Speaker 1: Welcome to the night tap on seven hundred WLW. Good evening, Gary,
Speaker 1: Jeff Walker on this Monday night, Ready to rock and
Speaker 1: roll with three hours. But I hope you enjoy. I'm
Speaker 1: sure I will. And isn't that the most important part?
Speaker 1: Not necessarily so. President Biden in the last week has
Speaker 1: pardoned three turkeys. Only one of them happened to be
Speaker 1: a son Hunter of all charges, the gun charges, the
Speaker 1: tax charges, and any charges that may come up in
Speaker 1: the future, things that haven't even been charged as a
Speaker 1: crime against the president's son. But Joe of course noted
Speaker 1: yesterday in his statement that all of the prosecutions of
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden were political in nature and shouldn't be allowed
Speaker 1: to stand, even though he told us over and over
Speaker 1: and over again on what about twenty five different occasions,
Speaker 1: that he would not issue a pardon to his son. Now,
Speaker 1: that's what a good father does, right, especially with Hunter
Speaker 1: having information that could implicate his father in all kinds
Speaker 1: of chicanery and illegal activities that he was engaged when
Speaker 1: Joe was a vice president and then president of the
Speaker 1: United States, and as a bonus for the outgoing lame
Speaker 1: duck president, with the Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity
Speaker 1: while he is in office, Hunter couldn't really hurt him anyway.
Speaker 1: He has no reason to claim the fifth in any
Speaker 1: testimony heretofore from this point forward, because he has nothing
Speaker 1: to be charged with. So we can't say that, you know,
Speaker 1: take the Fifth Amendment when asked questions about his dad's
Speaker 1: involvement in his business, which we all know that Hunter
Speaker 1: admitted to in court, as far as dealings with China
Speaker 1: when his dad was vice president, and who knows what
Speaker 1: else is in that tangled web, But we don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about it now. Hunter doesn't have to worry
Speaker 1: about it, and the nation just sits and waits and goes.
Speaker 1: You want to talk about political prosecutions, What about Jack Smith?
Speaker 1: What about Alvin Bragg, What about Letitia James, What about
Speaker 1: Fannie Willis in Georgia? What about the FBI rate on
Speaker 1: mar A Lago and all the charges that were trumped
Speaker 1: up against now the president elect. We'll get into some
Speaker 1: of those issues with former JAG officer Don Brown, Jack Smith,
Speaker 1: the dropping of all the cases against Donald Trump and
Speaker 1: is it just a realization of reality or is that
Speaker 1: more a part of the cover up? Of what went
Speaker 1: in to the law fair that the Democrats tried to
Speaker 1: implement to keep Donald Trump off the ballot, in jail
Speaker 1: and out of the presidential race. None of it worked,
Speaker 1: So and everything we'll be talking about that. Lee walms
Speaker 1: Gans who is a brilliant lady. We will talk to
Speaker 1: her about the death of Dei or at least we're
Speaker 1: hoping so, doctor Aoron mcatyre. The Total State, How Liberal
Speaker 1: Democracies become Tyrannies is the name of the book. He's
Speaker 1: got some interesting thoughts. He's also the host of the
Speaker 1: Urn McIntyre show. And Tony Lyons, who was president of
Speaker 1: the RFK Junior super pac, will be with us to
Speaker 1: talk about how big Food and Big Farmer are trying
Speaker 1: to keep RFK Junior out of the Trump White House.
Speaker 1: And we'll stop at nothing to do so. But first
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of turkey carcass to pick through. After
Speaker 1: the Bengals' latest loss last afternoon yesterday afternoon at pay
Speaker 1: Corps Stadium at home, in front of about oh, I
Speaker 1: don't know, thirty thousand Stealers fans. They came up short
Speaker 1: once again, and a guy who is a long suffering
Speaker 1: Bengals fan, but no billboards for him, especially when it's
Speaker 1: twenty degrees outside. Wildman Walker will join us first next
Speaker 1: on the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's the snee and for the past six years, look,
Speaker 2: I've been either pregnant or in postal the way and.
Speaker 1: The Bengals are finally out of the playoff picture. To
Speaker 1: respond to that and so much more, the sports Commando himself,
Speaker 1: Dennis Wildman Walker on the Nightcap.
Speaker 3: Wild Man, how you doing?
Speaker 4: I'm doing a rider can't comply it's a beautiful day.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean it's a beautiful day and all that,
Speaker 1: But aren't you in sackcloth and ashes over the Bengals season,
Speaker 1: which is now over.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad you're saying this, Gary Jubb, at least
Speaker 4: you're saying it that the season is over. I'll agreement
Speaker 4: with you. It is over. Their playoff hops for Gonzo
Speaker 4: the Kaputt there are no way, Jose. Unfortunately, you've got
Speaker 4: talking heads in this. I'm talking about TV people, Channel five,
Speaker 4: Channel nine, and Channel nineteen. I won't say that the
Speaker 4: season is over, that there's a glimmer of hope. Can
Speaker 4: you believe that? Can you really believe that they don't
Speaker 4: have the sack to say that the season's over.
Speaker 1: Well, they're still trying. They're still trying to sell merch,
Speaker 1: you know. And in nineteen's case, they may still have
Speaker 1: a game and there is Monday night football.
Speaker 3: But I mean, you got it all.
Speaker 1: No, no, Look, it's the same way as this presidential
Speaker 1: election just passed, wild Man. They told us it was
Speaker 1: close right up to the end when I knew it
Speaker 1: was over two months before election day because they had
Speaker 1: to keep the money flowing in for advertisers and all
Speaker 1: the rest. And you know what, we're the home of
Speaker 1: the best Bengals coverage on the radio here, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure that there are some people in the sales department
Speaker 1: don't want me talking about how the season's over, because well,
Speaker 1: they still have to sell it for the next five weeks.
Speaker 4: If you can't fool the people, the people that have
Speaker 4: got a brain know that the season's over. Now they
Speaker 4: sit on TV and say, well, neither the slip percentage, cha,
Speaker 4: it's I'll come all on. I mean, that's just crap.
Speaker 4: I mean, none of these people, especially on television, have
Speaker 4: the guts ever to say anything that's really the truth.
Speaker 3: I don't think they're the red season.
Speaker 4: The red season was over in the June, and I well,
Speaker 4: we got a chance on a wild card. It's like
Speaker 4: get out of here now.
Speaker 1: Is it just because some people won't, I mean they
Speaker 1: won't just admit to reality or I think most people,
Speaker 1: even the most diehard of Bengals fans, know now that
Speaker 1: the writing's not only on the wall, it's on the
Speaker 1: wall an indelible ink.
Speaker 3: The season is over, period, done, last call? Right?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So here's my next query for you, wild man. What
Speaker 1: are you going to do for the next five weeks?
Speaker 4: What am I gonna do?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna be the NFL.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna watch the games. I mean, there's
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow is having a spectacular season, Mark Chase is
Speaker 4: having a good year. See Higgins is having a good year.
Speaker 4: Hendrickson is having a good year. There's there's a couple
Speaker 4: of winnable games that I can, you know, maybe make
Speaker 4: my Sunday. But I'll tell you this right now, They're
Speaker 4: gonna lose Monday in Dallas. I mean that the Steelers,
Speaker 4: who had hardly any offense at all, can come in
Speaker 4: and rack up five hundred plus yards of offense against
Speaker 4: the Bengals, the Dallas Cowboys who won two in a row.
Speaker 4: They're gonna carve up the Bengals defense now on the
Speaker 4: points and it will.
Speaker 1: It won't be with a future Hall of Fame quarterback
Speaker 1: as you saw with Russell Wilson, and he is a
Speaker 1: future Hall of Famer. I don't care what as yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, but he had his best game maybe ever
Speaker 1: yesterday at Pei Corp Stadium. It'll be against Cooper Rush,
Speaker 1: the backup of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson's second highest ever passing yards four hundred and
Speaker 4: fourteen yards, three touchdowns and the pick. Oh, I mean
Speaker 4: the Bengals defense. And that's the problem. You know it,
Speaker 4: I know it sure, And Joe Burrow said after the game,
Speaker 4: there's got to be some changes made Lou Amarillo and
Speaker 4: maybe his entire staff. I don't know the whole staff,
Speaker 4: but maybe his entire staff has to be replaced at
Speaker 4: the end of the year. Now. I know he doesn't
Speaker 4: have the players that he had three years ago, but still,
Speaker 4: I mean, they had like ten days to prepare for
Speaker 4: the Steelers, and the Steelers just took advantage of them
Speaker 4: in every way. The lowsy tackling, lowsy tackling yesterday, Oh.
Speaker 1: My god, about they couldn't talk, they couldn't tackle, They
Speaker 1: couldn't have tackled a fifth grader yesterday.
Speaker 3: It was so disgusting. I'm looking at my wife.
Speaker 1: We're watching the game yesterday on TV, wild Man, and
Speaker 1: I'm going they're not going to tackle anybody. They literally
Speaker 1: are not going to I said, as soon as the
Speaker 1: ball was snapped, they said, look at him, go right
Speaker 1: up the middle. Nobody's gonna even Oh, there's a hand
Speaker 1: on him. And that that made no damn difference whatsoever
Speaker 1: to those rocks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how about these stats, hey, Jeff.
Speaker 1: Nagie Harris Nagi Harris, Nagie Harris looked like looked like
Speaker 1: he was about five hundred pounds and seven feet tall.
Speaker 3: He sure did.
Speaker 4: What were you gonna how about these stats? How about
Speaker 4: these stats yesterday?
Speaker 5: Ok?
Speaker 4: Right? Sam Hubbard no tackles, Miles Murphy no tackles, Trey
Speaker 4: Hutterinson no tackles, I know. And then up up front
Speaker 4: there about bed I think bj Hill had four tackles,
Speaker 4: and then there was, uh, there was one other guy.
Speaker 4: I can't remember his name, but no push all at
Speaker 4: all up front. They got a cab a cheesy two
Speaker 4: sacks on Russell Wilson, but when they really needed him
Speaker 4: the sack and he always got away with it and
Speaker 4: completed some fifteen yards or twenty yard past completion. What
Speaker 4: what a lousy day the deep. That's it's just it's pathetic. Here.
Speaker 4: The Bengals have scored ninety nine points Gary job, That's
Speaker 4: what I said, ninety nine points the last three games.
Speaker 4: I've lost all three games.
Speaker 3: Just amazing.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell I'll tell you what I saw right
Speaker 1: away last night or yesterday afternoon, wild man, what I
Speaker 1: saw in the game when uh there was that lucky
Speaker 1: uh pick six at the beginning game with Taylor Britt
Speaker 1: who could.
Speaker 4: Have been should have been, should have been passed, who.
Speaker 1: Got away with pass interference or holding or something like that,
Speaker 1: and they scored like right away. And then Pittsburgh came
Speaker 1: down and scored right away. I said, And it was
Speaker 1: like there were like four minutes gone in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: I looked at my wife and I said, boy, there
Speaker 1: must have been a lot of people betting money on
Speaker 1: the under. The under under over in that game was
Speaker 1: forty six point five they had scored forty eight points
Speaker 1: together by halftime. There might there must have been too
Speaker 1: damn much money on people betting the under in the book.
Speaker 1: He said, Oh we can't have that. Go ahead. Run
Speaker 1: it up, Fellas. That was amazing.
Speaker 4: Well that I canna say is there's there's gotta be
Speaker 4: some changes, like Joe said, and it starts with the defense.
Speaker 4: They're not going to make the changes now with five
Speaker 4: five games a go, but that hand writings on the wall,
Speaker 4: the fans are, the season ticket holders are raising hell,
Speaker 4: we can see it. Uh, there there is a problem.
Speaker 4: And last year a lot of people were surprised that
Speaker 4: they brought Lou back. But obviously there's some there was
Speaker 4: a problem there on the defensive side. Now, like I said,
Speaker 4: you don't have all the players. Yesterday they played without
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson. Not not Russell Wilson, now Logan Wilson, which
Speaker 4: would have been nice because he's one of their better linebackers.
Speaker 4: But they they've got problems and they.
Speaker 1: And no, no, no, wild Man, that's not that's not
Speaker 1: a one player out reason.
Speaker 3: I mean, Logan Wilson would have.
Speaker 1: Been nice to have, but no, it would have been
Speaker 1: nice to have, but not to say it's the whole
Speaker 1: damn defense.
Speaker 4: It's a whole absolutely, And you know it's not a
Speaker 4: quick fix at all. It's not a quick fix, beccam pants.
Speaker 4: I have to realize it's not a quick fix. It's
Speaker 4: not gonna happen overnight, even to the draft or free agency,
Speaker 4: which I doubt will they, you know, dive into it. And
Speaker 4: you've got the offensive line. You've got two guards on
Speaker 4: this team that can't they can't, they can't block me,
Speaker 4: and that that needs to be addressed right there.
Speaker 1: Oh and then the veteran Orlando Brown Junior. I mean
Speaker 1: he comes back and he's how many times he jump
Speaker 1: offside yesterday?
Speaker 3: At least three?
Speaker 4: At least three, you know, not practicing, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah. All right, well let's uh, let's move.
Speaker 1: Let's move from our misery to somebody else's misery now
Speaker 1: over the weekend.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I'm speaking directly to my friends who are Buckeye
Speaker 1: fans Ohio State at home at the Shoe with every
Speaker 1: reason to believe they were gonna be Michigan, who's had
Speaker 1: a disastrous season after winning a national championship, lost their coach,
Speaker 1: lost their great players, and Michigan comes in there and
Speaker 1: hangs a thirteen to ten hurtin on Ohio State. I
Speaker 1: know you were loving it because you were texting me
Speaker 1: about it. But your thoughts on that.
Speaker 4: Game, Well, Michigan came out like I think they were
Speaker 4: a twenty four point on your dog. Also, they got
Speaker 4: in there and you know that game, you know, throw
Speaker 4: you throw the record book out the window when those
Speaker 4: two teams played, and Michigan wanted it more than Ohio State.
Speaker 4: Ohio State's kicker, what do he miss three field goals?
Speaker 1: Well, I think what happened yesterday was Ohio State's offensive
Speaker 1: coach threw the playbook out the window. And because the
Speaker 1: play calling was just.
Speaker 4: Horrid, there was so there. There were some questional play
Speaker 4: calls exactly, but Michigan wanted it more. Michigan, you can
Speaker 4: tell right from the start that they wanted it more
Speaker 4: and more they do. They have a kicker that could
Speaker 4: uh put the ball through the uprights, and Ohio State
Speaker 4: made a disastrous uh timeout call. Now that didn't help.
