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<v Speaker 1>Roy, Welcome to Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing good? And Gil, how are you doing excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an absolute pleasure to have you on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Roy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you would tell me a little bit about yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>where you're from, and all your bigfoot experiences from the

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<v Speaker 1>very beginning, please all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Miguel currently from around Cleveland, Texas area. Been living in

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<v Speaker 2>East Texas now for several years. Pretty much most of

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<v Speaker 2>my life been you know here, been in Ohio. I

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<v Speaker 2>moved back down here and I think around nineties so,

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<v Speaker 2>but everything started for me in around two thousand and eight,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, when my mom had passed and little

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<v Speaker 2>things was going on and I was trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>out of the house a lot. My cousin reached out

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<v Speaker 2>to me. We had a dear lease that we was

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<v Speaker 2>going to in Plantersville, and he said, hey, man, I

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<v Speaker 2>got some things going on up here that is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of freaking me out. He said, I'm having some rocks

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<v Speaker 2>thrown at me, some tree limbs being broke, and he said, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I really need you to come up here. I'm freaking out.

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<v Speaker 2>I have my son with me. I'm not sure what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on. And I told him. I said, look, I

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<v Speaker 2>have to work tomorrow. Unfortunately I can't get up there

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<v Speaker 2>until after work. He said, that's fine, he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>figure it out. He locked the sun in the truck,

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<v Speaker 2>he got a gun, he laid up underneath the truck

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<v Speaker 2>because he was so freaked out. A lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>full story, I'd rather let him tell you, but cut

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<v Speaker 2>to the story we later on as I showed up,

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<v Speaker 2>I went up there. We was walking the pipeline because

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<v Speaker 2>there's a pipeline that cuts through the property. And we

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<v Speaker 2>was walking the pipeline and we found a print down

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<v Speaker 2>in the bottom of a ravine. It was very distinctive

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<v Speaker 2>in clay. I took pictures. You know, I have a

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<v Speaker 2>was eleven and a half twelve, So I took pictures

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<v Speaker 2>with my boot right next to it. It door for

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<v Speaker 2>my foot. It was crazy. And you know, really around

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<v Speaker 2>that time, I had some knowledge on Bigfoot, but we

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<v Speaker 2>really didn't put everything together. It didn't hit me, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess until later in life. You know, I have them pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>I had those pictures on a cell phone. But then

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<v Speaker 2>we're flip phoned because, like I said, two thousand and eight.

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<v Speaker 2>So but then around twenty eleven, I discovered a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of YouTube and was dabbling and all that. And

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<v Speaker 2>around twenty twenty I run into a buddy of mine

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<v Speaker 2>that was doing some big foot stuff. His name was

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<v Speaker 2>Shane Lee, and he introduced me into TAPS, which is

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<v Speaker 2>Texas Acknowledgement of Sasquatch and Preservation. So upon that was with.

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<v Speaker 2>The group went to a big meet in sam Houston

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<v Speaker 2>and it was kind of different, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>real close to one of the winners. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>real hard winner that year. So although we didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, you know, I'd learned from him talk to them.

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<v Speaker 2>There was wasn't a lot of stuff happening that year.

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<v Speaker 2>But later on, around twenty twenty one, we was back

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<v Speaker 2>in sam Houston and I run into a buddy of

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<v Speaker 2>mine that was there, Gabe Guerrero. He had run South

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<v Speaker 2>Texas Bigfoot Investigations. And upon this big meet, we all

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<v Speaker 2>decided we're gonna go to the Lone Star Trail and

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna split up on the Lone Star Trail. One

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<v Speaker 2>half the group's gonna start at the one end, the

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<v Speaker 2>other half will start on this end. So it's me, Gabe,

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<v Speaker 2>my wife, my son, his girlfriend. We was all on

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<v Speaker 2>the Lone Star Trail and we was walking towards one

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<v Speaker 2>another trail. It's about, I don't know, maybe a mile

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<v Speaker 2>two miles long, and we got so far in there

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<v Speaker 2>and we just decided, hey, you know, this is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a little while or whatever. We're gonna turn around

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<v Speaker 2>and go back. And during that time, I decided I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to hang back just a little bit. I

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<v Speaker 2>was actually playing a bullshit card. I was thinking, man,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is this is crazy. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing's gonna happen. So I held back a little ways.

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<v Speaker 2>And as they were walking off from me, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just standing there in the dark, thinking to myself, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is crazy. And I start walking back and I

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<v Speaker 2>hear I'm thinking that's kind of crazy. And so the

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<v Speaker 2>only way I can describe it, something come through the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>So I decided to catch up to everybody that was

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<v Speaker 2>walking in front of me. And as I'm walking along again,

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<v Speaker 2>I hear that time I knew something was thrown. Happens

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<v Speaker 2>twice you're in the woods. We were too far apart.

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<v Speaker 2>We tried to radio the other group it was we

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't hear them though, so far apart. So as we

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<v Speaker 2>get towards the end of the trail, we come up

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<v Speaker 2>to a little tea and games in front of me,

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<v Speaker 2>and he has this thermal and he says, I'm seeing something,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're all sitting there and we're looking. We kind

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<v Speaker 2>of gathered around him and he's sat there, and as

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<v Speaker 2>it comes up, we can start hearing it. And you

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<v Speaker 2>can tell this thing is pretty big, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>can hear it. And as it's coming up, I just

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<v Speaker 2>had this eerie feeling. We're all kind of nervous and

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<v Speaker 2>scared because it's dark, and it just as it got

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<v Speaker 2>closer and closer and closer than the nerves built up

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<v Speaker 2>everybody around us. And that so much you hear about,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people's crazy encounters. I decided to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>chill out, big guy, something to that manner, and it stopped,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's sitting there recording. He's got it all on

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<v Speaker 2>flir and he tried to send it to me, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think I did send to you the actual video

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<v Speaker 2>in a little I didn't get the audio. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>and so as it took about right face and turned

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<v Speaker 2>and walked away from us, and in the video it

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<v Speaker 2>looks like there's least three he said, as probably two

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<v Speaker 2>juveniles and a bigger one. And we went back the

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<v Speaker 2>next day and was checking out the area and now

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<v Speaker 2>it's tall palmeadows and there it goes down to water,

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<v Speaker 2>so there was actually everything in the video looks kind

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<v Speaker 2>of small, but it's downhill, so you know, there could

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<v Speaker 2>be a big high difference there. We didn't go back

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<v Speaker 2>and reenact anything. Never thought about anything like that, but uh,

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<v Speaker 2>later on we decided to uh go to the pipeline

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<v Speaker 2>which is further up in sam Houston, and my buddy

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<v Speaker 2>Shane and Gabe, they pull up in their car and

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<v Speaker 2>I pull up with my wife and we get out

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<v Speaker 2>on the pipeline and uh, Shane's walking around with me,

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<v Speaker 2>and we both walked the back car. Wife held back,

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<v Speaker 2>Gabe held back. He didn't even have his recorder, and

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, we're hearing whoop whoop, woop, whoop whoop,

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<v Speaker 2>and it sounded like it was singing. Now, this is

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<v Speaker 2>my first whoops that I ever heard. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>told my buddy is Shane. I said, Man, do you

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<v Speaker 2>recording your recording? He said no, no, no, no, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like man started to hurry, hurry. But about time

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<v Speaker 2>we started, everything ceased. So you know, that was a

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<v Speaker 2>little kind of crazy things that we've had going on

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<v Speaker 2>in sam Houston. Never had anything come into camp. We've

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<v Speaker 2>had that clothes counter there on the Lone Star. Then

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<v Speaker 2>I went with Shane Lee to Big Ticket. We have

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<v Speaker 2>an area out in Big Ticket that it's pretty promising.

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<v Speaker 2>We go every so often. Yeah, Shane is further away

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<v Speaker 2>from me, you know, I'm closer, so a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the people in the group are further away, so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't always get to go out. I will go out

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<v Speaker 2>by myself, as you know. But when me and Shane

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<v Speaker 2>was there, we had it. I watched a lot of YouTube,

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<v Speaker 2>so I learned from an older group. I can't remember

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<v Speaker 2>the YouTube channel name, but I seen them. They were

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<v Speaker 2>out gifting and feeding and when they would walk away

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<v Speaker 2>to let them know that they were there, they did

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<v Speaker 2>a rock clack and they had an immediate response of whoops.

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<v Speaker 2>So I decided while we was up there after finding

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<v Speaker 2>you know, twists and all kinds of scientists up there,

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<v Speaker 2>because Shane had told me, you know, he's had an

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<v Speaker 2>incident there. One of his big incidents is first with

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<v Speaker 2>his wife Anyways, so we did the rock clack with

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<v Speaker 2>Shane and we had an immediate response on the popeline

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<v Speaker 2>and we was both in shock and awe, it's crazy. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And then again we wasn't recording, so none of it's

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<v Speaker 2>on recording. It's just you know, it's your say. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>There's another time we had some rock clack responses. But

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<v Speaker 2>then again, you know, nothing's recorded. It always seems like

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<v Speaker 2>when you're recording, you won't hear anything. It's always real quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like you whip out a video camera, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everything goes dead or they don't want to make you know,

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<v Speaker 2>any noise. I don't know. I know you've probably had

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<v Speaker 2>that same thing happened to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely. What do you think the rock clacking means?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? For me, it's almost like I'm over here, because

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as I did it, it was a whoop back,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, they had used it to tell them

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<v Speaker 2>that the food was there, and then they answered that

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<v Speaker 2>they was there. So to me, it's almost like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here. You know, Hey, I'm here. Yeah. I've had,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, several incidences where you can hear a little

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<v Speaker 2>rock clacking. You know, no other way to describe the

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<v Speaker 2>sound besides something taking it and hitting it together. Not

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<v Speaker 2>an area where there's otters, you know, because the otter

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<v Speaker 2>will lay there and you know, break stuff on its

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<v Speaker 2>chest or I don't really hear if raccoon's doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, absolutely, something with opposable hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would agree. You said you found twists. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about the when they break a tree and

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<v Speaker 1>twist it correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, lots of twists an area. What do you think

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<v Speaker 2>that signifies. Well, you hear a lot of Native American

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<v Speaker 2>talk about how they've been trees and to mark trees

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<v Speaker 2>certain directions, you know, I know you can follow some

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<v Speaker 2>of it, and you know, sometimes you come upon structures.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you may come upon a blind you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's I take it as like a direction in the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would agree with that. And what other types

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<v Speaker 1>of structures have you found out in the forest.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the biggest ones I've ever found

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<v Speaker 2>I sent to you and I found out when we

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<v Speaker 2>was in Oklahoma just this past year on Christmas. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been a week in the mountains of Oklahoma. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And did you experience activity in Oklahoma?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Well, we had, it was we was there for

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<v Speaker 2>a week and late in the week, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>run recorder every night. I need to go back through it.

