: it's very weird because you.
Speaker 3: Never thought of long. We thought him as tall, but
Speaker 3: no lanky. Right right here he is and his lenkiest best.
Speaker 3: So they're circling and Hulk's getting a feel for the
Speaker 3: ropes and bouncing off of them. And Heenan says, the
Speaker 3: world title looks like cufflings or shaquill O'Neil, which is true,
Speaker 3: That is very true. Hogan smirks as they stare down,
Speaker 3: knowing they got to this point and it's something special.
Speaker 3: The main is a problem on Hogan does that it
Speaker 3: go too long in the back.
Speaker 2: It is a little too long, big problem, Yes, no
Speaker 2: question there there there are, There are problems. There are
Speaker 2: problems among us.
Speaker 3: Hogan all smiles, is there jaw jacking. Flair goes to
Speaker 3: shove and Hogan gets the brotherer face like we're gonna
Speaker 3: go that, We're gonna.
Speaker 2: Go like that.
Speaker 3: So then Flair the headlock shot off over the top
Speaker 3: he goes and Hogan tackles down Flair to a big pop.
Speaker 3: When Flair hits that mat, Flair like, holy shit, I
Speaker 3: can't believe the power I just felt. Back back up,
Speaker 3: lock up to the corner. Hogan shoves off Flair and
Speaker 3: you know what Flair does. I mean, if he's gonna
Speaker 3: get pushed off the corner, he's gonna go head over
Speaker 3: heels as he should, one corner of the ring of
Speaker 3: the other.
Speaker 2: For the industry. I mean, what do you think we're
Speaker 2: doing here? All right?
Speaker 3: Flair is wearing the light purple of his San Francisco
Speaker 3: toy maker's toy. Yes he is hard to deal with,
Speaker 3: but there it is.
Speaker 2: Yes he is, he says.
Speaker 3: Hogan is trimmed down, say the least.
Speaker 2: And he's definitely leaner that's for sure. Flair question about.
Speaker 3: That, ducks under and complains of a hair poll and
Speaker 3: acts like he's going to step to Jimmy hard and
Speaker 3: Heenan says, I'm gonna tell all the great points about
Speaker 3: hull Cogan that way when Rick beats him, so that
Speaker 3: will make me feel really great. So in other words,
Speaker 3: he's he's trying to like come up with a reason
Speaker 3: that he is a hull Cogan hater would be emphasizing
Speaker 3: so many positive qualities during the call of Hull Cogan,
Speaker 3: So credit to him for thinking that one through.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they're gonna.
Speaker 3: Definitely when Bush comes to shove, they're gonna want Heenan
Speaker 3: to celebrate that bought that hul Cogan's in WCW more
Speaker 3: than to cry it. So Flair ducks under a lock
Speaker 3: up and struts around a bit and they cite the uh,
Speaker 3: they cite something, so the Flair tugs the rope. Heenan says,
Speaker 3: no one's buying popcorn or in the kitchen. They are
Speaker 3: glued to this match right now, which feels accurate, which
Speaker 3: is always nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, listen, I agreed to a degree
Speaker 2: that that is the case. It's still it's a weird
Speaker 2: bold claim.
Speaker 3: But yeah, just one guy getting popcorn and he ruins
Speaker 3: the whole thing. But right, right, I don't know when
Speaker 3: wrestler would announced. Wresting announcers make especially boisterous claims and
Speaker 3: they seem like they could be borderline true. Then you
Speaker 3: know you're actually dealing with something that actually is special
Speaker 3: because it doesn't sound like unfounded hyperbole, which they'll say
Speaker 3: whether it's justified or not. So Heenan says, talk about
Speaker 3: the butterflies that both have in their stomachs. Right now,
Speaker 3: is Hogan ducks under a lock up and does a
Speaker 3: strut mocking Ric Flair, even combs his hair like Ric
Speaker 3: Flair does, brushes it back, does the woo, and they
Speaker 3: kind of love it. They love that he's in here
Speaker 3: cocky enough to mock the nature boy and Flair has
Speaker 3: to stand there and take it. The way he popped
Speaker 3: up with his hips with his hands on his hips, Hogan,
Speaker 3: it's so funny. Yeah, the way he's brilliant doing the
Speaker 3: right guard pose or whatever it is. Hogan, think of
Speaker 3: his face like stroke at his chin at wrestlemane.
Speaker 2: Oh god, he's so annoying. He's annoying brook teen. He's
Speaker 2: excited though, Yeah.
Speaker 3: A little eight year old to whatever she is. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: good eyes. She's ready lock up. Flair to the headlock
Speaker 3: and the hammer lock, and he picks the leg of
Speaker 3: the Holkster and hammer locks him. And you can hear
Speaker 3: the fans like that that Flair is out wrestling Hogan
Speaker 3: and Flair puts the arm ring around Holk gets onto
Speaker 3: his knee and Tony says, fans are responding to every
Speaker 3: movie here as Flair is creaking the wrist, Hogan gets up.
Speaker 2: Nothing's happened. I know there's work in the arm like
Speaker 2: nothing like Shavani. They haven't had enough moves for people
Speaker 2: to react like they've done nothing.
Speaker 3: They do love that Flair put Hogan on the mat.
