WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:03.200 The disclaimer to the fair season. Karen's out there, how 2 00:00:03.399 --> 00:00:05.759 dare you? All guests on the show do not reflect 3 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:06.519 the opinions. 4 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:07.519 Of the host. 5 00:00:08.519 --> 00:00:10.519 The purpose of the show is to have interesting conversations, 6 00:00:10.599 --> 00:00:14.320 stretch our minds and grow not what we want. If 7 00:00:14.359 --> 00:00:16.239 you are looking for an echo chamber, you were and 8 00:00:16.359 --> 00:00:18.440 listener discretion, he's as. 9 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:24.199 You talking about extreme. 10 00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:28.320 Anowledge. 11 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:30.239 We will guilty. 12 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:35.119 From the super They don't fear the questions, they fear 13 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:35.679 the fu. 14 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:38.439 So we see the. 15 00:00:49.960 --> 00:01:00.039 They come, thank you, They asy, but by the dark. 16 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:02.240 On this show. 17 00:01:09.599 --> 00:01:13.040 Hey guys, what is happening and what is hold out 18 00:01:13.079 --> 00:01:15.640 that glass because we about to fill it up. 19 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:16.359 Welcome to the. 20 00:01:16.280 --> 00:01:21.120 Prometheus lins Podcast, the place with the conversations are always enlightening. 21 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:23.280 I am your host, Doc Brown, and here we'd like 22 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:26.439 to use the allegory of the Prometheus linbs to take 23 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:29.879 a second look at everything. Well, guys, I got a 24 00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:31.680 good show for you. Guys lined up. I think this 25 00:01:31.799 --> 00:01:36.400 is gonna be an enlightening conversation. Pun intended. This is 26 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:39.079 a friend from across the pond. This is a long 27 00:01:39.120 --> 00:01:43.040 distance pal. We hooked up through Instagram and I've seen 28 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:46.040 him on some of my other friends show like Nick 29 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:49.599 from the Occult Rejects, So we kind of got our 30 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:52.120 heads together, got our schedules together, and we finally lined 31 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:54.560 this thing up. So I'm excited to sit down and 32 00:01:54.560 --> 00:01:56.719 talk with this gentleman and welcome him for the first 33 00:01:56.760 --> 00:02:01.439 time and hopefully the first of many, to the Prometheus Lens. Xander, Xander, 34 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:03.599 how are you, my friend? And thank you for joining. 35 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:05.599 Us, Thanks for having me on. 36 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:09.400 Hello everyone listening watching, And as you said, I think 37 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:12.319 it will be a great conversation and you know, I'm 38 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:15.080 excited to be here with you today. 39 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:15.439 Nice. 40 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:17.599 Well, I appreciate you donating your time to us. That's 41 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:20.800 Lab's most valuable assets. You can't get any more time, 42 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:24.120 so I am extremely grateful that you chose to donate 43 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:26.159 some of your time to us and the listeners today. 44 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:29.280 For those that's not stubled across. 45 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:31.159 You on Instagram or heard you on another show, just 46 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:32.280 kind of introduce. 47 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:33.280 Yourself to the audience. 48 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:37.120 Let us know a little bit about yourself. What's your 49 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:41.000 research books, any kind of information that you want to 50 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:43.280 let everybody know to kind of get a feel for 51 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:43.680 your brother. 52 00:02:44.840 --> 00:02:47.919 My name is Alexander Triskevich and I may Polish researcher 53 00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:51.599 and author, author of Deja Vu has everything already been? 54 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:53.560 And actually I wrote this book and you. 55 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:56.520 Know, it's say full four hundred plus pages book with 56 00:02:56.599 --> 00:03:00.719 footnotes and bibliography just at each of seventeen the three 57 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:03.919 right now. I also translated it then myself into English 58 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:07.479 from Polish of course. And my areas of research of 59 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:10.560 interests are you know, the biggest secrets of our past, 60 00:03:10.639 --> 00:03:13.599 the most remote eras, but also the entire universe, how 61 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:19.759 it all works. You know, the truth about the surrounding reality, spirituality, consciousness, metaphysics, 62 00:03:19.919 --> 00:03:22.599 and you know, everything like that. So this is my 63 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:25.960 area right now. I'm also a student at a local 64 00:03:26.039 --> 00:03:29.280 university here in Poland, and I got even because of 65 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:32.719 my research, a private studies graduation. 66 00:03:32.479 --> 00:03:36.719 That fits me. I did not only study. 67 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:40.719 Just casual history, but I have a specialization in the 68 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:45.759 Middle East, ancient Middle East, including languages, religions, history and 69 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:52.199 languages like ancient Hebrew, which you know I really look 70 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:54.639 forward to but in you know, in the future, and 71 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:57.599 I also will be. I'm in the process, That's why 72 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:00.319 I'm talking about that. I'm in the process of writing 73 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:06.280 even my first few reviewed you know, the the mainstream 74 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:09.080 and what does you know, not considered it to be 75 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:13.039 mainstream and you know, going into the unknown. So I'm 76 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:17.160 like on the edge and you mentioned, you know, allegory metaphors, 77 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:20.920 and I think this is the thing that it's all about, 78 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:28.199 the huge journey going into the unknown and commission connections 79 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:32.600 and you know, enlightening the current paradigm and you know, 80 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:35.800 enlarging our incredt of preality. 