Speaker 1: Roy, Welcome to Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today?
Speaker 2: I'm doing good? And Gil, how are you doing excellent.
Speaker 1: It's an absolute pleasure to have you on the show.
Speaker 2: Roy.
Speaker 1: If you would tell me a little bit about yourself,
Speaker 1: where you're from, and all your bigfoot experiences from the
Speaker 1: very beginning, please all right.
Speaker 2: Miguel currently from around Cleveland, Texas area. Been living in
Speaker 2: East Texas now for several years. Pretty much most of
Speaker 2: my life been you know here, been in Ohio. I
Speaker 2: moved back down here and I think around nineties so,
Speaker 2: but everything started for me in around two thousand and eight,
Speaker 2: Like I said, when my mom had passed and little
Speaker 2: things was going on and I was trying to get
Speaker 2: out of the house a lot. My cousin reached out
Speaker 2: to me. We had a dear lease that we was
Speaker 2: going to in Plantersville, and he said, hey, man, I
Speaker 2: got some things going on up here that is kind
Speaker 2: of freaking me out. He said, I'm having some rocks
Speaker 2: thrown at me, some tree limbs being broke, and he said, man,
Speaker 2: I really need you to come up here. I'm freaking out.
Speaker 2: I have my son with me. I'm not sure what's
Speaker 2: going on. And I told him. I said, look, I
Speaker 2: have to work tomorrow. Unfortunately I can't get up there
Speaker 2: until after work. He said, that's fine, he's going to
Speaker 2: figure it out. He locked the sun in the truck,
Speaker 2: he got a gun, he laid up underneath the truck
Speaker 2: because he was so freaked out. A lot of the
Speaker 2: full story, I'd rather let him tell you, but cut
Speaker 2: to the story we later on as I showed up,
Speaker 2: I went up there. We was walking the pipeline because
Speaker 2: there's a pipeline that cuts through the property. And we
Speaker 2: was walking the pipeline and we found a print down
Speaker 2: in the bottom of a ravine. It was very distinctive
Speaker 2: in clay. I took pictures. You know, I have a
Speaker 2: was eleven and a half twelve, So I took pictures
Speaker 2: with my boot right next to it. It door for
Speaker 2: my foot. It was crazy. And you know, really around
Speaker 2: that time, I had some knowledge on Bigfoot, but we
Speaker 2: really didn't put everything together. It didn't hit me, I
Speaker 2: guess until later in life. You know, I have them pictures.
Speaker 2: I had those pictures on a cell phone. But then
Speaker 2: we're flip phoned because, like I said, two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2: So but then around twenty eleven, I discovered a little
Speaker 2: bit of YouTube and was dabbling and all that. And
Speaker 2: around twenty twenty I run into a buddy of mine
Speaker 2: that was doing some big foot stuff. His name was
Speaker 2: Shane Lee, and he introduced me into TAPS, which is
Speaker 2: Texas Acknowledgement of Sasquatch and Preservation. So upon that was with.
Speaker 2: The group went to a big meet in sam Houston
Speaker 2: and it was kind of different, you know, it was
Speaker 2: real close to one of the winners. It was a
Speaker 2: real hard winner that year. So although we didn't get
Speaker 2: a lot, you know, I'd learned from him talk to them.
Speaker 2: There was wasn't a lot of stuff happening that year.
Speaker 2: But later on, around twenty twenty one, we was back
Speaker 2: in sam Houston and I run into a buddy of
Speaker 2: mine that was there, Gabe Guerrero. He had run South
Speaker 2: Texas Bigfoot Investigations. And upon this big meet, we all
Speaker 2: decided we're gonna go to the Lone Star Trail and
Speaker 2: we're gonna split up on the Lone Star Trail. One
Speaker 2: half the group's gonna start at the one end, the
Speaker 2: other half will start on this end. So it's me, Gabe,
Speaker 2: my wife, my son, his girlfriend. We was all on
Speaker 2: the Lone Star Trail and we was walking towards one
Speaker 2: another trail. It's about, I don't know, maybe a mile
Speaker 2: two miles long, and we got so far in there
Speaker 2: and we just decided, hey, you know, this is gonna
Speaker 2: be a little while or whatever. We're gonna turn around
Speaker 2: and go back. And during that time, I decided I
Speaker 2: was going to hang back just a little bit. I
Speaker 2: was actually playing a bullshit card. I was thinking, man,
Speaker 2: this is this is this is crazy. I don't know,
Speaker 2: nothing's gonna happen. So I held back a little ways.
Speaker 2: And as they were walking off from me, and I'm
Speaker 2: just standing there in the dark, thinking to myself, you know,
Speaker 2: this is crazy. And I start walking back and I
Speaker 2: hear I'm thinking that's kind of crazy. And so the
Speaker 2: only way I can describe it, something come through the woods.
Speaker 2: So I decided to catch up to everybody that was
Speaker 2: walking in front of me. And as I'm walking along again,
Speaker 2: I hear that time I knew something was thrown. Happens
Speaker 2: twice you're in the woods. We were too far apart.
Speaker 2: We tried to radio the other group it was we
Speaker 2: couldn't hear them though, so far apart. So as we
Speaker 2: get towards the end of the trail, we come up
Speaker 2: to a little tea and games in front of me,
Speaker 2: and he has this thermal and he says, I'm seeing something,
Speaker 2: and we're all sitting there and we're looking. We kind
Speaker 2: of gathered around him and he's sat there, and as
Speaker 2: it comes up, we can start hearing it. And you
Speaker 2: can tell this thing is pretty big, you know, you
Speaker 2: can hear it. And as it's coming up, I just
Speaker 2: had this eerie feeling. We're all kind of nervous and
Speaker 2: scared because it's dark, and it just as it got
Speaker 2: closer and closer and closer than the nerves built up
Speaker 2: everybody around us. And that so much you hear about,
Speaker 2: you know, people's crazy encounters. I decided to say, hey,
Speaker 2: chill out, big guy, something to that manner, and it stopped,
Speaker 2: and he's sitting there recording. He's got it all on
Speaker 2: flir and he tried to send it to me, but
Speaker 2: I think I did send to you the actual video
Speaker 2: in a little I didn't get the audio. But anyways,
Speaker 2: and so as it took about right face and turned
Speaker 2: and walked away from us, and in the video it
Speaker 2: looks like there's least three he said, as probably two
Speaker 2: juveniles and a bigger one. And we went back the
Speaker 2: next day and was checking out the area and now
Speaker 2: it's tall palmeadows and there it goes down to water,
Speaker 2: so there was actually everything in the video looks kind
Speaker 2: of small, but it's downhill, so you know, there could
Speaker 2: be a big high difference there. We didn't go back
Speaker 2: and reenact anything. Never thought about anything like that, but uh,
Speaker 2: later on we decided to uh go to the pipeline
Speaker 2: which is further up in sam Houston, and my buddy
Speaker 2: Shane and Gabe, they pull up in their car and
Speaker 2: I pull up with my wife and we get out
Speaker 2: on the pipeline and uh, Shane's walking around with me,
Speaker 2: and we both walked the back car. Wife held back,
Speaker 2: Gabe held back. He didn't even have his recorder, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we're hearing whoop whoop, woop, whoop whoop,
Speaker 2: and it sounded like it was singing. Now, this is
Speaker 2: my first whoops that I ever heard. And I was
Speaker 2: told my buddy is Shane. I said, Man, do you
Speaker 2: recording your recording? He said no, no, no, no, I'm not.
Speaker 2: It's like man started to hurry, hurry. But about time
Speaker 2: we started, everything ceased. So you know, that was a
Speaker 2: little kind of crazy things that we've had going on
Speaker 2: in sam Houston. Never had anything come into camp. We've
Speaker 2: had that clothes counter there on the Lone Star. Then
Speaker 2: I went with Shane Lee to Big Ticket. We have
Speaker 2: an area out in Big Ticket that it's pretty promising.
Speaker 2: We go every so often. Yeah, Shane is further away
Speaker 2: from me, you know, I'm closer, so a lot of
Speaker 2: the people in the group are further away, so I
Speaker 2: don't always get to go out. I will go out
Speaker 2: by myself, as you know. But when me and Shane
Speaker 2: was there, we had it. I watched a lot of YouTube,
Speaker 2: so I learned from an older group. I can't remember
Speaker 2: the YouTube channel name, but I seen them. They were
Speaker 2: out gifting and feeding and when they would walk away
Speaker 2: to let them know that they were there, they did
Speaker 2: a rock clack and they had an immediate response of whoops.