Speaker 3: They do love that. But Flair then trips him down
Speaker 3: and maintains control. Flair with a woo for the people
Speaker 3: and talk about how even the referee must be nervous.
Speaker 2: This is so big.
Speaker 3: That's what they say in commentary, which I thought was
Speaker 3: a nice touch. They don't want to make it. You know,
Speaker 3: the ref is feeling pressure too. They point out, he
Speaker 3: doesn't want to make a bad call or have to
Speaker 3: disqualify somebody and be the bad guy and then ruin
Speaker 3: this historic matchup. I really like that one, kind of
Speaker 3: getting you into the psychology of the ref a bit.
Speaker 3: They don't do that enough.
Speaker 2: Hogan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, you know what I mean? It works, Yeah,
Speaker 3: making them feel kind of human too. You don't want
Speaker 3: to overemphasize because the ref should never be two gratuitous
Speaker 3: a part of the match, but to never mention them
Speaker 3: it's kind of weird too, agreed. Hogan comes up and
Speaker 3: Flair yanks him down again. Tony says, Sherry is barred
Speaker 3: last Saturday. However, Flair made sure that Nick Bockwinkle told
Speaker 3: us she would be here at ringside, so she was
Speaker 3: instrumental and Flair becoming the unified champion, they point out,
Speaker 3: and she will they expect to have an involvement here.
Speaker 3: Hogan is reversed and pulls down Rick Flair to will pop.
Speaker 3: He does the new Japan arm bar for the industry.
Speaker 2: You know that goes, I mean, Jesus Christ, he definitely,
Speaker 2: you know, he steps, he does, he does. Listen, he
Speaker 2: brought in he brought in his arsenal from from Japan
Speaker 2: because he's here to wrestle. Not just fight the bullshit
Speaker 2: they do in New York.
Speaker 3: Claire Flair stands up, gets on the chin and steps
Speaker 3: on Hogan Hogan's face as a matter of fact, puts
Speaker 3: the boot on the chin and Hogan pops up and
Speaker 3: does a hoof at that one, and Flair takes off,
Speaker 3: takes off, pulls sherry in front of them, immediately shield
Speaker 3: fans want and this is it?
Speaker 2: She fucking tons.
Speaker 3: He's pointing at her, she's pointing at him.
Speaker 2: What kind of champion is amazing? It's amazing.
Speaker 3: Jaw jacking, Flair keeping it school on the floor, not worried,
Speaker 3: Hogan doing this, arms back and forth, pumped up thing.
Speaker 3: They get back in the ring, lock up, Hogan shifts
Speaker 3: to the drop toe hold because again, we're not on
Speaker 3: the side of the Pacific.
Speaker 2: You think we are, No, we're not.
Speaker 3: Is concerned that ring at bash of the beach is
Speaker 3: the jurisdiction of Japan.
Speaker 2: I guess. So that's what I'm learning, because he's working
Speaker 2: holds like he's exactly he is out there. He's chain grappling.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Okay, the chain is out and he's grappling
Speaker 2: off the chain in a lot of ways. What the
Speaker 2: fuck's amazing. So he does really drop to such a
Speaker 2: wild thing.
Speaker 3: Drop toe hold, like, come on, Hogan, big goofy ass
Speaker 3: hole Kogan.
Speaker 2: He's seriously like, yeah, exactly with his fucking like tree
Speaker 2: trunk legs, you know, like these these these long things,
Speaker 2: and he's just dropping down. God trip that, like, brother,
Speaker 2: you'll do I think we should do drop toward calling
Speaker 2: it in the locker room, you know. Flair to the
Speaker 2: middle rope, Ahogan running back on Flair's head on the ropes,
Speaker 2: and Flair comes up and charges and uh goes into
Speaker 2: the corner. Flair bumping for these hard and fast. He's
Speaker 2: knocking them around. Flair is so intense, the way he's
Speaker 2: taking these shots. Whipped to the corner, Hogan clips him
Speaker 2: with the lariat and Flair flops backwards into the center
Speaker 2: of the ring, begging off. Now back up whipping A
Speaker 2: boot goes up, but Flair hangs on and bales before
Speaker 2: he eats the big boot. Flair gets behind Sherry again
Speaker 2: to shield himself. Hogan comes out with the fist cock.
Speaker 2: Jimmy Hart at this point comes over and Hogan pushes
Speaker 2: Sherry off to the side and Flair catches Hogan on
Speaker 2: the way in with the knee of the face and
Speaker 2: some boots to the corner. Chopped by the nature boy,
Speaker 2: Hogan stumbles out and another from Flair, and we get
Speaker 2: the over the shoulder shot of Shaquila Neil watching very intently.
Speaker 3: He just takes it all in. He doesn't disappear. Flaire
Speaker 3: goes to the gut and her right hand to the
Speaker 3: face and a snapmre. He calls for the knee drop.
Speaker 3: We can hear it loudly on the broadcast. He does
Speaker 3: hear that, and then indeed he does it. Hogan comes
Speaker 3: up hoofing, though he comes up hoofing from the knee drop,
Speaker 3: and Flare is begging off in the corner. At that
Speaker 3: Hogan does a corner mount ring down, some punches, then
Speaker 3: waves the finger. He's not gonna punch, He's gonna bite.
