WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.560 --> 00:00:03.000 It is a nightcab bat for U. 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:07.679 See basketball on seven hundred WLW. And yes, it's finally time. 3 00:00:08.199 --> 00:00:11.400 I ran out of time last night. Finally time to 4 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:14.199 talk to our friend the wild Man, the sports commando 5 00:00:14.199 --> 00:00:17.679 of the original one, The Billboard Sitter and all of that, 6 00:00:18.600 --> 00:00:22.320 and also the book The wild Man. And he told 7 00:00:22.399 --> 00:00:26.160 me when I ran out of time last night, he said, Man, 8 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:29.399 I got four hot takes for you. I've been thinking 9 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:32.600 about this all weekend. It's a wild Man. You have 10 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:35.280 the floor. I'm not even going to direct you. Tell 11 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:36.479 me what you're thinking about. 12 00:00:37.479 --> 00:00:40.200 Well, number one, you might not have seen this, but 13 00:00:40.359 --> 00:00:42.479 I remember a guy by the name of Andy Dalton 14 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:45.719 that played for the Bengals. Yeah, well, he signed a 15 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:49.719 two year extension with the Carolina Panthers eight million dollars, 16 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:53.359 six of it guaranteed to be the backup for Bryce 17 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:56.759 Young Andy Dalton at fourteen seasons. 18 00:00:56.799 --> 00:00:58.840 Are you ready for the SGQ? I love this story. 19 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:02.280 Thirty nine dollars and five hundred yards, two hundred and 20 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:06.439 fifty three touchdowns, one hundred and fifty and picks. I mean, 21 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:08.280 he's not gonna be a Hall of Famer, but he 22 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:10.560 has had one hell of a career. He had one 23 00:01:10.599 --> 00:01:12.680 hell of a Bengal career and you could I could 24 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:14.480 be more happy for a guy, you know, to. 25 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:18.439 Stand on the stand on the sidelines and garry clipboard 26 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:21.000 as a backup quarterback. It's a great story. 27 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:24.560 It is all about wins and losses ultimately, and he 28 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:28.000 had some wins. He had his uh uh, well maybe 29 00:01:28.040 --> 00:01:30.480 his share of wins for the talent that he had. 30 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:32.079 But I have a friend who used to call him 31 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:36.000 the statman because, yeah, the stats look great, but what 32 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:40.000 about the results. The red rifle wasn't big on results. 33 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:42.640 He's coming and played well from time to time. And 34 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:46.200 like you said, you cannot deny thirty nine thousand passing 35 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:50.840 yards plus in fourteen seasons, all those touchdowns, but you 36 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:54.799 know you assault him away with the picks too. Not 37 00:01:54.959 --> 00:01:58.519 always the most reliable passer, Andy Dalton. 38 00:01:58.560 --> 00:01:59.719 But it's nice. 39 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:02.640 It's nice that he's getting the cushy retirement gig, you know, 40 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:05.799 two years and six million guaranteed for holding a clipboard. 41 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:07.319 You're right, that's good day. 42 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:10.120 Yeah, and bright and Bryce Young speaks highly of Dalton, 43 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:11.759 is saying that they're on the same page, that he's 44 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:13.400 really been a lot of help and I'll tell you this, 45 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:16.960 as I said here today, the Bengals Ring of Honor, 46 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:19.400 Andy Dalton will be on that Bengals Ring of Honor. 47 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:20.120 You can book it. 48 00:02:20.479 --> 00:02:22.800 Oh okay, well, we'll get a hold of the front 49 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:24.400 office as soon as we get off the phone. 50 00:02:24.439 --> 00:02:24.879 Wild Man. 51 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:27.039 Absolutely, that will that will happen someday. 52 00:02:27.039 --> 00:02:30.759 Of course, you heard about Sheldon Rankins getting released saving 53 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:32.439 the Bengals ten million dollars. 54 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:34.159 So now they've got that money to play. 55 00:02:33.960 --> 00:02:40.199 With to keep Trey Henderson or the Ukseki, the. 56 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:41.120 Tight end, the Koseki. 57 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:43.919 Well, they're gonna they're gonna franchise tag t Higgins, which 58 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:46.120 is you know, I don't know who could complain about 59 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:49.599 this because he gets franchise tagged twenty six million. 60 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:51.240 Oh we're still gonna work it out. 61 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:54.199 Yeah, twenty six million to be franchise tag and they're 62 00:02:54.199 --> 00:02:54.800 gonna sign him. 63 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:57.120 They're gonna work it out. Everybody just relaxed. They're gonna 64 00:02:57.120 --> 00:02:59.159 work it out. You remember, might be one guy they lose, 65 00:02:59.199 --> 00:03:00.159 but they're gonna work it out. 66 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:00.680 Wild Man. 67 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:03.639 You remember the old show, the game show Deal or 68 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:06.439 No Deal with Howary Mandel and you know, yeah, the 69 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:08.960 boss would call down and make an offer, you know, 70 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:12.159 as they were eliminating boxes. How about if your offer 71 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:16.000 was twenty six million to play for one season, I 72 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:19.479 think I would have to say deal, deal me, in 73 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:21.759 no doubt about it. 74 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:23.840 I'd hit that. I'd hit that button really quick, and 75 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:24.319 it's right. 