Speaker 4: And then of course the game ended with you know,
Speaker 4: the teams, you know, brawling on the field, and I
Speaker 4: you know, I blame Ohio State for this file station.
Speaker 1: No you know, you don't go and you don't go
Speaker 1: and plan your flag on the get your opponent, you
Speaker 1: don't get over you you can't.
Speaker 3: No, you don't. You don't do that.
Speaker 4: Just get off and you got your asses handed to you.
Speaker 4: Get off the field, gout, go in the locker room. No,
Speaker 4: but they want to stay out there and fight that.
Speaker 6: That's just so dumb.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 1: About that was that was provocation by Michigan.
Speaker 4: And it's not provocation.
Speaker 1: They should have forfeited the game for that kind of
Speaker 1: lack of sportsmanship.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that, will Oh.
Speaker 4: God, sportsmanship, give me that. Remember remember what happened and
Speaker 4: went out with high button shoes, and.
Speaker 1: Listen, remember what happened when Terrell Owens, as a forty
Speaker 1: nine er went and danced on the star in Dallas.
Speaker 1: I remember that he got he got creamed, and he
Speaker 1: should have gotten creamed and he.
Speaker 4: Got back up and defined and I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 4: forty nine ers win that game too, by the way.
Speaker 4: I think they did.
Speaker 1: I think they probably did. But it's just poor sportsmanship.
Speaker 1: You don't do that in somebody else's house.
Speaker 4: Start brawling. You don't start brawling. Gary Jeff, Sure, you. No,
Speaker 4: you don't. You got you got beat. You know you
Speaker 4: already got beatn you looked like you looked like dog
Speaker 4: crap the whole game. They take your lickors and get
Speaker 4: in the locker room and get out of there and
Speaker 4: go away. Say next time, next time, we'll do it
Speaker 4: up in Michigan if we can beat you.
Speaker 3: Both schools, they.
Speaker 4: Want to start, they want to start brawling, acting like
Speaker 4: idiots both.
Speaker 1: Well, I think I think the Wolverines were acting like
Speaker 1: idiots by planting a flag on.
Speaker 3: The Ohey they did.
Speaker 4: I'm glad they I'm glad they tried them. But you
Speaker 4: can't plant a flag on astroturb, by the way. But
Speaker 4: they they brought it out. They brought it out all right, right,
Speaker 4: they did in every ohiow state. Man, all I can
Speaker 4: say to that is woo woo boo, cry in your beer.
Speaker 3: Well, it's just because you hate Ohio state. Just listen, Yes,
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 4: I hate Ohio State. I can't stay in Ohio state.
Speaker 4: Do you see about of my life in Columbus was
Speaker 4: I'll never get back from living in Columbus.
Speaker 3: How long were you in Columbus six months?
Speaker 1: Nineteen seventy I'm surprised they didn't convert you.
Speaker 4: Oh no, that's all I heard. They didn't care about
Speaker 4: the Bengals, they didn't care about the Reds, they didn't
Speaker 4: care about the Cincinnati Royals. All it was was Ohio State.
Speaker 4: What do he hate? Ohio State?
Speaker 5: What he hayes?
Speaker 7: God?
Speaker 5: Let me crazy?
Speaker 1: Apparently, of course it left a lasting mark on your psyche.
Speaker 3: Apparently.
Speaker 4: Well, of course, the very first day I was in Columbus,
Speaker 4: I got a jaywalking ticket from a Columbus cop.
Speaker 3: You don't even walk that fast. I know I don't.
Speaker 4: And there was nobody downtown Columbus at the time when
Speaker 4: he gave it to me.
Speaker 3: Oh jeez.
Speaker 4: They acted like I was John Dillinger. Where are you staying?
Speaker 4: How long are you up here? You got forty eight
Speaker 4: hours to pay this. We'll come and arrest you. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: what a great What a great introduction to Columbus. All
Speaker 4: I heard I've ever heard was Ohio State, Hio State Buckeyes.
Speaker 1: What else did you see this weekend that sparked your interest?
Speaker 3: Football wise?
Speaker 4: Well, I was disappointed in the way that you see
Speaker 4: Bearcats into their season finished five and seven, losing five
Speaker 4: straight games. They've got some issues there, Yes, sadder Field.
Speaker 4: I think next year is he either wins or he goes.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's got a three year deal. They're not
Speaker 4: gonna they're not gonna sack him, but hopefully they can
Speaker 4: get some more helps to the portal. And they started
Speaker 4: out fine and I just you know, went in the tank.
Speaker 4: They went in the tank.
Speaker 1: How about the Buffalo Bills last night and the snow
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. That decimation, decimation, total decimation of that team.
Speaker 1: And that's two weeks in a row that San Francisco.
Speaker 1: San Francisco have come into a cold weather environment and
Speaker 1: wound up his frozen turkeys at the end of the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was surprised. Just forty nine. Ers have a
Speaker 4: lot of issues, just like the Bengals. They have issues
Speaker 4: on offense or the Bengals have issues on defense.
Speaker 6: And the Bills.
Speaker 4: And there's something to say too about you know, warm
Speaker 4: weather teams going into those cold environments. Look at Miami Dolphins. Geez,
Speaker 4: they can't you know, they can't. They can't blame the
Speaker 4: gold weather. And that was wonderful to watch on that game,
Speaker 4: Like the Bills like this is us man, we love this.
Speaker 4: We can play in this snow all.
Speaker 1: Right, wild Man, Well, it's gonna be a while before
Speaker 1: we have another Nightcap, so any any last words for
Speaker 1: Nightcap fans of the Wildcat of the wild Man on
Speaker 1: this show?
Speaker 4: What do you mean it for me a while? Well,
Speaker 4: what's going on? There's something I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, No, it's Monday Night football next Monday, and then
Speaker 1: and then I'm not on Tuesday night for some reason.
Speaker 1: And I'll be back on Monday the sixteenth. That's our
Speaker 1: next devus. So last words, final words, wild Man?
Speaker 4: What can I say? Does have fun watching the next
Speaker 4: five games Cincinnati Bengals season?
Speaker 1: Well that's all you're gonna have to watch, so yeah,
Speaker 1: might as well. Might as well save room while they're
Speaker 1: still playing. Thanks, wild I've.
Speaker 4: Got fire sticks so I can watch reruns of Anthony
Speaker 4: rip at twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3: You go do that and we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 4: I will.
Speaker 6: I am going right now, me.
Speaker 3: TV COMA going on.
Speaker 1: The fur Ball is coming up next on the Nightcap
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Speaker 9: Bid insane politics, in fact, the judicial process when it
Speaker 9: came to his Sun but the nine thirty report I'm
Speaker 9: Sean Galviager breaking now. Republicans and even some Democrats pushing
Speaker 9: back against President Biden's decision to part in his son Hunter.
Speaker 9: The President in a statement said Hunter was singled out
Speaker 9: because he just happened to be his son.
Speaker 10: The President reaching his final decision Sunday, making it official
Speaker 10: just hours later, writing in a statement, it is clear
Speaker 10: that Hunter was treated differently. No reasonable person who looks
Speaker 10: at the facts of Hunter's cases can reach any other
Speaker 10: conclusion than Hunter was singled out only because he is
Speaker 10: my son, and that is wrong.
Speaker 3: ABC News is Mary Bruce.
Speaker 9: Now the latest traffic in weather together right now taking
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Speaker 3: No new accidents.
Speaker 8: Now the latest forecast from the Train Heating and Cooling
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Speaker 11: A few clouds around, but clearing by daybreak. We'll see
Speaker 11: a seven am temperature of nineteen. The rest of our
Speaker 11: Tuesday sunny and cold, a high a thirty four at night,
Speaker 11: mostly clear and down to twenty three. From your Severe
Speaker 11: Weather station, I'm nine First Warning Chief Meteorologist Steve Raleigh
Speaker 11: News Radio seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 9: Radar showing a mostly cloudy sky in our current temperature
Speaker 9: twenty four degrees. Demolition began on Friday, while ODAK continues
Speaker 9: to make progress in the ifour seventy one bridge. Spokesperson
Speaker 9: Catheen Fullers today said that crews have been removing parts
Speaker 9: of the southbound bridge deeck first, while installing additional shoring
Speaker 9: towers to support new steel girders that will replace those
Speaker 9: damage in last month's fire. Repairs to the southbound side
Speaker 9: expected to start in January. Following the demolition. Odon aims
Speaker 9: to reopen that side of the bridge to traffic by
Speaker 9: mid March. Shoppers expected to spend more than thirteen billion
Speaker 9: dollars on the Cyber Monday. That's according to Adobe Analytics,
Speaker 9: who said ten point eight billion dollars was spent on
Speaker 9: Black Friday, which is up ten percent from last year.
Speaker 9: As Ohio State University Police continued to investigate the use
Speaker 9: of pepper spray by law enforcement the Big Ten Conference Sunday,
Speaker 9: finding both Ohio State and Michigan one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 9: Following the postgame fight Saturday in Columbus. It's sent for
Speaker 9: Michigan players who tried to plant their team's flag in
Speaker 9: midfield following to thirteen to ten. Upset went over the
Speaker 9: number two Buckeyes, which Ohio State players took offense to
Speaker 9: which OSU Police State led to multiple law enforcement members
Speaker 9: from both Ohio and Michigan to deploy pepper spray.
Speaker 3: College basketball.
Speaker 9: The new Associated Press Pool has uc up two spots
Speaker 9: at number fourteen. Xavier, who was number twenty two, knocked
Speaker 9: out of this week's poll, as Kentucky is now up
Speaker 9: to number four. Yukon down from number two to number
Speaker 9: twenty five after three straight losses last week in the
Speaker 9: Maui Invitational. Kansas remains number one. Monday night football action
Speaker 9: in Denver as the Broncos host the Browns, and right
Speaker 9: now laid into the second quarter, we at a two
Speaker 9: minute warning. It's Denver leading fourteen to ten. With the
Speaker 9: action on ESPN fifteen thirty. Our next update is at
Speaker 9: ten o'clock. I'm Sean Galviager News Radio seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 11: Beloved former basketball coach and educator Satch Sullinger knows you
Speaker 11: got to keep moving to stay healthy, but that's not
Speaker 11: so easy when you come.
Speaker 1: As we continue an hour of sports for the out
Speaker 1: of sorts, and there are plenty of people out of
Speaker 1: sorts this day. Jeez, Andy Furman is along for the
Speaker 1: ride on this night, Camp fur Ball, Andy, Andrew.
Speaker 3: Can I call you Andrew?
Speaker 12: Yes, you call you mister Furman too. If you want
Speaker 12: to miss mister Furman, just don't call me tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Well I won't.
Speaker 1: I don't have a show, so exactly, It's not the
Speaker 1: only reason I ever called you. By the way, we
Speaker 1: talk all the time, You're leading the listener a stress though.
Speaker 12: We talk all the time, but we never told what
Speaker 12: we're going to talk about on the radio.
Speaker 1: No, no, because I like a free flowing.
Speaker 3: Information.
Speaker 1: I like free flowing ideas at the moment that it's
Speaker 1: going on. I like to be at the spur of
Speaker 1: the moment in our conversation without any kind of fore
Speaker 1: planning at all, because that would that would ruin the fun.
Speaker 1: But anyway, but what b is in your bonnet today, Andrew,
Speaker 1: mister Furman?
Speaker 5: The big story?
Speaker 12: Obviously, the takeaway from Saturday's game between Ohio State and
Speaker 12: Michigan is not the fact that Michigan is won now
Speaker 12: for the fourth straight time. Okay, that's not the takeaway.
Speaker 12: The takeaway was the fighting after the game. And you know,
Speaker 12: I hear kirk hurstreet. You think is the end of
Speaker 12: the world. Oh, this is going to be bad for
Speaker 12: college football. And you know everybody around media people you know,
Speaker 12: the good, the do gooders. Okay, you know it's not
Speaker 12: good to be good. Let me tell you something. It
Speaker 12: is good. You know, having a villain is good, having
Speaker 12: an enemy is good. And I do a Sunday morning
Speaker 12: show on Fox Sports thirty, which can be heard of
Speaker 12: thirteen sixty, but it's on serious XM channel eighty three.
Speaker 12: My partner's Bucky Brooks played in the NFL for five
Speaker 12: years and he told me he attended one of those
Speaker 12: Ohio State Michigan games. It's not a rivalry, it's a war.
Speaker 12: They hate each other. These two teams hate each other,
Speaker 12: schools hate each other. And that's a good thing. This
Speaker 12: is the best quote rivalry hate job in sports. Okay.
Speaker 12: And the fact that after the ballgame a Michigan player
Speaker 12: stuck a flag in the fifty yard line or a
Speaker 12: Michigan flag after the beat. You know what, revel in it?
Speaker 12: You lost the game, Ohio State.
Speaker 5: Suck it up.
Speaker 12: Stuck up. Take away the pepper spray, take away the fighting.
Speaker 12: The coaches should have controlled this deal and that's the
Speaker 12: end of it. You know what, Suck it up. You lost, Okay,
Speaker 12: I lost as a shape. And I'll tell you something
Speaker 12: else I want to talk today about. Maybe the coaching
Speaker 12: staff of Ohio State should be gone, Ryan, They should
Speaker 12: be fired.
Speaker 6: You know, here's the deal.
Speaker 12: There's not a question of wins and losses right now
Speaker 12: in college football. It's are all I return on investment?
Speaker 12: They spent twenty million dollars on players. The Buckeye spent
Speaker 12: twenty million dollars on players. Do they get their return
Speaker 12: on investment? I don't think so. It's ten and two
Speaker 12: right now, and unless they win a national title, he
Speaker 12: probably will be fired.
Speaker 4: You know. The thing.
Speaker 1: The thing is, and I want to tell you two
Speaker 1: things and then I'll let you continue your rant because
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 3: It is wonderfully, it's superb.
Speaker 1: I would say this number one, this, this is where
Speaker 1: we get into paying players in college and and and
Speaker 1: all of that rigamar role and mess.
Speaker 3: And yeah, they shouldn't.
Speaker 1: The schools shouldn't be just benefiting from the brazilions that
Speaker 1: they're earning through college football, especially into a lesser college basketball.
Speaker 1: I'll give you that, But the whole payment of players
Speaker 1: in return on investment thing just sounds so foreign in
Speaker 1: the parlance of college football student athlete.
Speaker 12: It's not college football anymore, the NFL, and that's why
Speaker 12: college coaches are quitting left and right. They can't handle
Speaker 12: you know what they're doing.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 12: Did you see what Stanford did the other day? They
Speaker 12: hired Andrew luck as a general manager. Okay, what does
Speaker 12: that mean? I mean he's gonna oversee the nil money
Speaker 12: for football. That's what colleges to come by.