Speaker 3: He starts biting with Claire in the forehead. Finally, Flair
Speaker 3: punches away at the count of nine, corner to corner.
Speaker 2: Whipon.
Speaker 3: Flaiir bounces off, Glariot down goes Flair. Flare's begging off again.
Speaker 3: Hogan sends him into the far corner and then the
Speaker 3: opposite corner. A right hand wobbles the nature boy. Sherry
Speaker 3: grabs the ankle on the ropes and Rick ambushes him
Speaker 3: with a flying knee to the back. Sherry with her
Speaker 3: hands on her hips, doing a little gloating dance, very
Speaker 3: proud of herself at ringside, and he says, Hulk was
Speaker 3: going to kick her. That's what happened. That's Flaire chops
Speaker 3: Hulk up and over the ropes, Hulk taking the big
Speaker 3: bump off the chop man. Holp's here to each chump
Speaker 3: plunge over the top.
Speaker 2: He's listen again. He's here, he's here to work. He's
Speaker 2: got his boots on. Okay, boots are on. He's ready
Speaker 2: to go. And uh.
Speaker 5: I just.
Speaker 2: Like, can you imagine that? Part of me was one
Speaker 2: thinking to myself, so so so Flair's got Hogan going
Speaker 2: for the ride, and what if what if Flair fucking
Speaker 2: just took Hogan right in front of his family and
Speaker 2: just fucking took a razor to Hogan's head right in
Speaker 2: front of his fucking kid kids, you know, and his
Speaker 2: wife and Chris Lemon Hogan agrees too, you know, exactly, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: that's the thing, Brothers, some color dude, Let's get some
Speaker 2: hisy dude, and get some color right in front of
Speaker 2: the fan. Brother, I love it. That's great idea. Maybe
Speaker 2: we could stab him in the head with a fork too,
Speaker 2: He's got that ball and there we go. Oh god,
Speaker 2: this is a fucking vile.
Speaker 3: Things that could have been. After Flair chops Hogan out
Speaker 3: of the ring, But what does happen to Sherry grabs
Speaker 3: a red a folding chair, she lifts it up and
Speaker 3: Jimmy Hart makes this the save to a pop, takes
Speaker 3: it away and here we see Linda watching in the
Speaker 3: front row as Flaire stomps from the apron to Hulk's head.
Speaker 3: Flaire rams Hulk into the guardrail. Hogan chance break out.
Speaker 3: As Hoglan's rolled back into the ring, Flair climbs up
Speaker 3: and rains down a single axe handle blow. Flair walking around,
Speaker 3: pointing and talking shit to Bill Shaw and Tony and
Speaker 3: Oki Aaron, Hank Aaron, and then he turns Hulk's body
Speaker 3: around on the mattin lines up the knee drop perfectly.
Speaker 3: Heenan says, don't waste a second, Rick, don't waste a second.
Speaker 3: That's just such a wonderful attitud from Bobby Heena to
Speaker 3: be saying that because he's still nervous, and he still
Speaker 3: wants Rick to just grab the victory as soon as
Speaker 3: you can possibly get it. It's such a lack of confidence.
Speaker 3: You know that Hogan isn't gonna at some point come back.
Speaker 3: Jimmy Hart with the megaphone gets the Hogan chant going.
Speaker 3: Heenan tells him to shut up, but they don't. To
Speaker 3: the corner, they go and Flare with the right hands.
Speaker 3: Hogan starts firing back and takes some chops and fires
Speaker 3: through and throws chops of his own right hand drops
Speaker 3: the nature boy.
Speaker 2: Heen doing the hole.
Speaker 3: Come on, come on. When Flare starts losing ground the
Speaker 3: greatest things in wrestling. When he does that, Flair begs off.
Speaker 3: Oh talk about it.
Speaker 2: It's just I mean, all of this between Heenan and
Speaker 2: his reactions Flair Flair. When when Flair backs off Hogan,
Speaker 2: We've seen him do the same thing a million times
Speaker 2: to other people, but when he does it with Hogan,
Speaker 2: there's something about it I just cannot describe. It's there's
Speaker 2: something more electric about it. There's something that it means
Speaker 2: more when it's Hogan who's not responding to Flair's yes moves,
Speaker 2: It's just it's great.
Speaker 3: There just seems to be more genuine fear in Flaire's
Speaker 3: eyes that there is absolutely nothing he can truly do
Speaker 3: to hurt this man. Yeah, and the way Hogan carries
Speaker 3: himself and the size differential is perfect to get that across,
Speaker 3: Like even Stain similarly sized to Flair. So it was like, yes,
Speaker 3: it was hard to believe that Flair was really freaking
Speaker 3: out that his chops weren't working. But with Hogan, it's like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, this guy keeps coming forward and and
Speaker 3: and you know what adds to it, honestly for this
Speaker 3: particular match is Tony because there is something just I
Speaker 3: love hearing how passionate Tony Shavanni gets when Hogan is
Speaker 3: like getting on the attack, an attack with Hogan.
Speaker 4: Shut up, he's taken the tow.
Speaker 2: My mom.
Speaker 23: Took his desk top and he's walking right straight toward
Speaker 23: the nighttime.
