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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of You Were

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Wrong with Molly Hemingway, editor in chief of the Federalist

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and David Harsani, senior writer at The Washington Examiner. Just

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as a reminder, if you'd like to email the show,

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please do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. So, Molly,

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another week and another anti Semitic attack in America, this

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time in Boulder, Colorado, your old stomping grounds up there

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in Pearl Street. Did you go to Colorado? I forget

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My brother.

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Speaker 2: And sister went to see you Boulder, and I went

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to see you Denver. So I'm very familiar with Pearl

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Street Mall, which is where this attack happened, and Boulder,

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and you're very familiar with it from having lived out

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there as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice. I mean, you know, well it's nice.

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Speaker 2: One thing I don't think people realize, like CU Boulder

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has a reputation for being a very liberal school. The

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town itself is actually much more liberal than the school.

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And you know, I remember when I was in high school,

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their mayor was an abortionist, like a literal like she

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ran an abortion facility, and they were known for wanting

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to import homeless people, you know, never mind that homeless

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people are smart enough to know that maybe Boulder is

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not the best place to endure a winter, a winter

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if you don't have a house. But it's a very

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left wing city. But they apparently had been having a

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weekly march to call for the return of the Israeli

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hostages that were seized in the October seven attacks by Hamas,

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and so that's when this attack happened, which you can

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tell us about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Boulder is insanely left wing. Warren Hern, I

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believe had his office.

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Speaker 2: Up there is late term abortion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just the worst person in America probably. I mean,

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I can't think of anyone more evil than that guy.

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So just a terrible place in that sense. It's it's

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a very weird thing because it's it's also quite rich,

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you know. So anyway, this guy who was he was

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a He built a flamethrower basically, and he threw it

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at a bunch of people who are marching for the hostages.

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He was an illegal, He was illegally here. He's an Egyptian.

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I just read today. He has like five kids here.

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Speaker 2: Well over, he overstayed his visa with a visa and

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then he completely overstayed his visa and then like after

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it had been overstayed for quite some time, then he

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was like, oh, I one asylum and I think that

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was denied and so he was still here.

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Speaker 1: Well, the asylum claim has just become this kind of

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shortcut for people to try to you know, for illegals,

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to try.

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Speaker 2: To set the illegality here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I mean the system needs reform and that's sure.

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And honestly, I don't even want to talk a ton

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about the attack or obviously it's just this crazed anti Semite.

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It's not going to be the last attack. Unfortunately, as

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of now, I don't think anyone has died, and I

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hope that that's the case. He's charged with, you know,

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terrorism and a bunch of other things. I want to

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talk about how the media covered this. Now I'm going

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to be ranting and raving a bit, I think today,

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so I hope people go for it. When NBC described this,

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describe this attack, this is what they called the people

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there And I'm not making this up. It's so are

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well in but I'm not making this up. Gaza hostage

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awareness marchers like can you imagine? I'm not even joking Molly,

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and just imagine the like Zoomer editorial assistant person who

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had to find out a way to say this without

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calling those people Jews. It was definitely no easy task,

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and this is what they came up with.

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Speaker 2: So they're not gozzen like they're being held in Gaza

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Gaza hostage awareness there Israeli hostages.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's completely misleading. It's someone who struggled in a

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hand fisted way to talk about these people, not say

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maybe you know pro Israel, pro Jewish hostage or pro

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hostages or whatever. I don't even know how you did

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describe it. I just say, you know whatever. But the

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entire coverage of this is like it soft pedals what

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this guy did. It's soft pedals what he's about. For instance,

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NBC News lone wolf attacks, which should be lone wolves

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attacks in Boulder and DC highlight the difficulty in securing

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public spaces. So if you're.

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Speaker 2: Sharing it quite literally, if it's a plural, it's not

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a lone wolf.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So let's say they're talking about separate incidents. But

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if those string of incidents share the same rhetoric, the

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same ideology, the same targets, the same kind of people doing.

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Then it's a movement. You don't have to have a

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meeting of everyone to get together and say, oh, we're

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going to shoot some diplo Israeli. You know, some work

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people who work at the Israeli diplomatic offices in DC,

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and we're going to throw flames at Jews elsewhere. I

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mean God, and I mean I.

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Speaker 2: Hope people are remembering that the Democrat governor of Pennsylvania

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who's Jewish had his mansion firebombed by a pro Palestinian

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activist as well.

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Speaker 1: Right, So there were a slew of stories recently that

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had to be retracted that kinds of feeds the anger

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at Jewish people and the genocide myth. And this is

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a hoax. I'm not going to get too into that,

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but to say this, it reminds me a little bit

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of the Russia collusion hoax. In this way, the media

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will say, oh, we made a mistake, we got it

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wrong this time, We're going to retract this story days

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after the damage is done. I'm going to give you

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some of those examples, but it always skews in the

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same exact direction. Somehow. That's a miracle, right, when you're

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just making honest mistakes that every mistake you make excuse

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in one direction towards Hamas in this point, in their

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point of view of the world, that seems probably right.

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Speaker 2: David. Are you talking about the story we discussed last

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week about how like the false report that there were

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going to be some like insane number of children.

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Speaker 1: Dead within fourteen thousand children, babies were going to die

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in two days if Israel didn't, you know, do this

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and that forget that. After that, there was a story

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about a tank attack on aid workers that killed a

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bunch of Palestinians. Well, there were cameras there. Unfortunately for

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the people who spread this story, it was untrue. Nothing

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blew up. No one died there. Now I'm not saying

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no one dies, I'm just saying no one died there.

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The next day, BBC reported that the IDEAF had fired

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into a group of Palestinians who were there at an

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American ag center in thirty one had died. That was

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completely unfounded and untrue. It did not happen. The Washington

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Post ran with a story That story retracted it days after.

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One of the reporters on that story one of the bylines,

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have you noticed that there's always like ten bylines on

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every story. Does no one like write.

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Speaker 2: A story sea?

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Speaker 1: But anyway, she won. I believe that she won a

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Pulitzer Prize for their coverage of the Israel and Palestinian situation.

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Here's the thing, though, they'll go back tomorrow to quoting

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Hamas's casualty numbers. They'll keep doing it. I don't know

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if you remember, ten days after the October seventh attack

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in twenty twenty three, the New York Times ran with

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the story that the Israelis had bombed a hospital and

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killed like two hundred and thirty people. It turned out

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it was Islamic Jihad had a misfired rocket that did it.