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<v Speaker 2>But late in the week, closer to Christmas or yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's Crossler. Christmas, we had no visitors, and

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<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden, some people decided they were

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<v Speaker 2>gonna come down. We was on the dead end of

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<v Speaker 2>the mountain, right off one of the sides, like a

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<v Speaker 2>big ravine fall off. Anyways, some people come pulling in

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<v Speaker 2>and as they're pulling in, they're backing in before they

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<v Speaker 2>ever get out. I hear a knot a loud knock,

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<v Speaker 2>wow wow, And I look over at my wife. She

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<v Speaker 2>looks me and on mys just get huge. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, you know did you hear that? She's like, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>My son's standing there and said did you hear that?

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<v Speaker 2>He said, yeah, Dad, I heard it. I'm like, do

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<v Speaker 2>you think that's them? You know, just out here messing

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<v Speaker 2>around Like I don't know. I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>long story short, I went and talked to him, and

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<v Speaker 2>he looked at me kind of crazy when I asked

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<v Speaker 2>him about Bigfoot. He was older, gentleman, and he and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, well, did you hear any wood knocks? He said,

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<v Speaker 2>what's that? And I kind of described it to me.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, nah, I didn't hear nothing like that, so

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<v Speaker 2>I know therefore what it was. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>something that was close by watching us, And when they

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<v Speaker 2>pulled in, it knocked, and then it backed out, it

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<v Speaker 2>knocked again, and then it was gone. Later that evening,

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<v Speaker 2>as it got closer to dark, I kept hearing a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of tapping noises like sound just down the hill

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<v Speaker 2>from us. But if anything coming to camp, nothing ever

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<v Speaker 2>messed with us. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And what other states have you done researching?

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<v Speaker 2>Primarily just Oklahoma Texas. I've been to Arkansas all around

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<v Speaker 2>Bogga Creek, but never any investigations out there. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you lived in Ohio did you experience anything

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<v Speaker 1>or was it only when you moved it to Texas

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<v Speaker 1>the activity unfolded throughout your life?

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<v Speaker 2>Now it was really primarily only in Texas, although I

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<v Speaker 2>hear about so much about Ohio. You know, I wish

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<v Speaker 2>I had to run into it then, but I was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot younger, so maybe it's better now. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And I've heard some terrifying bigfoot encounters from Texas

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<v Speaker 1>especially East Texas and primarily on Sasquatch chronicles. I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>some horrifying stories from my clog hunters and just people

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<v Speaker 1>out in the forest in general. Now, have you noticed

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that where the Sasquatch are different than in

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<v Speaker 1>other areas they're in Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say anything different because every encounter that I've had,

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<v Speaker 2>I've I've had a scary encounter, but nothing that rattled

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<v Speaker 2>me so bad that I was afraid to ever go back.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think anything from Pahoma to Texas is

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<v Speaker 2>about the same. I mean, I'm sure there's a different guy,

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<v Speaker 2>different squatches, different areas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, And from my conclusion for my theories and

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<v Speaker 1>my research, I feel like they're the same all across

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<v Speaker 1>the board, all across the world, because I hear a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people say they're only terrifying in Alaska and

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're dangerous there, But from the stories I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>here in the US, they kind of line up with

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<v Speaker 1>the stories I've heard in Alaska, especially in Oklahoma, the

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<v Speaker 1>Siege of Enobi and the East Texas stories, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>loggers being messed with in Washington State and the Sasquatch

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<v Speaker 1>tearing up the equipment, chasing loggers out of the out

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<v Speaker 1>of the forest.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think if you tick them off, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let you know it. And they're more there. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're more dangerous and huge forests where they're not as

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<v Speaker 1>used to just seeing people and running into them, opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to like, yeah, opposed areas like let's say Florida in

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<v Speaker 1>a suburb where there's forest or swamp, but still you've

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<v Speaker 1>got development all over the place. I think those sasquatch

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<v Speaker 1>are just they're used to just sitting there watching people

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<v Speaker 1>and it's an everyday sort of thing for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct. We are their TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, it's got to be the dumbest channel on

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<v Speaker 1>the planet. Now, So what else have you experienced? I

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<v Speaker 1>was going through other photos and it looks like you

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<v Speaker 1>found several tracks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there's an area over in Cold Springs, Texas that

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<v Speaker 2>I've went to with the wife in the past, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a pipeline area and it backs up. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all in the National forest. So there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of national forests. Sam Houston, So we was walking down

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<v Speaker 2>the popeline. There was maybe two three days after rain

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<v Speaker 2>that's come when I like to go, I can find tracks.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't always put a lot into tracks casting,

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<v Speaker 2>but it'll present a direction, you know, so or an

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<v Speaker 2>area that they may possibly even be in. So we

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<v Speaker 2>was out there and I think I sent you those

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of the tracks, and we was out there for

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<v Speaker 2>a good while. Walking around. This area makes a big loop,

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<v Speaker 2>or you can go further down, but we just was

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<v Speaker 2>making a loop. And we come back and it was

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<v Speaker 2>getting closer to dark time, and for some reason, every

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<v Speaker 2>now and in the woods, I picked up where I whistled.

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<v Speaker 2>Now everybody says you're not really supposed to whistle, Well

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<v Speaker 2>I did, and I do, and something whistled back to

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<v Speaker 2>me and us so loud that it scared us because

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<v Speaker 2>it's dark, we're out there where nobody's around, and we

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<v Speaker 2>was on a pipeline and there was you know, just trees,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's no camping areas where it comes from. And

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<v Speaker 2>it whistled so loud that it kind of shook me

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<v Speaker 2>and a wife was freaking out. We had a and

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<v Speaker 2>he's a Belgium mountain wall and he never reacted, he

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<v Speaker 2>never turned his head nothing, but it spooked us pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good because it's dark, and it was just like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's get out of here. It wasn't recording. I

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<v Speaker 2>only had a cell phone and that's when I took

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<v Speaker 2>a picture of the track. But that's just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>one area. Like I said, I've been doing this for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you think the dog would react to the whistle?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they would. Do you feel like there's

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<v Speaker 1>something supernatural about that infra sound? Like why do you

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<v Speaker 1>think the dog didn't react to the whistle?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I believe we all have an energy and that

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<v Speaker 2>energy could be read by animals very you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more than we would ever think of. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>possibly he felt the fear. Possibly he just was knowing that,

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<v Speaker 2>or it's in a you can't say it's in a

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<v Speaker 2>whistle sound that they wouldn't hear, because as they can

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<v Speaker 2>hear better than us. So I don't know, it is strange.

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<v Speaker 2>It's something that I still, you know, don't understand and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people don't understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, like a dog whistle, we can't really

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<v Speaker 1>hear it too well. And maybe the sasquatch no a

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<v Speaker 1>certain whistle at a certain frequency that coyotes can't pick

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<v Speaker 1>up and maybe the dogs can't pick up on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, that's that's strange. I've heard of stories

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<v Speaker 1>where these things are beating on the cabins and everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>terrifying inside the cabin. And they say, like the dogs

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<v Speaker 1>were asleep the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>They never woke up, never react. Yeah, it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>fear instilled in them, you know. And maybe that's why

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<v Speaker 2>they don't even react. They'd just rather lay there. Or

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, what's that the infrasound they put out? Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's like infrasound, so it causes them to be still

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<v Speaker 2>lock up in other words.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, some sort of strange hum that they produce. But

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<v Speaker 1>also I've noticed where the dogs will just take off

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<v Speaker 1>barking and running at something unknown. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>got their attention.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've heard that too. Yeah, that's what I always

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<v Speaker 2>worry about with my dog when I take him out

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<v Speaker 2>like you with Yaowie. And and I don't blame you

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<v Speaker 2>for leaving him at camp. You know what if something happens,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you hear about him hurting them. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go through. My dog is like

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<v Speaker 2>my child.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's risky leaving him at camp. But also I

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<v Speaker 1>know if I go deep in the woods at nighttime

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<v Speaker 1>and he sees something and he chases it, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>not be so good and he could get lost at nighttime.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be looking for a dog in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of a huge forest at.

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<v Speaker 2>Night, especially where you are, Miguel. You know you have

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<v Speaker 2>other stuff out there compared to what we have in Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if I run into the hogs, I know he's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to back down, and either of those hogs,

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<v Speaker 1>so it won't end well. Correct, But yeah, it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like again they were watching you when they whistled, And

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with what you said, like we're their entertainment,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know I have I've always pictured it

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<v Speaker 1>like these things are just watching us and we're just

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<v Speaker 1>some weird TV show to them, maybe maybe like Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>Springer or something. They're like, look at look at the humans.

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<v Speaker 1>Look what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Well, you know, just the same reason

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<v Speaker 2>they would go to someone's window and look through it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they're watching why, you know, do they want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk? Do they are they want to eat you?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so, but I think more or less,

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<v Speaker 2>it's entertainment to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's why a lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 1>see them, because they've already seen you. And I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of researchers talk about these things. Know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the woods and a lot of hunters take

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<v Speaker 1>the same like they park in the same spot, they

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<v Speaker 1>take the same trails and they go They all go

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<v Speaker 1>in the same way, even if they're not hunting the

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<v Speaker 1>same spots. They all start from the same areas. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was Cliff Berrickman I was talking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's said they've noticed people have encounters when they

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<v Speaker 1>switch things up, like coming in from the back, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's when someone has an experience doing something that they

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<v Speaker 1>normally wouldn't do.

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<v Speaker 2>And that happened to me. Correct. I believe that because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we all get used to doing the same

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<v Speaker 2>repetitive things over and over and over. Why, because it's comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>When you go to an uncomfortable spot, Like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>things can happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're creatures of habit and maybe the sasquatch aren't,

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<v Speaker 1>like they always do something different.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of wonder that do they walk one certain trail,

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<v Speaker 2>do they move you know, I'm sure they kind of

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<v Speaker 2>go around everywhere they want to, you know, that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, their their land is everywhere, so they

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<v Speaker 2>have no boundaries.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would say that they're always switching things up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've noticed that with like really big bucks. I've

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<v Speaker 1>messed up a few hunts and I just hoped myself, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that buck comes right back out too that field. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>they never do, and I watched the trail cameras and

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<v Speaker 1>they never show back up, and I'm like, man, that

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<v Speaker 1>was like a once in a lifetime shot, and I

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<v Speaker 1>blew it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've messed up one. Two Miguel. It sounded like to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was the buck fever, and it sounded

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<v Speaker 2>like my heart was just gonna come out of my chest.

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<v Speaker 2>I swear I opened my mouth and that thing looked

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<v Speaker 2>up and was gone. Yeah. So yeah, I've been there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, And I've noticed the sasquatch. They like to

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<v Speaker 1>hang out in areas where you see big bucks or

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of game. So if you're in a good

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<v Speaker 1>area for hunting, it could be a good spot for sasquatch.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct. However, in the same Houston National Forest, there's some

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<v Speaker 2>areas that we're in hunter's camp slot and we talked

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<v Speaker 2>to hunters and a lot of them has said that

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like a lot of the deer population out

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<v Speaker 2>there has dwindled down significant. So we still hear them

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<v Speaker 2>out there. They're still there. We still see deer. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>We're not out there every day to see them, but

416
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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they're there. Yeah.