Speaker 2: Boy again fucking Bravo, Like like Chavanni is in there,
Speaker 2: he is, he's fucking money all right, like you know,
Speaker 2: really he's he's he he brings such a passion like
Speaker 2: you get you feel like he's genuinely excited that Hulk
Speaker 2: Hogan is there. Yes, you do and it was.
Speaker 3: But he's watching Hulk Hogan. Yeah, he gets to call
Speaker 3: all the Cogan matches. Now, that's like, yep, the pinnacle
Speaker 3: of announcing at the time. Yeah, yeah, it must be
Speaker 3: something to be to feel like, oh my god, I'm
Speaker 3: watching something that is not clearly inferior from a public
Speaker 3: perception standpoint to WWS wrestling, and in fact I'm watching
Speaker 3: something that actually has an honest shot of taking us
Speaker 3: pay more seriously, which I would like, just professionally to
Speaker 3: be the case. And yeah, so heen is losing his mind.
Speaker 3: Flare begs off hold him with the right hand. Flair
Speaker 3: drops down with a double leg and tries to get
Speaker 3: two feet on the rope to cheat and get a count.
Speaker 2: But no count.
Speaker 3: I don't even know why the ref didn't bother Flair
Speaker 3: with some chops corner corner reversed and Flair hits Hulk
Speaker 3: drops him with a Larry Flair hits the buckle, and
Speaker 3: Hulk drops him with the Big lariat and covers him
Speaker 3: for two. Heenan says, Rick's got to realize how much
Speaker 3: time is left and where the ropes are cover Come on,
Speaker 3: come on. Flair goes up to the gut snapmar on
Speaker 3: a sleeper hold by the Nature Boy. As Jimmy hard
Speaker 3: is saying watch the choke into the megaphone, Hogan chant
Speaker 3: breaks out. They get a nice panting shot of the
Speaker 3: Orlando Arenas. Tony calls it the biggest wrestling pay per
Speaker 3: view if I ever, because these two, the two greatest
Speaker 3: superstars in the history of wrestling, are battling it out.
Speaker 3: And he says of all time, as a matter of fact.
Speaker 3: And Tony says, I think that's what I said all
Speaker 3: the time. He says, I can here. It's deafening in here.
Speaker 3: You don't have to yell at me. He says, quote,
Speaker 3: you don't have to yell at me, Shavanni, I'm not blind,
Speaker 3: Bill Shaw. They're still standing next to Nick Bockwinkle watching things.
Speaker 3: He's locked in like he's watching Julius Irving or something
Speaker 3: like that. And Jimmy on the megaphone, this is what
Speaker 3: we waited for, baby, All the hula maniacs over the world. Man,
Speaker 3: come on, baby Hulk and the Hulka Phone is what
Speaker 3: they call him, the Hulcaphone.
Speaker 2: The Hulk of Phone. Come on, What the fuck is
Speaker 2: that about?
Speaker 3: You see Linda shouting I love that. I love people
Speaker 3: who know it's a fake when they go to the match,
Speaker 3: is still cheer on their relatives like it's real. Anderson
Speaker 3: raises the arm twice, but not the third time. The
Speaker 3: fingers start waggon.
Speaker 2: You know what that means. And you know what even
Speaker 2: fucking Randy Anderson is exciting that right when Hogan's arm, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you look at his face. He's excited that Hogan's arm
Speaker 2: doesn't drop the third time.
Speaker 3: Business is picking up. Everyone has a role to play,
Speaker 3: so the fingers wag Hulk builds up. Heenan, I don't
Speaker 3: like the looks of this, and he says. Hogan elbows
Speaker 3: out of the whole tackle tackle.
Speaker 2: Flair begs off.
Speaker 3: Hogan throws on the head corner a corner Whitflair goes
Speaker 3: inside out to the apron because Flair's about to turn
Speaker 3: the fucking heat up.
Speaker 2: All right, listen, listen, He's here. He's here to take
Speaker 2: everything up.
Speaker 3: A notch, takes the buckle like that, lands on the
Speaker 3: apron and bam eats a lariot and takes the big
Speaker 3: bump off of the apron. His Tony says, upside down
Speaker 3: downtown Orlando, He's fired up. Hogan, Oh yeah, goes out
Speaker 3: after him. Flair swings Douc. Flair takes a backsuplex right
Speaker 3: there on the floor. He then says that's a bad move.
Speaker 3: If Flare counted out, he keeps the title. If Flair
Speaker 3: is counted out, he's going to keep the title. He's screaming,
Speaker 3: he's panicked. We need more panic denouncers and wrestling. We
Speaker 3: need someone at ringside who's panicking at the prospect of
Speaker 3: one or the other guy losing. Flair goes to the apron,
Speaker 3: Hogan snatches him outside in soup lex from Hogan. Hogan's
Speaker 3: signals he's gonna get the one, two, three cups. The
Speaker 3: year goes up, missus the leg drop. We haven't seen
Speaker 3: Hogan miss the leg drop since fucking wrestling.
Speaker 2: He's six wool and that's and that and again, like
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, the fact that Hogan goes for the
Speaker 2: leg drop like in the middle of the mask. Yes,
Speaker 2: that's right, that's important. That is incredibly important.