Speaker 3: He's the smartest.
Speaker 12: Bonaventure university did they They hired Bogiowsky, the guy from ESPN.
Speaker 12: He's a general manager for basketball. Okay, Wojo, he's the
Speaker 12: man that say Banni. Right now, colleges are going with
Speaker 12: quote general managers to oversee the football program. It's not
Speaker 12: college Get out of your head. It's the NFL right now.
Speaker 12: It's money, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned Saint Bonavacher, and I'm surprised they have
Speaker 1: any money to pay anybody at Saint Bonaventure. It's not
Speaker 1: exactly a juggernaut of cash generating revenue at Satan Bonaventure.
Speaker 12: Lord, well, I think basketball has got a pretty proud
Speaker 12: tradition in basketball over the years they've had, you know,
Speaker 12: and they they're pretty competitive. We're don't have a football team.
Speaker 12: But it's a nice, small Catholic school, university only on
Speaker 12: New York and I visited there and they have some treats.
Speaker 1: Told me, it's not a school anymore. It's not a
Speaker 1: school anymore. It's a professional sports franchise. That's what you
Speaker 1: just told me. It's not a small Catholic school. It's
Speaker 1: as professional sports franchise masquerading is a small, nice Catholic school. Andy,
Speaker 1: it's all, it's all top, it's all.
Speaker 12: It's all no, no, no, don't don't try to put
Speaker 12: war in my mouth. You just trying to be a
Speaker 12: wise guy. Now I'm going to tell you the real story.
Speaker 12: You put an umbrella over Saint Bonaventure University or any
Speaker 12: other school. And yes, the athletic department is a certain
Speaker 12: business aspect of a university. You could still go to
Speaker 12: the university have become a doctor, that this, nurse whatever,
Speaker 12: you want to be a business person. And and that's
Speaker 12: the academic side. But the athletic side, the athletic department
Speaker 12: is a separately run business and it's always been that
Speaker 12: way at the University of Kentucky. They at the Kentucky AA,
Speaker 12: the Kentucky Athletic Association. That's what it basically is. So
Speaker 12: if you want to, you know, be a funster, a
Speaker 12: big fun of it and say no it's not a school,
Speaker 12: it's well fine, you could believe what you want to believe,
Speaker 12: but yeah, it's separate. There are two separate things. The
Speaker 12: business end of it is, yes, not a department. It's
Speaker 12: a revenue generating department of a university. And there's the
Speaker 12: academic side where people who want to become professionals, the
Speaker 12: a dentist, the lawyer, doctor, teacher, wherever you want to be,
Speaker 12: you go there.
Speaker 6: That's what you do.
Speaker 1: Well, since most schools are just propaganda mills that in doctrinate,
Speaker 1: not educate their students, why not just eliminate the university altogether,
Speaker 1: the student part, and let's just stick with the athletes
Speaker 1: and concentrate on those programs because that's all that seems
Speaker 1: to be important.
Speaker 12: Even I mean, there are certain people who want to
Speaker 12: go to school become chemists and dentists and things like that.
Speaker 12: There is a need and a want and a purpose.
Speaker 1: They're not they're not signing a dental student up and
Speaker 1: offering them money to come and drill tea Sandy.
Speaker 12: Those are the real students high school now. And I'm
Speaker 12: a high school senior and i want to become a dentist.
Speaker 12: I'm going to go to school, go by four years
Speaker 12: undergraduate and the I'm going to a dentist school and
Speaker 12: learn how to become a dentist. What are you talking about,
Speaker 12: sunning up? I mean understand what.
Speaker 1: You know, Dennis dentist standing in their careers to make
Speaker 1: a lot more money than a lot of football players
Speaker 1: who never realized the NFL money. So maybe schools, instead
Speaker 1: of paying the school to go to school, maybe the
Speaker 1: schools should pay the brightest students to allure and attract
Speaker 1: the best students in the country like they do with
Speaker 1: football and basketball play.
Speaker 3: It's ass backwards and what they're doing now is aspect.
Speaker 12: Let me say why, because the students that you were
Speaker 12: you're pointing fingers at that are intelligent and academics in
Speaker 12: the in the background. They don't bring money in the school.
Speaker 12: They don't athletes spring they generate money. They generate sellning merci.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no name name and hold on, hold
Speaker 3: on just a second.
Speaker 1: If you graduate and you're a doctor, or you're a dentist,
Speaker 1: or you're a lawyer, and you had a great a
Speaker 1: great uh, you know, time at that school, great experience
Speaker 1: at that institution of higher learning. Supposedly, then the money
Speaker 1: does come back. They do generate money as alumni. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know, so many, so many nos, so many no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that goes back to the school. Alumni pay a lot
Speaker 1: of money. That's why you sell these schools, you tell
Speaker 1: me away from the pro Palestinian protest because their alumni.
Speaker 1: We're going to withhold their donations to the schools that
Speaker 1: they make every year because they're loyal to the school
Speaker 1: and they had a good experience in the schools. So
Speaker 1: they're alumni and they donate millions upon millions of dollars.
Speaker 1: They do bring money into the schools.
Speaker 5: Here's what they do.
Speaker 12: You want to hear what they do.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what they do.
Speaker 12: First of all, there's only a I'd say I'll give
Speaker 12: you a rough estimate, maybe five percent of alums of
Speaker 12: various schools donate money. Because you're looking at a situation
Speaker 12: where how many people become dentists. And the point of
Speaker 12: no matter is if I got to end graduate school,
Speaker 12: and after I've finished my undergraduate and got a graduate
Speaker 12: school for being a dentist, I'm giving my money back
Speaker 12: to the dental school, not to the undergraduate best number one,
Speaker 12: number two still go to the school. You know what
Speaker 12: the money goes to. The money goes to the nil
Speaker 12: That's where it goes to. So if I graduate Ohio
Speaker 12: State University and I become a professor, I become a teacher,
Speaker 12: and I love the buck Geys, and I graduated summa
Speaker 12: cumlah art whatever it may be, with a four point index,
Speaker 12: and I'm making like two hundred and fifty thousand a year,
Speaker 12: I'm gonna give a check to fifty grand, maybe to
Speaker 12: Ohio State.
Speaker 5: Where's it going to go?
Speaker 12: I'm going to direct it to the athletic departments because
Speaker 12: I love the football team, and the NIL money gets it.
Speaker 12: So in a sense, the athletes get it before or after,
Speaker 12: that's what they get it.
Speaker 3: You didn't as as a dentist.
Speaker 1: You didn't benefit from the football program being excellent as
Speaker 1: a dentist.
Speaker 3: You didn't the games.
Speaker 12: I enjoyed football, I enjoyed my school. Well, all right,
Speaker 12: you know you first, so you're stretching this. It's so
Speaker 12: full it's foolish. It's it's been laughable. What you're telling me,
Speaker 12: it really is. You're telling me they should pay students
Speaker 12: who become dentists.
Speaker 6: What are you talking?
Speaker 1: No, I don't think they should pay I don't think
Speaker 1: they should pay students.
Speaker 3: I don't think they should pay students.
Speaker 1: I don't think they should pay students a dime, regardless
Speaker 1: of whether they're at dentnis or they're majoring in sacking
Speaker 1: a quarterback. They shouldn't pay students at all. If you're
Speaker 1: gonna call them students.
Speaker 12: Why shouldn't they What do you give me one good
Speaker 12: reason why athletes should not be paid going to college.
Speaker 1: Let's not call it a university or a place of
Speaker 1: higher learning anymore.
Speaker 12: About what you're gonna call it, Why shouldn't they pay it.
Speaker 1: They're not schools. They're not schools. They're mills for professional athletes.
Speaker 12: You think, so, Okay, I mean the mill. Harvard's a mill,
Speaker 12: Yale is a mill. Okay, they're all mills, I guess right, the.
Speaker 3: Mill there are.
Speaker 1: They are mills for communists and Marxists, obviously, with their
Speaker 1: indoctrinating professors that they have on campus who aren't teaching profand.
Speaker 12: I, as much as I adore you as a friend,
Speaker 12: us need some professional help because you with so much
Speaker 12: garbage that you really need to go to.
Speaker 3: The point is.
Speaker 1: Andy, Their minds are being inundated with so much garbage
Speaker 1: in these so called higher institutions, higher learning institutions, that
Speaker 1: the only thing that they can produce is good football
Speaker 1: and basketball players anymore, there's nothing else that these universities offer.
Speaker 1: More and more kids are turning away from a four
Speaker 1: year degree because their parents and they realize they're not
Speaker 1: helping them in the real world unless they can get
Speaker 1: unless they can throw a football or shoot a three pointer.
Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous. Don't call them schools, don't call them university.
Speaker 4: You know what you need to do.
Speaker 12: Instead of talking to me on your show, somebody, you
Speaker 12: need to get the president of Xavier University on saying
Speaker 12: the things you're saying to me, to the president of
Speaker 12: Ava University, really to tell me, that's what you need
Speaker 12: to do, because if you're so dead set saying that
Speaker 12: college is a waste of time, a waste of money,
Speaker 12: some people in.
Speaker 3: Most cases, in most cases.
Speaker 12: Talk to the president, argue with the president of Xavier.
Speaker 3: About that where'd you go to school? Andy?
Speaker 12: I went to Hunter College Undergraduate Columbia University graduate school.
Speaker 3: All right? Four years?
Speaker 12: Oh, yes, four years? Right?
Speaker 3: What's your degree in?
Speaker 8: I have a.
Speaker 12: Bachelors of Arts and I have I have a master's
Speaker 12: in education.
Speaker 3: You have a master's in education and you're talking to
Speaker 3: me on a Monday night. Sports.
Speaker 5: You were a team?
Speaker 3: When were you a teacher? I didn't know this about you.
Speaker 3: This is interesting.
Speaker 12: Junior High School fifty nine in Queens, New York for
Speaker 12: two years.
Speaker 3: Two years? Had enough of it?
Speaker 5: Did you?
Speaker 12: Well? It wasn't my so called I say calling.
Speaker 6: I love sports.
Speaker 12: I want to get a job full time sports. I
Speaker 12: eventually did. I while I was working as a teacher,
Speaker 12: I was a sports information director at Division three Hunter College,
Speaker 12: and then after that I got a pop up full
Speaker 12: time position at Saint Francis College in Brooklyn, which is
Speaker 12: Division one basketball. And from there I went to All
Speaker 12: Roberts University to work, and my career, so to speak,
Speaker 12: took off. But before that, I was teaching for two
Speaker 12: years because I wanted to get involved in sports. That's
Speaker 12: what I did. That was my love, all right, lucky
Speaker 12: enough to do so.
Speaker 1: It was a means to an end, as my higher
Speaker 1: education was. I went to the thirteenth grade is what
Speaker 1: I call it, a volunteer state community college in Gallaton, Tennessee,
Speaker 1: only because it had a radio station and a radio program.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the first year, I had
Speaker 1: a job in radio. So bye by school. So I
Speaker 1: went to a trade school. Okay, so there's nothing wrong,
Speaker 1: but there.
Speaker 12: Is a means to an end by going to college.
Speaker 12: There is a means to an end because I knew
Speaker 12: when I graduated college undergraduate, I wanted to get a
Speaker 12: job and a payable job before I could really get
Speaker 12: into my field. So I knew teaching was there there
Speaker 12: was a need for at the time, and I taught
Speaker 12: for two years because the t teach was But.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is the athletic programs and
Speaker 1: their success or failure did not have any impact on
Speaker 1: my experience at college.
Speaker 3: And I like sports. I like sports too. I like
Speaker 3: sports too.
Speaker 12: We had some good players, right, The schools that you
Speaker 12: and I went to undergraduate not comparable to the Ohio
Speaker 12: State universities. I'm Michigan's at the world number one two.
Speaker 12: We're at a different time now, we're in a different
Speaker 12: time zone. When players back in the day when I
Speaker 12: was going to college, I think the big Division I
Speaker 12: schools they were getting like fifteen dollars a month for
Speaker 12: laundry money. The NTAA players were okay, it was a
Speaker 12: different animal. And the fact that I remember they were
Speaker 12: getting something like three hundred bucks a month if they
Speaker 12: lived in an apartment off campus.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, Andy, if Roane State had come
Speaker 1: to Vall State to play us in basketball, we didn't
Speaker 1: have a football program in basketball or in baseball, and
Speaker 1: had very good basketball and baseball programs at these junior colleges.
Speaker 1: If they had come and they had beaten us on
Speaker 1: our home field and planted a flag in the middle
Speaker 1: of that home field, I tell you what, there would
Speaker 1: have been trouble.
Speaker 3: So times really aren't that different, are they.
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, you're going from being paid it's planting flags.
Speaker 12: Let's stick to one or the other. I'm saying the
Speaker 12: planting flag thing is a good thing. No, it's had
Speaker 12: a pair of communities when he did it, when Oklahoma
Speaker 12: be the Ohio State in Columbus and this is gonna
Speaker 12: be now that the Baker Bakefield rule I'm sure they're
Speaker 12: gonna have a ruling on this, but I'll tell you
Speaker 12: this much, I have no problem with it.
Speaker 5: I think it's great.
Speaker 12: I think rivalries are great, and hatreds are great. Villains
Speaker 12: are good, Villains are good villains, and sports are good.
Speaker 12: Lebron James is a villain. You could wrestling matches a villain.
Speaker 12: I think villain's are good. Villains sell tickets. That's what
Speaker 12: it is, villains of the national folks.
Speaker 3: You've heard it. You've heard it, You've heard it with
Speaker 3: your own ears. Now believe it.
Speaker 1: Andy loves hatred, he loves hate, he loves it, don't
Speaker 1: I don't think it has I don't think that's I
Speaker 1: don't think I don't think it has any role in
Speaker 1: in good sportsmanship whatsoever. And what the Michigan players did,
Speaker 1: who tried to desecrate that uh, that holy field in Columbus,
Speaker 1: what they did was an act of evil aggression and
Speaker 1: it should be treated as such.
Speaker 6: Andy, Oh you and how would you treat it?
Speaker 12: One hundred thousand dollars? Fine?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 12: Thank god?
Speaker 3: Would you treated death penalty?
Speaker 12: You know I could see the smirk on your face now,
Speaker 12: I see it right now? I mean you're talking with
Speaker 12: your tongue planted and your cheek and that's fine, I
Speaker 12: get it.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 12: The point is this, The villains are great in sports.
Speaker 12: That's why wrestling has them.
Speaker 5: That's what we do.
Speaker 12: That's what sell tickets, that's events. And I'll tell you
Speaker 12: this is the best rivalry in sports in America.