76 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:27.280 And it's not like it's not like we're gonna miss 77 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:28.199 Sheldon Rankins. 78 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:32.439 No, no, I mean, and then obviously there was something more. 79 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:35.000 They just didn't want to reveal what was wrong with 80 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:37.199 the poor guy. And that's just they just didn't work out. 81 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:38.919 And that happens. You know, the Bengals aren't the only 82 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:41.599 team that took flyers on pre agents that didn't work out. 83 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:45.120 How about the New York Yankees res sinding their longtime 84 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:48.560 tradition of no beards and no mustaches. 85 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:51.240 That rule is gone. The Yankees can now. 86 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:53.599 Wear a beard. They now can wear a mustache as 87 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:56.080 long as it's neatly trimmed. And I think that was 88 00:03:56.080 --> 00:04:00.280 a long time coming. I know Holsteinbrenner talked to some 89 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:02.759 of the old guys, talks on the new guys. They're 90 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:04.319 now in the twenty first century, the. 91 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:06.840 New York Yankees. But do not, ever, do not every 92 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:08.879 Yankees put your name on the back of the jerseys. 93 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:09.599 Don't ever do that? 94 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:13.039 Well, I mean you are a you're a stickler for tradition, 95 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:16.399 no doubt about it. That always seemed like a pretty 96 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:20.040 archaic rule. What kind of rules did Marge Shot have 97 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:21.360 for players appearance? 98 00:04:21.399 --> 00:04:22.000 Do you remember? 99 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:25.759 Well, there was no mustaches until Greg Vaughan raised, hell, 100 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:28.079 I mean ever gonna originally have Raleigh Fingers was going 101 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:30.079 to pitch for the Reds and she said, you'll have 102 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:32.279 to shave your mustache. And he said, you shave your 103 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:36.560 result shave mind? Have we never got Raleigh Fingers? No, 104 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:37.839 who was still able to pitch? 105 00:04:37.879 --> 00:04:40.920 Well, you know that would have been one heck of 106 00:04:40.959 --> 00:04:44.839 an addition to the Reds rotation or bullpen. Have Raleigh 107 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:50.000 Fingers back there? Oh yeah, I love that mustache. That's 108 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:55.000 the thing is that is absolutely a work of art 109 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:59.079 when somebody does that kind of mustache wax work on 110 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:00.160 their get u. 111 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:02.839 I mean yeah, and he still I saw him at 112 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:04.920 spring training a couple of years ago out in good Year, 113 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:06.839 and he's still got the ham of bar musk. 114 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:07.959 They got a picture of taking. 115 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:08.160 Him with him. 116 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:11.199 In fact, are there any souvenirs you want? Moe egger 117 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:14.240 to bring you from Goodyear. He's heading there this weekend. 118 00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:17.439 I just talked to him and I didn't know if 119 00:05:17.439 --> 00:05:19.800 there was anything Before he gets out of town. The 120 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:23.079 wild Man would like to see Mo bring back to Cincinnati. 121 00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:26.160 I've got plenty of souvenirs, so may move on real quick. 122 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:29.600 Alex Rodriguez, did you see this? The half court shot 123 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:32.920 at Buckmill University? So it was ten thousand dollars for 124 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:36.560 a student, nothing but net that place what nuts? 125 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:37.800 The place went nuts. 126 00:05:37.879 --> 00:05:40.759 I would rather have the student do it than a celebrity, 127 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:44.639 a professional athlete. But it's still great. It's cool anytime 128 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:46.879 somebody can hit a half quarter. You know, I hit 129 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:51.959 a three quarter a three quarter court shot when I 130 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:54.000 was in the eighth grade. And let me tell you 131 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:57.680 how this happened, wild Man. We're in We're in ge 132 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:02.079 We're in pe class rather in jim one day and 133 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:04.240 where we went to school, the middle school we went to. 134 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:07.480 The girls were on one end of the gym and 135 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:10.199 the guys were on the other. And so we're playing 136 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:12.959 a pickup game half court on our end of the gym, 137 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:17.800 playing basketball, and one of the girls' basketball gets away 138 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:24.720 from them crosses center court and it interrupts me. It 139 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:28.079 almost trips me to the ground while I'm trying to 140 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:31.759 shoot a layup and win this game, and the ball 141 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:32.519 is right there. 