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You know so, it's story after story that build, like

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the Russia collusion hoax, build onto this narrative, and then

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you forget how many of these stories are completely untrue

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and not based in any reality. All you remember is

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the string of stories of how terrible you know Israel

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is Now. The Washington Post is one of the worst

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at this, and the you know so, they were sin

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saw it up there still, so I don't know how

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they did it. But the other day on their editorial page,

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which has former Katari propaganda soul over the place. A

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guy named Shadi Hamid ran a tired propaganda piece based

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on Hamas's statistics saying that Israel Israel had committed genocide

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in Gaza. So you know, I mean, it's nuts, it's nuts,

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how misleading this is and how dangerous this is to

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people in America. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Also, all war involves propaganda, like all sides in a

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war engage in propaganda. That is particularly true as we

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have witnessed with Palestinian propaganda for many, many, many decades now.

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actually dealing with all the time in war, whether it's

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Ukraine and Russia, Israel versus Hamas, Hamas has a well

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established reputation for just not telling the truth, as evidenced

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by what you just said with the hospital claims that

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the Israel had purposely bombed a hospital to kill people

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who were in a hospital, and none of it was true.

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So if you're a media person and you do anything

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other than basically shelve a claim from Hamas untel and

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unless you can verify it independently, you're just part of

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a propaganda operation. They know to check claims made from Israel,

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as you should any claim, but they are going out

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of their way to accept and regurgitate false claims from

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the Palestinians.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they'll do it again tomorrow. And you're right,

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I mean I don't want honestly, you know, I am

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pro Israel. Doesn't mean I think Israel does everything correctly,

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or Israel does it make mistakes, or that there aren't

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even bad people within, you know, the Israel ideaf who

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would do something terrible. It happens in every country, every army.

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a democracy and has a system of checks and balances.

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It has a media that that is very critical of Israel.

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I mean, the Horretz newspaper will run, will run editorials

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about it. Our Israel shouldn't even exist, you know. I mean,

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this is an open and free nation. So I certainly

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don't think that Israel deserves a pass. But I mean,

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when you're you shouldn't also treat homoso terist organization as

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you do Israel with the same level, with the same

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level of skepticism. But anyway, let's talk about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just on this, you know, we mentioned the attack

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on Shapiro's mansion, the assassination of the Israeli embassy workers,

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and then the fire bombing of the peaceful rally to

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get people to care about the hostages. And we also

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have a political movement that's quite large that's pushing these things.

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We have the propaganda press that's pushing it. It's like

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a real problem Americans are being Like one of the

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women who was attacked in Boulder survived the Holocaust and

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then she comes to Boulder, which is such an idyllic,

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lovely place to live, and then has burns on her

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body from someone who wants to kill Jews. Does it

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seem that the media are giving this the attention that

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they would give it if like, do you remember when

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a small group of like crazy, not great, you know,

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a small group of racists had that rally in Charlottesville

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that also included some people who just didn't want statues

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being torn down, and it became the main focus of

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media attention for like six years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Joe Biden said he ran, who's been running for

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present since nineteen eighty seven, said he ran for president

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because of the Charlottesville march and something that Donald Trump

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didn't say about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm just saying Charlottesville every day seemed to

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be demanding that Hakim Jeffries denounce his political party for

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how much they're doing to support this movement of you know,

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antie Israeli rhetoric that's leading to this.

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Speaker 1: I'm not one of these people who likes to blame.

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How can I say this? I blame the person who

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did it for what happened. But there is an environment

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that you create, and there is especially when you're lying

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about stuff. So everyone comes out on the you know,

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within the Democratic House leadership and elsewhere and say, boy,

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this is horrific, this attack is horrific, you know, but

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never once do they ever say anything about the people

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within their party. And there are many who spread the

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genocide claim who kind of bolster this kind of thinking. Like,

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forget even Charlottesville, think about like the Westboro church, which

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one family. Yeah, whatever they show up, there's pictures and

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you know, and immediately they want conservatives to take ownership

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of those people. By by asking you to denounce them,

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like you say, you're essentially giving them ownership of it.

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part of your movement with elected officials, and you don't

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to the Washington Post. Here's an editorial that they ran

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after the flame throwing incident, anti Semitism does not respect

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national This is a headline, anti Semitism does not respect

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national borders. Underneath it says Trump says the Boulder attacks

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suspect should not have been here. He is missing the point. Now,

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are the rise in anti Semitism. Yes, some of it

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is driven by domestic leftists and unfortunately some people on

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the right as well, but it is often imported into

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this country. And I can't do anything about someone who's

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an anti Semite here. They could say what they want,

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But do I have to now import and into the

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country people who will not assimilate or won't be assimilated

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by the left. Now, I think that is the point.

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That's why we have a border. I can't do anything

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of any anti semitism in Saudi Arabia, but I can

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do something about it here. By not letting anti Semites in,

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you don't want to become part of the American you know,

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fabric of American life. Right.

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Speaker 2: For me, this was a real wake up call when

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the left got so angry that white South African farmers

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were granted refugee status. And then I think it was

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Marco Rubio or someone said something to the effect that

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these are people who will do a very quick assimilation

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to this country. And even like as they landed, they're

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like flying American flags and kissing the ground and saying

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thank you for letting us come here were.

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Speaker 1: You know, do you think any of them will ever

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throw flames at Jewish people were marching? Do you think

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any of them going to blow something up?

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Speaker 2: I doubt it, right, So that's my point is I

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understand that the country it has like a difference from

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a lot of other countries, although I think even that

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is like overstated. The idea that you can't think about

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who assimilates well and what culture, values and norms assimilate

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well with we with what our ancestors fought very hard

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to establish in this country. It's insane and stupid, Like

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people are pretending to be stupid when they say stuff like,

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do we really not understand that Islam has a component

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in it like that is legendarily hostile to Judaism, Which

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is not the same thing as saying a Muslim can't

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live here, a Muslim can't be a good American, or

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that a Muslim can't immigrate here. You know what I mean? Yeah,

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I agree, Yeah, but to not understand that there's quite

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a history of Islam not being a religion of peace

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when it comes to Jews and Christians, like you just

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have to pretend to be stupider than you are to

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say that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I just want to say it.

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I'm not saying Muslims can't be assimilated at all. I'm

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saying that it's a concern that we should that's fair

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to talk about with some people. And I would say this,

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the person who executed the two workers at the Israeli embassy,

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that guy, you know, he was I think he was

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a Mexican descent or whatever it was. You know, he

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was an American, And.

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Speaker 2: Like the guy who I think firebombed the Governor's mansion

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was also American. And to your point, we got enough

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problems with Americans here exactly, no need to add to

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it with like importing problems exactly.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just anti Semitism. I don't want to

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bring anyone here who can't live with other people, can't

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respect other people's you know, traditions, religion, points of view, whatever,

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we need to live together. We're going to have a

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diverse nation, obviously.

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Speaker 3: Do you think you can afford your own car payment?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's a good segue. Let's talk about this another

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Washington Post headline, okay from their editorial page or no,

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this is a news story and it just said the

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mysterious drop in fetnyl seizures on the US Mexico border

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they're completely flummixed. They don't know what happened down there.