Speaker 2: So I decided while we was up there after finding
Speaker 2: you know, twists and all kinds of scientists up there,
Speaker 2: because Shane had told me, you know, he's had an
Speaker 2: incident there. One of his big incidents is first with
Speaker 2: his wife Anyways, so we did the rock clack with
Speaker 2: Shane and we had an immediate response on the popeline
Speaker 2: and we was both in shock and awe, it's crazy. Uh.
Speaker 2: And then again we wasn't recording, so none of it's
Speaker 2: on recording. It's just you know, it's your say. Uh.
Speaker 2: There's another time we had some rock clack responses. But
Speaker 2: then again, you know, nothing's recorded. It always seems like
Speaker 2: when you're recording, you won't hear anything. It's always real quiet.
Speaker 2: It seems like you whip out a video camera, you know,
Speaker 2: everything goes dead or they don't want to make you know,
Speaker 2: any noise. I don't know. I know you've probably had
Speaker 2: that same thing happened to you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. What do you think the rock clacking means?
Speaker 2: Uh? For me, it's almost like I'm over here, because
Speaker 2: as soon as I did it, it was a whoop back,
Speaker 2: and you know, they had used it to tell them
Speaker 2: that the food was there, and then they answered that
Speaker 2: they was there. So to me, it's almost like, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm here. You know, Hey, I'm here. Yeah. I've had,
Speaker 2: you know, several incidences where you can hear a little
Speaker 2: rock clacking. You know, no other way to describe the
Speaker 2: sound besides something taking it and hitting it together. Not
Speaker 2: an area where there's otters, you know, because the otter
Speaker 2: will lay there and you know, break stuff on its
Speaker 2: chest or I don't really hear if raccoon's doing it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, absolutely, something with opposable hands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. You said you found twists. Are
Speaker 1: you talking about the when they break a tree and
Speaker 1: twist it correct?
Speaker 2: Yes, lots of twists an area. What do you think
Speaker 2: that signifies. Well, you hear a lot of Native American
Speaker 2: talk about how they've been trees and to mark trees
Speaker 2: certain directions, you know, I know you can follow some
Speaker 2: of it, and you know, sometimes you come upon structures.
Speaker 2: You know, you may come upon a blind you know,
Speaker 2: it's I take it as like a direction in the woods.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. And what other types
Speaker 1: of structures have you found out in the forest.
Speaker 2: I think one of the biggest ones I've ever found
Speaker 2: I sent to you and I found out when we
Speaker 2: was in Oklahoma just this past year on Christmas. It's
Speaker 2: been a week in the mountains of Oklahoma. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And did you experience activity in Oklahoma?
Speaker 2: Uh? Well, we had, it was we was there for
Speaker 2: a week and late in the week, you know, I
Speaker 2: run recorder every night. I need to go back through it.
Speaker 2: But late in the week, closer to Christmas or yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it's Crossler. Christmas, we had no visitors, and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, some people decided they were
Speaker 2: gonna come down. We was on the dead end of
Speaker 2: the mountain, right off one of the sides, like a
Speaker 2: big ravine fall off. Anyways, some people come pulling in
Speaker 2: and as they're pulling in, they're backing in before they
Speaker 2: ever get out. I hear a knot a loud knock,
Speaker 2: wow wow, And I look over at my wife. She
Speaker 2: looks me and on mys just get huge. I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, you know did you hear that? She's like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: My son's standing there and said did you hear that?
Speaker 2: He said, yeah, Dad, I heard it. I'm like, do
Speaker 2: you think that's them? You know, just out here messing
Speaker 2: around Like I don't know. I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: I need to go talk to these people and find out. So,
Speaker 2: long story short, I went and talked to him, and
Speaker 2: he looked at me kind of crazy when I asked
Speaker 2: him about Bigfoot. He was older, gentleman, and he and
Speaker 2: I said, well, did you hear any wood knocks? He said,
Speaker 2: what's that? And I kind of described it to me.
Speaker 2: He said, nah, I didn't hear nothing like that, so
Speaker 2: I know therefore what it was. I think it was
Speaker 2: something that was close by watching us, And when they
Speaker 2: pulled in, it knocked, and then it backed out, it
Speaker 2: knocked again, and then it was gone. Later that evening,
Speaker 2: as it got closer to dark, I kept hearing a
Speaker 2: lot of tapping noises like sound just down the hill
Speaker 2: from us. But if anything coming to camp, nothing ever
Speaker 2: messed with us. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And what other states have you done researching?
Speaker 2: Primarily just Oklahoma Texas. I've been to Arkansas all around
Speaker 2: Bogga Creek, but never any investigations out there. Okay.
Speaker 1: And when you lived in Ohio did you experience anything
Speaker 1: or was it only when you moved it to Texas
Speaker 1: the activity unfolded throughout your life?
Speaker 2: Now it was really primarily only in Texas, although I
Speaker 2: hear about so much about Ohio. You know, I wish
Speaker 2: I had to run into it then, but I was
Speaker 2: a lot younger, so maybe it's better now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I've heard some terrifying bigfoot encounters from Texas
Speaker 1: especially East Texas and primarily on Sasquatch chronicles. I've heard
Speaker 1: some horrifying stories from my clog hunters and just people
Speaker 1: out in the forest in general. Now, have you noticed
Speaker 1: anything like that where the Sasquatch are different than in
Speaker 1: other areas they're in Texas.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say anything different because every encounter that I've had,
Speaker 2: I've I've had a scary encounter, but nothing that rattled
Speaker 2: me so bad that I was afraid to ever go back.
Speaker 2: So I don't think anything from Pahoma to Texas is
Speaker 2: about the same. I mean, I'm sure there's a different guy,
Speaker 2: different squatches, different areas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And from my conclusion for my theories and
Speaker 1: my research, I feel like they're the same all across
Speaker 1: the board, all across the world, because I hear a
Speaker 1: lot of people say they're only terrifying in Alaska and
Speaker 1: they're they're dangerous there, But from the stories I've heard
Speaker 1: here in the US, they kind of line up with
Speaker 1: the stories I've heard in Alaska, especially in Oklahoma, the
Speaker 1: Siege of Enobi and the East Texas stories, and yeah,
Speaker 1: loggers being messed with in Washington State and the Sasquatch
Speaker 1: tearing up the equipment, chasing loggers out of the out
Speaker 1: of the forest.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just think if you tick them off, they're gonna
Speaker 1: let you know it. And they're more there. I think
Speaker 1: they're more dangerous and huge forests where they're not as
Speaker 1: used to just seeing people and running into them, opposed
Speaker 1: to like, yeah, opposed areas like let's say Florida in
Speaker 1: a suburb where there's forest or swamp, but still you've
Speaker 1: got development all over the place. I think those sasquatch
Speaker 1: are just they're used to just sitting there watching people
Speaker 1: and it's an everyday sort of thing for them.
Speaker 2: Correct. We are their TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, it's got to be the dumbest channel on
Speaker 1: the planet. Now, So what else have you experienced? I
Speaker 1: was going through other photos and it looks like you
Speaker 1: found several tracks.
Speaker 2: Yes, there's an area over in Cold Springs, Texas that
Speaker 2: I've went to with the wife in the past, and
Speaker 2: it's a pipeline area and it backs up. You know,
Speaker 2: it's all in the National forest. So there's a lot
Speaker 2: of national forests. Sam Houston, So we was walking down
Speaker 2: the popeline. There was maybe two three days after rain
Speaker 2: that's come when I like to go, I can find tracks.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't always put a lot into tracks casting,
Speaker 2: but it'll present a direction, you know, so or an
Speaker 2: area that they may possibly even be in. So we
Speaker 2: was out there and I think I sent you those
Speaker 2: pictures of the tracks, and we was out there for
Speaker 2: a good while. Walking around. This area makes a big loop,
Speaker 2: or you can go further down, but we just was
Speaker 2: making a loop. And we come back and it was
Speaker 2: getting closer to dark time, and for some reason, every
Speaker 2: now and in the woods, I picked up where I whistled.