81 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:38.240 That's nice, man. 82 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:40.759 Then you're gonna go round in pocket here with us 83 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:43.279 and what we talk about, what we look into a 84 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:48.519 lot of those things are fascinations of mine and the listeners. So, uh, 85 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:51.920 I guess just to kind of dive into the thing 86 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:56.720 and get our toe in the water. What was your 87 00:04:57.319 --> 00:04:59.839 I don't know, I guess red peel moment that got 88 00:04:59.879 --> 00:05:03.079 you you looking into these sort of subjects or was 89 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:06.240 this just something that you had as a kid as 90 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:07.560 far back as you can remember. 91 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:11.399 Yeah, I think it was a very cool moment or 92 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:14.639 like type of progress when it comes to my life. 93 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:17.720 Because I was always a good student. I didn't need 94 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:20.279 to learn much and I was passing all the grades. 95 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:24.519 But we had a reform in the educational system and 96 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:26.600 because of it, it would be hard for me to 97 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:29.040 get into a good high school back then when I 98 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:32.879 was like fifteen or fourteen sixteen something like that approximately, 99 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:36.199 and in order not to care about you know, anything 100 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:41.079 and not to care about degrees, I attended historical competition 101 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:45.319 because if you got with this competition a very high place, 102 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:47.879 you could just whatever you know high school you want, 103 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:50.160 without any need for good degrees. 104 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:51.319 So I went there. 105 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:53.720 My mom was in the past a historian, I had 106 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:56.160 plenty of resources at home. It was easy for me. 107 00:05:56.560 --> 00:05:59.040 And I think it was in during that time when 108 00:05:59.079 --> 00:06:01.959 I was learning for this contest competition, because it was 109 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:05.040 a very broad and of a very high level competition 110 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:07.600 of an entire district here in Poland, and I needed 111 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:10.040 to learn, you know, from the academic level when I 112 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:12.680 was in the middle high school. So I needed to 113 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:16.839 learn not only the history, but from even before prehistory, 114 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:19.360 prehistoric times, you know, the first home minutes, how it 115 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:22.879 all went, how we evolved into an atomically modern humans, 116 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:26.920 then cave and then first settlements and first civilizations up 117 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:30.920 until the modern times, like nineteen fifties, nineteen seventies. So 118 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:33.040 it was a huge competition for me, and I think 119 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:35.839 it was at that time that I started just asking 120 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:38.879 basic questions, how do we know it is true? How 121 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:42.519 do we know that history happened in this particular way 122 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:47.519 that we are being taught. Why why this information that 123 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:50.839 I'm being you know, and that I was learning is true? 124 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:51.720 How do we know that? 125 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:54.800 And I started it was there, digging deeper and deeper, 126 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:58.800 you know, I couldn't find any answers to these questions 127 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:02.720 within the mainstream para. So I went into other sources, 128 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:06.120 like what our ancient ancestores were, you know, talking how 129 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:08.920 they described the past, because they were much closer to 130 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:11.000 the prehistoric times. And I was, you know, the most 131 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:14.680 interested in the oldest, the first civilizations, what was before them? 132 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:16.560 How do we know this is? You know, how it 133 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:19.800 all started. So this was my journey. And it is 134 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:22.360 interesting because it was there that I started my research 135 00:07:22.399 --> 00:07:25.040 and I published this first book at the age of seventeen. 136 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:28.360 And I remember that parallel to this side like it 137 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:32.680 was the masculine part, like research, rebellious, you know, asking questions, 138 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:35.680 finding answer This was the masculine part of this journey. 