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All of a sudden, there's less, you know, or fewer

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apprehensions of people, you know, bringing drugs into the country.

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How on earth did that happen? Many do you think?

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Do you think you could crack the mystery. I think

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that maybe the administration did something about the border, right,

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But they're surprised or don't understand why people are killing,

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you know, want to burn Jews alive. They're surprised, and

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they don't understand why we need borders closed. I mean,

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it is just I don't even know what to say anymore.

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That's what I'm saying. I was going to just be ranting.

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I'm reading all this this morning, and I'm just like,

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you know, we have a media that is in the

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Washington Post, okay, one of the it's the premiere, one

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of the premiere papers in the country. It is in

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our nation's capital, should be one of our best papers

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and most reliable papers. And they're a joke. They're an

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absolute joke. I mean, I've written for them in the past.

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I wouldn't I wouldn't even write for them now if

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they asked me, you know.

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Speaker 2: I always feel so badly, Like there'll be like, you know,

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some writer at Reason who's like, I'm proud to announce

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my first time being published in the Washington Post or

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New York Times. I'm like, Oh, that's really sad that

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you think that's something to aspire to. And that might

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explain why you're so bad at your job already, is

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that you think that that's something that you would want

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to have at some point, like after decades of the

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Washington Post being what it is, I actually just like

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get annoyed when people even pretend like it's a paper

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of prestige or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: If they let me rip into some of their own writers,

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then I would write for It's all the time.

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Speaker 2: Or like my real favorite thing is when people are

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excited to be published in the New York Times. Literally,

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ninety five percent of the time that someone who's not

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a leftist is allowed to publish at the New York Times,

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all they have to do is attack the right. That's

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all you have to do to get published in the

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New York Times. It's actually not even difficult to get

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published in the New York Times. You just have to

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attack the right, and if you are willing to do that,

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and a lot of people are so like desperate for

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love from the left that they'll do it. You get published. Anyway,

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back to the immigration thing, though, I want to point

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out that Colorado has a policy of being hostile to

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immigration federal law enforcement. And this guy, as we noted,

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had over state as visa, was here illegally and also

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with his wife and five children by the way, so

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not just like a random dude over here, but had

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like moved his whole family here, and I think had

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no intention of doing anything other than staying. And Colorado

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has a policy of making it difficult for removal of

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people who are in the country illegally. They have many

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such policies. I'm sure Boulder and Denver sanctuary cities, and

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there are consequences to this. You have a guy lobbing

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molotov cocktails at a peaceful protest designed to make sure

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people don't forget the remaining Israeli hostages, and he's here

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in part because of the policies of the Colorado governor

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and legislature, and they should be held accountable for it too.

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Speaker 1: The city of Boulder has formally declared itself a sanctuary

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city committed to fostering equity, social justice, of protecting the

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human rights of all persons, regardless of immigration status.

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Speaker 2: One of our editors went to high school near Boulder,

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and she looked up what the Boulder official pages said,

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and they were loath to describe it as a terrorist

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attack or to be specific about who was targeted or

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by whom.

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Speaker 1: But so it was the New York you know, many

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many years ago, probably twenty years ago now, I went

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to a pro Israel demonstration in Boulder. I could have

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sworn I wrote about it, but I can't find the column.

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And I was surrounded. I had said something, and I

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was surrounded by people who were kind of trying to

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intimidate me. I think there were students or something like that,

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and I wish I could find the column. And maybe

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I just passed on it because I'd gotten personally involved

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in that way. So I don't know. But anyway, it

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is always such a weird place. But anyway, I'm not blaming.

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I mean, it's not just Boulder. It happened in DC,

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it happened in Pennsylvania. It's you know, it's something that I,

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unfortunately I think is going to happen again until we

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start really I don't know. I don't know what we

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can do with this.

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Speaker 2: Well. I was glad to see like they'd rounded up

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the family member of the guy who was on video

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appearing to, you know, take credit for the firebombing of

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the Peaceful March, and Marco Rubio was like, if you're

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doing terrorist stuff, you and your whole family are going

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to be like quickly ex but di ided out of

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the country.

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Speaker 1: You know, speaking of immigration, did you see this story

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about a Chinese national I believe it is teaches at

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the University of Michigan. It was caught trying to smuggle

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in a biological pathogen that could, if released, devastates certain crops,

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including wheat. I believe, though I might have the science

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wrong on that, and he said that he had brought

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it in for research, only for research. So this whole

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thing with like Mahmut Khalil and these people, I don't

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want them here. I certainly don't want to give them citizenship,

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but we have to be careful about Chikom's as well.

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Now I'm not the Chinese people are fine, and there

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are great Chinese Americans, but Chai com you know, spies

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and Chai Coom people want to bring in pathogens. I mean,

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something we have to be more vigilant about. Clearly.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever watch the TV show The American Not really?

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Speaker 1: No, And just to begin, that's so good, that's a

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good sleeper sells sleeper cells in here. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I think one of the subplots involved my confusing

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different TV shows or movies. Some movie or TV show

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I watched there about the Russians trying to hurt the

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weed or we were trying to hurt the Russian weed

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or something out of them. Yeah, and there are a lot.

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So the issue with the Chinese Communist Party is they

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demand things of their Chinese citizens who come to the

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United States that other countries don't, including like reporting back

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and basically being under the thumb of the Communist Party,

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And so we should be much more careful. It's like

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pretty rampant amounts of immigration. Also, there's just the issue

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of you know, like when Harvard they were getting penalized

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and that with all of the like insane amounts of

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taxpayer funding they get, and they were saying, like, our

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foreign student base is the heart of our university. There's

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also this issue where we have people from hostile foreign

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countries coming in receiving the best possible education going back

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into communist environments and with state controlled means of production,

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competing against the United States. So you actually have Harvard

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and other institutions acting as agents of harm to the

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United States, like knowingly, willingly, happily claiming it's the heart

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of their institution. Like if that's true, they should just

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actually be shut down because as much good as you

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could possibly imagine coming from a Harvard education for an American,

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if it's true that twenty five percent of their student

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body is foreign and a lot of these are from

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communist countries and they're being educated in order to basically

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go to war against the United States, like any institution

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harboring that should be shut down.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean Harvard, I believe, I don't have a

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story in front of me. I mean has trained chi

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comm officials, I mean knowingly kind of you know, in

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conjunction with the with the Chinese government train them now,

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you know, I read somewhere that around sense seems like

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high number fifty percent of you know, students come here

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stay here in some capacity. I don't know if that's

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true or not, But if these schools and it's not

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just China's cutter or qatar As I say that spend

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you know, billions, not millions, billions on these schools and uh,

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and that's something to think about. Now. I don't know

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what to do about it. But bolstering these institutions that

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already get that money with taxpayer dollars, well that's insane,

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you know.