142 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:32.959 At my feet. 143 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:36.519 After I almost tripped and bit it went face down 144 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:38.959 on the court, and I just picked that ball up 145 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:41.439 and I didn't even look and I just tossed it 146 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:45.319 to the other end and discussed and nothing. But net 147 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:48.720 I have hit a quarter. I've hit a couple of 148 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:52.560 half court shots too. But I think in those situations 149 00:06:52.959 --> 00:06:55.319 with all the cameras and the lights and all the 150 00:06:55.399 --> 00:07:00.319 crowd there, that adds to the difficulty. I would think 151 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:02.800 in anything like a half court sha, do you. 152 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:05.800 Have any witnesses, the witnesses that can you know, did 153 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:06.639 they can back you up? 154 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:06.879 Well? 155 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:09.839 I mean, is this something you up where you were 156 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:10.519 a sleeping No? 157 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:10.920 No, no. 158 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:14.560 And I've lost touch with all of my schoolmates from 159 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:17.920 them because it was down in Hendersonville, Tennessee, where I 160 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:19.920 was going to where we lived at the time. So no, 161 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:23.319 I probably could get a hold of Tommy gwill or 162 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:27.720 another kid that I played basket, maybe Mark Webby. If 163 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:30.399 those names don't ring a bell, don't be surprised, because 164 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:34.000 I'm really surprised. I remember their names, but they were 165 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:36.560 all there in this gym class. And like I said, 166 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:39.879 as soon as I'm going up, I feel this ball 167 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:42.639 hit my leg and I come down almost on the ball. Yeah, 168 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:47.399 that's not good. And it so it nerved me. It's 169 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:51.199 so just made me so angry that I just picked 170 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:53.319 up the ball that it almost tripped me and just 171 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:55.959 threw it three quarters. It was more than three quid. 172 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:58.079 It was before the free throw line on our end, 173 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:00.959 and it just right down to the other in just 174 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:05.519 a baseball throw. Yeah, wow, obviously, yes, and every but 175 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:07.959 though every everyone cheered wildly. 176 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:10.040 Of course, well I'm sure they did. 177 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:12.439 And then at buck No University, I mean I know, 178 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:15.360 uh uh arok ran over to the guy and then 179 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:17.279 had a big celebration on the side of the court. 180 00:08:17.319 --> 00:08:21.759 But ten thousand dollars my last my last take here. Yeah, Sunday, 181 00:08:21.959 --> 00:08:26.079 Sunday afternoon, forty years to the day that Bob Knight 182 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:29.439 grabbed a chair and sew it across the floor. Yeah, 183 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:32.879 Assembly Hall in Bloomington. What happens They bring out that 184 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:36.559 same chair and Mike Woodson, the coach of Indiana, sat 185 00:08:36.600 --> 00:08:41.240 in that chair, and what happens Indiana beats Purdue. 186 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:42.399 On that day. 187 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:45.000 Now, how do they know? How do they know it 188 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:46.519 was the same chair? Wild Man? 189 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:49.000 Well, a couple of a couple of guys verified that 190 00:08:49.120 --> 00:08:51.240 it was because when it was he the first time 191 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:54.240 somebody grabbed it. But needless to say, that was a 192 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:56.440 It was a cool moment. And Mike Woodson is sitting 193 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:59.480 in the chair because he's going to be out since 194 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:03.039 the season and that as coach of Indiana. There's rumors 195 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:05.559 that Mick Crotin could end up there. But forty years 196 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:08.720 to the day against Purdue, I remember throwing that chair 197 00:09:08.799 --> 00:09:10.759 across Yeah, I remember the video. 198 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:12.960 I'm pulling it up on my phone right now as 199 00:09:12.960 --> 00:09:14.960 we're talking about. Yeah, it's a great moment. 200 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:15.440 They brought that. 201 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:17.879 I brought the chair out and Mike Woodson set in 202 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:18.879 that chair the whole game. 203 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:20.720 What is wrong? Am I gonna do it one time? 204 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:22.480 What is wrong with that program? 