Speaker 2: Now everybody says you're not really supposed to whistle, Well
Speaker 2: I did, and I do, and something whistled back to
Speaker 2: me and us so loud that it scared us because
Speaker 2: it's dark, we're out there where nobody's around, and we
Speaker 2: was on a pipeline and there was you know, just trees,
Speaker 2: and there's no camping areas where it comes from. And
Speaker 2: it whistled so loud that it kind of shook me
Speaker 2: and a wife was freaking out. We had a and
Speaker 2: he's a Belgium mountain wall and he never reacted, he
Speaker 2: never turned his head nothing, but it spooked us pretty
Speaker 2: good because it's dark, and it was just like, hey,
Speaker 2: let's let's get out of here. It wasn't recording. I
Speaker 2: only had a cell phone and that's when I took
Speaker 2: a picture of the track. But that's just you know,
Speaker 2: one area. Like I said, I've been doing this for
Speaker 2: a long time.
Speaker 1: So do you think the dog would react to the whistle?
Speaker 1: I feel like they would. Do you feel like there's
Speaker 1: something supernatural about that infra sound? Like why do you
Speaker 1: think the dog didn't react to the whistle?
Speaker 2: Well, I believe we all have an energy and that
Speaker 2: energy could be read by animals very you know, a
Speaker 2: lot more than we would ever think of. And you know,
Speaker 2: possibly he felt the fear. Possibly he just was knowing that,
Speaker 2: or it's in a you can't say it's in a
Speaker 2: whistle sound that they wouldn't hear, because as they can
Speaker 2: hear better than us. So I don't know, it is strange.
Speaker 2: It's something that I still, you know, don't understand and
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't understand it.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, like a dog whistle, we can't really
Speaker 1: hear it too well. And maybe the sasquatch no a
Speaker 1: certain whistle at a certain frequency that coyotes can't pick
Speaker 1: up and maybe the dogs can't pick up on it.
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's that's strange. I've heard of stories
Speaker 1: where these things are beating on the cabins and everybody's
Speaker 1: terrifying inside the cabin. And they say, like the dogs
Speaker 1: were asleep the whole time.
Speaker 2: They never woke up, never react. Yeah, it's like a
Speaker 2: fear instilled in them, you know. And maybe that's why
Speaker 2: they don't even react. They'd just rather lay there. Or
Speaker 2: it's like, what's that the infrasound they put out? Maybe
Speaker 2: it's like infrasound, so it causes them to be still
Speaker 2: lock up in other words.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some sort of strange hum that they produce. But
Speaker 1: also I've noticed where the dogs will just take off
Speaker 1: barking and running at something unknown. I don't know what
Speaker 1: got their attention.
Speaker 2: And I've heard that too. Yeah, that's what I always
Speaker 2: worry about with my dog when I take him out
Speaker 2: like you with Yaowie. And and I don't blame you
Speaker 2: for leaving him at camp. You know what if something happens,
Speaker 2: you know, you hear about him hurting them. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't want to go through. My dog is like
Speaker 2: my child.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's risky leaving him at camp. But also I
Speaker 1: know if I go deep in the woods at nighttime
Speaker 1: and he sees something and he chases it, it's gonna
Speaker 1: not be so good and he could get lost at nighttime.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be looking for a dog in
Speaker 1: the middle of a huge forest at.
Speaker 2: Night, especially where you are, Miguel. You know you have
Speaker 2: other stuff out there compared to what we have in Texas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I run into the hogs, I know he's
Speaker 1: not going to back down, and either of those hogs,
Speaker 1: so it won't end well. Correct, But yeah, it sounds
Speaker 1: like again they were watching you when they whistled, And
Speaker 1: I agree with what you said, like we're their entertainment,
Speaker 1: and I don't know I have I've always pictured it
Speaker 1: like these things are just watching us and we're just
Speaker 1: some weird TV show to them, maybe maybe like Jerry
Speaker 1: Springer or something. They're like, look at look at the humans.
Speaker 1: Look what they're doing.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, you know, just the same reason
Speaker 2: they would go to someone's window and look through it.
Speaker 2: You know, they're watching why, you know, do they want
Speaker 2: to talk? Do they are they want to eat you?
Speaker 2: I don't think so, but I think more or less,
Speaker 2: it's entertainment to them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's why a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: see them, because they've already seen you. And I've heard
Speaker 1: a lot of researchers talk about these things. Know, when
Speaker 1: you're in the woods and a lot of hunters take
Speaker 1: the same like they park in the same spot, they
Speaker 1: take the same trails and they go They all go
Speaker 1: in the same way, even if they're not hunting the
Speaker 1: same spots. They all start from the same areas. And
Speaker 1: I think it was Cliff Berrickman I was talking about it,
Speaker 1: but he's said they've noticed people have encounters when they
Speaker 1: switch things up, like coming in from the back, and
Speaker 1: that's when someone has an experience doing something that they
Speaker 1: normally wouldn't do.
Speaker 2: And that happened to me. Correct. I believe that because
Speaker 2: you know, we all get used to doing the same
Speaker 2: repetitive things over and over and over. Why, because it's comfortable.
Speaker 2: When you go to an uncomfortable spot, Like you said,
Speaker 2: things can happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're creatures of habit and maybe the sasquatch aren't,
Speaker 1: like they always do something different.
Speaker 2: I kind of wonder that do they walk one certain trail,
Speaker 2: do they move you know, I'm sure they kind of
Speaker 2: go around everywhere they want to, you know, that's kind
Speaker 2: of you know, their their land is everywhere, so they
Speaker 2: have no boundaries.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that they're always switching things up,
Speaker 1: and I've noticed that with like really big bucks. I've
Speaker 1: messed up a few hunts and I just hoped myself, Man,
Speaker 1: I hope that buck comes right back out too that field. Again,
Speaker 1: they never do, and I watched the trail cameras and
Speaker 1: they never show back up, and I'm like, man, that
Speaker 1: was like a once in a lifetime shot, and I
Speaker 1: blew it.
Speaker 2: I've messed up one. Two Miguel. It sounded like to me,
Speaker 2: I think it was the buck fever, and it sounded
Speaker 2: like my heart was just gonna come out of my chest.
Speaker 2: I swear I opened my mouth and that thing looked
Speaker 2: up and was gone. Yeah. So yeah, I've been there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And I've noticed the sasquatch. They like to
Speaker 1: hang out in areas where you see big bucks or
Speaker 1: a lot of game. So if you're in a good
Speaker 1: area for hunting, it could be a good spot for sasquatch.
Speaker 2: Correct. However, in the same Houston National Forest, there's some
Speaker 2: areas that we're in hunter's camp slot and we talked
Speaker 2: to hunters and a lot of them has said that
Speaker 2: it seems like a lot of the deer population out
Speaker 2: there has dwindled down significant. So we still hear them
Speaker 2: out there. They're still there. We still see deer. You know,
Speaker 2: We're not out there every day to see them, but
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm seeing and hearing the same thing from local
Speaker 1: hunters here in this area that just nobody's seeing deer.
Speaker 1: I mean there's obviously like dose and small bucks, but
Speaker 1: as far as like the big deer herds like there
Speaker 1: used to be in the big bucks, like we're just
Speaker 1: not seeing them, or even the sign like big rubs
Speaker 1: on trees and just kind of disappeared. I wonder if
Speaker 1: there's more cryptids nowadays and more deer getting eaten well.
Speaker 2: Being in the field that I'm in, I've cleared a
Speaker 2: lot of land and that I would say, the construction
Speaker 2: is huge everywhere, is growing everywhere, and I think that
Speaker 2: has a big impact on all the infrastructure for them
Speaker 2: for us, you know, so they are moving in different areas,
Speaker 2: being pushed into different areas, just like any other wildlife. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I agree, with that as well.
Speaker 1: I think there's many factors as to white people aren't
Speaker 1: seeing deer, even the different sicknesses or illnesses that the
Speaker 1: deer are getting to so.
Speaker 2: Much more now that it's actually getting ridiculous, you know,
Speaker 2: with the with the deer. You know, you see them
Speaker 2: all the time, videos, maybe foaming out the mouth, you know,
Speaker 2: laying down, kicking around, acting kind of crazy. You know,
Speaker 2: you got ticks now that will get all over them.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just, uh, it's a very weird times
Speaker 2: in this world.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, So what else have you experienced? What
Speaker 1: else have you found in your research and your time
Speaker 1: out in the woods.
Speaker 2: Well, there's another time that I'd definitely like to talk about.
Speaker 2: Being in the oil field. I was able to cut
Speaker 2: the pipeline across Sam Houston National Forces Now started off
Speaker 2: Lake conro in one of the all the way across
Speaker 2: the forest ten miles and so when we was out
Speaker 2: there cutting, you know, we got to cut up so
Speaker 2: many two miles a day minimal. And as we're cutting
Speaker 2: through the area, we come upon Kelly's Pond. And from
Speaker 2: behind Kelly's Pond, I'd seen a lot of breaks, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, twists, just from Tracherous View, so I know
Speaker 2: that that's a really good area. I haven't done too
Speaker 2: much investigations back in there because I have so many areas.