Speaker 3: At the end of the comeback, the punches in the boot, right,
Speaker 3: he needs to slap the figure for on him and
Speaker 3: take him to school. And uh, he even calls He
Speaker 3: even calls back to the episode of w W Saturday
Speaker 3: Night when Flair clipped the leg of Hogan and that
Speaker 3: ping dibbn's ear. So Flair hooks the leg and steps over,
Speaker 3: but an inside cradle and their nuts for that one too.
Speaker 3: Not enough for the Hulkster, but men were they into it.
Speaker 3: Flair back on the leg, steps over, Hogan kicks them off.
Speaker 3: Flair takes the bump on the matt ailing as Hulk
Speaker 3: Hogan as Rick Flair closes in, steps over and again
Speaker 3: he's kicked off. Flair closes in once again, hooks up
Speaker 3: a sup plex and my god, does Flaire deliver the
Speaker 3: best sup plex Hulk Cogan has ever taken in his
Speaker 3: fucking lift. He elevates, he delays, and he dumps. It's
Speaker 3: awesome and Hogan immediately turns and stands up and he
Speaker 3: and he goes yes, yes, yes, when Flaiir hits it,
Speaker 3: and then when Hogan stands up, he goes no, no, no,
Speaker 3: Hogan Ogan wagging the finger, No big boot, right hands,
Speaker 3: they're channing the big boot. He kicks him and then
Speaker 3: he whips him in and hits the big boot right
Speaker 3: here into the face. Cover one two for the ref
Speaker 3: can slap three Sherry pulls the referee out and throws
Speaker 3: the ref into the guard rail, and Jimmy Hart comes
Speaker 3: over and Sherry decks him as well. Hogan is now
Speaker 3: kind of like pointing down at Sherry from the ring,
Speaker 3: and Flair Chop blocks the leg from behind on the Hulkster.
Speaker 3: He's dragging Hulk to the corner now so Sherry can
Speaker 3: climb the ropes and she's and she goes up and
Speaker 3: she's fucking great. She just soars and splashes Hulkgan off
Speaker 3: the top.
Speaker 2: Roy, please, I need more like just Sherry O.
Speaker 3: Reason he called upon her to make this first WCW
Speaker 3: match work.
Speaker 2: Yes, he knows what she can do.
Speaker 3: Sherry slides out of the ring, the referees out as well.
Speaker 3: Doug Dillinger is out chicking on things, and Nick Patrick.
Speaker 2: Is the referee now, Jesus fucking Christ exactly as if
Speaker 2: we need Nick Patrick.
Speaker 3: Again, all your prayers answer Boss, the worst of the worst.
Speaker 2: He slides in.
Speaker 3: Heenan notes he's not waving it off here, he's letting
Speaker 3: it go. Flair turns over, drop down, locks out the
Speaker 3: figure four. There's a pop there for sure. Sherry starts celebrating.
Speaker 3: Heen and hey, the legs. Take it that he sees.
Speaker 3: He keeps saying, those are legs that haven't been in
Speaker 3: the ring in three years.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, enough with this ship with stand.
Speaker 3: The figure four, snap it like a chicken wing heen
Speaker 3: and says their fever pitch in Orlando. They're standing, they are.
Speaker 3: Hogan is reaching for the ceiling, trying to draw the strength.
Speaker 3: Hogan fans leaning over the rail and everything. Hulk backs
Speaker 3: into the ropes, grabs the ropes. Flair gives the break.
Speaker 3: He grabs Nick Patrick, and Sherry comes over and she
Speaker 3: takes off her pantyhose and chokes Hulk with it and.
Speaker 2: Rags his face. I fuck please, I love it. She's
Speaker 2: such a fuck crook.
Speaker 8: She is she is. Oh.
Speaker 3: Flair kicks the leg. Hogan is standing but limping. Heenan
Speaker 3: with a great Hogan's hurt like he smells blood in
Speaker 3: the water. Tony says she looked to Nick. He said
Speaker 3: it's fine for Nick to continue the match since Randy
Speaker 3: is unable to. It's fine according to Nick Buckwinkle that
Speaker 3: Nick Patrick continues referee with Randy Anderson undisposed. Rick kicking
Speaker 3: away the leg chop. Hulk's hair is stringy now man,
Speaker 3: he is in full sweat. He is soaking, and that
Speaker 3: means the hair is cascading down almost like icicles another
Speaker 3: and Hulk is like no, no. Heenan says, oh my no.
Speaker 3: Flair attacking the body. Heenan switches gears and says, says,
Speaker 3: switch gears, turn it on nature Boy, and Flair is
Speaker 3: backing up, realizing that nothing is working, and he it's
Speaker 3: panicking because it's not work, and he's telling himself that
Speaker 3: Flair can just kick into another gear and hurd Hogan
Speaker 3: again it's not working. Hogan's slugging away six times with
Speaker 3: the right hands corner to corner whip. Flair takes a
Speaker 3: back elbow. Hogan sells that great. Sherry gets on top,
Speaker 3: ref sees it, pointing her out. She leaps aimlessly and
Speaker 3: they pop at that. She leaps and misses. Flair goes up,
Speaker 3: Hogan cuts him off. This is the wrestling business. This
Speaker 3: is Rick Flair on pay per view in the main event.