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Speaker 2: So, so did you hear the big story, Like it's

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it's kind of crazy. The Russia coclusion hope story keeps

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keeps occurring. But last week Chuck Grassley put out a

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release about a document showing that Nelly Or, who's the

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wife of Bruce Orr, who was then the number three

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guy at Department of Justice, that she had lied to

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Congress dead to rights twice and another couple of times

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she seemed to applied to Congress. And so there was

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this document showing this, and Chuck Grassley released it, and

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everyone's kind of going through the document and they're like, oh,

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there's some really interesting stuff in this document. But in

476
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the document it also reveals something that is like such

477
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a big scandal, it's almost hard to believe it's real,

478
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but it is real, which is that the FBI has

479
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a database system called sentinel where they put all their

480
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case files. Have you heard of that sentinel? Yeah, And

481
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sometimes you are working on information and it's actually really

482
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sensitive and you don't want everybody in the FBI to

483
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know it. So they have a way that you can

484
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restrict access to those files while still putting it in

485
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the sentinel system. And if you're flagging a search for

486
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something and it comes up that there's restricted access, there

487
00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:07,240
are ways that you can kind of like interrogate whether

488
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you can get access to it or not. Or let's

489
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say you were charged with providing the Brady material for something.

490
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You know what Brady material is where the Supreme Court

491
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is said that in a criminal case, the government asked

492
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to supply any and all information it has on it,

493
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including an you know, particularly anything exculpatory. And so you

494
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,720
have to do Brady searches and those are really important.

495
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And so like let's say you're doing a Brady search

496
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and something comes up restricted access, you can like figure

497
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out a way to get that information or see if

498
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that information is responsive to your search. Well, it turns out,

499
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unbeknownst to like even very high level people at the FBI,

500
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there was a third tier in which information was put

501
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in and it was so restricted that you didn't even

502
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know it existed. Like, it wasn't just restricted access, it

503
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was prohibited.

504
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Speaker 1: Access for who like just for normal agents and only like.

505
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Speaker 2: And so, and there's no way to know. There's no

506
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like master file of prohibited access items. And a whistleblower

507
00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:18,279
went to Chuck Grassley to kind of just basically let

508
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it be.

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Speaker 1: You know.

510
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Speaker 2: That was the actual big news that came out of

511
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Chuck Grassley's office, I think, was that the FBI has

512
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been harboring really important information in a prohibited access area

513
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of Sentinel so that nobody even knew. And so the

514
00:28:34,279 --> 00:28:38,720
Molar probe was stashing stuff into the prohibited access area.

515
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And it appears like we're digging into this story quite

516
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,519
zealously right now, but it appears that the Durham investigation

517
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,200
did not know about these files. We had a story

518
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,000
this week from Margot Cleveland showing that the guy who

519
00:28:55,119 --> 00:28:59,599
was tasked with like digging into Joe Biden corruption did

520
00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:02,440
not know about the existence of this prohibited access area

521
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,559
in which, you know, lots of key information was being stashed.

522
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,119
I don't think the Inspector General who was supposed to

523
00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:14,200
dig into the Russia collusion probe knew about this prohibited

524
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,559
access area, and this is where they were put you know,

525
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,759
So they were putting stuff in there about Nelly or

526
00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:24,039
who should have been charged with crimes, with felony crimes

527
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,880
for a lying to Congress. They were hiding stuff from Congress.

528
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So Congress would ask for information and the FBI would

529
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:32,759
come back and say, we don't have anything responsive to

530
00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:36,240
that request, or Foyer searches would come in and they say, oh,

531
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we don't have anything responsive to that request. And there

532
00:29:39,599 --> 00:29:43,519
was enough stuff where people knew there was information that

533
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,240
It's kind of like I think led to these whistleblowers

534
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,079
revealing the existence of this super secret area. But I

535
00:29:50,079 --> 00:29:55,720
mean this is like Gestapo, Communist party style like hidden information,

536
00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:59,759
and they were using it not for any like good

537
00:29:59,799 --> 00:30:02,519
pers but to cover up their own crimes of the

538
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,720
Russia collusion hoax.

539
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:09,519
Speaker 1: So we we know this tier of secret you know

540
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,200
files existed, do we know have people seen the files

541
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or we just know that it exists, and still we

542
00:30:15,359 --> 00:30:16,799
have to sit through it.

543
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Speaker 2: One of the challenges is, again, like I said, there's

544
00:30:19,759 --> 00:30:22,839
no master list of what's in the prohibited access files.

545
00:30:23,799 --> 00:30:29,279
You basically have to know a file exists to begin

546
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,160
to even like hope finding it in the prohibited access

547
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,640
Like the people who put it in there, they know

548
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,119
what's in there. But if you're like trying to root

549
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,799
out corruption, you don't know what you don't know, so

550
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:43,599
it's very hard to find out. But there were some again,

551
00:30:43,599 --> 00:30:47,039
there was apparently some whistleblowers. Grassley is very good at

552
00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:52,279
working with whistleblowers, whether they are whether they're you know,

553
00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:56,400
helping out Democrats or Republican administrations. He's very good and

554
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,720
consistent about that, and I think that paid off in

555
00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:00,279
this case.

556
00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: But this is.

557
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: Really bad. I mean, avoiding congressional oversight by hiding documents,

558
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,079
that's pretty bad.

559
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,599
Speaker 1: Who is h I hope Senator Grassley lives a long time,

560
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,839
but he's always up there. Who is going to take

561
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,799
over his sort of dogged investigative, you know role once

562
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,200
he retires.

563
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Speaker 2: I've thought about this a lot, because you know, he

564
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,079
is like literally in his nineties, and you need a

565
00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:35,599
guy who's as strong as he is to lead the shop.

566
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But he's always had really good people working for him

567
00:31:39,839 --> 00:31:44,359
who care about the cause of whistleblower protection and government transparency.

568
00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:47,799
So I hope, like when he moves on from the Senate,

569
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that either he's replaced by someone who cares at the

570
00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:54,599
same level, or that the people can like move that

571
00:31:55,119 --> 00:31:58,240
Integrity Unit to another Senate office, because it's very important

572
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,960
to have it. I just want to also say that

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after this all broke, Margot was pointing out that I

574
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,000
don't know if you saw the interview with by Brett

575
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,319
Baer of Cash Patel.

576
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:09,519
Speaker 1: No.