Speaker 2: But as I was going down the pipeline a little
Speaker 2: closer in towards an area, Stubblefield area, and there's a
Speaker 2: road that cuts across there, and as we get closer
Speaker 2: to the road, there's a big wet spot. And in
Speaker 2: this wet spot, I'm just I'm driving and I'm constantly
Speaker 2: looking because just what I do. And I've seen a
Speaker 2: bunch of prints in the water and it was a
Speaker 2: semi dry puddle, and so I got out and I
Speaker 2: started looking and I was like, oh my god, I
Speaker 2: got to come back and cast some of these. It
Speaker 2: was big prints and there were small prints, and it
Speaker 2: was all around and it looked like something big had
Speaker 2: stood there. And kind of watched the kids play in
Speaker 2: the water. Now, being out in the middle of nothing,
Speaker 2: I don't see someone just pulling up off a pipeline
Speaker 2: letting their kids get out and play around in the
Speaker 2: puddle that's muddy in bare feet, you know, not this
Speaker 2: day and age. Not. I mean, I'm from the country,
Speaker 2: but not everybody does that. So I had went on
Speaker 2: and later that day, because I had got off of work,
Speaker 2: I contacted my wife. I contacted another friend of mine
Speaker 2: maybe two three people sent the pictures to him and
Speaker 2: said I got to go back and cast them. So
Speaker 2: that is one of the castings that I did send
Speaker 2: you where I found all the prints and it turned
Speaker 2: out pretty good. And anyway, so a couple of days
Speaker 2: go by and we're in Richards, Texas. Now this is
Speaker 2: that I found kind of strange and very interesting. So
Speaker 2: it is a turned into a big power line easement
Speaker 2: that was running with the pipeline. And now I hear
Speaker 2: a lot about that as being a traveled thoroughfare, so
Speaker 2: I paid a lot of attention. And as I'm going
Speaker 2: down through there, cutting in a big brushog, we come
Speaker 2: upon some white spots in the grass. We stop get
Speaker 2: out to investigate because I got guys that are in
Speaker 2: front of me on weed eaters cutting around stuff, and
Speaker 2: they come behind me and everything I missed they take
Speaker 2: care of anyways, and ended up being some pig skulls,
Speaker 2: some very big pig skulls. I didn't send you the pictures,
Speaker 2: but I have them. And what we found next to them,
Speaker 2: what it looked like they was turned inside out. The
Speaker 2: hide was pulled off, laid on the ground, and the
Speaker 2: skulls was right there next to them, and these things
Speaker 2: was pit clean. There was you know, like maybe one
Speaker 2: or two little hairs and some meat on the skull. Now,
Speaker 2: I don't know if a hunter is gonna sit there
Speaker 2: and take that kind of time and do that. Now
Speaker 2: you're gonna a hunter, it may you know, go ahead
Speaker 2: and gut it and leave everything there and then take
Speaker 2: the hog down, you know, and finish processing it. So
Speaker 2: I found it really strange. I actually have the skull
Speaker 2: here at my house with my guys running around with
Speaker 2: it on the front of the side beside buggy the
Speaker 2: whole time we was cutting the rest of the popeline.
Speaker 1: And I feel like it was like a hunting area
Speaker 1: for the sasquatch.
Speaker 2: Well that's what I was gonna get to, uh, definitely.
Speaker 2: So because as we come out out of that area
Speaker 2: to cross over a road, we noticed going down through
Speaker 2: there if we come upon a ranch, and at beginning
Speaker 2: of this ranch on this driveway, the guy had a
Speaker 2: big shadow figure of sasquatch. So maybe he has some
Speaker 2: you know knowledge, maybe he knows something's there. Because it
Speaker 2: is bottom lands. Big Creek run right through it, so
Speaker 2: I could see it being a very good area. It
Speaker 2: was his hunt and least also I send deer feeders
Speaker 2: out there, so very promising.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always said the sasquatch control of the hog population.
Speaker 1: I feel like they would. Those things breed like rabbits,
Speaker 1: and I here in Texas they're kind of getting out.
Speaker 2: Of control there. Correct, correct, Yes, they are. I think
Speaker 2: they can have you know, up to a dozen at
Speaker 2: a time, it's crazy. And they can mate you know,
Speaker 2: several times a year, kind of like rabbits.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that would be an excellent food source for
Speaker 1: the squatch. And I've also noticed that too. All these
Speaker 1: areas that have hogs have sasquatch activity.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean who doesn't like bacon? I do every
Speaker 2: morning almost Yeah, yeah, same here.
Speaker 1: And if I was out in the woods trying to survive,
Speaker 1: I'd definitely be on my on my hit list would
Speaker 1: be whitetail hogs, turkeys, and yeah, there's plenty of that
Speaker 1: in Texas. Now, do you guys have exotic game right,
Speaker 1: things that have gotten out of like the game ranches?
Speaker 2: Do you? Correct? In the areas, I think it's more
Speaker 2: South Texas compared to where I'm at. But yes, there
Speaker 2: has been I know guys even it was raising wolves
Speaker 2: out here, like a hybrid wolf, and some storms had
Speaker 2: come in, you know, tree fell across the fence and
Speaker 2: they got out. There's reports of them, I don't know,
Speaker 2: several years ago, but haven't heard of anything lately, so
Speaker 2: I mean anything more than that exotics? She really besides
Speaker 2: the girafte that got loose down here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wild. What else has happened?
Speaker 2: All right? Well, there's an area that we go to
Speaker 2: in the same Houston National Forest. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: give the name. We call it Monkey Pond, and for
Speaker 2: good reason, it's actually a West Gurmer area from what
Speaker 2: I understand, used to be one of his hot spots.
Speaker 2: I've tried to contact him to actually acknowledge that, to
Speaker 2: find out, but he hasn't accepted my request. So, but
Speaker 2: we went to this area, if we've been there several
Speaker 2: several times. I went out there with a buddy of mine,
Speaker 2: Kevin Kevin Norad, and went out there with my wife
Speaker 2: and we was out on a big group thing again
Speaker 2: and some of the guys had went to one side
Speaker 2: and meet Kevin and my wife. We went on down
Speaker 2: to another area. We were setting closer to a I say,
Speaker 2: like a little creek and there's lots of trees around it.
Speaker 2: He had a shotgun with him and which I don't
Speaker 2: always carry firearms, but just for protection. He had a
Speaker 2: little game caller, you know, one of those audio game callers,
Speaker 2: kind of like what you have. And we were sitting
Speaker 2: there and he said, well, I'm gonna go ahead and
Speaker 2: let's play the hog in distress basically like you know,
Speaker 2: hogs being killed. So we played it once or twice.
Speaker 2: Really nothing happened, and we were sitting there and I
Speaker 2: think I made a call and we decided to go
Speaker 2: ahead and play his call again. And when we did,
Speaker 2: there was a tree that come crashing down boom, and
Speaker 2: I just looked at him. We kind of looked at
Speaker 2: one another, put our backs against this big pine tree.
Speaker 2: You know. We could just sit there and just look
Speaker 2: at one another, shake our heads. We didn't really think
Speaker 2: nothing of it. But as time passed, it was like
Speaker 2: another tree fell, and later on another one, and the
Speaker 2: only thing we could think of, or me I could
Speaker 2: think of, is rotten trees in the area. And it
Speaker 2: was around us because we was making he was making
Speaker 2: them calls, and there was letting us know it was there.
Speaker 2: It was pushing down trees left and right like crazy.
Speaker 2: And why none of us really snapped what was going on,
Speaker 2: I don't know. But another part of the group, with
Speaker 2: Shane in them further off, they actually, I believe, caught
Speaker 2: a little bit of flear. They said they had a
Speaker 2: little bit of action going on. I think they called
Speaker 2: a little bit of audio that night.
Speaker 1: Also, Yeah, that sounds like classic Bigfoot activity. And they
Speaker 1: were definitely being territorial and reacting to the vocalizations that
Speaker 1: you guys played, and your mind will instantly gravitate towards Oh,
Speaker 1: that must be rotten trees, or you try to explain
Speaker 1: it in your mind, But after you experienced more than one,
Speaker 1: you know that's not a coincidence anymore, especially if there's
Speaker 1: not strong winds and it didn't just rain or freeze.