Speaker 3: And now in America.
Speaker 1: Now you're now you're near highlighting professional wrestling, which isn't
Speaker 1: even a sport.
Speaker 3: Andy.
Speaker 5: Come on, it's an event.
Speaker 4: I didn't say it was just an event.
Speaker 3: Andy.
Speaker 1: And even though you are an event, you are relishing
Speaker 1: in the hate in sports. I want to tell you
Speaker 1: that I am going to I'm going to face that
Speaker 1: hatred that you're purporting and I'm going to meet it
Speaker 1: with love because I love you, Andy, and our time
Speaker 1: is up.
Speaker 12: You all right, I see you.
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Speaker 1: Now off you go.
Speaker 4: This is it? You mean?
Speaker 3: We don't get a castle or anything. What you get
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Speaker 5: I heard that.
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Speaker 13: What's up, y'all, it's cam joyous nightcap on seven hundred
Speaker 13: w l W Gary, and our guest in this half
Speaker 13: hour is a man who was a former US Navy
Speaker 13: judge Advocate general, a JAG officer, a special assistant US attorney,
Speaker 13: and author of many many books, including Kangaroo Courts about
Speaker 13: the systematic abuse of prosecutorial power.
Speaker 3: Where have we seen that in America in the last
Speaker 3: three four years? Hmm? This author is Don Brown and
Speaker 3: he is our guest and we're proud to have him.
Speaker 7: Don.
Speaker 14: How are you, Jared, Jeff, I'm great, great to be
Speaker 14: with you. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your listeners, and
Speaker 14: early Merry Christmas. Yeah, and it's going to be a
Speaker 14: good Christmas to see your brother.
Speaker 1: Almost finished all the turkey this weekend, and believe me,
Speaker 1: it was as much of a shore finishing as it
Speaker 1: was making. But I got some leftovers for later in
Speaker 1: the freezers, so that's always a good thing. So first
Speaker 1: and foremost for people who are uninitiated, people who have
Speaker 1: never been in a Navy and don't know what is
Speaker 1: a JAG officer, judge advocate general. I know it was
Speaker 1: the It was the spawn of one of the most
Speaker 1: popular television shows in history, which probably is not anywhere
Speaker 1: close to what you guys do ncis, which span is
Speaker 1: spun off of the original JAG series.
Speaker 3: But what is a JAG officer in the Navy.
Speaker 14: Time, Well, a JAG officer is an active duty military
Speaker 14: officer in the US Navy. It happens to be a lawyer, uh,
Speaker 14: you know, by trained profession, and so we handle legal
Speaker 14: affairs within the Navy and within the military. I served
Speaker 14: time when I was in the Navy as a Navy
Speaker 14: prosecutor and then I was dispatched to the US Attorney's
Speaker 14: Office for some time out in California and wound up
Speaker 14: at the Pentagon doing work for the Secretary of the Navy.
Speaker 14: And uh and uh, but it is a it was
Speaker 14: a great time in my career. And yes, you pointed
Speaker 14: out the TV show Jag sort of pot our eyes
Speaker 14: the notion and brought it into the public forefront. There
Speaker 14: was a movie before that with Jack Nicholson called A
Speaker 14: Few Good Men Yes, which was based upon really a
Speaker 14: true story that took place out of Guantanamo Bay. Fellow
Speaker 14: Jack ostro Mine was the original of Jack Oscer, who
Speaker 14: Tom Cruise played the role. And that was quite a
Speaker 14: hit movie and it's some of the best writing that
Speaker 14: I've seen.
Speaker 3: Up to this day.
Speaker 14: And as Jack Nicholson would saying, you can't handle the truth.
Speaker 3: I believe I can't handle the truth, don so let's
Speaker 3: get into it.
Speaker 14: You can, you can Garry absolutely, all right.
Speaker 1: So, of course, last week, surprise, surprise, Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: the president elect and the man who was called an
Speaker 1: existential threat to democracy, a man who said he was
Speaker 1: going to tear apart the constitution. He was a criminal,
Speaker 1: he had committed all these obvious crimes against the nation.
Speaker 1: Jack Smith, who was behind all of this, of the
Speaker 1: special appointed prosecutor from the Department of Justice, decided that
Speaker 1: not only is he dropping the closing all the cases,
Speaker 1: but he's also resigning. And this highlighted for you things
Speaker 1: that you had forecasts before. In your book Kangaroo Court.
Speaker 14: Right, absolutely, there's a chapter on Jack Smith and all
Speaker 14: these Kammy prosecutors. If you asked me, these prosecutors by
Speaker 14: Jack Smith, Fanny Willis, alvim Braglatissa James, they are really
Speaker 14: the criminals here because they have launched an assault against
Speaker 14: our constitution with these political prosecutions. But in Jack Smith's
Speaker 14: particular case, he was in quite divine. If you go
Speaker 14: back this summer and appoint the outn Kangaro Court as
Speaker 14: well these cases. Once the Supreme Court was done with
Speaker 14: three different cases, Trump the US being the most important,
Speaker 14: but also the Earlinger case and the Fisher case, they
Speaker 14: were dead on arrival. It was only a matter of time.
Speaker 14: And so in the Trump VUS case, of course, that's
Speaker 14: the case where the Supreme Court say there is immunity
Speaker 14: against criminal prosecution again with presidents. That was simply an
Speaker 14: extension of an earlier doctrine where there was civil immunity
Speaker 14: in the Nixon Beef the serial case. But it wasn't
Speaker 14: just the immunity decision alone. In that case, there was
Speaker 14: a concurring opinion by Justice Clarence Thomas, the greatest man
Speaker 14: of the Court, one of the greatest jurises in the history.
Speaker 14: He said, I agree with my colleagues, there's criminal immunity
Speaker 14: against a sitting president. But also Jack Smith, I'm calling
Speaker 14: you out. I don't see any statue under which you
Speaker 14: have been appointed as a special prosecutor. And the Constitution
Speaker 14: an Article two, section two class to the appointment's clause,
Speaker 14: requires a statue for the likes of a Jack Smith
Speaker 14: to be appointed to begin with us, and we had
Speaker 14: such a statue. It expired, Gary jeff In two thousand,
Speaker 14: excuse me, nineteen ninety nine. June thirty of nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 14: the Independent Council statute under which ken Start operated to expire.
Speaker 14: Congress did not renew it. And so Justin Thompson, I
Speaker 14: don't see how you legally appointed to begin with and
Speaker 14: from that, Judge Cannon in the Florida case, if the
Speaker 14: Document's case took her qute and dismissed it dismissed, Jack
Speaker 14: Smith is being illegally appointed. Jack Smith an appealed to
Speaker 14: the Eleventh Circuit hoping to get us some relief. Trump
Speaker 14: won the election, and now Jack Smith is scurreying to
Speaker 14: get out of dodge because there's a problem. If the
Speaker 14: Eleventh Circuit we were to affirm Judge Cannon, but he's
Speaker 14: illegally appointed. It's only Jack Smith that is problematic, but
Speaker 14: it's also Robert Muller, because Robert Muller was also appointed
Speaker 14: and violation of the appointments clause, and that means every
Speaker 14: prosecution that came under Muller in his Russia Hopes, you know,
Speaker 14: scheme is invalid, from Roger Stung to Paul Maniford, the
Speaker 14: Papadopoulos to my friend General Flynn.
Speaker 5: That goes on and on on.
Speaker 14: So they're trying to pull a plug. Jack Smith is
Speaker 14: trying to pull the plug before Trump can fire him
Speaker 14: because he doesn't want to give the Eleventh Circuit Court
Speaker 14: of Appeals an opportunity in my judgment to affirm the
Speaker 14: fact that he is illegally appointed to begin with.
Speaker 1: Now, all of this stuff you say was unconstitutional from
Speaker 1: the gat ken Starr was legally a special counsel in
Speaker 1: the Clinton case, but when he closed his office in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine, Congress had to re up to have
Speaker 1: another special prosecutors such as ken Starr or Robert Muller
Speaker 1: or Jackson.
Speaker 14: That's true the appointment's clause of the Constitution. You have
Speaker 14: the President of the United States the right to appoint
Speaker 14: senior officers or senior officers with the vice and consent
Speaker 14: of the Senate, such as Catinet position secretary offensive the
Speaker 14: senior officer, but for inferior officers, and that includes US Attorney's,
Speaker 14: US Marshal's independent Council. Congress, and the appointment's clause gives
Speaker 14: Congress the ability to pass special legislation to point those votes.
Speaker 14: Congress had passed special legislation to a point ken Star
Speaker 14: that expired was never renewed. And the current Attorney General,
Speaker 14: Merritt Garland, he can't be gone fast enough. He could
Speaker 14: put himself made these appointments, claiming that he could do
Speaker 14: it under regulatory authority in other than otherwards, his own
Speaker 14: DJ regulations gave him the right to appoint jack Smith
Speaker 14: because he had the right for personnel over the Justice Department.
Speaker 14: But sorry, the Constitution trumps DOJ's internal regulations. That's like
Speaker 14: giving the fox the keys to the his house. That
Speaker 14: just doesn't work. And so, yes, Jack Smith was illegally appointed.
Speaker 14: US District Judge Eileen Cannon has made that finding in Florida.
Speaker 14: Justice Thomas called him out before she made that finding.
Speaker 14: There's no question in my mind that this is an
Speaker 14: illegal appointment. So and that is also the case with
Speaker 14: Robert Muller.
Speaker 3: By the way, Yeah, I was going to get into that.
Speaker 1: This law fair that has been conducted against Donald Trump
Speaker 1: ever since, even before his first election in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: but continuing all through his presidency and the Robert Muller
Speaker 1: investigation in that special prosecution that found well, I mean
Speaker 1: convictions of our prosecutions of Roger Stone, General Michael Flynn,
Speaker 1: Paul Maniford, all of those are are in the balance
Speaker 1: too with the new president coming in. Do you will
Speaker 1: will President Trump be able to or will he need
Speaker 1: to pardon Roger Stone, General Flynn, and Paul Manifort when
Speaker 1: he gets into office.
Speaker 14: Well, there have been a lot of pardons in those cases. Anyway,
Speaker 14: Even Bill Barr wanted wanted the General Flynn case you know, dismissed,
Speaker 14: and got into trouble with the oj deep state commies
Speaker 14: when Bill Barr, who is no real friend of the
Speaker 14: president to his credit, wanted the Michael Flynn prosecution dismissed,
Speaker 14: but having them vacated on again. See, a pardon is
Speaker 14: you know, and you don't You don't get out of
Speaker 14: the acknowledge of the guilt, but you don't have to
Speaker 14: pay the price anymore, right, but all these cases is
Speaker 14: simply be vacated altogether. And I think that's one of
Speaker 14: the reasons that Jack Smith is moving so quick to
Speaker 14: try to you know, to fish and cut bait, as
Speaker 14: we say in the South, before the Eleventh Circuit gets
Speaker 14: a shot at him, because that the Eleventh Circus says,
Speaker 14: we affirm Judge Cannon. He was illegally appointed. And it's
Speaker 14: not just the US District Court judge, but a federal
Speaker 14: Court of Appeals now calling him out as being unconstitutional.
Speaker 14: And I don't think they want the ball rolling with
Speaker 14: that type of a finding. So and so that that's
Speaker 14: what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: So Jack Smith and his uh, you know, closing of
Speaker 1: the cases and resignation, it's it's it's more than just saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: these are dead in the water. It's kind of trying
Speaker 1: to avoid the revelations of a cover up that was
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 14: You better believe it, because take Chris Ray for example,
Speaker 14: He's not going to resign. Trump's gonna have to fire
Speaker 14: and Jack Smith could have waited it out and had
Speaker 14: Trump fired him. But there is indeed some self serving
Speaker 14: interests by trying to pull the plug as quickly as
Speaker 14: Jack Smith is trying to pull the plug here for sure,
Speaker 14: I mean.
Speaker 5: And by the way I did it.
Speaker 14: I wrote an article, had one published in The Federalist
Speaker 14: about three weeks ago on this very thing. If anybody
Speaker 14: wants to go look at it. I just looked at
Speaker 14: Non Brown the Federalist, and I wrote a detailed article
Speaker 14: or an opt ed and the Federalist on this. But
Speaker 14: there is some self serving interest by trying to pull
Speaker 14: the plug, that is Jacksonith' plinty book so quickly, and
Speaker 14: of course I'd do it. Analysis also in the book
Speaker 14: Kangaroo Court about the unconstitutional appointment in violation of the
Speaker 14: appointment's claus.
Speaker 1: Well Biden's Attorney General Merrick Garland, who you referenced, who
Speaker 1: appointed Jack Smith illegally, unconstitutionally, as you're stating, and as
Speaker 1: you predicted in Kangaroo Court, this man could be sitting
Speaker 1: on the Supreme Court if not for you know, some
Speaker 1: resourceful Republican senators who wouldn't allow the appointment to begin
Speaker 1: with during the tail end of Barack Obama's term. And yep,
Speaker 1: and you know the Supreme Court, Well, it's a six
Speaker 1: to three margin right now, and some people say, it's
Speaker 1: more like five to four as far as how they
Speaker 1: rule on constitutional issues. But I mean, there's already a
Speaker 1: member on that highest court in the land who could
Speaker 1: not define the difference or tell you what a woman was,
Speaker 1: Katanji Brown Jackson, one of Biden's appointments. So that's all
Speaker 1: you need is another left wing nut job on the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court, which is not supposed to be a political
Speaker 1: court at all, But they've turned all courts into political courts,
Speaker 1: at least in New York and in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: Where they know they it was already hotbed of kami's
Speaker 1: on the court there, and in Atlanta in Georgia in
Speaker 1: the election case against Donald Trump. Now where do you
Speaker 1: see this going? The case in Atlanta is that dead
Speaker 1: in the water too?
Speaker 14: Now, well, the case against the president is dead in
Speaker 14: the water, and I'll tell you why. Again, the can't
Speaker 14: move against him while he's sitting anyway. But again going
Speaker 14: back to Trump, the US, the court basically said that
Speaker 14: any acts which the president takes directly as a result
Speaker 14: of his constitutional role or protected against prosecutions such as
Speaker 14: betoing a bill. You know, in Texas, the Democrats prosecuted
Speaker 14: Rick Perry and I talk about this in the book
Speaker 14: for a line ied in veto in a Texas constitution, which.
Speaker 12: Had a right to do.
Speaker 14: But the US Men Court said no direct actions under
Speaker 14: the Constitution can be prosecuted or anything basically within the
Speaker 14: periphery of those actions. And the court has said speech
Speaker 14: is generally going to be protected. And so if you
Speaker 14: go back and look a why they're going after Trump
Speaker 14: and Georgia. He called Brad Rathisberger to complain, and he
Speaker 14: should have complained because Georgia was stolen. I'll say that unabashedly.