139 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:39.439 But simultaneously I had, like the feminine part of this journey, 140 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:42.800 some kind of even spiritual awakening of some sort, because 141 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:46.000 before that, I would say I was an agnostic, maybe 142 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:49.160 on a little bit on the atheistic side. That okay, 143 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:53.120 I'm not convinced. I wasn't convinced before that there's some 144 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:56.560 higher power or anything like God or spirituality. I was 145 00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:59.279 a rational person, and I remember that. Parallel to that, 146 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:03.639 I had like my spiritual awakening, So both the masculine 147 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:06.319 evolution and the feminine at the same time, and you know, 148 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:09.399 it all started, you know, and it was a huge 149 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:12.519 time for me, plenty of things happening all at once, 150 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:14.680 both when it comes to my research, both when it 151 00:08:14.680 --> 00:08:17.279 comes to my personal journey, and also because of my 152 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:24.480 personal journey, I went beyond just history and physics into metaphysics, spirituality, philosophy. 153 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:26.759 And stuff like that. So this was how it all started. 154 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:32.159 So I hear, you're right that your mother was a historian, 155 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:33.679 so it's kind of like in your blood. 156 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:38.639 My mother wasn't like a very hardcore historian. It was 157 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:41.360 like just you know, her job, her profession. But why 158 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:43.559 I mentioned that is that because of that, it was 159 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:46.440 easy for me because I had plenty of resources already 160 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:49.399 at home. So my mom partially, you know, was teaching 161 00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:53.200 me for this competition. My father is an engineer and 162 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:57.000 he always loved watching documentaries on TV. So I would 163 00:08:57.039 --> 00:08:59.919 say that for even in my childhood, you know, I 164 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:03.480 was very well aware of how you know, science works, 165 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:06.759 how the universe works. You know, I was very into 166 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:11.879 how the nature, how reality works. At history, you know, biology, 167 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:14.399 and plenty of stuff like that. You know, we have 168 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:18.840 plenty of castles and plenty of medieval architecture here in Poland, 169 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:20.799 and my parents were bringing me. 170 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:21.639 To these places. 171 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:24.399 So I think that, Okay, it started much before when 172 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:27.200 it comes to the overall interest, but this was this 173 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:30.559 red pill or blackpill time for me, this competition when 174 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:33.879 I started, you know, going just beyond what is known 175 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:35.000 into the unknown. 176 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:41.000 Yeah, that's definitely the two key questions I tell people. 177 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:44.799 You need to ask on anything, even with me. If 178 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:47.240 I'm telling you something and you're watching a show or 179 00:09:47.240 --> 00:09:50.360 reading my stuff, it's like, now you need to in 180 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:53.399 the very least ask you know, who told me that? 181 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:56.799 And is it true? You know, you can't just take 182 00:09:56.840 --> 00:10:01.720 it for gold, because I've known plenty of highly intelligent 183 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:06.679 people that give me their theories and outtakes on things, 184 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:09.799 and I just believed them because I respected them and 185 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:12.559 knew they were smart. But then later when I actually 186 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:15.799 took the time to look into it myself, I formed 187 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:19.159 a completely different opinion. And it's sometimes it's even to 188 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:21.879 the point it's like, dude, this is common sense to me. 189 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:25.960 How did this person get their interpretation or miss you 190 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:29.799 know what I'm seeing here. So, yeah, it's extremely important 191 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:31.919 to look at these things yourself. And I love how 192 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:35.639 you mentioned too, just the spiritual side of it, because 193 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:42.080 I tell people a lot alternative history, ancient laws, civilizations, conspiracy, 194 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:46.600 all these types of subjects lead to spirituality. 195 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:49.240 Yes, yes, totally agree. 196 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:53.320 Well, I know you'd mentioned your book that you had 197 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:54.480 wrote when you were seventeen. 