Speaker 1: I don't know, was it wendy at all when that happened.
Speaker 2: It was dead still that night. Yeah. See that says
Speaker 2: a lot, you know, along along with another tree incident
Speaker 2: that I wanted to talk about. I had a buddy mine,
Speaker 2: boyd Simms, he was I want to say suicidal put
Speaker 2: it lightly, and he decided to because he had run off.
Speaker 2: His mom had died, He got run off from his family.
Speaker 2: He was going through some things, some withdrawals. So my
Speaker 2: buddy took and had kind of left him out there
Speaker 2: where we call monkey pawn. He had talked about trying
Speaker 2: to shoot one, you know, several years ago. He was
Speaker 2: just trying to have some experiences. I don't even know
Speaker 2: if he had a gun with him then, but he
Speaker 2: had been out there this dead heat of summer. He
Speaker 2: had been out there for a week or so, and
Speaker 2: I was showing up in my ice talking to him,
Speaker 2: you know, especially after I heard what was going on,
Speaker 2: and me and the wife decided we're going to come
Speaker 2: out there one night, and I was going to cook burgers.
Speaker 2: It's dark, you know, because I'm doing it after work.
Speaker 2: So I cook some little burgers on the grill. We're
Speaker 2: all sitting there and we're talking and bull crapping, and
Speaker 2: he's looking at me and I'm looking at him and
Speaker 2: I said, did you hear that? He's like, what are
Speaker 2: you hearing? I said, it sounds really to me like
Speaker 2: a samurai chatter. But they're going off with the frogs
Speaker 2: he said, I'm hearing it. I said, I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe we're just crazy. So we just kind of laughed off.
Speaker 2: He says, I got a recorder going on. But what
Speaker 2: I need to back up and tell you before I
Speaker 2: jumped to it is that the tree incident. So my buddy,
Speaker 2: Kevin and Becky was up there with him at the
Speaker 2: very same spot and there was a storm and through there.
Speaker 2: So my buddy had jumped in the truck with him
Speaker 2: and they're all sitting in the truck and they're facing
Speaker 2: this pond, and all of a sudden they heard a
Speaker 2: loud crash and directly behind their truck was a huge
Speaker 2: oak tree that had fell down. Massive it would come
Speaker 2: within inches of hitting the truck. It could have if
Speaker 2: the tailgate was down, it would have hit it. So
Speaker 2: they had to cut their way out. And THEYD called
Speaker 2: me about it for help, but I was I was working.
Speaker 2: But anyways, back to what was going on. We had
Speaker 2: finished cooking and we were sitting there. We heard the
Speaker 2: noiseness and so as we're hearing that, I hear a holler.
Speaker 2: Now it sounded more like a greyhound owl, a gray
Speaker 2: I want to say. Uh. Anyways, it sounded like an owl,
Speaker 2: but the owl at the end hould It's the first
Speaker 2: time ever heard it. Yeah, it was crazy. I sent
Speaker 2: you something similar from the same area. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: It held like a like a canine towards the end.
Speaker 2: Yes, at first it was, and then it howled. It's
Speaker 2: crazy telling people that.
Speaker 1: But yes, the one, the one I heard, it was
Speaker 1: like a gray horned owl and they were hooting back
Speaker 1: and forth across the rivers or across the river, and
Speaker 1: it it hooted and then it barked like a rottweiler.
Speaker 2: No joke.
Speaker 1: It came from that owl, and I've never heard anything
Speaker 1: like that. I was the one thing I could think
Speaker 1: was that that had a been sasquatch. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. It sounded like a rotweiler.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Well it let us know basically that. Well,
Speaker 2: it did a little how after that, it let us
Speaker 2: know it's there. Clearly it was breaking limbs and could
Speaker 2: hear it coming towards us. So we're in pitch pitch dark,
Speaker 2: you know, even though there was very little moonlight, it's
Speaker 2: really dark and thick out there. So I pulled my
Speaker 2: wife over behind me because she was immediately already on edge,
Speaker 2: my buddy boy standing right next to me, and it
Speaker 2: kept coming, making noise the whole way, and then as
Speaker 2: it got closer, the tree moved. Now that we were
Speaker 2: talking about a massive, massive oak tree, and this thing
Speaker 2: had been laid down for a week, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, the whole tree went downwards, and we all
Speaker 2: freaked out, Oh my god, you know, what the hell?
Speaker 2: And it continued doing some breaks, and we put a
Speaker 2: light over there. We couldn't see anything. Everything we was
Speaker 2: trying to see, we could not see anything. We were
Speaker 2: still on edge. And for some reason, because I guess
Speaker 2: we was just freaking out, I pulled out my car keys.
Speaker 2: My truck was parked up almost next to the tree,
Speaker 2: and I hit my alarm button and all I did
Speaker 2: was like a flash of lights and from them everything ceased.
Speaker 2: Now I kind of regret that because that was a
Speaker 2: pretty close encounter. Did we see anything, No, we heard
Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff. Do we think we know what
Speaker 2: it was? Yeah? What else can move a tree like that,
Speaker 2: you know, especially a large large oak tree, and move
Speaker 2: you know, something upwards over one thousand pounds or at
Speaker 2: least a thousand pounds easily. No human would have stepped
Speaker 2: on it and moved it and then after laying there
Speaker 2: for a week, So it was definitely terrifying, scared us.
Speaker 2: My wife would not go back to that spot. We went,
Speaker 2: didn't actually go back for at least a year, and
Speaker 2: we've been back in there since.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to remember that in case things get
Speaker 1: really hairy to hit the car alarm.
Speaker 2: It kind of upsessed me now that I did it.
Speaker 2: I wish I feel like everything would have went a
Speaker 2: little longer. But I ended up telling my buddy Stephen
Speaker 2: Kitchens about it, and since that was his cousin boyd,
Speaker 2: he decided he wanted to come out there and have
Speaker 2: a little experience with us. Excuse me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So in Texas, there's a lot of pine trees.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, a lot of pine trees, more pines and oaks.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's prime habitat for the Sasquatch. And it's the
Speaker 1: same way here in Missouri. Like there's a ton of oaks.
Speaker 1: But I've noticed a lot of Sasquatch activity is where
Speaker 1: there's pine thickets at and if you go a lot
Speaker 1: of mors. Yeah, like up north, they got a lot
Speaker 1: of cear trees, a lot of spruce trees, and the
Speaker 1: sasquatch love that stuff.
Speaker 2: Correct, especially the old growth, and that's primarily in this
Speaker 2: pond is in a very old growth area.
Speaker 1: M I think they like to hide in the conn
Speaker 1: for trees. They don't lose their needles when winter comes.
Speaker 1: They stay thick. And even in the daytime when you
Speaker 1: look into there, it's just it looks dark. You can't
Speaker 1: really see into it.
Speaker 2: Correct. And you know, the needles they provide a good bed.
Speaker 2: I also hear about them, you know, eating I guess
Speaker 2: off the pine cones, you know, kind of like a squirrel.
Speaker 2: I guess there's nutrients in them. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, And I feel like they love it.
Speaker 1: So if you cut down the pine thickets, you might
Speaker 1: start experiencing sasquatch activity because it might take.
Speaker 2: Them off correct. Correct.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, so that big tree fell when you said
Speaker 1: if the tailgate would have been down, it would have
Speaker 1: hit the truck. Can you imagine if it did land
Speaker 1: on the truck doing.
Speaker 2: All man It shook them pretty good. They were actually
Speaker 2: rattled by the whole experience enough. I think called like, hey,
Speaker 2: we need help getting out of here, because we're on
Speaker 2: this trail by the pond, and there's one way in,
Speaker 2: one way out unless you got a really good food
Speaker 2: drive and don't mind scratchers. Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: That's a big fear of mine to drive down a
Speaker 1: forest service road, deep deep in the woods and these
Speaker 1: things push over huge trees in front of your vehicle
Speaker 1: and behind your vehicle, especially if you don't have a chainsaw.
Speaker 1: Correct trapped, Yeah, you would be trapped. You'd have to
Speaker 1: go on foot. And if that happened at nighttime, scary.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I mean, I know you go out at night,
Speaker 2: you do go by yourself sometimes, and uh, I haven't
Speaker 2: done it a whole lot. Every time it seems like
Speaker 2: I try to, something happens, work calls, you know, different things.