417
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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I'm seeing and hearing the same thing from local

418
00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:17.759
<v Speaker 1>hunters here in this area that just nobody's seeing deer.

419
00:24:17.799 --> 00:24:20.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's obviously like dose and small bucks, but

420
00:24:20.599 --> 00:24:23.240
<v Speaker 1>as far as like the big deer herds like there

421
00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:25.079
<v Speaker 1>used to be in the big bucks, like we're just

422
00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:27.839
<v Speaker 1>not seeing them, or even the sign like big rubs

423
00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:30.720
<v Speaker 1>on trees and just kind of disappeared. I wonder if

424
00:24:31.480 --> 00:24:36.160
<v Speaker 1>there's more cryptids nowadays and more deer getting eaten well.

425
00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:41.279
<v Speaker 2>Being in the field that I'm in, I've cleared a

426
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<v Speaker 2>lot of land and that I would say, the construction

427
00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:48.640
<v Speaker 2>is huge everywhere, is growing everywhere, and I think that

428
00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:52.759
<v Speaker 2>has a big impact on all the infrastructure for them

429
00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:57.160
<v Speaker 2>for us, you know, so they are moving in different areas,

430
00:24:57.519 --> 00:25:02.039
<v Speaker 2>being pushed into different areas, just like any other wildlife. Yeah,

431
00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I agree, with that as well.

432
00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I think there's many factors as to white people aren't

433
00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:10.319
<v Speaker 1>seeing deer, even the different sicknesses or illnesses that the

434
00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:11.880
<v Speaker 1>deer are getting to so.

435
00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Much more now that it's actually getting ridiculous, you know,

436
00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:19.759
<v Speaker 2>with the with the deer. You know, you see them

437
00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:23.200
<v Speaker 2>all the time, videos, maybe foaming out the mouth, you know,

438
00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:27.119
<v Speaker 2>laying down, kicking around, acting kind of crazy. You know,

439
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:29.799
<v Speaker 2>you got ticks now that will get all over them.

440
00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:33.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's just, uh, it's a very weird times

441
00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:34.880
<v Speaker 2>in this world.

442
00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:39.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely, So what else have you experienced? What

443
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<v Speaker 1>else have you found in your research and your time

444
00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:43.319
<v Speaker 1>out in the woods.

445
00:25:43.640 --> 00:25:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's another time that I'd definitely like to talk about.

446
00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Being in the oil field. I was able to cut

447
00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:57.880
<v Speaker 2>the pipeline across Sam Houston National Forces Now started off

448
00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Lake conro in one of the all the way across

449
00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:05.759
<v Speaker 2>the forest ten miles and so when we was out

450
00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:08.319
<v Speaker 2>there cutting, you know, we got to cut up so

451
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:12.160
<v Speaker 2>many two miles a day minimal. And as we're cutting

452
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:16.359
<v Speaker 2>through the area, we come upon Kelly's Pond. And from

453
00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:20.680
<v Speaker 2>behind Kelly's Pond, I'd seen a lot of breaks, you know,

454
00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:26.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, twists, just from Tracherous View, so I know

455
00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:29.240
<v Speaker 2>that that's a really good area. I haven't done too

456
00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:33.079
<v Speaker 2>much investigations back in there because I have so many areas.

457
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:35.799
<v Speaker 2>But as I was going down the pipeline a little

458
00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:43.640
<v Speaker 2>closer in towards an area, Stubblefield area, and there's a

459
00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:45.960
<v Speaker 2>road that cuts across there, and as we get closer

460
00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:49.880
<v Speaker 2>to the road, there's a big wet spot. And in

461
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:52.880
<v Speaker 2>this wet spot, I'm just I'm driving and I'm constantly

462
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:57.599
<v Speaker 2>looking because just what I do. And I've seen a

463
00:26:57.599 --> 00:27:01.359
<v Speaker 2>bunch of prints in the water and it was a

464
00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:04.920
<v Speaker 2>semi dry puddle, and so I got out and I

465
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:07.920
<v Speaker 2>started looking and I was like, oh my god, I

466
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:10.039
<v Speaker 2>got to come back and cast some of these. It

467
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:13.039
<v Speaker 2>was big prints and there were small prints, and it

468
00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:17.160
<v Speaker 2>was all around and it looked like something big had

469
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:19.440
<v Speaker 2>stood there. And kind of watched the kids play in

470
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:22.640
<v Speaker 2>the water. Now, being out in the middle of nothing,

471
00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:26.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't see someone just pulling up off a pipeline

472
00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:28.960
<v Speaker 2>letting their kids get out and play around in the

473
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:32.839
<v Speaker 2>puddle that's muddy in bare feet, you know, not this

474
00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:35.200
<v Speaker 2>day and age. Not. I mean, I'm from the country,

475
00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:40.640
<v Speaker 2>but not everybody does that. So I had went on

476
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.200
<v Speaker 2>and later that day, because I had got off of work,

477
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:47.519
<v Speaker 2>I contacted my wife. I contacted another friend of mine

478
00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:50.240
<v Speaker 2>maybe two three people sent the pictures to him and

479
00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:52.960
<v Speaker 2>said I got to go back and cast them. So

480
00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:55.319
<v Speaker 2>that is one of the castings that I did send

481
00:27:55.400 --> 00:27:58.160
<v Speaker 2>you where I found all the prints and it turned

482
00:27:58.160 --> 00:28:02.119
<v Speaker 2>out pretty good. And anyway, so a couple of days

483
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:05.799
<v Speaker 2>go by and we're in Richards, Texas. Now this is

484
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:10.680
<v Speaker 2>that I found kind of strange and very interesting. So

485
00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:13.559
<v Speaker 2>it is a turned into a big power line easement

486
00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:18.079
<v Speaker 2>that was running with the pipeline. And now I hear

487
00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:21.839
<v Speaker 2>a lot about that as being a traveled thoroughfare, so

488
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:26.359
<v Speaker 2>I paid a lot of attention. And as I'm going

489
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:30.680
<v Speaker 2>down through there, cutting in a big brushog, we come

490
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:34.519
<v Speaker 2>upon some white spots in the grass. We stop get

491
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:37.200
<v Speaker 2>out to investigate because I got guys that are in

492
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:41.160
<v Speaker 2>front of me on weed eaters cutting around stuff, and

493
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:43.319
<v Speaker 2>they come behind me and everything I missed they take

494
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:47.960
<v Speaker 2>care of anyways, and ended up being some pig skulls,

495
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:51.000
<v Speaker 2>some very big pig skulls. I didn't send you the pictures,

496
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:54.960
<v Speaker 2>but I have them. And what we found next to them,

497
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:59.400
<v Speaker 2>what it looked like they was turned inside out. The

498
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:03.640
<v Speaker 2>hide was pulled off, laid on the ground, and the

499
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:06.480
<v Speaker 2>skulls was right there next to them, and these things

500
00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:09.039
<v Speaker 2>was pit clean. There was you know, like maybe one

501
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:12.599
<v Speaker 2>or two little hairs and some meat on the skull. Now,

502
00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:15.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if a hunter is gonna sit there

503
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.119
<v Speaker 2>and take that kind of time and do that. Now

504
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:21.079
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna a hunter, it may you know, go ahead

505
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:24.039
<v Speaker 2>and gut it and leave everything there and then take

506
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:28.480
<v Speaker 2>the hog down, you know, and finish processing it. So

507
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:31.440
<v Speaker 2>I found it really strange. I actually have the skull

508
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:35.599
<v Speaker 2>here at my house with my guys running around with

509
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:38.119
<v Speaker 2>it on the front of the side beside buggy the

510
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:40.839
<v Speaker 2>whole time we was cutting the rest of the popeline.

511
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:44.359
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like it was like a hunting area

512
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:45.279
<v Speaker 1>for the sasquatch.

513
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.759
<v Speaker 2>Well that's what I was gonna get to, uh, definitely.

514
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:52.119
<v Speaker 2>So because as we come out out of that area

515
00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:56.559
<v Speaker 2>to cross over a road, we noticed going down through

516
00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:00.720
<v Speaker 2>there if we come upon a ranch, and at beginning

517
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:02.960
<v Speaker 2>of this ranch on this driveway, the guy had a

518
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:08.319
<v Speaker 2>big shadow figure of sasquatch. So maybe he has some

519
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:13.000
<v Speaker 2>you know knowledge, maybe he knows something's there. Because it

520
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:17.200
<v Speaker 2>is bottom lands. Big Creek run right through it, so

521
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:20.119
<v Speaker 2>I could see it being a very good area. It

522
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:23.319
<v Speaker 2>was his hunt and least also I send deer feeders

523
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:25.799
<v Speaker 2>out there, so very promising.

524
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've always said the sasquatch control of the hog population.

525
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they would. Those things breed like rabbits,

526
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:38.079
<v Speaker 1>and I here in Texas they're kind of getting out.

527
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:41.240
<v Speaker 2>Of control there. Correct, correct, Yes, they are. I think

528
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:43.039
<v Speaker 2>they can have you know, up to a dozen at

529
00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:45.799
<v Speaker 2>a time, it's crazy. And they can mate you know,

530
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.279
<v Speaker 2>several times a year, kind of like rabbits.

531
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that would be an excellent food source for

532
00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:56.119
<v Speaker 1>the squatch. And I've also noticed that too. All these

533
00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:59.240
<v Speaker 1>areas that have hogs have sasquatch activity.

534
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean who doesn't like bacon? I do every

535
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:07.400
<v Speaker 2>morning almost Yeah, yeah, same here.

536
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>And if I was out in the woods trying to survive,

537
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:14.240
<v Speaker 1>I'd definitely be on my on my hit list would

538
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:19.400
<v Speaker 1>be whitetail hogs, turkeys, and yeah, there's plenty of that

539
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:22.759
<v Speaker 1>in Texas. Now, do you guys have exotic game right,

540
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:25.519
<v Speaker 1>things that have gotten out of like the game ranches?

541
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:28.519
<v Speaker 2>Do you? Correct? In the areas, I think it's more

542
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:32.559
<v Speaker 2>South Texas compared to where I'm at. But yes, there

543
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:37.039
<v Speaker 2>has been I know guys even it was raising wolves

544
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:41.880
<v Speaker 2>out here, like a hybrid wolf, and some storms had

545
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:44.359
<v Speaker 2>come in, you know, tree fell across the fence and

546
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:48.000
<v Speaker 2>they got out. There's reports of them, I don't know,

547
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:51.920
<v Speaker 2>several years ago, but haven't heard of anything lately, so

548
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:57.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean anything more than that exotics? She really besides

549
00:31:57.279 --> 00:31:59.359
<v Speaker 2>the girafte that got loose down here.