Speaker 14: You call me, deny all you want. It was clearly stolen.
Speaker 14: The president has a duty to ensure the affairmous relations.
Speaker 14: He makes a call and that case is going to
Speaker 14: be dead in the order as well. She won't be
Speaker 14: able to proceed. I am concerned. However, she's brought she
Speaker 14: meaning Fannie or Fanny Willis, How are you going to
Speaker 14: pronounce it? She's brought these reco charges against a whole
Speaker 14: host of Trump's attorneys, including my friend Sidney Powell, Jack Smith,
Speaker 14: Rudy Giulian, and a bunch of others. These are unconstitutional prosecutions.
Speaker 14: The judge in that case and I'm hoping that Georgia
Speaker 14: public courts are going to throw her off the case
Speaker 14: and get this case out of the way, because this
Speaker 14: is nothing but a political prosecution which attacks the Constitution.
Speaker 14: And I made this argument before, make it in the book.
Speaker 14: When you go after your President Trump sending Georgia, Georgia
Speaker 14: of republic invention, that's not me there after, it's you.
Speaker 3: And he's right about that.
Speaker 14: So they're going after his lawyers. Jack Smith made five
Speaker 14: lawyers unindicted co conspirators into DC case, which Judge Chupkin
Speaker 14: has now dismissed. But Fanny Willis directly prosecuted a host
Speaker 14: of his attorneys. They wanted to and see this is
Speaker 14: an attempt to number one, to tour attorneys from from
Speaker 14: stepping into cases that the left doesn't approve of politically,
Speaker 14: and number two, to go straight after the target President Trump,
Speaker 14: to destroy the attorney client privilege. So you know, Garret Jef,
Speaker 14: you're going to talk to me or any other attorney,
Speaker 14: you have a right in the privilege to tell us
Speaker 14: anything you want it you want, it's going to be.
Speaker 14: That's a time honored tradition under the American common law,
Speaker 14: English common law, and under the constitution, because the attorney
Speaker 14: client privilege is really in the Fifth Amendment right against
Speaker 14: self incrimination and the sixth Amendment right to effective assistance
Speaker 14: of council. So this whole business of waging war on
Speaker 14: Trump's lawyers is an unconstitutional attack. Fanny Willis should have
Speaker 14: been thrown out by the judge down there. You know,
Speaker 14: he found not a conflict of interest, but the appearance
Speaker 14: of impropriety, and he said, okay, Fanny and Nathan, one
Speaker 14: of you's got to go take your pick. He should
Speaker 14: have gone directly after Fanny Willis because she was the
Speaker 14: elected official and thrown her off the case.
Speaker 5: But he didn't have the guts to do it.
Speaker 14: No, but I do think that case is dead in
Speaker 14: the water, at least against President Trump for sure.
Speaker 1: Well, Fannie Willis, you know, just to find yourself a
Speaker 1: new boyfriend, to waste the taxpayer's money. Let's talk just
Speaker 1: for a few minutes while we've got a few more minutes.
Speaker 1: We're talking with Don Brown off of Kangaroo Court that
Speaker 1: predicted all of this law. For all this lawfair and
Speaker 1: the unconstitutional, the unconstitutionality of the cases against Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Let's talk for a minute about Joe Biden's pardoning after
Speaker 1: he said he would not do it of his son,
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, which he has the power to do.
Speaker 3: I mean nobody.
Speaker 1: But we asked him over and over again, mister President,
Speaker 1: are you going to pardon your son Hunter? And he
Speaker 1: said no every time until December first. Now, the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court's decision on presidential immunity also works in Joe Biden's favor,
Speaker 1: even though he argued heavily against it when it was
Speaker 1: you know, in the case of Donald Trump. Because now
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden cannot answer any questions with the Fifth Amendment
Speaker 1: because you know, he's not admitting to anything that's going
Speaker 1: to cause any consequence for him. And he can spill
Speaker 1: the beans on his dad and the involvement in Chinese
Speaker 1: and other business, foreign business that benefited Joe Biden directly
Speaker 1: while he was in office, either as Vice president or president.
Speaker 1: Because of that presidential immunity, Joe Biden can't be touched either.
Speaker 14: Can he Absolutely well. The first off, he pardoned his son.
Speaker 14: He promised that he would not, But the Constitution gives
Speaker 14: him the right to part and so that is the
Speaker 14: direct power of the Constitution, and he will be criminal.
Speaker 14: He would not be subject in any type of criminal
Speaker 14: repercussion from that and my judgment. But the problem is
Speaker 14: one of those be careful what you ask for type
Speaker 14: of things, because you're correct. You know, Hunter Biden can
Speaker 14: be caught in by the DJ can be called in
Speaker 14: by congressional committees, and he can't raise the fifth anymore.
Speaker 14: And if he does raise the fifth, then he subjected
Speaker 14: himself to imprisonment through contempt of court or contempt of Congress.
Speaker 6: Pick your poison.
Speaker 14: So he's going to be certainly without that protection. He
Speaker 14: won't know to high behind the fifth anymore.
Speaker 4: But not only that.
Speaker 14: You know, Joe Biden of course promised not to pardon him,
Speaker 14: and he's given President Trump even more political cover for
Speaker 14: Jay six pardons.
Speaker 6: If you ask me, I mean the President.
Speaker 14: Tweeted on true social social probably you saw this. Does
Speaker 14: the does the pardon of Hunter Biden include the Jay
Speaker 14: six political prisoners who are still in prison?
Speaker 6: You just raised that.
Speaker 14: Question, But it'll give him certainly more political cover to
Speaker 14: do it. You know, I represented a couple of those
Speaker 14: young younger guys that were there at the Capitol, one
Speaker 14: of one of my one of the kids that I
Speaker 14: represented right in front of judge Chuck and who was
Speaker 14: the judge that President Trump faced that kid had. All
Speaker 14: he did was walking twenty years old, walked into the Capitol,
Speaker 14: walked down, had a red hat on.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 6: But you know they we had twelve.
Speaker 14: FBI counter Terry of Terrorism agents arrest the kids in
Speaker 14: March at twenty twenty one come to his house charged
Speaker 14: on five misdemeanors. Now five misdemeanor counts, primarily variations of trespass.
Speaker 14: Well FBI counter terriers age old kid who hit no
Speaker 14: police officer, who busted nothing, whos broke nothing, who simply
Speaker 14: wore a red hat and walked into the catra You know.
Speaker 1: Wearing wearing a red hat during the Biden administration was
Speaker 1: deemed a crime, as we all know. Don Brown, that's
Speaker 1: where we are, Don Brown, thank you so much. The
Speaker 1: book is Kangaroo Court. Pick it up and you will
Speaker 1: you'll see what a what a jag officer is really
Speaker 1: all about.
Speaker 5: Thank you Christmas, all of you.
Speaker 3: Merry Christmas to you, Thank you so much. Will be
Speaker 3: hardcore court action.
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Speaker 1: Been looking forward to our next guest for well as
Speaker 1: long as it's been scheduled, and maybe before that, because
Speaker 1: does it say a topic that is near and dear
Speaker 1: to my heart, and that is the retrenchment or elimination
Speaker 1: of d EI known as diversity, well equity and inclusion,
Speaker 1: equity of course being the opposite of equality, which some
Speaker 1: people still don't get and get confused. But our guest
Speaker 1: is well versed on this. She is the chief communications
Speaker 1: Officer for Patriot Mobile and just a brilliant lady. She's
Speaker 1: also a founding board member and executive director of Patriot
Speaker 1: Mobile Action. And she is a co founder president board
Speaker 1: member of South Lake Family's Pack, which brought awareness to
Speaker 1: a nationwide issue of critical race theory. And we will
Speaker 1: squeeze in as many of these topics as we can
Speaker 1: in our time together this evening. Lee Womganz, Hello.
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 16: I am great? How are you doing today?
Speaker 1: My only issue was making sure I didn't mispronounce your name,
Speaker 1: walms Gans correct, perfect.
Speaker 16: That's perfect, husband's fault.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, the scores all right, Lee.
Speaker 1: So Walmart made the big decision, a much needed decision
Speaker 1: and one that should be welcomed by anyone who loves
Speaker 1: freedom and exceptionalism in this country, to back off of
Speaker 1: their DEI movement, and they joined a number of other
Speaker 1: corporations that have done the same recently, because you know what,
Speaker 1: nobody wanted this. Harley Davidson, Ford, Toyota, Lowe's Deer In Company,
Speaker 1: Tractor Supply, Molsen, Cores, Boeing, Stanley, Blackendecker, Microsoft, Meta Zoom,
Speaker 1: and the law firm of Winston and Strawn just a
Speaker 1: few who have backed off this need to hire people
Speaker 1: and to treat people based on their immutable characteristics instead
Speaker 1: of on their talents and their abilities. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's about time, as someone who did not grow up
Speaker 1: with participation trophies, as someone who was always taught that
Speaker 1: you do lose sometimes that means you just work harder
Speaker 1: or work smarter the next time and you will get
Speaker 1: somewhere in life. But all of a sudden, the message
Speaker 1: was sent because of this fad, and that's all I
Speaker 1: think it was. It was a fad, but it was
Speaker 1: pushed by communist and Marxist factors to try and divide
Speaker 1: our country, to try and downplay excellence and exceptionalism, you know,
Speaker 1: being told all the time that America is not an
Speaker 1: exceptional country and we're not full of exceptional people. But
Speaker 1: in truth, we are and we always have been. But
Speaker 1: DEI sought, of course to hire people because of the
Speaker 1: color of their skin, because of their gender or their sex,
Speaker 1: because of their association or membership in some group. That
Speaker 1: divides Americans instead of as individuals into these collectives, which
Speaker 1: is another communist term. So Lee, just talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about Walmart and we'll get into the other things.
Speaker 1: That critical race theory is also huge on my list
Speaker 1: of topics. But talk to me about why DEI is
Speaker 1: die or doa.
Speaker 3: As I like to say, Well, you nailed that.
Speaker 16: I always say, DEI, we need to reword.
Speaker 7: That acronyms die, because that is where meritocracy goes to die.
Speaker 7: America is a company where if you work hard, you
Speaker 7: there is no limit to your possibilities.
Speaker 16: And this diversity, equity, and inclusion is, as.
Speaker 7: You nailed it, the enemy of freedom, the enemy of meritocracy,
Speaker 7: and Walmart's figuring that out, and every company is starting to.
Speaker 16: Figure it out.
Speaker 7: They've bought into this lie and out of I think,
Speaker 7: for the fear of the attacks of the left, from
Speaker 7: the BLM movement and all of those groups, and they
Speaker 7: realize that, you know, working hard is the way to
Speaker 7: get ahead. Corporate America is a for profit entity and
Speaker 7: when you go to work, you need to work. The
Speaker 7: interesting thing about the terminology of the left, Let's take
Speaker 7: the first acronym D diversity. You know, God created a beautiful,
Speaker 7: diverse world. And what this dei, you know, perversion of
Speaker 7: the left has done. Instead of promoting inclusion, it's instead
Speaker 7: fostering division and resentment, resentment. Equity that no longer means
Speaker 7: what it's supposed to mean. It certainly doesn't mean equality.
Speaker 7: It means the outcomes are equal regardless of how much
Speaker 7: work you put in. Well, how's that going to work
Speaker 7: in a workplace where you to get a job done?
Speaker 7: And inclusion, the whole fostering inclusion and bringing people together,
Speaker 7: that's just a basic It goes back to Biblical you know,
Speaker 7: foundations of treat others.
Speaker 16: How you like to be treated.
Speaker 7: Instead, it's been oh, only inclusion for these groups, but
Speaker 7: let's segregate. Literally, this movement of the left has gone
Speaker 7: back to segregation and the dehumanization of the individual citizen
Speaker 7: in America, because what they want to do is take
Speaker 7: your identity away, from masking to criticizing you for the
Speaker 7: amount of melanin in your skin, to taking away giving
Speaker 7: men Women of the Year awards. They want to take
Speaker 7: away identities because human beings and citizens without education and
Speaker 7: without identities are easier to control.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it is about control. But the way they get
Speaker 1: to that control is by dividing people. So there's no
Speaker 1: not us anymore. It's uh, it's it's them, and it
Speaker 1: is about the hierarchy having as you mentioned that control,
Speaker 1: and it extends well past Have you seen the new
Speaker 1: bud Light commercial. By the way, they're still trying to
Speaker 1: backpedal in and get rid of the Dylan mulvany kerfuffle
Speaker 1: that left them billions of dollars in the red as
Speaker 1: a brand in this country. And I also work in
Speaker 1: a bar, and I'll tell you what when that first
Speaker 1: really really hit the fan, Lee sales are sales of
Speaker 1: bud Light. They're still not recovered to where they were
Speaker 1: pre Dylan Mulvaaney and bud Light has seen that seen
Speaker 1: the light. Now bud Light has seen the light and
Speaker 1: they're getting back to more of that frat boy image.
Speaker 1: That marketing director that Budweiser had hired and herezer Bush
Speaker 1: had hired said she was trying to get away from.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's kind of like running for
Speaker 1: president and telling half of the people in the country
Speaker 1: that they're stupid because they're not voting for them.
Speaker 3: Isn't it.
Speaker 7: It really is. And you know, I'll say the American
Speaker 7: public is to blame and the American public is to
Speaker 7: praise for this. And I'm talking about the conservative public
Speaker 7: because for so long conservatives sat in the background, it
Speaker 7: did not say anything when all of this stuff started
Speaker 7: in the workplace. And where it kind of blew up
Speaker 7: is when twenty twenty one BLM started watching through towns,
Speaker 7: breaking glasses, windows and burning down towns. And it was
Speaker 7: through that whole critical race theory DEI movement that America
Speaker 7: started waking up.
Speaker 16: They woke up to the billions of.
Speaker 7: Dollars that corporate America was giving to these entities, these
Speaker 7: anti faith, anti family, anti woman entities like BLM and
Speaker 7: they realized.
Speaker 16: Wow, I'm I'm buying things from these companies.
Speaker 7: They're giving millions of dollars to these organis stations that
Speaker 7: are trying to burn down my town and tell my
Speaker 7: kiddies are racist because of the amount of melanin in
Speaker 7: his skin, or tell my kidd he's a victim because
Speaker 7: the amount of melanin in his skin.
Speaker 16: So that was our fault for letting that happen. We
Speaker 16: had a moment in my town.