Speaker 2: So I'll tell you what. Definitely got to have some
Speaker 2: big balls excuse me to go out in the forest
Speaker 2: at night, especially when you know these things are out there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. I prefer to go out during
Speaker 1: the day. I mean, a lot of people say sasquatch
Speaker 1: is more active at nighttime and you're more likely to
Speaker 1: see one. I disagree. All my encounters were during the day,
Speaker 1: the middle of the day. All the people I've interviewed
Speaker 1: I'd say ninety five percent of the people I interview
Speaker 1: have a daytime sighting, so I feel like you got
Speaker 1: a better chance at seeing them during daylight hours. You
Speaker 1: can't see nothing at night, and if things go south,
Speaker 1: you're in the dark.
Speaker 2: I'd rather be during the daylight, especially when it goes south,
Speaker 2: for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I want to be able to see it, like correct,
Speaker 1: see details, not just I don't know, experience something in
Speaker 1: the darkness and be like, oh, I heard something big.
Speaker 1: I think it was a sasquatch. I'm not really sure which.
Speaker 1: There are those encounters on my channel where it was
Speaker 1: a full moon or a bright moon and you can
Speaker 1: see outside, and I know you've experienced it too. When
Speaker 1: the moon's out, it's like somebody's got a light bulb
Speaker 1: on outside. You can see pretty good.
Speaker 2: Correct, And you know, especially right now, whether it be
Speaker 2: in dead heat or the summer, it's hard to go
Speaker 2: out during the day because it's so hot. I'm lucky
Speaker 2: with my job, you know, I'm out in it a lot,
Speaker 2: so I kind of, you know, stay used to it.
Speaker 2: I will move around during the day, I will go
Speaker 2: out during day, but most of my signings will encounters
Speaker 2: have been at night. I've never had a signing.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, so you've had more experiences at night time, yes, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of people say that. For me,
Speaker 1: it's the opposite. But I don't discount people's experiences. And
Speaker 1: I mean most animals are more active at night, whether
Speaker 1: it's a deer, I mean, all wildlife, so it totally
Speaker 1: makes sense. But yeah, going out right now during the night,
Speaker 1: it's sketchy with with all the tics and snakes coming
Speaker 1: out at night. You just can't see. And I'm just like,
Speaker 1: oh man, that's what I have. To get a big
Speaker 1: tick on me somewhere and me have no idea till
Speaker 1: the next day.
Speaker 2: I've had to tick on me and had no idea
Speaker 2: to the next day. I had to pull one on
Speaker 2: my belly button, so I fully concur.
Speaker 1: Yeah before it, I mean it wouldn't bother me. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've always hated ticks, but now with all these tick
Speaker 1: diseases and people going to the hospital, I'm just like
Speaker 1: really leary about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like to eat my steak. I like to
Speaker 2: eat my meat, so I would rather not get bit
Speaker 2: by tick right now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Somebody asked me in the comments, do you think the
Speaker 1: lime disease alpha gal would affect the sasquatch, and can
Speaker 1: they get it? I said, probably not. I mean I
Speaker 1: feel like they're immune to it. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: dogs can get lime disease, so maybe if they're human, like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure they can get lime disease, but I feel
Speaker 1: like their immune system is much more superior than ours.
Speaker 1: Like they can eat an animal that's been rotten for
Speaker 1: like two weeks and not have an issue with it.
Speaker 2: Yes, I fully believe that too. I mean, their gut
Speaker 2: just got to be you know, still compared to ours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's gotta be like different enzymes in there that
Speaker 1: fight off bacteria to where ours, like we would die
Speaker 1: if we ate something like that.
Speaker 2: Well, just like a dog. You know, a dog can
Speaker 2: eat certain foods, a dog can have dirt hair and
Speaker 2: they slavitate enough you know, it gets it all out.
Speaker 2: So it's it's probably the same thing swatch. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: Let's see, you're fine if you gotta, if you got
Speaker 1: a cop to, you can hit the little microphone button.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can see it, yeah, down
Speaker 1: there where, I don't know if you can see it.
Speaker 2: No, I can't see it. Yeah, I can meet you though.
Speaker 2: Now I'm good. I have allergies, so.
Speaker 1: It's all right, doesn't bother me. Let's see what else
Speaker 1: have you experienced. It seems like most of the things
Speaker 1: you've experienced are around the sam Houston area. And what
Speaker 1: was the lake that you mentioned earlier?
Speaker 2: Well, we call it Monkey Pond. No, the other lake.
Speaker 1: It started with the sea, Oh Lake Conra, Yes, Andre,
Speaker 1: I've had people talk about that lake on my channel.
Speaker 1: The Sabine River, Conra Lake and sam Houston National Forest
Speaker 1: that seems to be really good areas for Sasquattra activity.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the Sabine River is out in what area
Speaker 2: is that called? I just hid on earlier, But anyways,
Speaker 2: it's out in another area. We do go out there
Speaker 2: from time to time, but primarily because that's further away,
Speaker 2: I go a little closer to the house. Sam Houston
Speaker 2: has never let me down, so that's where you know,
Speaker 2: it's just basically across the street from me there's National Forest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Texas is absolutely huge. They say Missouri is the
Speaker 1: size of Germany, so I can't imagine how big Texas is.
Speaker 2: Well, I know, for me to go from my house
Speaker 2: to the border takes around five hours, and that's that's
Speaker 2: close to Mexico. So you know, I can leave from here.
Speaker 2: In a couple wires, I could be in Arkansas, you know,
Speaker 2: So a couple wires, I could be up there to you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I've heard stories where Border Border Patrol agents have ran
Speaker 1: into the Sasquatch and apparently they got like squads down
Speaker 1: there where they eliminate cryptids. I've personally spoke to somebody
Speaker 1: who was really credible. I can't say who it is,
Speaker 1: but he said he used to work for that team,
Speaker 1: and he told me that they would when they'd run
Speaker 1: into these cryptids, that they would in the legs first,
Speaker 1: in the knee caps. He said, you can't hit them
Speaker 1: here because you got to shoot them in the legs first,
Speaker 1: the kneecaps and then one.
Speaker 2: Here are moving so fast, that's how yeah down?
Speaker 1: What do you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What do you? Explained?
Speaker 1: Was they have so much muscle and cartilage in their
Speaker 1: legs that when you when you put one in there,
Speaker 1: it really slows down.
Speaker 2: I could understand that. Yes, yeah, it's crazy as it sounds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go for the lugs first. Yeah, Okay, what else
Speaker 1: have you experienced?
Speaker 2: Well, There was another time that we had some stuff happening.
Speaker 2: We went up to a little campsite. It's up close
Speaker 2: to Livingston area, and we were out there, a couple
Speaker 2: of us, my buddy Kevin Becky, his wife, and my
Speaker 2: wife and Chane. We were all out and it was
Speaker 2: light rains and so we was kind of hunked underneath
Speaker 2: a little canopy, a little fire going, and often a
Speaker 2: distance we heard what we call a cow bell, and
Speaker 2: it was crazy because we're in the woods. There's no
Speaker 2: cows around, so we just all kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: blewed off. Didn't think a lot of it. Later on
Speaker 2: that night, I'd walked down this little walkway to go
Speaker 2: use a restroom. As I'm out there using a restroom,
Speaker 2: they sound like something setting there. I wouldn't say it
Speaker 2: was wood on wood, but it was like tapping, almost
Speaker 2: like rock clacks. It was just tat tat, tat, tap,
Speaker 2: tat tap. It's kind of tripping me out because I'm
Speaker 2: in the dark out there, you know, all by myself
Speaker 2: hearing these things. And about the time I called them,
Speaker 2: I said, hey, y'all come over here, y'all come hear this.
Speaker 2: And they get out there and they don't hear anything.
Speaker 2: They just think I'm nuts. So it was kind of
Speaker 2: a little funny ordeal. But you know, we did hear
Speaker 2: the cow bell. Nothing happened that night, you know, but
Speaker 2: just hearing strange things around the woods.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is strange. Did you ever find a bell
Speaker 1: out there?
Speaker 2: Never found a bell out there. We walked the area.
Speaker 2: We actually had another guy come up out of the area.
Speaker 2: They said they was chasing the deer and they was
Speaker 2: trying to find and we asked him to said, hey,
Speaker 2: was you out last night at any time? Did you,
Speaker 2: you know, have a cow bell or anything? Said no, no,
Speaker 2: You know, we talked to him about Bigfoot because I
Speaker 2: believe it's on my buddy's shirt, and he told us
Speaker 2: I'm off the wall story that was kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: Basically that, uh, he think that Bigfoot. He was riding
Speaker 2: the three fuller and you think that Bigfoot through a
Speaker 2: squirrel at him and knocked him off his fuller. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't put too much into it. I
Speaker 2: just thought it was kind of funny, but it's a possibility. Possibility.