550
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's wild. What else has happened?

551
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:07.960
<v Speaker 2>All right? Well, there's an area that we go to

552
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:11.200
<v Speaker 2>in the same Houston National Forest. I'm not going to

553
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:14.200
<v Speaker 2>give the name. We call it Monkey Pond, and for

554
00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:18.119
<v Speaker 2>good reason, it's actually a West Gurmer area from what

555
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:21.519
<v Speaker 2>I understand, used to be one of his hot spots.

556
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I've tried to contact him to actually acknowledge that, to

557
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:32.599
<v Speaker 2>find out, but he hasn't accepted my request. So, but

558
00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:37.200
<v Speaker 2>we went to this area, if we've been there several

559
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:39.680
<v Speaker 2>several times. I went out there with a buddy of mine,

560
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Kevin Norad, and went out there with my wife

561
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:47.000
<v Speaker 2>and we was out on a big group thing again

562
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:49.960
<v Speaker 2>and some of the guys had went to one side

563
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:53.039
<v Speaker 2>and meet Kevin and my wife. We went on down

564
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:56.880
<v Speaker 2>to another area. We were setting closer to a I say,

565
00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:59.920
<v Speaker 2>like a little creek and there's lots of trees around it.

566
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:03.319
<v Speaker 2>He had a shotgun with him and which I don't

567
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:07.799
<v Speaker 2>always carry firearms, but just for protection. He had a

568
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:11.160
<v Speaker 2>little game caller, you know, one of those audio game callers,

569
00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:15.119
<v Speaker 2>kind of like what you have. And we were sitting

570
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:17.559
<v Speaker 2>there and he said, well, I'm gonna go ahead and

571
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:21.559
<v Speaker 2>let's play the hog in distress basically like you know,

572
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:25.519
<v Speaker 2>hogs being killed. So we played it once or twice.

573
00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Really nothing happened, and we were sitting there and I

574
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.960
<v Speaker 2>think I made a call and we decided to go

575
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:35.799
<v Speaker 2>ahead and play his call again. And when we did,

576
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:41.119
<v Speaker 2>there was a tree that come crashing down boom, and

577
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:43.559
<v Speaker 2>I just looked at him. We kind of looked at

578
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:46.519
<v Speaker 2>one another, put our backs against this big pine tree.

579
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:48.680
<v Speaker 2>You know. We could just sit there and just look

580
00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:51.039
<v Speaker 2>at one another, shake our heads. We didn't really think

581
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:55.200
<v Speaker 2>nothing of it. But as time passed, it was like

582
00:33:56.160 --> 00:34:00.039
<v Speaker 2>another tree fell, and later on another one, and the

583
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.400
<v Speaker 2>only thing we could think of, or me I could

584
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:05.720
<v Speaker 2>think of, is rotten trees in the area. And it

585
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:08.599
<v Speaker 2>was around us because we was making he was making

586
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:12.159
<v Speaker 2>them calls, and there was letting us know it was there.

587
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:14.920
<v Speaker 2>It was pushing down trees left and right like crazy.

588
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:19.079
<v Speaker 2>And why none of us really snapped what was going on,

589
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:22.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But another part of the group, with

590
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:27.280
<v Speaker 2>Shane in them further off, they actually, I believe, caught

591
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:30.000
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of flear. They said they had a

592
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:32.159
<v Speaker 2>little bit of action going on. I think they called

593
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:33.400
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of audio that night.

594
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Also, Yeah, that sounds like classic Bigfoot activity. And they

595
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:41.880
<v Speaker 1>were definitely being territorial and reacting to the vocalizations that

596
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:46.360
<v Speaker 1>you guys played, and your mind will instantly gravitate towards Oh,

597
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:50.039
<v Speaker 1>that must be rotten trees, or you try to explain

598
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>it in your mind, But after you experienced more than one,

599
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:57.079
<v Speaker 1>you know that's not a coincidence anymore, especially if there's

600
00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:00.880
<v Speaker 1>not strong winds and it didn't just rain or freeze.

601
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, was it wendy at all when that happened.

602
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:07.559
<v Speaker 2>It was dead still that night. Yeah. See that says

603
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:12.440
<v Speaker 2>a lot, you know, along along with another tree incident

604
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:16.199
<v Speaker 2>that I wanted to talk about. I had a buddy mine,

605
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:22.039
<v Speaker 2>boyd Simms, he was I want to say suicidal put

606
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:26.639
<v Speaker 2>it lightly, and he decided to because he had run off.

607
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:29.559
<v Speaker 2>His mom had died, He got run off from his family.

608
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:34.840
<v Speaker 2>He was going through some things, some withdrawals. So my

609
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:37.519
<v Speaker 2>buddy took and had kind of left him out there

610
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:44.000
<v Speaker 2>where we call monkey pawn. He had talked about trying

611
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:47.199
<v Speaker 2>to shoot one, you know, several years ago. He was

612
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:50.239
<v Speaker 2>just trying to have some experiences. I don't even know

613
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:52.960
<v Speaker 2>if he had a gun with him then, but he

614
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:55.360
<v Speaker 2>had been out there this dead heat of summer. He

615
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:57.880
<v Speaker 2>had been out there for a week or so, and

616
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I was showing up in my ice talking to him,

617
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:04.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, especially after I heard what was going on,

618
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:08.079
<v Speaker 2>and me and the wife decided we're going to come

619
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:10.760
<v Speaker 2>out there one night, and I was going to cook burgers.

620
00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:14.519
<v Speaker 2>It's dark, you know, because I'm doing it after work.

621
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:18.000
<v Speaker 2>So I cook some little burgers on the grill. We're

622
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:22.280
<v Speaker 2>all sitting there and we're talking and bull crapping, and

623
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:24.119
<v Speaker 2>he's looking at me and I'm looking at him and

624
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:27.119
<v Speaker 2>I said, did you hear that? He's like, what are

625
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:31.000
<v Speaker 2>you hearing? I said, it sounds really to me like

626
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:34.639
<v Speaker 2>a samurai chatter. But they're going off with the frogs

627
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:38.400
<v Speaker 2>he said, I'm hearing it. I said, I don't know,

628
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:41.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe we're just crazy. So we just kind of laughed off.

629
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:45.320
<v Speaker 2>He says, I got a recorder going on. But what

630
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:47.360
<v Speaker 2>I need to back up and tell you before I

631
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:51.800
<v Speaker 2>jumped to it is that the tree incident. So my buddy,

632
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Kevin and Becky was up there with him at the

633
00:36:56.519 --> 00:37:00.840
<v Speaker 2>very same spot and there was a storm and through there.

634
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:03.639
<v Speaker 2>So my buddy had jumped in the truck with him

635
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:06.199
<v Speaker 2>and they're all sitting in the truck and they're facing

636
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:10.440
<v Speaker 2>this pond, and all of a sudden they heard a

637
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:15.639
<v Speaker 2>loud crash and directly behind their truck was a huge

638
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:19.840
<v Speaker 2>oak tree that had fell down. Massive it would come

639
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:23.920
<v Speaker 2>within inches of hitting the truck. It could have if

640
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:27.639
<v Speaker 2>the tailgate was down, it would have hit it. So

641
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.360
<v Speaker 2>they had to cut their way out. And THEYD called

642
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:32.599
<v Speaker 2>me about it for help, but I was I was working.

643
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:36.400
<v Speaker 2>But anyways, back to what was going on. We had

644
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:40.800
<v Speaker 2>finished cooking and we were sitting there. We heard the

645
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 2>noiseness and so as we're hearing that, I hear a holler.

646
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:51.639
<v Speaker 2>Now it sounded more like a greyhound owl, a gray

647
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I want to say. Uh. Anyways, it sounded like an owl,

648
00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:02.360
<v Speaker 2>but the owl at the end hould It's the first

649
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:06.280
<v Speaker 2>time ever heard it. Yeah, it was crazy. I sent

650
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:09.519
<v Speaker 2>you something similar from the same area. Mm hmm.

651
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:12.360
<v Speaker 1>It held like a like a canine towards the end.

652
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, at first it was, and then it howled. It's

653
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:19.079
<v Speaker 2>crazy telling people that.

654
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:23.480
<v Speaker 1>But yes, the one, the one I heard, it was

655
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:25.639
<v Speaker 1>like a gray horned owl and they were hooting back

656
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:28.800
<v Speaker 1>and forth across the rivers or across the river, and

657
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:34.239
<v Speaker 1>it it hooted and then it barked like a rottweiler.

658
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:34.840
<v Speaker 2>No joke.

659
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:37.519
<v Speaker 1>It came from that owl, and I've never heard anything

660
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:39.440
<v Speaker 1>like that. I was the one thing I could think

661
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:41.840
<v Speaker 1>was that that had a been sasquatch. I don't know,

662
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:45.440
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. It sounded like a rotweiler.

663
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:52.159
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. Well it let us know basically that. Well,

664
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:56.400
<v Speaker 2>it did a little how after that, it let us

665
00:38:56.440 --> 00:39:00.280
<v Speaker 2>know it's there. Clearly it was breaking limbs and could

666
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:05.039
<v Speaker 2>hear it coming towards us. So we're in pitch pitch dark,

667
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:09.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, even though there was very little moonlight, it's

668
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:12.239
<v Speaker 2>really dark and thick out there. So I pulled my

669
00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:16.159
<v Speaker 2>wife over behind me because she was immediately already on edge,

670
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:21.039
<v Speaker 2>my buddy boy standing right next to me, and it

671
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:25.039
<v Speaker 2>kept coming, making noise the whole way, and then as

672
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:29.880
<v Speaker 2>it got closer, the tree moved. Now that we were

673
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:33.719
<v Speaker 2>talking about a massive, massive oak tree, and this thing

674
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:36.719
<v Speaker 2>had been laid down for a week, and all of

675
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:41.519
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, the whole tree went downwards, and we all

676
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:43.719
<v Speaker 2>freaked out, Oh my god, you know, what the hell?

677
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:48.840
<v Speaker 2>And it continued doing some breaks, and we put a

678
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:52.639
<v Speaker 2>light over there. We couldn't see anything. Everything we was

679
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:56.280
<v Speaker 2>trying to see, we could not see anything. We were

680
00:39:56.320 --> 00:40:01.000
<v Speaker 2>still on edge. And for some reason, because I guess

681
00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:03.639
<v Speaker 2>we was just freaking out, I pulled out my car keys.

682
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:07.239
<v Speaker 2>My truck was parked up almost next to the tree,

683
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:11.280
<v Speaker 2>and I hit my alarm button and all I did

684
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:15.840
<v Speaker 2>was like a flash of lights and from them everything ceased.