205 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:24.759 Ever since Bobby Knight left, They've had a couple of 206 00:09:25.159 --> 00:09:29.120 forays into the tournament and stuff, but it's just been moribund. 207 00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:32.720 It's been like like what has happened with you see 208 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:34.080 since Bob Huggins. 209 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:37.240 Left, Yeah, robing door and then going nowhere, I know. 210 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:39.320 I mean they brought in Tom Crane was supposed to 211 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:40.039 be the answer, and he. 212 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:41.519 Didn't do any He got run out of down on 213 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:41.919 a rail. 214 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:43.879 Do you think the general do you think the General 215 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:45.480 put a curse on him when he was run out 216 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:46.039 of Indiana? 217 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:49.200 I don't think the General believed in curses. I think 218 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:51.840 he was the guy getting the best out of their ability. 219 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:53.799 All right, wild man, good to talk to you. 220 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:57.519 Or maybe maybe INDI other players have gone woke since 221 00:09:57.559 --> 00:09:59.320 Bob Knight, since Bob Knight left too. 222 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:01.840 You know, he wouldn't have staned. He wouldn't have stood 223 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:03.240 for that nonsense at all. 224 00:10:04.440 --> 00:10:07.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, the General, no way, 225 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:07.720 the General. 226 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:10.360 He wouldn't have stood for tampons in in the men's 227 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:12.879 locker room. But if he had a kid who wasn't 228 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:15.600 living up to their potential, he might have stuffed tampons 229 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:18.639 in their locker There's no question about that. Love. 230 00:10:19.639 --> 00:10:21.600 I got a quick story guy. When they went undefeated 231 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:24.080 in seventy six, I was given in Tarahoa, Indiana. Yeah, 232 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:25.879 and me and my buddy went down to Bloomington to 233 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:27.679 be there that night for the celebration, because we know 234 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:28.720 they were going to beat Michigan. 235 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:29.759 Well, the sports bar. 236 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:31.480 There weren't many of them back in the day, but 237 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:34.080 we knew there was one, and we go there and 238 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:36.279 the game just got started. So we had to kind 239 00:10:36.279 --> 00:10:38.240 of stand in the back to watch the game. But 240 00:10:38.279 --> 00:10:40.200 as it turned out, the TV went on the fritz. 241 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:42.559 Everybody left the bar. I told my buddy, no, no, 242 00:10:42.639 --> 00:10:44.320 let's not let's wait a minute. They'll come back on. 243 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:46.559 Sure enough, the TV came back on. We were right 244 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:50.120 up front. We watched Indiana destroy Michigan. And I'm going 245 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:52.440 to tell you you think the red celebration was big 246 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:56.080 and seventy six on Mountain Square. Man, in Bloomington, the 247 00:10:56.159 --> 00:10:58.559 beer was flowing for free. I don't know how I 248 00:10:58.600 --> 00:10:59.879 got home and how I made it to work. 249 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:03.799 I don't know how it was. It was unbelievable on 250 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:04.919 the streets of Bloomington. 251 00:11:04.919 --> 00:11:07.080 I don't know how you're still alive, wild Man. I'm 252 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:09.600 glad you are still today. 253 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:11.799 The only undefeated team in basketball history. 254 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:15.600 Based no doubt. Yeah, child, brother, I'll talk to you 255 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:16.879 next week, all right. 256 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:19.039 I'll talk to you next week on time this time, 257 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:19.639 all right. 258 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:20.639 All right, see you later. 259 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:23.440 Well, you never know where this road will lead us, 260 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:27.120 especially when the person on the other end of the 261 00:11:27.159 --> 00:11:31.679 line is certifiable. I think I'm not a doctor. I've 262 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:35.759 not examined him, but there were times that he makes 263 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:40.639 me really, really wonder why he is not under a 264 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:43.879 physician's care. Of course, I'm speaking of the one, the 265 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:46.960 only fur Ball, Andy Furman, who was joining us. Now, 266 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:49.200 how nuts are you feeling today? 267 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:50.440 Andy? 268 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:53.039 Feeling today? 269 00:11:53.279 --> 00:11:53.879 How nuts? 270 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:57.440 How nuts are you feeling today? We weren't talking about. 