Speaker 7: Like you said, I was the founder of the Southlake
Speaker 7: Families pack where we had basically the majority of women
Speaker 7: standing up at school board meetings and speaking against this.
Speaker 7: And I remember I was in a meeting with families
Speaker 7: and I said, guys, you know, I know you want
Speaker 7: to keep your corporate executive jobs, but what you are
Speaker 7: doing there is a firing line here and you were
Speaker 7: putting your women and children in front of you. It's
Speaker 7: time for you to get up and stand up. And
Speaker 7: if that means you lose your corporate job over it, well,
Speaker 7: I don't think God intended for you to have that job.
Speaker 7: And I mean it was a nanosecond and the men
Speaker 7: were standing up not only in my town, but all
Speaker 7: over the country and speaking at these school board meetings,
Speaker 7: speaking truth to power, and you know, it was the
Speaker 7: start of taking our country back that I think came
Speaker 7: full circle.
Speaker 1: In November, we watched President Trump put together his cabinet
Speaker 1: for the incoming administration. Third roughly one third of those appointees.
Speaker 1: Our nominees are women. There are black and brown people included.
Speaker 1: There was a real inclusion and real diversity in this,
Speaker 1: but it's based on their ability to do the job.
Speaker 1: And we saw the reverse of this during the outgoing administration.
Speaker 1: We saw this with the people like Gina Ramundo, the
Speaker 1: Commerce of Secretary, when asked about the longshoreman strike, when
Speaker 1: asked about any number of labor and commerce issues, has
Speaker 1: said it was really she didn't say it was above
Speaker 1: her pay grade. But she didn't know about it. And
Speaker 1: she's the Secretary of Commerce. How can you not know
Speaker 1: about it. Pete Budajets, for example, who was selected basically
Speaker 1: only on his sexual orientation, certainly not his credits and
Speaker 1: his merits as mayor of South in Indiana, where they
Speaker 1: called him pothole Pete. And you put that guy at
Speaker 1: the head of this of the Department of Transportation, the
Speaker 1: Department of education looks like it's finally and I say,
Speaker 1: greatly appreciated on its last legs. With this incoming Trump
Speaker 1: administration and the Department of Education will only nine percent
Speaker 1: of funding for public schools across the nation comes from Washington,
Speaker 1: d C.
Speaker 3: And the DOE.
Speaker 1: They dictate like eighty five ninety percent of policy and curriculum,
Speaker 1: you know, no child left Behind and all these other
Speaker 1: things that they have put upon local school districts and
Speaker 1: the you know, Merrick Garland, the Attorney General, said that
Speaker 1: some of these mothers speaking out at school meetings.
Speaker 3: Were domestic terrorists. That is how far it went. Lee
Speaker 3: any comments on any of that, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 7: The US Department of Education officially was established May fourth,
Speaker 7: nineteen eighty It's the nineteen seventy nine law under the
Speaker 7: Carter administration, and education in America has gone negatively ever
Speaker 7: since the US Department of Education was founded. The best
Speaker 7: education we can have is that controlled by local communities,
Speaker 7: and by local communities, I mean the local school boards.
Speaker 7: Anytime the federal government gets involved in anything, it maximizes
Speaker 7: in efficiency. So moms and dads are the ones that
Speaker 7: should determine their kids' education. Moms and dads are the
Speaker 7: ones that should have full legal responsibility over their children.
Speaker 7: Children are a gift from God. They're not owned by
Speaker 7: the government. And as the famous saying says, I will
Speaker 7: not co parent with the government. The government needs to
Speaker 7: get out of parenting and get out of education and
Speaker 7: let local school boards determine that.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 7: One of the first things the Biden Harris administration did
Speaker 7: was re implement the CRT and DEI that President Trump
Speaker 7: had gotten rid of.
Speaker 16: And the reason for that is President.
Speaker 7: Trump getting rid of the CRT and DEI was one
Speaker 7: of the best things for America, and the Biden administration
Speaker 7: knew they needed to stop that right away. And I'm
Speaker 7: looking so forward to President Trump getting back in and
Speaker 7: undoing that CRT and DEI damage. It is so bad
Speaker 7: in our military academies. It is so bad in every
Speaker 7: aspect of government.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: It is clearly what I always say to my kids.
Speaker 7: You know, when someone shows you who they are, believe them.
Speaker 7: This move of implementing this CRT and DEI and military
Speaker 7: academies is clear evidence that the Biden Harris administration was
Speaker 7: fully intent on weakening our military and making our military
Speaker 7: academies not the asked of creating incredible soldiers that they
Speaker 7: have a long history of doing, but instead feminizing the
Speaker 7: men and trying to make sure that we do not
Speaker 7: have a military standing ready to defend our nation.
Speaker 1: You can't have an effective fighting force when you're concerned
Speaker 1: about pronouns and whether Johnny can be Jane and all
Speaker 1: of the rest of the nonsense that has been pushed
Speaker 1: on us. Joe Biden famously said in one of his
Speaker 1: speeches that you could understand that for eight hours a day,
Speaker 1: these kids are hours.
Speaker 3: They're not your kids, exactly exactly.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 7: I think parents that started pushing back on that quite
Speaker 7: a bit and are winning across America.
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, I mean the public sentiment.
Speaker 7: Americans of all backgrounds are rejecting the use of race
Speaker 7: and sex and admissions.
Speaker 8: We won that in.
Speaker 7: College admissions, hiring decisions, and promotion. The cultural shift in packaging,
Speaker 7: corporate decision making is finally people with some common sense
Speaker 7: are standing up. And America's you know, middle America's common sense.
Speaker 7: It is the backbone of this country. And we, uh,
Speaker 7: we finally stood up and said we're not going to
Speaker 7: take it anymore. You know, if companies abandoned the EI programs.
Speaker 7: We're going to go back to meritocracy. We're going to
Speaker 7: go back to more balanced merit based approach and workforce policies,
Speaker 7: and we're gonna get We're going to have a more
Speaker 7: profitable America. We're going to have a more successful America,
Speaker 7: and we're definitely going to have a safer America.
Speaker 1: Oh well, just real quickly, your thoughts on and I
Speaker 1: kind of know what you're going to say, but I'll
Speaker 1: ask it anyway. Your thoughts on this court saying that
Speaker 1: again you have to let someone who is a biological
Speaker 1: male participate in and sports in the case of the
Speaker 1: San Jose a volleyball San Jose State volleyball player who
Speaker 1: is a biological male, and the there's Leah Thomas, which
Speaker 1: is not his real name, competing in college swimming and
Speaker 1: breaking all kinds of records when he was like number
Speaker 1: four hundred as a man.
Speaker 3: The fight is still being fought. It's not over yet, right.
Speaker 7: No, it's not over and it's never going to be over.
Speaker 7: And this is where elections matter. The election of our judicial.
Speaker 16: Leaders is really important that they have a.
Speaker 7: Constitutional perspective, not a political perspective that is an extreme
Speaker 7: left political position. It is not a constitutional position, and
Speaker 7: it's certainly not a position that.
Speaker 16: Showcases the founding.
Speaker 7: Of America and from our declaration of Independence that were
Speaker 7: all created equal by God. And it just goes.
Speaker 16: Against everything that is right and it's true. God made man,
Speaker 16: God made woman.
Speaker 7: And the derangement of the sexual controversy that's going on
Speaker 7: now with the LGBTQ and doctrination starting at such a
Speaker 7: young age is really a shame of our society. And
Speaker 7: I pray for all of those kids that are confused,
Speaker 7: and they're you know, those counselors and some of those
Speaker 7: leftist activist teachers, they are really abusing children when they're
Speaker 7: looking at a depressed child and saying, oh, this is
Speaker 7: because of your sex. Do you want to be a
Speaker 7: girl or do you want to be a boy, And
Speaker 7: some of those counselors telling the parents, if you don't
Speaker 7: let this child sexually transition, they're going to commit suicide. Well,
Speaker 7: the suicide rates among those that do transition is much higher.
Speaker 7: And every kid goes through puberty is hard. It's hard
Speaker 7: for everybody. You don't make a permanent change on a
Speaker 7: temporary problem. The temporary problem is confusion. A lot of
Speaker 7: the cause of that problem is by doctrination of this
Speaker 7: LGBTQ activist in many.
Speaker 16: Of our school systems.
Speaker 7: And it's really just such a sad and heartbreaking situation
Speaker 7: in America.
Speaker 16: We need to get the sanity back.
Speaker 1: Lee Walmsgance, thank you for taking another step and getting
Speaker 1: our sanity back in this country. And thank you for
Speaker 1: your prayers as well and most importantly for my purposes.
Speaker 1: Thank you for your time tonight.
Speaker 16: Thank you so much for having me.
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Speaker 1: Audio December second, twenty twenty four Gjdubbs with our friend,
Speaker 1: our new friend, Aaron McIntyre. I think we've talked once
Speaker 1: or twice before or he is the author, among other things,
Speaker 1: he's the author of The Total State, How Liberal Democracies
Speaker 1: Become Tyrannies, and I believe we talked about that when
Speaker 1: the book came out. Host of the Arn McIntyre Show,
Speaker 1: columnists for Blaze News and The Total State, How Liberal
Speaker 1: Democracies become Tyrannies. I'd say we were well on our
Speaker 1: way before November fifth. It seems like we might be
Speaker 1: on the way back. Auren, good evening, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: How are you doing well?
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 3: Do you think we're on the way back in America?
Speaker 5: I certainly hope so.
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 18: The really impressive thing, of course, has been the recent
Speaker 18: display of nepotism by Joe Biden pardoning his son. This
Speaker 18: is the kind of thing that you expect if you
Speaker 18: have a Banana republic. For people who have been crying
Speaker 18: over and over and over about the possibility of violating
Speaker 18: the rule of law. We always knew that was garbage
Speaker 18: because obviously they had been doing political prosecutions all over
Speaker 18: the place, including trying to strip President Trump from the
Speaker 18: ballot and trying to imprison him and trying to bankrupt
Speaker 18: him before trying to shoot him. This is all something
Speaker 18: we were stepping towards, and this is kind of the
Speaker 18: final nail in the coffin for any of their arguments
Speaker 18: for this. It's very good that at the end everyone
Speaker 18: gets see how corrupt the bite regime was. As Donald
Speaker 18: Trump steps into office, hopefully aiming to reverse that trend.
Speaker 1: I was talking earlier tonight with John Brown, who was
Speaker 1: a former Navy jag officer. He's got a book out
Speaker 1: about kangaroo courts, and he was talking about Jack Smith
Speaker 1: closing up the office and resigning before Trump could fire him,
Speaker 1: and all of the things that you were just referring to.
Speaker 1: With the law fair that they conducted against President elect
Speaker 1: Trump almost the entire time he was in office, actually
Speaker 1: before even got into office, they were attempting it in
Speaker 1: many different ways, lawsuits and criminal prosecutions and the like.
Speaker 1: And the Supreme Court decision this summer that said presidents
Speaker 1: had some broad immunity powers for official acts committed in office.
Speaker 1: A pardon is an official act. So while Joe Biden
Speaker 1: boohooed that decision earlier this summer, he seems to be
Speaker 1: reaping the world wind on the positive side with the
Speaker 1: pardoning of Hunter, because now, no matter what Hunter says
Speaker 1: implicating his father in his evil doing, Joe will be
Speaker 1: I guess protected because he was in office at the time.
Speaker 18: Yeah, that's really the stunning Yes, that's really the stunning
Speaker 18: thing about the breadth of the pardon. It's not just
Speaker 18: for a specific crime, it's not just for charges which
Speaker 18: he has gone in front of a court because of
Speaker 18: this is going all the way, I believe, to twenty
Speaker 18: fourteen to the present day.
Speaker 3: Right when Joe was Vice president exactly.
Speaker 18: So this is covering a lot of the time in
Speaker 18: which the Big Guy was mentioned when it came to corruption,
Speaker 18: scandals and Hunter Biden. So in a way, he's pardoning his.
Speaker 5: Son, something which maybe you know unwise.
Speaker 18: But we can all kind of understand at a certain level.
Speaker 18: But this is not some selfless act. This is him
Speaker 18: covering his own butt when it comes to what he
Speaker 18: has done, the corruption he has been involved in, which
Speaker 18: is probably why we're also so obsessed with war in
Speaker 18: Ukraine right now as well.
Speaker 5: It's very clear that Joe.
Speaker 18: Biden is not somebody who's looking out for the best
Speaker 18: interests of his family.
Speaker 5: He's somebody who is making sure to cover his.
Speaker 1: Tracks on the way out the door, his tracks or
Speaker 1: any other part of his body that may be making
Speaker 1: tracks as he leaves the White House. Liberals and I
Speaker 1: hate to use the term liberals for people on the
Speaker 1: left because they're not liberals in the classical sense, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But the left is the Marxist
Speaker 1: who are just melting down over Trump's reelection, just you know,
Speaker 1: barely a month ago, almost a month ago. It's amazing
Speaker 1: because when Joe Biden, when they announced that Joe Biden
Speaker 1: had won in twenty twenty, I wasn't happy about it.
Speaker 1: But I never threatened to leave the country. I didn't
Speaker 1: even make it to the Capitol on January sixth. But
Speaker 1: I understand that a lot of those people who were
Speaker 1: still in the Washington DC gulags and prisons because they
Speaker 1: were just at the Capitol on January sixth. But my
Speaker 1: point is when people like me and possibly you, who
Speaker 1: are on the other side of the political aisle, when
Speaker 1: we suffer a loss, we don't take our ball and
Speaker 1: go home. We don't turn off the news, we don't
Speaker 1: stop fighting the fights. In fact, my worry is that
Speaker 1: people on our side will now just let down our
Speaker 1: guard again with Donald Trump back in office and you know,
Speaker 1: the rightful order restored to our republic. But we can't
Speaker 1: sleep and we certainly, like I said, didn't I didn't
Speaker 1: threaten to move out of the country. Number one, where
Speaker 1: would I go. But the liberal media, the leftist media,
Speaker 1: has absolutely just gone bananas. And the people who are
Speaker 1: following the leftist media so closely and hanging on every
Speaker 1: word that say Rachel Maddow or Joy Behar or Joy
Speaker 1: Read or Morning Joe said, and believing all of the
Speaker 1: falsehoods and all of the garbage that they were spewing
Speaker 1: are now just ah Man people cutting people out of
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving dinners and all the rest. I mean, can you
Speaker 1: explain this phenomenon? They just seem like the biggest bunch
Speaker 1: of babies in the world.
Speaker 18: Is what happened when politics replaces religion? Right, If this
Speaker 18: is your belief, your identity, then America isn't a place
Speaker 18: with a people who have a tradition and a culture
Speaker 18: which they'd like to preserve. America is an ideology, and
Speaker 18: the minute that that ideology fails to conform to the
Speaker 18: world you're trying to create, then you're attempted to simply
Speaker 18: throw it away.