685
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Now I kind of regret that because that was a

686
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:25.480
<v Speaker 2>pretty close encounter. Did we see anything, No, we heard

687
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:28.159
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of stuff. Do we think we know what

688
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:31.800
<v Speaker 2>it was? Yeah? What else can move a tree like that,

689
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:36.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, especially a large large oak tree, and move

690
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:38.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, something upwards over one thousand pounds or at

691
00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:41.960
<v Speaker 2>least a thousand pounds easily. No human would have stepped

692
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:44.159
<v Speaker 2>on it and moved it and then after laying there

693
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:50.559
<v Speaker 2>for a week, So it was definitely terrifying, scared us.

694
00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:53.480
<v Speaker 2>My wife would not go back to that spot. We went,

695
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:57.280
<v Speaker 2>didn't actually go back for at least a year, and

696
00:40:57.559 --> 00:40:58.920
<v Speaker 2>we've been back in there since.

697
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have to remember that in case things get

698
00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:07.199
<v Speaker 1>really hairy to hit the car alarm.

699
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:10.039
<v Speaker 2>It kind of upsessed me now that I did it.

700
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:13.440
<v Speaker 2>I wish I feel like everything would have went a

701
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:18.679
<v Speaker 2>little longer. But I ended up telling my buddy Stephen

702
00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Kitchens about it, and since that was his cousin boyd,

703
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:27.159
<v Speaker 2>he decided he wanted to come out there and have

704
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:30.800
<v Speaker 2>a little experience with us. Excuse me.

705
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So in Texas, there's a lot of pine trees.

706
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yes, a lot of pine trees, more pines and oaks.

707
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

708
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's prime habitat for the Sasquatch. And it's the

709
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:46.840
<v Speaker 1>same way here in Missouri. Like there's a ton of oaks.

710
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:51.280
<v Speaker 1>But I've noticed a lot of Sasquatch activity is where

711
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>there's pine thickets at and if you go a lot

712
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:56.480
<v Speaker 1>of mors. Yeah, like up north, they got a lot

713
00:41:56.559 --> 00:41:59.360
<v Speaker 1>of cear trees, a lot of spruce trees, and the

714
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:01.280
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch love that stuff.

715
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Correct, especially the old growth, and that's primarily in this

716
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:08.079
<v Speaker 2>pond is in a very old growth area.

717
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:10.920
<v Speaker 1>M I think they like to hide in the conn

718
00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:15.920
<v Speaker 1>for trees. They don't lose their needles when winter comes.

719
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:18.719
<v Speaker 1>They stay thick. And even in the daytime when you

720
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:21.159
<v Speaker 1>look into there, it's just it looks dark. You can't

721
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:22.199
<v Speaker 1>really see into it.

722
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:27.039
<v Speaker 2>Correct. And you know, the needles they provide a good bed.

723
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:30.239
<v Speaker 2>I also hear about them, you know, eating I guess

724
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:33.280
<v Speaker 2>off the pine cones, you know, kind of like a squirrel.

725
00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:35.679
<v Speaker 2>I guess there's nutrients in them. I have no idea.

726
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:41.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, for sure, And I feel like they love it.

727
00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:44.119
<v Speaker 1>So if you cut down the pine thickets, you might

728
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.679
<v Speaker 1>start experiencing sasquatch activity because it might take.

729
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Them off correct. Correct.

730
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:54.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, so that big tree fell when you said

731
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:56.360
<v Speaker 1>if the tailgate would have been down, it would have

732
00:42:56.440 --> 00:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>hit the truck. Can you imagine if it did land

733
00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:00.440
<v Speaker 1>on the truck doing.

734
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:04.239
<v Speaker 2>All man It shook them pretty good. They were actually

735
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:08.800
<v Speaker 2>rattled by the whole experience enough. I think called like, hey,

736
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:11.320
<v Speaker 2>we need help getting out of here, because we're on

737
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:13.519
<v Speaker 2>this trail by the pond, and there's one way in,

738
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:16.039
<v Speaker 2>one way out unless you got a really good food

739
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:20.400
<v Speaker 2>drive and don't mind scratchers. Oh yeah, for sure.

740
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:23.440
<v Speaker 1>That's a big fear of mine to drive down a

741
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:27.000
<v Speaker 1>forest service road, deep deep in the woods and these

742
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:29.519
<v Speaker 1>things push over huge trees in front of your vehicle

743
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:31.800
<v Speaker 1>and behind your vehicle, especially if you don't have a chainsaw.

744
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:36.119
<v Speaker 1>Correct trapped, Yeah, you would be trapped. You'd have to

745
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:41.599
<v Speaker 1>go on foot. And if that happened at nighttime, scary.

746
00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. I mean, I know you go out at night,

747
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:48.360
<v Speaker 2>you do go by yourself sometimes, and uh, I haven't

748
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:50.840
<v Speaker 2>done it a whole lot. Every time it seems like

749
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:55.119
<v Speaker 2>I try to, something happens, work calls, you know, different things.

750
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:58.559
<v Speaker 2>So I'll tell you what. Definitely got to have some

751
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:01.119
<v Speaker 2>big balls excuse me to go out in the forest

752
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:04.440
<v Speaker 2>at night, especially when you know these things are out there.

753
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:07.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure. I prefer to go out during

754
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:10.800
<v Speaker 1>the day. I mean, a lot of people say sasquatch

755
00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:13.639
<v Speaker 1>is more active at nighttime and you're more likely to

756
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:16.519
<v Speaker 1>see one. I disagree. All my encounters were during the day,

757
00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:18.599
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the day. All the people I've interviewed

758
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I'd say ninety five percent of the people I interview

759
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:24.320
<v Speaker 1>have a daytime sighting, so I feel like you got

760
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:27.519
<v Speaker 1>a better chance at seeing them during daylight hours. You

761
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:30.320
<v Speaker 1>can't see nothing at night, and if things go south,

762
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:32.559
<v Speaker 1>you're in the dark.

763
00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:36.519
<v Speaker 2>I'd rather be during the daylight, especially when it goes south,

764
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:38.199
<v Speaker 2>for sure. Yeah.

765
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:40.639
<v Speaker 1>I want to be able to see it, like correct,

766
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:44.519
<v Speaker 1>see details, not just I don't know, experience something in

767
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:47.039
<v Speaker 1>the darkness and be like, oh, I heard something big.

768
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I think it was a sasquatch. I'm not really sure which.

769
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:53.119
<v Speaker 1>There are those encounters on my channel where it was

770
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:55.199
<v Speaker 1>a full moon or a bright moon and you can

771
00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:59.039
<v Speaker 1>see outside, and I know you've experienced it too. When

772
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:01.239
<v Speaker 1>the moon's out, it's like somebody's got a light bulb

773
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:03.119
<v Speaker 1>on outside. You can see pretty good.

774
00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Correct, And you know, especially right now, whether it be

775
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.639
<v Speaker 2>in dead heat or the summer, it's hard to go

776
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:13.639
<v Speaker 2>out during the day because it's so hot. I'm lucky

777
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:16.119
<v Speaker 2>with my job, you know, I'm out in it a lot,

778
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:18.599
<v Speaker 2>so I kind of, you know, stay used to it.

779
00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I will move around during the day, I will go

780
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:25.000
<v Speaker 2>out during day, but most of my signings will encounters

781
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:27.280
<v Speaker 2>have been at night. I've never had a signing.

782
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:33.559
<v Speaker 1>M Yeah, so you've had more experiences at night time, yes, okay, Yeah,

783
00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:35.320
<v Speaker 1>I've heard a lot of people say that. For me,

784
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:40.440
<v Speaker 1>it's the opposite. But I don't discount people's experiences. And

785
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean most animals are more active at night, whether

786
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:46.840
<v Speaker 1>it's a deer, I mean, all wildlife, so it totally

787
00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:49.840
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. But yeah, going out right now during the night,

788
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:55.239
<v Speaker 1>it's sketchy with with all the tics and snakes coming

789
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:58.320
<v Speaker 1>out at night. You just can't see. And I'm just like,

790
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:01.119
<v Speaker 1>oh man, that's what I have. To get a big

791
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:03.400
<v Speaker 1>tick on me somewhere and me have no idea till

792
00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the next day.

793
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:06.639
<v Speaker 2>I've had to tick on me and had no idea

794
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:08.519
<v Speaker 2>to the next day. I had to pull one on

795
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:10.920
<v Speaker 2>my belly button, so I fully concur.

796
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:14.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah before it, I mean it wouldn't bother me. Like, yeah,

797
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I've always hated ticks, but now with all these tick

798
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:19.239
<v Speaker 1>diseases and people going to the hospital, I'm just like

799
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:20.679
<v Speaker 1>really leary about it.

800
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:23.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I like to eat my steak. I like to

801
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:26.239
<v Speaker 2>eat my meat, so I would rather not get bit

802
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:28.079
<v Speaker 2>by tick right now. Yeah.

803
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Somebody asked me in the comments, do you think the

804
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:34.840
<v Speaker 1>lime disease alpha gal would affect the sasquatch, and can

805
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:37.159
<v Speaker 1>they get it? I said, probably not. I mean I

806
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.519
<v Speaker 1>feel like they're immune to it. But at the same time,

807
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:43.960
<v Speaker 1>dogs can get lime disease, so maybe if they're human, like,

808
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they can get lime disease, but I feel

809
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:50.599
<v Speaker 1>like their immune system is much more superior than ours.

810
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Like they can eat an animal that's been rotten for

811
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:55.960
<v Speaker 1>like two weeks and not have an issue with it.

812
00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:59.119
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I fully believe that too. I mean, their gut

813
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:03.039
<v Speaker 2>just got to be you know, still compared to ours.

814
00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's gotta be like different enzymes in there that

815
00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:09.559
<v Speaker 1>fight off bacteria to where ours, like we would die

816
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:10.480
<v Speaker 1>if we ate something like that.

817
00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, just like a dog. You know, a dog can

818
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:17.960
<v Speaker 2>eat certain foods, a dog can have dirt hair and

819
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:20.239
<v Speaker 2>they slavitate enough you know, it gets it all out.

820
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:23.559
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's probably the same thing swatch. Mm hmm.

821
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:25.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I agree.

822
00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Let's see, you're fine if you gotta, if you got

823
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:34.320
<v Speaker 1>a cop to, you can hit the little microphone button.

824
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:36.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you can see it, yeah, down

825
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:38.880
<v Speaker 1>there where, I don't know if you can see it.

826
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:42.000
<v Speaker 2>No, I can't see it. Yeah, I can meet you though.

827
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm good. I have allergies, so.

828
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:51.960
<v Speaker 1>It's all right, doesn't bother me. Let's see what else

829
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:55.079
<v Speaker 1>have you experienced. It seems like most of the things

830
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:59.119
<v Speaker 1>you've experienced are around the sam Houston area. And what

831
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:01.480
<v Speaker 1>was the lake that you mentioned earlier?

832
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, we call it Monkey Pond. No, the other lake.