271 00:11:57.279 --> 00:12:00.399 You know, I don't understand you introduced people every single 272 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:03.240 day on your show in a nice manner. With me, 273 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:05.080 you go off on a tangent and I don't know 274 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:07.480 what's positive or negative because I don't know half the 275 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:08.840 words you use, because you know, I'm. 276 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:11.559 Not that smart. You know that. Really, let's reaplain on that. 277 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:14.039 The reason I call you is because I know you 278 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:18.080 are an intelligent, sentient human being, and you are the 279 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:21.159 kind of person that most people would like to have 280 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:22.279 a conversation with. 281 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:23.759 That's why I call you. 282 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:27.679 An Well, thank you so very much. You know, I 283 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:31.360 normally talk about sports, right, and I've made a fairly 284 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:34.799 decent living over the years talking sports either on seven 285 00:12:34.919 --> 00:12:38.919 hundred wlwor on Fox Sports Radio. On the weekends nationally, 286 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:41.039 and I had a morning show there for five years. 287 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:43.320 We did the morning show with my buddy Mike North 288 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.399 from Chicago on the Morning Show. But and the funny 289 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:49.279 thing is like right now, I look at sports and 290 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:52.840 I hate to be philosophical, but it's a diversion. It 291 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:56.120 takes people away from their normal problems in life, so 292 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:59.000 be it maybe bills or health problems, wherever it may be, 293 00:12:59.440 --> 00:13:01.360 and we could make our emotions and put them in 294 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:04.000 a different area, in a positive vein. And I think 295 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:06.000 it's great. I think that's great for sports. I mean, 296 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:08.679 obviously gambling is another area where people really get involved 297 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:11.399 with gambling and sports. But you know, when I see 298 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:15.039 what's happening right now, you know it's having Lincoln Heights. 299 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:17.200 And I hate to really be political or even talk 300 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:19.559 about the government because I want to keep it light, 301 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:23.840 especially after a basketball game tonight, and you know, basically 302 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:26.960 I'm a light hearted person. But it just makes me terrible. 303 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:29.639 I mean, I'm not terrified, it makes me sick. How 304 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:33.840 an individual could have so much hate, pent up hate 305 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:36.799 in their system. How do you hate someone that much? 306 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:37.799 I mean, I don't get it. 307 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:38.600 I just I. 308 00:13:38.879 --> 00:13:41.080 Miss I missed which can't fathom it. 309 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:44.000 Which Lincoln Heights story are you're talking about? Andy, I 310 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:44.440 missed it. 311 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:46.879 You know when when they had that group of people, 312 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:53.360 the so called Nazis. I guess yes, I mean, how 313 00:13:53.360 --> 00:13:57.080 could someone hate a group of individuals? 314 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:56.559 Here? 315 00:13:56.799 --> 00:13:59.159 Here's the thing, you know. And I'm glad you brought 316 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:01.919 this up. You know, we didn't discuss beforehand what we're 317 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:03.480 going to talk about. I'm glad you brought this up. 318 00:14:04.360 --> 00:14:10.879 And I am not defending their ideas. I'm not defending 319 00:14:10.960 --> 00:14:15.159 their words. I'm not defending anything that they did, except 320 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:20.039 to say this, words are not violence. Violence is violence, 321 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:24.799 and it's not a crime to say certain words. I 322 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:27.360 don't say certain words on the radio because we have 323 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:31.720 standards here that rise above the legal protections that an 324 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:36.759 average citizen has, just not in this platform. So in 325 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:39.399 the other part of it is I have a certain 326 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:42.759 amount of civility that's been built into me by my 327 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:45.879 parents and by my experience and by my years in 328 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:50.559 radio that I don't purposely try to offend people with 329 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:54.600 my language. It's just not part of my makeup. However, 330 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:57.320 for some people, and the reason we have a First 331 00:14:57.399 --> 00:15:00.440 Amendment and freedom of speech and freedom of a assembly 332 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:04.440 in this country, Andy is because that is to protect, 333 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:08.960 among other things, offensive language. And from what I know, 334 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:13.360 there was no violence committed in this neo Nazi march, 335 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:17.480 but it could have been met with violence very easily. 