198 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:56.559 What was the subject on that one? 199 00:10:57.159 --> 00:11:00.279 Yeah, this is dejah book surfing already Bennett's most about 200 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:03.879 lost history, lost civilization. You know, this idea that our 201 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:07.519 history is much older, and the title Deja Vu actually 202 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:10.120 is about that everything may be cyclical, And at the 203 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:14.159 end of my book, I delve also into both physical, metaphysical, 204 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:18.960 philosophical spiritual theories you can say about you know, cyclicality 205 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:22.240 of nature, cyclicality of history. So but it's mostly like 206 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:26.120 eighty percent about history, but you know, I'm also into 207 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:28.200 all different topics. But you know, I didn't want to 208 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:31.480 include everything just in my book. But the main idea 209 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:34.320 is that our history may be much much older than that. 210 00:11:34.600 --> 00:11:37.279 And I started with, you know, a very interesting question 211 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:41.519 first chapter, how long it would take for a civilization 212 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:44.879 like ours today to decay? Because this is the biggest question, 213 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:48.039 because we can speculate, okay, there was Atlantis ten thousand 214 00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:53.399 v see or any other kind of civilization, maybe some civilizations. 215 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:53.600 Millions of years old. 216 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:57.480 But I think the game changer for many people, especially 217 00:11:57.480 --> 00:12:00.919 for people who are skeptical to this idea of waszations, 218 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:04.480 is you know, how old we as an atomically modern 219 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:06.919 human have been here on Earth, which is hundreds of 220 00:12:06.919 --> 00:12:10.480 thousands of years. And we again in the mainstream even news, 221 00:12:10.840 --> 00:12:14.600 are pushing the dates of anatomically modern humans back and back, 222 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:18.159 you know, a few times in the last five to 223 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:21.279 ten years. And when you look at that and compare 224 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:25.159 it with you know, the decay of decomposition, decay of 225 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:29.399 materials of civilizations, you will see, you know, it is 226 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:32.440 like the first shift that there is a huge potential 227 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:34.720 when it comes to our past if most of the 228 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:37.519 things would decay, the compost. Even when it comes to 229 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:40.960 such advanced civilization like ours today in jazz. Let's say 230 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:44.120 a few thousand years, maybe few tens of thousands of years, 231 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:47.600 but still let's say ten thousand years or twenty or fifty. 232 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:50.799 Let's say we are very skeptical, very conservative, and looking 233 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:54.320 at anatomically modern humans being at least two hundred three 234 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:57.480 hundred thousand years old and maybe even older than that, 235 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:01.039 and you see that our earth is even and according 236 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:03.799 at least too of course the mainstream paradigm older than that, 237 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:06.320 you know, by millions of years. You see huge potential 238 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:09.200 that there could have been something on Earth before us, 239 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:14.120 and we may not be the first ones here, yep. 240 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:18.759 And that's something I can agree with you on. I'm 241 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:23.360 a Christian, but to some Christians I am a heretic, 242 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:26.600 because there's some that are very rigid, and it's like, 243 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:29.440 if it's not in this you know thing we call 244 00:13:29.480 --> 00:13:31.879 a Bible, then it's not true, and all this other 245 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:35.679 stuff is lies, you know, tricks from the devil. You 246 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:37.840 don't need to be reading these other you know that 247 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:42.399 kind of thing. They're really rigid Christians. But me, I'm 248 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:45.759 a firm believer, especially the more that I research that 249 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:50.840 a lot of this stuff is sicklicker. And even with 250 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:54.679 the prophecy, if you're talking about the Bible, so many 251 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:57.559 times to the Bible, you'll have a prophecy and you'll 252 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:01.519 see it fulfilled, but then you can see it again. 253 00:14:02.279 --> 00:14:04.240 It's like one of those things that it's like an onion. 254 00:14:04.279 --> 00:14:08.399 It's got layers and it repeats. And all these civilizations, man, 255 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:11.360 I'll talk about if they all have similar stories, there 256 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:13.480 has to be a more ancient origin. 257 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:14.159 I believe. 258 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:17.919 So, like you said, how many cultures across the world 259 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:21.480 and time talk about you know, this being like the 260 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:24.960 third or fourth world. You know, it was destroyed by 261 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:27.840 water and then eventually it's going to be fire. So 262 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:34.360 I think that our Bible, you know, according to the scholars, 263 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:39.799 earth's only like six to eight thousand years old, but 264 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:45.159 I take the opinion of that it was as much older. 265 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:47.759 It's just that's the time frame that it recorded. Or 266 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:50.799 maybe it's just recording this cycle. 