577
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: He says in it something about how like a lot

578
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is going to be coming out, and Brett is asking,

579
00:32:16,759 --> 00:32:19,440
you know, some questions about like when and how, and

580
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,599
he basically alludes to the discovery of information that he

581
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didn't even know existed. And Cash Patel got his job

582
00:32:27,759 --> 00:32:31,480
as FBI director because he was the guy who unraveled

583
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,480
the Russia collusion hooks. If there's a document to know about,

584
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,759
Cash Patel knew about it. You know, he came from

585
00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:41,319
the FBI, he or came from the Department of Justice,

586
00:32:41,319 --> 00:32:45,440
and he like understood the system and everything. And if

587
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,279
you rewatch that interview, it's pretty interesting to kind of realize, like, oh,

588
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:50,960
he he just learned about this himself.

589
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: Democrats are going to frame all this sort of vengeance

590
00:32:54,319 --> 00:32:57,079
or whatever. I don't really care about that, but I

591
00:32:57,079 --> 00:32:59,680
actually think someone has There has to be some sort

592
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,920
of percussion for what went on, not because I want

593
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,319
to punish those people, though I think they deserve it. It's

594
00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:09,799
more like moving forward, right. If no one ever has

595
00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:13,039
to answer for this sort of corruption, the corruption goes

596
00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:16,160
on and on. It will happen next time, It'll happen, now,

597
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,119
you know what I mean. So I feel like that's

598
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,200
the real good argument for why we need to uncover

599
00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:22,839
what happened.

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Speaker 2: I mean, one of the things that's so evil about

601
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,920
what they did with hiding this information is it's hidden

602
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:31,880
past the point of the statute of limitations for a

603
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,039
lot of the activity that you could engage in or

604
00:33:35,079 --> 00:33:38,720
it might be. And of course, if no one's held

605
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,759
accountable for one of them, like one of the most insane,

606
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:44,960
horrible things to ever happen in this country, which is

607
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:47,799
the FBI trying to run a coup on a duly

608
00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:51,359
elected president, then you kind of seems to function as

609
00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:52,519
a legitimate country.

610
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: Once they started hiding things on third tier, third tier

611
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,759
computer systems or whatever, that signals to me that they

612
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,079
they were up to no good. There has to be

613
00:34:02,119 --> 00:34:03,680
some accountability.

614
00:34:03,319 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: Marco was talking to different people, like at very high

615
00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:10,239
levels at Department of Justice, and they had no idea

616
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that this was going on.

617
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Speaker 1: I mean.

618
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Speaker 2: Also, actually I had some questions when I was like

619
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,719
digging into this myself, like it was my understanding and

620
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,039
still is that basically the FBI was all in cahoots

621
00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:29,039
with the Russia collusion hoax. So to have a whistleblower

622
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:34,519
who knows about this system revealing it to the Senate

623
00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:37,239
Oversight you know that handles this or the Senate whistleblower

624
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,039
guru Chuck Grassley, must mean that there's at least one

625
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:44,119
person within the FBI, like at a pretty high level.

626
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,400
And I could be wrong about this, but I think

627
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,280
what was going on is even while the Russia collusion

628
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,199
hoax was going on, there were good and proper people

629
00:34:54,440 --> 00:35:00,360
trying to do their jobs of unraveling it, and they

630
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,000
were thwarted by this hiding of information. I think that's

631
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,719
how it ended up coming out, was that they knew

632
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,440
something was happening, They knew information was there that was

633
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,199
getting disappeared, and they kept on trying to figure it out.

634
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,599
And I think that's how we learned about this completely unconstitutional,

635
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,119
prohibited access area that is now being broken wide open.

636
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,519
Speaker 1: I guess I should ask or play Devil's advocate here

637
00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:31,480
and say, now, when you're conducting investigations, when there are

638
00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:36,519
leaks within whatever department you're talking about, don't people in

639
00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:38,960
charge need to have some kind of way to communicate

640
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,840
with each other, to have some sort of system where

641
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,960
they can talk about highly sensitive documents things of that nature.

642
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,159
I mean, there has to be some secrecy when you're

643
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,480
investigative unit or whatever.

644
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: That's what the restricted access area is for. That so

645
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:56,679
that your investigation is not being compromised while it's going

646
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:01,840
on prohibited access, which prevents discovery of even like the

647
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:07,000
existence of certain information that is responsive to congressional query

648
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,840
or foyer. You know, that's the law. The law says,

649
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:13,280
there's Freedom of Information Act that has all sorts of

650
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,000
rules governing like yeah, you might not get the information,

651
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,039
but if you're told we have nothing responsive to this,

652
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:26,920
like nothing exists, that can seriously derail outside investigation and oversight.

653
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,239
If Congress says, hand us, like your information on Nelly

654
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,880
or or whatever, and they say we have no information

655
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:38,599
on Nelly or that can materially harm a congressional investigation

656
00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:43,519
as opposed to saying we're not able to give you

657
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:45,719
the information that we have right now. Do you understand

658
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:46,239
what I'm saying?

659
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:53,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do. Okay, let's move on to culture.

660
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,199
One quick thing to say, just the correction from last

661
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:00,920
week because someone sent an email about it. Yeah, we

662
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,239
were talking another very fun topic. We were talking about

663
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,960
the Holocauster trip to Poland. I'd said something like Hungary

664
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:11,639
was resistant to Nazis. That came off like I had

665
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,760
said that the Hungarians were protecting Jews from the Nazis.

666
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,679
That's not what I meant at all. I meant that

667
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,239
they had tried to make a separate peace with the West.

668
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,519
You know, they were resistant to basically ending where the

669
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,039
Germany ended up. You know what I'm saying. I wasn't

670
00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:29,119
talking about Jews. I think maybe that was a side

671
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:31,840
effect that they were the last taken, but they were

672
00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:38,079
quite often quite enthusiastic participants in what happened to Jewish people.

673
00:37:38,119 --> 00:37:40,320
I just wanted to clarify that in case someone comes back,

674
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,719
like ten years from now, it's like David said something crazy.