336 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:18.360 No doubt could have been met. 337 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:20.919 I was going to go there. I think the words 338 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:24.639 can certainly lead to violence. And we've seen right now. 339 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:27.679 There is a group of people in Lincoln Heights, God 340 00:15:27.720 --> 00:15:30.159 bless them that gotten together kind of like that group 341 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:31.960 that was in New York City for the longest time. 342 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:33.559 They used to travel the subways up. I know what 343 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:36.600 they were called already, but they were like individuals that 344 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:39.240 got together to kind of curb the violence and curb 345 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:43.759 the hate in New York City. And I just my 346 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:46.440 problem is not the protesting, my problems with the worst. 347 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:49.320 My problem is how could you hate people? How could 348 00:15:49.399 --> 00:15:51.759 one individual hate someone. 349 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:55.000 That badly arguments with teachers? 350 00:15:55.120 --> 00:15:57.519 I mean in school, you say I hate my teacher, 351 00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:01.480 but you would never go to the It's a you know, 352 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:05.039 physical violence. I mean, hate is such a strong word, 353 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:07.600 and I don't understand how one person could hate another person. 354 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:11.480 But again, the neo Nazis, I disagreed. 355 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:15.600 Divorce the neo Nazis didn't commit any kinetic violence against anyone. 356 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:16.960 They were just marching and. 357 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:19.840 Could lead, and their access could lead the virus. 358 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:20.320 They could. 359 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:21.759 But you can't outlaw them. 360 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:22.480 You can't. 361 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:25.799 You can't outlaw them in America, and my best. 362 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:28.440 Right, I know that, But I just my problem was 363 00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:30.320 not what they stood. 364 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:33.279 Your problem is that Your problem is what is the motivation. 365 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:35.399 You don't understand the motivation. 366 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:37.039 That you make someone hap that is one group of 367 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:38.519 people hate another group of people. 368 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:41.519 That was my problem, And I don't know. I don't 369 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:43.919 know the answer to that. That's an age old human 370 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:47.840 question that we've been asking, I guess since the beginning 371 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:50.799 of time. There is a part of human nature that 372 00:16:51.039 --> 00:16:55.320 just lends itself to hatred of people who are different 373 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:57.559 than they are, and there's I don't know that there's 374 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:00.240 any way you can figure that out or solve that. 375 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:02.480 I don't think that there's really a cure for that, 376 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:07.960 except just to show compassion and understanding to everyone, regardless 377 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:12.599 of what they believe in what they say, and understanding 378 00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:15.319 that some people just need to be ignored. 379 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:16.720 And that's the other thing. 380 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:20.720 All the all the attention that was focused on this 381 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:25.079 one event where people were marching and saying things that 382 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:29.400 were incendiary to a certain group of people. And we 383 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:32.599 all know what the words are, and I don't like 384 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:35.920 I said, they're not part of my vocabulary any anywhere, 385 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:40.640 not even privately, just because I find that they're they're vulgar, 386 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:44.400 and I have a much higher vocabulary than that generally, 387 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:44.880 so I. 388 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:46.880 Can buy And maybe it wasn't hate as which is 389 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:49.440 maybe that's what they wanted. Is the end result to 390 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:53.279 have people rally around and gissing the at this intention 391 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:55.559 that they got is worse than the worst that maybe 392 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:56.000 they say. 393 00:17:56.160 --> 00:17:58.680 This is my point, Andy, This is my point exactly. 394 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:02.839 If you ignore or the idiots, they will have no 395 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:07.039 reason to continue. Now, if they become violent in their 396 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:11.279 protests against someone else, then you can arrest them because 397 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:16.400 violence and vandalism is not freedom of speech. Words are. 398 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:21.759 And I'm just telling you my rule of thumb on this. 399 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:24.720 For years, and I thought about the Nazis and Skokie, 400 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:27.960 Illinois back in the day, and the marches and all 401 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:32.200