833
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:07.920
<v Speaker 1>It started with the sea, Oh Lake Conra, Yes, Andre,

834
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I've had people talk about that lake on my channel.

835
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:13.960
<v Speaker 1>The Sabine River, Conra Lake and sam Houston National Forest

836
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:17.559
<v Speaker 1>that seems to be really good areas for Sasquattra activity.

837
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, the Sabine River is out in what area

838
00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:28.639
<v Speaker 2>is that called? I just hid on earlier, But anyways,

839
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:31.320
<v Speaker 2>it's out in another area. We do go out there

840
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:34.960
<v Speaker 2>from time to time, but primarily because that's further away,

841
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:38.159
<v Speaker 2>I go a little closer to the house. Sam Houston

842
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:41.280
<v Speaker 2>has never let me down, so that's where you know,

843
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:45.400
<v Speaker 2>it's just basically across the street from me there's National Forest.

844
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Texas is absolutely huge. They say Missouri is the

845
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:55.079
<v Speaker 1>size of Germany, so I can't imagine how big Texas is.

846
00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, I know, for me to go from my house

847
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:02.320
<v Speaker 2>to the border takes around five hours, and that's that's

848
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:06.920
<v Speaker 2>close to Mexico. So you know, I can leave from here.

849
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.039
<v Speaker 2>In a couple wires, I could be in Arkansas, you know,

850
00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:12.400
<v Speaker 2>So a couple wires, I could be up there to you.

851
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:14.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, absolutely.

852
00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I've heard stories where Border Border Patrol agents have ran

853
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:24.400
<v Speaker 1>into the Sasquatch and apparently they got like squads down

854
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:28.519
<v Speaker 1>there where they eliminate cryptids. I've personally spoke to somebody

855
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:31.559
<v Speaker 1>who was really credible. I can't say who it is,

856
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:33.360
<v Speaker 1>but he said he used to work for that team,

857
00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:36.920
<v Speaker 1>and he told me that they would when they'd run

858
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:40.840
<v Speaker 1>into these cryptids, that they would in the legs first,

859
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:43.000
<v Speaker 1>in the knee caps. He said, you can't hit them

860
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.679
<v Speaker 1>here because you got to shoot them in the legs first,

861
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:48.119
<v Speaker 1>the kneecaps and then one.

862
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:51.559
<v Speaker 2>Here are moving so fast, that's how yeah down?

863
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:52.239
<v Speaker 1>What do you?

864
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? What do you? Explained?

865
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Was they have so much muscle and cartilage in their

866
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:59.079
<v Speaker 1>legs that when you when you put one in there,

867
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:01.519
<v Speaker 1>it really slows down.

868
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:05.760
<v Speaker 2>I could understand that. Yes, yeah, it's crazy as it sounds.

869
00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:11.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, go for the lugs first. Yeah, Okay, what else

870
00:50:11.639 --> 00:50:12.559
<v Speaker 1>have you experienced?

871
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:20.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, There was another time that we had some stuff happening.

872
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:25.199
<v Speaker 2>We went up to a little campsite. It's up close

873
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:28.920
<v Speaker 2>to Livingston area, and we were out there, a couple

874
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:32.800
<v Speaker 2>of us, my buddy Kevin Becky, his wife, and my

875
00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:37.559
<v Speaker 2>wife and Chane. We were all out and it was

876
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:41.719
<v Speaker 2>light rains and so we was kind of hunked underneath

877
00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:45.000
<v Speaker 2>a little canopy, a little fire going, and often a

878
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:49.400
<v Speaker 2>distance we heard what we call a cow bell, and

879
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:52.360
<v Speaker 2>it was crazy because we're in the woods. There's no

880
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:58.159
<v Speaker 2>cows around, so we just all kind of, you know,

881
00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:01.360
<v Speaker 2>blewed off. Didn't think a lot of it. Later on

882
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:05.079
<v Speaker 2>that night, I'd walked down this little walkway to go

883
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:08.159
<v Speaker 2>use a restroom. As I'm out there using a restroom,

884
00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:12.480
<v Speaker 2>they sound like something setting there. I wouldn't say it

885
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:15.360
<v Speaker 2>was wood on wood, but it was like tapping, almost

886
00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:18.360
<v Speaker 2>like rock clacks. It was just tat tat, tat, tap,

887
00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:21.559
<v Speaker 2>tat tap. It's kind of tripping me out because I'm

888
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:24.159
<v Speaker 2>in the dark out there, you know, all by myself

889
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:27.440
<v Speaker 2>hearing these things. And about the time I called them,

890
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:29.719
<v Speaker 2>I said, hey, y'all come over here, y'all come hear this.

891
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:32.679
<v Speaker 2>And they get out there and they don't hear anything.

892
00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:35.920
<v Speaker 2>They just think I'm nuts. So it was kind of

893
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:38.360
<v Speaker 2>a little funny ordeal. But you know, we did hear

894
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:42.559
<v Speaker 2>the cow bell. Nothing happened that night, you know, but

895
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:45.079
<v Speaker 2>just hearing strange things around the woods.

896
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is strange. Did you ever find a bell

897
00:51:48.440 --> 00:51:48.880
<v Speaker 1>out there?

898
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Never found a bell out there. We walked the area.

899
00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:56.480
<v Speaker 2>We actually had another guy come up out of the area.

900
00:51:56.519 --> 00:51:59.480
<v Speaker 2>They said they was chasing the deer and they was

901
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:01.760
<v Speaker 2>trying to find and we asked him to said, hey,

902
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:05.039
<v Speaker 2>was you out last night at any time? Did you,

903
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:07.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, have a cow bell or anything? Said no, no,

904
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:11.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, we talked to him about Bigfoot because I

905
00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:15.039
<v Speaker 2>believe it's on my buddy's shirt, and he told us

906
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:17.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm off the wall story that was kind of crazy.

907
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Basically that, uh, he think that Bigfoot. He was riding

908
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:26.239
<v Speaker 2>the three fuller and you think that Bigfoot through a

909
00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:31.360
<v Speaker 2>squirrel at him and knocked him off his fuller. So yeah,

910
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:33.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't put too much into it. I

911
00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:39.199
<v Speaker 2>just thought it was kind of funny, but it's a possibility. Possibility.

912
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Well, when it happens to you, you'll look back

913
00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:46.159
<v Speaker 1>at that story and be like he was telling the truth.

914
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:49.800
<v Speaker 2>I tell you, what if I get knocked down by

915
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:53.800
<v Speaker 2>a squirrel hitting me in the back, yeah, definitely gonna be.

916
00:52:53.800 --> 00:53:02.800
<v Speaker 1>A little worried, right, Yeah, absolutely. And so what else unfolding, Well, just.

917
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Not long ago, me and wife we went back to

918
00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:10.719
<v Speaker 2>this pond area. Took my buddy in there with us.

919
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:12.719
<v Speaker 2>He had been drinking a little bit, but you know,

920
00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:15.280
<v Speaker 2>he wont day, but you take me out. I want

921
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:17.679
<v Speaker 2>to do this whole bigfoot thing with you. It's like, hey,

922
00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:21.079
<v Speaker 2>come on, you know, a long time friend. And so

923
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:25.480
<v Speaker 2>we're walking and maybe about four or five hundred yards

924
00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:29.079
<v Speaker 2>from this gate into the national forest, we run across

925
00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:32.960
<v Speaker 2>a really massive X. I did put that on my

926
00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:35.960
<v Speaker 2>YouTube channel. I know, I hadn't told anybody about it

927
00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:41.199
<v Speaker 2>here on this just channel besides you. It's really neat.

928
00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:45.039
<v Speaker 2>It was very intertwined, lots of stuff in it. I

929
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:47.159
<v Speaker 2>should have put a little bit more footage and time

930
00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:50.519
<v Speaker 2>into it and did a little bit more investigation on it,

931
00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:55.559
<v Speaker 2>but we decided to press on into the pond. We

932
00:53:55.559 --> 00:53:59.480
<v Speaker 2>were there maybe two three hours, you know, doing a

933
00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:02.960
<v Speaker 2>little call. Also the wood knocks. We heard some faint

934
00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:07.559
<v Speaker 2>coyotes far far off in the distance. I was running

935
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:11.360
<v Speaker 2>recorder and it was out on the dock of this

936
00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:14.119
<v Speaker 2>little pond, so it picks up a lot of frogs,

937
00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:17.719
<v Speaker 2>a lot of crickets. My wife had decided to go

938
00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:20.239
<v Speaker 2>out on this little dock. She's got this little back

939
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:25.239
<v Speaker 2>to a wood knocker, and this time she'd decided to

940
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:28.760
<v Speaker 2>do the knock since I was getting no responses. And

941
00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:32.480
<v Speaker 2>when she did the knox, she got a response and

942
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:36.400
<v Speaker 2>it scared scared her pretty good. I heard the response,

943
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:39.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, and she come back to me and you

944
00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:42.800
<v Speaker 2>could read it in the video. You can tell where

945
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:46.400
<v Speaker 2>she says, I'm ready to go now, and it just

946
00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:49.119
<v Speaker 2>brung her back to the time before out there we

947
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:55.920
<v Speaker 2>had had our incident. So yeah, really about the last

948
00:54:55.960 --> 00:54:59.000
<v Speaker 2>thing to happen. It stayed pretty quiet for the rest

949
00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:01.559
<v Speaker 2>of the night and and we just decided to get

950
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:03.920
<v Speaker 2>out of there. It's probably one of the areas that

951
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:08.039
<v Speaker 2>I may even go back tonight. Yeah, it sounds like

952
00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:08.760
<v Speaker 2>a good area.

953
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Now. You were on the TV show searching for Sasquatch

954
00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:15.960
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube or on TV? Is that correct?

955
00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:18.679
<v Speaker 2>Yes? With Jason Kinzie.

956
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Yeah, okay, Yeah, I've watched the show a few

957
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:25.760
<v Speaker 1>times and it seems pretty interesting.

958
00:55:26.079 --> 00:55:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Wow, Okay, I could talk a little bit about that.

959
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:35.119
<v Speaker 2>I do have some of the footage myself the night

960
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:39.599
<v Speaker 2>with Jason and the sheet Squatchers. I have that video.