267 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:55.039 Yes, yes, And actually when you know the idea that 268 00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:58.960 there was something before us, it is connected with the Bible, 269 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:01.320 because you know, the biblic call famous flood and that 270 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:04.480 there was some kind of world before. Maybe it isn't 271 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:07.960 compared to a civilization, but still that there was something 272 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:11.720 before the flood, then there was flood or later Christian 273 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:15.840 you know historians like Joseph was talking about that there 274 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:19.399 will be fire and water cataclysms. Yeah, I totally agree 275 00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:23.080 right now. Interestingly, because as I've mentioned, I went studying 276 00:15:23.159 --> 00:15:25.399 jazz lasts so a few months ago, and you know, 277 00:15:25.799 --> 00:15:29.600 immediately because I was very engaged in these topics, I got, 278 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:33.200 you know this, you know, more oriented towards the ancient 279 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:35.759 Middle East and no religions and stuff like that, and 280 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:38.879 I started already research and my first you know, pure 281 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:44.159 paper will be about the flood story connection between Mesopotamia, Bible, 282 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:46.879 and India. Maybe probably a few more. We'll see how 283 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:49.639 you know, the final thing will turn out to be. 284 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:54.360 But you know, I started researching, and you know, people say, oh, 285 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:57.200 the Biblical version is the only truth, and as you've said, 286 00:15:57.240 --> 00:16:01.279 anything except for outside of it is not. But actually 287 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:05.519 tons of the things from the Old Testament, especially Genesis, 288 00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:08.480 are taken from the previous culture. So the same stories 289 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:10.879 that God rehash that good change, you know, and put 290 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:16.159 into the Biblical narrative. So no Mesopotamius stories are in 291 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:18.840 plenty of ways telling us the same story, but maybe 292 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:22.000 in different timeframes with different names and stuff like that, like, 293 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:25.000 for instance, the flood, the flood already you know, with 294 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:28.679 thousands of years before the Bible was written, mentioned in 295 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:32.080 the Sumerian epics like Gilgamesh later a Kid and Etra Hazies, 296 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:35.480 and even the details like for instance, that Noah sent 297 00:16:35.720 --> 00:16:36.679 one bird. 298 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:38.840 To see if the if there's still is a. 299 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:41.879 Flood, and this bird came back, and it meant for 300 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:44.679 Noah that, okay, there isn't a safe place for this 301 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:48.000 bird to stay, so there is still water, so it's 302 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:49.919 not the end of the flood. Then he sent the 303 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:53.519 second bird, and the second bird didn't come back to now, 304 00:16:53.559 --> 00:16:56.080 which meant that there is a safe place and you know, 305 00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:59.720 the arc can finally stop and the flood is over. 306 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:02.399 The same thing is already in the Gilgamaghe but I 307 00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:07.680 think he sends three birds, not two. But again Gilgamesh, 308 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:11.000 he's also sending one bird he isn't coming back, the 309 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:14.240 second and then finally one bird he's coming back. But 310 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:17.119 then the final bird isn't coming back, which means that 311 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:19.440 there is you know, a safe place. The same as 312 00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:22.279 the description that the arc went onto some kind of 313 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:26.200 mountain mountainous areas. So you know, it's not to say 314 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:29.640 that you know, anything outside is wrong, because even you know, 315 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:32.160 the Bible as we see it right now and as 316 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:35.000 we have it in the current form, was inspired by 317 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:37.640 this previous thing, and we see plenty of connections. 318 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:42.799 Oh yeah, and I'm a firm believer too that this 319 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:47.960 is an ancient story. These people experienced this, That's why 320 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:51.000 their stories are all the same and similar. And it's 321 00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:56.240 just you know, people write down and record their histories 322 00:17:56.279 --> 00:18:00.319 and legends at various times. And I get some people 323 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:04.960 that want to try to throw the ananochy H, the Epica, 324 00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:08.440 Gilgamesh and some of these stories, uh, the Numa a 325 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:12.119 leash and how you see, you know, so many similarities 326 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:15.119 with the Bible, and you know, according to you know, 327 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:18.039 our carbon dating, which I think is very flawed anyway, 328 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:20.480 but they say that these these are much older. 329 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:22.240 So they're like, oh, well, your Bible. 330 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:25.319 Is just all made up copy you know, copycat stuff. 