Speaker 1: Yes, Well, when it happens to you, you'll look back
Speaker 1: at that story and be like he was telling the truth.
Speaker 2: I tell you, what if I get knocked down by
Speaker 2: a squirrel hitting me in the back, yeah, definitely gonna be.
Speaker 1: A little worried, right, Yeah, absolutely. And so what else unfolding, Well, just.
Speaker 2: Not long ago, me and wife we went back to
Speaker 2: this pond area. Took my buddy in there with us.
Speaker 2: He had been drinking a little bit, but you know,
Speaker 2: he wont day, but you take me out. I want
Speaker 2: to do this whole bigfoot thing with you. It's like, hey,
Speaker 2: come on, you know, a long time friend. And so
Speaker 2: we're walking and maybe about four or five hundred yards
Speaker 2: from this gate into the national forest, we run across
Speaker 2: a really massive X. I did put that on my
Speaker 2: YouTube channel. I know, I hadn't told anybody about it
Speaker 2: here on this just channel besides you. It's really neat.
Speaker 2: It was very intertwined, lots of stuff in it. I
Speaker 2: should have put a little bit more footage and time
Speaker 2: into it and did a little bit more investigation on it,
Speaker 2: but we decided to press on into the pond. We
Speaker 2: were there maybe two three hours, you know, doing a
Speaker 2: little call. Also the wood knocks. We heard some faint
Speaker 2: coyotes far far off in the distance. I was running
Speaker 2: recorder and it was out on the dock of this
Speaker 2: little pond, so it picks up a lot of frogs,
Speaker 2: a lot of crickets. My wife had decided to go
Speaker 2: out on this little dock. She's got this little back
Speaker 2: to a wood knocker, and this time she'd decided to
Speaker 2: do the knock since I was getting no responses. And
Speaker 2: when she did the knox, she got a response and
Speaker 2: it scared scared her pretty good. I heard the response,
Speaker 2: you know, and she come back to me and you
Speaker 2: could read it in the video. You can tell where
Speaker 2: she says, I'm ready to go now, and it just
Speaker 2: brung her back to the time before out there we
Speaker 2: had had our incident. So yeah, really about the last
Speaker 2: thing to happen. It stayed pretty quiet for the rest
Speaker 2: of the night and and we just decided to get
Speaker 2: out of there. It's probably one of the areas that
Speaker 2: I may even go back tonight. Yeah, it sounds like
Speaker 2: a good area.
Speaker 1: Now. You were on the TV show searching for Sasquatch
Speaker 1: on YouTube or on TV? Is that correct?
Speaker 2: Yes? With Jason Kinzie.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, okay, Yeah, I've watched the show a few
Speaker 1: times and it seems pretty interesting.
Speaker 2: Oh, Wow, Okay, I could talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 2: I do have some of the footage myself the night
Speaker 2: with Jason and the sheet Squatchers. I have that video.
Speaker 2: I have not put it out because he has not
Speaker 2: finished his end of the deal. Also, I guess he
Speaker 2: is still traveling like always, so I'm hoping that he'll
Speaker 2: put his video out here pretty soon. My buddy Shane
Speaker 2: invited me out. Was going out to the river. He says, Hey,
Speaker 2: we're going to camp up river off grid. Bring everything
Speaker 2: you can just fit in this boat, and uh, we're
Speaker 2: gonna go off grid up river. So all right, let's
Speaker 2: do it. So it's on a Friday night, that's always
Speaker 2: pretty much a weekend. He was out there, I think
Speaker 2: maybe the night before me, or maybe the same night. Anyways,
Speaker 2: so we go, we put up camp, and we decided
Speaker 2: to you know, venture up river all the way as
Speaker 2: far as we go. We were trying to come up
Speaker 2: behind a big game ranch that was there, and because
Speaker 2: we've heard stuff out in that area. And so as
Speaker 2: we're going we get out there, he said, hey, up
Speaker 2: here in this pipeline, you see that tent. We was
Speaker 2: wanting to come out on the pipeline. We wanting to
Speaker 2: check the pipeline because it's one of the incidents is
Speaker 2: where we've had whoops come from. So as we're out there,
Speaker 2: we check out the tent and we've seen that it
Speaker 2: was left. It was a really nice tint. It was
Speaker 2: like one left in a hurry. We didn't fully understand it,
Speaker 2: but there is a rancher nearby, so maybe he got
Speaker 2: run off, maybe he was using it for a hunt
Speaker 2: and blind I wouldn't see that, but no, less it
Speaker 2: was left there. So after investigating it, we decided to
Speaker 2: go on the boat and we went down river just
Speaker 2: a little bit further and we put up on the
Speaker 2: bank and as we're going in, I happened to notice
Speaker 2: on the side of me it looked like a bunch
Speaker 2: of palmettos on the ground. And as I started looking
Speaker 2: at it and investigating it, I called my buddy Shane
Speaker 2: over there and said, hey, look man, what is this?
Speaker 2: It said, this looks like a bed. He's like, no way.
Speaker 2: So as he gets investigating it, I started recording and
Speaker 2: recorded the whole deal. Basically, what it looked like is,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe a juvenile had been laying there. It
Speaker 2: was a pretty good sized spot we investigate pretty good.
Speaker 2: We decided to look for more and as we started
Speaker 2: looking around, we found some bigger ones. We've found some
Speaker 2: smaller ones. And I recorded, you know, pretty much every
Speaker 2: bit of it and put it on my YouTube. He
Speaker 2: had told me, he said, look, you know, now we
Speaker 2: got this, I'm gonna send this to Jason and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get him to come down here and we're gonna
Speaker 2: do the whole thing and put it on video. And
Speaker 2: so that that's fine. So Jason came out and we
Speaker 2: put it all on video and hopefully, you know, that'll
Speaker 2: be coming out pretty soon for everybody to see. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And you sent me some photos of it. It definitely
Speaker 1: looks like big beds. I don't know what what would
Speaker 1: do that other than squad or humans.
Speaker 2: Something with definitely with opposing fingers, you know. I don't
Speaker 2: hear if any other animals that would set there and
Speaker 2: tear apart a palmeto bush to use it just lay on. Now.
Speaker 2: I would if I'm out out in the woods and
Speaker 2: I'm cold, I want to get myself up off the ground,
Speaker 2: Sure that's something I would do. But right next to
Speaker 2: the creek where you know people's coming down through there
Speaker 2: and little bitty boats or kayaks because it's not exactly
Speaker 2: accessible by big boats. So you know, definitely some spot
Speaker 2: that gets set their watts or even hunt because the
Speaker 2: palmettos that we were going through that were probably five
Speaker 2: five and high foot almost six foot tall. Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an extraordinary fine and I'm glad you recorded.
Speaker 1: A lot of people find things like that and they
Speaker 1: don't even think of recording it or documenting it, so
Speaker 1: kudos to you for doing that.
Speaker 2: Well, there is a lot of things that I've caught
Speaker 2: and found in the past and hadn't always put on recording,
Speaker 2: and I've started trying to put a lot of that
Speaker 2: into my YouTube channel, where I'd never have before.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure, I've done the same. Is there
Speaker 1: anything else you want to share?
Speaker 2: No, not that I could think of right this second.
Speaker 2: I'm sure something will come up, you know, after we
Speaker 2: get through talking, I'm sure I'll probably say, man, I
Speaker 2: should have talked to him about this. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: So what's your conclusion about the sasquatch migrating through North America?
Speaker 1: Do you think the ones in Texas are migrating maybe
Speaker 1: from like all the way up from New York through
Speaker 1: like Pennsylvania, Kentucky coming down in Texas. What are your
Speaker 1: thoughts about the.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. If you look at the maps,
Speaker 2: you can clearly say like a I would say, like
Speaker 2: a trail or path where they all have kind of
Speaker 2: settled or been, so I wouldn't doubt it. To me,
Speaker 2: I feel like they travel, you know, like I talked
Speaker 2: about earlier pipelines, power line rideways. It's easy of access.
Speaker 2: You know, it's easy for us humans to get through
Speaker 2: there and avoid everything. I mean you have to go
Speaker 2: through some fence, some gates, but you know, I'm sure
Speaker 2: they hop right over it. I would see them traveling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I think there's homebodies and travelers.
Speaker 1: And I feel like they're very similar to the Native Americans,
Speaker 1: like they'll definitely settle in an area, but once they
Speaker 1: deplete the resources, they move somewhere else.