Speaker 3: He's going to get gorilla pressed off the top rope.
Speaker 3: And that's exactly, of course, that's what needs to happen,
Speaker 3: all right, What do you think we're fucking here to do?
Speaker 3: Flair picks up Sherry. Hogan hits Flair with a lariat
Speaker 3: and uh and that doesn't that cause him to swat
Speaker 3: at Sherry yep, and she drops out.
Speaker 24: Ye.
Speaker 3: Hogan strets around, cuts the year, steps into the figure four.
Speaker 3: Tony loses his mind to the prospect of Hulk Cogan
Speaker 3: applying the figure four.
Speaker 8: This is yes.
Speaker 3: I did not remember this spot until I watched it back.
Speaker 3: That Hulk goes for the figure four. It's insane this match,
Speaker 3: is it really?
Speaker 2: Yes? This is what's going on for a huole comania.
Speaker 3: Heenan says, if he beats him with his own hold,
Speaker 3: this will be the biggest disgrace in the history of wrestling.
Speaker 3: Sherry gets on the apron trying to get the object
Speaker 3: out of her legs. She's got some foreign object, and
Speaker 3: Hogan grabs their object.
Speaker 2: It goes flying.
Speaker 3: Sherry falls down onto mister t whose ring side, and
Speaker 3: mister t just holds her like he's taken her across
Speaker 3: the threshold and walks her off. He's gonna take care
Speaker 3: of her, that's his role, as Heenan says, he's kidnapping her.
Speaker 3: Linda with a great cell. As Sherry falls down onto
Speaker 3: mister T. She like recoils from the guardbrail, like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, this is crazy.
Speaker 2: Flair.
Speaker 3: He's got the object now, the one that Sherry tossed
Speaker 3: before she gets knocked into the waiting arms of mister T. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's got the object. It's basically white knucks and he
Speaker 3: nails Hogan in the face with it, and Hogan falls down,
Speaker 3: and you think this is it. You think they're gonna
Speaker 3: screw Hogan. Flaiir covers one too.
Speaker 2: You do get that vibe, he really did, do you
Speaker 2: honestly get the vibe like it seems like it might
Speaker 2: happen because Hogan's already gone for the leg drop, you know,
Speaker 2: all all these all these things. It seems like it
Speaker 2: might happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were smart about kind of like you're saying,
Speaker 3: taking those cues that the match might be over and
Speaker 3: in front loading them in the match, and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, it's like.
Speaker 2: Oh where else are they gonna go? Here?
Speaker 3: So Flair covers one two, Hogan kicks out. He hulks up.
Speaker 3: Damn it, Heenan says, realizing what's happening. Oh boy, Claire
Speaker 3: hitting him to the knees. He says, I've seen this
Speaker 3: so many times, he still gets the hair shaken. He's
Speaker 3: got the adrenaline.
Speaker 2: Hulkaman. He is alive.
Speaker 3: He declares like he like it's Frankenstein's Monsters, and then
Speaker 3: Flair swings. No cell but the Hulkster over and over,
Speaker 3: No Cell. Flair hits and he's dropped by a tackle,
Speaker 3: hits the ropes. Hogan right hands, crowd counting along with him,
Speaker 3: Irish whip, big boot.
Speaker 8: Here we go.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna We're gonna play this because it's home Pal
Speaker 2: Hogan in the w W ring.
Speaker 5: Hogan is still going.
Speaker 8: He is still going.
Speaker 5: Back.
Speaker 2: No, yes, I do like, I don't want to think that,
Speaker 2: so no, no, I no.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine tucking that into the announcement of Hogan
Speaker 3: winning his first w c W belt.
Speaker 2: What the fuck is wrong with that guy? So random
Speaker 2: seven get out of here cares? Who fucking cares about
Speaker 2: six foot seven idiots?
Speaker 3: So they get some real fireworks up in the air.
Speaker 3: He didn't great on the go home. I'll do anything
Speaker 3: because he knows he's hitting the ropes. It's over, yea,
Speaker 3: great stuff, great stuff. They're all in there, sweating like
Speaker 3: crazy with the title. Holgan has a hug for Bill Shaw.
Speaker 3: Fireworks dissolve over the image and Heenan's as Tony tell me,
Speaker 3: it's a nightmare. Is Hull Cochan the heavyweight Champion of
Speaker 3: the World and Tony says, it's for real, hulkmen he
Speaker 3: is alive in World Championship Wrestling. Heenan says his first
Speaker 3: month in WSW he sets the all time attendance record,
Speaker 3: pay per view record for WCW searts match rather, i
Speaker 3: should say, and becomes heavyweight Champion of the World and
Speaker 3: breaks down like he's crying at all of these things
Speaker 3: that Hulk Cochin has achieved. Man, did Bobby Heenan earn
Speaker 3: his money on this night or what?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 2: This was a good one. This was you know this,
Speaker 2: this had shade that There's nothing that can, of course
Speaker 2: top his his two royal rumble calls, But you know
Speaker 2: this is for an individual match.
Speaker 3: This is top notche Yeah, this is what WCW paid
Speaker 3: for when they paid for Bobby Heenon right here, right exactly,
Speaker 3: Arkler shooting up the aisle way, Hogan posing. Heenan says,
Speaker 3: it's the worst day and Tony says, it's a great day.