675
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: So on that note of that conversation last week and

676
00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:48,599
how i'd been in Poland and got man. We have

677
00:37:48,679 --> 00:37:51,400
a lot of Polish listeners, by the way, so that

678
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,400
was fun to get email from people about my newfound

679
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,159
love of Poland. But Poland had presidential elections this weekend

680
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:05,000
and the more right leaning guy was elected in what

681
00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:07,239
it was viewed by many as is a pretty big

682
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,840
upset over the war Warsaw mayor who's pretty liberal. And

683
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,519
the guy who was elected Carol what is it, no

684
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:18,800
Rica or something, I forget the name. He's very US friendly,

685
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:20,400
and so I think a lot of people in the

686
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,079
US and Poland are excited about a new front. Like

687
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:30,400
who's Anne Applebaum's husband. Anne Applebaum's husband was the foreign

688
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:37,440
minister of the liberal government, maybe still is Ratislaw Sikorski,

689
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,719
and he's like trumped arranged, as is his wife, and

690
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,320
they have been basically running like in fact even pushing,

691
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,159
Like I wrote a piece about this many months ago,

692
00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:52,599
some of the people in the left leaning Polish government

693
00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:55,440
were pushing the Russia collusion hoax at a very late date,

694
00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:58,199
and the Polish people have just kind of had enough

695
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,320
of this and unseen are put in this new more

696
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:07,119
conservative president. They still have their prime minister. Okay, so

697
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:10,840
we get this email from Daniel saying, Molly, David, whoever

698
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,119
is monitoring this as if we have like a large

699
00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:17,679
staff of people monitoring our email. With all the disdain

700
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,320
both you and David have had for the White House

701
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,760
Press correspondence over the year. Over the years, it's kind

702
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,599
of hard to believe you'd have the audacity to sit

703
00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:29,000
in on a press briefing and associate with all of

704
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:34,880
those smug, uncurious so called journalists who are all about gatekeeping, prestige,

705
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,960
and privilege. Anyway, perhaps this will be addressed in the

706
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,519
future podcast.

707
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: So tell us what happened, Molly.

708
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, so, first off, the White House Correspondence Association

709
00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:52,320
has been neutered and made marginalized under this White House.

710
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,559
So the White House Correspondence Association, which really acted as

711
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:59,400
a cartel and gatekeeping organization, no longer has this wait.

712
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,400
So they used to actually assign seats and dictate who

713
00:40:04,519 --> 00:40:07,960
got to ask questions basically, or who would go first,

714
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,679
who would go last, and where you got sat was

715
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:15,519
all based on, you know, how much power you had

716
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:18,519
in the White House Correspondents Association, and this Trump White

717
00:40:18,519 --> 00:40:20,239
House just kind of said we're no longer playing that game,

718
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,440
so they handle one of the cool things if the

719
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,039
White House Correspondent Association did that nobody wants to do,

720
00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:29,679
is handled press rotation pool rotation. So you can't have

721
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,800
everybody who's a White House correspondent at every event. So

722
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,760
you pick certain people to be in the pool on

723
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,559
a given day and like, if that's the day that

724
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:40,400
exciting news happens, you get to be there. And if

725
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,159
it's a day that nothing happens, and oh, that's your day.

726
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,440
So now the White House handles its own pool rotation.

727
00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:49,159
And one of the changes they made was to create

728
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:55,199
a new media seat. And that seat is just right

729
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,800
off it's like right at the front, and if you're

730
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,840
in the new media seat, usually get to ask a

731
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,599
question that day. And so with my cough and my

732
00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:10,760
horrible illness and everything last week, they asked if or

733
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,239
you know, I got I got it that day. Like

734
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,239
we put our name in immediately when they announced the

735
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,599
new media seat, like thousands of people put in their

736
00:41:17,679 --> 00:41:19,159
name for like, I'd like to be in the new

737
00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:22,079
media seat. It's kind of funny because, as you know, David,

738
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:24,400
we've been around since twenty thirteen, so we're not like

739
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:27,119
all that new, but new relative to you know, a

740
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:30,599
two hundred year old publication, and then you can you know,

741
00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:32,760
you can ask what you want. And so I asked

742
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:37,880
a question about the seeming lack of a plan that

743
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,760
the White House has to respond to the judicial coup

744
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:46,159
going on, and Caroline leave it. I don't think like

745
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,280
had the you know, most responsive answer to what I said,

746
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,400
But I enjoyed asking the question. I even enjoyed asking

747
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,159
a tough question from the right. So you hear tough

748
00:41:58,199 --> 00:42:00,639
for hostile questions all the time from the left, you know,

749
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,039
why do you eat babies? Or why do you kill

750
00:42:03,079 --> 00:42:06,400
grandma's or you know, why are you so awful? But

751
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,679
you rarely get to hear like tough questions from the right,

752
00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:11,000
where you're saying, why aren't you doing more here? Why

753
00:42:11,039 --> 00:42:13,159
are you letting this happen? What's your actual plan? You

754
00:42:13,199 --> 00:42:15,559
don't seem to have a plan to stop this judicial coup?

755
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,039
And so it was fun to ask from that side.

756
00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:21,440
And I also like even though I attacked the room

757
00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:24,119
when I asked the question, like I pointed out that

758
00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:26,320
a bunch of the people in the room had pushed

759
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,480
the Russia collusion hoax or worked for media outlets that

760
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:32,880
did I got like a very nice reception in the room.

761
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,119
So even like people were joking that I a lot

762
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:36,880
of the people who's in that new media seat ask

763
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,000
questions that are sort of like how awesome is it

764
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:43,159
to work for Donald Trump? You know, They're very friendly questions.

765
00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:45,039
And so a bunch of people were teasing me that

766
00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:46,639
I didn't get the memo that I was supposed to

767
00:42:46,679 --> 00:42:51,760
ask a puffball question or stuff like that. I, you.

768
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: Know, just going back to that email of the guys

769
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,559
sent I don't really have a problem with gatekeepers like everywhere,

770
00:42:56,599 --> 00:42:59,360
Like the word gatekeeping doesn't really bother me. I just

771
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,559
want it to gate kept so that there are real

772
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:04,079
reporters in there who are attack dogs, who are asking

773
00:43:04,199 --> 00:43:07,159
real questions, who are and I don't mean gaatekeeping like

774
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,880
keeping out a certain kind of ideological person or anything

775
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,880
like that. I just want people who are doing their

776
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,639
jobs in there and letting someone to come and sit

777
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,239
and say, oh, isn't it great to work for Donald Trump?

778
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,400
That's a waste of time. You want people listen, Most

779
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,440
of my attacks I guess against Trump, or I won't

780
00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:28,559
call them a criticisms are from the right, I think,

781
00:43:28,599 --> 00:43:32,199
And you know that's important too, you need both, but

782
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:32,599
it's like.

783
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: It doesn't exist if you're critiquing from the right, it

784
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,519
doesn't count in the minds of a lot of like

785
00:43:36,559 --> 00:43:41,280
Trump ranged individuals. And yeah, every time. What I find

786
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,239
funny about is, first off, in normal people, like a

787
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,880
normal Fox viewer, for instance, if I offer a critique

788
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,800
from the conservative perspective, nobody is like, why are you

789
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,760
being so mean to Donald Trump? Or not nobody, but

790
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,719
almost nobody is like why are you being mean? Because

791
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,400
they probably have this similar thought you know themselves, like

792
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,159
why isn't this getting done? Or why is it that

793
00:44:00,199 --> 00:44:03,920
getting done? But people who are Trump arranged, unless you

794
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,599
adopt their criticism of Trump, your criticism doesn't count and

795
00:44:08,639 --> 00:44:10,280
not like I think my job is to be critical

796
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,639
per se, Like my that's you know, that's just as

797
00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:18,719
silly as being reflexively positive. But it's hard for people

798
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,280
to understand, like the media environment is so left wing

799
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,440
they only understand criticism from the left. They never really

800
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,480
hear it from the right. But I will say my

801
00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:30,199
mom was like, I thought your question was kind of

802
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,119
tough because she loves Caroline leave It, so she just

803
00:44:34,199 --> 00:44:37,239
thought maybe that was mean to ask a tough question,

804
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,280
and I had to explain to mom that Caroline leave

805
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,199
It and I have different jobs. And you know, her

806
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,360
job is to articulate on behalf of the president. In

807
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:50,320
mine is to ask questions for the federalists. And those

808
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,960
are different jobs. They don't need to be completely hostile,

809
00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:58,360
but they're not necessarily anywhere near the same objective.