961
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:42.119
<v Speaker 2>I have not put it out because he has not

962
00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:46.519
<v Speaker 2>finished his end of the deal. Also, I guess he

963
00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:49.920
<v Speaker 2>is still traveling like always, so I'm hoping that he'll

964
00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:54.440
<v Speaker 2>put his video out here pretty soon. My buddy Shane

965
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:58.440
<v Speaker 2>invited me out. Was going out to the river. He says, Hey,

966
00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:01.960
<v Speaker 2>we're going to camp up river off grid. Bring everything

967
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:05.519
<v Speaker 2>you can just fit in this boat, and uh, we're

968
00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:07.639
<v Speaker 2>gonna go off grid up river. So all right, let's

969
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:12.679
<v Speaker 2>do it. So it's on a Friday night, that's always

970
00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:15.480
<v Speaker 2>pretty much a weekend. He was out there, I think

971
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:18.840
<v Speaker 2>maybe the night before me, or maybe the same night. Anyways,

972
00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:23.079
<v Speaker 2>so we go, we put up camp, and we decided

973
00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:25.960
<v Speaker 2>to you know, venture up river all the way as

974
00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:28.159
<v Speaker 2>far as we go. We were trying to come up

975
00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:32.000
<v Speaker 2>behind a big game ranch that was there, and because

976
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:36.719
<v Speaker 2>we've heard stuff out in that area. And so as

977
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:40.199
<v Speaker 2>we're going we get out there, he said, hey, up

978
00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:43.039
<v Speaker 2>here in this pipeline, you see that tent. We was

979
00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:46.360
<v Speaker 2>wanting to come out on the pipeline. We wanting to

980
00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:48.440
<v Speaker 2>check the pipeline because it's one of the incidents is

981
00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:54.280
<v Speaker 2>where we've had whoops come from. So as we're out there,

982
00:56:54.639 --> 00:56:57.519
<v Speaker 2>we check out the tent and we've seen that it

983
00:56:57.559 --> 00:56:59.760
<v Speaker 2>was left. It was a really nice tint. It was

984
00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:03.119
<v Speaker 2>like one left in a hurry. We didn't fully understand it,

985
00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:06.880
<v Speaker 2>but there is a rancher nearby, so maybe he got

986
00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:09.880
<v Speaker 2>run off, maybe he was using it for a hunt

987
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:13.360
<v Speaker 2>and blind I wouldn't see that, but no, less it

988
00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:17.079
<v Speaker 2>was left there. So after investigating it, we decided to

989
00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:19.880
<v Speaker 2>go on the boat and we went down river just

990
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:23.599
<v Speaker 2>a little bit further and we put up on the

991
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:29.159
<v Speaker 2>bank and as we're going in, I happened to notice

992
00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:31.719
<v Speaker 2>on the side of me it looked like a bunch

993
00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:35.719
<v Speaker 2>of palmettos on the ground. And as I started looking

994
00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:39.360
<v Speaker 2>at it and investigating it, I called my buddy Shane

995
00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:41.280
<v Speaker 2>over there and said, hey, look man, what is this?

996
00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:44.760
<v Speaker 2>It said, this looks like a bed. He's like, no way.

997
00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:49.079
<v Speaker 2>So as he gets investigating it, I started recording and

998
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:53.119
<v Speaker 2>recorded the whole deal. Basically, what it looked like is,

999
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:57.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe a juvenile had been laying there. It

1000
00:57:57.800 --> 00:58:01.960
<v Speaker 2>was a pretty good sized spot we investigate pretty good.

1001
00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:05.079
<v Speaker 2>We decided to look for more and as we started

1002
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:07.719
<v Speaker 2>looking around, we found some bigger ones. We've found some

1003
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:10.920
<v Speaker 2>smaller ones. And I recorded, you know, pretty much every

1004
00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:15.079
<v Speaker 2>bit of it and put it on my YouTube. He

1005
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:18.119
<v Speaker 2>had told me, he said, look, you know, now we

1006
00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:21.360
<v Speaker 2>got this, I'm gonna send this to Jason and I'm

1007
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:23.360
<v Speaker 2>gonna get him to come down here and we're gonna

1008
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:26.599
<v Speaker 2>do the whole thing and put it on video. And

1009
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:30.599
<v Speaker 2>so that that's fine. So Jason came out and we

1010
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:33.800
<v Speaker 2>put it all on video and hopefully, you know, that'll

1011
00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:37.920
<v Speaker 2>be coming out pretty soon for everybody to see. Yeah.

1012
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And you sent me some photos of it. It definitely

1013
00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:44.400
<v Speaker 1>looks like big beds. I don't know what what would

1014
00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:47.119
<v Speaker 1>do that other than squad or humans.

1015
00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:51.079
<v Speaker 2>Something with definitely with opposing fingers, you know. I don't

1016
00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:54.480
<v Speaker 2>hear if any other animals that would set there and

1017
00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:58.760
<v Speaker 2>tear apart a palmeto bush to use it just lay on. Now.

1018
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:00.960
<v Speaker 2>I would if I'm out out in the woods and

1019
00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:03.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm cold, I want to get myself up off the ground,

1020
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Sure that's something I would do. But right next to

1021
00:59:06.840 --> 00:59:10.039
<v Speaker 2>the creek where you know people's coming down through there

1022
00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:14.519
<v Speaker 2>and little bitty boats or kayaks because it's not exactly

1023
00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:18.519
<v Speaker 2>accessible by big boats. So you know, definitely some spot

1024
00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:21.840
<v Speaker 2>that gets set their watts or even hunt because the

1025
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:24.920
<v Speaker 2>palmettos that we were going through that were probably five

1026
00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:29.239
<v Speaker 2>five and high foot almost six foot tall. Wow.

1027
00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:33.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's an extraordinary fine and I'm glad you recorded.

1028
00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:35.559
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people find things like that and they

1029
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:38.440
<v Speaker 1>don't even think of recording it or documenting it, so

1030
00:59:39.239 --> 00:59:40.400
<v Speaker 1>kudos to you for doing that.

1031
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, there is a lot of things that I've caught

1032
00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:46.320
<v Speaker 2>and found in the past and hadn't always put on recording,

1033
00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:48.760
<v Speaker 2>and I've started trying to put a lot of that

1034
00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:51.639
<v Speaker 2>into my YouTube channel, where I'd never have before.

1035
00:59:53.480 --> 00:59:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure, I've done the same. Is there

1036
00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:58.519
<v Speaker 1>anything else you want to share?

1037
01:00:03.239 --> 01:00:05.320
<v Speaker 2>No, not that I could think of right this second.

1038
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:08.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure something will come up, you know, after we

1039
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:10.199
<v Speaker 2>get through talking, I'm sure I'll probably say, man, I

1040
01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:13.480
<v Speaker 2>should have talked to him about this. Yeah. Absolutely.

1041
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:18.639
<v Speaker 1>So what's your conclusion about the sasquatch migrating through North America?

1042
01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:21.159
<v Speaker 1>Do you think the ones in Texas are migrating maybe

1043
01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:23.599
<v Speaker 1>from like all the way up from New York through

1044
01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:28.960
<v Speaker 1>like Pennsylvania, Kentucky coming down in Texas. What are your

1045
01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:29.559
<v Speaker 1>thoughts about the.

1046
01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll tell you what. If you look at the maps,

1047
01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:37.920
<v Speaker 2>you can clearly say like a I would say, like

1048
01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:41.360
<v Speaker 2>a trail or path where they all have kind of

1049
01:00:41.679 --> 01:00:44.960
<v Speaker 2>settled or been, so I wouldn't doubt it. To me,

1050
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:48.119
<v Speaker 2>I feel like they travel, you know, like I talked

1051
01:00:48.119 --> 01:00:53.880
<v Speaker 2>about earlier pipelines, power line rideways. It's easy of access.

1052
01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:55.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's easy for us humans to get through

1053
01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:59.599
<v Speaker 2>there and avoid everything. I mean you have to go

1054
01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:02.039
<v Speaker 2>through some fence, some gates, but you know, I'm sure

1055
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:05.480
<v Speaker 2>they hop right over it. I would see them traveling.

1056
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, for sure. I think there's homebodies and travelers.

1057
01:01:12.360 --> 01:01:17.199
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like they're very similar to the Native Americans,

1058
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:19.840
<v Speaker 1>like they'll definitely settle in an area, but once they

1059
01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:22.239
<v Speaker 1>deplete the resources, they move somewhere else.

1060
01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:28.159
<v Speaker 2>Correct. What is that? Oklahoma? They did that investigation where

1061
01:01:28.199 --> 01:01:32.440
<v Speaker 2>they tagged one and it shows that there's basically you know,

1062
01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:37.559
<v Speaker 2>three areas that'll move. I guess the seasons fall into food.

1063
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:40.159
<v Speaker 2>I could see that. There's times we go to sam

1064
01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Houston it's like totally dead. You don't hear coyotes, you

1065
01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:45.480
<v Speaker 2>don't hear anything, and other times you go back and

1066
01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:48.880
<v Speaker 2>hear it, so I feel they do move around. Yes,

1067
01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:51.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean i'd have to chase my food fills out

1068
01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:51.800
<v Speaker 2>there too.

1069
01:01:53.079 --> 01:01:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure. I've noticed that in a lot

1070
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:57.840
<v Speaker 1>of my area. Sometimes it's dead, there ain't nothing going on,

1071
01:01:57.880 --> 01:02:01.039
<v Speaker 1>not even deer coyotes, And then other times I'll go

1072
01:02:01.119 --> 01:02:05.000
<v Speaker 1>back and there's wildlife all over the place. But yeah,

1073
01:02:05.519 --> 01:02:07.760
<v Speaker 1>it goes both ways. Like if you see a lot

1074
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:11.480
<v Speaker 1>of deer, a lot of turkeys in an area, you'll

1075
01:02:11.519 --> 01:02:14.760
<v Speaker 1>experience activity. But sometimes I've also noticed when there's no

1076
01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:18.920
<v Speaker 1>animals around, no bugs, nothing, sometimes they're they're there as well.

1077
01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:23.320
<v Speaker 2>It cracked, just like that night at the pond where

1078
01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:28.400
<v Speaker 2>we had our little encounter. Once everything started, it was

1079
01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:31.639
<v Speaker 2>dead quiet. You could hear a pin drop in that forest.

1080
01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:34.639
<v Speaker 2>It was just crazy, you know, It's just it was

1081
01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:38.960
<v Speaker 2>the eerie silence where almost your ears would hurt trying to,

1082
01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:41.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, hear he was looking for that next footstep.

1083
01:02:42.360 --> 01:02:46.719
<v Speaker 2>We couldn't hear it walking. It's just crazy. And you know,

1084
01:02:46.760 --> 01:02:49.920
<v Speaker 2>as big as this thing was, why couldn't we see it? Yeah,

1085
01:02:49.960 --> 01:02:52.559
<v Speaker 2>it was dark. Yeah, we're in the forest. We put

1086
01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:55.679
<v Speaker 2>a light out there, we still couldn't see anything. You know,

1087
01:02:56.119 --> 01:03:00.079
<v Speaker 2>inter dimensional, That's the way I feel. Yeah, you never know.

1088
01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:03.320
<v Speaker 1>And what time of year in Texas have you noticed

1089
01:03:03.360 --> 01:03:04.519
<v Speaker 1>the most activity.

1090
01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, that encounter happened in a vicious heat wave we had.