Speaker 3: And the history of professional wrestlings two great champions come
Speaker 3: together and the Holkster becomes the w W Heavyweight Champion
Speaker 3: of the World. Heenan with the what is going to
Speaker 3: happen on Saturday Night line and uh Holdan gloating and flanding.
Speaker 3: They're wondering is he going to goat and flaunt about this?
Speaker 3: Jimmy's cackling away in the megaphone. Is Hogan cups and
Speaker 3: poses for all four sides of the ring here in
Speaker 3: World Championship Wrestling. You can see Nick a little Nick
Speaker 3: there down with with with family, Linda standing up as well,
Speaker 3: Hogan telling him to get up and cupping, and Tony says,
Speaker 3: a lot of build up. You've got here, one of
Speaker 3: the greatest matches we've ever had. Both men were ready,
Speaker 3: both in phenomenal shape, Both men had come to fight,
Speaker 3: and in the end it was the Holkster's big foot
Speaker 3: and big legs. See you and Heenan says it's the
Speaker 3: greatest match he's ever seen.
Speaker 2: He does to come out and say that, well, I
Speaker 2: mean that is that is a fucking that's a that's
Speaker 2: a statement, that is a statement, great, greatest match I've
Speaker 2: ever seen.
Speaker 3: Hogan up the aisle time he says time that it's
Speaker 3: time left. You can tell they're dragging this one out
Speaker 3: as cam.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I know, because there's like a ten
Speaker 2: minute PostScript for christ yep.
Speaker 3: They they they show Hogan walking around in the back.
Speaker 3: You catch a shot at Bischoff for a second. You
Speaker 3: can see him there. You can see a better angle
Speaker 3: on the white forne object. They replay that that flare
Speaker 3: hit him with there in the critical final moments and
Speaker 3: they ask Hulk gine Oakerland does what can you say?
Speaker 3: And you see Bishoff there. I told Brutus, I told
Speaker 3: you three months ago what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm wondering where fuck Bruteye was. I'm during this
Speaker 2: fucking match. They have mister t in shack, but not
Speaker 2: not brute Eye.
Speaker 3: See Brian Blair as well, Hogan's other buddy from Tampa
Speaker 3: Brothers there. Then he steps to Hacksaw. He says, you
Speaker 3: look and Slim and Trim brother, the hack attack is back, brother,
Speaker 3: I like it. To the dressing room get and they
Speaker 3: say we're going to get more word with the Hulks tournament.
Speaker 3: And I don't know why they do it twice, but
Speaker 3: they do.
Speaker 2: I know it's it's ridiculous, but over heal heart and.
Speaker 3: The ability to come back from the figure four and uh,
Speaker 3: Jimmy Harrit comes in all the whope maniacs. He's often
Speaker 3: like an interview location. Jean greets him to some applause.
Speaker 3: I have been down the road with this man.
Speaker 2: I got it.
Speaker 16: Here we go, all right, I thank you very much, Tony,
Speaker 16: Bobby Heenan, and this capacity crowd on hand and dignitaries
Speaker 16: are filling this reception.
Speaker 1: Are you, ladies and gentlemen. I have been down the
Speaker 1: road with this man.
Speaker 16: And they used to say, back in the prohibition days,
Speaker 16: the good old days are back.
Speaker 1: And believe me, hul Cogan, congratulate.
Speaker 16: Boy, whatever ventilations WCW Heavyweight Champion.
Speaker 1: You have done it again, my friend.
Speaker 5: What a day. Well you know something mean, Gene, Everything
Speaker 5: that was old is now new again.
Speaker 15: Brother.
Speaker 5: And I told all the Hulk of maniacs, how'd you
Speaker 5: like to go on one long ride?
Speaker 2: And he said, yeah, Brother, we like to go.
Speaker 24: I said, well, that's cool, just as long is the
Speaker 24: hostess driving brother in tonight in Orlando, all the way
Speaker 24: around the world, all the way to New York City.
Speaker 24: Brother Tokyo Japan, Africa, Asia, at all points in between.
Speaker 24: Hawk Mania is running more powerful than it's ever been.
Speaker 24: Jimmy Hart was watching my back, Mister t the Maniac
Speaker 24: Mugger was roaming the crowd. Shack Attack, who was hanging
Speaker 24: on the belt, was shaking his head all the way through.
Speaker 2: For Hulk of Mania.
Speaker 24: I had George Foreman on my Hulk of Home Brother
Speaker 24: giving me beat by beat instructions, and all I.
Speaker 5: Got to say is I pity the fool brother.
Speaker 24: I feel sorry for Rick Flair because as the thousands
Speaker 24: of Hawk of Maniacs we're stocking the arena.
Speaker 5: Hack Saw Jim Duggan, one of my number one Hawk
Speaker 5: of Maniacs. The saw the crowd.
Speaker 24: Great product for coming out. Man Pilman was there, Johnny
Speaker 24: b Bad was there. We were rocking and rolling the place.
Speaker 24: And what is the w c W gonna do now
Speaker 24: that Hulkster still rules?
Speaker 1: WHOA what I gonna a great idea.