Speaker 5: Now, I will say this for.
Speaker 18: The left, when they win, they recognize the importance of
Speaker 18: making sure to build institutional power.
Speaker 5: They don't just win the election.
Speaker 18: They ensure that all of the structures of the system
Speaker 18: move in their favor. They foundations, they install loyalists into
Speaker 18: positions of power. They continue because they realize that they
Speaker 18: are revolutionaries working towards changing America, transforming it. As you
Speaker 18: pointed out, conservatives have a nasty habit of winning a
Speaker 18: big victory like this but then saying, oh, well, it's
Speaker 18: time to go home and grill. I guess we solved
Speaker 18: all the problems. But that would be a mistake in
Speaker 18: this situation, because the leftists have not given up. Some
Speaker 18: of them are talking about moving. I'm sure a few
Speaker 18: of them will go somewhere. I hear the UK is
Speaker 18: getting some lovely new residents. Sorry England, we didn't mean
Speaker 18: to do this to you, but ultimately the leftists will
Speaker 18: be back in power. And if the right does not
Speaker 18: learn a left and if a lesson, If conservatives simply
Speaker 18: look at what the left has done to the DOJ
Speaker 18: and every other aspect of our society and say, oh, well,
Speaker 18: we're just going to try to set things back to
Speaker 18: neutral in the time of peace, then that simply resets
Speaker 18: everything for a left to start.
Speaker 5: Pushing again the moment they enter office.
Speaker 18: President Trump is picking a lot of people from outside
Speaker 18: of Washington, especially from Florida. Very interestingly, people who are
Speaker 18: not on the radar for most of the agencies they
Speaker 18: are running I think that pic is particular. He's making
Speaker 18: those picks because he's looking to dismantle the permanent Washington
Speaker 18: bureaucracy in the administrative state, and that requires people who
Speaker 18: are loyal to him, not looking for long term occupations
Speaker 18: inside the Washington DC establishment.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm hoping to see moving forward.
Speaker 1: Well as the founding fathers envision when they set up
Speaker 1: this government and they wrote our constitution, is that it
Speaker 1: was supposed to be citizen lawmakers, people who would go
Speaker 1: and serve the public, not themselves, and then go back
Speaker 1: home to whatever they were doing before. You're right that
Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot of lifelong politician tie apes
Speaker 1: in this administration. I mean there are some of those,
Speaker 1: but for the most part, these are people, as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: who are off the radar of establishment DC and maybe
Speaker 1: can actually get some work done for the people.
Speaker 3: Instead of.
Speaker 1: As opposed to the people that we have seen. You're
Speaker 1: right about, and this is I guess. Last week the
Speaker 1: liberal media scream featuring the co founder of Axios ranting
Speaker 1: that Elon Musk isn't a reporter, Jim Vandahei said, being
Speaker 1: a reporters hard. The people that call themselves reporters that
Speaker 1: I have seen in mainstream media for the last four
Speaker 1: or five years, or the last eight years ever since
Speaker 1: the first Trump presidency don't work very hard as far
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. They just pairt a talking point and
Speaker 1: pass it around to the next guy. I mean, the
Speaker 1: whole Russian collusion thing was corroborated because one news source
Speaker 1: cord itself and said we have corroboration here. Well, because
Speaker 1: Yahoo said it and Yahoo confirmed it.
Speaker 3: Very good. That is hard reporting, isn't it.
Speaker 5: Arn.
Speaker 18: Yeah, As somebody who worked as a local news reporter
Speaker 18: for years, I'm very familiar with how much the media
Speaker 18: sphere is tied into this central distribution network, especially through
Speaker 18: the wired networks like the AP. One story gets written
Speaker 18: and every other outlet starts parting it. Very few people
Speaker 18: are actually out there doing original or reporting. Very few
Speaker 18: people are dedicating themselves to investigation. They really are just
Speaker 18: taking the work of other people, copying, pasting it, maybe
Speaker 18: throwing a new advertisement in there, and then calling it
Speaker 18: their work. And this is why these news stories just keep.
Speaker 5: Promulgating over and over and over again. This is not
Speaker 5: a hero class, this is a propaganda class.
Speaker 18: They know what their job is once the ideas come
Speaker 18: down from on high, they just repeat them over and
Speaker 18: over and over again, hoping to overwhelm what people can
Speaker 18: see with their own lying eyes. And sadly there used
Speaker 18: to be very effective at this. But the good news
Speaker 18: is that there are many alternative media sources. And that's
Speaker 18: why so many of these people hate Elon Musk and
Speaker 18: Joe Rogan and all of these people breaking out in
Speaker 18: social media and podcasts, because that is creating a disintermediation
Speaker 18: of information. Everything is no longer locked up in these
Speaker 18: few sources that are completely controlled by the left.
Speaker 3: Well, and I don't think Elon Musk ever claimed to
Speaker 3: you as a reporter. He bought X.
Speaker 1: He bought X specifically because these other social media sites
Speaker 1: were silencing any kind of descent over that official, regurgitated
Speaker 1: word salad that you were just talking about. I guess
Speaker 1: you're right about that in the total state too, about
Speaker 1: how the media needs to be complicit for this total
Speaker 1: state to actually flourish. And you've got an Elk that
Speaker 1: fly in the ointment. It's not an easier it's not
Speaker 1: an easy thing to do anymore, because people can see
Speaker 1: what they already know, as you said, with their lion eyes. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, Elon Musk never claimed to be a reporter,
Speaker 1: but this guy from Axios was saying that he's nothing
Speaker 1: but male bovine fecal sample the words that I can
Speaker 1: use on this show. How about how about Joe Scarborough
Speaker 1: and Mika Brazinski going down to mar Alago after calling
Speaker 1: Donald Trump an existential threat to democracy and hitler for
Speaker 1: the last year, four years whatever during the law fair
Speaker 1: and everything and the persecution of Donald Trump for political
Speaker 1: reasons only, and then they they go and they kiss
Speaker 1: the ring. I mean, are they just looking for gigs
Speaker 1: as housekeepers or gardeners?
Speaker 3: What was their purpose in going down to Moro Lago
Speaker 3: in the first place.
Speaker 18: You know, honestly, I haven't even seen, but it doesn't
Speaker 18: shock me at all. Let's not forget that these are
Speaker 18: people of that basically launched Donald Trump's political career.
Speaker 5: In fact, it was noted by many.
Speaker 18: Leftists that Trump got a mass amount of free publicity
Speaker 18: during his first run because so few people actually thought
Speaker 18: that he was a serious candidate, and the liberal media
Speaker 18: thought it would be funny to mock him, bring him
Speaker 18: on for ratings, parade him around until they recognize that
Speaker 18: actually No, this guy has real momentum, he got real support,
Speaker 18: and he is going to make changes that the UNI
Speaker 18: Party does not like. It's really unsurprising because the Left
Speaker 18: has gone on and on, like you said, for years,
Speaker 18: especially Morning Joe, about how evil Trump is and how
Speaker 18: he's a second.
Speaker 5: Coming of Hitler.
Speaker 18: But they didn't mean a word of it. Or they're
Speaker 18: all cowards. There's only one or two. They're either liars
Speaker 18: or just completely unconscionable cowards. If you actually believe Trump
Speaker 18: is Hitler, then you would never engage in this way.
Speaker 18: And if you didn't believe it, then obviously you were
Speaker 18: just lying to your audience on purpose for many or
Speaker 18: many years. I would like to believe that they are
Speaker 18: both liars and cowards, but obviously they can't afford one
Speaker 18: of those two charges.
Speaker 1: No, no doubt about it. President Trump, for his part,
Speaker 1: has put it put together. Okay, I said that Trump
Speaker 1: was putting together his cabinet faster than an Ikea Zoom video.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: This has been This has been pretty amazing watching this
Speaker 1: all come together. And I think that also makes the
Speaker 1: left in this country the Marxist who would like us
Speaker 1: to be a tyranny with them in charge.
Speaker 3: I think this is also.
Speaker 1: Been quite disconcerting to these people that he's been there once.
Speaker 1: He already he already saw a lot of the pitfalls
Speaker 1: of being in the middle of the swamp, and now
Speaker 1: he knows how to better navigate it.
Speaker 3: Do you see it that way?
Speaker 17: Yeah?
Speaker 18: Obviously, the big criticism of the first Trump presidency is
Speaker 18: I don't know that he even to win, as it
Speaker 18: is such a miraculous win that when it came to
Speaker 18: moving into office, he simply was not prepared for the
Speaker 18: enormity of this. I mean, you read Article two and
Speaker 18: you believe that the president is in charge of.
Speaker 5: The executive branch. But it's very clear that we have
Speaker 5: not been operating under.
Speaker 18: The constitution for a very long time. And so when
Speaker 18: Trump entered in to the halls of power, he sat
Speaker 18: there very confused as to why people were not obeying
Speaker 18: his orders, not trying to implement his agenda. Today, he
Speaker 18: understands the importance of the administrative state, the bureaucracy, the
Speaker 18: swamp as many people call it. He recognizes that these
Speaker 18: levers of power are what actually operate the executive branch.
Speaker 18: It's not the way the Constitution intended it, but it
Speaker 18: is the way he finds it now, and so if
Speaker 18: he wants to restore constitutional governance, he first has to
Speaker 18: cut through the red tape and dismantle the administrative state as.
Speaker 5: He finds it.
Speaker 18: A lot of the left are crying, Oh, that means
Speaker 18: it's fascist, that means he's a dictator. No, that means
Speaker 18: he's just acting like a constitutional president. But at this point,
Speaker 18: you've hampered the actual constitution so severely with your own
Speaker 18: warped understanding that a simple exercise of constitutional power from
Speaker 18: the executive looks crazy to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which alphabet agencies would you like to see dismantled?
Speaker 1: I know we've got to We've got to get the
Speaker 1: DOJ back to being in charge of the rule of
Speaker 1: law and justice that's in the name. Uh, We've got
Speaker 1: to get the FBI to stop being a prosecutorial agency
Speaker 1: for political purposes and back to being an investigative agency.
Speaker 1: Would the Department of Education, the Department of Energy, so
Speaker 1: many things neither either be decentralized or totally eliminated.
Speaker 3: Do you think that will happen?
Speaker 18: Well, they've already promised to remove the Department of Education.
Speaker 18: Now I have heard every president, Republican, president of my
Speaker 18: lifetime pledged to do this. Ronald Reagan pledged to do
Speaker 18: this back when the Department of Education was only a
Speaker 18: few years old, and he was unable to do it.
Speaker 5: So I love this promise and I.
Speaker 18: Hope he follows through. But many presidents have failed. He
Speaker 18: needs to be the one that succeeds. The Department of
Speaker 18: Education is easy because it's just cancer. It serves no purpose.
Speaker 18: You know, some of these other departments at least have
Speaker 18: some practical application. The Department of Education does not. Now,
Speaker 18: something like the FBI, I think is also critical, but
Speaker 18: that is a much more controversial move. I think it
Speaker 18: should be dismantled, taken down to its brass tacks, and
Speaker 18: rebuilt from the ground up.
Speaker 5: And others want reform.
Speaker 3: But no amen.
Speaker 1: I think the FBI should be stripped down to just
Speaker 1: the bare bones and rebuilt completely. And the Department of
Speaker 1: Education actually has There's some real motivation now in Congress
Speaker 1: to get rid of it or decentralize it, to defang it.
Speaker 1: We were number one in education in the world in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine when Jimmy Carter and the Congress approved
Speaker 1: the DOE took effect May fourth, nineteen eighty We are
Speaker 1: now twenty fourth in the world in education as a
Speaker 1: result of the Department of Education, totally counterintuitive to its emission.
Speaker 18: Yeah, this is one of the situations where the purpose
Speaker 18: of an agency.
Speaker 5: Is what it's done, what it does, not what it's called.
Speaker 18: So the Department Education doesn't educate anybody. And our current
Speaker 18: border control doesn't control the border right exactly, of investigation
Speaker 18: doesn't investigate crime.
Speaker 5: We need these agencies to do what's on the label,
Speaker 5: or we need them to go.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Arn McIntyre, host of The Arn McIntyre Show and author
Speaker 1: of The Total State, How Liberal Democracies become Tyrannies.
Speaker 3: Thank you for your time today. It was It was fun.
Speaker 5: Great talking to you. Thank you for having me.
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Speaker 1: Next guest is the co founder of American Values twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four, which was the RFK Junior super peck. He's
Speaker 1: an attorney president of Skyhorse Publishing, and there's a new
Speaker 1: RFK Junior book out called the wu Han Cover Up
Speaker 1: and Terrifying Bioweapons Arms Race to talk about to playbook
Speaker 1: and much more. How the wheels are in motion for
Speaker 1: big food and big Farmer to try and stop RFK
Speaker 1: Junior as Head of Health and Human Services in the
Speaker 1: Trump administration.
Speaker 3: We have Tony Lyons back with us. Tony, how are you.
Speaker 6: Great? Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3: Oh no, thank you for being on. And you know
Speaker 3: we talked.
Speaker 1: Show hosts love content and you are providing content, my friend,
Speaker 1: while we while we publicized the book and what you're
Speaker 1: doing with RFK Junior.
Speaker 3: How long have you known Bobby Kennedy, Tony, I've.
Speaker 6: Known Bobby for about twelve years. I published about a
Speaker 6: dozen of his books. I've seen his incredible attention to detail.
Speaker 6: You know, he's, you know, the real Anthony Fauci with
Speaker 6: his biggest project. I remember an incredibly tough book and
Speaker 6: you know, it was something like two thousand, one hundred
Speaker 6: ninety citations, and you know, that blurbs from a Nobel
Speaker 6: Prize winning scientist. And yet, you know, even with that
Speaker 6: incredible attention to detail and all the research that he did,
Speaker 6: just about every newspaper in the country wrote something bad.
Speaker 6: But the American public came out and they really bought
Speaker 6: that book, and they wanted to know about it, and
Speaker 6: they read it carefully. So the book sold one point
Speaker 6: four million copies. Wow, in all formats, which I think
Speaker 6: is the you know, makes it probably the best selling
Speaker 6: most censored book in America over the last five years.
Speaker 5: Nice.
Speaker 6: There's never been a book that was subjected to that
Speaker 6: kind of censorship and still did this.
Speaker 12: Well.