Speaker 2: Correct. What is that? Oklahoma? They did that investigation where
Speaker 2: they tagged one and it shows that there's basically you know,
Speaker 2: three areas that'll move. I guess the seasons fall into food.
Speaker 2: I could see that. There's times we go to sam
Speaker 2: Houston it's like totally dead. You don't hear coyotes, you
Speaker 2: don't hear anything, and other times you go back and
Speaker 2: hear it, so I feel they do move around. Yes,
Speaker 2: I mean i'd have to chase my food fills out
Speaker 2: there too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. I've noticed that in a lot
Speaker 1: of my area. Sometimes it's dead, there ain't nothing going on,
Speaker 1: not even deer coyotes, And then other times I'll go
Speaker 1: back and there's wildlife all over the place. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it goes both ways. Like if you see a lot
Speaker 1: of deer, a lot of turkeys in an area, you'll
Speaker 1: experience activity. But sometimes I've also noticed when there's no
Speaker 1: animals around, no bugs, nothing, sometimes they're they're there as well.
Speaker 2: It cracked, just like that night at the pond where
Speaker 2: we had our little encounter. Once everything started, it was
Speaker 2: dead quiet. You could hear a pin drop in that forest.
Speaker 2: It was just crazy, you know, It's just it was
Speaker 2: the eerie silence where almost your ears would hurt trying to,
Speaker 2: you know, hear he was looking for that next footstep.
Speaker 2: We couldn't hear it walking. It's just crazy. And you know,
Speaker 2: as big as this thing was, why couldn't we see it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was dark. Yeah, we're in the forest. We put
Speaker 2: a light out there, we still couldn't see anything. You know,
Speaker 2: inter dimensional, That's the way I feel. Yeah, you never know.
Speaker 1: And what time of year in Texas have you noticed
Speaker 1: the most activity.
Speaker 2: Well, that encounter happened in a vicious heat wave we had.
Speaker 2: I mean it was probably over one hundred degrees that year,
Speaker 2: so even in the heat, they moved just as well
Speaker 2: as wintertime. You know. My buddy boy told me about
Speaker 2: when there was a tropical storm coming and he was
Speaker 2: out at the camp area. It was raining, been raining
Speaker 2: for days, and then it was like the squatch surrounded
Speaker 2: him was hollering, making all kinds of noises, either warning
Speaker 2: him that something was going on or it is because
Speaker 2: they're being pushed out of their area. He said, it
Speaker 2: was so crazy it started driving nuts to where he
Speaker 2: walked out into the middle of the circle of the
Speaker 2: camp site was out there basically hollering and telling them
Speaker 2: to bring it on. You know, like I said, he's
Speaker 2: a little different character. Yeah, we all are in our
Speaker 2: own way.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Roy, you did an excellent job at talking
Speaker 1: about all your experiences, and I really appreciate you taking
Speaker 1: the time to do that.
Speaker 2: What do you put into this door that you're hearing
Speaker 2: closed in the middle of the woods.
Speaker 1: That is still a mystery, and we've theorized that possibly
Speaker 1: it's a portal opening and shutting. That's the only thing
Speaker 1: I can think of that I don't know if that's.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I want to say, that's the most logical
Speaker 1: explanation can I can find? But what's logical about that?
Speaker 1: But I do I feel like these things are using portals.
Speaker 1: But others may say they just migrate or they're really
Speaker 1: good at hiding. I do. I think they migrate and
Speaker 1: they're really good at hiding. But there's still something more
Speaker 1: to it, especially with people seeing all kinds of orbs
Speaker 1: associated with the activity, same timeframe, same place, same day.
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's definitely more to it.
Speaker 2: I would say, either portals or tunnels. You know, you
Speaker 2: hear a lot about underground tunnels. I mean, if excuse me,
Speaker 2: but if a Mexican can dig from one side of
Speaker 2: the border to the next to cross, then why couldn't
Speaker 2: there be tunnels that animals made? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I agree, I've thought about that too, Like the Sasquatch
Speaker 1: move giant, huge rocks that maybe we can't even move
Speaker 1: with machinery. If they work as a group and there's
Speaker 1: tunnels underneath those rocks in the forest, we just don't
Speaker 1: see him because we can't lift up those rocks.
Speaker 2: Well, it's just like the story I remember reading here
Speaker 2: a while back about a little boy that was out,
Speaker 2: you know, by hisself, playing around and he kept seeing
Speaker 2: this little kid, and this little kid would come talk
Speaker 2: to him and they would have a little interaction, and
Speaker 2: then the kid said he had to go back home,
Speaker 2: and he went into a hole. And then eventually the
Speaker 2: little boy followed him, and you know he was He
Speaker 2: took him off in this little room where they had toys,
Speaker 2: and yet he was underground, and he said he had
Speaker 2: to hide, you know, from the big one nor his
Speaker 2: parents with him. I don't know if you've ever heard
Speaker 2: of you need to or read anything on some of that.
Speaker 2: But then later on the boy come out of there
Speaker 2: after he was fearing for whatever was going to happen
Speaker 2: because the little kid turned evil on me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty wild there, And I've noticed the same
Speaker 1: here in Missouri, at least for me personally, Like I've
Speaker 1: had the most experiences. A bulk of my encounters during
Speaker 1: the hot days of the summertime but there's not very
Speaker 1: many people walking around the woods when it's hot out
Speaker 1: there on the rivers and creeks and stuff, but just
Speaker 1: nasty out in the woods. It's hard to be a
Speaker 1: researcher in the summertime. But that's when the sasquatch thrive
Speaker 1: of it. The forest is thick. There's all kinds of bugs, mushrooms,
Speaker 1: and they can just hide easily.
Speaker 2: Correct, you know, like you said, there's a lot less
Speaker 2: people in the forest when it's hot. Now when it
Speaker 2: comes wintertime, get out of my way, because I'm coming.
Speaker 2: I like the winter camp you know, I'm a bigger guy,
Speaker 2: so it's like air conditioning for me. Yeah, like my campfires,
Speaker 2: and it's it's much easier to move around the woods,
Speaker 2: not so scared of snakes, you know, things like that,
Speaker 2: the mosquitoes. When it's wintertime, mosquitoes go away. A lot
Speaker 2: of your ticks die. So yeah, it makes it a
Speaker 2: lot easier for us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I'm kind of looking forward to the
Speaker 1: fall and the winter time for bigfoot research because right
Speaker 1: now it's just been in pain in the butt.
Speaker 2: Correct. I look forward to again to get this Christmas
Speaker 2: at least, maybe even October I'm probably gonna go out
Speaker 2: in the woods for a week by myself, maybe just
Speaker 2: me and the dog.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well, I wish you nothing but the best.
Speaker 1: Hopefully find some really if you, hopefully if I and
Speaker 1: more good evidence in the future, because you've already found
Speaker 1: some excellent evidence, and maybe you'll lay eyes on one
Speaker 1: and then you'll be back on sasquatch theory for a
Speaker 1: part too. Maybe we'll meet up one day for an investigation.
Speaker 2: That's what I'd like to do. I think more of
Speaker 2: us YouTubers really should come together, you know. I've seen
Speaker 2: you do it already a little bit, you know, with
Speaker 2: half inch Rents group. I do like that there's smaller
Speaker 2: channels out there that could use a little bit of uplift,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I don't know what would be halfway for us.
Speaker 1: I think it'd be like Arkansas.
Speaker 2: Well, even if we didn't have to do that, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't mind going somewhere. I'm not against traveling, always have
Speaker 2: even with my job.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, we'll keep in touch. We'll try to set
Speaker 1: something up. And I appreciate you for logging down your
Speaker 1: reports on sasquatch theory.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, me go well, I just kind of wanted
Speaker 2: to get some of it off my chests. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't have the experiences that other people's had, But
Speaker 2: then again, it lets me talk about it. It never
Speaker 2: hurts to talk about some of the things that's happening.
Speaker 2: A lot of people are scared, but you know, with
Speaker 2: more people coming forward, I think it helps absolutely.
Speaker 1: And where can people find your YouTube channel? What's it called.
Speaker 2: It's called Weekend Warriors.
Speaker 1: Weekend Warriors on YouTube. Check it out. All right, Roy,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. You'd be safe out there in the woods,
Speaker 1: and if you feel like you're in danger, definitely pull out.
Speaker 2: My friend, Yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 1: Miguel yep, thank you, and you take care of yourself
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: Thank you.