810
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: Get mad, I mean, I write a column criticizing Donald

811
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,559
trup on tariffs or protectionism, right, and then some left

812
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:10,480
winger likes it or whatever. It just makes me mad,

813
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,039
do you know what I'm saying? Because they are nowhere

814
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:15,719
to be found. Like, I don't feel like it's brave

815
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,119
or anything. Trusts me. I think it's fun to be

816
00:45:18,199 --> 00:45:20,719
able to criticize people in power, but they're nowhere to

817
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,519
be found when Biden's around, you know what I mean,

818
00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:26,480
And there they are a little like just annoys me.

819
00:45:26,599 --> 00:45:31,000
It doesn't make me happy whatsoever. Anyway, Congratulations, I think

820
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:31,559
that's cool.

821
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fun. Yeah, I just wish I didn't

822
00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:37,320
have a cough Like I had to really focus on

823
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,480
not coughing, as you've heard in this podcast as well.

824
00:45:41,679 --> 00:45:44,840
By the way, I think maybe a Chinese scientist imported

825
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,320
a virus that has been given to me.

826
00:45:48,159 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you'll get over it soon.

827
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: It is just joking to all my as well our

828
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,559
communist Chinese listeners.

829
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,599
Speaker 1: Culture. I want to talk about it. Yeah, I don't

830
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:03,599
know much. You go, okay. I watched a few shows

831
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:05,599
Department Q.

832
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,159
Speaker 2: Oh didn't a listener recommend that to us?

833
00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:14,199
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah he did, he did.

834
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,519
And another show called Death Valley, which I haven't been

835
00:46:16,519 --> 00:46:20,039
able to track down yet. A British show. Yeah. This

836
00:46:20,119 --> 00:46:22,840
is a guy named Matthew Good I think is how

837
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,159
you pronounced it is in it. He was like a

838
00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:28,360
British actor, I believe. And then a bunch of Scottish

839
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,320
actresses and actors are in It happens in Scotland. It's

840
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,440
like a detective show. I think it's pretty good so far.

841
00:46:35,639 --> 00:46:37,719
I've only watched I think in episode and a half.

842
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,280
I enjoyed it. The other thing I finished watching is

843
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,719
mob Land, which I really have to recommend. Tom Hardy

844
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,840
is in it. I mean, this is a Guy Ritchie show,

845
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,599
so that's but it's not like the movie I recommended

846
00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:53,360
last week. This is Guy Ritchie as you as people

847
00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:56,840
like Guy Ritchie stuff, you know, it's a mob mob show.

848
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,639
And then I finished watching the best I think what

849
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:04,000
I would call the best Star Wars show I guess

850
00:47:04,039 --> 00:47:07,159
made and or I loved the first season. I thought

851
00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:12,320
it was just fantastic. This one I found not as great,

852
00:47:12,519 --> 00:47:16,599
still interested enough, interesting enough to hold my attention through

853
00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:19,599
the whole deal. So that's it for me.

854
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 2: Okay, well I have almost nothing. But I saw a

855
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,360
Netflix movie called Nona's.

856
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,039
Speaker 1: I watched that you did last week? I forgot to

857
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:36,119
mention it. Yeah, I mean I watch anything Vince vawn Is,

858
00:47:36,159 --> 00:47:37,480
and I think I'm just a fan.

859
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: So that's kind of where I am. I love Vince Vaughn.

860
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,239
It was PG. I was traveling with my kid and

861
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,760
so we were just like trying to decompress, and so

862
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,440
it's like, I'll watch it, and I thought it was fine,

863
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:56,280
but I do have a complaint about it. So it's

864
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:00,320
about this guy whose mom dies and he's struggled with that,

865
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,480
and then he decides to open up a restaurant where

866
00:48:03,079 --> 00:48:08,559
known as like Italian grandmothers make their favorite meals and

867
00:48:08,599 --> 00:48:11,480
it's like a it's like a new restaurant, and then

868
00:48:11,519 --> 00:48:15,159
it struggles to work and there are all these subplots

869
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:20,360
and there it's like star studded cast like Vin's Vaughn,

870
00:48:20,559 --> 00:48:24,920
Susan Sarandon, Lorraine Brocco, Talia Shire. Did you realize that

871
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:30,719
was Tymo Shire? Linda Cardelini, you know, just toun Dreda

872
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,400
Matteo who I really like.

873
00:48:33,159 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: Brenda vccaro was big when I was a kid, and

874
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,440
she was in a lot of movies. She was in it.

875
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 2: Do I know her? I mean I know who she was.

876
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: She was, Yeah, yeah, she was in a lot of

877
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,840
movies in the seventies and even in the eighties, I

878
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,639
think so.

879
00:48:48,639 --> 00:48:52,079
Speaker 2: My complaint was, there's like this scene where Susan Sarandon,

880
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:57,639
who plays the part of like I have a derisive

881
00:48:57,679 --> 00:49:01,280
word for who she is, an unmare married woman who

882
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:02,639
chose to not be married.

883
00:49:03,199 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: Can we talk about her for a moment. She looks

884
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,440
fantastic for her age? Am I wrong about this?

885
00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 2: How old is she? I don't know?

886
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: If she doesn't you take a guess how old she is?

887
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:16,559
Seventy she's seventy eight years old? Whoa? I mean, she

888
00:49:16,639 --> 00:49:19,599
looks like she's in good shape. She looks younger. She's

889
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,280
really doesn't.

890
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:28,159
Speaker 2: He plays like a in this Yes, Okay, So Susan

891
00:49:28,199 --> 00:49:32,000
Sarandon plays this like intentionally unmarried hairdresser who's also the

892
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,119
pastry chef and she has the other known as over

893
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,440
for like a makeover, and they're talking about things and

894
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:43,239
Lorraine Broco who also like I mean, it was like

895
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,079
the equivalent of when they put the glasses on a

896
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:48,639
teenage girl and then she takes them off and she's

897
00:49:48,679 --> 00:49:51,719
actually really pretty. Kind of did that with Lorraine Bracco's

898
00:49:52,039 --> 00:49:58,079
Broccos character and then but the Talia Shire one annoyed me.