Speaker 16: I'm certain that these fans here are gonna partake in
Speaker 16: a little food and drink that I ryan great to
Speaker 16: see you, Brutus the Barber Beefcake.
Speaker 1: Brian Pillman is here.
Speaker 16: Bill Shaw, President a world champ, The Guardian Angel, and
Speaker 16: what about the contingent from Japan Saito Anookie and dignit
Speaker 16: Terry's from all over the world, hammering Hank Aaron is here,
Speaker 16: shut keel O'Neill.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a turnout.
Speaker 2: Like I mean, we knew this if these are not
Speaker 2: new people, old news like I don't. He's acting like
Speaker 2: we haven't seen them all fucking night.
Speaker 3: Know who we do see for the first time? Did
Speaker 3: you see Brian Pillman?
Speaker 2: Yes? I did, standing behind Holt, just looking at the
Speaker 2: camera just like he's in it. And that was another
Speaker 2: fucking guy put off to the sidelines. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Well he was there, I guess as a potential fill
Speaker 3: in for the Johnny b Bad match.
Speaker 2: If oh okay, if Johnny be bad, what could.
Speaker 3: If they picked if they picked him instead of Stinging.
Speaker 3: They knew they needed somebody to replace Sting, and I
Speaker 3: guess they had Pilman there and standby. But according to
Speaker 3: what I was kind of sensing from people watching this back,
Speaker 3: Pillman kind of inserted himself in that position. You know,
Speaker 3: he and Hope Pulp calls on him, Hope calls his name.
Speaker 2: Out and everything.
Speaker 3: But as far as like being right there and a way,
Speaker 3: you can't possibly not see him, you know. It's uh,
Speaker 3: it's pretty hilarious. Actually, it is funny because he's just
Speaker 3: like he's almost he's like photo bombing hul Cogan, you know,
Speaker 3: is what he's doing. And uh, it's it's pretty it's
Speaker 3: pretty hilarious. So watch for that as well.
Speaker 21: Here we go.
Speaker 23: This is my life.
Speaker 5: Oh, brother Flair was caged in, dude.
Speaker 24: The shack attack told me that all I had to
Speaker 24: do was stand there and lay the brother up, you know,
Speaker 24: lay him from one corner to the other. And then
Speaker 24: as if he tried to make his escape, mister t
Speaker 24: was there to bend him in a big old pretzel.
Speaker 24: And if we bet him in a ball, Shack was
Speaker 24: gonna slam him. And as he bounced off the floor,
Speaker 24: Hammer and Hank was gonna knock him back into ring.
Speaker 2: Brother.
Speaker 5: So Rick Flair, you had no.
Speaker 24: Choice, no choice, brother, You had to face haul come in.
Speaker 24: Yet you had to feel the power in me and Geane.
Speaker 24: Can you imagine now with all those little maniacs in
Speaker 24: the WCW, with the shack attack, with George Foreman, with
Speaker 24: everybody wearing the headbands hiding their dome, with everybody ripping
Speaker 24: the shirts off, brother, with my shirts being torn all
Speaker 24: around the world, can you imagine the pythons the power
Speaker 24: I'm gonna have when I step in that ring again
Speaker 24: with my next opponent.
Speaker 16: Brother, And I'd like to know who that's gonna be,
Speaker 16: because I've got a feeling there's gonna be.
Speaker 1: A lot of them standing in line.
Speaker 5: I just feel sorry for the next dude.
Speaker 24: Rick Flair walked that out on profile too many times.
Speaker 24: As far as I'm concerned, I told the brother to
Speaker 24: leave his limo running fill the lerigit up with gas,
Speaker 24: because as soon as we get done partying, me and
Speaker 24: all my brothers here at the WCW, we're fighting all
Speaker 24: the way back to Fedis Beach and we're gonna.
Speaker 5: Be riding tiger Sharks this weekend. Dude, what are you
Speaker 5: gonna do?
Speaker 16: Well, I'm gonna be there to do it and be
Speaker 16: part of it. Ladies and gentlemen from Orlando, Florida. Run
Speaker 16: the Receptionnario for Tony Savannibadi Ventura, even for the brain
Speaker 16: Bobby Heenan, who's really done on his luck.
Speaker 23: Let's go back to you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like to see gene on a fucking Tiger shirt. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll get factor it in. Man.
Speaker 3: Everything they could do to kill a whole Comania has failed,
Speaker 3: they declare, and whole Comedia is the most powerful force
Speaker 3: in the universe. WCW Boss. But the world is watching now, and.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah it is what they're watching now because wrestling's
Speaker 2: cool again.
Speaker 3: And for all of us at WCW, Tony Giovanni says, here,
Speaker 3: well you.
Speaker 2: Got it, because this is just fucking this is just ridiculous, WCW.
Speaker 17: What the world is watching now advance for all of
Speaker 17: us at WCW, I Tony Shivanni is saying, presling is
Speaker 17: cool again.
Speaker 23: Have a good night.
Speaker 3: I'll say what you will. But as the credits roll,
Speaker 3: what a feeling going to bed on a summer vacation
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety four to this happy music, knowing we're good,
Speaker 3: We're good, Hulk Hogan is still Hulk Hogan and everything
Speaker 3: it's gonna be all right, damn right.
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