331 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:26.640 It's it's it's bunk. 332 00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:29.880 And I tell them, I'm like, well, if you go 333 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:33.400 with you know, the biblical narrative, it says in Genesis sixth, 334 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:35.359 at the time of the flood, it says that the 335 00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:38.519 angels came down read with the daughters of men, made 336 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:42.960 Nephlom giants and gave them the seven sacred scientists sciences 337 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:45.680 and made the humanity so wicked. That's why the flood 338 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:49.319 had to come. So I tell people, I'm like, uh, 339 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:54.440 my interpretation is, yeah, you get these stories that are 340 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:56.359 so similar to the Bible, but they kind of paint 341 00:18:56.400 --> 00:19:00.519 these fallen angels as the good guys, you know, if 342 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:01.599 you look at it that way. 343 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:03.160 And I tell themselves, like, if you. 344 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:06.880 Believe the Bible, it says the angels came down and 345 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:09.720 were kicked out of heaven first. So I mean, is 346 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:12.680 it out of the question to assume that you would 347 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:15.960 get their version first because they were here first. 348 00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:17.519 Yeah. 349 00:19:17.640 --> 00:19:19.720 Yeah, it's a good connection. You know, the same way. 350 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:23.960 For instance, we're often seven sages like in India, seven Rishies, 351 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:27.160 seven up calor in Mesopotamia are connected again with bringing 352 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:30.480 science after the flat to humanity. So I think it 353 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:33.400 is connected to what you said about this sacred sciences, 354 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:36.119 you know, the Nephelim the giant, and you see the 355 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:38.559 big picture that maybe you know, we don't have one 356 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:42.119 hundred percent all connections, but we see so many parallels 357 00:19:42.119 --> 00:19:45.440 that are beyond you know, any kind of just probability. 358 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:48.039 And at the same time, the difference is maypoint that 359 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:50.680 you know, some parts at least of these stories were 360 00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:53.160 independent on each other, that it isn't just a copy 361 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:54.240 from the older one. 362 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:55.640 M hm. 363 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:01.119 You had mentioned Atlantis earlier. Do you actually we believe 364 00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:08.079 that this was a physical city or civilization, or maybe 365 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:12.440 an allegory of the Golden age when God's walked amongst men, 366 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:15.880 you know, the pre flood world. What's your take on Atlantis? 367 00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:20.480 Most days don't look like an emergency. That's why most 368 00:20:20.519 --> 00:20:25.319 people never think about what they're carrying. We do because 369 00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:30.119 preparedness isn't about looking the party, it's about being ready anyway. 370 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:34.480 Comfort isn't a luxury. It's what keeps you moving when 371 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:38.519 the day goes longer than planned. That's why every Squatch 372 00:20:38.599 --> 00:20:42.759 survival pack is made here start to finish. Squatch builds 373 00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:46.480 packs for people who don't assume the day will stay easy. 374 00:20:46.920 --> 00:20:52.039 Rugaroo Mothman built to last your missions and be passed 375 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:56.359 down when you're done. Squatch survival gear ready for the 376 00:20:56.400 --> 00:20:59.240 next one. 377 00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:03.960 I don't say that one hundred percent of what Plato 378 00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:06.880 told us about Atlantis is true, not for sure, and 379 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:09.920 I think that he you know, inserted into this story 380 00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:13.119 plenty of allegories, but we can see that at least 381 00:21:13.119 --> 00:21:16.319 there is some part to destroy Atlantis, and even maybe 382 00:21:16.359 --> 00:21:19.359 a bigger part or half of the story that may 383 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:22.759 be true. And my opinion is similar to like the 384 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:26.880 overall idea of Plato that Atlantis was a prehistoric maritime 385 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:30.440 civilization that was just in very very remote eras. And 386 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:33.880 I think that even the dating of Atlantis, that it's 387 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:36.359 you know, sunk at the end of the last Ice Agent. 388 00:21:36.480 --> 00:21:38.720 You know, he was very exact about that nine thousand 389 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:42.400 years approximately before Solon can show us that, Okay, even 390 00:21:42.480 --> 00:21:46.160 if we are very skeptical and deny any kind of catastrophism, 391 00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:49.759 that there was like Ango Dreya's impact hypothesis of some sorts, 392 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:55.400 that even you know, basic archaeological and geological facts are 393 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:59.079 showing as that from the end of from the end 394 00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:01.720 of the last Ice Age up until the ancient times, 395 00:22:01.799 --> 00:22:05.240 the sea level have risen about one hundred and twenty meters, 396 00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:07.680 which is like a skyscraper. So I think that there 397 00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:10.119 is true to the Atlantis store and it may be 398 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:13.079 it may have been even a very primitive myth of 399 00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:15.839 some kind of let's say city or some kind of 400 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:20.319 settlement being you know, completely washed away by the waters. 401 00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:22.359