899
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,119
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

900
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, they're all talking and like about you know,

901
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,000
she's she left them the nunnery to come work at

902
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,880
the restaurant, and then she reveals that she did have

903
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,079
a love of her life and his name was Isabella.

904
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,119
So she's like, in no way does being gay match

905
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,960
in any way with her character. And it was so

906
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,800
obviously like put in there just to achieve some kind

907
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:31,159
of diversity inclusions so they can be you know, so

908
00:50:31,159 --> 00:50:33,079
they won't get like kicked off the air or whatever,

909
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:35,239
and it was so stupid and annoying and it made

910
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:36,719
me hate everybody.

911
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,159
Speaker 1: I yeah, you know, I thought the movie sucked. Really,

912
00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:42,639
you know, I'm just gonna be honest, I wanted to

913
00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:45,400
watch it. I love movies where people making Italian food.

914
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,400
You know, my wife's Italian, big Italian family. I like it.

915
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,960
I feel a bit of you know, sort of through

916
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,159
through proxy part of it, you know what I mean.

917
00:50:53,199 --> 00:50:57,000
But the movie was just, first of all, it's just weak. Yeah,

918
00:50:57,039 --> 00:50:59,880
it was just weak. That was that whole Talia shy

919
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:03,039
or none. Thing was shoehorned in and annoying. The way

920
00:51:03,639 --> 00:51:08,360
the how can I say? They were cartoonishly Italian in

921
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,920
a way that really Italians don't act like she's spinning

922
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,000
on the floor because this one's from Sicily and this

923
00:51:13,039 --> 00:51:15,199
I'm not saying there's no like, you know, tension there,

924
00:51:15,199 --> 00:51:17,760
but the way they did it was just nonsense and

925
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,719
it's fawness didn't seem Italian at all to me. You know.

926
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 2: So when we were in Poland, we went to some

927
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:31,039
quote unquote Jewish restaurants and they were joking, like our

928
00:51:31,079 --> 00:51:36,079
group was joking that they were like accidentally bigoted Jewish restaurants.

929
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:38,440
Like it was all these caricatures of what a Jew

930
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:42,639
is and chricatures of Jewish music, and like that's what

931
00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:43,599
this movie seemed like.

932
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I.

933
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,519
Speaker 2: Mean they are Italian movie.

934
00:51:48,199 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what it felt like. I mean I

935
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,880
thought I wanted to give it a slight pass because

936
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,840
I think that, like the heart of the movie, the

937
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,320
intention was nice. You know, these older people, you know,

938
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,559
have nothing going on, get to cook for people. It's

939
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:01,280
a nice.

940
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: I also just have to say I kind of have

941
00:52:04,519 --> 00:52:08,400
the hots for Linda CARLINI so like, if she's in

942
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,960
a movie or a TV show, she's very pretty, so

943
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,239
I like to watch her. And so she was the

944
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,440
love interest, and I liked that subplot. I liked everything

945
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,119
about it. You know, she's.

946
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:28,039
Speaker 1: Pretty for sure, I'm get in trouble the uh yeah. Also,

947
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,320
did you notice this weird thing that happened in the

948
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,159
movie where the flashbacks happened like in the sixties, and

949
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then they're supposed like Vince Vaughan's a kid in the

950
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sixties and he's supposed to be like in his fifties.

951
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Like it didn't. It didn't add up.

952
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 2: Oh to me, So I didn'ver saw it dated, Like

953
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if it said the sixties, I missed that. To me,

954
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:47,639
it looked like the seventies.

955
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Speaker 1: Okay, And now wait even then, yeah, I don't know.

956
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 2: And then wait, wait, I want to say further. The

957
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,199
song that was their prom song? What was that?

958
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 1: Oh? I forget, but it was was it out? It

959
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,559
was out of it was out of time as well.

960
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 2: No, it was from nineteen eighty six.

961
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so there you are right anyway, whatever I mean,

962
00:53:12,599 --> 00:53:14,360
I wish it was better. I wish it would be

963
00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:17,320
better with me, all right? Did you watch anything else?

964
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,440
It's so hard to find a movie where I can

965
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,880
watch it with your kids. Honestly, you know, my kids

966
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,880
are like in their twenties and I still won't watch

967
00:53:25,199 --> 00:53:27,599
I won't watch anything with them that's not g rated.

968
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:28,360
I want to.

969
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 2: I do want to mention one thing too. We have

970
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:34,960
this listener who texted me a picture of his church,

971
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,280
like a church building, intern church building that has a

972
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:44,079
Jerusalem Cross on it. Do you remember a couple months

973
00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:46,719
ago someone was like, oh, when when Pete heggsaid had

974
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,679
a Jerusalem Cross. Everybody was trying to say that it

975
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,000
was this like completely obscure symbol, and Pete was like, it's.

976
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Speaker 1: Just Christian white supremacist symbol.

977
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Speaker 2: And this guy was like, I've never seen one in

978
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,000
my life, and anyone who says they've seen one is

979
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a liar, And so this listener like texts a picture

980
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,519
of the church building or building at the church that

981
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has the Jerusalem Cross like in the brick. And I

982
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,559
was in Tennessee this weekend because one of my kids

983
00:54:13,639 --> 00:54:17,679
became a godmother to a baby who was baptized at

984
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a different Lutheran church. And of course, like on the

985
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,360
altar on the right, there's a Jerusalem Cross like mosaic.

986
00:54:25,039 --> 00:54:28,280
And I thought it was funny that, Yeah, people keep

987
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,159
seeing them all the time, like they're so common that

988
00:54:30,199 --> 00:54:31,920
you almost forget how often you see them.

989
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: I know someone who has that same tattoo, who I've

990
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,159
worked with in the past, who is in the world

991
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,559
right now right. I won't give away names of people

992
00:54:40,599 --> 00:54:42,599
because they might not want people to know who has

993
00:54:42,639 --> 00:54:45,199
that tattoo or rather large one on their arms. So

994
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,960
I've seen it my whole life, I think. And it

995
00:54:49,559 --> 00:54:53,280
was just one of these hit pieces again against a

996
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,960
Republican that has become the norm over the last thirty

997
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:03,159
years in the media. All it's great, okay, yeah, hopefully

998
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,840
keep sending the recommendations. Maybe that's where I got to Apartment Q.

999
00:55:07,079 --> 00:55:10,960
I appreciate it. Be back next week. Until then, below

1000
00:55:11,159 --> 00:55:13,000
free difference.

1001
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Speaker 2: Some things raw and mumbo mumbo mumbo