Speaker 1: I know people who write really great books and do
Speaker 1: all the work in citations and if they sell one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand copies they're happy. One point four million copies
Speaker 1: that is absolutely stunning, especially, as you said, with all
Speaker 1: the resistance it got, the bad press and the major
Speaker 1: news outlets pooh pooing it all the way home. He
Speaker 1: has to have really tough skin for everything that he
Speaker 1: has been through. I mean, you consider his history obviously
Speaker 1: with his family and his father, but also just to
Speaker 1: be able to stand up against that horde that tied
Speaker 1: and to basically, I don't know, betrayed the family party
Speaker 1: the Democrat Party, because you know, I guess he would
Speaker 1: say famously and has you know, I didn't leave the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party, It left me.
Speaker 3: And when do you think that that happened?
Speaker 1: When the Democrat Party stopped being a party that at
Speaker 1: least considered itself a party of the people and became
Speaker 1: a party of the elites and the establishment.
Speaker 3: When exactly did that turn?
Speaker 6: I think it's been a great dual process. But if
Speaker 6: you look at the Democratic Party now and what it
Speaker 6: stands for versus what it used to stand for, I mean,
Speaker 6: free speech used to be at the top of the list. Yeah,
Speaker 6: being anti war used to be right up there. You know,
Speaker 6: really caring about the middle class used to be up there,
Speaker 6: and now I think there's just none of that that
Speaker 6: the Democratic Party has just totally shifted to culture war
Speaker 6: subject matter. They're you know, they're now pro war and
Speaker 6: their pro censorship, and you know, you just kind of
Speaker 6: look at what's happened to the Democratic party, and there's
Speaker 6: not much to like there, even for lifelong Democrats.
Speaker 1: It's like the Communists have infiltrated it over a long
Speaker 1: period of time, and we have this now. So tell
Speaker 1: me about the playbook and how Big Food and Big
Speaker 1: Farmer are trying to stop RFK Junior to make these
Speaker 1: valuable changes to make America healthy again as head of HHS.
Speaker 3: Well, what is the play book, Tony?
Speaker 6: Well, the playbook is to make the American people believe
Speaker 6: that Bobby Kennedy is a dangerous guy. So they want
Speaker 6: to look at all kinds of things that he did,
Speaker 6: you know, thirty years ago, and vilify him in every way.
Speaker 6: They can make up stories, do whatever they can to
Speaker 6: make people distrust him, you know, because he's a threat
Speaker 6: to their profits. So they've had this kind of gravy
Speaker 6: train of controlling the federal agencies and being able to
Speaker 6: put things through to the people of this country that
Speaker 6: you know, just shouldn't be allowed, that they shouldn't be
Speaker 6: allowed to put things in the food that they have,
Speaker 6: They shouldn't be allowed to accelerate drug use, you know,
Speaker 6: so called the you know, legal drug use in this country,
Speaker 6: and the proliferation of vaccines that you know, many of
Speaker 6: which probably aren't necessary. So we've gone from something like
Speaker 6: seven vaccine in less than a generation to something like
Speaker 6: ninety one that you get by the time you're eighteen.
Speaker 6: So you know, there's all kinds of things going on there.
Speaker 6: But what they really want is just to protect their
Speaker 6: own profits, not to protect the American public. So you know,
Speaker 6: if you're a parent, or if you're just a concerned citizen,
Speaker 6: or if you care about your health, you should love
Speaker 6: Bobby Kennedy. He has no threat to you at all.
Speaker 6: He just wants to have gold standard science in this
Speaker 6: country that will lead us to make better decisions. And
Speaker 6: he points out that if you walk into a McDonald's
Speaker 6: in Paris and you eat the food there, it's got
Speaker 6: totally different things in it that that's much healthier food
Speaker 6: than the same companies sell to their own people in
Speaker 6: the United States. Because they've captured the government, they don't
Speaker 6: care about poisoning their own people. And you know, these
Speaker 6: are people who should be in prison in many cases,
Speaker 6: not people who should be in positions of power.
Speaker 1: Well, when I see Bobby Kennedy Junior eating fries and stuff,
Speaker 1: did they import those from Paris aboard Trump's plane or
Speaker 1: was he just making a concession to the president for
Speaker 1: that one flight. That's what That's what I was always
Speaker 1: wondering when I saw the photos.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so that's you know, that's that's a great,
Speaker 6: great picture of people like to show. You know. One
Speaker 6: of the things that I think is really important is
Speaker 6: that Bobby has said he doesn't want to take people's
Speaker 6: fat food away. He doesn't want to take people's guns
Speaker 6: from them. He doesn't want to take any of your
Speaker 6: free choice from you. And he knows nobody's perfect. He
Speaker 6: isn't perfect. He makes bad decisions, he's junk food some
Speaker 6: of the time. The idea is to do a better job.
Speaker 6: It's to make it so that the government is not,
Speaker 6: you know, helping big corporations poison the American public. And
Speaker 6: we're all going to eat junk food some of the time.
Speaker 6: We're all going to put things in our body that
Speaker 6: we don't want to put in our bodies. But we
Speaker 6: can do much better in this country. We're the richest
Speaker 6: country in the world, we're the most powerful country in
Speaker 6: the world. We spend more on healthcare than any country
Speaker 6: in the world, and yet we have these terrible outcomes.
Speaker 6: So that our children are sicker than children anywhere in
Speaker 6: the world of this thirty industrialized countries. So that's what
Speaker 6: the point is. You know, that's part of the playbook,
Speaker 6: showing Bobby with French fries right in front of him
Speaker 6: that he mayor man. You know, that's just part of
Speaker 6: the playbook. Try to cut catch him off guard, try
Speaker 6: to filify him for something. But the point remains the same.
Speaker 6: We can do better. We need people in positions of
Speaker 6: power who are going to help us do better, and
Speaker 6: that is Bobby Kennedy. He has the honesty, the integrity,
Speaker 6: the willpower. He's risked everything and he will make this
Speaker 6: country healthy again.
Speaker 1: The president of Skyhorse Publishing is Tony Lyons. He's our
Speaker 1: guest for the next few minutes. No, Tony, the real
Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci. You talked about Bobby's most most famous and
Speaker 1: popular book to date. I found as a vindication for
Speaker 1: me because they were things that I suspected or knew
Speaker 1: just internally. I discerned it in the middle of the
Speaker 1: what I call the scamdemic. I remember in it was
Speaker 1: April of twenty twenty, and I went on the airwaves
Speaker 1: on this show and I said, no, this lockdown thing.
Speaker 3: This fifteen days to flatten the curve.
Speaker 1: This is all a smoke screen for something else, the
Speaker 1: masking which they lied about consistently. Anthony Fauci one of
Speaker 1: the leading liars in that particular cause of this six
Speaker 1: feet of separ separation, which he found out later, was
Speaker 1: this something that they made up, but just the number
Speaker 1: they came up with out of thin air. There was
Speaker 1: no science. But all the while we were told to
Speaker 1: believe the science and not be science deniers. But Bobby
Speaker 1: Kennedy did the heavy lifting and the hard work and
Speaker 1: the research for that. And this new book, the Wuhan
Speaker 1: cover up, which many of us who were awake to
Speaker 1: this quite a while ago, knew this came from a lab,
Speaker 1: knew that the NIH and Anthony Foucher were involved in
Speaker 1: the development of this virus in the first place, just
Speaker 1: so they could manufacture a vaccine.
Speaker 3: Tell me a little bit about the new book.
Speaker 6: You know, the new book really traces the history of
Speaker 6: bioweapons and the kind of bioweapons arms race where they
Speaker 6: are these you know, biolabs, bioweapons labs all around the country,
Speaker 6: and the Wuheim Lab was one of those labs. And
Speaker 6: it just seems really clear that this was a lab
Speaker 6: leak that you know, doctor Fauci knew about it, lots
Speaker 6: of other people knew about it. But they're in the
Speaker 6: business of lying to the American public. They've been doing
Speaker 6: it just time after time, and the American public knows
Speaker 6: it now and they have this deep hunger for an
Speaker 6: outsider like Bobby Kennedy to come in and start telling
Speaker 6: them the truth. And you know, you saw that today.
Speaker 6: Biden had said time after time, all of his people
Speaker 6: had said time after time, he's not going to pardon
Speaker 6: his son. And then of course he just comes out
Speaker 6: and he does it anyway. So these are people who
Speaker 6: are in the business of lying to the American public,
Speaker 6: poisoning the American public, taking all kinds of actions that
Speaker 6: hurt the American public. And it's time that we have
Speaker 6: civil servants who will fight to help the American public.
Speaker 1: I'd like to get to the bottom of how much
Speaker 1: Fauci gotten paid in royalties from Pfizer and the others
Speaker 1: in this vaccine. And I tell you what, I feel
Speaker 1: so much better with RFK Junior being the head of
Speaker 1: HHS and being a major advisor on American health issues
Speaker 1: over a man that I consider to be the modern
Speaker 1: day Joseph Mingla Anthony Fauci. I think there are great
Speaker 1: things ahead for Maha, for make America healthy again, and
Speaker 1: I think that he is definitely going to spearhead and
Speaker 1: lead this and lead this nation into at least a
Speaker 1: clear understanding of what the issues are and what the
Speaker 1: risks are. I don't know if you've ever noticed, but
Speaker 1: to this day, you watch an ozembic commercial, or you
Speaker 1: watch any of these products that are there to make
Speaker 1: our lives better thanks to big Pharma, and there's about
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds of the thirty second that lists all of
Speaker 1: the possible adverse side effects. To this day, there are
Speaker 1: still no listing of adverse side effects of the mRNA
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen vaccines, be they Johnson and Johnson.
Speaker 3: Moderna or Pfizer. Does that seem on to you?
Speaker 1: How there are no warnings about side effects on those
Speaker 1: particular vaccines and every other prescription drug that's out there.
Speaker 1: Half the commercial, half the damn commercial is warning you
Speaker 1: about what could happen if you take this?
Speaker 5: Isn't that on?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: It is very very odd. And if you look at
Speaker 6: what doctor Joe Latipo has done in Florida, where he
Speaker 6: did research on the MR and a vaccine and the
Speaker 6: impact on the likelihood of young, healthy people getting heart attacks.
Speaker 6: You know, it really is striking that these are terrible
Speaker 6: side effects. These are taking people who are at no
Speaker 6: risk from COVID and giving them something that's a lifelong
Speaker 6: problem that can give them a heart attack anytime in
Speaker 6: their life, even if they're really healthy. So, you know,
Speaker 6: there's a lot of really scary stuff going on and
Speaker 6: clearly a lot of fake science. And you know, like
Speaker 6: you said before, they're telling us to follow the science,
Speaker 6: but this is just corrupt, corporate science. This isn't real science.
Speaker 6: And these are people who keep telling us time after
Speaker 6: time that science is over, that this is the end
Speaker 6: of science, that things are settled, and any scientist knows
Speaker 6: that the science is never settled. That you know, the
Speaker 6: science is a process. Science is not. It's you know,
Speaker 6: there's never an end to the research you would do
Speaker 6: to try to get closer to the truth, and that
Speaker 6: there's always more to learn. And Bobby Kennedy wants to
Speaker 6: bring you know, gold standard science to the NIAHS, to
Speaker 6: the CDC, to the FDA, and everybody should want that.
Speaker 6: People on the right and the left. It's not about
Speaker 6: political party. It's about caring about people. It's about doing
Speaker 6: what's right. And I think that that's what you would
Speaker 6: get with Bobby Kennedy in this position of power, that
Speaker 6: he'd have eighty thousand people working for him and they
Speaker 6: start to deliver gold standard science.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Amen and amen.
Speaker 1: By the way, next time you talk to Bobby, would
Speaker 1: you let him know for me that he needs to
Speaker 1: consider that the science isn't settled on climate change too?
Speaker 3: Could you do that, Tony?
Speaker 6: Definitely? I don't think the science is settled on anything.
Speaker 6: I mean I never said that's the point. You know,
Speaker 6: people make errors all the time, and we try to
Speaker 6: do better. That's why we have scientists, That's why we
Speaker 6: What believing in science means is that you know, anytime
Speaker 6: you have something that you're sure of, you're still open
Speaker 6: to the possibility that you were wrong.
Speaker 3: Sure well, and.
Speaker 1: Knowing the playbook is half the battle in defeating the playbook,
Speaker 1: isn't it.
Speaker 6: Definitely? I mean the playbook is not to talk about
Speaker 6: the science, is not to have any dialogue or debate.
Speaker 6: It's just to take down the individual. And you know,
Speaker 6: so that's what they've done. They've worked day and night
Speaker 6: to just take him down, to shut him up. But
Speaker 6: Bobby Kennedy has this incredible personal power and his faith
Speaker 6: in God, and he's not going to back down. He's
Speaker 6: never going to quit. He's not doing it for money,
Speaker 6: he's not doing it for power, he's not doing it
Speaker 6: for more fame. You know, He's doing it because he
Speaker 6: believes that it's the right thing to do. And I
Speaker 6: think the American people overwhelmingly believe that it's his chance.
Speaker 6: That the big corporations, the corrupt government agencies, they've had
Speaker 6: their chance and they failed the American public.
Speaker 1: I agree the wu Han cover up and the terrifying
Speaker 1: bio are bioweapons arms race. The newest book by RFK
Speaker 1: Junior out in Skyhorse Publishing. Their president is Tony Lyons.
Speaker 1: He's been our guest, and thank you so much, Tony,
Speaker 1: good stuff, Thank you, you bet you.
Speaker 3: We close the Nightcap next. When I think about him,
Speaker 3: I think about Bill Cunningham. When I think about Bill Cunningham,
Speaker 3: I think about America. He's as red, white and blue
Speaker 3: as Uncle Sam. I told my wife, she looks like
Speaker 3: Uncle Sam. Then she smacked me in the head.
Speaker 1: America, my wife looks like Ben Franklin, but I'm not
Speaker 1: dumb enough to tell her that I.
Speaker 3: Bet Ben Franklin would listen to Bill Cunningham. They're both
Speaker 3: great Americans. Bill Cunningham tomorrow at twelve noon on seven
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Speaker 2: Hey, it's the snee and for the past six years, look,
Speaker 2: I've been either pregnant or in postpartum, but before that
Speaker 2: I was diagnosed with PCOS.
Speaker 3: And if you know W two three three BG, Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: A huge thank you to.
Speaker 1: All of our guests night wild Man Walker, Andy Furman,
Speaker 1: Don Brown, Lee wams Yans are in McIntyre, Tony Lyons.
Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure as always until the next time,
Speaker 1: looks like about two weeks away on a Monday night.
Speaker 1: We'll talk on Saturday mornings always. Of course, our national
Speaker 1: anthem to honor America, the Star Spangled Banner closes us
Speaker 1: out on seven hundred WLW