1091
01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:13.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was probably over one hundred degrees that year,

1092
01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:16.840
<v Speaker 2>so even in the heat, they moved just as well

1093
01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:20.320
<v Speaker 2>as wintertime. You know. My buddy boy told me about

1094
01:03:20.840 --> 01:03:23.880
<v Speaker 2>when there was a tropical storm coming and he was

1095
01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:26.719
<v Speaker 2>out at the camp area. It was raining, been raining

1096
01:03:26.719 --> 01:03:30.320
<v Speaker 2>for days, and then it was like the squatch surrounded

1097
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:34.519
<v Speaker 2>him was hollering, making all kinds of noises, either warning

1098
01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:37.440
<v Speaker 2>him that something was going on or it is because

1099
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:40.440
<v Speaker 2>they're being pushed out of their area. He said, it

1100
01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:44.039
<v Speaker 2>was so crazy it started driving nuts to where he

1101
01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:46.800
<v Speaker 2>walked out into the middle of the circle of the

1102
01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:50.320
<v Speaker 2>camp site was out there basically hollering and telling them

1103
01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:54.559
<v Speaker 2>to bring it on. You know, like I said, he's

1104
01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:59.559
<v Speaker 2>a little different character. Yeah, we all are in our

1105
01:03:59.559 --> 01:03:59.960
<v Speaker 2>own way.

1106
01:04:01.079 --> 01:04:04.400
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Roy, you did an excellent job at talking

1107
01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:08.280
<v Speaker 1>about all your experiences, and I really appreciate you taking

1108
01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the time to do that.

1109
01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:13.280
<v Speaker 2>What do you put into this door that you're hearing

1110
01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:16.440
<v Speaker 2>closed in the middle of the woods.

1111
01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:22.199
<v Speaker 1>That is still a mystery, and we've theorized that possibly

1112
01:04:22.280 --> 01:04:25.280
<v Speaker 1>it's a portal opening and shutting. That's the only thing

1113
01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I can think of that I don't know if that's.

1114
01:04:28.679 --> 01:04:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1115
01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:31.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like I want to say, that's the most logical

1116
01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:34.519
<v Speaker 1>explanation can I can find? But what's logical about that?

1117
01:04:34.679 --> 01:04:38.119
<v Speaker 1>But I do I feel like these things are using portals.

1118
01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:41.519
<v Speaker 1>But others may say they just migrate or they're really

1119
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:44.119
<v Speaker 1>good at hiding. I do. I think they migrate and

1120
01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:46.599
<v Speaker 1>they're really good at hiding. But there's still something more

1121
01:04:46.679 --> 01:04:49.320
<v Speaker 1>to it, especially with people seeing all kinds of orbs

1122
01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:54.199
<v Speaker 1>associated with the activity, same timeframe, same place, same day.

1123
01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:56.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, there's definitely more to it.

1124
01:04:57.679 --> 01:05:00.760
<v Speaker 2>I would say, either portals or tunnels. You know, you

1125
01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:06.119
<v Speaker 2>hear a lot about underground tunnels. I mean, if excuse me,

1126
01:05:06.199 --> 01:05:09.360
<v Speaker 2>but if a Mexican can dig from one side of

1127
01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:13.440
<v Speaker 2>the border to the next to cross, then why couldn't

1128
01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:16.920
<v Speaker 2>there be tunnels that animals made? Yeah?

1129
01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I agree, I've thought about that too, Like the Sasquatch

1130
01:05:20.039 --> 01:05:24.079
<v Speaker 1>move giant, huge rocks that maybe we can't even move

1131
01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:26.239
<v Speaker 1>with machinery. If they work as a group and there's

1132
01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:29.519
<v Speaker 1>tunnels underneath those rocks in the forest, we just don't

1133
01:05:29.519 --> 01:05:31.880
<v Speaker 1>see him because we can't lift up those rocks.

1134
01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:35.679
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's just like the story I remember reading here

1135
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:39.000
<v Speaker 2>a while back about a little boy that was out,

1136
01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:43.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, by hisself, playing around and he kept seeing

1137
01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:45.920
<v Speaker 2>this little kid, and this little kid would come talk

1138
01:05:46.079 --> 01:05:49.719
<v Speaker 2>to him and they would have a little interaction, and

1139
01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:51.960
<v Speaker 2>then the kid said he had to go back home,

1140
01:05:52.639 --> 01:05:56.119
<v Speaker 2>and he went into a hole. And then eventually the

1141
01:05:56.199 --> 01:06:00.199
<v Speaker 2>little boy followed him, and you know he was He

1142
01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:02.880
<v Speaker 2>took him off in this little room where they had toys,

1143
01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:06.320
<v Speaker 2>and yet he was underground, and he said he had

1144
01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:09.079
<v Speaker 2>to hide, you know, from the big one nor his

1145
01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:12.760
<v Speaker 2>parents with him. I don't know if you've ever heard

1146
01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:15.360
<v Speaker 2>of you need to or read anything on some of that.

1147
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:17.599
<v Speaker 2>But then later on the boy come out of there

1148
01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:21.199
<v Speaker 2>after he was fearing for whatever was going to happen

1149
01:06:21.199 --> 01:06:22.960
<v Speaker 2>because the little kid turned evil on me.

1150
01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's pretty wild there, And I've noticed the same

1151
01:06:29.639 --> 01:06:33.039
<v Speaker 1>here in Missouri, at least for me personally, Like I've

1152
01:06:33.079 --> 01:06:37.960
<v Speaker 1>had the most experiences. A bulk of my encounters during

1153
01:06:38.199 --> 01:06:40.920
<v Speaker 1>the hot days of the summertime but there's not very

1154
01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:43.079
<v Speaker 1>many people walking around the woods when it's hot out

1155
01:06:43.119 --> 01:06:45.760
<v Speaker 1>there on the rivers and creeks and stuff, but just

1156
01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:47.800
<v Speaker 1>nasty out in the woods. It's hard to be a

1157
01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:51.679
<v Speaker 1>researcher in the summertime. But that's when the sasquatch thrive

1158
01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:55.199
<v Speaker 1>of it. The forest is thick. There's all kinds of bugs, mushrooms,

1159
01:06:55.880 --> 01:06:58.079
<v Speaker 1>and they can just hide easily.

1160
01:06:58.719 --> 01:07:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Correct, you know, like you said, there's a lot less

1161
01:07:01.360 --> 01:07:04.000
<v Speaker 2>people in the forest when it's hot. Now when it

1162
01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:06.400
<v Speaker 2>comes wintertime, get out of my way, because I'm coming.

1163
01:07:08.159 --> 01:07:11.039
<v Speaker 2>I like the winter camp you know, I'm a bigger guy,

1164
01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:15.840
<v Speaker 2>so it's like air conditioning for me. Yeah, like my campfires,

1165
01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:18.280
<v Speaker 2>and it's it's much easier to move around the woods,

1166
01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:22.639
<v Speaker 2>not so scared of snakes, you know, things like that,

1167
01:07:22.679 --> 01:07:26.880
<v Speaker 2>the mosquitoes. When it's wintertime, mosquitoes go away. A lot

1168
01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:29.719
<v Speaker 2>of your ticks die. So yeah, it makes it a

1169
01:07:29.719 --> 01:07:30.800
<v Speaker 2>lot easier for us.

1170
01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, I'm kind of looking forward to the

1171
01:07:34.519 --> 01:07:38.639
<v Speaker 1>fall and the winter time for bigfoot research because right

1172
01:07:38.679 --> 01:07:40.440
<v Speaker 1>now it's just been in pain in the butt.

1173
01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Correct. I look forward to again to get this Christmas

1174
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:49.199
<v Speaker 2>at least, maybe even October I'm probably gonna go out

1175
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:51.480
<v Speaker 2>in the woods for a week by myself, maybe just

1176
01:07:51.519 --> 01:07:52.159
<v Speaker 2>me and the dog.

1177
01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:56.719
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, well, I wish you nothing but the best.

1178
01:07:56.760 --> 01:08:00.159
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully find some really if you, hopefully if I and

1179
01:08:00.199 --> 01:08:03.559
<v Speaker 1>more good evidence in the future, because you've already found

1180
01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:08.079
<v Speaker 1>some excellent evidence, and maybe you'll lay eyes on one

1181
01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:10.480
<v Speaker 1>and then you'll be back on sasquatch theory for a

1182
01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:13.280
<v Speaker 1>part too. Maybe we'll meet up one day for an investigation.

1183
01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:16.039
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'd like to do. I think more of

1184
01:08:16.119 --> 01:08:20.000
<v Speaker 2>us YouTubers really should come together, you know. I've seen

1185
01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:22.039
<v Speaker 2>you do it already a little bit, you know, with

1186
01:08:22.119 --> 01:08:26.680
<v Speaker 2>half inch Rents group. I do like that there's smaller

1187
01:08:26.760 --> 01:08:29.079
<v Speaker 2>channels out there that could use a little bit of uplift,

1188
01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:29.319
<v Speaker 2>you know.

1189
01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, I don't know what would be halfway for us.

1190
01:08:33.640 --> 01:08:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it'd be like Arkansas.

1191
01:08:35.680 --> 01:08:38.399
<v Speaker 2>Well, even if we didn't have to do that, I

1192
01:08:38.439 --> 01:08:41.439
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't mind going somewhere. I'm not against traveling, always have

1193
01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:42.560
<v Speaker 2>even with my job.

1194
01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:46.319
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, we'll keep in touch. We'll try to set

1195
01:08:46.359 --> 01:08:49.600
<v Speaker 1>something up. And I appreciate you for logging down your

1196
01:08:49.600 --> 01:08:51.279
<v Speaker 1>reports on sasquatch theory.

1197
01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, me go well, I just kind of wanted

1198
01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:55.800
<v Speaker 2>to get some of it off my chests. You know,

1199
01:08:55.880 --> 01:08:59.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't have the experiences that other people's had, But

1200
01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:01.479
<v Speaker 2>then again, it lets me talk about it. It never

1201
01:09:01.560 --> 01:09:04.880
<v Speaker 2>hurts to talk about some of the things that's happening.

1202
01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:08.119
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people are scared, but you know, with

1203
01:09:08.279 --> 01:09:11.720
<v Speaker 2>more people coming forward, I think it helps absolutely.

1204
01:09:11.800 --> 01:09:14.359
<v Speaker 1>And where can people find your YouTube channel? What's it called.

1205
01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:16.279
<v Speaker 2>It's called Weekend Warriors.

1206
01:09:16.840 --> 01:09:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Weekend Warriors on YouTube. Check it out. All right, Roy,

1207
01:09:21.720 --> 01:09:24.359
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you. You'd be safe out there in the woods,

1208
01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:27.800
<v Speaker 1>and if you feel like you're in danger, definitely pull out.

1209
01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:29.479
<v Speaker 2>My friend, Yes, sir, thank you.

1210
01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:33.039
<v Speaker 1>Miguel yep, thank you, and you take care of yourself

1211
01:09:33.439 --> 01:09:33.760
<v Speaker 1>all right.

1212
01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.